Re: PZ-1p review
On Sat, 22 Dec 2001 21:09:35 -0600, you wrote: Just ran across this http://www.photographic.com/showarchives.cgi?93:3 and found it very interesting. It reviews the PZ-1p, a camera I've heard much about on the list, but never seen. Makes me a little envious, actually. g I think the PZ1p's downfall is simple. It is not a photogenic camera. In actual use, it is beautiful, but catalog-size photos of it are quite ugly. Who the heck would give a second look at an ugly camera? -- John Mustarde www.photolin.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
6x7 on ebay
Here's a 6x7 with a $325 buy it now. No finder, but still a decent price. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1313586671 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S Data imprinting
On 22 Dec 2001 at 22:42, Pål Jensen wrote: Sorry, but this has been tested by others proving that when the film is NOT rewounded theres no data printed. In addition, other test also prove that the film is printed on rewind. Pentax litterature says where the emitter is and it is positioned in a way that it could only imprint on rewind. It is located beside the lower, right corner of the pressure plate. I don't know what happened oin your case but can you please try to explain how your MZ-S actually do the imprinting? Second time lucky? The gold pins are the electronic contacts between the data back and the body. The imprinting device for placing date information on the film is located behind the pressure plate and inside the exposed film area. The IR sprocket hole sensor assembly is located at the top right (when looking at the body from the rear, prism pointing up) at the elevation of the sprocket holes. The imprinting device for film exposure data is located at the bottom right (when looking at the open rear door from the rear of the camera, prism pointing up) of the pressure plate on the rear door. This places it adjacent to the film supply spool when the back is closed. Therefore the data must be printed on rewind otherwise the camera would need to back up the film then advance to write the data. Unless of course the camera pre-advanced the film and the exposure sequence was in effect reversed. So Pål's explanation seems to correlate with the physical lay-out of the camera and Bill's results are a total mystery? Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PZ-1p review
In a message dated 12/23/2001 7:51:07 AM US Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think the PZ1p's downfall is simple. It is not a photogenic camera. In actual use, it is beautiful, but catalog-size photos of it are quite ugly. Who the heck would give a second look at an ugly camera? -- John Mustarde www.photolin.com ...the eye of the beholder... I thought the Nikon F's were ugly. Regards, Ed M. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What cameras OTHER than the LX rate at least a half wink?
So I'm wondering, all you LX smirkers out there, if you had to replace your LX with ONE, ONLY ONE, other Pentax that existed prior, to, say, 1990, what would it be? An MX, undoubtedly! Wendy. --- Wendy Beard Ottawa, Canada mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Odp: PZ-1p review
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PZ-1p review I thought the Nikon F's were ugly. They are, indeed:)) Especially F5, F4 and F3:)) Greetz Artur - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Bought an S800, Printing tips and PS question?
On Friday, December 21, 2001, at 06:08 PM, Cotty wrote: (Some argue 360 ppi on Epsons but I've compared 2 prints side by side, one at 300 and one at 360 and saw no difference...) Cotty, it's not a difference in sharpness or apparent resolution. 300 dpi, depending on the original image, can introduce moire patterning into the print in complex, fine patterns. Both times I've seen the effect have been with plaid shirts in group shots. Upsampling the image from 300 ppi to 360 ppi eliminated the problem, both on our old Epson Photo 1200 and our new Epson Pro 7500. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 6x7 LENSES
On Friday, December 21, 2001, at 06:15 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote: Just bought my first 6X7 body. Now onto the lenses. Anybody know of a website that reviews the various lenses? I'm probably going to buy 3 lenses to start with. I'm thinking a 55mm , a 105mm, and a 200mm. You bastard, I still only have this one 105mm f2.4. ;) Dunno any review sites that offer as much info as this here PDML. I heartily recommend the 105, particularly if you like to shoot wide open or mostly wide open. Also, if you shoot macro at all, the helicoid extension tube is one hell of an accessory for not a lot of money (I bought the 105 and the helicoid for the cost of just a 90mm). I'm still holding out for that 75mm f2.8. DO YOU HEAR ME, PENTAX CANADA? PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE IMPORT A 75MM F2.8 FOR 67! -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Cover Shot
You're right! Tom C. They also may think that because I've never presented myself as anything but a photographer. I've simply said I'm a photographer, and that's that. - Original Message - From: Tom Rittenhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax Discussion Malling List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 4:39 AM Subject: Re: Cover Shot Yes they do, and the fact Tom's shots had that apparent consideration in their composition is probably why they thought Tom was a pro. May have been serendipity this time, but I bet it won't be next time, heh, Tom? And, these kinds of credits tend to open doors for other photo assignments. Remember to get them to give you several copies for tear sheets, even if you have to pay for them, Tom. Ciao, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dave Weiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 3:52 PM Subject: Re: Cover Shot Tom, What I noticed is that it looks like it was set-up for a cover shot. That is, I can easily visualize where they would put in the magazine title, story names, etc, (all that lettering) as the left hand side of the picture and upper part lack some detail. I might be mistaken, but I think these type of spacing issues are relatively important. On my monitor, the pink nicely compliments the blue in a pastelish sort of way. Nice picture in any event. Looking at it evokes thoughts of yesteryear. dave __ Send a friend your Buddy Card and stay in contact always with Excite Messenger http://messenger.excite.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S Data imprinting
So Pål's explanation seems to correlate with the physical lay-out of the camera and Bill's results are a total mystery? Cheers, Rob Studdert Could some of you rewinders please explain how film that has been removed from the camera and processed without being rewound can still show the exposure data imprint please explain it to me. I have done this and seen the results. Bill, KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S Data imprinting
Bill wrote: Could some of you rewinders please explain how film that has been removed from the camera and processed without being rewound can still show the exposure data imprint please explain it to me. I have done this and seen the results. I honestly don't know Bill but some have done similar experiment as you and gotten a different result. I can't explain it. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What cameras OTHER than the LX rate at least a half wink?
This one is easy: Black K2. It's got almost all the same features of the LX, and the same great feel. Bill Lon Williamson wrote: Cotty, I love ya like a hen loves her chicks, but some of us are, as we say on this side of the pond, poor as Afgan rats after the hay rack got bombed. So I'm wondering, all you LX smirkers out there, if you had to replace your LX with ONE, ONLY ONE, other Pentax that existed prior, to, say, 1990, what would it be? -Lon, who, every time he THINKS he is enabled, finds that he is not. lol. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: Re: PZ-1p review
- Original Message - From: Artur Ledóchowski Subject: Odp: PZ-1p review I thought the Nikon F's were ugly. They are, indeed:)) Especially F5, F4 and F3:)) Surely not the F3, with it's stylish red pinstriping!!! L8R Bill - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: MZ-S Data imprinting
Ok, let it go untill tomorrow, when I will do the test. I´m gonna place the camera in the dark box, cut the film, and put it on the processor, I think this is the way for doing the test. -Mensaje original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] En nombre de Pål Jensen Enviado el: domingo, 23 de diciembre de 2001 16:30 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Asunto: Re: MZ-S Data imprinting Bill wrote: Could some of you rewinders please explain how film that has been removed from the camera and processed without being rewound can still show the exposure data imprint please explain it to me. I have done this and seen the results. I honestly don't know Bill but some have done similar experiment as you and gotten a different result. I can't explain it. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: An Xmas discussion about hobbies and putting them in perspective.
This is an off topic post so feel free to delete now. I am fortunate that I have known/know some real characters in life, one of which I met today whilst doing the Christmas shopping. I hadn't seen him for a while, and chat made its way around to what was acquired for Xmas, and I mentioned my new LX. Well, he got on his soapbox (in a most amusing manner) ridiculing my need for another camera, stating that perhaps I was taking photography to extremes. I shook his hand, wished his family a happy Christmas, winked at his wife (NO, not an LX or MX wink) and shook my head at her. My friend collects vintage commercial vehicles!! No more off topic posts for a while, but I hope you enjoyed the double standards of the above. Plus remember, you may have your other half not keen on photography, but at least you can say it could be way. worse. Malcolm - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: test
William Robb wrote: HAR!! Its not a test at all. It is a wish for all to have a most festive and joyous Christmas season, in whatever manner you choose to celebrate, or ignore it. As my four year old cousin would shout, HA! I trick you! and then cackle gleefully. Happy snow-days, bud. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: I have gained respect for the pros
On Saturday, December 22, 2001, at 01:14 AM, Doug Brewer wrote: Three weekends?!? wimp. I did Santa photos for six years running at the most brutal mall in Mississauga. Apparently this is why I simply do not hear crying children. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax 67 Questions
On Sunday, December 23, 2001, at 03:14 AM, J. C. O'Connell wrote: 1. What battery(s) does it take and how long do they last ( without using metered prism )? I use my 67 heavily and have change my batteries twice since spring 1998 (when I bought the camera). The first time was within the first month of ownership, when I accidentally locked up the mirror and didn't notice. The second time was a couple of months ago when I did the same thing. Always be careful when putting your 67 into a bag. I don't have the metering prism, BTW. 3. Are the screens user changable? I might buy a beatie for it. Pentax Canada will change your screen for you if you're buying one from them. It is apparently a quick and painless operation that doesn't take too long. Personally, I'm quite fond of the screen in my 67 (the standard Pentax one).\ 5. Is the wooden grip a must have item for handholding? I don't think so. I don't have one. I've held a 67 with the wooden grip and found it awkward. 6. How can I stop from spending 1000's on lenses? ( just kidding ) Become very very poor. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PhotoShop, Wellington, Costa Rica
On Saturday, December 22, 2001, at 02:15 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: Re: the cursor disappearing, a pain isn't it, you can change the shape but it always disappears when over an area of about RGB 118,118,188, it would be an easy fix in the code I guess, but hasn't happened yet :-( Is this in Photoshop LE? In full Photoshop 4, 5 and 5.5 on the Mac I've never experienced this -- the cursor inverts its colour when dragged over a dark area. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax ME + M50/1.4
On Saturday, December 22, 2001, at 08:11 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good price, and I still have a liking for the old ME. Yeah, I'm jealous. A 76, S 76, LR 44 and SR 44 batteries will all fit in the ME Super. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What cameras OTHER than the LX rate at least a half wink?
On Sunday, December 23, 2001, at 12:16 AM, William Robb wrote: Hey, format wasn't specified.. I am pretty fond of the ME Super too. I swear, Bill, we have the same cameras. I'd put my votes in for the 67 and the ME Super. I love the size, weight and layout of the ME Super. It's quiet, too. I'd say that the 67 merits at least three winks. Especially at the prices we've seen on eBay in recent days. Why haven't the rest of you bought 67s yet? -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: An Xmas discussion about hobbies and putting them in perspective.
Hi, Malcolm, You call that an OT post? Geez, you mentioned (not one, but) two Pentax models, and your post was at least peripherally about photography! No mention of guns, gun control, SUV's, Australia, Fosters beer, etc, etc. ;-) But yeah, I get that too: why do you need another camera? I patiently explain to whomever that the most I've paid for any of the current cameras I now have (all are used) is a bit less than $100 Canadian for my Yashica Mat. For most, I paid far less - like under $30. But even if I did have a brand new LX, 6x7, or whatever, what of it? It quite pales in comparison to, for instance, your example of vintage cars, boats, cottages or houses that one actually owns (as opposed to the little apartment that I rent). Actually, I try patiently explaining to these silly people, I don't NEED another camera/lens/whatever, I choose to spend a very small portion of my discretionary income on them. I also become frustrated trying to point out that, no, I'm not a collector, because firstly, all of my cameras are users, and do in fact get used with some regularity, and secondly, none of these cameras is in anyway rare, expensive or collectible. Ah, well, no use trying to explain anything to these people, though. I prefer to simply enjoy my hobby, and take enough piccies that eventually, one turns out half-decent! regards, frank Malcolm Smith wrote: This is an off topic post so feel free to delete now. I am fortunate that I have known/know some real characters in life, one of which I met today whilst doing the Christmas shopping. I hadn't seen him for a while, and chat made its way around to what was acquired for Xmas, and I mentioned my new LX. Well, he got on his soapbox (in a most amusing manner) ridiculing my need for another camera, stating that perhaps I was taking photography to extremes. I shook his hand, wished his family a happy Christmas, winked at his wife (NO, not an LX or MX wink) and shook my head at her. My friend collects vintage commercial vehicles!! No more off topic posts for a while, but I hope you enjoyed the double standards of the above. Plus remember, you may have your other half not keen on photography, but at least you can say it could be way. worse. Malcolm - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: Out with a TLR
Hi, all, Answering Malcolm's so-called OT thread a few moments ago reminded me about a recent occurance. I recall that (I think it was) two or three months ago, someone mentioned that walking around with a honkin' big brick of a TLR around your neck is bound to get you noticed, and that some will invariably think you a pro, since not many tlr's are seen in public these days (if they ever were). Well, now that I've had a chance to walk around with my Yashica Mat for a weekend (last weekend actually - my first roll of prints will be ready tomorrow - yippee!), all I can say is, Wow, do you ever get noticed! I had so many strangers ask me about/comment on the camera! And some of them were cute young ladies too! (not that I got any phone numbers, but at my age, just gettin' them to talk to ya is an accomplishment) I was quite surprised by all the attention! I heartily recommend it (I bet that 645's or 6x7's work just as well or better) for anyone who's social life is lagging a bit. regards, frank -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: I have gained respect for the pros
Hi, Aaron, Brutal Mall is reduntant! I'm guessing Square One? Is their Santa at least one of the ones with the real beards, like the ones at the Bay and the Eaton Centre downtown? ;-) regards, frank Aaron Reynolds wrote: I did Santa photos for six years running at the most brutal mall in Mississauga. Apparently this is why I simply do not hear crying children. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
A Holiday laugh for You
Stupid Volkswagen Tricks! http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/humor/jetta-plywood.html -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What cameras OTHER than the LX rate at least a half wink?
Interestingly enough, while 67 prices have been quite reasonable of late, some other cameras have been bringing good dollar. To finance some 6x7 purchases, I sold my Mamiya TLR equipment. (I've had some of it for 25 years, and it broke my heart to sell it. But I can't afford to keep everything.) I got $265 for a C220 body and old style 80mm lens and $295 for a late model 250/6.3. I bought the 250 at BH three or four years ago for $300. (It really hurt to sell that lens. It's a very good piece of glass with a leaf shutter. But I can't afford to keep everything.) With the money I received for the TLR equipment, I was able to buy an MLU 6x7 that I would describe as a nice user, a KEH excellent 150/2.8, a wood grip, and a body cap. Not a bad trade. Paul Aaron Reynolds wrote: On Sunday, December 23, 2001, at 12:16 AM, William Robb wrote: Hey, format wasn't specified.. I am pretty fond of the ME Super too. I swear, Bill, we have the same cameras. I'd put my votes in for the 67 and the ME Super. I love the size, weight and layout of the ME Super. It's quiet, too. I'd say that the 67 merits at least three winks. Especially at the prices we've seen on eBay in recent days. Why haven't the rest of you bought 67s yet? -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: An Xmas discussion about hobbies and putting them in perspective.
Malcolm Smith wrote: I shook his hand, wished his family a happy Christmas, winked at his wife... HAR! That'll teach him. I hope she winked back :-) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What cameras OTHER than the LX rate at least a half wink?
On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 11:09:05 -0500, Aaron Reynolds wrote: Why haven't the rest of you bought 67s yet? As soon as you mail me a check, I'll do it :-) Later, Gary - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: OT: An Xmas discussion about hobbies and putting them in perspective.
But yeah, I get that too: why do you need another camera? I patiently explain to whomever that the most I've paid for any of the current cameras I now have (all are used) is a bit less than $100 Canadian for my Yashica Mat. For most, I paid far less - like under $30. Thanks Frank, As you know I enjoy using older cameras and I have a budget to keep too. But even if I had pots of cash and Leica M6s etc. it wouldn't make me a better photographer, just someone taking the same pictures on more expensive equipment. No more, no less. Malcolm - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Out with a TLR
Frank... You betcha...I really get a lot of attention when I go out roaming with my Yashica Mat 124G. What a great camera. I had mine hotrodded with a new spit-image screen. I love that camera. It forces you to take time with your shots and I appreciate that (honestly, I never gotten used to the image being flipped in the viewfinder). Because of this, I notice a lot of folks wanting to come up and talk about it. They don't even notice my LX... ;-) Brnedan - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: A Holiday laugh for You
Excuse spelling, but wasn't that taken in Annapolis, Maryland? Malcolm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: 23 December 2001 17:38 To: Pentax List Subject: A Holiday laugh for You Stupid Volkswagen Tricks! http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/humor/jetta-plywood.html -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What cameras OTHER than the LX rate at least a half wink?
In a message dated 12/23/2001 9:55:25 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 11:09:05 -0500, Aaron Reynolds wrote: Why haven't the rest of you bought 67s yet? Give it time, man, give it time... I have my eye on the 67II...(drool...) Brendan - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Vs: Pentax ME + M50/1.4
Yep - my 23 years old ME+winder ME II+3.5/35-105 SMC-A makes a good combination. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 23. joulukuuta 2001 18:04 Aihe: Re: Pentax ME + M50/1.4 On Saturday, December 22, 2001, at 08:11 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good price, and I still have a liking for the old ME. Yeah, I'm jealous. A 76, S 76, LR 44 and SR 44 batteries will all fit in the ME Super. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Vs: OT: An Xmas discussion about hobbies and putting them in perspective.
Perspective is OK - on Friday I saw a Yashica A on shop window - priced at the equivalent of 150 USD - crazy. My first camera was a Yashica A and it did cost about 15 USD then - and this is it´s current value, too IMHO. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 23. joulukuuta 2001 18:24 Aihe: Re: OT: An Xmas discussion about hobbies and putting them in perspective. Hi, Malcolm, You call that an OT post? Geez, you mentioned (not one, but) two Pentax models, and your post was at least peripherally about photography! No mention of guns, gun control, SUV's, Australia, Fosters beer, etc, etc. ;-) But yeah, I get that too: why do you need another camera? I patiently explain to whomever that the most I've paid for any of the current cameras I now have (all are used) is a bit less than $100 Canadian for my Yashica Mat. For most, I paid far less - like under $30. But even if I did have a brand new LX, 6x7, or whatever, what of it? It quite pales in comparison to, for instance, your example of vintage cars, boats, cottages or houses that one actually owns (as opposed to the little apartment that I rent). Actually, I try patiently explaining to these silly people, I don't NEED another camera/lens/whatever, I choose to spend a very small portion of my discretionary income on them. I also become frustrated trying to point out that, no, I'm not a collector, because firstly, all of my cameras are users, and do in fact get used with some regularity, and secondly, none of these cameras is in anyway rare, expensive or collectible. Ah, well, no use trying to explain anything to these people, though. I prefer to simply enjoy my hobby, and take enough piccies that eventually, one turns out half-decent! regards, frank Malcolm Smith wrote: This is an off topic post so feel free to delete now. I am fortunate that I have known/know some real characters in life, one of which I met today whilst doing the Christmas shopping. I hadn't seen him for a while, and chat made its way around to what was acquired for Xmas, and I mentioned my new LX. Well, he got on his soapbox (in a most amusing manner) ridiculing my need for another camera, stating that perhaps I was taking photography to extremes. I shook his hand, wished his family a happy Christmas, winked at his wife (NO, not an LX or MX wink) and shook my head at her. My friend collects vintage commercial vehicles!! No more off topic posts for a while, but I hope you enjoyed the double standards of the above. Plus remember, you may have your other half not keen on photography, but at least you can say it could be way. worse. Malcolm - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 6x7 on ebay
looks like someone took your advice and grabbed it! Nice camera. It was a good thing that it was an MLU body as Pentax no longer services the Non-MLU bodies... Brendan - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: I have gained respect for the pros
On Sunday, December 23, 2001, at 12:21 PM, frank theriault wrote: Hi, Aaron, Brutal Mall is reduntant! I'm guessing Square One? Is their Santa at least one of the ones with the real beards, like the ones at the Bay and the Eaton Centre downtown? Nowhere near that upscale. I was workin' in South Common Mall. Ow. Oh, and two of the years I replaced the camera the folks paying me supplied with my ME Super. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: An Xmas discussion about hobbies and putting them in perspective.
Ah, but, you see. He thinks you take pictures. Tell him you collect cameras. He will understand. Mind you he will still think you are dippy (who the hell wants to collect cameras, or Barbie dolls, for that matter), but he will understand. He's a collector himself. Ciao, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Malcolm Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 11:26 AM Subject: OT: An Xmas discussion about hobbies and putting them in perspective. This is an off topic post so feel free to delete now. I am fortunate that I have known/know some real characters in life, one of which I met today whilst doing the Christmas shopping. I hadn't seen him for a while, and chat made its way around to what was acquired for Xmas, and I mentioned my new LX. Well, he got on his soapbox (in a most amusing manner) ridiculing my need for another camera, stating that perhaps I was taking photography to extremes. I shook his hand, wished his family a happy Christmas, winked at his wife (NO, not an LX or MX wink) and shook my head at her. My friend collects vintage commercial vehicles!! No more off topic posts for a while, but I hope you enjoyed the double standards of the above. Plus remember, you may have your other half not keen on photography, but at least you can say it could be way. worse. Malcolm - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Photoshop LE disappearing cursor and other limitations
folks, Yes, I was having the problem with Photoshop LE. So now it seems that LE doesn't have the full Photoshop version's inverting cursor, nor from my experimentation and what others have told me does it have a tool to enable you to correct perspective distortion in buildings photographed with a wide angle lens. People who are considering buying photo manipulation software might want to take these things into consideration, because I believe it makes Photoshop LE much less desirable. Sounds to me like a serious marketing mistake on Adobe's part - they should have left out esoteric tools, not basic requirements. Richard. home page: www.richard-seaman.com --- original message --- From: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PhotoShop, Wellington, Costa Rica On Saturday, December 22, 2001, at 02:15 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: Re: the cursor disappearing, a pain isn't it, you can change the shape but it always disappears when over an area of about RGB 118,118,188, it would be an easy fix in the code I guess, but hasn't happened yet :-( Is this in Photoshop LE? In full Photoshop 4, 5 and 5.5 on the Mac I've never experienced this -- the cursor inverts its colour when dragged over a dark area. - -Aaron _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Out with a TLR
Try a Speed Graphic (for an attention getter, they are too big to ware around your neck). Ciao, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 12:13 PM Subject: OT: Out with a TLR Hi, all, Answering Malcolm's so-called OT thread a few moments ago reminded me about a recent occurance. I recall that (I think it was) two or three months ago, someone mentioned that walking around with a honkin' big brick of a TLR around your neck is bound to get you noticed, and that some will invariably think you a pro, since not many tlr's are seen in public these days (if they ever were). Well, now that I've had a chance to walk around with my Yashica Mat for a weekend (last weekend actually - my first roll of prints will be ready tomorrow - yippee!), all I can say is, Wow, do you ever get noticed! I had so many strangers ask me about/comment on the camera! And some of them were cute young ladies too! (not that I got any phone numbers, but at my age, just gettin' them to talk to ya is an accomplishment) I was quite surprised by all the attention! I heartily recommend it (I bet that 645's or 6x7's work just as well or better) for anyone who's social life is lagging a bit. regards, frank -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: A Holiday laugh for You
RerunBut a great laugh nonetheless. Otis Shel Belinkoff wrote: Stupid Volkswagen Tricks! http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/humor/jetta-plywood.html -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Photoshop LE disappearing cursor and other limitations
People who are considering buying photo manipulation software might want to take these things into consideration, because I believe it makes Photoshop LE much less desirable. Sounds to me like a serious marketing mistake on Adobe's part - they should have left out esoteric tools, not basic requirements. The thing I miss the most is the perspective correction. But perfect marketing from Adobe's POV. This is usually bundled with a scanner, etc and the idea is to get you to upgrade. JeffW. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: An Xmas discussion about hobbies and putting them in perspective.
on 12/23/01 12:25 PM, Tom Rittenhouse at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But you are a collector. To take photos you only need one camera. The fact you have several proves you are a collector. Malcom's friend probably drives those trucks too, now and then. Frankly, I don't know why so many photographers refuse to accept they are collectors, maybe not serious ones, or they would have a collection that had a theme (all the screw mount Pentax bodies, for instance), the we are collectors. My camera collection has pretty much been serial, a few at a time, over the years, but still I am a camera collector. Some times I am a photographer too. :-) Maybe yes, maybe no. I have 5 35mm SLRs, 2 35mm RFs, 2 TLRs, 2 6x6 and and old Mini Speed Graphic. Sounds like a collector except for the fact that NONE of the cameras have the exact same feature set and film format. Except the 2 6x6 which are a Salyut-S and a backup Keiv88. I also have a number of non-working cameras saved for parts for the future. A non-collector. JeffW. P.S. Camera list Pentax ZX-5n Ricoh XR-1 Chinon CP-6 Mamiya DTL1000 Pentax SV (on the way) Yashica EM Yashica 24 Kiev 88 Salyut-S Mini Speed Graphic with 6x7 roll film back and sheet film backs - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Out with a TLR
on 12/23/01 12:27 PM, Tom Rittenhouse at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try a Speed Graphic (for an attention getter, they are too big to ware around your neck). Ciao, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or a tripod mounted Kiev. Even more so when they disacover it isn't a Hassy. JeffW. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: An Xmas discussion about hobbies and putting them in perspective.
Hi, Tom, You are, of course, correct. If I have more than one camera, then I guess I'm a collector. That is an entirely valid use of the term. When I think or say collector, I think of that type of person who purchases something for a purpose which (at least partially) is other than that for which the device is designed for. Something intended to be put in a closet or garage, usually so it can appreciate in value - or at least not depreciate through ordinary usage. Of course, the extreme is someone who buys, let's say, a collector's edition Leica (or whatever - I just mention Leica because they make so damned many collector's editions), never takes it out of the box, lest it's value be compromised by allowing it to see air or sunlight! This, imho, is an abomination, and he will never get into Photography Heaven that way. So yeah, I guess that I collect 50's to 70's usable Japanese cameras that were made in the millions, and are still available very inexpensively. I also try for cameras that will take a pretty good photo (given an opportunity by a good photographer). Of course, I just got a Voigtlander Vito for $2 the other day on eBay (no, I didn't forget any zeros - $2), so now I think I'll have to drop the Japanese from my collection description. I guess there are collectors, and there are COLLECTORS. :-) regards, frank Tom Rittenhouse wrote: But you are a collector. To take photos you only need one camera. The fact you have several proves you are a collector. Malcom's friend probably drives those trucks too, now and then. Frankly, I don't know why so many photographers refuse to accept they are collectors, maybe not serious ones, or they would have a collection that had a theme (all the screw mount Pentax bodies, for instance), the we are collectors. My camera collection has pretty much been serial, a few at a time, over the years, but still I am a camera collector. Some times I am a photographer too. :-) -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Am I a Collector (was OT discussion....)
But you are a collector. To take photos you only need one camera. The fact you have several proves you are a collector. Malcom's friend probably drives those trucks too, now and then. Frankly, I don't know why so many photographers refuse to accept they are collectors, maybe not serious ones, or they would have a collection that had a theme (all the screw mount Pentax bodies, for instance), the we are collectors. My camera collection has pretty much been serial, a few at a time, over the years, but still I am a camera collector. Some times I am a photographer too. :-) Ciao, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Am I a collector of cameras? Well I have 2 MXs, but one is now Felicity's and I like a camera with slide film and one with print film in it (either bw or colour) at all times. I have a Kodak Instamatic 25 which was my first camera in 1968, and hasn't been used since 1974 and my father's Kershaw Eight - 20 Penguin which I have never used (or even looked at until recently as he died not that long ago). Does this make me a collector? I think not, but its tempting to become one, cash allowing! I doubt if my wife would allow bits of old vehicle in every room in the house, and if I used the dishwasher to clean non-kitchen items, well. Malcolm - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: OT: An Xmas discussion about hobbies and putting them in perspective.
Frank, Excuse the one liner reply, but that's an very good point of view. Malcolm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of frank theriault Sent: 23 December 2001 18:58 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: An Xmas discussion about hobbies and putting them in perspective. Hi, Tom, You are, of course, correct. If I have more than one camera, then I guess I'm a collector. That is an entirely valid use of the term. When I think or say collector, I think of that type of person who purchases something for a purpose which (at least partially) is other than that for which the device is designed for. Something intended to be put in a closet or garage, usually so it can appreciate in value - or at least not depreciate through ordinary usage. Of course, the extreme is someone who buys, let's say, a collector's edition Leica (or whatever - I just mention Leica because they make so damned many collector's editions), never takes it out of the box, lest it's value be compromised by allowing it to see air or sunlight! This, imho, is an abomination, and he will never get into Photography Heaven that way. So yeah, I guess that I collect 50's to 70's usable Japanese cameras that were made in the millions, and are still available very inexpensively. I also try for cameras that will take a pretty good photo (given an opportunity by a good photographer). Of course, I just got a Voigtlander Vito for $2 the other day on eBay (no, I didn't forget any zeros - $2), so now I think I'll have to drop the Japanese from my collection description. I guess there are collectors, and there are COLLECTORS. :-) regards, frank Tom Rittenhouse wrote: But you are a collector. To take photos you only need one camera. The fact you have several proves you are a collector. Malcom's friend probably drives those trucks too, now and then. Frankly, I don't know why so many photographers refuse to accept they are collectors, maybe not serious ones, or they would have a collection that had a theme (all the screw mount Pentax bodies, for instance), the we are collectors. My camera collection has pretty much been serial, a few at a time, over the years, but still I am a camera collector. Some times I am a photographer too. :-) -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: I have gained respect for the pros
- Original Message - From: Aaron Reynolds Subject: Re: I have gained respect for the pros I did Santa photos for six years running at the most brutal mall in Mississauga. Is that the Square1? William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
MZ-S AF sensitivity to HV?
A while back, someone had written how the MZ-S AF sensors were each sensitive to both horizontal and vertical lines, because of (I think) some software design. Can someone point me to where that information is explained? And why doesn't Pentax market it? Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
6X7 on eBay - BIN of $425
Saw this while up far too late.. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1313783517 Is that cheap or is that so-so? Cheers, Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Bought an S800, Printing tips and PS question?
Cotty, it's not a difference in sharpness or apparent resolution. 300 dpi, depending on the original image, can introduce moire patterning into the print in complex, fine patterns. Both times I've seen the effect have been with plaid shirts in group shots. Upsampling the image from 300 ppi to 360 ppi eliminated the problem, both on our old Epson Photo 1200 and our new Epson Pro 7500. Aaron, My sincere apologies! I misunderstood. Yes, I have seen this on a print from an Epson 5000 proofer, oddly enough. I have yet to come across it off my printer. Maybe something to do with the clothes of my sitters? ;-) Have a good Christmas etc. Cheers, Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Scanner Cleanliness
Tom, Sorry if I'm too anecdotal. vibration: When I first bought the scanner I had the same frustrations as you. Ie, the images didn't seem as sharp as expected. Mine too was resting on a sturdy table. Weighing it down with some heavy volumes improved sharpness in my scans. Don't have any great explanation why I thought of it. Just wanted to rule that factor out, and then suddenly it seemed to be significant. Gas: I too have noticed some split-second spitting from the mouthpiece of compressed-gas devices, but I've never seen that film you are talking about. Maybe it would help if you pointed it away from sensitive surfaces just when starting the blow? Best, Jostein - Original Message - From: aimcompute [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 7:31 PM Subject: Re: Scanner Cleanliness Hi Jostein, Question. What exactly were you experiencing that made you think vibration could be a factor? I have mine setting on a sturdy table. What did you notice different after you dampened vibrations? I know the answers to these questions must be obvious, but I'm interested in your anecdotal observations. I spray mine out regularly with compressed air, but that worries me a little as well. For one, even with the plastic straw in the can, I'm really not sure whether I'm blowing dust off or just creating a little cloud inside to settle back down. Also, I haven't found any compressed air (in cans) that doesn't have some kind of warning about using it on mirrors (even though it LARGELY says for photographic uses). It seems that when I spray it, for the first split second a spray of something visible (chemical or moisture) comes out. It also seems dependent somewhat on whether the can is held completely upright or not. When I see the visible component and have test sprayed on something, I can see the film it leaves behind. Thank you very much. Tom C. - Original Message - From: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 1:51 AM Subject: Re: Scanner Cleanliness Tom, Rob, I'm 99% sure that the Minolta Dimâge Dual have no focussing lens inside. Here's two things I have done to improve sharpness in mine: Placed it on an old mouse mat to dampen vibreation, and then weighed it down with a few encyclopedia volumes. A couple of times a year, I use a compressed-gas duster with a long mouthpiece to blow off dust inside. With the APS-door open. -Don't really know what surfaces that gets dusted, but it seems to help. So far I have been happy with the Minolta... -but maybe it's just because I don't know better... Jostein - Original Message - From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 8:15 AM Subject: Re: Scanner Cleanliness On 21 Dec 2001 at 20:03, aimcompute wrote: I'm wondering if there's a possibility that there is dust, dirt, film, etc. on the lens in the scanner (assuming one exists). The unit is about 3 years old. Any thoughts on whether I should take the cover off and have a look? Hi Tom, If you are handy that way and if the gear is well out of warranty I would take a look inside. I haven't looked inside a Minolta Dimage Scan Dual however I have had experience wit a few other scanners. It should certainly have a lens and it might be suffering from the effect of a deposited film (often emitted from the flame retardant and other additives in the plastics that make up the unit) on the lens and/or mirror surfaces. This problem can be seen on many flat bed scanners, even an Agfa Duoscan that I had needed to be cleaned straight out of the box. The lens might be quite hard to reach unfortunately but in any case if you can actually reach it without causing too much grief then clean it as you would any other lens. Just remember that the electronic components can be static discharge sensitive, particularly so unplugged modules. Or is this an optical illusion? Just thinking... I find when I scan a neg and compare it to the print, it doesn't look bad. But when I scan a slide and see it large, it doesn't look as good. Is it possible that with negs I'm comparing basically 1-to-1's whereas with slides I'm comparing a small image with an enlarged one, and noticing a difference? I don't know if this relates to the sharpness scanner performance issue that you mentioned or if it is a just a general feeling that you have but generally you must consider the following: Prints are obviously a reflective media therefore the best white and black in the print is relative to the quality of the paper, the exposure and the light under which it is viewed (considering a perfect source neg). The contrast of most monitors and absolute white light level emitted
Re: OT: An Xmas discussion about hobbies and putting them in perspective.
No, I think not. There collectors and there are investors. The investor don't give a diddlely about what they invest in all they are interested in is making money. A collector loves what he acquires, he fondles it, shows it to anyone who will look, and unless it is so valuable it would be stupid, sometimes even then, he uses it. A strange thing about investors in collectibles is that they never seem to realize they are buying retail and selling wholesale. Go figure Ciao, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 1:58 PM Subject: Re: OT: An Xmas discussion about hobbies and putting them in perspective. Hi, Tom, You are, of course, correct. If I have more than one camera, then I guess I'm a collector. That is an entirely valid use of the term. When I think or say collector, I think of that type of person who purchases something for a purpose which (at least partially) is other than that for which the device is designed for. Something intended to be put in a closet or garage, usually so it can appreciate in value - or at least not depreciate through ordinary usage. Of course, the extreme is someone who buys, let's say, a collector's edition Leica (or whatever - I just mention Leica because they make so damned many collector's editions), never takes it out of the box, lest it's value be compromised by allowing it to see air or sunlight! This, imho, is an abomination, and he will never get into Photography Heaven that way. So yeah, I guess that I collect 50's to 70's usable Japanese cameras that were made in the millions, and are still available very inexpensively. I also try for cameras that will take a pretty good photo (given an opportunity by a good photographer). Of course, I just got a Voigtlander Vito for $2 the other day on eBay (no, I didn't forget any zeros - $2), so now I think I'll have to drop the Japanese from my collection description. I guess there are collectors, and there are COLLECTORS. :-) regards, frank Tom Rittenhouse wrote: But you are a collector. To take photos you only need one camera. The fact you have several proves you are a collector. Malcom's friend probably drives those trucks too, now and then. Frankly, I don't know why so many photographers refuse to accept they are collectors, maybe not serious ones, or they would have a collection that had a theme (all the screw mount Pentax bodies, for instance), the we are collectors. My camera collection has pretty much been serial, a few at a time, over the years, but still I am a camera collector. Some times I am a photographer too. :-) -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Out with a TLR
I heartily recommend it (I bet that 645's or 6x7's work just as well or better) for anyone who's social life is lagging a bit. So, Frank - lemme get this right - if I'm a sad old pudding with about as much chance of scoring with a pouting young lady as Bin Laden has in getting a mortgage on a nice little hideaway up in the mountains somewhere (which I am), then the answer to all my prayers is to wander around with a paperweight, er, Yashicamat TLR around my neck and have them trotting after me like the Pied Piper That's gotta be a great cartoon - I'll run one up over the holidays. Cheers! Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Out with a TLR
But not a Mamiya Universal, they tiptoe around you craning their necks to look, but are very careful not to disturb your obviously important work. It always bemused me. It seems like to the public that thing is the epitome of the big black professional camera. Ciao, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: JeffW. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 1:55 PM Subject: Re: Out with a TLR on 12/23/01 12:27 PM, Tom Rittenhouse at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try a Speed Graphic (for an attention getter, they are too big to ware around your neck). Ciao, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or a tripod mounted Kiev. Even more so when they disacover it isn't a Hassy. JeffW. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: An Xmas discussion about hobbies and putting them in perspective.
Hi, Tom, You're right (again). I confused collectors with investors. I feel great shame. The true collector (which I'm sure would include anyone on this list that collects cameras - whatever their values, vintages and capabilities) loves that which he or she collects. If usable, they will be used - at least once in a while, just to prove that they are still worthy cameras. Of course there will be those cameras that are simply not to be used, due to great age/fragility/value. An investor wouldn't care if he's collecting cameras, cars or Haitian Voodoo masks. He doesn't acquire them to enjoy, he seeks profit, and will dispose of the items when such profits are maximized (or at least when he hopes they are). Thanks for setting me straight. regards, frank Tom Rittenhouse wrote: No, I think not. There collectors and there are investors. The investor don't give a diddlely about what they invest in all they are interested in is making money. A collector loves what he acquires, he fondles it, shows it to anyone who will look, and unless it is so valuable it would be stupid, sometimes even then, he uses it. A strange thing about investors in collectibles is that they never seem to realize they are buying retail and selling wholesale. Go figure Ciao, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Out with a TLR
Hi, Cotty, Short answer: yes. Long answer: they'll still think you're a doddering old fart (at least they do with me), BUT, they'll think you're an old fart with a cool camera. AND, they'll talk to ya (at least they do with me). My favourite line, after a snuggly young thing says, wow, that looks like an old camera, is to respond, yup, it's almost as old as I am! Of course, all I'm getting is a brief conversation, then a very polite goodbye. That's about all the excitement I can take right now, anyway! BTW, it's not only cute young thangs who were talking to me. Older (ie: my age) women and men of all ages were commenting as well - I just wasn't noticing them, that's all. ;-) Finally, my Spotmatics are paperweights. The Mat is a brick. :-) Look forward to seeing your cartoon!! regards, frank Cotty wrote: I heartily recommend it (I bet that 645's or 6x7's work just as well or better) for anyone who's social life is lagging a bit. So, Frank - lemme get this right - if I'm a sad old pudding with about as much chance of scoring with a pouting young lady as Bin Laden has in getting a mortgage on a nice little hideaway up in the mountains somewhere (which I am), then the answer to all my prayers is to wander around with a paperweight, er, Yashicamat TLR around my neck and have them trotting after me like the Pied Piper That's gotta be a great cartoon - I'll run one up over the holidays. Cheers! Cotty -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 6x7 LENSES
How good is the new 75? I've seen frequent mentions of the old 75/4.5. It seems that many consider it the sharpest 6x7 lens of all. It is a bit slow. If the new 75 maintains that sharpness in a faster format, it should be a very nice piece. I'm afraid to think how much it's going to cost. I love 35mm lenses in 35 mm format. A 75 might be very well suited to my kind of photography. Paul I'm still holding out for that 75mm f2.8. DO YOU HEAR ME, PENTAX CANADA? PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE IMPORT A 75MM F2.8 FOR 67! -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 6X7 on eBay - BIN of $425
After several weeks of studying 6x7 prices, I'd have to say that without a finder it's just so-so at that price. Quite a bit of cosmetic damage. IMHO, it would have to be really clean to be a good buy for $425. Cotty wrote: Saw this while up far too late.. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1313783517 Is that cheap or is that so-so? Cheers, Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
A Website (Hey, I'm trying)
After considerable knashing of teeth and whining to Shel about how hard this is, I have finally managed to construct the beginnings of a website. I still haven't figured out the thumbnail thing, so I have to apologize for a page of medium size jpegs, but at least it's a page :-). And I don't think these would be the photos I would choose to define my work, but, hey, they were hanging around on my hard drive. So with all those disclaimers, it's here http://home.earthlink.net/~pnstenquist/index.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S Data imprinting
When I go back to work next Saturday, I will also repeat the test to check the possibility that I screwed up. It sure wouldn't be the first time :-) Bill, KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Emilio Puga [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 11:24 AM Subject: RE: MZ-S Data imprinting Ok, let it go untill tomorrow, when I will do the test. I´m gonna place the camera in the dark box, cut the film, and put it on the processor, I think this is the way for doing the test. -Mensaje original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] En nombre de Pål Jensen Enviado el: domingo, 23 de diciembre de 2001 16:30 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Asunto: Re: MZ-S Data imprinting Bill wrote: Could some of you rewinders please explain how film that has been removed from the camera and processed without being rewound can still show the exposure data imprint please explain it to me. I have done this and seen the results. I honestly don't know Bill but some have done similar experiment as you and gotten a different result. I can't explain it. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Out with a TLR
frank theriault wrote: Hi, Cotty, Short answer: yes. Long answer: they'll still think you're a doddering old fart (at least they do with me), BUT, they'll think you're an old fart with a cool camera. AND, they'll talk to ya (at least they do with me). I must have been doing something wrong back in the days when I frequently wandered around with my ancient Rollei TLR. Never had a female sweet young thing say a word to me about it, or even give me a second glance. The only sweet young thing that ever tried to strike up a conversation with me was a cute boy in Washington Square Park (Greenwich Village) one day. I started leaving the camera home after that. :) Bob - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Photoshop
I use Photoshop 5.) on a Mac. The cursor inverts black/white as I move it across the gradient and so stays visible. Steve Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 09:57:38 +1000 From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PhotoShop, Wellington, Costa Rica On 23 Dec 2001 at 10:41, Aaron Reynolds wrote: Is this in Photoshop LE? In full Photoshop 4, 5 and 5.5 on the Mac I've never experienced this -- the cursor inverts its colour when dragged over a dark area. Nope, full blown PhotoShop on PC, create a work-space, make a gradient fill from black to white across the area and then move the cursor across the screen, it will disappear, a simple colour inversion can't prevent this, some simple code with a test and colour offset could. It is surprising how often the problem affects me during editing. I assume that this happens on the Mac? Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 6x7 LENSES
- Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist Subject: Re: 6x7 LENSES How good is the new 75? I've seen frequent mentions of the old 75/4.5. It seems that many consider it the sharpest 6x7 lens of all. It is a bit slow. If the new 75 maintains that sharpness in a faster format, it should be a very nice piece. I'm afraid to think how much it's going to cost. I love 35mm lenses in 35 mm format. A 75 might be very well suited to my kind of photography. Actually, Paul, the old 75mm f/4.5 is the other Bow-Wow Takumar. I know, I have one. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 6x7 LENSES
Here is my opinion of the sharpness of the lenses I use, in sequential order. All lenses are compared by using their best f-stop. Listing is from sharpest to least sharp. 1. 75mm 2. 45mm 3. 105mm 4. 600mm 5. 200mm 6. 300mm The 45, 105, 600 and 200 are very similar in sharpness while the 75 is noticeably better and the 300 is noticeably worse. SR -- Steve Rasmussen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), August 23, 1998 William Robb wrote: Actually, Paul, the old 75mm f/4.5 is the other Bow-Wow Takumar. I know, I have one. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . Which just goes to prove one can't believe everything one reads on the internet. The following is from a review of lens sharpness at http://greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=0008fN Here is my opinion of the sharpness of the lenses I use, in sequential order. All lenses are compared by using their best f-stop. Listing is from sharpest to least sharp. 1. 75mm 2. 45mm 3. 105mm 4. 600mm 5. 200mm 6. 300mm The 45, 105, 600 and 200 are very similar in sharpness while the 75 is noticably better and the 300 is noticeably worse. SR -- Steve Rasmussen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), August 23, 1998 I'm going to go with your opinion on this one Bill and avoid the old 75. I've had one bookmarked on ebay, but this too shall pass g Paul - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 6x7 LENSES
Whatever. - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 9:04 PM Subject: Re: 6x7 LENSES Here is my opinion of the sharpness of the lenses I use, in sequential order. All lenses are compared by using their best f-stop. Listing is from sharpest to least sharp. 1. 75mm 2. 45mm 3. 105mm 4. 600mm 5. 200mm 6. 300mm The 45, 105, 600 and 200 are very similar in sharpness while the 75 is noticeably better and the 300 is noticeably worse. SR -- Steve Rasmussen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), August 23, 1998 Whatever. In my own small collection of 6x7 lenses, I would place the 135 macro sharpest, then the 105mm, then the 90mm LS, then the 45mm, then the 75mm. The 75mm is also very flare prone, in my tests. I definitely have an old version 75mm f/4.5. They may well have improved it recently, but I would definitely avoid the old version. William Robb William Robb wrote: Actually, Paul, the old 75mm f/4.5 is the other Bow-Wow Takumar. I know, I have one. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . Which just goes to prove one can't believe everything one reads on the internet. The following is from a review of lens sharpness at http://greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=0008fN Here is my opinion of the sharpness of the lenses I use, in sequential order. All lenses are compared by using their best f-stop. Listing is from sharpest to least sharp. 1. 75mm 2. 45mm 3. 105mm 4. 600mm 5. 200mm 6. 300mm The 45, 105, 600 and 200 are very similar in sharpness while the 75 is noticably better and the 300 is noticeably worse. SR -- Steve Rasmussen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), August 23, 1998 I'm going to go with your opinion on this one Bill and avoid the old 75. I've had one bookmarked on ebay, but this too shall pass g Paul - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 6x7 LENSES
William Robb wrote: Whatever. In my own small collection of 6x7 lenses, I would place the 135 macro sharpest, then the 105mm, then the 90mm LS, then the 45mm, then the 75mm. The 75mm is also very flare prone, in my tests. I definitely have an old version 75mm f/4.5. They may well have improved it recently, but I would definitely avoid the old version. Thanks for the rundown. A lot of people have high praise for the 135 macro. It's also quite pricey, but the 105 seems to be a relative bargain. However, I think I'm going to look for a 45 or 55. That will give me a good landscape lens to go with the 150, which hopefully will prove a good portrait lens. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Out with a TLR
You must be too good looking. The older and uglier you are, the less threatening and therefore more approachable you are. The TLR (or other medium format cam) is just a further ice-breaker. Try dressing down. An old ripped army surplus parka works for me. regards, frank Robert Harris wrote: I must have been doing something wrong back in the days when I frequently wandered around with my ancient Rollei TLR. Never had a female sweet young thing say a word to me about it, or even give me a second glance. The only sweet young thing that ever tried to strike up a conversation with me was a cute boy in Washington Square Park (Greenwich Village) one day. I started leaving the camera home after that. :) -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: OT: Out with a TLR
Thanks, Frank. Now my fiancee wants to borrow my new Yashicamat and take it out for a spin in the city. ;) --Amita - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Out with a TLR
frank theriault wrote: You must be too good looking. The older and uglier you are, the less threatening and therefore more approachable you are. The TLR (or other medium format cam) is just a further ice-breaker. Try dressing down. An old ripped army surplus parka works for me. I've been old and ugly for years, alas. Hasn't done me a bit of good. And all of my clothes are pretty old and ratty, too. Maybe I should just follow you around and pick up the leftovers. :) Bob - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Out with a TLR
Amita Guha wrote: Thanks, Frank. Now my fiancee wants to borrow my new Yashicamat and take it out for a spin in the city. ;) But according to Frank it won't do him any good unless he is old and ugly, and therefore unthreatening. You probably are safe. He will come home alone. Bob - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: Photoshop LE
Hi I just bought a copy of Photoshop 5.0 LE. Will one of the books available for Photoshop 5 or 5.5 (not LE) guide me through learning how to get started in Photoshop LE? Any book or websight recommendations for a Photoshop newby who is a bit intimidated by this program? Thanks Tony - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Photoshop LE disappearing cursor and other limitations
Richard, I don't think you're quite right about perspective control in LE. The effect is available under Image/Effects/Perspective, but only after you have selected part of the image - prior to making a selection the option is grayed out. Don't know about the inverting cursor, mine always seems to be a gray which I can pick out on screen most of the time. I have Version 5.5, BTW John Coyle Brisbane, Australia On Monday, December 24, 2001 4:29 AM, Richard Seaman [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: folks, Yes, I was having the problem with Photoshop LE. So now it seems that LE doesn't have the full Photoshop version's inverting cursor, nor from my experimentation and what others have told me does it have a tool to enable you to correct perspective distortion in buildings photographed with a wide angle lens. People who are considering buying photo manipulation software might want to take these things into consideration, because I believe it makes Photoshop LE much less desirable. Sounds to me like a serious marketing mistake on Adobe's part - they should have left out esoteric tools, not basic requirements. Richard. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Vs: OT - Voigtlander Bessa R
I have only used 2 Voigtländer lenses - 4.5/15 mm and 1.7/35 mm - and they are good. The R body seems to be priced at about 900 USD - cheap only when compared with Leica. The camera and lenses are indeed made by Cosina in Japan. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 24. joulukuuta 2001 5:13 Aihe: OT - Voigtlander Bessa R A month or two ago, I recall some discussion here about whether Pentax should consider marketing an upgraded Spotmatic - a sort of limited edition high-quality metal-bodied all-mechanical. Love my Spotmatics though I do, I think I poo-pooed the idea as something that Pentax would never do, thinking that there would be no market for it, and it would be too expensive to be worth doing. I just noticed the Voigtlander Bessa R. A rangefinder with a metal body, all mechanical with led ttl metering, takes Leica (L mount) screwmount lenses (for goodness sake!). I think they're made in Japan by Cosina. I'm very interested! Anyone out there have any experience with them? Anyone know how much they cost? Thanks and regards, frank This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
