Re: 85mm vs 77mm, and 43mm
Ditto. For me sometimes, just snapping the shutter is primary (comes with being a crappy photographer). The goal is usually to always get the image that I'm looking for, however, just burning film, going through the whole contemplative process, working with equipment that feels right, is a joy in itself... Norm Paul Stenquist wrote: You won't need any body armor for my reply. I agree to a great extent and am sometimes annoyed by the elitist hairsplitting that most photo discussion groups encounter. On the other hand, most of us aren't involved in photography to do the damn job. We're having fun, playing with our toys. If one lens gives us a greater sense of pleasure, whether it be tactile, visual, or something else, then it serves our needs. Let someone else do the damn job. I'm here to have fun. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New (used) 6x7 arrives
Thanks Dave. Everything works fine. I didn't realize the film counter had to be in an active position, but Rob straightened me out. Now I'm lens shopping. Paul David A. Mann wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: I haven't been able to try the shutter or the MLU. Can someone explain how the MLU functions? Any info would be greatly appreciated. You push the MLU switch upwards. The mirror goes *thunk*. You wait as long as you need to, and press the shutter release. The mirror returns automatically after the shutter closes. There is no way to deactivate the MLU other than releasing the shutter... so if you accidentally trigger it, you either waste a frame of film or your battery eventually dies. Cheers, - Dave David A. Mann, B.E. (Elec) http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ Why is it that if an adult behaves like a child they lock him up, while children are allowed to run free on the streets? -- Garfield - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: K1000 and KX
Peter Lacus wrote: Hello Lon, Lon Williamson wrote: So, if you're roughly centered, you're probably well within +/- 1/3 stop of the ideal exposure. PMJI but what's your definition of 'ideal exposure'? Doesn't it depend on intentions of the photog? I was using ideal here in the sense of what the meter thinks is middle toned. Because the KM has an averaging meter, I often use substitute metering, but once I've done so, I find the meter accurate in decent light. -Lon - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 50mm 1.2 (compilation)
I can't believe the distortion in those last two shots! Hang the resolution. Give me a natural appearance any day of the week. Collin --Original Message-- and most specifically: http://www.shinozuka-family.com/200110autumnlux2/kittyleaves4.jpg http://www.shinozuka-family.com/200110autumnlux2/tedkitleaves2.jpg - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Got a free A50/1.4
Congrats. Maybe now people will hate someone besides me. :) Collin - Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 22:11:53 -0800 (PST) From: Juan J. Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Got a free A50/1.4 Another bargain: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1311704013 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 50mm 1.2
My main point is that focusing is easier at 1.2 than what I`m used to with the 1.4 in low light. I too have many, many, many tales of woe with the 50 1.4 @ 1.4 and not getting all the subjects (people) in focus. One person is great, two people is time for flash and stop down, if the subjects are in the near focus range, or not in the same plane of focus, unless you like 3200 ASA and extra large grain and can afford to stop down (without flash). My brains are tired now :) Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 6:48 AM Subject: Re: 50mm 1.2 I used up three rolls last night with the LX and 50 1.2 at Las Posadas in a restaurant last night at Olvera Street, I think the percentage of low light shots in focus has gone way up. The 1.2 is a dream to focus, the SE-60 focus screen doesn`t hurt either, what a combo! Yes, a dream to focus with in low light. However, that razor-thin depth of field that helps so much in focusing can also come back to haunt you: While some photos will be simply great at f/1.2, others (where you might want a number of differently spaced subjects to all be in focus) can become impossible. Ordinarily, you can just stop down a few notches, but in dim light this may result in shutter speeds that are dangerously long. Also, focusing in dim light (with that paper-thin DOF) on a moving subject (not moving perpendicular to you, but moving closer or further away from you) can be a real challenge - the subject, even if moving fairly slowly, will constantly be moving out of the plane of focus all too rapidly. As a guest at a wedding in a church one time, I tried using a 50/1.2 wide open to take a few sepia photos (400 CN) of the wedding participants as they came down the aisle past me. (I had hoped to be able to stop down somewhat, to get a larger DOF, but the church was dimmer than I expected - g.) At f/1.2, focusing on the (even slowly) moving subjects was a pain in the, er, aperture, and it was impossible, say, to get both the bride and her father (at slightly different planes) in focus at the same time. I don't relate this sad tale of woe in order to contradict Steve, but only to point out that just having a fast lens may not be all that is needed - g. (Brains may help, too, I guess - g.) Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Limited lenses and black MZ-S
In a message dated 12/19/01 7:23:20 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've got the 43mm, and when mounted on the MZ-S it puts me in mind of a tin of shoe polish. I find it most incongruous. Doesn't stop me using it though! I like the focal length of the 40mm so much, when I decided to get an AF camera this is the lens I had to choose. I have no intentions on getting the 77mm as I don't use the 85(s) I have, which is rather a shame. (can't bring myself to sell them though) Wendy The silver lenses on black body drove me nuts. So I ordered, from a friend in Japan, a silver MZ-S. Yes, I paid thru the nose!! I tried the limited lenses on a ZX-5n. Looks great; performs great. But I can't accept expensive lenses on a low priced body. Don't get me wrong, I adore my 2 ZX-5ns, but... I have all three limited. The 43 - great travel lens and worth every cent. The 77 - sharp as a tack. The 31, yes the 31 - in a class by itself. A jewel of a wide angle. The perfect lens when you want to use a top prime and go wider. I'd like to see an 18mm and a 135mm in this series. They are worth it. The 77 is so sharp that handheld, wide open, indoors under normal room lighting, using 400 ISO slide film, it delivered shots so sharp the peach fuzz was too obvious on a certain young lady. The 43mm gave me shots of David (Florence) that bounce off the paper (ISO 800, wide open). Now the 31 - challlenges the 43 for that travel position. But, they complement each other not eliminate. Pardon the comparison, but using these lenses gets me better results than the Contax G2 CZ series. Where primes can be used, the limited lenses are in a class with Leitz, Carl Zeiss and the old top Nikkors. As for body color, that's pure vanity on my part. Self indulgence, but there is one thing worth mentioning. This is the first system (Pentax) that totally satisfies me. I don't even yearn for any of the Big Three. Nor have I returned a piece of equipment. It took me over 45 years to find a system I want, love and like. Burt NYC USA - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 50mm 1.2
Hi Arnold, I didn`t know there was two variants of the K 50 1.2. Now there`s 3 different 50 1.2`s. I have the early one with the /, even if it is the weakest link in the line up, I wouldn`t trade my sample, I love it. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: Arnold Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 6:53 AM Subject: Re: 50mm 1.2 Hi, whether one prefers K, M or A lenses obviously is a matter of taste. Like others, I also have grown to appreciate original K lenses most, especially for their build quality. Of course the A50/f1.2, which I had for a short time before I sold it via Ebay, is a wonderfully built lens, yet I prefer the K50/f1.2 which for me just feels more solid, more robust, and less delicate. I prefer the feeling of focusing it, and I have less fear of damaging it. Well, maybe that is all due to the fact, that the K lens has been used while the A lens was like new BTW: Has it been mentioned already that there actually are two versions of the K50/f1.2? The first one is the SMC Pentax 1:1.2/50, while the second one is the SMC Pentax 1:1.2 50mm. I own the latter one, and I believe that it has better coatings than the first one. Arnold Pål Jensen schrieb: The A 50/1.2 is the most exquisitly finished Pentax lens of the 70-80's and its built quality is unmatched from any manufacturers; a Leica 50mm looks cheap in comparison. I've taken an A 50/1.2 apart and theres not a single piece of plastic on it. Lenses simply doesn't come better built than this. The optical quality is another issue though. Anyway, some may prefer the K series cosmetics. I don't. Whats more, eg. the K 50/1.4 and the M 50/1.4 looks like cheap toys compared to the A 50/1.2. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 50mm 1.2
You have more than one? Steven Larson wrote: My brains are tired now :) -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 50mm 1.2
Hi Arnold ... What leads you to believe that the SMC Pentax 1:1.2 50mm is the second or later version, and that it has better coatings than the other lens, which you feel is an earlier version? How can you tell which was produced first and that there is really any difference between them other than the way they're labeled? Arnold Stark wrote: BTW: Has it been mentioned already that there actually are two versions of the K50/f1.2? The first one is the SMC Pentax 1:1.2/50, while the second one is the SMC Pentax 1:1.2 50mm. I own the latter one, and I believe that it has better coatings than the first one. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: why do tele-lenses have ED glass
does anyone know why tele-lenses have ED glass, and why wide angles do not? First: As I understand it, low dispersion glass can be used to help prevent color fringing (sometimes visible as a red or purple edge on a viewed object). Since the different wavelengths (colors) of light are refracted by ordinary glass at different angles, glass designed to prevent this dispersion of light rays is cleverly called LD (for Low Dispersion) glass or (if the marketing department has its way - g) ED (for Extra low Dispersion) glass. Then: Lenses with longer focal lengths are the ones that tend to disperse the red and purple ends of the spectrum the most, if not corrected (or minimized, actually). The weak point in my little explanation here is that I do not know why this is more of a problem for longer focal lengths than shorter. (Sorry.) I guess a little knowledge is a dangerous thing... So, my quick and dirty answer to your question, Frank, is that telephotos naturally produce more color fringing than wide-angles, so that they benefit more from the use of LD or ED glass, designed to minimize fringing. Just don't ask me to explain why it is the long lenses that produce the most color fringing - g. Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Rechargeable (2CR5) for PZ-1p
Hello to All, My brother has been in electronics for over 25 years and he told me there is No Way that a rechargable could damage a camera motor. Rechargables always have a little less voltage than the regular batteries they replace. (1.25 volts to 1.5 volts for instance) To settle the issue, I have been using rechargables in my AA holder on my ZX5n and have had No Problems. A Rechargable Fan, Ryan Somebody wrote: mentioned that the hardness (high current output under big drain) of NiCd or big NiMH might damage the motor or something, is this really true? Although I don't have this camera, I have made batterypacks for almost everything photo-electric I have (mostly using old notebook batteries, a friend tested them and selected the best for me, suprising how they hold), so it's a curiosity-question. Good light, Frantisek - - Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Vs: Voigtlander lens
I think from memory they sold VCRs under the Kyocera name before they did 35mm cameras but I could be confused on the timing. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Raimo Korhonen Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Vs: Vs: Voigtlander lens Video? Kyocera is short version of Kyoto Ceramics - then they bought the bankrupt Yashica. But you are right, nobody is complaining. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Kent Gittings [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 18. joulukuuta 2001 15:29 Aihe: RE: Vs: Voigtlander lens Same thing Kyocera did when they resurrected Contax. I don't notice too many people complaining about them being primarily a video company till then. Kent -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Aaron Reynolds Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 5:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Vs: Voigtlander lens On Monday, December 17, 2001, at 04:55 PM, Raimo Korhonen wrote: Correct - but I have two Voigtländer/Cosina LTM lenses - 4.5/15 mm and 1.7/35 mm - and the quality is impressive. Cosina also made the Ricoh KR-5 and it has a good reputation as a simple but reliable camera. Certainly. I didn't mean to imply that they weren't manufacturing good stuff under the Voightlander name, just that they had not so great a reputation as Cosina, so they bought the Voightlander name to give themselves some credibility for their higher-end products. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 50mm 1.2
Yes, but it is a male thing. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 5:18 AM Subject: Re: 50mm 1.2 You have more than one? Steven Larson wrote: My brains are tired now :) -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Needing a AF500FTZ
I have one you can have for $250 plus shipping. I have everything including the original box. Contact me privately on this. I love the flash but I'm phasing out all of my Pentax AF stuff right now. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Nick Wright Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 7:43 PM To: PDML Subject: Needing a AF500FTZ Hi all, I've decided that I need to get the AF500FTZ flash... Does anyone have one that they can let go? Thanks!!! Nick - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Thank you (re: LX advice)
Just a quick note to thank everyone for all the advice about getting (cost, shipping etc.) an LX both on and off list. I am into my second hour of ownership now, the film is loaded, so I'm off to see how different it is from the MX. Cotty, you can rest easy! Malcolm;-) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Vs: Voigtlander lens
Kyocera also had an entire line of audio components; receivers, amplifiers, cassette decks, CD players. They always tried to find a way to work ceramics into the design if at all possible: Their CD players moved the laser pick-up assembly along ceramic rails rather than steel ones, for example. Their cassette tape transports were excellent and were used on an OEM basis by many other stereo equipment manufacturers. Nakamichi used Kyocera tape transports in a lot of their tape decks. I believe they still OEM for stereo manufacturers but don't sell under their own name any more. I think from memory they sold VCRs under the Kyocera name before they did 35mm cameras but I could be confused on the timing. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Raimo Korhonen Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Vs: Vs: Voigtlander lens Video? Kyocera is short version of Kyoto Ceramics - then they bought the bankrupt Yashica. But you are right, nobody is complaining. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Kent Gittings [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 18. joulukuuta 2001 15:29 Aihe: RE: Vs: Voigtlander lens Same thing Kyocera did when they resurrected Contax. I don't notice too many people complaining about them being primarily a video company till then. Kent -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Aaron Reynolds Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 5:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Vs: Voigtlander lens On Monday, December 17, 2001, at 04:55 PM, Raimo Korhonen wrote: Correct - but I have two Voigtländer/Cosina LTM lenses - 4.5/15 mm and 1.7/35 mm - and the quality is impressive. Cosina also made the Ricoh KR-5 and it has a good reputation as a simple but reliable camera. Certainly. I didn't mean to imply that they weren't manufacturing good stuff under the Voightlander name, just that they had not so great a reputation as Cosina, so they bought the Voightlander name to give themselves some credibility for their higher-end products. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 50mm 1.2
Daphne wrote:- i've been meaning to ask about that. half my K lenses dont have the 'mm'at the end : my SMC -K 24/3.5, 35/2, 50/1.4, and 85/1.8 dont have 'mm' written. my SMC-K 17/4, 18/3.5, 50/1.2 and 135/2.5 have an 'mm' engraved. does that mean thateach of those is first version, and there's second-version siblings around? Daphne --- Hi, I think K-series lenses without 'mm' at the end were manufactured between 1975 and 1977/78. Those with 'mm' engraved were manufactured from around 1978 onward, contemporaneously to the M-series lenses. Such later versions seem to exist only for K-lenses that do not have an ´M'-equivalent. From what I have seen these second versions have constantly higher serial numbers. Enjoy, Alexander Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: why do tele-lenses have ED glass
Fred wrote: [snip] Just don't ask me to explain why it is the long lenses that produce the most color fringing - g. Fred I think chromatic aberrations are harder to correct than spherical abberations. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
50mm/1.2 Variations
Just curious about the serial numbers of the different K50/1.2 variations. Can someone post the SNs for their K50/1.2s and let me know if it's an early or late model. Thanks! -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Rechargeable (2CR5) for PZ-1p
Having been in this field longer than your brother I think you may have not posed the correct question. We aren't taking about voltage but the amount of current a given battery technology can sink across a give load value. A circuit has the same amount of current flow as long as the ohm value of the load and the voltage of the source remain constant. However in a camera the load seen is high (low current) when only the metering is operating. When the motordrive kicks in the power source has to be able to increase it's current flow to power the startup torque and running of the motor. The only way to do this is to suddenly have the battery see a lower load (fewer ohms of resistance). Various battery technologies have different peak current supply capabilities. If the camera maker wants to use this as part of the protection circuitry of the camera they will specify a limited battery type for the camera. Using rechargeables is only a problem in the voltage area if the electronics need to run close to the voltage produced by x number of alkalines or other specified types. If the camera has power regulation down to a something like 4 volts from 4 AA alkalines then 4 NiCads at 4.8 will work. On the otherhand if the camera maker says not to use NiMH or Lithium-Ion batteries it generally means that prolonged use of higher current capable battery technologies will eventually burn out some of the electronics because they were using the source current limit as part of the design process. Especially if the manual says something like use of battery types not specified can void the warranty. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ryan Charron Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 8:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Rechargeable (2CR5) for PZ-1p Hello to All, My brother has been in electronics for over 25 years and he told me there is No Way that a rechargable could damage a camera motor. Rechargables always have a little less voltage than the regular batteries they replace. (1.25 volts to 1.5 volts for instance) To settle the issue, I have been using rechargables in my AA holder on my ZX5n and have had No Problems. A Rechargable Fan, Ryan Somebody wrote: mentioned that the hardness (high current output under big drain) of NiCd or big NiMH might damage the motor or something, is this really true? Although I don't have this camera, I have made batterypacks for almost everything photo-electric I have (mostly using old notebook batteries, a friend tested them and selected the best for me, suprising how they hold), so it's a curiosity-question. Good light, Frantisek - - Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 50mm 1.2
Hi Shel, I believe that the SMC Pentax 1:1.2 50mm is the later version of the K50/f1.2 because the mm in the name of K series lenses exists only for K series lenses that were still made while the M series lenses were already there. As I understand it, my SMC Pentax 1:1.8/85, my SMC Pentax 1:3.5/135 and my SMC Pentax 1:5.6/400 were produced before Pentax introduced the SMC Pentax-M 1:2 85mm, the SMC Pentax-M 1:3.5 135mm and the SMC Pentax-M 1:5.6 400mm. Most of the other K series lenses that I own, e.g. the SMC Pentax 1:1.2 50mm or the SMC Pentax 1:2.5 135mm, have the mm in the name. They are lenses which were not replaced by M lenses. Probably most such K series lenses exist in two versions, one with the /, one with mm. Whether the coatings of the different versions differ much I am not sure, but the coating of my SMC Pentax 1:1.2 50mm surely looks different from the coatings of the SMC Pentax 1:1.8/85 and of the SMC Pentax 1:3.5/135. Arnold What leads you to believe that the SMC Pentax 1:1.2 50mm is the second or later version, and that it has better coatings than the other lens, which you feel is an earlier version? How can you tell which was produced first and that there is really any difference between them other than the way they're labeled? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: why do tele-lenses have ED glass
It's not just longer lenses but faster ones with bigger front elements. The acceptable F-ratio for controlling dispersion without ED type glass goes up (slower) the larger the front element regardless of the F-ratio. In simple achromatic systems the acceptable F-ratio is 3 at F/15. But if the front element goes up to 4 the ratio has to be F/20 or slower, while for 5 it goes to F/27 or so. So the focus dispersion problem is significantly higher for a 600/4 lens than a 600/5.6 or a 600/8 lens because the front element is around 6 instead of 4 or 3. The steeper the light path the worse the problem (faster the F-ratio). Kent Gittings Kent -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Fred Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 8:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: why do tele-lenses have ED glass does anyone know why tele-lenses have ED glass, and why wide angles do not? First: As I understand it, low dispersion glass can be used to help prevent color fringing (sometimes visible as a red or purple edge on a viewed object). Since the different wavelengths (colors) of light are refracted by ordinary glass at different angles, glass designed to prevent this dispersion of light rays is cleverly called LD (for Low Dispersion) glass or (if the marketing department has its way - g) ED (for Extra low Dispersion) glass. Then: Lenses with longer focal lengths are the ones that tend to disperse the red and purple ends of the spectrum the most, if not corrected (or minimized, actually). The weak point in my little explanation here is that I do not know why this is more of a problem for longer focal lengths than shorter. (Sorry.) I guess a little knowledge is a dangerous thing... So, my quick and dirty answer to your question, Frank, is that telephotos naturally produce more color fringing than wide-angles, so that they benefit more from the use of LD or ED glass, designed to minimize fringing. Just don't ask me to explain why it is the long lenses that produce the most color fringing - g. Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 50mm 1.2 (compilation)
I'm curious as to how natural that line or plane of focus looks to all of y'alls more experienced eyes? It seems pretty crescent or horn shaped and I'm having trouble visualizing what causes it. And is it possible we're just looking at photoshop enhancement done very badly? Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] I can't believe the distortion in those last two shots! Hang the resolution. Give me a natural appearance any day of the week. Collin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Our delivery, part2
The delivery actually arrived today, around 30 mins ago. It will take an hour to check in, uninterrupted. All the Pentax parts will go out tomorrow. Including an 85mm F1.4A*, for some lucky fellow. Kind regards Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Rechargeable (2CR5) for PZ-1p
When I was doing those Nimh tsts I also mesured the amperage of the cells, the best alkaline battery testd at 1.6V 40~50 ma, a 1600 mah nimh battery was 1.3v 130-140 ma, now remember your puttting 4 of these in a fg battery pack, so 4 regular or rechargable alkalines will provide 160-200 ma to the camera, now 4 nimh or nicads are powering 560 ma to the camera, if they built it to be powered by a higher voltage lower amperage source and you double/triple the apmerage it is only a matter of time before you burn something in it. No rechargables in my MZ-3, the flashes can use them all they want, since I change the AA's in the MZ-3 every 3 months but the flahses nightly --- Kent Gittings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having been in this field longer than your brother I think you may have not posed the correct question. We aren't taking about voltage but the amount of current a given battery technology can sink across a give load value. A circuit has the same amount of current flow as long as the ohm value of the load and the voltage of the source remain constant. However in a camera the load seen is high (low current) when only the metering is operating. When the motordrive kicks in the power source has to be able to increase it's current flow to power the startup torque and running of the motor. The only way to do this is to suddenly have the battery see a lower load (fewer ohms of resistance). Various battery technologies have different peak current supply capabilities. If the camera maker wants to use this as part of the protection circuitry of the camera they will specify a limited battery type for the camera. Using rechargeables is only a problem in the voltage area if the electronics need to run close to the voltage produced by x number of alkalines or other specified types. If the camera has power regulation down to a something like 4 volts from 4 AA alkalines then 4 NiCads at 4.8 will work. On the otherhand if the camera maker says not to use NiMH or Lithium-Ion batteries it generally means that prolonged use of higher current capable battery technologies will eventually burn out some of the electronics because they were using the source current limit as part of the design process. Especially if the manual says something like use of battery types not specified can void the warranty. Kent Gittings __ Send your holiday cheer with http://greetings.yahoo.ca - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 50mm/1.2 Variations
Just curious about the serial numbers of the different K50/1.2 variations. Can someone post the SNs for their K50/1.2s and let me know if it's an early or late model. Thanks! My K 50/1.2 lacks the mm after the 1:1.2/50, and it has the SN of 12038nn. I just took a look at some of my K2 literature, and the 50/1.2 that is shown on the front covers and on the inside photos of both the large K2/KX/KM brochure and the large Asahi Pentax K2 brochure that I have lacks the mm and has the SN of 1734686. The K2 that I saw in a dream back in 1975 had a K 50/1.2 mounted to it, but I didn't notice if it had the mm or not, and the SN was a bit fuzzy... Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Thank you (re: LX advice)
Malcolm;-) And Cotty, after only 2 hours of ownership, Malcolm has the wink. Regards, Bob S. ;-) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: Adobe Photoshop Elements
I hate the bundled imaging software that came with my Pacific Image PrimeFilm scanner. I've been thinking about getting Photoshop Elements, and need some help. Can anyone here (especially anyone who uses the PrimeFilm and PE) give advice on your satisfaction? Are there other programs I should be considering? Much thanks to anyone responding. Best regards, Chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 50mm/1.2 Variations
Just curious about the serial numbers of the different K50/1.2 variations. Can someone post the SNs for their K50/1.2s and let me know if it's an early or late model. Thanks! You know, Shel, what we really need is for Gerjan (or somebody) to put out a K-mount book with at least the same amount of detail as he put into his Ultimate Asahi Pentax Screw Mount Guide. It would provide all kinds of fodder for us equipment junkies to mull over, and it would also be just enough to make a working photographer puke, as well. In short, it would get the damned job done... ;-) (I'm sorry if my LX wink is not very good - I'm only an amateur.) Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Our delivery, part2
Good news Peter! Can't wait to try out the new LX screens... By the way, not to make anyone jealous, but the 85mm is for me! This will be a happy xmas it turns out! Brendan MacRae - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 50mm/1.2 Variations
LOL Actually, I was thinking along those lines last night while reading Cecchi's book. The thing about getting the damned job done is that, with a full understanding of the equipment, especially lenses and their various iterations and differences, you're able to get the job done with more precision and with better ability to see your vision in the final result. What an annoyance it might be to expect a nice, smooth bokeh and get some nauseating background instead, or only after an assignment discovering that the colors of your photos don't match well because you used lenses that gave slightly different color castes. Knowing your equipment is one requisite for getting the job done well. ;-) ;-) ;-) (-; (-; (-; [practicing winking with both eyes] Fred wrote: You know, Shel, what we really need is for Gerjan (or somebody) to put out a K-mount book with at least the same amount of detail as he put into his Ultimate Asahi Pentax Screw Mount Guide. It would provide all kinds of fodder for us equipment junkies to mull over, and it would also be just enough to make a working photographer puke, as well. In short, it would get the damned job done... ;-) (I'm sorry if my LX wink is not very good - I'm only an amateur.) -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 50mm/1.2 Variations
19 Dec 01, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just curious about the serial numbers of the different K50/1.2 variations. Can someone post the SNs for their K50/1.2s and let me know if it's an early or late model. Thanks! --- Shel Belinkoff Shel, I have two K50 1.2's SMC PENTAX 1:1.2 50mm Serial Number 1467330 and SMC PENTAX 1:1.2 50mm Serial Number 1444624. Neither has the /. Both have the mm. The recent threads concerning with-n-without /mm is the first I've heard that two versions existed, so I'm hardly the authority to confirm that mine are early or late models. But I'm assuming from this new info that they are both examples of the later model. Regards, Tim Engel - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Adobe Photoshop Elements
Hi Chris, I've used Elements with the PrimeFilm Scanner and it works just fine. I do have to be honest and say that I haven't used Elements too much since I do have Photoshop but tried it out of curiosity and acquiring was just as smooth as Photoshop. I believe there is currently a rebate promo going on right now where you can get $30 back on the purchase making it come out to $69. Adobe has a 30 demo you can download: http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshopel/demoreg.html Good luck! Delano on 12/19/01 10:00 AM, Chris Niesmertelny at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hate the bundled imaging software that came with my Pacific Image PrimeFilm scanner. I've been thinking about getting Photoshop Elements, and need some help. Can anyone here (especially anyone who uses the PrimeFilm and PE) give advice on your satisfaction? Are there other programs I should be considering? Much thanks to anyone responding. Best regards, Chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 50mm 1.2
Arnold wrote: ... Whether the coatings of the different versions differ much I am not sure, but the coating of my SMC Pentax 1:1.2 50mm surely looks different from the coatings of the SMC Pentax 1:1.8/85 and of the SMC Pentax 1:3.5/135. Arnold -- I think also lenses of the same generations may have individual coatings. I have an old style SMC Pentax 1:2.8 30 (serial number starts with 53) that has blue-ish turquoise looking coatings. It is very different from the coatings of the (old style K-)SMC Pentax 1:1.4/50 (which I sold). BTW the A lenses (and FA lenses) have a different (and in my view superior) color rendition compared to K and M lenses, particularly the blue tones. This is probably due to changes in their coatings. I made some side by side shots with the (new style) K-SMC Pentax 1:3.5 18mm (serial number starts with 55) and the FA24mm/2 lens; the differences (in slides) are quite obvious, particularly regading blue tones (though the 18mm has a non-removable 1A filter, but both lenses tend to warmer color tones ... ). IMO the blue tones tend to be grey-ish on slides taken with K- (and M-)lenses (an exception is the 30mm lens). I decided for the A-version of the 1.2/50mm because of this. Enjoy, Alexander Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: 50mm/1.2 Variations
The / was a carryover from the Takumar days. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tim Engel Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 11:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 50mm/1.2 Variations 19 Dec 01, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just curious about the serial numbers of the different K50/1.2 variations. Can someone post the SNs for their K50/1.2s and let me know if it's an early or late model. Thanks! --- Shel Belinkoff Shel, I have two K50 1.2's SMC PENTAX 1:1.2 50mm Serial Number 1467330 and SMC PENTAX 1:1.2 50mm Serial Number 1444624. Neither has the /. Both have the mm. The recent threads concerning with-n-without /mm is the first I've heard that two versions existed, so I'm hardly the authority to confirm that mine are early or late models. But I'm assuming from this new info that they are both examples of the later model. Regards, Tim Engel - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
bye for now
Happy holidays all, I'm unsubscribing for my trip back to England. Regards, /\/\ick... - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 50mm 1.2
Shel wrote: and Alexander Krohe wrote: From what I have seen these second versions have constantly higher serial numbers Actually I was not referring to the serial numbers of the K-series 50 mm lenses (which are different from the serial numbers other K-lenses). I was referring to the serial numbers of the other lenses except the 50mm lenses g. I may be wrong but, the old style K-series lenses without 'mm' seem to have mostly serial number starting with 51-53 (54?), while the serial number of the new style lenses appear to start with 55 or higher. This is not true for the K- 50 mm lenses which all have serial numbers starting with 1. Alexander Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Adobe Photoshop Elements
How much do you want to spend and how sophisticated are you (or do you want to be)? For about $100 or less PhotoShop Elements is good and fairly easy to learn and use, but is limited in that you cannot work in CMYK or LAB color spaces. For the same price range Corel PhotoPaint (an older version - most likely 9) will do most/much of what PhotoShop 6 will do, and Paint Shop Pro is another competitor but the learning curve is steeper. Maris - Original Message - From: Chris Niesmertelny [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 10:00 AM Subject: OT: Adobe Photoshop Elements | I hate the bundled imaging software that came with my Pacific Image | PrimeFilm scanner. I've been thinking about getting Photoshop Elements, and | need some help. Can anyone here (especially anyone who uses the PrimeFilm | and PE) give advice on your satisfaction? Are there other programs I should | be considering? | | Much thanks to anyone responding. | | Best regards, | Chris | - | This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, | go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to | visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . | - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Rechargeable (2CR5) for PZ-1p
No Way may be correct. However, the relative voltages my not be the issue here. Of more interest at high duty cycles/loads or in case of component failure maybe short circuit current capability, which relates to the internal resistance of the different types of battery cells under high load conditions. Any one know out there happen to have info on the relative short circuit characteristics of NiCd, NiMH, Alkaline, Lithium etc. cells? Cold there be circumstances where one or more of these sources delivers more current than some older designs provided for? Otis Wright Ryan Charron wrote: Hello to All, My brother has been in electronics for over 25 years and he told me there is No Way that a rechargable could damage a camera motor. Rechargables always have a little less voltage than the regular batteries they replace. (1.25 volts to 1.5 volts for instance) To settle the issue, I have been using rechargables in my AA holder on my ZX5n and have had No Problems. A Rechargable Fan, Ryan Somebody wrote: mentioned that the hardness (high current output under big drain) of NiCd or big NiMH might damage the motor or something, is this really true? Although I don't have this camera, I have made batterypacks for almost everything photo-electric I have (mostly using old notebook batteries, a friend tested them and selected the best for me, suprising how they hold), so it's a curiosity-question. Good light, Frantisek - - Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Got a free A50/1.4
I hate you both ;-) On Wednesday 19 December 2001 06:39, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: Congrats. Maybe now people will hate someone besides me. :) Collin - Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 22:11:53 -0800 (PST) From: Juan J. Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Got a free A50/1.4 Another bargain: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1311704013 -- Kenneth Archer + San Antonio, Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ #24980801 Powered by Linux ++ Mailed by Kmail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 50mm 1.2
Alexander Krohe wrote: BTW the A lenses (and FA lenses) have a different (and in my view superior) color rendition compared to K and M lenses, particularly the blue tones. I agree. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Adobe Photoshop Elements
Maris, good questions. I'm still a newbie WRT scanning and digital imaging. I'll want to be as sophisticated as I have time for, which currently is not much, but as far as cost is concerned, I'll pay what something is worth but not for bells/whistles and capabilities I'll never use. Reviews I've read of Photoshop Elements leads me to believe it may be the right fit for me, easy to understand and use, capable with some study. Most programs seem to be on one side of the bell curve or the other, either exceedingly simplistic or incredibly complex. But the problem is, until I sit down and really start working at it, I don't have any idea what I need (I just know it ain't currently what I've got! If I have to restart this computer ONE MORE TIME because of the stupid software...!) Chris How much do you want to spend and how sophisticated are you (or do you want to be)? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Adobe Photoshop Elements
Chris, I use the latest version of Paint Shop Pro for my digital darkroom work. It is a very full-featured program. Steve's Digicams says that it is ...a close second to PhotoShop [the full version, not elements] in power and popularity as a photo editing tool with plugin support. Here is a link to Steve's page on editors: http://www.steves-digicams.com/digsoftware.html#editors One area where Paint Shop Pro lags Photoshop is in professional-grade workflow color management. I'm almost certain that the color management in Photoshop Elements is also lacking in this area, though. Can anyone else confirm or deny this? --Mark -Chris Wrote-- I hate the bundled imaging software that came with my Pacific Image PrimeFilm scanner. I've been thinking about getting Photoshop Elements, and need some help. Can anyone here (especially anyone who uses the PrimeFilm and PE) give advice on your satisfaction? Are there other programs I should be considering? Much thanks to anyone responding. Best regards, Chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Adobe Photoshop Elements
Thanks, Delano! I did see that demo and started to download it before my computer CRASHED AGAIN. I'll have to check it out later. Chris Adobe has a 30 demo you can download: http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshopel/demoreg.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Adobe Photoshop Elements
Download the Photoshop Elements trial and try it out. Then (or now if you want) get the CorelDRAW 9 Graphics Suite which includes Corel PhotoPaint 9 for $43.00 http://www.directdeals.com/product.asp?id=461 - it will give you an excellent idea of what the full PS6 will do but it's not as sophisticated. I started with PhotoPaint before Elements was out and then tried out Elements later and for my workflow I preferred PhotoPaint because I could work in CMYK - I read Dan Margulis's Professional Photoshop 5 and found I could adjust skin-tones much better in CMYK than I could in RGB, but Elements does have a feature called Variations where you can do a good job of adjusting brightness and color. See which way of working works best for you. Maris - Original Message - From: Chris Niesmertelny [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 11:16 AM Subject: Re: Adobe Photoshop Elements | Maris, good questions. | I'm still a newbie WRT scanning and digital imaging. I'll want to be as | sophisticated as I have time for, which currently is not much, but as far as | cost is concerned, I'll pay what something is worth but not for | bells/whistles and capabilities I'll never use. Reviews I've read of | Photoshop Elements leads me to believe it may be the right fit for me, | easy to understand and use, capable with some study. Most programs seem to | be on one side of the bell curve or the other, either exceedingly simplistic | or incredibly complex. But the problem is, until I sit down and really | start working at it, I don't have any idea what I need (I just know it ain't | currently what I've got! If I have to restart this computer ONE MORE TIME | because of the stupid software...!) | | Chris | | | | | How much do you want to spend and how sophisticated are you (or do you want | to be)? | - | This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, | go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to | visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . | | - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Snow-pictures
Snow even here today - in the middle of Sweden!! It's a real snowstorm outside. Hopefully there will be some good light tomorrow to do some photography. I have to admit that I'm still a beginner. What is your experience from taking pictures in all this whiteness. Is there anything important to think about? Thanks Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 50mm/1.2 Variations
Finally, Doug, I think you have come around to the conventional way of thinking ;-) On Wednesday 19 December 2001 11:32, Doug Brewer wrote: So keep this in mind, you young photographers out there: unless you have five versions of every lens and can recite MTF data for every one of them, you suck as a photographer and should explore other hobbies. And don't even =think= photography is about photographs. Doug Ashwood Lake Photography http://www.alphoto.com -- Kenneth Archer + San Antonio, Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ #24980801 Powered by Linux ++ Mailed by Kmail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Adobe Photoshop Elements
Chris, You should also look at Paintshop Pro (www.jasc.com). I have tried just about everything, including elements and feel that for general photo editing, it works very well. It doesn't have quite the graphic artist manipulation capabilities of Photoshop (full version), but is only $100 versus $600 for Photoshop. I believe you can get a trial of both Elements and Paintshop Pro. That is the best way - test for yourself. I did and found that Paintshop Pro fit my needs and usage best. Good luck, Bruce Dayton Wednesday, December 19, 2001, 8:00:08 AM, you wrote: CN I hate the bundled imaging software that came with my Pacific Image CN PrimeFilm scanner. I've been thinking about getting Photoshop Elements, and CN need some help. Can anyone here (especially anyone who uses the PrimeFilm CN and PE) give advice on your satisfaction? Are there other programs I should CN be considering? CN Much thanks to anyone responding. CN Best regards, CN Chris CN - CN This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, CN go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to CN visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Adobe Photoshop Elements
Maris V. Lidaka, Sr. wrote: Paint Shop Pro may have a demo-download available, too - I know they did in the past. They do: http://jasc.com/ I like PSP for the few things I do. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Got a free A50/1.4
On Wed, 19 Dec 2001, Ken Archer wrote: I hate you both ;-) It's just a matter of checking the newly started ebay auctions every once in a while. I do so at most once a day, and so far I've gotten a $50 K1000+50/2, a $50 K24/3.5, a $30 M28/3.5, and this $65 Program Plus+A50/1.4. But hate us, I'm sure Collin enjoys it as much as I do :-) j -- --- Juan J. Buhler | Sr. FX Animator @ PDI | Photos at http://www.jbuhler.com --- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Snow-pictures
If you are using slide film, open up one full stop from what your ttl meter is showing (unless you spot meter a middle-toned subject...). For print film I'm not sure Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Peter Smekal [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 1:13 PM Subject: Snow-pictures Snow even here today - in the middle of Sweden!! It's a real snowstorm outside. Hopefully there will be some good light tomorrow to do some photography. I have to admit that I'm still a beginner. What is your experience from taking pictures in all this whiteness. Is there anything important to think about? Thanks Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Saturation in ISO 400 C-41?
Joe, I would recommend you also consider Agfa Optima II 400 and Kodak Supra 400. I believe both are finer grained than those you mentioned and quite saturated. Bruce Dayton Wednesday, December 19, 2001, 9:43:07 AM, you wrote: JT It was 13 degrees this morning, so my thoughts are turning to warmer JT weather and the spring flower season. Here in New Mexico, spring is also JT the windy season, so high shutter speeds make macro work much easier JT while keeping some DOF. Last spring I shot Provia 400F with some nice JT results. This coming spring I'd like to try a relatively fine-grained JT ISO 400 color negative film. JT My question is: which gives the highest color saturation? Agfa Vista 400 JT and Superia Extra 400 look like possible candidates. Has anyone compared JT their color saturation? Are there other candidates I should consider? JT Thanks, JT Joe - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Met Art Wolfe
I suspect the reason he prefers zooms is the nature of his shots. When you're dealing with a flock of birds or a frolicking bear, you don't necessarily have the time to change lenses. Tom C. - Original Message - From: harald_nancy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 9:04 PM Subject: Met Art Wolfe Just happened to run into Art Wolfe, world renowned wildlife and outdoor photographer, this weekend in Seattle, Washington. If you don't know, this is his website: http://www.artwolfe.com/ Started talking a bit about outdoor photography, so I asked him What's your favorite lense? He asks, What camera are you using? I say, Pentax. His eyes light up, Ah, Medium format. (one of his cameras is a Pentax Med. Format). No, I say, 35mm. I was kind of surprised that his favorite lense right now for 35mm is the super wide angle zoom 17-35 mm. Next favorite 70-200mm zoom. In his opinion modern pro-grade zooms have advanced to such a degree that they are equal to primary lenses. He prefers them for composing. His results obviously speak for themselves. Just thought to share it with you. Harald - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 85mm vs 77mm, and 43mm
On Tuesday, December 18, 2001, at 08:25 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: On the other hand, most of us aren't involved in photography to do the damn job. We're having fun, playing with our toys. If one lens gives us a greater sense of pleasure, whether it be tactile, visual, or something else, then it serves our needs. I agree. I find the Pentax 67 and its lenses absolutely a joy to hold and operate, and as a result I enjoy making photographs even more. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 85mm vs 77mm, and 43mm
On Tuesday, December 18, 2001, at 08:38 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: What's wrong with using equipment that's satisfying on several levels? The same thing that's wrong with driving an automobile or wearing a shirt with buttons, Shel. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Thank you (re: LX advice)
Cotty, Mrs Malcolm is well aware of the implications of the LX wink, and is, in this case anyway, responsible for Malcolm acquiring said habit. Mrs Malcolm supplied the LX as a slightly early Christmas present. Felicity -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Cotty Sent: 19 December 2001 17:39 To: Pentax List Subject: Re: Thank you (re: LX advice) And Cotty, after only 2 hours of ownership, Malcolm has the wink. In the interest of Health and Safety, I think Mrs. Malcolm should be told. ;-) Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Adobe Photoshop Elements
No - I'm suggesting the learning curve for PSP is steeper than for Photoshop Elements, though from my recollection not as steep as for PS6 (I only tried it out as a demo about a year ago). Maris - Original Message - From: dave o'brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 3:58 AM Subject: Re: Adobe Photoshop Elements | On Wed, 19 Dec 2001, Maris V. Lidaka, Sr. wrote: | | color spaces. For the same price range Corel PhotoPaint (an older | version - most likely 9) will do most/much of what PhotoShop 6 will | do, and Paint Shop Pro is another competitor but the learning curve is | steeper. | | Surely you're not saying that the learning curve for PSP is steeper than | that for PS? I find it easier for simple things, but there are things | which only PS will do. | | dave | - | This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, | go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to | visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . | | - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: OT: Adobe Photoshop Elements
Me too although I've never bought the upgrades to go above my current version 5.03 as yet. I suppose the more digital work I dabble in the more I might be inclined to upgrade to the latest version. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of tom Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 4:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Adobe Photoshop Elements Maris V. Lidaka, Sr. wrote: Paint Shop Pro may have a demo-download available, too - I know they did in the past. They do: http://jasc.com/ I like PSP for the few things I do. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Met Art Wolfe
True, but in his book The Art of Photographing Nature (get it Art hahaha) he describes how he likes new high-quality zooms because it gives him the ability to crop and compose easily and quickly. Not necessarily because the subjects are moving. Incidentally, I am extremely jealous. Art Wolfe's book has helped my issues with composition. My exposures were perfect but my compositions sucked. Art Wolfe (and John Shaw) taught me how to slow down, and see the whole picture and take apart each element to improve my composition. Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: aimcompute [EMAIL PROTECTED] I suspect the reason he prefers zooms is the nature of his shots. When you're dealing with a flock of birds or a frolicking bear, you don't necessarily have the time to change lenses. Tom C. - Original Message - From: harald_nancy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just happened to run into Art Wolfe, world renowned wildlife and outdoor photographer, this weekend in Seattle, Washington. If you don't know, this is his website: http://www.artwolfe.com/ Started talking a bit about outdoor photography, so I asked him What's your favorite lense? He asks, What camera are you using? I say, Pentax. His eyes light up, Ah, Medium format. (one of his cameras is a Pentax Med. Format). No, I say, 35mm. I was kind of surprised that his favorite lense right now for 35mm is the super wide angle zoom 17-35 mm. Next favorite 70-200mm zoom. In his opinion modern pro-grade zooms have advanced to such a degree that they are equal to primary lenses. He prefers them for composing. His results obviously speak for themselves. Just thought to share it with you. Harald - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Met Art Wolfe
Actually I think what he is saying is what a lot of wildlife shooters say about the difference between primes and current zooms is that the results are indistinguishable between a fast 200 prime and a pro level 80-200 zoom at 200mm. Not to say they don't have some differences but that they can't be seen on the film they are shooting. I know in my case I can't tell the difference between shots made with my old Pentax SMC 200/2.5 and my current Sigma EX 70-200/2.8 at 200mm. But remember these guys aren't talking about using zooms in place of 300-800mm primes but in place of 200mm and under ones. Except in the case of digital when an 80-200/2.8 zoom would be used instead of a 300/2.8 prime due to the multiplication factor. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of aimcompute Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 10:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Met Art Wolfe I suspect the reason he prefers zooms is the nature of his shots. When you're dealing with a flock of birds or a frolicking bear, you don't necessarily have the time to change lenses. Tom C. - Original Message - From: harald_nancy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 9:04 PM Subject: Met Art Wolfe Just happened to run into Art Wolfe, world renowned wildlife and outdoor photographer, this weekend in Seattle, Washington. If you don't know, this is his website: http://www.artwolfe.com/ Started talking a bit about outdoor photography, so I asked him What's your favorite lense? He asks, What camera are you using? I say, Pentax. His eyes light up, Ah, Medium format. (one of his cameras is a Pentax Med. Format). No, I say, 35mm. I was kind of surprised that his favorite lense right now for 35mm is the super wide angle zoom 17-35 mm. Next favorite 70-200mm zoom. In his opinion modern pro-grade zooms have advanced to such a degree that they are equal to primary lenses. He prefers them for composing. His results obviously speak for themselves. Just thought to share it with you. Harald - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Met Art Wolfe
In the book I mentioned before Art gives a 200-400 N a real workout. Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Kent Gittings [EMAIL PROTECTED] But remember these guys aren't talking about using zooms in place of 300-800mm primes but in place of 200mm and under ones. Kent Gittings - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Met Art Wolfe
or a frolicking bear, you don't necessarily have the time to change lenses. Tom C. Or underwear I presume. Sorry! Malcolm - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: 50mm/1.2 Variations
unless you have five versions of every lens and can recite MTF data for every one of them, [snip] OK, Doug, but just don't get us started on Photodo MTF results bashing - g. Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 50mm/1.2 Variations
Doug wrote: So keep this in mind, you young photographers out there: unless you have five versions of every lens and can recite MTF data for every one of them, you suck as a photographer and should explore other hobbies. And don't even =think= photography is about photographs. To me it's not so black-and-white as this. On one hand I agree with Doug that the final image one produces should be the determining factor as to whether or not your equipment is satisfactory, but on the other hand, I too am a gear head, and can't help but be interested in and noticing the subtle differences produced by variations of similar lenses. I love owning finest fastest lenses available; however, being recently converted from Olympus, most of what I consider to be my best images were produced on slower single-coated older prime zuiko lenses, such as the 35mm f/2.8. Although I owned faster, newer, more expensive glass, I almost always made my best shots with this or similar lenses. Surely there is middle ground, or some gray area in this issue. Can't I enjoy the equipment, and also separate myself from a direct correlation of knowledge and ownership of equipment and good photography? Almost all my best medium format images have been made with a finicky unimproved Kiev 60, but I'm dying to own the Rollei 6008i. Would it improve my images? Maybe. Do I need it to get the job I'm doing (fine family portraiture) done? Definitely not. My non-photographic family are stunned with the quality of my shots, since they're used to point-and-shoot snapshots, or unimaginative department store portraits. Switching to the Rollei system would tickle my gearhead inner self, but would most likely have little effect on the final product as relates to my market. This is different from person to person. One side or the other isn't the right answer. It's an individual choice based on wants and needs. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: Met Art Wolfe
Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] True, but in his book The Art of Photographing Nature (get it Art hahaha) he describes how he likes new high-quality zooms because it gives him the ability to crop and compose easily and quickly. [snip] Art Wolfe's book has helped my issues with composition. My exposures were perfect but my compositions sucked. I just recently bought this book and it is very educational. If you were to learn one thing from each set of pictures in that book and apply it to your own photography...well, you'd be a pretty darned good nature photographer when you finished. Brent Hutto - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Canon F1n vs. Pentax LX
Hello all... I am new to the list so I want to say hello to all of you and introduce myself. My name is Brendan MacRae, 32 yrs, live in Northern California (bliss)...Pentax nut for many, many years. Owned K1000, P30t, Zx-5n, MX, and LX. Last night my Dad was over. He's a Canon guy since the 1970's. He's been a photog since his army days...well, actually since his Eagle Scout days at the Philmont Ranch in New Mexico. Later, he shot with a Speed Graphic and Yashica D for a couple of tiny LA papers in the late 50's and early 60's. Anyway, like I said, he's a Canon guy and he used to love his A-1 bodies. He had a T-90 that he sold about a year ago when it died and he loved that body, too. He won't switch over to the EOS system because he doesn't want to give up his FD lenses (and says he'll never forgive Canon for the switch!). He really admires my LX and thinks the SMC lenses are works of art. When I told him that Canon had a similar body to the LX in the F1n he was intrigued. He bought one and he loves it. He just got his second body last night with a power winder and another AE prism. I had a chance to really fumble around with that body and here are my impressions of it versus the LX. Firstly, it is a very stout body. It feels very solid and is no doubt a rugged photographic tool. It's easier than the LX to change screens since they drop in from the top under the prism. The layout of the controls is nice, and the matte black finish is attractive and unique but harder to keep clean than the LX. The DOF preview is not as easy to use as the LX's and the camera is heavier and larger. The prism has a viewfinder blind which I can take or leave. The viewfinder the LX is the shure winner. The exposure information on the F1n is analog and sometimes hard to see. I've never had that problem with the LED's in the LX viewfinder. The winder is nice and is a bit more featured than the Winder LX. Although it does feature it's own frame counter it seems redundant to me. It counts down from 36, or 24, or 12...or wherever you want but I found it tricky to set as the wheel is small. It has it's own shutter release which is a plus over the LX Winder plus another release for portrait orientation (nice!). Also, unlike the LX and the Nikon F3, the Canon can be used in Shutter Priority AE with the Winder or Motor drive attached. For those of you who have the SMC-A lenses and an LX body you may be hearing a Beach Boys tune right now...Wouldn't it be nice... Overall however, the design of the F1 is clunkier than the LX. It's not nearly as intuitive to use and although the Canon FD lenses are numerous and very well made, I can't help thinking the LX can handle anything the F1 can. Let me know what you think. Brendan - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: European mail order
Hi, you've got a good memory! When I bought my Pentax ringflash in 1999 I think I compared prices at various places and found that it was cheaper for me to get it from I think Ravensburger Fotoversand in Germany. It was at least £150- cheaper than in the UK. The actual price was slightly cheaper in the US than in Germany, but shipping, VAT and duty pushed the figure above the German price. I didn't do a general survey in any way, and for some photographic equipment the prices in Germany and the UK are the same. For buying film you might try www.7dayshop.com, which is very good compared to UK prices because of some loophole whereby they don't pay VAT in the Channel Islands, which is the bricks mortar location of the company. I don't think it's possible to say 'xxx is cheaper for Pentax'. It seems to vary with the particular thing you want and when you want it. In the UK of course we're pretending that there's no such thing as the Euro; as usual the rest of Europe is out of step with us g. When we switched from groats to decimal currency in the early 1970s prices went up because people were too confused to realise. The same thing may well happen in Euroland. --- Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wednesday, December 19, 2001, 9:49:53 AM, you wrote: Less than 2 weeks to the official launch of the Euro - should simplify price comparisons and bargain hunting across Europe. Can anyone recommend reliable mail order houses within Europe. I remember some discussion quite awhile ago about some place in Germany (I think that Bob Walkden did some comparisons with UK prices???) Who offers the best Pentax and fikm prices - are there savings to be had in buying larger quantities of Velvia by mail order? regards, Pat - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT:Epson scanner
Just wondering if anyone has experience with a scanner i'm thinking about getting for a Christmas gift to me. Its the Epson 1250,(i think,flyer is missing)and claims 1200 x 2400 dpi,48 bit colour,USB etc with the much talked about/trashed and hated transparancy adaptor. Is the dpi going to be that much better than tyhe 600x1200's out there(i assume it will)but more intereted in personal experiences rather than store written testimonials. Thanks in advance Dave(as soon as it stops raining this week,hopes to try out his newly aquired S3,55:1.8,135:3.5 and 200:4)Brooks Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Picture mounting and framing...
Ed Mathews wrote: Plus I'd get fingerprints all over the acetate. Not a problem for me. I must keep my fingers cleaner than you do for some reason. :) It ain't my fault, it's all those dirty brides. Happy? Not really, I have a bit of a headache and Jeepgirl hasn't spoken to me in at least a month. Plus this stupid cell phone I bought today seems to have a battery life of maybe 6 minutes. You need to cognitively re-appraise this situation: Jeepgirl is married now, and you'd just get yourself into trouble if she was talking to you. I talk to you, and you're married... No, we're just friends, I swear! Sure, he played with my zoom, but it was platonic! And the longer you talk on a cell phone, the more it costs. And have you ever heard that phrase, Please hit me over the head with a hammer, because it feels so goo when you stop.? You said 'goo'. snort tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Met Art Wolfe
Christian Skofteland wrote: In the book I mentioned before Art gives a 200-400 N a real workout. Art Wolfe uses Canon and Mamiya these days. I'll bet he's using that 100-400 IS (or whatever it is) quite a bit. I'd use it too if it were free... On a side note, Art Wolfe was a speaker at Grandfather Mountain Photo Weekend a few years ago. The implication here is that if you come to GMPW *this* coming year, I can absolutely gaurantee that there will be someone there who will talk about nature photography and will show actual pictures. I swear. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Mir 47-K 20 mm. 2.5 user's manual?
Hello all: Today I received the MC Mir 47-K 20 mm. 2.5 I purchased some days ago through Ebay. The user's manual comes in Russian, and I would like to know if there is a translated version, in English, French, Spanish or Portuguese,... somewhere in the Internet, or if some of you have one you could scan or photocopy for me. Best wishes, -- Carlos Royo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Zaragoza (Aragon) - Spain -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Met Art Wolfe
I wrote: The implication here is that if you come to GMPW *this* coming year, I can absolutely gaurantee that there will be someone there who will talk about nature photography and will show actual pictures. To be more specific, the big name guy will be Bill Fortney, who's done a book called America from 500 Feet. You can find it on Amazon, and I think he'll be on the Today show pretty soon. The #2 guy will be our own Mark Roberts, who's done a book called The PDML from too Damned Close, featuring photos of Dr. Pepper bottles and guys standing around and staring at camera lenses. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: ES-10 film scanner ?
E. van Ginkel wrote: It's a nice cheap scanner with a solid feel to it. I have one and the scans look nice, but there is one major drawback. It slow beyond belief. Its a parrallelport scanner and it takes about 11 minutes to make an scan on its highest (1770dpi) resolution. The software is not all that bad maybe a bit too Windows 3.1-ish. The PC the scanner is connected to is a 1GHz AMD Thunderbird with 512mb of memory, so thats is not the one which slows it down. Some years ago I had the chance to try one of these scanners and it didn't scan so slowly. Perhaps you should check the configuration of your computer BIOS, and see if you have configured your parallel port as compatible (i.e. slow unidirectional mode). In that case, you should change the PC parallel port mode to ECP, this is the bidirectional mode, much faster, which uses a DMA (direct memory access) channel, usually DMA channel 3 or 1, to speed up the access to the devices you connect to such port. Regards, -- Carlos Royo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Zaragoza (Aragon) - Spain -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Rechargeable (2CR5) for PZ-1p
I think you are slightly mistaken in your figures (I am being polite). The current of four batteries in series is the same as one battery, but the voltage is 4 times as high. For batteries in parallel have 4x the current but the voltage stays the same as one battery. However, the question of whether rechargeable will hurt the equipment is a matter of whether the manufacture was depending on the internal resistance (high on alkalines, low on rechargeables) for current limiting, or has built current limiting into the circuit (more expensive). A battery will deliver current proportional to its load, and if there is no external load that is the internal resistance. A dead shorted ni-cad AA will deliver about an amp for a couple of minutes. Long enough to melt the battery and maybe the equipment it is in, and that kind of current can destroy integrated circuits in micro-seconds. So, if the manufacture did not design the equipment to use rechargeables you may have a problem, a very real problem. On the other hand sometimes they just tell you not to use rechargeables to limit their liability, or to try and make you buy their own battery pack, and the equipment is perfectly capable of handling them. Ciao, graywolf - Original Message - From: Brendan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 10:28 AM Subject: RE: Rechargeable (2CR5) for PZ-1p When I was doing those Nimh tsts I also mesured the amperage of the cells, the best alkaline battery testd at 1.6V 40~50 ma, a 1600 mah nimh battery was 1.3v 130-140 ma, now remember your puttting 4 of these in a fg battery pack, so 4 regular or rechargable alkalines will provide 160-200 ma to the camera, now 4 nimh or nicads are powering 560 ma to the camera, if they built it to be powered by a higher voltage lower amperage source and you double/triple the apmerage it is only a matter of time before you burn something in it. No rechargables in my MZ-3, the flashes can use them all they want, since I change the AA's in the MZ-3 every 3 months but the flahses nightly - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Help with 6x7 battery
Paul, for portrait work, you might find the 165/2.8 to be ideal. It comes in early and late versions, and with or without a leaf shutter. The early version has the long grooves or flutes on the focussing ring, while the late version has the rubber checker pattern. Pat White - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Thank you (re: LX advice)
Felicity, You're a peach and Malcolm should appreciate you! Regards, Bob S. ;-) Mrs. Felicity Smith wrote: Cotty, Mrs Malcolm is well aware of the implications of the LX wink, and is, in this case anyway, responsible for Malcolm acquiring said habit. Mrs Malcolm supplied the LX as a slightly early Christmas present. Felicity - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 50mm/1.2 Variations
Naw, as you very well know, its about getting kids to smile happily when they are in a strange place, with a bunch of strange people, and a lot of strange stuff all of it pointed at them. If you can do that you can get a good photo with anything that will expose film. Ciao, graywolf - Original Message - From: Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 12:32 PM Subject: Re: 50mm/1.2 Variations So keep this in mind, you young photographers out there: unless you have five versions of every lens and can recite MTF data for every one of them, you suck as a photographer and should explore other hobbies. And don't even =think= photography is about photographs. Doug Ashwood Lake Photography http://www.alphoto.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Needing a AF500FTZ
Thanks for your free advertising, Flavio. I sold the flash on Monday, to a member of the PDML. The MZ-5 and SFX are still avaliable, though. -- Carlos Royo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Zaragoza (Aragon) - Spain -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Canon F1n v Pentax LX
Brendan. I loved the F1n. An ugly old brute, but superbly versatile and a good range of fast optics. Spot meter via focus screens, worked in the rain (unlike the T90), lighted match needle display for available light shooting. Didn't really have any faults, apart from being an old clunker. Only wish Pentax had put spot on the LX. Kind regards Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Saturation in ISO 400 C-41?
Joseph Tainter wrote: My question is: which gives the highest color saturation? Agfa Vista 400 and Superia Extra 400 look like possible candidates. Has anyone compared their color saturation? Are there other candidates I should consider? I don't shoot colour negative film very often, but my wife does. Once said this, in the process of getting used to the MZ-S, I have used several negative films, and I tried the Agfa Vista 400. It is saturated, but it is also the worst Agfa film I've ever tried, it is grainy, not sharp at all, and its lack of contrast sucks. I have also (and my wife has used it a lot in the last pair of years) used Superia, both in 100 and 400 ISO speeds. The 400 Superia is an excellent film, it yields very good colour, saturated but not unnatural, and the grain is not noticeable, even in the enlargments we've had done, although those are not big (18x24 cm., I think). It also scans very well. -- Carlos Royo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Zaragoza (Aragon) - Spain -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Thank you (re: LX advice)
Well thanks for posting that!! I'll never hear the end of it now!! ;-) Malcolm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 December 2001 20:57 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Thank you (re: LX advice) Felicity, You're a peach and Malcolm should appreciate you! Regards, Bob S. ;-) Mrs. Felicity Smith wrote: Cotty, Mrs Malcolm is well aware of the implications of the LX wink, and is, in this case anyway, responsible for Malcolm acquiring said habit. Mrs Malcolm supplied the LX as a slightly early Christmas present. Felicity - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Dec PUG comments for Theriault, Osojnik
Jaume, being a little late with reply, thanks for your comment. I'm no big fan of macro either, but decided to try out new glass in my collection, SMC Takumar 28/3,5 which goes a little beyond 1:1 when reversed. I took several shots of that ashtray but decided for this one exactly because of the texture it shows. I like the definition as Moon in Warhol's manner too. Thanks. As for other experiments, I took some night portraits at candle light but the results were to contrasty since I used Ilford HP5 at 3200 ASA which pushed the contrast to much. As well there were some close-up shots of CD collection in the rack with reversed M 50/1.7 that I like but I should clean CDs more carefully since there was some distracting dust visible. I might use one of them for the PUG some day. Thanks again, Matjaz Caught in the Glass by Matjaz Osojnik: I am (still) not really fan of macro, specially flowers or insects, but sometimes there are patterns and textures that work very well on this kind of photography. And yours is an exemple. I would define it as a Moon in a kind of Andy Warhols way :-) Since it is about showing a texture, I cant think on improvement or suggestions in this one. Great idea and very good result, will you show us the rest of your experiments? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Auggie Wren's Christmas Story
Great idea to share Auggie's story, Shel. Smoke is one of my favorite movies. I went to see it 2 or 3 times when it was playing here and Auggie Wren's Christmas story really touched me. I love it. Great final touch to a great movie. Thanks for sharing it. Cao, Matjaz The holiday season is upon us once again. This year, as I did last year, I'd like to share a favorite story with the list. Perhaps it will be a welcome change from recent flames and arguments here, and stories about the war in Afghanistan, the poor economy, and other less-than-joyous events in the world. I hope you enjoy it. http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/xmas-story.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Adobe Photoshop Elements
Yup, that's the one. Cheesy is a very kind way to describe the package. Yes, it does the job, but I'm quite certain it can be done better, and without leaving my fingers greasy after use. The scanner is competent, if noisy and a bit slow, but it does exactly what I want it to do (at least, for the price, I can't complain). However, this thread has got me hungry. Time for snacks! Chris Clive remarked: I'm reading this thread with interest because the Primefilm looks to be the same box I bought here in the UK as a Microtek Filmscan 35. Not sure if the software bundle's the same, though - in addition to the Cyberview tool, mine came with something called Presto Imagefolio LE, which seems (to my unpractised hand) adequate but quite liberally sprinkled with Gruyere, Mozzarella and fine farmhouse Wensleydale. If I can be bothered to download 51MB, I may well give the Elements demo a run. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Adobe Photoshop Elements
Thanks for the info, Bruce. It looks like Paintshop Pro is a quicker download for the trial, so that's the one I'll be trying first. I appreciate your response! Regards, Chris Chris, You should also look at Paintshop Pro (www.jasc.com). I have tried just about everything, including elements and feel that for general photo editing, it works very well. It doesn't have quite the graphic artist manipulation capabilities of Photoshop (full version), but is only $100 versus $600 for Photoshop. I believe you can get a trial of both Elements and Paintshop Pro. That is the best way - test for yourself. I did and found that Paintshop Pro fit my needs and usage best. Good luck, Bruce Dayton Wednesday, December 19, 2001, 8:00:08 AM, you wrote: CN I hate the bundled imaging software that came with my Pacific Image CN PrimeFilm scanner. I've been thinking about getting Photoshop Elements, and CN need some help. Can anyone here (especially anyone who uses the PrimeFilm CN and PE) give advice on your satisfaction? Are there other programs I should CN be considering? CN Much thanks to anyone responding. CN Best regards, CN Chris CN - CN This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, CN go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to CN visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: OT: Adobe Photoshop Elements
Chris, One of my favorite features of PaintShop Pro is that for applying the same basic edits to multiple images (color correction, sharpening, etc.) it remembers the last settings used so if the changes are the same, it is very quick to use. The others I tried I had to remember the settings and reset for every image. Often, when I scan a roll, many of the corrections are the same or very close. Bruce Dayton Wednesday, December 19, 2001, 1:50:56 PM, you wrote: CN Thanks for the info, Bruce. It looks like Paintshop Pro is a quicker CN download for the trial, so that's the one I'll be trying first. CN I appreciate your response! CN Regards, CN Chris CN Chris, CN You should also look at Paintshop Pro (www.jasc.com). I have tried CN just about everything, including elements and feel that for general CN photo editing, it works very well. It doesn't have quite the graphic CN artist manipulation capabilities of Photoshop (full version), but is CN only $100 versus $600 for Photoshop. I believe you can get a trial of CN both Elements and Paintshop Pro. That is the best way - test for CN yourself. I did and found that Paintshop Pro fit my needs and usage CN best. CN Good luck, CN Bruce Dayton CN Wednesday, December 19, 2001, 8:00:08 AM, you wrote: CN I hate the bundled imaging software that came with my Pacific Image CN PrimeFilm scanner. I've been thinking about getting Photoshop Elements, CN and CN need some help. Can anyone here (especially anyone who uses the CN PrimeFilm CN and PE) give advice on your satisfaction? Are there other programs I CN should CN be considering? CN Much thanks to anyone responding. CN Best regards, CN Chris CN - CN This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, CN go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to CN visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . CN - CN This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, CN go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to CN visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . CN - CN This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, CN go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to CN visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 50mm/1.2 Variations
On 19 Dec 2001 at 7:04, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Just curious about the serial numbers of the different K50/1.2 variations. Can someone post the SNs for their K50/1.2s and let me know if it's an early or late model. Thanks! Hi Shel, My K50f1.2 reads 1:1.2 50mm, its serial number is 1468197 Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Rechargeable (2CR5) for PZ-1p
On 19 Dec 2001 at 10:28, Brendan wrote: When I was doing those Nimh tsts I also mesured the amperage of the cells, the best alkaline battery testd at 1.6V 40~50 ma, a 1600 mah nimh battery was 1.3v 130-140 ma, now remember your puttting 4 of these in a fg battery pack, so 4 regular or rechargable alkalines will provide 160-200 ma to the camera, now 4 nimh or nicads are powering 560 ma to the camera, if they built it to be powered by a higher voltage lower amperage source and you double/triple the apmerage it is only a matter of time before you burn something in it. No rechargables in my MZ-3, the flashes can use them all they want, since I change the AA's in the MZ-3 every 3 months but the flahses nightly Hi Brendan (and whomever else is interested), Sorry it doesn't work this way, the batteries are in series, consider voltage as the ~potential~ pressure available to push electrons thorough the circuit, stack the batteries (ie put them in series) and the potential pressure increases (in fact the voltage adds ie 4 x 1.2 for NiMH, 4 x 1.5 for Alkaline or 4 x 1.25 for NiCd) The current flow in any circuit is determined by the potential of the source (ie battery voltage), the internal resistance of the battery (determined by it's short circuit current potential) and the resistance of the circuit which is the load (ie camera, flash, motor etc). The battery and load resistances are always in series (resistances in series add ie create a higher resistance) so the maximum current that can be supplied is governed by Ohms law which is current (amperes) = voltage (volts) / resistance (ohms). Therefore the current can't be forced and usually in any device (excepting a very badly designed one) the current flow is less when used with rechargeable cells as the terminal voltage is lower. Generally (given the same sized cell) the internal resistance of a NiCd cell is lower than a NiMH which is lower than Alkaline which is lower than the old carbon cells, but the difference should only be noted under very large load current requirements (ie a low resistance load approaching what is effectively a short circuit). In short if any electronics engineer designs a circuit that factors the internal resistance of the battery into the design deserves to have a fried circuit on their hands, so it doesn't happen very often (and it would be very apparent in the field as not may users ever RTFM). There might be potential in a badly designed flash gun or motor drive for over-heating due to excessive current flow but it's not common. On the other hand there are now a range of devices on the market (mostly digital cameras) where they are designed specifically for use with NiMH or NiCd rechargable AA cell in which conventional AA Alkaline cells will fry the devices due to their comparatively high terminal voltages (hence they can cause excessive current flow). The battery rating in mAh is simply the absolute charge holding capacity of the battery like MB of hard disk, it has little to do with current flow in ordinary circumstances (ie AA use in photo equipment). It can be used to determine the potential life of the batteries charge for a given current drain, ie if you have a 1600mAh battery supplying a circuit which draws 100mA then the battery should theoretically last for 16hours before it is discharged. BTW the formula for power dissipated in a load is voltage (volts) x current (amperes) = power (watts) therefore power = voltage(squared) / resistance so a small change in terminal voltage has a large impact on power dissipated by the circuit. Sorry about the OT rant but there is no point discussing these sorts of things when there are fundamental misunderstandings of the laws. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Thank you (re: LX advice)
Cotty, Mrs Malcolm is well aware of the implications of the LX wink, and is, in this case anyway, responsible for Malcolm acquiring said habit. Mrs Malcolm supplied the LX as a slightly early Christmas present. Felicity Jumping Jehosaphat! Enables *and* supplies. What a woman! A joyful festive season and a peaceful new year to you both. ;-) Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Rechargeable (2CR5) for PZ-1p
Otis Wright, Jr. Wrote: Any one know out there happen to have info on the relative short circuit characteristics of NiCd, NiMH, Alkaline, Lithium etc. cells? Cold there be circumstances where one or more of these sources delivers more current than some older designs provided for? I can't speak to theoretical stuff like this, but I can speak practically. From past experience, I know that ordinary flashlights burn brighter with NiCad cells than with fresh alkaline cells. Flashlights are not running near the maximum current limit of the cells, but the internal resistance of the cell is a significant part of the power calculation for them. Things like motors tend to run a lot closer to the current limit of the cell when starting. While this may not be much of a problem for the motor itself, the control circuitry may not be able to handle the extra current without overheating. However, all this aside, I find it unlikely that the designers of the camera went so far as to use bench power supplies that emulated the internal resistance of a battery. Since a bench power supply can source tons more current than a typical small battery cell, there probably is a safe voltage at which the camera can be run no matter tha battery technology. No? later, patbob ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Rechargeable (2CR5) for PZ-1p
Well put and never, ever, under no circumstance, should anyone lick a light socket. :) - Original Message - From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 5:22 PM Subject: RE: Rechargeable (2CR5) for PZ-1p On 19 Dec 2001 at 10:28, Brendan wrote: When I was doing those Nimh tsts I also mesured the amperage of the cells, the best alkaline battery testd at 1.6V 40~50 ma, a 1600 mah nimh battery was 1.3v 130-140 ma, now remember your puttting 4 of these in a fg battery pack, so 4 regular or rechargable alkalines will provide 160-200 ma to the camera, now 4 nimh or nicads are powering 560 ma to the camera, if they built it to be powered by a higher voltage lower amperage source and you double/triple the apmerage it is only a matter of time before you burn something in it. No rechargables in my MZ-3, the flashes can use them all they want, since I change the AA's in the MZ-3 every 3 months but the flahses nightly Hi Brendan (and whomever else is interested), Sorry it doesn't work this way, the batteries are in series, consider voltage as the ~potential~ pressure available to push electrons thorough the circuit, stack the batteries (ie put them in series) and the potential pressure increases (in fact the voltage adds ie 4 x 1.2 for NiMH, 4 x 1.5 for Alkaline or 4 x 1.25 for NiCd) The current flow in any circuit is determined by the potential of the source (ie battery voltage), the internal resistance of the battery (determined by it's short circuit current potential) and the resistance of the circuit which is the load (ie camera, flash, motor etc). The battery and load resistances are always in series (resistances in series add ie create a higher resistance) so the maximum current that can be supplied is governed by Ohms law which is current (amperes) = voltage (volts) / resistance (ohms). Therefore the current can't be forced and usually in any device (excepting a very badly designed one) the current flow is less when used with rechargeable cells as the terminal voltage is lower. Generally (given the same sized cell) the internal resistance of a NiCd cell is lower than a NiMH which is lower than Alkaline which is lower than the old carbon cells, but the difference should only be noted under very large load current requirements (ie a low resistance load approaching what is effectively a short circuit). In short if any electronics engineer designs a circuit that factors the internal resistance of the battery into the design deserves to have a fried circuit on their hands, so it doesn't happen very often (and it would be very apparent in the field as not may users ever RTFM). There might be potential in a badly designed flash gun or motor drive for over-heating due to excessive current flow but it's not common. On the other hand there are now a range of devices on the market (mostly digital cameras) where they are designed specifically for use with NiMH or NiCd rechargable AA cell in which conventional AA Alkaline cells will fry the devices due to their comparatively high terminal voltages (hence they can cause excessive current flow). The battery rating in mAh is simply the absolute charge holding capacity of the battery like MB of hard disk, it has little to do with current flow in ordinary circumstances (ie AA use in photo equipment). It can be used to determine the potential life of the batteries charge for a given current drain, ie if you have a 1600mAh battery supplying a circuit which draws 100mA then the battery should theoretically last for 16hours before it is discharged. BTW the formula for power dissipated in a load is voltage (volts) x current (amperes) = power (watts) therefore power = voltage(squared) / resistance so a small change in terminal voltage has a large impact on power dissipated by the circuit. Sorry about the OT rant but there is no point discussing these sorts of things when there are fundamental misunderstandings of the laws. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: In Praise of E100VS
Did you push the film a stop during processing when rated at ISO 200? And as for the cross-processing, did you rate it @ 100, and are you scanning the negs or basing your likings on lab proofs? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
67: 45 vs 55
With the recent discussions on the 45mm, which everyone seems to appreciate, I wonder why the 55f/4 is the more expensive lens. I have the 55 and have always wanted the 45, or so I thought. Any easy explainations? I had the 55f/3.5 but wasn't thrilled with the results, except for the viewfinder brightness. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Saturation in ISO 400 C-41?
When I need a highly saturated, fine grain ISO 400 color negative film, I shoot Kodak Portra 400VC. Very good contrast and color when properly exposed. But good exposures are a must. It doesn't have the latitude of Kodak's (or Fuji's) consumer films. Paul Carlos Royo wrote: Joseph Tainter wrote: My question is: which gives the highest color saturation? Agfa Vista 400 and Superia Extra 400 look like possible candidates. Has anyone compared their color saturation? Are there other candidates I should consider? I don't shoot colour negative film very often, but my wife does. Once said this, in the process of getting used to the MZ-S, I have used several negative films, and I tried the Agfa Vista 400. It is saturated, but it is also the worst Agfa film I've ever tried, it is grainy, not sharp at all, and its lack of contrast sucks. I have also (and my wife has used it a lot in the last pair of years) used Superia, both in 100 and 400 ISO speeds. The 400 Superia is an excellent film, it yields very good colour, saturated but not unnatural, and the grain is not noticeable, even in the enlargments we've had done, although those are not big (18x24 cm., I think). It also scans very well. -- Carlos Royo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Zaragoza (Aragon) - Spain -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: A Really Neat Camera Strap
Good idea. I'm a strap user, but I sometimes like to remove them. As you note, this setup particularly suitable for an MX, which should sometimes travel in one's pocket. I'm going to make a pair of these for my MX. Thanks for the tip. Paul Shel Belinkoff wrote: I just had to share this with the list. If you've got a nice, older camera and hate to see the finish abraded by the strap or the strap attachments, this might be just the solution. I'm putting one together for my Leicas at it easily allows switching from a neck strap to a wrist strap, and it seems to work nicely on the MX as well. http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/cameras/non-abrassive.html -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: In Praise of E100VS
E100VS has become my color transparency film of choice for most subjects, although I'll use the E100S version for people photography. These films exhibit none of the too blue or blocking tendencies of the old Ektachromes. IMHO, the color seems more natural than Fuji stocks, and they scan better. Paul Brian Campbell (PM) wrote: On 19 Dec 2001, at 10:50, Joseph Tainter wrote: This past September in northern Europe was frustrating for photography. Clouds and rain had come early. To get some punch in my pictures I shot E100VS at ISO 200. I needed the higher speed for some low-light situations. I am very pleased with the results. Scanning at 2700 dpi and printing 8-1/2 x 11 inch enlargements on my Epson 870, the grain seems quite reasonable. I actually detect no grain in skies, just a little in some pink shades (Baroque building colors). Black turned very slightly gray, with a bit of grain - but not really noticeable at normal viewing distance. All-in-all, I think I've found the right film for overcast conditions. Actually it cross-processes pretty well too, I really liked the effect on a couple test rolls I got back recently. Cheers! Brian - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Rechargeable (2CR5) for PZ-1p
On 19 Dec 2001 at 20:38, Doug Franklin wrote: On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 12:10:00 -0500, Otis Wright, Jr. wrote: Any one know out there happen to have info on the relative short circuit characteristics of NiCd, NiMH, Alkaline, Lithium etc. cells? A six-cell pack of 1400, 1600, or 2000 mAh Sub-C NiCD (Sanyo or Panasonic) cells is reputed to deliver 100A or more of dead-short current for a _very_ short time. Within five to ten seconds, the cells overheat to the point they can give you a 2nd degree burn and they violently start venting gas (don't know what type of gas). [Sub-C cells are slightly smaller than a C size alkaline battery.] I've seen this happen several times in the 1:10 scale electric R/C cars. In a controlled test several years ago, an acquaintance measured a specific six-Sub-C 1600 mAh pack dead shorting a bit over 100A for less than five seconds. The current delivered dropped off to zero over the next thirty or so seconds as the internal structure self-destructed from the heat and and the chemical system was depleted by the venting. :-) Keen, I just checked the specs for the 1600mAh AA NiMH cells that I use in all my gear, the shirt circuit current is 7.75A for 2 seconds max, the cells internal resistance when fully charged is 25 mOhm. see: http://users.skynet.be/bs137713/DATASHEET/pdf/VH1600AA.PDF AFAIK NiMH cells have a higher energy density than NiCd cells but NiCd have a far higher short circuit current in most cases. I believe that some aircraft use NiCd batteries for starting? In school we used to use charged AA NiCd cells to heat up the pocket clips on old Parker ball point pens before sending across the room via air vbg Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT - Voigtlander Bessa R
A month or two ago, I recall some discussion here about whether Pentax should consider marketing an upgraded Spotmatic - a sort of limited edition high-quality metal-bodied all-mechanical. Love my Spotmatics though I do, I think I poo-pooed the idea as something that Pentax would never do, thinking that there would be no market for it, and it would be too expensive to be worth doing. I just noticed the Voigtlander Bessa R. A rangefinder with a metal body, all mechanical with led ttl metering, takes Leica (L mount) screwmount lenses (for goodness sake!). I think they're made in Japan by Cosina. I'm very interested! Anyone out there have any experience with them? Anyone know how much they cost? Thanks and regards, frank -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Mid 20th century look (was Re[2]: 50mm/f1.2
On 18 Dec 2001 at 8:19, Tom Rittenhouse wrote: There are a lot of factors that have changed since the fifties. Film and paper of course as you have mentioned. Optics, lenses are very much crisper now. Lighting, in the fifties it was mostly hot lights and flash bulbs though a few were using big strobes which even so give a far different look to a shot than the small auto-strobes we use today... What about the effect of the anti-halation layer? When was it made commonplace? I know that Kodak HIE (high speed IR) film has no AH layer, that is why the contrasty edges have a real sort of glow. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
