RE: Vivitar Series 1 28/1.9 Lens Focusing

2002-06-12 Thread HUDERER Bernd

Hi Steve and all Vivitar users,

yes it's normal and due to the floating element. IIRC, the rear element is
the floating one. If you turn the focus ring, you can see that from a
specific point, the rear element is moving ( or was it the front element ?).
As it gets hold in normal position by springs, you have to apply the extra
force from the specific point of focussing to stretch this springs.
As I openend some time ago my sample, I know a little bit more than one can
see from the outside.

Bernd H.


Steve Larson wrote:

 Normal. Both of mine do this, and others I`ve handled also do it.
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re: media philosophy debate

2002-06-12 Thread mike wilson

Hi,

Fernando wrote:

 Sorry, but I couldn't see where the paradox is..

and Bob S. wrote:

 Think about the opposite.

amongst others.

My apologies for not making myself clear.

The paradox for me is at least two fold.  I cannot represent
what I see as well as I see it, either because I have to
concentrate on a portion of it to try to bring out one of the
qualities of what I see or the medium is not capable of
reproducing at least one of the qualities I want to show.  

Secondly, the very act of trying to produce a representation of
what I am seeing interferes with my viewing of the
scene/phenomenon/whatever.

I suspect that the second is the more important; it is certainly
the reason a number of people have given to me for not being
interested in photography.

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The elusive K 35mm f3.5

2002-06-12 Thread smcforme

 I have been casually looking out for a SMC 35/3.5 in K-mount for months, and have not 
seen hide nor hair of it. I bought one in M42, and have seen 3 others for really 
decent prices. But in K-mount this thing must be fairly rare. Same story for the SMC 
85/1.8. I just bought one of those in M42 as well. I was intending to start assembling 
a K-mount kit, but it would appear I'm getting pretty entrenched in the screw mount 
stuff. 
Oh well, long live Spotmatics I guess.
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Re: Re[4]: What is the most quiet body?

2002-06-12 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk

on 25.05.02 5:43, William Robb at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I must concur with Brother Bruce on this. Have you looked that
 the Nikon F100 and the Nikkor lens line.
 Much better AF than the PZ1p, and much faster operation than the
 MZ-S.
And F100 has over 300 g of weight more than MZ-S... it costs a solid couple
of bucks more, and it still lacks some nice features of MZ-S: wirelles flash
as a standard, MRC, leaving film leader out after rewinding, reading
exposure information for each frame requires expensive add-ons (software for
PC)...

 The Nikkor lenses are surprisingly good.
 
That's true!

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Re: film in the fridge?

2002-06-12 Thread Frantisek Vlcek

On a related issue (I have still boxes of 120 E-6 in the freezer and
they came out perfectly even after quite old),

I was told it's paramount to shoot and process freezed film as soon as
possible after getting it out of the fridge (with E-6 pro film which
has been already aged in the factory).

Is that true :) ?

Thanks

Frantisek
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Re: The elusive K 35mm f3.5

2002-06-12 Thread Bob Rapp

Don't give up! It took me years to find mine. Present owners are reluctant
to give them up. Be happy with the Takumars and mount and use them on your K
equipment.

Bob
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Subject: The elusive K 35mm f3.5


 I have been casually looking out for a SMC 35/3.5 in K-mount for months,
and have not seen hide nor hair of it. I bought one in M42, and have seen 3
others for really decent prices. But in K-mount this thing must be fairly
rare. Same story for the SMC 85/1.8. I just bought one of those in M42 as
well. I was intending to start assembling a K-mount kit, but it would appear
I'm getting pretty entrenched in the screw mount stuff.
 Oh well, long live Spotmatics I guess.
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Re: The elusive K 35mm f3.5

2002-06-12 Thread David . Mann

Bob Rapp wrote:

 Don't give up! It took me years to find mine. Present owners are
reluctant
 to give them up. Be happy with the Takumars and mount and use them on
your K
 equipment.

I stumbled across mine in a pawn shop a couple of years ago.  I wasn't even
looking for it but I remembered some discussions on PDML about it so I
bought it.  It was actually quite cheap, about the same price as a
secondhand 50mm f/1.7 would be in NZ and its mint condition.  Its one of my
long list of favourite lenses and when I borrowed an LX to attach it to, I
felt like I'd died and gone to heaven.  I can't think of a more perfect
combination.

Bob's comment is spot-on IMO; I doubt the lens is rare but those who own
them don't want to part with them.

Cheers,

- Dave
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Re: Phoenix ringlight

2002-06-12 Thread Camdir

In a message dated 12/06/02 08:05:39 GMT Daylight Time, Bob writes:

 Does anybody out there use a Phoenix ringlight flash?
 Does it link up to TTL metering in the LX or Super Program.
 Or the PZ-1 for that matter... 

If this is the same as the Vivitar 6000AF P, then yes it does. I used it with 
Super A and 50mm F2.8 A Macro. This is the type in which the batteries are 
sep from the flash tube?

Peter
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Re: OT Mercury 625 batteries?

2002-06-12 Thread Camdir

Steve

We have them, in spades. However they are still £4 ie $6 apiece. I have 
shipped plenty to US before and never had a problem.

Kind regards

Peter
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Re: Vivitar Series 1 28/1.9 Lens Focusing

2002-06-12 Thread Steve Larson

Hello Bernd!
 Now that makes perfect sense. I think you`re right that the rear element
floats, because my K-mount specimen had a loose filter ring on it,
Dean (my repairman) took it apart and told me to hold the front
element group while he tightened some screws, and I don`t
remember him fighting any springs in the process.
 The nice thing about this list-you`ll get to the bottom of it, no matter
what.
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California
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From: HUDERER Bernd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 12:00 AM
Subject: RE: Vivitar Series 1 28/1.9 Lens Focusing


 Hi Steve and all Vivitar users,

 yes it's normal and due to the floating element. IIRC, the rear element is
 the floating one. If you turn the focus ring, you can see that from a
 specific point, the rear element is moving ( or was it the front element
?).
 As it gets hold in normal position by springs, you have to apply the extra
 force from the specific point of focussing to stretch this springs.
 As I openend some time ago my sample, I know a little bit more than one
can
 see from the outside.

 Bernd H.


 Steve Larson wrote:

  Normal. Both of mine do this, and others I`ve handled also do it.
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Re: (2): Cost of Black and White Film Processing?

2002-06-12 Thread David Brooks

Hi Frank.I have two choices in my area,one is the 
Rapid Photo at Markville Mall and the other is Accent
Photo 14th Ave and Woodbine(Aaron being the third):)
I usually take it to Accent over Rapid as the latter
does not do 120 film or E-6,so if i have  a roll
of each i can do it at one place instead of
2-3 places.
Prices and turn around is  on par,i think, witrh other
labs,and Accent is close to the office.

Dave

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From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 16:40:45 -0400
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Cost of Black and White Film Processing?


Hi, Dave,

Just curious, but where do you get your bw done?  That's about what 
my
buddy Robert at APO charges, but he'll usually knock off a coupla 
bucks
if I bring in multiple rolls.  I got 3 rolls back yesterday, and he
charged me a total of $90, tax included, for developing and 4x6 
proofs.

regards,
frank

David Brooks wrote:

 Hi Harald.
 Just looking at an old bill from May.
 Process 2 rolls of 36        $10.00
 Proofs,4x6 times 72          $46.80
 Add taxes                    $65.32 Total

 Above are in Canadian funds Us would be about
 $40.00

 Dave

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 From: harald_nancy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 18:22:08 -0700
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Cost of Black and White Film Processing?

 Just got back from a trip, and took a few rolls of black and white
 Tri-X.
 First time I've used black and white in many years.
 The sticker shock, Kits Camera wants $16.00 to develop and print
 a 36 exposure bw roll. Is that a normal price?
 Last time I used black and white, it was less expensive than color.
 Does anyone know a more cost effective lab for bw film processing?
 I'm not planning to develop and print my own bw.
 Thanks for any info.
 Harald
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OT: HIE bad scrathes

2002-06-12 Thread David Brooks

Just wondering if this has happened to anyone on
the list.
Received my latest 2 IR rolls back Tuesday.The second
roll(last shot)was all scratched,and badly,like a cat
sharpened its claws on the negs.This was a roll
i had winding troubles with from frame one.
I really had to pull hard on the wind crank and weird
noises were made.When i got to about frome 25 or so
it would not advance,i rewound a few turns then cranked
forward,same thing,very stiff and would stop at the same
spots.
I finally gave up and rewound but it would not rewind fully
so i unloaded in the dark and put it in the can.
Just wondering if the can could have been bad.I looked
at the interior of the camera(S3)and all looks fine.
The HIE roll in it now winds fine.
Any one have similar problems.
BTW there are 2-3 on the roll that i hope to save in PS
they are nice errie images.

Dave(sorry for the long one)


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Re: Re: Pentax 6x7

2002-06-12 Thread David Brooks

I say the same auction Garry but the deceased friend thing 
had me concerned.

Dave
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That's sort of what I figured, but at the same time, he says that he's
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re: media philosophy debate

2002-06-12 Thread Bob Poe

Mike,
Do you mean that there is only one way to see a
subject/scene?  Are you saying that the act of
observation doesn't change the subject/scene?
Very curious.
Bob
--- mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Fernando wrote:
 
  Sorry, but I couldn't see where the paradox is..
 
 and Bob S. wrote:
 
  Think about the opposite.
 
 amongst others.
 
 My apologies for not making myself clear.
 
 The paradox for me is at least two fold.  I cannot
 represent
 what I see as well as I see it, either because I
 have to
 concentrate on a portion of it to try to bring out
 one of the
 qualities of what I see or the medium is not capable
 of
 reproducing at least one of the qualities I want to
 show.  
 
 Secondly, the very act of trying to produce a
 representation of
 what I am seeing interferes with my viewing of the
 scene/phenomenon/whatever.
 
 I suspect that the second is the more important; it
 is certainly
 the reason a number of people have given to me for
 not being
 interested in photography.
 
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Re: Problem with list

2002-06-12 Thread David Brooks

Sometimes.If your ISP is off line for repairs etc,
the messages bounce back to our list overseer and you'll get
unsubscribed.Happens to me with this free account about
3-4 times a year.

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Re: Cool portraiture (what do you think Shel?)

2002-06-12 Thread wendy beard

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  It's OT since it's Rolleiflex TLR, not Pentax, but I think this guy's work
  is great.
  Enjoy...
 
  http://www.pyke-eye.com/main.html
 
  Albano

Great portraits. I thought the images were very strong.
Made me think though.
My husband just came back from a trip abroad with two work colleages. He 
had made two portrait shots of them in a cafe. He too had lopped the top of 
their heads off. Perhaps he had done it intentionally after all. (and 
not just mis-read the frame-marks in the viewfinder)

Wendy

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Re: Pentax Shop on Narita Airport

2002-06-12 Thread Camdir

In a message dated 12/06/02 17:18:08 GMT Daylight Time, Bernd writes:

 Hi all,
 
 during a flight to Asia next way, I have a 3 hour stay at Tokyo Airport. Is
 there a possibilty to buy Pentax stuff in one of the Airport shops? I am
 looking for Limited lenses, especially the black ones which are not
 available in Europe. 

No. In a word. You might be able to buy the digibinos, though. The Airport 
shop stocks next to nothing for serious Pentaxers. In 3 hours you cannot get 
to central Tokyo and back, unless you are extremely lucky. 

Kind regards from sunny Brighton

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APS Film

2002-06-12 Thread Bowman, John

Just wondering what the general consciences is on APS film format.

A few years ago, it was introduced with great fan fare as the next
revolution in film. Doesn't seem to have made much of an impact and it is
not that easy to get at times. In its defense, I purchased a Canon ELPH Jr.
a while back and it uses the APS system and I am impressed. The ELPH is
small enough that it can fit into a shirt pocket and the results from the
APS are not bad... I like the multiple formats.

From what I hear, there have not been any new APS cameras introduced lately
so I am wondering what its future is.

Cheers,
John

Nova Scotia
Canada
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Re: Pentax Spare (35mm\67) parts on ebay

2002-06-12 Thread Rfsindg

Oliver,

You've got to send along the ebay seller's name.
The link you supplied only works from your ebay account.

Regards,  Bob S.

I found some shop that is closing, and is putting MANY spare parts (mostly covers 
and bodies) for 35mm Spotties and also 67 Pentax bodies.  
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Re: What is the most quiet body?

2002-06-12 Thread b_rubenstein

The listed weight difference is a bit less than 300 g 
(255g). This is without batteries though; the MZ-S uses 
those little toy ones and the F100 uses AA. With 
batteries the difference is more. Unless, of course, you 
don't like little toy batteries, and you get the battery 
grip for the MZ-S. The the size,weight and cost of the 
two cameras even up.
I still think that comparing the two cameras is an 
apples ond oranges situation: they are two very 
different cameras for different types of users.


From: Sylwester Pietrzyk 
...And F100 has over 300 g of weight more than MZ-S... 
it costs a solid couple
of bucks more, and it still lacks some nice features of 
MZ-S: wirelles flash
as a standard, MRC, leaving film leader out after 
rewinding, reading
exposure information for each frame requires expensive 
add-ons (software for
PC)...
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Re: OT: Mercury 625 batteries?

2002-06-12 Thread Bmacrae

In a message dated 6/11/2002 10:32:55 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 I've heard that they don't last very long?

That I'm not sure about.

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Re: APS Film

2002-06-12 Thread Bruce Dayton

John,

My guess is that digital is killing APS off much faster than it is
killing off 35mm. I believe that the biggest benefit to the smaller
format is size of body and lens.  So you can get a fairly compact
camera that produces reasonable PS pictures.  Some of the digital
models are equally small and have the digital benefits (no film cost,
instant feedback).  Both of my daughters have an APS camera and love
them because of the small size.  They are willing to take them many
places that they just wouldn't bother with an SLR.  They are very
willing to compromise the image quality for the convenience.

I believe the future is grim for APS.  As demand goes down, the prices
for film and developing will rise and then digital will seem like a no
brainer.


Bruce



Wednesday, June 12, 2002, 9:46:27 AM, you wrote:

BJ Just wondering what the general consciences is on APS film format.

BJ A few years ago, it was introduced with great fan fare as the next
BJ revolution in film. Doesn't seem to have made much of an impact and it is
BJ not that easy to get at times. In its defense, I purchased a Canon ELPH Jr.
BJ a while back and it uses the APS system and I am impressed. The ELPH is
BJ small enough that it can fit into a shirt pocket and the results from the
BJ APS are not bad... I like the multiple formats.

BJ From what I hear, there have not been any new APS cameras introduced lately
BJ so I am wondering what its future is.

BJ Cheers,
BJ John

BJ Nova Scotia
BJ Canada
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Re: APS Film

2002-06-12 Thread Bill Owens

Minolta has stopped producing cameras for APS.  Our minilab (totally
outdated Konica) can only 35mm and 110.  Customers who wish to have APS
processed, nearly all complain about the $8.99 charge from Qualex.  I'd say
give it 5 years at the most before it goes the way of Discfilm.

Bill  KG4LOV
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From: Bowman, John [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pentax Discussion Group (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 12:46 PM
Subject: APS Film


 Just wondering what the general consciences is on APS film format.

 A few years ago, it was introduced with great fan fare as the next
 revolution in film. Doesn't seem to have made much of an impact and it is
 not that easy to get at times. In its defense, I purchased a Canon ELPH
Jr.
 a while back and it uses the APS system and I am impressed. The ELPH is
 small enough that it can fit into a shirt pocket and the results from the
 APS are not bad... I like the multiple formats.

 From what I hear, there have not been any new APS cameras introduced
lately
 so I am wondering what its future is.

 Cheers,
 John

 Nova Scotia
 Canada
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Re: Re[4]: What is the most quiet body?

2002-06-12 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: Sylwester Pietrzyk
Subject: Re: Re[4]: What is the most quiet body?

  I must concur with Brother Bruce on this. Have you looked
that
  the Nikon F100 and the Nikkor lens line.
  Much better AF than the PZ1p, and much faster operation than
the
  MZ-S.
 And F100 has over 300 g of weight more than MZ-S... it costs a
solid couple
 of bucks more, and it still lacks some nice features of MZ-S:
wirelles flash
 as a standard, MRC, leaving film leader out after rewinding,
reading
 exposure information for each frame requires expensive add-ons
(software for
 PC)...

I recall from the thread that these features on the Pentax were
not considered important. What was important was high drive
speed and fast AF.

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Re: APS Film

2002-06-12 Thread Bmacrae

John,

It will probably end up like disc, 110, and other formats.

I, too, have used APS. I have used the N Pronea APS SLR. It hase 
autofocus (of course) and uses interchangeable lenses, albeit only zooms. I 
was very impressed with the photos got with the camera but at the same time 
wouldn't dream of owning this camera.

Looks like it's been discontinued already so I doubt other makes will soon be 
turning out APS SLR's. There's just very little market for them. 

However, for someone like my wife's cousin who owns the camera, it's a nice 
introduction to manual focusing (you can switch between man/auto), fill 
flash, and experimenting with composition at different focal lengths. She 
loves that camera, so for her it's a really good fit. It's a step up from 
point and shoots and more user-friendly than a true SLR.

-Brendan
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Agfa RSX II

2002-06-12 Thread Bill Owens

As most of you know, I'm somewhat of an Agfa fanatic.  In my last order from
BH, I had them send me a roll of the RSX II ISO 50.  Has anyone else tried
it, and if so, what's your opinion?

Thanks
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Re: Eclipse Photo

2002-06-12 Thread smcforme

 I wonder what calculations the photographer used to get the nearly pefect spacing of 
each exposure?
  Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a great photo of this 
week's eclipse on today's Astonomy Picture of
the Day:

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html

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RE: Tips on Film Development temps

2002-06-12 Thread tom

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Delano Mireles


 With the onset of summer here in Texas I find myself having
 a difficult time
 controlling the temperature of my developing chemicals and
 so I come to
 y'all (Like I said - I'm from Texas) for any tips on
 keeping your soup at a
 consistent temp.

Well, first thing you need is a tempering bath, and maybe a good
supply of ice cubes.

2nd thing would be an air conditioner. Or do you have swamp coolers
down there?

#rd, increase your processing temperature. The standard temp is 68,
don't be afraid to move up to 75. That's 7 degress you don't have to
worry about.

tv

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RE: RE: HIE bad scrathes

2002-06-12 Thread tom

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Brooks



 Tom.I only wish.It was scracthed from frame 1 to were i stopped
 at frame 25 or 26.There were about 10 to 15 horizontal lines
 through out from 1 to 25.

So it was evenly scratched from the start to where it jammed?


 Thanks.When i looked at the camera after removing the cannister
 all seemed ok.I had no idea this was going on until development.
 BTW there was N/C from the lab on proccess and proofs.

Do the scratches show up on the prints? Sometimes little scratches
don't.

Now I'm wondering if the cannister wasn't damaged. I've had a similar
problem when the lip on the can gets a little crushed...that little
extra pressure builds up until you can't advance anymore.

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Re: Tips on Film Development temps

2002-06-12 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: Delano Mireles

 With the onset of summer here in Texas I find myself having a
difficult time
 controlling the temperature of my developing chemicals and so
I come to
 y'all (Like I said - I'm from Texas) for any tips on keeping
your soup at a
 consistent temp.

I presume you are processing BW, as colour goes pretty warm.

The best way for tropical processing is to cool the chemistry to
processing temperature in a refrigerator and use a water bath to
keep the temperature constant during processing. Ice can be used
in the water bath to cool it, as required.
This may not help much for paper processing, but temperature is
not quite so critical for paper as it is for film.

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Re: Re[4]: What is the most quiet body?

2002-06-12 Thread dick graham

To me high drive speed and fast AF are really not that important unless 
your covering sports or other high speed action.

DG



At 11:32 AM 6/12/02 -0600, you wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Sylwester Pietrzyk
Subject: Re: Re[4]: What is the most quiet body?
 
   I must concur with Brother Bruce on this. Have you looked
that
   the Nikon F100 and the Nikkor lens line.
   Much better AF than the PZ1p, and much faster operation than
the
   MZ-S.
  And F100 has over 300 g of weight more than MZ-S... it costs a
solid couple
  of bucks more, and it still lacks some nice features of MZ-S:
wirelles flash
  as a standard, MRC, leaving film leader out after rewinding,
reading
  exposure information for each frame requires expensive add-ons
(software for
  PC)...

I recall from the thread that these features on the Pentax were
not considered important. What was important was high drive
speed and fast AF.

William Robb
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Re: Eclipse Photo

2002-06-12 Thread wendy beard

From: Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Eclipse Photo 

There is a great photo of this week's eclipse on today's Astonomy Picture of 
the Day: 

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html 

That is a brilliant photo!
Wish I'd got to see it :-(
There are a couple of good ones in the Spaceweather gallery too
http://science.nasa.gov/spaceweather/eclipses/gallery_10june02.html

One thing that puzzles me; The picture of the day in Daniels's link looks like it was 
taken normally without any filters - otherwise how else would the golden gate bridge 
appear on the photo? I thought that this was an absolute no-no and dangerous to the 
eyes to do this. Obviously I must be mistaken. Also a few of the other photos I have 
seen also appear to have been taken without filters. Are there any solar eclipse 
photographers on the list? How do you do it?

Wendy

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Re[6]: What is the most quiet body?

2002-06-12 Thread Bruce Dayton

dick,

That is exactly what the original poster said was important.  That is
why the whole discussion occurred.  The MZ-S was ruled out in favor of
the PZ-1p because of high drive speed.  Then I said that Pentax is not
strong in this venue.  The PZ-1p has winder speed but single sensor AF
and the MZ-S has slow winder speed.  No pentax glass has the
equivalent of USM motors in the lenses, which helps with speed on big
glass.  Since the poster was going to buy body and lenses for it, I
suggested he look to other brands also as they might meet his needs
better.


Bruce



Wednesday, June 12, 2002, 10:55:23 AM, you wrote:

dg To me high drive speed and fast AF are really not that important unless 
dg your covering sports or other high speed action.

dg DG



dg At 11:32 AM 6/12/02 -0600, you wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Sylwester Pietrzyk
Subject: Re: Re[4]: What is the most quiet body?
 
   I must concur with Brother Bruce on this. Have you looked
that
   the Nikon F100 and the Nikkor lens line.
   Much better AF than the PZ1p, and much faster operation than
the
   MZ-S.
  And F100 has over 300 g of weight more than MZ-S... it costs a
solid couple
  of bucks more, and it still lacks some nice features of MZ-S:
wirelles flash
  as a standard, MRC, leaving film leader out after rewinding,
reading
  exposure information for each frame requires expensive add-ons
(software for
  PC)...

I recall from the thread that these features on the Pentax were
not considered important. What was important was high drive
speed and fast AF.

William Robb
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RE: Eclipse Photo

2002-06-12 Thread Paris, Leonard

An interval timer that took a picture every n seconds.

Len
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From: smcforme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 12:47 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Eclipse Photo


 I wonder what calculations the photographer used to get the nearly pefect
spacing of each exposure?
  Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a great photo
of this week's eclipse on today's Astonomy Picture of
the Day:

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html
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Re: APS Film

2002-06-12 Thread Mark Roberts

Brendan wrote:

It will probably end up like disc, 110, and other formats.

Driving around on vacation recently, I noticed sereral touristy sort of
places stocked 35mm film but no APS...but they *did* have some 110 film!
(I got excited when I first saw the boxes because I thought it might be
120 medium format!)

For an interesting study of the phenomenon of denial, see the rec.photo.equipment.aps
newsgroup ;-)
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Re: Agfa RSX II

2002-06-12 Thread David Brooks

Bill.
I have only tried 1 roll of 100 and 1 roll of 200.As i'm 
shooting slide film for the first time in a while,these are
just my opinions.
Using only a light table and no loupe,i see little differences
but am impressed with the colour.It seems accurate to what i 
shot.
My second roll of 100 will be viewEd Thursday,more comments
to come??So far i like the Fuji Provia F400 and the Agfa rsx II
100/200.

FWIW:Aaron recommended the 200 when i was at his shop last,when
i asked about 120 slide film.

Dave(Probably not answering the quiry :))

 Begin Original Message 

From: Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 13:31:30 -0400
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Agfa RSX II


As most of you know, I'm somewhat of an Agfa fanatic.  In my last 
order from
BH, I had them send me a roll of the RSX II ISO 50.  Has anyone else 
tried
it, and if so, what's your opinion?

Thanks
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Re: RE: RE: HIE bad scrathes

2002-06-12 Thread David Brooks

 Begin Original Message 

Dave scribed


 Tom.I only wish.It was scracthed from frame 1 to were i stopped
 at frame 25 or 26.There were about 10 to 15 horizontal lines
 through out from 1 to 25.
  Then Tom
So it was evenly scratched from the start to where it jammed?

Yes.First few were light but very noticable.

  Then Dave
 Thanks.When i looked at the camera after removing the cannister
 all seemed ok.I had no idea this was going on until development.
 BTW there was N/C from the lab on proccess and proofs.
 Then Tom

Do the scratches show up on the prints? Sometimes little scratches
don't.

Yes,some not as strong as others but they are there.

Now I'm wondering if the cannister wasn't damaged. I've had a similar
problem when the lip on the can gets a little crushed...that little
extra pressure builds up until you can't advance anymore.

Thats what i'm hoping.I have put through about 4-5 colour rolls
and 5-6 BW rolls and now 4 rolls of IR.This is the only 
problem so far.
I cannot see it being dust or dirt,if it is i got one big
motha of a hole somewere :)
I was just wondering if others have had bad cannister days too??

tv

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RE: Eclipse Photo

2002-06-12 Thread smcforme

I wasn't refer to the consistency of the spacing, but the degree of spacing. As in how 
did he/she know how long to make each exposure so that each image of the sun did not 
overlap or be too far apart.  
  Paris, Leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An interval timer that took a 
picture every n seconds.

Len
---

-Original Message-
From: smcforme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 12:47 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Eclipse Photo


I wonder what calculations the photographer used to get the nearly pefect
spacing of each exposure?
Daniel J. Matyola wrote: There is a great photo
of this week's eclipse on today's Astonomy Picture of
the Day:

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html
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Re: Tips on Film Development temps

2002-06-12 Thread Delano Mireles

Thanks, Tom.  I have the bath but I just have a difficult time dialing it in
at around 68 degrees.  Sometimes I overshoot and get it down to 62 and then
have a hard time getting it back up without overshooting.  Then again, I'm
probably not being patient enough :-)

Thanks again,

Delano

on 6/12/02 12:03 PM, tom at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Delano Mireles
 
 
 With the onset of summer here in Texas I find myself having
 a difficult time
 controlling the temperature of my developing chemicals and
 so I come to
 y'all (Like I said - I'm from Texas) for any tips on
 keeping your soup at a
 consistent temp.
 
 Well, first thing you need is a tempering bath, and maybe a good
 supply of ice cubes.
 
 2nd thing would be an air conditioner. Or do you have swamp coolers
 down there?
 
 #rd, increase your processing temperature. The standard temp is 68,
 don't be afraid to move up to 75. That's 7 degress you don't have to
 worry about.
 
 tv
 
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Re: Are all Pentax filters SMC?

2002-06-12 Thread Pat White

Nearly all modern Pentax filters are SMC, and marked accordingly, although I found an 
old non-SMC 49mm Pentax flood filter (looks like an 80A, maybe for floodlights at 
sports events?) at a yard sale.

However, I read somewhere that polarizing filters are usually not multi-coated.  Does 
someone else know for sure?

In my opinion, go with Pentax, and don't be in doubt!

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Re: Tips on Film Development temps

2002-06-12 Thread Delano Mireles

Bill,

Thanks for the suggestion.  I had not thought about using the fridge to cool
the chemistry.  Now I just need to get clearance from my wife :-)

Delano


on 6/12/02 12:57 PM, William Robb at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 - Original Message -
 From: Delano Mireles
 
 With the onset of summer here in Texas I find myself having a
 difficult time
 controlling the temperature of my developing chemicals and so
 I come to
 y'all (Like I said - I'm from Texas) for any tips on keeping
 your soup at a
 consistent temp.
 
 I presume you are processing BW, as colour goes pretty warm.
 
 The best way for tropical processing is to cool the chemistry to
 processing temperature in a refrigerator and use a water bath to
 keep the temperature constant during processing. Ice can be used
 in the water bath to cool it, as required.
 This may not help much for paper processing, but temperature is
 not quite so critical for paper as it is for film.
 
 William Robb
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Re: RE: RE: HIE bad scrathes

2002-06-12 Thread Jenny Wallace

If the scratches continued past where you had stopped shooting, I would say 
it was very possible that the photo lab had scratched your film. Possible 
from dirty racks in the film processor. However, since only the section of 
the film you ran through the camera is damaged, I would agree that it's 
probably the canister.


Original Message Follows
From: David Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: RE: RE: HIE bad scrathes
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 14:35:18 -0400

 Begin Original Message 

 Dave scribed
 
 
  Tom.I only wish.It was scracthed from frame 1 to were i stopped
  at frame 25 or 26.There were about 10 to 15 horizontal lines
  through out from 1 to 25.
   Then Tom
 So it was evenly scratched from the start to where it jammed?

Yes.First few were light but very noticable.

   Then Dave
  Thanks.When i looked at the camera after removing the cannister
  all seemed ok.I had no idea this was going on until development.
  BTW there was N/C from the lab on proccess and proofs.
 Then Tom

 Do the scratches show up on the prints? Sometimes little scratches
 don't.

Yes,some not as strong as others but they are there.

 Now I'm wondering if the cannister wasn't damaged. I've had a similar
 problem when the lip on the can gets a little crushed...that little
 extra pressure builds up until you can't advance anymore.

Thats what i'm hoping.I have put through about 4-5 colour rolls
and 5-6 BW rolls and now 4 rolls of IR.This is the only
problem so far.
I cannot see it being dust or dirt,if it is i got one big
motha of a hole somewere :)
I was just wondering if others have had bad cannister days too??

 tv

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Re: Are all Pentax Filters SMC?

2002-06-12 Thread Alan Chan

I'd like to buy a circular polarizing filter, and had
a few questions:

1. BH sells the Pentax Circular Polarizer, but
doesn't specify that it is multi-coated. Does Pentax
sell non-SMC filters?

I don't think the Pentax polarizers are multicoated, at least the Japanese 
web site doesn't say so.

regards,
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Re: Agfa RSX II

2002-06-12 Thread Jostein

Hi, Bill.
In my experience, the RSX II 50 will behave differently when processed
by different labs. From two labs here in Oslo, I have received images
with a noticeable magenta cast which was not at all nice. However, I
have also found a lab that do a decent job on this film.

Last winter I tried it side by side with a Provia 100f on ice motifs.
Ice is an ideal subject for testing colour casts. Both films were
developed by the lab I knew to produce decent results with Agfa.
Compared to the provia, the Agfa produced a slight magenta cast. The
provia, however, produced a slight cyan cast. Don't think I would have
noticed either without doing the comparison, but there it was.

I also noticed that the RSX II is slightly more grainy than is Provia
100, and less contrasty.

However, the RSX seem to have a half to one stop more latitude than
the Provia. In my shots, this was noticeable in the highlights. In the
ice there were more shades of white with the Agfa.

Did my test with a Pentax 645 and A-120/4 macro on tripod. Exposure
times were ca. 1-4 seconds.

Jostein
http://oksne.net

- Original Message -
From: Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 As most of you know, I'm somewhat of an Agfa fanatic.  In my last
order from
 BH, I had them send me a roll of the RSX II ISO 50.  Has anyone
else tried
 it, and if so, what's your opinion?

 Thanks
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RE: APS Film

2002-06-12 Thread Paris, Leonard

You don't have to go that far.  Just stay right here and read about digital.
You'll get all the denial you can handle.

Len
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Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 1:29 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: APS Film

For an interesting study of the phenomenon of denial, see the
rec.photo.equipment.aps
newsgroup ;-)
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Re: Re: RE: RE: HIE bad scrathes

2002-06-12 Thread David Brooks

Hi Jenny.
I looked at the neg's and the scratching stops at the last 
frame shot.Both rolls were done together so the lab
felt it was a camera problem.
I was going to mention to them about the stiff winding
but thought it should not matter.I will advise them in the
future and hopfully IR roll number 4 will be clean.
If daughter lets me on the computer tonight,i'll scan
one and throw it on my tripod site.

Dave

 Begin Original Message 

From: Jenny Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 15:09:29 -0400
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: RE: RE: HIE bad scrathes


If the scratches continued past where you had stopped shooting, I 
would say 
it was very possible that the photo lab had scratched your film. 
Possible 
 from dirty racks in the film processor. However, since only the 
section of 
the film you ran through the camera is damaged, I would agree that 
it's 
probably the canister.





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RE: Eclipse Photo

2002-06-12 Thread Peifer, William [OCDUS]

Wendy Beard wrote:
 The picture of the day in Daniels's link looks like it was taken normally
 without any filters - otherwise how else would the golden gate bridge
 appear on the photo?  [Snip]  How do you do it?

Hi Wendy,

The picture on the NASA site is described in the caption as a time-lapse
sequence.  Typically, shots like these are taken through a very strong
filter (typically an optical density of 5 or so, corresponding to a filter
factor of ~100,000).  To make things interesting, photographers sometimes
take an additional exposure (on the same frame) without a filter, when the
Sun is not in the field of view.  Not sure if there was the typical late
afternoon fog coming in off the ocean that day or not.  If there was, then
the exposure of the water and bridge was probably taken in the late
afternoon, well before the start of the eclipse.

Bill Peifer
Rochester, NY
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Re: Agfa RSX II

2002-06-12 Thread Mishka

bill,
i have shot a few rolls of iso 100 film (120 roll), and liked it very
much. cannot say anything negative about it. in fact, after the first
roll was out, i went back to that store and bought two dozen more, so
now it is what i shoot exclusively. 
oh, yes: it was a few months past expiration date, so i got it on the
cheap. still, nothing negative. color's great, don't know about grain
-- just haven't looked at large enough magnification, but i found
absolutely nothing to complain. 

mishka

 From: Bill Owens 
 Subject: Agfa RSX II 
 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 10:31:09 -0700 
 
 
 
 As most of you know, I'm somewhat of an Agfa fanatic.  In my last 
 order from BH, I had them send me a roll of the RSX II ISO 50.  Has 
 anyone else tried it, and if so, what's your opinion?
 
 Thanks
 Bill
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Re: media philosophy debate

2002-06-12 Thread Pat White

There is no paradox.  Although it's impractical to fully record any event as 
experienced (sight, sound, smell, temperature, cultural connections, emotional 
connections, etc.), an acceptable approximation would be a video or film record (with 
stereo binaural sound) made with a movie camera (digital or film) with a field of view 
matching the angle of view of your eyes (disregarding the binocular/stereo vision 
aspect).  To match the experience of looking around to see the scene in its entirety, 
the camera would be attached to your head or, with a small videocam (lipstick camera), 
attached to your eyeglass frames.  If it ran continuously during the event, and wasn't 
large or weird-looking enough to distract bystanders, you'd have a fair record of the 
event.  If the camera was light enough and quiet enough, it wouldn't intrude on your 
reality.

Photography, however, is quite different, in that it captures an instant selection of 
part of the scene, possibly with a visual or temporal perspective unavailable to naked 
human eyes, and reproduces that selection on a piece of paper or film, possibly with 
altered or reduced (bw) colors.  It may even be a scene that only existed in the 
photographer's mind, his inner reality.  A photograph is not reality, just as a statue 
of a person is not a person, nor is a painting of a person.  Photography is a skill, 
an art, and a craft, and very enjoyable, which is why we're all here.

Pat White
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Re: Eclipse Photo

2002-06-12 Thread smcforme

 You'll notice that the actual image of the sun is completely blown. So no filter 
needed if you don't mind that. As far as eye protection, you could easily compose the 
photo by shielding the sun with your hand in front of the lens. It also appears to be 
a fairly wide angle lens. So if you did get a peak of the sun it would not be much if 
any worse than if you did so without a lens. I probably would hesitate to do so with 
the 400mm however! PLEASE BE CAREFUL WITH YOUR EYES! 
  wendy beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Daniel J. Matyola 
Subject: Eclipse Photo 

There is a great photo of this week's eclipse on today's Astonomy Picture of 
the Day: 

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html 

That is a brilliant photo!
Wish I'd got to see it :-(
There are a couple of good ones in the Spaceweather gallery too
http://science.nasa.gov/spaceweather/eclipses/gallery_10june02.html

One thing that puzzles me; The picture of the day in Daniels's link looks like it was 
taken normally without any filters - otherwise how else would the golden gate bridge 
appear on the photo? I thought that this was an absolute no-no and dangerous to the 
eyes to do this. Obviously I must be mistaken. Also a few of the other photos I have 
seen also appear to have been taken without filters. Are there any solar eclipse 
photographers on the list? How do you do it?

Wendy

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WTB: MX

2002-06-12 Thread E. Kragtwijk

Hello all,

I am looking for a fully functional MX, with or without winder.
Please contact me off list if you have something for sale.

Thanks, Eric
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Re: Eclipse Photo

2002-06-12 Thread William Kane

Well,

   Since the apparent motion of the sun is constant, all the
photographer had to do was take a picture every X minuites.  He took 18
frames (counting the number of suns in the picture), and the eclipse in
San Fransiscio took T time.  All he had to do to find X is simple math: 
T/18 = X

   Calculating exposure must have been tough though . . . he had to
decide what the exposure should be, then divide it up so that all 18
exposures equalled the final exposure he needed.

IL Bill

smcforme wrote:
 
  I wonder what calculations the photographer used to get the nearly pefect spacing 
of each exposure?
   Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a great photo of this 
week's eclipse on today's Astonomy Picture of
 the Day:
 
 http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html
 
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Re[2]: Eclipse Photo

2002-06-12 Thread Bob Walkden

Hi,

I read up on this stuff before the total eclipse of 1999 in
Pasachoff's book, and although I didn't get any decent photos of my
own I did learn a few things. The book includes examples similar to
this one. The moon and the sun move at reasonably constant speeds relative
to the earth, so we know how long it takes for the sun to travel its
own diameter. It's also quite easy to work out the how much of the
frame the sun will occupy for a given focal length. Since the start
and end times of the eclipse are predictable, this information allows
you to calculate when to start shooting, and how long the interval
between exposures needs to be. It also lets you plan in advance
roughly whereabouts in the frame the line of suns will be. That photo
with the Golden Gate bridge must have taken an awful lot of planning
and experience of eclipse photography.

The Cambridge Eclipse Photography Guide by Jay Pasachoff and Michael
Covington is full of information. Unfortunately there are no details
of exlipses after 1999, but the technical photography information is very
comprehensive.

---

 Bob  

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Wednesday, June 12, 2002, 7:44:32 PM, you wrote:

 I wasn't refer to the consistency of the spacing, but the degree of spacing. As in 
how did he/she know how long to make each exposure so that each image of the sun did 
not overlap or be too far
 apart.  
   Paris, Leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An interval timer that took a 
picture every n seconds.

 Len

 I wonder what calculations the photographer used to get the nearly pefect
 spacing of each exposure?
 Daniel J. Matyola wrote: There is a great photo
 of this week's eclipse on today's Astonomy Picture of
 the Day:

 http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html
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Re: Pentax Spare (35mm\67) parts on ebay

2002-06-12 Thread Oliver Raymond

Whoops!

the ebay ID of the seller is is jpd19 - or to go there copy all lines of
the following URL into your browser: including the 'lude...25 bit :)

http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItemsuserid=jpd19
inc
lude=0since=-1sort=3rows=25


Enjoy!

Oliver
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Subject: Re: Pentax Spare (35mm\67) parts on ebay


 Oliver,

 You've got to send along the ebay seller's name.
 The link you supplied only works from your ebay account.

 Regards,  Bob S.

 I found some shop that is closing, and is putting MANY spare parts
(mostly covers and bodies) for 35mm Spotties and also 67 Pentax bodies.  
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Re: Are all Pentax Filters SMC?

2002-06-12 Thread Frantisek Vlcek

Wednesday, June 12, 2002, 3:31:15 PM, Antti-Pekka wrote:
APV At 06:17 12.6.2002 -0700, Jeff wrote:
I'd like to buy a circular polarizing filter, and had
a few questions:

1. BH sells the Pentax Circular Polarizer, but
doesn't specify that it is multi-coated. Does Pentax
sell non-SMC filters?

APV I have a 49mm Pentax Circular Polarized which is
APV not SMC coated. So yes, Pentax makes (or made) them 
APV with and without SMC.

Also the older Pentax filters are not SMC - when it's SMC, it says so.

I think SMC is better than Hoya's HMC or SuperHMC by a bit, but
it still reflects green back on the image if light source is in the
frame. Just slightly less so than HMC, which is already very good in this
regard. Use a ghostless filter for no secondary image of light source
(of course not poss. with polariser). Also, most polarisers are less
prone to flare due to the polarised light, I think. At least it looks
so with my uncoated (or singlecoated) BW top-pol filter shot straight
into the sun - look at www.volny.cz/fotof/scapes/autumn  see drunken
land pic - it's with this filter and 20mm lens.

Good light,
   Frantisek Vlcek
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100mm 2.8 Macro vs. 100mm 2.8

2002-06-12 Thread Bmacrae

Hey gang...

I currently have the M version of the 100mm f2.8. I really enjoy the results 
this lens produces. However, I'm in the market for a macro lens and I want to 
know how the f2.8 100mm Macro does for non-macro/portrait work. Is it as 
sharp or sharper that the m and a series lenses?

Thanks.

Brendan MacRae
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Re: any pdmlers in boston area?

2002-06-12 Thread Jim Fellows

I live in Derry, NH and work in Needham, Ma.

Jim Fellows
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 subj. -- just curious
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Re: 100mm 2.8 Macro vs. 100mm 2.8

2002-06-12 Thread Bob Rapp

Aside from the bulk, the 100 f2.8 macro is a much sharper lens. Macro
requires high correction, low distortion and flatness of field. The end
result is a fantastic general purpose lens.

Bob
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However, I'm in the market for a macro lens and I want to
 know how the f2.8 100mm Macro does for non-macro/portrait work. Is it as
 sharp or sharper that the m and a series lenses?

 Thanks.

 Brendan MacRae
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Re: 100mm 2.8 Macro vs. 100mm 2.8

2002-06-12 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: Brendan MacRae


Subject: 100mm 2.8 Macro vs. 100mm 2.8


 Hey gang...

 I currently have the M version of the 100mm f2.8. I really
enjoy the results
 this lens produces. However, I'm in the market for a macro
lens and I want to
 know how the f2.8 100mm Macro does for non-macro/portrait
work. Is it as
 sharp or sharper that the m and a series lenses?

Are you talking about the A100mm f/2.8 macro or the autofocus
one?
My PUG picture this month is a portrait shot with the A100mm
f/2.8 macro. It's a pretty good portrait lens, actually. Until I
got the 77mm, I hadn't seen a lens with higher resolution and
contrast than the A100mm f/2.8 macro. The 77 may be
sharper/contrastier.

William Robb
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Re: 100mm 2.8 Macro vs. 100mm 2.8

2002-06-12 Thread Mishka

brendan,

one thing for sure: it's a hell of a lot more
(1) heavier
(2) expensive (i'd gess ~$700)
(3) difficult to find
i don't own it, but i used to have m100/2.8 and i'd guess any decent
macro lens would be sharper. 

there are tons of very good used 3rd party macro lenses (i personally
have a pka vivitar ser. 1 100/2.5 -- terrific glass, terrific build,
does 1:1, and $135 is hard to beat; my only complain is that it focuses
the wrong way). unless you are a collector, or have tons of spare
cash and time, i see no reason whatsoever to lust for macro a*100/2.8

mishka

 From: Bmacrae 
 Subject: 100mm 2.8 Macro vs. 100mm 2.8 
 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 14:25:49 -0700 
 
 
 
 Hey gang...
 
 I currently have the M version of the 100mm f2.8. I really enjoy the 
 results this lens produces. However, I'm in the market for a macro 
 lens and I want to know how the f2.8 100mm Macro does for non-
 macro/portrait work. Is it as sharp or sharper that the m and a 
 series lenses?
 
 Thanks.
 
 Brendan MacRae
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Re: film in the fridge?

2002-06-12 Thread CBWaters

This warning would be a tad late for me now since my film often stays in the
camera a week or three...if it's not good to do this with frozen film, I'm
in a heap o trouble...

Cory

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Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: film in the fridge?


 I was told it's paramount to shoot and process freezed film as soon as
 possible after getting it out of the fridge  Is that true :) ?

 Thanks

 Frantisek
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Re: 100mm 2.8 Macro vs. 100mm 2.8

2002-06-12 Thread Shel Belinkoff

Use one ... compare the results to the $135.00 lens.  Then tell us what
you think.  Oh, make a print larger than 4x6 ...

Mishka wrote:

 there are tons of very good used 3rd party macro lenses (i personally
 have a pka vivitar ser. 1 100/2.5 -- terrific glass, terrific build,
 does 1:1, and $135 is hard to beat; my only complain is that it focuses
 the wrong way). unless you are a collector, or have tons of spare
 cash and time, i see no reason whatsoever to lust for macro a*100/2.8


scb
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Mystic Color Lab does BW now Re: Cost of Black and White Film Processing?

2002-06-12 Thread Chris Webster

harald_nancy wrote:
 

 Last time I used black and white, it was less expensive than color.
 Does anyone know a more cost effective lab for bw film processing?
 I'm not planning to develop and print my own bw.

Back on May 21, I received an email from Mystic Color Labs that included this
bit:

 Summer is also a great time to try our new classic black and
 white print service. When you send your true black and white
 film* to Mystic, you’ll get hand-crafted prints with a classic
 white border that will really make your photos stand out! (* Borders
 not available on C-41 Black  White film)

The email included a savings certificate good for $1.50 off each roll, good
until July 1.  Alas, I can't find their BW processing price on their website
(http://www.mysticcolorlab.com/), but they do list this item for $11.95:

 #F036 1 Roll Agfa Classic Black and White Film
 and 1 Pre-Paid Processing Mailer... $11.95

I don't know what size prints you get, but the $11.95 for a roll+processing is
a lot less than the processing-only prices other posters have quoted.

I've never used mystic for BW, but I'm quite happy with the occasional print
roll they process for me.  (90% of my work are slides processed by Kodalux.)

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Re: The elusive K 35mm f3.5

2002-06-12 Thread Juan J. Buhler

On Wed, 12 Jun 2002, smcforme wrote:

  I have been casually looking out for a SMC 35/3.5 in K-mount for
 months, and have not seen hide nor hair of it. I bought one in
 M42, and have seen 3 others for really decent prices. But in
 K-mount this thing must be fairly rare. Same story for the SMC
 85/1.8. I just bought one of those in M42 as well. I was intending
 to start assembling a K-mount kit, but it would appear I'm getting
 pretty entrenched in the screw mount stuff.

A while ago I saw one of these in a shop in San Luis Obispo, CA. I
don't remember the name of the shop, but it's the one on the main
street (I think it's Higuera St?). Anyway, it would be a matter of
making a couple of calls to find out whether the lens is still
there...

j


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Re: 100mm 2.8 Macro vs. 100mm 2.8

2002-06-12 Thread Mishka

Bob,
The pictures are gorgeous. But that shows how good the photographer is.
At this resolution it tells next to nothing about the lens (except that
it focuses really close :) 
But then again, for $300 (as was the target price), I would be
tempted...

Mishka

 From: Rfsindg 
 Subject: Re: 100mm 2.8 Macro vs. 100mm 2.8 
 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 17:34:48 -0700 
 
 
 
  From: Mishka
  unless you are a collector, or have tons of spare cash
  and time, i see no reason whatsoever to lust for macro a*100/2.8 
 
  William Robb replied:
  Obviously, you have never used one..g
 
 Bill,
 
 I looked at my PUG contributions... Lots with the A100/2.8 Macro.
 http://pug.komkon.org/01sep/Stail.html
 http://pug.komkon.org/01jul/bfly36.html
 http://pug.komkon.org/01jan/pointsettia.html
 http://pug.komkon.org/00sep/00sept/diamond.html
 http://pug.komkon.org/00marc/tulipb.html
 This is truly one of my favorite lenses.
 
 Regards,  Bob S.
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Re: Two IR samples on my site

2002-06-12 Thread smcforme

I actually like the effect of the sratches on Moon and Stars.
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Re: Are all Pentax Filters SMC?

2002-06-12 Thread Paul Jones

Did the ghostless filters come in any sizes except for 49mm? all the ones
i've seen are 49mm.


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From: Frantisek Vlcek [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Antti-Pekka Virjonen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:16 AM
Subject: Re: Are all Pentax Filters SMC?


 Wednesday, June 12, 2002, 3:31:15 PM, Antti-Pekka wrote:
 APV At 06:17 12.6.2002 -0700, Jeff wrote:
 I'd like to buy a circular polarizing filter, and had
 a few questions:
 
 1. BH sells the Pentax Circular Polarizer, but
 doesn't specify that it is multi-coated. Does Pentax
 sell non-SMC filters?

 APV I have a 49mm Pentax Circular Polarized which is
 APV not SMC coated. So yes, Pentax makes (or made) them
 APV with and without SMC.

 Also the older Pentax filters are not SMC - when it's SMC, it says so.

 I think SMC is better than Hoya's HMC or SuperHMC by a bit, but
 it still reflects green back on the image if light source is in the
 frame. Just slightly less so than HMC, which is already very good in this
 regard. Use a ghostless filter for no secondary image of light source
 (of course not poss. with polariser). Also, most polarisers are less
 prone to flare due to the polarised light, I think. At least it looks
 so with my uncoated (or singlecoated) BW top-pol filter shot straight
 into the sun - look at www.volny.cz/fotof/scapes/autumn  see drunken
 land pic - it's with this filter and 20mm lens.

 Good light,
Frantisek Vlcek
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Re: APS Film

2002-06-12 Thread wendy beard

At 15:41 12-6-2002 -0400, you wrote:
Wednesday, June 12, 2002, 9:46:27 AM, you wrote:

BJ Just wondering what the general consciences is on APS film format.

BJ A few years ago, it was introduced with great fan fare as the next
BJ revolution in film. Doesn't seem to have made much of an impact and it is
BJ not that easy to get at times. In its defense, I purchased a Canon 
ELPH Jr.
BJ a while back and it uses the APS system and I am impressed. The ELPH is
BJ small enough that it can fit into a shirt pocket and the results from the
BJ APS are not bad... I like the multiple formats.

BJ From what I hear, there have not been any new APS cameras introduced 
lately
BJ so I am wondering what its future is.

BJ Cheers,
BJ John

BJ Nova Scotia
BJ Canada

A year or three back I bought a Canon Ixus (Elph?) in APS because of the 
small size and gorgeous looks.
When the Digital Ixus came out I bought that because I loved the size and 
the design of it.
I have since sold the APS Ixus (while I could still get some money for it!)
The appeal of the small size of the APS cameras is there, it has just been 
superceded by digital. Once the digital Ixus came out, I had no more need 
for the APS as they both served the same purpose. My feeling is that a lot 
of other people will be thinking the same.

Wendy

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Re: 100mm 2.8 Macro vs. 100mm 2.8

2002-06-12 Thread Mark Roberts

Mishka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Bob,
The pictures are gorgeous. But that shows how good the photographer is.
At this resolution it tells next to nothing about the lens (except that
it focuses really close :) 
But then again, for $300 (as was the target price), I would be
tempted...

I bought my SMC-F 100/2.8 macro from KEH for $269.00
It was listed as bargain condition because a tiny hole had been drilled
through the filter ring, presumably to mount a ring flash. Filters still screw
on and off just fine.

The F version, by the way, is identical to the FA version except for cosmetics
and the replacement of the focus limit switch with a focus friction control.

-- 
Mark Roberts
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Re: any pdmlers in boston area?

2002-06-12 Thread Jeffrey Sciortino

Cantabridgian myself.

-Jeff

--- John Mullan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 12 Jun 2002 18:07:37 -0400, Jim Fellows
 wrote:
 
 I live in Derry, NH and work in Needham, Ma.
 
 Jim Fellows
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 Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 12:56 PM
 Subject: any pdmlers in boston area?
 
 
  subj. -- just curious
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Can you read German?

2002-06-12 Thread Paul Jones

Hi,

Are there any listers who read german that i could send a couple of lines of
german text to, so they could tell what it means?

The online translators are making a mess of it.

Please contact me offlist at
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Re: 100mm 2.8 Macro vs. 100mm 2.8

2002-06-12 Thread Paul F. Stregevsky

Mishka wrote: According to photodo.com the MTF ratings are
Grade: 4.6 35mm/MF Tokina AT-X 90/2,5 macro
Grade: 3.9 35mm/AF Pentax SMC-FA Makro 100/2,8
Grade: 4.3 35mm/AF Pentax SMC-F 100/2,8 macro
Grade: 4 35mm/MF Vivitar 105/2,5 Macro Series 1
so, yes, pentax has a lens that is a tad better than Vivitar. and still
behind Tokina.

Actually, the Tokina AT-X 90/2.5 is the same as the Vivitar 90/2.5 Macro 
(1:2). That Vivitar, as has been stated here before, boasted the highest 
resolution score in Popular Photography's tests for many years.

I agree with Mishka entirely on this one. I have several quotes from Nikon 
users who say the Vivitar/Kiron 105 macro is as sharp as the Nikon; one 
sold his Nikon, seeing no point in keeping it. In a blind comparison, I 
doubt the Pentax would consistently be picked over the third-party macros 
as the winner. But then, I sold my SMC 28/2K and kept my Vivitar 28/1.9; 
sold my Pentax 50/1.4A and 50/1.2A and kept my Rikenon 50/2. For a 
photographer like me, who shoots primarily at ISO 400 and higher, ultimate 
sharpness isn't everything; I'll take sharp enough + great color (Vivitar 
28/1.9) or fidelity (Rikenon, which happens to be sharper than the Pentaxes 
from f/2 to f/4.5).


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Re: 100mm 2.8 Macro vs. 100mm 2.8

2002-06-12 Thread Rfsindg

Mishka,

I agree about the resolution.  You can't tell much over the internet.

Still, I was surprised at how many of my PUG shots were with the macro.
I believe that I chose these photos because the slides were special.
They were exceptionally sharp, and drew my attention.

...And some of us bought this lens a long time ago, close to your price.

Regards,  Bob S.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Bob,
 The pictures are gorgeous. But that shows how good the photographer is.
 At this resolution it tells next to nothing about the lens (except that
 it focuses really close :) 
 But then again, for $300 (as was the target price), I would be
 tempted...
 
 Mishka
 
  From: Rfsindg 
  Subject: Re: 100mm 2.8 Macro vs. 100mm 2.8 
  Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 17:34:48 -0700 
  
  
  
   From: Mishka
   unless you are a collector, or have tons of spare cash
   and time, i see no reason whatsoever to lust for macro a*100/2.8 
  
   William Robb replied:
   Obviously, you have never used one..g
  
  Bill,
  
  I looked at my PUG contributions... Lots with the A100/2.8 Macro.
  http://pug.komkon.org/01sep/Stail.html
  http://pug.komkon.org/01jul/bfly36.html
  http://pug.komkon.org/01jan/pointsettia.html
  http://pug.komkon.org/00sep/00sept/diamond.html
  http://pug.komkon.org/00marc/tulipb.html
  This is truly one of my favorite lenses.
  
  Regards,  Bob S. 
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Re: 200/2.5K deal at Adorama

2002-06-12 Thread Pentxuser

I bought this lens several years ago and really enjoy it. One of the real 
joys of the lens I found was that it had a beautifully finished aluminum 
tripod mount custom-made for the lens. It really adds to the value and the 
usefulness of the lens..
Vic 


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Having had the good fortune recently to stumble upon, and acquire, this
lens, I'd suggest that it's one sweet piece of glass.  It's a wonderful
focal range, not too big and not too small, so it handles well.  I'll be
getting the first roll of film back from the lab in a few days so I
might be able to comment on the color aspects of it, but tonight I
developed a roll of D 100, the last few frames taken with this lens. 
Very nice, sharp negatives.
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Re: The elusive K 35mm f3.5

2002-06-12 Thread Pentxuser

I stumbled across mine at a local camera shop several years ago. I think I 
paid 35-40 Cdn. About $20 American. And it's mint...
Good luck in your search...
In a message dated 6/12/02 3:17:17 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 I have been casually looking out for a SMC 35/3.5 in K-mount for months, 
and have not seen hide nor hair of it. I bought one in M42, and have seen 3 
others for really decent prices. But in K-mount this thing must be fairly 
rare. Same story for the SMC 85/1.8. I just bought one of those in M42 as 
well. I was intending to start assembling a K-mount kit, but it would appear 
I'm getting pretty entrenched in the screw mount stuff. 
Oh well, long live Spotmatics I guess.
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Re: Pentax Shop on Narita Airport

2002-06-12 Thread Stan Halpin

On my two passes through Narita, I was able to find Pentax gear in the duty
free shops. As Peter says, not much for serious Pentaxers. Also, the prices
are a bit higher than U.S. retail, about 40% over BH on the few items I
looked at closely.

Stan

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 12:42:26 EDT
 Subject: Re: Pentax Shop on Narita Airport
 
 In a message dated 12/06/02 17:18:08 GMT Daylight Time, Bernd writes:
 
  Hi all,
 
 during a flight to Asia next way, I have a 3 hour stay at Tokyo Airport. Is
 there a possibilty to buy Pentax stuff in one of the Airport shops? I am
 looking for Limited lenses, especially the black ones which are not
 available in Europe. 
 
 No. In a word. You might be able to buy the digibinos, though. The Airport
 shop stocks next to nothing for serious Pentaxers. In 3 hours you cannot get
 to central Tokyo and back, unless you are extremely lucky.
 
 Kind regards from sunny Brighton
 
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Re: 100mm 2.8 Macro vs. 100mm 2.8

2002-06-12 Thread Pentxuser

Little bit of a cheap shot here. I'm with Mishka. A Vivitar or Tokina is 
going to give you just as good results as the Pentax. The feel might be 
different but the end result is not. The vivitar Series One, Tokina ATX and 
the Kiron 105mm macros were all excellent lenses in their day and they still 
are today. Macro lenses are so good that most films don't do them justice. 
Guys, I love Pentax lenses too but there are plenty of other lenses that are 
just as good - some even better. Theses other lenses  just don't hold their 
value the way the big name camera lenses do so they are always a better deal, 
unless you want to sell them.
Vic 

In a message dated 6/12/02 5:30:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Use one ... compare the results to the $135.00 lens.  Then tell us what
you think.  Oh, make a print larger than 4x6 ...

Mishka wrote:
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Re: APS Film

2002-06-12 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: wendy beard
Subject: Re: APS Film



 A year or three back I bought a Canon Ixus (Elph?) in APS
because of the
 small size and gorgeous looks.
 When the Digital Ixus came out I bought that because I loved
the size and
 the design of it.
 I have since sold the APS Ixus (while I could still get some
money for it!)
 The appeal of the small size of the APS cameras is there, it
has just been
 superceded by digital. Once the digital Ixus came out, I had
no more need
 for the APS as they both served the same purpose. My feeling
is that a lot
 of other people will be thinking the same.

I really do agree with this (laitm). The APS target market is
the same one that is attracted to digital, and for that market,
digital is more appealing than film.
I give APS 5 years at most, until all industry support for it
ceases.

William Robb
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Re: Are all Pentax Filters SMC?

2002-06-12 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: Paul Jones
Subject: Re: Are all Pentax Filters SMC?


 Did the ghostless filters come in any sizes except for 49mm?
all the ones
 i've seen are 49mm.

I recall asking this a while back. I am pretty sure the answer
was only 49mm.

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Re: 100mm 2.8 Macro vs. 100mm 2.8

2002-06-12 Thread Pentxuser

I'm with you Paul. I have both the Pentax 100mm F4 macro and the Tokina ATX 
90 F2.5. Both are excellent lenses but the Tokina gets more use primarily for 
its speed. 
Vic 


In a message dated 6/12/02 9:18:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Actually, the Tokina AT-X 90/2.5 is the same as the Vivitar 90/2.5 Macro 
(1:2). That Vivitar, as has been stated here before, boasted the highest 
resolution score in Popular Photography's tests for many years.

I agree with Mishka entirely on this one. I have several quotes from Nikon 
users who say the Vivitar/Kiron 105 macro is as sharp as the Nikon; one 
sold his Nikon, seeing no point in keeping it. In a blind comparison, I 
doubt the Pentax would consistently be picked over the third-party macros 
as the winner. But then, I sold my SMC 28/2K and kept my Vivitar 28/1.9; 
sold my Pentax 50/1.4A and 50/1.2A and kept my Rikenon 50/2. For a 
photographer like me, who shoots primarily at ISO 400 and higher, ultimate 
sharpness isn't everything; I'll take sharp enough + great color (Vivitar 
28/1.9) or fidelity (Rikenon, which happens to be sharper than the Pentaxes 
from f/2 to f/4.5).
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Re: 100mm 2.8 Macro vs. 100mm 2.8

2002-06-12 Thread Pentxuser

Bob: I think there are lots of reasons photographers gravitate to one or two 
lenses. It's not necessarily that the lens is better than the other lenses in 
their arsenal, it's often because they feel comfortable with that lens. A 100 
F2.8 is a great lens whether it's a macro or not. I'll bet you like its feel, 
it's speed and the sharpness of the pictures keep you coming back to it.  


In a message dated 6/12/02 9:25:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Mishka,

I agree about the resolution.  You can't tell much over the internet.

Still, I was surprised at how many of my PUG shots were with the macro.
I believe that I chose these photos because the slides were special.
They were exceptionally sharp, and drew my attention.

...And some of us bought this lens a long time ago, close to your price.

Regards,  Bob S.
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FS:SMC-M 150/3.5

2002-06-12 Thread smcforme

I have a Pentax M 150mm F3.5 SMC lens that I would like to sell. It is beautiful 
condition. I can confidently say rate it as EX+. Even the inspection sticker looks 
good. The coating on this lens is amazing as expected. I'd like $145.00. If you're 
interested I can E-mail you a some pics tomorrow.

Thanks!

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Re: FS:SMC-M 150/3.5

2002-06-12 Thread smcforme

Uh... I've got to start proof reading my messages. Sorry to anyone who had to wade 
through the grammer of my last message! 
  smcforme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Pentax M 150mm F3.5 SMC lens that I 
would like to sell. It is beautiful condition. I can confidently say rate it as EX+. 
Even the inspection sticker looks good. The coating on this lens is amazing as 
expected. I'd like $145.00. If you're interested I can E-mail you a some pics tomorrow.

Thanks!

Marcus
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anyone knows about this lens?

2002-06-12 Thread Mishka

Revuenon 55mm 1.2 lens, from description:

 This lens was made in Japan, most likely at the glass foundry of
Tomioka that has also produced high-quality lenses for Yashica, Contax
and Chinon. It was sold in Germany by the photo retail chain of Photo
Quelle under their brand name Revuenon. 
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Re: MLU trick: SP-F?

2002-06-12 Thread Bmacrae

can't get mine to do it


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Re: FS:SMC-M 150/3.5

2002-06-12 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: smcforme
Subject: FS:SMC-M 150/3.5


 I have a Pentax M 150mm F3.5 SMC lens that I would like to
sell. It is beautiful condition. I can confidently say rate it
as EX+. Even the inspection sticker looks good. The coating on
this lens is amazing as expected. I'd like $145.00. If you're
interested I can E-mail you a some pics tomorrow.

FWIW, I've said it before, and I will say it again, this is one
hell of a nice little lens.

William Robb
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Re: 100mm 2.8 Macro vs. 100mm 2.8

2002-06-12 Thread William Robb

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: 100mm 2.8 Macro vs. 100mm 2.8


 Little bit of a cheap shot here. I'm with Mishka. A Vivitar or
Tokina is
 going to give you just as good results as the Pentax. The feel
might be
 different but the end result is not. The vivitar Series One,
Tokina ATX and
 the Kiron 105mm macros were all excellent lenses in their day
and they still
 are today. Macro lenses are so good that most films don't do
them justice.
 Guys, I love Pentax lenses too but there are plenty of other
lenses that are
 just as good - some even better. Theses other lenses  just
don't hold their
 value the way the big name camera lenses do so they are always
a better deal,
 unless you want to sell them.
 Vic

Hell Vic, take a few more cheap shots!! Thats OK.
The end result is different. The bokeh of the A 100mm f/2.8 is
friggin amazing. I had one of those Vivitar 90mm f/2.5 macro
lenses that went 1:1 with no extenders. Reputed to be a fine
lens. I thought it was, to.
Problem was, it had sucky bokeh. So much for art!!.
Add to that the feel of the Pentax lens and the A 100mm f/2.8
macro is unbeatable.
BTW, Photodo has proven themselves time and again to have worse
that useless lens tests.
They fall into the sky is pink, I read it on the internet
category.

William Robb
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Re: MLU trick: SP-F?

2002-06-12 Thread Ken Archer

Mine just did it three times in a row. 

On Wednesday 12 June 2002 11:34 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 can't get mine to do it
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Pentax-A 20mm f2.8...ohhh, ahhh

2002-06-12 Thread Bmacrae

Well, I lucked out. My b-day present came today and this one is no 
paperweight!

My source rated this one an 8+...it's more like a 9+! Almost perfect...what a 
gem.

I'm thrilled. I saw that Richard Tillis was selling one for $549 not long 
ago. Mine was only $269 plus shipping.

I love wides. Can't wait to shoot with this bad boy.

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Re: Pentax-A 20mm f2.8...ohhh, ahhh

2002-06-12 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: Brendan MacRae

Subject: Pentax-A 20mm f2.8...ohhh, ahhh


 Well, I lucked out. My b-day present came today and this one
is no
 paperweight!

Welcome to the Brotherhood of the Glass...

Brother William
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165 Leaf Shutter lens

2002-06-12 Thread Bruce Dayton

Just got back from shooting a family portrait.  Outdoors in somewhat
shady surroundings.  I debated between the 90 or 165 leaf shutter so I
could do some fill flash.  I ended up using only the 165 for 5 rolls
(50 frames).  I can say that after working some with the 90 and now
the 165, that the 165 design is much more foolproof.  Having the
shutter stay closed after the shot is a surefire reminder to cock the
leaf for the next frame.  On the 90, I tend to forget once in awhile.
Also, sometimes my thumb hits the U/S switch on the bottom of the
lens, causing it not to fire when I press the shutter release.  Much
more fiddley.

I'm hoping things turn out well with it.


 Bruce
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wasn't with my Pentax though!

2002-06-12 Thread Tiger Moses

Got second place!
http://www.fotoforum.com/assignwinner.html
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Agfa Portrait 160

2002-06-12 Thread Bruce Dayton

I just got back some rolls shot at my daughter's 8th grade graduation.
All in all, I shot 1 roll of Kodak Portra 800, 2 rolls of Agfa
Portrait 160, 1 roll of Fuji NHG II and one 220 roll of Konica
Portrait 160.  I shot this variety due to changing light conditions
and wanting to test the Agfa and Konica portrait films.

I was somewhat surprised to see that the Agfa portrait roll shot
indoors with flash showed major shine on all faces.  No blown out
highlights, more like shiny makeup that really showed up.  One shot
had a guy in it that had no makeup on and he still had some shiny
areas.  I have been shooting lots of Kodak Portra and some Fuji
portrait films and have not really seen this. The outdoor fillflash
Agfa looked fine, just this indoor roll where flash was the main light
looked bad.

Has anyone else heard of or experienced this with Agfa Portrait
before?  I still have a couple of rolls to test with.


 Bruce
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Re: Pentax Spare (35mm\67) parts on ebay

2002-06-12 Thread Joseph McAllister

on 07/10/02 13:01, Oliver Raymond shared with me:

 Whoops!
 
 the ebay ID of the seller is is jpd19 - or to go there copy all lines of
 the following URL into your browser: including the 'lude...25 bit :)
 
 http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItemsuserid=jpd19
 inc
 lude=0since=-1sort=3rows=25
 
 
 Enjoy!
 
 Oliver

Except that he/she has nothing for sale at this time, eh? What happened
there?


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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 12:44 PM
 Subject: Re: Pentax Spare (35mm\67) parts on ebay
 
 
 Oliver,
 
 You've got to send along the ebay seller's name.
 The link you supplied only works from your ebay account.
 
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
 I found some shop that is closing, and is putting MANY spare parts
 (mostly covers and bodies) for 35mm Spotties and also 67 Pentax bodies.  
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JoMac, Pentaxian
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