Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

[Ludovic Rousseau]

2012/11/23 Alon Bar-Lev :
> On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
>  wrote:
>> 2012/11/23 Alon Bar-Lev :
>>> You copied the repositories without tags. I fixed this for openct,
>>> pkcs11-helper, but I guess you should check all repositories moved,
>>> make sure we did not lose anything.
>>
>> Exact. svn2git did not get the tags for releases :-(
>> I added them by hand for pam_pkcs11.
>
> I used git-svn which was great.

I guess you had to convert branches to tags.

I re-did the SVN to GIT convertion (including tags for releases) for:
- pam_pkcs11
- OpenSC-java
- libp11
- engine_pkcs11
- pam_p11

I hope it is correct now.

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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

[Alon Bar-Lev]

On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
 wrote:
> 2012/11/23 Alon Bar-Lev :
>> You copied the repositories without tags. I fixed this for openct,
>> pkcs11-helper, but I guess you should check all repositories moved,
>> make sure we did not lose anything.
>
> Exact. svn2git did not get the tags for releases :-(
> I added them by hand for pam_pkcs11.

I used git-svn which was great.

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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

[Alon Bar-Lev]

On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Alon Bar-Lev  wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Ludovic Rousseau
>  wrote:
>>
>> 2012/11/22 Alon Bar-Lev 
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
>>>  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hello,
>>> >
>>> > 2012/11/17 Alon Bar-Lev :
>>> > > On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 11:54 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
>>> > >> I don't think I can give you admin access to only these 2 projects.
>>> > >> I can add you as a member of the OpenSC organisation and you would
>>> > >> have access to all the repositories.
>>> > >
>>> > > Yes you can, there are teams, each team can have admin/write/read
>>> > > access to specific repositories.
>>> >
>>> > I created a "OpenCT maintainers" team [1].
>>> > Alon Bar-Lev is the only member of the team but I can add others.
>>>
>>> Please do the same for pkcs11-helper, thanks!
>
> Thanks!

Hi,

You copied the repositories without tags. I fixed this for openct,
pkcs11-helper, but I guess you should check all repositories moved,
make sure we did not lose anything.

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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

[Alon Bar-Lev]

On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Ludovic Rousseau
 wrote:
>
> 2012/11/22 Alon Bar-Lev 
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
>>  wrote:
>> >
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > 2012/11/17 Alon Bar-Lev :
>> > > On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 11:54 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
>> > >> I don't think I can give you admin access to only these 2 projects.
>> > >> I can add you as a member of the OpenSC organisation and you would
>> > >> have access to all the repositories.
>> > >
>> > > Yes you can, there are teams, each team can have admin/write/read
>> > > access to specific repositories.
>> >
>> > I created a "OpenCT maintainers" team [1].
>> > Alon Bar-Lev is the only member of the team but I can add others.
>>
>> Please do the same for pkcs11-helper, thanks!

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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

[Ludovic Rousseau]

2012/11/22 Alon Bar-Lev 

> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
>  wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > 2012/11/17 Alon Bar-Lev :
> > > On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 11:54 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
> > >> I don't think I can give you admin access to only these 2 projects.
> > >> I can add you as a member of the OpenSC organisation and you would
> > >> have access to all the repositories.
> > >
> > > Yes you can, there are teams, each team can have admin/write/read
> > > access to specific repositories.
> >
> > I created a "OpenCT maintainers" team [1].
> > Alon Bar-Lev is the only member of the team but I can add others.
>
> Please do the same for pkcs11-helper, thanks!
>

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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

[Alon Bar-Lev]

On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
 wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> 2012/11/17 Alon Bar-Lev :
> > On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 11:54 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
> >> I don't think I can give you admin access to only these 2 projects.
> >> I can add you as a member of the OpenSC organisation and you would
> >> have access to all the repositories.
> >
> > Yes you can, there are teams, each team can have admin/write/read
> > access to specific repositories.
>
> I created a "OpenCT maintainers" team [1].
> Alon Bar-Lev is the only member of the team but I can add others.
>
> Alon, you should be able to push changes directly in OpenSC / openct
>
> If you need something else just ask the OpenSC owners (Martin, Viktor
> and myself for now).
>
> Bye
>
> [1] https://github.com/organizations/OpenSC/teams
>
> --
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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

[Martin Paljak]

Bonjour,

On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 7:37 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
 wrote:
> Andreas, the host available at opensc-project.org will disapear at the end  
> of the year 2012 [2].

There will be a semi-managed (meaning managed backup and other
monitoring) Debian box available for the foreseeable future. I'll
shift the current authorized_keys file over and send a private e-mail
with details to the ones in the ssh list.

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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

[Martin Paljak]

On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 7:25 PM, Martin Paljak  wrote:

>> Yes and no. Multiple people writing to a central repo works perfectly
>> fine also with git.
> Yes.
>
> The Original Goal(tm) was that instead of bureaucratic rubber-stamping
> commits and dividing the whoever extra pair of eyes and brains and
> "access" would actually look, read, digest *and if necessary, reject*
> a pull request and mentor it with reasonable comments. Be it coherent
> design, sloppy naming and whitespace, comments in chinese or something
> else.

And the fact that feedback "before merging" is better than when
somebody goes on to janitoring some code (OK for generic cleanup but
usually causes psychological stress if it includes something more)

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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

[Martin Paljak]

On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 11:57 PM, Peter Stuge  wrote:
> Ludovic Rousseau wrote:
>> The idea of git is to _not_ have to give access. Just send pull
>> requests and I (or another admin) will pull your code.
No, the purpose of git must not be limiting access :)

>
> Yes and no. Multiple people writing to a central repo works perfectly
> fine also with git.
Yes.

The Original Goal(tm) was that instead of bureaucratic rubber-stamping
commits and dividing the whoever extra pair of eyes and brains and
"access" would actually look, read, digest *and if necessary, reject*
a pull request and mentor it with reasonable comments. Be it coherent
design, sloppy naming and whitespace, comments in chinese or something
else.

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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

[Martin Paljak]

Hello,

On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
 wrote:
> Maybe some people are on the list but no more interested by OpenSC.
> Maybe they just redirect the emails into the spam/trash folder.

There's a fairly constant flow of people to and off the list according
to subscription notices, so I believe the "folder people" either track
it passively or actually do know when then unsubscribe or
re-subscribe.

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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

[Andreas Schwier]

It's probably a good occasion to clean-up the list.

We should define a date at which we switch to the new list and send a
final termination notice with pointers to the new list. After that
notice we should reject any further e-mails to the list and keep the
archive around a little longer.

Andreas

Am 21.11.2012 17:59, schrieb Ludovic Rousseau:
> 2012/11/18 Ludovic Rousseau :
>> 2012/11/18 Viktor Tarasov :
>>> mailing list will go (without archive ?) to SourceForge, or, in case of the 
>>> last minute obstacles, to groups.google.com.
>> The numbers of members to the 3 lists hosted at opensc-project.org are:
>>  546 opensc-devel_members.txt
>>  129 opensc-announce_members.txt
>>   39 opensc-commits_members.txt
>>
>> I created 3 mailing lists at SourceForge OpenSC project
>> https://sourceforge.net/p/opensc/mailman/
>>
>> It looks like it is possible to mass subscribe to a mailman list [1].
>> But I could not find how using the SourceForge list interface.
> I found how to mass subscribe to the new mailing lists I created.
>
>> Maybe the only (and good) solution is to ask people to subscribe at 
>> SourceForge.
> What do you think is best:
> - mass subscription without asking for permission?
> - ask people to subscribe to the new lists?
>
> Maybe some people are on the list but no more interested by OpenSC.
> Maybe they just redirect the emails into the spam/trash folder.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Thanks
>


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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

[Martin Paljak]

Hello

On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 7:37 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
 wrote:
> But Martin is now missing.

:) I've not fallen off the edge of the earth, but I've been only
digesting e-mails that have been addressed to me directly and thus
ended up in main inbox (which not many have, at least according to
gmail filtering)

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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

[Ludovic Rousseau]

2012/11/18 Ludovic Rousseau :
> 2012/11/18 Viktor Tarasov :
>> mailing list will go (without archive ?) to SourceForge, or, in case of the 
>> last minute obstacles, to groups.google.com.
>
> The numbers of members to the 3 lists hosted at opensc-project.org are:
>  546 opensc-devel_members.txt
>  129 opensc-announce_members.txt
>   39 opensc-commits_members.txt
>
> I created 3 mailing lists at SourceForge OpenSC project
> https://sourceforge.net/p/opensc/mailman/
>
> It looks like it is possible to mass subscribe to a mailman list [1].
> But I could not find how using the SourceForge list interface.

I found how to mass subscribe to the new mailing lists I created.

> Maybe the only (and good) solution is to ask people to subscribe at 
> SourceForge.

What do you think is best:
- mass subscription without asking for permission?
- ask people to subscribe to the new lists?

Maybe some people are on the list but no more interested by OpenSC.
Maybe they just redirect the emails into the spam/trash folder.

What do you think?

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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

[Ludovic Rousseau]

Hello,

2012/11/17 Alon Bar-Lev :
> On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 11:54 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
>> I don't think I can give you admin access to only these 2 projects.
>> I can add you as a member of the OpenSC organisation and you would
>> have access to all the repositories.
>
> Yes you can, there are teams, each team can have admin/write/read
> access to specific repositories.

I created a "OpenCT maintainers" team [1].
Alon Bar-Lev is the only member of the team but I can add others.

Alon, you should be able to push changes directly in OpenSC / openct

If you need something else just ask the OpenSC owners (Martin, Viktor
and myself for now).

Bye

[1] https://github.com/organizations/OpenSC/teams

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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

[Ludovic Rousseau]

Hello,

2012/11/18 Andreas Schwier :
> My point is, that I offer to do the integration on opensc-java (as I
> already had commit rights to the old repository).

I just created a "OpenSC-Java maintainers" team.
Give me your github login and I add you to the team. You will then be
able to push changes.

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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

[Andreas Schwier]

Am 17.11.2012 22:54, schrieb Ludovic Rousseau:
> 2012/11/17 Alon Bar-Lev :
>> On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
>>  wrote:
>>> 2012/11/17 Alon Bar-Lev :
 On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 6:00 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
  wrote:
> 2012/11/16 Alon Bar-Lev 
>> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Alon Bar-Lev 
>> wrote:
>>> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
>>>  wrote:

 2012/11/14 Ludovic Rousseau 
> I could not migrate:
> - pkcs11-help. Something fails in the authors names conversion

 I forked the github repository of Alon. pkcs11-helper is now available
 under the OpenSC organization.
 https://github.com/OpenSC/pkcs11-helper

> I have not tried to migrate:
> - OpenCT
> - OpenSC-Java
> Aren't these projects obsolete now?

 I tried to convert OpenCT.
 But I could not get the author correspondence. Some SVN revisions have
 no author and confuse svn2git.
>>> I will prepare github for you to use.
>> Ready:
>> https://github.com/alonbl/openct
>
> Forked at https://github.com/OpenSC/openct
 No... it should not be forked it should be entire clone.
 From this one I should fork mine if I work on openct.
 Same for other projects opensc repos should be the master as they
 are formal upstream.
>>> OK. I deleted openct and pkcs11-helper to recreate them.
>>> You can now fork them on your side.
>> Thanks.
>> It would be lovely if you give me admin access to both of these.
> I don't think I can give you admin access to only these 2 projects.
> I can add you as a member of the OpenSC organisation and you would
> have access to all the repositories.
>
> The idea of git is to _not_ have to give access. Just send pull
> requests and I (or another admin) will pull your code.
>
> Same remark for Andreas and the OpenSC-java repository.
>
> Or am I wrong?
>
> Bye
>
O.K. So I notify you of new pull requests ?

My point is, that I offer to do the integration on opensc-java (as I
already had commit rights to the old repository).

Andreas


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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

[Ludovic Rousseau]

2012/11/18 Viktor Tarasov :
> mailing list will go (without archive ?) to SourceForge, or, in case of the 
> last minute obstacles, to groups.google.com.

The numbers of members to the 3 lists hosted at opensc-project.org are:
 546 opensc-devel_members.txt
 129 opensc-announce_members.txt
  39 opensc-commits_members.txt

I created 3 mailing lists at SourceForge OpenSC project
https://sourceforge.net/p/opensc/mailman/

It looks like it is possible to mass subscribe to a mailman list [1].
But I could not find how using the SourceForge list interface.

Maybe the only (and good) solution is to ask people to subscribe at SourceForge.

Bye

[1] 
http://wiki.list.org/display/DOC/How+can+I+Mass+Subscribe+a+list+with+real+names

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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

[Viktor Tarasov]

Le 17/11/2012 22:57, Alon Bar-Lev a écrit :
> On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 11:54 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
>  wrote:
>> 2012/11/17 Alon Bar-Lev :
>>> On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
>>>  wrote:
 2012/11/17 Alon Bar-Lev :
> On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 6:00 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
>  wrote:
>> 2012/11/16 Alon Bar-Lev 
>>> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Alon Bar-Lev 
>>> wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
  wrote:
>
> 2012/11/14 Ludovic Rousseau 
>> I could not migrate:
>> - pkcs11-help. Something fails in the authors names conversion
>
> I forked the github repository of Alon. pkcs11-helper is now available
> under the OpenSC organization.
> https://github.com/OpenSC/pkcs11-helper
>
>> I have not tried to migrate:
>> - OpenCT
>> - OpenSC-Java
>> Aren't these projects obsolete now?
>
> I tried to convert OpenCT.
> But I could not get the author correspondence. Some SVN revisions have
> no author and confuse svn2git.
 I will prepare github for you to use.
>>> Ready:
>>> https://github.com/alonbl/openct
>>
>> Forked at https://github.com/OpenSC/openct
> No... it should not be forked it should be entire clone.
> From this one I should fork mine if I work on openct.
> Same for other projects opensc repos should be the master as they
> are formal upstream.
 OK. I deleted openct and pkcs11-helper to recreate them.
 You can now fork them on your side.
>>> Thanks.
>>> It would be lovely if you give me admin access to both of these.
>> I don't think I can give you admin access to only these 2 projects.
>> I can add you as a member of the OpenSC organisation and you would
>> have access to all the repositories.
> Yes you can, there are teams, each team can have admin/write/read
> access to specific repositories.
>> The idea of git is to _not_ have to give access. Just send pull
>> requests and I (or another admin) will pull your code.
> We return to the original question: what is the difference between
> people who previously had commit access and you.

Two current members will no be able consciously coordinate all OpenSC github 
projects.
We need largely expand the number of organization members.
IMHO, it has to be automatic for those who have had previously the commit 
access.
As far as I see only 'Organization Owner' can do it.
Martin, can you do it or add a one/couple of 'owners' that will be able to add 
a new 'members' ?

Kind regards,
Viktor.

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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

[Viktor Tarasov]

Le 16/11/2012 22:46, Peter Stuge a écrit :
> Viktor Tarasov wrote:
>> Do you mean that with sources on github it would be more useful to
>> use the bug system and wiki on github, as Ludovic proposed,
>> and not the Trac installed on someone's platform ?
> I don't know how well github issues and wiki integrate with repos -
> what I've seen isn't too convincing. :\
Ok, thanks.

> Trac somewhere else will not automatically know what happens in
> repositories on github. I don't know if github can be told to push
> out events to somewhere else. Worst case it is of course possible to
> poll github for changes, but that's not really nice.
Github has system of hooks.
For example, currently in OpenSC/OpenSC github project
there is the hook to run the Jenkins builds -- no need to poll repository on 
the Jenkins's side.
There is also a 'Trac' dedicated github service hook.


As for me, we have to migrate as much as possible to the 'public' services.
Sources are already there,
wiki can be easily (?) migrated to the github,
mailing list will go (without archive ?) to SourceForge, or, in case of the 
last minute obstacles, to groups.google.com.

The resting are CI and Trac.
CI is already running on the dedicated platform, Trac could also be placed 
there.


> //Peter

Kind wishes,
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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

[Viktor Tarasov]

Le 17/11/2012 17:40, Ludovic Rousseau a écrit :
> 2012/11/17 Ludovic Rousseau :
>> 2012/11/17 Andreas Jellinghaus 
>>> SF is sourceforge.net I guess? it still has the opensc project (that
>>> was used many, many years ago).
>>> Owners are juha and olaf - if you can reach them, you can re-activate it.
>> I just sent a email to Olaf and Juha. I hope they still read the
>> emails sent to their SF.net contact address.
> That was fast.
> Juha added me as admin.
>
> It would be best if other active people are also added as admin.
> Viktor, do you have a SourceForge account?

Have created one: 'tarvik'

> BYe
>

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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

[Peter Stuge]

Ludovic Rousseau wrote:
> The idea of git is to _not_ have to give access. Just send pull
> requests and I (or another admin) will pull your code.

Yes and no. Multiple people writing to a central repo works perfectly
fine also with git.


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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

[Alon Bar-Lev]

On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 11:54 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
 wrote:
> 2012/11/17 Alon Bar-Lev :
>> On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
>>  wrote:
>>> 2012/11/17 Alon Bar-Lev :
 On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 6:00 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
  wrote:
> 2012/11/16 Alon Bar-Lev 
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Alon Bar-Lev 
>> wrote:
>> > On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
>> >  wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2012/11/14 Ludovic Rousseau 
>> >>>
>> >>> I could not migrate:
>> >>> - pkcs11-help. Something fails in the authors names conversion
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I forked the github repository of Alon. pkcs11-helper is now available
>> >> under the OpenSC organization.
>> >> https://github.com/OpenSC/pkcs11-helper
>> >>
>> >>> I have not tried to migrate:
>> >>> - OpenCT
>> >>> - OpenSC-Java
>> >>> Aren't these projects obsolete now?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I tried to convert OpenCT.
>> >> But I could not get the author correspondence. Some SVN revisions have
>> >> no author and confuse svn2git.
>> >
>> > I will prepare github for you to use.
>>
>> Ready:
>> https://github.com/alonbl/openct
>
>
> Forked at https://github.com/OpenSC/openct

 No... it should not be forked it should be entire clone.
 From this one I should fork mine if I work on openct.
 Same for other projects opensc repos should be the master as they
 are formal upstream.
>>>
>>> OK. I deleted openct and pkcs11-helper to recreate them.
>>> You can now fork them on your side.
>>
>> Thanks.
>> It would be lovely if you give me admin access to both of these.
>
> I don't think I can give you admin access to only these 2 projects.
> I can add you as a member of the OpenSC organisation and you would
> have access to all the repositories.

Yes you can, there are teams, each team can have admin/write/read
access to specific repositories.

>
> The idea of git is to _not_ have to give access. Just send pull
> requests and I (or another admin) will pull your code.

We return to the original question: what is the difference between
people who previously had commit access and you.

> Same remark for Andreas and the OpenSC-java repository.
>
> Or am I wrong?
>
> Bye
>
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[Ludovic Rousseau]

2012/11/17 Alon Bar-Lev :
> On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
>  wrote:
>> 2012/11/17 Alon Bar-Lev :
>>> On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 6:00 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
>>>  wrote:
 2012/11/16 Alon Bar-Lev 
>
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Alon Bar-Lev 
> wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
> >  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> 2012/11/14 Ludovic Rousseau 
> >>>
> >>> I could not migrate:
> >>> - pkcs11-help. Something fails in the authors names conversion
> >>
> >>
> >> I forked the github repository of Alon. pkcs11-helper is now available
> >> under the OpenSC organization.
> >> https://github.com/OpenSC/pkcs11-helper
> >>
> >>> I have not tried to migrate:
> >>> - OpenCT
> >>> - OpenSC-Java
> >>> Aren't these projects obsolete now?
> >>
> >>
> >> I tried to convert OpenCT.
> >> But I could not get the author correspondence. Some SVN revisions have
> >> no author and confuse svn2git.
> >
> > I will prepare github for you to use.
>
> Ready:
> https://github.com/alonbl/openct


 Forked at https://github.com/OpenSC/openct
>>>
>>> No... it should not be forked it should be entire clone.
>>> From this one I should fork mine if I work on openct.
>>> Same for other projects opensc repos should be the master as they
>>> are formal upstream.
>>
>> OK. I deleted openct and pkcs11-helper to recreate them.
>> You can now fork them on your side.
>
> Thanks.
> It would be lovely if you give me admin access to both of these.

I don't think I can give you admin access to only these 2 projects.
I can add you as a member of the OpenSC organisation and you would
have access to all the repositories.

The idea of git is to _not_ have to give access. Just send pull
requests and I (or another admin) will pull your code.

Same remark for Andreas and the OpenSC-java repository.

Or am I wrong?

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[Andreas Schwier]

Hi Ludovic,

can you grant me (git-account is "CardContact") write access to
OpenSC-Java ?

Andreas

Am 14.11.2012 23:45, schrieb Ludovic Rousseau:
> 2012/11/14 Andreas Schwier  >
>
> We are still maintaining a version of OpenSC-Java. If you migrate the
> repo to GITHUB I will care for it.
>
>
> Now available at https://github.com/OpenSC/OpenSC-Java
>
> I pushed 3 branches:
> - master
> - pkcs11-0.2-branch
> - pkcs11-test-0.2-branch
>
> The latest commit in master is 4 years old.
>
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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

[Alon Bar-Lev]

On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
 wrote:
> 2012/11/17 Alon Bar-Lev :
>> On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 6:00 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
>>  wrote:
>>> 2012/11/16 Alon Bar-Lev 

 On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Alon Bar-Lev 
 wrote:
 > On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
 >  wrote:
 >>
 >>
 >> 2012/11/14 Ludovic Rousseau 
 >>>
 >>> I could not migrate:
 >>> - pkcs11-help. Something fails in the authors names conversion
 >>
 >>
 >> I forked the github repository of Alon. pkcs11-helper is now available
 >> under the OpenSC organization.
 >> https://github.com/OpenSC/pkcs11-helper
 >>
 >>> I have not tried to migrate:
 >>> - OpenCT
 >>> - OpenSC-Java
 >>> Aren't these projects obsolete now?
 >>
 >>
 >> I tried to convert OpenCT.
 >> But I could not get the author correspondence. Some SVN revisions have
 >> no author and confuse svn2git.
 >
 > I will prepare github for you to use.

 Ready:
 https://github.com/alonbl/openct
>>>
>>>
>>> Forked at https://github.com/OpenSC/openct
>>
>> No... it should not be forked it should be entire clone.
>> From this one I should fork mine if I work on openct.
>> Same for other projects opensc repos should be the master as they
>> are formal upstream.
>
> OK. I deleted openct and pkcs11-helper to recreate them.
> You can now fork them on your side.

Thanks.
It would be lovely if you give me admin access to both of these.

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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

[Ludovic Rousseau]

2012/11/17 Alon Bar-Lev :
> On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 6:00 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
>  wrote:
>> 2012/11/16 Alon Bar-Lev 
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Alon Bar-Lev 
>>> wrote:
>>> > On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
>>> >  wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> 2012/11/14 Ludovic Rousseau 
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I could not migrate:
>>> >>> - pkcs11-help. Something fails in the authors names conversion
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> I forked the github repository of Alon. pkcs11-helper is now available
>>> >> under the OpenSC organization.
>>> >> https://github.com/OpenSC/pkcs11-helper
>>> >>
>>> >>> I have not tried to migrate:
>>> >>> - OpenCT
>>> >>> - OpenSC-Java
>>> >>> Aren't these projects obsolete now?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> I tried to convert OpenCT.
>>> >> But I could not get the author correspondence. Some SVN revisions have
>>> >> no author and confuse svn2git.
>>> >
>>> > I will prepare github for you to use.
>>>
>>> Ready:
>>> https://github.com/alonbl/openct
>>
>>
>> Forked at https://github.com/OpenSC/openct
>
> No... it should not be forked it should be entire clone.
> From this one I should fork mine if I work on openct.
> Same for other projects opensc repos should be the master as they
> are formal upstream.

OK. I deleted openct and pkcs11-helper to recreate them.
You can now fork them on your side.

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[Alon Bar-Lev]

On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 6:00 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
 wrote:
> 2012/11/16 Alon Bar-Lev 
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Alon Bar-Lev 
>> wrote:
>> > On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
>> >  wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2012/11/14 Ludovic Rousseau 
>> >>>
>> >>> I could not migrate:
>> >>> - pkcs11-help. Something fails in the authors names conversion
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I forked the github repository of Alon. pkcs11-helper is now available
>> >> under the OpenSC organization.
>> >> https://github.com/OpenSC/pkcs11-helper
>> >>
>> >>> I have not tried to migrate:
>> >>> - OpenCT
>> >>> - OpenSC-Java
>> >>> Aren't these projects obsolete now?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I tried to convert OpenCT.
>> >> But I could not get the author correspondence. Some SVN revisions have
>> >> no author and confuse svn2git.
>> >
>> > I will prepare github for you to use.
>>
>> Ready:
>> https://github.com/alonbl/openct
>
>
> Forked at https://github.com/OpenSC/openct

No... it should not be forked it should be entire clone.
>From this one I should fork mine if I work on openct.
Same for other projects opensc repos should be the master as they
are formal upstream.

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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

[Ludovic Rousseau]

2012/11/17 Ludovic Rousseau :
> 2012/11/17 Andreas Jellinghaus 
>> SF is sourceforge.net I guess? it still has the opensc project (that
>> was used many, many years ago).
>> Owners are juha and olaf - if you can reach them, you can re-activate it.
>
> I just sent a email to Olaf and Juha. I hope they still read the
> emails sent to their SF.net contact address.

That was fast.
Juha added me as admin.

It would be best if other active people are also added as admin.
Viktor, do you have a SourceForge account?

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[Ludovic Rousseau]

2012/11/17 Andreas Jellinghaus 
> SF is sourceforge.net I guess? it still has the opensc project (that
> was used many, many years ago).
> Owners are juha and olaf - if you can reach them, you can re-activate it.

I just sent a email to Olaf and Juha. I hope they still read the
emails sent to their SF.net contact address.

If we can't (re)use the SourceForge OpenSC project then hosting the
OpenSC mailing list(s) at groups.google.com would be a good solution.

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[Ludovic Rousseau]

2012/11/16 Alon Bar-Lev 

> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Alon Bar-Lev 
> wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
> >  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> 2012/11/14 Ludovic Rousseau 
> >>>
> >>> I could not migrate:
> >>> - pkcs11-help. Something fails in the authors names conversion
> >>
> >>
> >> I forked the github repository of Alon. pkcs11-helper is now available
> under the OpenSC organization.
> >> https://github.com/OpenSC/pkcs11-helper
> >>
> >>> I have not tried to migrate:
> >>> - OpenCT
> >>> - OpenSC-Java
> >>> Aren't these projects obsolete now?
> >>
> >>
> >> I tried to convert OpenCT.
> >> But I could not get the author correspondence. Some SVN revisions have
> no author and confuse svn2git.
> >
> > I will prepare github for you to use.
>
> Ready:
> https://github.com/alonbl/openct
>

Forked at https://github.com/OpenSC/openct

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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

[Andreas Jellinghaus]

2012/11/16 Viktor Tarasov :
> Hello Peter,
>
> Le 16/11/2012 21:42, Peter Stuge a écrit :
>> Viktor Tarasov wrote:
>>> I propose to start migration the week 19-25.11 . I'll have more free time:
>>> - sources: all sources will migrate to github;
>>> - CI: CI server is currently hosted by 'opensc.fr' ;
>>> - download: on the same platform can be hosted the file server;
>>> - TRAC (wiki?): it seems that Peter Stuge proposed to do something
>>> with Trac.
>>> Peter, if you are here, can you take this part, or at least explain
>>> how it could be done, please?
>>> If no suggestions, Trac can also be hosted by 'opensc.fr' .
>> Educating someone on how to do a migration is as I'm sure you know a
>> whole lot more work than performing the migration. If there's desire
>> I'm of course still happy to host a Trac, but please keep in mind
>> that Trac is a lot less useful when source code is somewhere else.
>
> It seems that decision to move all sources to github is accepted.
> Do you mean that with sources on github it would be more useful to use the 
> bug system and wiki on github,
> as Ludovic proposed,
> and not the Trac installed on someone's platform ?
> (I need some time to discover Trac's internals and how it interacts with SCM 
> .)
>
> As far as I understood, in any case we have to start from sqlite dump of the 
> current OpenSC Trac.
> Andreas, can you do it, please ?

sure, send a mail. trac is kept in postgresql though, not sqlite. we
have nightly backups, if you want the
dump files. plus of course the backup directory with templates,
attachments and so on.


>> Please add my SSH key on the server and let me know, if you want me
>> to look into moving Trac out.
>>
>>
>>> - mailling list: the same, if no other suggestions, I'm ready to
>>> install/migrate it to 'opensc.fr' platform.
>>> Would be nice if one of the experts explain what is the actions to
>>> follow for such migration.
>> I don't like mailman too much. I've set it up, but I don't use it.
>> I'd suggest using SF for the list(s?).
>
> Could you expand 'SF' or give the link, please?

SF is sourceforge.net I guess? it still has the opensc project (that
was used many, many years ago).
Owners are juha and olaf - if you can reach them, you can re-activate it.

Andreas

>
>> //Peter
>
> Kind regards,
> Viktor.
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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

[Andreas Jellinghaus]

2012/11/16 Peter Stuge :
> Ludovic Rousseau wrote:
>> Andreas, the host available at opensc-project.org will disapear at the
>> end of the year 2012 [2].
>
> I think you misunderstood what Andreas wrote in his email.
>
> I think that what Andreas was saying is that someone else needs to be
> root and care for the machine.
>
> I don't expect that it will be any problem whatsoever to keep the VM
> around until whenever it is easy to change DNS, as long as someone is
> actually taking care of the system.

well, noone is maintaining the VM. so if we don't have enough resorces
for this now, it is not proper to assume we will magically have them
sometimes later. the more I think about it, the more I think using a
service is better than running your own server. github, sourceforge,
savannah, code.google.com - its not like we don't have options. worst
case I can do something, but it seems people already migrated all code
to github, so that part is taken care of. the mailing list is archived
in many other places, so I guess we don't need to migrate the mailing
list archive. as for the list itself, extracting subscribers and
asking them to subscribe somewhere (e.g. a new groups.google.com list
or some other place) should be easy.
as for trac: no idea what to do best. I think the wiki pages are
valuable. the bug tracking I see as nice to have, but not essential.
Of course if someone wants to invest time into this - then it is also
your choice to take the proper direction.

Andreas

> Of course when noone is able to and other offers aren't useful, then
> all that remains is to rely on free (beer) services like github or SF.
>
>
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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

[Peter Stuge]

Viktor Tarasov wrote:
> >> - mailling list: the same, if no other suggestions, I'm ready to
> >> install/migrate it to 'opensc.fr' platform.
> >> Would be nice if one of the experts explain what is the actions to
> >> follow for such migration.
> > I don't like mailman too much. I've set it up, but I don't use it.
> > I'd suggest using SF for the list(s?).
> 
> Could you expand 'SF' or give the link, please?

Sorry - missed this one. SF = sourceforge

While I disagree with most other uses of SF because of their quite
unfriendly terms of service (a function of US law of course) I think
that mailing lists are OK. Subscribing to lists doesn't require an SF
account, and SF doesn't add overly much spam to the posts.


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[Peter Stuge]

Viktor Tarasov wrote:
> Do you mean that with sources on github it would be more useful to
> use the bug system and wiki on github, as Ludovic proposed,
> and not the Trac installed on someone's platform ?

I don't know how well github issues and wiki integrate with repos -
what I've seen isn't too convincing. :\

Trac somewhere else will not automatically know what happens in
repositories on github. I don't know if github can be told to push
out events to somewhere else. Worst case it is of course possible to
poll github for changes, but that's not really nice.


> (I need some time to discover Trac's internals and how it interacts
> with SCM .)

The Trac repo model unfortunately doesn't fit Git too well, so
Trac+Git operation is not as simple as it could have been. The
reason is simply that Trac is from a time with no Git.

Internals aside, external interaction amounts to telling Trac that a
commit was added to a repository, by running trac-admin changeset
added $reponame $changeid for each new commit. If history rewriting
is allowed then it's neccessary to run a different command, resync,
whenever a rewrite happens.


> As far as I understood, in any case we have to start from sqlite
> dump of the current OpenSC Trac. Andreas, can you do it, please ?

Unfortunately the sqlite database isn't enough. If I'm going to do a
migration please just add my key on the server.


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[Viktor Tarasov]

Hello Peter,

Le 16/11/2012 21:42, Peter Stuge a écrit :
> Viktor Tarasov wrote:
>> I propose to start migration the week 19-25.11 . I'll have more free time:
>> - sources: all sources will migrate to github;
>> - CI: CI server is currently hosted by 'opensc.fr' ;
>> - download: on the same platform can be hosted the file server;
>> - TRAC (wiki?): it seems that Peter Stuge proposed to do something
>> with Trac.
>> Peter, if you are here, can you take this part, or at least explain
>> how it could be done, please?
>> If no suggestions, Trac can also be hosted by 'opensc.fr' .
> Educating someone on how to do a migration is as I'm sure you know a
> whole lot more work than performing the migration. If there's desire
> I'm of course still happy to host a Trac, but please keep in mind
> that Trac is a lot less useful when source code is somewhere else.

It seems that decision to move all sources to github is accepted.
Do you mean that with sources on github it would be more useful to use the bug 
system and wiki on github,
as Ludovic proposed,
and not the Trac installed on someone's platform ?
(I need some time to discover Trac's internals and how it interacts with SCM .)

As far as I understood, in any case we have to start from sqlite dump of the 
current OpenSC Trac.
Andreas, can you do it, please ?


> Please add my SSH key on the server and let me know, if you want me
> to look into moving Trac out.
>
>
>> - mailling list: the same, if no other suggestions, I'm ready to
>> install/migrate it to 'opensc.fr' platform.
>> Would be nice if one of the experts explain what is the actions to
>> follow for such migration.
> I don't like mailman too much. I've set it up, but I don't use it.
> I'd suggest using SF for the list(s?).

Could you expand 'SF' or give the link, please?

> //Peter

Kind regards,
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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

[Alon Bar-Lev]

On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Alon Bar-Lev  wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
>  wrote:
>>
>>
>> 2012/11/14 Ludovic Rousseau 
>>>
>>> I could not migrate:
>>> - pkcs11-help. Something fails in the authors names conversion
>>
>>
>> I forked the github repository of Alon. pkcs11-helper is now available under 
>> the OpenSC organization.
>> https://github.com/OpenSC/pkcs11-helper
>>
>>> I have not tried to migrate:
>>> - OpenCT
>>> - OpenSC-Java
>>> Aren't these projects obsolete now?
>>
>>
>> I tried to convert OpenCT.
>> But I could not get the author correspondence. Some SVN revisions have no 
>> author and confuse svn2git.
>
> I will prepare github for you to use.

Ready:
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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

[Peter Stuge]

Andreas Jellinghaus wrote:
> I wonder what we can or should do to improve the state of the project.

I think it's clear that only very few entities are putting resources
into the project.


> there hasn't been any real discussion, no back and forth about the
> merrits of the different proposals, and no convergence on one
> option or decission by anyone.

I think even this is way too much to expect from those who do put
resources into the project. Noone who is contributing seems to have
much experience from hosting, so discussion about hosting is really
difficult. (I may have plenty of experience, but I don't contribute
very much to the project.)


> It seems to me the state of the project is defunct: while there are
> requests, proposals, options and offerings, we are not getting
> towards a decission or action it seems, as noone decides anything
> or gets people to agree or to do things.

There's a fairly fundamental disagreement between development styles.
I e.g. advocate security-conscious development and great results,
even if slow, while everyone else who has spoken on that matter
advocates fast change with perhaps less importance on technical
quality and elegance.

It's sad that less-than-great results is acceptable in open source
under any circumstance, but since I'm not even putting development
resources into the project it doesn't matter at all what I think
about that.

IMO it's largely a waste of time to migrate away from an existing
working system unless the services really can not be updated in
place.


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[Peter Stuge]

Viktor Tarasov wrote:
> I propose to start migration the week 19-25.11 . I'll have more free time:
> - sources: all sources will migrate to github;
> - CI: CI server is currently hosted by 'opensc.fr' ;
> - download: on the same platform can be hosted the file server;
> - TRAC (wiki?): it seems that Peter Stuge proposed to do something
> with Trac.
> Peter, if you are here, can you take this part, or at least explain
> how it could be done, please?
> If no suggestions, Trac can also be hosted by 'opensc.fr' .

Educating someone on how to do a migration is as I'm sure you know a
whole lot more work than performing the migration. If there's desire
I'm of course still happy to host a Trac, but please keep in mind
that Trac is a lot less useful when source code is somewhere else.

Please add my SSH key on the server and let me know, if you want me
to look into moving Trac out.


> - mailling list: the same, if no other suggestions, I'm ready to
> install/migrate it to 'opensc.fr' platform.
> Would be nice if one of the experts explain what is the actions to
> follow for such migration.

I don't like mailman too much. I've set it up, but I don't use it.
I'd suggest using SF for the list(s?).


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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

[Peter Stuge]

Ludovic Rousseau wrote:
> Andreas, the host available at opensc-project.org will disapear at the
> end of the year 2012 [2].

I think you misunderstood what Andreas wrote in his email.

I think that what Andreas was saying is that someone else needs to be
root and care for the machine.

I don't expect that it will be any problem whatsoever to keep the VM
around until whenever it is easy to change DNS, as long as someone is
actually taking care of the system.

Of course when noone is able to and other offers aren't useful, then
all that remains is to rely on free (beer) services like github or SF.


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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

[Andreas Jellinghaus]

2012/11/14 Ludovic Rousseau :
> Andreas, the host available at opensc-project.org will disapear at the end
> of the year 2012 [2]. The domain name has been transfered to Martin Paljak a
> year ago [3]. But Martin is now missing. Can you transfer the
> opensc-project.org domain name to Viktor or someone else?

Sorry, only Martin has now access to the domain :(

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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

[Ludovic Rousseau]

2012/11/14 Andreas Schwier 

> We are still maintaining a version of OpenSC-Java. If you migrate the
> repo to GITHUB I will care for it.
>

Now available at https://github.com/OpenSC/OpenSC-Java

I pushed 3 branches:
- master
- pkcs11-0.2-branch
- pkcs11-test-0.2-branch

The latest commit in master is 4 years old.

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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

[Andreas Schwier]

We are still maintaining a version of OpenSC-Java. If you migrate the
repo to GITHUB I will care for it.

Andreas

Am 14.11.2012 21:20, schrieb Ludovic Rousseau:
>
> 2012/11/14 Ludovic Rousseau  >
>
> I could not migrate:
> - pkcs11-help. Something fails in the authors names conversion
>
>
> I forked the github repository of Alon. pkcs11-helper is now available
> under the OpenSC organization.
> https://github.com/OpenSC/pkcs11-helper
>
> I have not tried to migrate:
> - OpenCT
> - OpenSC-Java
> Aren't these projects obsolete now?
>
>
> I tried to convert OpenCT.
> But I could not get the author correspondence. Some SVN revisions have
> no author and confuse svn2git.
>
> Bye
>
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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

[Alon Bar-Lev]

On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
 wrote:
>
>
> 2012/11/14 Ludovic Rousseau 
>>
>> I could not migrate:
>> - pkcs11-help. Something fails in the authors names conversion
>
>
> I forked the github repository of Alon. pkcs11-helper is now available under 
> the OpenSC organization.
> https://github.com/OpenSC/pkcs11-helper
>
>> I have not tried to migrate:
>> - OpenCT
>> - OpenSC-Java
>> Aren't these projects obsolete now?
>
>
> I tried to convert OpenCT.
> But I could not get the author correspondence. Some SVN revisions have no 
> author and confuse svn2git.

I will prepare github for you to use.

>
> Bye
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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

[Ludovic Rousseau]

2012/11/14 Ludovic Rousseau 

> I could not migrate:
> - pkcs11-help. Something fails in the authors names conversion
>

I forked the github repository of Alon. pkcs11-helper is now available
under the OpenSC organization.
https://github.com/OpenSC/pkcs11-helper

 I have not tried to migrate:
> - OpenCT
> - OpenSC-Java
> Aren't these projects obsolete now?
>

I tried to convert OpenCT.
But I could not get the author correspondence. Some SVN revisions have no
author and confuse svn2git.

Bye

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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

[Ludovic Rousseau]

Hello,

2012/11/11 Viktor Tarasov 

> I propose to start migration the week 19-25.11 . I'll have more free time:
> - sources: all sources will migrate to github;
>

I just migrated the following projects to github on the OpenSC organization:
- libp11
- engine_pkcs11
- pam_p11
- pam_pkcs11

See https://github.com/OpenSC

I could not migrate:
- pkcs11-help. Something fails in the authors names conversion

I have not tried to migrate:
- OpenCT
- OpenSC-Java
Aren't these projects obsolete now?

I used svn2git [1] with the attached authors.txt file

- TRAC (wiki?): it seems that Peter Stuge proposed to do something with
> Trac.
> Peter, if you are here, can you take this part, or at least explain how it
> could be done, please?
> If no suggestions, Trac can also be hosted by 'opensc.fr' .
>

github provides a wiki and bug tracking system.
I have no objection to use trac at opensc.fr.

- mailling list: the same, if no other suggestions, I'm ready to
> install/migrate it to 'opensc.fr' platform.
> Would be nice if one of the experts explain what is the actions to follow
> for such migration.
>

opensc-project.org use mailman as the list manager and

# list_lists
5 matching mailing lists found:
Mailman - [no description available]
opensc-announce - A mailing list for OpenSC announcements
 opensc-commits - OpenSC source code commit notifications
   opensc-devel - Development of OpenSC and other smart card related
software
opensc-user - (INACTIVE) A mailing list for OpenSC users

I can retrieve the list of subscribers using list_members(8).
Vitkor, it looks like you do not have access to the
opensc-project.orgsystem. I can help you with the migration.

Viktor, I am not/no more a Unix system admin. But I volunteer to help if
needed. I think it is a good idea to have more than one (you?) system
administrator.

Andreas, the host available at opensc-project.org will disapear at the end
of the year 2012 [2]. The domain name has been transfered to Martin
Paljaka year ago [3]. But Martin is now missing. Can you transfer the
opensc-project.org domain name to Viktor or someone else?

Regards,

[1] https://github.com/nirvdrum/svn2git
[2] http://www.opensc-project.org/pipermail/opensc-devel
/2012-September/018377.html
[3] http://www.opensc-project.org/pipermail/opensc-devel
/2011-October/017312.html

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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

[Viktor Tarasov]

Hello,

Le 11/11/2012 16:28, Andreas Jellinghaus a écrit :
> I wonder what we can or should do to improve the state of the project.
> It seems to me:
> * the last release was 0.12.2, released on 17.07.2011, not enough
> progress to create a release since.
> * that is a maintenance release, the last major version was opensc
> 0.12.0 in 22-Dec-2010.

We are preparing 0.13.0 release on the base of the master/staging branch of 
Github OpenSC/OpenSC.
Now it's at rc1.
The candidates have been relatively well tested with some cards.
The nightly builds and release candidates are on the OpenSC file server and in 
CI service.

My intention is to publish the next major release during the last two weeks of 
November.
There are still few regression issues with MacOS and old cards.

I guess it's a good occasion to migrate the project.

What is the procedure to follow when publishing a new major release ?


> * discussions about new server / some migration / some improvement
> etc. are similar old, no significant results yet
>
> While there have been some proposals, e.g. in the thread about the
> future of the server, there hasn't been any real
> discussion, no back and forth about the merrits of the different
> proposals, and no convergence on one option or decission
> by anyone.
>
> It seems to me the state of the project is defunct: while there are
> requests, proposals, options and offerings, we are not
> getting towards a decission or action it seems, as noone decides
> anything or gets people to agree or to do things.
>
> I haven't touched a smart card in over a year, so don't expect me to
> do anything - that wouldn't work.
>
> But if anyone is still concerned about the project, I think it is time
> you take action. Don't look for anyone else,
> it is you or noone. But many people offered help, if you want to drive
> the project forward.

I propose to start migration the week 19-25.11 . I'll have more free time:
- sources: all sources will migrate to github;
- CI: CI server is currently hosted by 'opensc.fr' ;
- download: on the same platform can be hosted the file server;
- TRAC (wiki?): it seems that Peter Stuge proposed to do something with Trac.
Peter, if you are here, can you take this part, or at least explain how it 
could be done, please? 
If no suggestions, Trac can also be hosted by 'opensc.fr' .
- mailling list: the same, if no other suggestions, I'm ready to 
install/migrate it to 'opensc.fr' platform.
Would be nice if one of the experts explain what is the actions to follow for 
such migration.


> Regards, Andreas

Kind wishes,
Viktor.

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[opensc-devel] state of the project?

[Andreas Jellinghaus]

Hi,

I wonder what we can or should do to improve the state of the project.
It seems to me:
* the last release was 0.12.2, released on 17.07.2011, not enough
progress to create a release since.
* that is a maintenance release, the last major version was opensc
0.12.0 in 22-Dec-2010.
* discussions about new server / some migration / some improvement
etc. are similar old, no significant results yet

While there have been some proposals, e.g. in the thread about the
future of the server, there hasn't been any real
discussion, no back and forth about the merrits of the different
proposals, and no convergence on one option or decission
by anyone.

It seems to me the state of the project is defunct: while there are
requests, proposals, options and offerings, we are not
getting towards a decission or action it seems, as noone decides
anything or gets people to agree or to do things.

I haven't touched a smart card in over a year, so don't expect me to
do anything - that wouldn't work.

But if anyone is still concerned about the project, I think it is time
you take action. Don't look for anyone else,
it is you or noone. But many people offered help, if you want to drive
the project forward.

Regards, Andreas
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