Re: [newbie] Use the Shift Key, Go to Jail
HaywireMac wrote: SunnComm Technologies, a developer of CD antipiracy technology, said Thursday that it will likely sue a Princeton student who early this week showed how to evade the company's copy protection by pushing a computer's Shift key. http://www.msnbc.com/news/978433.asp Sounds like SunnComm should be suing MS, not the Princeton student. Actually, I think its more like the shareholders should be suing or at least moving to oust the management of SunnComm for doing such a lousy job at copy-protection. Its just plain lazy and completely stupid. What's worse is that I read the previous article on that, and it talked about Macrovision having something similar that uses only Windows Media Format. When Microsoft collapses under its own weight, (which I see happening sooner or later if things continue going the way their headed) they'll go down with them. Then again maybe that's a good thing. Just my two cents worth. Tom Williams Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Waiting for X Server to shutdown - help?
On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:34:12 +0700 Fajar Priyanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is your graphics adapter? If it is S3 Trio, Mdk91's KDE31 has a known problem with it, you should upgrade qt3 and qt3-base. Its an ATi something. I forget offhand exactly what. I'm pretty sure its not an S3 Trio though. Wish it were that siple. After some more experimenting I've found out that its not really getting into KDE. I tried something that was suggested to me some time ago with another problem. That was to rename the .kde directory to something so that it would make a new one. Well, I did that, and it still didn't work and when I checked the directories, there was no .kde directory. I would imagine that if its getting as far as KDE that it would make a new directory and die there or work, but its not doing that. I've also tried deleting any sort of what appears to be a temporary file, tried even deleting the .Xauthority file. Still doesn't work. I tried comparing it to the setup that does work and I haven't found anything significant. Tom Williams Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Waiting for X Server to shutdown - help?
On 02 Oct 2003 07:21:56 -0400 ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: can you fix the word wrap? and next time, just my opinion, but instead of 'delete' maybe it might be wiser to move a file (rename it) to something with a number at the end, so instead of 'rm .Xauthority', try 'mv .Xauthority .Xauthority1 and you can rename it back if you need to? The word wrap thing is something that Sylpheed doesn't seem to handle that well, or perhaps I'm just not configuring something, I don't know. I didn't explain that right. I did say delete, but I was moving them. I could have just renamed them, but opted to move them instead. I'd move the .Xauthority file to my user /tmp directory. I also tried .ICEauthority as well, but neither helped. Tom Williams Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Waiting for X Server to shutdown - help?
On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 12:39:59 -0400 HaywireMac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Handles it fine: Configureation -- Common Prefs -- Compose On the compose I set the word wrap options. Was that what you was suggesting? Perhaps it will take care of it. Anyone got any suggestions on what is wrong with my X windows setup? Tom Williams Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] waiting for X server to shutdown
OK, here's the problem. I was running Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.5. I had it set up to use the trayicon. The problem was that it wasn't functioning properly. Instead of it showing up in the kicker it was showing up as a small icon on the desktop, yet there was a space for it on the kicker. After launching and shutting down Sylpheed a couple of times the space in the kicker was growing. There was now room for at least 3 icons. So I figured that if I shut down the X server and brought it back up everything would be right. Either that or just simply shut down the kicker and restart it, but I didn't like that idea so I opted for shutting down the X server. So I shut it down and then try to start it back up. I get Waiting for X server to shutdown. I kind of needed to get back into KDE (the WM I'm using) and I switched to root and launched it that way. After all, it would at least tell me where the problem was. It launched, it worked well, but I still had no clue as to what the problem w as. Its obvious that its something written to a file or something in my user space, but what? Anyway, I thought at one point I had it. I shutdown X server in root and tried my idea. Just some temporary files that I found. Something about .X0-lock. Anyway, tried my user launch again, still didn't work. So I tried to get back into KDE via root again. It too now says Waiting for X server to shutdown. What is going on here? I had to use linuxconf to create a new user and launch X server under that before I could actually use it. I'm afraid to shut down again for fear it'll do the same thing. Anyone got any ideas? Tom Williams Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Waiting for X Server to shutdown - help?
So I described what all was happening. I got a user setup that won't go into KDE and now I have root not going in as well. I'm running under and alternate user that I set up just for this. Oh a couple of facts I left out before, I'm running Mdk 9.1, whatever the version of X11 and KDE that comes with it. Also, after I couldn't get into KDE from the user login, I rebooted and tried again, didn't help. That was when I tried root and it worked once, but then not again. Can someone tell what is going on? Am I right is there some sort of temporary file that I need to kill in order to get it back up? I feel like I ought to know how to fix this, but its just beyond my fingertips, ya know? Tom Williams Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Waiting for X Server to shutdown - help?
On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 23:06:55 -0400 Thomas Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I described what all was happening. I got a user setup that won't go into KDE and now I have root not going in as well. I'm running under and alternate user that I set up just for this. Oh a couple of facts I left out before, I'm running Mdk 9.1, whatever the version of X11 and KDE that comes with it. Also, after I couldn't get into KDE from the user login, I rebooted and tried again, didn't help. That was when I tried root and it worked once, but then not again. Can someone tell what is going on? Am I right is there some sort of temporary file that I need to kill in order to get it back up? I feel like I ought to know how to fix this, but its just beyond my fingertips, ya know? Tom Williams One last thing I wanted to add. There are no errors that I can find. I could probably include the log file from /var/log but I didn't see anything wrong. Also, I get the screen going black and then flashing blue (the background color that I let it default to) and then back to black and then finally back to the console. Now I did have some error messages appearing having to do with a device that it couldn't find. That was a mouse that I'm no longer using and I fixed that by editing the XF86Config file. Coincidently, when I first started using the alternate user account when I'd enter X I'd get a dialog box saying it couldn't start the sound server, something about being unable to access /dev/dsp After correcting the XF86Config file to eliminate the mouse messages, the alternate user in X does have sound. I don't know how fixing a mouse problem could fix the sound, but hey at least that works! So what do I do to find the problem? Where do I start? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Tom Williams Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Great Article on Trusted Computing
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 20:00:33 -0400 HaywireMac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the reality? What, if anything, do those of us who support computer/Internet privacy have to fear from the group and Trusted Computing Platforms? Plenty. First of all, the companies that constitute the Trusted Computing Group include many of the heavyweights of the personal computer industry -- Microsoft, IBM, Hewlett-Packard, Sony, Nokia and Intel, among others -- all of which are interested in protecting their interests, not yours. Most important, they propose to do this by advocating legislation that would require every computer sold to have a Trusted Platform Module. I know this is OT, but I just had to throw in my two cents worth on this. I read the article, and I was skeptical at first. I found the TCG site and read just their description of it and it sounded like just what is needed. So I proceeded to download the specification. I started reading the specification and my first reaction was that someone was being paranoid about all of this. It still sounded good. Then I started getting into some of the details. Now some of this is subject to interpretation, but this is how I interpreted it. In order for an entity (which could be a user or a software package) to take advantage of the TPM, it must have authorization data. Where does this authorization data come from? Not from the owner, (the person who physically owns the machine) not from the installer, although it could I suppose, but from another trusted entity. This entity can be over a network. Which if I'm interpreting this correctly, (bear in mind, I may not be, after all this was mind-numbing 332 pages worth of details) means that the company that produced the software can remotely download the authorization data onto your computer in order for your software to work. Furthermore, there is a validity field in this authorization data. That field c an have a time associated with it, which can define when the authorization data is valid for. There is how it is done! Of course you realize what this really means? Should this get implemented, everyone here in the US will start going over the border to get their computers and/or only run Linux on it. grin I apologize to all of those who are not in the US for this, but I wouldn't doubt but what if this does happen here that sooner or later it will start happening elsewhere. Be aware! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mac os x on mandrake
On Wednesday 13 August 2003 07:15 am, Haywiremac wrote: there's a porject which emulates mac os x on linux. anything like vmware. i heard bout this project but i cant remeber its name... google couldnt find anyth. there's some experimental project to run OSX on x86, but it's not for public consumption, AFAIK. I don't have a page or anything, but coming from a Mac background, I can tell you that Apple has played with having an x86 port. It's referred to as the red box. When Apple was working on OS X to begin with they had 3 boxes. Bear in mind that I tend to get the colors backwards, but the 3 colors are yellow, blue and red. Yellow (I think) was the Mac OS 9 compatibility system. Blue was the real OS X and red was OS X on x86. I never heard any more about it after OS X was released, but it stemmed from the days of Next. Supposedly, Next could be compiled to run on a number of systems. OS X is based on Next. Also, you can still get the Darwin code, I think. and that can be compiled on x86. How much of OS X it actually gives you I can't say. Tom Williams Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Extracting sit.hqx archives?
On Wednesday 16 July 2003 12:35 pm, JoeHill wrote: Is there any OSS available that would do this? That's Mac and Stuffit and binhex. I would undo it for you, but my mac died sometime ago. Tom Williams Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] reading MP3s and CDDB searching
Is there any sort of tool that will take an MP3 and do a CDDB lookup? What I'm looking for has been done in another application that is available for windows called MusicMatch. I was hoping there was at least a tool like MP3Info that would read the tags and/or do a CDDB lookup. Tom Williams Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] reading MP3s and CDDB searching
On Monday 30 June 2003 08:18 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: GRIP does it, XMMS can do it (with the proper plugin) - there are heaps other MP3/Ogg players that will do basically the same thing... Yes, I have both GRIP and XMMS. I like them a lot. This is something just slightly different. Its reading the MP3 its self and getting tag information from the CDDB for that MP3. I'm not exactly sure how its done, but I would guess that it is reading the file name and doing a lookup on that. Perhaps there's some sort of internal serial number that's carried from the CD, but I don't think so. This program I mentioned on the Windows side does this, its called MusicMatch. Its a full-blown CD player/ripper and MP3 player. It has some nice features, but its another one of those that limits the features and keeps pointing out if you buy the pro version you get many more features. Plus it is a _windows_ app. I seriously doubt there is a linux equivalent. This was just something that my wife pointed out that her MusicMatch could do and I wanted to point out Linux will do that too, but perhaps not. We all the time have a sort of debate/argument as to which is better. Of course she keeps pointing out how she hasn't had as many problems with her windows as I've had with my Linux, yet at the same time she has to reboot several times a day because it gets loaded up with system resources, I'm still running on a boot up from several days ago, but that's another story for another post. :) Tom Williams Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] reading MP3s and CDDB searching
On Monday 30 June 2003 07:34 pm, Todd Slater wrote: Far as I know, cddb is just for cd's. Tha'ts what I thought too, but my wife has MusicMatch and she's demonstrated it taking an MP3 and getting CDDB information on it. I suspect its just reading the file name and doing a search on that. If it's an mp3, the tag needs to have been written to the mp3 itself. xmms will display this information, for example when you are viewing the playlist editor, click misc then info. Yup, I use it all the time. That's part of the problem. I was using an old version of winamp when I was still running windows all the time. That version would query the database and set the filename to artist and song title, it didn't set the tags. I've been going through and trying to update all of my MP3s. I would just re-rip the CDs but they have been put into storage of sorts and it would be a hassle to get them here just to re-rip them. There are command-line tools that will let you read the id3 tags (try mp3info?). Also, there's a big ol gui program that'll let you write/modify id3 tags for mp3's and ogg's, called easytag. I've been using MP3Info. Its very simple and for just setting the tags works well. Its just that my wife has been saying that she can do it all from MusicMatch and suggested there should be an equivalent in Linux. Anything that could even semi-automatically set tags would be sweet to say the least. Tom Williams Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] reading MP3s and CDDB searching
On Monday 30 June 2003 10:08 pm, Jason Greenwood wrote: Use RipperX, it will do what you want. =) It connects to the freedb. I found a version 2.5 and I had it up but it doesn't look like it will open an MP3 and allow me to update the tags. Perhaps a newer version will? Or perhaps you misunderstand what I'm looking for? Tom Williams Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Latest version of Opera/Mandrake?
On Thursday 26 June 2003 04:20 pm, rikona wrote: An older version of Opera had a problem if you use blocking to avoid ads, obnoxious sites, etc. It would wait to time out on each access, and this made it look very slow. I heard it was fixed in later versions, but don't know first-hand. This was 7.11. Its probably something I did. I don't know what offhand. I haven't gotten around to figuring it out. If anyone would like, if and when I do, I'll post an explanation as to what it was and how I fixed it. Tom Williams Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux passing the Mac on the Desktop?
On Wednesday 25 June 2003 12:53 am, LeaAnne Kolp wrote: After reading a Mac users post regarding Linux vs Mac on the desktop, I'm faced with countless questions. -- 1). I thought Linux had passed it already, but perhaps I'm confusing it with some other statistic. Please post a reference link. I'm not too sure on what metric you'd use to compare Linux vs. Mac on the desktop. Sales? Downloads? Registered Users? I don't really have a reference link. I had been reading ZDnet articles and saw things about more linux servers and things than ever before and merely presumed that they had already passed the Mac. 2). OSX is based on the mach kernal, a modular derivitive created by CMU and as such is not necessarily linux, but very close. Darwin uses a monolithic kernel based on FreeBSD 4.4 and the OSF/mk Mach 3, combining BSD's POSIX support with the fine-grained multithreading and real-time performance of Mach. ( ref: http://www.apple.com/macosx/technologies/darwin.html ) Well, I had originally read about the Mach kernel in a book on linux. In this book, it described the Mach kernel as being layered or modular. Hence, the reason for my description. However, I saw this as putting me to task to answer you. Here is a link I found that describes what I was talking about: http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mach_kernel I won't go into much detail since you can read it for yourself, but if you follow the links back to CMU you'll find that the Mach kernel is the basis for most of what you mentioned. You'll also find that the kernel is broken down into a microkernel and then small servers on top of that. Any time you have to start passing messages or making calls, depending on how you look at it, to servers that in turn must pass messages or calls onto other servers and the microkernel, it is inherently slower than a kernel where it just does it. Were Apple to be on the ball enough (and there's presedence to prove otherwise) they could very well capitalize on the linux movement by making their desktop envrionment run on linux installations and dropping the mach kernel. Apple is a hardware company. Yes, and they are software as well. One of the things they don't talk about much is that they also have a red box version of OSX. It is Mac OS for Intel chips. I read several articles a year or so ago on ZDnet where analysts were saying that Apple should get out of the hardware business and focus on software. I'm not sure that's a good idea, but were they to move the OS to run on Intel and run on linux, they could conceivably do just that. Even just release the Intel version would help accomplish that. but it will never match a straight kernel. I assume you mean Monolithic kernel like linux uses when you say 'straight kernel.' The way I understand it, the Monolithic kernel is an all-in-one controlling kernel and the Mac kernel breaks every system function into bits called servers. Yes, I was fumbling for words a bit when I wrote that. I did mean monolithic. Yes, a monolithic kernel is an all in one kernel. Whereas, the Mach kernel is supposed to be a layered or a server based kernel which consists of a microkernel and then layers or servers on top of that. Can someone explain in more detail how Apple has accomplished both?? I'm not sure I understand what you mean by how Apple accomplishes both. 3).Their niche seems to be graphics as it always has been. How about Music production? Or the Biotech industry? There are plenty of others... Yes, there's music production, Biotech is iffy at best. I was working for a company that made a DNA analysis application that was originally only for the mac. They too had gone to a Windows version and were actually looking at phasing out their Mac version because more and more biotech companies were running windows. Even the companies that make machines that read DNA were hooking them to macs and have switched to using windows. All, I'm saying is that Steve Jobs has said before that Apple would be in a niche market rather than trying to compete with MS. In fact, they sort of have to because MS invested some money in Apple a couple of years ago. They said at the time it was with no strings attached, but is that really true? I doubt it. Until Adobe makes a version of photoshop to run under linux, there will be a need to run Mac. I don't think Adobe's software availability solely directs Apple's future. I purchased an Apple because I wanted something that would work right out of the box. And continue to work every time I use it. Time is money and for every hour I spend fiddling with Linux when I should be working is potential money being taken out of my pocket. Agreed, but again, Apple is staying in a niche market and while Photoshop wouldn't make or break Apple, were Adobe to say they will no longer produce software for the mac, it would seriously affect Apple. In fact, when
Re: [newbie] Linux passing the Mac on the Desktop?
On Tuesday 24 June 2003 05:51 am, JoeHill wrote: http://slate.msn.com/id/2084727/ -- + Joe Hill + Registered Linux user #282046 + Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net + ICQ# 279518458 + Do what thou wilt, this shall be the + whole of the law. + Quote of the day from Slashdot: + God forbid the FBI go after dangerous criminals ... + I feel much safer with pot smokers and warez + kiddies behind bars. Being a former Mac person myself. I have several thoughts on this. 1). I thought Linux had passed it already, but perhaps I'm confusing it with some other statistic. 2). OSX is based on the mach kernal, a modular derivitive created by CMU and as such is not necessarily linux, but very close. Were Apple to be on the ball enough (and there's presedence to prove otherwise) they could very well capitalize on the linux movement by making their desktop envrionment run on linux installations and dropping the mach kernel. After all, even they admit that its a little slower running applications and for good reason. The mach kernel while very elegant has one flaw which makes it slower. That flaw is the very thing that makes it good, its modularity. It can be tweaked and tuned to the point where its close, but it will never match a straight kernel. 3). Apple never did intend to supplant MS. In fact, when Steve Jobs took over he even stated that their intention was NOT to go after MS. Rather it was to find their own niche. Their niche seems to be graphics as it always has been. Until Adobe makes a version of photoshop to run under linux, there will be a need to run Mac. That and the video work that can be done quite easily on the Mac. Yes, I know there are programs that run under windows, but I haven't as of yet seen anything comparable on the Linux side. I'm sure someone will immediately point out just such a program, but until it gets to be well known, the Mac will still be the platform of choice for video and graphics. 4). I saw the writing on the wall as it were over a year ago. That's part of the reason for jumping ship on Mac and trying my hand at Linux. Don't get me wrong, I love the Mac still. If I could afford it I'd be one of those buying a brand new G5. In fact, these days if I could afford it, I'd buy a G5 and then make it dual boot with ML 9.1 PPC the other OS on it. That's just my view as a Mac person. Tom Williams Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux passing the Mac on the Desktop?
On Tuesday 24 June 2003 09:18 pm, Phares wrote: Except for the fact that the ML 9.1 install disk is flawed and wont install on the newer powermacs, I hear ya! I was not aware of this. Is there any plans to fix this? I don't expect to be getting a new Mac any time soon, but it would be nice to know that when I do I can dual boot. Tom Williams Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Latest version of Opera/Mandrake?
On Tuesday 24 June 2003 11:59 pm, rikona wrote: I seem to remember someone mentioning Opera version 7+, but the version in the Club is 6.12. Is there a newer rpm version available? Yes, actually there's a version 7.11 available at http://www.opera.com. I can't really recommend it. I tried it and it worked great at first and then for some reason it has slowed way down to the point its a pain to use. I'm not sure what the cause is, so the best I can say is that it looks good, but actual mileage may vary. Tom Williams Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Sun let's the cat out of the bag
On Saturday 21 June 2003 06:49 pm, JoeHill wrote: It's official, Sun is right in there with MS and SCO. They even have an ad campaign telling nervous IBM customers that they can switch to Solaris because SCO is not after Sun. Well, I read the whole article, and while I'm not defending Sun, I don't get the same thing out of it you do. I see where Sun is capitalizing on the current situation. Even they see where it probably won't net them a whole lot, but its worth a shot. While I'm not thrilled with the idea that they are taking advantage of a legal dispute to make more sales, I see this as just that., an opportunity to take advantage of the legal dispute. After all, IBM is their biggest competitor. If they can pull one over on them, then so much the better. The article even says that they bought their license several years ago. While, I tend to not believe any company, it has to be taken on its face value until proven otherwise. My 2 cents worth. Tom Williams Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] It works!!!! And then.........
On Friday 20 June 2003 06:18 am, Derek Jennings wrote: What you needed was the umask option set. In the file /etc/fstab set up the line for the windows partition something like this /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows vfat iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 The command 'mount -a' will remount your partitions The partition will be automatically mounted at boot. You do not need users to have mount permission for it. All you need is permission for users to read/write to it. That is what the umask does. That's great, that worked good. thanx. derek BTW: Could you remove the Reply To: field in your KMail settings please? That is there for when you want to receive repiles to your mails on a different account to the one you send from. If you have it set replies people send to your mailing list posts go straight to you and not the list. Well, I didn't see a specific way to turn it off, but I did have my email address in the field and I've taken it out. That should take care of it. If it doesn't, then have to dig into it and figure out what to change. Sorry about that. Tom Williams Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Told ya, don't trust IBM
On Friday 20 June 2003 09:12 am, JoeHill wrote: http://news.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,t269-s2136285,00.html Quote: A UK IT industry body backed by Microsoft, IBM, Intel, BAE Systems and other high-tech heavyweights has urged the UK government to show restraint in its use of open-source software, particularly software covered by the General Public License. OK, I read this article and I don't really get the same thing out of it. Such as what this part says: Intellect, which was formed from the merger of the Computer Services and Software Association and the Federation of the Electronics Industry last year, and represents about 1,000 UK IT companies. IBM may only be in it for what prestige it buys them, obviously the group does not represent IBM's views. Most likely it is the majority view, which may or may not be right. Anyway, furthermore, I think what they're saying is legitimate. The government wants to require the GPL in its software contracts, and this group is saying that for government contracts this may be a bad idea. They didn't state it directly, at least not that I saw, but it would stand to reason that you don't want critical software to be publicly available so that would-be terrorists or crackers can read the source code and find a way in. While I applaud the UK attempting to stand behind the GPL like that, I think this group in this instance may be right. and apparently we can't trust Sun either. They're in on this whole SCO thing: http://www.pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=6976 Seems SCO's filing annual filing with the SEC exposed some interesting info, to whit: We initiated the SCOsource effort to review the status of these licensing and sublicensing agreements and to identify others in the industry that may be currently using our intellectual property without obtaining the necessary licenses. *[this is where it gets interesting]* This effort resulted in the execution of two license agreements during the April 30, 2003 quarter. The first of these licenses was with a long-time licensee of the UNIX source code which is a major participant in the UNIX industry and was aclean-up license to cover items that were outside the scope of the initial license. The second license was to Microsoft Corporation(Microsoft), and covers Microsoft's UNIX compatibility products, subject to certain specified limitations. These license agreements will be typical of those we expect to enter into with developers, manufacturers, and distributors of operating systems in that they are non-exclusive, perpetual, royalty-free, paid up licenses to utilize the UNIX source code, including the right to sublicense that code. OK, I don't get this one. I read the article and I see your quote here, and nowhere does it mention Sun's involvement. The only Sun involvement I see is in the paragraph above this one where it mentions Sun's Solaris. Now that I look at it again, I see where you're going license with a long-time licensee, but you cannot infer that that is Sun without some sort of proof. Besides, even if it is, it may be for good reason on Sun's part. But this is my 2 cents worth. Tom Williams Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Told ya, don't trust IBM
On Friday 20 June 2003 06:01 pm, JoeHill wrote: This theory has been thoroughly debunked. Closed source software is just as vulnerable, if not more so (just see MS as one particularly egregious example). Not only that, but it is quite clear that the response time for closing vulnerablilities in the Open Source side is a fraction of that for proprietary. Open Source coders are also more likely to discover *potential* vulnerabilities *before* they make it to production because of the far superior oversight. I agree to a point. Yes, its not as vulnerable and it is probably safe and its been gone over well before its been put into production, but holes do happen even with the best of programmers and the best of software. I'm not saying that Closed source is better, only that why give a group or a nut, as the case may be, a leg up by showing them how it all works. At least with closed software they have to discover that on their own. All I'm saying is that I happen to agree that there are instances where perhaps the GPL is not necessary. As someone else has already pointed out, the GPL is perhaps overly complicated and that in and of its self could perhaps be enough to suggest the government steer clear of it. How do you go about suing the government over their violation of the GPL? Yes, it can be done, but in some instances at what cost? Tom Williams Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Told ya, don't trust IBM
On Friday 20 June 2003 08:36 pm, JoeHill wrote: Of course the GPL is not the be all and end all. Nothing is. But it is a model for a new way of looking at software as a public resource rather than a commodity to be bought and sold. If information is allowed to become a commodity in the truest sense of the word, then the internet and information technology will become nothing more than better TV sets with more invasive marketing and egregious manipulation. Agreed! The other real concern is that I have a problem with a government, any government delving into something like the GPL. I've seen too many times where in this country (US) the best laid plans of lawmakers goes wildly wrong and what was once a good idea turns into a horrible monster of a mistake. This is most likely not the case with this instance, but my concerns are still there. I too don't want to see information become a commodity, but I get concerned that any time the government gets involved that that's exactly what they turn it into. A scenario I can see (and again, I don't expect this in this case, its just a, perhaps paranoid, scenario.) is the government uses software under the GPL and then decides that it can't, for whatever reason it sees fit, allow the source to be released and subsequently deems it illegal and things get decidedly worse from that point. Granted, a very bad case, but considering what I've seen various governments do already, I wouldn't put it past anyone of a number of governments, including the US from doing something like that. OK, so I'm a little paranoid, but with good reason, I think! :) Tom Williams Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] It works!!!! And then.........
So, I got the DSL set up. I also spent the money to get a router. I decided I didn't want to have to have my wife's computer depend on my machine being up and running all the time. While I was waiting for the router to arrive I got online and downloaded the iso's for 9.1. I didnt' have any problem whatsoever burning them. I've installed 9.1, its great, I like it so far. Only one little minor thing. I think I've seen someone else ask this on here, but I don't remember what the solution was. I still have a windows partition, its actually a whole separate drive. I can see that the windows partition is there, but I can't access it unless I'm in su mode. Now, I thought that I had the answer, I went into linuxconf and pulled up filesystems and found the windows partition. I set something marked allow users to mount. Set it, updated it. And then tried to get the file manager to go there. It locked up so hard I had to reboot. The net result of that was that it screwed up my X-windows system and I ended up reinstalling one more time because I couldn't remember that fix either. It was thing about Xauthority. So was I on the right track? I suspect that I needed to unmount it, set that then mount it again. Is that right or is there another way? Tom Williams Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Its DSL! Now what?
OK, so remember I was asking about DSL and setting it up on the hub and so forth? Well, part of this is I think the oddities of 8.1 so I'm going to write off some of it as merely that. I got the modem and it came with a red crossover cable. I had an extra uncrossed ethernet cable that I hooked it into. On the network there is now the modem, my linux machine and a PC running (unfortunately) windows. Here comes one of those oddities that I write off as 8.1. I turned on the modem and got onto the PC and lo and behold by using a specific ip I could then contact the modem. However, I couldn't see it from the linux machine. I tried reinstalling everything basically. I really didn't want to do that, but after trying to reset the connection using MCC it wasn't getting me anywhere. After reinstalling everything I still couldn't see the modem. So I call sprint tech support. They talk me into hooking up the red crossover cable and after some fiddling around with the configuration and some other things I got my linux machine to see the modem. So to try and keep this from getting out of hand and turning into a manifesto, they got me configured going straight to the modem. I'm now online. Sprint tells me that I either need a router or a second NIC in order to get the other computer to use the DSL. Is this true? I read some of the tutorials but I'm a little confused as they start talking about PPPoE but the modem does all of that for me. What I want to know is now that I can see the modem, if I turn around and hook it back to the hub can I still see it and then turn on the connection sharing? Or are they right and I need either a router or second NIC? My wife is the one using the PC with windows and she has things she needs to do online so if someone can give me a definitive answer ASAP, I'd greatly appreciate it. Tom Williams Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Its DSL! Now what?
On Monday 16 June 2003 19:42, you wrote: You don't need a router, but a second NIC in your linux box would allow you to create the best setup. This would go something like: Windows machine connects to your first NIC either via the hub or via the crossover cable. As you have a hub, might as well toss the crossover cable and connect via the hub. So you now have two connections to your hub: the W$ box and let's assume eth0 on your linux box. Set eth0 on your linux machine to 192.168.0.1 subnet 255.255.255.0 and set the address on your wife's machine to 192.168.0.2 same subnet. Set the gateway on the W$ machine to 192.168.0.1 and DNS addresses to your provider's addresses. Now the W$ box and linux can ping each other. Don't go further until they can. Now connect your second NIC to the cable modem and set it up in the same way as is working for you right now. You should now have internet from linux, but not yet from Windows. Download gShield from http://muse.linuxmafia.org/gshield.html This is one of the REALLY easy to use firewall scripts. Edit the conf file and read all the very helpful comments, but all you need to set is that NAT is switched on. You'll also need to enter your network address in NATS, but that is all very well explained in the file. Install the directory under /etc/firewall as instructed and run it. Now the W$ machine has internet access with your linux machine as a very effective firewall. Post again if you have trouble with gShield and I can send you a pre-configured file. So then there's no way to do it with one card? Hmm, I was hoping it was possible. After all, I could see the modem on the hub from her machine. I suspect that if I connect the modem to the hub again that I could now see it with my machine. I just couldn't before because I had configuration problems probably due to running 8.1 (which some on here have pointed out is a little on the flaky side). Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Its DSL! Now what?
On Monday 16 June 2003 21:25, you wrote: It sounds like they are trying to make networking as difficult as possible by making it necessary to use a crossover cable to connect to the modem. I don't believe that going into the hub would work for you because of the crossover cable issue. Well, they supplied a crossover cable, but I had an extra regular cable and I tried hooking it to the hub with that and that was when my wife's machine could see it. So I thought that perhaps I could just switch back to that. The cheapest and quickest way to get your wife online would be to install a second network card and enable Internet Connection Sharing using the Mandrake Control Center. I think you would need a second crossover cable to get from the second NIC in the Mandrake box to your wife's Windows box. Well, the hub should work, I don't think I need a second crossover cable. Its been working for a long time, I was using it to network PPP connections. Granted nott the best solution but then where we were for a while there was no DSL access at all. Its only now that we have it, and ironically we're out in the boonies whereas we were in the midst of a fairly good size city and we couldn't get DSL or cable. Anyway, that's neither here nor there. The point is that I don't think I need a crossover because the hub does work between our two computers. Tom Williams Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] DSL?
OK, so here's the deal. Come Monday I will be getting DSL from sprint installed. When I mentioned running linux it didn't seem to be a problem for them. I'm still running 8.1 and will be until after I get the DSL up and working. I want to continue the connection sharing that I've been running with the PPP setup. I believe I can still do this with the DSL. I have a mini-hub. I have a bunch of questions: 1). Do I connect the DSL modem to the hub and then direct my machine to communicate with the IP configuration they give me? 2). Assuming that is the case (Yeah, I know all about _assuming_) will the current configuration of connection sharing continue to work with the DSL? In other words, is all I have to do is reconfigure my internet connection to use the DSL and the other machine on my mini-lan will still see it using the current connection sharing configuration? 3). Provided this all works as I think it will the next step is to download the 9.1 images. Are there any gotchas I should be worried about? 4). Will 9.1 also do the connection sharing like 8.1 does? Here's my real concern, I don't want to be spending two or three days trying to get everything squared away and working. I want to be able to know all the hazards and gotchas upfront so that it will be a relatively painless switch over. Can this be done? Bear in mind that while I am a programmer that was for macs, on linux I'm somewhere between novice and intermediate. Tom Williams Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HELP!
On 04 Jun 2003 15:01:19 +1000 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about renaming the /usr/bin/klipper binary to something else, then doing a reboot to see if that resolves the issue with the Klipboard? I haven't tried it yet, but I would imagine that would at least get me past it taking up so much processor time and eating up disk space. It still wouldn't get me good cut paste capability, but at least its a start. I'll try it at some point and let you know. Tom Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] unknown bridge resource?
On Mon, 02 Jun 2003 21:48:56 -0600 FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if you live in canada i'll send you my discs by mail. I have no use for them as I have 3 copies of 8.2 IIRC. Sorry, I live in the US. Thanks for the offer though. Tom Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HELP!
On 03 Jun 2003 13:55:07 +1000 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not good, Tom. Have you checked to see if there are any core files layin'round? Cuz Im' starting to wonder if there's a mucked up denpendency somewhere - either QT or KDE lib wise... Its possible I suppose. I haven't really looked for anything other than a possible clipboard file. Where would these be? (unless you're talking about things in /bin and/or /usr/bin) After you mentioned this I went looking for QT because I don't remember updating that. I updated kernel, and everything KDE and that ended up including arts and libarts (I think) but I don't remember any QT. So I just looked and there is no QT listed in my list of things that can be updated. Would that have something to do with it? Tom Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] HELP!
I apologize for the scream, but I have a serious problem. I ran updates on all of the KDE stuff. Everything seemed to be fine until after I rebooted once. Now, according to Gkrellm the cpu usage is up to 99% and the number of users is 0. To make matters worse slowly as it sits here something is eating the diskspace, I'm not sure what. I thought perhaps that it was .xsession-err because it was a large size, but when I deleted it the diskspace still kept going away and the file didn't return. What is going on? Why is it that I can't seem to be do the updates without something going wrong? Tom Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HELP!
On Sat, 31 May 2003 14:27:12 -0400 Thomas Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I apologize for the scream, but I have a serious problem. I ran updates on all of the KDE stuff. Everything seemed to be fine until after I rebooted once. Now, according to Gkrellm the cpu usage is up to 99% and the number of users is 0. To make matters worse slowly as it sits here something is eating the diskspace, I'm not sure what. I thought perhaps that it was .xsession-err because it was a large size, but when I deleted it the diskspace still kept going away and the file didn't return. What is going on? Why is it that I can't seem to be do the updates without something going wrong? Tom Some things to add on about this, it appears that it really is the .xsession-errors as when I open it I see that it keeps getting bigger and bigger. I suspect that perhaps why it doesn't seem to help by deleting it is that I'm not really deleting it but that's just a guess. Anyway, here's the problem it keeps saying over and over: QMenuData::removeItem: Index -1 out of range So how do I fix this? I can't really run an xsession for long like this. In the matter of about 20 minutes it fills up the entire /home partition, all 5.6 gigs worth. Yeah, I know I should get a newer machine and larger hd and MDK 9.1 but I really don't have the money for it right now. Please someone tell me how to fix this. Its gotten way beyond annoying now. Every time I try to update it does something like this. Tom Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HELP!
On 01 Jun 2003 07:54:28 +1000 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First, I would suggest going into runlevel 3 - a console login: edit your /etc/inittab and where you find: id:5:initdefault: -change to- id:3:initdefault: ...and reboot. This will still be in full multi-user mode, but without the graphical login. You can check disk space with: df -h Now that you're logged in, you can fire up XWindows with: startx ...see if the errors are still coming up or if your disk space is disappearing... well, I used MCC to change the runlevel (I have that back now!) rebooted checked the space and after deleting the file .xsession-errors it goes to 9% used. I startx and sit there with diskfree and watch it count down the disk space. I look at .xsession-errors and its slowly getting bigger. The problem seems to be the error message that keeps getting repeated in that file, QMenuData::removeItem Index -1 out of range. A further oddity to all of this is that my themes are gone. And I can't seem to re-add them. When I select a theme I get Theme does not contain a .themerc nor .theme file. Yet, I had rpmdrake install copies of these themes off of the cd's and there are folders for them. When I attempt to add them back in I get to the file dialog and I go to the folder where they are and it doesn't show a .themerc file even though in the filemanager I see one. This just keeps getting weirder and weirder. If I'm having this much trouble just revving kde then how does anyone update their whole system? I can only run KDE for short periods of time until the disk gets full. Tom Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HELP!
On Sat, 31 May 2003 18:21:27 -0400 Thomas Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 01 Jun 2003 07:54:28 +1000 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First, I would suggest going into runlevel 3 - a console login: edit your /etc/inittab and where you find: id:5:initdefault: -change to- id:3:initdefault: ...and reboot. This will still be in full multi-user mode, but without the graphical login. You can check disk space with: df -h Now that you're logged in, you can fire up XWindows with: startx ...see if the errors are still coming up or if your disk space is disappearing... well, I used MCC to change the runlevel (I have that back now!) rebooted checked the space and after deleting the file .xsession-errors it goes to 9% used. I startx and sit there with diskfree and watch it count down the disk space. I look at .xsession-errors and its slowly getting bigger. The problem seems to be the error message that keeps getting repeated in that file, QMenuData::removeItem Index -1 out of range. A further oddity to all of this is that my themes are gone. And I can't seem to re-add them. When I select a theme I get Theme does not contain a .themerc nor .theme file. Yet, I had rpmdrake install copies of these themes off of the cd's and there are folders for them. When I attempt to add them back in I get to the file dialog and I go to the folder where they are and it doesn't show a .themerc file even though in the filemanager I see one. This just keeps getting weirder and weirder. If I'm having this much trouble just revving kde then how does anyone update their whole system? I can only run KDE for short periods of time until the disk gets full. Tom Aha! The light bulb came on and I figured out how to track down this problem. After looking at the process management app I discovered that initializing klipper is the problem. It is using up to 93% of the processor and while I can't be 100% certain, I believe it is the one outputting those messages to .xsession-errors. So now, the next question is, what is wrong with it and how do I fix it? Tom Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] aol, html and related issues
On Sun, 25 May 2003 12:24:06 -0700 eric huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: pity poor aol users who; can not send text/plain? snip Hmmm... I personally hate AOL, but there are many reasons one might use AOL: 1. The rest of the family does, and they're not in charge. 2. Travel alot and need to dialup: with AOL you can dialup to a local number almost anywhere. 3. Don't want to hastle with changing your email address I can't speak to the first one, but for 2 and 3 I recommend earthlink. I've had it for about 3 years now and have moved twice with it and still maintained a local dialup number for it. Tom Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] unknown bridge resource?
On Tue, 27 May 2003 21:40:48 -0400 Thomas Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm running 8.1 and I updated the kernel. Before I updated it I was getting one error message every time I boot up: Unknown bridge resource 2: assuming transparent. After updating I'm still gettting that plus a bunch of other messages. So does anyone have an explanation for this? The hardware I'm running is a little old but I don't think its that old. I'm a little concerned because I keep having varying problems with my system. For instance I'm running KDE and I use xmms. Every now and then xmms will decide that it can't play because it can't get a hold of the output plugin or something, (I haven't seen it for a short while and I forget what exactly it said) and I can't get it to start playing until I change the sound server setting in the control center. Generally ALSA works but when I do that I lose all of my desktop sounds. I doubt that this is directly connected to the bridge resource problem but I suspect that there is a correlation somewhere. It seems like every time I reinstall (which I've had to do several times unfortunately) there is a different and unexplanable problem. Being a programmer I'm not one to just let problems be, I must track it down and fix it! Any help greatly appreciated. Tom Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] unknown bridge resource?
I'm running 8.1 and I updated the kernel. Before I updated it I was getting one error message every time I boot up: Unknown bridge resource 2: assuming transparent. After updating I'm still gettting that plus a bunch of other messages. Here's the error log file in its entirety: May 25 00:36:53 localhost kernel: Unknown bridge resource 2: assuming transparent May 25 19:53:38 localhost kernel: Unknown bridge resource 2: assuming transparent May 26 00:37:38 localhost kernel: Unknown bridge resource 2: assuming transparent May 26 16:13:21 localhost kernel: Unknown bridge resource 2: assuming transparent May 26 23:31:57 localhost kernel: Unknown bridge resource 2: assuming transparent May 26 23:31:58 localhost kernel: devfs_mk_dir(scsi): using old entry in dir: c12765c0 May 26 23:31:58 localhost kernel: devfs_mk_dir(host0/bus0/target0/lun0): using old entry in dir: c13f5a60 target0 May 26 23:31:58 localhost kernel: devfs_register(cd): could not append to parent, err: -17 May 26 23:32:04 localhost kernel: devfs_mk_dir(printers): using old entry in dir: c12765c0 May 26 23:32:04 localhost kernel: devfs_register(0): could not append to parent, err: -17 May 26 23:32:07 localhost kernel: devfs_mk_dir(sound): using old entry in dir: c12765c0 May 26 23:36:24 localhost kernel: Unknown bridge resource 2: assuming transparent May 26 23:36:24 localhost kernel: devfs_mk_dir(scsi): using old entry in dir: c12765c0 May 26 23:36:24 localhost kernel: devfs_mk_dir(host0/bus0/target0/lun0): using old entry in dir: c13f59e0 target0 May 26 23:36:31 localhost kernel: devfs_mk_dir(printers): using old entry in dir: c12765c0 May 26 23:36:31 localhost kernel: devfs_register(0): could not append to parent, err: -17 May 26 23:36:34 localhost kernel: devfs_mk_dir(sound): using old entry in dir: c12765c0 May 27 16:44:07 localhost kernel: Unknown bridge resource 2: assuming transparent May 27 16:44:07 localhost kernel: devfs_mk_dir(scsi): using old entry in dir: c12765c0 May 27 16:44:07 localhost kernel: devfs_mk_dir(host0/bus0/target0/lun0): using old entry in dir: c13f59e0 target0 May 27 16:44:14 localhost kernel: devfs_mk_dir(printers): using old entry in dir: c12765c0 May 27 16:44:14 localhost kernel: devfs_register(0): could not append to parent, err: -17 May 27 16:44:17 localhost kernel: devfs_mk_dir(sound): using old entry in dir: c12765c0 So like what's going on here? What is a Unknown bridge resource and how do I fix it? And what's all the other stuff its complaining about? Tom Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
