Trade F for FA PowerZoom?

2001-01-24 Thread Tiger Moses

Do you have the FA 100-300 Powerzoom lens, and can't take advantage of
the powerzoom features?

I have the regualr black F 100-300 Zoom, and would love to trade it
for the Powerzoom function!

If interested, let me know!

Do you have a PowerZoom lens wasting away?  Let me know!
Tiger Moses

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Re: CHEM. POISONING (was: Toxicity) (Longish, but full of memories)

2001-01-24 Thread Joseph McAllister

On 01/24/2001 14:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] opined:

>Photographers in the old days of
>19th century were known to die from too much pyro exposure (say, 40 years
>of the job, daily, without gloves, actually PUTTING HANDS INTO THE STUFF!!!
>Dumb...). I don't think you are gonna die, but maybe develop some
>dermatitis if you bath in the stuff.

When Kennedy was shot (or whenever one of our pilots was killed) the 
photographic lab at Naval Air Station Miramar, San Diego, California had 
to produce a moderate to humongus number of panchromatic and color 8 x 10 
prints in short order. The Kennedy job involved over 24 hours of printing 
from 4 x 5 dupe negatives using six enlargers. 

We took turns processing these prints, by hand, in 8 inch deep stainless 
24 by 28 trays. No gloves. 100 prints at a time. The prints were placed 
in the developer face down by one person, one at a time, two per second, 
in a slight sliding motion. As soon as the last one went in you'd have a 
stack built in the far corner of the tray. The prints were then skewed (a 
straight fan) across the tank by rapidly moving them from the bottom of 
the stack with your fingers, causing them to scoot across to the front of 
the tray. Then again to the back. 

When the time was up (8+ minutes with the dilution we were using - and 
the industry standard at the time - +68 degrees F.) the prints were taken 
out from the bottom of the stack one at a time and thrown into the stop, 
where the process was repeated once, then on to the fixer for 15 minutes.

For wash we had two 60 inch diameter, foot deep circular wash trays that 
were half in the darkroom, and half in the finishing area. The prints 
were fed into that tank where they swirled around for 30 minutes by the 
water nozzles that came in from the bottom. The drains were slots in the 
circumference a few inches from the top. Water volume was changed out 
every 7 minutes, or less. (The water would whirlpool over the sides if 
you cranked the flow up all the way!) When one tank got 200 prints in it, 
the next two batches went in the second. We then had to wait to soup any 
more until the prints were taken out by finishing, though on several 
occassions we tried storing the prints from the hypo into 65 gallon 
stainless portable chem mix tanks filled by slowly running water.

The chemicals were replaced every hour or so (you could tell by the feel 
in the stop and fix) or 1500 prints, even though we had a crude 
replenishment system.

Now I figure, the stop bath neutralized the developer, and fix was mostly 
washed off in getting the prints into the wash. I usually leaned over 
into the wash tank with my arms out and let the water go up over my 
biceps. After that, our hands were washed with Neutragena and dried to 
get ready for the next batch. Never had a problem. The only thing that 
could be remotely connected is that my hands do tend to get dry and if I 
don't use a hand cream after a shower or doing the dishes, I will get 
hard dry skin on the sides my fingernails that tends to get caught on 
clothing and stuff, sometimes (if I pick at it) it will bleed for a bit. 
I try to trim the dry skin with a nail clipper to stay ahead of it as it 
sticks up.  But I think (never asked) that everyone has this problem, 
chemicals or not.

I worked in that lab for a year before I went out on the carrier Bon 
Homme Richard to Vietnam, then for 6 months more when I got back. Then 
college in San Francisco, where I spent a lot of time in my b&w darkroom, 
had a night job in a custom color lab, and was partners in a commercial 
studio. Got my BFA in Photography in 1970, then ended up in Phoenix, 
running a lab out of the bathroom and living room of a motel suite for a 
year, shooting Barbizon model wannabees at the rate of 16 a week, and 
cranking out their portfolios. Three years off from darkroom work, then 
12 years around Washington D.C. working for the man, including several 
one year stints in chem mix, also up to my elbows in solutions, breathing 
dust from pouring dry chemicals from 40 pound bags and 60 pound fiber 
drums into nalgene drums we used to put in the hoist that lifted the 
stuff up and dumped their contents into the  2500 and 1500 liter custom 
screw pumped tanks. Spent some of that time (1/3) in chem analysis, 
testing mixes, films, effluent, water, triple distilling our own water to 
use for cooling electronics (H2O does not conduct electricity if pure), 
shipping 500 pounds of silver back to Kodak per month, and enjoying life!

Anyone else have similar experiences they can relate?


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OT: A head for a monopod?

2001-01-24 Thread dosk

Can one operate effectively with the camera screwed directly onto the top of
a monopod, or would this be too rigid and awkward? (As I suspect...)
And if this is not a good idea, then what would some of you recommend as a
head for a monopod? Right now I'm thinking I'd like a ball head rather than
a pan because of the compactness of size. This head would probably be
strictly for the monopod and would not be switched to a tripod, so I don't
want anything too elaborate.
Can someone recommend a ball that they're using now with good results?
(Something around $60 max please, and less is even better...)
Verblon has a magnesium lightweight (but supposedly strong) ball head that's
selling for around $59. Any experiences with this?
Thanks guys,
Skip




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Re: Pentax AF 100 mm f3.5 micro

2001-01-24 Thread SETH

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Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: Pentax AF 100 mm f3.5 micro


> I believe that, unlike the similar-looking Vivitar and
> other models, the Pentax one has full SMC coating, and its colour
> performance seems to match my other Pentax lenses.

The original Cosina as well as Vivitar and Phoenix are also
multicoated.  But that brings up a question.  How much of difference
is there between Pentax SMC and multicoating on other modern lenses?
The original SMC patent must have expired by now and anyone is free
to use it.  And anyway many manufacturers like Nikon and Zeiss
licensed it back in the 70's.  Pentax claims that SMC reduces loss
of light transmission to 0.2%-0.3% compared to 5% for non-coated and
2% for single-coated lenses .  How does multicoating on non-Pentax
lenses perform?

Of course this is more critical on complex zoom lenses than would be
on this 5 element lens.



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Re: Who here uses a monopod?

2001-01-24 Thread David A. Mann

Dan Scott writes:

> I've been considering this, since is the type of photo I seem to be doing
> mostly. What is the hassle factor with adjusting the pod for height? I
> guess I'm thinking primarily about insects and other quick moving things.
> How does it work out, do you carry it around with camera attached and pod
> extended or collapsed or what?

 I usually carry it with one section extended which makes it tall enough for 
me to crouch on one knee, or two sections which is just below "standing" 
level.  Flowers don't move very quickly so adjusting the height is not a 
problem.  Most of my adjustments only involve one leg-section so its pretty 
quick to change.

 I find the most annoying thing is adjusting the ball head, although I can tilt 
the whole monopod a little when necessary.

 For anything that moves fast I either chase it with a handheld rig or just do 
my best not to scare it off.  Unfortunately going handheld tends to limit me to 
400-speed film which tends to get a bit grainy for my liking.

Cheers,


- Dave

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Re: Toxicity city

2001-01-24 Thread Ann Sanfedele



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> (snip)
> BTW, on toxicity, I discovered at home a bottle of maximum purity Glacial
> acetic acid (99.5%) ... should I pour it into water or water into acid ;) ?
> I just can't get myself to remember it right... Well, if I stop responding
> to list, I have done it the wrong way...
>
> Frantisek _Vlcek_ (which means _little wolf_ canis lupus minor ;)
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Re: OT:Tamron 90/2.8 macro as a Portrait lens

2001-01-24 Thread Tiger Moses

I have only had it since Monday
and have only used it for one roll of film

but I got a good feeling about this one!
Very fine lens, feels good, moves good, awesome Macro capability when 1:1
talk to Pentax bodies very well (LED Readouts)

$50 rebate if you buy before the end of month I think!!!

If you are concerned about 85 vs 90, that shouldn't bother you.
its seems to be a 'bright' 2.8f also

I like the weight and I like the focus restriction/limit feature

You can limit it to regular (non-macro) or macro (not distant) so when its
searching for focus, its doesn't go from End to End.
The lens can disengage its focus ring so that it doesn't move at all in
AutoFocus
mode, I like that.  

The weight makes it feel very solid.  Color rendition is fabulous.  TAK sharp!

At 10:01 PM 1/24/2001 -0800, you wrote:
>Does anybody own this lens? I'd like to know how it
>would perform as a portrait lens since the Pentax 85
>is so expensive. Can anybody elaborate on that?
>Herbet.  
>
Tiger Moses

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Re:Have you ever shot at or above 1/2000th sec and what were the circumstances?

2001-01-24 Thread David A. Mann

Mafud surveys:

> Q: Have you *ever* had an occasion to shoot at or above 1/2000th sec. shutter
> speed? What were the circumstances?

 I have on occasion.  Usually when doing a macro shot of something bright 
near wide-open with 400-speed film.  I think the fastest I've shot is 1/4000th.

> Q: What's the fastest (box rated) film you've ever shot?
> For me? Konica SR-G3200.

 Superia 800.  I once took a couple of shots deliberately underexposing it by 
two stops, if that counts :)

> What's the slowest? 
> Me? KODAK Gold (RG) ISO 25.

 RG25 here, too.  I only ever had one roll.

Cheers,


- Dave

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Re: Toxicity city

2001-01-24 Thread Joseph McAllister

On 01/24/2001 11:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] opined:

>
>BTW, on toxicity, I discovered at home a bottle of maximum purity Glacial
>acetic acid (99.5%) ... should I pour it into water or water into acid ;) ?
>I just can't get myself to remember it right... Well, if I stop responding
>to list, I have done it the wrong way...


The way to remember is  "AAA"   "Always Add Acid"


JoMac, Imagineer with Camera


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Re: The Blackest Black

2001-01-24 Thread Joseph McAllister

Unlit Black Velvet, like in an Elvis Painting.

On 01/24/2001 11:48, Norman Baugher opined:

>Valentin's cave? 
>Norm
>
>From: Shel Belinkoff 
>> but what have you found that gives you the blackest
>> background under most, if not all, lighting conditions? 



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Re: Re[2]: Develop Film in Coffee (was Re: Toxicity)

2001-01-24 Thread bc



On 24 Jan 2001, at 11:01, Alin Flaider wrote:

>  Hmm...20 minutes to develop a print in coffee?


Yes, but how long to develop that same print in beer?   :-P
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Re: Pentax AF330FTZ vs Metz 32 MZ-3

2001-01-24 Thread bc



On 24 Jan 2001, at 19:52, Alan Chan wrote:

> >I've recently posted an email to pl.rec.foto newsgroup asking what
> >flash would be recommended for a newbie Pentax MZ-5n user like me. I
> >got two kinds of responses:
> >
> >1. Buy Metz 32 MZ-3 - very good performance / price factor, bounce,
> >swivel, etc.
> >
> >2. Pentax AF330FTZ - it's Pentax, and it has convinient LCD with lots
> >of info.
> >
> >My question is - of these two, which one you'd recommend? Or maybe
> >there's another?

I have th 40MZ2 from Metz.  Love it.  A bit more power than the
32MZ-3 but feature wise, thats about it.  Also, on the "Plus" side
of the Metz, you can also buy a TTL-Extension cable and a handle
grip for it, making it really easy to use off the camera.  And if you
have another type of system (MF or heaven forbit, C or N),
you don't have to purchase a second flash - just a different adapter.

My 2 bits.

Cheers!
Brian
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Re: OT: (Somewhat) Is this true for you?

2001-01-24 Thread dosk

Hey, I didn't even think of taking VF magnification into account... (Learn
something new from this list alla' time...)
I agree with what you're saying here, and I think the fact that when I also
concentrate on something I see it in aprox 100mm, this is what contributes
to an easier sense of composition for me
Skip



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Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: OT: (Somewhat) Is this true for you?


> If you mean a 1:1 viewfinder image, yes it does vary with
> viewfinder magnification.  That is why many of the old SLRs had
> 55-58mm normal lenses, with the vf magnification they had that
> gave a 1:1 magnification. They thought that photographers would
> want to use the camera with both eyes open.
>
> However, I find that when I concentrate on something I see
> approximately the same angle of view that I do with a 100mm
> lens.  If I am not concentrating I have a 20-21mm view with both
> eyes.  This is different than a preference for what you like and
> are used to which is what I think you are talking about.
> --Tom
>
>
> dave o'brien wrote:
>
> > Doesn't the 'normality' of the lens depend on the magnification of the
> > viewfinder?
> >
> > Personally, I find 100mm a very nice focal length, but sometimes
> > normal for me is a 20mm (especially if I'm outdoors).
>
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OT:Tamron 90/2.8 macro as a Portrait lens

2001-01-24 Thread herbet brasileiro

Does anybody own this lens? I'd like to know how it
would perform as a portrait lens since the Pentax 85
is so expensive. Can anybody elaborate on that?
Herbet.  

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Re: "We Justify Anything Photographic, No Matter How Useless"

2001-01-24 Thread Joseph McAllister

On 01/24/2001 06:05, Shel Belinkoff opined:

>Mike Johnston wrote:
>
>> Three handy, all-purpose reasons for 
>> you to have bought your new used Gossen:
>
>> € What if your old light meter breaks? What then? Well?
>
>It is reported that Brett Weston asked, "Why should I use a
>meter? What if the darn thing broke on me when I was out making
>a photograph?  Then what would I do?"
>
>So, Mike has the answer, carry two meters.  But what if the
>second one broke?

If you learned photography with a 4 x 5 field camera, or Spotmatic with a 
broken meter, your backup would be your mind's eye.

Seriously, when I was shooting every day in San Francisco, on location 
and in the studio, I found that a meter was redundant unless I was 
shooting to the Zone System, because my mind's solution was always right 
on with the meter. So I stopped using them. My mind's system was to start 
with the "sunny sixteen" and factor in or out exposure based on 
conditions, with a minor fudge factor thrown in based on experience with 
similar situations.

Unfortunately, I no longer have the confidence to shoot slides that way, 
but I still do with B&W and Color Negative, if I have to.



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Re: Cable Switch F

2001-01-24 Thread dosk

Not much savings here. The price is already bid up to $29 with mucho time
left to go...
Hell, B+H sells 'em new for $29, plus shipping.
Skip


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Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 9:26 AM
Subject: Cable Switch F


> Spotted on eBay with two days left.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1209094409
>
>
>
>
> Later,
> Gary
>
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RE: OT: Ebay insanity

2001-01-24 Thread Jeff Tsai
Glad to see it's not only the case here in Japan. Quite often, you'll find
people on Yahoo Auctions bidding close to 90% of the price of a new item
which doesn't make a lot of sense to me since that 10% would buy a lot of
peace of mind knowing that the item is brand new and under warranty...

For example, the Canon D30 sells for about JPY265,000 (after discount) and a
unit was picked up for JPY250,000 last night. Personally, I'd pay the extra
JPY150,000 (US$140) to know that I've got a unit in brand new condition...

Cheers,

Jeff

> -Original Message-
> From: Tom Rittenhouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 1:00 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: OT: Ebay insanity
> 
> 
>  Wow!  People are bidding more than they can get items for new. 
> Bidding big bucks for things that don't even work.  Some of the
> sellers want more for shipping and handling than the item they
> are selling is worth.  I mean what kind of idiot would buy
> something for 4 or 5 bucks and pay $25 shipping?  
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Re: The Blackest Black

2001-01-24 Thread Bob Blakely

Well, almost any good black will do, provided it is not glossy. William
(surrounded by the great Canadian white and contemplating a lump of coal)
suggested what is probably a very good product. Black velvet or felt
designed for this function (I know it exists, because I saw it on a film
set) has always been good. No light should shine directly on the black that
is in the frame (panels on light sources). If the light must shine on the
black (front lighting) the black should be as far back as possible with the
light sources as close to the subject as possible consistent with the
lighting effect you want to achieve. Do not overexpose. It's best if
controlled subject lighting is the only lighting (no room or window light).

Regards,
Bob...

Give blood. Play hockey.

From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> Savage makes a background paper that pretty much sucks up all
> the light in the room. I think they call it Ultra black or Super
> black or some such
> William Robb

> From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > I've been experimenting with a few black backgrounds - cloth,
> > velvet, flat black paint, an old towel, and a blanket.
> > Depending on the light, some are good for Zone 0 some of the
> > time, others are not so good at any time.  Of course, a lot
> has
> > to do with the light and the range between the subject and the
> > background, but what have you found that gives you the
> blackest
> > background under most, if not all, lighting conditions?  Maybe
> > there's something you've tried that I've not, and with which
> I'm
> > not familiar.


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Re: Toxicity city

2001-01-24 Thread Bob Blakely

Lake Erie is toxic.

Regards,
Bob...

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From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: Toxicity city


> 
> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: January 24, 2001 1:17 PM
> Subject: Re: Toxicity city
> 
> 
> > At 00:51 23.1.2001 -0500, you wrote:
> > >Ok, wolfman, will coffee work for developing prints as well?
> should I use
> > green or
> > >dark roast?
> 
> A few years ago, a student at Ryerson Polytechnical Institute in
> Toronto got a jug of lakewater from the shore of lake Erie and
> processed a roll of Tri-X in it. Apparently it took about 24
> hours to develop. I saw a magazine print from the experiment,
> and thought he should have given it another day or so in the
> tank.
> William Robb
> > >
> > >Yours in health,
> > >nurse annsan
> 
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Re: MZ3 vs. MZ5n

2001-01-24 Thread Bucky

And ALWAYS negotiate price with these guys.  In my experience (having been
there several times now) they are about 30% high on most stuff, compared
with what I'd expect if I shopped around a bit.  For instance, they wanted
$950 for an LX body that was in good, but not excellent, shape.  I know,
that's more than 30% high, but this is just one example.  They do negotiate
price to where it is at least reasonable.

Mike
Vancouver, Canada


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>   Try www.vintagevisuals.com  located in Calgary, Alberta. Usually an
> excellent choice of used Pentax equipment very fairly rated with excellent
> shipping wordwide.
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Re: The Blackest Black

2001-01-24 Thread Shel Belinkoff

Chris Brogden wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, William Robb wrote:
> 
> > Savage makes a background paper that pretty much sucks up all
> > the light in the room. I think they call it Ultra black or Super
> > black or some such
> > William Robb
> 
> Savage has some fun shades, like "canary."
> "Which colour is that?"
> "That?  Savage canary."

Hi Bill, Chris  ... thanks for the heads up for Savage paper.  I
just found their web site and it looks as though they may have 
a couple of items that will work.
Their "Majestic Mauve" sounds quite exciting.

-- 
Shel Belinkoff
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and a great photograph is subtleties."
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Re: The Blackest Black

2001-01-24 Thread Chris Brogden

On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, William Robb wrote:

> Savage makes a background paper that pretty much sucks up all
> the light in the room. I think they call it Ultra black or Super
> black or some such
> William Robb

Savage has some fun shades, like "canary."
"Which colour is that?"
"That?  Savage canary."

chris

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Re: Re[2]: Sigma 400mm f/5.6 APO MF lens for Pentax Ka mount

2001-01-24 Thread Paul Jones

Thanks for that.


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From: "Takehiko Ueda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 3:27 PM
Subject: Re[2]: Sigma 400mm f/5.6 APO MF lens for Pentax Ka mount


> From SIGMA America Web site:
> http://www.sigma-photo.com/html/faqs.htm
> 
> Apochromatic lenses are telephoto and telezoom type lenses
>  which use special optical designs and optical materials
> (SLD) to improve their performance. The result is images
> which have greater contrast, sharpness and color
> definition than a comparable non-APO type lens . All Sigma
>  apochromatic lenses are identified by the APO designation
>  in their descriptions. Please see the Lens Chart for this
>  and other specific lens information.
> 
> 
> 
> Take Ueda, Osaka, Japan
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: MZ3 vs. MZ5n

2001-01-24 Thread Shel Belinkoff

Paul Jones asked:

> Is there any online camera stores 
> based in Canada? similar to KEHor B&H.

I believe Henry's in Toronto was mentioned, and I just had a
nice, pleasant buying experience with Dunne and Rundle Photo in
Vancouver.  I dealt with Jack at the Granville store. 
http://www.dunneandrundle.com/

Bill mentioned Chris at Don's Photo.  I don't know if Don's has
a web site,  but heck, Chris is here every day.   I've made a
purchase or two from Chris, and it,  too, was a very pleasant
experience.  I've also bought from Don's -but not Chris' store -
and was very happy with the service, price, and the quality of
the goods.

My experience with Henry's has been through eBay, but when
talking with the store people I was impressed by their pleasant
demeanor and the fact that, on my second purchase, almost two
months later, the woman I spoke with remembered me.

-- 
Shel Belinkoff
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and a great photograph is subtleties."
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Re: FA24-90 f3.5-4.5AL

2001-01-24 Thread Alan Chan

So it is not an ED lens afterall.

regards,
Alan Chan

>I found the PENTAX JAPAN's press release of FA24-90, dated
>19th January, 2001.
>
>The spec is as follows;
>
>Construction: 13 elements in 11 groups
>Angle of View: 84-27 degrees
>Minimum Aperture: f22/32
>Closest Focus Distance: 0.5m
>Filter Thread Size: 67mm
>Max Magnification Ratio: 0.18X
>Size: 72mm in diameter, 74.5mm in length
>Weight: 355g
>
>It comes with a tulip hood, with a "window" for adjusting
>a filter.  The image is here.
>http://www.pentax.co.jp/japan/news/2001/gif/200102.gif
>
>They manufacture 5000 a month, and the release date is
>still vague, by the end of this month.  The price is
>JP\59,000.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>
>Take Ueda, Osaka, Japan
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>http://members.tripod.co.jp/hayatama/photo/

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Re: Sigma 400mm f/5.6 APO MF lens for Pentax Ka mount

2001-01-24 Thread Paul Jones

What does the APO stand for?


- Original Message -
From: "dave o'brien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: Sigma 400mm f/5.6 APO MF lens for Pentax Ka mount


> A scroll of mail from "Greg & Polly  Wiseman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Read it? y
> >I am looking for a lens (fixed or zoom) which reaches 400mm.  I see Ebay
has
> >a Sigma 400mm f/5.6 APO manual focus lens for Pentax ( I have ZX-5N) on
item
> ># 1209610088.  Do any of you have this lens or at least an opinion of its
> >value and quality.  I have not been able to find any info on the www.
about
> >it.
>
> I've just acquired one of these.  Although I've only had a few
> pictures taken with it developed, it seems to have nice bokeh and is
> relatively easy to focus on my Z-1p.  It's quite difficult to focus on
> my MX, but it is quite dark, and I find focussing with dark lenses
> difficult on that anyway.  Just played with it on my MZ-5 and it works
> fine, in-focus indicator beeps.
>
> It's quite a light lens for a big telephoto, although I'm judging it
> against an FA*80-200 f2.8 which weighs about 1.5kg.  It seems to be
> about the same length as that and takes the same filter size (72mm).
>
> It's nicely balanced, and mine has a tripod mount on the lens which
> can rotate freely around 360 degrees.
>
> My only real complaint with it is the close focussing distance - 4
> metres - is a hindrance sometimes, especially indoors.  Most of my
> other big lenses have some sort of close focus:
>
> 500mm f8 - 1:2 macro, which I guess is about a metre.
> FA* 80-200 f2.8 - 1.4m
> Sigma 100-300 - 0.95m
>
> I paid HKD1100 for mine, about USD140, but that was secondhand.
>
> hope this is useful,
> dave
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Re: "Pentax" name - why?

2001-01-24 Thread Alan Chan

>In 1953, Asahi came out with it's Asahiflex 35mm slr, which had a waist 
>level
>viewfinder.  In 1957, Asahi introduced it's first slr with a penta-prism.
>"Pentax" is a combination of Asahiflex and penta-prism (or should I say
>"penta-prism" and "Asahiflex").

If that's true, then Pentax p&s compacts should not be called Pentax at all. 
8-)

regards,
Alan Chan

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FA24-90 f3.5-4.5AL

2001-01-24 Thread Takehiko Ueda

Hi all,

I found the PENTAX JAPAN's press release of FA24-90, dated
19th January, 2001.

The spec is as follows;

Construction: 13 elements in 11 groups
Angle of View: 84-27 degrees
Minimum Aperture: f22/32
Closest Focus Distance: 0.5m
Filter Thread Size: 67mm
Max Magnification Ratio: 0.18X
Size: 72mm in diameter, 74.5mm in length
Weight: 355g

It comes with a tulip hood, with a "window" for adjusting
a filter.  The image is here.
http://www.pentax.co.jp/japan/news/2001/gif/200102.gif

They manufacture 5000 a month, and the release date is
still vague, by the end of this month.  The price is
JP\59,000.

Sincerely,


Take Ueda, Osaka, Japan
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.tripod.co.jp/hayatama/photo/

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OT: Re: 20 mm F/4 lens

2001-01-24 Thread Gerald Cermak

Barry Meyers-Rice signs his email:

> Associate Scientist
> Wildland Invasive Species Program

Would those be humans?  :)



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Good luck with KEH

2001-01-24 Thread Pdgsurvey
I have also had very good experiences with KEH.  I like to believe that I'm 
an informed consumer, and with the help of this list, I have purchased a 
number of lenses and an SF-10, for a specific purpose series of photos, that 
have been in al least as good or better than condition as described for 
rather reasonable prices.

Just recently purchased two lenses to replace some that were stolen.  They 
arrived today and have lived up to my expectations.

Thanks to the list and KEH

Paul Gutkowski


Re: 20 mm F/4 lens

2001-01-24 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda

Barry Meyers-Rice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hey Folks,
> 
>I've got a sigma 24 mm lens that, I'm concluding, is something of a
>flare-machine. I'm toying with getting a 20 mm F4 Pentax (the one with a
>49 mm filter diameter, not the older 58 mm filter).
> 
>Anyone have this lens and have comments on it?

Hi Barry,
The following is my answer to a similar question made on the former PDML some
time ago:

"I bought my KM 20mm f/4 on june, while waiting to have the money to buy the
20-35/4. I do not use it very often due to its aperture (I tend to prefer
something faster) but I think it is a good lens. The sharpness is great in
the
center, but it tends to be rather soft towards the corners when wide open
(the
corners do not satisfy me much but I haven't done any serious test).
It has a noticeable light fall-off @ f/4 that disappears when closed around
f/8.
It is a nice lens for its weight and size. I payed something like 170 USD
(380.000 LIT), quite expensive for a very used one but it was the only 20mm
Pentax I'd ever put the hands on..."

Hope this helps.

Gianfranco



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Re: Toxicity city

2001-01-24 Thread Cy Galley

>From my High School Chemistry...
There he lies cold and placid.
He poured water in the acid.

Death and taxes are inevitable; at least death doesn't get worse every year.

- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: Toxicity city


> At 00:51 23.1.2001 -0500, you wrote:
> >Ok, wolfman, will coffee work for developing prints as well?  should I
use
> green or
> >dark roast?
> >
> >Yours in health,
> >nurse annsan
>
> Ann, I am sorry but I refrain from drinking coffee. Gives me stomach burns
> and high pressure ;-)
> Seriously, I (as I mentioned at the end of my post) only read about coffee
> developer, and the article bt Tony McLean mentioned nothing about prints.
> Most propably yes, but at tooo long times. I would certainly sip the
coffee
> off the tray to stay awake ;)
>
> BTW, on toxicity, I discovered at home a bottle of maximum purity Glacial
> acetic acid (99.5%) ... should I pour it into water or water into acid ;)
?
> I just can't get myself to remember it right... Well, if I stop responding
> to list, I have done it the wrong way...
>
> Frantisek _Vlcek_ (which means _little wolf_ canis lupus minor ;)
>
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Re: 200-F4 + OT comment

2001-01-24 Thread Mike Johnston


> Besides it seems to me it is often taught to english speaking people to
> write short sentences while here is the opposite.


Flavio,
I'm a magazine editor, and we circulate edited manuscripts in my office as
part of the production procedure. Occasionally I will get the ms. back with
the mark "LS" for long sentence. (Meaning it's something wrong and ought to
be fixed). 

--Mike

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Re: Have you ever shot at or above 1/2000th sec and what were the circumstances?

2001-01-24 Thread Robert P. VanNatta

I've never gone over 1/2k because that is as fast as my camera goes.
I regularly use 800 film,  because I live in the deep forest and even out door
shots can be at quite low light levels.   Wild life photos often present a choice

of hand holding a 500mm shot in poor light or not taking a photo, and faster
film gives you a chance to get the pic before the subject runs out of the photo.

LIkewise 800 flim can push the upper limits of a classic camera in the brightest
of sunny conditions, although I have never found 1/2k in adequate.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hello All.
>
> Q: Have you *ever* had an occasion to shoot at or above 1/2000th sec. shutter
> speed? What were the circumstances?
>
> Asking because not many shooters (other than those crazy B&W shooters who
> frequently shoot at 6400 ISO), shoot anything faster than ISO 100 film.
>
> Q: What's the fastest (box rated) film you've ever shot?
> For me? Konica SR-G3200.
>
> What's the slowest?
> Me? KODAK Gold (RG) ISO 25.
>
> Mafud
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Re: "We Justify Anything Photographic, No Matter How Useless"

2001-01-24 Thread Mike Johnston



> It is reported that Brett Weston asked, "Why should I use a
> meter? What if the darn thing broke on me when I was out making
> a photograph?  Then what would I do?"
> 
> So, Mike has the answer, carry two meters.  But what if the
> second one broke?
> 
> - -- 
> Shel Belinkoff



Shel, you're getting the hang of this. 

--Mike (Lens Purchase Enablers Anonymous)

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Re: "Pentax" name - why?

2001-01-24 Thread Steve Larson

I thought it was "pentaprism" and "reflex"?
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California
- Original Message -
From: "Frank Theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 5:24 PM
Subject: Re: "Pentax" name - why?


> In 1953, Asahi came out with it's Asahiflex 35mm slr, which had a waist
level
> viewfinder.  In 1957, Asahi introduced it's first slr with a penta-prism.
> "Pentax" is a combination of Asahiflex and penta-prism (or should I say
> "penta-prism" and "Asahiflex").
>
> regards,
> frank
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > I can't find how Pentax named their line... Pentax. When was it first
used?
> > It seems to me to be an abbrev. of Pentaprism Contax, the famous Carl
Zeiss
> > pentaprism camera (which gave name to Pentacon made by Carl Zeiss Jena
> > affiliated company, which invented the M42 mount - PENTAprism CONtax).
So
> > did Pentax just "steal" Pentacon's name idea, or is there some other
word
> > behind it? Just curious, sorry ;)
> >
> > Frantisek
> >
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Re: MZ-S release

2001-01-24 Thread John Glover

I was in a local camera store todayjust could not resist the used FA 28-105 
sitting there so all alone! 

The local Pentax rep was in the store speaking with the staff, and I heard him talking 
about the new MZ-S, which he was calling the Z-1 to the store's staff.  According to 
this rep (Chicago area), the new Z-1 is set for release here in Chicago in July, with 
the new 6 megapixel digital body to follow soon after, but no date for it yet. He also 
said the 31mm Limited would be around by then as well as three more rumored lenses. I 
quizzed him on the 24-90, but he had not heard of that, or at least he played dumb!

But, he did say the PZ-1p has been official discontinued and is no longer in 
production, and that Pentax is no even contemplating filling backorders for the PZ-1p 
at this time.

Again, take it for what it's worth, but at least it was sort of official...

John

PS - He did tell me he saw an absolutely MINT Spotmatic F in the used case at Shutan 
Camera in Vernon Hills, IL, in case anyone is interested...




- Original Message - 
From: "Pål Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 12:48 PM
Subject: MZ-S release


> Mike wrote:
> 
> "Can you point us to any websites or additional pictures on the web of the
> new Pentax MZ-S? I'm still eager to hear several specifications, namely:
> 
> [snip]
> --viewfinder coverage"
> 
> REPLY:
> I've been told that viewfinder  coverage is 98%. Take it with a grain of salt 
>though...
> 
> 
> 
> Takeshita wrote: 
> 
> "I'll continue to search for the information on MZ-S and
> 31mm Ltd.  And I'm checking PENTAX JAPAN's web site
> every day for a new press release."
> 
> 
> REPLY:
> 
> The MZ-S will be shown at PMA in February, almost certainly in finalized form. If 
>we're lucky, press releases may emerge even before that in Japan. 
> 
> 
> Pål
> 
> 
> 
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RE: MZ-S release

2001-01-24 Thread Jeff Tsai

Not to mention that the print ads are subtly changing in the Japanese photo
mags; the last time I saw the ads, only the outline and the "Pentax" logo
were visible overshadowing their current product line. Now, you can see down
past the shutter button...

Cheers,

Jeff

> -Original Message-
> From: John Glover [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 10:53 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: MZ-S release
> 
> 
> I was in a local camera store todayjust could not 
> resist the used FA 28-105 sitting there so all alone! 
> 
> The local Pentax rep was in the store speaking with the 
> staff, and I heard him talking about the new MZ-S, which he 
> was calling the Z-1 to the store's staff.  According to this 
> rep (Chicago area), the new Z-1 is set for release here in 
> Chicago in July, with the new 6 megapixel digital body to 
> follow soon after, but no date for it yet. He also said the 
> 31mm Limited would be around by then as well as three more 
> rumored lenses. I quizzed him on the 24-90, but he had not 
> heard of that, or at least he played dumb!
> 
> But, he did say the PZ-1p has been official discontinued and 
> is no longer in production, and that Pentax is no even 
> contemplating filling backorders for the PZ-1p at this time.
> 
> Again, take it for what it's worth, but at least it was sort 
> of official...
> 
> John
> 
> PS - He did tell me he saw an absolutely MINT Spotmatic F in 
> the used case at Shutan Camera in Vernon Hills, IL, in case 
> anyone is interested...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Pål Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 12:48 PM
> Subject: MZ-S release
> 
> 
> > Mike wrote:
> > 
> > "Can you point us to any websites or additional pictures on 
> the web of the
> > new Pentax MZ-S? I'm still eager to hear several 
> specifications, namely:
> > 
> > [snip]
> > --viewfinder coverage"
> > 
> > REPLY:
> > I've been told that viewfinder  coverage is 98%. Take it 
> with a grain of salt though...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Takeshita wrote: 
> > 
> > "I'll continue to search for the information on MZ-S and
> > 31mm Ltd.  And I'm checking PENTAX JAPAN's web site
> > every day for a new press release."
> > 
> > 
> > REPLY:
> > 
> > The MZ-S will be shown at PMA in February, almost certainly 
> in finalized form. If we're lucky, press releases may emerge 
> even before that in Japan. 
> > 
> > 
> > Pål
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: PZ-1P & Pentax "M" Lenses ?

2001-01-24 Thread John Glover

Well, I have no way to test it but the wording in my previous statement was from my 
manualhowever as I have no M series lenses, I could not verify this...perhaps it 
is a bad translation from the Japanese in the manual.

John

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From: "Gerald Wang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: PZ-1P & Pentax "M" Lenses ?


> On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, John Glover wrote:
> > > 2) Does the spot metering mode work well with M lenses?
> > 
> > Yes, spot metering and center weighted should work with the M series
> > lenses...the multi segment metering should work as well. My PZ-1p manual
> > states that for lenses made earlier than the M series (without
> > information contacts), only the center weighted and spot metering will
> > function. So, based on that, the M series should work in all metering
> > modes. 
> 
> Actually, multi-segment metering will not work with M-series lenses as
> they do not have the required information contacts.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Gerald
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Re: PZ-1P & Pentax "M" Lenses ?

2001-01-24 Thread Rfsindg

Gerald,

I think your right.  This is how my PZ-1 works.  You must have an A or newer 
lens to get spot metering.

Regards,  Bob S.

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 they do not have the required information contacts.
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Re: 20 mm F/4 lens

2001-01-24 Thread Rfsindg

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< I've got a sigma 24 mm lens that, I'm concluding, is something of a
 flare-machine. I'm toying with getting a 20 mm F4 Pentax (the one with a
 49 mm filter diameter, not the older 58 mm filter). >>

Barry,

You'll love the size and portability of this lens, plus the coverage in the 
viewfinder is very different than the 24mm.  I haven't had mine out for 
serious optical tests, but it is fantastic for getting into tight interiors.  
The size and weight are something else.  It always goes into the bag because 
it is so small.  I have taken to toting a 35-105A zoom as a 'walk around' 
lens with the 20mm and a 135mm in the bag.  I know that I won't get wider 
than this!

Regards,  Bob S.
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Re: The Blackest Black

2001-01-24 Thread D. Glenn Arthur Jr.

Norman Baugher responded to:
> Shel Belinkoff asked:
> > but what have you found that gives you the blackest
> > background under most, if not all, lighting conditions?  
> Valentin's cave? 

Actually, that brings up an interesting, though not always
feasible, point:  Any background too far away to reflect 
your flash, in a really dark location.  For my PUG self
portrait, I used the light grey building across the street
as my backdrop -- chosen for being far enough away not to
count.

-- Glenn

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Re: Balck MZ-3/43mm Limited Package

2001-01-24 Thread Shel Belinkoff

Collin Brendemuehl wrote:
> 
> Shel:  The only person on earth who thinks

It may be fine equipment -  indeed, I feel it is - but it works
just like my P&S camera in that I point it, and shoot it, and
the camera handles all the other functions, like focusing,
choosing the aperture or shutter speed.  So, although it can do
more than a typical P&S, it's also a very nice point and shoot
camera, which is how I'd use most, if not all, of the time.

I purchased a 43mm Ltd a while ago, and now I'm keeping an eye
out for a good deal on ZX-5n (MZ-5n?) or the MZ-3.
-- 
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Re: "Pentax" name - why?

2001-01-24 Thread Frank Theriault

In 1953, Asahi came out with it's Asahiflex 35mm slr, which had a waist level
viewfinder.  In 1957, Asahi introduced it's first slr with a penta-prism.
"Pentax" is a combination of Asahiflex and penta-prism (or should I say
"penta-prism" and "Asahiflex").

regards,
frank

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I can't find how Pentax named their line... Pentax. When was it first used?
> It seems to me to be an abbrev. of Pentaprism Contax, the famous Carl Zeiss
> pentaprism camera (which gave name to Pentacon made by Carl Zeiss Jena
> affiliated company, which invented the M42 mount - PENTAprism CONtax). So
> did Pentax just "steal" Pentacon's name idea, or is there some other word
> behind it? Just curious, sorry ;)
>
> Frantisek
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Re: The Blackest Black

2001-01-24 Thread Shel Belinkoff

"D. Glenn Arthur Jr." wrote:

> Actually, that brings up an interesting, though not always
> feasible, point:  Any background too far away to reflect
> your flash, in a really dark location.  For my PUG self
> portrait, I used the light grey building across the street
> as my backdrop -- chosen for being far enough away not to
> count.

BINGO!  I just rediscovered something similar this afternoon. 
Thanks for bringing it up, as it does allow for some interesting
and creative possibilities, although I'm still seeking the
"blackest black" for other situations.
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Re: Have you ever shot at or above 1/2000th sec and what were the circumstances?

2001-01-24 Thread Shel Belinkoff

Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> >
> > What's the slowest?
> > Me? KODAK Gold (RG) ISO 25.
> 
> Well, the slowest rated films have been Tech Pan, Agfa APX 25,
> Panatomic-X.  However, I sometimes shoot APX 25 at an EI of 12,
> and once, I  think, as low as 6.
> Similarly, I've shot Pan-X at about half its rated speed more
> than a few times.

Oh, I forgot about K-chrome 25, and if memory serves me, there
was an Agfa slide  film many years ago that was also rated at 25
or so. 
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Re: Have you ever shot at or above 1/2000th sec and what were the circumstances?

2001-01-24 Thread Shel Belinkoff

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Q: Have you *ever* had an occasion to 
> shoot at or above 1/2000th sec. shutter
> speed? What were the circumstances?

Certainly. On bright days, at the beach, at high elevations ...
many times under many circumstances, especially if I wanted
limited DOF.
 
> Asking because not many shooters 
> (other than those crazy B&W shooters 
> who frequently shoot at 6400 ISO), 
> shoot anything faster than ISO 100 film.

Whoa, there, Big Fella . Even ISO 25 film may sometimes
require 1/2000 sec.

> Q: What's the fastest (box rated) film 
> you've ever shot? For me? Konica SR-G3200.

Various B&W films, never color.
> 
> What's the slowest?
> Me? KODAK Gold (RG) ISO 25.

Well, the slowest rated films have been Tech Pan, Agfa APX 25,
Panatomic-X.  However, I sometimes shoot APX 25 at an EI of 12,
and once, I  think, as low as 6.
Similarly, I've shot Pan-X at about half its rated speed more
than a few times.

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Re:Have you ever shot at or above 1/2000th sec and what were the circumstances?

2001-01-24 Thread D. Glenn Arthur Jr.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Q: Have you *ever* had an occasion to shoot at or above 1/2000th sec. shutter 
> speed? What were the circumstances?

I don't have a body that'll do more than 1/2000, but I've had occasion to
stop all the way down and then add a polarizer just to get the shutter
speed within range.

I wanted to shoot something with the camera I had handy, and it was
loaded with non-optimal film for the subject.

> Q: What's the fastest (box rated) film you've ever shot?
> For me? Konica SR-G3200.

Box-rated?  I guess that'd be Ilford Delta 3200, TMZ, and SR-G 3200.
But I've pushed Provia 1600 up to 4800, and I push Delta3200 and TMZ
to 12500.

> What's the slowest? 
> Me? KODAK Gold (RG) ISO 25.

Me also.  (And Agfa APX 25.)

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"Pentax" name - why?

2001-01-24 Thread canislupus


I can't find how Pentax named their line... Pentax. When was it first used?
It seems to me to be an abbrev. of Pentaprism Contax, the famous Carl Zeiss
pentaprism camera (which gave name to Pentacon made by Carl Zeiss Jena
affiliated company, which invented the M42 mount - PENTAprism CONtax). So
did Pentax just "steal" Pentacon's name idea, or is there some other word
behind it? Just curious, sorry ;)

Frantisek

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SFXn 1st impressions

2001-01-24 Thread canislupus


hi, as I promised, here are my first impressions with the SFXn + F 1.4/50 :

*** HANDLING
with the AA grip I got with the camera, it can be handhold very
conveniently, much better than a bare "block" K2DMD (my other Pentax).
Nicely handholable with one hand, and still can access the most usefull
control - AE lock - by thumb. The AA grip is best in this regard - it's so
big that it fits easily my hand.
It balances very well with my longer and heavier glass, too.
Other buttons (there are not many) are easy to memorize and select even
blindfolded, which is great.
The two arrows slidign button for changing shutter speeds, etc are perhaps
not as easy to use as regular rotating wheel, but not bad either.

*** FINDER
is the weakest part of this camera. It's pretty basic, not having an
aperture readout (!), only LEDs for shutter speeds (and quite lousy
signalization for intermediate speeds in A mode), flash led, mode leds,
expos. compensation symbol (not actual amount). The "groundglass" (some
sort of laser matter or microprism / strange fresnel) is nice, and even not
that hard to focus manual lenses. It's darker than the K2DMD (propably
because the semi-permeatable mirror for AF). But the screen is great for
manualy focusing wide angles, cause you can easily focus even in the
corners, which is almost impossible with fresnel screens.

*** SPECS
I like the 1/4000 for handholding telephotos. I lack intermediate speeds
in shutter-priority & manual modes (you can select only e.g. 1/125, 1/60,
1/30 but NOT 1/45, 1/90. Only in P or aperture-priority is the shutter
step-less). Big omission AFAIK. Another strange thing is two Manual modes -
one is X synch and another is classic manual. It's ok BUT the two are a bit
confusing - I select the wrong one.
Very nice thing is the Automatic modes. It's easy to use & select between
them: with A mode selected and lens on A, you get shutter priority. When
you move the aperture ring from A to say f/11, you get instantly
aperture-priority - a bit like PZ1-p. The Program modes are three - normal
which is pretty basic but good, Sport one (selecting wide apertures and
high speeds, it's pretty "intelligent" if enough light - it tries to stop
down 1 or 1/2 stop as soon as possible - at around 1/500 or 1/1000) and
Depth of field one - which selects stops around f/8 to f/13 even if low-light.
Manual mode is only selectable when lens is off "A" setting (how owuld you
like to select aperture then? Only PZ-1p has got two wheels for that. SFXn
has only one selector), which is OTOH quite intuitive.
The MODE selection is a bit awkward - when lens in A stop, you can cycle
between 4 (four!) modes with the arrows slider - and "normal" P mode is in
between the "sport" and "dof" modes, while A is "left" of "sport". At least
there is that reset button near finder, "c" aka clear, which brings you to
either P(normal) when lens is on A, or to aperture-priority A when lens is
off A stop. Nice.
OTOH, mode selection is very easy if you only use two A modes.

Motor - at 2 fps is slow compared to high-end nikons & canons, but I like
it - I wouldn't propably use much more, at max. the 4 fps of PZ-1p. I was
used to wind the lever each time (I couldn't get a motordrive for the K2DMD
- it needs a special one, very rare).

*** AUTOFOCUS
Well, the weaker point of this camera. First generation Safox is
horizontal only, so it hunts on vertical pattern objects (just tilt the
camera to a side, it helps instantly!). But in good light (and by that I
mean average room lightning room lighting), it usually locks in a second at
maximum with my f 1.4/50 (my current only one af lens). It has problems
with fine-grained uniformly lit objects, though - it just wan't focus on
them. But at least if lights the AF-assist lamp which is built-in the RTF -
it helps a lot in dark (by fine-grained I mean e.g. the finish of my chair,
etc. But it automatically uses the AF-assist on them). AF assist works only
in SINGLE af mode! In SERVO, it doesn't ;-(
SERVO mode is quite nice, if it has enough light. It focuses quickly then
does few micro-adjustments, but shutter can be released any-time, unlike
single). OTOH, as I said, builtin AF assist doesn't work in SERVO.
Can't say how it works with slower lenses. I don't plan to get any slower
AF lenses (except the F 4-5.6/70-210 for light weight), so I can't tell you.

*** METERING
is only center-weighed, but ! it is not that good. What I mean is that it
takes into account too much of the picture area, and I like more selective
metering. It takes too much account of "sky" area (tried only indoors, by
measuring a ceiling light). My K2DMD is not much better, though, and still
I got nice pictures with sky in them. But the AE-LOCK button is so easy to
use (with thumb), that it does't really matter. the K@DMD has such a
hard-to-use AEL button (must be operated with other hand)...
the roll of s

Re: SV: F 70-210 lenses

2001-01-24 Thread canislupus

At 23:50 23.1.2001 +0100, you wrote:
>Hi Frantisec
>I've tested this /F70-210mm/4-5.6 systematicly. It's eqaully very good at
>ALL focal lengths
>and ALL apertures! That's what makes it special.
>Best Regards
>Jens
>

Thanks Jens. It looked so nice from the MTF photodo graphs. Truly an unusal
zoom! 
How large prints do you think are possible without losing visual sharpness
(I am pretty conservative regarding print sharpness, I just detested some
big prints from digital at local Czech Press Photo exhibition)
I will look at it as a lightweight alternative to a 2.8 zoom in this focal
length (which I certainly don't want to lug someplaces... one news photog
lost a big af nikon with 2.8/80-200 zoom due to crowd  at the anti-mmf
protests in september, and my friend cameraman's camera was destroyed by
police, deliberately - that's just our police ). I would prefer
losing a 4-5.6 than 2.8  anytime ;)

Frantisek

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Re: Asahiflex, Pentax Club, and Pentax FAQ

2001-01-24 Thread Rfsindg

Dario,

Thanks for the articles.  Peter's was interesting and yours on the LX 
variations was sensational.  

I want a Titan LX !!!  Any owners or sellers out there?

Regards,  Bob S.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< You can read some articles about the Asahiflex in AOHC page:
 http://digilander.iol.it/aohc/selartice.htm
 
 I want to highlight you especially the latest one, authored by Peter
 Jonkman, with very interesting unpublished info about the development of the
 Asahiflex, the difficult start selling the first Japanese SLR during the
 rangefinder era, the pentaprism prototypes, the men behind all that.
 
 I hope you'll enjoy it.
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Re: Toxicity city

2001-01-24 Thread canislupus

At 00:51 23.1.2001 -0500, you wrote:
>Ok, wolfman, will coffee work for developing prints as well?  should I use
green or
>dark roast?
>
>Yours in health,
>nurse annsan

Ann, I am sorry but I refrain from drinking coffee. Gives me stomach burns
and high pressure ;-)
Seriously, I (as I mentioned at the end of my post) only read about coffee
developer, and the article bt Tony McLean mentioned nothing about prints.
Most propably yes, but at tooo long times. I would certainly sip the coffee
off the tray to stay awake ;)

BTW, on toxicity, I discovered at home a bottle of maximum purity Glacial
acetic acid (99.5%) ... should I pour it into water or water into acid ;) ?
I just can't get myself to remember it right... Well, if I stop responding
to list, I have done it the wrong way...

Frantisek _Vlcek_ (which means _little wolf_ canis lupus minor ;)

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CHEM. POISONING (was: Toxicity)

2001-01-24 Thread canislupus

I finally remembered where I read such an exhaustive article on chemical
poisoning and safety precautions. Where else but the Focal press
Encyclopaedia of Photographu ("Encyclopaedia Ggigantica Photographica
Maxima") from the Seventies.

It deals with dermatitis and ways to heal it, etc.
I recommend to all who have it to look it up, page 3415 (vol.18).
My notes are denoted as //...//
Few brief points from the three page article follow: [remember, it was
written in days when people didn't use gloves, but still take heed ;) ]

1) skin sensitization, resulting in horrible skin eruptions, develops for
most peple only after years of contact with developer, so you never know
when you are safe ;)

2) two types of poisoning due to developer: Alkali and Reducing agent. Both
are to be treated quite differently

*** 2A) Alkali poisoning.
Skin becomes thin, cracked, peeling, somewhat reddened, tender. No pimples
on hands. But face freq. shows papular (pimply, acne like) eruption -
produced by alcali being transferred from hands to face.

PREVENTION
Keep hands away from tender skin (face) until preventive treatment apply.
This treatment: neutralization of the alkali by weak solution of acid,
either 2-5% acetic acid or winegar. Ten or fifteen minutes //propably
overkill, we all wear gloves now. But still, 1 or few mins might help// in
it. Wash afterwards with water.

HEALING
of skin eruptions & dermatitis due to alkali poisoning.
Do not get any more alkali on the skin until healed! This might only result
in chronic, eczematous condition, hard to heal!!!
Should heal itself in week or two. Some lubricant/hydrating agent/cream
will give comfort (soften brittle skin).

*** 2B) Reducing agent poisoning
Most agents cause eruptions, with Metol propably the worst. // So Xtol is
maybe the safest, without any metol //. But Metol only propably to
"impurity", paraphenylene-diamine // so even XTOL, considered to be
"safest" is not safe - it contains still not only Vitamin C, but also
aromatic amines - phenyl-diamine derivate...;( //. //just use gloves all
the time//.

PREVENTION
Use the acid bath as well, it will neutralize alkalis and solubilize the
aromatic amines - easier to wash away then.

ERUTPTION
does not appera usualy until 24 - 48 hrs after exposure. Blisters are
seen, deep in thin skin (between fingers,wrists). In another day or two
these surface as solid piples. In few days more, skin between them
raises,thickens, reddens. There is constant itching from the beginning,
more n more intense.Sometimes, skin oozes fluid - serum (lymph) from
under-skin tissues. Usually, the course of eruption is 10-14 days, than it
disappears.

HEALING
Cannot be substantialy shortened. Except to endure all the stages, 10-14
days ;(. Only method helpful is one for relieving of the itching or burning
//so you don't scratch your hand off ;) //. Try this lotion:
Pure Phenol (1 dram), Methol (2 dram), Aluminium Nitrate (1 ounce), Rubbing
alcohol to make 6 ounces. Dissolve. Shake up before using. Apply gently
with tuft of cotton. Keep away from eyes.

MORE PREVENTION
The latent period of 24-48 hours is time it gets the agents to permeate
tru outer skin layers to below. So the irritant must be promply destroyed,
before it starts penetrating. This can be accomplished by oxidising agents
(of course such that will not damage the skin): 3-5% solution of Potassium
Permanganate, throuoroughly dissolving the crystals. Add ten drops of
concentrated sulfuric acid to one quart of the solution. Wash the hands and
forearms up to the elbows in this solution until they are a uniform deep
walnut brown. Then wash in 3-5% Oxalic acid or Sodium oxalate acidified
with ten drops of concentrated sulfuric acid per quart of solution. The
brown stain will disappear rapidly. Your hands will emerge white and soft,
cleaner than you would get them by any amounty of scrubing with soap and
water. !Caution: Persons who are subject to skin irritation should be sure
they are not irritated by any chemicals mentioned above!. A better than the
Oxalic acid (acidified sodium oxalate) can be 5-10% solution of Sodium
Sulfite (or Sodium bisulfite), which also removes the hypermanganate stain.
Sodium (bi)sulfite is better cause it's less likely to cause irritation on
its own, and less dangerous to handle. Even if not subject to dermatitis,
you may find it useful (all the way, permanganate to remover) in removing
developer stains from skin 

//and I would add, perhaps also from sinks and bathroom tubs, for some of
us develop in their bathrooms, over a bath tub, which developer has the
habit of _PERMANENTLY_ (yes, it's PERMANENT) staining dark brown or purple.
Our significant others are known to object to such pink-stained bath tub,
and could throw us out of the flat. So this permanganate and remover might
be helpfull even in removing these stains!!!//

*** That's all. hope you find it helpful ;) Wear gloves, or be careful and
use the ab

Re: PZ-1P & Pentax "M" Lenses ?

2001-01-24 Thread Gerald Wang

On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, John Glover wrote:
> > 2) Does the spot metering mode work well with M lenses?
> 
> Yes, spot metering and center weighted should work with the M series
> lenses...the multi segment metering should work as well. My PZ-1p manual
> states that for lenses made earlier than the M series (without
> information contacts), only the center weighted and spot metering will
> function. So, based on that, the M series should work in all metering
> modes. 

Actually, multi-segment metering will not work with M-series lenses as
they do not have the required information contacts.

Regards,

Gerald

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20 mm F/4 lens

2001-01-24 Thread Barry Meyers-Rice


Hey Folks,

I've got a sigma 24 mm lens that, I'm concluding, is something of a
flare-machine. I'm toying with getting a 20 mm F4 Pentax (the one with a
49 mm filter diameter, not the older 58 mm filter).

Anyone have this lens and have comments on it?

Cheers

Barry

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Re: Re[3]: Have you ever shot at or above 1/2000th sec and what were the circ...

2001-01-24 Thread SudaMafud

In a message dated 1/24/01 3:22:36 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:
<< I've obviously led a very sheltered life- my entire photographic life of 
16 years has been spent between B and 1/500. >>

You gotta get out of the dank-gloomies and come up into the sunlight man! 
You've never lived until you load some ISO 800 in your PZ-1p, hook it up to a 
400mm f/4.5 or f/4 lens and go shoot some seaside screen savers. With the 
right blend of sky and reflections off the sea behind the sailboat, you'll 
peg it at 1/8000th sec easy!  

Mafud
Zawadi Imaging & Media Company
Atlanta, Houston, Ontario, CA, Naples, FL
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OT:KEH has been very,very good to me.

2001-01-24 Thread Steve Larson

Hi all,
 I`ve got to tell about the nightmare Super Program from KEH, it acted 
like it was`nt syncing with the flash, then it was determined that the
shutter magnets were the problem, KEH replaced the shutter long after
the 90 day was expired, because it was an intermittent problem. I got
it back and had the shutter tested, and the speeds were way off. My
repair guy said you could adjust the shutter tension, but would lose
1/2000s. We thought about returning it, but thought there was no way.
 I called Scott Faust at KEH this morning and he said that he was
very disappointed about their camera repair, and to send it back, and
he`ll fix it, or replace it. I can`t praise him enough. Was I being to
picky? Don`t answer that. The camera was a birthday present for
the wife, her confidence level is not too high with a SLR, but when
it comes back this time, maybe that`ll change.
Thanks for listening to my rants,
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California

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Re: Have you ever shot at or above 1/2000th sec and what were the circumstanc...

2001-01-24 Thread SudaMafud

In a message dated 1/24/01 3:31:55 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< I've rated it at 6400 and wondered about using it at 1600 to see what it 
turns out like. >>

That *might* deepen the colors but limit a few shadow details. But it may not 
do anything noticeable since 1600 is only one stop under and SR-G3200 
supposedly has two & two latitude.
How *does* it look at 6400?

Mafud
Zawadi Imaging & Media Company
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Re: OT: (Somewhat) Is this true for you?

2001-01-24 Thread Steve Larson

Now that`s reaching out!
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California

> > Uou! If 600 is moderate telephoto for you, then what
> > do you consider extreme? :)
> 
> My Meade ETX-90 telescope at 1450mm/f16 or even the same with a 2X TC for
> 2900/f32.
> 
> Bill



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Re: Grandfather Mountain (was Re: Pentax clubs)

2001-01-24 Thread jeepgirl

Wait a minute I am not a knight in shinning armor.  I am a girl, i don't get
to be a rescuer, i want to be rescued
SnakeGirl

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RE: PocketJet printer... what's up with that?

2001-01-24 Thread David Viles

  It's Pentax's own version of thermal paper.  That's why they include some
with the printer.  They also recommend that you purchase more paper through
them.  It isn't as bad as thermal fax machines.  The paper is a bit thicker.

The printer itself is about the size of a standard foot-long ruler, and
accepts single fed sheets of paper.

David Viles


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The Pentax® PocketJetTM printer, with its ultra-light/ultra-portable design,
sets new standards for truly portable printing. Weighing only 17.5
ounces/497 grams (including battery), the PocketJet printer can go with you
anytime and anywhere you need it! Best of all, the PocketJet printer is
loaded with the performance features you would expect to find in a desktop
printer, in a compact, portable package.. PocketJets are among the smallest
portable printers in the world. Even with accessories, they are still small
enough to fit into the available space in your briefcase or PC carry bag.
PocketJet ships with everything you need to start printing right out of the
box. If you were to add up the items that are not included with most other
portable printers, yet are standard with the PocketJet, you would find
PocketJet often has a lower suggested list price. (And most of these items
are considered essentials by true road warriors.) A complete PocketJet
system includes: PocketJet printer Rechargeable Ni-Cd battery AC
adapter/battery recharger AC Power cord Parallel cable Thermal paper -
100-sheet box Carrying case Complete documentation Brand new, factory
sealed.

It is a thermal paper printer. Like thermal fax machines.  Poor quality.

Cy Galley - editor, B-C Contact!
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>
> I see this printer come up all the time on eBay, and I'm curious about
> it.  Is it inkjet, dye sub, or something else?  Can you still get paper
> for it?  It looks pretty neat, but the consistent lack of bidders must
> mean something.
>
> chris
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Pentax AF330FTZ vs Metz 32 MZ-3

2001-01-24 Thread Shot

Hello.

I've recently posted an email to pl.rec.foto newsgroup asking what 
flash would be recommended for a newbie Pentax MZ-5n user like me. I 
got two kinds of responses:

1. Buy Metz 32 MZ-3 - very good performance / price factor, bounce, 
swivel, etc.

2. Pentax AF330FTZ - it's Pentax, and it has convinient LCD with lots 
of info.

My question is - of these two, which one you'd recommend? Or maybe 
there's another?

(I also consider AF220T - it's cheap - but I don't want to buy one 
flash and then regret not buying better one...).

Cheers,
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Re: Have you ever shot at or above 1/2000th sec and what were the circumstances?

2001-01-24 Thread John Francis

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Hello All.
> 
> Q: Have you *ever* had an occasion to shoot at or above 1/2000th sec. shutter
> speed? What were the circumstances?

Performing lens tests of 300/2.8 lenses.  In order to get a shutter speed
of 1/250 when stopped down to f16, I ended up with 1/8000 shooting wide open.

I've also used faster shutter speeds deliberately when photographing
motorsports;  I've used 400 (and even 800) speed film to let me get
really short exposures.  In fact I've got a roll of Provia 400F just
to test at the next event.

> Q: What's the fastest, slowest (box rated) film you've ever shot?

Recently: Fuji 1600.  But I did once use 3200-speed B&W film.

Slowest: RG 25. And I've still got 20 or so rolls of it left.

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Re: Grandfather Mountain (was Re: Pentax clubs)

2001-01-24 Thread jeepgirl

Bill wrote:
It shouldn't be too rough a ride until you hit the North Carolina state
line.  The state flower is a road barricade barrel and the State motto is
"Work Zone Ahead".

remember I am the girl who like 4x4ing. so a rough ride will be okay with
me.  As long as I don't get a black eye on North Carolina's roads.
jeepgirl

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[FW Pentax Spotmatic, 200mm f3.5, 2x, and T-ring]

2001-01-24 Thread Todd Stanley


Spotted in rec.photo.marketplace
http://www.deja.com/bg.xp?level=rec.photo.marketplace



Subject: 
 FS Pentax Spotmatic, 200mm f3.5, 2x, and T-ring
Date: 
 Tue, 23 Jan 2001 03:24:39 GMT
   From: 
 "GQ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 Organization: 
 Road Runner
 Newsgroups: 
 rec.photo.marketplace




Originally intended for Astrophoto stuff, this unit and lens are in
excellent condition.  Never used while I owned it.  Lens is smooth and sharp
w/adjustable tripod ring mount included.  Camera is in full working mode
with excellent cosmetics. The T-ring is a thread mount pentax type.  The 2x
converter is a Soligor and comes in a case with both endcaps.
Asking $200 OBO.





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Re: Balck MZ-3/43mm Limited Package

2001-01-24 Thread Collin Brendemuehl


Shel:  The only person on earth who thinks
   of fine equipment in P&S terms.  

Collin

From: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 



As you know,  I'm interested in a similar setup as a walking 
around, P&S type of camera.
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I did it. I got a digital camera. I promise not to use it.much.

2001-01-24 Thread fredd

Mike,

A new signature line for you : "Handle with care, I'm a survivor of the
previous millennium!"

fredd

> Personally, I hope for two things: one, that digital takes over from film,
> and two, that I don't get hit by a bus. Because if I can survive for 40
more
> years, I'm going to be such an odd duck that they're write human interest
> newspaper stories about me: "the aged Johnston still, remarkably, uses the
> anachronistic 'photographic' techniques of the last century: ancient 35mm
> cameras and stockpiled Kodak Tri-X from a storage freezer. He is among the
> last practitioners of an art that is fast becoming lost..."
>
> 
>
> Let the digital revolution get here already. I can't wait to be outmoded,
so
> I can raise my prices. 
>
> --Mike


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Re: OT: I did it. I got a digital camera. I promise not to use it. much.

2001-01-24 Thread Collin Brendemuehl


Trade ya a K-1000 for it!  ;-)
(One must be over 35, generally speaking, to fully
appreciate a Linn.)

Collin


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I don't have quite that many but I've got a Linn Sondek to play the ones I *do* have 
:) 



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Re:Have you ever shot at or above 1/2000th sec and what were the circumstances?

2001-01-24 Thread SudaMafud

Hello All.

Q: Have you *ever* had an occasion to shoot at or above 1/2000th sec. shutter 
speed? What were the circumstances?

Asking because not many shooters (other than those crazy B&W shooters who 
frequently shoot at 6400 ISO), shoot anything faster than ISO 100 film.  

Q: What's the fastest (box rated) film you've ever shot?
For me? Konica SR-G3200.

What's the slowest? 
Me? KODAK Gold (RG) ISO 25.

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Re: MZ3 vs. MZ5n

2001-01-24 Thread Paul Jones

Is there any online camera stores based in Canada? similar to KEHor B&H.

Thanks
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> --- Norman Baugher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Aren't you missing a decimal in the US$ amount? 
> > Norm
> I meant the cameras can be purchase by around US$400.
> Herbet.
> 
> >
> > From: herbet brasileiro
> > >around CND$590 (roughly US$400).
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Re: Slide scanner reviews

2001-01-24 Thread John Francis

IronWorks wrote:
> 
> There are also newsgroups called alt.comp.periphs.scanner and
> comp.periphs.scanners with boucoup information.

They aren't a lot of use if you are interested purely in slide
scanners.  A better choice for those would be rec.photo.digital.

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Re: Grandfather Mountain (was Re: Pentax clubs)

2001-01-24 Thread Bill Owens



> You guys will be able to tell who I am,  besides taking pictures of Doug
and
> his flashlight, I will be the one in the White jeep.  You know the one who
> can't hardly walk cause of the wonderfully bumpy ride from St Louis to The
> mountain.  It's a good thing I am young still.  :)
> jeepgirl

It shouldn't be too rough a ride until you hit the North Carolina state
line.  The state flower is a road barricade barrel and the State motto is
"Work Zone Ahead".

Bill
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Re[2]: VOT comment

2001-01-24 Thread Bob Walkden

Hi,

Flavio Minelli wrote:


> It's not that there are no verbs, it's just that we feel the need to add
> lots of probably unnecessary other things in between...just to make
> things clearer.
> Well, exept where the verb is implied, but there's no need of it in that
> case, is there?

>(;-P)

> Flavio
> -

I didn't realise Italian had actual _words_, Flavio. I thought they
were _all_ implied and that it was largely a matter of doing a Robert
de Niro impression very quickly and rhythmically while waving your
arms a lot. It's always worked for me when I've been in Italy.

well, apart from that one time with the Roman chef and the meat cleaver...

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Re: Slide scanner reviews

2001-01-24 Thread John Francis

Barry Meyers-Rice wrote:
> 
> Hey Folks,
> 
> I will shortly be shopping for a slide scanner for my office. We have a
> good flat-bed scanner, but I'd like a dedicated slide scanner too. It does
> not have to be able to do larger transparent media, just slides. I'm not
> interested in spending much more than around $750.
> 
> Are there any good reviews of slide scanners on the web or in print some
> place?

A good place to start would be dpreview.com or imaging-resource.com

If you can stretch your budget to $900 the new Nikon Coolscan IV
will be hard to beat.

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Re: Slide scanner reviews

2001-01-24 Thread IronWorks

You could start with the archives (privately maintained but publicly posted)
of the filmscanners mailing list at http://phi.res.cse.dmu.ac.uk/Filmscan/

You could join their mailing list, or the mailing list or digest mailing
list for the scanners group by sending the applicable e-mail to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Just put in the body of the message one of the
following:

subscribe filmscanners
subscribe scan
subscribe scan-digest

There are also newsgroups called alt.comp.periphs.scanner and
comp.periphs.scanners with boucoup information.

I can't think of any review sites off the top of my head but I'm sure a web
search will come up with many.

Maris

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Subject: Slide scanner reviews


|
| Hey Folks,
|
| I will shortly be shopping for a slide scanner for my office. We have a
| good flat-bed scanner, but I'd like a dedicated slide scanner too. It does
| not have to be able to do larger transparent media, just slides. I'm not
| interested in spending much more than around $750.
|
| Are there any good reviews of slide scanners on the web or in print some
| place?
|
| Barry
|
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Re: The Blackest Black

2001-01-24 Thread Norman Baugher

Valentin's cave? 
Norm

From: Shel Belinkoff 
> but what have you found that gives you the blackest
> background under most, if not all, lighting conditions?  

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Re: MZ3 vs. MZ5n

2001-01-24 Thread herbet brasileiro

--- Norman Baugher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Aren't you missing a decimal in the US$ amount? 
> Norm
I meant the cameras can be purchase by around US$400. 
Herbet.

> 
> From: herbet brasileiro 
> >around CND$590 (roughly US$400).
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The Blackest Black

2001-01-24 Thread Shel Belinkoff

I've been experimenting with a few black backgrounds - cloth,
velvet, flat black paint, an old towel, and a blanket. 
Depending on the light, some are good for Zone 0 some of the
time, others are not so good at any time.  Of course, a lot has
to do with the light and the range between the subject and the
background, but what have you found that gives you the blackest
background under most, if not all, lighting conditions?  Maybe
there's something you've tried that I've not, and with which I'm
not familiar.

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Slide scanner reviews

2001-01-24 Thread Barry Meyers-Rice


Hey Folks,

I will shortly be shopping for a slide scanner for my office. We have a
good flat-bed scanner, but I'd like a dedicated slide scanner too. It does
not have to be able to do larger transparent media, just slides. I'm not
interested in spending much more than around $750.

Are there any good reviews of slide scanners on the web or in print some
place?

Barry

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Re: Toxicity (was Warning!)

2001-01-24 Thread pentax

A scroll of mail from Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Read it? y
>JoMac: I discovered the secret of standing far away and using long tongs
>about thirty seconds into my clothing-optional bacon frying excursion. 
>I learn fast when it hurts.

you just need a lid on your wok, and stir things around by moving the
pan vigorously.

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MZ-S release

2001-01-24 Thread Pål Jensen

Mike wrote:

"Can you point us to any websites or additional pictures on the web of the
new Pentax MZ-S? I'm still eager to hear several specifications, namely:

[snip]
--viewfinder coverage"

REPLY:
I've been told that viewfinder  coverage is 98%. Take it with a grain of salt though...



Takeshita wrote: 

"I'll continue to search for the information on MZ-S and
31mm Ltd.  And I'm checking PENTAX JAPAN's web site
every day for a new press release."


REPLY:

The MZ-S will be shown at PMA in February, almost certainly in finalized form. If 
we're lucky, press releases may emerge even before that in Japan. 


Pål



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Re: Grandfather Mountain (was Re: Pentax clubs)

2001-01-24 Thread Lasse Karlsson

jeepgirl wrote:
> You guys will be able to tell who I am,  besides taking pictures of Doug and
> his flashlight, I will be the one in the White jeep.  You know the one who
> can't hardly walk cause of the wonderfully bumpy ride from St Louis to The
> mountain.  It's a good thing I am young still.  :)
> jeepgirl

Oh, Snake Girl, come abduct me in your Big White Jeep at sunset. I will be your bump 
protection.
(And you will be young no more)

Lasse

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Re: MZ3 vs. MZ5n

2001-01-24 Thread herbet brasileiro

Here in Toronto I've found that they practically sell
for the same price, around CND$590 (roughly US$400).
Herbet.
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> At 06:42 24.1.2001 +0800, you wrote:
> [...]
> >
> >I am happy having the 1/4000 top shutter speed, but
> if I had had to buy it 
> >I probably would have saved the couple of hundred
> dollars and bought the 
> >MZ-5n.
> 
> Interestingly, both MZ-5n and MZ-3 sell for almost a
> same price here in
> Czech republic. In some shops, the difference is
> only 1200 Kc (~45 USD!)
> !!! But the MZ-5n is unfortunately a bit overpriced
> compared to e.g. B+H
> new... ;(
> 
> For comparsion, I have seen MZ-5n sell for ~15800
> Kc(400$) new, and MZ-3
> for 16900 (440$)new.
> 
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Re: MZ3 vs. MZ5n

2001-01-24 Thread Norman Baugher

Aren't you missing a decimal in the US$ amount? 
Norm

From: herbet brasileiro 
>around CND$590 (roughly US$400).


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Re: Grandfather Mountain (was Re: Pentax clubs)

2001-01-24 Thread jeepgirl

You guys will be able to tell who I am,  besides taking pictures of Doug and
his flashlight, I will be the one in the White jeep.  You know the one who
can't hardly walk cause of the wonderfully bumpy ride from St Louis to The
mountain.  It's a good thing I am young still.  :)
jeepgirl


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RE: Is Konica AR mount physically compatible with Pentax K-mount?

2001-01-24 Thread Peifer, William [OCDUS]

Ed M. wrote:
>The Konica lens slipped into a K-mount (K2 body), but it remained
>loose because the AR flanges are smaller and the meter prong has
>a shorter slot.

Thanks, Ed!  I guess this means I won't need to put in bids on any Konica
extension tube sets.

Bill Peifer
Rochester, NY

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OT: Oops! Reducers

2001-01-24 Thread canislupus


How dumb I am! I just mixed in a roll of Acupan T800 with Fomapan 400
pushed 2 stops (16 min in Microphen) ... The Acupan 800 was exposed as 2
stop push also, but needs quite less developing in MPH to get there -
around 14-15 minutes AT MAX. Results: the 800+2 is quite overdeveloped.
Pushing didn't help either!

Highlights are all blocked up, while shadows are there, but contrast is way
too much. I can try printing on grade 0 or 00, will have to try. Could some
proportional reducer help reduce the highlights? Farmer's reducer?

I have not yet used reducers, would it work on such a grainy push here? I
don't want to cause more mess than I already have. I just hate this
contrasty concert lightning! Next time I will "underdevelop" (or not push)
some TMZ at ISO speed (around 1000 - 1200, ain't it?). should be better.
Now that I got some faster glass, I can go down in iso ;)

Thanks the B&W gurus!

Frantisek

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Re: MZ3 vs. MZ5n

2001-01-24 Thread canislupus

At 06:42 24.1.2001 +0800, you wrote:
[...]
>
>I am happy having the 1/4000 top shutter speed, but if I had had to buy it 
>I probably would have saved the couple of hundred dollars and bought the 
>MZ-5n.

Interestingly, both MZ-5n and MZ-3 sell for almost a same price here in
Czech republic. In some shops, the difference is only 1200 Kc (~45 USD!)
!!! But the MZ-5n is unfortunately a bit overpriced compared to e.g. B+H
new... ;(

For comparsion, I have seen MZ-5n sell for ~15800 Kc(400$) new, and MZ-3
for 16900 (440$)new.


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RE: MY WEBPAGE WITH PHOTOS

2001-01-24 Thread canislupus


I APOLOGIZE TO ALL OF YOU WHO WANTED TO LOOK AND COULDN'T! I AM SORRY.

It sure generated a lot of traffic ;)

I have localized the problem now - when I was uploading  an updated version
of the two pages, with the noimageindex metatag (although I would be
honored if Lycos included my pics with them ;), the ftp server on the
hosting machine had problems, and partially froze. So it seems that not
complete files were uploaded. Just now, I still can't connect to the ftp
server, but as soon as it's open, I will upload them again and complete. I
think that was the problem.
Sorry ;(

Frantisek

BTW, 

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pre ebay sale

2001-01-24 Thread Tiger Moses

Cleaning out the closet
Selling stuff that newer or Pentax Brand Equipment replaced
many great screw mount items

http://www.blkbox.com/~tmoses/pentax.htm

email me if interested or want to buy or have questions!!!

Goes to ebay in 48 hours(ish)

giving ya'll first shot

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Is Konica AR mount physically compatible with Pentax K-mount?

2001-01-24 Thread Peifer, William [OCDUS]

Hi all,

I think I saw this addressed somewhere before, but I sure can't remember the
details.  Is the Konica AR mount physically and dimensionally compatible
with the Pentax K bayonet mount?  I know that Pentax didn't license the KA
to anyone, so I know the electrical contacts are in the wrong place.  But as
far as the Konica bayonet itself -- will it fit properly into a Pentax K
body?  Could I get, for example, a cheap Konica extension tube to mount
properly into a Pentax body, and could I then mount a Pentax K lens into the
other end of a cheap Konica tube?

Thanks in advance,
Bill Peifer
Rochester, NY
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Re: VOT comment

2001-01-24 Thread Flavio Minelli

Stefan Schloemer wrote:
> 
> ...
> 
> Mark Roberts wrote:
> >...
> > The translator whispered back, "S...I'm waiting for the verb!"
> 
> Well, try to read an italian newspaper. There are _no_ verbs :-)
> (slightly exaggerating...)
> 
> ...

It's not that there are no verbs, it's just that we feel the need to add
lots of probably unnecessary other things in between...just to make
things clearer.
Well, exept where the verb is implied, but there's no need of it in that
case, is there?

   (;-P)

Flavio
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Re: Who here uses a monopod?

2001-01-24 Thread Flavio Minelli

Dan Scott wrote:
> 
> ...
> 
> What is the hassle factor with adjusting the pod for height? I
> guess I'm thinking primarily about insects and other quick moving things.
> How does it work out, do you carry it around with camera attached and pod
> extended or collapsed or what?
> 
> ...

The standard monopod is not very fast to adjust and it's a matter of
getting used to snap the last lock in place at the right moment, but
this lets you with just a single section adjustment freedom. Not enough
for standup-low level fast change.

BTW my Manfrotto 479 is quite tall even closed, about 60 cm./2 feet or
more, not very useful for ground level shots. On the other hand there's
a nice accessory you can use with the monopod which converts it to a low
tripod. It's a kind of metal bipod base with a small ballhead on top.

Bogen/Manfrotto has a modopod which can be adjusted from
a lever or button  just under the head. You depress it and adjust the
height then release it and the thing lock in place.
It's the 334B/3245. You can look at: 

http://www.manfrotto.com/products/metric/botfot3.html?menu=botfot2.html&menu1=botfot2.html§ionid=2&subsectionid=3&categoryid=9&subcategoryid=99&man_code=334B&company=MNO&doc_from=gerarchia&contatore=primo

there's no way it will fit into a single line so you'll have to do some
cut&paste, I'm afraid.

Flavio
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Re: Natural Bright Matte Screen for LX

2001-01-24 Thread Takehiko Ueda

Hi Mike,

> Can you point us to any websites or additional pictures
> on the web of the new Pentax MZ-S? I'm still eager to hear
> several specifications

Searching on the web for the information on MZ-S, I
happened to come across with an unofficial news for the
LX's finder screen.

Natural bright matte screen, which was adopted to LX2000,
will be on store by the end of this month.  The price will
be JP\2000.  Just for information.

I'll continue to search for the information on MZ-S and
31mm Ltd.  And I'm checking PENTAX JAPAN's web site
every day for a new press release.

Sincerely,


Take Ueda, Osaka, Japan
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.tripod.co.jp/hayatama/photo/

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Re: Is Konica AR mount physically compatible with Pentax K-mount?

2001-01-24 Thread LEDMRVM

In a message dated 1/24/2001 10:57:52 AM US Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> Hi all,
>  
>  I think I saw this addressed somewhere before, but I sure can't remember 
the
>  details.  Is the Konica AR mount physically and dimensionally compatible
>  with the Pentax K bayonet mount?  I know that Pentax didn't license the KA
>  to anyone, so I know the electrical contacts are in the wrong place.  But 
as
>  far as the Konica bayonet itself -- will it fit properly into a Pentax K
>  body?  Could I get, for example, a cheap Konica extension tube to mount
>  properly into a Pentax body, and could I then mount a Pentax K lens into 
the
>  other end of a cheap Konica tube?
>  
>  Thanks in advance,
>  Bill Peifer
>  Rochester, NY
>  -

Your question aroused my curiosity, so I tried it. The Konica lens slipped 
into a K-mount (K2 body), but it remained loose because the AR flanges are 
smaller and the meter prong has a shorter slot. BTW, I did this rather 
carefully - no desire to wreck either lens or body.
Regards,
Ed M.
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Re: Grandfather Mountain (was Re: Pentax clubs)

2001-01-24 Thread tom

I would think so

tv

Rob Studdert wrote:
> 
> On 24 Jan 2001, at 2:22, tom wrote:
> 
> > This is gonna be fun.
> 
> I trust there will be a couple of pages of pics put up after the event so the out-
> of-towners like me aren't entirely left out? :-)
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Re: OT: I did it. I got a digital camera. I promise not to useit. much.

2001-01-24 Thread Dan Scott


>As imaging technologies have been made obsolete through history, what
>happens to them? Do they disappear completely?

>Stone lithography? Woodcutting? Etching?
>
>No. They simply become "arts." Ever-smaller groups of artisans master them
>and the knowledge of the techniques becomes more and more rare and esoteric.
>And their prestige goes _up_, not down.

I think the key things to keep in mind the are the phrase "ever-smaller"
and difference between shortterm and longterm effects "through history".

In the shortterm, people who may have spent many years learning their
craft, acquiring their tools, and building their reputations, found
themselves with little respect, competing, often at a disadvantage, with
new people and new technologies. Painting is still an art form in the
longterm, but in the shortterm the itinerant portraitist, his skill set,
and his place in society was rendered null and void by the advent of
photography.

So, right, longterm, portraits are still being painted by a small number of
people in the traditional fashion, with prestige and high prices to boot.
Shortterm, however, a much greater number of people who had once been
skilled professionals, found themselves possessing a skill set and an
identity that technology had passed by.

Sorry if the above is a bit muddled. I'm doped up on antihistamines at the
moment.

>Personally, I hope for two things: one, that digital takes over from film,
>and two, that I don't get hit by a bus. Because if I can survive for 40 more
>years, I'm going to be such an odd duck that they're write human interest
>newspaper stories about me: "the aged Johnston still, remarkably, uses the
>anachronistic 'photographic' techniques of the last century: ancient 35mm
>cameras and stockpiled Kodak Tri-X from a storage freezer. He is among the
>last practitioners of an art that is fast becoming lost..."
>
>Let the digital revolution get here already. I can't wait to be outmoded, so
>I can raise my prices. 
>

Don't forget, in 40 years you'll still be competing with the other codgers
eager to use the same skill set. Better wait 60-150 years and then you'll
have the market all to yourself. 

Great topic,

Dan Scott
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Re: OT: How I use my spot meter, and how should I use my incident meter?

2001-01-24 Thread Flavio Minelli

Bob Walkden wrote:
> 
> ...
> For brightly lit snow or beach scenes you should block the
> reflections coming up off the ground.
> 
> ...

The same goes for your own body. Try not to intrude in the metering with
very bright  or reflective garments and, of course, not to block the
light path to the meter. In short don't stand in front of the meter but
rather sideways or behind it, looking at the camera.

Flavio
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Re: OT: Las Vegas and Cameras

2001-01-24 Thread Shel Belinkoff

"Matamoros, Cesar A." wrote:

> I was there [Las Vegas] in October and openly 
> photographed, almost exclusively without flash.

Does anyone know if the same applies to Reno and Tahoe.  Both
are a lot closer to me and have more interesting surroundings.

-- 
Shel Belinkoff
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"The difference between a good photograph 
and a great photograph is subtleties."
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