Re: [newbie] Odd Internet problem...

2004-09-26 Per discussione Richard Urwin
On Sunday 26 Sep 2004 1:52 am, Erylon Hines wrote:
 On Saturday 25 September 2004 03:37 pm, Richard Urwin wrote:
 | I think Which was told off and had to publish a retraction not so
 | long ago for publicly giving that bit of advice.
 |
 | Some things to bear in mind:
 | 1. If there's an earth fault the live wire is connected to you.
 | 2. The switch is in the live wire. If, like I did, you have an
 | extension cable with the live and neutral swapped, then the live
 | parts are still live. It may still be a problem with a properly
 | wired connection if your neutral is at a different potential to
 | your earth. OK, not such a problem with a PC because the PSU is
 | enclosed.

 This in itself is a code violation.  Why would anyone swap the hot
 and neutral?

In my case it was an honest mistake when building an extension cable, 
and I told my father off for it.

 Anyone that would do this shouldn't be doing anything electrical at
 all (no offense meant, but everyone should  test their equipment
 before they use it--your life depends on it).

There's a lot of people who's last words were what damn fool did that?

 And  remember, Never--Ever--switch a neutral.

Unless, of course, you also switch the live.

 The neutral and ground go to the very same place.

Usually yes. In the UK it's possible that they don't. Earth may go to an 
earth spike closer to you than the one the neutral goes to. That's only 
likely in a rural location or a big site.

 | 3. Anti-static straps have 1MegOhm resistors in them. Without such
 | they are considered serious health and safety violations. Since
 | every piece of anti-static equipment has that, the actual
 | resistance to earth of professional gear is usually several meg
 | ohms.

 For the anti-static devices, power supplies, etc.--yes.  Electrical
 codes (at least in the U.S.) require that the case be bonded directly
 to ground.

That doesn't help if there is a wiring fault, either accidental or 
man-made. The case is bonded directly to (what should be) earth; the 
repair-man should not be. A few megohms keeps him safe from bad wiring 
or grabbing the wrong wire, but conducts static away safely.

 In such a case, an external jumper from a known good ground would
 need to be applied to the metal frame of the case when the unit is
 unplugged. Otherwise, the box is floating with potential for static
 discharge, unless the repairman is floating also.  This probably
 won't be the way it is outside of the lab.

I'd say it was only likely outside the lab. I do my work on the 
dining-room table with the PC on a blanket and me with rubber-soled 
shoes and carpet. Great way to pick up static, but no earth connection 
except for the cable.

The best way would be a mains plug with only the earth wired, leading to 
a junction box. Every wire out of the junction box has its own megohm 
resistor at both ends. One goes to the case, another to the man. It 
would cost pennies to build.

This is a public forum; you and I know what we're doing, and when we can 
bend the rules safely enough. Most of the time with PC work a direct 
wire is safe enough, but I'd be willing to bet that you wouldn't use a 
direct wire if you were replacing the PSU fan for instance.

Safe enough is not safe. With a world full of people, million to one 
chances come up nine times out of ten.

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Re: [newbie] Odd Internet problem...

2004-09-26 Per discussione Sean Pritchard
On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 23:37:13 +0100, Richard Urwin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Saturday 25 Sep 2004 4:55 pm, Erylon Hines wrote:
  On Saturday 25 September 2004 07:33 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
  | But for all the *newbies* here reading this, statically wounded
  | circuits can show weird symptoms months after installation.
  | Sometimes weird stuff like what Ron is seeing.  That includes
  | (especially) motherboards.  It's best to have a grounded static
  | wrist band on when you are inside your computer and before you
  | remove the static packaging from any new component.  (static
  | packaging isn't there because it's pretty.)  If you always do this,
  | you can be sure that you've kept your equipment in mint condition.
  |
  | LX
 
  A note on grounding.  Most times when I see instructions for this it
  says something like, Unplug your computer.
 
  DO NOT UNPLUG YOUR COMPUTER.  If you do, you will remove the machine
  from the system ground and your box will be floating.  Any time
  equipment is floating, there is a chance that it's potential will be
  different from ground potential.  Turn it off, but leave it plugged
  in and the case will be bonded. If you are not on a workbench with a
  known good bond to ground, attach yourself to the metal part of the
  case, and you are good to go.
 
 I think Which was told off and had to publish a retraction not so long
 ago for publicly giving that bit of advice.
 
 Some things to bear in mind:
 1. If there's an earth fault the live wire is connected to you.
 2. The switch is in the live wire. If, like I did, you have an extension
 cable with the live and neutral swapped, then the live parts are still
 live. It may still be a problem with a properly wired connection if
 your neutral is at a different potential to your earth. OK, not such a
 problem with a PC because the PSU is enclosed.
 3. Anti-static straps have 1MegOhm resistors in them. Without such they
 are considered serious health and safety violations. Since every piece
 of anti-static equipment has that, the actual resistance to earth of
 professional gear is usually several meg ohms.
 
 Personally, If I have my wrist strap with me I leave the box plugged in
 and use it. If I don't then I still leave it plugged in, but just touch
 the case frequently to keep myself at the same potential. I think very
 long and hard before I decide to connect myself to the case with a
 piece of wire.
 
 Another word of warning: some PSUs do not have an off switch. The button
 on the front of an ATX case leaves power to some parts of the
 motherboard. If there isn't a rocker switch on the PSU, you can not
 leave it plugged in without having an external switch somewhere.

The best external switch, for boxes without an external (rear) switch,
is using a good quality powerbar that has a switch - not just a
fuse

yikes cross wiring is one thing, but stay away from carpets
altogether.  Of all things to happen a number of years ago (1994 or 95
I think) was I killed a keyboard as I stepped away from my grounded
box, walked across the carpeted room, picked up the keyboard (zap) and
I couldn't get the box to boot.  Puzzled for several days, I had to
bring it in to a shop, twice for them to tell me the box was perfect. 
Lo and behold I wasn't bringing in the peripherals.   I stuck in a
floppy and OS2-warp disk, powered up, only for the install program to
tell me I had keyboard errors - buffer overflow.

I didn't even know I zapped the KB but walking about 16 feet on
hair-raising carpet must have overloaded it, and yet I was so careful
with installing the new drive.

Regards,
Sean Pritchard

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Re: [newbie] Odd Internet problem...

2004-09-26 Per discussione Hoyt Bailey
On Saturday 25 September 2004 19:52, Erylon Hines wrote:
 On Saturday 25 September 2004 03:37 pm, Richard Urwin wrote:
 | I think Which was told off and had to publish a retraction not so
 | long ago for publicly giving that bit of advice.
 |
 | Some things to bear in mind:
 | 1. If there's an earth fault the live wire is connected to you.
 | 2. The switch is in the live wire. If, like I did, you have an
 | extension cable with the live and neutral swapped, then the live
 | parts are still live. It may still be a problem with a properly
 | wired connection if your neutral is at a different potential to
 | your earth. OK, not such a problem with a PC because the PSU is
 | enclosed.
This is true!

 This in itself is a code violation.  Why would anyone swap the hot
 and neutral--or the neutral and case ground?  Anyone that would do
 this shouldn't be doing anything electrical at all (no offense meant,
The average homeowner does not understand electricy and has no concept 
of energy observe the number of people who connect a 15amp tool to a 
100 foot #16 extension cord.  It takes no imagiation to believe that 
such a person will replace an electrical outlet with no idea which wire 
goes where even if they are color coded.  You can never be sure that 
the outlet was installed by a non electrician.  How do you hook up 
three black wires or 3 white wires or even three green wires. Have you 
inspected your electrical system for proper code.
 but everyone should test their equipment before they use it--your
 life depends on it).  And remember, Never--Ever--switch a neutral.
 The neutral and ground go to the very same place.  The difference
 between them is that the ground wire is bonded directly to the
 grounding means--the service ground, the neutral may have connections
 interposed between itself and the service ground.  (I don't mean to
 be condescending about this, but it is an important distinction).
True but it isnt according to code.

 | 3. Anti-static straps have 1MegOhm resistors in them. Without such
 | they are considered serious health and safety violations. Since
 | every piece of anti-static equipment has that, the actual
 | resistance to earth of professional gear is usually several meg
 | ohms.
Thats to keep you alive.

 For the anti-static devices, power supplies, etc.--yes.  Electrical
 codes (at least in the U.S.) require that the case be bonded directly
 to ground.
Yes but I live in a house that is pre current code.  It does not have 
grounded connectors just two slots. There are a lot of them in the 
world.

 | Personally, If I have my wrist strap with me I leave the box
 | plugged in and use it. If I don't then I still leave it plugged in,
 | but just touch the case frequently to keep myself at the same
 | potential. I think very long and hard before I decide to connect
 | myself to the case with a piece of wire.
You are setting up a condition where you can kill yourself. Always 
disconnect from power before working on the box.
 |
 | Another word of warning: some PSUs do not have an off switch. The
 | button on the front of an ATX case leaves power to some parts of
 | the motherboard. If there isn't a rocker switch on the PSU, you can
 | not leave it plugged in without having an external switch
 | somewhere.
And you cannot usually be sure that the outlet has not been changed by a 
previos tennant. I once moved into a new house that had the hot water 
connected to the toilet.

 In such a case, an external jumper from a known good ground would
 need to be applied to the metal frame of the case when the unit is
 unplugged. Otherwise, the box is floating with potential for static
 discharge, unless the repairman is floating also.  This probably
 won't be the way it is outside of the lab.
True. You must always remember that a good ground has 1 ohm or less to 
earth any more and it cannot do its job.  Be Safe and Disconnect from 
Power before working on the Box.

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Re: [newbie] Odd Internet problem...

2004-09-25 Per discussione John Wilson
On September 25, 2004 07:27 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 On Saturday 25 September 2004 01:52 am, Stephen Kühn wrote:
  MAC addresses are at hardware level; if the MAC address has changed,
  consider disabling the card in BIOS and driving out to Greenville or
  Pikeville for a new 10/100 card...
 
  --
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 As I reported to Lyvim, its all working again now, and reporting the
 original MAC address it had before. Because its quirky like this though,
 I'm gonna change it out ASAP.

 BTW, the local Wal-mart at Prestonsburg carries Linksys network cards
 Stephen, so I don't have to drive any real distance (5 miles/15 mins tops).
 :-)

Hi Ronald,

Out of nothing, at this point and keeping fingers crossed, did you check to 
see if the phantom MAC address on your son's card was duplicated in one of 
the other cards on your LAN?

The reason I ask is that he or someone else could have been playing around 
with something that could programmatically change a MAC address.  These 
changes are at software level not the hardwired level of the native MAC on 
the card itself.  But the effect is the same.  A duplicate MAC on a LAN can 
cause all kinds of problems including the one you're describing.

I spend four hours one day troubleshooting a customer ADSL setup only to check 
the LAN itself in sheer frustration and found the same MAC on three NIC 
cards.  After fixing it I asked the customer what they'd done.  They hadn't a 
clue but said that their computer guy, whose qualifications appear to be a 
mail order MSCE, had been in the day it all started and blamed it on my 
company.  It seems he was trying to get a Linksys ADSL router to spoof the 
internal MAC that had been registered with our network without going through 
the router setup to do it.

The strangest things happen sometimes and I'm starting to suspect that that's 
it.

ttfn

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Re: [newbie] Odd Internet problem...

2004-09-25 Per discussione Ronald J. Hall
On Saturday 25 September 2004 11:29 am, John Wilson wrote:

 Out of nothing, at this point and keeping fingers crossed, did you check to
 see if the phantom MAC address on your son's card was duplicated in one
 of the other cards on your LAN?

snip

Thanks for the reply, John.

Actually, I did - I checked each with ifconfig and I also logged into my 
Dlink router to see what was registering there - thats how I found that his 
had a different MAC address than it did before. I still don't know what 
happened but it could be easily something similar to what you said. After 
all, this is an adventuresome (read click-happy) 13 year old. grin

Anyways, I'll watch it for awhile and if it does it again I'm replacing it. 
(about $10 for a Linksys at the local Wal-mart).

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Re: [newbie] Odd Internet problem...

2004-09-25 Per discussione Erylon Hines
On Saturday 25 September 2004 07:33 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:

|
| But for all the *newbies* here reading this, statically wounded circuits
| can show weird symptoms months after installation.  Sometimes weird
| stuff like what Ron is seeing.  That includes (especially)
| motherboards.  It's best to have a grounded static wrist band on when
| you are inside your computer and before you remove the static packaging
| from any new component.  (static packaging isn't there because it's
| pretty.)  If you always do this, you can be sure that you've kept your
| equipment in mint condition.
|
| LX

A note on grounding.  Most times when I see instructions for this it says 
something like, Unplug your computer.

DO NOT UNPLUG YOUR COMPUTER.  If you do, you will remove the machine from the 
system ground and your box will be floating.  Any time equipment is 
floating, there is a chance that it's potential will be different from ground 
potential.  Turn it off, but leave it plugged in and the case will be bonded.  
If you are not on a workbench with a known good bond to ground, attach 
yourself to the metal part of the case, and you are good to go.

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Re: [newbie] Odd Internet problem...

2004-09-25 Per discussione H.J.Bathoorn
On Saturday 25 September 2004 17:55, Erylon Hines wrote:
 attach
 yourself to the metal part of the case, and you are good to go.

I had some wonderful shocking experiences doing so whilst forgetting to 
disconnect the plugged-in monitor.

The world's a dangerous place full of unexpected pitfalls, heh?:)

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Re: [newbie] Odd Internet problem...

2004-09-25 Per discussione Richard Urwin
On Saturday 25 Sep 2004 4:55 pm, Erylon Hines wrote:
 On Saturday 25 September 2004 07:33 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
 | But for all the *newbies* here reading this, statically wounded
 | circuits can show weird symptoms months after installation. 
 | Sometimes weird stuff like what Ron is seeing.  That includes
 | (especially) motherboards.  It's best to have a grounded static
 | wrist band on when you are inside your computer and before you
 | remove the static packaging from any new component.  (static
 | packaging isn't there because it's pretty.)  If you always do this,
 | you can be sure that you've kept your equipment in mint condition.
 |
 | LX

 A note on grounding.  Most times when I see instructions for this it
 says something like, Unplug your computer.

 DO NOT UNPLUG YOUR COMPUTER.  If you do, you will remove the machine
 from the system ground and your box will be floating.  Any time
 equipment is floating, there is a chance that it's potential will be
 different from ground potential.  Turn it off, but leave it plugged
 in and the case will be bonded. If you are not on a workbench with a
 known good bond to ground, attach yourself to the metal part of the
 case, and you are good to go.

I think Which was told off and had to publish a retraction not so long 
ago for publicly giving that bit of advice.

Some things to bear in mind:
1. If there's an earth fault the live wire is connected to you.
2. The switch is in the live wire. If, like I did, you have an extension 
cable with the live and neutral swapped, then the live parts are still 
live. It may still be a problem with a properly wired connection if 
your neutral is at a different potential to your earth. OK, not such a 
problem with a PC because the PSU is enclosed.
3. Anti-static straps have 1MegOhm resistors in them. Without such they 
are considered serious health and safety violations. Since every piece 
of anti-static equipment has that, the actual resistance to earth of 
professional gear is usually several meg ohms.

Personally, If I have my wrist strap with me I leave the box plugged in 
and use it. If I don't then I still leave it plugged in, but just touch 
the case frequently to keep myself at the same potential. I think very 
long and hard before I decide to connect myself to the case with a 
piece of wire.

Another word of warning: some PSUs do not have an off switch. The button 
on the front of an ATX case leaves power to some parts of the 
motherboard. If there isn't a rocker switch on the PSU, you can not 
leave it plugged in without having an external switch somewhere.

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Re: [newbie] Odd Internet problem...

2004-09-25 Per discussione Erylon Hines
On Saturday 25 September 2004 03:37 pm, Richard Urwin wrote:

| I think Which was told off and had to publish a retraction not so long
| ago for publicly giving that bit of advice.
|
| Some things to bear in mind:
| 1. If there's an earth fault the live wire is connected to you.
| 2. The switch is in the live wire. If, like I did, you have an extension
| cable with the live and neutral swapped, then the live parts are still
| live. It may still be a problem with a properly wired connection if
| your neutral is at a different potential to your earth. OK, not such a
| problem with a PC because the PSU is enclosed.

This in itself is a code violation.  Why would anyone swap the hot and 
neutral--or the neutral and case ground?  Anyone that would do this shouldn't 
be doing anything electrical at all (no offense meant, but everyone should 
test their equipment before they use it--your life depends on it).  And 
remember, Never--Ever--switch a neutral.  
The neutral and ground go to the very same place.  The difference between them 
is that the ground wire is bonded directly to the grounding means--the 
service ground, the neutral may have connections interposed between itself 
and the service ground.  (I don't mean to be condescending about this, but it 
is an important distinction).

| 3. Anti-static straps have 1MegOhm resistors in them. Without such they
| are considered serious health and safety violations. Since every piece
| of anti-static equipment has that, the actual resistance to earth of
| professional gear is usually several meg ohms.

For the anti-static devices, power supplies, etc.--yes.  Electrical codes (at 
least in the U.S.) require that the case be bonded directly to ground.
|
| Personally, If I have my wrist strap with me I leave the box plugged in
| and use it. If I don't then I still leave it plugged in, but just touch
| the case frequently to keep myself at the same potential. I think very
| long and hard before I decide to connect myself to the case with a
| piece of wire.
|
| Another word of warning: some PSUs do not have an off switch. The button
| on the front of an ATX case leaves power to some parts of the
| motherboard. If there isn't a rocker switch on the PSU, you can not
| leave it plugged in without having an external switch somewhere.

In such a case, an external jumper from a known good ground would need to be 
applied to the metal frame of the case when the unit is unplugged.  
Otherwise, the box is floating with potential for static discharge, unless 
the repairman is floating also.  This probably won't be the way it is outside 
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[newbie] Odd Internet problem...

2004-09-24 Per discussione Ronald J. Hall
Okay, all of a sudden my 13 year olds comp refuses to get on the Internet. 
This is a system loaded with v9.2 (download editon) of Mandrake. I've got 
cablemodem service, with a DLink router. I've always used static ip addresses 
and MAC addresses assigned to each comp on the Lan. My 13 year olds is:

darkforce2.ky.org 192.168.0.101

When he boots up, he can ping himself, or any other comp on the LAN. When I 
run ifconfig as root, it shows his ip address above, and it looks just the 
output from ifconfig on the other comps on the LAN (noting of course, the 
diff. mac and ip addressess).

This was a reliably working setup, for over a year now and I can't for the 
life of me figure out what changed. He swears that he didn't touch or change 
anything.

I looked at /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 and it looks like its 
supposed to, identical to the other comps on the LAN, noting the diff. in ip 
addressess again.

Okay, after further scouting around we did notice something really odd. The 
hardware address for his NIC is now different than it was before. Why would 
this change? I tried going into the config page for my router and changing it 
to the new hardware address then restarting everything but it made no 
difference.

Any ideas anyone? Any directions or leads?

Thanks, a very confused -

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Re: [newbie] Odd Internet problem...

2004-09-24 Per discussione Stephen Kühn
On Sat, 2004-09-25 at 11:52, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 Okay, all of a sudden my 13 year olds comp refuses to get on the Internet. 
 This is a system loaded with v9.2 (download editon) of Mandrake. I've got 
 cablemodem service, with a DLink router. I've always used static ip addresses 
 and MAC addresses assigned to each comp on the Lan. My 13 year olds is:
 
 darkforce2.ky.org 192.168.0.101
 
 When he boots up, he can ping himself, or any other comp on the LAN. When I 
 run ifconfig as root, it shows his ip address above, and it looks just the 
 output from ifconfig on the other comps on the LAN (noting of course, the 
 diff. mac and ip addressess).
 
 This was a reliably working setup, for over a year now and I can't for the 
 life of me figure out what changed. He swears that he didn't touch or change 
 anything.
 
 I looked at /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 and it looks like its 
 supposed to, identical to the other comps on the LAN, noting the diff. in ip 
 addressess again.
 
 Okay, after further scouting around we did notice something really odd. The 
 hardware address for his NIC is now different than it was before. Why would 
 this change? I tried going into the config page for my router and changing it 
 to the new hardware address then restarting everything but it made no 
 difference.
 
 Any ideas anyone? Any directions or leads?
 
 Thanks, a very confused -

...and I'm sure you checked the GATEWAY= bit, too, yeah?
...and the /etc/resolv.conf ?

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Re: [newbie] Odd Internet problem...

2004-09-24 Per discussione Ronald J. Hall
On Friday 24 September 2004 09:57 pm, Stephen Kühn wrote:

 ...and I'm sure you checked the GATEWAY= bit, too, yeah?
 ...and the /etc/resolv.conf ?

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Hey Stephen. Thanks for the reply.

Yep, sure did - all appears to be normal. Its very odd, this.

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Re: [newbie] Odd Internet problem...

2004-09-24 Per discussione Stephen Kühn
On Sat, 2004-09-25 at 12:17, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 On Friday 24 September 2004 09:57 pm, Stephen Kühn wrote:
 
  ...and I'm sure you checked the GATEWAY= bit, too, yeah?
  ...and the /etc/resolv.conf ?
 
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 Hey Stephen. Thanks for the reply.
 
 Yep, sure did - all appears to be normal. Its very odd, this.

Ethernet card is bad.

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Re: [newbie] Odd Internet problem...

2004-09-24 Per discussione Lyvim Xaphir
On Fri, 2004-09-24 at 21:52, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 Okay, all of a sudden my 13 year olds comp refuses to get on the Internet. 
 This is a system loaded with v9.2 (download editon) of Mandrake. I've got 
 cablemodem service, with a DLink router. I've always used static ip addresses 
 and MAC addresses assigned to each comp on the Lan. My 13 year olds is:
 
 darkforce2.ky.org 192.168.0.101
 
 When he boots up, he can ping himself, or any other comp on the LAN. When I 
 run ifconfig as root, it shows his ip address above, and it looks just the 
 output from ifconfig on the other comps on the LAN (noting of course, the 
 diff. mac and ip addressess).
 
 This was a reliably working setup, for over a year now and I can't for the 
 life of me figure out what changed. He swears that he didn't touch or change 
 anything.
 
 I looked at /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 and it looks like its 
 supposed to, identical to the other comps on the LAN, noting the diff. in ip 
 addressess again.
 
 Okay, after further scouting around we did notice something really odd. The 
 hardware address for his NIC is now different than it was before. Why would 
 this change? I tried going into the config page for my router and changing it 
 to the new hardware address then restarting everything but it made no 
 difference.
 
 Any ideas anyone? Any directions or leads?
 

Does he have onboard 10/100 and is it a Broadcomm chip?  Seems I
remember reading that the mac addresses for onboard stuff could be
changed...somewhere.  I thought it interesting at the time but right now
I can't remember exactly what the context was.

Check the route via the route command and make sure he has the right
gateway.  Don't depend on the config files, use route and see what's
there from the command line.

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Re: [newbie] Odd Internet problem...

2004-09-24 Per discussione Ronald J. Hall
On Saturday 25 September 2004 12:12 am, Stephen Kühn wrote:

  Yep, sure did - all appears to be normal. Its very odd, this.

 Ethernet card is bad.

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Thought about that possibility - that would explain the hardware (MAC) address 
changing on its own maybe?

Thanks.

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Re: [newbie] Odd Internet problem...

2004-09-24 Per discussione Ronald J. Hall
On Saturday 25 September 2004 01:17 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:

 Does he have onboard 10/100 and is it a Broadcomm chip?  Seems I
 remember reading that the mac addresses for onboard stuff could be
 changed...somewhere.  I thought it interesting at the time but right now
 I can't remember exactly what the context was.

Nope, its an actual NIC, a Linksys, which is what I've got in all 3 comps on 
my LAN - they've been rock solid until now, but they are anywhere from 3 - 5 
years old.

Yes. There is a command to change how the actual hardware address of the NIC 
is reflected (this is with the IPX tools installed:

ipx_interface add -p eth0 802.2 0x12345678

Quite some time since I used it - it was primarily in conjunction with trying 
to get an earlier version of Starcraft to work with networking. Thankfully, 
the later updates to Starcraft allowed networking, and not having to use IPX 
as the protocol.

 Check the route via the route command and make sure he has the right
 gateway.  Don't depend on the config files, use route and see what's
 there from the command line.

 LX

He's in bed asleep now - I'll try it first thing in the morning. Thanks!

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[newbie] no internet connection on MOL

2004-01-06 Per discussione josh4
I was just wondering it anyone has any ideas as to why i can't connect to the internet 
through the MOL (mac on linux) emulator.

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[newbie-it] internet connessione e stato

2003-11-18 Per discussione [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ciao a tutti,
Uso Linux Mandrake 9.2 da 2gg con gnome sono un principiante assoluto, scusate per cui 
la banalita' dei miei problemi: ho una connessione con modem funzionante a 56kbit 
che attivo e disattivo con una procedura che mi sembra piuttosto contorta:
centro di controllo | psw di root | gestione reti | connetti
invece mi piacerebbe avere sul pannello un'icona che mi dica se la connessione e' 
attivata o no, e
che permetta di disattivarla VELOCEMENTE e vedere il traffico di rete.
e inoltre come faccio a scegliere quale connessione remota utilizzare?
Grazie
Christian





Re: [newbie-it] internet connessione e stato

2003-11-18 Per discussione Fabio Manunza
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Alle 10:50, martedì 18 novembre 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:
 Ciao a tutti,
 Uso Linux Mandrake 9.2 da 2gg con gnome sono un principiante assoluto,
 scusate per cui la banalita' dei miei problemi: ho una connessione con
 modem funzionante a 56kbit che attivo e disattivo con una procedura che mi
 sembra piuttosto contorta: centro di controllo | psw di root | gestione
 reti | connetti
 invece mi piacerebbe avere sul pannello un'icona che mi dica se la
 connessione e' attivata o no, e che permetta di disattivarla VELOCEMENTE e
 vedere il traffico di rete. e inoltre come faccio a scegliere quale
 connessione remota utilizzare? Grazie
 Christian
Ti consiglio il passaggio a konqueror, che risulta essere molto più integrato 
nella distro mdk rispetto a gnome; oltretutto ti risolve anche ilproblema da 
te posto...(kppp).
Vale.

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Re: [newbie-it] internet connessione e stato

2003-11-18 Per discussione Moreno T
Tutto era filato liscio fino alle 16:09, martedì 18 novembre 2003, quando 
Fabio Manunza ha scritto:

 Ti consiglio il passaggio a konqueror, 

Intendevi dire KDE, vero? ;-)

Ciao
Moreno




Re: [newbie-it] internet connessione e stato

2003-11-18 Per discussione miKe
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- -it :
 Ciao a tutti,
 Uso Linux Mandrake 9.2 da 2gg con gnome 
..
 psw di root | gestione reti | connetti invece mi piacerebbe avere sul
 pannello un'icona che mi dica se la connessione e' attivata o no, e
 che permetta di disattivarla VELOCEMENTE e vedere il traffico di
 rete. e inoltre come faccio a scegliere quale connessione remota
 utilizzare? 

gnome non integra più gppp ?

Grazie
 Christian

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[newbie] Keep internet connection live

2003-11-02 Per discussione Johan
Hi,
FYI...
Sometime ago I asked for some way to keep the internet connection live while
not using it.
We in ZA have callmore time and infinetcall - which means if you connect
friday 1900 and you can stay connected up to monday 0700 for a once off
charge.
So staying connected for 1 hr or whole weekend cost the same.
Actually yesterday I found a easy solution.
On the mailprogram activate it to fetch mail every 10 or whatever minutes
and then keep it open while on the net.

Johan

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[newbie] Mini-Internet Provider

2003-06-17 Per discussione João Candido Araujo Milasch Filho




Hi,
I sent the following message to expert list, but i 
think its a newbie question, so, i'm sending here. thanks for all.

" Hello, 


 I'm currently sharing my ADSL internet 
with my sister. But she uses much less internet than I do, and she dont want to 
pay half of the ADSL costs for that. So I will charge her for hour or give her a 
hour/mounth quote. She will connect on my Mini Internet Provider by LAN 
withWindows. I need to know which services I can use for that problem. I 
would like to limit the bandwith too (I got 300kbps, and like to give her max 
150).

 Can anyone lead me soI can 
google for the configure informations?

Thanks all

Milasch"


Re: [newbie] Mini-Internet Provider

2003-06-17 Per discussione João Candido Araujo Milasch Filho
Thanx All for the help! Getting home, ill try to do those things. :
And ill not let my sister use something so expensive to me for free. if she
at least deserve it, i could think! Hehehehe

Thanks again!
:P
- Original Message - 
From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Mini-Internet Provider


 On Tuesday 17 Jun 2003 5:42 pm, João Candido Araujo Milasch Filho wrote:
  Hi,
  I sent the following message to expert list, but i think its a newbie
  question, so, i'm sending here. thanks for all.
 
   Hello,
 
 
 I'm currently sharing my ADSL internet with my sister. But she uses
much
  less internet than I do, and she dont want to pay half of the ADSL costs
  for that. So I will charge her for hour or give her a hour/mounth quote.
  She will connect on my Mini Internet Provider by LAN with Windows. I
need
  to know which services I can use for that problem. I would like to limit
  the bandwith too (I got 300kbps, and like to give her max 150).
 
 Can anyone lead me so I can google for the configure informations?
 
  Thanks all
 
  Milasch

 The standard shorewall firewall in your computer can do traffic shaping to
 limit bandwidth.
 http://www.shorewall.net/traffic_shaping.htm
 However it needs to be enabled in the kernel as well. I am not sure if the
 stock Mandrake kernel has it. You might have to do a kernel recompile.

 As for accounting you could run a Squid proxy server which would have the
 benefit of speeding up Interet access for you both, and you can use the
logs
 from Squid for accounting. (There are packages which will process the logs
 for you) Run Privoxy at the same time and you can get rid of annoying
adverts
 and pop ups for her. Now thats worth paying for!
 http://www.squid-cache.org/
 http://www.privoxy.org/

 Squid and privoxy are both on your install CDs


 On the other hand you could just be nice to her and let her have free
access
 :-)

 derek

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Re: [newbie] Mini-Internet Provider

2003-06-17 Per discussione Tobias Gunawan
--

- Original Message -



DATE: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:42:07

From: João Candido Araujo Milasch Filho [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Cc: 

Hi,
I sent the following message to expert list, but i think its a newbie question, so, i'm sending here. thanks for all.

" Hello, 


 I'm currently sharing my ADSL internet with my sister. But she uses much less internet than I do, and she dont want to pay half of the ADSL costs for that. So I will charge her for hour or give her a hour/mounth quote. She will connect on my Mini Internet Provider by LAN withWindows. I need to know which services I can use for that problem. I would like to limit the bandwith too (I got 300kbps, and like to give her max 150).

 Can anyone lead me soI can google for the configure informations?

Thanks all

Milasch"


 If your sister connect to your Mini Internet Provider Switch, and the switch is a managable switch, I thinkyou can configure the switch to make it doing a bandwidth priority. I forgetthe name of thatparameter . The parameter has number startform 1 until256 (I think). I know this from CNAP class.
 Or if you are an Internet Provider I think you have proxy server. Maybe proxy server can make bandwidth priority too. I'm only guesting hee.. hee.. This is all I got.

RE: [newbie] [Fwd: Internet Security Update]

2003-04-01 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2003-04-01 at 12:24, Adolfo Bello wrote:

 Why don't you guys love M$? grin

Microsoft makes me money.
Linux makes me happy.

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Re: [newbie] [Fwd: Internet Security Update]

2003-04-01 Per discussione eric huff
  Why don't you guys love M$? grin

Oh, but i do. I love clicking Yes every day for a week wondering why there
are so many security fixxes before realizing that it's the same update every
day!   Buh-de...



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[newbie] [Fwd: Internet Security Update]

2003-03-31 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn




Sorry about the HTML - but I thought this was rather funny - what a lame attempt to drop executables on people's boxes...
(BTW, Microsoft does not send emails to clients with executables attached...if y'all didn't know)

-Forwarded Message-
From: MS Public Services [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Microsoft Customer
Subject: Internet Security Update
Date: 31 Mar 2003 08:22:57 -0700


Microsoft Customer 

this is the latest version of security update, the
March 2003, Cumulative Patch update which eliminates
all known security vulnerabilities affecting Internet Explorer,
Outlook and Outlook Express as well as five newly
discovered vulnerabilities. Install now to protect your computer
from these vulnerabilities, the most serious of which could allow
an attacker to run executable on your system. This update includes
the functionality of all previously released patches.




System requirements


Win 9x/Me/2000/NT/XP




This update applies to


Microsoft Internet Explorer, version 4.01 and later
Microsoft Outlook, version 8.00 and later
Microsoft Outlook Express, version 4.01 and later




Recommendation


Customers should install the patch at the earliest opportunity.




How to install


Run attached file. Click Yes on displayed dialog box.




How to use


You don't need to do anything after installing this item.




Microsoft Product Support Services and Knowledge Base articles
can be found on the Microsoft Technical Support web site.
For security-related information about Microsoft products, please
visit the Microsoft Security Advisor web site, or Contact us.

Please do not reply to this message. It was sent from an unmonitored
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Thank you for using Microsoft products. 

Best wishes from 
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RE: [newbie] [Fwd: Internet Security Update]

2003-03-31 Per discussione Frankie
I bet a heap of people fall for it anyway

rgds

Franki
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Stephen Kuhn
Sent: Tuesday, 1 April 2003 3:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] [Fwd: Internet Security Update]


Sorry about the HTML - but I thought this was rather funny - what a lame attempt to 
drop executables on people's boxes...
(BTW, Microsoft does not send emails to clients with executables attached...if y'all 
didn't know)

-Forwarded Message-
From: MS Public Services [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Microsoft Customer
Subject: Internet Security Update
Date: 31 Mar 2003 08:22:57 -0700


Microsoft Customer 

this is the latest version of security update, the
March 2003, Cumulative Patch update which eliminates
all known security vulnerabilities affecting Internet Explorer,
Outlook and Outlook Express as well as five newly
discovered vulnerabilities. Install now to protect your computer
from these vulnerabilities, the most serious of which could allow
an attacker to run executable on your system. This update includes
the functionality of all previously released patches.

System requirements Win 9x/Me/2000/NT/XP 
This update applies to Microsoft Internet Explorer, version 4.01 and later
Microsoft Outlook, version 8.00 and later
Microsoft Outlook Express, version 4.01 and later 
Recommendation Customers should install the patch at the earliest opportunity. 
How to install Run attached file. Click Yes on displayed dialog box. 
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RE: [newbie] [Fwd: Internet Security Update]

2003-03-31 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2003-04-01 at 05:36, Frankie wrote:
 I bet a heap of people fall for it anyway
 
 rgds
 
 Franki

Hate to say it, but mate, I'll make $75 per cleaning - so it ain't no
skin offa my nose - I just plug'em into my network, run f-prot on that
box, and voila!, they're done (unless I have to do a re-install, then
it's an extra $110)

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RE: [newbie] [Fwd: Internet Security Update]

2003-03-31 Per discussione Frankie

yeah, I am in the same boat...
accept i charge 90 an hour.. minimium one hour charge...

(WA is the ass of the world.. so we can charge more.. :-)

still its pointless work.. people don't learn, they are back with the next
one a couple of months later..
so it bores me nowdays..

rgds

Franki



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Sent: Tuesday, 1 April 2003 3:46 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [newbie] [Fwd: Internet Security Update]


On Tue, 2003-04-01 at 05:36, Frankie wrote:
 I bet a heap of people fall for it anyway

 rgds

 Franki

Hate to say it, but mate, I'll make $75 per cleaning - so it ain't no
skin offa my nose - I just plug'em into my network, run f-prot on that
box, and voila!, they're done (unless I have to do a re-install, then
it's an extra $110)

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RE: [newbie] [Fwd: Internet Security Update]

2003-03-31 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2003-04-01 at 06:30, Frankie wrote:
 yeah, I am in the same boat...
 accept i charge 90 an hour.. minimium one hour charge...
 
 (WA is the ass of the world.. so we can charge more.. :-)
 
 still its pointless work.. people don't learn, they are back with the next
 one a couple of months later..
 so it bores me nowdays..
 
 rgds
 
 Franki

$90/hr for home users? Hmaybe I need to upgrade me
costs...although, I work outta the house and don't have any
overhead...but for biz, I start at $110/hr and go up to $320/hr
depending on the situation...

I sure don't mind a heap of $75 drop-offs - especially when it gets to
be like 20 or more a week...

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[newbie] Aargh: Internet Explorer HTTPS = DNS fail

2003-02-12 Per discussione Michael Adams
Does somebody recognize a strange error a friend is having while making HTTPS 
attempts to connect to his bank with IE (Never thought i'd be asking this one 
here). IE returns an Error Page with no number (like 404)

The page advises it could be caused by
- site temporarily unavailable
- slow connection
- incorrect address
- site doesn't exist
(Sounds 404ish doesn't it)

He was previously connecting OK to this site. It does still exist. All 
Security settings are checked on in Tools  Internet Options  Advanced tab  
Security (SSL 2.0, SSL 3.0, TLS 1.0, PCT 1.0).

I did see a momentary request for http://https://web.site.name, Which may 
be the problem, or it may be an attempt to re-lookup after the initial 
failure.

My second course of action is to reload win98 for him as neither the bank nor 
his ISP could help. Loading Mandrake for him is not an option as he is on a 
course which requires Word and Outlook Express (AAARGH again).
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Re: [newbie] Aargh: Internet Explorer HTTPS = DNS fail

2003-02-12 Per discussione Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 12 Feb 2003 9:46 am, Michael Adams wrote:
 Does somebody recognize a strange error a friend is having while making
 HTTPS attempts to connect to his bank with IE (Never thought i'd be asking
 this one here). IE returns an Error Page with no number (like 404)

 The page advises it could be caused by
 - site temporarily unavailable
 - slow connection
 - incorrect address
 - site doesn't exist
 (Sounds 404ish doesn't it)

 He was previously connecting OK to this site. It does still exist. All
 Security settings are checked on in Tools  Internet Options  Advanced tab
  Security (SSL 2.0, SSL 3.0, TLS 1.0, PCT 1.0).

 I did see a momentary request for http://https://web.site.name, Which
 may be the problem, or it may be an attempt to re-lookup after the initial
 failure.

 My second course of action is to reload win98 for him as neither the bank
 nor his ISP could help. Loading Mandrake for him is not an option as he is
 on a course which requires Word and Outlook Express (AAARGH again).

Just a suggestion - load Mozilla for windows for him.  It would tell you 
whether the problem was IE specific, or something more general.

Anne
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RE: [newbie] Aargh: Internet Explorer HTTPS = DNS fail

2003-02-12 Per discussione Franki
There is an option in IE under advanced to set all default... try that..

Also set it for default security...

Try it again..

then try pinging the address you are having a problem with..

then try turning off his proxy server if one is set.

Then try setting up another Inet connection on the machine, see if the
problem still exists...


Just some stuff to try..


rgds

Franki

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Anne Wilson
Sent: Wednesday, 12 February 2003 5:59 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Aargh: Internet Explorer HTTPS = DNS fail


On Wednesday 12 Feb 2003 9:46 am, Michael Adams wrote:
 Does somebody recognize a strange error a friend is having while making
 HTTPS attempts to connect to his bank with IE (Never thought i'd be asking
 this one here). IE returns an Error Page with no number (like 404)

 The page advises it could be caused by
 - site temporarily unavailable
 - slow connection
 - incorrect address
 - site doesn't exist
 (Sounds 404ish doesn't it)

 He was previously connecting OK to this site. It does still exist. All
 Security settings are checked on in Tools  Internet Options  Advanced
tab
  Security (SSL 2.0, SSL 3.0, TLS 1.0, PCT 1.0).

 I did see a momentary request for http://https://web.site.name, Which
 may be the problem, or it may be an attempt to re-lookup after the initial
 failure.

 My second course of action is to reload win98 for him as neither the bank
 nor his ISP could help. Loading Mandrake for him is not an option as he is
 on a course which requires Word and Outlook Express (AAARGH again).

Just a suggestion - load Mozilla for windows for him.  It would tell you
whether the problem was IE specific, or something more general.

Anne
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Re: [newbie] Aargh: Internet Explorer HTTPS = DNS fail

2003-02-12 Per discussione et
On Wednesday 12 February 2003 04:58 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Wednesday 12 Feb 2003 9:46 am, Michael Adams wrote:
  Does somebody recognize a strange error a friend is having while making
  HTTPS attempts to connect to his bank with IE (Never thought i'd be
  asking this one here). IE returns an Error Page with no number (like 404)
 
  The page advises it could be caused by
  - site temporarily unavailable
  - slow connection
  - incorrect address
  - site doesn't exist
  (Sounds 404ish doesn't it)
 
  He was previously connecting OK to this site. It does still exist. All
  Security settings are checked on in Tools  Internet Options  Advanced
  tab
 
   Security (SSL 2.0, SSL 3.0, TLS 1.0, PCT 1.0).
 
  I did see a momentary request for http://https://web.site.name, Which
  may be the problem, or it may be an attempt to re-lookup after the
  initial failure.
 
  My second course of action is to reload win98 for him as neither the bank
  nor his ISP could help. Loading Mandrake for him is not an option as he
  is on a course which requires Word and Outlook Express (AAARGH again).

 Just a suggestion - load Mozilla for windows for him.  It would tell you
 whether the problem was IE specific, or something more general.

 Anne

and you can make konq or mozilla report it is IE4+ and the bank might never 
know the diference,,,works for my bank



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Re: [newbie] Aargh: Internet Explorer HTTPS = DNS fail

2003-02-12 Per discussione Michael Viron
Under tools -- Internet Options -- Advanced tab, make sure that Show
friendly HTTP error messages is unchecked.  That will provide information
on what the error actually is.

Michael
At 10:46 PM 2/12/2003 +1300, you wrote:
Does somebody recognize a strange error a friend is having while making
HTTPS 
attempts to connect to his bank with IE (Never thought i'd be asking this
one 
here). IE returns an Error Page with no number (like 404)

The page advises it could be caused by
- site temporarily unavailable
- slow connection
- incorrect address
- site doesn't exist
(Sounds 404ish doesn't it)

He was previously connecting OK to this site. It does still exist. All 
Security settings are checked on in Tools  Internet Options  Advanced
tab  
Security (SSL 2.0, SSL 3.0, TLS 1.0, PCT 1.0).

I did see a momentary request for http://https://web.site.name, Which
may 
be the problem, or it may be an attempt to re-lookup after the initial 
failure.

My second course of action is to reload win98 for him as neither the bank
nor 
his ISP could help. Loading Mandrake for him is not an option as he is on a 
course which requires Word and Outlook Express (AAARGH again).
-- 
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Re: [newbie] Aargh: Internet Explorer HTTPS = DNS fail

2003-02-12 Per discussione Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 12 Feb 2003 11:59 am, et wrote:
 On Wednesday 12 February 2003 04:58 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
  On Wednesday 12 Feb 2003 9:46 am, Michael Adams wrote:
   Does somebody recognize a strange error a friend is having while making
   HTTPS attempts to connect to his bank with IE (Never thought i'd be
   asking this one here). IE returns an Error Page with no number (like
   404)
  
   The page advises it could be caused by
   - site temporarily unavailable
   - slow connection
   - incorrect address
   - site doesn't exist
   (Sounds 404ish doesn't it)
  
   He was previously connecting OK to this site. It does still exist. All
   Security settings are checked on in Tools  Internet Options  Advanced
   tab
  
Security (SSL 2.0, SSL 3.0, TLS 1.0, PCT 1.0).
  
   I did see a momentary request for http://https://web.site.name,
   Which may be the problem, or it may be an attempt to re-lookup after
   the initial failure.
  
   My second course of action is to reload win98 for him as neither the
   bank nor his ISP could help. Loading Mandrake for him is not an option
   as he is on a course which requires Word and Outlook Express (AAARGH
   again).
 
  Just a suggestion - load Mozilla for windows for him.  It would tell you
  whether the problem was IE specific, or something more general.
 
  Anne

 and you can make konq or mozilla report it is IE4+ and the bank might never
 know the diference,,,works for my bank

I can use either, without aliasing, and it causes no problem, but if your 
does, then grit your teeth and do it.

Anne
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Re: [newbie] Aargh: Internet Explorer HTTPS = DNS fail

2003-02-12 Per discussione civileme
On Wednesday 12 February 2003 12:46 am, Michael Adams wrote:
 Does somebody recognize a strange error a friend is having while making
 HTTPS attempts to connect to his bank with IE (Never thought i'd be asking
 this one here). IE returns an Error Page with no number (like 404)

 The page advises it could be caused by
 - site temporarily unavailable
 - slow connection
 - incorrect address
 - site doesn't exist
 (Sounds 404ish doesn't it)

 He was previously connecting OK to this site. It does still exist. All
 Security settings are checked on in Tools  Internet Options  Advanced tab
  Security (SSL 2.0, SSL 3.0, TLS 1.0, PCT 1.0).

 I did see a momentary request for http://https://web.site.name, Which
 may be the problem, or it may be an attempt to re-lookup after the initial
 failure.

 My second course of action is to reload win98 for him as neither the bank
 nor his ISP could help. Loading Mandrake for him is not an option as he is
 on a course which requires Word and Outlook Express (AAARGH again).


OOwriter = Word
Evolution=Outlook Express

Use Opera free version for either his windoze or Mandrake, and set it to 
identify itself as IE.

Civileme




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[newbie] Using Internet

2002-12-19 Per discussione Gil Katz
Hi
I got mandrake 9.0 and when I connect to the internet I can do nothing I
mean
I cant surf I can't send and receive mail I cant even ping.
Does anyone got an idea?
Gil



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Re: [newbie] Using Internet

2002-12-19 Per discussione Milos Prudek


Gil Katz wrote:

Hi
I got mandrake 9.0 and when I connect to the internet I can do nothing I
mean
I cant surf I can't send and receive mail I cant even ping.


Can you ping your gateway?

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RE: [newbie] Using Internet

2002-12-19 Per discussione Gil Katz
I'm using modem and the modem connects to the internet and from then nothing
And I not using Firewall.

 -Original Message-
From:   Brian Parish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Thursday, December 19, 2002 1:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: [newbie] Using Internet

On Thu, 2002-12-19 at 21:53, Gil Katz wrote:
 Hi
 I got mandrake 9.0 and when I connect to the internet I can do nothing I
 mean
 I cant surf I can't send and receive mail I cant even ping.
 Does anyone got an idea?
 Gil
 
You'll need to give some details on what you have set up.  Is this a
dial-up connection, cable, DSL?  Firewalled?  What seems to work and
what doesn't?  Does it seem to establish a connection?  What's the
output of: ifconfig?

Lots of help available here, but not without something to go on.

cheers
Brian




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RE: [newbie] Using Internet

2002-12-19 Per discussione Gil Katz
Here is the output of lfconfig
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:50:04:EE:03:88
  inet addr:192.168.0.2  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:559 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:1472 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:1028
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
  RX bytes:123381 (120.4 Kb)  TX bytes:126049 (123.0 Kb)
  Interrupt:5 Base address:0xb400

loLink encap:Local Loopback
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
  RX packets:1217 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:1217 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
  RX bytes:109314 (106.7 Kb)  TX bytes:109314 (106.7 Kb)

ppp0  Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol
  inet addr:204.141.45.8  P-t-P:204.141.45.121  Mask:255.255.255.255
  UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:4 errors:3 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:6 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:3
  RX bytes:82 (82.0 b)  TX bytes:131 (131.0 b)
Gil

-Original Message-
From: Brian Parish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 1:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Using Internet


On Thu, 2002-12-19 at 21:53, Gil Katz wrote:
 Hi
 I got mandrake 9.0 and when I connect to the internet I can do nothing I
 mean
 I cant surf I can't send and receive mail I cant even ping.
 Does anyone got an idea?
 Gil

You'll need to give some details on what you have set up.  Is this a
dial-up connection, cable, DSL?  Firewalled?  What seems to work and
what doesn't?  Does it seem to establish a connection?  What's the
output of: ifconfig?

Lots of help available here, but not without something to go on.

cheers
Brian




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RE: [newbie] Using Internet

2002-12-19 Per discussione Brian Parish
On Thu, 2002-12-19 at 22:52, Gil Katz wrote:
 Here is the output of lfconfig
 eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:50:04:EE:03:88
   inet addr:192.168.0.2  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
   RX packets:559 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
   TX packets:1472 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:1028
   collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
   RX bytes:123381 (120.4 Kb)  TX bytes:126049 (123.0 Kb)
   Interrupt:5 Base address:0xb400
 
 loLink encap:Local Loopback
   inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
   UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
   RX packets:1217 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
   TX packets:1217 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
   collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
   RX bytes:109314 (106.7 Kb)  TX bytes:109314 (106.7 Kb)
 
 ppp0  Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol
   inet addr:204.141.45.8  P-t-P:204.141.45.121  Mask:255.255.255.255
   UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
   RX packets:4 errors:3 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
   TX packets:6 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
   collisions:0 txqueuelen:3
   RX bytes:82 (82.0 b)  TX bytes:131 (131.0 b)
 Gil
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Brian Parish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 1:22 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Using Internet
 
 
 On Thu, 2002-12-19 at 21:53, Gil Katz wrote:
  Hi
  I got mandrake 9.0 and when I connect to the internet I can do nothing I
  mean
  I cant surf I can't send and receive mail I cant even ping.
  Does anyone got an idea?
  Gil
 
OK, well you are obviously getting a connection.  Check that shorewall
hasn't got into the act by doing the following:

run MCC (Mandrake Control Center
select Security
select Firewall

If you get a message saying that the shorewall package needs to be
installed, then that's not the problem (don't install it).  Otherwise,
check that the access allowed is ALL (no firewall).

HTH
Brian






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Re: [newbie] Using Internet

2002-12-19 Per discussione Derek Jennings
On Thursday 19 Dec 2002 1:37 pm, Brian Parish wrote:
 On Thu, 2002-12-19 at 22:52, Gil Katz wrote:
  Here is the output of lfconfig
  eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:50:04:EE:03:88
inet addr:192.168.0.2  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
RX packets:559 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:1472 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:1028
collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
RX bytes:123381 (120.4 Kb)  TX bytes:126049 (123.0 Kb)
Interrupt:5 Base address:0xb400
 
  loLink encap:Local Loopback
inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
RX packets:1217 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:1217 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
RX bytes:109314 (106.7 Kb)  TX bytes:109314 (106.7 Kb)
 
  ppp0  Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol
inet addr:204.141.45.8  P-t-P:204.141.45.121 
  Mask:255.255.255.255 UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST  MTU:1500 
  Metric:1 RX packets:4 errors:3 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:6 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:3
RX bytes:82 (82.0 b)  TX bytes:131 (131.0 b)
  Gil
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Brian Parish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 1:22 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [newbie] Using Internet
 
  On Thu, 2002-12-19 at 21:53, Gil Katz wrote:
   Hi
   I got mandrake 9.0 and when I connect to the internet I can do nothing
   I mean
   I cant surf I can't send and receive mail I cant even ping.
   Does anyone got an idea?
   Gil

 OK, well you are obviously getting a connection.  Check that shorewall
 hasn't got into the act by doing the following:

 run MCC (Mandrake Control Center
 select Security
 select Firewall

 If you get a message saying that the shorewall package needs to be
 installed, then that's not the problem (don't install it).  Otherwise,
 check that the access allowed is ALL (no firewall).

 HTH
 Brian

Sorry for cutting into this thread, but I see there is a local Ethernet 
defined. It is possible the Ethernet is set as default gateway so preventing 
Internet traffic from using dialup.
You can test this by typing in a root terminal
'route'  You will then get a display of known routes. If one of them shows the 
default route as being via eth0 then that is the problem. To fix it for the 
current session

route del default
route add default ppp0

HTH

derek




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Re: [newbie] Using Internet

2002-12-19 Per discussione Milos Prudek


Gil Katz wrote:

If I'm using the Ethernet card I can ping the gateway but when I use the
modem I cannot.


Are you using IP address of the gateway, or hostname?

If IP address ping does not work: you may have incorrect route. Check 
with the route command.

If hostname ping does not work, but IP address ping works: your route is 
OK, but you have DNS problems. Check /etc/resolv.conf.

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Re: [newbie] Using Internet

2002-12-19 Per discussione magnet
On Thursday 19 Dec 2002 2:11 pm, Milos Prudek wrote:
 Gil Katz wrote:
  If I'm using the Ethernet card I can ping the gateway but when I use the
  modem I cannot.

 Are you using IP address of the gateway, or hostname?

 If IP address ping does not work: you may have incorrect route. Check
 with the route command.

 If hostname ping does not work, but IP address ping works: your route is
 OK, but you have DNS problems. Check /etc/resolv.conf.

Open a shell, su yourself as root and then type [without quotes]

`vi /etc/sysconfig/network`

there is a line in there: GATEWAY=eth0

change it to: GATEWAY=ppp0

This tells it to use your modem and not the ethernet port as your internet 
input device.

Also worth changing the following lines:

   FORWARD_IPV4=true
   NETWORKING=yes

Happy surfing :))

regards
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RE: [newbie] Using Internet

2002-12-19 Per discussione Klar Brian D Contr MSG/SICN
When I installed Mdk9, I had dialup, and a eth0 as well.
Using the Mandrake wizard, always seemed to make gatewaydev in /etc/sysconfig/network 
file point to eth0
change that line to ppp0, then as root, service network restart. Hope this helps.

Brian D. Klar - CVE
Multimax 
Network Engineer
WPAFB



-Original Message-
From: Derek Jennings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 8:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Using Internet


On Thursday 19 Dec 2002 1:37 pm, Brian Parish wrote:
 On Thu, 2002-12-19 at 22:52, Gil Katz wrote:
  Here is the output of lfconfig
  eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:50:04:EE:03:88
inet addr:192.168.0.2  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
RX packets:559 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:1472 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:1028
collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
RX bytes:123381 (120.4 Kb)  TX bytes:126049 (123.0 Kb)
Interrupt:5 Base address:0xb400
 
  loLink encap:Local Loopback
inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
RX packets:1217 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:1217 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
RX bytes:109314 (106.7 Kb)  TX bytes:109314 (106.7 Kb)
 
  ppp0  Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol
inet addr:204.141.45.8  P-t-P:204.141.45.121 
  Mask:255.255.255.255 UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST  MTU:1500 
  Metric:1 RX packets:4 errors:3 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:6 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:3
RX bytes:82 (82.0 b)  TX bytes:131 (131.0 b)
  Gil
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Brian Parish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 1:22 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [newbie] Using Internet
 
  On Thu, 2002-12-19 at 21:53, Gil Katz wrote:
   Hi
   I got mandrake 9.0 and when I connect to the internet I can do nothing
   I mean
   I cant surf I can't send and receive mail I cant even ping.
   Does anyone got an idea?
   Gil

 OK, well you are obviously getting a connection.  Check that shorewall
 hasn't got into the act by doing the following:

 run MCC (Mandrake Control Center
 select Security
 select Firewall

 If you get a message saying that the shorewall package needs to be
 installed, then that's not the problem (don't install it).  Otherwise,
 check that the access allowed is ALL (no firewall).

 HTH
 Brian

Sorry for cutting into this thread, but I see there is a local Ethernet 
defined. It is possible the Ethernet is set as default gateway so preventing 
Internet traffic from using dialup.
You can test this by typing in a root terminal
'route'  You will then get a display of known routes. If one of them shows the 
default route as being via eth0 then that is the problem. To fix it for the 
current session

route del default
route add default ppp0

HTH

derek




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Re: [newbie] Using Internet

2002-12-19 Per discussione Anthony Abby
Gil Katz said:
 Hi
 I got mandrake 9.0 and when I connect to the internet I can do nothing I
 mean
 I cant surf I can't send and receive mail I cant even ping.
 Does anyone got an idea?
 Gil

Gil, really need a bit more detail to figure out what your problem might
be... can you ping your own interface... localhost... default gateway?




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[newbie] Using internet

2002-12-19 Per discussione Gil Katz
OK
i play a little bit with mandrake center and change the default to the
network card and i can surf via the Ethernet, but when i try to connect
via the modem i get error message
Timeout expired while waiting for the PPP interface to come up!
any idea
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Re: [newbie] Using internet

2002-12-19 Per discussione Milos Prudek


Gil Katz wrote:

OK
i play a little bit with mandrake center and change the default to the
network card and i can surf via the Ethernet, but when i try to connect
via the modem i get error message
Timeout expired while waiting for the PPP interface to come up!


A possible reason:

ppp will not connect if you have default gateway already set when ppp is 
asked to connect.

And you probably have default gateway already set.

You must delete your default route to eth0 before you attempt to connect 
via modem (i.e. via ppp).

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Re: [newbie] Using internet

2002-12-19 Per discussione Gil Katz
OK i played more with Mandrake center and all is fine.
Thanks everyone
Gil
On ה', 2002-12-19 at 17:58, Milos Prudek wrote:
 
 
 Gil Katz wrote:
  OK
  i play a little bit with mandrake center and change the default to the
  network card and i can surf via the Ethernet, but when i try to connect
  via the modem i get error message
  Timeout expired while waiting for the PPP interface to come up!
 
 A possible reason:
 
 ppp will not connect if you have default gateway already set when ppp is 
 asked to connect.
 
 And you probably have default gateway already set.
 
 You must delete your default route to eth0 before you attempt to connect 
 via modem (i.e. via ppp).
 
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RE: [newbie] Using Internet

2002-12-19 Per discussione Franki
can you ping an IP address???

or no ip or domain??

try:

ping 139.130.4.5

If that works, but pinging domains does not.. then you need to add a
nameserver to
/etc/resolv.conf

your ISP should be able to tell you their name server IP...

rgds

Frank

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gil Katz
Sent: Thursday, 19 December 2002 7:33 PM
To: 'Brian Parish'; Linux NewBie (E-mail)
Subject: RE: [newbie] Using Internet


I'm using modem and the modem connects to the internet and from then nothing
And I not using Firewall.

 -Original Message-
From:   Brian Parish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, December 19, 2002 1:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: [newbie] Using Internet

On Thu, 2002-12-19 at 21:53, Gil Katz wrote:
 Hi
 I got mandrake 9.0 and when I connect to the internet I can do nothing I
 mean
 I cant surf I can't send and receive mail I cant even ping.
 Does anyone got an idea?
 Gil

You'll need to give some details on what you have set up.  Is this a
dial-up connection, cable, DSL?  Firewalled?  What seems to work and
what doesn't?  Does it seem to establish a connection?  What's the
output of: ifconfig?

Lots of help available here, but not without something to go on.

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[newbie] [Fwd: Internet connection time]

2002-11-03 Per discussione hgm



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In SuSE KDE I was used to monitor the internet connection status with an
icon from kinternet. This was helpfull as I have no flatrate and was
using Dial-on-demand. Is there something equivalent in Mandrake's
distribution. I really want to know, how long I am connected. Can
somebody please help me.
Regards
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RE: [newbie] [Fwd: Internet connection time]

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[newbie] Partial Internet Access Problem

2002-10-01 Per discussione Tim Wright

Hi

I'm having problems configuring internet access on a new laptop (via a
built in ethernet card / LAN). Details of my configuration are at the
bottom of the message. Any help gratefully received.

Here's what I can do:

  (from my machine)
  telnet to another local machine (inside firewall)
  ping a machine outside the firewall
  ftp to a local machine

  (from a machine outside the firewall)
  open a terminal on my machine via ssh
  ping my machine

Here's what I can't do:

  access the internet (mozilla, konqueror)
  ssh/telnet/ftp to machines outside the firewall

The machine is dual boot and everything works under Windows XP with the
same settings as I entered via the connection wizard in the control
centre. I have a static IP, and the DNS server is definitely working OK.
The network monitoring tool reports that my connection is up.

I'm pretty new to linux so if you need any more information then let me
know.

Any ideas anyone?

Cheers

Tim

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[newbie] Fwd: Internet Connection Sharing

2002-04-20 Per discussione Jason Pearce

Hi crash testers
this is I hope a simple problem but one that has eluded me for days
I have 3 machines on my network
1: mandrake 8.0 that i have been using as a router and workstation
2: win98 (1st addition) machine
3: compaq laptop mdk8.0

recently i have done a clean install on the No1 machine and now the win 98
machine refuses to share the internet connection  ,it seems as though it
doesn't want to talk to the MDK. I have gone through the internet connection
sharing wizard in mdk ,(this has worked flawlessly on other occasions)
using etherape i can see some stuff going on between win98  workgroup
so I can rule out a hardware problem.
IE gets as far as detecting proxy settings and then gives me the old cannot
find server page .
the laptop is surfing fine ,picking up an ip address but this winblows
machine jst doesn't want to play .
this has me stumped i have done every thing the same as I did last install
the only new thing is the lappy but surely this couldn't be stuffing things
up .
any suggestions would be much appreciated .
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[newbie] Low Internet dial up modem connection speed

2002-04-16 Per discussione Ongkie Singgih

Dear friend(s),

I am happy !! .. just finish to install LM8.2 without any single problem, I 
can see movie in VCD format !, I can hear my favorite song from CD !, many 
default simple but interesting games !  the only thing so far that still 
bothering me is my internet connection to my ISP.

I use 57600 V90 rockwell external fax modem, I use Konqueror web browser, I 
can only connect with 19200 Kbps. ... :) my normal day connection before is 
between 44000 - 52000 Kbps. If I try to use faster connection speed, it ends 
up with error message and quit code 16.

Any idea ? what should I do to speed up my internet connection ?

Thanks and regards,
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Re: [newbie] Low Internet dial up modem connection speed

2002-04-16 Per discussione g

Ongkie Singgih wrote:

 I use 57600 V90 rockwell external fax modem, I use Konqueror web browser, I
 can only connect with 19200 Kbps. ... :) my normal day connection before is
 between 44000 - 52000 Kbps. If I try to use faster connection speed, it ends
 up with error message and quit code 16.

sounds like you may have your serial port locked at 19k2.

make/model of modem?

if you are refing '44000-52000' kbps as from report from ms os, that is just
an initial value of connect speed.

 Any idea ? what should I do to speed up my internet connection ?

isdn, dsl, cable, t1.


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[newbie-it] Internet

2002-02-14 Per discussione Pollo

Ho un grosso problema per la navigazione in internet. Non sono ancora
riuscito a trovare un browser veramente completo. Con qualcuno non
funzionano gli applet java, con qualcun'altro non riesco a utilizzare
tutte le funzioni di alcuni siti (tipo inviare sms ecc.), con altri non
posso rivisitare off-line le pagine aperte quando ero on-line ed infine
con qualcuno sono costretto a leggere i testi delle pagine web con una
lente di ingrandimento.

Qualcuno sa darmi qualche dritta in proposito? Io cerco un browser che
mi permetta di aprire tutte le pagine web (anche con applet java) e che
mi permetta di visualizzare off-line le pagine già visitate on-line.

Vi ringrazio. Pollo. 







[newbie] networking internet woes...

2002-02-02 Per discussione Rick [Kitty5]



Hi all,

I have one of those usb alcatel modems, which 
works perfectly.

my problem is that when i have eth0 enabled as 
well, i loose dns resoloution, i can ping the outside world and retreve web 
pages if iknow the ip address of the site. i can ping my internal lan (on 
eth0) fine etc.

disbable eth0 and dns suddenly works

any ideas?

Rick

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Re: [newbie] networking internet woes...

2002-02-02 Per discussione ed tharp

disable routing. you have the default route set to eth0 and not PPP0 
On Saturday 02 February 2002 06:02, you wrote:
 Hi all,

 I have one of those usb alcatel modems, which works perfectly.

 my problem is that when i have eth0 enabled as well, i loose dns
 resoloution, i can ping the outside world and retreve web pages if i know
 the ip address of the site. i can ping my internal lan (on eth0) fine etc.

 disbable eth0 and dns suddenly works

 any ideas?


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Re: [newbie] networking internet woes...

2002-02-02 Per discussione Rick [Kitty5]

 On Saturday 02 February 2002 06:02, you wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  I have one of those usb alcatel modems, which works perfectly.
 
  my problem is that when i have eth0 enabled as well, i loose dns
  resoloution, i can ping the outside world and retreve web pages if i
know
  the ip address of the site. i can ping my internal lan (on eth0) fine
etc.
 
  disbable eth0 and dns suddenly works
 
  any ideas?

 disable routing. you have the default route set to eth0 and not PPP0

and I do that in which file?


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[newbie] Share Internet

2002-01-13 Per discussione Jesse Angell

How do i setup my linux box to be a router so i can share my cable modem to
other computers on the network. I do not have X installed...

Jesse Angell



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Re: [newbie] Share Internet

2002-01-13 Per discussione tester

Jesse Angell wrote:

 How do i setup my linux box to be a router so i can share my cable modem to
 other computers on the network. I do not have X installed...
 
 Jesse Angell
 
 
 
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Well what version linux?

IF it is Mandrake 8.1, just login as or su to root and run

# drakgw

Your other computers should then be configured for dhcp and set

192.168.0.1

as their default gateway.

If it si 8.0 or even 7.2, then do the same.

If it is a kernel with ipchains (kernel 2.2, usually) then do this in 
/etc/rc.local

ipchains -P forward DENY
ipchains -A forward -i eth0 -j MASQ
echo 1  /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward

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Re: [newbie] Share Internet

2002-01-13 Per discussione Dan Butler

This will work, but depending on the speed on your processor you may want to
rethink about this.  I'm speaking from experience.  My machine is only a 450
MHz AMD and I had it set up as the router and firewall for 6 months and one
day I decided to try the LynkSys router for $50.  I wish I had gone with
that set up from get go.  It lightened the work load on my favorite
machine and let me use it more fully for full internet and multimedia
enjoyment.  Just a thought worth thinking about...
Dan B
- Original Message -
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To: Jesse Angell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Share Internet


 Jesse Angell wrote:

  How do i setup my linux box to be a router so i can share my cable modem
to
  other computers on the network. I do not have X installed...
 
  Jesse Angell
 
 
 
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 Well what version linux?

 IF it is Mandrake 8.1, just login as or su to root and run

 # drakgw

 Your other computers should then be configured for dhcp and set

 192.168.0.1

 as their default gateway.

 If it si 8.0 or even 7.2, then do the same.

 If it is a kernel with ipchains (kernel 2.2, usually) then do this in
 /etc/rc.local

 ipchains -P forward DENY
 ipchains -A forward -i eth0 -j MASQ
 echo 1  /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward

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Re: [newbie] Share Internet --error

2002-01-13 Per discussione Jesse Angell

I get an existing firewall configuration his been detected you may need to
do a manual fix later. It starts up and works fine, but when i restart the
server i have to run drakgw again for it to work, what do i do to fix this
as its.. a pain

- Original Message -
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Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Share Internet


 Jesse Angell wrote:

  How do i setup my linux box to be a router so i can share my cable modem
to
  other computers on the network. I do not have X installed...
 
  Jesse Angell
 
 
 
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 Well what version linux?

 IF it is Mandrake 8.1, just login as or su to root and run

 # drakgw

 Your other computers should then be configured for dhcp and set

 192.168.0.1

 as their default gateway.

 If it si 8.0 or even 7.2, then do the same.

 If it is a kernel with ipchains (kernel 2.2, usually) then do this in
 /etc/rc.local

 ipchains -P forward DENY
 ipchains -A forward -i eth0 -j MASQ
 echo 1  /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward

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[newbie] Configure Internet Access (DHCP)

2002-01-02 Per discussione Steve M.

In Mandrake Control Center for LM 8.1 there is a section to configure 
Internet access when in expert mode.  The DHCP Client box pull down menu has 
3 choices, dhcpcd, dhcpxd, and dhcp-client.  What is the difference between 
them?  Is there any advantage/cons to using one over the others?

Thanks

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[newbie-it] Internet

2001-12-16 Per discussione Pollo

Navigando in rete (uso Mdk 8.1 e Mozilla 0.9.4) sono andato sul sito di
trenitalia e mi è comparso il seguente messaggio:

This page contains information of a type (application/x-java-vm)that can
only be viewed with the appropriate Plug-in.

Chiaramente ho subito scaricato i plug-in, che si sarebbero dovuti
installare da soli. Ho riavviato Mozilla ma il messaggio è sempre lo
stesso. Ho controllato le impostazioni riguardanti java e java-script
abilitandoli ma ancora niente.

Qualcuno sa aiutarmi? Chiedo perdono per la mia ignoranza. Grazie. 









[newbie] Connecting internet

2001-11-26 Per discussione Allan Smed

Hi
I have trouble connecting the internet,
I have a Diva T/A ISDN Modem, Mandrake 8.1
When i try to connect, it never respond to the 'ATZ' command.
So here i am.

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Re: [newbie] Configuring Internet Sharing

2001-09-30 Per discussione Frans Ketelaars

Admin wrote:
 
 Hello:
 
 When I attempt to set up interconnect sharing while using the Mandrake
 control Center, I get the following error message:
 
 config file content could not be interpreted.
 
 The error message seems to be self -explanatory, but does anybody know of a
 fix to get over this obstacle?  Thanks...

I had the same problem and by coincidence found that the problem file 
was /etc/sysconfig/inet_sharing. As root try to rename the file:
'mv /etc/sysconfig/inet_sharing /etc/sysconfig/inet_sharing.old' .

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[newbie] Configuring Internet Sharing

2001-09-29 Per discussione Admin

Hello:

When I attempt to set up interconnect sharing while using the Mandrake 
control Center, I get the following error message:

config file content could not be interpreted.

The error message seems to be self -explanatory, but does anybody know of a 
fix to get over this obstacle?  Thanks...

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[newbie] Re Internet sharing

2001-09-09 Per discussione freeman

I have setup the current version of internet sharing using the gui settings in 
Drakeconf(mandrake 8.0).  I must say it went very smoothly and I have not had any 
problems until recently.  My server is sharing my @home connection to a couple of 
winME and win2000 machines and I wanted to set up my mail for these units.  I am 
unable to locate the mail server or the news servers on the windows machines.  I am 
able to get the servers from the mandrake box though.  I them went on and turned off 
all firewalling, but it made no difference.  

I hope there is a way to connect to these servers using the internet sharing method 
because I cannot find the *.conf files for ipchains like in the previous versions 
(mandrake 6-7).  If any one has any suggestion on how to get it to work it would be 
greatly appreciated

Best Regards

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R: [newbie-it] internet via satellite

2001-07-28 Per discussione kokkix


 Se e' come Netsystem siamo a posto.:-(((

Non credo che sia come Netsystem, perchè sono partiti più o meno insieme, ma
tuttora sono ancora in fase beta (cioè sono andati molto + cauti con
promesse di megabit); inoltre fanno parte di una società seria come
Eutelsat, e il servizio a cui mirano, oltre al privato sono le aziende.

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[newbie] Re: Internet security + Harddisk optimise danger + Wheel mouse.

2001-04-20 Per discussione Charles Darcy

Thanks Dennis and sorry for my late reply. I think my list
subscription has gone askew as I've received no list mail and have had
to check the archives for replies.

Anyway, Bastille is just what I was looking for. It appears very
good
and provides whats seems comprehensive security for many areas of the
system
which I hadn't considered.

Do you suppose there is any value in using portsentry, now that I
have
installed Bastille ?


As far as the my other problems go, I have my wheel mouse working,
and
my hard disk hasn't crashed, so I'm feeling pretty hopeful.


Thanks for your help,


regards,

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[newbie-it] Internet e rete...

2001-03-23 Per discussione Danielli Andrea Alessandro


Ciao a tutti,
ho un problema.Ho sempre installato LM7.2 in versione da sviluppatore (anche se non lo 
sono ancora) e personalizzato la scelta dei pacchetti.
E tutto era ok, rete e internet.E riuscivo a navigare anche dal client WinNT.
Ho provato a reinstallare tutto scegliendo la versione Server (invece che 
sviluppatore) e aggiungendo i pacchetti che mi interessavano (come il ppp che vai a 
sapere perch nella versione Server non viene installato). Non funzia pi una ceppa! 
Rete ok ma internet nulla. O meglio mi collego al ISP col modem (prende la lineaetc 
etc etc...) ma non mi trova nessun indirizzo n i nomi n IP#...allora ho provato a 
installare la versione Workstation e ad aggiungere i servizi server che 
volevo...stesso problema...sembra che non veda il modem come via d'uscita, intendo 
dire il modem ha tutte le lucette della connessione accese ma quelle Rx/TX sono sempre 
spente...
Qualcuno sa aiutarmi!?!??!

Grazie comunque.
Andrea.





[newbie] Smoother internet connection process?

2001-03-05 Per discussione Han2097

Greetings.  I have an @Home cable modem connection.  In order to access the internet 
from Linux, I must go into terminal, su to root, and issue the "dhcpcd" command.  How 
could I possibly bypass this?

Thanks!




Re: [newbie] Smoother internet connection process?

2001-03-05 Per discussione Tom Badran

On Monday 05 March 2001  9:07 pm, you wrote:
 Greetings.  I have an @Home cable modem connection.  In order to access the
 internet from Linux, I must go into terminal, su to root, and issue the
 "dhcpcd" command.  How could I possibly bypass this?

 Thanks!

You really should not need dhcpd running, this is the daemon to run a dhcp 
server, not client (i thought, if im wrong i sound like an idiot). Im not 
sure how cable modems work, but i think they are treated like normal nics, so 
in your netconf just activate dhcp for eth0 (might be bootp now)
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Re: [newbie] Smoother internet connection process?

2001-03-05 Per discussione Shane Roppel
I would add it to your cron, as Sridhar has suggested in the past. After I add the dhcpcd command to my cron to run on a regular basis (ie. every five min) it no longer presented me with a problem. I always have the network no matter how many times I reboot. A good way to add it to the cron, again as Sridhar has suggested, is with 'Kcron'. Just run it from a terminal in KDE. - Original Message - From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:Monday, March 05, 2001 7:55 PM To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[newbie] Smoother internet connection process? Greetings. I have an @Home cable modem connection. In order to access the internet from Linux, I must go into terminal, su to root, and issue the "dhcpcd" command. How could I possibly bypass this?Thanks!  Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.


Re: [newbie] No Internet access 2

2001-02-22 Per discussione DRX

  Yes.  /etc/resolv.conf included only two lines, and those are:

 search localdomain
 nameserver 212.109.1.50


  The "nameserver" line contains the correct address to my DNS.  Perhaps
 it shouldn't read "search localdomain" though?  Could this be the problem?
==
Yes, yes!  Change the search line to
search your isp

 I hope your isp meant that I should write my ISP's DNS on the
"search" line as well, because I don't know my ISP's IP number.  I have
never needed to know my ISP's IP number since everything has worked anyway.

Also, see if you can find a second dns# and add a second "nameserver" line
HTH,
Mike

 I added the DNS for another ISP I could have used (since I have an
account there as well), but it didn't work anyway.  Finally I added a new
account, and set this for the other ISP, and that worked!  The problem is
not with the ISP though, because this is sent through the first, the
original, ISP.

 DRX






Re: [newbie] No Internet access 2

2001-02-20 Per discussione DRX

Can you post the contents of /etc/resolv.conf ?
Mike
--

 Yes.  /etc/resolv.conf included only two lines, and those are:

search localdomain
nameserver 212.109.1.50


 The "nameserver" line contains the correct address to my DNS.  Perhaps
it shouldn't read "search localdomain" though?  Could this be the problem?

 DRX

 most often you will need to correctly set your ISP's DNS Server in whatever
 program you use to dial-in

  I use something called "kppp."  On the desktop of KDE this is reached
 by clicking on an icon named "Internet."  As I stated in my previous
 postings, the DNS is still the same as it was when I could get out on the
 Internet, and yes, it is correct (the settings are the same as on this
 computer, and I can get out on the net with this -- running another OS).

   DRX
==







Re: [newbie] No Internet access 2

2001-02-20 Per discussione DRX

If you setup your "/home" directory to be on a seperate partition, the
damage of reinstalling is minimal. You will not lose anyfiles that you
have placed into this directory but you should not choose to **format**
this directory when the partitioner asks you for this action. Format "/"
and mayber "/boot" if they are seperate and you should be ok.

 Yes, but I will lose all new scrips and programs installed in /usr, as
well as the users, won't I?

 I was hoping that there would be a less drastic way to regain Internet
access.  I have always heard that what makes Linux so great is that it
consists of independent modules which are easy to configure and exchange
for other modules, while still keeping the same system.  To use brute force
and reinstall the whole system because of a malfunction in one of these
modules goes completely against this idea, doesn't it?  It feels a bit like
scrapping your car and getting a new one just because the ashtray is full.

  DRX
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 Try and configure what I did, nothing worked. When doing a fresh
 install everything worked fine (not always) a sort of a lottery:o(

  So you're saying that I should reinstall the whole Mandrake CD again?
 Erase the whole system and start from scratch?  I guess I'll have to
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 solution.

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Re: [newbie] No Internet access 2

2001-02-20 Per discussione Michael Scottaline


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 Can you post the contents of /etc/resolv.conf ?
 Mike
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  Yes.  /etc/resolv.conf included only two lines, and those are:
 
 search localdomain
 nameserver 212.109.1.50
 
 
  The "nameserver" line contains the correct address to my DNS.  Perhaps
 it shouldn't read "search localdomain" though?  Could this be the problem?
==
Yes, yes!  Change the search line to 
search your isp

Also, see if you can find a second dns# and add a second "nameserver" line
HTH,
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Re: [newbie] Disappeared Internet access

2001-02-19 Per discussione L. H. LOO

wvdial from www.worldvisions.ca

At 06-02-2001 -0600, you wrote:
DRX,

I really havent had much luck with kppp so you might try to run a script
to start the init of the modem

try to find a prog called wcdial at freshmeat.net



Perseus

On Sat, 17 Feb 2001, DRX
wrote:

   The modem beeps the way it's supposed to, and the little window tells
  me that it is connecting me to the Internet, but when it is finished I
  can't get to anywhere in Netscape.  It tells me that every address is
  unknown.  I cannot ping anything either.  The command ping gives the reply
  that the address is unknown, no matter whom I try to ping.
 
   It's been a couple of months since I used Linux, but when I did, I had
  no trouble getting out on the Internet.  I have checked the "kppp
  configuration" settings, and they are correct -- they are the same they
  were a couple of months ago, when everything worked just fine.  I can't
  figure this out.  Does anybody have any suggestions?  I am grateful for all
  help.
  DRX
 
 
 
 
 





Re: [newbie] No Internet access 2

2001-02-18 Per discussione DRX

 if you're abroad :o( .) a few times, inclluding Suse installs.
Try and configure what I did, nothing worked. When doing a fresh
install everything worked fine (not always) a sort of a lottery:o(

Being logged in at the isp apparently had nought to do with it,
it's internal that's for sure.


 So you're saying that I should reinstall the whole Mandrake CD again?
Erase the whole system and start from scratch?  I guess I'll have to
eventually, but I was kind of hoping that there might be a less extreme
solution.

  DRX
ciao,


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Re: [newbie] No Internet access 2

2001-02-18 Per discussione Altoine B.

DRX wrote:
 
  if you're abroad :o( .) a few times, inclluding Suse installs.
 Try and configure what I did, nothing worked. When doing a fresh
 install everything worked fine (not always) a sort of a lottery:o(
 
 Being logged in at the isp apparently had nought to do with it,
 it's internal that's for sure.
 
  So you're saying that I should reinstall the whole Mandrake CD again?
 Erase the whole system and start from scratch?  I guess I'll have to
 eventually, but I was kind of hoping that there might be a less extreme
 solution.
 
   DRX
 ciao,

If you setup your "/home" directory to be on a seperate partition, the
damage of reinstalling is minimal. You will not lose anyfiles that you
have placed into this directory but you should not choose to **format**
this directory when the partitioner asks you for this action. Format "/"
and mayber "/boot" if they are seperate and you should be ok.

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Re: [newbie] No Internet access 2

2001-02-18 Per discussione H.J.Bathoorn

On Sunday 18 February 2001 21:07, you wrote:
 DRX wrote:
   if you're abroad :o( .) a few times, inclluding Suse
   installs. Try and configure what I did, nothing worked. When
   doing a fresh install everything worked fine (not always) a
   sort of a lottery:o(
  
  Being logged in at the isp apparently had nought to do with
   it, it's internal that's for sure.
 
   So you're saying that I should reinstall the whole
  Mandrake CD again? Erase the whole system and start from
  scratch?  I guess I'll have to eventually, but I was kind of
  hoping that there might be a less extreme solution.
 
DRX
 
  ciao,

 If you setup your "/home" directory to be on a seperate
 partition, the damage of reinstalling is minimal. You will not
 lose anyfiles that you have placed into this directory but you
 should not choose to **format** this directory when the
 partitioner asks you for this action. Format "/" and mayber
 "/boot" if they are seperate and you should be ok.

Very true but also a way to keep configuration-faults 'alive' 
especialy on the xserver side.
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Re: [newbie] No Internet access 2

2001-02-18 Per discussione Altoine B.

"H.J.Bathoorn" wrote:
 
 On Sunday 18 February 2001 21:07, you wrote:
  DRX wrote:
if you're abroad :o( .) a few times, inclluding Suse
installs. Try and configure what I did, nothing worked. When
doing a fresh install everything worked fine (not always) a
sort of a lottery:o(
   
   Being logged in at the isp apparently had nought to do with
it, it's internal that's for sure.
  
So you're saying that I should reinstall the whole
   Mandrake CD again? Erase the whole system and start from
   scratch?  I guess I'll have to eventually, but I was kind of
   hoping that there might be a less extreme solution.
  
 DRX
  
   ciao,
 
  If you setup your "/home" directory to be on a seperate
  partition, the damage of reinstalling is minimal. You will not
  lose anyfiles that you have placed into this directory but you
  should not choose to **format** this directory when the
  partitioner asks you for this action. Format "/" and mayber
  "/boot" if they are seperate and you should be ok.
 
 Very true but also a way to keep configuration-faults 'alive'
 especialy on the xserver side.

That is true if you have placed configuration information into your home
directory that directly affects your system hardware to work. It is my
impression that "/home" stores "personal" information and configuration.
I have been upgrading betas and what not for over fourteen months and I
haven't had any problems with sparing my "/home" directory. If anything,
that is the only directory that needs to be spared unless you plan to
switch the type of filesystem that it is under (ie ext2 converted to
Reiserfs), then you would need to backup.

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[newbie] Disappeared Internet access

2001-02-17 Per discussione DRX

 The modem beeps the way it's supposed to, and the little window tells
me that it is connecting me to the Internet, but when it is finished I
can't get to anywhere in Netscape.  It tells me that every address is
unknown.  I cannot ping anything either.  The command ping gives the reply
that the address is unknown, no matter whom I try to ping.

 It's been a couple of months since I used Linux, but when I did, I had
no trouble getting out on the Internet.  I have checked the "kppp
configuration" settings, and they are correct -- they are the same they
were a couple of months ago, when everything worked just fine.  I can't
figure this out.  Does anybody have any suggestions?  I am grateful for all
help.
DRX






Re: [newbie] Disappeared Internet access

2001-02-17 Per discussione John Rye

On Sat, 17 Feb 2001 11:33:08 +0100
DRX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   The modem beeps the way it's supposed to, and the little window
  tells
  me that it is connecting me to the Internet, but when it is finished I
  can't get to anywhere in Netscape.  It tells me that every address is
  unknown.  I cannot ping anything either.  The command ping gives the
  reply
  that the address is unknown, no matter whom I try to ping.
  

Have you checked that you have a correct 'homepage' entry in Netscape, I
found that problem after one of my installs.

Also check if you have proxys enabled, could be in there too.


   It's been a couple of months since I used Linux, but when I did, I
  had
  no trouble getting out on the Internet.  I have checked the "kppp
  configuration" settings, and they are correct -- they are the same they
  were a couple of months ago, when everything worked just fine.  I can't
  figure this out.  Does anybody have any suggestions?  I am grateful for
  all
  help.
  DRX

Cheers

John  


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Re: [newbie] Disappeared Internet access

2001-02-17 Per discussione Ed Tharp

most often you will need to correctly set your ISP's DNS Server in whatever
program you use to dial-in
- Original Message -
From: "DRX" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 5:33 AM
Subject: [newbie] Disappeared Internet access


  The modem beeps the way it's supposed to, and the little window tells
 me that it is connecting me to the Internet, but when it is finished I
 can't get to anywhere in Netscape.  It tells me that every address is
 unknown.  I cannot ping anything either.  The command ping gives the reply
 that the address is unknown, no matter whom I try to ping.

  It's been a couple of months since I used Linux, but when I did, I
had
 no trouble getting out on the Internet.  I have checked the "kppp
 configuration" settings, and they are correct -- they are the same they
 were a couple of months ago, when everything worked just fine.  I can't
 figure this out.  Does anybody have any suggestions?  I am grateful for
all
 help.
 DRX









Re: [newbie] Disappeared Internet access

2001-02-17 Per discussione Dennis Myers

On Saturday 17 February 2001 04:33, you wrote:
  The modem beeps the way it's supposed to, and the little window tells
 me that it is connecting me to the Internet, but when it is finished I
 can't get to anywhere in Netscape.  It tells me that every address is
 unknown.  I cannot ping anything either.  The command ping gives the reply
 that the address is unknown, no matter whom I try to ping.

  It's been a couple of months since I used Linux, but when I did, I had
 no trouble getting out on the Internet.  I have checked the "kppp
 configuration" settings, and they are correct -- they are the same they
 were a couple of months ago, when everything worked just fine.  I can't
 figure this out.  Does anybody have any suggestions?  I am grateful for all
 help.
 DRX
Take a look at the DNS setup in LinuxConfig. I have seen it stick a temporary 
address in there, instead of the ISP name server and hold on to it if you had 
a bad shutdown or forgot to shut down the modem before shutting down the 
system. If it shows two or three temporary xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx addresses change 
them back to your ISP dial up addresses and then try connecting.  Luck,
-- 
Dennis M. registered linux user # 180842




[newbie] No Internet access 1

2001-02-17 Per discussione DRX

Have you checked that you have a correct 'homepage' entry in Netscape, I
found that problem after one of my installs.

 It is set to "Browser starts with Blank page," and the home page the
Home page button is set to is http://home.netscape.com  I don't see how an
error here could affect the ping thing though.

Also check if you have proxys enabled, could be in there too.

 There are no proxys enabled as far as I can tell.  If there were,
would I see that in the "DrakConf" utility, or should look somewhere else?
I know that I have never knowingly enabled any proxys.

  DRX






[newbie] No Internet access 2

2001-02-17 Per discussione DRX

most often you will need to correctly set your ISP's DNS Server in whatever
program you use to dial-in

 I use something called "kppp."  On the desktop of KDE this is reached
by clicking on an icon named "Internet."  As I stated in my previous
postings, the DNS is still the same as it was when I could get out on the
Internet, and yes, it is correct (the settings are the same as on this
computer, and I can get out on the net with this -- running another OS).
Thank you for your advice though.  The DNS entry was the first thing I
checked, and apparently it wasn't completely wrong to do so.

  DRX

 I have checked the "kppp
 configuration" settings, and they are correct -- they are the same they
 were a couple of months ago, when everything worked just fine.  I can't
 figure this out.  Does anybody have any suggestions?  I am grateful for
all
 help.
 DRX







[newbie] No Internet access 3

2001-02-17 Per discussione DRX

Take a look at the DNS setup in LinuxConfig. I have seen it stick a temporary
address in there, instead of the ISP name server and hold on to it if you had
a bad shutdown or forgot to shut down the modem before shutting down the
system. If it shows two or three temporary xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx addresses change
them back to your ISP dial up addresses and then try connecting.  Luck,
--

 This sounded promising, but no such luck I'm afraid.  Assuming that
"LinuxConfig" is the same as "Linuxconf 1.16" which is reached through the
"DrakConf" utility in KDE, the only DNS entry to be found there is the same
as in the "kppp" thing, and it is only there because I entered it yesterday
just to see if this would help any in getting out on the 'net.  It didn't.

  DRX
Dennis M. registered linux user # 180842

On Saturday 17 February 2001 04:33, you wrote:
  The modem beeps the way it's supposed to, and the little window tells
 me that it is connecting me to the Internet, but when it is finished I
 can't get to anywhere in Netscape.  It tells me that every address is
 unknown.  I cannot ping anything either.  The command ping gives the reply
 that the address is unknown, no matter whom I try to ping.

  It's been a couple of months since I used Linux, but when I did, I had
 no trouble getting out on the Internet.  I have checked the "kppp
 configuration" settings, and they are correct -- they are the same they
 were a couple of months ago, when everything worked just fine.  I can't
 figure this out.  Does anybody have any suggestions?  I am grateful for all
 help.
 DRX






Re: [newbie] No Internet access 2

2001-02-17 Per discussione H.J.Bathoorn

On Saturday 17 February 2001 21:02, you wrote:
 most often you will need to correctly set your ISP's DNS Server
  in whatever program you use to dial-in

  I use something called "kppp."  On the desktop of KDE this
 is reached by clicking on an icon named "Internet."  As I stated
 in my previous postings, the DNS is still the same as it was
 when I could get out on the Internet, and yes, it is correct
 (the settings are the same as on this computer, and I can get
 out on the net with this -- running another OS). Thank you for
 your advice though.  The DNS entry was the first thing I
 checked, and apparently it wasn't completely wrong to do so.

  
 DRX

  I have checked the "kppp
  configuration" settings, and they are correct -- they are the
  same they were a couple of months ago, when everything worked
  just fine.  I can't figure this out.  Does anybody have any
  suggestions?  I am grateful for
 
 all
 
  help.
   
DRX

I had a similar problem aboard ship, getting my mail with kppp and 
a gsm (that's talking $$'s
 if you're abroad :o( .) a few times, inclluding Suse installs. 
Try and configure what I did, nothing worked. When doing a fresh 
install everything worked fine (not always) a sort of a lottery:o(
Testing by typing www.awellknownadres.somewhere in the KDE 
filemanager (nowadays konqueror) gave quick and good evidence 
whether the connection was there.
Being logged in at the isp apparently had nought to do with it, 
it's internal that's for sure.
ciao,


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Re: [newbie] Disappeared Internet access

2001-02-17 Per discussione andrew

oops I meant to type wvdial instead of wcdial hehe sorry


Perseus

On Tue, 6 Feb
2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 DRX,
 
 I really havent had much luck with kppp so you might try to run a script 
 to start the init of the modem
 
 try to find a prog called wcdial at freshmeat.net
 
 
 
 Perseus
 
 On Sat, 17 Feb 2001, DRX
 wrote:
 
   The modem beeps the way it's supposed to, and the little window tells
  me that it is connecting me to the Internet, but when it is finished I
  can't get to anywhere in Netscape.  It tells me that every address is
  unknown.  I cannot ping anything either.  The command ping gives the reply
  that the address is unknown, no matter whom I try to ping.
  
   It's been a couple of months since I used Linux, but when I did, I had
  no trouble getting out on the Internet.  I have checked the "kppp
  configuration" settings, and they are correct -- they are the same they
  were a couple of months ago, when everything worked just fine.  I can't
  figure this out.  Does anybody have any suggestions?  I am grateful for all
  help.
  DRX
  
  
  
  
  
 
 
 
 





[newbie] Broken Internet connection

2001-02-13 Per discussione Don Mayhew


 Unable to re-establish my internet connection.

 My initial install of LM 7.2 setup internet OK.
 So I know the hardware/modem is not the problem.

 While messing with cups to try to get user access
 to my printer, I broke LM badly - flashing monitor,
 no NTLDR or boot on startup, boot floppy just gets
 back to flashing monitor - so I used the CDs to
 do an update ( 2 hours +  on this 166Hz/64MB machine).

 The update got me back to where I could use DrakConf
 to setup my ISP connect info.  But many tries with
 various combinations of info never got a beep out
 of the modem - and no messages that I could find.

 So I tried the manual for kppp.  But I could not find
 any help in where to start, or how to troubleshoot.

 Next I tried the ISP-Hookup-HOWTO.
 It led me thru a verification of files:

  /etc/hosts.deny
ALL: ALL

  /etc/hosts.accept
ALL: LOCAL

  /etc/HOSTNAME
Don

  /etc/hosts
127.0.0.0   localhost
0.0.0.0 donm

  /etc/networks
loopback  127.0.0.0
localnet   0.0.0.0

  /etc/ppp/pap-secrets
donm * passwd ( where passwd = my ISP passwd)

  /etc/ppp/chatscript
#this file did not exist so I built it as 
#instructed in the HOWTO
TIMEOUT 5
"" ATZ
OK ATDT12345678
ABORT "NO CARRIER"
ABORT BUSY
ABORT "NO DIALTONE"
ABORT WAITING
TIMEOUT 45
CONNECT ""
TIMEOUT 5
   
  The above was implemented as root with cmd:

exec pppd connect \
'chat -v -f /etc/ppp/chatscript' \
-detach crtscts modem defaultroute \
user donm
/dev/modem 38400

   This gets as far as showing ATZ on the screen
  and then error: /dev/modem  permission denied

  I tried all permission settings on /dev/modem
  and its link to /dev/ttyS1 but could never get
  past this error.  The first char in the permission
  strings for /dev files are not normal files and
  may prohibit direct access. But the HOWTO script
  says do it. I tried chmod, chgrp, chown to all
  possibilities but never got past the error.

  After a day of this I need help !

  Don




Re: [newbie] slow internet connection

2000-11-27 Per discussione patrick

On Sun, 26 Nov 2000, you wrote:

  I have recently got my computer to connect to the internet after a month
 of agrivation trying to get it to work.  Rather annoying when you find
 out all you had to do was change the authorisation protocol.  Anyways
 now that i can connect i am experience slow connections and was
 wondering if anyone new what the problem might be and how to rectify it.
 Any help here would be greatly appreciated

-


check to see what your kppp speed is set to. if u have a 56k modem
set it to i think its 15500. set it faster than your modem/
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[newbie] slow internet connection

2000-11-26 Per discussione Keldmar



I have recently got my computer to connect to the 
internet after a month of agrivation trying to get it to work. Rather 
annoying when you find out all you had to do was change the authorisation 
protocol. Anyways now that i can connect i am experience slow connections 
and was wondering if anyone new what the problem might be and how to rectify 
it. Any help here would be greatly appreciated


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