Re: [newbie-it] xp home VS xp pro - ex Alleggerire KDE
Alle 00:10, venerdì 18 luglio 2003, Alessandro Piaser ha scritto: - Original Message - From: Enrico Piccinini [...] Ache se è un po' OT qualcuno mi darebbe maggiori lumi sulle differenze tra le versioni home e professional di quella schifezza di SO. Qualcsa di tecnico, ma non troppo. Grazie Bye Alessandro Le grosse differenze sono due: 1) xp home non ti permette di creare reti con dominio, xp pro si. 2) xp home controlla tutto l'hardware (hdd, ram, processore, etc) e si crea un db coi numeri di serie. se cambi qualcosa, lui se ne accorge. ti permette solo 3/5 (non ricordo) cambiamenti, poi per lui tu sei un pirata che si è permesso di installare xp home su 2 comp. si incazza, non ti fa l'installazione, manda un msg a zio bill... è un controllo contro la pirateria casalinga, per le ditte ci pensa gia la finanza. I salami che mangiano sono marchiati M$ ;D Questo è interessante, ma vuoi dirmi che la versione professional non lo fa tutto 'sto ciocco?? Per 50 euro in più non ti marchiano a fuoco le periferiche? In pratica la home è legata vita natural durante a uno specifico computer? Ho letto da qualche parte che i notebook vengono forniti con versioni per le quali non è possibile cambiare il pc e che appunto il cambio o aggiornamento di qualche periferica (mettiamo la ram, ma chi ogni tanto non mette un po' di ram in più) fa decadere la licenza. Domandone da 1 milione di sterline: si può rifiutare una versione home e richiederne una professional o rifiutare la home e mettere linux sui notebook che spesso vengono venduti col sistema operativo? in quest'ultimo caso rimborsano il costo del sistema operativo? Dato che la licenza comporta l'uso del programma, in modo lecito si intende non l'installazione su 2 pc ma la rimozione da 1 e l'installazione sull'altro ad esempio, in pratica in base a tutto quello che hai detto sopra (i 3/5 cambiamenti) comportano un limitazione dell'uso della licenza medesima a mio modo di vedere. Bisogna pagare a bill.. col softometro??? User: mmiii ho usato windows 2 ore MS: fa 3 euro User: ma non costa 1 euro l'ora? MS: si ma a sforato per 1 millesimo di secondo quindi 3 euro! poi c'è il supplemento per il service pack, l'extra per la security patch e l'obolo per la cassa miliardari in pensione. Totale ... User semisvenuto: posso rateizzare in 9 o dieci vite? Ma premesso sempre che è un groviera come sistema operativo e non è nemmeno svizzero, la versione professional ha qualche (scusate ma non riesco a trattenere le risate) bug in meno della home? Scusate ancora l'OT ma dato che per utilizzare un programma speficico per il quale la versione linux forse vedrà la luce tra tre o più anni, forse sarò costretto... ma non fatemici pensare, allibisco all'idea. Grazie iKKi e un grazie anche a miKe e Enrico Piccinini Bye Alessandro
Re: [newbie-it]mutt a colori [era: sendmail envelope_from]
Arwan - ha scritto: A proposito tu li vedi a colori gli smileys ? Mmmm... mi pare di no... pero' non dovrebbe essere difficile da fare, se ho capito come funzia muttrc... dimmi, dimmi! Se nel frattempo non l'hai già fatto questa è la riga da inserire: color body brightyellow black [;:8]-?[)/(|PpDO] come vedi è semplice il sistema. sai come fare le ricerche? n cerca una parola all'interno di una mail, ma se dovessi cercare la stessa parola tra piu' mail, o addirittura tra piu' dir? Premetto che con i comandi che troverai di seguito potrai effettuare la ricerca di una stessa parola tra mail di una stessa dir, se vuoi ricercare su altre dir devi cambiare prima la dir :) . Certo sarrebbe comodo che la ricerca possa comprendere anche tutte le altre dir di posta configurate. Cercherò di documentarmi in tal senso. Io utilizzo esc+b per effettuare la ricerca solo nel corpo dei messaggi, trovata questa parola per continuare a ricercare in avanti ripeto lo stesso comando in modo sequenziale ed uso i tasti up e down, dopo il primo esito di ricerca, per richiamare la parola da ricercare che avevo impostato senza doverla riscrivere e ricontinuo la ricerca partendo dal punto di arrivo precedente. Il comando accettato da mutt associato ai tasti esc+b è questo: /~b Poi ci sono altri comandi che già sono configurati di default come 'search' con funzione di ricerca generica, 'search-reverse' che cerca all'indietro o 'search-next' che cerca in avanti. I tasti associati sono questi: / per search esc+/ per search-reverse n per search-next. Controlla l'help sotto mutt e verifica se non ce l'hai già configurati di default altrimenti li inserisci con macro o bind in .muttrc. Nota che il segno + nei tasti associati non è inteso come carattere ma che il carattere prima e dopo non debbono essere premuti in sequenza sulla tastiera ma contemporaneamente. Per quanto riguarda evidenziare a colori la lista dei messaggi inviati solo a me ho fatto delle prove qui in locale modificando l'header Message-ID in qualche vecchio messaggio dopo aver settato l'hostname in .muttrc (in precedenza configurato come inwind.it) ma non funziona in questo modo o al massimo funziona in modo scorretto. Ho subito pensato allora che semmai funzionasse comunque tutti i vecchi messaggi a me inviati non potranno per il momento beneficiare di questa nuova funzionalità dato che riportano nella identificazione un hostname differente, tuttavia la tua risposta sarà per me il test di questo comando che ho appena inserito in quanto non ho ancora un verifica sul campo, ti pregherei pertanto di inviarmi due risposte una normalmente tramite newbie e l'altra diretta. Nel frattempo voglio fare delle prove in locale per capire se devo intervenire su qualche altro header. Ho però visto che tu hai cambiato diverse volte il tuo hostname prima di arrivare a quello attuale di VecchioStregone, e conoscendo la tua proverbiale pignoleria sicuramente avrai risolto questo problema. Un'ultima cosa, quando tu rispondi a un messaggio e ti si apre vim, hai problemi di posizionamento del cursore se il numero delle righe occupate dagli headers sono maggiori di quelle previste nel settaggio dell'editor ? Siccome uso degli hook che per particolari indirizzi aggiungono o tolgono degli headers ho notato questa limitazione. Ho risolto il problema studiandomi diversi file di configurazione di muttrc, ora il cursore è più intelligente, si posiziona sempre alla prima riga del corpo del messaggio indipendentemente dal numero delle righe di headers utilizzati tramite gli hook. In sostanza ora ho un cursore dinamico non più obbligato dalla specifica della posizione in set editor nel file .muttrc. Ciao, Giuseppe. -- GNU/Linux Powered Red Hat 9.A (Shrike) Kernel 2.4.20
Re: [newbie-it] Fwd: WARNING: current kernels not safe
il Thursday 24 July 2003 23:57, si è scritto riguardo a [newbie-it] Fwd: WARNING: current kernels not safe Ciao a tutti, ho ricevuto questa email da MandrakeSoft. La giro in lista nel caso in cui qualcuno di voi non ne fosse al corrente... Daniele -- Messaggio inoltrato -- Subject: WARNING: current kernels not safe Date: 02:09, giovedì 24 luglio 2003 From: Vincent Danen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is an urgent message for all 9.1 users. Please back out of the 24mdk kernel update and downgrade to 18mdk or 13mdk as soon as you are able. A problem exists in all kernels (except kernel-secure) where newly created files are created mode 0666 (world writeable) on any filesystem other than XFS, including remote NFS mounts. We are working hard to attempt to get this problem corrected with new kernels available in the next 24-48hrs. Thank you. -- MandrakeSoft Security; http://www.mandrakesecure.net/ Online Security Resource Book; http://linsec.ca/ lynx -source http://linsec.ca/vdanen.asc | gpg --import {FE6F2AFD : 88D8 0D23 8D4B 3407 5BD7 66F9 2043 D0E5 FE6F 2AFD} --- Ricevuta, ma non capisco come mai una cosa così importante sia firmata da Vincent Danen (al quale ho avuto il piacere di segnalare un bug da lui negato e poi confermato 1 mese dopo dal mandrake team) e non dal Mandrake Team di cui si può, peraltro, verificare la firma Germano P.S: Sul sito non risulta niente di tutto ciò
Re: [newbie-it]mutt a colori [era: sendmail envelope_from]
* Giuseppe Ferruzzi ha scritto: ... ho fatto delle prove qui in locale modificando l'header Message-ID ... Allora Arwan, dopo qualche prova in locale ho visto che mettendo il mio nuovo hostname negli headers In-Reply-To e References il sistema a colori funziona, quindi ora posso cambiarli in tutti i messaggi in archivio indirizzati a me, dato che non ne ho molti. Ciao, Giuseppe. -- GNU/Linux Powered Red Hat 9.A (Shrike) Kernel 2.4.20
[newbie-it] Problemi con ftp
Salve ragazzi c'è qualche buonanima che mi dice xche se creo un utente in Linux Mandrake 9.1 e mi collego con windowz prg ws-ftp95 entro dentro la dir /pub però se clicco per cambiare la directori risco ad arrivare in root? Mentre se creo un utente con login e passw = Anonymous entro in /Pub e non mi fà cambiare la directori. Cazzarola se io voglio che il tizio login=rossi passw=mario deve accedere alla directori /Pub e non deve andare in giro vedendo tutta il mio HD magari il tizio ha anche una sua directori personale che può accedere solamente lui. Tanks Luckylu
Re: [newbie-it] Fwd: WARNING: current kernels not safe
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alle 15:43, venerdì 25 luglio 2003, in merito a Re: [newbie-it] Fwd: WARNING: current kernels not safe, Germano ha scritto: Ricevuta, ma non capisco come mai una cosa così importante sia firmata da Vincent Danen (al quale ho avuto il piacere di segnalare un bug da lui negato e poi confermato 1 mese dopo dal mandrake team) e non dal Mandrake Team di cui si può, peraltro, verificare la firma in effetti, queto è l'ultimo avviso di vulnerabilità apparso su bugtraq, e non accenna a quel problema: Messaggio firmato da Mandrake Linux Security Team (identificativo chiave: 0x22458A98). Mandrake Linux Security Update Advisory Package name: kernel Advisory ID:MDKSA-2003:074 Date: July 15th, 2003 Affected versions: 8.2, 9.0, Corporate Server 2.1, Multi Network Firewall 8.2 Problem Description: Multiple vulnerabilities were discovered and fixed in the Linux kernel. * CAN-2003-0001: Multiple ethernet network card drivers do not pad frames with null bytes which allows remote attackers to obtain information from previous packets or kernel memory by using special malformed packets. * CAN-2003-0244: The route cache implementation in the 2.4 kernel and the Netfilter IP conntrack module allows remote attackers to cause a Denial of Service (DoS) via CPU consumption due to packets with forged source addresses that cause a large number of hash table collisions related to the PREROUTING chain. * CAN-2003-0246: The ioperm implementation in 2.4.20 and earlier kernels does not properly restrict privileges, which allows local users to gain read or write access to certain I/O ports. * CAN-2003-0247: A vulnerability in the TTY layer of the 2.4 kernel allows attackers to cause a kernel oops resulting in a DoS. * CAN-2003-0248: The mxcsr code in the 2.4 kernel allows attackers to modify CPU state registers via a malformed address. * CAN-2003-0462: A file read race existed in the execve() system call. Kernels for 9.1/x86 are also available (see MDKSA-2003:066). MandrakeSoft encourages all users to upgrade to these new kernels. For full instructions on how to properly upgrade your kernel, please review http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/docs/magic.php. References: http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CAN-2003-0001 http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CAN-2003-0244 http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CAN-2003-0246 http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CAN-2003-0247 http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CAN-2003-0248 http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CAN-2003-0462 http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=bugtraqm=105664924024009w=2 Updated Packages: Corporate Server 2.1: 7d1353ce3e9fb208432efbdd2b88ce1d corporate/2.1/RPMS/kernel-2.4.19.35mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm 0326b72151288d0019f8931c00ee0e09 corporate/2.1/RPMS/kernel-BOOT-2.4.19.35mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm 32b1a09f83f47f5ff1a5d57a80ccb20a corporate/2.1/RPMS/kernel-enterprise-2.4.19.35mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm 980ba2d5c0a1d8a9912c2a69acbbfe78 corporate/2.1/RPMS/kernel-secure-2.4.19.35mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm 958b18995fe86327c810f61f4f0dde19 corporate/2.1/RPMS/kernel-smp-2.4.19.35mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm 8820530236f374ef7785894da1d9d335 corporate/2.1/RPMS/kernel-source-2.4.19-35mdk.i586.rpm 32603ada685f5e679c4be90942bb3a82 corporate/2.1/SRPMS/kernel-2.4.19.35mdk-1-1mdk.src.rpm Mandrake Linux 8.2: 2619584b889187747e02fea73a4f1a8e 8.2/RPMS/kernel-2.4.19.35mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm 3eaea1e08d39961b53d5738b29aea33e 8.2/RPMS/kernel-BOOT-2.4.19.35mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm b4692c3e92c7e6a43f96bd1f6d7f9358 8.2/RPMS/kernel-doc-2.4.19-35mdk.i586.rpm e84542a0bdb5b41cec474bf4e4e3c604 8.2/RPMS/kernel-enterprise-2.4.19.35mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm 491ae5f0690d23df6219cca1ed1eba18 8.2/RPMS/kernel-secure-2.4.19.35mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm c776ded96b8a2c348243f2597dd86502 8.2/RPMS/kernel-smp-2.4.19.35mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm cef13c1241944b7bd2d7504cb7352305 8.2/RPMS/kernel-source-2.4.19-35mdk.i586.rpm 32603ada685f5e679c4be90942bb3a82 8.2/SRPMS/kernel-2.4.19.35mdk-1-1mdk.src.rpm Mandrake Linux 8.2/PPC: be46c251cf9c926a343d4669a841ea2c ppc/8.2/RPMS/kernel-2.4.19.35mdk-1-1mdk.ppc.rpm b89668f6f92f1066f5cbdd04780fa7b5 ppc/8.2/RPMS/kernel-doc-2.4.19-35mdk.ppc.rpm da58d7320c3a22304e00a1a2498d9062 ppc/8.2/RPMS/kernel-enterprise-2.4.19.35mdk-1-1mdk.ppc.rpm 128aff5750789a51db0985ee17ad466b ppc/8.2/RPMS/kernel-smp-2.4.19.35mdk-1-1mdk.ppc.rpm 82eab7a11ded653b85f741f1d5892338
Re: [newbie-it] Google help!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alle 22:22, mercoledì 23 luglio 2003, in merito a Re: [newbie-it] Google help!, stormy ha scritto: less /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn che ti dice?? Penso sia un file vuoto Mi dice: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn lines 1-1/1 (END) Se il tuo kernel è compilato con la voce IP: TCP Explicit Congestion Notification support potresti venire droppato da firewall mal configurati che versione di kernel usi (uname -a) ? gli altri con lo stesso kernel, come la vedono settata / come hanno configurato il kernel? Ciao - -- bye miKe Slackware 8.1 GNU/Linux 2.4.21 @ hp Xe3 R.U.#219755 -- S.R.U.#705 -- R.M.#110932 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/IVCRF/9fksDJ4y0RAgE7AJ9UGm3scFN620luxFO/n1r1JMZzrACfSFes TzD2/o7OJA9/UkMnjHcNNmg= =3bAB -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [newbie-it] Fwd: WARNING: current kernels not safe
il Friday 25 July 2003 17:34, si è scritto riguardo a Re: [newbie-it] Fwd: WARNING: current kernels not safe Alle 15:43, venerdì 25 luglio 2003, in merito a Re: [newbie-it] Fwd: WARNING: current kernels not safe, Germano ha scritto: Ricevuta, ma non capisco come mai una cosa così importante sia firmata da Vincent Danen (al quale ho avuto il piacere di segnalare un bug da lui negato e poi confermato 1 mese dopo dal mandrake team) e non dal Mandrake Team di cui si può, peraltro, verificare la firma in effetti, queto è l'ultimo avviso di vulnerabilità apparso su bugtraq, e non accenna a quel problema: Quello che tu hai citato non è l'ultimo perchè quello riguardante la 9.1 è del 21 Luglio ed è quello al quale si riferisce l' email citata da Daniele. Permane il mistero sul perchè un solo tizio si faccia promotore di un problema di sicurezza. Ciao
Re: [newbie-it] Fwd: WARNING: current kernels not safe
La mia curiosità e diffidenza hanno appena ricevuto risposta. ---- Subject: MDKSA-2003:066-2 - Updated kernel packages fix multiple vulnerabilities Date: Friday 25 July 2003 18:57 From: Mandrake Linux Security Team [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mandrake Linux Security Update Advisory Package name: kernel Advisory ID:MDKSA-2003:066-2 Date: July 25th, 2003 Original Advisory Date: June 11th, 2003 Affected versions: 9.1 Problem Description: Multiple vulnerabilities were discovered and fixed in the Linux kernel. * CAN-2003-0001: Multiple ethernet network card drivers do not pad frames with null bytes which allows remote attackers to obtain information from previous packets or kernel memory by using special malformed packets. * CAN-2003-0244: The route cache implementation in the 2.4 kernel and the Netfilter IP conntrack module allows remote attackers to cause a Denial of Service (DoS) via CPU consumption due to packets with forged source addresses that cause a large number of hash table collisions related to the PREROUTING chain. * CAN-2003-0246: The ioperm implementation in 2.4.20 and earlier kernels does not properly restrict privileges, which allows local users to gain read or write access to certain I/O ports. * CAN-2003-0247: A vulnerability in the TTY layer of the 2.4 kernel allows attackers to cause a kernel oops resulting in a DoS. * CAN-2003-0248: The mxcsr code in the 2.4 kernel allows attackers to modify CPU state registers via a malformed address. * CAN-2003-0462: A file read race existed in the execve() system call. As well, a number of bug fixes were made in the 9.1 kernel including: * Support for more machines that did not work with APIC * Audigy2 support * New/updated modules: prims25, adiusbadsl, thinkpad, ieee1394, orinoco, via-rhine, * Fixed SiS IOAPIC * IRQ balancing has been fixed for SMP * Updates to ext3 * The previous ptrace fix has been redone to work better * Bugs with compiling kernels using xconfig have been fixed * Problems with ipsec have been corrected * XFS ACLs are now present * gdb not working on XFS root filesystems has been fixed MandrakeSoft encourages all users to upgrade to these new kernels. Updated kernels will be available shortly for other supported platforms and architectures. For full instructions on how to properly upgrade your kernel, please review http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/docs/magic.php. Update: The kernels provided in MDKSA-2003:066-1 (2.4.21-0.24mdk) had a problem where all files created on any filesystem other than XFS, and using any kernel other than kernel-secure, would be created with mode 0666, or world writeable. The 0.24mdk kernels have been removed from the mirrors and users are encouraged to upgrade and remove those kernels from their systems to prevent accidentally booting into them. That issue has been addressed and fixed with these new kernels. References: http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CAN-2003-0001 http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CAN-2003-0244 http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CAN-2003-0246 http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CAN-2003-0247 http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CAN-2003-0248 http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CAN-2003-0462 http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=bugtraqm=105664924024009w=2 Updated Packages: Mandrake Linux 9.1: 419058c00d6cbc637c3a8fc8856438ef 9.1/RPMS/kernel-2.4.21.0.25mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm 9a4382eef9022e9d650171e9b99e40e8 9.1/RPMS/kernel-BOOT-2.4.21.0.25mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm 8fb033ae79f8d62ef7db8116dbd8a258 9.1/RPMS/kernel-doc-2.4.21-0.25mdk.i586.rpm 7c4446a519dc48c70a13e8765c19c35f 9.1/RPMS/kernel-enterprise-2.4.21.0.25mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm 7b1824f5cc6e22f7a2ff8d21be497e57 9.1/RPMS/kernel-secure-2.4.21.0.25mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm 1a1b38775940278848e30ad740552748 9.1/RPMS/kernel-smp-2.4.21.0.25mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm 680b79e2591161ba6829fd3656f16abb 9.1/RPMS/kernel-source-2.4.21-0.25mdk.i586.rpm ecb903bcd0dd169eeb53f534638b7cd7 9.1/SRPMS/kernel-2.4.21.0.25mdk-1-1mdk.src.rpm Mandrake Linux 9.1/PPC: 558d5d6784f15775a5c9b8da0855fdeb ppc/9.1/RPMS/kernel-2.4.21.0.25mdk-1-1mdk.ppc.rpm b402ff80467c57470eff93b59e929045 ppc/9.1/RPMS/kernel-doc-2.4.21-0.25mdk.ppc.rpm bbf10a690a4ad709b20aed72efd59319 ppc/9.1/RPMS/kernel-enterprise-2.4.21.0.25mdk-1-1mdk.ppc.rpm 8f55bcf38b775c0ddfb3d6c2e9f8bcae
Re: [newbie-it] Fwd: WARNING: current kernels not safe
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alle 18:50, venerdì 25 luglio 2003, in merito a Re: [newbie-it] Fwd: WARNING: current kernels not safe, Germano ha scritto: in effetti, queto è l'ultimo avviso di vulnerabilità apparso su bugtraq, e non accenna a quel problema: Quello che tu hai citato non è l'ultimo perchè quello riguardante la 9.1 è del 21 Luglio ed è quello al quale si riferisce l' email citata da Daniele. è l'ultimo ufficiale, a firmaMDKSA passato su bugtraq, non ho nessun accenno nemmeno sulla SecurityFocus Linux Newsletter #141 (l'ultima, proprio del 21) trovo qualcosa su bugzilla, ma relativo a RH, e che non è *proprio* quello che scriveva Vincent Danen ( newly created files are created mode 0666 (world writeable) on any filesystem other than XFS, including remote NFS mounts. ), seppure possa portare a effetti simili Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Red Hat Security Advisory Synopsis: Updated 2.4 kernel fixes vulnerabilities Advisory ID: RHSA-2003:238-01 Issue date:2003-07-21 CAN-2003-0464: A recent change in the RPC code set the reuse flag on newly-created sockets. Olaf Kirch noticed that his could allow normal users to bind to UDP ports used for services such as nfsd. CAN-2003-0476: The execve system call in Linux 2.4.x records the file descriptor of the executable process in the file table of the calling process, allowing local users to gain read access to restricted file descriptors. Ciao - -- bye miKe Slackware 8.1 GNU/Linux 2.4.21 @ hp Xe3 R.U.#219755 -- S.R.U.#705 -- R.M.#110932 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/IXd+F/9fksDJ4y0RAlAaAJwJB8vRBgg8+cmpFQgLN85iS2nGbQCguZiW jbcm4gNIgnIU44gCIkgcNfc= =chMV -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [newbie-it] Fwd: WARNING: current kernels not safe
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alle 20:37, venerdì 25 luglio 2003, in merito a Re: [newbie-it] Fwd: WARNING: current kernels not safe, Germano ha scritto: La mia curiosità e diffidenza hanno appena ricevuto risposta. stavo per scrivere lo stesso... Subject: MDKSA-2003:066-2 - Updated kernel packages fix multiple vulnerabilities Date: Friday 25 July 2003 18:57 - -- bye miKe Slackware 8.1 GNU/Linux 2.4.21 @ hp Xe3 R.U.#219755 -- S.R.U.#705 -- R.M.#110932 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/IXzEF/9fksDJ4y0RAp2oAJ48B+JuyUt3DIO+UneY76DVoNvIZACgrBqG 4HDpOcEExFXRsWNJRjiVSUo= =87RD -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [newbie-it]mutt a colori [era: sendmail envelope_from]
Deve aver avuto molto sonno, perche' il venerdì 25 luglio 2003, alle 13:56, Giuseppe Ferruzzi ha scritto: Ho subito pensato allora che semmai funzionasse comunque tutti i vecchi messaggi a me inviati non potranno per il momento beneficiare di questa nuova funzionalità dato che riportano nella identificazione un hostname differente, Infatti, e' cosi'. tuttavia la tua risposta sarà per me il test OK, allora ti rispondo ;-) di questo comando che ho appena inserito in quanto non ho ancora un verifica sul campo, ti pregherei pertanto di inviarmi due risposte una normalmente tramite newbie e l'altra diretta. La mail deve venire colorata sia se si tratta di una risposta a una tua mail in privato, sia se la risposta viene mandata in una ML. Nel frattempo voglio fare delle prove in locale per capire se devo intervenire su qualche altro header. Ho però visto che tu hai cambiato diverse volte il tuo hostname prima di arrivare a quello attuale di VecchioStregone, Davvero? Da quando ho mutt ho cambiato solo da quello di default a questo; prima non ne ho idea: volevo cambiare l'hostname generale di tutto il pc e ho fatto varie prove, ma c'era sembra qualcosa che sballava i miei piani. e conoscendo la tua proverbiale pignoleria sicuramente avrai risolto questo problema. No, l'ho rimandato per il principio die piccoli passi. Se ti riverivi all'hostname. Per quello della colorazione delle mail in risposta, invece, ho applicato la stringa di syd ed e' andato tutto a puntino. Un'ultima cosa, quando tu rispondi a un messaggio e ti si apre vim, hai problemi di posizionamento del cursore se il numero delle righe occupate dagli headers sono maggiori di quelle previste nel settaggio dell'editor ? Yes, ma al massimo sballo di una riga. Piu' che questo, mi da' fastidio l'uso dei colori: c'e' un celestino che non riesco a vedere, e se cambio il colore dello sfondo poi non vedo piu' il blu. Ma ho rimandato tutto a dopo le ferie, cioe' fra un mese. ;-) Da domani le mail arriveranno alla mia casella, ma non le leggero' fino a fine agosto (salvo capatine a cosultare pc pubblici). Siccome uso degli hook che per particolari indirizzi aggiungono o tolgono degli headers ho notato questa limitazione. Ho risolto il problema studiandomi diversi file di configurazione di muttrc, ora il cursore è più intelligente, si posiziona sempre alla prima riga del corpo del messaggio indipendentemente dal numero delle righe di headers utilizzati tramite gli hook. In sostanza ora ho un cursore dinamico non più obbligato dalla specifica della posizione in set editor nel file .muttrc. Bella cosa, mi spiegherai ;-) Arwan -- There's so many different worlds So many different suns And we have just one world But we live in different ones.
Re: [newbie-it]mutt a colori [era: sendmail envelope_from]
* Arwan - ha scritto: La mail deve venire colorata sia se si tratta di una risposta a una tua mail in privato, sia se la risposta viene mandata in una ML. Si ma come avrai già letto nella mia risposta diretta purtroppo funziona una volta sola, aperto il messaggio ritorna poi con lo stesso colore degli altri messaggi non a me indirizzati, come se il colore impostato in .muttrc venisse ignorato. Ho però visto che tu hai cambiato diverse volte il tuo hostname prima di arrivare a quello attuale di VecchioStregone, Davvero? Prima avevi inwind.it, poi inventato.it e ora VecchioStregone.it sarà l'ultimo ? Non penso. ... ho rimandato tutto a dopo le ferie, cioe' fra un mese. ;-) Da domani le mail arriveranno alla mia casella, ma non le leggero' fino a fine agosto (salvo capatine a cosultare pc pubblici). Chi può ... numero delle righe di headers utilizzati tramite gli hook. In sostanza ora ho un cursore dinamico non più obbligato dalla specifica della posizione in set editor nel file .muttrc. Bella cosa, mi spiegherai ;-) Quando vuoi. Ciao, Giuseppe. -- GNU/Linux Powered Red Hat 9.A (Shrike) Kernel 2.4.20
[newbie-it] mutt e righe
Sebbene io oggi sparisca dalla circlazione, lancio la domanda cosi' al mio ritorno avro' da fare ;-) Sapete come si dice a mutt di saltare una riga? Per esempio, prima della firma (ho nel signature solo quello che c'e' dopo i -- ); oppure dopo la riga introduttiva del reply xx on ... wrote... Arwan -- There's so many different worlds So many different suns And we have just one world But we live in different ones.
[newbie-it] OT mutt e ferie
Mutt, mi mancherai ;-) Arwan -- There's so many different worlds So many different suns And we have just one world But we live in different ones.
[newbie-it] ari-mutt
Non so come, ma smanettando con i colori di mutt sono riuscita ad avere una riga lampeggiante... qualcuno ne sa di piu'? Arwan -- There's so many different worlds So many different suns And we have just one world But we live in different ones.
Re: [newbie-it]mutt a colori [era: sendmail envelope_from]
Deve aver avuto molto sonno, perche' il venerdì 25 luglio 2003, alle 23:53, Giuseppe Ferruzzi ha scritto: * Arwan - ha scritto: La mail deve venire colorata sia se si tratta di una risposta a una tua mail in privato, sia se la risposta viene mandata in una ML. Si ma come avrai già letto nella mia risposta diretta purtroppo funziona una volta sola, aperto il messaggio ritorna poi con lo stesso colore degli altri messaggi non a me indirizzati, come se il colore impostato in .muttrc venisse ignorato. No, no... a me restano colorate sempre (ma hai mai provato a evidenziare le tue mail giocando con i punteggi? C'e' anceh quel modo li'...). Tornando a noi: ripeto le righe che ho modificato in .muttrc, perche' le ho ritoccate rispetto a quelle che mi passo' syd. color index redblack ~N ~x\VecchioStregone\.it # questo mette in rosso tutti i messaggi nuovi in risposta ai miei color index yellow black ~O ~x\VecchioStregone\.it # questo mette in giallo tutti i messaggi vecchi in risposta ai miei color index brightred black ~x\VecchioStregone\.it # questo mette praticamente in rosso tutti i messaggi in risposta ai # miei che non hanno flag Ho però visto che tu hai cambiato diverse volte il tuo hostname prima di arrivare a quello attuale di VecchioStregone, Davvero? Prima avevi inwind.it, poi inventato.it e ora VecchioStregone.it sarà l'ultimo ? Non penso. Inwind e' quello che usavo con kmail, inventato quello di mutt... quando ancora non sapevo che l'hostname apparisse in posta ;-) (Volevo dire quando ancora non sapevo cosa fosse l'hostname, ma non sono sicura di saperlo nemmeno ora) ... ho rimandato tutto a dopo le ferie, cioe' fra un mese. ;-) Da domani le mail arriveranno alla mia casella, ma non le leggero' fino a fine agosto (salvo capatine a cosultare pc pubblici). Chi può ... ;-))) numero delle righe di headers utilizzati tramite gli hook. In sostanza ora ho un cursore dinamico non più obbligato dalla specifica della posizione in set editor nel file .muttrc. Bella cosa, mi spiegherai ;-) Quando vuoi. Al mio ritorno, dopo l'inevitabile lista di cose urgenti Arwan -- There's so many different worlds So many different suns And we have just one world But we live in different ones.
[newbie] RAM question
ok, i was tooling around and decided to see how much ram i was currently using. i have 768mb installed and linux knows it (running a 950 processor, decent speed combo). so i look at i'm fluctuating between 5 and 20mb of free ram left. so i think this just can't be right, i mean, to use up ALL that ram when i all i hvae running is a media player, gaim, mozilla, and kmail. so i do a search and i read that it's normal for linux to do this because it's not actually using the ramm it's just keeping things stored there kinda like a hard disc for when it has to use itor something like that. is that really what it's doing? the system hasn't been running excessively long, only about a day and a half. anyway, this just boggled me and was wondering if anyone could inform me if this is really true or if something is wrong here. thanks! Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SBr Temp
On Friday 25 Jul 2003 4:37 am, Todd Slater wrote: On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 21:51:51 -0500 Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I asked Dennis what this was off-list and hes not sure, so I'll throw this out to the rest. Below is my sensors output, what is SBr temp? Southbridge? http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=enlr=ie=UTF-8selm=Pine.HPX.4.43.02040 40043300.25096-10%40wave Todd Todd is correct. It's for the South Bridge chip. http://www.linux.cz/stats/mrtg-rrd/temp.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RAM question
i just fired up ksim and it says i've got 588M physical ram free. but why is there a discrepancy between what it says when i check memory and in ksim? any ideas? On Friday 25 July 2003 02:05 am, crak600 wrote: ok, i was tooling around and decided to see how much ram i was currently using. i have 768mb installed and linux knows it (running a 950 processor, decent speed combo). so i look at i'm fluctuating between 5 and 20mb of free ram left. so i think this just can't be right, i mean, to use up ALL that ram when i all i hvae running is a media player, gaim, mozilla, and kmail. so i do a search and i read that it's normal for linux to do this because it's not actually using the ramm it's just keeping things stored there kinda like a hard disc for when it has to use itor something like that. is that really what it's doing? the system hasn't been running excessively long, only about a day and a half. anyway, this just boggled me and was wondering if anyone could inform me if this is really true or if something is wrong here. thanks! Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures
On Fri, 2003-07-25 at 10:01, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Friday 25 July 2003 01:31, Aron Smith wrote: Incredible for someone who has dial-up.keep on trucking:o) More than that he has replied backchannel to a lot of us..I second the motion ; Before he gets too big for his boots: Kuhn, Kuhn?...uhh wasn't that the guy who thought he was on a RedHat list here before they came out with 8.0? Jus pulling yer leg mate;o) Heheheheh...ya know, I used to loosen my mates' anchor chains before they went out for a sail...(at least the smart-arsed ones)...(g) -- Fri Jul 25 17:40:00 EST 2003 17:40:00 up 11 days, 9:43, 3 users, load average: 0.68, 0.53, 0.48 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * By perseverance the snail reached the Ark. -- Charles Spurgeon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures
On Fri, 2003-07-25 at 10:19, Chris wrote: On Thursday 24 July 2003 06:18 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: Hmmm, I missed something here. But then the email is a bit flakey for me lately. Some threads are not threading. For one upsmanship Stephen, I am having a mid-year crises as well as a thermal breakdown. : p Geeez, I'm getting replies before original questions and replies to replies and not the original replies, what a mess. The answer is simply: yes. -- Fri Jul 25 17:40:00 EST 2003 17:40:00 up 11 days, 9:43, 3 users, load average: 0.68, 0.53, 0.48 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * By perseverance the snail reached the Ark. -- Charles Spurgeon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [hylafax-users] FW: [newbie] Remotely answer incoming fax?
Thanks Lee I will pass this on. -Original Message- From: Lee Howard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 5:28 PM To: Tony S. Sykes Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hylafax-users] FW: [newbie] Remotely answer incoming fax? What it sounds like is either 1) the fax machine listens to DTMF and is programmed to wait for *51 before answering, OR 2) the telco listens for *51 and keeps ringing the line even after the receiver hangs up. The poster seems to be indicating #1. If it is the case, then the answer is no. BUT, if you wanted to program faxgetty to sit in voice mode, listening for *51, and then to switch into fax mode and answer the call, it could be done. Frankly, distinctive ring would be a much better solution for this kind of single-line fax and voice usage. Lee. On 2003.07.24 09:15 Tony S. Sykes wrote: Can we do this? From Mandrake newbie's list. -Original Message- From: Warren Post [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 12:11 AM To: Newbie list Subject: [newbie] Remotely answer incoming fax? I am looking for fax software that will let me remotely receive an incoming fax. By which I mean: In my restaurant I have one phone line, which is used for both voice and fax. The phone is answered in the kitchen, and the fax machine was in the office. When an incoming fax came in, the person answering the phone only had to enter a remote answer code (*51) on the phone's keypad to signal the fax machine to receive the incoming fax. Now my fax machine has died and I'd like to do the same thing with my computer's fax modem. So far I can't find any reference to any such feature in Efax or HylaFAX (I'm assuming such a feature would have to be implemented on the backend). Any leads, anyone? -- Warren Post Santa Rosa de Copán, Honduras http://srcopan.vze.com/ -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com http://www.bcpsoftware.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com http://www.bcpsoftware.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MS is at it again... Now Really OT!!!
On Thursday 24 Jul 2003 11:53 pm, Robin Turner wrote: Todd Slater wrote: Why is it that the only time anybody gets their panties in a bunch is when the talk turns political and controversial? The reason I jumped in to this particular thread was because I was not prepared to let Anne be abused without saying something. There is nothing as impotent as a list at such times, nevertheless to sit by and say nothing would have been both unacceptable and shaming. As for the original flames I wrote twice, off-list, to the poster being abusive but, when the flames were directed publicly at a member of the list who is unfailingly courteous and attempts to help anyone with a problem... As I say it's an impotent action really, nevertheless the opinion MUST be posted. Arguments that the flames should be allowed to die only allow the flamer to assume that his, or her behaviour, is acceptable in public company. regards Daryl -- The Arkansas legislature passed a law that states that the Arkansas River can rise no higher than to the Main Street bridge in Little Rock. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures
On Friday 25 July 2003 09:43, Stephen Kuhn wrote: Jus pulling yer leg mate;o) Heheheheh...ya know, I used to loosen my mates' anchor chains before they went out for a sail...(at least the smart-arsed ones)...(g) We challenged 'em to a race after we'd tied all sorts of bags, buckets and other junk to their hull the night before. We'd make sure they were slobbering drunk too on those nights;o) -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SBr Temp
On Fri, 2003-07-25 at 12:51, Chris wrote: I asked Dennis what this was off-list and hes not sure, so I'll throw this out to the rest. Below is my sensors output, what is SBr temp? Spectral Band Replication Scientifically Based Research Short Barrel Rifle Space Based Radar Styrene Butadiene Rubber Sequencing Batch Reactor System Board Resistor/Resistance Seat Belt Reminder Similarity Based Regression Sudden Bradycardia Response -- Fri Jul 25 17:45:01 EST 2003 17:45:01 up 11 days, 9:48, 3 users, load average: 0.21, 0.42, 0.44 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Enough research will tend to support your conclusions -- Murphy's In Laws n13 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures
On Fri, 2003-07-25 at 13:18, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Thursday 24 July 2003 07:07 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: Tanx mate. Living on karma. Can I buy that in a six pack? grin Someone in the next holler might be brewin' it mate. -- Fri Jul 25 18:15:00 EST 2003 18:15:00 up 11 days, 10:18, 3 users, load average: 0.15, 0.21, 0.24 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * A farmer is a man outstanding in his field. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] urpmi as a user and not root
DOH! Looking through the man pages again. I have found you can set a user and password for the proxy to authenticate against. SORRY for wasting your time but hopefully it will help somebody else. i.e. read the man pages more carefully. Thanks, Tony. -Original Message- From: ed tharp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 7:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] urpmi as a user and not root On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 11:05, Tony S. Sykes wrote: Dan, It is my works network which has the server. They don't want to create a root account as this is a possible security risk due to it being one of the most hacked accounts (as well as admin). So I can authenticate as my user through my Linux box, so I tried the old trick of changing my users gid and uid, but it still sends the root user and pass. Changed that back now though. All I need is a way to get root to send the auth to the proxy server as me somehow. Thanks, Tony. it is possible to add yourself or anyone else to a group like wheel and give that group permissions to install anything that root has, heck you can change the name of root, if you want to,,, it is linux after all -Original Message- From: Dan Gordon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 3:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] urpmi as a user and not root On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 15:07:25 +0100 Tony S. Sykes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, Is it possible to do urpmi as a user and not root. Reason being is I am behind a ms proxy which authenticates user id's. They will not create a root one for me so it will have to be my own user for the updates. How do I do this? Can I do this? Thanks, Tony. I'm not sure if it is possible, when installing software in Linux it needs to put files into directory's that a normal user does not have write access in. This is why when compiling from source you need to become root to do the make install step of the installation. I don't know much about proxy's except i don't like them personally but i would think its not to hard for them to do something for you. You only need root access to the computer you wish to do urpmi on so if you can access the net as root you sould be able to use urpmi. Is it your isp that has this proxy or is it on your network or are u on a computer where you dont have root access ? Regards, Dan Gordon -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com http://www.bcpsoftware.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures
On Fri, 2003-07-25 at 17:48, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Friday 25 July 2003 09:43, Stephen Kuhn wrote: Jus pulling yer leg mate;o) Heheheheh...ya know, I used to loosen my mates' anchor chains before they went out for a sail...(at least the smart-arsed ones)...(g) We challenged 'em to a race after we'd tied all sorts of bags, buckets and other junk to their hull the night before. We'd make sure they were slobbering drunk too on those nights;o) Best I did so far was to remove two props from a Chriscraft; mate was anchored in a little harbour in Ft. Lauderdale across from the Bahia Mar...was really funny watching him stress out in the morning when the boat wasn't going anywhere - checked everything - transmissions, throuhgh-hull fittings, engines, hydraulics - before he jumped into the nasty brackish water, I showed him the props sitting in my dinghy under a tarp...(that was a mean thing to do after a heavy night of drinking). -- Fri Jul 25 18:20:00 EST 2003 18:20:00 up 11 days, 10:23, 3 users, load average: 0.64, 0.47, 0.33 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Committee Rules: (1) Never arrive on time, or you will be stamped a beginner. (2) Don't say anything until the meeting is half over; this stamps you as being wise. (3) Be as vague as possible; this prevents irritating the others. (4) When in doubt, suggest that a subcommittee be appointed. (5) Be the first to move for adjournment; this will make you popular -- it's what everyone is waiting for. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RAM question
On Friday 25 July 2003 02:05 am, crak600 wrote: ok, i was tooling around and decided to see how much ram i was currently using. i have 768mb installed and linux knows it (running a 950 processor, decent speed combo). so i look at i'm fluctuating between 5 and 20mb of free ram left. so i think this just can't be right, i mean, to use up ALL that ram when i all i hvae running is a media player, gaim, mozilla, and kmail. so i do a search and i read that it's normal for linux to do this because it's not actually using the ramm it's just keeping things stored there kinda like a hard disc for when it has to use itor something like that. is that really what it's doing? the system hasn't been running excessively long, only about a day and a half. anyway, this just boggled me and was wondering if anyone could inform me if this is really true or if something is wrong here. thanks! On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 18:11, crak600 wrote: i just fired up ksim and it says i've got 588M physical ram free. but why is there a discrepancy between what it says when i check memory and in ksim? any ideas? Difference is likely one takes the cache into account while the other is reporting without cache. There is nothing to worry about. Linux stores a lot in cache but releases what is required when needed (like opening another app). This way Linux makes the best use of your ram. Someone else may have a better explanation but thats the basic gist of it. Sharrea -- Help Microsoft stamp out piracy - give Linux to a friend today Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RAM question
On Friday 25 July 2003 10:49, Sharrea wrote: Difference is likely one takes the cache into account while the other is reporting without cache. There is nothing to worry about. Linux stores a lot in cache but releases what is required when needed (like opening another app). This way Linux makes the best use of your ram. Someone else may have a better explanation but thats the basic gist of it. Sharrea Or as Civileme once aptly stated: Memory unused is memory wasted Everything is the way it should be:o) -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Install on VMWare
Title: Install on VMWare I'm trying to install Mandrake 9.1 on VMWare 3 but all the time hangs. Can you help me Beste Regards, José Carlos Silva *** Este email assim como os ficheiros que possa ter em anexo sao confidenciais e para uso exclusivo da pessoa ou organizacao para o qual foi enviado. Se recebeu esta mensagem por engano por favor notifique a Compta atraves do endereco [EMAIL PROTECTED] Esta mensagem foi verificada pelo sistema MAILsweeper nao tendo sido encontrados virus. http://www.mimesweeper.com MAILsweeper - Modulo da suite MIMEsweeper, solucao de filtragem de conteudos comercializada pela Compta SA. A Compta SA detem o mais alto nivel de especializacao MIMEsweeper, tendo sido reconhecida pela Clearswift como Premier Partner. *** This message is confidential and may contain privileged information intended solely for the named addressee(s). It may not be used or disclosed except for the purpose for which it has been sent. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not copy, distribute or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error, please notify Compta by emailing [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoting the sender and delete the message and any attached documents. This footnote confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for Content Security threats, including computer viruses ***
Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures
On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 09:00, Cody Harris wrote: - Original Message - From: Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mandrake Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 7:50 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 11:28, Cody Harris wrote: I shut down cron cron is a very important part of the GNU/Linux system, mate... I sends me e-mails like every second complaining, so i turned it off. not to sound any dumber than usual, but why not repiar why it was sending you messages? did you ever _READ_ the message? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi.addmedia mozilla
Derek Jennings wrote: On Thursday 24 Jul 2003 11:27 am, John Richard Smith wrote: OK, but, now what is wrong ? [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# urpmi.addmedia mozilla ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrak e/9.1/contrib/RPMS with hdlist2.cz added medium mozilla examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.texstar.cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.plf.cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.jpackage.free.cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.main.cz] retrieving description file of mozilla... retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of mozilla... ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrak e/9.1/contrib/RPMS/hdlist2.cz ...retrieving failed: curl failed: exited with 19 or signal 0 retrieve of source hdlist (or synthesis) failed no hdlist file found for medium mozilla examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.mozilla.cz] problem reading synthesis file of medium mozilla unable to update medium mozilla You have made exactly the same mistake again. Instead of synthesis.hdlist2.cz you have typed hdlist2.cz You only have to enter that ftp address in the url line of a browser and you can see what the file is called. I am curious. Why are you entering a 9.1 contrib source and calling it 'mozilla'. (Mozilla is not even in that source) I know from previous posts you have already defined contrib sources before? derek Well, it would seem I remain completely baffled by this urpmi setup business. I thought I found mozilla1.4 here, seems I am mistaken. I don't think I am going to ever learn these mysterious incantations of a masonic rights of passage crossword puzzle of a command line. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MS is at it again... Now Really OT!!!
On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 23:00, Cornerstone Community Farm wrote: Carroll, You MISSED the point! The point is in the course of REAL life, with real people (versus robots or machines), issues involving philosophy and other non-list discussions come up. (boats, beer, politics, you name it) It seems odd to me that you could miss such an obvious point, as just the fact that OT topics come up on a newbie list shows we are dealing with real people, not robots:) Keith In most businesses these days, worker bees have certian rules regarding wasting company time with personal business including phone time. while you may not like considering yourself a robot, for the most part, our creative side must be controlled and our robot (or working) sides used. _This_ list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is run for business purpose's, and while almost no business would chase a customer that was chatting in the lobby (or hanging out in the OT lists) away, they might escort him to a different area than the welding production area of the manufacturing portion of plant (the equivalent of cooker, and to a less extent all the lists [EMAIL PROTECTED], imho). Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures
On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 18:11, Stephen Kuhn wrote: Look, I'd be more than happy to answer real questions for Cody if Cody wanted to make use of the information properly, run his system properly, answer threaded emails properly, have some decency and respect for those of us that are willing to lend a hand instead of constantly biting the hand that feeds... My rant is over with. what, are you upset because he has an old as fsck compaq? g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Install on VMWare
Title: Install on VMWare Where does it hang, when I installed it, it was fine. What are your system specs? What are the vmware system setting? Tony. -Original Message-From: Jose Carlos Silva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 12:30 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [newbie] Install on VMWare I'm trying to install Mandrake 9.1 on VMWare 3 but all the time hangs. Can you help me Beste Regards, José Carlos Silva ***Este email assim como os ficheiros que possa ter em anexo sao confidenciais e para uso exclusivo da pessoa ou organizacao para o qual foi enviado. Se recebeu esta mensagem por engano por favor notifique a Compta atraves do endereco [EMAIL PROTECTED] Esta mensagem foi verificada pelo sistema MAILsweeper nao tendo sido encontrados virus. http://www.mimesweeper.comMAILsweeper - Modulo da suite MIMEsweeper, solucao de filtragem de conteudos comercializada pela Compta SA.A Compta SA detem o mais alto nivel de especializacao MIMEsweeper, tendo sido reconhecida pela Clearswift como Premier Partner.***This message is confidential and may contain privileged information intended solely for the named addressee(s). It may not be used or disclosed except for the purpose for which it has been sent.If you are not the intended recipient, you must not copy, distribute or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error, please notify Compta by emailing [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoting the sender and delete the message and any attached documents.This footnote confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for Content Security threats, including computer viruses*** -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com
Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures
On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 23:18, Cody Harris wrote: Ha ha, i love doom. My friend makes maps. But these dayz i don't have much time. My webhosting business is up to 450 demanding users. And only one of me. Busy busy busy! why not drop over to Mandrake biz cases, http://www.mandrakebizcases.com/modules.php?name=Submit_News and if you use Mandrake for your servers, get a little free publicty. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi.addmedia mozilla
John Richard Smith wrote: Derek Jennings wrote: On Thursday 24 Jul 2003 11:27 am, John Richard Smith wrote: OK, but, now what is wrong ? [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# urpmi.addmedia mozilla ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrak e/9.1/contrib/RPMS with hdlist2.cz added medium mozilla examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.texstar.cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.plf.cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.jpackage.free.cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.main.cz] retrieving description file of mozilla... retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of mozilla... ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrak e/9.1/contrib/RPMS/hdlist2.cz ...retrieving failed: curl failed: exited with 19 or signal 0 retrieve of source hdlist (or synthesis) failed no hdlist file found for medium mozilla examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.mozilla.cz] problem reading synthesis file of medium mozilla unable to update medium mozilla You have made exactly the same mistake again. Instead of synthesis.hdlist2.cz you have typed hdlist2.cz You only have to enter that ftp address in the url line of a browser and you can see what the file is called. I am curious. Why are you entering a 9.1 contrib source and calling it 'mozilla'. (Mozilla is not even in that source) I know from previous posts you have already defined contrib sources before? derek Well, it would seem I remain completely baffled by this urpmi setup business. I thought I found mozilla1.4 here, seems I am mistaken. I don't think I am going to ever learn these mysterious incantations of a masonic rights of passage crossword puzzle of a command line. All you will ever need: http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/urpmiweb.php Sir Robin -- A strategy is still being formulated. Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi.addmedia mozilla
Well, it would seem I remain completely baffled by this urpmi setup business. I thought I found mozilla1.4 here, seems I am mistaken. I don't think I am going to ever learn these mysterious incantations of a masonic rights of passage crossword puzzle of a command line. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK you want mozilla 1.4 Mozilla 1.4 is in Texstars urpmi repository. How do I know? Because I looked in http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/mandrake/9.1/rpms/ If you have already defined Texstar as a urpmi source, then you need to update your local lists of the source contents. The command to do that is urpmi.update -a(the -a means update all online sources) Your local database will then know that mozilla 1.4 is in the texstar source. Now urpmi mozilla will cause your mozilla to be updated to the most recent version listed in your sources (which will be 1.4 from texstar). Alternatively you could use the rpmdrake GUI to install mozilla. If you were to make a weekly cron job containing the command 'urpmi.update -a', then you would be able to always find the most recent version of the packages you are interested in using either urpmi or rpmdrake (webmin is good for creating cron jobs) derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures
On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 19:07, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Fri, 2003-07-25 at 08:58, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Friday 25 July 2003 00:11, Stephen Kuhn wrote: Look, I'd be more than happy to answer real questions for Cody if Cody wanted to make use of the information properly, run his system properly, answer threaded emails properly, have some decency and respect for those of us that are willing to lend a hand instead of constantly biting the hand that feeds... My rant is over with. I second the rant...Cody does seem to take the easy way out or has to review his attitude. BTW: Stephen on trying to find this mail back so I could reply to it...I saw (whilst doing a search on kuhn) that you've sent 1642 messages to this list since 9.1 is out (i.e. 9.0 wasn't a topic anymore). Incredible for someone who has dial-up.keep on trucking:o) Tanx mate. Living on karma.. and too much caffine Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] what do i add to /etc/fstab to automount samba shareson boot ? user/pass/domain required
ed tharp wrote: On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 09:40, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 19:50, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what do i add to /etc/fstab to automount samba shares on boot ? user/pass/domain required Instead of doing it in the /etc/fstab - why not create a script that you can call from the /etc/rc.d/rc.local - so that if the network is hosed up, it ain't going to muck up your system or drag down performance...? (Really easy to export a mountscript from LinNeighborhood - ya don't need to know anything at all - it does it for ya) Just FYI man I wanted to see how long before he complained that if the windows box was hosed, he could not reboot into linux, that it hung right after starting eth0. You're evil ;-) I discovered the joys of rc relatively recently, when I used it for my dialup connection. Has the advantage that you can trash X and stay online, not to mention not having to fiddle with Kppp. Sir Robin -- A strategy is still being formulated. Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RAM question
On Thursday 24 July 2003 07:01 pm, Aron Smith wrote: On Friday 25 July 2003 03:37 am, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Friday 25 July 2003 10:49, Sharrea wrote: Difference is likely one takes the cache into account while the other is reporting without cache. There is nothing to worry about. Linux stores a lot in cache but releases what is required when needed (like opening another app). This way Linux makes the best use of your ram. Someone else may have a better explanation but thats the basic gist of it. Sharrea Or as Civileme once aptly stated: Memory unused is memory wasted Everything is the way it should be:o) Or as we used to say Nothing is more useless than Altitude above you or Runway behind you thank you. i think i got it now. i was just kinda confused because i've looked at it before and it's never been that full. ksim shows one, the memory shows another, and yeah, i can understand that it's cache-ing it and not diong any harm. i think i got it. the system moves fast enough and smooth enough for what i've got in here, so i think i'm diong ok. thanks again for the explanations! Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SBr Temp
On Friday 25 July 2003 04:17 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Fri, 2003-07-25 at 12:51, Chris wrote: I asked Dennis what this was off-list and hes not sure, so I'll throw this out to the rest. Below is my sensors output, what is SBr temp? Spectral Band Replication Scientifically Based Research Short Barrel Rifle Space Based Radar Styrene Butadiene Rubber Sequencing Batch Reactor System Board Resistor/Resistance Seat Belt Reminder Similarity Based Regression Sudden Bradycardia Response Seriously Big reply! :-) -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi.addmedia mozilla
Robin Turner wrote: John Richard Smith wrote: Derek Jennings wrote: On Thursday 24 Jul 2003 11:27 am, John Richard Smith wrote: OK, but, now what is wrong ? [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# urpmi.addmedia mozilla ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrak e/9.1/contrib/RPMS with hdlist2.cz added medium mozilla examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.texstar.cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.plf.cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.jpackage.free.cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.main.cz] retrieving description file of mozilla... retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of mozilla... ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrak e/9.1/contrib/RPMS/hdlist2.cz ...retrieving failed: curl failed: exited with 19 or signal 0 retrieve of source hdlist (or synthesis) failed no hdlist file found for medium mozilla examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.mozilla.cz] problem reading synthesis file of medium mozilla unable to update medium mozilla You have made exactly the same mistake again. Instead of synthesis.hdlist2.cz you have typed hdlist2.cz You only have to enter that ftp address in the url line of a browser and you can see what the file is called. I am curious. Why are you entering a 9.1 contrib source and calling it 'mozilla'. (Mozilla is not even in that source) I know from previous posts you have already defined contrib sources before? derek Well, it would seem I remain completely baffled by this urpmi setup business. I thought I found mozilla1.4 here, seems I am mistaken. I don't think I am going to ever learn these mysterious incantations of a masonic rights of passage crossword puzzle of a command line. All you will ever need: http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/urpmiweb.php Sir Robin It hasn't helped me much John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] MS in trouble, sorry it's kinda OT
http://www.fortune.com/fortune/technology/articles/0,15114,466180,00.html i don't think this has been posted yet, and i think it's definetly worth a read. i came across this last night and just laughed. it's pretty funny that the company that's working to stop piracy of their operating systems is now getting in trouble for something like this. how ironic! it's even better that InterTrust tried to give them a heads up about patents and microsoft forged ahead anyway. how funny would it be if they actually were ordered to stop sales of their XP and related software and the world had to turn elsewhere? (guess there'd be more NEW newbies like me hanging around!) sorry if it's OT posted to the regular list, but i'm not on the OT list. so if it's really OT, we just won't send out any replies to the list...sound fair? :) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi.addmedia mozilla
Derek Jennings wrote: Well, it would seem I remain completely baffled by this urpmi setup business. I thought I found mozilla1.4 here, seems I am mistaken. I don't think I am going to ever learn these mysterious incantations of a masonic rights of passage crossword puzzle of a command line. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK you want mozilla 1.4 Mozilla 1.4 is in Texstars urpmi repository. How do I know? Because I looked in http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/mandrake/9.1/rpms/ If you have already defined Texstar as a urpmi source, then you need to update your local lists of the source contents. The command to do that is urpmi.update -a(the -a means update all online sources) Your local database will then know that mozilla 1.4 is in the texstar source. Now urpmi mozilla will cause your mozilla to be updated to the most recent version listed in your sources (which will be 1.4 from texstar). Alternatively you could use the rpmdrake GUI to install mozilla. If you were to make a weekly cron job containing the command 'urpmi.update -a', then you would be able to always find the most recent version of the packages you are interested in using either urpmi or rpmdrake (webmin is good for creating cron jobs) derek Isn't there some way I can just find out what packages I need, download them using a download programme line d4x , stick the packages in a directory all by themselves, cd to the diesctory sources, and urpmi to install them for me. . John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Installing on a SCSI system
I have 8.2 on my gateway/firewall machine. I'd like 9.1 on there, but the damn thing won't boot to the CD. If I go into the SCSI bios and monkey with it that the drive is basically hidden, I can boot to CD; but because the hard drive is hidden, I can't install! The comp's bios is set to boot from CD first, but the SCSI always takes over. How do I exit this loop? Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi.addmedia mozilla
On Friday 25 July 2003 21:52, John Richard Smith wrote: Isn't there some way I can just find out what packages I need, download them using a download programme line d4x , stick the packages in a directory all by themselves, cd to the diesctory sources, and urpmi to install them for me. . John Nothing easier than that, especially if you're using KDE. Open your home directory, split the window then type in the bar ftp://url of the site/etc./9.1 and connect. Then just drag drop the packages you want to your home directory. or if you don't want to save them, just click (or double click) them there and install. In the latter case you obviously don't need to split the window:o) You'll only be prompted for your root password once:o) -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] questions about mdk 9.1
Hi to all the people in the list. I have some questions about my linux mdk 9.1 installation. #1. After a by-mistake reset at the time the mdk 9.1 was doing fsck check in my system. Some files have been lost. The only way to find out what files are missing from my installation is kpackage that give a long list of all files in every rpm of the system. I am pretty newbie to linux so I would like to make a total rpm check in my system so all the files that are missing from my system to be updated from the installation disks. Is it possible? I don't want to reinstall the OS. I take the reinstallation of mdk 9.1 as a defeat! In the past 3 moths I fought heavilly with all the problems I faced , trying to avoid reinstallation .. :) #2. the last days I cannot load inside KDE any application that wants su rights. (like mcc for example). I can go to terminal and type su and then mcc to load it . But when I click on the icon the application doesn't load! The same time a strange problem has appeared. When I login in KDE I get the network configuration wizard that wants me to enter root password to configure my network. I must click cancel to enter to desktop. I don't know for sure, but I think those two problems are related some how. Any help would be greatly appreciated Manolis --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing on a SCSI system
You shouldn't need to make any changes in the SCSI bios. All changes should be made in the system bios--I've done a lot of SCSI installations, and I've never reset the SCSI bios. The first thing I would try is turning off booting from SCSI and Harddisk in my system bios, choosing CDROM, Floppy, Zip, or whatever. Then try it again. If that works, don't forget to turn it on again at first boot, after install. If that doesn't work, I would make a boot floppy and try starting the install that way. Last, there is always the hard disk install (I have had to do that once, but the system was ide, not scsi). On Friday 25 July 2003 11:54 am, Miark wrote: I have 8.2 on my gateway/firewall machine. I'd like 9.1 on there, but the damn thing won't boot to the CD. If I go into the SCSI bios and monkey with it that the drive is basically hidden, I can boot to CD; but because the hard drive is hidden, I can't install! The comp's bios is set to boot from CD first, but the SCSI always takes over. How do I exit this loop? Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing on a SCSI system
Miark wrote: I have 8.2 on my gateway/firewall machine. I'd like 9.1 on there, but the damn thing won't boot to the CD. If I go into the SCSI bios and monkey with it that the drive is basically hidden, I can boot to CD; but because the hard drive is hidden, I can't install! The comp's bios is set to boot from CD first, but the SCSI always takes over. How do I exit this loop? Miark Often there will be a separate bios option to boot either scsi or ide. I know that's how it is on my Asus. You would need to change that one as well. Hope that helps. -- Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it. -George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman (1903) Maxims for Revolutionists Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi.addmedia mozilla
On Friday 25 Jul 2003 8:52 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: Derek Jennings wrote: Well, it would seem I remain completely baffled by this urpmi setup business. I thought I found mozilla1.4 here, seems I am mistaken. I don't think I am going to ever learn these mysterious incantations of a masonic rights of passage crossword puzzle of a command line. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK you want mozilla 1.4 Mozilla 1.4 is in Texstars urpmi repository. How do I know? Because I looked in http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/mandrake/9. 1/rpms/ If you have already defined Texstar as a urpmi source, then you need to update your local lists of the source contents. The command to do that is urpmi.update -a(the -a means update all online sources) Your local database will then know that mozilla 1.4 is in the texstar source. Now urpmi mozilla will cause your mozilla to be updated to the most recent version listed in your sources (which will be 1.4 from texstar). Alternatively you could use the rpmdrake GUI to install mozilla. If you were to make a weekly cron job containing the command 'urpmi.update -a', then you would be able to always find the most recent version of the packages you are interested in using either urpmi or rpmdrake (webmin is good for creating cron jobs) derek Isn't there some way I can just find out what packages I need, download them using a download programme line d4x , stick the packages in a directory all by themselves, cd to the diesctory sources, and urpmi to install them for me. . John Why do you want to do things the hard way? It really is very simple. You define a list of online sources using either urpmi.addmedia or the sources GUI in rpmdrake. Each source has a name to reflect what is in it. For example 'main' is the main distro and is exactly the same as the CDs 'contrib' is the extra applications not on the CDs 'texstar' are the applications added by Texstar 'plf' are those applications not in the distro for legal reasons. 'update' are the applications updated by Mandrake Once your sources are added you never touch them again. But you do have to update your local list of the sources contents because they can change (main and contrib will not.) urpmi.update -a will update the lists, just run it before you want to install anything. Alternatively press the 'Update' button in the Mandrake software sources manager. It does the same thing. Then just use the Mandrake software Manager GUI. All the applications will be listed. The GUI gives you the option to list packages 'by upgrade availability'. Just click on any you want to install. BTW: Just clicking on an rpm using konqueror will install it using gurpmi You do not even have to download it. Gurpmi will automatically use urpmi to get any dependencies needed from any source. But if you have not been running urpmi.update it is possible for the local list to be out of sync with the remote sources, and the install will fail. ***The key to success is to run urpmi.update -a regularly*** derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Installing on a SCSI system
Same setup here. IDE CDROM and SCSI disks. Try getting into the SCSI BIOS. (With Adaptec, you'll see a Ctrl A prompt after your PC BIOS loads.) There, you should be able to find the option that makes it work. If it's not Adaptec, there should be something similar. HTH, ~Brandon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Miark Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 11:55 AM To: Newbie Subject: [newbie] Installing on a SCSI system I have 8.2 on my gateway/firewall machine. I'd like 9.1 on there, but the damn thing won't boot to the CD. If I go into the SCSI bios and monkey with it that the drive is basically hidden, I can boot to CD; but because the hard drive is hidden, I can't install! The comp's bios is set to boot from CD first, but the SCSI always takes over. How do I exit this loop? Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Xfree86 devel failed to install
Hi I might need a small help to install XFree86-devel #urpmi XFree86-devel: 1:XFree86-devel error: unpacking of archive failed on file /usr/include/GL: cpio: rename failed - Is a directory What that might need to install ? thanks Kristjan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] i'm looking for a very good WYSIWYG editor other thanMozilla composer
Warren Post wrote: Take a look at IBM WebSphere. It's not free, but it's just as good as Dreamweaver and costs a lot less. When you have the time, consider learning hand coding. It is not as hard as it seems, and hand coding is the only way you are going to get your sites exactly how you want them. Here's a link for it: http://www-132.ibm.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?lang=en_UScatalogId=-840categoryId=2057316cgmenbr=1dualCurrId=73langId=-1cgrfnbr=2057316y=8x=16cntrfnbr=1storeId=1cntry=840scrfnbr=73 Long, huh. -- Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it. -George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman (1903) Maxims for Revolutionists Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Help please
I got LM 9.2b1 installed and running nicely except: I can't find Koffice Openoffice screensaver etc when I click on (KDE desktop) K button the only options that are available are bookmarks quick browser run command lock screen logout Help please. How do I add Koffice, gnumeric,etc? (please make it simple. I'm a WinXP user converting to a real OS) Thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi.addmedia mozilla
On Friday 25 July 2003 22:19, Derek Jennings wrote: with the remote sources, and the install will fail. ***The key to success is to run urpmi.update -a regularly*** derek Derek, I for one do not agree! Some way or other (especially) the plf site refuses to update using curl. Be it using the update utility in MCC or the CML with urpmi.update plf..etc. The only way I can get this to work is: urpmi.removemedia plf and then urpmi.addmedia plf etc.. Somehow the plf hdlist.cz doesn't want to be reread or refreshed:o( I'm not quit in the clear either, i.e. maybe you can shed some light: Normally the hdlist.cz sits with the rpms in the same directory, in the case of my mirror (time4t) it sits in the directory 9.1 after which I have to go into the lower (or is it higher?) directory i586. Could that be the problem? Just shooting in the dark here. -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] i'm looking for a very good WYSIWYG editor other than Mozilla composer
On Friday 25 July 2003 23:31, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: Warren Post wrote: Take a look at IBM WebSphere. It's not free, but it's just as good as Dreamweaver and costs a lot less. When you have the time, consider learning hand coding. It is not as hard as it seems, and hand coding is the only way you are going to get your sites exactly how you want them. Here's a link for it: http://www-132.ibm.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?lang=en_US catalogId=-840categoryId=2057316cgmenbr=1dualCurrId=73langId=-1cgrfnbr =2057316y=8x=16cntrfnbr=1storeId=1cntry=840scrfnbr=73 Long, huh. Before I even think of downloading it (methinks I've got it on a CD somewhere) what's the code look like? I actually like mozilla composer and the code it produces. I'm nowhere near at creating better code by hand, frankly. If its about integrating flashplayer, etc..don't!!! The content has got to be real shit, if it needs stuf like that to be accepted or even read! Easy way out: Do not publish shit'! -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Help please
On Friday 25 Jul 2003 10:19 pm, gilligan wrote: I got LM 9.2b1 installed and running nicely except: I can't find Koffice Openoffice screensaver etc when I click on (KDE desktop) K button the only options that are available are bookmarks quick browser run command lock screen logout Help please. How do I add Koffice, gnumeric,etc? (please make it simple. I'm a WinXP user converting to a real OS) Thanks If you are a new Linux user then *do not use* Mdk 9.2 Beta1 It is ***beta*** code It *will* be incomplete and will have bugs. For a stable release use Mandrake 9.1 derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi.addmedia mozilla
H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Friday 25 July 2003 21:52, John Richard Smith wrote: Isn't there some way I can just find out what packages I need, download them using a download programme line d4x , stick the packages in a directory all by themselves, cd to the diesctory sources, and urpmi to install them for me. . John Nothing easier than that, especially if you're using KDE. Open your home directory, split the window then type in the bar ftp://url of the site/etc./9.1 and connect. Then just drag drop the packages you want to your home directory. or if you don't want to save them, just click (or double click) them there and install. In the latter case you obviously don't need to split the window:o) You'll only be prompted for your root password once:o) Yes, I see what you mean, but I don't see how you know what set of packages to download, because in linux they never seem able to budle the lot into one or two packages. Take the Mozilla instance above, how do I know what other packages makes a completed list of packages ? Especially when updating ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] User IDs start at 500 or 501?
I just installed 9.1 on a new system and ran into a difference between how the installer creates new users and how drakconf does. I created a couple of users during the install and they ended up with uid = 501 and 502. As they always have on previous versions of Mandrake. Then when the system was up I created several more, very carefully creating them in the same order as on our other systems. After I spent all the time getting them created and set up, I discovered that they did not match the uid's on our other systems. It seems that drakconf starts its numbering at 500. So, using letters for the order in which I created them, the users were a=501, b=502, c=500, d=503, e=504, etc. I had to rip out all the users from c up, create a dummy at 500 and redo them. Argghhh. Why? andy -- Andy Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you know what you're doing, you're not learning anything. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi.addmedia mozilla
On Friday 25 Jul 2003 10:47 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Friday 25 July 2003 22:19, Derek Jennings wrote: with the remote sources, and the install will fail. ***The key to success is to run urpmi.update -a regularly*** derek Derek, I for one do not agree! Some way or other (especially) the plf site refuses to update using curl. Be it using the update utility in MCC or the CML with urpmi.update plf..etc. The only way I can get this to work is: urpmi.removemedia plf and then urpmi.addmedia plf etc.. Somehow the plf hdlist.cz doesn't want to be reread or refreshed:o( I'm not quit in the clear either, i.e. maybe you can shed some light: Normally the hdlist.cz sits with the rpms in the same directory, in the case of my mirror (time4t) it sits in the directory 9.1 after which I have to go into the lower (or is it higher?) directory i586. Could that be the problem? Just shooting in the dark here. There are a couple of issues here. 1/ Some of the mirrors are *very* slow. Especially the plf ones. The only plf mirror I find consistent is 'club-internet'. Even that one is slow compared to a normal mirror. Some of the normal mirrors are also slow. I find the Spanish mirror 'rediris' is consistently fast. Find a good mirror and your updates will fly through. 2/ There is an issue with urpmi and curl in the stock Mandrake 9.1 distro. For example downloads from the Mandrake_Club mirror are impossible unless you use the --wget switch to force wget instead of curl. (wget and curl are both 'download managers') There is an update for urpmi and curl on the Mandrake update mirrors. Once you have your update sources defined be sure to update urpmi and curl among your first updates and you will have no more problems. 3/ hdlist.cz and synthesis.hdlist.cz are files containing a list of packages on a mirror. The synthesis.hdlist.cz file is a simple list, while the hdlist.cz file also contains descriptions and a list of files within packages. You can choose which of them you use when you download the source contents. Because the hdlist.cz file is so much larger the synthesis.hdlist.cz file is a better choice for dial up users. The synthesis.hdlist.cz and hdlist.cz files can exist in the same folder as the actual packages or may be on a different folder on the server. So when you specify a source with urpmi.addmedia it is necessary to specify where the list file is relative to the packages folder. For example 'with synthesis.hdlist.cz' means synthesis.hdlist.cz is in the same folder. But 'with ../base/hdlist.cz' means 'up' one folder, then down into folder 'base' to find the hdlist.cz file. If you find this confusing then just use the 'easy urpmi' page at http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php to work it out for you. Or else install the urpmi.setup RPM and run the urpmi.setup GUI to work it out for you. You may notice some files are called hdlist2.cz The reason for this is that the Mandrake mirrors keep alll the hdlist files in one folder. The hdlist2.cz file refers to the 'contrib' packages. HTH derek HTH derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi.addmedia mozilla
Derek Jennings wrote: On Friday 25 Jul 2003 10:47 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Friday 25 July 2003 22:19, Derek Jennings wrote: with the remote sources, and the install will fail. ***The key to success is to run urpmi.update -a regularly*** derek Derek, I for one do not agree! Some way or other (especially) the plf site refuses to update using curl. Be it using the update utility in MCC or the CML with urpmi.update plf..etc. The only way I can get this to work is: urpmi.removemedia plf and then urpmi.addmedia plf etc.. Somehow the plf hdlist.cz doesn't want to be reread or refreshed:o( I'm not quit in the clear either, i.e. maybe you can shed some light: Normally the hdlist.cz sits with the rpms in the same directory, in the case of my mirror (time4t) it sits in the directory 9.1 after which I have to go into the lower (or is it higher?) directory i586. Could that be the problem? Just shooting in the dark here. There are a couple of issues here. 1/ Some of the mirrors are *very* slow. Especially the plf ones. The only plf mirror I find consistent is 'club-internet'. Even that one is slow compared to a normal mirror. Some of the normal mirrors are also slow. I find the Spanish mirror 'rediris' is consistently fast. Find a good mirror and your updates will fly through. 2/ There is an issue with urpmi and curl in the stock Mandrake 9.1 distro. For example downloads from the Mandrake_Club mirror are impossible unless you use the --wget switch to force wget instead of curl. (wget and curl are both 'download managers') There is an update for urpmi and curl on the Mandrake update mirrors. Once you have your update sources defined be sure to update urpmi and curl among your first updates and you will have no more problems. 3/ hdlist.cz and synthesis.hdlist.cz are files containing a list of packages on a mirror. The synthesis.hdlist.cz file is a simple list, while the hdlist.cz file also contains descriptions and a list of files within packages. You can choose which of them you use when you download the source contents. Because the hdlist.cz file is so much larger the synthesis.hdlist.cz file is a better choice for dial up users. The synthesis.hdlist.cz and hdlist.cz files can exist in the same folder as the actual packages or may be on a different folder on the server. So when you specify a source with urpmi.addmedia it is necessary to specify where the list file is relative to the packages folder. For example 'with synthesis.hdlist.cz' means synthesis.hdlist.cz is in the same folder. But 'with ../base/hdlist.cz' means 'up' one folder, then down into folder 'base' to find the hdlist.cz file. If you find this confusing then just use the 'easy urpmi' page at http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php to work it out for you. Or else install the urpmi.setup RPM and run the urpmi.setup GUI to work it out for you. You may notice some files are called hdlist2.cz The reason for this is that the Mandrake mirrors keep alll the hdlist files in one folder. The hdlist2.cz file refers to the 'contrib' packages. HTH derek HTH derek Thanks Derek, tis a lot clearer now . But , pray, tell this newbie , what is a contrib, What's the difference between the various RPM, RPMS,and I already know SCRPM is source code rpm's , and any others. I find the various long list of rpm types confusing. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Help please
On Friday 25 July 2003 09:19 pm, gilligan wrote: I got LM 9.2b1 installed and running nicely except: I can't find Koffice Openoffice screensaver etc when I click on (KDE desktop) K button the only options that are available are bookmarks quick browser run command lock screen logout Help please. How do I add Koffice, gnumeric,etc? (please make it simple. I'm a WinXP user converting to a real OS) Thanks Gilligan, just one notice : 9.2b1 is - as its name implies - a beta distribution. Don't expect everything to work perfectly. If you are new to Linux (as I am for 5 years now), don't mess with betas or RC's (release candidates) but stick to stable, proven releases. Furthermore, Mandrake is always on the *cutting edge* of developement, so even the *stable* releases are buggy or incomplete. That's part of the fun, though. Conclusion : forget about 9.2 until it has been officially released, then wait another month or two while reading this list, take notes on important issues (not the political ones !) and then : download and install, with notes at hand. Regards Kaj Haulrich. -- Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org Powered by Linux - Mandrake 9.1 -kernel 2.4.21-0.24mdk Brought to you from a 100 % Micro$oft-free computer. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] mathematica 4.0
I installed a mathematica trial version for linux. The program works fine in computations and all except the keyboard. Some function keys don't give good output. For example I cannot use the Backspace or del key to delete somthing.. In place of a character removal I get a box character... I also noticed that mathematica has an option that spells: Pure keys When I enable that I can no longer write anything until I disable it. Any experience in this? Mandrake 9.1 with all updates excpet kernel Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi.addmedia mozilla
On Saturday 26 July 2003 01:20, John Richard Smith wrote: Yes, I see what you mean, but I don't see how you know what set of packages to download, because in linux they never seem able to budle the lot into one or two packages. Take the Mozilla instance above, how do I know what other packages makes a completed list of packages ? Especially when updating ? John Well frankly, I do download i.e. save the packages for other machines on my network so I never have to dl the same package twice. This means a first try at downloadinging and installing, and if it asked for other (dependent) packages... I take note and add them next time. It's almost like the install orgies in the old days with rpm. Once you get the hang of it, there's no stopping any more:o) Note: I only do this on my cable (=broadband) connection. If you dont have the broadband, go to rpmfind.net, look up the specific package and read the depencies beforehand. They're all there in the .html file, just scroll down a bit. Actually urpmi was created to put an end to all this. It does just that as long as the hdlist.cz files are good enough. There's the weak spot! -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi.addmedia mozilla
On Saturday 26 July 2003 00:23, Derek Jennings wrote: HTH derek It did, as I knew it would:o) Thank you very much for your consistent help and effort. -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mathematica 4.0
Found it ! If anyone has the same problem you must simply put the NumLock key to off state Then suddenly all the keys are working fine! This must be a bug in mathematica... 26 2003 01:48, / manolis : I installed a mathematica trial version for linux. The program works fine in computations and all except the keyboard. Some function keys don't give good output. For example I cannot use the Backspace or del key to delete somthing.. In place of a character removal I get a box character... I also noticed that mathematica has an option that spells: Pure keys When I enable that I can no longer write anything until I disable it. Any experience in this? Mandrake 9.1 with all updates excpet kernel Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi.addmedia mozilla
On Friday 25 July 2003 10:52 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Saturday 26 July 2003 00:23, Derek Jennings wrote: HTH derek It did, as I knew it would:o) Thank you very much for your consistent help and effort. In an addition to the above from the Netherlands, I just want to let Derek Jennings know that he can count Denmark in as well. Kaj Haulrich. -- Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org Powered by Linux - Mandrake 9.1 -kernel 2.4.21-0.25mdk Brought to you from a 100 % Micro$oft-free computer. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi.addmedia mozilla
Thanks Derek, tis a lot clearer now . But , pray, tell this newbie , what is a contrib, What's the difference between the various RPM, RPMS,and I already know SCRPM is source code rpm's , and any others. I find the various long list of rpm types confusing. John Contrib is the name of a folder on a Mandrake Mirror. For example look at ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/9.1 You will see it contains a folder called i586/Mandrake/RPMS That folder is the 'main' distribution. It contains exactly the same packages as the download CDs. (I have broadband so I use it instead of the CDs) You can also see a folder /contrib/RPMS This folder contains all the packages which are not part of the 'official' Mandrake distro, but which have been 'contributed' by various individuals who may even be Mandrake staff members. Contrib contains literally hundreds of really useful packages (such as Sylpheed) The packages in Contrib will not change. They represent a 'snapshot' . To get updated versions of these apps you have to look in places like texstar, mandrake club, or the download sites of individuals. (Or compile your own) (You will notice that the i586/Mandrake/RPMS2 folder is in fact a symlink pointing to /contrib/RPMS so these folders are both the same thing. ) derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SBr Temp
On Sat, 2003-07-26 at 02:06, magnet wrote: On Friday 25 Jul 2003 9:17 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Fri, 2003-07-25 at 12:51, Chris wrote: I asked Dennis what this was off-list and hes not sure, so I'll throw this out to the rest. Below is my sensors output, what is SBr temp? Spectral Band Replication Scientifically Based Research Short Barrel Rifle Space Based Radar Styrene Butadiene Rubber Sequencing Batch Reactor System Board Resistor/Resistance Seat Belt Reminder Similarity Based Regression Sudden Bradycardia Response Stephen Being Repressed g Oy - ya musta been talking to my wife! -- Sat Jul 26 09:20:00 EST 2003 09:20:00 up 12 days, 1:23, 3 users, load average: 0.14, 0.15, 0.17 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * And so we say goodbye to our beloved pet, Nibbler, who's gone to a place where I too hope one day to go: the toilet. -Prof. Farnsworth Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Looking for options for a scrap PC
I posted a little while ago about this machine that I have 'inherited' from a friend. Proc: Pentium 120 RAM: 48MB (upgraded from 16) Hard Drives: (1) 3GB and (1) 2GB This machine has no CD ROM (and no space for it since there are 2 Hard Drives) a Network Card and 3.5 inch floppy. It is currently running Windows 95 and at one time was configured to boot to Windows NT 4.0 Workstation. I would like to set this machine up to learn Linux. I already have a machine running Mandrake 9.0 but I don't feel that I am learning anything with it. I would like to get more familiar with the command line, maybe run a webserver and mysql, a minimal desktop environment, if any, etc. I would like to stay with mandrake, if this is posible. If not, can someone recommend another distribution of Linux? As I said, there is only the network card and the 3.5 inch floppy to install anything. I would also like advice on partitioning and swap space setup. I would like to make the most of what I have. I dont see putting a lot of files on this machine so I can use the space for memory or whatever. I have no problem with deleting the win95 or whatever else is on this machine. URL's, advice, instructions, ideas welcome and appreciated. Thanks in advance. -- ThinKer email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://thoughtprogress.com ...fear controls knowledge controls fear ... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures
On Sat, 2003-07-26 at 01:31, ed tharp wrote: not to seem even more dumb, but did you ask about the mailman problem? and maybe how to shut off mailman, since mailman is a mailing-list-server that you don't need, and have miss configured? Maybe he's the kind that changes the tire when the hubcap falls off... -- Sat Jul 26 09:15:00 EST 2003 09:15:00 up 12 days, 1:18, 3 users, load average: 0.07, 0.16, 0.18 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * I feel like a wet parking meter on Darvon! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Logitech Marble Mouse
I have a Logitech Marble Mouse and I did not see this hardware in the list of the Supported Hardware does anyone installed Mandrake 9.1 with this mouse. Thank you -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.148 / Virus Database: 259.9.3 - Release Date: 2003-07-24
Re: [newbie] XFce4 newbie problems
On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 23:28:37 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, I've finally got it up and running. I needed to reboot the computer for KDM to show XFce4. (Was that in your directions? I apologize, if it was, since that means I wasted your time.) But, I wanted to say thanks a lot for helping me out and creating the rpms for XFce4. Jack To tell you the truth, I don't remember if I rebooted or not. I have an 11-month old daughter who has discovered the buttons on the computer and for a while there she was turning it off 2 or 3 times a day. But I don't *think* it's necessary; when I learned how to do it I added entries for fluxbox and oroborus, and I'm pretty sure I didn't reboot to see them. Did you rename your 19xfce4 to 19XFce4? Just wondering if *that* was case-sensitive and had to match everything else. Todd -- Name that tune #7: A lot of people don't have much food on their table, but they got a lot of forks and knives; well they gotta cut something. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] questions about mdk 9.1
On Sat, 2003-07-26 at 05:53, manolis wrote: Hi to all the people in the list. I have some questions about my linux mdk 9.1 installation. #1. After a by-mistake reset at the time the mdk 9.1 was doing fsck check in my system. Some files have been lost. The only way to find out what files are missing from my installation is kpackage that give a long list of all files in every rpm of the system. I am pretty newbie to linux so I would like to make a total rpm check in my system so all the files that are missing from my system to be updated from the installation disks. Is it possible? I don't want to reinstall the OS. I take the reinstallation of mdk 9.1 as a defeat! In the past 3 moths I fought heavilly with all the problems I faced , trying to avoid reinstallation .. :) Look - especially for a newbie, reinstallation ain't nothing more than a lesson - doing repeated installations only makes you smarter about how you're installing it, how you're making use of your disk space for optimal performance, what packages and options you're choosing from the beginning...I wish I could count how many times I've reinstalled any distribution of linux - it's thousands, mate, thousands... Meanwhile, a consideration to make is that you've corrupted the file system by accident - and that's alright - but if you do an installation again, you can choose a file system like ReiserFS that can generally handle such accidents - use it for your / and your /home partition - you might be surprised at the results. #2. the last days I cannot load inside KDE any application that wants su rights. (like mcc for example). I can go to terminal and type su and then mcc to load it . But when I click on the icon the application doesn't load! The same time a strange problem has appeared. When I login in KDE I get the network configuration wizard that wants me to enter root password to configure my network. I must click cancel to enter to desktop. I don't know for sure, but I think those two problems are related some how. I'd tend to reckon that the system's corrupted, the /etc/passwd is probably corrupted - best reinstall. -- Sat Jul 26 09:30:00 EST 2003 09:30:00 up 12 days, 1:33, 3 users, load average: 0.27, 0.17, 0.14 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Compassion -- that's the one things no machine ever had. Maybe it's the one thing that keeps men ahead of them. -- McCoy, The Ultimate Computer, stardate 4731.3 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures
- Original Message - From: ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 12:31 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures On Fri, 2003-07-25 at 08:45, Cody Harris wrote: - Original Message - From: ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 8:03 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 09:00, Cody Harris wrote: - Original Message - From: Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mandrake Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 7:50 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 11:28, Cody Harris wrote: I shut down cron cron is a very important part of the GNU/Linux system, mate... I sends me e-mails like every second complaining, so i turned it off. not to sound any dumber than usual, but why not repiar why it was sending you messages? did you ever _READ_ the message? Yes! It was complaing about premission errors bout some Mailman file. But when i change it, it changes back the next time an e-mail is sent to complain about it not being writable. So i made python un readable (but then it just complain about python and saved me disk space). But after i left for one day and came back and there was 600 e-mails from the damn thing. So i simply service crond stop after not finding a way to remove it. not to seem even more dumb, but did you ask about the mailman problem? and maybe how to shut off mailman, since mailman is a mailing-list-server that you don't need, and have miss configured? My computer was out of date, and i followed the uninstall instudctions...no help when asked either. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi.addmedia mozilla
On Saturday 26 Jul 2003 12:01 am, Derek Jennings wrote: Thanks Derek, tis a lot clearer now . But , pray, tell this newbie , what is a contrib, What's the difference between the various RPM, RPMS,and I already know SCRPM is source code rpm's , and any others. I find the various long list of rpm types confusing. John Contrib is the name of a folder on a Mandrake Mirror. For example look at ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/9.1 You will see it contains a folder called i586/Mandrake/RPMS That folder is the 'main' distribution. It contains exactly the same packages as the download CDs. (I have broadband so I use it instead of the CDs) You can also see a folder /contrib/RPMS This folder contains all the packages which are not part of the 'official' Mandrake distro, but which have been 'contributed' by various individuals who may even be Mandrake staff members. Contrib contains literally hundreds of really useful packages (such as Sylpheed) The packages in Contrib will not change. They represent a 'snapshot' . To get updated versions of these apps you have to look in places like texstar, mandrake club, or the download sites of individuals. (Or compile your own) (You will notice that the i586/Mandrake/RPMS2 folder is in fact a symlink pointing to /contrib/RPMS so these folders are both the same thing. ) derek I thought I had better add this extra warning to my last mail :- rant/ If you look here ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake-devel on a Mandrake mirror you will see the 'development' branch of the Mandrake distribution. In here is 'cooker' which is the folder holding the latest development version of the distro. The packages in this folder will change daily, and may contain some packages which are broken. Unless you are a experienced Linux user it is a *very bad* idea to install packages from Cooker. Especially if you are mixing them with packages from 9.1 . These packages have been compiled using a different set of libraries to Mandrake 9.1. They are unlikely to work in a 9.1 system. You will also see the folder 'contrib'. This folder is the current development folder for the unofficial packages. Again you should only use them if you know what you are doing. Many newbies download and install packages they find using www.rpmfind.net Be aware. Rpmfind will offer you packages from cooker and cooker/contrib If you try and install them you will run into dependency problems. Anyone tempted to use the --force and --nodeps switches to make them install will quite often break something. Every week this list gets posts from people who have done this. (Sorry if I am on my 'high horse' here, but I am often one of the guys who try to help people undo the damage they have inflicted on themselves doing this) There is *nothing* available from rpmfind.net you cannot get using urpmi sources (other than cooker packages and packages made for other distros) /rant derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures
- Original Message - From: Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mandrake Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures On Sat, 2003-07-26 at 01:31, ed tharp wrote: not to seem even more dumb, but did you ask about the mailman problem? and maybe how to shut off mailman, since mailman is a mailing-list-server that you don't need, and have miss configured? Maybe he's the kind that changes the tire when the hubcap falls off... Sure, if the tire has a built in hub-cap. If the hub cap fell off, that would mean the tire fell off. Therefore, there had to be a defect (in the car, or in this case, MDK) or the tire (mailman). I have sucessfully removed everything but that stupid cron, which i should perminamtly remove or delete. -- Sat Jul 26 09:15:00 EST 2003 09:15:00 up 12 days, 1:18, 3 users, load average: 0.07, 0.16, 0.18 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * I feel like a wet parking meter on Darvon! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] questions about mdk 9.1
26 2003 02:35, / Stephen Kuhn : Look - especially for a newbie, reinstallation ain't nothing more than a lesson - doing repeated installations only makes you smarter about how you're installing it, how you're making use of your disk space for optimal performance, what packages and options you're choosing from the beginning...I wish I could count how many times I've reinstalled any distribution of linux - it's thousands, mate, thousands... Meanwhile, a consideration to make is that you've corrupted the file system by accident - and that's alright - but if you do an installation again, you can choose a file system like ReiserFS that can generally handle such accidents - use it for your / and your /home partition - you might be surprised at the results. After the problem I was not able to login in KDE, after many tries ...now I can . I think this is a progress. One of the things I 'd loved about winXP is that I never reinstalled them. Even upgraded them from win2k ( I did many times recovery console though). I was pretty advanced in windows. As advanced can be one in a windowz environment. :) I do not like to reinstall all the applications and drivers now... I think it is a minor problem I could manage it .. in time... even though I am pretty newbie in linux world. One thing that admired from the first time in the world of linux is that anything can be done in such minor issues... or at WORST everything can be tried!!! :) The only info I got from the above is the ReiserFS that I didn't know about it. Thank you for this. Is there a place on the internet to read about ReiserFS? I'd tend to reckon that the system's corrupted, the /etc/passwd is probably corrupted - best reinstall. yes, but if there was a major problem in passwords handling there would be no pop up for root password in KDE eventually (some rare times it works!). The KDE is the only graphical GUI that gives me the error. The password handling is working fine in other GUIs. (IceWM , Gnome, WM). I want to state one time again that I am linux NEWBIE, with the above I don't try to be smart... I know that there are many things that I don't know ... I just want to figure out things through argument... Sorry for my english... Thanks for your post. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] questions about mdk 9.1
manolis wrote: ??? 26 2003 02:35, ?/? Stephen Kuhn ??: Look - especially for a newbie, reinstallation ain't nothing more than a lesson - doing repeated installations only makes you smarter about how you're installing it, how you're making use of your disk space for optimal performance, what packages and options you're choosing from the beginning...I wish I could count how many times I've reinstalled any distribution of linux - it's thousands, mate, thousands... Meanwhile, a consideration to make is that you've corrupted the file system by accident - and that's alright - but if you do an installation again, you can choose a file system like ReiserFS that can generally handle such accidents - use it for your / and your /home partition - you might be surprised at the results. After the problem I was not able to login in KDE, after many tries ...now I can . I think this is a progress. One of the things I 'd loved about winXP is that I never reinstalled them. Even upgraded them from win2k ( I did many times recovery console though). I was pretty advanced in windows. As advanced can be one in a windowz environment. :) I do not like to reinstall all the applications and drivers now... I think it is a minor problem I could manage it .. in time... even though I am pretty newbie in linux world. One thing that admired from the first time in the world of linux is that anything can be done in such minor issues... or at WORST everything can be tried!!! :) The only info I got from the above is the ReiserFS that I didn't know about it. Thank you for this. Is there a place on the internet to read about ReiserFS? http://www.namesys.com/ I'd tend to reckon that the system's corrupted, the /etc/passwd is probably corrupted - best reinstall. yes, but if there was a major problem in passwords handling there would be no pop up for root password in KDE eventually (some rare times it works!). The KDE is the only graphical GUI that gives me the error. The password handling is working fine in other GUIs. (IceWM , Gnome, WM). I want to state one time again that I am linux NEWBIE, with the above I don't try to be smart... I know that there are many things that I don't know ... I just want to figure out things through argument... Sorry for my english... Thanks for your post. -- Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it. -George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman (1903) Maxims for Revolutionists Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Logitech Marble Mouse
On Friday 25 July 2003 04:30 pm, Daniel wrote: I have a Logitech Marble Mouse and I did not see this hardware in the list of the Supported Hardware does anyone installed Mandrake 9.1 with this mouse. Thank you Try the generic wheel mouse worked for me;) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Logitech Marble Mouse
Thank you -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aron Smith Sent: 25 juillet 2003 21:52 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Logitech Marble Mouse On Friday 25 July 2003 04:30 pm, Daniel wrote: I have a Logitech Marble Mouse and I did not see this hardware in the list of the Supported Hardware does anyone installed Mandrake 9.1 with this mouse. Thank you Try the generic wheel mouse worked for me;) -- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.148 / Virus Database: 259.9.3 - Release Date: 2003-07-24 -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.148 / Virus Database: 259.9.3 - Release Date: 2003-07-24 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] klcc configure error
I have mandrake 9.1 system I tried for compiling klcc tar. ./configure --prefix=/usr/local --with-qt-dir=/usr/lib/qt3 --with-qt-includes=/usr/lib/qt3/include --with-qt-libraries=/usr/lib/qt3/lib checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (= Qt 3.0.3) (library qt-mt) not found. Please check your installation! For more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log. Make sure that you have compiled Qt with thread support! configure:19527: rm -rf SunWS_cache; g++ -o conftest -I/usr/lib/qt3/include -I/usr/X 11R6/include -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -D_REENTRANT -L/usr/lib/qt3/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib conftest.cc -lqt-mt -lpng -lz -lm -ljpeg -ldl -lXext -lX11 -lSM -lICE -lresolv - lpthread 15 In file included from /usr/include/c++/3.2.2/cstdlib:52, from /usr/include/c++/3.2.2/bits/stl_algobase.h:67, from /usr/include/c++/3.2.2/memory:54, from /usr/include/c++/3.2.2/string:48, from /usr/lib/qt3/include/qstring.h:46, from /usr/lib/qt3/include/qwindowdefs.h:44, from /usr/lib/qt3/include/qwidget.h:42, from /usr/lib/qt3/include/qdesktopwidget.h:40, from /usr/lib/qt3/include/qapplication.h:42, from conftest.cc:3: confdefs.h:5: previous declaration of `void exit(int)' with C++ linkage /usr/include/stdlib.h:610: conflicts with new declaration with C linkage /usr/include/stdlib.h:610: declaration of `void exit(int) throw ()' throws different exceptions confdefs.h:5: than previous declaration `void exit(int)' configure:19530: $? = 1 configure: failed program was: #include confdefs.h #include qglobal.h #include qapplication.h #include qcursor.h #include qstylefactory.h #include private/qucomextra_p.h from /usr/lib/qt3/include/qwindowdefs.h:44, from /usr/lib/qt3/include/qwidget.h:42, from /usr/lib/qt3/include/qdesktopwidget.h:40, from /usr/lib/qt3/include/qapplication.h:42, from conftest.cc:3: confdefs.h:5: previous declaration of `void exit(int)' with C++ linkage /usr/include/stdlib.h:610: conflicts with new declaration with C linkage /usr/include/stdlib.h:610: declaration of `void exit(int) throw ()' throws different exceptions confdefs.h:5: than previous declaration `void exit(int)' configure:19530: $? = 1 configure: failed program was: #include confdefs.h #include qglobal.h #include qapplication.h #include qcursor.h #include qstylefactory.h #include private/qucomextra_p.h #if ! (QT_VERSION = 303) #error 1 - --- configure: exit 1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] lib]# ls -l *qt-mt* -rw-r--r--1 root root 768 Feb 25 01:03 libqt-mt.prl lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 17 May 30 21:08 libqt-mt.so - libqt-mt.so.3.1.1* lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 17 May 30 21:08 libqt-mt.so.3 - libqt-mt.so.3.1.1* lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 17 May 30 21:08 libqt-mt.so.3.1 - libqt-mt.so.3.1.1* -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 6711248 Feb 25 01:05 libqt-mt.so.3.1.1* lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 17 Jul 25 14:48 lqt-mt.so - libqt-mt.so.3.1.1* lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 17 Jul 25 14:48 lqt-mt.so.3 - libqt-mt.so.3.1.1* lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 17 Jul 25 14:49 lqt-mt.so.3.1 - libqt-mt.so.3.1.1* This leads me out of wits. can anybody explain. -- L.V.Gandhi 203, Soundaryalahari Apartments, Lawsons Bay colony, Visakhapatnam, 530017 MECON, 5th Floor, RTC Complex, Visakhapatnam AP 530020 INDIA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] iptables quirk.
rules in rc.firewall-2.4 $IPTABLES -P INPUT ACCEPT $IPTABLES -F INPUT $IPTABLES -P OUTPUT ACCEPT $IPTABLES -F OUTPUT $IPTABLES -P FORWARD DROP $IPTABLES -F FORWARD $IPTABLES -t nat -F echoFWD: Allow all connections OUT and only existing and related ones IN $IPTABLES -A FORWARD -i $EXTIF -o $INTIF -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT $IPTABLES -A FORWARD -i $INTIF -o $EXTIF -j ACCEPT $IPTABLES -A FORWARD -j LOG #$IPTABLES -P FORWARD ACCEPT echoEnabling SNAT (MASQUERADE) functionality on $EXTIF $IPTABLES -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o $EXTIF -j MASQUERADE iptables-save shows as flollows. [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# iptables-save # Generated by iptables-save v1.2.7a on Fri Jul 25 11:38:54 2003 *filter :INPUT ACCEPT [2217:180139] :FORWARD DROP [0:0] :OUTPUT ACCEPT [2847:193028] -A FORWARD -i ppp0 -o eth0 -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT -A FORWARD -i eth0 -o ppp0 -j ACCEPT -A FORWARD -j LOG COMMIT # Completed on Fri Jul 25 11:38:54 2003 # Generated by iptables-save v1.2.7a on Fri Jul 25 11:38:54 2003 *nat :PREROUTING ACCEPT [22:3613] :POSTROUTING ACCEPT [796:29232] :OUTPUT ACCEPT [796:29232] -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE COMMIT # Completed on Fri Jul 25 11:38:54 2003 But iptables -L shows forward as below which indicates less secure. ie anywhere to anywhere Any ex[lanations? [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# iptables -L Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination Chain FORWARD (policy DROP) target prot opt source destination ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere state RELATED,ESTABLISHED ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere LOGall -- anywhere anywhere LOG level warning Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination -- L.V.Gandhi 203, Soundaryalahari Apartments, Lawsons Bay colony, Visakhapatnam, 530017 MECON, 5th Floor, RTC Complex, Visakhapatnam AP 530020 INDIA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] i'm looking for a very good WYSIWYG editor other thanMozilla composer
Warren Post wrote: Take a look at IBM WebSphere. It's not free, but it's just as good as Dreamweaver and costs a lot less. When you have the time, consider learning hand coding. It is not as hard as it seems, and hand coding is the only way you are going to get your sites exactly how you want them. I don't like the way it handles php source. It treats it like a comment. It's all one bright orange mess. You can turn the color off so that you have one big colorless mess. :-) -- Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it. -George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman (1903) Maxims for Revolutionists Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SBr Temp
On Friday 25 July 2003 01:06 am, magnet wrote: On Friday 25 Jul 2003 4:37 am, Todd Slater wrote: On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 21:51:51 -0500 Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I asked Dennis what this was off-list and hes not sure, so I'll throw this out to the rest. Below is my sensors output, what is SBr temp? Southbridge? http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=enlr=ie=UTF-8selm=Pine.HPX.4.43.020 40 40043300.25096-10%40wave Todd Todd is correct. It's for the South Bridge chip. http://www.linux.cz/stats/mrtg-rrd/temp.html That seems correct. From what I can gleem from my boards TM (its a 1stMainboard AZ11E) its comprised of a VIA VT8363 system controller for the North Bridge and a VIA 686B (Super South). So, from what I can figure this is the temp for this chipset. Thanks for all who responded. -- Regards Chris A 100% Microsoft free computer Registered Linux User 283774 http://counter.li.org 9:53pm up 34 days, 4:09, 6 users, load average: 0.19, 0.20, 0.14 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SBr Temp
On Friday 25 July 2003 09:56 pm, Chris wrote: On Friday 25 July 2003 01:06 am, magnet wrote: On Friday 25 Jul 2003 4:37 am, Todd Slater wrote: On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 21:51:51 -0500 Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I asked Dennis what this was off-list and hes not sure, so I'll throw this out to the rest. Below is my sensors output, what is SBr temp? Southbridge? http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=enlr=ie=UTF-8selm=Pine.HPX.4.43.0 20 40 40043300.25096-10%40wave Todd Todd is correct. It's for the South Bridge chip. http://www.linux.cz/stats/mrtg-rrd/temp.html That seems correct. From what I can gleem from my boards TM (its a 1stMainboard AZ11E) its comprised of a VIA VT8363 system controller for the North Bridge and a VIA 686B (Super South). So, from what I can figure this is the temp for this chipset. Thanks for all who responded. Can't speak for everyone but I think a lot of us learned a tidbit on that one, thanks for asking the question. I am now smarter than I was a day or two ago. : ) -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com