RE: The list?
A? April Fools? From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 7:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: The list? Now I have to wonder if the lists were being shutdown at all and if Stu's email was just a ploy to get folks over to his own list. (which he never left instructions on how to do) On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: Pong. Need some popcorn... On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 8:56 AM, James Kerr cluster...@gmail.commailto:cluster...@gmail.com wrote: Ping? Sent from my MK-19 grenade launcher. On May 1, 2013 8:35 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.commailto:scaes...@caesare.com wrote: Hesienberg's 8-Ball says: Uncertain -sc From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:dhampsh...@gmail.commailto:dhampsh...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 8:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: The list? Is Schrodenger's cat subscribed to the list? On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.commailto:mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Ryan Finnesey r...@finnesey.commailto:r...@finnesey.com wrote: I hate to jinks it but it seem the list is still up and running? No. We're all a figment of your imagination. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
Maybe he was thinking of the vision levels of the older members of the list. From: Steve Ens [stevey...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 10:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION Perhaps if you post in a larger font, they will listen more closely to what you have to say On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 11:48 AM, C.E. Gene Connor cege...@gmail.commailto:cege...@gmail.com wrote: Since this is the last day of the month and most likely the end of this list. Not really the end for good? Since one of the members here has offered to take on the task of making sure all the list members involved with the old one. Still have a place to give and get free advice. I was going to let this whole screw over job of the list go. But, as all who know of me. I’m a very open and straight forward on my outlooks and what I have to say! I realize it is your sponsored list run on your servers. And you have overhead to make it all work. And if you choose to take it down? That is fine for me. But, you also must realize that by not having enough “balls” Sorry ladies of the list. To come forward and give the list members any info or updates on what to expect. Is right down rude and uncalled for! What gets me the most is GFI never had any problems in the past posting to the list about new products or ways for them to make money? But, I guess you have forgotten a lot of the list members not only bought/used or pushed your products to places they worked at or even friends etc. And have helped you to get to the size you are now. As for myself I have no interest in your products and plan to share what has happened here and the way you have right out. CUT OFF the hand that has helped feed you for years! I would also like to thank Stu ,Alex and the rest of the old sunbelt group for the many years of list and personal support they have given to me and others members etc. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Free, Bob r...@pge.commailto:r...@pge.com wrote: You're right, the older I get the more it annoys me... that brings up probably the best stat to solve this whole mystery: age Turn your monitor upside down and this will be easier to read in context -Original Message- From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.commailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 8:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION And, that brings up probably the best stat to solve this whole mystery: age. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 10:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 7:11 AM, Doug Hampshire dhampsh...@gmail.commailto:dhampsh...@gmail.com wrote: Bottom posting: Something abandoned a long time ago by everyone except Kurt. It's annoying as heck on a PC and makes reading threads on a mobile device significantly more difficult. But then again it's a free country and if Kurt wants to continue to write a paper check, make the entry into the checkbook register, and update the running balance while five people stand behind him in line at the grocery store so be it. But I also have the right to glare at him and make snide comments about those fancy new debit cards all the cool kids are using these days. No checks for me. Cash only - can't forge a $20 bill in my name. Too risky. You might want to check with Ben before characterizing my posting habits as unique to me. Also, portable devices for email - don't like 'em. Too darn hard to work with and see the messages on. Get off my lawn. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin PGE is committed to protecting our customers' privacy. To learn more, please visit http://www.pge.com/about/company/privacy/customer/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Gene C.
RE: Slightly OT: RE: Migrate DHCP from 2003 to 2008 R2
Three years? Wow. I ran Bluecats a while ago and the conversion was actually pretty easy. We had a DNS server for both windows and *nix and the dhcp aspect annoyed the *nix people. We did eventually switch to infoblox when they came in with a deal which was too good to ignore. -Original Message- From: Senter, John [mailto:john.sen...@etrade.com] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 10:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Slightly OT: RE: Migrate DHCP from 2003 to 2008 R2 Good luck with the BLuecat products. We have been working with them for a couple of years with the end goal of having the Windows DNS and DHCP in that system. And after 3 years it has not happened and looks like management is done with trying. So for now it all stays on the Windows side, and now that Windows 2012 has a true DHCP failover I do not see a need to move it away. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 1:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Slightly OT: RE: Migrate DHCP from 2003 to 2008 R2 If Webster doesn't, you'll find some guys with experience with the Infoblox stuff on the ActiveDirectory list - activedir.org It's a very worthwhile list, with a lower noise ratio than this one, and some really bright guys, including a couple who inhabit this list. (including MBS and Kradel) Kurt On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 7:38 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: Any thoughts on the InfoBlox appliances? A 3-letter gov agency we provide service to is considering them... -sc -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 3:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Slightly OT: RE: Migrate DHCP from 2003 to 2008 R2 I just helped move a company from Bluecat DHCP devices to Server 2008 R2 DHCP! They hated the Bluecat devices and they were a real PITA to get zone data out of. Thanks Webster -Original Message- From: Guyer, Don [mailto:dgu...@che.org] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 2:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Slightly OT: RE: Migrate DHCP from 2003 to 2008 R2 It's also a good excuse/time to clean everything up. : ) We're currently moving from Windows-based DHCP to Bluecat devices. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Office 2013 retail tied to single PCs
Indeed. Adobe does that. We went looking for photoshop for my wife and her new Mac. It was about $1000. You could get it from the cloud for a monthly fee with an annual commitment. Price was about the same as the old cost and they promise instant patching. It's a sweet deal for adobe. You are basically buying it every year and you are paying them for you to QA the software. -Original Message- From: Ben M. Schorr [mailto:b...@rolandschorr.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 10:00 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Office 2013 retail tied to single PCs It's true, the license is now non-transferrable. Part of their efforts to push everybody to the subscription-based plans, no doubt. Ben M. Schorr Chief Executive Officer Roland Schorr Tower www.rolandschorr.com -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 10:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Office 2013 retail tied to single PCs Reportedly, the licensing for Office 2013 FPP (Full Packaged Product, AKA retail box) has changed. Microsoft reportedly says it's only licensed for the first PC you install it on. Old PC dies, you buy a new PC? Better buy a new copy of Office, too. So it's like OEM, but at retail pricing. http://www.theage.com.au/technology/technology-news/does-your-copy-of-office-2013-die-with-your-computer-20130208-2e3a1.html In addition to being evil and rude, I think this may violate the doctrine of first sale, making it an illegal provision in some jurisdictions. But if Microsoft won't activate your install, that leaves court as an alternative. Maybe we'll switch to LibreOffice for 2020. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Office 2013 retail tied to single PCs
I wonder how long before the OS is subscription based? -Original Message- From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 10:13 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Office 2013 retail tied to single PCs It's pushing some people to a subscription based plan all right... Just not always Microsoft's. -Original Message- From: Ben M. Schorr [mailto:b...@rolandschorr.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 12:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Office 2013 retail tied to single PCs It's true, the license is now non-transferrable. Part of their efforts to push everybody to the subscription-based plans, no doubt. Ben M. Schorr Chief Executive Officer Roland Schorr Tower www.rolandschorr.com -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 10:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Office 2013 retail tied to single PCs Reportedly, the licensing for Office 2013 FPP (Full Packaged Product, AKA retail box) has changed. Microsoft reportedly says it's only licensed for the first PC you install it on. Old PC dies, you buy a new PC? Better buy a new copy of Office, too. So it's like OEM, but at retail pricing. http://www.theage.com.au/technology/technology-news/does-your-copy-of-office -2013-die-with-your-computer-20130208-2e3a1.html In addition to being evil and rude, I think this may violate the doctrine of first sale, making it an illegal provision in some jurisdictions. But if Microsoft won't activate your install, that leaves court as an alternative. Maybe we'll switch to LibreOffice for 2020. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Backup to cloud?
You might consider where they live as well. A large scale problem where several companies are trying to get at their data? I remember running into that after loma prieta. The DR Company didn't have room to handle all the companies. Granted that was pre-cloud days but are they up to handling several at once? -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 10:26 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup to cloud? +1. It's the Recovery Time Objective (RTO) here that concerns me. Here's a thought, maybe I should ask the client what's tolerable. Why I didn’t think of that first... Dave -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 10:11 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Backup to cloud? Someone once said something I now say: I don't care about backups. I care about restores. Of course, that includes time to restore, as well as integrity of restore. AFAICT, backups to the cloud, absent a local copy, aren't worth a whole bunch, if my 7tb file server falls over. Kurt On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Ben M. Schorr b...@rolandschorr.com wrote: That’s the dirty little secret of cloud backups – restore windows can be ENORMOUS, especially if the client is sitting behind a 3x1 Internet connection. Some cloud services will (for an extra fee) overnight a DVD of your data to you in case you need to do a full restore. Still… As for liabilities – I’d probably consult with your lawyers (not the client) to see what they think. I’d guess you’d need to have a pretty solid contract with them laying out what you are, and aren’t responsible for along with SLAs. Then you’ll want a good professional liability insurance policy to cover you for those things you are responsible for. Ben M. Schorr Chief Executive Officer Roland Schorr Tower www.rolandschorr.com / www.officeforlawyers.com / www.onenote-tips.com Member: American Bar Association - 01473703 Author: The Lawyer's Guide to Microsoft Outlook 2010: http://goo.gl.HWqKc Author: The Lawyer’s Guide to Microsoft Word 2010: http://tinyurl.com/abaword2010 From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 10:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Backup to cloud? Does backup to cloud even matter if the time to retrieve it spans 20+ hours? If I were to consider hosting a clients’ backups at my location, where do I go to find what liabilities I need to worry about. Coincidentally the client in mind is a law firm of all places… David Lum Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: On a lighter note for a Friday, Passed my CISA exam
What he said! ☺ From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 11:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: On a lighter note for a Friday, Passed my CISA exam Congrats EZ! John W. Cook Network Operations Manager Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 2:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: On a lighter note for a Friday, Passed my CISA exam Just got the official email that I passed my CISA exam, so I guess another Certification on the title and looking forward to the auditing work that comes with it. Z Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization ezi...@lifespan.orgmailto:ezi...@lifespan.org This electronic message and any attachments may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If you are reading this message, but are not the intended recipient, nor an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you are strictly prohibited from copying, printing, forwarding or otherwise disseminating this communication. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to the message. Then, delete the message from your computer. Thank you. [Description: Description: Lifespan] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin inline: image001.jpg
RE: Java 7 patch 13 out...
O So there is only one exploit! It's Groundhog Day! Patch the exploit. It's Groundhog Day! Patch the exploit. ... From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 2:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Java 7 patch 13 out... Exploit to follow tomorrow, which is Groundhog Day. :-) On Friday, February 1, 2013, S Powell wrote: no that's it... i'm off to update... - Sub ubi semper ubi ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.comjavascript:; with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: PC/server management
What kind of a footprint does Kace introduce to a system? I have many engineers who are literally cycle counters and will notice just about anything installed and start complaining about wasted resources. They run the servers hard and like them lean as possible. The Kace people have been after me to allow them on the engineering servers. From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 10:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: PC/server management I just had the Kace rep in my office yesterday afternoon and it seems like a pretty comprehensive product. I am going to check out the Landesk lunch and learn later this month as well. On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:32 AM, Tom Miller tmil...@sfgtrust.commailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com wrote: Folks, Looking for recommendations for pc/server management (Windows devices only at this time). At my last job I used Kace appliances and they were great. I am looking at those this time but thought I'd ask the list for additional suggestions. At my new job we have System Center Essentials 2007. It's not so good but it is old and I understand that product is EOL. Looking for: patch distribution/management, inventorying, reporting, ability to create granular groups based on factors like IP, machine type, AD memberships, OU location, software deployment, and remote control (not super important since we already own a product for this). Embedded help desk, even if basic, would be a bonus. This place doesn't have one currently. This would be for about 350 nodes. Can be appliance, vmware machine, or even hosted. As long as it does what I need. Thanks, Tom ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Personal IT Blog?
Sure. I started one mainly to keep track of things which fall out of my brain or weird issues somebody else might also have. The hard part is just to get it going. The more you do it; the easier it gets. Also, don’t get discouraged if you don’t have hits. They do happen. Especially, if you write about things which are hot. Obviously, there are company issues to be concerned about. Might not hurt to see if they have a policy about information sharing…. Once you get it going; spam us. ☺ From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 7:44 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Personal IT Blog? I'm thinking that blog.pimphacker.comhttp://blog.pimphacker.com has a certain cachet to it. :-) On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Jon D rekcahp...@gmail.commailto:rekcahp...@gmail.com wrote: I was kicking around the idea of starting a personal IT blog to keep track of the things I work on. Seems like if nothing else it would be a nice feather in the cap when it comes time to look for a new job. I'm curious if anyone else does this? If anyone does do it, anything to think about? Obviously any screenshots would need server names, IPs, etc blanked out ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: NetApp CIFS, Windows Servers and Send unencrypted password to third-party SMB servers
What exactly are you trying to do? The filers will appear in AD as server. Mapping a windows server to NetApp? Do you have a cifs license for the filer? From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]mailto:[mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 11:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: NetApp CIFS, Windows Servers and Send unencrypted password to third-party SMB servers I am being asked to enable the setting Send unencrypted password to third-party SMB servers so we can map Windows Servers to NetApp CIFS shares. This thread shows it worked for him: https://communities.netapp.com/thread/24037 Anyone here have any experience with NetApp, CIFS and Windows servers? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: NetApp CIFS, Windows Servers and Send unencrypted password to third-party SMB servers
I am taking it that when you did the cifs setup, you joined the first domain? If you are cifs only then you might be able to get by with using the altSecurityIdentities attribute. It's been awhile but I think there are problems if you use NFS qtrees. Question: Are the forests in the same timezone? Could be a case of smb signing. From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 12:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NetApp CIFS, Windows Servers and Send unencrypted password to third-party SMB servers The message is the account is not authorized to log in from this station whenever trying to map a drive to it from DOMAIN2. It works from DOMAIN1 (which is in a different forest than DOMAIN2 Dave From: Mathew Shember [mailto:mathew.shem...@synopsys.com]mailto:[mailto:mathew.shem...@synopsys.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 11:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NetApp CIFS, Windows Servers and Send unencrypted password to third-party SMB servers What exactly are you trying to do? The filers will appear in AD as server. Mapping a windows server to NetApp? Do you have a cifs license for the filer? From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]mailto:[mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 11:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: NetApp CIFS, Windows Servers and Send unencrypted password to third-party SMB servers I am being asked to enable the setting Send unencrypted password to third-party SMB servers so we can map Windows Servers to NetApp CIFS shares. This thread shows it worked for him: https://communities.netapp.com/thread/24037 Anyone here have any experience with NetApp, CIFS and Windows servers? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Certification time?
That’s one I am leaning towards. Check the local community colleges as some might have programs with VMWare and for 6 weeks you can take the requisite course. One local school does that here ☺ From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 9:25 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Certification time? I would do the VCP in a heartbeat but you are required to sit the 5 day class and take the test to get it. The cheapest I've seen the course is around $2500. Kind of out of my range. John W. Cook Network Operations Manager Partnership for Strong Families From: Mathew Shember [mailto:mathew.shem...@synopsys.com]mailto:[mailto:mathew.shem...@synopsys.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 12:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Certification time? First off to avoid the question and value of certifications; I tend to view them as resume garnish which helps get you by HR filters. The question is which to pursue? I think all of mine have expired and my new organization seems to place value on them. They have all the training stuff for 2003 but I am thinking that’s a little too old even though it seems to be in many places. One guy told me why not get it and then take the upgrade test for 2008? Redhat Engineer? Worth it? The ever present CCNA and CCNP. At the moment I am out of the networking areas but will probably reup. Vmware. Any value to VCP? Citrix? Any other areas? Thank you for donating a minute to read this. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Did y'all know...
You mean a telephone line or a line in the sand? From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 6:35 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Did y'all know... I’m pretty sure there’s a direct line between the Adobe Flash people and the Microsoft IE people… From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]mailto:[mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Friday, 7 September 2012 11:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Did y'all know... “If these policies are retained, then there will be a systematic vulnerability window. Microsoft will patch Internet Explorer, and then a week or two later, Adobe will reveal a raft of new Flash security flaws when it patches Flash. Windows users will then have to wait several weeks for Microsoft's next update” Hopefully MS will sort this one out. From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:rich...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2012 7:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Did y'all know... ... that MS baked Flash into IE 10, and that you can't update it outside of the Microsoft update release channel? I discovered this tonight when Secunia PSI was screaming at me to update my shiny new Win 8 playpen, but then I couldn't do it because MS won't let me. http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/09/internet-explorer-10s-bundled-flash-leaves-users-exploitable/ Wow ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Death of the Desktops?
Well? Desktop to me is just that; a desktop machine such as the Dell Precession. For software engineers (at least in EDA); I don't see the tablets replacing them as they lack the power and ram these guys need. We looked at VDI and basically what we were going to save in desktop/laptop costs would be spent on the infrastructure. In some cases; it would cost more. However, I could see the tablets and the cloud replacing the need for laptops. People seem to prefer them due to the weight and the angry birds factor. From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 12:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Death of the Desktops? Seems like a lot of resonses are based off the individual's interpretation of what they mean by stating desktops are going away. Some are inferring this means the adoption of tablets, or some other device without the typical HID (read: non-touch screen). Others seem to infer they're pointing at VDI as the replacement of desktops and then arguing that VDI still involves a device of sometype which may equate to a desktop. I ask, who are they and what is their definition of desktop? - Sean On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.commailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: These initiatives, death of the desktop, cloud, BYOD, etc., etc. are just vendors trying to find new ways to make money. For desktops, in this case, the margins are so slim now, no one is making any money. Look at what Dell is doing with the acquisition of Quest. They have long been a hardware company but are trying hard to move into software, where actual money can be made. -Original Message- From: Ben M. Schorr [mailto:b...@rolandschorr.commailto:b...@rolandschorr.com] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 2:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Death of the Desktops? I agree with Greg. I think there's always (at least for the foreseeable future) going to be a role for desktop machines though I think SOME desktop clients are going to be replaced with docked mobile devices. It may be that 10 years from now most of us are using some sort of tablet that, as Greg suggests, slips into a docking station with a real keyboard and large monitor(s). Ben M. Schorr Chief Executive Officer __ Roland Schorr Tower www.rolandschorr.comhttp://www.rolandschorr.com/ -Original Message- From: Greg Olson [mailto:gol...@markettools.commailto:gol...@markettools.com] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 11:07 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Death of the Desktops? The desktop isn't going anywhere really, it's just evolving. What will probably fade out (except for high-end needs) is the dedicated non-mobile desktop pc. I can easily see were your tablet\phone\whatever has enough processing and graphic power to be sitting in a dock in the office, with full keyboard and mouse support, and then is lifted out and taken with you on the go. There will always be room for the places that have users that do not need this (Call centers, retail, etc) so it never will truly die out. -Greg -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 10:42 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Death of the Desktops? Spreadsheets creation and data entry, page layout, photo processing, writing, presentation creation - those and more are far more difficult on anything without a keyboard and mouse. Kurt On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Rankin, James R kz2...@googlemail.commailto:kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: Can you imagine writing technical documents or doing CAD on a tablet? Sure the percentages may change, but the desktop will not go away anytime soon. It might run on a thin client, but there's still a place for a desktop - even if virtual. Pundits have been predicting things like the death of Citrix and the year of the Linux desktop for a long while. I haven't noticed either of them happening. YMMV, IMO, etc. ---Blackberried From: Roger Wright rhw...@gmail.commailto:rhw...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 12:40:41 -0400 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Death of the Desktops? There are a number of pundits pushing the notion that desktop computing is facing certain death, and especially for desktop computers as we've known them up to now. Indeed, there are more portable offerings available than desktop machine options, but with a higher price/performance/feature ratio. I'm not sure I buy it, especially for many business environments where access to legacy apps is critical. But it does give me something to consider as we face our annual equipment refresh
RE: Laptop with Serial Port?
+1 on that suggestion. I think I had a Belkin before but it would only work with a 32 bit OS. When I went to 64; they said I needed to purchase the 64 bit version. From: James Hill [mailto:falc...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 1:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Laptop with Serial Port? Very true. I've had good results with Aten's http://www.aten.com/products/productItem.php?model_no=UC232A on 32 and 64bit OS's. James. From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]mailto:[mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Saturday, 25 August 2012 3:25 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Laptop with Serial Port? I have found not all Serial -- USB adapters are created equal. My car's ECU (engine computer) is programmable but only via serial port, and my laptop only has USB ports and I had to be particular about which adapter I used else I'd get no comm. This is the one I picked up: http://www.usconverters.com/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=325 Dave From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 9:42 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Laptop with Serial Port? Anyone have a recommendation for a 12-14 laptop with a serial port? We have some field staff who require serial connections for monitoring equipment, and the USB/serial adapters don't always work. Roger Wright ___ Geocaching: Hide, Hunt, Find Repeat - It's FUN! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Offline/online detection
Just install MOC! :p You might use lastlogon from the DCs. I remember the scripting guy blog having something on it. Ahh found it: http://blogs.technet.com/b/heyscriptingguy/archive/2010/01/27/dandelions-vcr-clocks-and-last-logon-times-these-are-a-few-of-our-least-favorite-things.aspx -Original Message- From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 11:26 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Offline/online detection What's the best way to detect whether a user is offline or online (I.e. Connected to the corporate network)? I thought maybe query the %logonserver% variable but that might also apply to online situations where a DC cannot be contacted for whatever reason. I'm sure there must be a way, wondering if anyone has any ideas they can throw out? TIA, JR ---Blackberried ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Certificate authority
Must be a great book! ;) http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B004RP438O/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8condition=new -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 4:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Certificate authority No, you are not overthinking this. It's not extremely complicated, but it's very good to do all of your reading and get your ducks all in a row before you start this. I went with a two-tier installation - the root CA is a VM that's shut down and copied to a portable disk, and is not a member of the domain. Make sure that you note when your CRL expires, so that you can bring up your root CA in time to generate a new one. If you want to get more depth on the subject, I recommend this book (only available as an ebook, unfortunately): http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9780735625167.do Kurt On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 3:48 PM, jwalt...@specservices.com wrote: We will be installing Microsoft Lync here very soon and I need to have a certificate authority running. To date, we’ve not had a need to stand one up and from the research I’ve done, it seems there are a number of ways to go – three tier, two, standalone. Our needs are for Lync, maybe some certs for some smart phones and some internal software we’ve written so it’s not a complicated system from our perspective. At least not for the short term. I obviously don’t want to do something that I’ll regret later and was looking for some advice from other who have traveled these roads and learned what to do, and what not to do. From my research, I think a two tier system will work but I’m not real clear at this point how you have an offline CA (for security purposes) and subordinate CA’s to hand our certs. Still reading up on all that. Am I overthinking all this as my Lync installer suggests? He said that I should just install the certificate role on a DC and that would be that. I think they might be better at installing and configuring Lync than they are at designing certificate authorities as my research indicates doing that is not the best way to go. Can anyone share their experiences as time is short and I need to decide what CA to stand up. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks Jim ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Is it just me (KB2282241,KB2275950...)
The 1 is missing on the link. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/228224 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2282241 From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 5:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it just me (KB2282241,KB2275950...) The link s I posted were from this page: http://blogs.technet.com/b/glennl/archive/2009/08/21/w2k3-to-w2k8-active-directory-upgrade-considerations.aspx And now most of them work - 3 of the 4 I posted now work again. Dave From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]mailto:[mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 5:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it just me (KB2282241,KB2275950...) I only see that KB2282241 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/228224 Is not resolving to a page. Z Edward Ziots CISSP, Security +, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization ezi...@lifespan.orgmailto:ezi...@lifespan.org From: Manuel Santos [mailto:nel...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:nel...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 6:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Is it just me (KB2282241,KB2275950...) Same here in Portugal 2012/6/19 Charlie Kaiser charl...@golden-eagle.orgmailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org Support.microsoft.comhttp://Support.microsoft.com is dead here for me in AZ... *** Charlie Kaiser charl...@golden-eagle.orgmailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org Kingman, AZ *** -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.orgmailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 2:25 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Is it just me (KB2282241,KB2275950...) I can't view any of these KB articles, from two different networks I get failures: KB946405 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/946405 KB942564 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/942564 KB2275950 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2275950 KB2282241 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/228224 David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229tel:503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764tel:503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Passphrases vs. password
Indeed they are. They also reduce your password reset requests as people will write them down. From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 5:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Passphrases vs. password I have no idea what you said. I'm guessing you're saying a 26-character passphrase is no better than a 12-character password? From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]mailto:[mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 5:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Passphrases vs. password Dump hashes of the passwords/passphrases, run then through a rainbow table, game is still over. Either that or don't even crack the hash, just pass the hash and game is still over. Nice tool gsecdump gets a lot, and there are other tools that will allow you to pass the hash. Z Edward Ziots CISSP, Security +, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization ezi...@lifespan.orgmailto:ezi...@lifespan.org From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]mailto:[mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 2:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Passphrases vs. password My passphrases are properly formatted sentences. We use IM here internally a lot. On the plus side: If I inadvertently type Long passwords are stupid! into the wrong IM window it's not immediately obvious that the wrong window received the input, vs. say $eptember01 The downside: Some scanners scan-to-SMB will fail if the password is longer than 15 characters. Dumb. David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Which Server In A TS Farm?
And I thought I was missing something From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 12:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Which Server In A TS Farm? Er, try RDP direct to your server of choice? ---Blackberried From: Robert Jackson r...@walkermartyn.co.ukmailto:r...@walkermartyn.co.uk Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 08:32:41 +0100 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Which Server In A TS Farm? Within a Terminal Services Farm, is it possible to specify which server to log in to? As an Administrator, I may want to log into a specific server in the TS Farm to check log files, AV updates etc. Regards, Rab. = Robert Jackson Phone: +44 (0) 141 332 7999 IT Manager Fax: +44 (0) 141 331 2820 Walker Martyn Ltd 1 Park Circus PlaceEmail: r...@walkermartyn.co.ukmailto:r...@walkermartyn.co.uk Glasgow G3 6AH, Scotland Web: http://www.walkermartyn.co.ukhttp://www.walkermartyn.co.uk/ = The information in this internet E-mail is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone else is unauthorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Walker Martyn Ltd or any of its affiliates. If you are not the intended recipient please contact administra...@walkermartyn.co.ukmailto:administra...@walkermartyn.co.uk. Walker Martyn Ltd, company number SC197533. Company is registered in Scotland and has its registered office at 1 Park Circus Place, Glasgow G3 6AH, UK. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Looking for an odd item
Just talk about citrix and how wonderful it is and he will swoon. ;) From: Lora Cates [mailto:lora.ca...@rocketmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 4:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Looking for an odd item You are trouble, with a capital T! :) -lc From: Webster webs...@carlwebster.commailto:webs...@carlwebster.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 5:56 PM Subject: RE: Looking for an odd item I didn’t think women mentioned how overweight or plus sized they are smirk Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.carlwebster.com/ From: Lora Cates [mailto:lora.ca...@rocketmail.com]mailto:[mailto:lora.ca...@rocketmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 5:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Looking for an odd item Well fine. I'm a big girl ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: OTish VPN tunnel on the quick and cheap. SOLVED
I vaguely remember a situation where you can get a 10 connection limit with windows 7. I think it involved where the person upgraded from Vista to win 7. A clean install solved it.. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 9:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OTish VPN tunnel on the quick and cheap. SOLVED Don't be so generous! I was only thinking about myself. :-) Just found out might have a similar situation sometime soon. Or not. Who knows? On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.orgmailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org wrote: 20 on Win 7. That will be plenty for this application, but tyvm for looking out for me. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 11:38 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OTish VPN tunnel on the quick and cheap. SOLVED 10 connection limit still in Workstation OS's? I have no idea if that's still the case, but it could be a problem that rears its ugly head... On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.orgmailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org wrote: So I sat down this morning and to my left was a pile of old lynsys home routers that my co-workers brought in as openWRT candidates. On my screen was Hamachi that looked interesting. But to my right was my sandbox Win7 machine and it hit me. Dude, just slam in another NIC, VPN it into our existing VPN setup and use ICS. Took about 5 minutes to set up, another 15 to test and I sent it off to be installed. Thank you everyone, there were some very good workable solutions. From: Kennedy, Jim Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 3:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OTish VPN tunnel on the quick and cheap. Need two simple cheap devices to fire up a point to point VPN tunnel. Cable modem at a small remote office back to a cable modem at the main office that we will tap into our primary network. Low traffic and very temporary. Suggestions? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
So Imera systems went belly up.
We were using their gateway for remote secure debug sessions. Anybody know of anybody else doing this? Not much out there via google... Thanks, Mathew ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Network Analyzer
How many hens are needed? ;-) -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 11:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Network Analyzer I think they have a method where you can buy a 1Gb unit now, and hen trade up later... -sc -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 1:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Network Analyzer Thanks - I believe that is one they've been looking at. Our speeds required right now aren't that fast, but the headroom is nice to have. Kurt On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 10:08, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: It's the Fluke Networks OptiView XG This is the beast: http://www.flukenetworks.com/enterprise-network/network- testing/optivi ew-xg-network-analysis-tablet It has 4 test ports on it: copper 10/100/1000 (x2), 1Gb SFP+ fiber, 10Gb SFP+ fiber. In addition it has two WLAN receivers and external antenna connector. It also has USB an eSATA ports. We've used it for testing out some building fiber runs at 1 and 10 Gb, and it seemed to do the job. If you want to do much deep capture at the higher speeds, you need an external eSata drive. Haven't played with the WiFi capability much. Don't know it if does the VoIP stuff, but the above link might sort that out for you. -sc -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 12:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Network Analyzer Your reminder, good sir. Please and thank you. Kurt On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 20:13, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: We got a new Fluke to be able to diagnose 10g connections, and it's quite nice. Don't know here what the model # is, and altho I think it can do VoIP stuff, I've not used it. If you want model # or details, remind me Monday when I get back in and I can take a looksee for you. -sc -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 8:15 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Network Analyzer All, Our engineers have finally convinced management that they need a better tool than wireshark for their needs. I am familiar with wireshark and the netmon tools, using them once in a while to track problems, but don't have any experience with the high end tools like Fluke's OptiView stuff. These folks are designing and testing VoIP/SIP applications, possibly in the future involving wifi. Does anyone here have experience with this kind of thing, and can recommend a particular piece of equipment? I'm sure I'll get a bit of benefit from this, as it'll be a major purchase for the company and they won't be using it all the time, so while IT won't be spending its departmental money on it, we are being asked for recommendations. Thanks, Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here:
RE: Worth some consideration...
Oh pshaw. Sticky notes are not very green. The bottom of the keyboard takes care of that. I remember horrifying a user by looking underneath. What was funny; she wrote it in silver ink as the keyboard was black. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 10:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Worth some consideration... Uh, yeah they are, if they're not stored in a secure place. Sticky notes, by design, are meant to be placed somewhere convenient to the user, which, to me, suggests somewhere out in the open. That's completely different from a sheet of paper containing some common passwords necessary to certain functions being in a locked file cabinet, with a limited set of users of said file cabinet having keys. So writing passwords down isn't necessarily bad, based on where the data is actually stored and how it is secured. Writing on a sticky note suggests that the data isn't well secured, and that storage is accessible to someone who can easily see the contents of your work area. Do you have external cleaning staff? Or heck, even internal after hours cleaning staff? How can you be sure that the password hasn't been used by them? On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Crawford, Scott crawfo...@evangel.edumailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu wrote: Agreed. Just pointing out that in an office with doors and walls and other various physical security measures, sticky note passwords aren't *necessarily* as horrible an idea as we like to joke about. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Andrew S. Baker Sent: 3/15/2012 5:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Worth some consideration... I'd rather not accept a false dilemma. There is no reason to have either of the options presented, as both are bad. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Crawford, Scott crawfo...@evangel.edumailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu wrote: I'd rather have good passwords written down on a sticky note accessible only to a limited number of coworkers than bad passwords that can be exploited by any black-hat on the internet. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Heaton, Joseph@DFG Sent: 3/15/2012 11:07 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Worth some consideration... Wait... I'm NOT supposed to write my password on a sticky note? How am I supposed to let my coworker use my login, then? Joe Heaton ITB - Windows Server Support From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.commailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 7:49 AM To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Worth some consideration... That's an implementation problem. If I choose a passphrase of Mary had a little lamb then of course that will be relatively weak as passphrases go. That that is not an inherent weakness of passphrases, but of people. Lots of things are undermined by poor choices. Completely random 20 character passwords with a unicode character set are undermined by having them posted on sticky notes. We didn't need a whole article to point that out. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2012/03/passphrases-only-marginally-more-secure-than-passwords-because-of-poor-choices.ars By Dan Goodin Ars Technica March 14, 2012 Passwords that contain multiple words aren't as resistant as some researchers expected to certain types of cracking attacks, mainly because users frequently pick phrases that occur regularly in everyday speech, a recently published paper concludes. Security managers have long regarded passphrases as an easy-to-remember way to pack dozens of characters into the string that must be entered to access online accounts or to unlock private encryption keys. The more characters, the thinking goes, the harder it is for attackers to guess or otherwise crack the code, since there are orders of magnitude more possible combinations. But a pair of computer scientists from Cambridge University has found that a significant percentage of passphrases used in a real-world scenario were easy to guess. Using a dictionary containing 20,656 phrases of movie titles, sports team names, and other proper nouns, they were able to find about 8,000 passphrases chosen by users of Amazon's now-defunct PayPhrase system. That's an estimated 1.13 percent of the available accounts. The promise of passphrases' increased entropy, it seems, was undone by many users' tendency to pick phrases that are staples of the everyday lexicon. Our results suggest that users aren't able to choose phrases made of completely random words, but are influenced by the probability of a phrase occurring in natural language, researchers Joseph
RE: Worth some consideration...
Sticky notes aren't as bad. What I have seen done is people are storing those in the email folders. Sticky notes are becoming less common. Well, anecdotally speaking that is. From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 11:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Worth some consideration... I'd rather have good passwords written down on a sticky note accessible only to a limited number of coworkers than bad passwords that can be exploited by any black-hat on the internet. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Heaton, Joseph@DFG Sent: 3/15/2012 11:07 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Worth some consideration... Wait... I'm NOT supposed to write my password on a sticky note? How am I supposed to let my coworker use my login, then? Joe Heaton ITB - Windows Server Support From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 7:49 AM To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Worth some consideration... That's an implementation problem. If I choose a passphrase of Mary had a little lamb then of course that will be relatively weak as passphrases go. That that is not an inherent weakness of passphrases, but of people. Lots of things are undermined by poor choices. Completely random 20 character passwords with a unicode character set are undermined by having them posted on sticky notes. We didn't need a whole article to point that out. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2012/03/passphrases-only-marginally-more-secure-than-passwords-because-of-poor-choices.ars By Dan Goodin Ars Technica March 14, 2012 Passwords that contain multiple words aren't as resistant as some researchers expected to certain types of cracking attacks, mainly because users frequently pick phrases that occur regularly in everyday speech, a recently published paper concludes. Security managers have long regarded passphrases as an easy-to-remember way to pack dozens of characters into the string that must be entered to access online accounts or to unlock private encryption keys. The more characters, the thinking goes, the harder it is for attackers to guess or otherwise crack the code, since there are orders of magnitude more possible combinations. But a pair of computer scientists from Cambridge University has found that a significant percentage of passphrases used in a real-world scenario were easy to guess. Using a dictionary containing 20,656 phrases of movie titles, sports team names, and other proper nouns, they were able to find about 8,000 passphrases chosen by users of Amazon's now-defunct PayPhrase system. That's an estimated 1.13 percent of the available accounts. The promise of passphrases' increased entropy, it seems, was undone by many users' tendency to pick phrases that are staples of the everyday lexicon. Our results suggest that users aren't able to choose phrases made of completely random words, but are influenced by the probability of a phrase occurring in natural language, researchers Joseph Bonneau and Ekaterina Shutova wrote in the paper (PDF), which is titled Linguistic properties of multi-word passphrases. Examining the surprisingly weak distribution of phrases in natural language, we can conclude that even 4-word phrases probably provide less than 30 bits of security which is insufficient against offline attack, the paper says. [...] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to
RE: Worth some consideration...
But if they have to keep pulling out the note to enter the password; doesn’t that increase the chances of “over the shoulder” password learning? From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 9:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Worth some consideration... Don't be obtuse. I made no recommendation with my statement. If you're looking for options, I recommend fully formed but easy to type sentences of at least 20 characters. If they must be written down, advise your clients to keep them in their wallets. Kurt On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 16:51, Mack Bolan mack.bola...@gmail.commailto:mack.bola...@gmail.com wrote: So that makes sticky notes ok? Mack S. Bolan On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps you might want to rethink your threat model: http://www.darkreading.com/database-security/167901020/security/attacks-breaches/232601717/new-verizon-breach-data-shows-outside-threat-dominated-2011.html On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 13:50, Doug Hampshire dhampsh...@gmail.commailto:dhampsh...@gmail.com wrote: Are you sure about that? The vast majority of security incidents happen on the inside of your network from known individuals. Also it was addressing offline brute force attacks. Most online systems have lockout policies and other countermeasures to limit exposure to brute force attacks. On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Crawford, Scott crawfo...@evangel.edumailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu wrote: I'd rather have good passwords written down on a sticky note accessible only to a limited number of coworkers than bad passwords that can be exploited by any black-hat on the internet. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Heaton, Joseph@DFG Sent: 3/15/2012 11:07 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Worth some consideration... Wait… I’m NOT supposed to write my password on a sticky note? How am I supposed to let my coworker use my login, then? Joe Heaton ITB – Windows Server Support From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.commailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 7:49 AM To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Worth some consideration... That's an implementation problem. If I choose a passphrase of Mary had a little lamb then of course that will be relatively weak as passphrases go. That that is not an inherent weakness of passphrases, but of people. Lots of things are undermined by poor choices. Completely random 20 character passwords with a unicode character set are undermined by having them posted on sticky notes. We didn't need a whole article to point that out. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2012/03/passphrases-only-marginally-more-secure-than-passwords-because-of-poor-choices.ars By Dan Goodin Ars Technica March 14, 2012 Passwords that contain multiple words aren't as resistant as some researchers expected to certain types of cracking attacks, mainly because users frequently pick phrases that occur regularly in everyday speech, a recently published paper concludes. Security managers have long regarded passphrases as an easy-to-remember way to pack dozens of characters into the string that must be entered to access online accounts or to unlock private encryption keys. The more characters, the thinking goes, the harder it is for attackers to guess or otherwise crack the code, since there are orders of magnitude more possible combinations. But a pair of computer scientists from Cambridge University has found that a significant percentage of passphrases used in a real-world scenario were easy to guess. Using a dictionary containing 20,656 phrases of movie titles, sports team names, and other proper nouns, they were able to find about 8,000 passphrases chosen by users of Amazon's now-defunct PayPhrase system. That's an estimated 1.13 percent of the available accounts. The promise of passphrases' increased entropy, it seems, was undone by many users' tendency to pick phrases that are staples of the everyday lexicon. Our results suggest that users aren't able to choose phrases made of completely random words, but are influenced by the probability of a phrase occurring in natural language, researchers Joseph Bonneau and Ekaterina Shutova wrote in the paper (PDF), which is titled Linguistic properties of multi-word passphrases. Examining the surprisingly weak distribution of phrases in natural language, we can conclude that even 4-word phrases probably provide less than 30 bits of security which is insufficient against offline attack, the paper says. [...] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click
RE: list delays
Oh it's not that bad. It's not like there are people here waiting to pounce on any stupid or lazy questions. Most of the time they are ignored or simply giving enough information to people on their way. Even with a perceived lazy stupid question, I have seen the tones change once it's understood the person is genuinely lost. Or once in my case an attacker changed tones when he learned I had been up for 29 hours. Some might argue we have a couple vulgarians but this is not a work environment. You have to look past the profanity and see what is being said. As to unprofessional? That definition varies and even then this is an information source on the Internet. It's not a place of business. People here are professionals and we don't get the emo tweens which frequent web sites. Finally, why not use your real name? From: Cynicalgeek [mailto:cynicalg...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: list delays It's pretty easy to ignore a signature, but to have to ignore it hundreds or thousands of times when it's including in replies by other people just doesn't make any sense to me. Butwhatever. You know I've considered using my real name on here several times. However, after seeing how a lot of the masters of this list treat the readers of the list, I'll never do it. The masters find enjoyment in berating and personally attacking readers of the list. I wouldn't put it past some or the masters to actually look somebody up and either A) call a list member's employer to complain, or B) personally attack (verbally) in real life over the phone, via snail mail, etc. This list is still useful but there is a lot of unprofessionalism that goes on that has nothing to do with my 'cynicalgeek' email address not using my real name. On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: It's pretty easy to ignore a signature. It's also funny, so I tend to give it a pass. I've seen worse signatures with huge pictures, those are pretty objectionable. The list members have come down hard on people with huge graphics and whatnot in their signature. Is Mr Rankin's long? Yeah, but it's text and it doesn't stand out and cry for my attention, either. Turning this on its head. If you expect the courtesy of Mr. Rankin trimming his signature, why is it unreasonable for someone to ask you to use your real name? Or at least use an alias that appears legitimate. Community is built when people know who their peers are. On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Cynicalgeek cynicalg...@gmail.commailto:cynicalg...@gmail.com wrote: #1 I read nothing in the EULA about having to use my real first and last name. #2 I shouldn't have said that the LISTSERV should munge the long signature, I should have said that list owners should gently ask users not to use signatures that are incredibly long and useless. #3 I'm trying to make constructive suggestions that would help the community of this list...solutions that would cost members of the list NOTHING and improve the service of the list. On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:05 AM, Don Ely don@gmail.commailto:don@gmail.com wrote: 1 demerit for you sir! On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:02 PM, Jon Harris jk.har...@gmail.commailto:jk.har...@gmail.com wrote: Now someone is either dreaming or you have had way too many beers tonight sir. Jon On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:39 AM, Don Ely don@gmail.commailto:don@gmail.com wrote: And while were at it, posts will only accepted by the listserv provided they contain the appropriate amount of research has been completed with references included! On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.commailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com wrote: Equally, if it purged everyone that doesn't post with a cleartext real-world name, that would be a good thing also. --Original Message-- From: cynicalg...@gmail.commailto:cynicalg...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issues ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: list delays Sent: Mar 13, 2012 23:28 Personally I think if the LISTSERV would munge James Rankins' email signature on demand we would all be better off. ;) Sent from my iPhone On Mar 13, 2012, at 9:37 PM, Bill Humphries nt...@hedgedigger.commailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com wrote: wow. 4 hour delays on postings. really, this should be fixed or ditch lyris. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click
RE: list delays
Now that is funny. From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 2:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: list delays Profile is now gone. Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/ From: William Robbins dangerw...@gmail.commailto:dangerw...@gmail.com Subject: Re: list delays Not according to his LinkedIn profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/lbrownlee ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: list delays
Excuse me while I go poke out my mind's eye. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 3:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: list delays We're all naked underneath our clothes... On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 13:22, Don Ely don@gmail.com wrote: Pshaw! I'm anonymous behind this email address!!! On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.org wrote: Dang it, I was going to do that but had to go to a meeting. Well done sir. From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 2:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: list delays I'm sure you're safe in your anonymity... 1993 Lawrence Brownlee Trombone Dalton, GA IT Director for local law firm Looking back now...being WonderBoy. cynicalg...@gmail.com - WJR Don't let the T-shirt fool you On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:53, Cynicalgeek cynicalg...@gmail.com wrote: It's pretty easy to ignore a signature, but to have to ignore it hundreds or thousands of times when it's including in replies by other people just doesn't make any sense to me. Butwhatever. You know I've considered using my real name on here several times. However, after seeing how a lot of the masters of this list treat the readers of the list, I'll never do it. The masters find enjoyment in berating and personally attacking readers of the list. I wouldn't put it past some or the masters to actually look somebody up and either A) call a list member's employer to complain, or B) personally attack (verbally) in real life over the phone, via snail mail, etc. This list is still useful but there is a lot of unprofessionalism that goes on that has nothing to do with my 'cynicalgeek' email address not using my real name. On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: It's pretty easy to ignore a signature. It's also funny, so I tend to give it a pass. I've seen worse signatures with huge pictures, those are pretty objectionable. The list members have come down hard on people with huge graphics and whatnot in their signature. Is Mr Rankin's long? Yeah, but it's text and it doesn't stand out and cry for my attention, either. Turning this on its head. If you expect the courtesy of Mr. Rankin trimming his signature, why is it unreasonable for someone to ask you to use your real name? Or at least use an alias that appears legitimate. Community is built when people know who their peers are. On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Cynicalgeek cynicalg...@gmail.com wrote: #1 I read nothing in the EULA about having to use my real first and last name. #2 I shouldn't have said that the LISTSERV should munge the long signature, I should have said that list owners should gently ask users not to use signatures that are incredibly long and useless. #3 I'm trying to make constructive suggestions that would help the community of this list...solutions that would cost members of the list NOTHING and improve the service of the list. On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:05 AM, Don Ely don@gmail.com wrote: 1 demerit for you sir! On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:02 PM, Jon Harris jk.har...@gmail.com wrote: Now someone is either dreaming or you have had way too many beers tonight sir. Jon On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:39 AM, Don Ely don@gmail.com wrote: And while were at it, posts will only accepted by the listserv provided they contain the appropriate amount of research has been completed with references included! On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.com wrote: Equally, if it purged everyone that doesn't post with a cleartext real-world name, that would be a good thing also. --Original Message-- From: cynicalg...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issues ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: list delays Sent: Mar 13, 2012 23:28 Personally I think if the LISTSERV would munge James Rankins' email signature on demand we would all be better off. ;) Sent from my iPhone On Mar 13, 2012, at 9:37 PM, Bill Humphries nt...@hedgedigger.com wrote: wow. 4 hour delays on postings. really, this should be fixed or ditch lyris. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the
RE: Carolina BBQ Sauce (was Re: Proxy server and ISA)
Indeed. I remember a long time ago, my uncle would stock up on Coors whenever he visited. Why? Because they didn’t have it in Michigan at the time and it was considered a delicacy. He stopped drinking it when they finally started selling there. Said it was only interesting because you couldn’t find it. ☺ +1 on Youngs and also found Shiner Bock interesting. Thanks, Mathew From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 7:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Carolina BBQ Sauce (was Re: Proxy server and ISA) Most American major brands (Bud, Coors, Miller, etc.) are swill, not lager. OTOH, there are a *lot* of smaller brands with good stouts, porters, IPAs and others. I'm particularly fond of some of the Stone offerings, and Young's Chocolate Stout, among others. Heck, I also like Shiner Bock. Kurt On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 06:53, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.commailto:kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: American beer is lager This topic will now soon be banned from here too, along with BBQ sauce On 13 March 2012 13:23, Webster webs...@carlwebster.commailto:webs...@carlwebster.com wrote: It is an international mailing list and you can imagine the american beer is water type arguments. The burgers wars were just incredible. Who knew burgers, the types of meat, the style of cooking, comparing various chains, cooking methods, etc etc etc. It was such a horrible thread, I being the list owner had to step in and ban the topic from further discussion. It has been 10 years since all three thread topics were banned. When we tuba players gather at conferences, the list members still talk about the vile language and name calling that went on in those discussions. They would have made Gary Slinger look like a saint! :) Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/ From: Jonathan Link [jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 7:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Carolina BBQ Sauce (was Re: Proxy server and ISA) Is it the well done/not well done burger debate? I can't imagine what situation arose that needed to ban beer from the discussion. It must have been truly heinous. On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:41 AM, Webster webs...@carlwebster.commailto:webs...@carlwebster.com wrote: I run a mailing list for tuba and euphonium players since mid 90s. There are three banned topics: Drum Bugle Corp Burgers Beer Who would have thought that tuba players would be banned from discussing beer and hamburgers!!! But in that world, those are world war starting topics. Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/ From: John Leto [jo...@colonialsavings.commailto:jo...@colonialsavings.com] Subject: RE: Carolina BBQ Sauce (was Re: Proxy server and ISA) I agree. It's been my experience that the topics that start the most fights around here are indeed politics, religion, and BBQ. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. * IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER * This document should be read only by those persons to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message it was obviously addressed to you and therefore you can read it, even it we didn't mean to send it to you. However, if the contents of this email make no sense whatsoever then you probably were not the intended recipient, or, alternatively, you are a mindless cretin; either way, you should immediately kill yourself and destroy your computer (not necessarily in that order). Once you have taken this action, please contact us.. no, sorry, you can't use your computer, because you just destroyed it, and possibly also committed suicide afterwards, but I am starting to digress.. The originator of this email is not liable for the transmission of the information contained in this communication. Or are they? Either way it's a pretty dull legal query and frankly one I'm not going to dwell on. But should you have nothing better to do, please feel free to ruminate on it, and please pass on any concrete conclusions should you find them. However, if you pass them on via email, be sure to include a disclaimer regarding liability for transmission. In the event that the
RE: Windows File Archive
That is sad news. :( Condolences to his family. From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 7:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows File Archive John Harris passed rather unexpectedly, don't know if you recall him from the other list or not Kurt. - WJR On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 23:01, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Do tell. On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 19:23, Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.commailto:michealespin...@gmail.com wrote: Today is a sad day for many of us. Let it slide. -- Espi On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 7:07 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.commailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Think it's about time to set a Gary rule. Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.commailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com wrote: I bring my own. Fuckmonkey was a timely volunteer for me to vent. fuck him. From: Don Ely don@gmail.commailto:don@gmail.com Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 18:43:22 -0800 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Windows File Archive Hotel bar out of alcohol again? ;o) On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 6:39 PM, Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.commailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com wrote: The problem with you damn do-gooders trying to answer his question is: * he hasn't stated what system he's working on, * or copying to, * or what he's tried, * or what he's considered. Is robocopy a windows only solution? (All I know it as, and I'm not interested enough to look it up). Suppose he's on unix, linux, or mac? (I understand some people use those?). Or even some old fashioned big iron or something in-between like an AS/400 (yes, I know what they're called now)... I realize it's not likely, given the third-grade nature of his question. But after all, he does work for a company billing itself as 'Your Technology Solutions Provider'. So be careful, folks, he's a 'professional'. Shit, for all I can tell from the original post, he's trying to copy PDF's from his SAN to his iPhone or something. Via his Outlook Server or Linux Email or something. Actually, I apologize. Carpet boy was probably smarter. And yes, I realize how dumb that sounds. FFS. From: Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.commailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 02:18:39 + To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Windows File Archive Robocopy with /MINAGE switch. You can exclude any files newer than your limit. From: Cesare' A. Ramos [cra...@idfllc.commailto:cra...@idfllc.com] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 7:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Windows File Archive Hellos all. Looking for a utility to scan a storage server and copy off files that have not been accessed in the past 180 days to an external archive solution. Any thoughts? CAR This e-Mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-Mail in error please notify the sender via returned e-Mail. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-Mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. Although IDF operates anti-virus programs, it does not accept responsibility for any damage whatsoever that is caused by viruses being passed. ** Think before you print this message. ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
Copied WIM file exploded on reboot
This was a weird one. For various reasons, I had an install which required use of a USB stick. I copied the WIM to the C drive; applied it and rebooted. It would fail. Watching safe mode; it would fail just after disk.sys. After a doh moment. I applied it directly from the USB stick and it worked. Being this was a rare occurrence; I did not look for a reason for the failure. Anybody seen this one before or know the reason? Thanks, Mathew ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: OT - ugh!
Well? I started one on my virtualization adventures. Like Michael I use it mainly for personal reference. Leaving it to error messages and wordpress. Activity has been rather light. I get about 5-10 a day. It's interesting to see where the hits come from. SEO can't hurt especially if you want greater traffic. Thanks, Mathew -Original Message- From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 8:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - ugh! Out of curiosity, do you guys worry about SEO and your blog? Or do you just put it up there and let wordpress or whatever do its thing? Bill Andrew S. Baker wrote: Amen. ** *ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... * On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com mailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: I get that a lot. J And I also use my blog as an immense resource for myself. If I know I wrote an article, the easiest way to find it - search on my blog. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 07, 2012 2:32 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: OT - ugh! I'm just converting all the documents I wrote into posts. It's actually kind of handy to have them all stored online rather than drag them everywhere with me. I've already had a guy from AppSense on to me correcting me on some of the product features (they must be watching for keywords in Google), so it appears that I am already making some more contacts, which is cool. Cheers, JR On 7 February 2012 19:25, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com wrote: Someone is having just WAY too much fun in their new blog! Keep it up. Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/ *From: *James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com *Reply-To: *NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Date: *Tue, 7 Feb 2012 12:39:29 + *To: *NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject: *Re: OT - ugh! Well, I decided to start blogging up a bit of AppSense stuff, and I seem to be enjoying it! Good call. Mr Webster, I offer no apologies for stealing your bigot moniker for the title for my blog. Anyone else who may use this software can read my ramblings at http://appsensebigot.blogspot.com Cheers, JR On 6 February 2012 20:49, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com wrote: PLEASE DO. I paid my own money to take the course (using a fellow CTPs partner status to get it dirt cheap) but that is a set of software with a LOT of options. Thanks Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/ *From: *James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com *Reply-To: *NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Date: *Mon, 6 Feb 2012 20:16:47 + *To: *NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject: *Re: OT - ugh! I actually have some natural talent as a writer (as opposed to anything in IT which is completely learned). I might start a blog concentrating on AppSense (which is woefully under-represented at the moment, IMO) ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send
RE: EMC limitations?
-in-one storage solution. They need reasons for customers to scale up to the more expensive platforms. I believe even the older CX, CX3 and CX4 models supported SCSI 3. - Sean On 2/7/12, Mathew Shember mathew.shem...@synopsys.commailto:mathew.shem...@synopsys.com wrote: I have not used an EMC in a while but that does sound familiar. I did find one of their sheets that does say the size is limited to that. http://www.emc.com/collateral/hardware/specification-sheet/h8515-vnxe-ss.pdf Thanks, Mathew -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 4:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: EMC limitations? I've got a new-ish (January) EMC VNXe 3100, and have run into a troubling limitation - in use as an iSCSI device, it doesn't support LUNs larger than 1.99tb. According to a post by EMC staff on their community forum, it's doe to the implementation of the SCSI II protocol. I don't know if this limitations affects its use as a NAS, but that's disturbing. My Lefthand units support larger LUNs with no problem. And, otherwise, it's performed just fine - no problems at all. Does anyone out there now if other EMC products have this limitation? Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin MIRA Ltd Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 100 1464 84 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana
RE: OT - ugh!
Ok rub in. I suck. :-P That's assume. :) -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 9:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - ugh! What surprised me after I posted my very first article was how fast I was able to find it via Google. It was like 15 minutes and Google had it. Within an hour I had a few hundred hits Totally blew my mind. I am fast approaching 1 million views for my blog. The view counts for some of my articles just blows me away. I have always updated my blog stats on the 1st day of the month. I have been so busy with work, I forgot to do this on Feb. 1st so I don't have current counts. Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/ On 2/8/12 7:39 AM, Bill Humphries nt...@hedgedigger.com wrote: Out of curiosity, do you guys worry about SEO and your blog? Or do you just put it up there and let wordpress or whatever do its thing? Bill Andrew S. Baker wrote: Amen. ** *ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB marketŠ * On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com mailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: I get that a lot. J And I also use my blog as an immense resource for myself. If I know I wrote an article, the easiest way to find it search on my blog. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 07, 2012 2:32 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: OT - ugh! I'm just converting all the documents I wrote into posts. It's actually kind of handy to have them all stored online rather than drag them everywhere with me. I've already had a guy from AppSense on to me correcting me on some of the product features (they must be watching for keywords in Google), so it appears that I am already making some more contacts, which is cool. Cheers, JR On 7 February 2012 19:25, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com wrote: Someone is having just WAY too much fun in their new blog! Keep it up. Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/ *From: *James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com *Reply-To: *NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Date: *Tue, 7 Feb 2012 12:39:29 + *To: *NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject: *Re: OT - ugh! Well, I decided to start blogging up a bit of AppSense stuff, and I seem to be enjoying it! Good call. Mr Webster, I offer no apologies for stealing your bigot moniker for the title for my blog. Anyone else who may use this software can read my ramblings at http://appsensebigot.blogspot.com Cheers, JR On 6 February 2012 20:49, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com wrote: PLEASE DO. I paid my own money to take the course (using a fellow CTPs partner status to get it dirt cheap) but that is a set of software with a LOT of options. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: OT:open directory
Ninja'd. The SSL part might be considered. If it's not enabled, the laptops might have it enabled. Try the commandline bind approach as well. Thanks, Mathew From: Mike Sullivan [mailto:neog...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 11:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT:open directory Did you already look at this thread? https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3228321?start=0tstart=0 It looks like there are issues if your domain ends in a .local. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Bill Humphries nt...@hedgedigger.commailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com wrote: OK, i know this is way OT for many of you, but I know we have a few edu people around here that may use it. I'm usually binding macs to AD, not OD so I'm not up on all the gotchas that Apple usually doesn't document very well. I have a video production client we are preparing to install Xsan for. They have a Lion Xserver already in place. They want to use Open Directory to better manage file access perms. I have OD installed, ldap is advertised via DHCP and I have successfully bound a machine and logged in as a OD user on the workstation. Problem is it doesn't work on every machine. I have two laptops. One is a Lion, one is Snow Leopard. The SL laptop binds and allows a network user to login. The Lion laptop fails to bind. I get the getting server information then it goes to unable to add server. connection failed to the directory server (2100). Any hints or help appreciated. Thanks. Bill ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Thank you, Mike Sullivan ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: EMC limitations?
I have not used an EMC in a while but that does sound familiar. I did find one of their sheets that does say the size is limited to that. http://www.emc.com/collateral/hardware/specification-sheet/h8515-vnxe-ss.pdf Thanks, Mathew -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 4:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: EMC limitations? I've got a new-ish (January) EMC VNXe 3100, and have run into a troubling limitation - in use as an iSCSI device, it doesn't support LUNs larger than 1.99tb. According to a post by EMC staff on their community forum, it's doe to the implementation of the SCSI II protocol. I don't know if this limitations affects its use as a NAS, but that's disturbing. My Lefthand units support larger LUNs with no problem. And, otherwise, it's performed just fine - no problems at all. Does anyone out there now if other EMC products have this limitation? Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: OT - ugh!
Indeed. One of my wife's friends was that way. We would go somewhere just to hang out and the pitch would eventually happen. Some can't help themselves especially if you happen to work for a large company. Luckily my job keeps me away from my desk phone. ;-) -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 2:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - ugh! On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: I'm doing RFPs and vendor selection and all that right now, and every salesdroid I talk to wants to do the touchy-feeling in-person meeting thing. If you tell them that you don't like to be handled, they won't. A lot of sales people can turn it on and off. It surprises me how many can't turn it off. To the point where it's cost them business (i.e., calling every month just to see what's going on, no matter how many times I've told them not to). Spam delivered via telephone is still spam. Of course, many do listen, which is appreciated. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: EMC limitations?
Me three please. Thank you! From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 10:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: EMC limitations? Me too, please. (For the template - Not the broken SAN.) :) On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 11:30 PM, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.commailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote: I certainly didn't mean to offend you nor do I blame you for being frustrated. It's just that companies aren't going to list their lack of functionality for all to see. What you're running into is not necessarily an issue, but rather a limitation. Now a good reseller would have done a better job of trying to identify your requirements and then used those to pitch a higher-end solution (if justified). I'm assuming Lyris won't allow attachments so I'm forwarding the template to those that expressed interest individually. - Sean On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:08 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 18:10, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.commailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote: Well this is one of those scenarios where I think the customer needs to take responsibility. A good practice to get into is the creation of technical requirement matrices and business requirement matrices. It helps you put on paper what capabilities you need in a solution and gives the vendor a uniform method of informing you of the strengths and weaknesses of their platform. We typically tier our requirements into 3 categories that allows us to weigh the importance of features. For example, a tier 1 requirement might be that the solution support fiber channel or iscsi where a tier 2 or 3 requirement might be support for sub-lun tiering or a 64bit OS to leverage larger cache. This is EMC for crying out loud - arguably the leader in the field, and it's a software issue. We're not talking about going with lesser hardware, which can steeply influence the costs. As well, I was given to understand that this is a relatively new line for them. They have the software in hand, and my 4 year old Lefthands don't have this limitation. I do place this 99% on them (split in some fashion between EMC and the reseller). I'll hand the 1% to my manager, who had used them before, doesn't like the Lefthands, and trusted the reseller rep he's worked with at his prior company. I was given no say in the matter - I suggested another LH unit. It may be too little too late but I'd be happy to share the template we used for our last storage purchase. That might actually be a nice thing - we might not technically outgrow the unit, as it can stack a huge number of disks, but I don't see us doing a whole lot more with it, given that limitation, and the other that raised my dander. - Sean On Feb 7, 2012, at 4:29 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: If true, it would have been nice of them to disclose that before purchase, methinks... Kurt On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 17:04, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.commailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote: I believe the next versions of VNX (5700, 7500, etc) support SCSI 3 protocol which would not have that limitation. I believe this was a limitation that was purposely introduced into the VNXe because EMC is marketing it as an entry level all-in-one storage solution. They need reasons for customers to scale up to the more expensive platforms. I believe even the older CX, CX3 and CX4 models supported SCSI 3. - Sean On 2/7/12, Mathew Shember mathew.shem...@synopsys.commailto:mathew.shem...@synopsys.com wrote: I have not used an EMC in a while but that does sound familiar. I did find one of their sheets that does say the size is limited to that. http://www.emc.com/collateral/hardware/specification-sheet/h8515-vnxe-ss.pdf Thanks, Mathew -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 4:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: EMC limitations? I've got a new-ish (January) EMC VNXe 3100, and have run into a troubling limitation - in use as an iSCSI device, it doesn't support LUNs larger than 1.99tb. According to a post by EMC staff on their community forum, it's doe to the implementation of the SCSI II protocol. I don't know if this limitations affects its use as a NAS, but that's disturbing. My Lefthand units support larger LUNs with no problem. And, otherwise, it's performed just fine - no problems at all. Does anyone out there now if other EMC products have this limitation? Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally
RE: OT - ugh!
Indeed. Certs and degrees are used by people who aren't technical and don't know what to ask let alone evaluate. I have seen talent from prestigious schools and I have seen lunkheads from prestigious schools. The universities were setting rather high expectations however. A friend used to handle the college new hires and he said he had to talk a few off the ledge because they weren't VPs inside of 6 months. Thanks, Mathew -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 11:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - ugh! In my personal experience, I haven't seen any correlation between any degree/certification and actual aptitude/knowledge/value. They're certainly not less likely, but don't appear to be significantly more, either. I have, however, seen correlation between degree/certification and hiring/pay. I suspect this is mainly because it's easier to quantify. Does he have a degree? is an easier question to answer than How good is he? On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Jeff Brown jbr...@webcoindustries.com wrote: Those are some seriously sour grapes you are sucking on. I had a boss who said it this way, the degree proves he/she can finish something. There are no guarantees that anyone is a good or outstanding employee, at least there are SEVERAL examples shared here to point out that degrees or certs don't guarantee competence. Anyone who's done IT for more than a few years can provide additional examples, probably good AND bad. (with or without degrees or certs). Your posts suggest that you think a degreed person is LESS likely to have competence.. sorry, that just sounds like sour grapes to me. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 9:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - ugh! That isn't my observation. On Thursday, February 2, 2012, Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.com wrote: A college degree (usually) indicates that someone has obtained certain literary, communication, and fact-finding skills that are useful in the workplace. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 9:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - ugh! Going to college opens doors. And it almost doesn't even matter what the degree is in. I think it's like a secret handshake. It says I can navigate a byzantine bureaucracy and complete a series of tasks without close supervision. I might be wrong, but I think it's always there in the subconscious. I had doors open for me that were previously shut by completing a degree (my degree is not in IT, but in accountancy). On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 9:29 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: This position requires a degree. Sorry. Click. Wow. I can see the college degree being a tiebreaker, but I can only guess the person making that statement doesn't fully understand the tech industry? Or, maybe not having gone to college myself I don't understand that thinking. It could have also been their way of backing out, instead of saying we changed our minds on our needs or we hired from inside. I've heard of that kind of thing before - where what the person not getting hired wasn't told what was really happening. Dave -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 5:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT - ugh! Last year I was in the final interview for a Citrix Architect position for a very large company in Nashville. IIRC, it was like interview #6 or 7 in the process. I had been talking with the executive for over 45 minutes when all of a sudden he says Oh, I'm sorry I didn't realize you had no college degree. This position requires a degree. Sorry. Click. I then took MBS' advice and went solo. I say screw FTE! :) Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com -Original Message- From: MMF [mailto:mmfree...@ameritech.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 6:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - ugh! Assuming they're being honest, it tells me that they are not very strong in background checking. How could they have missed the fact that you've been with one company for more than 10 years. I've NEVER ever heard of a company offering a job and then withdrawing the offer, period, much less before total background check. I believe that I can fully understand the idea of wanting IT staff that has a varied background which would include more than one job over a decade. I think you are fortunate that you didn't take the job because it sounds to me that the organization isn't of the highest quality, if you catch my drift. Sometimes things happen for the best in spite of your best efforts. They didn't vet you, but how well
RE: South Florida position.
Nope. What is surprising is the low wage and the expected daily drive of 53 or more miles which you must pay for gas, parking and tolls….. Thanks, Mathew From: Harry Singh [mailto:hbo...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 3:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: South Florida position. I thought I was the only one that paused when I read $12/hr after such an exhaustive description. On Thursday, February 2, 2012, Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.commailto:michealespin...@gmail.com wrote: You need to seriously reassess your compensation. Its way out of balance with your expectations. -- Espi On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 9:42 AM, gro...@beachcomp.commailto:gro...@beachcomp.com wrote: Folks, I truly hope this is allowed and that I don't upset people by this e-mail. We're looking for some reliable people to start and grow with us. If you know anyone, please forward this to them. Thanks! On-Site Computer Field Technician Tech Support Rep (Hollywood, Aventura, North Miami Beach) Please DO NOT apply for this position if you do not meet all the qualifications listed below. Job Purpose: Candidates will be required to manage and deliver On-Site Over-the-phone services including repairing servers and workstations by utilizing diagnostic and repair techniques, virus/malware removal, data backup, operating system installation, end user software support. Common job tasks also associated with the core job functions are pre post sales and support, help desk and customer support to users by researching and answering questions; resolving problems; providing resources. Candidates will also need to be able to create marketing advertising materials for use by the company. In addition to the duties listed below, candidate will be required to actively market the services offered by the company and accomplish a goal of Two signed maintenance agreements per month. Duties: - Repair workstations while logging repair work orders; responding to requests. - Comply with policies while adhering to requirements; advising management of needed actions. - Update job knowledge by participating in educational opportunities; reading technical publications. - Enhance organization reputation by accepting ownership for accomplishing new and different requests; exploring opportunities to add value to job accomplishments. - Receive materials by inspecting shipped contents against order; verifying receipt; arranging for shipment of missing items; tracking backorders. - Provide answers to clients by identifying problems; researching answers; guiding client through corrective steps. - Improve client references by writing and maintaining documentation. - Participate in development of client training programs by identifying learning issues; recommending instructional language. - Accommodate client disabilities by recommending devices and techniques. - Improve system performance by identifying problems; recommending changes. - Accomplish information systems and organization mission by completing related results as needed. - Develop new concepts/techniques and complete assignments/tasks in innovative and effective ways. - To be considered for this position, you must put resume for job 210222 in the subject line of your e-mail. - Work on assignments that may be extremely complex in nature where a high degree of independent judgment, initiative and technical knowledge is required to resolve problems. - Complete work independently and handle unique situations. - Determine optimal methods and procedures for new assignments. - Answer incoming calls and assist customers with issues. - Remove systems from premises when required and return upon repair while maintaining responsibility. - Participate in local marketing events such as Chamber of Commerce meetings. Skills/Qualifications: - Knowledge of MS products and the ability to verify that the system starts up and works after installation. - Working knowledge of XP, Vista, Win 7, Win 2003, Win 2008 operating systems. - Ability to perform data transfers and setup computers, laptops, printers and other peripherals. - Familiarity with various types of laptops and their peripherals. - Familiarity with networking protocols with troubleshooting skills. - Attention to details and organizational skills. - Ability to communicate verbally and in written form. - Customer service skills are required. - Problem Solving, Electronics / Computer Troubleshooting, Software Testing, Network Hardware Configuration and Troubleshooting, Messaging Systems, Quality Focus, Organization, Planning, Coordination, Help Desk Experience, Phone Skills, Customer Service, Training, Verbal Communication, Documentation Skills, Product Knowledge. This position requires daily travel from North of Boca Raton to South Miami with the main concentration in the Hollywood, Aventura North Miami
RE: South Florida position.
I’m sorry but don’t you have to have a degree to be on this list? :-p From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 4:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: South Florida position. I saw that no college degree was required and got excited! ☺ But then I noticed Citrix was not in the list of product knowledge required. Bummer! I was this close to moving to south Florida. ☹ Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/ From: Harry Singh [mailto:hbo...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 5:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: South Florida position. I thought I was the only one that paused when I read $12/hr after such an exhaustive description. On Thursday, February 2, 2012, Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.commailto:michealespin...@gmail.com wrote: You need to seriously reassess your compensation. Its way out of balance with your expectations. -- Espi On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 9:42 AM, gro...@beachcomp.commailto:gro...@beachcomp.com wrote: Folks, I truly hope this is allowed and that I don't upset people by this e-mail. We're looking for some reliable people to start and grow with us. If you know anyone, please forward this to them. Thanks! On-Site Computer Field Technician Tech Support Rep (Hollywood, Aventura, North Miami Beach) Please DO NOT apply for this position if you do not meet all the qualifications listed below. Job Purpose: Candidates will be required to manage and deliver On-Site Over-the-phone services including repairing servers and workstations by utilizing diagnostic and repair techniques, virus/malware removal, data backup, operating system installation, end user software support. Common job tasks also associated with the core job functions are pre post sales and support, help desk and customer support to users by researching and answering questions; resolving problems; providing resources. Candidates will also need to be able to create marketing advertising materials for use by the company. In addition to the duties listed below, candidate will be required to actively market the services offered by the company and accomplish a goal of Two signed maintenance agreements per month. Duties: - Repair workstations while logging repair work orders; responding to requests. - Comply with policies while adhering to requirements; advising management of needed actions. - Update job knowledge by participating in educational opportunities; reading technical publications. - Enhance organization reputation by accepting ownership for accomplishing new and different requests; exploring opportunities to add value to job accomplishments. - Receive materials by inspecting shipped contents against order; verifying receipt; arranging for shipment of missing items; tracking backorders. - Provide answers to clients by identifying problems; researching answers; guiding client through corrective steps. - Improve client references by writing and maintaining documentation. - Participate in development of client training programs by identifying learning issues; recommending instructional language. - Accommodate client disabilities by recommending devices and techniques. - Improve system performance by identifying problems; recommending changes. - Accomplish information systems and organization mission by completing related results as needed. - Develop new concepts/techniques and complete assignments/tasks in innovative and effective ways. - To be considered for this position, you must put resume for job 210222 in the subject line of your e-mail. - Work on assignments that may be extremely complex in nature where a high degree of independent judgment, initiative and technical knowledge is required to resolve problems. - Complete work independently and handle unique situations. - Determine optimal methods and procedures for new assignments. - Answer incoming calls and assist customers with issues. - Remove systems from premises when required and return upon repair while maintaining responsibility. - Participate in local marketing events such as Chamber of Commerce meetings. Skills/Qualifications: - Knowledge of MS products and the ability to verify that the system starts up and works after installation. - Working knowledge of XP, Vista, Win 7, Win 2003, Win 2008 operating systems. - Ability to perform data transfers and setup computers, laptops, printers and other peripherals. - Familiarity with various types of laptops and their peripherals. - Familiarity with networking protocols with troubleshooting skills. - Attention to details and organizational skills. - Ability to communicate verbally and in written form. - Customer service skills are required. - Problem Solving, Electronics / Computer Troubleshooting, Software Testing, Network Hardware
RE: The Security Earthquake That Nobody Felt
I guess the snark wasn't obvious. The AV is tolerable as long as you have ePO going. However, my enlightenment happened when there was a fast moving version of sdbot which snuck by and I had to user higher tiered support. They identified it with Kaspersky. We were going to use ironmail (another company) but decided against it after hearing the announcement. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 4:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: The Security Earthquake That Nobody Felt Well, yes, actually, and they are part of Intel, and have been acquiring companies for themselves - for instance, Secure Computing a few years ago, for their Sidewinder firewalls (which are now McAfee Secure Enterprise Firewalls), among others. I still don't like their AV product, but they haven't yet ruined the firewall... Kurt On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 15:57, Mathew Shember mathew.shem...@synopsys.com wrote: Mcafee is sti in business? - Original Message - From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:s...@sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 02:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: The Security Earthquake That Nobody Felt * The Security Earthquake That Nobody Felt Wow, this is actually major security news. I found this on the blog from Coretrace, and they said: This week, McAfee, one of the two dominant forces in reactive, blacklist-based endpoint security, actively and unequivocally endorsed Application Whitelisting. Ironically, in hard coverage of Symantec's recent problems with pcAnywhere, the industry is actively recommending application whitelisting too. Here is the link: http://www.coretraceblogs.com/2012-01/security-earthquake-that-nobody- felt-mcafee-endorses-application-whitelisting/ So, what is the big news? It turns security on its head. Instead of keeping bad code out, with application whitelisting (also known as Application Control) you only allow known-good code to run. That's really a 180, and very, very interesting from a system admin perspective. I have done some research in this area and have written a whitepaper about whitelisting, and why as a system admin you should look into this for the near future. This is a new security layer for your 'defense-in-depth'. You will hear more from me about whitelisting this year: http://www.knowbe4.com/resources/the-endpoint-security-advantages-of-w hitelisting-a-whitepaper-for-system-administrators/ Warm regards, Stu ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: The Security Earthquake That Nobody Felt
Really? We found ePO rather easy. What problems did you have with it? Vipre wasn't available back then so they went with SEP ;) -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 5:24 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: The Security Earthquake That Nobody Felt We had ePO - it was one of the driving reasons for us to abandon it. The other reason was the unreasonable amount of resources the client sucked out of the workstations. Yet another reason was the price - we got VIPRE Enterprise for the renewal price of McAfee, and the renewal price on VIPRE was hard to beat. Hard to say which reason topped the others - kind of a 3-way tie... Kurt On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 10:56, Mathew Shember mathew.shem...@synopsys.com wrote: I guess the snark wasn't obvious. The AV is tolerable as long as you have ePO going. However, my enlightenment happened when there was a fast moving version of sdbot which snuck by and I had to user higher tiered support. They identified it with Kaspersky. We were going to use ironmail (another company) but decided against it after hearing the announcement. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 4:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: The Security Earthquake That Nobody Felt Well, yes, actually, and they are part of Intel, and have been acquiring companies for themselves - for instance, Secure Computing a few years ago, for their Sidewinder firewalls (which are now McAfee Secure Enterprise Firewalls), among others. I still don't like their AV product, but they haven't yet ruined the firewall... Kurt On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 15:57, Mathew Shember mathew.shem...@synopsys.com wrote: Mcafee is sti in business? - Original Message - From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:s...@sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 02:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: The Security Earthquake That Nobody Felt * The Security Earthquake That Nobody Felt Wow, this is actually major security news. I found this on the blog from Coretrace, and they said: This week, McAfee, one of the two dominant forces in reactive, blacklist-based endpoint security, actively and unequivocally endorsed Application Whitelisting. Ironically, in hard coverage of Symantec's recent problems with pcAnywhere, the industry is actively recommending application whitelisting too. Here is the link: http://www.coretraceblogs.com/2012-01/security-earthquake-that-nobody - felt-mcafee-endorses-application-whitelisting/ So, what is the big news? It turns security on its head. Instead of keeping bad code out, with application whitelisting (also known as Application Control) you only allow known-good code to run. That's really a 180, and very, very interesting from a system admin perspective. I have done some research in this area and have written a whitepaper about whitelisting, and why as a system admin you should look into this for the near future. This is a new security layer for your 'defense-in-depth'. You will hear more from me about whitelisting this year: http://www.knowbe4.com/resources/the-endpoint-security-advantages-of- w hitelisting-a-whitepaper-for-system-administrators/ Warm regards, Stu ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana
RE: OT - ugh!
+1 I had a similar experience. Multiple interviews and in the last one I become unqualified. Person would have been my peer. -Original Message- From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 5:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Cc: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - ugh! Someone further up the hiring chain probably heard your ideas and felt threatened. - Sean On Feb 1, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Jacob Kisner jbdkis...@gmail.com wrote: Because we feel you are not diversified enough to address our issues. Same issues I have addressed over the years poor issue management, no project management, no documentation, crashing servers, IT staff treating the network like a high school lab.. etc. Not only can I stop the bleeding and stabilize the patient (gave then how I would do it), I can implement a more proactive approach to IT management and stop the fires (also gave details.) I guess they rather have the fires... On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Don Kuhlman drkuhl...@yahoo.com wrote: That makes no sense - why do they care where you were for 15 years...Sorry to hear that Jacob. I just started a new position - temp for 9 months, nice place - nice people so far. I'm getting into MAC/Linux support so it's a stretch for me (windows background), but it's a job and a chance to learn. Good luck! Don K From: Jacob Kisner jbdkis...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2012 5:19 PM Subject: OT - ugh! Nothing sucks more than being interviewed for a position at a different company last Tuesday, then being called Thursday to say we are going to offer you a position and finally being told today that we changed our mind... We did not realize you were with the same company for 15 years... WTF? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: The Security Earthquake That Nobody Felt
Sounds like an older version as I remember the push problem. I think we solved it with multiple pushes or was it hand installs? Most of the machines were local. We didn't see the update problems.. It did get better. I wouldn't recommend mcafee more for the AV being at best middle of the pack... -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 8:48 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: The Security Earthquake That Nobody Felt We found that it didn't actually push the clients out as we wanted - it was quite erratic, and would fail more often than we could tolerate - and was *very* slow to update client definitions. The interface was not intuitive, either. It's been about 3 years since I worked with it, so it might have gotten better, but I still won't recommend it. Kurt On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 18:13, Mathew Shember mathew.shem...@synopsys.com wrote: Really? We found ePO rather easy. What problems did you have with it? Vipre wasn't available back then so they went with SEP ;) -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 5:24 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: The Security Earthquake That Nobody Felt We had ePO - it was one of the driving reasons for us to abandon it. The other reason was the unreasonable amount of resources the client sucked out of the workstations. Yet another reason was the price - we got VIPRE Enterprise for the renewal price of McAfee, and the renewal price on VIPRE was hard to beat. Hard to say which reason topped the others - kind of a 3-way tie... Kurt On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 10:56, Mathew Shember mathew.shem...@synopsys.com wrote: I guess the snark wasn't obvious. The AV is tolerable as long as you have ePO going. However, my enlightenment happened when there was a fast moving version of sdbot which snuck by and I had to user higher tiered support. They identified it with Kaspersky. We were going to use ironmail (another company) but decided against it after hearing the announcement. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 4:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: The Security Earthquake That Nobody Felt Well, yes, actually, and they are part of Intel, and have been acquiring companies for themselves - for instance, Secure Computing a few years ago, for their Sidewinder firewalls (which are now McAfee Secure Enterprise Firewalls), among others. I still don't like their AV product, but they haven't yet ruined the firewall... Kurt On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 15:57, Mathew Shember mathew.shem...@synopsys.com wrote: Mcafee is sti in business? - Original Message - From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:s...@sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 02:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: The Security Earthquake That Nobody Felt * The Security Earthquake That Nobody Felt Wow, this is actually major security news. I found this on the blog from Coretrace, and they said: This week, McAfee, one of the two dominant forces in reactive, blacklist-based endpoint security, actively and unequivocally endorsed Application Whitelisting. Ironically, in hard coverage of Symantec's recent problems with pcAnywhere, the industry is actively recommending application whitelisting too. Here is the link: http://www.coretraceblogs.com/2012-01/security-earthquake-that-nobod y - felt-mcafee-endorses-application-whitelisting/ So, what is the big news? It turns security on its head. Instead of keeping bad code out, with application whitelisting (also known as Application Control) you only allow known-good code to run. That's really a 180, and very, very interesting from a system admin perspective. I have done some research in this area and have written a whitepaper about whitelisting, and why as a system admin you should look into this for the near future. This is a new security layer for your 'defense-in-depth'. You will hear more from me about whitelisting this year: http://www.knowbe4.com/resources/the-endpoint-security-advantages-of - w hitelisting-a-whitepaper-for-system-administrators/ Warm regards, Stu ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana
Re: Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF.
It does when its old From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 12:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF. Didn't they also claim that SEP caught malware? Sent from my SR-71 Blackbird From: Louis, Joe jlo...@guardianalarm.com Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 15:21:19 -0500 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF. We disabled ours too but… “Symantec declares pcAnywhere safe to use”, Tuesday, 1/31/2012 http://www.scmagazineuk.com/symantec-declares-pcanywhere-safe-to-use/article/225425/ Looks like they are offering free upgrades; even if you have a no-longer-supported version. “A scan for exposed systems running pcAnywhere found that tens of thousands of installations that could be attacked through unpatched vulnerabilities in the software because they directly communicate with the internet.” This might explain an uptick in PSA ports that were being probed last week ☺ -- Joe Louis From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 4:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF. Zing! My co automagically disabled it on all of our clients whether they like it or not. -- Espi On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 10:55 AM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.commailto:kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: I think ASB posted about it yesterday or the day before. You might see the post next week :-) Sorry, cheap shot :-0 On 27 January 2012 18:16, Stu Sjouwerman s...@sunbelt-software.commailto:s...@sunbelt-software.com wrote: * Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF. You may not have seen this, but Symantec has advised all its users of pcAnywhere to literally turn it off, and wait for security patches. It's old code and it was stolen in 200g and was not updated much. There are several vulnerabilities in encoding and encryption. Here is the white paper with their recommendations: http://www.symantec.com/connect/sites/default/files/pcAnywhere%20Security%20Recommendations%20WP_01_23_Final.pdf Warm regards, Stu ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. * IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER * This document should be read only by those persons to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message it was obviously addressed to you and therefore you can read it, even it we didn't mean to send it to you. However, if the contents of this email make no sense whatsoever then you probably were not the intended recipient, or, alternatively, you are a mindless cretin; either way, you should immediately kill yourself and destroy your computer (not necessarily in that order). Once you have taken this action, please contact us.. no, sorry, you can't use your computer, because you just destroyed it, and possibly also committed suicide afterwards, but I am starting to digress.. The originator of this email is not liable for the transmission of the information contained in this communication. Or are they? Either way it's a pretty dull legal query and frankly one I'm not going to dwell on. But should you have nothing better to do, please feel free to ruminate on it, and please pass on any concrete conclusions should you find them. However, if you pass them on via email, be sure to include a disclaimer regarding liability for transmission. In the event that the originator did not send this email to you, then please return it to us and attach a scanned-in picture of your mother's brother's wife wearing nothing but a kangaroo suit, and we will immediately refund you exactly half of what you paid for the can of Whiskas you bought when you went to Pets At Home yesterday. We take no responsibility for non-receipt of this email because we are running Exchange 5.5 and everyone knows how glitchy that can be. In the event that you do get this message then please note that we take no responsibility for that either. Nor will we accept any liability, tacit or implied, for any damage you may or may not incur as a result of receiving, or not, as the case may be, from time to time, notwithstanding all liabilities implied or otherwise, ummm, hell, where was I...umm, no matter what happens, it
Re: The Security Earthquake That Nobody Felt
Mcafee is sti in business? - Original Message - From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:s...@sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 02:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: The Security Earthquake That Nobody Felt * The Security Earthquake That Nobody Felt Wow, this is actually major security news. I found this on the blog from Coretrace, and they said: This week, McAfee, one of the two dominant forces in reactive, blacklist-based endpoint security, actively and unequivocally endorsed Application Whitelisting. Ironically, in hard coverage of Symantec's recent problems with pcAnywhere, the industry is actively recommending application whitelisting too. Here is the link: http://www.coretraceblogs.com/2012-01/security-earthquake-that-nobody-felt-mcafee-endorses-application-whitelisting/ So, what is the big news? It turns security on its head. Instead of keeping bad code out, with application whitelisting (also known as Application Control) you only allow known-good code to run. That's really a 180, and very, very interesting from a system admin perspective. I have done some research in this area and have written a whitepaper about whitelisting, and why as a system admin you should look into this for the near future. This is a new security layer for your 'defense-in-depth'. You will hear more from me about whitelisting this year: http://www.knowbe4.com/resources/the-endpoint-security-advantages-of-whitelisting-a-whitepaper-for-system-administrators/ Warm regards, Stu ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Farscape
Indeed. I liked it enough to pick up the series. That's funny. Just watched Dark Crystal with my girl and she enjoyed it too! *shifty eyes* No I am not stalking you. From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 6:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Farscape +1 for Farscape Watched the entire series while it was on the air, and loved it. Speaking of the Dark Crystal.. just watched it with my 5 year old daughter on NetFlix, and she really enjoyed t. Christopher Bodnar Technical Support III, Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 christopher_bod...@glic.commailto: [cid:image001.jpg@01CCDC09.E2066CB0] The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America www.guardianlife.comhttp://www.guardianlife.com/ From:Steven Peck sep...@gmail.commailto:sep...@gmail.com To:NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date:01/26/2012 12:39 AM Subject:Re: Farscape Farscape was an awesome series and I doubt it. His son was involved withthe project as a producer and later bought rights to it. Jim Henson produced Dark Crystal (which I think was underrated) and his goal was the advancement of pupetry. On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.commailto:michealespin...@gmail.com wrote: I recently started watching this old show on Netflix. They really excelled at introducing truly annoying characters, and kept one as a primary puppet character the entire time. I wonder if Jim Henson was turning in his grave... -- Espi ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmininline: image001.jpg
RE: Is the Office 2010 license key same for 32 bit 64 bit
I did a quick look at the volume license site and it only has one key. Thanks, Mathew From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 7:33 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is the Office 2010 license key same for 32 bit 64 bit We don't have the Office Suite but we do have Visio 2010 and there doesn't seem to be any differentiation between 32 and 64 bit keys. John W. Cook Network Manager Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4, MCVP From: Todd Lemmiksoo [mailto:tlemmik...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 9:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Is the Office 2010 license key same for 32 bit 64 bit Can one use the license key that came with Office 2010 32 bit for a 64 bit office 2010 install? -- T. Todd Lemmiksoo ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: What would you call this IT position?
Yup. Bad economy and people think Hey, we can get good talent for nothing!!! When the economy picks up and people bolt, they are shocked as if they did the person a favor. Oh well... From: ed ziots [mailto:ezi...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 9:37 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What would you call this IT position? Yeah, Id have to agree on the price, but the new norm is the same high level work at 1/2 the price just to get back into the job market. Z Edward E. Ziots Senior Informational Security Engineer CISSP,Security +,Network+ From: mathew.shem...@synopsys.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: What would you call this IT position? Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 23:01:38 + Isn't that more like Robin prices? ;-) Thanks, Mathew From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 2:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: What would you call this IT position? Yeah, I've had similar situations happen. Everyone wants Superman at Batman prices. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBakerhttp://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Webster webs...@carlwebster.commailto:webs...@carlwebster.com wrote: I had someone contact me about this $45K to $60K a year position. Told them this was a 6 figure salary job position: JOB DUTIES: *Must have a solid foundation in Citrix XenApp (Citrix Presentation Server), XenDesktop, and Nescaler from initial installation through all troubleshooting aspects in a multiple production server WMWare and Windows 2003 or 2008 environments. Knowledge of the entire Citrix Xen Suite is a must. *Collaborate with the applications team on application integration; ensuring IT standards are followed within reason *Must have experience designing, deploying and supporting large scale Citrix environments, and experience with designing, developing, and supporting multiple Citrix farms. * Need experience with XenApp 5.0, XenDesktop 4.0, and Netscaler VPX 200 9.3 or higher. * Additionally, provide system services such as storage management, high-availability and performance management QUALIFICATIONS: * Four year College Degree with major in Computer Science, Information Technology or equivalent experience * 7+ years Information technology experience, preferably within a healthcare environment *5 + years Citrix (XenApp, XenDesktop, Netscaler) * 3 + years VMware ESX / vSphere experience (minimum, level 3 skills (technical scale of 1 to 4) in the area of VMware vSphere) * 5+ years experience implementing and managing Windows 2000 / 2003 /2008 Server environments with Active Directory (minimum, level 4 skills (technical scale of 1 to 4) in the area of Microsoft Windows server with Active Directory administration and support) * 5+ years managing Microsoft Exchange 2003/2007 environments * 2+ years EMC storage management experience LICENSES/CERTIFICATIONS: *Certification: Citrix Certified Professional (CCP) - [Webster: no such certification exists] * Certification: VMWare Certified Professional (VCP) - * Certification: Cisco Certified Network Professional (CCNP) - * Certification: ITIL v2 or V3 Foundations- * Certification: Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer (MCSE) - Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/ From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.commailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 3:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: What would you call this IT position? Did %dayjob% go out and do a salary survey on their particular position name? They might want to see if it exists... On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:53 PM, James Kerr cluster...@gmail.commailto:cluster...@gmail.com wrote: I would call it something like network support specialist but that's just me. Instead %dayjob% came up with a name for the position which may actually make it harder for me to find someone to fill it. James JOB SUMMARY The IS Technical Support Assistant is responsible for maintaining, analyzing, troubleshooting and repairing local area network (LAN) and telecommunications equipment and software. Documents, maintains upgrades or replaces network hardware and software systems. Assists manager to ensure the optimal operation and performance of all network computers and associated hardware. JOB RESPONSIBILITIES Provides technical assistance to internal customers at all company sites. Installs software (operating systems, custom software, office productivity software) according to company standards and procedures. Monitors the company IT help desk and provides primary (level one) support and technical issue resolution to all end users. Changes backup tapes daily
RE: What would you call this IT position?
Oh I have heard the other side of that guys comment. Companies don't want people trained because they will leave. There is also the retarded logic of recruiters an hr people where if you are unemployed, you are un-hirable. When my wife was unemployed she ran into that where she was basically told Derp, but you are not working! I kid you not but a friend was actually told to call the company when he found a job?!!?!!?? Thanks, Mathew -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 11:33 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: What would you call this IT position? On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Heaton, Joseph@DFG jhea...@dfg.ca.gov wrote: And with a surplus of tech people, they're going to get away with it. Might be a surplus of tech people, but not good tech people. When trying to find minions I've gotten almost no responses from people not currently employed at apparently high positions. Most of the unemployed canidates have been unemployed for obvious reasons. One guy actually said, when asked about documentation he did at this last job, They didn't want me to know what I was doing. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Whoa...wkikpedia.
Indeed. I remember panicking because a needed book was missing from the library. You roll with the punches. From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 6:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Whoa...wkikpedia. 'Fail classes because of it'? A) over-melodramatic B) tough shit. Best they learn to do real off-line lookups as well then. From: Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 18:17:10 -0500 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Whoa...wkikpedia. Yeah...bunch of high school and college kids are going to fail some classes because of it. It's a good cause, but probably not the best way to go about it. http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2012/01/18/help-us-help-youend-piracy-not-liberty/ From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 4:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Whoa...wkikpedia. Anyone been there today? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: What would you call this IT position?
Isn't that more like Robin prices? ;-) Thanks, Mathew From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 2:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: What would you call this IT position? Yeah, I've had similar situations happen. Everyone wants Superman at Batman prices. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Webster webs...@carlwebster.commailto:webs...@carlwebster.com wrote: I had someone contact me about this $45K to $60K a year position. Told them this was a 6 figure salary job position: JOB DUTIES: *Must have a solid foundation in Citrix XenApp (Citrix Presentation Server), XenDesktop, and Nescaler from initial installation through all troubleshooting aspects in a multiple production server WMWare and Windows 2003 or 2008 environments. Knowledge of the entire Citrix Xen Suite is a must. *Collaborate with the applications team on application integration; ensuring IT standards are followed within reason *Must have experience designing, deploying and supporting large scale Citrix environments, and experience with designing, developing, and supporting multiple Citrix farms. * Need experience with XenApp 5.0, XenDesktop 4.0, and Netscaler VPX 200 9.3 or higher. * Additionally, provide system services such as storage management, high-availability and performance management QUALIFICATIONS: * Four year College Degree with major in Computer Science, Information Technology or equivalent experience * 7+ years Information technology experience, preferably within a healthcare environment *5 + years Citrix (XenApp, XenDesktop, Netscaler) * 3 + years VMware ESX / vSphere experience (minimum, level 3 skills (technical scale of 1 to 4) in the area of VMware vSphere) * 5+ years experience implementing and managing Windows 2000 / 2003 /2008 Server environments with Active Directory (minimum, level 4 skills (technical scale of 1 to 4) in the area of Microsoft Windows server with Active Directory administration and support) * 5+ years managing Microsoft Exchange 2003/2007 environments * 2+ years EMC storage management experience LICENSES/CERTIFICATIONS: *Certification: Citrix Certified Professional (CCP) - [Webster: no such certification exists] * Certification: VMWare Certified Professional (VCP) - * Certification: Cisco Certified Network Professional (CCNP) - * Certification: ITIL v2 or V3 Foundations- * Certification: Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer (MCSE) - Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/ From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.commailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 3:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: What would you call this IT position? Did %dayjob% go out and do a salary survey on their particular position name? They might want to see if it exists... On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:53 PM, James Kerr cluster...@gmail.commailto:cluster...@gmail.com wrote: I would call it something like network support specialist but that's just me. Instead %dayjob% came up with a name for the position which may actually make it harder for me to find someone to fill it. James JOB SUMMARY The IS Technical Support Assistant is responsible for maintaining, analyzing, troubleshooting and repairing local area network (LAN) and telecommunications equipment and software. Documents, maintains upgrades or replaces network hardware and software systems. Assists manager to ensure the optimal operation and performance of all network computers and associated hardware. JOB RESPONSIBILITIES Provides technical assistance to internal customers at all company sites. Installs software (operating systems, custom software, office productivity software) according to company standards and procedures. Monitors the company IT help desk and provides primary (level one) support and technical issue resolution to all end users. Changes backup tapes daily for company servers and checks to make sure backup jobs were successful. Deploys workstations to end users, upgrades computers by adding more memory, faster processors and updating software when necessary. Maintains, replaces and repairs computer hardware, network hardware and assists Information Services Manager with servers. Sets up user accounts for new employees, makes changes to user accounts as needed in active directory and agency applications. Assists Information Services Manager with creation and changes mailboxes in Microsoft Exchange. Assists Information Services Manager with the maintenance of antivirus software for all end user computers and servers. Creates, maintains and updates documentation of company websites. Documents and inventories network devices and configurations.
RE: bougt the book
But is it autographed? :p Didn't know there was a kindle version. Think my copy might be outdated. Time for a new one. :) From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 9:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: bougt the book Brian's book is a very useful resource and reference tool. (Broken record here) I registered my book on oreilly.com, paid $4.99 and got the Kindle, epub, and PDF versions. Copy those files to the appropriate devices and I have Brian's book with me all the time. Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/ From: David Lum david@nwea.orgmailto:david@nwea.org Reply-To: NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 16:08:07 + To: NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: bougt the book Book bought. I expect big things Brian! :) Dave From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 1:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Concur for expense management You mean...buy the book? Get out... From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com]mailto:[mailto:r...@pge.com] Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 11:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Concur for expense management Without going in to all the gory details, Brian's homegrown glue is reference is fairly spot on :) From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]mailto:[mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 2:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Concur for expense management Wait - Concur is telling us we need ADFS 2.0 to use SAML. How do you do it without ADFS? From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com]mailto:[mailto:r...@pge.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 1:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Concur for expense management Ditto. We went from our old internal hosted to external Concur last year using SAML for authN. No ADFS. From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com]mailto:[mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 7:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Concur for expense management the 2003 to 2003 R2 is very simple. More like adding additional features, than a true OS upgrade. You should be fine. No issues. We use Concur here, but do not have federation services configured. Chris Bodnar, MCSE, MCITP Technical Support III Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life Insurance Company of America Email: christopher_bod...@glic.commailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com Phone: 610-807-6459 Fax: 610-807-6003 From:David Lum david@nwea.orgmailto:david@nwea.org To:NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date:01/04/2012 09:17 AM Subject:Concur for expense management Does anyone here use Concur for expense management? I need to configure Federation with them and they sent me a SAML document and it looks like I need to install ADFS...which requires 2003 R2 and we don't have any 2003 R2 servers, ours are straight 2003. It's not a big deal to stand up a 2003 R2 DC in a 2003 domain is it? Is an in-place upgrade possible? I seem to think on the 2003 versions, 2003 and 2003 R2 are very similar. David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with
RE: Expaning Subnet again
I’ve heard this 100 times. From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 3:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Expaning Subnet again Now I’ve heard it 11 times ☺ From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 4:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Expaning Subnet again There are only 10 types of people in the world, those that understand binary and those that don't! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]mailto:[mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 05:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Expaning Subnet again Yup, and yes, you should be very familiar with binary. It’s what everything is based on, afterall. ☺ From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 3:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Expaning Subnet again Just to get things right: if i go with Subnet: 255.255.252.0 I can then have my range from: 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.3.255 with 192.168.0.0 = Subnet Address and 192.168.3.255 = Broadcast Address. And yes I did get the Advanced Subnet Calculator, do I really need to count 0 and 1, it was like 40 year ago I took Binary in school. Anyhow thanks all for your help as usual. Stefan On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Heaton, Joseph@DFG jhea...@dfg.ca.govmailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov wrote: .255 is broadcast Joe Heaton ITB – Windows Server Support From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.commailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 10:31 AM To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Expaning Subnet again Yes I have x.0 and x.256 excluded anyhow, and assume the brodcast is 192.168.3.256 not 254, right. On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 09:07, Stefan Jafs stefan.j...@gmail.commailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com wrote: I know we already talked about extending IP’s last week, however, I’m trying to figure out how to add additional ranges and can’t seem to figure it out. I currently have 192.168.0.0 – 192.168.0.256 and 192.168.1.1 – 192168.1.256 with a subnet Mask of 255.255.254.0. If I change the subnet to 255.255.252.0, can I then simply add: 192.168.2.0 – 192.168.2.256 and 192.168.3.0 – 192.168.3.256? Aside from the fact that you should not use 192.168.0.0 or 192.168.1.0 [1], you will at that point have a single subnet of 192.168.0.0 to 192.168.3.255, with 192.168.0.0 being your subnet address and 192.168.3.254 being your broadcast address. Kurt [1] Too much consumer and other equipment uses those to /24 subnets as their default, and people don't tend to change them. Thus, using them is not a good idea, especially if you have people connecting via VPN to your environment. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Stefan Jafs ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Stefan Jafs ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or
RE: Huge Security Breach At Security Firm Symantec No Threat To Consumers, Analyst Says | Fox News
Better talk to Rupert Murdoch.. Thanks, Mathew From: leedoug...@pellis.com [mailto:leedoug...@pellis.com] On Behalf Of Lee Douglas Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 11:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Huge Security Breach At Security Firm Symantec No Threat To Consumers, Analyst Says | Fox News http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/01/06/symantec-source-code-theft-likely-no-threat-to-average-user-analyst-says/#xdm_e=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxnews.comxdm_c=default5605xdm_p=1?test=latestnews ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Big brother, not many care that he's here.
It takes less effort to wait until they are kicking down your door. Thanks, Mathew From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 8:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Big brother, not many care that he's here. 1984 is here, and most people couldn't care less because the benefits of the technology outweigh any privacy concerns. And that will continue to be the case until individuals encounter specific situations that impact them personally. The theoretical dangers will persuade very, very few... ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 10:21 AM, David Lum david@nwea.orgmailto:david@nwea.org wrote: This CarrierIQ thing brings up a thought. With a smartphones and other current technology it is now entirely possible to have your every action recorded. Who you talk to, what you way, what you and they look like, where you are and how long you've been there and where you went next and how fast did you travel to get there. 1984 is here, and most people couldn't care less because the benefits of the technology outweigh any privacy concerns. The only way to partially opt out is to not have a smartphone and drive an older car, because even then when you walk into stores and make purchases you are still being watched by cameras/banks. Using cash would get you a little more stealth Thoughts? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229tel:503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764tel:503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Google, What Happened To 'Do No Evil'?
Ignorantly asks Lie about it? They have problems with the truth ? Thanks, Mathew -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 5:15 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Google, What Happened To 'Do No Evil'? On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 7:02 PM, David blazer...@gmail.com wrote: Found a source saying that Verizon phones do not. Verizon has issued a statement saying that they're not using CarrerIQ. But others have found CarrierIQ reporting to servers with vzw in their names. Given Verizon's history, I would expect Verizon to simply lie about it. http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/carrieriq-plot-thickens-2023/ -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Moving on, leaving the list for a bit
Congrats and best of luck! -Original Message- From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 12:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Moving on, leaving the list for a bit I just wanted to reach out to the list, that I am going to be moving on from my Security Engineer position in two weeks, to a senior security engineer position with another company. I am going to be leaving the list for a little bit, but I would like to let you know that a few of my present co-workers will be joining the list to get in on the great information shared by everyone. Also if you are using SEP and want to share some tidbit of information on your pain or pleasure with the product and what you use to design/deploy and troubleshoot it everyday please feel free to reach out to me at this email for the next 2 weeks. Sincerely, EZ Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization email:ezi...@lifespan.org phone:401-639-3505 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Debugging tool suggestions
Pretty much both. I suspect he wants new toys to use. Thanks for the suggestion. Mathew -Original Message- From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 10:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Debugging tool suggestions LUA Buglight can be handy for working out perms-related issues. Is he looking for full debug tools such as those used to read BSODs and the like, or just general troubleshooting tools? --Original Message-- From: Mathew Shember To: NT System Admin Issues ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Debugging tool suggestions Sent: 21 Nov 2011 18:26 I have a user asking for suggestions on more debugging utils. He uses process monitor and explorer and was wondering if there was anything else? He doesn't have a specific need; just look for a new toy I guess. Thanks! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Sent from my SR-71 Blackbird ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Debugging tool suggestions
Thank you for the suggestion. I remember reading about it and though I should look into this but forgot. -Original Message- From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 10:38 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Debugging tool suggestions Xperf is the new big thing The actual Debugging Tools for Windows package... With no context the question is kind of hard to answer. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com w - 312.625.1438 | c - 312.731.3132 -Original Message- From: Mathew Shember [mailto:mathew.shem...@synopsys.com] Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 12:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Debugging tool suggestions I have a user asking for suggestions on more debugging utils. He uses process monitor and explorer and was wondering if there was anything else? He doesn't have a specific need; just look for a new toy I guess. Thanks! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Debugging tool suggestions
I have a user asking for suggestions on more debugging utils. He uses process monitor and explorer and was wondering if there was anything else? He doesn't have a specific need; just look for a new toy I guess. Thanks! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Debugging tool suggestions
Thanks! I will have a look. The user is a software engineer so it would be along those lines. -Original Message- From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 10:38 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Debugging tool suggestions Xperf is the new big thing The actual Debugging Tools for Windows package... With no context the question is kind of hard to answer. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com w - 312.625.1438 | c - 312.731.3132 -Original Message- From: Mathew Shember [mailto:mathew.shem...@synopsys.com] Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 12:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Debugging tool suggestions I have a user asking for suggestions on more debugging utils. He uses process monitor and explorer and was wondering if there was anything else? He doesn't have a specific need; just look for a new toy I guess. Thanks! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: [OT] Stats about IT
Do we need a month? It only seems to happen 2.3% of the time. -Original Message- From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 10:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT This just in, November declared OT month for NTSYSADMIN List! I hate McDonald's, but I'm lovin' this. -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 11:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [OT] Stats about IT On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: Banjos Rock! Stereotypes suck. Shooky said stuff like that all the time. I think you mean Shooky said stuff like that 98.7% of the time. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: [OT] Stats about IT
We think we are 97.7% of the time. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 10:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [OT] Stats about IT You mean 2.3% of the time we're on-topic, right? On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Mathew Shember mathew.shem...@synopsys.commailto:mathew.shem...@synopsys.com wrote: Do we need a month? It only seems to happen 2.3% of the time. -Original Message- From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.commailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 10:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT This just in, November declared OT month for NTSYSADMIN List! I hate McDonald's, but I'm lovin' this. -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.commailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 11:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [OT] Stats about IT On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: Banjos Rock! Stereotypes suck. Shooky said stuff like that all the time. I think you mean Shooky said stuff like that 98.7% of the time. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: [OT] Stats about IT
I heard that 95% of women are grumpy in the morning. From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 10:37 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT Who the heck is the she you're referring to, dude? I heard that 93.7% of the people on this list make assumptions about gender based on a person's name. :) From: Alverson, Tom (Xetron) (ESS) [mailto:tom.alver...@ngc.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 10:37 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT She meant to say 95.3% are. From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 10:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: EXT :RE: [OT] Stats about IT Or just make them up...as 95% of all statistics are. From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 9:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [OT] Stats about IT You're going to want to check with the research firms: Gartner, IDC, Forrester, ITIC, etc (http://itic-corp.com/) Additionally, Google the question and see what references you find... ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Oliver Marshall oliver.marsh...@g2support.commailto:oliver.marsh...@g2support.com wrote: Does anyone know of a good source of statistics about IT? I'm thinking of the kind of thing we can use in reports or to bring up on topics like 80% of companies see a return on investment from an increase in IT spend, 20% of companies without backup fail in a year, 40% of IT Managers go mad in the first year that kind of thing. Olly [cid:image003.png@01CC9943.D9DC1700] Network Support Online Backups Server Management [http://www.g2support.com/googleapps.jpg] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmininline: image001.jpg
RE: Knowbe4 website
As did I... Thanks, Mathew -Original Message- From: Terry Dickson [mailto:te...@treasurer.state.ks.us] Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 8:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Knowbe4 website I just tried it and I got there? -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 9:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Knowbe4 website Anyone know what happened to the Knowbe4 website? After months of getting calls from them I'm finally able to bring it up at our security meeting and now I can't get to it. www.knowbe4.com Not Found The requested URL / was not found on this server. Apache/2.2.14 (Ubuntu) Server at www.knowbe4.com Port 80 -Paul ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail and any attachments are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you do not have permission to disclose, copy, distribute, or open any attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by returning it to the sender and delete this copy from your system. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Unix Backups
Trying to figure out how unix backups turns into political economics.. -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 10:00 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Unix Backups On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Um, whoever owns the guns owns the means of production. You confuse ownership with control. I expect you also confuse can control with does control. What is ownership, if not control? And vice versa? http://dictionary.reference.com/ -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: DigiNotar compromise
Property rights should never be absolute. I had neighbor who decided he was going to make his own fuel. His “rights” were violated when the local authorities were notified and he was shut down by the fire marshal.The fire marshal mentioned his “gerry rigged” setup would have eventually exploded and would burned down a couple houses in the process. A little regulation is a good thing. From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 8:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: DigiNotar compromise Alrighty then. If you want us all to be more precise, I'll restate: Laws and regulations that inhibit the free exercise of individual's rights to their own property and right of contract (and by individuals I don't mean corporations), deny the ability of the participants in the marketplace (i.e., those who are buying and selling) to gain a correct signal in regard to supply and demand. If you can't sell what you have to me at a price and under conditions agreed to by both of us, we will not be making a transaction that satisfies our full mutual requirements. One of us, buyer or seller, will be come out behind on the transaction. Government regulations are by definition anti-competitive. This is basic economics. Kurt On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 19:53, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.commailto:asbz...@gmail.com wrote: The *market* makes decisions? Where is this mythical market? The market is based on people, and if they can't be trusted to make good decisions without oversight when grouped together under the banner of government, they cannot be trusted to do so when grouped together under the banner of corporation or market. People, as we have oft observed on this very list, tend to make very bad decision -- more so in groups. *Theoretically* a free market system will operate better than many others under most circumstances, but in practice, a *little* bit of regulation is needed to make sure that the rules largely remain throughout the game the way they did at the beginning of the game. Most regulation, it might easily be observed, has come about when the leaders in a given market got too free with said market, to the detriment of other players in that market. But hey, don't let reality stop you from fawning over what could be... Oh, and I fully expect that in addition to iPhone thread! we're now going to have to endure months of DigiNotar thread! ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: And in practice. Outside the textbook, laws and regulation which don't respect property and contract rights robs the market of its ability to make decisions. On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 13:28, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.commailto:asbz...@gmail.com wrote: A free market doesn't guarantee good results, just better results than anything else. In theory. Outside of the textbook, the abundant use of free market often requires regulatory intervention... ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 10:28, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.commailto:mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 11:05 PM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.commailto:k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: There's no rule that says that has to happen. It would appear that most people chose price over security, and so far that has generally meant that those who value security more are left without any really satisfying vendor. If there's a market, or even if someone thinks there's a market, plus a way to make it profitable, then you can bet someone will start something up. You ignore startup costs, network effects, and other barriers-to-entry. Start, sure. Succeed or see any real adoption? Not so certain. The free market is not a panacea. A free market doesn't guarantee good results, just better results than anything else. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
RE: DigiNotar compromise
Ok. When I hear “property rights” people using that phrase tend to argue it’s absolute. Anyhow. Let’s not bury the group with political economic theory. How about starting an OS holy war? :p Thanks, Mathew From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 9:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: DigiNotar compromise Your example is an example of protecting the equal rights of all to their own selves and property. If the judgement of the fire marshal was correct, then he was correcting a clear and present danger to the lives and property of those likely to be affected by the fuel maker's mistakes. On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 21:12, Mathew Shember mathew.shem...@synopsys.commailto:mathew.shem...@synopsys.com wrote: Property rights should never be absolute. I had neighbor who decided he was going to make his own fuel. His “rights” were violated when the local authorities were notified and he was shut down by the fire marshal.The fire marshal mentioned his “gerry rigged” setup would have eventually exploded and would burned down a couple houses in the process. A little regulation is a good thing. From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 8:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: DigiNotar compromise Alrighty then. If you want us all to be more precise, I'll restate: Laws and regulations that inhibit the free exercise of individual's rights to their own property and right of contract (and by individuals I don't mean corporations), deny the ability of the participants in the marketplace (i.e., those who are buying and selling) to gain a correct signal in regard to supply and demand. If you can't sell what you have to me at a price and under conditions agreed to by both of us, we will not be making a transaction that satisfies our full mutual requirements. One of us, buyer or seller, will be come out behind on the transaction. Government regulations are by definition anti-competitive. This is basic economics. Kurt On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 19:53, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.commailto:asbz...@gmail.com wrote: The *market* makes decisions? Where is this mythical market? The market is based on people, and if they can't be trusted to make good decisions without oversight when grouped together under the banner of government, they cannot be trusted to do so when grouped together under the banner of corporation or market. People, as we have oft observed on this very list, tend to make very bad decision -- more so in groups. *Theoretically* a free market system will operate better than many others under most circumstances, but in practice, a *little* bit of regulation is needed to make sure that the rules largely remain throughout the game the way they did at the beginning of the game. Most regulation, it might easily be observed, has come about when the leaders in a given market got too free with said market, to the detriment of other players in that market. But hey, don't let reality stop you from fawning over what could be... Oh, and I fully expect that in addition to iPhone thread! we're now going to have to endure months of DigiNotar thread! ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: And in practice. Outside the textbook, laws and regulation which don't respect property and contract rights robs the market of its ability to make decisions. On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 13:28, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.commailto:asbz...@gmail.com wrote: A free market doesn't guarantee good results, just better results than anything else. In theory. Outside of the textbook, the abundant use of free market often requires regulatory intervention... ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 10:28, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.commailto:mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 11:05 PM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.commailto:k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: There's no rule that says that has to happen. It would appear that most people chose price over security, and so far that has generally meant that those who value security more are left without any really satisfying vendor. If there's a market, or even if someone thinks there's a market, plus a way to make it profitable, then you can bet someone will start something up. You ignore startup costs, network effects, and other barriers-to-entry. Start, sure. Succeed or see any real adoption? Not so certain. The free market is not a panacea. A free market doesn't guarantee good results, just better results than anything else. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T
RE: OT: PMI PMP Certification
Congrats. From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 12:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: PMI PMP Certification For everyone who was waiting with bated breath... I took the exam today and passed! What's next? I'm thinking ITIL... John From: john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 14:13:32 -0400 Subject: OT: PMI PMP Certification I was wondering if there were any certified PMPs out there that could give me pointers on the exam. I had planned on taking it in around two months, but I just caught wind of the fact PMI is changing it on August 31. So now I'm cramming to see if I can get it done before the change. I took two project management courses in grad school pretty recently, and am currently reading a couple of PMP study guides. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.ushttp://www.taylor.k12.fl.us ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
Indeed. We have many engineers who program from laptops. Desktops are still around but they are for people who need more power than laptops can provide... Thanks, Mathew From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 4:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares Ditto that a laptop should not supplant a desktop, You may not have noticed, but laptop sales have long eclipsed desktop sales, even though desktops remain capable of much more power than laptops, particularly at the same price points. * http://www.techshout.com/laptops/2008/24/laptop-sales-overtake-desktop-pc-sales/ * http://news.techworld.com/sme/3227696/desktop-and-laptop-sales-to-grow-this-year/ Power is not the only consideration in a computing purchase, and is often not even the primary consideration. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:45 AM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: My point is that it's important to have the most capable device first. Anything else should come thereafter. As a much less capable device, a tablet is a luxury, and should not replace a computer. Ditto that a laptop should not supplant a desktop, and for a company a desktop should not supplant a server where a server is needed. On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 21:18, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.commailto:scaes...@caesare.com wrote: Many such devices are cheaper than a computer with its all-important keyboard. So what is your point? -sc -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 11:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 21:21, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.commailto:scaes...@caesare.com wrote: This point seems to be lost on many. There are many services to be consumed in this day and age that do not require a full computer, and for which a complete PC, or even laptop, actually can be a disadvantage. There's room for multiple devices in the ecosystem. Has been for some time. Only if you can afford them all. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
Oh I am not saying the tablet is a joke. I realize it's here to stay. As mentioned I worked on getting the ipad access for our citrix setup. Until the wife returns to work(she has been out for a long time); it's rather hard to justify it. [1] Hope you have better luck then I have had. They are gone in my area. As to ipad with adults to children? It's probably just my luck or people prefer iphone and ipod. Those are everywhere. Thanks, Mathew From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares I can't seem to justify $700 for en email reader and a game player for my kid. Not suggesting that you do that. I wouldn't, and haven't. In fact, I haven't purchased a tablet for personal use up to this point, because the price point doesn't work for me. Yet. [1] But, at %dayjob% and for various customers, I recognize the value of tablets and have my team working on supporting them for various functions. There is competitive value there, especially for the sales marketing folks. Anecdotally speaking, I see iPad more in kids hands then I do the adults. I see them in far more adult hands, than children. Probably 5 to 1. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... [1] I'm hunting down two $99 HP TouchPads, though. On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 12:30 AM, Mathew Shember mathew.shem...@synopsys.commailto:mathew.shem...@synopsys.com wrote: Well? I can't seem to justify $700 for en email reader and a game player for my kid. If somebody gave me one, I would use it. Anecdotally speaking, I see iPad more in kids hands then I do the adults. Thanks, Mathew From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.commailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares This point seems to be lost on many. There are many services to be consumed in this day and age that do not require a full computer, and for which a complete PC, or even laptop, actually can be a disadvantage. There's room for multiple devices in the ecosystem. Has been for some time. -sc From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.commailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 12:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares If you insist on using a tablet exactly as a PC (or even a laptop), then you'll be sorely disappointed. Most people who adopt them (tablets) use the new tool differently from the old tool. It's not like most people with laptops in a corporate environment are actually using a reasonable percentage of its inherent advantages. Additionally, many people are using their smart phones which are even more inconvenient than tablets, to accomplish some of the work they used to perform on PCs. Tablets give them a *richer* experience, from this standpoint, hence the growing adoption rate. I'm pretty sure that is we substitute PC for tablet and go back 16-20 years, there'd be no distinguishing the arguments being used. Yet, here we are. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: The benefits and costs of distributing books electronically is not tied to the use of tablets. You can use a PC to read a PDF or other digital media just as well as on a tablet, and do much more besides, given the cost differential - once you take into account the peripherals needed to make the tablet as useful as a more traditional laptop or PC. The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the supposed advantages. Kurt On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 18:00, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: You're still mostly wooshing here. Never did I say I bought into these concepts, but this is how it often appears to the uninitiated into the arcane art of IT. I, of course, know that mainframes didn't die, but most of the work of the data processing department was subsumed in many organizations by business units closer to the data, and this was accelerated by the adoption of the PC and PC networks. And have you measured that against the cost of textbooks? I know a lot of administrators are crunching these numbers right now... On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 13:21, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: To put it another way, the data processing group got put out to pasture of days gone by was blindsided by the PC revolution. Not really - they just morphed into the IT staff of today - server administrators. And, mainframes haven't disappeared - again
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How are the reports on eye strain? Are the kids liking them? Thanks, Mathew -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 5:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares Management of an e-reader is WAY simpler than management of a PC, though (assuming the e-reader has enterprise management tools, which remains a huge assumption). A couple of years ago, we had a one-to-one laptop initiative with all of our 8th and 9th grade students. It was extremely labor-intensive; no matter how tightly we locked down the computers, there was always some way kids could screw them up. And battery life was constantly an issue. Basic e-readers will obviously do much less than PCs, but there's also a lot less to go wrong with them. They're much more feasible for schools. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 11:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares The benefits and costs of distributing books electronically is not tied to the use of tablets. You can use a PC to read a PDF or other digital media just as well as on a tablet, and do much more besides, given the cost differential - once you take into account the peripherals needed to make the tablet as useful as a more traditional laptop or PC. The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the supposed advantages. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
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Goodness. You would think I said I eat kittens. ;) I did say personally. I didn't say there was no use for them. Certain job functions they are extremely usefully.Our marketing guys use them for presentations and email for example. Unfortunately; I still need a laptop for certain things.. Thanks, Mathew From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 6:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares And there are folks who do media creation and review for which they are 10x more convenient than a laptop. The org that we have a support contract with is doing a medical survey involving 100,000 subjects, and they are far more useful as a clipboard replacement than a laptop would be. Just because you don't find them to be a value proposition doesn't mean there aren't very valid use cases for them. -sc From: Mathew Shember [mailto:mathew.shem...@synopsys.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 12:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares Well? I can't seem to justify $700 for en email reader and a game player for my kid. If somebody gave me one, I would use it. Anecdotally speaking, I see iPad more in kids hands then I do the adults. Thanks, Mathew From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares This point seems to be lost on many. There are many services to be consumed in this day and age that do not require a full computer, and for which a complete PC, or even laptop, actually can be a disadvantage. There's room for multiple devices in the ecosystem. Has been for some time. -sc From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 12:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares If you insist on using a tablet exactly as a PC (or even a laptop), then you'll be sorely disappointed. Most people who adopt them (tablets) use the new tool differently from the old tool. It's not like most people with laptops in a corporate environment are actually using a reasonable percentage of its inherent advantages. Additionally, many people are using their smart phones which are even more inconvenient than tablets, to accomplish some of the work they used to perform on PCs. Tablets give them a *richer* experience, from this standpoint, hence the growing adoption rate. I'm pretty sure that is we substitute PC for tablet and go back 16-20 years, there'd be no distinguishing the arguments being used. Yet, here we are. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: The benefits and costs of distributing books electronically is not tied to the use of tablets. You can use a PC to read a PDF or other digital media just as well as on a tablet, and do much more besides, given the cost differential - once you take into account the peripherals needed to make the tablet as useful as a more traditional laptop or PC. The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the supposed advantages. Kurt On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 18:00, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: You're still mostly wooshing here. Never did I say I bought into these concepts, but this is how it often appears to the uninitiated into the arcane art of IT. I, of course, know that mainframes didn't die, but most of the work of the data processing department was subsumed in many organizations by business units closer to the data, and this was accelerated by the adoption of the PC and PC networks. And have you measured that against the cost of textbooks? I know a lot of administrators are crunching these numbers right now... On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 13:21, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: To put it another way, the data processing group got put out to pasture of days gone by was blindsided by the PC revolution. Not really - they just morphed into the IT staff of today - server administrators. And, mainframes haven't disappeared - again, it's the minis that got squeezed. IBM still makes a buncha money on mainframes. The current generation of tablets are probably the most compelling piece of technology since then. Perhaps. I've yet to be convinced. Teachers and administrators are very interested in tablets because they believe they offer so much more capability for viewing and distributing content! The SJRDF is strong, 'tis true. I think the only advantage they show is weight, and a multi-touch screen
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But doesn't the laptop offer greater warmth? ;) Thanks, Mathew From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 7:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares And sometimes I use my iPhone, but I don't bring a notebook or netbook to bed. It's just too unwieldy. Scrolling on pages is annoying enough on those devices. Use keypad to scroll, accidentally brush something and lose focus on the page, have to click or alt-tab, and I'm getting frustrated instead of relaxing. On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 10:21 AM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.orgmailto:john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: I just use my Blackberry... John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610tel:%28352%29%20244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944tel:%28352%29%20215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 10:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares On your back? Holding it like a book above your head? Let your toddler have at it, too? I'm sorry, a netbook is nice, but it's a bit too much like a computer to make it convenient in bed, IMO. And the form factor/screen resolution is usually suboptimal... On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Yawn. I do that on my netbook (an older Acer Aspire One) all the time. On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 20:52, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: Very well. iPhone thread. On point. Books are content. The ability to manipulate the content isn't the issue. Being able to deliver it easily is. That being said I'm writing this response lying flat on my back in bed because I wanted to check my mail before turning in. Do all that on a PC under the same conditions and we can talk. On Monday, August 22, 2011, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: The benefits and costs of distributing books electronically is not tied to the use of tablets. You can use a PC to read a PDF or other digital media just as well as on a tablet, and do much more besides, given the cost differential - once you take into account the peripherals needed to make the tablet as useful as a more traditional laptop or PC. The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the supposed advantages. Kurt On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 18:00, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: You're still mostly wooshing here. Never did I say I bought into these concepts, but this is how it often appears to the uninitiated into the arcane art of IT. I, of course, know that mainframes didn't die, but most of the work of the data processing department was subsumed in many organizations by business units closer to the data, and this was accelerated by the adoption of the PC and PC networks. And have you measured that against the cost of textbooks? I know a lot of administrators are crunching these numbers right now... On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 13:21, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: To put it another way, the data processing group got put out to pasture of days gone by was blindsided by the PC revolution. Not really - they just morphed into the IT staff of today - server administrators. And, mainframes haven't disappeared - again, it's the minis that got squeezed. IBM still makes a buncha money on mainframes. The current generation of tablets are probably the most compelling piece of technology since then. Perhaps. I've yet to be convinced. Teachers and administrators are very interested in tablets because they believe they offer so much more capability for viewing and distributing content! The SJRDF is strong, 'tis true. I think the only advantage they show is weight, and a multi-touch screen. For viewing content, a larger screen gives better resolution, and for real distribution you still need the servers on the back end. The capabilities are still lacking, and the price is still too high. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here:
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Recently received a kindle and am liking it. Eye strain is non-existent for me. E-books are an interesting price wise.You can find a paper back for $7 and the kindle version is $19 Tech book wise they seem to be the same. My wife is getting excited at the thought of the tech library getting smaller. Only thing missing is that paper smell. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 9:37 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares We haven't tested the devices with kids yet. We don't want to put the cart before the horse; it we test and like a particular reader but the textbook companies don't offer their content in a format that works on it, we're out of luck. Ditto if the company that makes the e-reader doesn't provide a mechanism for centralized management. Florida recently passed a new law requiring migration to e-books in the coming years, so I suspect the technology vendors will hop on board soon. From my own personal experience with a Kindle, eye strain shouldn't be an issue with e-ink devices. John -Original Message- From: Mathew Shember [mailto:mathew.shem...@synopsys.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 12:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares How are the reports on eye strain? Are the kids liking them? Thanks, Mathew -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 5:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares Management of an e-reader is WAY simpler than management of a PC, though (assuming the e-reader has enterprise management tools, which remains a huge assumption). A couple of years ago, we had a one-to-one laptop initiative with all of our 8th and 9th grade students. It was extremely labor-intensive; no matter how tightly we locked down the computers, there was always some way kids could screw them up. And battery life was constantly an issue. Basic e-readers will obviously do much less than PCs, but there's also a lot less to go wrong with them. They're much more feasible for schools. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 11:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares The benefits and costs of distributing books electronically is not tied to the use of tablets. You can use a PC to read a PDF or other digital media just as well as on a tablet, and do much more besides, given the cost differential - once you take into account the peripherals needed to make the tablet as useful as a more traditional laptop or PC. The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the supposed advantages. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
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A short and simple example is the question of company provided versus bring your own If you allow the users to provide their own, you have no control over what they put on them or bring into your network. Keep in mind this my lack of caffeine scraggily memory but there was a recent event of an attack via PDF. There are solutions such as in my case you can isolate them by giving them their own network and use citrix to grant them access to stuff. What about company confidential files? iPad gets stolen. They are very useful tools but if somebody says just give them wireless access you could very well regret that. -Original Message- From: Terry Dickson [mailto:te...@treasurer.state.ks.us] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 11:12 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares What about the point I might have missed in this discussion on Security. I do not have any experience with an Ipad, but I hear they are HUGE Security Risks. I have heard this more than once, and I would like to know more on why. It is not that I do not believe the people telling me that, however they did not provide the facts as to why. Does anyone know why they are considered security risks? From: Michael White [mswhite...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 1:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares At this point, I'd settle for ANY reason other than but all the cool people have an iPad! :-) Why wait for others to tell you what reasons they could use the devices. As IT Pros, I believe it is part of our job to have the foresight and leadership to be able to introduce new technology within our organizations and how it can be used by our users. As far as the concern that there are not the apps or tools to be able to support them; how about building them? Sounds to me that there is a great opportunity for some developer on this list to create a set of tools and, potentially make some money. Michael. -- -- Michael S. White mswhite...@gmail.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail and any attachments are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you do not have permission to disclose, copy, distribute, or open any attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by returning it to the sender and delete this copy from your system. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
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Even then the back lighting does cause eye strain for serious reading.If you are prone to migraines(like me), this can be an issue.Recently received a kindle and am liking it more than the ipad(got to test one out for work with citrix). It's funny you mention the keyboard. Some of the ipad evangelicals now carry an addon for a keyboard. They prop up the ipad and put the keyboard in front and it looks like a lightweight laptop... Thanks, Mathew -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 8:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares The benefits and costs of distributing books electronically is not tied to the use of tablets. You can use a PC to read a PDF or other digital media just as well as on a tablet, and do much more besides, given the cost differential - once you take into account the peripherals needed to make the tablet as useful as a more traditional laptop or PC. The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the supposed advantages. Kurt On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 18:00, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: You're still mostly wooshing here. Never did I say I bought into these concepts, but this is how it often appears to the uninitiated into the arcane art of IT. I, of course, know that mainframes didn't die, but most of the work of the data processing department was subsumed in many organizations by business units closer to the data, and this was accelerated by the adoption of the PC and PC networks. And have you measured that against the cost of textbooks? I know a lot of administrators are crunching these numbers right now... On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 13:21, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: To put it another way, the data processing group got put out to pasture of days gone by was blindsided by the PC revolution. Not really - they just morphed into the IT staff of today - server administrators. And, mainframes haven't disappeared - again, it's the minis that got squeezed. IBM still makes a buncha money on mainframes. The current generation of tablets are probably the most compelling piece of technology since then. Perhaps. I've yet to be convinced. Teachers and administrators are very interested in tablets because they believe they offer so much more capability for viewing and distributing content! The SJRDF is strong, 'tis true. I think the only advantage they show is weight, and a multi-touch screen. For viewing content, a larger screen gives better resolution, and for real distribution you still need the servers on the back end. The capabilities are still lacking, and the price is still too high. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
Indeed. Not an easy task. We are in process of smart device integration and there are many factors to consider. Bring your own opens up many issues. Will the company provide them when so easily taken? Who ends up supporting them? What about getting them access to Citrix? Wasn't plug and play for us.. Thanks, Mathew From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 8:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares It should be noted that we (the auspicious members of this list) represent a very small fraction of the buying public, else Apple would not have the market capitalization that is has today, and more people would use a CLI, among other things. By year's end, I expect to see a lot more questions from this list (and others) about tablet integration of some sort within the enterprise. Remember, if you want enterprise management for what would otherwise be consumer devices, you need to be talking to your vendors, and you need to be looking to do deployments, pilot testing, etc. They're not going to build it until you get there, and your journey there will be better if you start now so that they build it before the gold rush hits. Just saying... ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 7:43 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: PCs never replaced mainframes, though the bigger brother of the PC (the server) has essentially replaced the mini. And without a keyboard and real multitasking (and, for me , a command line), tablets won't replace PCs, except for low end tasks.. On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 12:42, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: The tablet is displacing the PC, which itself displaced the mainframe. Clever users will find a way to use the technology available in unexpeted ways. Not saying that you're not providing good service now, I'm just suggesting that the service may need to be changed. Tablets are the new sexy item on the block, and I've had education people talk my ear off about them to no end, since they know I used to support education users. On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 3:34 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: True-we're a large-ish enterprise (~500 employees, ~2,000 computers), and standardization is a must. Your mileage may vary. :) John From: Matt Plahtinsky [mailto:cbusitl...@gmail.commailto:cbusitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 3:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares I understand this point of view in some environments. Some places especially larger ones need to be ridged and have structure to keep everything manageable. The environment that I work in though is Managed IT Services for small business. I make a living by making, and keeping those guys happy. If the owner of a small business wants to use his iPad in meetings I say why not? Matt On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 12:22 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: My department's philosophy is that we're not going to jump through hoops to make users' iPads work like a PC. If they need a device that works like a PC, they should use a PC. I know that doesn't help you. It's just a pet peeve of mine and I had to vent. The iPad is really good at some things, and not so good at others. I believe in using the right tool for the right job. Carry on. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.ushttp://www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Matt Plahtinsky [mailto:cbusitl...@gmail.commailto:cbusitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 8:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares Hi List! I have a client that would like to use thier iPad in meetings to pull up documents off of their Server 2008 file server. This client would like to be able to do this when local to the network and if possible remotely too. After doing some research it looks like the iPad can VPN to the network easy enough. I have found one app that looks like it might work for browsing file shares. http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/filebrowser-access-files-on/id364738545?mt=8 Is anyone currently doing this and would like to share their experience or combination of apps to make this happen? Thanks Matt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to
RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
Well? I can't seem to justify $700 for en email reader and a game player for my kid. If somebody gave me one, I would use it. Anecdotally speaking, I see iPad more in kids hands then I do the adults. Thanks, Mathew From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares This point seems to be lost on many. There are many services to be consumed in this day and age that do not require a full computer, and for which a complete PC, or even laptop, actually can be a disadvantage. There's room for multiple devices in the ecosystem. Has been for some time. -sc From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 12:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares If you insist on using a tablet exactly as a PC (or even a laptop), then you'll be sorely disappointed. Most people who adopt them (tablets) use the new tool differently from the old tool. It's not like most people with laptops in a corporate environment are actually using a reasonable percentage of its inherent advantages. Additionally, many people are using their smart phones which are even more inconvenient than tablets, to accomplish some of the work they used to perform on PCs. Tablets give them a *richer* experience, from this standpoint, hence the growing adoption rate. I'm pretty sure that is we substitute PC for tablet and go back 16-20 years, there'd be no distinguishing the arguments being used. Yet, here we are. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: The benefits and costs of distributing books electronically is not tied to the use of tablets. You can use a PC to read a PDF or other digital media just as well as on a tablet, and do much more besides, given the cost differential - once you take into account the peripherals needed to make the tablet as useful as a more traditional laptop or PC. The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the supposed advantages. Kurt On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 18:00, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: You're still mostly wooshing here. Never did I say I bought into these concepts, but this is how it often appears to the uninitiated into the arcane art of IT. I, of course, know that mainframes didn't die, but most of the work of the data processing department was subsumed in many organizations by business units closer to the data, and this was accelerated by the adoption of the PC and PC networks. And have you measured that against the cost of textbooks? I know a lot of administrators are crunching these numbers right now... On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 13:21, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: To put it another way, the data processing group got put out to pasture of days gone by was blindsided by the PC revolution. Not really - they just morphed into the IT staff of today - server administrators. And, mainframes haven't disappeared - again, it's the minis that got squeezed. IBM still makes a buncha money on mainframes. The current generation of tablets are probably the most compelling piece of technology since then. Perhaps. I've yet to be convinced. Teachers and administrators are very interested in tablets because they believe they offer so much more capability for viewing and distributing content! The SJRDF is strong, 'tis true. I think the only advantage they show is weight, and a multi-touch screen. For viewing content, a larger screen gives better resolution, and for real distribution you still need the servers on the back end. The capabilities are still lacking, and the price is still too high. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here:
RE: HP going out
Oh gateway *censored, censored, censored* I remember that endless loop as well. Then they company decided on HP Kayaks.Now that was an adventure in installation.. -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 10:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: HP going out On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 12:44 PM, C.E. Gene Connor cege...@gmail.com wrote: Will the new buyer have to stand behind what we are now getting from HP ?? I think that will depend on how things go down. One hopes HP will want their customers taken care of. Before I started at %WORK%, they were buying Gateway PCs. I put a stop to that as soon as I could, but there were plenty around I still had to support. Then Gateway sold their business PC division to MPC. The warranties and support contracts basically evaporated. MPC said call Gateway, Gateway said call MPC, I got nothing. Shockingly, that division soon went out of business. It's almost like their customers didn't trust them anymore. Whodathunkit? -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: [OT] The infection continues to spread (HP)
This is fascinating and yet explains a recent presentation from them. We have been toying with VDI and have been looking at several options. We asked them to come in and present. This they did. However, they had no formal presentation, slides, nothing. Just verbal what we should be doing and what they might have in the future. From: Mike Sullivan [mailto:neog...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 1:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [OT] The infection continues to spread (HP) HP is discontinuing their WebOS operations and going to spin off their PC Unit. I'd say they are having some issues. http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/hp-punts-on-webos-discontinues-touchpad-cuts-outlook/55386?tag=nl.e589 On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 12:49 PM, David Lum david@nwea.orgmailto:david@nwea.org wrote: +1 I have a client with two LJ 4's that are still going. Please don't say it's going to the Procurve side, I am just moving clients to them (HP1810G series) Dave -Original Message- From: Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.commailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com] Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 7:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [OT] The infection continues to spread (HP) LOL! At a previous gig, we were replacing old LJs with newer printers and the Accounting Dept outright refused to give up their LJ II (or III, can't quite remember). I couldn't argue, it was a friggin' workhorse... Don Guyer Windows Systems Engineer RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2 Enterprise Technology Group Fiserv don.gu...@fiserv.commailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673tel:1-800-523-7282%20x%201673 Fax: 610-233-0404tel:610-233-0404 www.fiserv.comhttp://www.fiserv.com -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.commailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 8:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [OT] The infection continues to spread (HP) On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 10:36 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.commailto:scaes...@caesare.com wrote: A moment of silence to mourn what has become of the company that used to make the LaserJet4 and my trusty DesignJet550C Seriously. The T790 is replacing a DesignJet 750C which was old enough to vote, and had simply worn away too many parts that aren't made any more. I had a customer who had a LaserJet II in service as of a few years ago, and prolly still does. I expect it would still work after a nuclear war; the cockroaches will have something to print with. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Thank you, Mike Sullivan ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: [OT] The infection continues to spread (HP)
That maybe. However, they left the money guys thinking Why did we have this? Oh well. Their loss... From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:18 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [OT] The infection continues to spread (HP) HP has been recruiting very heavily for server/app/desktop/cloud virtualization people. Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/ From: Mathew Shember [mailto:mathew.shem...@synopsys.com] Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [OT] The infection continues to spread (HP) This is fascinating and yet explains a recent presentation from them. We have been toying with VDI and have been looking at several options. We asked them to come in and present. This they did. However, they had no formal presentation, slides, nothing. Just verbal what we should be doing and what they might have in the future. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: What do you do when things go quiet?
It's when there is a power outage and the backup generators didn't kick in. ;) Thanks, Mathew From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 1:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What do you do when things go quiet? I'm trying to remember what when things go quiet means! :) Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/ From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 2:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What do you do when things go quiet? What I usually am doing is reading and studying up on the latest security technologies and compliance challenges, along with working towards an auditors state of mind ( so GSNA and CISA and Crisc certifications on the horizon) along with learning penetration testing techniques and auditing systems with Backtrack and Metasploit and other open-source tools. Z Edward E. Ziots CISSP, Network +, Security + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization Email:ezi...@lifespan.org Cell:401-639-3505 [CISSP_logo] From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]mailto:[mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 3:15 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What do you do when things go quiet? That thing/technology you wondered about - read up on that. Or got to Experts Exchange and see if you can answer the questions posted there - you can learn some interesting things on EE and get a feel for what others are doing. I haven't visited EE in a long time myself... From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]mailto:[mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 10:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: What do you do when things go quiet? When you finish a major project and there's nothing specific on the horizon, what sort of things do you do to improve the services that you offer your customers? I'm conscious of how I word this as I certainly don't want to come across as complacent or as if there isn't a constant trickle of things to be getting on with, but some things can't be done simply due to money (upgrade entire business to Windows 7 Office 2010 isn't going to happen) you can reach a point where, until the next bunch of patches and updates come along, the SAN works, vSphere works, Windows works, plus there are limits on what you can do in working hours due to impact. I can always find a stream of things to do such as researching future replacement hardware/software but I'm interested in the things you do to improve the services you offer the business and your users/customers. I've probably not worded that fantastically, but hopefully you get the idea. MIRA Ltd Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 100 1464 84 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe
RE: Very OT quick favour to ask any Facebook users
It could be carried by an African swallow. -Original Message- From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu] Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 2:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Very OT quick favour to ask any Facebook users You know I never understood that expression... Bananas are not a very aerodynamic fruit... /sarcasm DAMIEN SOLODOW Systems Engineer 317.447.6033 (office) 317.447.6014 (fax) HARRISON COLLEGE -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 5:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Very OT quick favour to ask any Facebook users On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 4:21 PM, William Robbins dangerw...@gmail.com wrote: Time flies when you're...well it flies none the less. Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Strange Disk i VMware server
H. I remember something like that with 2000. Was it a reinstall? Here is an old note: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/236086 Thanks, Mathew From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 2:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Strange Disk i VMware server I just applied the Windows patches this PM and I usually check Event viewer and making sure all services that starts Automatic are started, I found an error in the System folder: Event Type: Error Event Source: dmboot Event Category: None Event ID: 3 Description: dmboot: Failed to start volume Volume2 (S:) Strange, so I checked Disk Management and lo and behold there is 3rd Disk, Failed 512Gb Dynamic disk!! But when I check the VMware setting there are only the 2 Disks that are supposed to be there. I even booted to the BIOS to see but no clues there. If I right click on the drive it has the option to Delete Volume but should I do that? Anyone with any ideas what's going on? Server 2003 -- Stefan Jafs ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Strange Time issue
Adding a me too post on the versions mentioned. Also, I am wondering if it's a case of going over the Net for time versus a local clock. I want to recall we had similar issues but they went away when we added an NTP device to the networks. Memory is a bit scraggly in the morning.Coffee! Thanks, Mathew From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 8:34 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue We had this issue back in the ESX 3.5 days but it hasn't been an issue since our move to 4.1. We're only talking about 20 guests here. John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Senter, John [mailto:john.sen...@etrade.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:24 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue We kept getting time issues when we had ESX set the time on Windows servers because the domain will adjust the server time and then the ESX system adjust it back. This kept causing the time to go back and forth and it turned out the ESX systems were getting skewed from the NTP source at a greater rate. So let the domain do its thing with the servers by setting time. From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue All domain machines. All VM guests sync to the ESX hosts. All workstations sync to physical DC's that use standard Windows time service. John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue Are these domain machines? You don't sync them to a DC and sync the DC out to an external NTP server? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 7:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue I actually use the VMWare tools time sync function on the guests and have my hosts sync to north-america.pool.ntp.org. I'm on ESX 4.1 not ESXi John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Strange Time issue As John notes, you should let the guests keep time for themselves, and not get their time from the hosts. ASB http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Greg Sweers gswe...@acts360.commailto:gswe...@acts360.com wrote: We have a single VMware ESXi 4.1 running 1 Windows 2003 R2, and 1 x 2008 R2 server. The 2008 R2 server runs faster. Watching the clock it actually tickets about 3 real seconds to 5 seconds on the clock in the console. Needless to say this puts stuff out of sync pretty quick. Looked online and I found a few posts regarding some weird time services, but nothing Microsoft or VMware. Anyone seen this before? The 2003 Server runs normally. I can resync against the DC and they are out of sync by 15 seconds in under a minute. Greg Sweers CEO ACTS360.comhttp://www.acts360.com/ P.O. Box 1193 Brandon, FL 33509 813-657-0849tel:813-657-0849 Office 813-758-6850tel:813-758-6850 Cell 813-341-1270tel:813-341-1270 Fax ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the
RE: Excel reports 4 cpus?
I did that. It showed 8.Strange Thanks, Mathew -Original Message- From: kz2...@googlemail.com [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 9:37 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Excel reports 4 cpus? Check task manager, I dare say that will show each core separatelu, meaning 4 displays of CPU --Original Message-- From: Mathew Shember To: NT System Admin Issues ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Excel reports 4 cpus? Sent: 3 Aug 2011 17:16 Excel was never a strong point for me. I have a user with a rather cpu intensive routine. She has her script reporting cpus at the bottom. She got concerned when her sheet reported 4 cpus.The two servers she uses(terminal servers in a citrix setup) both have 2 quad cores. I checked the hardware and the cpus are fine. Any ideas on why this is reported? So far it's happened once and of course she wants to know why... Thanks, Mathew ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Sent from my POS BlackBerry wireless device, which may wipe itself at any moment ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Excel reports 4 cpus?
She has a field at the bottom of her sheet which displays the count. It seems to be working now .. Thanks, Mathew -Original Message- From: kz2...@googlemail.com [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 10:34 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Excel reports 4 cpus? What is querying the number of CPUs? Sent from my POS BlackBerry wireless device, which may wipe itself at any moment -Original Message- From: Mathew Shember mathew.shem...@synopsys.com Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 17:30:17 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Excel reports 4 cpus? I did that. It showed 8.Strange Thanks, Mathew -Original Message- From: kz2...@googlemail.com [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 9:37 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Excel reports 4 cpus? Check task manager, I dare say that will show each core separatelu, meaning 4 displays of CPU --Original Message-- From: Mathew Shember To: NT System Admin Issues ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Excel reports 4 cpus? Sent: 3 Aug 2011 17:16 Excel was never a strong point for me. I have a user with a rather cpu intensive routine. She has her script reporting cpus at the bottom. She got concerned when her sheet reported 4 cpus.The two servers she uses(terminal servers in a citrix setup) both have 2 quad cores. I checked the hardware and the cpus are fine. Any ideas on why this is reported? So far it's happened once and of course she wants to know why... Thanks, Mathew ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Sent from my POS BlackBerry wireless device, which may wipe itself at any moment ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Excel reports 4 cpus?
Excel was never a strong point for me. I have a user with a rather cpu intensive routine. She has her script reporting cpus at the bottom. She got concerned when her sheet reported 4 cpus.The two servers she uses(terminal servers in a citrix setup) both have 2 quad cores. I checked the hardware and the cpus are fine. Any ideas on why this is reported? So far it's happened once and of course she wants to know why... Thanks, Mathew ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: I hate Dell
Dell can be hit and miss. I have had good and bad. The worst was Computer Associates. In one year we counted 42 rep changes.It became a game to guess how long they would last.. -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 2:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: I hate Dell I love Dell. But I must agree, the rep leaves me feeling ... uncared for. But, I make my own EQuotes using Dell's Premier page. If an option isn't there, I ask my rep to turn the option on: Me: Hey, can I get the option to install your 128 SSD on the Optiplex 390? Rep: Uh, yeah. You want that option turned on? Me: Yes. I want all my options turned on, please. Rep: Okay! Then he turns on the one option I asked for... and nothing else, so I have to ask again. *sigh* Oh well, it's better than the configuration I can do on HP's site. (Somebody please prove me wrong!) --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 13:28:20 -0700 Subject: I hate Dell My rep, rather. And, yes, I have contacted her boss. Especially since he was so insistent that I sign up for surveys to tell him how they're doing. Except I skipped the signing up with survey part. Trouble is, the quote comes back wrong. Again. After her boss got involved. I'm about done. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Open source ISO for learning
Ubuntu and Red Hat seem to be the biggest ones. Thanks, Mathew From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 7:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Open source ISO for learning Which of the open source OS's would be best for a complete n00b to start working with to learn. I know there are a bunch of different OS's that all come out of the Unix but which distro would have a good ISO to learn on? Thanks for your opinions, Jon ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Be Very Wary of The Cloud...
Ugh typos. It's Pie lesu domine, dona eis requiem So much for my reference Thanks, Mathew From: Joe Tinney [mailto:jtin...@lastar.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 11:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Be Very Wary of The Cloud... http://translate.google.com/#la|en|pies%20lesu%20domine%20dona%20eis%20requiem Oh Lord Jesus pies? From: Mathew Shember [mailto:mathew.shem...@synopsys.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 11:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Be Very Wary of The Cloud... *Hands him a great big bible* Now repeat after me. pies lesu domine dona eis requiem *smack* Thanks, Mathew From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 6:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Be Very Wary of The Cloud... I am so sorry I ever posted my initial post on this topic! :-P Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 2:34 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Be Very Wary of The Cloud... As ASB points out - financial institutions are big outsourcers - whether for development, or infrastructure. One former customer of mine just moved 50,000 mailboxes to Exchange hosted by Fujitsu/Microsoft: http://www.itnews.com.au/News/261689,westpac-shifts-5-inboxes-to-microsoft.aspx From: Mathew Shember [mailto:mathew.shem...@synopsys.com] Sent: Tuesday, 28 June 2011 3:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Be Very Wary of The Cloud... Financial institutions are heavily regulated and can't treat security measures as an expense. I heard one Cloud person talking about who we don't need data centers, you can put your source code on the cloud. Are people willing to trust the cloud with that? Thanks, Mathew From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 11:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Be Very Wary of The Cloud... I want to have total control over my programs and data and I won't in the Cloud! All my backups are done locally on hardware and by personnel located in MY location! In many cases, this is a good business decision. In some cases, however, doing so adds cost that is not commensurate with the value provided. Knowing when this is true, is smart business. This is why every organization does not process its own credit cards, or manage its own ecommerce, or attempt to staff its own local data centers 24x7... ASB (Professional Biohttp://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker/bio) Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 1:42 PM, MMF mmfree...@ameritech.netmailto:mmfree...@ameritech.net wrote: The Cloud will cause the loss of both onsite jobs and hardware. That's not what concerns me. It's the loss of control and security that concerns me. I want to have total control over my programs and data and I won't in the Cloud! All my backups are done locally on hardware and by personnel located in MY location! M. Free The Cloud is just another name for outsoucing. If the cloud takes hold, datacenters will quick enough move to China/India and the IT profession in the US will be dead. A few cisco guys will be left over to keep the internet up, and that's about it. Fight the cloud! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt
RE: Be Very Wary of The Cloud...
Interesting. Any layoffs as a result? Thanks, Mathew From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 11:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Be Very Wary of The Cloud... As ASB points out - financial institutions are big outsourcers - whether for development, or infrastructure. One former customer of mine just moved 50,000 mailboxes to Exchange hosted by Fujitsu/Microsoft: http://www.itnews.com.au/News/261689,westpac-shifts-5-inboxes-to-microsoft.aspx From: Mathew Shember [mailto:mathew.shem...@synopsys.com] Sent: Tuesday, 28 June 2011 3:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Be Very Wary of The Cloud... Financial institutions are heavily regulated and can't treat security measures as an expense. I heard one Cloud person talking about who we don't need data centers, you can put your source code on the cloud. Are people willing to trust the cloud with that? Thanks, Mathew From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 11:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Be Very Wary of The Cloud... I want to have total control over my programs and data and I won't in the Cloud! All my backups are done locally on hardware and by personnel located in MY location! In many cases, this is a good business decision. In some cases, however, doing so adds cost that is not commensurate with the value provided. Knowing when this is true, is smart business. This is why every organization does not process its own credit cards, or manage its own ecommerce, or attempt to staff its own local data centers 24x7... ASB (Professional Biohttp://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker/bio) Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 1:42 PM, MMF mmfree...@ameritech.netmailto:mmfree...@ameritech.net wrote: The Cloud will cause the loss of both onsite jobs and hardware. That's not what concerns me. It's the loss of control and security that concerns me. I want to have total control over my programs and data and I won't in the Cloud! All my backups are done locally on hardware and by personnel located in MY location! M. Free The Cloud is just another name for outsoucing. If the cloud takes hold, datacenters will quick enough move to China/India and the IT profession in the US will be dead. A few cisco guys will be left over to keep the internet up, and that's about it. Fight the cloud! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Be Very Wary of The Cloud...
*Hands him a great big bible* Now repeat after me. pies lesu domine dona eis requiem *smack* Thanks, Mathew From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 6:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Be Very Wary of The Cloud... I am so sorry I ever posted my initial post on this topic! :-P Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 2:34 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Be Very Wary of The Cloud... As ASB points out - financial institutions are big outsourcers - whether for development, or infrastructure. One former customer of mine just moved 50,000 mailboxes to Exchange hosted by Fujitsu/Microsoft: http://www.itnews.com.au/News/261689,westpac-shifts-5-inboxes-to-microsoft.aspx From: Mathew Shember [mailto:mathew.shem...@synopsys.com] Sent: Tuesday, 28 June 2011 3:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Be Very Wary of The Cloud... Financial institutions are heavily regulated and can't treat security measures as an expense. I heard one Cloud person talking about who we don't need data centers, you can put your source code on the cloud. Are people willing to trust the cloud with that? Thanks, Mathew From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 11:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Be Very Wary of The Cloud... I want to have total control over my programs and data and I won't in the Cloud! All my backups are done locally on hardware and by personnel located in MY location! In many cases, this is a good business decision. In some cases, however, doing so adds cost that is not commensurate with the value provided. Knowing when this is true, is smart business. This is why every organization does not process its own credit cards, or manage its own ecommerce, or attempt to staff its own local data centers 24x7... ASB (Professional Biohttp://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker/bio) Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 1:42 PM, MMF mmfree...@ameritech.netmailto:mmfree...@ameritech.net wrote: The Cloud will cause the loss of both onsite jobs and hardware. That's not what concerns me. It's the loss of control and security that concerns me. I want to have total control over my programs and data and I won't in the Cloud! All my backups are done locally on hardware and by personnel located in MY location! M. Free The Cloud is just another name for outsoucing. If the cloud takes hold, datacenters will quick enough move to China/India and the IT profession in the US will be dead. A few cisco guys will be left over to keep the internet up, and that's about it. Fight the cloud! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Fake sales confirmation
Maybe he learned his lesson and we can stop sending it to his users? Wait did I say that out loud? From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 12:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Fake sales confirmation Sad state of affairs really. He has time to comment here and drink bad PA beers...but can spare time for his poor users. Sad. - WJR On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 14:23, Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.commailto:rich...@gmail.com wrote: Indeed. He's probably doing something selfish like sitting at a bar somewhere in the Poconos drinking a beer instead of saving his users from certain doom. On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 3:18 PM, William Robbins dangerw...@gmail.commailto:dangerw...@gmail.com wrote: Well, obviously, you need to stop your vacation and tend to this. :) - WJR On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 14:17, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: We are getting a lot of payment/ transaction cancelled spam. Unfortunately I am on vacation and have to rely on warnings I've emailed to staff! On Tuesday, June 28, 2011, Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.commailto:michealespin...@gmail.com wrote: You /are/ the weakest link... goodbye! j/k, but no, havent heard of this one so far... -- ME2 On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 11:46 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.commailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: We keep getting these fake sales confirmation emails. Anyone else seeing these or are my users the only ones getting targeted? :D ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
