Re: [opensuse-factory] Optimizing the package manager

2007-09-28 Thread Jonathan D. Arnold / Daemon Dancing
Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett wrote:
 On Friday 28 September 2007 04:35:22 Kevin Valko wrote:
 I'm really, really impressed with the improvements to package management
 for 10.3, and I think the vast majority of existing users will be as well. 
 I'm just wondering if we can cut down potential problems in the default
 install, without relying on pointing to a page in the wiki for
 de-cluttering the package manager after time ?
 
 Nice to see you like the improvements!
 
 We are already discussing how to vacuum the zypp database, and also the rpm 
 database fragmentation number found by Marcus are interesting.
 
 We will work on it and try to release an online update for 10.3, at least for 
 the zypp part. For rpm we will see.
 
 The biggest ? is about operation time. This cleanup also takes lot of time 
 and is cpu and IO intensive. The right moment to do it is after heavy 
 database writting, that is refresh. Cron job also was suggested as an idea. 
 But  consideer the cron job too random about when to do it, and also 
 problematic f it start working when you are using YaST or the applet is 
 checking for updates (it is safe, but you will get a lock message).
 Our current idea is to do it on refresh but using a time threshold. And 
 making 
 it configurable of course.
 
 More ideas are welcome.

You could just ask whenever the YaST package manage UI comes up. Run some metric
that checks the size and/or condition of the zypper database and if it is too
big, put up a dialog box that says The Package Database needs to be optimize.
Do it now? Warning - this could take some time to complete.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Dirty filesystem after Yast update of RC1 and halt + reboot.

2007-09-28 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Thursday 2007-09-27 at 09:27 +0200, Lukas Ocilka wrote:

 Carlos E. R. wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I told Yast to update all updatables. It downloaded over a gigabit, it took 
  the
  whole afternoon. It is a nuisance when it screeches over a network failure 
  and
  doesn't retry till I come by the computer and tell it to retry.
 
 Good point, YaST should either try to download automatically (after 60
 seconds or so) or should give the opportunity to
 [ Retry Automatically ].
 
 Anyway, this would need to be configurable:
 * Try automatically
 * Max tries (for not to end up in a loop)
 * Time wait

Another thing is that as it downloads one file, installs it, downloads 
another, installs it... if it stops midway the system remains in an 
undefined state: for instance, not RC1, not RC2. There might be 
inconsistencies, too. It would be better to download everything, then 
install everything.

 
 Please, file an Enhancement request.

Ok, will do.

[...]

Huh... er... how do I do that? I can't find a bugzilla option or button 
for that. Enter new bug, perhaps? Then what? Choose enhancement in the 
severity drop list?

Sorry, I have never done that, and the FAQ doesn't explain it.


  In the end, I told it to reboot, or perhaps halt; in any case, it halted. I
  booted again, and I saw the system running a long filesystem check because 
  the
  root partition had not been cleanly umounted.
  
  I thought this was a known bug with the RC1 DVD, but not with the installed 
  system.
 
 Yes, it was a bug in RC1 when rebooting from First Stage to Second Stage
 of the installation. Sometimes, there were two processes running under
 the /mnt path (/mnt == Installation chroot). These processes were:
 'ntpd' and 'dhcpcd'.

I remember that. But this was not the install system, but the already 
installed system.

 
 How exactly did you rebooted the system?

- From inside kde user session, choose halt or reboot. My intention was to 
select reboot, but maybe I miss-clicked and choose halt. In any case, the 
system halted. Then I powered up again, and saw the fsck messages.

Notice that after a large YOU update, like from RC1 to RC2, many libraries 
and programs have a different version on disk and in memory. Many things 
could fail.

 I'm not sure, but I have a feeling that in a minimal installation I saw
 something like:
 reboot: fuser: command not found
 
 And 'fuser' is a command that can list or even kill processes running
 depending on the directory that they have open. Please, write mote
 details, you can additionally inspect the end of YaST logs:
 /var/log/YaST2/y2log

But Yast was not running when I rebooted. The YOU session finished without 
saying anything, but I knew a reboot was in order, so I did. I don't 
think there will be anything in the Yast log, nor in any other log, as it 
will have been a problem with the rc or halt scripts: as the system is 
not cleanly umounted and flushed, the last entries in the logs, if any, 
will be in the syslog memory or kernel buffers and lost.

What I see in the /var/log/messages is this:

Sep 27 01:11:09 minas-morgul smartd[24826]: Device: /dev/hdd, SMART Usage 
Attribute: 195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered changed from 59 to 60
Sep 27 01:27:56 minas-morgul sudo:  cer : pam_authenticate: Conversation 
error ; TTY=pts/8 ; PWD=/home/cer ; USER=root ; 
COMMAND=/opt/kde3/bin/kdesu_stub -
Sep 27 01:27:58 minas-morgul gconfd (cer-4475): Received signal 15, shutting 
down cleanly
Sep 27 01:27:58 minas-morgul gconfd (cer-4475): Exiting
Sep 27 01:28:07 minas-morgul console-kit-daemon[2388]: GLib-CRITICAL: 
g_queue_push_head: assertion `queue != NULL' failed
Sep 27 01:28:08 minas-morgul shutdown[4628]: shutting down for system halt
Sep 27 01:28:09 minas-morgul init: Switching to runlevel: 0
Sep 27 01:28:11 minas-morgul ntpd[22031]: ntpd exiting on signal 15
Sep 27 01:28:11 minas-morgul smartd[24826]: smartd received signal 15: 
Terminated
Sep 27 01:28:12 minas-morgul smartd[24826]: smartd is exiting (exit status 0)
Sep 27 01:28:12 minas-morgul auditd[17825]: The audit daemon is exiting.
Sep 27 01:28:12 minas-morgul audispd[17830]: input read: EOF
Sep 27 01:28:13 minas-morgul sshd[21181]: Received signal 15; terminating.
Sep 27 01:28:13 minas-morgul syslog-ng[25437]: syslog-ng version 1.6.12 going 
down
Sep 27 01:30:55 minas-morgul syslog-ng[3132]: syslog-ng version 1.6.12 starting


Nothing there. The kernel log (verbosity=7) contains:


Sep 27 01:28:11 minas-morgul kernel: bootsplash: status on console 0 changed to 
on
Sep 27 01:28:12 minas-morgul kernel: audit(1190849291.979:471): audit_pid=0 
old=17825 by auid=1000
Sep 27 01:28:12 minas-morgul kernel: audit(1190849291.979:472): auid=1000 uid=0 
gid=0 pid=17830 comm=audispd sig=6
Sep 27 01:28:13 minas-morgul kernel: pnp: Device 00:0e disabled.
Sep 27 01:28:13 minas-morgul kernel: ACPI: PCI interrupt for device 
:00:1f.5 disabled
Sep 27 01:28:13 minas-morgul kernel: Kernel logging (proc) 

Re: [opensuse-factory] Thunderbird fails to load extra dictionaries in 10.3 RC2

2007-09-28 Thread Carlos E. R.
Carlos E. R. wrote:

(Previously I sent to the wrong list)

 Grant Croker wrote:
 
 Are you downloading it using firefox? Perhaps that is assuming the XPI
 is for it and not Thunderbird. I have the es-ES dictionary installed ok
 and I have just been able to repeat the install process:
 
 No I, i do it from Thund., who fires up firefox directed to this page you say:
 
 - goto https://addons.mozilla.org/es-ES/thunderbird/browse/type:3
 - right click on the green button then save-as
 
 then left click in install. It complains that it may be dangerous from 
 unknown
 sources, I tell go ahead.
 
 No good.
 
 (https://addons.mozilla.org/es-ES/thunderbird/downloads/file/11850/diccionario_de_espa_ntilde_ol_espa_ntilde_a-1.1-fx+zm+tb.xpi)
 - In thunderbird go to addons
 - click the install button then find the downloaded XPI, then open
 - once installed, restart and you should have the Spanish dictionary
 
 If this has to be done, it is a BUG.
 
 ¿Where is that addon button in Thunderbird, anyway? I can't find it under
 preferences or tools.

Joe Morris (NTM) told me where to find it (if it were a lion I'd be eaten
already), and it worked fine. But I wonder why Thunderbird failed to install it
automatically. Isn't it a bug?

-- 
Cheers,
  Carlos E. R.
  (from RC1)
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Re: [opensuse-factory] short downtime of download.opensuse.org

2007-09-28 Thread Marcus Rueckert
On 2007-09-28 14:57:41 +0200, Marcus Rueckert wrote:
 we will reboot the box in a few minutes.
 it should not be down for a long time.
 
 *knocks on wood*

Houston, back to normal, we have no problem.
Thanks for your patience and for flying with openSUSE.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Optimizing the package manager

2007-09-28 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 10:35:22PM -0400, Kevin Valko wrote:
 Saw this brilliant post from Marcus Meissner about speeding up the package 
 management stack (link:  http://marcusmeissner.livejournal.com/13428.html )
 
 I tried this myself, and saw a dramatic improvement.  I've used openSUSE 10.3 
 since Alpha 5 or so, and I guess all the refreshes of factory and KDE4 
 cluttered the cache files, because when I ran the steps above it pretty much 
 cut my file sizes in half and Yast package management once again ran as fast 
 as when I initially installed 10.3.
 
 I also posted it on suseforums.net for feedback, and it seems to be positive.
 
 I understand that factory refreshes place a non-standard load on the 
 package 
 manager, and that most users of 10.3 Final will not be placing as high a load 
 on the package manager, but if this addresses a flaw that is intrinsic to the 
 way zypper and rpm operate, is it worth maybe creating a standard script via 
 cron job that cleans the package manager on a regular basis (weekly, 
 monthly, whatever) ?

Just one side note.

My Laptop has 256MB only. A 512MB or 1GB machine would have
not that much time difference, just because the files are larger.

The machine is also from 2002, newer harddisk might be faster.

rpm --rebuilddb ... I guess running it once every 1000 package updates
is sufficient. THis is however difficult to measure ;)

Ciao, Marcus
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Dirty filesystem after Yast update of RC1 and halt + reboot.

2007-09-28 Thread nordi

Carlos E. R. wrote:
Another thing is that as it downloads one file, installs it, downloads 
another, installs it... if it stops midway the system remains in an 
undefined state: for instance, not RC1, not RC2. There might be 
inconsistencies, too. It would be better to download everything, then 
install everything.

Which does not work if you have a small disk (or partition, as in my case).


Please, file an Enhancement request.


Ok, will do.

[...]

Huh... er... how do I do that? I can't find a bugzilla option or button 
for that. Enter new bug, perhaps? Then what? Choose enhancement in the 
severity drop list?


We already have bugs #328870 and #328870. With enhancement request he 
meant you should set the severity of the bug to Enhancement.


Regards
nordi
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Optimizing the package manager

2007-09-28 Thread Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett
On Friday 28 September 2007 15:40:18 Jonathan D. Arnold / Daemon Dancing 
wrote:
 You could just ask whenever the YaST package manage UI comes up. Run some
 metric that checks the size and/or condition of the zypper database and if
 it is too big, put up a dialog box that says The Package Database needs
 to be optimize. Do it now? Warning - this could take some time to
 complete.

Actually, since 3.3.13, sqlite has support for this:

2007 February 13 (3.3.13)
* Add a fragmentation measurement in the output of sqlite3_analyzer.

So I guess we can use this metric and then we don't need to record the last 
vacuum.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Optimizing the package manager

2007-09-28 Thread Kevin Valko
 The biggest ? is about operation time. This cleanup also takes lot of
 time and is cpu and IO intensive. The right moment to do it is after heavy
 database writting, that is refresh. Cron job also was suggested as an idea.
 But  consideer the cron job too random about when to do it, and also
 problematic f it start working when you are using YaST or the applet is
 checking for updates (it is safe, but you will get a lock message). Our
 current idea is to do it on refresh but using a time threshold. And making
 it configurable of course.

 More ideas are welcome.


Is it safe to assume the cleanup intensity is dependent upon the level of 
fragmentation and time between cleanups?

Just a thought, but would it maybe make sense to add the cleanup process as a 
SuSEconfig function, to run after package installation?  Not that we should 
really strive to make SuSEconfig take even longer than it does already, but 
users are already conditioned to waiting for that process to run after Yast 
completes, they'd have a visual indication as to what is occurring, and if it 
runs regularly then would the cleanup procedure be quicker and less intense?

Power users could of course disable it or run it at the time of their 
choosing, but maybe as a default setting it may not be too much of a load.

Cheers,
KV
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Re: [opensuse-factory] short downtime of download.opensuse.org

2007-09-28 Thread Florin Samareanu
i knocked for you and 10 minutes later still not up :)

On Fri, 2007-09-28 at 14:57 +0200, Marcus Rueckert wrote:
 download.opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] short downtime of download.opensuse.org

2007-09-28 Thread Marcus Rueckert
hi,

we will reboot the box in a few minutes.
it should not be down for a long time.

*knocks on wood*

darix

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Optimizing the package manager

2007-09-28 Thread Kenneth Schneider
On Fri, 2007-09-28 at 18:01 +0200, Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett wrote:
 On Friday 28 September 2007 15:40:18 Jonathan D. Arnold / Daemon Dancing 
 wrote:
  You could just ask whenever the YaST package manage UI comes up. Run some
  metric that checks the size and/or condition of the zypper database and if
  it is too big, put up a dialog box that says The Package Database needs
  to be optimize. Do it now? Warning - this could take some time to
  complete.
 
 Actually, since 3.3.13, sqlite has support for this:
 
 2007 February 13 (3.3.13)
 * Add a fragmentation measurement in the output of sqlite3_analyzer.
 
 So I guess we can use this metric and then we don't need to record the last 
 vacuum.
 

I tried an Oreck vacuum on my database and it didn't help at all.

:-))

Ken

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Some 10.3 Bug Statistics

2007-09-28 Thread Michael Loeffler
Francis,
On Thursday 27 September 2007 23:36, Francis Giannaros wrote:
 Since the DVD9s are being sent off for shipping, I thought I'd
 interest myself again by taking a look at some Bugzilla statistics
 again. So why not share? :-)
isn't that worth an article on news.opensuse.org?
M

 Without further ado (and no double-checking)...

 There was a total of 6708 bugs reported; a massive 5308 of these were
 CLOSED/RESOLVED already (~80%). 258 of these were blockers, and 567 of
 them were critical.[0] 3138 are RESOLVED+FIXED.

 With 3258 bug reports (and the top three bug reporters), the
 non-Novell Community makes up 49% of all bug reports in openSUSE 10.3.

 918 different people reported those bugs! 423 of them reported 1 bug
 report; 128 of them reported 2. 773 of them reported 9 or less.

 The top 10 bug reporters are:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 350
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 180
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  177
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  165
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 149
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  148
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  124
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  117
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  116
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  95

 Please buy them an extra beer! Or if you really want to thank them,
 cider ;-). ahanke hasn't reported anything for over 4 months (where
 are you!).

 300 different people or teams had bugs assigned to them.

 The bug with the most duplicates[1] is Bug 240922[2], with 18. Beta 2
 had the most bugs filed against it,[3] taking 873 of the total.

 100% of the votes say openSUSE 10.3 is an awesome release 8).

 That's all for now :-)

 [0]For a run-down on the severity of others, see: http://tinyurl.com/3dadqw
 [1] http://tinyurl.com/2wa46b
 [2] Enable array subscript is above array bounds gcc warnings?
 [3] http://tinyurl.com/2j3rwe

 Kind thoughts,

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Optimizing the package manager

2007-09-28 Thread M9.
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Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett schreef:
 On Friday 28 September 2007 04:35:22 Kevin Valko wrote:
 I'm really, really impressed with the improvements to package management
 for 10.3, and I think the vast majority of existing users will be as well.
 I'm just wondering if we can cut down potential problems in the default
 install, without relying on pointing to a page in the wiki for
 de-cluttering the package manager after time ?

 Nice to see you like the improvements!

 We are already discussing how to vacuum the zypp database, and also the rpm
 database fragmentation number found by Marcus are interesting.

 We will work on it and try to release an online update for 10.3, at least for
 the zypp part. For rpm we will see.

 The biggest ? is about operation time. This cleanup also takes lot of time
 and is cpu and IO intensive. The right moment to do it is after heavy
 database writting, that is refresh. Cron job also was suggested as an idea.
 But  consideer the cron job too random about when to do it, and also
 problematic f it start working when you are using YaST or the applet is
 checking for updates (it is safe, but you will get a lock message).
 Our current idea is to do it on refresh but using a time threshold. And making
 it configurable of course.

 More ideas are welcome.

 Cheers
 Duncan

It is just an idea, but it might be done in the background, when the
system is not heavily used, and paused when the sytem is used, or is
that not an option?
If there could be a limitation to the cpu use of this action, nobody
would be anoyed if it happened during normal use...?

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Thunderbird fails to load extra dictionaries in 10.3 RC2

2007-09-28 Thread Grant Croker
On 28/09/07 00:58, Carlos E. R. wrote:
 Hi,

 I only see the US language dictionary in Thunderbird. I tell it to download
 another, and it does: it downloads and says it installs the Spanish 
 dictionary,
 tells me to restart it, I do, but it doesn't appear. I redo several times, no 
 use.

 I tried to search for another rpm that could have it, but no.

 I tried also as root, but the result is the same.

   
Are you downloading it using firefox? Perhaps that is assuming the XPI
is for it and not Thunderbird. I have the es-ES dictionary installed ok
and I have just been able to repeat the install process:

- goto https://addons.mozilla.org/es-ES/thunderbird/browse/type:3
- right click on the green button then save-as
(https://addons.mozilla.org/es-ES/thunderbird/downloads/file/11850/diccionario_de_espa_ntilde_ol_espa_ntilde_a-1.1-fx+zm+tb.xpi)
- In thunderbird go to addons
- click the install button then find the downloaded XPI, then open
- once installed, restart and you should have the Spanish dictionary

saludos

grant

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[opensuse-factory] USB Live Images

2007-09-28 Thread Stephan Binner
Hello,

from http://en.opensuse.org/Meetings/Status_Meeting_2007-08-01/transcript

 coolo we're currently discussing if we provide USB live images too

What was the result? There seems to be interest (see news.o.o comments).

Bye,
   Steve
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Optimizing the package manager

2007-09-28 Thread Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett
On Friday 28 September 2007 04:35:22 Kevin Valko wrote:
 I'm really, really impressed with the improvements to package management
 for 10.3, and I think the vast majority of existing users will be as well. 
 I'm just wondering if we can cut down potential problems in the default
 install, without relying on pointing to a page in the wiki for
 de-cluttering the package manager after time ?

Nice to see you like the improvements!

We are already discussing how to vacuum the zypp database, and also the rpm 
database fragmentation number found by Marcus are interesting.

We will work on it and try to release an online update for 10.3, at least for 
the zypp part. For rpm we will see.

The biggest ? is about operation time. This cleanup also takes lot of time 
and is cpu and IO intensive. The right moment to do it is after heavy 
database writting, that is refresh. Cron job also was suggested as an idea. 
But  consideer the cron job too random about when to do it, and also 
problematic f it start working when you are using YaST or the applet is 
checking for updates (it is safe, but you will get a lock message).
Our current idea is to do it on refresh but using a time threshold. And making 
it configurable of course.

More ideas are welcome.

Cheers
Duncan
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Re: [opensuse-factory] USB Live Images

2007-09-28 Thread CyberOrg
On 9/28/07, Stephan Binner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,

 from http://en.opensuse.org/Meetings/Status_Meeting_2007-08-01/transcript

  coolo we're currently discussing if we provide USB live images too

 What was the result? There seems to be interest (see news.o.o comments).


Install kiwi-desc-livesystem

kiwi --prepare /usr/share/kiwi/image/kwliveCD-suse-10.3-gnome/kde
--root /tmp/kiwi-tmp
kiwi --type usb --create /tmp/kiwi-tmp -d /tmp/kiwi-image

Plugin a usb stick

kiwi --bootstick
/tmp/kiwi-image/initrd-usbboot-suse-10.3.i686-2.1.1.gz
--bootstick-system \
/tmp/kiwi-image/openSUSE-10.3-RC1.i686-1.3.0

Boot off the disk :)

Don't know what other images could be provided other than the live
descs we have.

Cheers

-J
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Optimizing the package manager

2007-09-28 Thread Carlos E. R.
M9. wrote:

 It is just an idea, but it might be done in the background, when the
 system is not heavily used, and paused when the sytem is used, or is
 that not an option?
 If there could be a limitation to the cpu use of this action, nobody
 would be anoyed if it happened during normal use...?

Things done in the background are difficult to see and stop; and killing a
database cleanup could be dangerous. Better do it upfront, asking.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] USB Live Images

2007-09-28 Thread CyberOrg
Please ignore the earlier message, I misread the question.

Apologies.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] kdar / backup software?

2007-09-28 Thread David Strozzi
If anyone needs a guinea pig for kdar, I'm game.

ps - please cc: my email address besides the list, since I've been
having trouble getting list postings.

-Dave

On 9/26/07, Dirk Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wednesday, 26. September 2007, Jonathan D. Arnold / Daemon Dancing wrote:

  2] Send you my changed source files and you can integrate the changes into
  any src rpm that might be around

 ah, please do a diff -ur between the changed source dir and one that you
 unpacked in parallel that is unmodified, and send me the output (private mail
 only please).

 Thanks,
 Dirk


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Re: [opensuse] Bad Sector remapping?

2007-09-28 Thread Erwin Lam
On Friday 28 September 2007, Greg Freemyer wrote:
 All,
 
 Having an issue I thought I knew how to address, but it is not
 working.  OpenSUSE 10.2 is booting into a maintenance mode due to a
 bad sector read on the hard disk.  I'm not worried about the data on
 the drive and so far it is just one bad sector.
 
 So I would like to cause the drive to map the sector to one of its
 spares, then do a fsck on the partiion, then some kind of installation
 verification step, or if truly necessary I can reinstall.
 
 I'm stuck on the first step.  I thought writing data to the sector
 would cause the drive to remap it, but that is not happening.
 
 dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/null skip=312518818 count=1
 
 Is very slow to return and triggers the bad sector error messages.
 
 dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda skip=312518818 count=1
 
 returns very fast and and reports success, but redoing the above read
 again still returns errors.
 
 Is there a different way to get that sector remapped?

Maybe you will find the link below useful.

http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/BadBlockHowTo.txt

Regards,
Erwin Lam

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Re: [opensuse] OOo 2.3 update

2007-09-28 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Thu, 2007-09-27 at 20:43 +0100, ianseeks wrote:
  On Thursday 27 Sep 2007, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
  * ianseeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-26-07 18:48]:
   I am also struggling with this update.  Its giving me a mix of 2.3.0 and
   2.0.4 and insists on installing a package with devel in the name when
   its from the STABLE repository.
   I get that templates templates dialog and the app then vanishes when
   finally selecting a file to open
 
  See my answer to Chris Arnold earlier in this thread.
 
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 thanks, i got it going eventually but it did install Java 1.4_2 as well which 
 seemed odd as I have 1.6.0 already installed - is that version a dependency 
 for OO?

I do not think OO base has this as a stated dependency. I am not sure
which module may have this as an explicit dependency. I am trying to
sort out what is in each package so I know where to look.

I tried to save a file as docbook and as MS XML, and both complained
that my JRE was not usable, so I should update. I have
java-1_4_2-sun-1.4.2.15-1.1 installed. Anyone else see this? This is on
a 10.0 system. Maybe OO expects a newer Java than is available for 10.0?
Details in the dialog box with the error were scant...

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Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3.0 - Where oh where has my icon gone?

2007-09-28 Thread Daniel Feiglin
Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
 On 09/28/2007 07:52 AM, Daniel Feiglin wrote:
   
 Hello Folks!

 After following the thread on OpenOffice 2.3.0, I tried the install
 (upgrade of 2.2.x, o/s version10.2). It went fine and everything works
 ... except that all of the menu icons have disappeared and all you see
 is text in their place.

 Does anyone have any idea of what's gone awry?

 Daniel
   
 
 Did you install the icon-themes package?

   
Yes. I installed everything by picking the rpm's as per the previous
thread. (Yast or rpm -qa | grep Office also shows it as installed.)

In fact I did just that to install the previous version, 2.2 - without
any problems.

I'm going to try something drastic soon - log out, restart X c.

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Re: [opensuse] Custom netboot image

2007-09-28 Thread CyberOrg
On 9/28/07, Jan Engelhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 changed data, and continues like a normal system. Contrary to
 implementations like DXS or KIWI (which I have not tried though),
 this uses a suse initrd and _not_ a distro-independent custom
 solution, because such often are not 100% nice ;-)

 I need to see how the remote system has the stuff to be mounted via NFS
 set up.

KIWI itself is distro independent, it can create initrd from a host
system and use packages of that distro if it supports smart package
manager. Just nobody seem to have yet tried it on other distro ;)

Cheers

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Re: [opensuse] Custom netboot image

2007-09-28 Thread Jan Engelhardt

On Sep 27 2007 11:50, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
 
 That sure is awesome( 8 MB) we would love your contribution in
 trimming down our image which is currently 160MB squashfs. Although it
 could be reduced, we are trying to get everything working well first,
 reducing the size is not very high on our priorities.
 
 -rw-r--r--  1 root root 3020209 Sep  8 21:06 
 initrd-2.6.22.3-ccj53_lh-default.cpio.gz
 -rw-r--r--  1 root root 1612192 Aug 29 19:47 vmlinuz-2.6.22.3-ccj53-default
 
 Nothing special really. Just tweak mkinitrd so much that it
 sets up an aufs, which is really just a few kilobytes extra
 compared to the regular initrds mkinitrd produces.

So, these files boot the system and result in mounting the rest via NFS?

As per http://jengelh.hopto.org/f/opensuse-netboot.diff, it mounts
the path (hardcoded - not so good - /daten/tftpboot/linux) from the
NFS server (advertised by dhcpd - good) and combines it with a zeroed
local partition LABEL=tmp (if available) or with tmpfs, to store
changed data, and continues like a normal system. Contrary to
implementations like DXS or KIWI (which I have not tried though),
this uses a suse initrd and _not_ a distro-independent custom
solution, because such often are not 100% nice ;-)

I need to see how the remote system has the stuff to be mounted via NFS
set up.
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Re: [opensuse] help with DD

2007-09-28 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Friday 28 September 2007 03:08, Carlos E. R. wrote:
 Randall R Schulz wrote:
  Dd is just a fancy copy program. It does not format the data it
  transfers.

 Actually, it does:

 ] DD(1) User Commands DD(1)
 ]
 ]
 ] NAME
 ]   dd - convert and copy a file

 ^^^

Sort of, but it cannot do octal, decimal or hex conversion nor can it
perform these non-existent conversions on multibyte items such as 16- or
32-bit quantities. The only two-byte operation it has is byte swapping.

To wit:

  conv=CONVS  convert the file as per the comma separated symbol list

...

  ascii from EBCDIC to ASCII
  ebcdicfrom ASCII to EBCDIC
  ibm   from ASCII to alternate EBCDIC
  block pad newline-terminated records with spaces to cbs-size
  unblock   replace trailing spaces in cbs-size records with newline
  lcase change upper case to lower case
  nocreat   do not create the output file
  excl  fail if the output file already exists
  notrunc   do not truncate the output file
  ucase change lower case to upper case
  swab  swap every pair of input bytes
  noerror   continue after read errors
  sync  pad every input block with NULs to ibs-size; when used
  with block or unblock, pad with spaces rather than NULs
  fdatasync physically write output file data before finishing
  fsync likewise, but also write metadata



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Re: [opensuse] cups and Windows

2007-09-28 Thread Jan Engelhardt

On Sep 27 2007 21:45, Ron Eggler wrote:
On Wednesday 26 September 2007 10:12:34 pm Jan Engelhardt wrote:
 On Sep 26 2007 18:48, Ron Eggler wrote:
  If you use IPP printing from Windows, you need to use Publish Printer
  in the CUPS webfrontend.
 
  If you use SMB printing from Windows, you can use samba's authentication
  controls (i.e. authenticated or guest mode) and all is well.
 
 I use IPP, how do i use Publish Printer? - I don't see a link that's
  called like that.

 Publish Printer is a button in the CUPS web interface.

I'm either blind or
my cups has following link on tthe homepage (192.168.0.2:631):
ESP|Administration|Classes|Help|Jobs|Printers|Software
and when i click on printers (where i assume it to be) i get my 
printer: Deskjet_D4200 and following link buttons:
Print Test Page|Stop Printer|Reject Jobs|Modify Printer|Configure Printer|
Delete Printer|Set As Default
and
Add Printer
So I'm really not sure what you see. Am I looking at the wrong page or 
something? :o

Hm, I have cups 1.2.11, which is a bit newer than the one from 10.2
(1.2.7)...

 Two or more ways:
  - rasterization(Windows) - relay(CUPS) - printed page
  - postscriptize(Windows) - rasterize(CUPS) - printed page
 (- postscriptize(Windows) - relay(CUPS) - rasterization(printer) - printed
 page)

 The 3rd one does not always work, due to crappy printers that just
 lock up because they feel like they do not have enough memory.

Huh? Sorry, you lost me here...not sure what you're talking about here :(

Different ways of how to chain the print job transformation.

 If you run with smb printing instead of ipp, it will do the right thing,
 since you can force smb that authentication is a must.
 As far as the linux world is considered, you always need to login
 to the system anyway before sending a print job, so no problem here.

A little earlier (a few weeks ago) I wanted to go the easy way via samba and
then i got recommended to forget about Samba and rather just share it by CUPS.
That's why I'm actually doing it the CUPS way and i'd really like to get it
working that way. So i really appreciate everybody's help to get my printer
shared and accessible to Windows clients.

Well if you do not care about authentication, either smb or ipp works.


 I tried:
 lppasswd -a 'Ron Eggler' and got this:

 lppasswd is not required in 10.2, it will use PAM.

but still i would like to not use it.

That's what I said. CUPS will use the system password databse, and
that's a good thing, is not it? Less passwords to remember.


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Re: [opensuse] Re: Zen v. vmware-Workstation to virtualize XP in 10.2

2007-09-28 Thread Jonathan Ervine
On Friday 28 September 2007 09:25:47 David C. Rankin wrote:
 Jonathan Ervine wrote:
  On Thursday 27 September 2007 19:01:26 Jonathan Arnold wrote:
  David C. Rankin wrote:
  Mates,
  I have a P4
  duo-core processor w/1Gig of RAM and plenty of harddrive space.
 Hmm. Crud.. i looks like I have 'vme' on both cores:
 flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr
 pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm
 pbe constant_tsc pni monitor ds_cpl est tm2 cid xtpr

 flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr
 pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm
 pbe constant_tsc pni monitor ds_cpl est tm2 cid xtpr

 Does anyone know if vme absolutely won't work? More reading to do...

Sorry - definitely not supporting hardware assisted virtualisation (i.e. 
capable of virtualising Windows operating systems):
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/linux-tip-how-to-tell-if-your-processor-supports-vt/

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Re: [opensuse] cups and Windows

2007-09-28 Thread Don Raboud
On Friday 28 September 2007 07:32, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
 On Sep 27 2007 21:45, Ron Eggler wrote:
 On Wednesday 26 September 2007 10:12:34 pm Jan Engelhardt wrote:
  On Sep 26 2007 18:48, Ron Eggler wrote:
   If you use IPP printing from Windows, you need to use Publish
   Printer in the CUPS webfrontend.
 I'm either blind or
 my cups has following link on tthe homepage (192.168.0.2:631):
 ESP|Administration|Classes|Help|Jobs|Printers|Software
 and when i click on printers (where i assume it to be) i get my
 printer: Deskjet_D4200 and following link buttons:
 Print Test Page|Stop Printer|Reject Jobs|Modify Printer|Configure Printer|
 Delete Printer|Set As Default
 and
 Add Printer
 So I'm really not sure what you see. Am I looking at the wrong page or
 something? :o

 Hm, I have cups 1.2.11, which is a bit newer than the one from 10.2
 (1.2.7)...

I have 10.2, cups 1.2.7 and I have 
Home|Administration|Classes|Documentation/Help|Jobs|Printers

Under Printers all of my defined printers have a Publish Printer option.

As well, under Home, there is a button Manage Server and following that 
there is a checkbox option

Share published printers connected to this system


What version of SUSE are you using and what version of CUPS?
Which RPM packages do you have installed?

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Re: [opensuse] Upgrade from RC2 to final

2007-09-28 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Matt Standish [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I am installing a few new machines to be used in a conference and I
 would like to show off the latest version of Opensuse.  Will there be
 a way to upgrade from RC2 to the final release?

The following worked for me:

zypper sa ftp-distribution (once it's available)
zypper update -t package


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[opensuse] Upgrade from RC2 to final

2007-09-28 Thread Matt Standish
I am installing a few new machines to be used in a conference and I
would like to show off the latest version of Opensuse.  Will there be
a way to upgrade from RC2 to the final release?

Thanks!
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[opensuse] Way to limit directory size on SUSE 9.1?

2007-09-28 Thread Xn Nooby
I'm using SLES9 which is based on SUSE 9.1, and I was curious if there
was a way I could limit the growth of a directory.  I currently have a
separate /var partition in case it grows too big, and I was thinking
if I could just limit it's size, I could keep /var on the / partition.
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Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3.0 - Where oh where has my icon gone?

2007-09-28 Thread Daniel Feiglin
JP Rosevear wrote:
 On Fri, 2007-09-28 at 13:09 +0200, Daniel Feiglin wrote:
   
 Daniel Feiglin wrote:
 
 Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
   
   
 On 09/28/2007 07:52 AM, Daniel Feiglin wrote:
   
 
 
 Hello Folks!

 After following the thread on OpenOffice 2.3.0, I tried the install
 (upgrade of 2.2.x, o/s version10.2). It went fine and everything works
 ... except that all of the menu icons have disappeared and all you see
 is text in their place.

 Does anyone have any idea of what's gone awry?

 Daniel
   
 
   
   
 Did you install the icon-themes package?

   
 
 
 Yes. I installed everything by picking the rpm's as per the previous
 thread. (Yast or rpm -qa | grep Office also shows it as installed.)

 In fact I did just that to install the previous version, 2.2 - without
 any problems.

 I'm going to try something drastic soon - log out, restart X c.

 Sometimes a reset helps ...
   
   
 It didn't help. The problem remains.
 

 Could be a problem not related to running SuSEconfig after install if
 you used smart or a tool that doesn't do that.

 -JP
   
Nope. I installed using Yast Software Management. It always runs SuSEconfig.

And by the way, a full reboot didn't help.

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Re: [opensuse] MailMerge from database to envelope.

2007-09-28 Thread Teruel de Campo MD
 russbucket wrote:
  I have SUSE10.2, OpenOffice 2.3.0.1.2, Mysql 5.0.26.12. Today I decided to 
  try 
  mail merge from the mysql database. I followed the steps from using mail 
  merge in the documentation. Everything works fine except when I go to print 
  and select NO when it asks if I want to print a form letter, it does  not 
  give me the database screen to select who I want on the envelopes. If I say 
  print I get an envelope with the form fields in the addressee area. If I 
  select yes it shows the database and I can select unique people to address 
  the envelopes for but it also inserts a blank document page. 
  
  How do I just print envelopes using my database to select who I print them 
  for??
  
  I must be missing something. When I put my cursor over the field (ie First 
  Name) it shows the link to the database correctly.
  
  Any hints would be appreciated. 
 
 
 I you just want print envelopes and the envelope is the first thing in
 the document, just select page 1 for printing when you get to the print
 dialog.
 

I use envelope printing a lot. What I did is to create a couple of
templates for the two size envelopes I use. I made a logo with draw with
my return address, I adjusted the page size and wrote the field to be
fill with mail merge, create also a couple of frames to add pictures or
attn: and setup the printing features for my printer like format size,
feeding tray, no duplex, paper: envelope etc. Then save it as template. 

Now I want to print an envelope and just look at templates click and
done. 

If you want to go in that direction I can help you and even send you one
of my templates. I do not know if I can attach a template to a message
here if not I can e-mail. 

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Re: [opensuse] Howto prevent mail from Base64 encoding

2007-09-28 Thread Jacob (=Jouk) Jansen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 28-SEP-2007 14:22:01.42
The Friday 2007-09-28 at 13:28 +0200, Jacob (=Jouk) Jansen wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 when I give the command (on Opensuse 10.2)
   mail -s subj [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ascii.txt
 the E-mail is send with the file ascii.txt Base64 encoded. How can I switch
 that off, so that the text file appears as plain text in the body of the
 E-mail?

man mail.

   String Options
...
   encoding

  The default MIME encoding to use in outgoing text messages 
  and message parts.  Valid values are 8bit or 
  quoted-printable.  The default is 8bit.  In case the mail 
  transfer system is not ESMTP compliant, quoted-printable 
  should be used instead.  If there is no need to encode a 
  message, 7bit transfer mode is used, without regard to the 
  value of this variable. Binary data is always encoded in 
  base64 mode.

Good idea, but  mail probably assumes that the ascii file is binary
data. So it did not help.

  Jouk
  


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Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3.0 - Where oh where has my icon gone?

2007-09-28 Thread JP Rosevear

On Fri, 2007-09-28 at 13:09 +0200, Daniel Feiglin wrote:
 Daniel Feiglin wrote:
  Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:

  On 09/28/2007 07:52 AM, Daniel Feiglin wrote:

  
  Hello Folks!
 
  After following the thread on OpenOffice 2.3.0, I tried the install
  (upgrade of 2.2.x, o/s version10.2). It went fine and everything works
  ... except that all of the menu icons have disappeared and all you see
  is text in their place.
 
  Does anyone have any idea of what's gone awry?
 
  Daniel

  

  Did you install the icon-themes package?
 

  
  Yes. I installed everything by picking the rpm's as per the previous
  thread. (Yast or rpm -qa | grep Office also shows it as installed.)
 
  In fact I did just that to install the previous version, 2.2 - without
  any problems.
 
  I'm going to try something drastic soon - log out, restart X c.
 
  Sometimes a reset helps ...

 It didn't help. The problem remains.

Could be a problem not related to running SuSEconfig after install if
you used smart or a tool that doesn't do that.

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[opensuse] Howto prevent mail from Base64 encoding

2007-09-28 Thread Jacob (=Jouk) Jansen
Hi all,

when I give the command (on Opensuse 10.2)
  mail -s subj [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ascii.txt
the E-mail is send with the file ascii.txt Base64 encoded. How can I switch
that off, so that the text file appears as plain text in the body of the
E-mail?

   Jouk


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Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-factory] Thunderbird fails to load extra dictionaries in 10.3 RC2

2007-09-28 Thread Carlos E. R.
Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
 On 09/28/2007 05:49 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
 ¿Where is that addon button in Thunderbird, anyway? I can't find it under
 preferences or tools.
 Tools, Add-ons.  Second entry under Address Book.
 

Thanks! It worked. I wonder how I didn't see it...

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Re: [opensuse] Howto prevent mail from Base64 encoding

2007-09-28 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Friday 2007-09-28 at 13:28 +0200, Jacob (=Jouk) Jansen wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 when I give the command (on Opensuse 10.2)
   mail -s subj [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ascii.txt
 the E-mail is send with the file ascii.txt Base64 encoded. How can I switch
 that off, so that the text file appears as plain text in the body of the
 E-mail?

man mail.

   String Options
...
   encoding

  The default MIME encoding to use in outgoing text messages 
  and message parts.  Valid values are 8bit or 
  quoted-printable.  The default is 8bit.  In case the mail 
  transfer system is not ESMTP compliant, quoted-printable 
  should be used instead.  If there is no need to encode a 
  message, 7bit transfer mode is used, without regard to the 
  value of this variable. Binary data is always encoded in 
  base64 mode.

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Re: [opensuse] Way to limit directory size on SUSE 9.1?

2007-09-28 Thread Sunny
On 9/28/07, Xn Nooby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm using SLES9 which is based on SUSE 9.1, and I was curious if there
 was a way I could limit the growth of a directory.  I currently have a
 separate /var partition in case it grows too big, and I was thinking
 if I could just limit it's size, I could keep /var on the / partition.

What I usually do is to create lvm volumes for such a partitions,
leaving some free space on the volume group, so if I need to, I can
easily extend it. It is much more flexible than creating partitions.

Cheers


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Re: [opensuse] help with DD

2007-09-28 Thread Carlos E. R.
Randall R Schulz wrote:
 
 Dd is just a fancy copy program. It does not format the data it 
 transfers.

Actually, it does:

] DD(1) User Commands DD(1)
]
]
] NAME
]   dd - convert and copy a file

^^^


;-)

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[opensuse] Re: [opensuse-factory] Thunderbird fails to load extra dictionaries in 10.3 RC2

2007-09-28 Thread Carlos E. R.
Grant Croker wrote:

 Are you downloading it using firefox? Perhaps that is assuming the XPI
 is for it and not Thunderbird. I have the es-ES dictionary installed ok
 and I have just been able to repeat the install process:

No I, i do it from Thund., who fires up firefox directed to this page you say:

 - goto https://addons.mozilla.org/es-ES/thunderbird/browse/type:3
 - right click on the green button then save-as

then left click in install. It complains that it may be dangerous from unknown
sources, I tell go ahead.

No good.

 (https://addons.mozilla.org/es-ES/thunderbird/downloads/file/11850/diccionario_de_espa_ntilde_ol_espa_ntilde_a-1.1-fx+zm+tb.xpi)
 - In thunderbird go to addons
 - click the install button then find the downloaded XPI, then open
 - once installed, restart and you should have the Spanish dictionary

If this has to be done, it is a BUG.

¿Where is that addon button in Thunderbird, anyway? I can't find it under
preferences or tools.


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Re: [opensuse] USR5610C

2007-09-28 Thread David C. Rankin
Fred A. Miller wrote:
 David C. Rankin wrote:
 
 [snip]
 
  For dial-out ppp, all I did was set up kinternet which is just KDE's
 front end to wvdial. The dial-out ppp for me didn't require any
 configuration other than setting the username, password, #ToDial. Surely
 you do, but check and make sure you have wvdial and kinternet installed.
  If it is a modem connection problem, it never hurts to have minicom
 installed so you can open up an konsole interface to the modem and
 check/set the default modem reset command string. For the USR modems the
 'ati5' command will show all stored modem profiles and allow you to dig
 further.

  The reason I like kinternet also, is you have the option to display the
 modem communication log right in front of you without having to 'tailf
 somelogfile'.
 
 Yes..convenient.
 
 (I always hate it when the other guys says gee, it was simple  ;-)
 
 HeheheI wish it was! I spent almost $90 getting that card here, so
 now I've got to get it to work! The easy way would have been to (maybe)
 bought a good new HP scanner with FAX. But, I haven't heard anyone here
 say anything about them. I've looked for a solution on the Net. for this
 cardproper init. string, and can't come up with anything. 'Getting a
 little pissy about now. :(
 
 Fred
 

Ah, just like everything else, just the matter of a little more time to
hunt down the final few pieces of the puzzle. Generally the init strings
are not going to give you trouble, but I always end up opening up a page
that has the hayes at commands on it and comparing it to my profile just
to make sure the atz  init string isn't doing something funny on me.

Get the fax.allow and fax.deny files set so you have non root access and
go from there.

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Re: [opensuse] Evolution email link problem

2007-09-28 Thread Carl Spitzer
On Thu, 2007-09-27 at 20:56 -0700, toshi esumi wrote:
  
 If you're using Gnome, I would check UtilitiesControl Center- 
 SystemPreferred Applications first.
 

I use it in both Gnome and KDE depending upon what else I am doing.
Ill check it in gnome first.

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Re: [opensuse] Re: Zen v. vmware-Workstation to virtualize XP in 10.2

2007-09-28 Thread David C. Rankin
Jonathan Ervine wrote:
 On Thursday 27 September 2007 19:01:26 Jonathan Arnold wrote:
 David C. Rankin wrote:
 Mates,
 I have a P4
 duo-core processor w/1Gig of RAM and plenty of harddrive space.
 Where can I get more info to see if Zen will work or whether I will
 have to try a closed source vmware-Workstation. The only apps I
 ever need in XP are quickbooks, and occasionally an old Micrografx
 Designer.
 
 You should also consider VMware Server. Yes, it's also closed source, 
 but is freely available/downloadable.
 
 Have you tried Wine for these apps? They don't seem particularly
 demanding and I would assume Wine would work. Much less taxing.
 
 I also agree that wine should be capable of running these applications. 
 Of course, Crossover Office from Codeweavers is available to provide a 
 shiny front end to wine to make using it much easier.
 
 Personally, I don't feel that 1gb of RAM is really enough to do
 virtual machines. Either your main machine or your virtual machine
 has to get squeezed too much.
 
 /nods - 1GB is _just about_ enough to get one VM running, and it feels 
 sluggish either in the VM, the host, or both :-)
 
 BTW, it is Xen not Zen -)

 There is also a new article on the wiki dealing with virtualization:

 http://news.opensuse.org/?p=371
 
 Also worth pointing out that Xen requires CPUs with the virtualisation 
 technology on board to be able to virtualise Windows XP (you could also 
 use LVM as well for that matter). You can check for this support in 
 your processors by looking for the flags in /proc/cpuinfo - for AMD 
 it's svm, for Intel it's vmx
 
 Regards,
 Jon

Hmm. Crud.. i looks like I have 'vme' on both cores:


[root Rankin-P35a:/home/david] # cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor   : 0
vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
cpu family  : 15
model   : 4
model name  : Mobile Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.33GHz
stepping: 1
cpu MHz : 1867.000
cache size  : 1024 KB
physical id : 0
siblings: 2
core id : 0
cpu cores   : 1
fdiv_bug: no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug: no
coma_bug: no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 5
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge
mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe
constant_tsc pni monitor ds_cpl est tm2 cid xtpr
bogomips: 6671.97
clflush size: 64

processor   : 1
vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
cpu family  : 15
model   : 4
model name  : Mobile Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.33GHz
stepping: 1
cpu MHz : 1867.000
cache size  : 1024 KB
physical id : 0
siblings: 2
core id : 0
cpu cores   : 1
fdiv_bug: no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug: no
coma_bug: no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 5
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge
mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe
constant_tsc pni monitor ds_cpl est tm2 cid xtpr
bogomips: 6669.25
clflush size: 64


Does anyone know if vme absolutely won't work? More reading to do...


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Re: [opensuse] Howto prevent mail from Base64 encoding

2007-09-28 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Friday 2007-09-28 at 16:52 +0200, Jacob (=Jouk) Jansen wrote:

 Good idea, but  mail probably assumes that the ascii file is binary
 data. So it did not help.

Then, tell it explicitly what it is. Those are options you can define, if 
I read the man page correctly.

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Re: [opensuse] Sending FAX

2007-09-28 Thread David C. Rankin
Fred A. Miller wrote:
 David C. Rankin wrote:
 Fred A. Miller wrote:
 'Learn something all time time with Linux. ;) I started to look for a
 decent GUI FAX application that will send FAXs via a FAX/Modem and am
 amazed that there's nothing to be had.unless it's a halafax client,
 which I haven't loaded yet. Any ideas?

 Thanks,

 Fred

 As mentioned by others kprinter will do it out of the box


 Here's the error when as a user from kprinter:
 
 Converting input files to PostScript
 
 
 Sending fax to 6255894 (Tammy)
 
 Sending to fax using: /usr/bin/faxspool -F 'fm' -f
 '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' -D 'Tammy'  '6255894'
 '/home/fm/work/temp/FAXtest.ps'
 faxq-helper: Neither fax.allow nor fax.deny exist,
 so only 'root' may use the fax service. Sorry.
 can't create new job directory, give up
 
 Now, if I'm root, here's the output:
 
 Converting input files to PostScript
 
 
 Sending fax to 6255894 (Tammy)
 
 Sending to fax using: /usr/bin/faxspool -F 'fm'  -D 'Tammy'  '6255894'
 '/home/fm/work/temp/FAXtest.ps'
 spooling to /tmp/F06.8547.38 (-F06)...
 spooling /home/fm/work/temp/FAXtest.ps...
 /home/fm/work/temp/FAXtest.ps is format: ps
 
 Putting Header lines on top of pages...
 
 Fax queued successfully. Will be sent at next ``faxrunq'' run.
 
 If I run faxrunq, here's the output:
 
 Linux-FM:/home/fm # faxrunq
 processing F02/JOB...
 /usr/sbin/sendfax -v 6255894 f1.g3
 Trying fax device '/dev/ttyS0'... OK.
 Dialing 6255894...
 /usr/sbin/sendfax: dial 6255894 failed (ERROR / NO CARRIER)
 command exited with status 10
 processing F05/JOB...
 /usr/sbin/sendfax -v 6255894 f1.g3
 Trying fax device '/dev/ttyS0'... OK.
 Dialing 6255894... Linux-FM:/home/fm #
 
 There's still a problem with the config IN the modem, but don't have a
 clue as to what the init. should be.
 
 Fred
 

No Carrier heh... You did remember to plug the phone line into the modem

Seriously, the fax.allow and fax.deny and just the files that contain
the allow/deny scheme for who get to use the fax. I think you can use
PrintManager to get the dialog for the kdeprintfax settings.

But, double check that the phone is pugged in...

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Re: [opensuse] MailMerge from database to envelope.

2007-09-28 Thread G T Smith
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russbucket wrote:
 I have SUSE10.2, OpenOffice 2.3.0.1.2, Mysql 5.0.26.12. Today I decided to 
 try 
 mail merge from the mysql database. I followed the steps from using mail 
 merge in the documentation. Everything works fine except when I go to print 
 and select NO when it asks if I want to print a form letter, it does  not 
 give me the database screen to select who I want on the envelopes. If I say 
 print I get an envelope with the form fields in the addressee area. If I 
 select yes it shows the database and I can select unique people to address 
 the envelopes for but it also inserts a blank document page. 
 
 How do I just print envelopes using my database to select who I print them 
 for??
 
 I must be missing something. When I put my cursor over the field (ie First 
 Name) it shows the link to the database correctly.
 
 Any hints would be appreciated. 


I you just want print envelopes and the envelope is the first thing in
the document, just select page 1 for printing when you get to the print
dialog.

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Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3.0 - Where oh where has my icon gone?

2007-09-28 Thread Joe Morris (NTM)
On 09/28/2007 10:14 PM, Daniel Feiglin wrote:

 Nope. I installed using Yast Software Management. It always runs SuSEconfig.

 And by the way, a full reboot didn't help.

   
It looks and works great here, though I use the x86_64 version.  Just to
check, I have installed :
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ rpm -qa | grep OpenOffice_org
OpenOffice_org-thesaurus-en-20060111-2.1
OpenOffice_org-calc-2.3.0.2-4.1
OpenOffice_org-math-2.3.0.2-4.1
OpenOffice_org-impress-2.3.0.2-4.1
OpenOffice_org-templates-labels-letter-1.0-4.1
OpenOffice_org-Quickstarter-1.0-514
OpenOffice_org-kde-2.3.0.2-4.1
OpenOffice_org-templates-presentation-layouts-2.0.4-25.1
OpenOffice_org-2.3.0.2-4.1
OpenOffice_org-openclipart-2-3.1
OpenOffice_org-writer-2.3.0.2-4.1
OpenOffice_org-draw-2.3.0.2-4.1
OpenOffice_org-templates-en-2.0.4-10
OpenOffice_org-hyphen-20070719-2.1
OpenOffice_org-pyuno-2.3.0.2-4.1
OpenOffice_org-filters-2.3.0.2-4.1
OpenOffice_org-templates-labels-a4-1.0-4.1
OpenOffice_org-icon-themes-2.3.0.1.2-5.1
OpenOffice_org-mailmerge-2.3.0.2-4.1
OpenOffice_org-base-2.3.0.2-4.1

I just upgraded to the latest in UNSTABLE to test a fix for a bug I
reported some time ago.  So nice to enjoy the fix.  2.3.0.1 worked fine
as well for me.  HTH.

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Re: [opensuse] Way to limit directory size on SUSE 9.1?

2007-09-28 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Friday 2007-09-28 at 11:28 -0400, Xn Nooby wrote:

 I'm using SLES9 which is based on SUSE 9.1, and I was curious if there
 was a way I could limit the growth of a directory.  I currently have a
 separate /var partition in case it grows too big, and I was thinking
 if I could just limit it's size, I could keep /var on the / partition.

There are quotas, but I'm unsure if the limit is per directory or per 
user. In any case, the system will not be happy if it can't write to /var 
because it is full or over quota.

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[opensuse] use headphones and line out independently on Intel 82801DB-ICH4

2007-09-28 Thread Kilian Rambach
Hi,
I want to mix some music and use therefore the headphone-out and the
line-out of my soundcard independently. By now, I can only change the
volume for both headphone-out and line-out together using master-volume.
The Volume-control for the Headphones in the mixer doesn't have any effect.
Does anyone know if that is possible with my soundcard?
Intel 82801DB-ICH4 Chipset Analog Devices AD1981B .

I'am using the modules snd_intel8x0, snd_ac97_bus, snd_ac97_codec

Thanks for any help
Kilian
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[opensuse] Booting is just not working...

2007-09-28 Thread Anders Norrbring
I have run into a very strange problem..
Hardware:
RioWorks HDAMA-G motherboard
2 x Opteron 246
4GB RAM

When running with a LSI Logic MegaRAID 320-1 *and* a Adaptec 2820SA RAID 
adapter, the system runs perfectly fine in all aspects.

When I remove the MegaRAID adapter, I can't even boot into Rescue mode from the 
10.2 DVD.

The DVD starts up, I select Rescue Mode, and it shows me that the kernel is 
loading. When it comes to 100%, the screen goes black and nothing more happens. 
I even let it be for 45 minutes, it never went on.

I put the MegaRAID back in, and the system runs fine again. This is spooky..

Oh, when I had the MegaRAID out, I booted with Acronis and PartED magic CDs, 
both came up just fine, but not any of my tested SUSE disks, I've tried 10.2, 
10.0, 9.3, SLSTD8, SLES9, SLES10 and United Linux 1.0. Neither works.

Any ideas please?

Anders.

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[opensuse] short downtime of download.opensuse.org

2007-09-28 Thread Marcus Rueckert
hi,

we will reboot the box in a few minutes.
it should not be down for a long time.

*knocks on wood*

darix

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Re: [opensuse] 10.3 RC1 installation confusion

2007-09-28 Thread Robert Lewis
On 9/24/07, Kenneth Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, 2007-09-24 at 13:35 -0700, Robert Lewis wrote:
  I took all the defaults after installing the DVD I d/l and cut.
 
  However, the majority of the installation seems to
  be coming off the net instead of the DVD which
  is painfully slow.  Over 4-hrs so far and not even
  close to finishing.
 
  I suspect I should have said NO to the early question
  about installation repositories.  Is this correct?

 This is precisely why it is taking a long time. One of the installation
 repositories is factory which has newer packages so they will download
 from there.

 
  If so why not reverse the logic so that the DVD is
  the first place to look for RPMS on install and
  get updates at the end of the installation.

 It does, it's just that factory has newer versions.

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However, it is my opinion that the human interface is not clear
and as such one can fall into an unexpected trap.
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[opensuse] Re: OpenOffice questions

2007-09-28 Thread Eberhard Roloff
Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:

 I believe it is just a file. openintro_suse.bmp in the program
 directory.  BTW, here it is green.  Do you mean you want the blue back? 
 If so replace the above file with the old one.  It is just a splash
 screen, only on the screen for a few seconds with 2.3 (nice job OO
 team).  But this is Linux, where you can have it your way if you prefer.
 
ok, I am seeing the blue splash screen on my opensuse 10.2, 32bit, OOorg
2.3 updated from the stable repository. The blue one wrongly claims to
be OOorg 2._1_, btw. . I also get the blue about-screen.

Now how can I get the green suse bitmaps back that are also there in the
program directory, but seemingly they are not used?

I mean other than copying the suse bitmaps to the names of the nld
bitmaps? I assume  I need to delete my OpenOffice_org-nld-2.3.0.1.2-2.1
rpm for this ?

thanks and regards
Eberhard

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Re: [opensuse] Stripping @domain from squirrelmail username.

2007-09-28 Thread Sandy Drobic
Darragh Ó Héiligh wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I have Squirrelmail now set up with Dovecot in Open SuSE 10.2.
 
 Squirremail however is sending the username in a very strange format.
 
 Say I submit darragh with password abcdefg.
 Squirrelmail seems to pass [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of just darragh.
 
 It is taking the domain from the URL.  Example, if externally, the
 address is something like http://dyndns.org/squirrelmail/ it will take
 dyndns.ocm as the domain and format my address as [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 If working from the localhost and I access squirrelmail from
 localhost/squirrelmail/ squirrelmail sees the domain as localhost so
 formats the username as [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Of course, when squirrelmail formats the username like this, I cant
 log in becauee the imap server is expecting the username darragh on
 it's own.
 
 Any ideas?  How do I get Squirrelmail to only send my username as
 darragh without the domain?
 
 Any help would be very appreciated because at this stage, I'm about to
 go absolutely crazy.

He he, sounds as if you have some autodetect-gone-wild feature enabled.
When you configured Squirrelmail (you did configure it, right?), what
value did you configure in the following option:
(adjust the path to your installation)

execute /srv/www/htdocs/squirrelmail/config/conf.pl

SquirrelMail Configuration : Read: config.php (1.4.0)
-
Main Menu --
1.  Organization Preferences
2.  Server Settings
3.  Folder Defaults
4.  General Options
5.  Themes
6.  Address Books
7.  Message of the Day (MOTD)
8.  Plugins
9.  Database
10. Languages

D.  Set pre-defined settings for specific IMAP servers

C   Turn color off
S   Save data
Q   Quit

Command  2

SquirrelMail Configuration : Read: config.php (1.4.0)
-
Server Settings

General
---
1.  Domain : japantest.homelinux.com
2.  Invert Time: false
3.  Sendmail or SMTP   : Sendmail

A.  Update IMAP Settings   : localhost:143 (cyrus)
B.  Change Sendmail Config : /usr/sbin/sendmail

R   Return to Main Menu
C   Turn color off
S   Save data
Q   Quit

Command  1
The domain name is the suffix at the end of all email addresses.  If
for example, your email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED], then your domain
would be example.com.

[japantest.homelinux.com]:



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Re: [opensuse] ftp permissions

2007-09-28 Thread primm


 I'v also setup an 'ftpadmin' group for this user.

  there be any permission issues if I do that? Will the permissions be
  preserved? Some need 777, others 666, others 600.

 The vsftpd I admin chowns incoming files (for virtual users) to UID
 'virtual', GID 'virtual'. Every 5 mins a script runs on the files to
 chown them to 'ftpadmin', so this user can move or delete them.
 The permissions are not changed.

Disaster.

I changed htdocs to ftpadmin:ftpadmin. I can now ftp perfectly. Alas, I can 
now see none of my pages via http.

Who owns what? Can't Apache serve from whoever owns htdocs?

Any advice?

Another weekend at work :-(
Cheers, Lynn.
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Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-factory] Thunderbird fails to load extra dictionaries in 10.3 RC2

2007-09-28 Thread Wolfgang Rosenauer
Carlos E. R. wrote:
 Grant Croker wrote:
 
 Are you downloading it using firefox? Perhaps that is assuming the XPI
 is for it and not Thunderbird. I have the es-ES dictionary installed ok
 and I have just been able to repeat the install process:
 
 No I, i do it from Thund., who fires up firefox directed to this page you say:
 
 - goto https://addons.mozilla.org/es-ES/thunderbird/browse/type:3
 - right click on the green button then save-as
 
 then left click in install. It complains that it may be dangerous from 
 unknown
 sources, I tell go ahead.
 
 No good.
 
 (https://addons.mozilla.org/es-ES/thunderbird/downloads/file/11850/diccionario_de_espa_ntilde_ol_espa_ntilde_a-1.1-fx+zm+tb.xpi)
 - In thunderbird go to addons
 - click the install button then find the downloaded XPI, then open
 - once installed, restart and you should have the Spanish dictionary
 
 If this has to be done, it is a BUG.
 
 ¿Where is that addon button in Thunderbird, anyway? I can't find it under
 preferences or tools.

You guys know that the SUSE package of Thunderbird should pull in all
installed myspell dictionaries by default to choose from?

Wolfgang
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[opensuse] apache won't serve webpages

2007-09-28 Thread primm
Hi

I changed permissions on the /srv/www/htdocs folder from root:root to 
ftpadmin:ftpadmin and made the user ftpadmin have the /htdocs folder as home 
folder. I did this so that I could ftp to the /htdocs folder and manage my 
website externally.

In doing so I can now ftp perfectly well to /htdocs but I cannot see any 
webpages via http.

Could anyone give me a working user:group setup so that I can both ftp 
to /htdocs AND be able to have apache serve webpages?

Out of the box 10.2

Cheers, Lynn.
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Re: [opensuse] ftp permissions

2007-09-28 Thread Theo v. Werkhoven
Fri, 28 Sep 2007, by [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 
 
  I'v also setup an 'ftpadmin' group for this user.
 
   there be any permission issues if I do that? Will the permissions be
   preserved? Some need 777, others 666, others 600.
 
  The vsftpd I admin chowns incoming files (for virtual users) to UID
  'virtual', GID 'virtual'. Every 5 mins a script runs on the files to
  chown them to 'ftpadmin', so this user can move or delete them.
  The permissions are not changed.
 
 Disaster.
 
 I changed htdocs to ftpadmin:ftpadmin. I can now ftp perfectly. Alas, I can 
 now see none of my pages via http.

The group owner can still be www, as usual.
But you also need to make sure that 'others' can read the files, so
the directory's permission has to be 755 minimum, and the files 644.

 Who owns what? Can't Apache serve from whoever owns htdocs?

Depends on the permission bits, the Apache process owner (wwwrun)
has to be able to read the files and, in case of e.g. PHP, to
execute.

HTH, HANW

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Re: [opensuse] ftp permissions

2007-09-28 Thread primm

 
  Disaster.
 
  I changed htdocs to ftpadmin:ftpadmin. I can now ftp perfectly. Alas, I
  can now see none of my pages via http.

 The group owner can still be www, as usual.
 But you also need to make sure that 'others' can read the files, so
 the directory's permission has to be 755 minimum, and the files 644.

  Who owns what? Can't Apache serve from whoever owns htdocs?

 Depends on the permission bits, the Apache process owner (wwwrun)
 has to be able to read the files and, in case of e.g. PHP, to
 execute.

Hi
Getting nowhere.

I created a user ftpadmin and a group ftpadmin. I made ftpadmin's home 
folder /srv/www/htdocs

everything under /htdocs is owned by ftpadmin:ftpadmin

I can now ftp remotely to the /htdocs folder. No problem

Having made these changes I can no longer see any web pages.

What do I need to do to be able to both ftp and see webpages? Who has to own 
what?

Cheers and thanks for your patience.
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Re: [opensuse] ftp permissions

2007-09-28 Thread Sloan
primm wrote:

 I created a user ftpadmin and a group ftpadmin. I made ftpadmin's home 
 folder /srv/www/htdocs

 everything under /htdocs is owned by ftpadmin:ftpadmin

 I can now ftp remotely to the /htdocs folder. No problem

 Having made these changes I can no longer see any web pages.

 What do I need to do to be able to both ftp and see webpages? Who has to own 
 what?
   

chgrp -R www /srv/www/htdocs
chmod -R g+rx /srv/www/htdocs

Joe
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[opensuse] Changing the default folder first opened by the GTK/Gnome file open dialog

2007-09-28 Thread Tero Pesonen
Hi!

I'm running KDE on 10.2, and would like to change the default folder
opened by the file open dialog that is used by GTK applications. Now it
always opens my home folder by default, and I'd like to have it open one
of my documents folders instead. 

I tried to google for this but found nothing. Nor do any of the .gnome*
folders in my home folder contain anything that would seem to affect this.

Thanks for any ideas!

Tero Pesonen

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Re: [opensuse] Installing 10.3 to a USB external drive?

2007-09-28 Thread Nick Zentena
On Thursday 27 September 2007 19:31, Rajko M. wrote:


 Set BIOS boot sequence CD, USB, HD.
 Install grub on USB drive.

 When USB is not present it will boot from CD or HD.
 When USB is present it will boot CD or USB, with grub option to boot
 Windows.

 If you put grub on HD with /boot directory on USB you can't boot without
 USB drive.


I'm not sure about the last part here. Are you saying to stick /boot on 
the 
internal? Or not to put grub on the USB?

Right now everything works with the USB on. Turn it off and I get a 
grub 
error 21.

Thanks
Nick
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Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-factory] Thunderbird fails to load extra dictionaries in 10.3 RC2

2007-09-28 Thread Carlos E. R.
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 You guys know that the SUSE package of Thunderbird should pull in all
 installed myspell dictionaries by default to choose from?

Yes, I know. I'm using the SUSE package of Thunderbird and it did not; 
that's why I reported in the factory list, it is RC2.

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Re: [opensuse] Re: OpenOffice questions

2007-09-28 Thread Teruel de Campo MD
On Fri, 2007-09-28 at 20:21 +0200, Eberhard Roloff wrote:
 Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
 
  I believe it is just a file. openintro_suse.bmp in the program
  directory.  BTW, here it is green.  Do you mean you want the blue back? 
  If so replace the above file with the old one.  It is just a splash
  screen, only on the screen for a few seconds with 2.3 (nice job OO
  team).  But this is Linux, where you can have it your way if you prefer.
  
 ok, I am seeing the blue splash screen on my opensuse 10.2, 32bit, OOorg
 2.3 updated from the stable repository. The blue one wrongly claims to
 be OOorg 2._1_, btw. . I also get the blue about-screen.
 
 Now how can I get the green suse bitmaps back that are also there in the
 program directory, but seemingly they are not used?
 
 I mean other than copying the suse bitmaps to the names of the nld
 bitmaps? I assume  I need to delete my OpenOffice_org-nld-2.3.0.1.2-2.1
 rpm for this ?
 

Eberhard,

In my case I accidentally also marked openoffice nld Novell Linux
Desktop and is the one that come with the blue splash. So remove the
package. I am sure you installed both like I did and that's why you have
both images. 

-=terry=-

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Re: [opensuse] OOo 2.3 update

2007-09-28 Thread ianseeks

 On Friday 28 Sep 2007, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
 * ianseeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-27-07 17:10]:

 much trimmed (including old sigs) 

   If i oocalc from the command line, it fails with floating point errors. 
  I'm going to abandon this on 10.1 and either revert back a release of
  download from OO.org site and install manually

 question or statement 

Now its a statement.  I deinstalled everything OO related and reinstalled and 
still the same error (all via YaST)  I uninstalled it all again and I've now 
installed the one from OO.org and its working ok apart from the sh*tty fonts 
on the menus etc.  This is all on 10.1 - it all installed perfectly on my 
10.2 system.  I can't wait to install 10.3 over the 10.1 
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[opensuse] [Fwd: [opensuse-project] openSUSE.org is looking for a Chief Linux Evangelist]

2007-09-28 Thread steve
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-  Original Message 
Subject: [opensuse-project] openSUSE.org is looking for a Chief Linux
Evangelist
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:33:14 +0200
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Hi all,

To strengthen the openSUSE project we're looking for an enthusiastic Chief
Evangelist to:
- - promote and spread the adoption of openSUSE
- - be a public face for the project on conferences and events
- - act as voice of the community back to Novell's leadership team
- - develop and nurture the openSUSE communities
- - pro actively drive openSUSE marketing

This is a global role and as such, you can be located anywhere in the world.

For detailed information see:
http://www.novell.com/job_search/servlet/eJobSearch?Detail=007086
We're looking forward to you!
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Re: [opensuse] Installing 10.3 to a USB external drive?

2007-09-28 Thread Rajko M.
On Friday 28 September 2007 03:50:24 pm Nick Zentena wrote:
 On Thursday 27 September 2007 19:31, Rajko M. wrote:
  Set BIOS boot sequence CD, USB, HD.
  Install grub on USB drive.
 
  When USB is not present it will boot from CD or HD.
  When USB is present it will boot CD or USB, with grub option to boot
  Windows.
 
  If you put grub on HD with /boot directory on USB you can't boot without
  USB drive.

   I'm not sure about the last part here. Are you saying to stick /boot on
 the internal? Or not to put grub on the USB?

   Right now everything works with the USB on. Turn it off and I get a grub
 error 21.


Yeah. 

I said to install all, including grub, on USB stick and change only BIOS boot 
sequence to include USB before HD. That way when you take USB out, computer 
will boot from hard disk as before. 

From (Konqueror) info:grub/Stage2 errors
21 : Selected disk does not exist

it seems that you have stage2 that is in /boot/grub on hard disk. Otherwise if 
there would be only grub stage1 (that goes in MBR) error. 
See (again in Konqueror) info:/grub/Stage1 errors. 

Would you mind to post output of:
  fdisk -l 
with and without USB stick.  

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[opensuse] delta 66

2007-09-28 Thread caleb storms
hey all,

well after much fuss and fight i got my delta 66 sound card to actually
get loaded, however now all i get is a grinding hissing noise, anyone
have any experience with the delta 66 or the envy24 controller?

caleb

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[opensuse] HP Printer PSC1315

2007-09-28 Thread Andrés Cosa
Hi,

I am trying to make my printer work wit opensuse 10.3. Seems to be
detected correctly but there is no PSC 1315 (or 1310 series) in the
drivers list. I checked the opensuse site and it says that it is
supported. The only similar one is PhotoSmart P1315, but I don't think
is the same (I tested it just in case and it would work).

I have the hplip-hpijs 2.7.7 package. Am I missing something?

Also when I try to detect the scanner with the yast utility, it stays in
the Detect USB and SCSI scanners for ever (well, I actually get tired
waiting cause I wouldn't expect to be that long).

Thanks in advance for any help.
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Re: [opensuse] HP Printer PSC1315

2007-09-28 Thread Joe Morris (NTM)
On 09/29/2007 10:03 AM, Andrés Cosa wrote:
 Hi,

 I am trying to make my printer work wit opensuse 10.3. Seems to be
 detected correctly but there is no PSC 1315 (or 1310 series) in the
 drivers list. I checked the opensuse site and it says that it is
 supported. The only similar one is PhotoSmart P1315, but I don't think
 is the same (I tested it just in case and it would work).

 I have the hplip-hpijs 2.7.7 package. Am I missing something?
   
Do you have hplip-2.7.7 installed?  This would be needed for the PSC. 
The hpijs is only a printer driver.
 Also when I try to detect the scanner with the yast utility, it stays in
 the Detect USB and SCSI scanners for ever (well, I actually get tired
 waiting cause I wouldn't expect to be that long).

 Thanks in advance for any help.
   
Try after installing hplip and starting hplip service.

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Re: [opensuse] HP Printer PSC1315

2007-09-28 Thread Billie Walsh

Andrés Cosa wrote:

Hi,

I am trying to make my printer work wit opensuse 10.3. Seems to be
detected correctly but there is no PSC 1315 (or 1310 series) in the
drivers list. I checked the opensuse site and it says that it is
supported. The only similar one is PhotoSmart P1315, but I don't think
is the same (I tested it just in case and it would work).

I have the hplip-hpijs 2.7.7 package. Am I missing something?

Also when I try to detect the scanner with the yast utility, it stays in
the Detect USB and SCSI scanners for ever (well, I actually get tired
waiting cause I wouldn't expect to be that long).

Thanks in advance for any help.


I hate to be negative. But [ always one of these in a sentence like this 
], I had a PSC1315 and I never could get it to work. The PSC2350 works 
like a charm right out of the box. If you can, upgrade is the best 
advice I can give you.


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Re: [opensuse] HP Printer PSC1315

2007-09-28 Thread Joe Morris (NTM)
On 09/29/2007 10:55 AM, Billie Walsh wrote:
 Andrés Cosa wrote:
 Hi,

 I am trying to make my printer work wit opensuse 10.3. Seems to be
 detected correctly but there is no PSC 1315 (or 1310 series) in the
 drivers list. I checked the opensuse site and it says that it is
 supported. The only similar one is PhotoSmart P1315, but I don't think
 is the same (I tested it just in case and it would work).
It is supported, but only by installing hplip (HP Linux Imaging and
Printing).

 I have the hplip-hpijs 2.7.7 package. Am I missing something?

 Also when I try to detect the scanner with the yast utility, it stays in
 the Detect USB and SCSI scanners for ever (well, I actually get tired
 waiting cause I wouldn't expect to be that long).

 Thanks in advance for any help.

 I hate to be negative. But [ always one of these in a sentence like
 this ], I had a PSC1315 and I never could get it to work. The PSC2350
 works like a charm right out of the box. If you can, upgrade is the
 best advice I can give you.

According to
http://hplip.sourceforge.net/supported_devices/inkjet_aio.html that aio
printer has been supported by hplip since version .0.9.5.  2.7.7 should
not have any problem, but for support for that printer, hplip is necessary.

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Re: [opensuse] HP Printer PSC1315

2007-09-28 Thread Andrés Cosa
Indeed, printer works fine. I'll check the scanner and post a message.

Thanks!

Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
 On 09/29/2007 10:55 AM, Billie Walsh wrote:
   
 Andrés Cosa wrote:
 
 Hi,

 I am trying to make my printer work wit opensuse 10.3. Seems to be
 detected correctly but there is no PSC 1315 (or 1310 series) in the
 drivers list. I checked the opensuse site and it says that it is
 supported. The only similar one is PhotoSmart P1315, but I don't think
 is the same (I tested it just in case and it would work).
   
 It is supported, but only by installing hplip (HP Linux Imaging and
 Printing).
   
 I have the hplip-hpijs 2.7.7 package. Am I missing something?

 Also when I try to detect the scanner with the yast utility, it stays in
 the Detect USB and SCSI scanners for ever (well, I actually get tired
 waiting cause I wouldn't expect to be that long).

 Thanks in advance for any help.
   
 I hate to be negative. But [ always one of these in a sentence like
 this ], I had a PSC1315 and I never could get it to work. The PSC2350
 works like a charm right out of the box. If you can, upgrade is the
 best advice I can give you.

 
 According to
 http://hplip.sourceforge.net/supported_devices/inkjet_aio.html that aio
 printer has been supported by hplip since version .0.9.5.  2.7.7 should
 not have any problem, but for support for that printer, hplip is necessary.

   
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Re: [opensuse] Re: Zen v. vmware-Workstation to virtualize XP in 10.2

2007-09-28 Thread David C. Rankin
Jonathan Ervine wrote:
 On Friday 28 September 2007 09:25:47 David C. Rankin wrote:
 Jonathan Ervine wrote:
 On Thursday 27 September 2007 19:01:26 Jonathan Arnold wrote:
 David C. Rankin wrote:
 Mates,
 I have a P4
 duo-core processor w/1Gig of RAM and plenty of harddrive space.
 Hmm. Crud.. i looks like I have 'vme' on both cores:
 flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr
 pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm
 pbe constant_tsc pni monitor ds_cpl est tm2 cid xtpr

 flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr
 pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm
 pbe constant_tsc pni monitor ds_cpl est tm2 cid xtpr

 Does anyone know if vme absolutely won't work? More reading to do...
 
 Sorry - definitely not supporting hardware assisted virtualisation (i.e. 
 capable of virtualising Windows operating systems):
 http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/linux-tip-how-to-tell-if-your-processor-supports-vt/
 
 Jon

Jon,

Is that a prohibition on being able to do it at all? Or, is that a
performance issue in that you won't be offloading the vt work to the
newer vt processor extensions?


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[opensuse] Dell Notebook

2007-09-28 Thread Richard Creighton
I have a friend that has a Dell notebook that is a Windows holdout. 
However, he keeps seeing my setup at home and listening to me tout SuSE
and he sent me a question recently that I simply can't answer.   Will it
work on his machine?   This is the information he sent me:

 
The info on this machine is:  Dell Inspiron 1521 - AMD Turion X2 1.6 Ghz
processor, 2 Gb RAM, 160 Gb HD, Sigma Tel high def audio codec, ATI
Radeon X1270 video, Broadcomm wireless 802.11b/g.  The SUSE 10.2 Live
dvd had everything working except the sound and the wireless.  I was
wondering if anyone in the SUSE forums had this configuration and had
everything working under 10.2?


Any information about how well 10.2 in particular performs on the above
hardware ESPECIALLY multimedia.  He listens to MP3's and watches *.avi
and DVDs and even plugs his stereo into the line out jack so he can
listen to his CD collections he has captured on disk.He currently
uses Windows and if 10.2 works well with his specific hardware, I
believe he will now join the ranks of EX Windows.   I would also be
interested in how 10.3 B3 and later work though from testing on my home
machines (not Dell), I am not sure it is quite ready for prime time.  
It has 'eaten' my drives, hidden my cursor, blanked my sound, and while
I'm willing to test and try to debug 10.3, I'm not sure it is quite
ready for someone so currently Windows centric but 'looking'.

Thanks in advance
Richard

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Re: [opensuse] apache won't serve webpages

2007-09-28 Thread David C. Rankin
primm wrote:
 Hi
 
 I changed permissions on the /srv/www/htdocs folder from root:root to 
 ftpadmin:ftpadmin and made the user ftpadmin have the /htdocs folder as home 
 folder. I did this so that I could ftp to the /htdocs folder and manage my 
 website externally.
 
 In doing so I can now ftp perfectly well to /htdocs but I cannot see any 
 webpages via http.
 
 Could anyone give me a working user:group setup so that I can both ftp 
 to /htdocs AND be able to have apache serve webpages?
 
 Out of the box 10.2
 
 Cheers, Lynn.

What about making wwwrun a member of ftpadmin group? Would this take
care of the /etc/apache2/uid.conf issue?


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Re: [opensuse] USR5610C

2007-09-28 Thread David C. Rankin
Fred A. Miller wrote:
 David C. Rankin wrote:
 Fred A. Miller wrote:
 David C. Rankin wrote:
 
 
 Ah, just like everything else, just the matter of a little more time to
 hunt down the final few pieces of the puzzle. Generally the init strings
 are not going to give you trouble, but I always end up opening up a page
 that has the hayes at commands on it and comparing it to my profile just
 to make sure the atz  init string isn't doing something funny on me.

 Get the fax.allow and fax.deny files set so you have non root access and
 go from there.
 
 I can dialout and connect either to an ISP or a FAX. The modem simply
 won't connecttimes out. I even changed S10 to 90, which sets the
 timeout to 90 seconds.still can't connect. Thus, I suspect an init.
 isn't set right.but I have no idea what needs to change.
 
 Fred
 

Not sure about the fax.allow and fax.deny, try good old google. For the
init string, stuff, here is the way my faxserver and dialin-server has
the modem configured

ati5
USRobotics Sportster 33600 Fax NVRAM Settings...

 Template Y0

   DIAL=TONE   B0  E1  F1  L0  M0  Q0  V1  X4
   BAUD=57600  PARITY=N  WORDLEN=8

   A3  B1  C1  D2  G0  H1  I0  K1  M4  N0
   P0  R2  S0  T5  U0  Y1

   S00=001  S02=043  S03=013  S04=010  S05=008  S06=002  S07=090
   S08=002  S09=006  S10=014  S11=055  S12=050  S13=000  S15=000
   S19=000  S21=010  S22=017  S23=019  S25=005  S27=000  S28=008
   S29=020  S30=000  S31=128  S32=002  S33=000  S34=000  S36=014
   S38=000

Strike a key when ready . . .


 Template Y1

   DIAL=TONE   B0  E1  F1  L2  M1  Q0  V1  X4
   BAUD=38400  PARITY=N  WORDLEN=8

   A3  B1  C1  D2  G0  H2  I2  K1  M4  N0
   P0  R1  S0  T5  U0  Y1

   S00=000  S02=043  S03=013  S04=010  S05=008  S06=002  S07=060
   S08=002  S09=006  S10=014  S11=070  S12=050  S13=000  S15=000
   S19=000  S21=010  S22=017  S23=019  S25=005  S27=000  S28=008
   S29=020  S30=000  S31=128  S32=002  S33=000  S34=000  S36=014
   S38=000

   STORED PHONE #0:
#1:
#2:
#3:

OK

Good Luck!

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Re: [opensuse] Sending FAX

2007-09-28 Thread David C. Rankin
Fred A. Miller wrote:

 No Carrier heh... You did remember to plug the phone line into the modem
 
 Cute..yes I did.
 
 As I posted in another post..I CAN dial into a local ISP and a FAX
 machine, but can't connect.
 
 Fred
 

Fred, this is obviously a negotiation problem. I too have experienced
this before and I have found myself wondering about it. Line quality can
do this. House wiring can do this. I have had it where I connect 100%
some days and 10% on others.

I don't know what else to tell you on this. If you are dialing and are
connecting, but not negotiating a final connection, I would check the
condition of the patch cable I'm using, make sure there aren't balls of
dust in the jack, and finally look for a neighbor that works for the
phone company and trade a couple of beers for him bringing all the cool
tools over to check. Also, if you want to try a reliable fax connection
use the number below It goes to an industrial size Sharp fax machine
and I use it when I need to eliminate possibilities as well

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[opensuse] Openoffice

2007-09-28 Thread Fred A. Miller
With the recent update, I'm not getting calls that users can't even
get into OO. I now have the same problem. 'Hope this gets fixed ASAP!!

Fred

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[opensuse] VMI enabled Kernel for 10.2? Performance issues with VMWare

2007-09-28 Thread Stefan Müller
Hi,

I am running SuSE 10.2 under VMWare. The processor load when ideling is
very high (20-30%). VMWare support said that I would need a VMI enabled
kernel.

Is there a rpm that can be downloaded somewhere that contains such a kernel?

All kind of other performance tips related to SuSE under VMWare (Fusion)
would be great as well.

Thanks and greetings

Stefen

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Re: [opensuse] Openoffice

2007-09-28 Thread David C. Rankin
Fred A. Miller wrote:
 With the recent update, I'm not getting calls that users can't even
 get into OO. I now have the same problem. 'Hope this gets fixed ASAP!!
 
 Fred
 

Fred with oo2.3 you have to install each component you want. (i.e.
writer, calc, etc...). Go to yast-software management and search
'openoffice' and all the pieces will show up.

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Re: [opensuse] Openoffice

2007-09-28 Thread Basil Chupin

Fred A. Miller wrote:

With the recent update, I'm not getting calls that users can't even
get into OO. I now have the same problem. 'Hope this gets fixed ASAP!!

Fred


Fred, Would you like to re-phrase what you just stated? :-) .

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Re: [opensuse] HP Printer PSC1315

2007-09-28 Thread Mike McMullin
On Fri, 2007-28-09 at 21:55 -0500, Billie Walsh wrote:
 Andrés Cosa wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I am trying to make my printer work wit opensuse 10.3. Seems to be
  detected correctly but there is no PSC 1315 (or 1310 series) in the
  drivers list. I checked the opensuse site and it says that it is
  supported. The only similar one is PhotoSmart P1315, but I don't think
  is the same (I tested it just in case and it would work).
  
  I have the hplip-hpijs 2.7.7 package. Am I missing something?
  
  Also when I try to detect the scanner with the yast utility, it stays in
  the Detect USB and SCSI scanners for ever (well, I actually get tired
  waiting cause I wouldn't expect to be that long).
  
  Thanks in advance for any help.
 
 I hate to be negative. But [ always one of these in a sentence like this 
 ], I had a PSC1315 and I never could get it to work. The PSC2350 works 
 like a charm right out of the box. If you can, upgrade is the best 
 advice I can give you.

  I set up a PSC 1315 for my brother no sweat under 10.2, in fact it set
itself up, the OP needs to make sure the latest hp-lip package is
installed, and use the hp=setup utility if 10.3 beta is not finding this
unit.

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[opensuse-packaging] 10.3 updates

2007-09-28 Thread Stephan Kulow
Hi!

I would like to mention it explicitly even though I expect 
everyone to figure it out:

Factory is no longer 10.3. So you have to remember to submit
a package into both 10.3 and Factory/STABLE if you do an update 
for 10.3

We will wait with changing Factory a bit though to not put 
too much traffic on the mirrors.

Greetings, Stephan
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Re: [opensuse-wiki] Featured Article

2007-09-28 Thread Guillaume Gardet
Hi,

I think that it should be an article which is interesting and you want
to show... On the french wiki, we just change it for the Compiz fusion
article. http://fr.opensuse.org

Guillaume.


Nikolay Derkach a écrit :
 Hi,

 I was always curious about what the column Featured Article is for?

 In the English wiki a note about Portal project resides there, but what is 
 assumed to be in this field for other language wikis?


 PS: just noticed that the legal notice at the bottom of 
 http://ru.opensuse.org 
 takes texts from MediaWiki:OsCommunityCopyright insted of 
 MediaWiki:OsNovellCopyright. Could you please fix it?

   
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Re: [opensuse-wiki] clicky - ki - yay when editing a page ?

2007-09-28 Thread Marcus Rueckert
On 2007-09-27 16:29:01 +0200, Susanne Oberhauser wrote:
 possibly an FAQ, do we have any plans to improve the login sequence
 when editing a page?
 
 
 When you are not logged in and you request to edit a page, the wiki
 detects you are not logged in and asks you to log in.
 
 Then you have to click to 'log in', actually do the log in (possibly
 type, for sure click), then click on 'return to page...' and then
 click on the edit link again.
 
   http://en.opensuse.org/index.php?title=sometitleaction=edit
 
 It seems doable to reduce that to just one additional click:
 
   
 http://developer.novell.com/wiki/index.php?title=GombleFrobbleNewaction=edit
 
 
 Can we possibly get the same in our wikis?

could developer services enlighten us why it works for them and not for
us?

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[opensuse-wiki] Featured Article

2007-09-28 Thread Nikolay Derkach
Hi,

I was always curious about what the column Featured Article is for?

In the English wiki a note about Portal project resides there, but what is 
assumed to be in this field for other language wikis?


PS: just noticed that the legal notice at the bottom of http://ru.opensuse.org 
takes texts from MediaWiki:OsCommunityCopyright insted of 
MediaWiki:OsNovellCopyright. Could you please fix it?

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Re: [opensuse-wiki] clicky - ki - yay when editing a page ?

2007-09-28 Thread Martin Lasarsch
On Thursday 27 September 2007 16:29:01 Susanne Oberhauser wrote:
 Hi,

 possibly an FAQ, do we have any plans to improve the login sequence
 when editing a page?


 When you are not logged in and you request to edit a page, the wiki
 detects you are not logged in and asks you to log in.

 Then you have to click to 'log in', actually do the log in (possibly
 type, for sure click), then click on 'return to page...' and then
 click on the edit link again.

   http://en.opensuse.org/index.php?title=sometitleaction=edit

 It seems doable to reduce that to just one additional click:

  
 http://developer.novell.com/wiki/index.php?title=GombleFrobbleNewaction=ed
it


 Can we possibly get the same in our wikis?

i will look into it, but i'm quite busy right now.

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Re: [opensuse-wiki] clicky - ki - yay when editing a page ?

2007-09-28 Thread Susanne Oberhauser
Hi Cory,

Marcus Rueckert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On 2007-09-27 16:29:01 +0200, Susanne Oberhauser wrote:
  possibly an FAQ, do we have any plans to improve the login sequence
  when editing a page?
  
  
  When you are not logged in and you request to edit a page, the wiki
  detects you are not logged in and asks you to log in.
  
  Then you have to click to 'log in', actually do the log in (possibly
  type, for sure click), then click on 'return to page...' and then
  click on the edit link again.
  
http://en.opensuse.org/index.php?title=sometitleaction=edit
  
  It seems doable to reduce that to just one additional click:
  

  http://developer.novell.com/wiki/index.php?title=GombleFrobbleNewaction=edit
  
  
  Can we possibly get the same in our wikis?
 
 could the forge wiki owners enlighten us why it works for them and
 not for us?

Do you have some insight for darix how to make the opensuse wiki as
comfy as the d.n.c wiki?


Not sure if opensuse-wiki@ is subscribers only or you are on it, so I
took Marcus darix Rueckert in Cc: directly.


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