Re: help - mailbox full
I agree, Gmail is great for this sort of thing. I subscribed in January and I am currently using 171MB (6%) of my 2656MB limit. Once a month I download the messages onto my PC. Interesting address you have there Glen :-) Dave On 10/22/05, Glenn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I now use gmail for my PDML reading. This list has produced about 80MB of mail since July, but the gmail limit has increased about 400MB in that same time. Glenn
RE: Wildlife Photographer of the Year
Thanks for posting this, Bill. Great stuff! Regards Jens -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: william sawyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 22. oktober 2005 01:28 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Wildlife Photographer of the Year For the nature shooters of the PDML, it opened this weekend. http://www.nhm.ac.uk/wildphoto/ Bill Sawyer Livonia, MI
RE: Tamron P/KA on Pentax D cameras
I guess they won't. I believe there must be the red AE above the highest aperture on the lens, in order to work like am A-lens with an adaptall-2 adapter. Regards Jens Jens Bladt Arkitekt MAA http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Andre Langevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 21. oktober 2005 20:59 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: Tamron P/KA on Pentax D cameras An Adaptall 2 mount lens works like an A lens - - if it is an A (or later) lens ... Fred You mean that Tamron lenses made before, say, 1984, won't act like an A lens with the P-KA adapter? Andre
Re: What Causes This?
It was an exposure made in March when Shel used Bruce Dayton's D for a bit. Godfrey On Oct 21, 2005, at 5:36 PM, Herb Chong wrote: Shel doesn't have a *istD. Herb - Original Message - From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 8:29 PM Subject: Re: What Causes This? Most of the images contained no banding however a few did and those I suspect were the ones that were shot with the LED just out of the feild of capture. What I did determine from the somewhat haphazard test is that the power system in the *ist D at least is very stable and I would suggest is not the source of banding. Banding happens in rows and seems to be a read-out flaw which could be noise/power related or potentially due to the latent photosensitivity of row electronics on the sensor.
Re: Small Pentax K lens test
On Oct 21, 2005, at 9:17 PM, Jarek Dabrowski wrote: 5) the 18-55 is not a bad performer; it just isn't quite as good as the others. Well, I think it can easily compete with 20-35/4, nobody is inspecting photos at 100%. It is maybe a bit worse than 20-35, but for sure not 4 times worse as the price is :) There are reasons I don't like the DA18-55: - slow at nearly any focal length greater than 20mm ... It's at f/4.5 most of the time. - very slow at 55mm (f/5.6). - low contrast wide open. - rendering quality in OOF is pretty bad. The last is the killer for me. The 20-35 is a wonderful lens, with excellent rendering, and is contrasty even wide open: easy to focus manually. For me it is worth the money ... it's my most-used lens. Godfrey
PAW: Appleblossom - and apples for Boris Liberman
After havning posted a PAW called Appleblossom (May 10th 2004) I promised Boris Liberman to post, a picture of the apples. Well, better late than never. Here is a card I made for a college's birthday - showing both the old Appleblossom shot (SONY DSC F717) as well as the apples of the very same tree: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/54782804/ Regards Jens Boris wrote: Jens, now that you wrote it is from *your* garden - you would have to post the picture of an apple when you have some... g The bokeh is rather unobtrusive... Interesting... JB Just a flower on a tree - Appleblossom. JB SONY DSC F717, f8, 1/125 sec. (0.3 minus correction), a tripod and a little JB rain. JB http://gallery46369.fotopic.net/p4389319.html JB All the best JB Jens Bladt JB mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] JB http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt Boris ([EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Appleblossom - and apples for Boris Liberman
Both pictures are beautiful! And those apples look delicious! Heidi - Original Message - From: Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 12:17 AM Subject: PAW: Appleblossom - and apples for Boris Liberman After havning posted a PAW called Appleblossom (May 10th 2004) I promised Boris Liberman to post, a picture of the apples. Well, better late than never. Here is a card I made for a college's birthday - showing both the old Appleblossom shot (SONY DSC F717) as well as the apples of the very same tree: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/54782804/ Regards Jens Boris wrote: Jens, now that you wrote it is from *your* garden - you would have to post the picture of an apple when you have some... g The bokeh is rather unobtrusive... Interesting... JB Just a flower on a tree - Appleblossom. JB SONY DSC F717, f8, 1/125 sec. (0.3 minus correction), a tripod and a little JB rain. JB http://gallery46369.fotopic.net/p4389319.html JB All the best JB Jens Bladt JB mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] JB http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt Boris ([EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Beginner's photo software for Ma
On 21/10/05, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: iPhoto GGHHh My sentiments exactly. Unfortunately, it's all anyone's been able to suggest so far. What do you see as its shortcomings? (I bare in mind that you're both PC users). Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO - Fallen Leaf
On 21/10/05, Glen, discombobulated, unleashed: Okay, this is starting to confuse me slightly. What is so digital about the essence of this image? The fact that it was manipulated to achieve the mono/colour effect. This could have actually been shot on film for all I know. (That is, if Shel hadn't told us otherwise.) True. It's still a style that I consider passe. I like the composition. I like the colors. I don't find any fault with this image at all. Fine. Are you sure that you aren't engaging in just a wee bit of anti-digital snobbery, especially since Shel mentioned the use of Photoshop? Me - - anti-digital snob?? LOL I've noticed that some people on this list seem to cringe at the mention of that program. Many of these same people probably admire the works of famous photographers who made their own meticulously prepared BW prints. I use PS constantly. I also admire many other photogs, including those mentioned above. If one understands the amount of manipulation that often went into much of the traditional classic BW printing, how could they look down on Photoshop? Agreed. That program does the same sorts of tricks that people have done in darkrooms for many, many years. There really isn't too much that can be done in Photoshop, which can't be done the old fashioned way. Agreed. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO - Fallen Leaf
On 22/10/05, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: On 21/10/05, Glen, discombobulated, unleashed: Okay, this is starting to confuse me slightly. What is so digital about the essence of this image? The fact that it was manipulated to achieve the mono/colour effect. I should say that (of course) I have no knowledge of how the image was manipulated. It could be wet printed and hand coloured for all I know. Shel mentioned he was in the digital doldrums, and I assume he put the image up as either an illustration of how he was stuck, or finding a way out of being stuck. Either way, technically it's up to Shel's usual excellent standard, but as a type of genre, I find mono/colour patterns like this - a sort of minimalist mosaic, if you like - of no interest. But that's my personal preference. I don't normally comment on a pic if I don't like it, usually pass on. However, I know Shel will glean something from it, and if nothing else will stir him into making a stew while he cogitates ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Self Portrait?
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: keith_w Subject: Re: Self Portrait? Neither of the BMW's that I have owned handled especially well in the wet Obviously ~ wrong tires... I'm not sure if I can blame the equipment. I have a bad habit of overdriving the conditions. Of course, anyone *can* outdrive his vehicle and the road conditions, if he's either inattentive or foolhardy. Or both. Driving at 9/10ths or more of the car's capability requires truly exceptional attention and skill, which the greatest bulk of drivers simply don't have, and will not devote the time to develop... And, some (95% or more?) don't have the reaction time and reflexes necessary. Not meant to be a put down, just a recognition of the facts But, I tried both Contis and Michelins on both. Neither would keep the vehicle on the road the way I tended to drive at the time. Glad to hear that sentence in the past tense... ;-) William (Shut up and Buckle up) Robb _Do_ take care of yourself! keith
Re: Pentax DSLR future
On Oct 22, 2005, at 1:51 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: I like design B I hate them all. Where's the new 67? - Brother Dave
Re: Pentax DSLR future
On Oct 22, 2005, at 10:01 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote: So, do you truly expect that most photographers worldwide will turn into car advertising photographers wanting digital MF??? I'll shoot anything if there are skimpily-dressed models involved. - Dave
OT: PhotoVista 3.5 vs. PTAssembler
Take a look at the very diffent paniramas I made from the exact same 12 shots: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/54801567/ To me, the one made in PTA seem to be mopr consitant with the real world as I remeber it. All the best Jens Bladt A
Re: PESO - Fallen Leaf
On Oct 22, 2005, at 11:43 AM, Cotty wrote: If I ever reach the photo-doldrums, I pull out one of my Jeanloup Sieff books and rifle through it for an hour, and I am cured. That doesn't happen so often now. I just read On Being a Photographer as recommended by several people here recently. What a fantastic book. I've had a bit of a photographic dry spell for a while, and lately I'm becoming keen to get out with the cameras again. It figures really, because I have no money now. Oh no, now I'm starting to get ideas for a project... - Dave
Re: More Texas Photo Issues
If you want to be rightly proud of calling people names, well, that's your choice... Friday, October 21, 2005, 9:18:17 PM, P. wrote: PJA Only you. Well then, enjoy calling me names. Namecalling from the likes of you, it's a praise! Frantisek
Re: Self serve PESO type PUG?
MS I never see all the peso's or paws because of the overall volume of mail to MS sort thru and follow up posts often don't contain the original link. If the Hi Mark, if your email client supports it, you might either set a filter or prefferably a virtual folder with rules like this: all with subject PAW/PESO (GESO,...) -- all without Re: Sv: in subject (that keeps out the other people comments, only showing original photographers' PAW/PESO posts) or even a second virtual folder for PAWs only from your favourite photographers here. I just set this up today, and it looks like I will be able to keep up again with the messages ;-) Good light! fra
Re: Pentax DSLR future
On Friday, October 21, 2005, at 07:37 PM, William Robb wrote: But they did prototype a very advanced medium format SLR in the late 80s. . FWIW, Konica also took a medium format SLR system well past the prototype stage and almost put it into production. This was in the 70s. I did not know that. Thanks Bob. You are welcome. I'm the one to come to for obscure and useless photographic trivia! Bob
Re: Self Portrait?
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005, William Robb wrote: Neither of the BMW's that I have owned handled especially well in the wet Obviously ~ wrong tires... I'm not sure if I can blame the equipment. I have a bad habit of overdriving the conditions. But, I tried both Contis and Michelins on both. Neither would keep the vehicle on the road the way I tended to drive at the time. Yep, Keith's right; tyre/tire choice is critical. Over the last decade I've tried several makes on my E30s Michelins - arg, like driving on grease Continentals - average and expensive Pirelli P6-somethings - not bad, would have them again GoodYear Eagles - current fave Of course tread patterns and rubber compunds in North America might bear no relation to those in Europe, which I am sure are designed more for wet, curvy roads? Ditto the car suspension? Also bear in mind BMW's are meant to be a bit tail-happy because they're all about the driver being in charge, not the car :-) William (Shut up and Buckle up) Robb Mind how you go, Chris
Re: Beginner's photo software for Mac
That's true. As I discussed with you once before, it's not a good tool with which to prepare images for sending to a lab. Although anyone with common sense can copy a jpeg image from iphoto to a CD without the trappings of the software. It is fine for a beginner who just wants to make albums and slide shows, while e-mailing an occasional jpeg to a friend. It does a lot of the things it does to simplify tasks like making nice slide shows with music. Paul On Oct 21, 2005, at 10:55 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Tim Sherburne Subject: Re: Beginner's photo software for Mac iPhoto GGHHh My sentiments exactly. Unfortunately, it's all anyone's been able to suggest so far. I guess one man's floor is another man's ceiling. Here is what I know about iPhoto. Take it for the little it is worth. It puts data too many directories deep into a CD for my comfort. I've seen it put stuff 5-7 directories off the root. It changes filenames, seemingly at random. It puts image files in multiple directories for no apparent reason, and duplicates filenames in those directories. If you have to cross platform to a Windows system, it is not a pretty sight. William Robb
Re: Self Portrait?
True enough of the classic Bimmers. Contemporary BMWs with stability control and traction control do fine. That's pretty much true of any rear driver. Without an extremely talented driver or an equally talented computer, they can be a handful in the rain. That being said, I drove a 340 horsepower Chrysler 300C in the rain on Chrysler's test track up in Auburn Hills. It has a stability control system based on the Mercedes electronics. Try as I might, I couldn't get it to stumble even on wet pavement with the pedal to the metal. With the system switched off, keeping it on the straight and narrow required a very delicate touch, and I found I couldn't equal the performance of the electronics using just my brain and my foot. Paul On Oct 21, 2005, at 10:57 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: David Savage Subject: PESO: Self Portrait? http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_013.htm I kinda' stuffed up when I took the shot. It could fixed in PS but I don't want to g Comments yes, no or otherwise are always appreciated. Neither of the BMW's that I have owned handled especially well in the wet William Robb
Re: Beginner's photo software for Mac
Well, that pretty much rules it out then g. On Oct 21, 2005, at 11:31 PM, Tim Sherburne wrote: You'll have to wait until we're both sober... :) On 10/21/05 20:28, William Robb wrote: We might talk more when I'm sober (if, I suppose is more accurate). William Robb
Re: PhotoVista 3.5 vs. PTAssembler
i find PTAssembler wildly unpredictable about things that are supposed to be straight, like horizons, and terrible at blending. i can always find the blend line between each frame. PhotoVista is the best of what i have tried, and i have tried at least a dozen, commercial or otherwise. Panorama Maker and Stitcher Express are second best. i can't remember what Panorama Factory does, but i know that i never bought a copy after trying the demo. VR Toolbox does OK, but it never worked reliably for me, crashing occasionally. it did produce QTVR files properly though, which used to matter to me, but not much anymore. Ulead 360 uses much too small a part of the screen area and provided no zoom capability, so it was next to impossible to effectively override the automatic stitching. none of the Panorama Tools derived software blends well enough for me so i gave up on all of them, even if they can detect and correct distortion the best. PhotoVista 3.5 is the best tool i have so far except for two things - no 16-bit support, and limited output file formats. i'm going to try Panorama Maker again because they announced 16-bit support and output of layered Photoshop files in their newest version. Herb - Original Message - From: Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 5:35 AM Subject: OT: PhotoVista 3.5 vs. PTAssembler Take a look at the very diffent paniramas I made from the exact same 12 shots: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/54801567/ To me, the one made in PTA seem to be mopr consitant with the real world as I remeber it.
Re: Pentax DSLR future
Most heavy user pros have already made their digital choices and sold off what they had to in order to achieve them. However, there is a large supply of Pentax 645 glass out there. As I said before, if the camera is priced to appeal to advanced amateurs and small budget pros (wedding photogs, nature shooters and magazine PJs for example), it might do very well. If it comes in at 10K, as some here have predicted, it doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of succeeding. Paul On Oct 21, 2005, at 11:39 PM, Gonz wrote: Pål Jensen wrote: Dario wrote: Today, digital FF is more than enough for at least 99% of the pro market. For that reason I think of digital MF as a niche. But these kind of arguments are absurd! It they made any kind of sense we would still be driving Ford model T's. Kodachrome was good enough for 99% of all 35mm outdoor shooters but still virtually all of them switched to Velvia because it was better. The fact is that people will buy the best there is as long as it is within reasonable cost/hassle constraints. Whats good enough doesn't enter the equation. And there's a ready supply of equipment out there owned by pros ready to make the switch over to a new 645 digital body. Why sell everything and start over when you've got such an investment already, not only in glass, but in the know how to use it. Pål
Re: PESO - Fallen Leaf
Great book. I was looking for my copy yesterday but couldn't find it. Just recommended it to another list member and she ordered a copy. Every photog should read it - it's that good! One of the little bits I especially liked, considering all the talk here about what constitutes a professional camera, was David Hurn's choice for a 35mm SLR. His choice for a 6x6 was almost as interesting ;-)) Shel [Original Message] From: David Mann I just read On Being a Photographer as recommended by several people here recently. What a fantastic book. I've had a bit of a photographic dry spell for a while, and lately I'm becoming keen to get out with the cameras again. It figures really, because I have no money now. Oh no, now I'm starting to get ideas for a project...
Re: Beginner's photo software for Ma
- Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: Re: Beginner's photo software for Ma On 21/10/05, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: iPhoto GGHHh My sentiments exactly. Unfortunately, it's all anyone's been able to suggest so far. What do you see as its shortcomings? I've never actually used the program, I just see the results of one photographer sending work to my PC based printer. His CD's are to many directories deep, his files are renamed, and no longer follow the digital camera filename protocol, and there will often be several different files with the same filename buried in different directories. Note that for my purposes, a file is an image file, since that is all I can read off his CDs. To be fair to iPhoto, the guy is totally computer illiterate, and really doesn't want to know this stuff, but even with that in mind, there is still the matter of seven directory deep CD's, which are not stable. William Robb
Re: Pentax DSLR future
- Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist Subject: Re: Pentax DSLR future Most heavy user pros have already made their digital choices and sold off what they had to in order to achieve them. However, there is a large supply of Pentax 645 glass out there. As I said before, if the camera is priced to appeal to advanced amateurs and small budget pros (wedding photogs, nature shooters and magazine PJs for example), it might do very well. If it comes in at 10K, as some here have predicted, it doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of succeeding. In it's favour, advanced amateurs and small budget pros are the vast majority of pro shooters. Probably less than 1/10 of 1% of pro grade shooters are in the Never Land that you work in. It'll have to be priced to sell, which means it will probably not make a whole lot of money per unit for anyone in the supply chain, but they will probably sell every one that they can spit out of the factory. William Robb
Re: Beginner's photo software for Mac
- Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist Subject: Re: Beginner's photo software for Mac That's true. As I discussed with you once before, it's not a good tool with which to prepare images for sending to a lab. Paul Stenquist; Understatement Man. Sadly for me, the one pro boy clien I have using iPhoto, is so computer retarded that he can't seem to figure out how to bypass iPhoto's CD burning routine. The other day, he sent me 3 CD's of files of house interiors with cloudy ay imbedded as the white balance. He was a really good shooter on film. The entire digital process seems to have him totally bamboozled. William Robb
RE: PhotoVista 3.5 vs. PTAssembler
Thanks a lot for commenting. I can't say that PTA works flawlessly all the time. Sometimes it even does very strange things. I guess I'm too much of a beginner right now. But I do know, that I could not stitch the shown image flawlessly in PhotoVista. It keept making small errors in stitching the buildings (some lines didn't intersect properly), which I had to correct later in PS. Parlty due to the fact that i did not use a Nodal Point adapter. The shown PTA panorama is not basically altered (the buildings) later. Only the people at the side walk cafés, who changed position between shots, have subsequently been corrected i PS (by pasting in parts of the original images). And I had to work on the sky, which had diffent shades of blue, leaving vertical stripes a few places. This procedure (pasting in parts of the original image) is BTW very easy in PhotoVista, because the large file saving has the same size as the original images. I'm glad you like PhotVista. So do I, except it can't really do vertical pano'es - only two images on top of each other. I geuss the big difference is that PTA can actually morph together images. If they don't fit right, PTA will make them fit :-) Regards Jens Bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 22. oktober 2005 13:33 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: PhotoVista 3.5 vs. PTAssembler i find PTAssembler wildly unpredictable about things that are supposed to be straight, like horizons, and terrible at blending. i can always find the blend line between each frame. PhotoVista is the best of what i have tried, and i have tried at least a dozen, commercial or otherwise. Panorama Maker and Stitcher Express are second best. i can't remember what Panorama Factory does, but i know that i never bought a copy after trying the demo. VR Toolbox does OK, but it never worked reliably for me, crashing occasionally. it did produce QTVR files properly though, which used to matter to me, but not much anymore. Ulead 360 uses much too small a part of the screen area and provided no zoom capability, so it was next to impossible to effectively override the automatic stitching. none of the Panorama Tools derived software blends well enough for me so i gave up on all of them, even if they can detect and correct distortion the best. PhotoVista 3.5 is the best tool i have so far except for two things - no 16-bit support, and limited output file formats. i'm going to try Panorama Maker again because they announced 16-bit support and output of layered Photoshop files in their newest version. Herb - Original Message - From: Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 5:35 AM Subject: OT: PhotoVista 3.5 vs. PTAssembler Take a look at the very diffent paniramas I made from the exact same 12 shots: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/54801567/ To me, the one made in PTA seem to be mopr consitant with the real world as I remeber it.
Re: Beginner's photo software for Ma
Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 21/10/05, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: iPhoto GGHHh My sentiments exactly. Unfortunately, it's all anyone's been able to suggest so far. What do you see as its shortcomings? (I bare in mind that you're both PC users). I think we're both reacting as people who worked in the photofinishing business and had to deal with iPhoto CD's brought in by customers. Perhaps I am being a bit harsh in my judgment, but surely *someone* must make an alternative that runs on Mac? BTW: At my job doing digital photography and restoration work at the photo store, I used Macs exclusively because that's what they had at this store. I am quite familiar with using Macs, though not the latest version of OS X (whatissit, calico or something? g) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
RE: picture of Dione from Cassini
Was this made with a digital camera - like the Hubble Telescope? I geuss it has the worlds lagest sensors ? Regards Jens -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 21. oktober 2005 00:23 Til: pentax list Emne: Re: picture of Dione from Cassini On 20/10/05, Steve Desjardins, discombobulated, unleashed: Check out the JPL website: http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/ Nice composition for a spacecraft. g Wow. If you'd just shown me the pic with no explanation, I would have sworn that was some CGI from Star Trek. Astonishing. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Beginner's photo software for Mac
William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Tim Sherburne iPhoto GGHHh My sentiments exactly. Unfortunately, it's all anyone's been able to suggest so far. I guess one man's floor is another man's ceiling. Here is what I know about iPhoto. Take it for the little it is worth. It puts data too many directories deep into a CD for my comfort. I've seen it put stuff 5-7 directories off the root. It changes filenames, seemingly at random. Speaking of changing filenames, here's something I encountered once at the photo store: Customer brought in a CD and requested prints of specific filenames. We couldn't find the filenames he specified, and tried another machine. I don't remember if we started with Mac or PC but we eventually found that browsing the disc on either platform showed different filenames... and that browsing it on out Fuji Frontier yielded yet a *third* different set of file names! (Our Fuji PrintPix kiosk showed the same filenames as the Frontier, not the Mac or the PC.) This wasn't an iPhoto CD, but rather something produced by ACDSee. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
BMWs; was Self Portrait?
Paul Stenquist wrote: True enough of the classic Bimmers. Contemporary BMWs with stability control and traction control do fine. That's pretty much true of any rear driver. Without an extremely talented driver or an equally talented computer, they can be a handful in the rain. That being said, I drove a 340 horsepower Chrysler 300C in the rain on Chrysler's test track up in Auburn Hills. It has a stability control system based on the Mercedes electronics. Try as I might, I couldn't get it to stumble even on wet pavement with the pedal to the metal. With the system switched off, keeping it on the straight and narrow required a very delicate touch, and I found I couldn't equal the performance of the electronics using just my brain and my foot. I've owned very few cars other than Land or Range-Rovers. The Jag XJ12L I had consumed fuel at such a rate that was prohibitive to drive any distance at all. But the one car I briefly owned and do regret selling was a BMW 2500. I very rarely see one (or the 2800) on the street any more. Were they ever sold in the US or Canada? Malcolm
Re: Small Pentax K lens test
I'm not quite sure what you mean by that. The last batch of prints I had made were about 11x15 or so, which seems to be about 100% Unless I can generate prints of that size with the quality that I demand, a lens, and, in fact, digital, is of not much value to me. I've not yet made any prints from the istDS because my skills with the camera and the raw converter are still pretty poor. However, I'm soon going to have to take the plunge. Your tests are valuable and your time and effort genuinely appreciated. Thanks! Shel [Original Message] From: Jarek Dabrowski Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: 5) the 18-55 is not a bad performer; it just isn't quite as good as the others. Well, I think it can easily compete with 20-35/4, nobody is inspecting photos at 100%. It is maybe a bit worse than 20-35, but for sure not 4 times worse as the price is :)
Re: Pentax DSLR future
Pål has said that the target market is mainly well-heeled amateurs in Japan. if you believe that, what happens in the US and Europe isn't all that important. it all boils down to how much Pentax has to pay for the sensor. the price leader for large sensors these days is the Canon 5D. it costs about $3500 for a complete camera with a 12MP 24x36 sensor. the area of the 645D sensor is 35x46. even if cost only went up proportional to area, that's almost 1.9 times the price. add to that the fact that Canon makes their own sensors and don't have to pay as much for profit, plus CMOS sensors are easier to fabricate, and that Canon will sell more 5Ds and get a larger economy of scale and $5K for the 645D is just fantasy. even $8K is marginally likely, as far as i am concerned. the Mamiya ZD is expected to sell for $12K. that is the reasonable upper limit. Herb - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 8:19 AM Subject: Re: Pentax DSLR future In it's favour, advanced amateurs and small budget pros are the vast majority of pro shooters. Probably less than 1/10 of 1% of pro grade shooters are in the Never Land that you work in. It'll have to be priced to sell, which means it will probably not make a whole lot of money per unit for anyone in the supply chain, but they will probably sell every one that they can spit out of the factory.
Re: PESO PAW - No Parking
Hi David ... thanks for commenting. I never thought about that do-dad. I'll have to look carefully at some other signs. Hmmm ... maybe a photo essay on sign do-dads is in order LOL Shel Am I paranoid or perceptive? [Original Message] From: David Savage Sorry Shel, technically a fine shot but it doesn't really work for me. I do find one thing very interesting though, the do-dad that holds the sign on the pipe. I've never seen anything that elaborate. Very flash :-) http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/noparking.html
Re: PhotoVista 3.5 vs. PTAssembler
the nodal point adapter would not have made a difference. Stitcher Express would have done it flawlessly. whenever i have buildings and straight lines, that is what i use. i just tried the new Panorama Factory 4.0 and bought it. it supports 16-bit TIFF files as input and does a good job of blending. 16-bit input is really important to me. Herb - Original Message - From: Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 8:31 AM Subject: RE: PhotoVista 3.5 vs. PTAssembler Thanks a lot for commenting. I can't say that PTA works flawlessly all the time. Sometimes it even does very strange things. I guess I'm too much of a beginner right now. But I do know, that I could not stitch the shown image flawlessly in PhotoVista. It keept making small errors in stitching the buildings (some lines didn't intersect properly), which I had to correct later in PS. Parlty due to the fact that i did not use a Nodal Point adapter.
Re: Cesar and Cotty do Oxford
On 10/21/05, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Spoke to the main man tonight on the phone, he's heading up to Oxford in the morning and we're meeting up to do the meander thing. He sounds well, full of beans as he explores Britain on his first trip here. I'll post some pics on Sunday. god help britain! g -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson Depends on how may 645's he brought with him.g Dave
Re: Beginner's photo software for Ma
- Original Message - From: Bertil Holmberg Subject: Re: Beginner's photo software for Ma iPhoto is nice but a terrible memory hog, perhaps even worse than Photoshop. iPhoto GGHHh William Robb I'm starting to agree with WW here.LOL) I think i'll stick with PS Elements at the least.(when it arrives and gets installed) Dave
K50/1.4 repair?
Hey all. I've got a K50/1.4 a few months ago that's become one of my favorite lenses. Trouble is, the front barrel is a little bit loose. By front barrel, I mean the forward-most piece... the one that houses the glass, not the focus ring. It can be wiggled sideways slightly, and it noticable in the viewfinder. Is there anything like a loose setscrew that could cause this? I had a Vivitar zoom I took apart due to the same problem, and found two of three setscrews around the circumference loose, which allowed it to wiggle sideways. I've taken apart (and reassembled sucessfully) a few lenses already, so I'm not too worried about that... unless ignorance is bliss? I'm not really keen on doing an exploratory on this and risk the possibility of screwing it up or misadjusting something , only to discover that I cannot fix the problem anyway. Anyone had one of these apart? I've also got an M50/1.4 that has a large piece of something in front of the rear element that I may try to remove. Thanks -Cory -- * * Cory Papenfuss* * Electrical Engineering candidate Ph.D. graduate student * * Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University * *
RE: PESO - Fallen Leaf
I like the idea. I admire the technique, brilliant. I also do like the shadow at the concrete in left part of the image. Can't say I like the composition. There is something with the placement of the leaf. Never the less, I can't help thinking of an IKEA poster. It is pleasant to look at, but doesn't provoke any emotions. I see that I am outnumbered here, but this is my opinion ;-) Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22. oktober 2005 00:28 To: PDML Subject: PESO - Fallen Leaf http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/fallenleaf.html Saw it, snapped it, Photoshopped it I'm in the digital doldrums ... Shel
Re: Jostein, can you hear me?
Yes, hello? :-) Thanks for the mails, Pancho. For now, I can only assure you that communication works. Thanks also to all you other folks who have sent me comments and suggestions privately. It is all duly noted and will be heeded to. Like Tom C I have busy days, and have to round up the PUG work on days when I have time to sit down with it for a couple of hours without interference. Usually this happens in the week-ends. Jostein - Original Message - From: Pancho Hasselbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 11:31 PM Subject: Jostein, can you hear me? Jostein, I sent you some emails concerning the new PUG, by now I did not get any feedback. Please drop me a line so that I know if communication works, thanks. Pancho
Re: help - mailbox full
Gee... You guys must really consider the list to be an important resource. Me? I delete most emails after reading. If one looks like I would want to refer to it in the future I move it to a save folder on my computer. All emails are deleted from the server (usually just a matter clicking box in your mail reader) when downloaded daily. I have 5mb available for email on charter.net and have never, come close to using it all. Now, I can understand never deleting email from the pop server, I have a friend who does not; but then, his house is waist deep in trash too, as he has an obsessive-compulsive disorder. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof ---
Re: Tamron P/KA on Pentax D cameras
You mean that Tamron lenses made before, say, 1984, won't act like an A lens with the P-KA adapter? I guess they won't. I believe there must be the red AE above the highest aperture on the lens, in order to work like am A-lens with an adaptall-2 adapter. Despite my earlier dogmatic statement about K and Ka compatibility with the Adaptall 2 mounts, I'm going to have to look at it again. The only Tamron lens I've used with my fairly new DS is the 500/8 SD mirror, and I was using just a K-mount version of the Adaptall 2 mount with it (at f/8, of course). I am going to have to dig out a Ka version Adaptall 2 mount (I've got one sitting around here someplace) and try it with my other Adaptall lenses - an SD 300/5.6 lens and an SD CF 70-150/2.8 Variable Soft lens - both of which are from the pre-Ka era, I do believe (although I'm not so sure about the 70-150/2.8). [Since I have only recently entered the world of modern af bodies (the DS), and since I have never really used any program modes on my LX's (of course - g) or on my Super A's (I've used manual and aperture-priority modes all the time), I never had a need to use the Adaptall 2 Ka version - the K version was all I ever used.] In the meantime, I apologize if my recent perhaps overly dogmatic statement might have been stated prematurely (in that I probably should have verified it first before posting it). [By the way, if anyone wants a Nikon Adaptall 2 mount for free - just pay the shipping - I've got one - it came with one lens or another, and it's just sitting on the 70-150/2.8, and, being a Nikon mount, it's kinda weird - you have to screw the Adaptall mount onto the lens clockwise, being careful to not at the same time un-screw the lens cap counterclockwise - g.] Fred
Re: Beginner's photo software for Ma
On Oct 22, 2005, at 7:41, Mark Roberts wrote: I think we're both reacting as people who worked in the photofinishing business and had to deal with iPhoto CD's brought in by customers. Perhaps I am being a bit harsh in my judgment, but surely *someone* must make an alternative that runs on Mac? This is a problem on the part of the people who make the CDs. iPhoto has an option to export photos, which makes a perfectly reasonable ISO9000-compliant CD and all that. BUT - the standard format of an iPhoto library does have the nesting, the multiple folders, and all that. Part of iPhoto's way of managing multiple versions of the photos, thumbnails etc. It can get messy if you start browsing around in the file structure. Perhaps it would be better if Apple made it even simpler - a big button which just says create cd for bringing to the photofinishers. But of course they won't do that, because they would like you to send 'em to their online photo printing service. (sigh) I find it adequate for simple photo management. I find it completely doggy on my 1.4gig Powerbook with a gig of RAM if I try to use it to edit photos. It's quicker to launch CS2 once (with the inevitable wait for everything to load) and then double-click on each photo in turn to load it up for editing. -Charles -- Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org
Re: help - mailbox full
I signed up in February. 158MB as of now. It's still on the gmail server. Francois, if you want a Gmail account, there are quite a few of us on the list. I'd be happy to send an invite your way, as I'm sure most others would, too. On 10/22/05, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree, Gmail is great for this sort of thing. I subscribed in January and I am currently using 171MB (6%) of my 2656MB limit. Once a month I download the messages onto my PC. Interesting address you have there Glen :-) Dave On 10/22/05, Glenn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I now use gmail for my PDML reading. This list has produced about 80MB of mail since July, but the gmail limit has increased about 400MB in that same time. Glenn -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman
Re: Pentax DSLR future
This thread reminds me of the no one would ever buy a DSLR --too expensive, that was going on here a couple of years back. As I recall I was about the only for voice back then. There does seem to be more people believing the 645 DSLR will sell. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof ---
Re: BMWs; was Self Portrait?
On Oct 22, 2005, at 5:43 AM, Malcolm Smith wrote: I've owned very few cars other than Land or Range-Rovers. The Jag XJ12L I had consumed fuel at such a rate that was prohibitive to drive any distance at all. But the one car I briefly owned and do regret selling was a BMW 2500. I very rarely see one (or the 2800) on the street any more. Were they ever sold in the US or Canada? Those are very old sedans now, most have succumbed to rust and mileage. BMW sold both the 2500 and 2800 in the US, about 30 years ago. At some point, about 1972 or so, the US distributor came up with a 2800 series sedan package and named the the BMW Bavaria. It was a great car. I've owned a lot of different cars over the past 35 years, all different types. My '71 BMW 2002 fitted with all the Alpina kit bits was a wonderful little rat and a lot of fun to drive. But the only car I've ever regretted selling was my 1971 Alfa Romeo Spider 1750 Veloce. I traded it to buy a Lamborghini, and the Lambo was fine, but the Spider was the sweetest running, nicest handling, most fun to drive car I ever owned. My current Spider is good but isn't of the same calibre. Seen through the rose-tinted glasses of fond memory, of course. ;-) Godfrey
Re: Remove
The magic word is unsubscribe, but it does not work on the list, only on the list-server whose name is [EMAIL PROTECTED]. However, please don't tell anyone as it is supposed to be a secret. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Pancho Hasselbach wrote: frank theriault schrieb: On 10/21/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Remove what? The lens cap? Certainly not the PDML. The Pentax list is like the hotel California. You can check in any time you wish, but you can never leave. Would you like a wakeup call? i wonder: was it something we said? This reminds of that kind of fairy tale where you must say exactly the right word to make the miracle happen, and people try and try and try... Pancho
Re: Beginner's photo software for Ma
Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 22, 2005, at 7:41, Mark Roberts wrote: I think we're both reacting as people who worked in the photofinishing business and had to deal with iPhoto CD's brought in by customers. Perhaps I am being a bit harsh in my judgment, but surely *someone* must make an alternative that runs on Mac? This is a problem on the part of the people who make the CDs. iPhoto has an option to export photos, which makes a perfectly reasonable ISO9000-compliant CD and all that. ISO9000 UUGH! ;-) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Small Pentax K lens test
I would take it that Jarek is saying Looking at the pixels on-screen at 1:1 when he says inspecting photos at 100%. An 11x15 image area (not the piece of paper you print it on, the printed area) from a full frame DS image file represents about 200 ppi output density. That's certainly high enough density to make an excellent quality print, although you might want to upsample by 2x for a bit more cropping room. I made a run of 13x19 prints (11x17 image area) as a test of the Epson R2400 that are worthy of hanging. Godfrey On Oct 22, 2005, at 5:48 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: I'm not quite sure what you mean by that. The last batch of prints I had made were about 11x15 or so, which seems to be about 100% Unless I can generate prints of that size with the quality that I demand, a lens, and, in fact, digital, is of not much value to me. I've not yet made any prints from the istDS because my skills with the camera and the raw converter are still pretty poor. However, I'm soon going to have to take the plunge. From: Jarek Dabrowski Well, I think it can easily compete with 20-35/4, nobody is inspecting photos at 100%. It is maybe a bit worse than 20-35, but for sure not 4 times worse as the price is :) 5) the 18-55 is not a bad performer; it just isn't quite as good as the others.
Re: Remove
On Saturday, October 22, 2005, at 10:19 AM, graywolf wrote: The magic word is unsubscribe, but it does not work on the list, only on the list-server whose name is [EMAIL PROTECTED]. However, please don't tell anyone as it is supposed to be a secret. Actually there is only one sure way to unsubscribe from this or any list. Just put $ 500 in unmarked bills into a shoebox. Bury the shoebox in your back yard. Send me your address off list. One of my underground agents will then assure that you are unsubscribed within four to six weeks. Bob
Re: Self Portrait?
Depends upon the car, 9/10's in a MG TC was well withing my limits. In a Ferrari Daytona it would have been disasterous. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- keith_w wrote: William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: keith_w Subject: Re: Self Portrait? Neither of the BMW's that I have owned handled especially well in the wet Obviously ~ wrong tires... I'm not sure if I can blame the equipment. I have a bad habit of overdriving the conditions. Of course, anyone *can* outdrive his vehicle and the road conditions, if he's either inattentive or foolhardy. Or both. Driving at 9/10ths or more of the car's capability requires truly exceptional attention and skill, which the greatest bulk of drivers simply don't have, and will not devote the time to develop... And, some (95% or more?) don't have the reaction time and reflexes necessary. Not meant to be a put down, just a recognition of the facts But, I tried both Contis and Michelins on both. Neither would keep the vehicle on the road the way I tended to drive at the time. Glad to hear that sentence in the past tense... ;-) William (Shut up and Buckle up) Robb _Do_ take care of yourself! keith
Re: Today I Was Stopped by the Police While Photographing
Well, I do not have a problem with the police arresting me after repeatedly telling me I am breaking a law, even if it is a stupid law. It is not as if she didn't have a clue. She is not a victim, she is an imbecile. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- John Forbes wrote: This is the most depressing thing I've seen for a while. Just because there is a bad law, doesn't mean these nitwits have to zealously enforce it. Of course, they might be doing so in order to demonstrate how absurd it is, but somehow I doubt it. John On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:17:28 +0100, Chris Stoddart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You think you're harassed in the 'States? You guys aren't even born yet :-) http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,170-1829289,00.html Chris
Re: Beginner's photo software for Ma
iPhoto works fine. The facility to burn a CD within the application is NOT intended to create a CD for output to a print service ... the Help does not make that clear. It is intended as a way to archive your photos for iPhoto's use, so it retains all of the (rather overly complex) iPhoto database directory structure. The correct way to make a CD to bring to a printer is to select all the photos you want to send and use the Export command to write them to a folder. Then you exit iPhoto, stick in a blank CD ... The Finder mounts a virtual disk image, you drag your folder to it and say burn. A few minutes later, you have a CD which is 100% Mac OS and Windows compatible with a folder full of properly named JPEG image files. That's what you should tell your computer noob clients, and show them how to do it if you can. It will make your life a lot easier. Regards other, low-cost solutions for image editing/management on Mac OS X ... There are quite a few, but all of them are more complex to understand and use. There are several in the shareware/freeware domain, a number of commercial products. Go take a look at http:// www.versiontracker.com/macosx/ and search on photo, photo edit, image catalog etc. But iPhoto does a lot for the noob, does it well, is easy to use, and costs nothing. It's not a photo enthusiast's tool of choice. Godfrey
Re: Small Pentax K lens test
hi, I'll have to double check, but i think some of the prints were from 5x7 crops - iac, you're correct in thinking image area not paper size. what does it mean to upsample and what does that do to the final quality? I think it was Paul who mentioned that with digital a lower ppi can be used than with film. the biggest concern is what happens to the image when printed that large with less than a full frame, like a 5x7 format. the files i deliver to the lab have a minimum of 330 ppi, sometimes more. i don't use or make inkjet prints, rather the lab uses some frontier and lightjet machines - one uses something really high-end - bill robb was impressed when he learned what it was. i don't remember much about the specific machines. got the tour of the labs, assured myself the equipment and skills were acceptable, and soon forgot the technical details ;-)) Shel [Original Message] From: Godfrey DiGiorgi I would take it that Jarek is saying Looking at the pixels on-screen at 1:1 when he says inspecting photos at 100%. An 11x15 image area (not the piece of paper you print it on, the printed area) from a full frame DS image file represents about 200 ppi output density. That's certainly high enough density to make an excellent quality print, although you might want to upsample by 2x for a bit more cropping room. I made a run of 13x19 prints (11x17 image area) as a test of the Epson R2400 that are worthy of hanging.
OT: Ibook?
Does it make any sense to have an apple laptop If I've already got a PC desktop? I know they used to have totally different requirements for printers/monitors/and software, what's that like these days? Reply off-list if you'd rather. Thanks, Cory
RE: PESO - Fallen Leaf
thanks for your candid comments. never having seen an IKEA poster, I've no frame of reference. care to elaborate? Shel [Original Message] From: Tim Øsleby I like the idea. I admire the technique, brilliant. I also do like the shadow at the concrete in left part of the image. Can't say I like the composition. There is something with the placement of the leaf. Never the less, I can't help thinking of an IKEA poster. It is pleasant to look at, but doesn't provoke any emotions. I see that I am outnumbered here, but this is my opinion ;-) http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/fallenleaf.html
RE: PESO: Self Portrait?
hi David ... i like the graphic quality of the pic. didn't understand the self portrait reference until just now when i ~finally~ saw your reflection ;-)) Shel [Original Message] From: David Savage I was playing taxi service a few weeks ago and while waiting I spied this beautiful beast: http://tinyurl.com/95tuo http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_013.htm
Re: Self Portrait?
Chris Stoddart wrote: On Fri, 21 Oct 2005, William Robb wrote: Neither of the BMW's that I have owned handled especially well in the wet Obviously ~ wrong tires... I'm not sure if I can blame the equipment. I have a bad habit of overdriving the conditions. But, I tried both Contis and Michelins on both. Neither would keep the vehicle on the road the way I tended to drive at the time. Yep, Keith's right; tyre/tire choice is critical. Over the last decade I've tried several makes on my E30s Michelins - arg, like driving on grease Continentals - average and expensive Pirelli P6-somethings - not bad, would have them again GoodYear Eagles - current fave Of course tread patterns and rubber compunds in North America might bear no relation to those in Europe, which I am sure are designed more for wet, curvy roads? Ditto the car suspension? Also bear in mind BMW's are meant to be a bit tail-happy because they're all about the driver being in charge, not the car :-) William (Shut up and Buckle up) Robb Mind how you go, Chris My point was, back when I was racing, you could look up the tire's stickiness in the wet. Some of them are almost like natural rubber, and really DO hang on a line, while sacrificing wear characteristics. Really good sticky tires wear very poorly. It's all a ticklish compromise... Keep in mind, however, when a good sticky tire finally _does_ let go, there's little or no warning! All of a sudden you're all hung out as the under- or oversteer characteristics of your car take over violently, and if you're really lucky, all you'll do is slide. The word dicey comes to mind... keith
Re: Small Pentax K lens test
On Oct 22, 2005, at 7:48 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: ... I think it was Paul who mentioned that with digital a lower ppi can be used than with film. .. I know I've mentioned it here several times. I'll have to double check, but i think some of the prints were from 5x7 crops - iac, you're correct in thinking image area not paper size. what does it mean to upsample and what does that do to the final quality? I think it was Paul who mentioned that with digital a lower ppi can be used than with film. the biggest concern is what happens to the image when printed that large with less than a full frame, like a 5x7 format. The full format output from the DS is just like 35mm format: 3:2 proportion. A 5x7 proportion image area is pretty close to 2:3 proportion ... you're losing about .5 of image area if you were to crop proportionally and set output sizing to produce a 5x7 image. The standard output from the DS is ~2000x3000 pixels, full frame. Setting density to print such that 2000 pixels fit on the 5 size nets you a 400 ppi (pixels per inch) output density ... higher than is needed for nearly any printer. If you crop the image, you'd have to crop it to something smaller than 1000x1400 pixels to push output density below 200 ppi for this size print. If you want to keep the same 330 ppi minimum output density that you use for scanned film images on this size print, just don't crop to less than 1650x2310 pixels. I think you'll find that it's generally unnecessary to maintain output density quite that high, but if that's what the lab is set up to do I'd stick with it. the files i deliver to the lab have a minimum of 330 ppi, sometimes more. i don't use or make inkjet prints, rather the lab uses some frontier and lightjet machines - one uses something really high-end - bill robb was impressed when he learned what it was. If you want to keep the same 330 ppi minimum output density that you use for scanned film images on this size print, just don't crop to less than 1650x2310 pixels. ... what does it mean to upsample and what does that do to the final quality? ... Upsampling means using interpolation to expand the number of pixels used to represent the image. You're not increasing the amount of detail in the image when you do this, but you're increasing the number of pixels used to represent the same amount of detail. Depending upon how you upsample and edit the image, it can be used to advantage to make large sized prints with higher quality ... but is completely unnecessary to print photos in the 5x7 inch image size range from a 6Mpixel camera. I upsample image files when I'm intending to print to 13x19 inch, or larger, image area sizing in order to get more cropping room to work with, or to meet the needs of a particular printer device. Of course, done improperly and edited poorly, upsampled image can lose sharpness, etc. If you don't need to do it, I wouldn't. Godfrey
Re: Self Portrait?
Paul Stenquist wrote: True enough of the classic Bimmers. Contemporary BMWs with stability control and traction control do fine. That's pretty much true of any rear driver. Without an extremely talented driver or an equally talented computer, they can be a handful in the rain. That being said, I drove a 340 horsepower Chrysler 300C in the rain on Chrysler's test track up in Auburn Hills. It has a stability control system based on the Mercedes electronics. Try as I might, I couldn't get it to stumble even on wet pavement with the pedal to the metal. With the system switched off, keeping it on the straight and narrow required a very delicate touch, and I found I couldn't equal the performance of the electronics using just my brain and my foot. Paul Very interesting data point, Paul. In a Chrysler, no less! How things have changed... keith whaley [...]
Re: OT: Ibook?
On Saturday, October 22, 2005, at 10:52 AM, cbwaters wrote: Does it make any sense to have an apple laptop If I've already got a PC desktop? I know they used to have totally different requirements for printers/monitors/and software, what's that like these days? I don't know if it makes sense. I'm just the reverse, Mac desktop units and a Windows laptop. Why? Because all I do on the laptop is word processing stuff, and Windows laptops are cheaper. You can plug the same monitors into either, and same for printers, external drives, etc. You still need separate software for Mac and Windows, but the Sharp laptop I got came with Microsoft Office, so I didn't need to buy anything extra. Bob
Re: OT: Ibook?
It all depends upon what you intend to do with the laptop and how (or whether) you want to share the data you use on it with the desktop. Also whether you feel comfortable being conversant in the use of two different operating systems is a factor. Apple's iBooks and PowerBooks are excellent laptops. I know several people who have a Windows desktop system and an iBook or PowerBook laptop. They switch back and forth between them fluidly. Others I've worked with are less flexible and don't want to understand or exploit the differences .. for them, if they need both a laptop and a desktop computer, it is better to have two running the same OS (either one). You cannot run software designed and built for Mac OS X on a Windows system, and you can't run software designed and built for Windows on a Mac OS X system natively (you can run it in a Window emulation environment, like Virtual PC). However, for many uses, data files (like TEXT, Word, Excel, image files, etc) are completely interchangeable: application software on Mac OS X and Windows will read and write the same data files, and the data files can be transferred directly from one to the other without any issues. It is also the case that many popular application software packages are available built for either OS platform ... like Photoshop, Microsoft Office, VueScan, etc. For hardware peripherals, most are accessible to either operating system platform nowadays although you should always check with the hardware vendor to be sure that there are drivers available for the specific device on the OS you want to use it with. Monitors, printers, external disk drives, burners, mouse and tablets, etc are usually interchangeable these days. Gdofrey On Oct 22, 2005, at 7:52 AM, cbwaters wrote: Does it make any sense to have an apple laptop If I've already got a PC desktop? I know they used to have totally different requirements for printers/monitors/and software, what's that like these days? Reply off-list if you'd rather. Thanks, Cory
Re: Small Pentax K lens test
No no no ... i wasn't talking about printing 5x7, but of using a 5x7 format crop but printing 10x14 or so. Will read more and comment further. Shel [Original Message] From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Depending upon how you upsample and edit the image, it can be used to advantage to make large sized prints with higher quality ... but is completely unnecessary to print photos in the 5x7 inch image size range from a 6Mpixel camera. I upsample image files when I'm intending to print to 13x19 inch, or larger, image area sizing in order to get more cropping room to work with, or to meet the needs of a particular printer device.
RE: PESO - Fallen Leaf
I'll try to explain my IKEA referanse. IKEA is one of the kings in furniture. Google is our friend: A look at http://www.ikea.com/ will give you an idea. It is huge. It is global. So I assumed it meant something to you. Anyway, they do make nice and reasonable prized furniture. My bookshelves, and some of my lamps, are IKEA ;-) They do design, manufacture and sell Scandinavian modern style furniture and accessories (this is the META-text at their global homepage). Among other things they do make posters. Some of them are artsy in a quite nice way. But as you may already have guessed, they are designed to be hung at walls in an average modern family. In other words; it is pleasant to look at, very politically correct and non provocative. BTW. I have bought some IKEA posters myself at work. I think they are Ok, but not my personal taste most of them. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22. oktober 2005 16:57 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: PESO - Fallen Leaf thanks for your candid comments. never having seen an IKEA poster, I've no frame of reference. care to elaborate? Shel [Original Message] From: Tim Øsleby I like the idea. I admire the technique, brilliant. I also do like the shadow at the concrete in left part of the image. Can't say I like the composition. There is something with the placement of the leaf. Never the less, I can't help thinking of an IKEA poster. It is pleasant to look at, but doesn't provoke any emotions. I see that I am outnumbered here, but this is my opinion ;-) http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/fallenleaf.html
Re: Small Pentax K lens test
Think pixels, Shel. 5:7 is a proportion, not a dimension like 5x7. To make a 10x14 image area (5:7 proportion) on paper at 330 pixels per inch, you need 3300x4620 pixels. That's 15+ Mpixels, greater than the DS sensor produces and generally more than you need for a quality print to that size. To make a 10x14 print using the 2000x3000 pixels available without upsampling, you need to print at 200 ppi. This will print an image of 2000x2800 pixels: the crop means you are losing a 200 pixel wide strip off the long dimension. If you WANT to print at 330 ppi and make that size print, you need to upsample the DS image file to expand the number of pixels by a factor of 1.65x linearly. The result, if done correctly, should look indistinguishably different from printing at 200 ppi if done well, but might look a little better if processing after the upsampling was done properly. Godfrey On Oct 22, 2005, at 8:24 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: No no no ... i wasn't talking about printing 5x7, but of using a 5x7 format crop but printing 10x14 or so. Will read more and comment further. Shel [Original Message] From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Depending upon how you upsample and edit the image, it can be used to advantage to make large sized prints with higher quality ... but is completely unnecessary to print photos in the 5x7 inch image size range from a 6Mpixel camera. I upsample image files when I'm intending to print to 13x19 inch, or larger, image area sizing in order to get more cropping room to work with, or to meet the needs of a particular printer device.
RE: PESO: Self Portrait?
yes, no or otherwise I vote otherwise ;-) Sorry, could help myself making a bad joke. BTW. I like the picture. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: David Savage [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22. oktober 2005 04:55 To: PDML Subject: PESO: Self Portrait? G'day All, I was playing taxi service a few weeks ago and while waiting I spied this beautiful beast: http://tinyurl.com/95tuo http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_013.htm I kinda' stuffed up when I took the shot. It could fixed in PS but I don't want to g Comments yes, no or otherwise are always appreciated. Dave
Re: Beginner's photo software for Ma
This is exactly what I meant when I said iPhoto is a memory hog. It takes my 1GHz 1GB PB a minut of hard disk activety to recover after a photo editing session with iPhoto and PS. And that's a long time to wait when you just want to go back to your email. Sure, I could use a Power Mac, but I don't want a nine fan windtunnel in my bedroom. Regrettable, the Pentax RAW software is even slower. It is unusable for all practical purposes. I shudder when I think of the next gen of 8MP+ cameras. Now, a shareware program such as Graphic Converter not only opens Pentax RAW images when Apple can't (or won't), it does so much faster than the Pentax software. Go figure... Bertil I find it adequate for simple photo management. I find it completely doggy on my 1.4gig Powerbook with a gig of RAM if I try to use it to edit photos. It's quicker to launch CS2 once (with the inevitable wait for everything to load) and then double-click on each photo in turn to load it up for editing.
Re: Small Pentax K lens test
On Oct 22, 2005, at 8:37 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: ... If you WANT to print at 330 ppi and make that size print, you need to upsample the DS image file to expand the number of pixels by a factor of 1.65x linearly. The result, if done correctly, should look indistinguishably different from printing at 200 ppi if done well, but might look a little better if processing after the upsampling was done properly. BTW, if you are planning to make a large number of prints at that sizing and are working from RAW files, it might make sense to develop the RAW conversion and editing workflow such that you upsampled the image on output from the RAW converter. This increases the amount of data the editing application needs to work with, but might make it simpler to visualize the correct edits to improve quality without the added steps of upsampling and reprocessing. Godfrey
Re: Self Portrait?
On 22 Oct 2005 at 8:17, keith_w wrote: Very interesting data point, Paul. In a Chrysler, no less! How things have changed... If you would like to see how capable traction control systems are these days check out the following video which shows a little 6L W12 4WD heading flat out into a skid-pan, warning it's a 4MB clip. http://tm-techmark.com/touareg/video/W12%20at%20ADAC1.MOV Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: OT: Ibook?
Does it make any sense to have an apple laptop If I've already got a PC desktop? I know they used to have totally different requirements for printers/monitors/and software, what's that like these days? Reply off-list if you'd rather. Thanks, Cory Cory I'm in the same boat. I now have a PC and ibook. I wanted portability and field storage, and felt the Mac was a good way to go. It means replacing some software like PS to run on the mac(just waiting to save some money to get CS) but i think the two systems will work out. I purchased the iworks which is supposed to read and save as word files,but i have not tried this yet. The unit is just lovely. Well built and i bought from Apple and it took 4 days to arrive. Dave
RE: PESO - Fallen Leaf
IKEA means something to me. I know it's a furniture and more store. There's one about 10 miles from my house. It was the reference to the IKEA ~poster~ that I didn't understand. I've never been inside an IKEA store, never seen their wares, and certainly am unfamiliar with their posters. Shel [Original Message] From: Tim Øsleby I'll try to explain my IKEA referanse. IKEA is one of the kings in furniture. Google is our friend: A look at http://www.ikea.com/ will give you an idea. It is huge. It is global. So I assumed it meant something to you. Anyway, they do make nice and reasonable prized furniture. My bookshelves, and some of my lamps, are IKEA ;-) They do design, manufacture and sell Scandinavian modern style furniture and accessories (this is the META-text at their global homepage). Among other things they do make posters. Some of them are artsy in a quite nice way. But as you may already have guessed, they are designed to be hung at walls in an average modern family. In other words; it is pleasant to look at, very politically correct and non provocative. BTW. I have bought some IKEA posters myself at work. I think they are Ok, but not my personal taste most of them. http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/fallenleaf.html
Re: Jostein, can you hear me?
Thank you very much, this sounds very well-known to me, it's the weekends or the nights... Looking forward to new things to see, Pancho Jostein schrieb: Yes, hello? :-) Thanks for the mails, Pancho. For now, I can only assure you that communication works. Thanks also to all you other folks who have sent me comments and suggestions privately. It is all duly noted and will be heeded to. Like Tom C I have busy days, and have to round up the PUG work on days when I have time to sit down with it for a couple of hours without interference. Usually this happens in the week-ends. Jostein - Original Message - From: Pancho Hasselbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 11:31 PM Subject: Jostein, can you hear me? Jostein, I sent you some emails concerning the new PUG, by now I did not get any feedback. Please drop me a line so that I know if communication works, thanks. Pancho
Re: help - mailbox full
Scott Loveless wrote: I signed up in February. 158MB as of now. It's still on the gmail server. Francois, if you want a Gmail account, there are quite a few of us on the list. I'd be happy to send an invite your way, as I'm sure most others would, too. On 10/22/05, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree, Gmail is great for this sort of thing. I subscribed in January and I am currently using 171MB (6%) of my 2656MB limit. Once a month I download the messages onto my PC. Interesting address you have there Glen :-) Back when we cared about bandwidth (we still do, don't we?) it was considered bad form to post pictures to email lists and newsgroups. The reason is that one picture, times hundreds or thousands of recipients or newsservers quickly consumed gigabytes of total resources, distributed across the net. Gmail is a similar issue. It's a decentralized archive, in a way. Instead of one central archive existing for this mailing list, folks are each archiving every post in their own gmail accounts. Fine, gmail is free. But what an inefficient solution to the archival question. just a rant. ;) Dave
Re: Beginner's photo software for Ma
The reason your PowerBook takes so long to complete operations isn't that it's a memory hog. It is because the hard drive in your laptop is slow. iPhoto is a fairly disk-intensive application. Most laptop drives until the very latest series PowerBooks and iBooks are 4200rpm devices with a limited data transfer rate. I replaced the original 10G hard drive in my PowerBook G3/500Mhz, which only has 640M of RAM installed, with a 7200rpm drive ... overall system operations/iPhoto are at least 2x-3x faster now, with the same amount of RAM. BTW, a nine-fan Power Mac G5 DP tower is generally as quiet as or quieter than an iMac or PowerBook when the fan is running. The thermal sensors and airflow management in the G5 tower is amazingly efficient and the fans are virtually silent unless you are pushing the cpu to its limits and it needs to shed a LOT of heat. Graphic Converter is very fast because it does nearly all of its image processing in RAM, very little swapping to the hard drive unless an explicit Save operation is called. It supports Pentax PEF files because it uses the dcraw source library in its implementation, which Apple does not (or uses a subset). But Graphic Converter is far from a newbie - easy to use - do most things automagically application, in my opinion. It's the next step after iPhoto for someone who is getting more interested in image editing. Godfrey On Oct 22, 2005, at 8:43 AM, Bertil Holmberg wrote: This is exactly what I meant when I said iPhoto is a memory hog. It takes my 1GHz 1GB PB a minut of hard disk activety to recover after a photo editing session with iPhoto and PS. And that's a long time to wait when you just want to go back to your email. Sure, I could use a Power Mac, but I don't want a nine fan windtunnel in my bedroom. Regrettable, the Pentax RAW software is even slower. It is unusable for all practical purposes. I shudder when I think of the next gen of 8MP+ cameras. Now, a shareware program such as Graphic Converter not only opens Pentax RAW images when Apple can't (or won't), it does so much faster than the Pentax software. Go figure... Bertil I find it adequate for simple photo management. I find it completely doggy on my 1.4gig Powerbook with a gig of RAM if I try to use it to edit photos. It's quicker to launch CS2 once (with the inevitable wait for everything to load) and then double-click on each photo in turn to load it up for editing.
RE: BMWs; was Self Portrait?
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Those are very old sedans now, most have succumbed to rust and mileage. BMW sold both the 2500 and 2800 in the US, about 30 years ago. At some point, about 1972 or so, the US distributor came up with a 2800 series sedan package and named the the BMW Bavaria. It was a great car. I've owned a lot of different cars over the past 35 years, all different types. My '71 BMW 2002 fitted with all the Alpina kit bits was a wonderful little rat and a lot of fun to drive. But the only car I've ever regretted selling was my 1971 Alfa Romeo Spider 1750 Veloce. I traded it to buy a Lamborghini, and the Lambo was fine, but the Spider was the sweetest running, nicest handling, most fun to drive car I ever owned. My current Spider is good but isn't of the same calibre. Seen through the rose-tinted glasses of fond memory, of course. ;-) Thanks. My 2500 was a 'J' registration plate, which made it sometime between Aug' '71 July '72 and it must have been 13/14 years old when I got it. I remember it feeling very comfortable and solid, with no loose trim or rattles and it had done 12+ miles - the UK equivalent saloons would long have fallen apart. It's only in more recent times I've owned newish vehicles. The other cars sound fantastic fun to drive. Malcolm
Re: Self serve PESO type PUG?
Jostein schrieb: On Oct 18, 2005, at 1:24 AM, Mark Stringer wrote: What if there were a self serve PESO website, that could be accessed anytime to see images posted. Hi Mark, Someone would have to create and host the site, and preferrably keep it as a free service. Besides, there are already many such services around: ... Just to name a few that people on this list use. The latter two can be used free of charge, even. It has been my impression that the PDML people don't want the PUG to be the same as all the mainstream photo sites, and personally I must say that I don't really see the point. Jostein What I did not mention when I recently voted for the future of PUG was the challenge that is created by the themes, which requires a stronger effort and more thought than just posting random pictures. This is a good thing. Pancho
RE: PESO - Fallen Leaf
Shel Belinkoff wrote: IKEA means something to me. I know it's a furniture and more store. There's one about 10 miles from my house. It was the reference to the IKEA ~poster~ that I didn't understand. I've never been inside an IKEA store, never seen their wares, and certainly am unfamiliar with their posters. They recently built a new store a few miles from me. I was somewhat amused to see most of it come flat packed. I hope the instructions were easy to read. Malcolm
Re: PESO - Fallen Leaf
IKEA markets decor art, in the form of graphics and photographs in large format, poster-quality prints. It's actually a great market to try to get into as a photographer ... hard to get in, of course, but they order accepted images in large volumes, printed on low cost, high production printing engines to a reasonable quality standard. I know a couple of guys who make a hefty chunk of money selling a photo to business like this. Might be worth stopping into the Emeryville IKEA store (on a weekday morning to avoid the crowds... ;-) and poking around, Shel. Godfrey On Oct 22, 2005, at 8:50 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: IKEA means something to me. I know it's a furniture and more store. There's one about 10 miles from my house. It was the reference to the IKEA ~poster~ that I didn't understand. I've never been inside an IKEA store, never seen their wares, and certainly am unfamiliar with their posters.
Re: Remove
Now, click your lens caps to gether, twice and repeat after me: Thers no place like Canon lists, theres no place like Canon lists..,vbg Dave This reminds of that kind of fairy tale where you must say exactly the right word to make the miracle happen, and people try and try and try... Pancho
RE: PhotoVista 3.5 vs. PTAssembler
Congrats, Herb. I may check it out too. I would appreciate if you sometime can post paoramas made with this, preferably compared to sstitches done with Photovista. They may blend differently. PTA blends by morphing (if you want it to). PhotoVista blends by making a finger-like assembly between the images. That's the reason why the assemby-lines are not visible - they are really zig-zag lines. Also this is the reason why floatating objects or half persons may occur in the final image - showing legs of a moving person in one place and the torso in another. Regards Jens http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 22. oktober 2005 14:57 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: PhotoVista 3.5 vs. PTAssembler the nodal point adapter would not have made a difference. Stitcher Express would have done it flawlessly. whenever i have buildings and straight lines, that is what i use. i just tried the new Panorama Factory 4.0 and bought it. it supports 16-bit TIFF files as input and does a good job of blending. 16-bit input is really important to me. Herb - Original Message - From: Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 8:31 AM Subject: RE: PhotoVista 3.5 vs. PTAssembler Thanks a lot for commenting. I can't say that PTA works flawlessly all the time. Sometimes it even does very strange things. I guess I'm too much of a beginner right now. But I do know, that I could not stitch the shown image flawlessly in PhotoVista. It keept making small errors in stitching the buildings (some lines didn't intersect properly), which I had to correct later in PS. Parlty due to the fact that i did not use a Nodal Point adapter.
Re: Beginner's photo software for Ma
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: iPhoto works fine. The facility to burn a CD within the application is NOT intended to create a CD for output to a print service ... the Help does not make that clear. It is intended as a way to archive your photos for iPhoto's use, so it retains all of the (rather overly complex) iPhoto database directory structure. The correct way to make a CD to bring to a printer is to select all the photos you want to send and use the Export command to write them to a folder. Then you exit iPhoto, stick in a blank CD ... The Finder mounts a virtual disk image, you drag your folder to it and say burn. A few minutes later, you have a CD which is 100% Mac OS and Windows compatible with a folder full of properly named JPEG image files. That's what you should tell your computer noob clients, and show them how to do it if you can. It will make your life a lot easier. Okay, Godfrey, what's a noob client? keith Regards other, low-cost solutions for image editing/management on Mac OS X ... There are quite a few, but all of them are more complex to understand and use. There are several in the shareware/freeware domain, a number of commercial products. Go take a look at http:// www.versiontracker.com/macosx/ and search on photo, photo edit, image catalog etc. But iPhoto does a lot for the noob, does it well, is easy to use, and costs nothing. It's not a photo enthusiast's tool of choice. Godfrey
Re: Beginner's photo software for Ma
Bertil Holmberg wrote: This is exactly what I meant when I said iPhoto is a memory hog. It takes my 1GHz 1GB PB a minut of hard disk activety to recover after a photo editing session with iPhoto and PS. And that's a long time to wait when you just want to go back to your email. Sure, I could use a Power Mac, but I don't want a nine fan windtunnel in my bedroom. I have a Power Mac and can hardly hear the fan. If I step to the doorway, the sound almost disappears! It's a MDD G4, but just to show you there are some quiet ones out there. I know nothing of the G5s and their noise... keith whaley [...] Bertil
Re: Beginner's photo software for Ma
On 22 Oct 2005 at 9:10, keith_w wrote: Okay, Godfrey, what's a noob client? http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=noob Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Small Pentax K lens test
Ahhh 5:7 not 5x7 ... OK, that clears that up. Thanks for the info - very helpful. I owe you a Mocha Latte Cafe Half Caf Grande LOL Shel [Original Message] From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Think pixels, Shel. 5:7 is a proportion, not a dimension like 5x7. [] To make a 10x14 print using the 2000x3000 pixels available without upsampling, you need to print at 200 ppi. This will print an image of 2000x2800 pixels: the crop means you are losing a 200 pixel wide strip off the long dimension.
Re: Cesar and Cotty do Oxford
On 21/10/05, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: god help britain! g S - he's listening ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO - Fallen Leaf
Base on the opinions of some of my pics, I might do very well ;-)) It's been on the back burner to get over to the Emeryville store. Someone mentioned that they have an interesting stock of Scandinavian food, with a specific reference to herring ;-)) Shel [Original Message] From: Godfrey DiGiorgi IKEA markets decor art, in the form of graphics and photographs in large format, poster-quality prints. It's actually a great market to try to get into as a photographer ... hard to get in, of course, but they order accepted images in large volumes, printed on low cost, high production printing engines to a reasonable quality standard. I know a couple of guys who make a hefty chunk of money selling a photo to business like this. Might be worth stopping into the Emeryville IKEA store (on a weekday morning to avoid the crowds... ;-) and poking around, Shel.
Re: Beginner's photo software for Ma
Rob Studdert wrote: On 22 Oct 2005 at 9:10, keith_w wrote: Okay, Godfrey, what's a noob client? http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=noob Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Hah! From that dictionary, I found this statement, in definition: Generally, however, people use 'noob' as an applicable insult for anyone who happens to piss them off. A person will also often use this term to describe people that they feel are beneath them. Uh huh. Now I get it! ;-) keith
Re: Beginner's photo software for Ma
On 22/10/05, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: To be fair to iPhoto, the guy is totally computer illiterate, and really doesn't want to know this stuff, Hmmm, sounds familiar !! Okay, you win. Hey, I don't even use it, I find it too cumbersome. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Self Portrait?
To me the thing is that when it gets that way you know you are near the edge, with that fancy traction control you don't. Just because the robot feedback seems stable does not mean you have any more reserve cornering power than when driving manually. I would rather be scared, I may slow down then rather than crash. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- keith_w wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: True enough of the classic Bimmers. Contemporary BMWs with stability control and traction control do fine. That's pretty much true of any rear driver. Without an extremely talented driver or an equally talented computer, they can be a handful in the rain. That being said, I drove a 340 horsepower Chrysler 300C in the rain on Chrysler's test track up in Auburn Hills. It has a stability control system based on the Mercedes electronics. Try as I might, I couldn't get it to stumble even on wet pavement with the pedal to the metal. With the system switched off, keeping it on the straight and narrow required a very delicate touch, and I found I couldn't equal the performance of the electronics using just my brain and my foot. Paul Very interesting data point, Paul. In a Chrysler, no less! How things have changed... keith whaley [...]
Re: Beginner's photo software for Ma
On 22/10/05, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: BTW: At my job doing digital photography and restoration work at the photo store, I used Macs exclusively because that's what they had at this store. I am quite familiar with using Macs, though not the latest version of OS X (whatissit, calico or something? g) Stick to commercial voice-overs ;- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Beginner's photo software for Ma
On 10/22/05 11:13 AM, keith_w [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure, I could use a Power Mac, but I don't want a nine fan windtunnel in my bedroom. I would add that my dual G5 is pretty damn quiet. Much quieter than my older G4 was. Now, granted when the fans kick in with heavy processing it does get more noisy, but for 80% of the time, the G5 is much more quiet than the G4 was. -Holly
Re: OT: Ibook?
On 10/22/05, cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does it make any sense to have an apple laptop If I've already got a PC desktop? Other have answered already, but let me add: the only problem I see is that after using OS X for a while you won't want to use the PC anymore. I have a desktop Dell, but my main computer is a 12' Powerbook. I turn on the Dell only when I need to scan film (SCSI scanner). The PC is not even online anymore. So go for it, it might well be that you won't ever buy another Windows machine :) j -- Juan Buhler http://www.jbuhler.com photoblog at http://photoblog.jbuhler.com
RE: Small Pentax K lens test
Very intersting and well done test, Jerry. But why do you call it a K-lens test. There's no K-lenses involved, is there? Regards Jens Bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Jarek Dabrowski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 21. oktober 2005 03:38 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Small Pentax K lens test Hello, Just after purchasing DS - I decided to check it by running a small comparison between all the lenses that I currently have in my drawer :) I know that especially wide lenses are usually worse on digital body, thank on film, but the results are pretty interesting. Lenses compared: - SMC-DA 18-55/3.5-5.6 - SMC-FA 20-35/4 AL - SMC-FA 35/2 AL - SMC-FA 50/1.4 - SMC-F 50/2.8 Macro - Tamron SP XR Di 28-75/2.8 Enjoy: http://www.dojarek.com/pktest/index_en.html Jerry
Re: Cesar and Cotty do Oxford
Hide the women and children. Norm Cotty wrote: Spoke to the main man tonight on the phone, he's heading up to Oxford in the morning and we're meeting up to do the meander thing. He sounds well, full of beans as he explores Britain on his first trip here. I'll post some pics on Sunday.
Re: Beginner's photo software for Ma
On Oct 22, 2005, at 9:25 AM, keith_w wrote: Rob Studdert wrote: On 22 Oct 2005 at 9:10, keith_w wrote: Okay, Godfrey, what's a noob client? http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=noob Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Hah! From that dictionary, I found this statement, in definition: Generally, however, people use 'noob' as an applicable insult for anyone who happens to piss them off. A person will also often use this term to describe people that they feel are beneath them. Uh huh. Now I get it! ;-) In the lexicon of newbie, I simply used noob as a shorthand phonetic equivalent. I first ran into the term newbie in the context of motorcycling ... a contraction of new biker. Nothing perjorative or disparaging intended. Godfrey
Re: OT: Ibook?
On 10/22/05 10:10, Juan Buhler wrote: The PC is not even online anymore. And this is a very, very good thing... :) Tim
Re: Small Pentax K lens test
Perhaps you can schedule payback for a day next week in SF. I was in the city all day yesterday, went to the de Young (wonderful!) and garnered a bunch of interesting exposures to work on. Wouldn't mind a good excuse to head back again. :-) Godfrey PS: The newly rebuilt de Young Museum is definitely worth the trip. It's not cheap to get in (about $10-15) but there are some excellent exhibits, and the photo opportunities around the museum grounds and in the local 9th and Irving neighborhood are great. On Oct 22, 2005, at 9:21 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Ahhh 5:7 not 5x7 ... OK, that clears that up. Thanks for the info - very helpful. I owe you a Mocha Latte Cafe Half Caf Grande LOL Shel [Original Message] From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Think pixels, Shel. 5:7 is a proportion, not a dimension like 5x7. [] To make a 10x14 print using the 2000x3000 pixels available without upsampling, you need to print at 200 ppi. This will print an image of 2000x2800 pixels: the crop means you are losing a 200 pixel wide strip off the long dimension.
Re: Cesar and Cotty do Oxford
With Cotty involved, God will have little or nothing to do with in... frank theriault wrote: On 10/21/05, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Spoke to the main man tonight on the phone, he's heading up to Oxford in the morning and we're meeting up to do the meander thing. He sounds well, full of beans as he explores Britain on his first trip here. I'll post some pics on Sunday. god help britain! g -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
