Re: [opensuse] Update to Gimp 2.4
On 01/20/2008 02:29 PM, Joseph Loo wrote: I am worried about the dependencies. If I un-install the program it impacts sane, etc. I need to know what impacts on the other programs otherwise, i may need to re-install a series of programs. I installed the packman version of gimp24 2.4.3, which is the latest version from their web site, by Pascal Bleser, last night. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ rpm -q gimp24 gimp24-2.4.3-0.pm.1 It replaces the openSUSE version, which obsoletes gimp, and if you have it installed, gimp-devel. It also conflicts with the image pattern. You can safely uninstall the pattern (which marks for removal many image related packages). Just go to the Summary and keep all but gimp and gimp-devel (if installed). This works. BTW, I also needed to edit the startup icon, as it was pointing to gimp-2.2, but it is now gimp-2.4. It works great here, also on 10.3 x86_64 -- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 running openSUSE 10.3 x86_64 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Phenom and opensuse
Dear listers, Recently I got a black edition of Phenom 9600 with DFI's UT790FX-M2R. BIOS is Jan 3, beta. I tested several operating systems on it. (1) Fedora C. 8 Install went on rather smoothly, but the login window seemed to be messy. A lot of non fatal errors. So, I stopped here. (2) FreeBDS 7.0/6.3 The installer could boot if acpi is disabled. I did not go any further. (3) OpenSUSE 10.2 No problem. But, the benchmark showed the half speed of the CPU. On the window executing top, the cpu load level of all 4 cores showed 50%. So, the recent kernel 2.6.18 does not know Phenom. (4) OpenSUSE 10.3 I had got a lot of trouble in installing this. In the middle of installation, the system hanged many times. It took more thatn half day to complete the installation of minimal graphical system. Enven after installation, I had to reset PC many times until the text login propmt comes out. Another trouble is it takes a very long time to shutdown the system. Once it starts, things go well without X. Over clocking makes matter worse. Troubles of Phenom with linux are reported somewhere in the net. So, I plan to test opensuse 11.0 Alpha1, because it comes with newer kernel. But, it would be nice, if someone who tried it on 790(F)X sends quick report to the list. Thank you for your attention. yoriaki fujimori -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Always mount a USB drive with NTFS-3G?
Doctor Who wrote: On Jan 18, 2008 8:28 PM, Aaron Kulkis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carlos E. R. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2008-01-18 at 14:22 -0500, Doctor Who wrote: Thanks. I installed the package successfully, but I don't see how it helps to mount the drive with ntfs-3g. According to the homepage, I should see a box pop-up when I plug the drive in giving me the option to be able to write to the drive, but that doesn't happen here. I *do* have ntfs-3g installed and can write to the drive if I mount it manually from a console. Any ideas? Try creating an fstab line for it, using /dev/disk/by-id/... as the device node (it is independent of where it is plugged). Personally, I prefer using a volume label That way, it can identify that particular disk drive as needing 3G support, but if he decides to make, say an ext3 USB drive, it won't be a major annoyance. So is that something like?: LABEL=WD_Passport /media/WD_Passport ntfs-3g defaults 0 0 Does it matter what the /media mount point is named? just as long as you make sure that /media/WD_Passport exists, you're set. oh, and why do I use volume label, rather then the unique device ID? Because with a volume label, you can replace the device without having to change the fstab on every one of your computers. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Replacing an icon on the desktop
Stan Goodman wrote: I have on the desktop some Java programs which are displayed as generic icons. I have much better icons, or can make, much more intuitive icons for these. How must I go about replacing one for the other? What, if anything, must I do to convert Windows or OS/2 icons for use in the Llinux desktop? 1. copy the .ico file to your Linux machine 2. right click - properties 3. click on the icon image to select a new one. Here's a little trick -- always try right-clicking on things... you'll be amazed at how easy it is to find the controls to adjust a great many things on the desktop (including adding an removing things), the task bar, etc. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] A useful and fun .bashrc welcome screen
Rodney Baker wrote:
On Sunday 20 January 2008 17:01:41 David C. Rankin wrote:
Listmates,
After finding some interesting information in the .bashrc tips at
http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/tools/17142.html, I adapted the welcome
screen idea to capture useful system information on login. I have to admit,
the colors made it pretty cool. (I'm easily amused tonight)
[...]
Thanks for sharing this David. I gave it a try on my system at home but it
threw a syntax error on the following line...
echo -ne ${lightblue}Uptime for:${green} $HOSTNAME ${lightblue}is
${cyan};uptime | awk /'up/ {print $3,$4,$5,$6,$7,$8,$9,$10}'
}
Not being familiar with awk, I played around a bit but ended up just deleting
everything from the pipe onwards.
Very useful script though. Thanks again.
Regards,
Try this:
echo -ne ${lightblue}Uptime for:${green} $HOSTNAME ${lightblue}is\
${cyan};uptime | awk /'up/ {print $3,$4,$5,$6,$7,$8,$9,$10}'
}
The problem is that the original code spanned more than
one line, and wrapped around.
When you did your cut paste, the line AS DISPLAYED had
a hidden embedded carriage return, which was not in the
original code.
The way to fight that is, when posting code which goes on
for more than one line, put a \as the last character
on the line (which effectively turns the carriage
return into a space)
I noticed similar problems in the code that is on the
suse page referenced by David. The author looks to be
experienced enough to know about the \ trick, so it's
kind of annoying that he posted all the code in the
manner that he did -- it's not like this hasn't been
around since the 1970's.
Hope that helps.
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Re: [opensuse] Phenom and opensuse
Yoriaki FUJIMORI wrote: Dear listers, Recently I got a black edition of Phenom 9600 with DFI's UT790FX-M2R. BIOS is Jan 3, beta. I tested several operating systems on it. (1) Fedora C. 8 Install went on rather smoothly, but the login window seemed to be messy. A lot of non fatal errors. So, I stopped here. (2) FreeBDS 7.0/6.3 The installer could boot if acpi is disabled. I did not go any further. (3) OpenSUSE 10.2 No problem. But, the benchmark showed the half speed of the CPU. On the window executing top, the cpu load level of all 4 cores showed 50%. So, the recent kernel 2.6.18 does not know Phenom. (4) OpenSUSE 10.3 I had got a lot of trouble in installing this. In the middle of installation, the system hanged many times. It took more thatn half day to complete the installation of minimal graphical system. Enven after installation, I had to reset PC many times until the text login propmt comes out. Another trouble is it takes a very long time to shutdown the system. Once it starts, things go well without X. Over clocking makes matter worse. Well, DUH! Over-clocking is just asking for trouble. If the chip could run safely at a faster clock rate, the manufacturer would have detected the ability at the factory, and marked it with the higher clock. People are under the impression that the electronics components industry sets out to make capacitors or resistors of chips of precise ratings. Wrong. Chips of different speeds come off of the same line.. in fact, many times, off of the same wafer, even though every chip on that wafer is SUPPOSED to be identical. They make a design, and manufacture the design. Then they test them pile of components for whatever criteria (resistance, capacitance, clock speed, or whatever), and then sort them into groups, and label each group appropriately. If you want a faster CPU, go out and buy the chip that's been tested and certified at the speed you want to run at. Troubles of Phenom with linux are reported somewhere in the net. So, I plan to test opensuse 11.0 Alpha1, because it comes with newer kernel. But, it would be nice, if someone who tried it on 790(F)X sends quick report to the list. Thank you for your attention. yoriaki fujimori -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Grub Error 21
Original Message From: Philippe Landau [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat 19 Jan 2008 08:21:16 EST You are tenacious, Dave, great :-) Some may say tenacious, others would say that I am too stupid to know when to give up. ;) Still no joy with Lilo ? Kind regards Philippe Did give LiLo a shot, but the situation is even worse. On boot I get half a screen full of 01s and then total lockup, requiring a hardware reset. Thanks for trying to help, but I am sad to say Microsoft has won this box. Regards Dave signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [opensuse] Phenom and opensuse
Well, at work I have several Phenoms running Fedora 7, 64-bit as servers. No problems. Unfortunately my boss doesn't allows me to install openSUSE on those servers, but in general Linux works on Phenoms. -- -Alexey Eremenko Technologov -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: Phenom and opensuse
It seems I got a reply(?) to my previous post. His follow contained nothing informative, but seems to be misleading, so I decided to add my comments. My previous post refered to rather kernel version and BIOS. This is why I plan to test opensuse 11.0 Alpha1. FC8 seems to have newer kernel than opensuse10.3. The trouble of Phenom I mentioned occurs in my place even if it runs with the default clock. I did not say troubles started with OC. Troubles exist without OC. Meanwhile, in my lab, several Intel's quad6600s are running at 3.0GHz, forming reliable clusters with opensuse 10.2. yoriaki fujimori -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux (was: Grub Error 21
Dave Barton wrote: From: Philippe Landau [EMAIL PROTECTED] You are tenacious, Dave, great :-) Some may say tenacious, others would say that I am too stupid to know when to give up. ;) You wanted to but were kind enough to honour the efforts of list members :-) Still no joy with Lilo ? Did give LiLo a shot, but the situation is even worse. On boot I get half a screen full of 01s and then total lockup, requiring a hardware reset. Thanks for trying to help, but I am sad to say Microsoft has won this box. Did anyone ever attempt to make a systematic survey of reasons why Linux remains such a small player ? Of course corruption on a massive scale is involved in selling Windows to governments and corporations. But why is the percentage of surfers using Linux so small ? Is it mainly because of the games or are the shortcomings of Linux an important factor and which ones most ? Kind regards Philippe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] postfix master.cf question
Carlos Lorenzo Matés wrote: Well, the case is exactly this one. I have a mail to fax gateway, but the fax jobs are sent always with the same user (the sendfax). What i want is that the fax job is sent each time with the user who really send the mai Now i have this line in the master.cf fax unix - n n - 1 pipe flags= user=fax argv=/usr/bin/faxmail -d -n $(user) All the faxes seems to be sent by the user fax. I whant that each fax sent belongs to the user who really sent the fax. what i whould change is the user=fax to user=$(user), but i tried this and failed Have you checked the man pages for faxmail to see what options are available to set the user? -- Sandy List replies only please! Please address PMs to: news-reply2 (@) japantest (.) homelinux (.) com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Encrypted file system: disable mount on boot.
Carlos E. R. wrote: Use the noauto option where it is due: in '/etc/crypttab'. More info, man crypttab. Unfortunately, that does not work as expected. See bug #351061 [1] for more details and a workaround. Regards nordi [1] https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=351061 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Browser behavior
In other OSes here, When Firefox is unable to find the URL entered in the navigation field, it says so (Error 404). And it is possible to enter into the the field a URL less top domain, e.g. cnn, without com (at least for the com case, if not others, and FF would make the guess. That is not what happens in the browsers on my openSUSE v10.3. I have been trying to understand what actually does happen -- in both Firefox and Konqueror. Entering a defective URL in either browser brings the home page of my own web page, and I am unable to find why or how browsers do this. My Firefox home page is a blank page, not my website; I have cleared Browsing History and Cache, the only places I can think of where that URL is known to Firefox (which shouldn't matter anyway to Konqueror). The same thing happens if I enter into the Alt-F2 field a program name not known ti the system: Konqueror obliges with my website. Where have I neglected to remove the offending URL? I am assuming that straightening this out will also enable browsers to find com by themselves. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Graphical representation of directory
Or you can just use konqueror's one. Open konqueror and switch to file size browser by long clicking on 3rd view switcher icon (the one with image browser)... Heh, sry for my bad english :-) Carl Spitzer napsal(a): How do I get a graphical representation of the directorys of /home/user I have a fifteen gig partition and cant figure out what is taking up so much space. CWSIV -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] A useful and fun .bashrc welcome screen
On Sunday 20 January 2008 18:41:26 Aaron Kulkis wrote:
Rodney Baker wrote:
On Sunday 20 January 2008 17:01:41 David C. Rankin wrote:
Listmates,
After finding some interesting information in the .bashrc tips at
http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/tools/17142.html, I adapted the
welcome screen idea to capture useful system information on login. I
have to admit, the colors made it pretty cool. (I'm easily amused
tonight)
[...]
Thanks for sharing this David. I gave it a try on my system at home but
it threw a syntax error on the following line...
echo -ne ${lightblue}Uptime for:${green} $HOSTNAME ${lightblue}is
${cyan};uptime | awk /'up/ {print $3,$4,$5,$6,$7,$8,$9,$10}'
}
Not being familiar with awk, I played around a bit but ended up just
deleting everything from the pipe onwards.
Very useful script though. Thanks again.
Regards,
Try this:
echo -ne ${lightblue}Uptime for:${green} $HOSTNAME ${lightblue}is\
${cyan};uptime | awk /'up/ {print $3,$4,$5,$6,$7,$8,$9,$10}'
}
The problem is that the original code spanned more than
one line, and wrapped around.
Aaargh! Thanks, Aaron. Good catch. I never thought about word wrap. It just
happened that that was the only line in the script long enough to be
affected.
When you did your cut paste, the line AS DISPLAYED had
a hidden embedded carriage return, which was not in the
original code.
Yep - getting rid of the extra CR did the trick. Your suggestion also worked
of course (standard bash line splitting).
The way to fight that is, when posting code which goes on
for more than one line, put a \as the last character
on the line (which effectively turns the carriage
return into a space)
I noticed similar problems in the code that is on the
suse page referenced by David. The author looks to be
experienced enough to know about the \ trick, so it's
kind of annoying that he posted all the code in the
manner that he did -- it's not like this hasn't been
around since the 1970's.
Hope that helps.
Definitely. Thanks again.
Regards,
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Re: [opensuse] A useful and fun .bashrc welcome screen
On Sun, 2008-01-20 at 23:29 +1030, Rodney Baker wrote: On Sunday 20 January 2008 18:41:26 Aaron Kulkis wrote: The way to fight that is, when posting code which goes on for more than one line, put a \as the last character on the line (which effectively turns the carriage return into a space) Actually, it doesn't turn it into a space. It just deletes the newline. You can break the line in the middle of a word if you wish. Try it. Cheers, Dave -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Advanced postfix question: IP and reverse DNS
Dear Per and others! Thanks for your fast answer but I've never seen such a setup. How do I set smtpdomainX? All I've seen so far is one configuration for one server. How do I splitt it up? Is it inside main.cf? Hi Johannes you set up the transports in master.cf: smtp2 unix - - n - - smtp -o smtp_bind_address=1.2.3.2 smtp3 unix - - n - - smtp -o smtp_bind_address=1.2.3.3 smtp4 unix - - n - - smtp -o smtp_bind_address=1.2.3.4 smtp5 unix - - n - - smtp -o smtp_bind_address=1.2.3.5 smtp6 unix - - n - - smtp -o smtp_bind_address=1.2.3.6 Your transport table: domain smtp2: domain smtp3: domain smtp4: domain smtp5: domain smtp6: I haven't tested this, but I'm pretty certain it should work. Well, I tried but it doesn't work. The left hand argument in transport is for receipt not for sender. I want to choose the smtp by sender. In older versions there was a switch called sender_based_routing. It's abolished since postfix 2.3. I use postfix 2.4. Other mailing lists call sender_based_routung as a error in design, don't know why. The propsoed solutions are not suitable for me. Mostly they talk about setting up a whole postfix instance for each IP. That's little too much. And because I've been asked at other places: I can't have more than one rDNS record per IP. It's up to the hoster not up to me. I was pointed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] But in their archives I can find several threads about. They all talk about a second instance. One answered: having 50-60 postfix instances per machine scares me. I don't think this is a solution I can accept. That's true to me. Thanks! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux?
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:06:02 -, Philippe Landau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But why is the percentage of surfers using Linux so small ? Is it mainly because of the games or are the shortcomings of Linux an important factor and which ones most ? Kind regards Philippe I'd say games, yes, also hardware drivers too. But the main thing is probably people thinking that windows (mostly, though mac too of course) is how computers work. When I switched to Linux, the biggest thing that struck me was the amazement that here was something running the computer that wasn't windows, after that how nice it looked and that it wasn't as terrifyingly geeky as I had heard. There was a very steep learning curve at the start, when I was so frustrated about not knowing how to do the most basic things that I was so familiar with. It took a couple of months of determination to get over this, and since then I only pop over to the XP side to play games. I wonder if I hadn't had such a bad feeling about MS in general and arrival of Vista in particular, whether I would have stuck with it. I'm very glad I did. Cheers, David -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Replacing an icon on the desktop
Stan Goodman wrote: I have on the desktop some Java programs which are displayed as generic icons. I have much better icons, or can make, much more intuitive icons for these. How must I go about replacing one for the other? Open the properties for the icon. You'll see the icon on the first tab. Click on it, to choose another. What, if anything, must I do to convert Windows or OS/2 icons for use in the Llinux desktop? IIRC, Linux uses PNG format for icons. I don't know about others. So, you'll have to convert to PNG, if Linux doesn't support what you've got. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Advanced postfix question: IP and reverse DNS
Johannes Nohl wrote: Hi Johannes you set up the transports in master.cf: smtp2 unix - - n - - smtp -o smtp_bind_address=1.2.3.2 smtp3 unix - - n - - smtp -o smtp_bind_address=1.2.3.3 smtp4 unix - - n - - smtp -o smtp_bind_address=1.2.3.4 smtp5 unix - - n - - smtp -o smtp_bind_address=1.2.3.5 smtp6 unix - - n - - smtp -o smtp_bind_address=1.2.3.6 Your transport table: domain smtp2: domain smtp3: domain smtp4: domain smtp5: domain smtp6: I haven't tested this, but I'm pretty certain it should work. Well, I tried but it doesn't work. The left hand argument in transport is for receipt not for sender. I want to choose the smtp by sender. Hi Johannes, I think you can use the 'sender_dependent_relayhost_maps' setting: @domain1.com smtp1: @domain2.com smtp2: etc etc /Per Jessen, Zürich -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Advanced postfix question: IP and reverse DNS
Per Jessen wrote: I haven't tested this, but I'm pretty certain it should work. Well, I tried but it doesn't work. The left hand argument in transport is for receipt not for sender. I want to choose the smtp by sender. Hi Johannes, I think you can use the 'sender_dependent_relayhost_maps' setting: @domain1.com smtp1: @domain2.com smtp2: Yes, it should work. This feature was introduced with Postfix 2.3. Better check, if your version of Postfix provides this option: postconf mail_version must show a version 2.3 or higher. -- Sandy List replies only please! Please address PMs to: news-reply2 (@) japantest (.) homelinux (.) com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Replacing an icon on the desktop
On Sunday 20 January 2008 16:40:42 James Knott wrote: Stan Goodman wrote: I have on the desktop some Java programs which are displayed as generic icons. I have much better icons, or can make, much more intuitive icons for these. How must I go about replacing one for the other? Open the properties for the icon. You'll see the icon on the first tab. Click on it, to choose another. Someone else today said to MB2 (left-handed people don't talk about right click) the existing icon to do this. But that leads to the properties of the underlying file, not of the icon. In the past few days I have been looking for ways to edit icons, but haven't found anything. Where are the properties of the icon? What, if anything, must I do to convert Windows or OS/2 icons for use in the Llinux desktop? IIRC, Linux uses PNG format for icons. I don't know about others. So, you'll have to convert to PNG, if Linux doesn't support what you've got. No problem. Thank you. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux
Philippe Landau wrote: Dave Barton wrote: From: Philippe Landau [EMAIL PROTECTED] You are tenacious, Dave, great :-) Some may say tenacious, others would say that I am too stupid to know when to give up. ;) You wanted to but were kind enough to honour the efforts of list members :-) Still no joy with Lilo ? Did give LiLo a shot, but the situation is even worse. On boot I get half a screen full of 01s and then total lockup, requiring a hardware reset. Thanks for trying to help, but I am sad to say Microsoft has won this box. Did anyone ever attempt to make a systematic survey of reasons why Linux remains such a small player ? I guess you missed how both Sears and Wal-Mart are selling $200 computers in U.S., with Linux installed. Also, Dell, Lenovo and (IIRC) HP are now pushing Linux on some systems. Times are changing with Linux coming on strong and Vista not doing so well. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Browser behavior
Stan Goodman wrote: In other OSes here, When Firefox is unable to find the URL entered in the navigation field, it says so (Error 404). And it is possible to enter into the the field a URL less top domain, e.g. cnn, without com (at least for the com case, if not others, and FF would make the guess. That is not what happens in the browsers on my openSUSE v10.3. I have been trying to understand what actually does happen -- in both Firefox and Konqueror. Entering a defective URL in either browser brings the home page of my own web page, and I am unable to find why or how browsers do this. My Firefox home page is a blank page, not my website; I have cleared Browsing History and Cache, the only places I can think of where that URL is known to Firefox (which shouldn't matter anyway to Konqueror). The same thing happens if I enter into the Alt-F2 field a program name not known ti the system: Konqueror obliges with my website. Where have I neglected to remove the offending URL? I am assuming that straightening this out will also enable browsers to find com by themselves. I have never seen that behaviour. When I attempt to go to a bogus site, both Firefox and Konqueror give an error message. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Replacing an icon on the desktop
On Sunday 20 January 2008 07:16, Stan Goodman wrote: ... Someone else today said to MB2 (left-handed people don't talk about right click) the existing icon to do this. But that leads to the properties of the underlying file, not of the icon. In the past few days I have been looking for ways to edit icons, but haven't found anything. Where are the properties of the icon? The answer lies in my original response. Desktop icons are represented by text files whose names end in .desktop in each users ~/Desktop directory. In these files is the path name to the icon file. You can use that path name to find or open the icon file in order to produce a variant using one of the various image editing programs. What, if anything, must I do to convert Windows or OS/2 icons for use in the Llinux desktop? IIRC, Linux uses PNG format for icons. I don't know about others. So, you'll have to convert to PNG, if Linux doesn't support what you've got. Again, my response listed the acceptable types: PNG, JPEG, GIF, XPM, SVG and .ico. There may be even more, but these will work. Stan Goodman Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Browser behavior
On Sunday 20 January 2008 17:05:27 James Knott wrote: Stan Goodman wrote: In other OSes here, When Firefox is unable to find the URL entered in the navigation field, it says so (Error 404). And it is possible to enter into the the field a URL less top domain, e.g. cnn, without com (at least for the com case, if not others, and FF would make the guess. That is not what happens in the browsers on my openSUSE v10.3. I have been trying to understand what actually does happen -- in both Firefox and Konqueror. Entering a defective URL in either browser brings the home page of my own web page, and I am unable to find why or how browsers do this. My Firefox home page is a blank page, not my website; I have cleared Browsing History and Cache, the only places I can think of where that URL is known to Firefox (which shouldn't matter anyway to Konqueror). The same thing happens if I enter into the Alt-F2 field a program name not known ti the system: Konqueror obliges with my website. Where have I neglected to remove the offending URL? I am assuming that straightening this out will also enable browsers to find com by themselves. I have never seen that behaviour. When I attempt to go to a bogus site, both Firefox and Konqueror give an error message. I wish I could say the same thing. I was surprised when this developed when I installed v10.3 on clean partitions. It didn't happen in the previous installation (v10.2), and I hoped the reason was because of something foolish that I had done. I'm still hoping. I do find it curious that the same behavior exhibited by both Firefox and Konqueror -- two independent applications that, as far as I know, do not share any elements. If they do share e.g. a dll, I suppose that would finger the shared file. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Grub Error 21
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2008-01-18 at 09:48 +1100, Dave Barton wrote: I have just upgraded a PC for a colleague, who, after much badgering and encouragement, conceded to have a dual boot install of OpenSUSE 10.3 on a second drive. Installed XP Pro on hd0, no problem. Created a FAT32 partition on hd1 using 50% of the disk capacity, leaving remainder unallocated for Linux partitions. Booted to the 10.3 installation DVD and the install to hd1, including on-line updates, went perfectly, until the first reboot, where I get: GRUB Loading stage1.5 Grub loading, please wait... Error 21 At which point everything grinds to a standstill. 21 : Selected disk does not exist This error is returned if the device part of a device- or full file name refers to a disk or BIOS device that is not present or not recognized by the BIOS in the system. Sadly, grub errors are difficult to track and solve. No hand holding, no verbose logs... An idea: does your bios allows booting from the second hard disk? If it does, it might solve the situation. Just mark a partition as bootable in the second disk and install grub on that one. In this way, grub will not be attempting to install in one disk and boot another disk, which appears to be a situation it doesn't like. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHk3JTtTMYHG2NR9URAga3AJsHOCVBd4f2PdG2IflszIQBXQRk4wCdFWyk MN6KFqJe5Bpwcqa61I+LFjo= =ZZUQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Grub Error 21
On 19-Jan-08, Dave Barton wrote: OK, I believe I have tried just about every GRUB alternative option and come up blank every time. In desperation, I used fixmbr from the XP CD and deleted all partitions from the second drive. Started a totally clean 10.3 install and accepted the default options offered. This should be the easiest configuration for the installer to handle, but no, on first reboot I am back to Error 21 and my GRUB files now show: Error 21, I see. [...] --- /etc/grub.conf setup --stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 (hd0) (hd1,1) quit --- Configuration looks good. This looks like a BIOS problem: 21 : Selected disk does not exist This error is returned if the device part of a device- or full file name refers to a disk or BIOS device that is not present or not recognized by the BIOS in the system. Please check whether the BIOS is seeing the second hard drive. Also, sometimes you may need additional settings in the BIOS to make the hard drive accessible for booting. I doubt this is a problem with GRUB, but to make sure you may want to open a bug against GRUB at bugzilla.novell.com. In the past I have done numerous installs with Win on the first drive and Linux on the second and never had anything like this problem. Unfortunately, I don't have access to another machine with this configuration to check against. My real concern is that I was just about to set up one of my production boxes with this same configuration, but in view of this issue I must now seriously consider an alternative to openSUSE. Booting from the second hard drive sometimes triggers (BIOS) problems that booting from the first hard drive does not trigger. As Linux still is more likely to be installed on a second hard drive, it unfortunately sees more of these bugs. Windows usually does not see these problems at all, as most people have it on the first hard drive. Regards, -- Olaf Dabrunz (Olaf at dabrunz.com) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] SuSE 10.3 troubles on my GamePC laptop
About 2 months ago I replaced SuSE 9.3 with 10.3. Last Friday I turned on my laptop. To my dismay the screen was messed up... sort of divided into three areas with wrapped up boundaries. The pointer position in any of the 3 area was no more mapped to what actually was selected. Therefore by clicking randomly (apparently on selected icons) a lot of applications were opened up. I was desperate as I could not send any email. I could eventually start mozilla using the arrows but could not point at the address field. I was afraid it would be a video card problem. No store where they sell computers/electronic devices would take care of my laptop as I bought it from GamePC . I finally was put in contact with a guy who runs his own company which provides computers assistance. He came with a monitor and knoppix Linux (as I suggested). This allowed us to exclude any video card problem. Therefore X was messed up ... how come ? It worked fine up to the night before. I turned off the computer in the end of my working session. In short I had to reinstall SuSE 10.3 which fixed the problem. But the serious difficulty was to save three directories where I have all my recent developments. I thought through knoppix I could mount both the internal and external hard drive and make copies. Apparently knoppix mounts the peripherals in a read-only mode (???) so .. forget about it. Fortunately I have a web site on a remote server. So from the simple text- mode I could compress and ftp my directories to my web site from which I could recover them after reinstalling SuSE 10.3 As a consequence I fell behind my schedule. To prevent future emergencies I am thinking of getting another laptop/notebook. Since I have to use MS Office every now and then I would consider to run alternatively Windows and SuSE through WMware. Now I run MS Office through CrossOveR. Is WMware stable and reliable ? Thank you, Maura Maura Edelweiss M. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux
Richard wrote: I suspect that many might use it as I do, for all net and surfing time, some personal apps, eg gnucash. Still have to keep a copy of Win around as I coach swim teams and the software written to manage my team, keep times, run meets, manage financials, etc, all run only on Win. Have you tried running it under Wine? -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] SuSE 10.3 troubles on my GamePC laptop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Maura Edelweiss Monville wrote: | problem. But the serious difficulty was to save three | directories where I have all my recent developments. I | thought through knoppix I could mount both the | internal and external hard drive and make copies. | Apparently knoppix mounts the peripherals in a | read-only mode (???) so .. forget about it. you have to right click on the icon and choose mount for read write priv. on 5.1 anyway, I just used it last week. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHk4Mk1L48K811Km0RArE5AJ9E7SGYFdcsfKdaiqeQiVQQ1BZ1JQCgparU FirhJ/zjkdKEiwNIX5EtB48= =FbOK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Browser behavior
On Sunday 20 January 2008 09:56:27 am Stan Goodman wrote: On Sunday 20 January 2008 17:05:27 James Knott wrote: ... I have never seen that behaviour. When I attempt to go to a bogus site, both Firefox and Konqueror give an error message. ... I do find it curious that the same behavior exhibited by both Firefox and Konqueror -- two independent applications that, as far as I know, do not share any elements. If they do share e.g. a dll, I suppose that would finger the shared file. I have seen the other page instead of error, but that has nothing to do with browsers. The trick is that if DNS query should give error my provider redirects browser to their advertising page. The same happens if their DNS server has no answer (guess: it times out), I get the same. I was thinking about how they do that. Probably they use proxy that is replacing failed DNS query with adds. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Advanced postfix question: IP and reverse DNS
I think you can use the 'sender_dependent_relayhost_maps' setting: @domain1.com smtp1: @domain2.com smtp2: Hm, don't know. I'm not relaying I send directly to recipient. I tried and mail returned with following error: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Host or domain name not found. Name service error for name=smtp2 type=: Host found but no data record of requested type As far as I could read until now the sender_dependent_relayhost map expects a domain as well on the right hand side, or? (like netxthop in transport) E.g. smtp2:domainxy.com (it has to know to where to relay). I'm somehow lost. I can't imagine that a used options is deprecated and newer version don't substitute it... Yes, it should work. This feature was introduced with Postfix 2.3. Better check, if your version of Postfix provides this option: postconf mail_version must show a version 2.3 or higher. My version ist 2.4.5. Thanks Sandy Per, maybe you have a hint for me? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux (was: Grub Error 21
On Sun January 20 2008 3:06 am, Philippe Landau wrote: Dave Barton wrote: From: Philippe Landau [EMAIL PROTECTED] You are tenacious, Dave, great :-) Some may say tenacious, others would say that I am too stupid to know when to give up. ;) You wanted to but were kind enough to honour the efforts of list members :-) Still no joy with Lilo ? Did give LiLo a shot, but the situation is even worse. On boot I get half a screen full of 01s and then total lockup, requiring a hardware reset. Thanks for trying to help, but I am sad to say Microsoft has won this box. Did anyone ever attempt to make a systematic survey of reasons why Linux remains such a small player ? Of course corruption on a massive scale is involved in selling Windows to governments and corporations. But why is the percentage of surfers using Linux so small ? Is it mainly because of the games or are the shortcomings of Linux an important factor and which ones most ? Kind regards Philippe I suspect that many might use it as I do, for all net and surfing time, some personal apps, eg gnucash. Still have to keep a copy of Win around as I coach swim teams and the software written to manage my team, keep times, run meets, manage financials, etc, all run only on Win. Could call it a niche market and would be accurate, but too small a market I would think for a programmer to expect to get reimbursed for writing and maintaining a linux version or adapting from win to lin. My guess is that there are 100's, 1000's of similar stories of other apps that only run on win, too limited to entice a programmer and, eg, the number of swim coaches using lin is too small to force the swim program company to port the software to us, and no reason still why they should since users can still get and use win. Same goes for any number of other little apps, my new GPS enabled and scheduler sync-able phone comes to mind. Sync only to outlook and lotus. Bummer. Would love to be able to sync jpilot with it. And on and on. So I don't see one big reason for linus still being a small player, but rather lots of little ones. Just my $.02 Richard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Philippe Landau wrote: | Dave Barton wrote: | From: Philippe Landau [EMAIL PROTECTED] | You are tenacious, Dave, great :-) | Some may say tenacious, others would say that I am too stupid to know | when to give up. ;) | You wanted to but were kind enough to honour the efforts of list members | :-) | | Still no joy with Lilo ? | Did give LiLo a shot, but the situation is even worse. On boot I get | half a screen full of 01s and then total lockup, requiring a hardware | reset. Thanks for trying to help, but I am sad to say Microsoft has | won this box. | Did anyone ever attempt to make a systematic survey | of reasons why Linux remains such a small player ? | Of course corruption on a massive scale is involved | in selling Windows to governments and corporations. | But why is the percentage of surfers using Linux so small ? | Is it mainly because of the games or are the shortcomings | of Linux an important factor and which ones most ? | | Kind regards Philippe I had an older gateway which was bought new back in 98 (yes, you can guess what os it had), the drive puked somewhere around 2000 and wiped out the os. It was simply a matter of $$ for me to switch to linux, 200 for windows or the price of a cd for rh9, you do the math. and here I am today. Even my son and his friends think its cool, the desktop effects, no viruses, etc. I have a mythbox setup in the basement for them, I find them playing sauerbraten, and cube more often than watching tv. I didnt switch to suse until right around novell got involved, and this list helped me a great deal to get off the ground. now I have a mixture of distros in the house, including 10.3 on this trusty acer laptop. I guess what my feeling is, I dont think someone is going to switch unless #1, they are forced to, or #2, if they are technically inclined and like to experiment. #3, they BUY a pc with linux installed. Which is just starting to happen mainstream today! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHk3/E1L48K811Km0RAqkeAKCEbZOvRUJcJYMSOESHZKTbz2WedQCgwq8n 4mVTzDl/lbyYaorvVkuOqyo= =xs0e -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] SuSE 10.3 troubles on my GamePC laptop
Maura Edelweiss Monville wrote: Therefore X was messed up ... how come ? It worked fine up to the night before. I turned off the computer in the end of my working session. An update could be the culprit. In short I had to reinstall SuSE 10.3 which fixed the problem. But the serious difficulty was to save three directories where I have all my recent developments. I thought through knoppix I could mount both the internal and external hard drive and make copies. Apparently knoppix mounts the peripherals in a read-only mode (???) so .. forget about it. No, it does to protect users, but right-click a drive on the desktop and choose the option to make them writable. Fortunately I have a web site on a remote server. So from the simple text- mode I could compress and ftp my directories to my web site from which I could recover them after reinstalling SuSE 10.3 As a consequence I fell behind my schedule. To prevent future emergencies I am thinking of getting another laptop/notebook. You are right, if you depend on your computer, you need a backup computer at the ready. Kind regards Philippe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Virtualbox versus WMware (was: SuSE 10.3 troubles on my GamePC laptop
Maura Edelweiss Monville wrote: Since I have to use MS Office every now and then I would consider to run alternatively Windows and SuSE through WMware. Now I run MS Office through CrossOveR. Is WMware stable and reliable ? Yes, others recommend VirtualBox though (free too). Or if it is just for that: Crossover Office, which is not free. Which one is easier to install and backup ? Kind regards Philippe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux
On Sun January 20 2008 9:17 am, James Knott wrote: Richard wrote: I suspect that many might use it as I do, for all net and surfing time, some personal apps, eg gnucash. Still have to keep a copy of Win around as I coach swim teams and the software written to manage my team, keep times, run meets, manage financials, etc, all run only on Win. Have you tried running it under Wine? -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org A couple of years ago...to no real success. Would run for a bit, then hang on some missing dll file or something like that. In the middle of running a meet with 300 kids, times of no more than 20 seconds between heats...can't handle little blips that I have to figure out. I am the coach. I set up the computer for others to run since I can do that, but I do not want to leave the deck to handle computer stuff. However unreliable win might be the program that runs on it is solid, stable, forgiving of errors by unsophisticated users, and does not lose data. I need to be able to take a non-program savy mom or dad, show them the program and in less than 10 minutes walk away and have them run it. I do appreciate the suggestion, and just for my own self-satisfaction, may give it a try again some time...but I think that still does not handle the essential issue of so many little apps that right now need win, do not run easily or at all on lin, so difficult to get most common users to switch. For example, when I got my phone I knew some great features would not be available if I did not run win to use them. I said, fine, I'll do without those features. since I was not going to live in win. How many common win users would say that and then switch to lin just to give up those features, no matter what you might say about its essential stability, etc.? Richard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Advanced postfix question: IP and reverse DNS
Johannes Nohl wrote: I think you can use the 'sender_dependent_relayhost_maps' setting: @domain1.com smtp1: @domain2.com smtp2: Hm, don't know. I'm not relaying I send directly to recipient. I tried and mail returned with following error: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Host or domain name not found. Name service error for name=smtp2 type=: Host found but no data record of requested type Your dns couldn't resolve the domain domain2.com. Solve your dns setup problem. If you have the smtp client in a chroot (master.cf the fifth column must be n to disable chroot) make sure the dns configuration is accessible to the smtp client. This is not a problem with sender based routing. Further help is almost impossible without posting of the configuration (postconf -n, master.cf). My dns has no problem to resolve domain2.com: dig domain2.com ; DiG 9.4.1-P1 domain2.com ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 42970 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;domain2.com. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: domain2.com.86400 IN A 211.106.65.110 domain2.com.86400 IN A 211.106.65.118 ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: domain2.com.86400 IN NS ns.domainca.com. domain2.com.86400 IN NS ns2.domainca.com. If this is an attempt to obfuscate the real domain, please use example.com or example.org. As far as I could read until now the sender_dependent_relayhost map expects a domain as well on the right hand side, or? (like netxthop in transport) E.g. smtp2:domainxy.com (it has to know to where to relay). I'm somehow lost. I can't imagine that a used options is deprecated and newer version don't substitute it... I'm a bit lost as well. (^-^) As far as I know, Postfix didn't support sender based routing before version 2.3. If you really need routing based on the sender address you could also use the FILTER action in a check_sender_access. smtpd_sender_restrictions = check_sender_access hash:/etc/postfix/senderdomain_routing /etc/postfix/senderdomain_routing: example1.comFILTER domain1-smtp: example2.comFILTER domain2-smtp: By the way, did you execute postfix reload after making changes to master.cf or main.cf? -- Sandy List replies only please! Please address PMs to: news-reply2 (@) japantest (.) homelinux (.) com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Advanced postfix question: IP and reverse DNS
Johannes Nohl wrote: I think you can use the 'sender_dependent_relayhost_maps' setting: @domain1.com smtp1: @domain2.com smtp2: Hm, don't know. I'm not relaying I send directly to recipient. I tried and mail returned with following error: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Host or domain name not found. Name service error for name=smtp2 type=: Host found but no data record of requested type Maybe you forgot the ':'? There shold be absolutely no reason for postfix to lookup 'smtp2'. Is smtp2 defined in master.cf ? (are you on IPV6?) As far as I could read until now the sender_dependent_relayhost map expects a domain as well on the right hand side, or? (like netxthop in transport) E.g. smtp2:domainxy.com (it has to know to where to relay). No, it doesn't. If you don't specify where to relay, the nexthop is the MX for the recipient domain. /Per Jessen, Zürich -- http://www.spamchek.com/ - your spam is our business. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Browser behavior
On Sunday 20 January 2008 19:22:00 Rajko M. wrote: On Sunday 20 January 2008 09:56:27 am Stan Goodman wrote: On Sunday 20 January 2008 17:05:27 James Knott wrote: ... I have never seen that behaviour. When I attempt to go to a bogus site, both Firefox and Konqueror give an error message. ... I do find it curious that the same behavior exhibited by both Firefox and Konqueror -- two independent applications that, as far as I know, do not share any elements. If they do share e.g. a dll, I suppose that would finger the shared file. I have seen the other page instead of error, but that has nothing to do with browsers. The trick is that if DNS query should give error my provider redirects browser to their advertising page. The same happens if their DNS server has no answer (guess: it times out), I get the same. I was thinking about how they do that. Probably they use proxy that is replacing failed DNS query with adds. That's simple programming. But in my case the default page belongs to me, as does the domain. That may be the answer to why is THAT page the default -- its address is the same as the domain of my email address -- but it would need to add the top domain to do that. But it is very annoying. And the question remains what software is causing it, since it is independent of the browser. This does not happen with OS/2 using the same name servers. For that matter, I don't remember it happening with openSuSE v10.2. And it doesn't happen with the v10.3 of other people. Nevertheless, I could try other name servers. Maybe this one is taking too long to suit SuSE, but I doubt that -- it is too consistent. What bothers me is that it is connected with the inability for the browser to complete a URL with the com. Firefox knows how to do that, but it seems not get a chance to try. The jump to my website seems instantaneous; it doesn't even think about top domains. -- Regards, Rajko -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] KDM login window not going into power save mode
I have a few 10.3 installations, but on only one of the machines, which has an NVidia GeForce 7300 LE, the KDM login window never goes black or to stand-by/power save mode. Since this is outside of the KDE environment, I don't know how to control it. I thought it had something to do with acpi and I checked that acpid is running and /var/log/acpi has no errors. Where should I check to repair this behaviour? -- Carlos FL It is not worth an intelligent man's time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that. - G. H. Hardy -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Advanced postfix question: IP and reverse DNS
Hello Sandy Per, first I list my configuration, I work with IPv4: master.cf: smtp unix - - n - - smtp # ^ first IP for all except example.com # bind second IP for example.com smtp155 unix - - n - - smtp -o smtp_bind_address=xx.xx.xx.155 - - - main.cf: sender_dependent_relayhost_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sender_relay - - - /etc/postfix/sender_relay: @example.com smtp155: - - - I did postmap sender_relay and rcpostfix reload. - - - dig example.com: ; DiG 9.4.1-P1 example.com ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 18538 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;example.com. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: example.com. 3544IN A xy.xy.xy.xy ;; Query time: 2 msec ;; SERVER: xy.xy.xy.xy#53(xy.xy.xy.xy) ;; WHEN: Sun Jan 20 19:06:24 2008 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 51 As far as I could read until now the sender_dependent_relayhost map expects a domain as well on the right hand side, or? (like netxthop in transport) E.g. smtp2:domainxy.com (it has to know to where to relay). No, it doesn't. If you don't specify where to relay, the nexthop is the MX for the recipient domain. So it works like transport basically? I send a test mail: mail -r [EMAIL PROTECTED] -s test [EMAIL PROTECTED] It returns the described error: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Host or domain name not found. Name service error for name=smtp155 type=: Host found but no data record of requested type What's the meaning of Host found but no data record of requested type? Why does it work if I have a empty /etc/postfix/sender_relay? Without DNS errors? Thanks. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] I can't hear nothing using front plugs
Manuel Mely wrote: Well, i installed alsa 1.0.15, i can use the plugs that are back of the chasis, but i would like to use the ones that are front of it. This may sound stupid, but did you already see if the front plugs are really connected to the motherboard? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Advanced postfix question: IP and reverse DNS
dig example.com: ; DiG 9.4.1-P1 example.com ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 18538 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;example.com. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: example.com. 3544IN A xy.xy.xy.xy ;; Query time: 2 msec ;; SERVER: xy.xy.xy.xy#53(xy.xy.xy.xy) ;; WHEN: Sun Jan 20 19:06:24 2008 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 51 That was wrong of course, the dig wasn't for example.com. It was xyz.com: dig xyz.com: ; DiG 9.4.1-P1 xyz.com ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 18538 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;xyz.com. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: xyz.com. 3544IN A xy.xy.xy.xy ;; Query time: 2 msec ;; SERVER: xy.xy.xy.xy#53(xy.xy.xy.xy) ;; WHEN: Sun Jan 20 19:06:24 2008 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 51 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] KDE 4 opensuse repo?
Chris Arnold wrote: I want to install 10.3 on a test drive and during that install of 10.3, install kde4 from opensuse repo. I look through KDE on opensuse and see KDE Backports KDE Core Packages KDE Community KDE Playground KDE 4 Which one do i use to get stable KDE4? Or do you have to get it from KDE.org? You should use KDE4 repository. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Latest xorg update is problematic
Hello, Since installing the latest xorg updates for OpenSuSE 10.2, some applications fail to start. One example I was able to verify is eclipse (ver. 3.2). Here is the error message: Is anyone here aware of this issue ? similar problem here: since this update IceWM icons and renderings around a window (maximize,minimize, title buttons) are scrambled with dots and lines. i reinstalled the old xorg-x11-libs-7.2-23.i586.rpm and xorg-x11-libs-7.2-23.i586.rpm and now this errors are gone on my opensuse 10.2 i586 regards, Georg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Advanced postfix question: IP and reverse DNS
Johannes Nohl wrote: More from my master.cf. I've integrated amavisd-new. Maybe this is disturbing the rest?? # hand over an spam / virus filter amavisfeed unix - - n - 2 lmtp -o lmtp_data_done_timeout=1200 -o lmtp_send_xforward_command=yes -o disable_dns_lookups=yes -o max_use=20 # Reinjection 127.0.0.1:10025 inet n - n - - smtpd -o content_filter= -o smtpd_delay_reject=no -o smtpd_client_restrictions=permit_mynetworks,reject -o smtpd_helo_restrictions= -o smtpd_sender_restrictions= -o smtpd_recipient_restrictions=permit_mynetworks,reject -o smtpd_data_restrictions=reject_unauth_pipelining -o smtpd_end_of_data_restrictions= -o smtpd_restriction_classes= -o mynetworks=127.0.0.0/8 -o smtpd_error_sleep_time=0 -o smtpd_soft_error_limit=1001 -o smtpd_hard_error_limit=1000 -o smtpd_client_connection_count_limit=0 -o smtpd_client_connection_rate_limit=0 -o receive_override_options=no_header_body_checks,no_unknown_recipient_checks,no_milters -o local_header_rewrite_clients= No, the problem is a bit more difficult than I thought. I looked up some remarks from Wietse on smtp_bind_address and routing, and the answer is that you NEED separate instances if you really want sender_based smtp_bind_address. So, you will either have to set up separate instances (it's not THAT much work) or use the normal routing with sending ip. Why do you want separate sending ip addresses with on postfix instance anyway? With multiple instances you get a separate queue for each instance and you can fine tune the configuration for each instance. -- Sandy List replies only please! Please address PMs to: news-reply2 (@) japantest (.) homelinux (.) com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Advanced postfix question: IP and reverse DNS
More from my master.cf. I've integrated amavisd-new. Maybe this is disturbing the rest?? # hand over an spam / virus filter amavisfeed unix - - n - 2 lmtp -o lmtp_data_done_timeout=1200 -o lmtp_send_xforward_command=yes -o disable_dns_lookups=yes -o max_use=20 # Reinjection 127.0.0.1:10025 inet n - n - - smtpd -o content_filter= -o smtpd_delay_reject=no -o smtpd_client_restrictions=permit_mynetworks,reject -o smtpd_helo_restrictions= -o smtpd_sender_restrictions= -o smtpd_recipient_restrictions=permit_mynetworks,reject -o smtpd_data_restrictions=reject_unauth_pipelining -o smtpd_end_of_data_restrictions= -o smtpd_restriction_classes= -o mynetworks=127.0.0.0/8 -o smtpd_error_sleep_time=0 -o smtpd_soft_error_limit=1001 -o smtpd_hard_error_limit=1000 -o smtpd_client_connection_count_limit=0 -o smtpd_client_connection_rate_limit=0 -o receive_override_options=no_header_body_checks,no_unknown_recipient_checks,no_milters -o local_header_rewrite_clients= -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] BASH .bashrc su question
Chee How Chua wrote: On Jan 18, 2008 5:17 PM, Marcin Floryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With screen you can easily attach and detach from the session and continue it being connected remotely so it is easy to start some task in the terminal window on my machine and the continue when I am away. Screen can give you the same tabs though presented as a list (Ctrl+A + ) and you can name them too. Switching is easy using (Ctrl+A + n) so you can go directly from window 2 to window 5 :-) -- Marcin Floryan http://marcin.floryan.pl/ Another useful function of screen is it can do copy and paste. I know it isn't exceptionally useful in a GUI environment, but if you only work in runlevel 3, the copy-and-paste capability can be quite handy. -- How Thank you all for leading me to screen! It is an amazingly elegant way to manage multiple terminal sessions in a text console or in konsole in X. The cut and paste, an ability to turn logging on and off is great. No need to have kedit open to capture snippets to, just turn logging on and it is done automatically, switch it on or off with a keystroke. But for the 'su question' that started this thread, I would have never known screen existed. -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux?
David wrote: I only pop over to the XP side to play games. It always strikes me as odd when I hear people say how 'bloze is so great for games. There is one thing in ms favor, and that is the availability of game titles, due to their large, long term market share. But that's not to say that there are no games for linux. Over the years I've played games on linux (I kind of like the networked 3D FPS variety) starting with good old doom in the mid 90s, to doom 2, then quake, quake 2, quake 3, Return to Castle Wolfenstein, ut2000, ut2004, Enemy Territory, and more, all 100% native linux games. There are of course a lot of games that are available for ms and not for linux, but you know what? I already spend way too much time gaming, but if I were really determined to play one of those games, I could run it under wine, or failing that, buy a console. At any rate, I don't feel the need, nor the faintest desire, to resort to wintendo for games, or anything else. Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Advanced postfix question: IP and reverse DNS
Per Jessen wrote: It returns the described error: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Host or domain name not found. Name service error for name=smtp155 type=: Host found but no data record of requested type This looks to me as if postfix is trying to lookup an IPV6 address for 'smtp155' when trying to deliver mail to xyz.com. I don't understand why 'smtp155' is somehow being seen as a hostname, instead of just a symbolic name of a transport. OK, it seems that the right-hand side of an entry in the table for 'sender_dependent_relayhost_maps' is a hostname, not a transport-name. So then you're back to Sandys suggestion of using check_sender_access with FILTER results, but judging by his research, it doesn't seem possible after all. /Per Jessen, Zürich -- http://www.spamchek.com/ - your spam is our business. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Phenom and opensuse
Yoriaki FUJIMORI wrote: Dear listers, (3) OpenSUSE 10.2 No problem. But, the benchmark showed the half speed of the CPU. On the window executing top, the cpu load level of all 4 cores showed 50%. So, the recent kernel 2.6.18 does not know Phenom. (4) OpenSUSE 10.3 I had got a lot of trouble in installing this. In the middle of installation, the system hanged many times. It took more thatn half day to complete the installation of minimal graphical system. Enven after installation, I had to reset PC many times until the text login propmt comes out. Another trouble is it takes a very long time to shutdown the system. Once it starts, things go well without X. You are not alone. Many of us share your pain with the 10.3 installer. 10.2 install - no problems, 10.3 install - bloody mess, crashed gui installer, broken repair installation, etc. It will be interesting to see the kernel experts chime in and help us understand how the current kernel supports the quad core single die architecture and whether it does or doesn't have an affect on the 50% core load you are seeing. The problem could be as simple as a bug in the way the core load is calculated for quad core processors or as serious as something that prevents any utilization of the remainder of the processor power. What says the braintrust? -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Advanced postfix question: IP and reverse DNS
Johannes Nohl wrote: master.cf: smtp unix - - n - - smtp # ^ first IP for all except example.com # bind second IP for example.com smtp155 unix - - n - - smtp -o smtp_bind_address=xx.xx.xx.155 Looks good. main.cf: sender_dependent_relayhost_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sender_relay Good. /etc/postfix/sender_relay: @example.com smtp155: Good. I send a test mail: mail -r [EMAIL PROTECTED] -s test [EMAIL PROTECTED] It returns the described error: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Host or domain name not found. Name service error for name=smtp155 type=: Host found but no data record of requested type This looks to me as if postfix is trying to lookup an IPV6 address for 'smtp155' when trying to deliver mail to xyz.com. I don't understand why 'smtp155' is somehow being seen as a hostname, instead of just a symbolic name of a transport. /Per Jessen, Zürich -- http://www.spamchek.com/ - your spam is our business. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Gimp and Firefox
Philipp Thomas wrote: On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 17:28:22 +0100, peter wrote: Consider what would happen to Apple sells if Adobe would perform such a port. To be frank, I'd say it wont do much. My observations tell me that most Apple users in the arts and ad business have no interest in Linux. Philipp Lots of computer users, especially Apple users who generally choose Apple because it is simple and intuitive perceive Linux as a monitor and keyboard hooked up to a mainframe with the only user interaction being long lines of typed commands and code. Maybe not that bad, but there is still this sentiment that Macs do image manipulation or do sound recording/editing better (than anything that could possibly exist), despite any evidence otherwise. --Jason -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux?
The main problem for Linux games, is lack of backward-compatibility (read: ABI). That is, a game binary made now, is very unlikely to work 10 years from now on year 2018 Linux OS, while most Windows games can be played within ~10-15 year compatibility range. That is: Windows 95 games still mostly work on Windows Vista. Until Linux will have a better backward-compatibility (LSB?), it is unlikely to see many commercial games out there. That is: if I were a game development company, that targets both Linux OS Windows, I would use customized Wine (like Google Picasa did), because there is no backward-compatibility in Linux systems. - The best can be done here is using someone else's (Windows) backward-compatibility and emulate that on Linux OS. This way, the game will still be playable on Linux 2018, maybe with some minor changes in that emulation layer. -- -Alexey Eremenko Technologov -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Where to define environment variables for Gnome?
Was: LANG wrong on Gnome I didn't get any response, so I try it again with another headline: After installation of Suse 10.3 everything worked well, but from one day on I have been getting frequently the following error message: Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. Using the fallback 'C' locale Then I got aware that echo $LANG executed on a virtual terminal on my Gnome desktop results in C So I tried: - yast-sysconfig-System-Environment-Language: RC_LANG=en_US.UTF-8 (leaving all other RC_... empty) - ~/.profile: export LANG=en_US.UTF-8 - /etc/profile.local: export LANG=en_US.UTF-8 but nothing helped. When logging in at a text console (ctrl-alt-F1), then LANG has the expected value (en_US.UTF-8). How can I track down the problem? -- Frank Hrebabetzky +55 / 48 / 3235 1106 Florianopolis, Brazil -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux?
On Sun, Jan 20, 2008 at 10:21:15PM +0200, Alexey Eremenko wrote: The main problem for Linux games, is lack of backward-compatibility (read: ABI). That is, a game binary made now, is very unlikely to work 10 years from now on year 2018 Linux OS, while most Windows games can be played within ~10-15 year compatibility range. That is: Windows 95 games still mostly work on Windows Vista. Until Linux will have a better backward-compatibility (LSB?), it is unlikely to see many commercial games out there. Huh? I can run binaries built for Linux 0.98 just fine on Linux today, no problems at all. This isn't a real problem at all for commercial applications, it is quite simple to just bundle up all of your needed libraries with your application to ensure it works on all versions of Linux and on future and older versions. And yes, I know all about the LSB, and have worked with people to try to make it more sane... That is: if I were a game development company, that targets both Linux OS Windows, I would use customized Wine (like Google Picasa did), because there is no backward-compatibility in Linux systems. - The best can be done here is using someone else's (Windows) backward-compatibility and emulate that on Linux OS. What specific problems with backward-compatibility do you see on Linux today? Where are you having problems that you see needs to be solved. Specifics please. Personally, I think it's the whole size of market segment that is keeping companies away from Linux. greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux?
Alexey Eremenko wrote: The main problem for Linux games, is lack of backward-compatibility (read: ABI). That is, a game binary made now, is very unlikely to work 10 years from now on year 2018 Linux OS, while most Windows games can be played within ~10-15 year compatibility range. That is: Windows 95 games still mostly work on Windows Vista. Really, you think it's the ABI? I downloaded the quake 3 arena demo in 1999. Back in the day I was playing on redhat 6.x, with a 2.2 kernel - 10 years later, that same binary plays better than ever on suse 10.3, with a 2.6 kernel. So, I don't see this as an issue. The real issue IMHO is the elephant in the room that nobody seems to have noticed: The frantic efforts of an extremely wealthy monopoly, bent on fighting linux adoption at every turn, and using their seemingly endless budget to that end. Is this so hard to see? Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux?
Joe Sloan wrote: The real issue IMHO is the elephant in the room that nobody seems to have noticed: The frantic efforts of an extremely wealthy monopoly, bent on fighting linux adoption at every turn, and using their seemingly endless budget to that end. Is this so hard to see? Joe, i mentioned the massive corruption in my original post, but blaming important Linux shortcomings on that alone is no way out. If these are not systematically investigated and evaluated by companies investing hundreds of millions in Linux it points to conspiracy. Let us push for openness. Kind regards Philippe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Gimp and Firefox
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2008-01-18 at 21:24 -0600, Jim Sabatke wrote: Also, if gimp is running and I restart firefox, the tabs that were there before the crash appear, but never load; they just sit there like they're waiting for something to happen (like gimp closing). This happens to me without gimp running. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHk681tTMYHG2NR9URAuMNAJ9UOJiYkIBARtu9ZBmlnRGulz9WkwCeJpCV 0mj6254t1jAVBEgvGgSvdac= =QWOx -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Advanced postfix question: IP and reverse DNS
Johannes Nohl wrote: So then you're back to Sandys suggestion of using check_sender_access with FILTER results, but judging by his research, it doesn't seem possible after all. I would have never thought that. It seems that it was possible until postfix 2.2 using sender_based_routing. What Sandy said was that it isn't doable at all. As I understood even not with FILTER. NOT WITHOUT SEPARATE INSTANCES. If you set up separate instances it would work. -- Sandy List replies only please! Please address PMs to: news-reply2 (@) japantest (.) homelinux (.) com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Advanced postfix question: IP and reverse DNS
So then you're back to Sandys suggestion of using check_sender_access with FILTER results, but judging by his research, it doesn't seem possible after all. I would have never thought that. It seems that it was possible until postfix 2.2 using sender_based_routing. What Sandy said was that it isn't doable at all. As I understood even not with FILTER. THANKS FOR YOUR HELP. I will try another MTA. It's said because I spent much time to learn about postfix. Don't know, I'll look around qmail, exim... On of them will do it. Bye, Johannes -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux?
Hi Greg KH, What specific problems with backward-compatibility do you see on Linux today? Where are you having problems that you see needs to be solved. Specifics please. I'm happy that one of the best is listening :) OK: my own experience: I took tuxracer.RPM from Mandrake Linux 9.2 to Mandrake Linux 10.1 (one year difference) and it crashed on start. Unfortunately, I haven't done any stracing/debugging to get more facts, because it was a looong time ago. But then again, if some commercial company release app XYZ based on Qt1, it is very unlikely to run on modern Linux systems. Additionally, I have worked with the klik package management team and we had two goals: achieve cross-Linux compatibility of our packages, and provide one-click install (something that 10.3 does, but very differently from klik). We (klik team) achieved one-click install goal fully, but the cross-Linux compatibility is flaky at best (very alpha stage). The project received much testing from openSUSE/Debian/Ubuntu community, so there you get good stability (90% apps run), while on RedHat/Fedora we only achieved about 30% working apps. We can't really blame Fedora for this, it's just every distro is different and sometimes, a small difference such as a symlink makes a difference between a running app and a crashing app. ( libpcap.so - libpcap.so.0.94), plus we haven't developers on Fedora systems. LSB doesn't specifies symlinks for libraries, yet. http://klik.atekon.de/presentation/img60.html Mostly we battled different versions of libstdc++, without good results. More info: http://klik.atekon.de/wiki/index.php/ABI_insanity Kernel Module/Driver ABI insanity: Not to speak about kernel modules (drivers), which break with every nano-upgrade of one-line of Linux code. While drivers ABI isn't very stable on Windows too, you have still very high chances, that a binary driver written for Windows 2000 kernel will run on Windows XP/2003 kernels, unmodified. Those LKMs are used quite frequently inside normal applications by-the-way. VirtualBox, Nero ImageDrive, and Incentives Pro USB-over-IP are such examples. BTW: LSB doesn't have specs for LKMs too. I know, that those problems are nearly impossible to fix, but easing them will already help me a lot. For example, if LKM were compatible for all Linux kernel's first three numbers. That is: LKM compiled for Linux 2.6.18.0 should work on all Linux 2.6.18.x series, not break between 2.6.18.0-1 to- 2.6.18.0-2 versions, that are downloaded via online-updates. This will be huge step forward, as it will ensure drivers compatibility at least within one specific distro. Theoretically, I have heard about kernel version magic, but it never worked for me. -- -Alexey Eremenko Technologov -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Virtualbox versus WMware
On Sun, 2008-01-20 at 18:35 +0100, Philippe Landau wrote: Maura Edelweiss Monville wrote: Since I have to use MS Office every now and then I would consider to run alternatively Windows and SuSE through WMware. Now I run MS Office through CrossOveR. Is WMware stable and reliable ? Yes, others recommend VirtualBox though (free too). Or if it is just for that: Crossover Office, which is not free. Which one is easier to install and backup ? I do all my work in OO and to send it I save as MS office. If it is a complicated stuff or a presentation I do a quick check with MS running under crossover. Crossover works great with word, excel and pp. If you want outlook or access it will not work. Crossover is very reliable and it works as a linux program. I love it. The backup is very easy and protect all the MS license. It creates an archive called bottles that can be save as or even create an rpm. It can be imported in another system as well. VM ware is a very professional virtual system. Ain't cheap. I have the workstation. I tried VirtualBox, qemu and all of them worked but nothing is comparable to VMware. I do not use or need VMware for MS office. VMware is also very easy to backup. It does everything you can think off and more. -=terry=- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] SuSE 10.3 troubles on my GamePC laptop
--- Philippe Landau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maura Edelweiss Monville wrote: Therefore X was messed up ... how come ? It worked fine up to the night before. I turned off the computer in the end of my working session. An update could be the culprit. I noticed that my laptop is being updated pretty frequently. When I am notified that some new patches are ready I am at a loss whether to install them or not. In short I had to reinstall SuSE 10.3 which fixed the problem. But the serious difficulty was to save three directories where I have all my recent developments. I thought through knoppix I could mount both the internal and external hard drive and make copies. Apparently knoppix mounts the peripherals in a read-only mode (???) so .. forget about it. No, it does to protect users, but right-click a drive on the desktop and choose the option to make them writable. Thank you. I did not know that. The previous time I used knoppix was over 2 years ago. But I would expect a technician that I pay as the Linux expert to know that. I saw this guy groping for a solution just like me. Fortunately I have a web site on a remote server. So from the simple text- mode I could compress and ftp my directories to my web site from which I could recover them after reinstalling SuSE 10.3 As a consequence I fell behind my schedule. To prevent future emergencies I am thinking of getting another laptop/notebook. You are right, if you depend on your computer, you need a backup computer at the ready. I am planning to get another laptop. A dual core. I have no time to update myself about what is available put together a configuration. Thank you, Maura Kind regards Philippe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maura Edelweiss M. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Apache, PHP works but the PHP extensions don't
PHP functions normally from the command line, but is missing features when running from Apache Both tests use this code (hello_gd.php): ?php var_dump(gd_info()); ? php ./hello_gd.php = Dumps the expected diagnostics out to the terminal. When I do this: firefox http://localhost/~dlmarti/hello_gd.php = I get a blank screen. The /var/log/apache2/errorlog shows this: [Sun Jan 20 16:34:47 2008] [error] [client XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX] PHP Fatal error: Call to undefined function gd_info() in /home/dlmarti/public_html/hello.php on line 2 I am running a fresh install of SUSE 10.3, with all the patches. Previously I was running SUSE 10.1, and I've compared the setup and I don't see any major differences. Anyone have any idea where to continue looking? Its like PHP can't find its libraries when running from Apache? -- David L. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux?
On Sun, January 20, 2008 12:21 pm, Alexey Eremenko wrote: The main problem for Linux games, is lack of backward-compatibility (read: ABI). That is, a game binary made now, is very unlikely to work 10 years from now on year 2018 Linux OS, while most Windows games can be played within ~10-15 year compatibility range. That is: Windows 95 games still mostly work on Windows Vista. Actually, older games are finally not compatible on wintendo either. IIRC, you have to use DOSBOX or something like that. Until Linux will have a better backward-compatibility (LSB?), it is unlikely to see many commercial games out there. I actually see the end of Linux games here... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DirectX#DirectX_10 ...though I could care less about such things, apparently the DirectX 10.1 has the ability to utilize the GPU to render much of the graphics, taking the load off the CPU. Thus one ends up with very realistic and detailed gaming. Of course, I'm still trying to finish Planetfall, so I'll be a ways off. :P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] SuSE 10.3 troubles on my GamePC laptop
Maura Edelweiss Monville wrote: --- Philippe Landau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maura Edelweiss Monville wrote: Therefore X was messed up ... how come ? It worked fine up to the night before. I turned off the computer in the end of my working session. An update could be the culprit. I noticed that my laptop is being updated pretty frequently. When I am notified that some new patches are ready I am at a loss whether to install them or not. It's a mess ... And the accompanying information is lacking. But now that you will have two computers you can update the main computer as soon as they arrive and wait before updating the backup computer. You are protected by a router i assume ? The previous time I used knoppix was over 2 years ago. But I would expect a technician that I pay as the Linux expert to know that. I saw this guy groping for a solution just like me. Good support people are rare. The job is emotionally taxing. Plus usually marketing is decisive favoring the rip-offs because most customers prefer to fall for the gloss and the posturing (experts). You are right, if you depend on your computer, you need a backup computer at the ready. I am planning to get another laptop. A dual core. I have no time to update myself about what is available put together a configuration. I personally prefer the 22 inch screens and EM-free keyboards. Kind regards Philippe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Advanced postfix question: IP and reverse DNS
What Sandy said was that it isn't doable at all. As I understood even not with FILTER. NOT WITHOUT SEPARATE INSTANCES. If you set up separate instances it would work. Ok, but that would mean that I have to set up at least 4 instances. And I have no idea right now what about the content filter (amavis) and it's helpers (clam, spamassassin). It's too much, probably. Johannes -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux?
PerfectReign wrote: I actually see the end of Linux games here... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DirectX#DirectX_10 hmm, OK, so mickeysoft is changing one of their APIs yet again... and that relates to linux games how? ...though I could care less about such things, apparently the DirectX 10.1 has the ability to utilize the GPU to render much of the graphics, taking the load off the CPU. Thus one ends up with very realistic and detailed gaming. IMHO the OpenGL folks are still in the game, regardless of how mickeysoft would like to spin it. Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Connecting a Bluetooth Mouse to 10.3 why is it so hard?
Got a new Dell Latitude D630 this week computer complete with 4 GB of ram, 160 GB SATA drive, DVD burner and a Dell Bluetooth Mouse. I wiped out that other OS and did a fresh install of OpenSUSE 10.3. After much angst I have finally gotten the Bluetooth mouse mostly working with OpenSUSE 10.3. The Gnome Bluetooth utilities are broken and do not work out of the box. After much searching on Google I discovered that there are updated Bluez utilities on GNOME:Community, which some people have managed to get to work, in may case, however, it was still a no go after I installed them. I finally gave up and removed all the Gnome Bluetooth packages with YAST then configured the Bluetooth Manager in Sessions - Startup Programs to run KDE kbluetooth instead of the broken and now removed Gnome bluetooth-manager. kbluetooth was able to see the mouse and connect it the first time I tried. The problem remains is that the Mouse does not work until after I login to the desktop and use the touchpad mouse to manually connect the mouse from with in the kbluetooth applet. How can I configure OpenSUSE to automatically connect to the bluetooth mouse so it 'just works'? I have spent the last two day searching Google for the answer and have tried all the suggestions but none of them have worked. Thanks -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Advanced postfix question: IP and reverse DNS
Johannes Nohl wrote: What Sandy said was that it isn't doable at all. As I understood even not with FILTER. NOT WITHOUT SEPARATE INSTANCES. If you set up separate instances it would work. Ok, but that would mean that I have to set up at least 4 instances. And I have no idea right now what about the content filter (amavis) and it's helpers (clam, spamassassin). It's too much, probably. Not really, you just have to configure amavisd-new as if you would provide the service for several servers. The internal amavisd-new settings wouldn't change at all. I spent a lot of time to get familiar with Postfix, so it's easier for me to configure Postfix to do what I want than to spend the time to break in another mta. Your mileage may vary. -- Sandy List replies only please! Please address PMs to: news-reply2 (@) japantest (.) homelinux (.) com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux (was: Grub Error 21
On Sunday 20 January 2008 06:06, Philippe Landau wrote: Dave Barton wrote: From: Philippe Landau [EMAIL PROTECTED] You are tenacious, Dave, great :-) Some may say tenacious, others would say that I am too stupid to know when to give up. ;) You wanted to but were kind enough to honour the efforts of list members :-) Still no joy with Lilo ? Did give LiLo a shot, but the situation is even worse. On boot I get half a screen full of 01s and then total lockup, requiring a hardware reset. Thanks for trying to help, but I am sad to say Microsoft has won this box. Did anyone ever attempt to make a systematic survey of reasons why Linux remains such a small player ? Of course corruption on a massive scale is involved in selling Windows to governments and corporations. But why is the percentage of surfers using Linux so small ? Is it mainly because of the games or are the shortcomings of Linux an important factor and which ones most ? Kind regards Philippe From my own point of view, the lack of support for peripherals is one of the biggest problems for Linux. Yes, I know that the source codes are not available, and I'm not a real programmer myself, but some of this stuff could be reverse-engineered, rather than every six months a new version of the OS, full of bugs. Fix some version of Linux, then concentrate on getting things to work with it. When you can plug in almost any name-brand printer, almost any USB camera, drive, memory card, etc., then concentrate on getting unique Windows programs to work flawlessly by emulation--I think of AutoCad, GW Basic, Borland Pascal, Corel Draw, and so on (maybe some do already, but it's easier to just go to Windows to run them)--then I think Linux has a much better chance to catch on. While Linux seems to be pointed at the business world, which has, in general, a rather narrow batch of program types--word processing, spread sheets, and slide illustrations, and can pretty much do that, it needs to become more friendly to the home user, who would certainly prefer not to have to pay off M/S every year or so, as is becoming obviously their way of life. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.--Ann Landers. And, of course, games. I'm not a gamer. I play solitaire sometimes, but that's about it. But games would get a _big_ play (no pun intended) if there were a lot for Linux. One problem I see: Linux is sorta free--if you don't want a lot of the good stuff*--but to get the freebie, you have to have a computer running an OS. It seems to be getting more expensive and complicated to get an OS on disk, so the idea of getting a version that does everything on an intallable disk set, with a manual, and is as bug-free as possible for a reasonable price, that I can buy, preferably at Borders, that will last for years, is something I would really appreciate. *SuSE/Novell has already cut out a lot of the good stuff that used to come with the OS. Free or paid. For SHAME! (It would seem to me that an entrepenour who sold the good stuff on a disk compatible with SuSE could make a buck at it. Except that the damned dependencies seem to change with every version.) --doug Blessed are the peacemakers ... for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A.M. Greeley -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Virtualbox versus WMware
On Sun, 2008-01-20 at 15:23 -0700, Teruel de Campo MD wrote: On Sun, 2008-01-20 at 18:35 +0100, Philippe Landau wrote: Maura Edelweiss Monville wrote: Since I have to use MS Office every now and then I would consider to run alternatively Windows and SuSE through WMware. Now I run MS Office through CrossOveR. Is WMware stable and reliable ? Yes, others recommend VirtualBox though (free too). Or if it is just for that: Crossover Office, which is not free. Which one is easier to install and backup ? I do all my work in OO and to send it I save as MS office. If it is a complicated stuff or a presentation I do a quick check with MS running under crossover. Crossover works great with word, excel and pp. If you want outlook or access it will not work. Crossover is very reliable and it works as a linux program. I love it. The backup is very easy and protect all the MS license. It creates an archive called bottles that can be save as or even create an rpm. It can be imported in another system as well. VM ware is a very professional virtual system. Ain't cheap. I have the workstation. I tried VirtualBox, qemu and all of them worked but nothing is comparable to VMware. I do not use or need VMware for MS office. VMware is also very easy to backup. It does everything you can think off and more. -=terry=- Actually Outlook 2003 does work with Crossover and is supported by Codeweavers. I use it everyday both on my SLED SP1 desktop and my OpenSUSE 10.3 laptop to connect to our Exchange server. Crossover even supports Outlook's RPC over HTTPS connection mode. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Always mount a USB drive with NTFS-3G?
On Jan 20, 2008 6:15 AM, Aaron Kulkis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: just as long as you make sure that /media/WD_Passport exists, you're set. oh, and why do I use volume label, rather then the unique device ID? Because with a volume label, you can replace the device without having to change the fstab on every one of your computers. How do you assign a label to a device on the command line? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux?
On Sun, January 20, 2008 3:16 pm, Joe Sloan wrote: PerfectReign wrote: I actually see the end of Linux games here... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DirectX#DirectX_10 hmm, OK, so mickeysoft is changing one of their APIs yet again... and that relates to linux games how? I'm just suggesting that more of the balance falls to the DirectX crowd than ever before. Unless OpenGL has something competitive to this, I can't see developers choosing to port games to openSUSE or other distros. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux (was: Grub Error 21
On Sun, 2008-01-20 at 18:16 -0500, Doug McGarrett wrote: From my own point of view, the lack of support for peripherals is one of the biggest problems for Linux. Yes, I know that the source codes are not available, and I'm not a real programmer myself, but some of this stuff could be reverse-engineered, rather than every six months a new version of the OS, full of bugs. Fix some version of Linux, then concentrate on getting things to work with it. When you can plug in almost any name-brand printer, almost any USB camera, drive, memory card, etc., then concentrate on getting unique Windows programs to work flawlessly by emulation--I think of AutoCad, GW Basic, Borland Pascal, Corel Draw, and so on (maybe some do already, but it's easier to just go to Windows to run them)--then I think Linux has a much better chance to catch on. While Linux seems to be pointed at the business world, which has, in general, a rather narrow batch of program types--word processing, spread sheets, and slide illustrations, and can pretty much do that, it needs to become more friendly to the home user, who would certainly prefer not to have to pay off M/S every year or so, as is becoming obviously their way of life. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.--Ann Landers. And, of course, games. I'm not a gamer. I play solitaire sometimes, but that's about it. But games would get a _big_ play (no pun intended) if there were a lot for Linux. One problem I see: Linux is sorta free--if you don't want a lot of the good stuff*--but to get the freebie, you have to have a computer running an OS. It seems to be getting more expensive and complicated to get an OS on disk, so the idea of getting a version that does everything on an intallable disk set, with a manual, and is as bug-free as possible for a reasonable price, that I can buy, preferably at Borders, that will last for years, is something I would really appreciate. *SuSE/Novell has already cut out a lot of the good stuff that used to come with the OS. Free or paid. For SHAME! (It would seem to me that an entrepenour who sold the good stuff on a disk compatible with SuSE could make a buck at it. Except that the damned dependencies seem to change with every version.) --doug That's why I think if Novell put openSUSE 11.0 as a boxed edition (which you can buy 10.3 as, but it's a pain, I did and I had to wait 27 days after the public release for it to arrive) and sold it at stores it would sell. BUt there would need to be two things: 1. Incentive. Right now aside from supporting Novell and showing them home Linux can be a business model, and telephone support from SUSE, there is NO incentive to buy openSUSE. I'm NOT saying take software out of the free edition and make people pay for it, instead put in things like codecs from Fluendo, or DVD playback codecs/licenses, things like that that make the openSUSE experience much easier and better. These are things that cost money, but since people are paying for openSUSE, that should even it out. 2. Sell it where it would sell. OK, this is going to sound weird, but instead of selling it at Best Buy or CompUSA (here in the US, other equivalent computer stores across the world ;-)), try getting it in places that there are these young adult computer users, like bookstores or coffee shops (to use US brands again, think about Novell inking a deal to sell openSUSE at Barnes Nobles?) Why? Because think about the stores' huge computer section. Those people could be looking for an alternative to Vista, instead of a book telling them how to cope. Just my $59.99 USD (that ought to be worth about what $0.02 was a while back, huh?) -- Kevin Yo Dupuy | Public Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Happy New Year from Yo.media! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Update to Gimp 2.4
Joe Morris (NTM) wrote: On 01/20/2008 02:29 PM, Joseph Loo wrote: I am worried about the dependencies. If I un-install the program it impacts sane, etc. I need to know what impacts on the other programs otherwise, i may need to re-install a series of programs. I installed the packman version of gimp24 2.4.3, which is the latest version from their web site, by Pascal Bleser, last night. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ rpm -q gimp24 gimp24-2.4.3-0.pm.1 It replaces the openSUSE version, which obsoletes gimp, and if you have it installed, gimp-devel. It also conflicts with the image pattern. You can safely uninstall the pattern (which marks for removal many image related packages). Just go to the Summary and keep all but gimp and gimp-devel (if installed). This works. BTW, I also needed to edit the startup icon, as it was pointing to gimp-2.2, but it is now gimp-2.4. It works great here, also on 10.3 x86_64 Do you know if that compiled version includes EXIF support? If I were to hand compile, configure would pick up my EXIF lib, but the package I got from the SuSE site doesn't seem to have EXIF enabled. Jim -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Latest xorg update is problematic
On Sunday 20 January 2008, Georg wrote: Hello, Since installing the latest xorg updates for OpenSuSE 10.2, some applications fail to start. One example I was able to verify is eclipse (ver. 3.2). Here is the error message: Is anyone here aware of this issue ? similar problem here: since this update IceWM icons and renderings around a window (maximize,minimize, title buttons) are scrambled with dots and lines. i reinstalled the old xorg-x11-libs-7.2-23.i586.rpm and xorg-x11-libs-7.2-23.i586.rpm and now this errors are gone on my opensuse 10.2 i586 Stefan came up with a temporary workaround in comment 36 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=345131 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: [users] How did I get this OpenOffice program?
John Shelton wrote: I am here because I would like to find out that most of my problems with Open Office are related to the learning process and perhaps not the fault of the program itself. Regardless of the problem, I am finding it very difficult to do things with Open Office that I am accustomed to doing with MS Office products. I have downloaded and printed a notebook sized tutorial that is very difficult to read and follow and understand and have yet been totally unable to find ANY tutorial (or any other help) for OO Math. I find configuring OO Writer difficult compared with Word. (i.e.: setting default fonts, page margins, inserting photo's, clip art, etc.) There is also the incompatibility issue with recipients programs when sending documents and graphics by email. From http://documentation.openoffice.org/manuals/oooauthors2/index.html http://documentation.openoffice.org/manuals/oooauthors2/0216WG-MathObjects.pdf How much of your difficulty may be because somethings are simply different and not exactly the same as you're used to. There may be some issues with various documents, because Microsoft has chosen to keep formats secret, so everyone else has to reverse engineer them. Some of these issues also occur between different generations of Microsoft Office. Also, I don't recall seeing your name before. Have you asked questions here about your difficulties? -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux?
PerfectReign wrote: On Sun, January 20, 2008 3:16 pm, Joe Sloan wrote: PerfectReign wrote: I actually see the end of Linux games here... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DirectX#DirectX_10 hmm, OK, so mickeysoft is changing one of their APIs yet again... and that relates to linux games how? I'm just suggesting that more of the balance falls to the DirectX crowd than ever before. Unless OpenGL has something competitive to this, I can't see developers choosing to port games to openSUSE or other distros. LOL, nobody has ever ported a game to opensuse, no need. Like I said, my quake 3 arena demo binary from 1999 has played just fine on every distro I've tried. What happens is top developers like John Carmack write OpenGL, and the result is automatically rather standards friendly. DX is a problem, but all problems have their solutions. I'm not throwing in the towel and I don't think anybody else here should either. Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] tarballs
John B Pace wrote: You are dealing with an older dummy here, but too old! I'm wanting to know if there is a way to install tarballs properly in Suse. To an extent each version of linux I have tried are different, but in each I have found it impossible to install a tarball.Thanks! John I've installed a few, but the method often depends on the specific tarball. Generally, you have to untar the file, and do a make and make install, though I prefer to replace make install with checkinstall, which creates an RPM file, that can be managed with Yast. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] tarballs
John B Pace wrote: You are dealing with an older dummy here, but too old! I'm wanting to know if there is a way to install tarballs properly in Suse. To an extent each version of linux I have tried are different, but in each I have found it impossible to install a tarball.Thanks! John The installation of a program from a tarball is a fairly standard drill in any linux distro, typically a few steps: tar -xvf program.tar cd program ./configure make make install If program.tar is actually program.tgz or tar.gz, or tar.bz2, then the untar command becomes tar -xzvf for gzipped files or tar -xjvf for bzip2. Having said that, it's far far better to find a proper suse package, rather than making a home-made build of some random tarball. If there's no suse package available anywhere, then of course a tarball install will work. So, what package are you trying to install, and what difficulties are you running into? Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] tarballs
You are dealing with an older dummy here, but too old! I'm wanting to know if there is a way to install tarballs properly in Suse. To an extent each version of linux I have tried are different, but in each I have found it impossible to install a tarball.Thanks! John -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: [users] How did I get this OpenOffice program?
John Shelton wrote: I was not aware of the revised tutorial that was published in mid 2007 that indeed does have at least a chapter devoted to Math. I guess I had more or less given up by then. I have been to several OOo user group forums and have not found the information that I need on a level that I can relate to and understand. I was just made aware of _this_ user group a couple of days ago and now I am here still wishing to get a grip on the product. You must understand that I am anything but a fan of Microsoft in general and my search for an alternative to Office is what brought me to OOo 3 or 4 years ago. I have the new tutorial bookmarked and I will begin perusing it and see what I can get from it. You are correct that old habits are hard to break is certainly a factor in my difficulties with OOo. Been using Office a long time. Can you give me tips to make a transition to OOo easier, other than the revised tutorial? Thank you. John Well, for starters, don't suddenly appear here attacking it, without making some attempt to ask for help. Much info can be found here: http://documentation.openoffice.org On the same link where that Math chapter is found, there is also a migration guide, along with others for Writer, Calc etc. You can also buy an OpenOffice guide book here: http://www.openoffice.blogs.com/ And you can also ask on this list. Also, OpenOffice has changed a lot in 3 -4 years. Please respond only to the mail list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and not directly to me. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] MySQL 5 rpms for SuSE 9.3?
On Saturday 19 January 2008 09:22:35 Ciro Iriarte wrote: 2008/1/17, Jonathan Ervine [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wednesday 16 January 2008 19:49:07 Michal Marek wrote: Kevin Thorpe wrote: Does anyone know where I can get mysql version 5 for SuSE 9.3? Packages for SLES9 should work fine: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/server:/database:/mysql51/S LES_9/ _might_ work fine, but also not a great option. SLES 9 is closest to SuSE Linux 9.1, so you might also find that these packages have massive dependency problems as well. Jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] tarballs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joe Sloan wrote: | John B Pace wrote: | You are dealing with an older dummy here, but too old! I'm wanting to | know if there is a way to install tarballs properly in Suse. To an | extent each version of linux I have tried are different, but in each I | have found it impossible to install a tarball.Thanks! John | | The installation of a program from a tarball is a fairly standard drill | in any linux distro, typically a few steps: | | tar -xvf program.tar | cd program | ./configure | make | make install | | If program.tar is actually program.tgz or tar.gz, or tar.bz2, then the | untar command becomes tar -xzvf for gzipped files or tar -xjvf for bzip2. | | Having said that, it's far far better to find a proper suse package, | rather than making a home-made build of some random tarball. If there's | no suse package available anywhere, then of course a tarball install | will work. | | So, what package are you trying to install, and what difficulties are | you running into? | | Joe the only problem you should run into is some dependency maybe some library you do not have installed. but it should tell you that in the output from the config script. like joe said if you find an .rpm your much better off, it includes everything you need. if its not in the suse repository check rpmfind.net or google it, chances are someone has made one somewhere. - -- Steve Reilly http://reillyblog.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHlATJ1L48K811Km0RAi9aAJ9o8jVDPCGsq0JEVM0PytKy6BxAYwCeOAQQ yH99SU7/bGOKaLmOjEELjBc= =09Em -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] MySQL 5 rpms for SuSE 9.3?
2008/1/20, Jonathan Ervine [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Saturday 19 January 2008 09:22:35 Ciro Iriarte wrote: 2008/1/17, Jonathan Ervine [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wednesday 16 January 2008 19:49:07 Michal Marek wrote: Kevin Thorpe wrote: Does anyone know where I can get mysql version 5 for SuSE 9.3? Packages for SLES9 should work fine: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/server:/database:/mysql51/S LES_9/ _might_ work fine, but also not a great option. SLES 9 is closest to SuSE Linux 9.1, so you might also find that these packages have massive dependency problems as well. Jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, i've been using the mysql-4 package from 9.3 in sles9sp3 in two of our servers without issues for a lng time Ciro -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Virtualbox versus WMware
On Monday 21 January 2008 06:23:48 Teruel de Campo MD wrote: On Sun, 2008-01-20 at 18:35 +0100, Philippe Landau wrote: Maura Edelweiss Monville wrote: Since I have to use MS Office every now and then I would consider to run alternatively Windows and SuSE through WMware. Now I run MS Office through CrossOveR. Is WMware stable and reliable ? Yes, others recommend VirtualBox though (free too). Or if it is just for that: Crossover Office, which is not free. Which one is easier to install and backup ? VM ware is a very professional virtual system. Ain't cheap. I have the workstation. I tried VirtualBox, qemu and all of them worked but nothing is comparable to VMware. I do not use or need VMware for MS office. VMware is also very easy to backup. It does everything you can think off and more. VMware comes in three options: 1. Workstation 2. Server 3. ESX Server Workstation is a fully featured desktop virtualisation program that installs on a host OS (Windows or Linux) and allows multiple guest OSs to be installed. Has multiple snapshots and VM cloning available. Has a price attached to it. Whether this is considered expensive depends though. Server is a desktop virtualisation program that is installed on Windows or Linux and that in some ways is more limited than workstation in that you can have only one snapshot and no cloning. However it does allow remote connections to be made and the VMs run without the console being open (not sure if workstation does this). Best of all, it's got no cost attached to it. ESX Server is an enterprise server virtualisation solution that installs on bare metal and you then install multiple guest OSs on top. Lots of management utilities and resource allocation per machine tools available. Also very expensive for individual users... Jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] MySQL 5 rpms for SuSE 9.3?
On Monday 21 January 2008 10:42:51 Ciro Iriarte wrote: 2008/1/20, Jonathan Ervine [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Saturday 19 January 2008 09:22:35 Ciro Iriarte wrote: 2008/1/17, Jonathan Ervine [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wednesday 16 January 2008 19:49:07 Michal Marek wrote: Kevin Thorpe wrote: Does anyone know where I can get mysql version 5 for SuSE 9.3? Packages for SLES9 should work fine: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/server:/database:/mysql 51/S LES_9/ _might_ work fine, but also not a great option. SLES 9 is closest to SuSE Linux 9.1, so you might also find that these packages have massive dependency problems as well. Well, i've been using the mysql-4 package from 9.3 in sles9sp3 in two of our servers without issues for a lng time Did you mean to type you've been using mysql-4 packages on SLES9 in an unsupported configuration/environment for a long time :-) Seriously, it might well work but YMMV as the packages weren't built for that target, and there are changes between the versions (kernel and glibc etc.). -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] KDE 4.0
I ran the live CD from openSUSE and KDE 4.0 is coming along nicely, but I noticed it's not as configurable as previous releases.no personal settings as before that, IMHO, should be there. I also couldn't find a hide feature for the taskbar. For those who use 'Bloze and might want to take a gander at openSUSE AND have nVidia video, they'll be in for a disappointment as 3D, acceleration, and desktop effects will NOT work. This is, once again, NOT good. Also, I noticed that a LOT of screen savers are missing, as are some games, etc. I assume all of these will be included when 4.0 goes GA. Fred -- Liberal ideology and political correctness, infused with public policy, begets social insanity. - Michael Savage -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Grub Error 21 (SOLVED)
Original Message From: David C. Rankin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat 19 Jan 2008 08:29:11 EST Dave Barton wrote: I have just upgraded a PC for a colleague, who, after much badgering and encouragement, conceded to have a dual boot install of OpenSUSE 10.3 8-- snip --8 Have checked the BIOS and hardware jumpers are set correctly. 8-- snip --8 Can any of you folks here help me out with this? TIA Dave Dave, Do you have a BIOS setting that allows you to set your second hard drive a bootable as well. I know you said you checked the BIOS, but it would be worth another look to see if that setting is present. I have a Gigabyte board that requires the drives to be specifically set as bootable to be able to boot from those drives. I battled on with this issue over the weekend (desperately need sleep), without any real progress. Before actually throwing in the towel, I went back over all the advice you folks have generously tried to help me with. Believing that I had done a 100% check on the BIOS settings, I must have overlooked this little gem. Today I rechecked the BIOS and located the (almost hidden) option to switch the hdd boot priority, moved the second drive to the top of the list. On reboot I was greeted with that, not very attractive, but so very welcome GRUB menu. A big THANK YOU David. I should have listened to you in the first place. Now, the really hard part will be to get my colleague to give openSUSE a fair trial. Hum! What should I use, a baseball bat, or.. ;) Regards Dave signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [opensuse] Grub Error 21 (SOLVED)
Dave Barton wrote: Original Message From: David C. Rankin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat 19 Jan 2008 08:29:11 EST Dave Barton wrote: I have just upgraded a PC for a colleague, who, after much badgering and encouragement, conceded to have a dual boot install of OpenSUSE 10.3 8-- snip --8 Have checked the BIOS and hardware jumpers are set correctly. 8-- snip --8 Can any of you folks here help me out with this? TIA Dave Dave, Do you have a BIOS setting that allows you to set your second hard drive a bootable as well. I know you said you checked the BIOS, but it would be worth another look to see if that setting is present. I have a Gigabyte board that requires the drives to be specifically set as bootable to be able to boot from those drives. I battled on with this issue over the weekend (desperately need sleep), without any real progress. Before actually throwing in the towel, I went back over all the advice you folks have generously tried to help me with. Believing that I had done a 100% check on the BIOS settings, I must have overlooked this little gem. Today I rechecked the BIOS and located the (almost hidden) option to switch the hdd boot priority, moved the second drive to the top of the list. On reboot I was greeted with that, not very attractive, but so very welcome GRUB menu. A big THANK YOU David. I should have listened to you in the first place. Now, the really hard part will be to get my colleague to give openSUSE a fair trial. Hum! What should I use, a baseball bat, or.. ;) Regards Dave Woohoo, I finally guessed right! For you colleague, with all the perseverance and dedication you showed in sticking with the install, you should explain that you would like to see the same in return on their fair trial of 10.3. We all know, but need to find a way to convey, that they will not find a more elegant or capable OS -- period. Good for you Dave, now let's see if your colleague will do their part. We build open source 1 convert at a time. -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] KDE 4.0
On Sunday 20 January 2008 11:28:22 pm Fred A. Miller wrote: I ran the live CD from openSUSE and KDE 4.0 is coming along nicely, but I noticed it's not as configurable as previous releases.no personal settings as before that, IMHO, should be there. I also couldn't find a hide feature for the taskbar. For those who use 'Bloze and might want to take a gander at openSUSE AND have nVidia video, they'll be in for a disappointment as 3D, acceleration, and desktop effects will NOT work. This is, once again, NOT good. Also, I noticed that a LOT of screen savers are missing, as are some games, etc. I assume all of these will be included when 4.0 goes GA. Fred In short, they consider version 4.0 as begin of KDE4 as 3.0 was KDE3. There is a lot of applications that should be ported, settings added. BTW, KDE4 has it's own desktop effects. More on http://en.opensuse.org/KDE4 -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux?
PerfectReign wrote: Heh - I know. I've got the young generation learning the ways of TuxRacer, X-Moto and L-Breakout. http://www.perfectreign.com/?q=node/51 That's cool, expose them while they are young! I turned my kids on to linux when they were young - My oldest son, an anthropology professor, runs suse linux on all his computers and is mickeysoft free. My youngest son does LAMP development/admin for a living. My 2 daughters both grew up to be OSX users, but still know their way around linux. Of course, my collection of SUSE manuals is getting way out of date, as evidenced by the 9.3 manuals in the bookshelf there. If they don't start shipping manuals again, I'm not sure I can be supportive. I understand there's a rather brisk aftermarket in suse linux books. Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] SuSE 10.3 troubles on my GamePC laptop
Maura Edelweiss Monville wrote: --- Philippe Landau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maura Edelweiss Monville wrote: Therefore X was messed up ... how come ? It worked fine up to the night before. I turned off the computer in the end of my working session. An update could be the culprit. I noticed that my laptop is being updated pretty frequently. When I am notified that some new patches are ready I am at a loss whether to install them or not. Maura, You can generally rely on the online updates not breaking things. I haven't followed the entire thread, but from the list, it seems that 64bit systems are more prone to an update glitch than the 32bit systems. I regularly (every few days) make sure I am completely updated with online update or zypper up and I haven't experienced any serious problems on my Toshiba laptop. I have had ATI driver problems after updates, but nothing that prevented me from using the display. The problem were with disappearing 3D acceleration, ATI driver lockups, etc. I could always use the display, but compiz, etc. would become unusable. Generally every week or so I will use software management to update all packages if newer version is available. These can be significant package updates involving 400 - 800 Meg of updates. With the exception of xorg 7.3, I haven't had any problems with these updates either. I second the good advise about waiting several days after an update is released before installing it if it is on a critical computer. You can always check the list and if there is an update problem, most likely it will be found within a day. What graphics card do you have? ATI, nVidia? Also, do you have an update source for your graphics card added as a repository? These can be problematic, especially if you have an ATI card. Good luck -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux?
On Sun, January 20, 2008 5:08 pm, Joe Sloan wrote: PerfectReign wrote: On Sun, January 20, 2008 3:16 pm, Joe Sloan wrote: PerfectReign wrote: I actually see the end of Linux games here... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DirectX#DirectX_10 hmm, OK, so mickeysoft is changing one of their APIs yet again... and that relates to linux games how? I'm just suggesting that more of the balance falls to the DirectX crowd than ever before. Unless OpenGL has something competitive to this, I can't see developers choosing to port games to openSUSE or other distros. LOL, nobody has ever ported a game to opensuse, no need. Like I said, my quake 3 arena demo binary from 1999 has played just fine on every distro I've tried. What happens is top developers like John Carmack write OpenGL, and the result is automatically rather standards friendly. DX is a problem, but all problems have their solutions. I'm not throwing in the towel and I don't think anybody else here should either. Heh - I know. I've got the young generation learning the ways of TuxRacer, X-Moto and L-Breakout. http://www.perfectreign.com/?q=node/51 Of course, my collection of SUSE manuals is getting way out of date, as evidenced by the 9.3 manuals in the bookshelf there. If they don't start shipping manuals again, I'm not sure I can be supportive. I won't even go into my serious lack of Geeko stickers -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Replacing an icon on the desktop
James Knott wrote: Stan Goodman wrote: I have on the desktop some Java programs which are displayed as generic icons. I have much better icons, or can make, much more intuitive icons for these. How must I go about replacing one for the other? Open the properties for the icon. You'll see the icon on the first tab. Click on it, to choose another. What, if anything, must I do to convert Windows or OS/2 icons for use in the Llinux desktop? IIRC, Linux uses PNG format for icons. I don't know about others. So, you'll have to convert to PNG, if Linux doesn't support what you've got. KDE can use any common image format. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Replacing an icon on the desktop
Stan Goodman wrote: On Sunday 20 January 2008 16:40:42 James Knott wrote: Stan Goodman wrote: I have on the desktop some Java programs which are displayed as generic icons. I have much better icons, or can make, much more intuitive icons for these. How must I go about replacing one for the other? Open the properties for the icon. You'll see the icon on the first tab. Click on it, to choose another. Someone else today said to MB2 (left-handed people don't talk about right click) the existing icon to do this. But that leads to the properties of the underlying file, not of the icon. You click the icon and *voila*...there's the new icon selector. At least that's how it works in KDE. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
