Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?
2012/11/23 Alon Bar-Lev alon.bar...@gmail.com: On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Ludovic Rousseau ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/11/23 Alon Bar-Lev alon.bar...@gmail.com: You copied the repositories without tags. I fixed this for openct, pkcs11-helper, but I guess you should check all repositories moved, make sure we did not lose anything. Exact. svn2git did not get the tags for releases :-( I added them by hand for pam_pkcs11. I used git-svn which was great. I guess you had to convert branches to tags. I re-did the SVN to GIT convertion (including tags for releases) for: - pam_pkcs11 - OpenSC-java - libp11 - engine_pkcs11 - pam_p11 I hope it is correct now. Bye -- Dr. Ludovic Rousseau ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel
Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Alon Bar-Lev alon.bar...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Ludovic Rousseau ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/11/22 Alon Bar-Lev alon.bar...@gmail.com On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Ludovic Rousseau ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, 2012/11/17 Alon Bar-Lev alon.bar...@gmail.com: On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 11:54 PM, Ludovic Rousseau I don't think I can give you admin access to only these 2 projects. I can add you as a member of the OpenSC organisation and you would have access to all the repositories. Yes you can, there are teams, each team can have admin/write/read access to specific repositories. I created a OpenCT maintainers team [1]. Alon Bar-Lev is the only member of the team but I can add others. Please do the same for pkcs11-helper, thanks! Thanks! Hi, You copied the repositories without tags. I fixed this for openct, pkcs11-helper, but I guess you should check all repositories moved, make sure we did not lose anything. Alon ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel
Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Ludovic Rousseau ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/11/23 Alon Bar-Lev alon.bar...@gmail.com: You copied the repositories without tags. I fixed this for openct, pkcs11-helper, but I guess you should check all repositories moved, make sure we did not lose anything. Exact. svn2git did not get the tags for releases :-( I added them by hand for pam_pkcs11. I used git-svn which was great. Alon ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel
Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?
2012/11/22 Alon Bar-Lev alon.bar...@gmail.com On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Ludovic Rousseau ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, 2012/11/17 Alon Bar-Lev alon.bar...@gmail.com: On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 11:54 PM, Ludovic Rousseau I don't think I can give you admin access to only these 2 projects. I can add you as a member of the OpenSC organisation and you would have access to all the repositories. Yes you can, there are teams, each team can have admin/write/read access to specific repositories. I created a OpenCT maintainers team [1]. Alon Bar-Lev is the only member of the team but I can add others. Please do the same for pkcs11-helper, thanks! Done. -- Dr. Ludovic Rousseau ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel
Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Ludovic Rousseau ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/11/22 Alon Bar-Lev alon.bar...@gmail.com On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Ludovic Rousseau ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, 2012/11/17 Alon Bar-Lev alon.bar...@gmail.com: On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 11:54 PM, Ludovic Rousseau I don't think I can give you admin access to only these 2 projects. I can add you as a member of the OpenSC organisation and you would have access to all the repositories. Yes you can, there are teams, each team can have admin/write/read access to specific repositories. I created a OpenCT maintainers team [1]. Alon Bar-Lev is the only member of the team but I can add others. Please do the same for pkcs11-helper, thanks! Thanks! ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel
Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?
Hello, 2012/11/18 Andreas Schwier andreas.schw...@cardcontact.de: My point is, that I offer to do the integration on opensc-java (as I already had commit rights to the old repository). I just created a OpenSC-Java maintainers team. Give me your github login and I add you to the team. You will then be able to push changes. Bye -- Dr. Ludovic Rousseau ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel
Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?
Hello, 2012/11/17 Alon Bar-Lev alon.bar...@gmail.com: On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 11:54 PM, Ludovic Rousseau I don't think I can give you admin access to only these 2 projects. I can add you as a member of the OpenSC organisation and you would have access to all the repositories. Yes you can, there are teams, each team can have admin/write/read access to specific repositories. I created a OpenCT maintainers team [1]. Alon Bar-Lev is the only member of the team but I can add others. Alon, you should be able to push changes directly in OpenSC / openct If you need something else just ask the OpenSC owners (Martin, Viktor and myself for now). Bye [1] https://github.com/organizations/OpenSC/teams -- Dr. Ludovic Rousseau ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel
Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?
Hello On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 7:37 PM, Ludovic Rousseau ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com wrote: But Martin is now missing. :) I've not fallen off the edge of the earth, but I've been only digesting e-mails that have been addressed to me directly and thus ended up in main inbox (which not many have, at least according to gmail filtering) Martin ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel
Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?
It's probably a good occasion to clean-up the list. We should define a date at which we switch to the new list and send a final termination notice with pointers to the new list. After that notice we should reject any further e-mails to the list and keep the archive around a little longer. Andreas Am 21.11.2012 17:59, schrieb Ludovic Rousseau: 2012/11/18 Ludovic Rousseau ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com: 2012/11/18 Viktor Tarasov viktor.tara...@gmail.com: mailing list will go (without archive ?) to SourceForge, or, in case of the last minute obstacles, to groups.google.com. The numbers of members to the 3 lists hosted at opensc-project.org are: 546 opensc-devel_members.txt 129 opensc-announce_members.txt 39 opensc-commits_members.txt I created 3 mailing lists at SourceForge OpenSC project https://sourceforge.net/p/opensc/mailman/ It looks like it is possible to mass subscribe to a mailman list [1]. But I could not find how using the SourceForge list interface. I found how to mass subscribe to the new mailing lists I created. Maybe the only (and good) solution is to ask people to subscribe at SourceForge. What do you think is best: - mass subscription without asking for permission? - ask people to subscribe to the new lists? Maybe some people are on the list but no more interested by OpenSC. Maybe they just redirect the emails into the spam/trash folder. What do you think? Thanks -- -CardContact Software System Consulting |.## ##.| Andreas Schwier |# #| Schülerweg 38 |# #| 32429 Minden, Germany |'## ##'| Phone +49 571 56149 -http://www.cardcontact.de http://www.tscons.de http://www.openscdp.org ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel
Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?
Hello, On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Ludovic Rousseau ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe some people are on the list but no more interested by OpenSC. Maybe they just redirect the emails into the spam/trash folder. There's a fairly constant flow of people to and off the list according to subscription notices, so I believe the folder people either track it passively or actually do know when then unsubscribe or re-subscribe. Martin ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel
Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 11:57 PM, Peter Stuge pe...@stuge.se wrote: Ludovic Rousseau wrote: The idea of git is to _not_ have to give access. Just send pull requests and I (or another admin) will pull your code. No, the purpose of git must not be limiting access :) Yes and no. Multiple people writing to a central repo works perfectly fine also with git. Yes. The Original Goal(tm) was that instead of bureaucratic rubber-stamping commits and dividing the whoever extra pair of eyes and brains and access would actually look, read, digest *and if necessary, reject* a pull request and mentor it with reasonable comments. Be it coherent design, sloppy naming and whitespace, comments in chinese or something else. Martin ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel
Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 7:25 PM, Martin Paljak mar...@martinpaljak.net wrote: Yes and no. Multiple people writing to a central repo works perfectly fine also with git. Yes. The Original Goal(tm) was that instead of bureaucratic rubber-stamping commits and dividing the whoever extra pair of eyes and brains and access would actually look, read, digest *and if necessary, reject* a pull request and mentor it with reasonable comments. Be it coherent design, sloppy naming and whitespace, comments in chinese or something else. And the fact that feedback before merging is better than when somebody goes on to janitoring some code (OK for generic cleanup but usually causes psychological stress if it includes something more) Martin ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel
Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?
Bonjour, On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 7:37 PM, Ludovic Rousseau ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com wrote: Andreas, the host available at opensc-project.org will disapear at the end of the year 2012 [2]. There will be a semi-managed (meaning managed backup and other monitoring) Debian box available for the foreseeable future. I'll shift the current authorized_keys file over and send a private e-mail with details to the ones in the ssh list. Martin ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel
Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Ludovic Rousseau ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, 2012/11/17 Alon Bar-Lev alon.bar...@gmail.com: On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 11:54 PM, Ludovic Rousseau I don't think I can give you admin access to only these 2 projects. I can add you as a member of the OpenSC organisation and you would have access to all the repositories. Yes you can, there are teams, each team can have admin/write/read access to specific repositories. I created a OpenCT maintainers team [1]. Alon Bar-Lev is the only member of the team but I can add others. Alon, you should be able to push changes directly in OpenSC / openct If you need something else just ask the OpenSC owners (Martin, Viktor and myself for now). Bye [1] https://github.com/organizations/OpenSC/teams -- Dr. Ludovic Rousseau Please do the same for pkcs11-helper, thanks! ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel
Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?
Le 17/11/2012 17:40, Ludovic Rousseau a écrit : 2012/11/17 Ludovic Rousseau ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com: 2012/11/17 Andreas Jellinghaus andr...@ionisiert.de SF is sourceforge.net I guess? it still has the opensc project (that was used many, many years ago). Owners are juha and olaf - if you can reach them, you can re-activate it. I just sent a email to Olaf and Juha. I hope they still read the emails sent to their SF.net contact address. That was fast. Juha added me as admin. It would be best if other active people are also added as admin. Viktor, do you have a SourceForge account? Have created one: 'tarvik' BYe ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel
Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?
2012/11/18 Viktor Tarasov viktor.tara...@gmail.com: mailing list will go (without archive ?) to SourceForge, or, in case of the last minute obstacles, to groups.google.com. The numbers of members to the 3 lists hosted at opensc-project.org are: 546 opensc-devel_members.txt 129 opensc-announce_members.txt 39 opensc-commits_members.txt I created 3 mailing lists at SourceForge OpenSC project https://sourceforge.net/p/opensc/mailman/ It looks like it is possible to mass subscribe to a mailman list [1]. But I could not find how using the SourceForge list interface. Maybe the only (and good) solution is to ask people to subscribe at SourceForge. Bye [1] http://wiki.list.org/display/DOC/How+can+I+Mass+Subscribe+a+list+with+real+names -- Dr. Ludovic Rousseau ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel
Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?
2012/11/16 Peter Stuge pe...@stuge.se: Ludovic Rousseau wrote: Andreas, the host available at opensc-project.org will disapear at the end of the year 2012 [2]. I think you misunderstood what Andreas wrote in his email. I think that what Andreas was saying is that someone else needs to be root and care for the machine. I don't expect that it will be any problem whatsoever to keep the VM around until whenever it is easy to change DNS, as long as someone is actually taking care of the system. well, noone is maintaining the VM. so if we don't have enough resorces for this now, it is not proper to assume we will magically have them sometimes later. the more I think about it, the more I think using a service is better than running your own server. github, sourceforge, savannah, code.google.com - its not like we don't have options. worst case I can do something, but it seems people already migrated all code to github, so that part is taken care of. the mailing list is archived in many other places, so I guess we don't need to migrate the mailing list archive. as for the list itself, extracting subscribers and asking them to subscribe somewhere (e.g. a new groups.google.com list or some other place) should be easy. as for trac: no idea what to do best. I think the wiki pages are valuable. the bug tracking I see as nice to have, but not essential. Of course if someone wants to invest time into this - then it is also your choice to take the proper direction. Andreas Of course when noone is able to and other offers aren't useful, then all that remains is to rely on free (beer) services like github or SF. //Peter ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel
Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?
2012/11/16 Viktor Tarasov viktor.tara...@gmail.com: Hello Peter, Le 16/11/2012 21:42, Peter Stuge a écrit : Viktor Tarasov wrote: I propose to start migration the week 19-25.11 . I'll have more free time: - sources: all sources will migrate to github; - CI: CI server is currently hosted by 'opensc.fr' ; - download: on the same platform can be hosted the file server; - TRAC (wiki?): it seems that Peter Stuge proposed to do something with Trac. Peter, if you are here, can you take this part, or at least explain how it could be done, please? If no suggestions, Trac can also be hosted by 'opensc.fr' . Educating someone on how to do a migration is as I'm sure you know a whole lot more work than performing the migration. If there's desire I'm of course still happy to host a Trac, but please keep in mind that Trac is a lot less useful when source code is somewhere else. It seems that decision to move all sources to github is accepted. Do you mean that with sources on github it would be more useful to use the bug system and wiki on github, as Ludovic proposed, and not the Trac installed on someone's platform ? (I need some time to discover Trac's internals and how it interacts with SCM .) As far as I understood, in any case we have to start from sqlite dump of the current OpenSC Trac. Andreas, can you do it, please ? sure, send a mail. trac is kept in postgresql though, not sqlite. we have nightly backups, if you want the dump files. plus of course the backup directory with templates, attachments and so on. Please add my SSH key on the server and let me know, if you want me to look into moving Trac out. - mailling list: the same, if no other suggestions, I'm ready to install/migrate it to 'opensc.fr' platform. Would be nice if one of the experts explain what is the actions to follow for such migration. I don't like mailman too much. I've set it up, but I don't use it. I'd suggest using SF for the list(s?). Could you expand 'SF' or give the link, please? SF is sourceforge.net I guess? it still has the opensc project (that was used many, many years ago). Owners are juha and olaf - if you can reach them, you can re-activate it. Andreas //Peter Kind regards, Viktor. ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel
Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?
2012/11/16 Alon Bar-Lev alon.bar...@gmail.com On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Alon Bar-Lev alon.bar...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Ludovic Rousseau ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/11/14 Ludovic Rousseau ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com I could not migrate: - pkcs11-help. Something fails in the authors names conversion I forked the github repository of Alon. pkcs11-helper is now available under the OpenSC organization. https://github.com/OpenSC/pkcs11-helper I have not tried to migrate: - OpenCT - OpenSC-Java Aren't these projects obsolete now? I tried to convert OpenCT. But I could not get the author correspondence. Some SVN revisions have no author and confuse svn2git. I will prepare github for you to use. Ready: https://github.com/alonbl/openct Forked at https://github.com/OpenSC/openct Thanks -- Dr. Ludovic Rousseau ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel
Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?
2012/11/17 Andreas Jellinghaus andr...@ionisiert.de SF is sourceforge.net I guess? it still has the opensc project (that was used many, many years ago). Owners are juha and olaf - if you can reach them, you can re-activate it. I just sent a email to Olaf and Juha. I hope they still read the emails sent to their SF.net contact address. If we can't (re)use the SourceForge OpenSC project then hosting the OpenSC mailing list(s) at groups.google.com would be a good solution. Bye -- Dr. Ludovic Rousseau ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel
Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?
2012/11/17 Ludovic Rousseau ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com: 2012/11/17 Andreas Jellinghaus andr...@ionisiert.de SF is sourceforge.net I guess? it still has the opensc project (that was used many, many years ago). Owners are juha and olaf - if you can reach them, you can re-activate it. I just sent a email to Olaf and Juha. I hope they still read the emails sent to their SF.net contact address. That was fast. Juha added me as admin. It would be best if other active people are also added as admin. Viktor, do you have a SourceForge account? BYe -- Dr. Ludovic Rousseau ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel
Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 6:00 PM, Ludovic Rousseau ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/11/16 Alon Bar-Lev alon.bar...@gmail.com On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Alon Bar-Lev alon.bar...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Ludovic Rousseau ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/11/14 Ludovic Rousseau ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com I could not migrate: - pkcs11-help. Something fails in the authors names conversion I forked the github repository of Alon. pkcs11-helper is now available under the OpenSC organization. https://github.com/OpenSC/pkcs11-helper I have not tried to migrate: - OpenCT - OpenSC-Java Aren't these projects obsolete now? I tried to convert OpenCT. But I could not get the author correspondence. Some SVN revisions have no author and confuse svn2git. I will prepare github for you to use. Ready: https://github.com/alonbl/openct Forked at https://github.com/OpenSC/openct No... it should not be forked it should be entire clone. From this one I should fork mine if I work on openct. Same for other projects opensc repos should be the master as they are formal upstream. Alon ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel
Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?
2012/11/17 Alon Bar-Lev alon.bar...@gmail.com: On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 6:00 PM, Ludovic Rousseau ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/11/16 Alon Bar-Lev alon.bar...@gmail.com On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Alon Bar-Lev alon.bar...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Ludovic Rousseau ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/11/14 Ludovic Rousseau ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com I could not migrate: - pkcs11-help. Something fails in the authors names conversion I forked the github repository of Alon. pkcs11-helper is now available under the OpenSC organization. https://github.com/OpenSC/pkcs11-helper I have not tried to migrate: - OpenCT - OpenSC-Java Aren't these projects obsolete now? I tried to convert OpenCT. But I could not get the author correspondence. Some SVN revisions have no author and confuse svn2git. I will prepare github for you to use. Ready: https://github.com/alonbl/openct Forked at https://github.com/OpenSC/openct No... it should not be forked it should be entire clone. From this one I should fork mine if I work on openct. Same for other projects opensc repos should be the master as they are formal upstream. OK. I deleted openct and pkcs11-helper to recreate them. You can now fork them on your side. Bye -- Dr. Ludovic Rousseau ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel
Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Ludovic Rousseau ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/11/17 Alon Bar-Lev alon.bar...@gmail.com: On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 6:00 PM, Ludovic Rousseau ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/11/16 Alon Bar-Lev alon.bar...@gmail.com On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Alon Bar-Lev alon.bar...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Ludovic Rousseau ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/11/14 Ludovic Rousseau ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com I could not migrate: - pkcs11-help. Something fails in the authors names conversion I forked the github repository of Alon. pkcs11-helper is now available under the OpenSC organization. https://github.com/OpenSC/pkcs11-helper I have not tried to migrate: - OpenCT - OpenSC-Java Aren't these projects obsolete now? I tried to convert OpenCT. But I could not get the author correspondence. Some SVN revisions have no author and confuse svn2git. I will prepare github for you to use. Ready: https://github.com/alonbl/openct Forked at https://github.com/OpenSC/openct No... it should not be forked it should be entire clone. From this one I should fork mine if I work on openct. Same for other projects opensc repos should be the master as they are formal upstream. OK. I deleted openct and pkcs11-helper to recreate them. You can now fork them on your side. Thanks. It would be lovely if you give me admin access to both of these. Alon ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel
Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?
Hi Ludovic, can you grant me (git-account is CardContact) write access to OpenSC-Java ? Andreas Am 14.11.2012 23:45, schrieb Ludovic Rousseau: 2012/11/14 Andreas Schwier andreas.schw...@cardcontact.de mailto:andreas.schw...@cardcontact.de We are still maintaining a version of OpenSC-Java. If you migrate the repo to GITHUB I will care for it. Now available at https://github.com/OpenSC/OpenSC-Java I pushed 3 branches: - master - pkcs11-0.2-branch - pkcs11-test-0.2-branch The latest commit in master is 4 years old. Bye -- Dr. Ludovic Rousseau ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel -- -CardContact Software System Consulting |.## ##.| Andreas Schwier |# #| Schülerweg 38 |# #| 32429 Minden, Germany |'## ##'| Phone +49 571 56149 -http://www.cardcontact.de http://www.tscons.de http://www.openscdp.org ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel
Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?
2012/11/17 Alon Bar-Lev alon.bar...@gmail.com: On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Ludovic Rousseau ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/11/17 Alon Bar-Lev alon.bar...@gmail.com: On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 6:00 PM, Ludovic Rousseau ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/11/16 Alon Bar-Lev alon.bar...@gmail.com On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Alon Bar-Lev alon.bar...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Ludovic Rousseau ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/11/14 Ludovic Rousseau ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com I could not migrate: - pkcs11-help. Something fails in the authors names conversion I forked the github repository of Alon. pkcs11-helper is now available under the OpenSC organization. https://github.com/OpenSC/pkcs11-helper I have not tried to migrate: - OpenCT - OpenSC-Java Aren't these projects obsolete now? I tried to convert OpenCT. But I could not get the author correspondence. Some SVN revisions have no author and confuse svn2git. I will prepare github for you to use. Ready: https://github.com/alonbl/openct Forked at https://github.com/OpenSC/openct No... it should not be forked it should be entire clone. From this one I should fork mine if I work on openct. Same for other projects opensc repos should be the master as they are formal upstream. OK. I deleted openct and pkcs11-helper to recreate them. You can now fork them on your side. Thanks. It would be lovely if you give me admin access to both of these. I don't think I can give you admin access to only these 2 projects. I can add you as a member of the OpenSC organisation and you would have access to all the repositories. The idea of git is to _not_ have to give access. Just send pull requests and I (or another admin) will pull your code. Same remark for Andreas and the OpenSC-java repository. Or am I wrong? Bye -- Dr. Ludovic Rousseau ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel
Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 11:54 PM, Ludovic Rousseau ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/11/17 Alon Bar-Lev alon.bar...@gmail.com: On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Ludovic Rousseau ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/11/17 Alon Bar-Lev alon.bar...@gmail.com: On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 6:00 PM, Ludovic Rousseau ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/11/16 Alon Bar-Lev alon.bar...@gmail.com On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Alon Bar-Lev alon.bar...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Ludovic Rousseau ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/11/14 Ludovic Rousseau ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com I could not migrate: - pkcs11-help. Something fails in the authors names conversion I forked the github repository of Alon. pkcs11-helper is now available under the OpenSC organization. https://github.com/OpenSC/pkcs11-helper I have not tried to migrate: - OpenCT - OpenSC-Java Aren't these projects obsolete now? I tried to convert OpenCT. But I could not get the author correspondence. Some SVN revisions have no author and confuse svn2git. I will prepare github for you to use. Ready: https://github.com/alonbl/openct Forked at https://github.com/OpenSC/openct No... it should not be forked it should be entire clone. From this one I should fork mine if I work on openct. Same for other projects opensc repos should be the master as they are formal upstream. OK. I deleted openct and pkcs11-helper to recreate them. You can now fork them on your side. Thanks. It would be lovely if you give me admin access to both of these. I don't think I can give you admin access to only these 2 projects. I can add you as a member of the OpenSC organisation and you would have access to all the repositories. Yes you can, there are teams, each team can have admin/write/read access to specific repositories. The idea of git is to _not_ have to give access. Just send pull requests and I (or another admin) will pull your code. We return to the original question: what is the difference between people who previously had commit access and you. Same remark for Andreas and the OpenSC-java repository. Or am I wrong? Bye -- Dr. Ludovic Rousseau ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel
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Ludovic Rousseau wrote: The idea of git is to _not_ have to give access. Just send pull requests and I (or another admin) will pull your code. Yes and no. Multiple people writing to a central repo works perfectly fine also with git. //Peter ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel
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Ludovic Rousseau wrote: Andreas, the host available at opensc-project.org will disapear at the end of the year 2012 [2]. I think you misunderstood what Andreas wrote in his email. I think that what Andreas was saying is that someone else needs to be root and care for the machine. I don't expect that it will be any problem whatsoever to keep the VM around until whenever it is easy to change DNS, as long as someone is actually taking care of the system. Of course when noone is able to and other offers aren't useful, then all that remains is to rely on free (beer) services like github or SF. //Peter ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel
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Viktor Tarasov wrote: I propose to start migration the week 19-25.11 . I'll have more free time: - sources: all sources will migrate to github; - CI: CI server is currently hosted by 'opensc.fr' ; - download: on the same platform can be hosted the file server; - TRAC (wiki?): it seems that Peter Stuge proposed to do something with Trac. Peter, if you are here, can you take this part, or at least explain how it could be done, please? If no suggestions, Trac can also be hosted by 'opensc.fr' . Educating someone on how to do a migration is as I'm sure you know a whole lot more work than performing the migration. If there's desire I'm of course still happy to host a Trac, but please keep in mind that Trac is a lot less useful when source code is somewhere else. Please add my SSH key on the server and let me know, if you want me to look into moving Trac out. - mailling list: the same, if no other suggestions, I'm ready to install/migrate it to 'opensc.fr' platform. Would be nice if one of the experts explain what is the actions to follow for such migration. I don't like mailman too much. I've set it up, but I don't use it. I'd suggest using SF for the list(s?). //Peter ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel
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Andreas Jellinghaus wrote: I wonder what we can or should do to improve the state of the project. I think it's clear that only very few entities are putting resources into the project. there hasn't been any real discussion, no back and forth about the merrits of the different proposals, and no convergence on one option or decission by anyone. I think even this is way too much to expect from those who do put resources into the project. Noone who is contributing seems to have much experience from hosting, so discussion about hosting is really difficult. (I may have plenty of experience, but I don't contribute very much to the project.) It seems to me the state of the project is defunct: while there are requests, proposals, options and offerings, we are not getting towards a decission or action it seems, as noone decides anything or gets people to agree or to do things. There's a fairly fundamental disagreement between development styles. I e.g. advocate security-conscious development and great results, even if slow, while everyone else who has spoken on that matter advocates fast change with perhaps less importance on technical quality and elegance. It's sad that less-than-great results is acceptable in open source under any circumstance, but since I'm not even putting development resources into the project it doesn't matter at all what I think about that. IMO it's largely a waste of time to migrate away from an existing working system unless the services really can not be updated in place. //Peter ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel
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On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Alon Bar-Lev alon.bar...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Ludovic Rousseau ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/11/14 Ludovic Rousseau ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com I could not migrate: - pkcs11-help. Something fails in the authors names conversion I forked the github repository of Alon. pkcs11-helper is now available under the OpenSC organization. https://github.com/OpenSC/pkcs11-helper I have not tried to migrate: - OpenCT - OpenSC-Java Aren't these projects obsolete now? I tried to convert OpenCT. But I could not get the author correspondence. Some SVN revisions have no author and confuse svn2git. I will prepare github for you to use. Ready: https://github.com/alonbl/openct ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel
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Hello Peter, Le 16/11/2012 21:42, Peter Stuge a écrit : Viktor Tarasov wrote: I propose to start migration the week 19-25.11 . I'll have more free time: - sources: all sources will migrate to github; - CI: CI server is currently hosted by 'opensc.fr' ; - download: on the same platform can be hosted the file server; - TRAC (wiki?): it seems that Peter Stuge proposed to do something with Trac. Peter, if you are here, can you take this part, or at least explain how it could be done, please? If no suggestions, Trac can also be hosted by 'opensc.fr' . Educating someone on how to do a migration is as I'm sure you know a whole lot more work than performing the migration. If there's desire I'm of course still happy to host a Trac, but please keep in mind that Trac is a lot less useful when source code is somewhere else. It seems that decision to move all sources to github is accepted. Do you mean that with sources on github it would be more useful to use the bug system and wiki on github, as Ludovic proposed, and not the Trac installed on someone's platform ? (I need some time to discover Trac's internals and how it interacts with SCM .) As far as I understood, in any case we have to start from sqlite dump of the current OpenSC Trac. Andreas, can you do it, please ? Please add my SSH key on the server and let me know, if you want me to look into moving Trac out. - mailling list: the same, if no other suggestions, I'm ready to install/migrate it to 'opensc.fr' platform. Would be nice if one of the experts explain what is the actions to follow for such migration. I don't like mailman too much. I've set it up, but I don't use it. I'd suggest using SF for the list(s?). Could you expand 'SF' or give the link, please? //Peter Kind regards, Viktor. ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel
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Viktor Tarasov wrote: - mailling list: the same, if no other suggestions, I'm ready to install/migrate it to 'opensc.fr' platform. Would be nice if one of the experts explain what is the actions to follow for such migration. I don't like mailman too much. I've set it up, but I don't use it. I'd suggest using SF for the list(s?). Could you expand 'SF' or give the link, please? Sorry - missed this one. SF = sourceforge While I disagree with most other uses of SF because of their quite unfriendly terms of service (a function of US law of course) I think that mailing lists are OK. Subscribing to lists doesn't require an SF account, and SF doesn't add overly much spam to the posts. //Peter ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel
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Hello, 2012/11/11 Viktor Tarasov viktor.tara...@gmail.com I propose to start migration the week 19-25.11 . I'll have more free time: - sources: all sources will migrate to github; I just migrated the following projects to github on the OpenSC organization: - libp11 - engine_pkcs11 - pam_p11 - pam_pkcs11 See https://github.com/OpenSC I could not migrate: - pkcs11-help. Something fails in the authors names conversion I have not tried to migrate: - OpenCT - OpenSC-Java Aren't these projects obsolete now? I used svn2git [1] with the attached authors.txt file - TRAC (wiki?): it seems that Peter Stuge proposed to do something with Trac. Peter, if you are here, can you take this part, or at least explain how it could be done, please? If no suggestions, Trac can also be hosted by 'opensc.fr' . github provides a wiki and bug tracking system. I have no objection to use trac at opensc.fr. - mailling list: the same, if no other suggestions, I'm ready to install/migrate it to 'opensc.fr' platform. Would be nice if one of the experts explain what is the actions to follow for such migration. opensc-project.org use mailman as the list manager and # list_lists 5 matching mailing lists found: Mailman - [no description available] opensc-announce - A mailing list for OpenSC announcements opensc-commits - OpenSC source code commit notifications opensc-devel - Development of OpenSC and other smart card related software opensc-user - (INACTIVE) A mailing list for OpenSC users I can retrieve the list of subscribers using list_members(8). Vitkor, it looks like you do not have access to the opensc-project.orgsystem. I can help you with the migration. Viktor, I am not/no more a Unix system admin. But I volunteer to help if needed. I think it is a good idea to have more than one (you?) system administrator. Andreas, the host available at opensc-project.org will disapear at the end of the year 2012 [2]. The domain name has been transfered to Martin Paljaka year ago [3]. But Martin is now missing. Can you transfer the opensc-project.org domain name to Viktor or someone else? Regards, [1] https://github.com/nirvdrum/svn2git [2] http://www.opensc-project.org/pipermail/opensc-devel /2012-September/018377.html [3] http://www.opensc-project.org/pipermail/opensc-devel /2011-October/017312.html -- Dr. Ludovic Rousseau ludovic.rousseau = Ludovic Rousseau ludovic.rousseau+git...@gmail.com aj = Andreas Jellinghaus andr...@ionisiert.de jonsito = Juan Antonio Martinez jons...@teleline.es martin = Martin Paljak mar...@martinpaljak.net alonbl = Alon Bar-Lev alon.bar...@gmail.com nils = Nils Larsch nlar...@gmx.net jps = Jean-Pierre Szikora jean-pierre.szik...@uclouvain.be ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel
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2012/11/14 Ludovic Rousseau ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com I could not migrate: - pkcs11-help. Something fails in the authors names conversion I forked the github repository of Alon. pkcs11-helper is now available under the OpenSC organization. https://github.com/OpenSC/pkcs11-helper I have not tried to migrate: - OpenCT - OpenSC-Java Aren't these projects obsolete now? I tried to convert OpenCT. But I could not get the author correspondence. Some SVN revisions have no author and confuse svn2git. Bye -- Dr. Ludovic Rousseau ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel
Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Ludovic Rousseau ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/11/14 Ludovic Rousseau ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com I could not migrate: - pkcs11-help. Something fails in the authors names conversion I forked the github repository of Alon. pkcs11-helper is now available under the OpenSC organization. https://github.com/OpenSC/pkcs11-helper I have not tried to migrate: - OpenCT - OpenSC-Java Aren't these projects obsolete now? I tried to convert OpenCT. But I could not get the author correspondence. Some SVN revisions have no author and confuse svn2git. I will prepare github for you to use. Bye -- Dr. Ludovic Rousseau ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel
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We are still maintaining a version of OpenSC-Java. If you migrate the repo to GITHUB I will care for it. Andreas Am 14.11.2012 21:20, schrieb Ludovic Rousseau: 2012/11/14 Ludovic Rousseau ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com mailto:ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com I could not migrate: - pkcs11-help. Something fails in the authors names conversion I forked the github repository of Alon. pkcs11-helper is now available under the OpenSC organization. https://github.com/OpenSC/pkcs11-helper I have not tried to migrate: - OpenCT - OpenSC-Java Aren't these projects obsolete now? I tried to convert OpenCT. But I could not get the author correspondence. Some SVN revisions have no author and confuse svn2git. Bye -- Dr. Ludovic Rousseau ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel -- -CardContact Software System Consulting |.## ##.| Andreas Schwier |# #| Schülerweg 38 |# #| 32429 Minden, Germany |'## ##'| Phone +49 571 56149 -http://www.cardcontact.de http://www.tscons.de http://www.openscdp.org ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel
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2012/11/14 Andreas Schwier andreas.schw...@cardcontact.de We are still maintaining a version of OpenSC-Java. If you migrate the repo to GITHUB I will care for it. Now available at https://github.com/OpenSC/OpenSC-Java I pushed 3 branches: - master - pkcs11-0.2-branch - pkcs11-test-0.2-branch The latest commit in master is 4 years old. Bye -- Dr. Ludovic Rousseau ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel
[opensc-devel] state of the project?
Hi, I wonder what we can or should do to improve the state of the project. It seems to me: * the last release was 0.12.2, released on 17.07.2011, not enough progress to create a release since. * that is a maintenance release, the last major version was opensc 0.12.0 in 22-Dec-2010. * discussions about new server / some migration / some improvement etc. are similar old, no significant results yet While there have been some proposals, e.g. in the thread about the future of the server, there hasn't been any real discussion, no back and forth about the merrits of the different proposals, and no convergence on one option or decission by anyone. It seems to me the state of the project is defunct: while there are requests, proposals, options and offerings, we are not getting towards a decission or action it seems, as noone decides anything or gets people to agree or to do things. I haven't touched a smart card in over a year, so don't expect me to do anything - that wouldn't work. But if anyone is still concerned about the project, I think it is time you take action. Don't look for anyone else, it is you or noone. But many people offered help, if you want to drive the project forward. Regards, Andreas ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel
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Hello, Le 11/11/2012 16:28, Andreas Jellinghaus a écrit : I wonder what we can or should do to improve the state of the project. It seems to me: * the last release was 0.12.2, released on 17.07.2011, not enough progress to create a release since. * that is a maintenance release, the last major version was opensc 0.12.0 in 22-Dec-2010. We are preparing 0.13.0 release on the base of the master/staging branch of Github OpenSC/OpenSC. Now it's at rc1. The candidates have been relatively well tested with some cards. The nightly builds and release candidates are on the OpenSC file server and in CI service. My intention is to publish the next major release during the last two weeks of November. There are still few regression issues with MacOS and old cards. I guess it's a good occasion to migrate the project. What is the procedure to follow when publishing a new major release ? * discussions about new server / some migration / some improvement etc. are similar old, no significant results yet While there have been some proposals, e.g. in the thread about the future of the server, there hasn't been any real discussion, no back and forth about the merrits of the different proposals, and no convergence on one option or decission by anyone. It seems to me the state of the project is defunct: while there are requests, proposals, options and offerings, we are not getting towards a decission or action it seems, as noone decides anything or gets people to agree or to do things. I haven't touched a smart card in over a year, so don't expect me to do anything - that wouldn't work. But if anyone is still concerned about the project, I think it is time you take action. Don't look for anyone else, it is you or noone. But many people offered help, if you want to drive the project forward. I propose to start migration the week 19-25.11 . I'll have more free time: - sources: all sources will migrate to github; - CI: CI server is currently hosted by 'opensc.fr' ; - download: on the same platform can be hosted the file server; - TRAC (wiki?): it seems that Peter Stuge proposed to do something with Trac. Peter, if you are here, can you take this part, or at least explain how it could be done, please? If no suggestions, Trac can also be hosted by 'opensc.fr' . - mailling list: the same, if no other suggestions, I'm ready to install/migrate it to 'opensc.fr' platform. Would be nice if one of the experts explain what is the actions to follow for such migration. Regards, Andreas Kind wishes, Viktor. ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel
