RE: OT: My book is in
Looks good. -- Cheers, Bob > -Original Message- > From: Juan Buhler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 27 April 2006 02:58 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: OT: My book is in > > On 4/26/06, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I didn't get Juan's original post. What did you say, Juan? Were you > > happy with the quality? > > Funny, it seems like the list is having trouble. > > Can you hear me now? > > :) > > > Hello all, > > Sorry to spam the list again with this, but I though you guys > would like to see it. And all the photos in the book were > taken with an istD, so it is not *that* OT... > > I got the first proof of my book today. The price went a bit > over what I had planned, because I added a faux suede gloved > spine. So I'll have to price it at $60. I will give the PDML > a discount, will post about it on Friday. Also, it will be a > limited edition of 200, numbered and signed. > > Photos of the book are here: > > http://www.jbuhler.com/buy/book.html > > (the order links are dead for now--so this is not a FS post! :) > > For those of you coming to my opening this Friday, I will of > course have the book there. > > Let me know what you think, and thanks all who responded to > the previous thread for your support! > > j > > > > > On Apr 26, 2006, at 9:42 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote: > > > > > Congratulations, Juan. > > > > > > Joe > > > > > > ssed the or > > > > > > > -- > Juan Buhler > Water Molotov: http://photoblog.jbuhler.com Slippery Slope: > http://color.jbuhler.com > > > >
Re: PESO - Lucky Peak Great Blue Heron
> > From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/04/26 Wed PM 09:33:58 GMT > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: PESO - Lucky Peak Great Blue Heron > > I stopped at my favorite wild bird spot on the way to work today. I had only > planned to spend 5 minutes but it turned into a half hour. > > I was on the wrong side of the Heron light-wise. It was down over the edge > in a spot enabling me to disappear out of sight above it while I walked > around to where the light was mostly behind me, and then reappear for the > shots. This is the first I've processed. Its from about 40 feet away and > is a 2/3 crop of the original. > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4384567 > > Tom C. You have very tame Herons. In the UK, getting closer than about 200yards would be very lucky. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: Re: List Question
> > From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/04/26 Wed PM 11:08:04 GMT > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: List Question > > Well THAT'S STUPID! One would think the software would be smart enough to > see that the header line had changed and start a new thread. Do you mean > I've been screwing up the archives all these years and know one here has > SCREAMED THEIR HEAD OFF at me? > > Tom C. You're not the only one... > > > > > >From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > >To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > >Subject: Re: List Question > >Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 19:16:47 -0400 > > > >Properly formated threads don't depend on the subject line. Properly > >formed threads use the "in reply to" field, in the message header IIRC. > > > >Tom C wrote: > > > >>I, as many others are having problems receiving all the messages fron the > >>list, often not my own. I'm not blaming this on any of the PDML list > >>inner workings. Is is in general aggravating. > >> > >>I am curious though... Sometimes I'll reply to an existing PDML e-mail in > >>order to have the > >>pentax-discuss@pdml.net appear automatically in the To: field. I then > >>erase the body of the message and substitute my own subject line. > >>However, when I look in the archives, I see my sent message embedded in > >>the earlier thread ***even though the subject line has changed***. > >> > >> > >>Tom C. > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > >-- > >When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). > > > > > - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: Re: PESO new baby
> > From: David Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/04/27 Thu AM 06:08:34 GMT > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: PESO new baby > > On Apr 27, 2006, at 8:31 AM, mike wilson wrote: > > > Not what we were expecting: > > > > http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/channel/54/extra/new/display/ > > 5529649 > > It can't be Zippy without the zip. > > He was definitely my favourite character on the show... > > - Dave 8-) Just added to and corrected some of the details. Cath took it with the Tamron 90/2.5(Kmount adaptall) in "green" mode. When you think of the chances of it coming out properly in those circumstances... Next, Bungle. George blew out of the window on a motorway. 8-(( m - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: PESO new baby
On 26/4/06, Sylwester Pietrzyk, discombobulated, unleashed: >It resembles somewhat you, Mike doesn't it? :-) LOL He has a point ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
RE: PESO - The Texan
I wish the bottle growing down from his chin was half an inch lower. The bottle it self improves the composition, but I don't like that it has contact with the chin. If moved down a bit, it makes a good line leading the eye to the guys face. There's is one more thing. I don't like the circles left to his hat. Looks like you have been too hasty with a clone tool there. Generally I like the picture. In other words, some extra work on it might pay off. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > -Original Message- > From: Gonz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 25. april 2006 07:05 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: PESO - The Texan > > Opinions needed. Do the bottles take too much away from the image? Is > it worth doing PS work to remove at least the one on the left? > > http://www.g0nz.com/images/thetexan.html > > Thanks in advance, > > rg >
RE: PESO - Jelly Bellies
I hear the slow waltz :-) Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 25. april 2006 16:40 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: PESO - Jelly Bellies > > I feel I shouldn't just dump PESOs out there without making a few comments > on > others'. But a bit busy with Mom. However, I'll try to make some comments > soon. > > Again, following Bruce's suggestions for camera settings for the Monterey > Bay > Aquarium, I shot a lot of jelly fish. I felt there should have been some > slow > classical music on the background, maybe a waltz, to go a long with their > graceful, slow movement. > > None are super sharp, but some are a tad sharper than others. I may throw > up > a jellyfish gallery next week. The have a tad more impact when taken > together, > and they would also probably display well on that way too. Say, a group of > four or so. > > 1600, 50mm, 2.8, about 1/15 of a second, and accidentally shot JPG rather > than RAW (because the no flash setting on my camera did that without my > awareness > of it) > > This is not the sharpest, not the worse, not the best, but I liked the > juxtaposition of the two. > > Remember shot through, glass, water, and with a large f stop. > > http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/jellies.htm > > Comments, welcome. > > Marnie aka Doe >
RE: PESO - Woman With Dog Eating Lunch
I smiled back to her. The shot is spontaneous, direct, and it does work. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > -Original Message- > From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 25. april 2006 19:40 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: PESO - Woman With Dog Eating Lunch > > Just a little QuikSnap with the old Sony DSC-S85. > > http://home.earthlink.net/~shel-pix/wwd_eating_lunch.html > > Shel > > >
RE: PESO - Lucky Peak Great Blue Heron
Good catch Tom. I think everything works well here. BTW. To get this close to a Grey Heron (that's the most common specie we have) here in Norway, it has to been stuffed. It makes me wonder. Is it because your Herons are near tamed, or is a specimental (I had to invent a word here) differences? Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > -Original Message- > From: Tom C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 26. april 2006 23:34 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: PESO - Lucky Peak Great Blue Heron > > I stopped at my favorite wild bird spot on the way to work today. I had > only > planned to spend 5 minutes but it turned into a half hour. > > I was on the wrong side of the Heron light-wise. It was down over the > edge > in a spot enabling me to disappear out of sight above it while I walked > around to where the light was mostly behind me, and then reappear for the > shots. This is the first I've processed. Its from about 40 feet away and > is a 2/3 crop of the original. > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4384567 > > Tom C. > >
RE: PESO - Just A Tree (Lone Cypress Envy)
It makes me think about the tree shepherds in the Ring of the Lords. I could imagine this tree walking around. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 26. april 2006 04:15 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: PESO - Just A Tree (Lone Cypress Envy) > > Shot on 17-mile drive in Monterey (which overall was a somewhat of a > disappointment). > > There was a wooden platform built near the Lone Cypress that one could > walk > out onto to get a closer shot. But the Lone Cypress had a stone wall > around the > bottom and wires holding it up, so it didn't look at all natural. (One > could > take it from across the mini-bay where it might look more so.) > > This tree was at the edge of the platform and I liked its shape and also > felt > sorry for it. I mean, the Lone Cypress gets all the press. :-) > > Shot RAW. A tad soft, but I was shooting into the sun, and used > Shadows/Highlights to lighten it up. Maybe too much. I wonder if I should > clone out the > twigs of another tree on the lower right? Nyah, probably not important > enough to > bother. > > Anyone, no one else has to like it, because I do. :-) > > http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/justatree.htm > > But comments still welcome. > > Marnie aka Doe ;-) Funny, I have made some comments on others' PESOs but > only one has shown up on list so far. >
Re: RE: PESO - Lucky Peak Great Blue Heron
> > From: Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/04/27 Thu AM 09:39:54 GMT > To: > Subject: RE: PESO - Lucky Peak Great Blue Heron > > Good catch Tom. I think everything works well here. > > BTW. To get this close to a Grey Heron (that's the most common specie we > have) here in Norway, it has to been stuffed. > It makes me wonder. Is it because your Herons are near tamed, or is a > specimental (I had to invent a word here) differences? > > > Tim > Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) > > Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds > (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) It's too full of Wendys, BigMacs and jelly donuts to fly. 8-)) > > > -Original Message- > > From: Tom C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 26. april 2006 23:34 > > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > > Subject: PESO - Lucky Peak Great Blue Heron > > > > I stopped at my favorite wild bird spot on the way to work today. I had > > only > > planned to spend 5 minutes but it turned into a half hour. > > > > I was on the wrong side of the Heron light-wise. It was down over the > > edge > > in a spot enabling me to disappear out of sight above it while I walked > > around to where the light was mostly behind me, and then reappear for the > > shots. This is the first I've processed. Its from about 40 feet away and > > is a 2/3 crop of the original. > > > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4384567 > > > > Tom C. > > > > > > > > > - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: PESO new baby
On Apr 27, 2006, at 8:25 PM, mike wilson wrote: 8-) Just added to and corrected some of the details. Cath took it with the Tamron 90/2.5(Kmount adaptall) in "green" mode. When you think of the chances of it coming out properly in those circumstances... Next, Bungle. George blew out of the window on a motorway. 8-(( I'd better add that I picked up a Zippy of my own the moment I saw one in a shop in Bognor. Not sure if he was the only character they had. http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/temp/zippy.jpg http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/temp/zippy_zipped.jpg - Dave (gotta go, Drop In NZ is about to start)
RE: PESO: All Hands Starboard!
Adorable is the right word for it. About the electric outlet: You may need it later, so my advice is to leave it there. If you decide to move it, don't do it as DIY job, hire an electrician ;-) Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 26. april 2006 04:20 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: PESO: All Hands Starboard! > > In a message dated 4/25/2006 4:07:50 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4380996 > === > Adorable, Paul. I do find the electrical outlet a tad distracting. Don't > know > whether it's worth it to you to remove it, but I think it would improve > the > photo. > > Anyway, simply adorable. > > Marnie aka Doe :-) >
Re: PESO - trees in the park
I agree with your assessment. With this kind of shot, where all the subject objects are the same, the foreground should usually be in focus. Anything else simply comes across as a mistake. Paul On Apr 26, 2006, at 11:21 PM, Scott Loveless wrote: Taken a couple weeks ago at a nearby park. Kodachrome 200. I'm not thrilled with the out of focus trees in the foreground, but I would be interested in hearing your thoughts. Thanks for looking! http://twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=414 -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- "You have to hold the button down" -Arnold Newman
Re: PESO - Lucky Peak Great Blue Heron
Nice one. You might crop a bit of water off the top, but that's perhaps a personal preference. Good work. Paul On Apr 27, 2006, at 3:40 AM, mike wilson wrote: From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 2006/04/26 Wed PM 09:33:58 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Lucky Peak Great Blue Heron I stopped at my favorite wild bird spot on the way to work today. I had only planned to spend 5 minutes but it turned into a half hour. I was on the wrong side of the Heron light-wise. It was down over the edge in a spot enabling me to disappear out of sight above it while I walked around to where the light was mostly behind me, and then reappear for the shots. This is the first I've processed. Its from about 40 feet away and is a 2/3 crop of the original. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4384567 Tom C. You have very tame Herons. In the UK, getting closer than about 200yards would be very lucky. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: OT: My book is in
I was reading your page about your book and broke down laughing. dark grey faux swede gloved spine. Bob
RE: gESO: What we've seen so far
Too many photos to make real comments. But generally it is WOW! A lot of good shots, and really some real good one. Looks like you and the DS are in for a long term relation. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > -Original Message- > From: Francis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 26. april 2006 06:58 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: gESO: What we've seen so far > > My DS arrived about three weeks ago and since then we've been having a > simply wonderful honeymoon. :) > > http://www.photosynth.ca/photo/f/ds-gallery/ > If you feel so inclined, when you're done enjoying/enduring, please > share your honest and unreserved opinion of the photos. > > Thanks for looking, > Francis > > > There are two kinds of crazy people: the ones that know they're crazy, > and everyone else. >
Re: My book is in
Congrats, Juan. Looks good. You got a mention in Mike Johnson's blog too. But you probably already know that. http://theonlinephotographer.blogspot.com/2006_04_01_theonlinephotographer_archive.html Markus Maurer wrote: Hi Juan Congratulations for your book, and I like your photos! greetings Markus Photos of the book are here: http://www.jbuhler.com/buy/book.html (the order links are dead for now--so this is not a FS post! :) For those of you coming to my opening this Friday, I will of course have the book there. - Juan Buhler -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc
RE: RE: PESO - Lucky Peak Great Blue Heron
I was using the word stuffed, in the meaning dead. To many donuts and such, are more a near death experience ;-) BTW. Now you used a smilie Mike, you are not very consistent with this. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > -Original Message- > From: mike wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 27. april 2006 11:49 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: RE: PESO - Lucky Peak Great Blue Heron > > > > > > From: Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: 2006/04/27 Thu AM 09:39:54 GMT > > To: > > Subject: RE: PESO - Lucky Peak Great Blue Heron > > > > Good catch Tom. I think everything works well here. > > > > BTW. To get this close to a Grey Heron (that's the most common specie we > > have) here in Norway, it has to been stuffed. > > It makes me wonder. Is it because your Herons are near tamed, or is a > > specimental (I had to invent a word here) differences? > > > > > > Tim > > Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) > > > > Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds > > (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > > It's too full of Wendys, BigMacs and jelly donuts to fly. > 8-)) > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Tom C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: 26. april 2006 23:34 > > > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > > > Subject: PESO - Lucky Peak Great Blue Heron > > > > > > I stopped at my favorite wild bird spot on the way to work today. I > had > > > only > > > planned to spend 5 minutes but it turned into a half hour. > > > > > > I was on the wrong side of the Heron light-wise. It was down over the > > > edge > > > in a spot enabling me to disappear out of sight above it while I > walked > > > around to where the light was mostly behind me, and then reappear for > the > > > shots. This is the first I've processed. Its from about 40 feet away > and > > > is a 2/3 crop of the original. > > > > > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4384567 > > > > > > Tom C. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > Email sent from www.ntlworld.com > Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software > Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information >
OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity?
Dear gang, I discovered the "need more storage" thread just now, by looking in the archives. Long term storage is a hot topic among my friends over here at the moment, but nobody seems to have any "best practice" to point to. "Nobody" includes me too :-) but I would very much like to establish a good practice for myself. So by googling, and some thinking, I've come down to a list of things to consider. I'm not sure if this is a good list to go by, and would very much like to hear some opinions: 1. Longevity of storage medium (Hard-drive, DVD, etc.) 2. Longevity of the technology used to access the medium (USB, SCSI, etc.) 3. Longevity of software support for the chosen file format (RAW, TIFF, etc.) Then there is: 4. Data safeguarding (backup routines etc.) 5. Data availability (access time to a file) 6. Production volume (number of exposures and edit-files) 7. Convenience 8. Cost (both time and money) By any measure, a solution to cover all this points will be a trade-off between several of them. Convenience and longevity pull in the same direction, for example, while cost pulls the other way. So what do you think? And how do you store your precious moments? Thanks for your thoughts, Jostein This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
RE: PESO - Guys and Phones
I really like how the body "pose" of the persons nearly blends together. Almost like _one_ statue. BTW. Wonder if Boris has a "thing" with feats. Tim, running and ducking. Not always harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > -Original Message- > From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 26. april 2006 19:43 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: PESO - Guys and Phones > > Thanks Paul - again, it was just a matter of simply "overexposing" a bit - > I think 0.7 stop compared to the camera reading. That preserved > highlights > and shadow detail nicely. > > I don't quite understand Boris's need for feet to be in the photo. He's > mentioned his dissatisfaction of cropped feet several times on the list. > > Shel > > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Date: 4/26/2006 3:28:36 AM > > Subject: Re: PESO - Guys and Phones > > > > Good composition, good conversion. I like the way you've managed to > > retain good shadow detail on the face of the man in the foreground. > > Paul > > > > PS: You're going to have to answer to Boris and his camera club for > > cropping those feet :-))!! > > > > On Apr 26, 2006, at 1:27 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > > > > http://home.earthlink.net/~shel-pix/2cellguys.html > > > > > > Made using the istDS and the K135/2.5 - converted in PS CS using > double > > > Hue/Sat technique > > > > > > Shel > > > > > > > > > > >
RE: PESO -- Connecticut Zen III
The first in this series was a bit too "Zenish" for my taste. This and the second photo is more my cup of tea. On this photo I tend to be with Godfrey, it semms to be let down by the conversion. But the composition is very good IMO. A peaceful image made for the wall. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > -Original Message- > From: P. J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 26. april 2006 08:08 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: PESO -- Connecticut Zen III > > I've got a few more in the Connecticut Zen series, I've decided to > process them as B&W and I particularly like this one, (which of course > means that it will be universally panned). However here it is: > > http://www.mindspring.com/~megazip/PESO_--_connzen3.html > > Tech Info: > Pentax *ist-Ds ISO 200 @ 1/640sec > Some M or K lens probably the 85mm f2.0 @ about f8.0 > > -- > When you're worried or in doubt, > Run in circles, (scream and shout). >
Re: OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity?
So far, a back up onto a 120 gig Maxtor as well as a CD or DVD burn.For small files a CD burn and for larger files a DVD burn, so i have them backed up twice. With shooting Pef's and Nef's it does not take long to get a large folder, so its mostly Maxtor and DVD now. I'm thinking now that i have Apple and isync, i might just put my really good favorites there to. Dave > > > So what do you think? And how do you store your precious moments? > > Thanks for your thoughts, > Jostein > > > > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. >
RE: RE: PESO - Lucky Peak Great Blue Heron
> > From: Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/04/27 Thu AM 10:36:03 GMT > To: > Subject: RE: RE: PESO - Lucky Peak Great Blue Heron > > I was using the word stuffed, in the meaning dead. > To many donuts and such, are more a near death experience ;-) > > BTW. Now you used a smilie Mike, you are not very consistent with this. I blame lack of sleep. > > > Tim > Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) > > Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds > (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > > > -Original Message- > > From: mike wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 27. april 2006 11:49 > > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > > Subject: Re: RE: PESO - Lucky Peak Great Blue Heron > > > > > > > > > > From: Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Date: 2006/04/27 Thu AM 09:39:54 GMT > > > To: > > > Subject: RE: PESO - Lucky Peak Great Blue Heron > > > > > > Good catch Tom. I think everything works well here. > > > > > > BTW. To get this close to a Grey Heron (that's the most common specie we > > > have) here in Norway, it has to been stuffed. > > > It makes me wonder. Is it because your Herons are near tamed, or is a > > > specimental (I had to invent a word here) differences? > > > > > > > > > Tim > > > Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) > > > > > > Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds > > > (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > > > > It's too full of Wendys, BigMacs and jelly donuts to fly. > > 8-)) > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: Tom C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: 26. april 2006 23:34 > > > > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > > > > Subject: PESO - Lucky Peak Great Blue Heron > > > > > > > > I stopped at my favorite wild bird spot on the way to work today. I > > had > > > > only > > > > planned to spend 5 minutes but it turned into a half hour. > > > > > > > > I was on the wrong side of the Heron light-wise. It was down over the > > > > edge > > > > in a spot enabling me to disappear out of sight above it while I > > walked > > > > around to where the light was mostly behind me, and then reappear for > > the > > > > shots. This is the first I've processed. Its from about 40 feet away > > and > > > > is a 2/3 crop of the original. > > > > > > > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4384567 > > > > > > > > Tom C. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > Email sent from www.ntlworld.com > > Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software > > Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information > > > > > > > - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: OT - Dumb PayPal Question
John, The credit card company is not really on your side. Your bank is, I think, because of banking laws. You don't want to test the system, like when the bank transfered $5,348 to a Frenchman for me, instead of the $53.48 I had requested. It took 10 days to refresh my account!!! Regards, Bob S. On 4/27/06, John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 10:23:21PM -0500, Bob Sullivan wrote: > > After $2,000 in credit card purchases, they want you to register a bank > > account. > > Listening to other people's comments about bad transactions, I don't > > use Paypal any more. > > Me too. They aren't getting access to my bank accounts - period. > I've still got a little buffer left on that $2,000 limit, so I still > occasionally use PayPal if a seller absolutely insists. But that's > becuse I'm pretty confident that my credit card company will help out > if it comes to a dispute with PayPal. I don't trust my bank that > much, though (especially after the most recent round of idiocies). > >
Re: OT - Dumb PayPal Question
Boris, Small purchases (under $75US), I use cash - Euros or Pounds. Larger amounts will be a US Postal Money order in their currency. Bank transfers are possible, complicated, and cost me $20+ each. I avoid using these. Regards, Bob S. On 4/26/06, Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! > > > After $2,000 in credit card purchases, they want you to register a bank > > account. > > Listening to other people's comments about bad transactions, I don't > > use Paypal any more. The scam is for the buyer to pay with paypal > > then claim a defect to ebay and get a refund... from paypal. Not a > > good idea to have somebody who can debit your account. Regards, Bob > > Bob, what do you use instead of PayPal if you have to send funds abroad, > especially to Europe? > > Boris > >
Re: OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity?
This looks interesting: http://www.imaginginfo.com/article/article.jsp?siteSection=3&id=1641
Re: OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity?
Thanks Dave, How long do you expect your backup copies to last? Jostein Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > So far, a back up onto a 120 gig Maxtor as well as a CD or DVD burn.For small > files a CD > burn and for > larger files a DVD burn, so i have them backed up twice. > > With shooting Pef's and Nef's it does not take long to get a large folder, so > its mostly > Maxtor and DVD > now. > I'm thinking now that i have Apple and isync, i might just put my really good > favorites > there to. > > Dave > > > > > > > So what do you think? And how do you store your precious moments? > > > > Thanks for your thoughts, > > Jostein > > > > > > > > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > > > > > > > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity?
Very interesting indeed. Long-life media is a good start. If even the minimum estimate of 80 years holds, media lifetime will not be the limiting factor. Second question: Will there be any CD-R readers to go round in 80 years from now? Personal computers have been with us for 25 years, and we've already passed through several generations of storage media that can no longer be read by mainstream computers. Jostein Quoting Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > This looks interesting: > http://www.imaginginfo.com/article/article.jsp?siteSection=3&id=1641 > > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity?
On 4/27/06, Jostein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Second question: Will there be any CD-R readers to go round in 80 years from > now? Probably only in museums & landfill. > Personal computers have been with us for 25 years, and we've already passed > through several generations of storage media that can no longer be read by > mainstream computers. > > Jostein > True. But there is usually a transition period where you can copy your data to whatever new storage medium is coming through. Dave S
Re: List Question
Tom C wrote: Well THAT'S STUPID! One would think the software would be smart enough to see that the header line had changed and start a new thread. Sometimes you want to change the subject line but keep to the old thread - eg I sometimes add "OT:" to the start of the subject if my reply is off-topic for the list but still part of that thread. Basically, if you're not replying to an email, don't hit "reply"! :-) Do you mean I've been screwing up the archives all these years and know one here has SCREAMED THEIR HEAD OFF at me? I don't like to lecture people about netiquette ;-) OTOH, Shel's email client does something weird for him - his replies often start new threads... S
Re: OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity?
Storage is not just for computers any more. When CD's came out the vinyl record disappeared, you can still get record players. Computers have become so tied up with the whole multi-media thing that they NEED to maintain compatibility with people's CD and DVD collections. My DVD collection is only about 100 or so, but I know people with over 500 DVD's and countless CDs. The cost of conversion is prohibitive and unless compatibility is maintained then take up of any new technology will be slow. Manufacturers don't want this so for a minor increase in cost they will build in the compatibility - until the content suppliers come up with a new way of licensing the content (and that is happening as we speak too). For the record I back up to CD, DVD and keep a hard drive copy. Every 12 months or so I go back and randomly check the CD's and DVD's to make sure that they are still readable. My early digital stuff is on 2 CD's rather than a CD and DVD, but it is on one gold CD and one silver CD, because no one could tell me what the difference between them was. Leon http://www.bluering.org.au http://www.bluering.org.au/leon Jostein wrote: Very interesting indeed. Long-life media is a good start. If even the minimum estimate of 80 years holds, media lifetime will not be the limiting factor. Second question: Will there be any CD-R readers to go round in 80 years from now? Personal computers have been with us for 25 years, and we've already passed through several generations of storage media that can no longer be read by mainstream computers. Jostein Quoting Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: This looks interesting: http://www.imaginginfo.com/article/article.jsp?siteSection=3&id=1641 This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity?
This one time, at band camp, Jostein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Nobody" includes me too :-) but I would very much like to establish > a good practice for myself. I keep all my negatives in nice safe box. Kevin -- "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."
Re: OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity?
That's ducky, but who will have equipment to read a DVD in 300 years??? Rick --- Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This looks interesting: > http://www.imaginginfo.com/article/article.jsp?siteSection=3&id=1641 > > http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Re: OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity?
> > From: Leon Altoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/04/27 Thu PM 12:59:58 GMT > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity? > > Storage is not just for computers any more. > > When CD's came out the vinyl record disappeared, you can still get > record players. > > Computers have become so tied up with the whole multi-media thing that > they NEED to maintain compatibility with people's CD and DVD > collections. My DVD collection is only about 100 or so, but I know > people with over 500 DVD's and countless CDs. The cost of conversion is > prohibitive and unless compatibility is maintained then take up of any > new technology will be slow. Manufacturers don't want this so for a > minor increase in cost they will build in the compatibility - until the > content suppliers come up with a new way of licensing the content (and > that is happening as we speak too). That's not necessarily true. Collectors are a minority - most people treated records as a disposable artefact. The way similar people treat CDs and DVDs _because they can_ makes me cringe. They are a manufacturer's joy because they will buy new media (often with the same entertainment as the previous media) and the methodology of utilising it without a second's thought. I have a friend who is a "refuse disposal operative". Until company regulations forbade it, he "collected" his household appliances from work. His music system and other AV was _way_ better than I could afford. People had thrown it out because they didn't like the colour. With that kind of market, there is little incentive for manufacturers to implement compatibility - as we have discovered here. > > For the record I back up to CD, DVD and keep a hard drive copy. Every > 12 months or so I go back and randomly check the CD's and DVD's to make > sure that they are still readable. My early digital stuff is on 2 CD's > rather than a CD and DVD, but it is on one gold CD and one silver CD, > because no one could tell me what the difference between them was. > > Leon > > http://www.bluering.org.au > http://www.bluering.org.au/leon > > > Jostein wrote: > > Very interesting indeed. Long-life media is a good start. > > > > If even the minimum estimate of 80 years holds, media lifetime will not be > > the > > limiting factor. > > > > Second question: Will there be any CD-R readers to go round in 80 years from > > now? > > Personal computers have been with us for 25 years, and we've already passed > > through several generations of storage media that can no longer be read by > > mainstream computers. > > > > Jostein > > > > > > Quoting Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > >> This looks interesting: > >> http://www.imaginginfo.com/article/article.jsp?siteSection=3&id=1641 > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > > > > > > > > - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity?
Quoting David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > True. But there is usually a transition period where you can copy your > data to whatever new storage medium is coming through. Exactly. Whatever media one choose, it has to be renewed regularly. Question is how often. Every five years seems to be a good number to me. I gravitate towards this because it's a number that has been mentioned for life-time expectancy of both CD/DVDs and for harddrives, and also because I tend to change computers about every five years. When changing computers, chances are that one would hit the transition period as well, I hope. However, from a consumer perspective I think it sucks big time that you have to migrate your archive every five years to maintain your memories. With film, memories could pass down through generations without much maintenance. I can't imagine anyone wanting to propagate my archive every five years when I'm no longer around. But then again, that could say more about the quality of my photos than anything else...:-) Jostein This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
RE: OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity?
Jostein wrote: > Very interesting indeed. Long-life media is a good start. > > If even the minimum estimate of 80 years holds, media > lifetime will not be the limiting factor. > > Second question: Will there be any CD-R readers to go round > in 80 years from now? > Personal computers have been with us for 25 years, and we've > already passed through several generations of storage media > that can no longer be read by mainstream computers. This sort of question frightens me, as I have stuff I don't want to lose. The more I think about it, the answer was/is to take it on film to begin with. I've got negatives and slides going back many decades and they can't be wiped out by any computer error. We've gone through this many times and a generations films will be lost by mistake in some way or compatibility issue and film etc is more likely to survive at the back of a drawer. Grim. Malcolm
Re: OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity?
On 27 Apr 2006 at 23:41, Kevin Waterson wrote: > This one time, at band camp, Jostein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > "Nobody" includes me too :-) but I would very much like to establish > > a good practice for myself. > > I keep all my negatives in nice safe box. Is it hermetically sealed and what's the fire rating? Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:/home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: PESO - trees in the park
Scott, I agree with you. I enjoy this sort of picture, but placing the plane of focus is always troublesome. I think the only solution is a sturdy tripod and a small aperture. Rick --- Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Taken a couple weeks ago at a nearby park. > Kodachrome 200. I'm not > thrilled with the out of focus trees in the > foreground, but I would be > interested in hearing your thoughts. > > Thanks for looking! > > http://twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=414 > > -- > Scott Loveless > http://www.twosixteen.com > > -- > "You have to hold the button down" -Arnold Newman > > http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: PESO - Lucky Peak Great Blue Heron
Beautiful, Tom. Great colors and nice composition. Rick --- Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I stopped at my favorite wild bird spot on the way > to work today. I had only > planned to spend 5 minutes but it turned into a half > hour. > > I was on the wrong side of the Heron light-wise. It > was down over the edge > in a spot enabling me to disappear out of sight > above it while I walked > around to where the light was mostly behind me, and > then reappear for the > shots. This is the first I've processed. Its from > about 40 feet away and > is a 2/3 crop of the original. > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4384567 > > Tom C. > > > http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: PESO - No Coffee, No Ice Cream ("Street" Photography)
On 4/26/06, Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Get two GIANT steps closer... I think Bob's got the idea here. The people are so small in the frame that they become effectively lost in the photo. They may have interesting body language or whatever, but it's difficult to discern given the scale. I'm surprised that you mentioned the pink curb and shutters, because they're barely visible. Again, there's so little pink visible as to make it inconsequential IMHO. A pleasant enough photo, but it really doesn't "grab" on any level. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity?
Mark Roberts wrote: This looks interesting: http://www.imaginginfo.com/article/article.jsp?siteSection=3&id=1641 - Some time ago when I was backing up to CDs I researched this on the web. The consensus for archival quality seemed to point to the gold CDs made by Mam-a -- a Japanese company, but some of their CDs and DVDs are made in Colorado. I believe they also manufacture in France and Japan. Then last spring when I got a DVD writer, I bought a supply of Mam-a DVDs. These are silver. Mam-a didn't yet produce gold ones. Perhaps they do now. Kodak doesn't manufacture these. They buy them from elsewhere -- probably from Mam-a. Anyway, that's how my photos are currently being archived. Joe
Re: PESO: Old Stone Wall--repost
I like it. Nice detail on the tree trunks and the stone pattern is appealing. Plus i like old fences. Cotty can verify.:-) Dave Quoting Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Sending this again, because after 5 hours it has still not appeared on the list. Three weeks ago we were travelling in Connecticut, and I came upon this classic (but tumbledown) New England stone wall while wandering with my ist D: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4367728 FA 16-45, ISO 400, f/11, and for some reason PE4 isn't showing the shutter speed. All comments welcome. Rick http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Equine Photography in York Region
Re: OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity?
On 27 Apr 2006 at 22:59, Leon Altoff wrote: > Computers have become so tied up with the whole multi-media thing that > they NEED to maintain compatibility with people's CD and DVD > collections. My DVD collection is only about 100 or so, but I know > people with over 500 DVD's and countless CDs. The cost of conversion is > prohibitive and unless compatibility is maintained then take up of any > new technology will be slow. Manufacturers don't want this so for a > minor increase in cost they will build in the compatibility - until the > content suppliers come up with a new way of licensing the content (and > that is happening as we speak too). I too think that CD and at the least DVD media will remain readily readable for some time, I guess at least 25 years and they will be commonplace in computers for the next 10-15 years even if just as a legacy media function of a new multi- disc drive. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:/home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: PESO - i
Super shot Dave Quoting DagT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=232428 Comments are welcome. DagT Equine Photography in York Region
Re: OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity?
General interest photos are stored on a hard drive and backed up to DVD. Important photos are stored on two hard drives and backed up to two DVDs. It's convenient and adequate for my needs. I burn DVDs on a regular basis while doing something else. That way it doesn't become a burden. Paul -- Original message -- From: Jostein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Dear gang, > > I discovered the "need more storage" thread just now, by looking in the > archives. Long term storage is a hot topic among my friends over here > at the moment, but nobody seems to have any "best practice" to point > to. > > "Nobody" includes me too :-) but I would very much like to establish > a good practice for myself. > > So by googling, and some thinking, I've come down to a list of things to > consider. I'm not sure if this is a good list to go by, and would very much > like to hear some opinions: > > 1. Longevity of storage medium (Hard-drive, DVD, etc.) > 2. Longevity of the technology used to access the medium (USB, SCSI, etc.) > 3. Longevity of software support for the chosen file format (RAW, TIFF, etc.) > > Then there is: > 4. Data safeguarding (backup routines etc.) > 5. Data availability (access time to a file) > 6. Production volume (number of exposures and edit-files) > 7. Convenience > 8. Cost (both time and money) > > By any measure, a solution to cover all this points will be a trade-off > between several of them. Convenience and longevity pull in the same > direction, for example, while cost pulls the other way. > > So what do you think? And how do you store your precious moments? > > Thanks for your thoughts, > Jostein > > > > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. >
Re: My book is in
Derby Chang wrote: You got a mention in Mike Johnson's blog too. But you probably already know that. http://theonlinephotographer.blogspot.com/2006_04_01_theonlinephotographer_archive.html - And I see from the same page that Adolf Gasser died recently. When I was a teenager in San Francisco in the 1960s, if you wanted to do photography, his store on Geary Street and Brooks downtown were the places to hang out. I did, and bought what gear I could. Then as now, it was more than I should have bought. Joe
Re: PESO - Jelly Bellies
Nice shot./ Love the rich blue colour. Smidge of motion blur works for this shot. Dave Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This is not the sharpest, not the worse, not the best, but I liked the juxtaposition of the two. Remember shot through, glass, water, and with a large f stop. http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/jellies.htm Comments, welcome. Marnie aka Doe Equine Photography in York Region
Re: PESO -- Connecticut Zen III
Re: http://www.mindspring.com/~megazip/PESO_--_connzen3.html I have been greatly enjoying your Zen series. Thanks, Joe
Re: PESO: All Hands Starboard!
Nice. Pose is great, as is the smile. Dave Quoting Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4380996 Equine Photography in York Region
Re: OT: My book is in
What's so funny about that? Shel > [Original Message] > From: Bob Shell > I was reading your page about your book and broke down laughing. > > > dark grey faux swede gloved spine. > > Bob
Re: OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity?
On Apr 27, 2006, at 9:14 AM, Jostein wrote: Whatever media one choose, it has to be renewed regularly. Question is how often. Every five years seems to be a good number to me. I gravitate towards this because it's a number that has been mentioned for life-time expectancy of both CD/DVDs and for harddrives, and also because I tend to change computers about every five years. When changing computers, chances are that one would hit the transition period as well, I hope. In five years at Photographic Solutions, we watched four storage formats arrive, gain popularity and vanish. I still get calls from people who've heard I have a cartridge DVD-RAM drive who want all their data copied. -Aaron
Re: OT: My book is in
Swede isn't Suede ;-) -Adam Shel Belinkoff wrote: What's so funny about that? Shel [Original Message] From: Bob Shell I was reading your page about your book and broke down laughing. dark grey faux swede gloved spine. Bob
Re: OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity?
It does..look interesting. My skipping style of reading may have missed the method of 'pressing' vs 'burning'. I store all CD's in individual styrene (?) cases, some clear, some colored. I wonder if the colored cases would provide a further light inhibiting advantage. Seems possible. Interesting thread. Jack --- Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This looks interesting: > http://www.imaginginfo.com/article/article.jsp?siteSection=3&id=1641 > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: OT: My book is in
Fake Swedish spine in a glove? Dave S. :-) On 4/27/06, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What's so funny about that? > > Shel > > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Bob Shell > > > I was reading your page about your book and broke down laughing. > > > > > dark grey faux swede gloved spine. > > > > Bob > > >
Re: OT: My book is in
On Apr 27, 2006, at 9:59 AM, Adam Maas wrote: Swede isn't Suede I think the Swedish Chef is a faux Swede. -Aaron
Re: List Question
I don't think it's the mail client. It may be me by doing something similar to what Tom does. There are times when I'll reply to a message that I've read in the archive and use the same subject line. It seems that starts a new thread. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Steve Jolly > OTOH, Shel's email client does something weird for him - his replies > often start new threads...
Re: OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity?
The size of files created by PEFs (and I suppose some other raw formats) doesn't seem particularly large or cumbersome, considering that a scanned color 35mm file is about 140mb or so (Nikon Coolscan, 4000ppi), while a PEF (from the DS) is only about 10mb, and as little as about 1/2 that if converted to DNG. I don't recall people complaining, or commenting, g about large-sized scanned files as much as they do the smaller RAW files. Shel > [Original Message] > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > With shooting Pef's and Nef's it does not take long to get a large folder, so its mostly > Maxtor and DVD > now. > I'm thinking now that i have Apple and isync, i might just put my really good favorites > there to.
Aperture
I'm not terribly interested in mac software, since I don't use it. But I am interested in design processes and quality controls as a part of my day job. I think someone at Apple took their eye off the ball with Aperture. You can learn a lot when things go wrong. I wonder where I can read more on what did go wrong. http://www.thinksecret.com/news/0604aperture.html The UI does look nice though (even if the Ars Technica review says it has serious problems). D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc
Re: OT: My book is in
Ahh ... thanks. I missed that one. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Adam Maas > Swede isn't Suede ;-) > > -Adam > > > Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > >What's so funny about that? > > > >Shel > > > > > > > > > > > >>[Original Message] > >>From: Bob Shell > >> > >> > > > > > > > >>I was reading your page about your book and broke down laughing. > >> > >> > >> > >>>dark grey faux swede gloved spine. > >>> > >>> > >>Bob > >> > >> > > > > > >
Re: OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity?
On Apr 27, 2006, at 10:08 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: I don't recall people complaining, or commenting, g about large-sized scanned files as much as they do the smaller RAW files. Think of me -- the 4000 dpi scans from 6x7 clock in at well over 500mb apiece. What knocks me out is how my couple of years old computer handles these gigantic files with no trouble but runs like a slug if I hand it a 10mb RAW file. Yeah, I know, the RAW file takes a lot more work to display. -Aaron
Re: OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity?
Hi Jostein, To help out with your statistics (and to pass some time) I thought I'd take a shot at a response. I've recently reevaluated my storage situation after deciding I'd like to switch to shooting RAW primarily, and realising my 80gb notebook had run out of space. I've had one 40gb notebook harddisk fail on me once- started clicking and not long after I had to come to terms with losing more than a few shots. I purchased an 80gb 2.5" with external enclosure (usb 2.0 + firewire), and not long after a 80gb Vosonic X'S drive. I now also have a Zoomextreme ZX8 3.5" enclosure (love this thing.. it's aluminium, got it's own large fan and runs fast and quietly) with a 300gb drive inside, firewire and usb2.0, can also be daisychained to other drives- I occasionally link the 2.5" enclosure too. With the firewire, the 300gb drive feels nearly as fast as a 'local' drive, so storage and editing is pretty straightforward. I keep all originals (RAW + small jpg). I'm also going about backing up all photos to CD-Rs.. conventional ones, and I'm about halfway through. I still don't trust DVD-Rs because of a few bad experiences, mainly concerning minor looking scratches (judging by how you'd expect it to affect a CD-R) causing read problems. The 80gb X'S drive I use for extra storage in the field, I'd feel more at ease knowing my files are stored in a medium which doesn't bump in my bag around too often. I haven't really thought about the longevity of the access technology, but as long as there are a couple of options to choose from at any time, e.g. firewire or USB2.0, which are sufficiently fast for my purposes, I'm not too worried. Hmm.. software support for RAW.. quite happy with it at the moment. ACDSee Pro doesn't seem to be as accurate or flexible with my RAW files, but, it's still somewhat new in their software, so I trust they'll try to improve it. PSCS2 does me alright- if anything, my computer's does things a bit too slowly. I think if anything's going to be outdated soon, given me starting to be a bit more demanding towards my resources- it's probably going to be my computer's ability to cope with it all. I'd recommend a good 3.5" drive or two- if you can afford it, why not have a little farm of them. They're bang for buck, convenient, quick, and probably will be relevant for a while. I suppose if you were really bored, you could make a cd collection of it all too, just in case.. maybe even store it somewhere else. CDs are cheap, and I'm pretty sure that if you really wanted.. in 300 years you or someone like you could find some antique cd reader on eBay.. Probably nothing new here, but hope it's useful somehow. Cheers, Ryan - Original Message - From: "Jostein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 9:09 PM Subject: OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity? > > > Dear gang, > > I discovered the "need more storage" thread just now, by looking in the > archives. Long term storage is a hot topic among my friends over here > at the moment, but nobody seems to have any "best practice" to point > to. > > "Nobody" includes me too :-) but I would very much like to establish > a good practice for myself. > > So by googling, and some thinking, I've come down to a list of things to > consider. I'm not sure if this is a good list to go by, and would very much > like to hear some opinions: > > 1. Longevity of storage medium (Hard-drive, DVD, etc.) > 2. Longevity of the technology used to access the medium (USB, SCSI, etc.) > 3. Longevity of software support for the chosen file format (RAW, TIFF, etc.) > > Then there is: > 4. Data safeguarding (backup routines etc.) > 5. Data availability (access time to a file) > 6. Production volume (number of exposures and edit-files) > 7. Convenience > 8. Cost (both time and money) > > By any measure, a solution to cover all this points will be a trade-off > between several of them. Convenience and longevity pull in the same > direction, for example, while cost pulls the other way. > > So what do you think? And how do you store your precious moments? > > Thanks for your thoughts, > Jostein > > > > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > >
Re: OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity?
1) make high quality prints of the stuff you want to keep around forever and put them into high quality storage binders. 2) digital images ... As has been said many times before, the key to storage and archiving of digital images is replication and maintenance, not permanence of the media. Build a good archive schema and maintain it, migrate it to new media as standards change. Godfrey On Apr 27, 2006, at 4:09 AM, Jostein wrote: Dear gang, I discovered the "need more storage" thread just now, by looking in the archives. Long term storage is a hot topic among my friends over here at the moment, but nobody seems to have any "best practice" to point to. "Nobody" includes me too :-) but I would very much like to establish a good practice for myself. So by googling, and some thinking, I've come down to a list of things to consider. I'm not sure if this is a good list to go by, and would very much like to hear some opinions: 1. Longevity of storage medium (Hard-drive, DVD, etc.) 2. Longevity of the technology used to access the medium (USB, SCSI, etc.) 3. Longevity of software support for the chosen file format (RAW, TIFF, etc.) Then there is: 4. Data safeguarding (backup routines etc.) 5. Data availability (access time to a file) 6. Production volume (number of exposures and edit-files) 7. Convenience 8. Cost (both time and money) By any measure, a solution to cover all this points will be a trade- off between several of them. Convenience and longevity pull in the same direction, for example, while cost pulls the other way. So what do you think? And how do you store your precious moments? Thanks for your thoughts, Jostein This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity?
Id does? Why is that? I've not noticed any significant difference between large scanned file and raw files. Maybe it's the software you're computer is having trouble with, not specifically the files. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Aaron Reynolds > Think of me -- the 4000 dpi scans from 6x7 clock in at well over 500mb > apiece. > > What knocks me out is how my couple of years old computer handles these > gigantic files with no trouble but runs like a slug if I hand it a 10mb > RAW file. Yeah, I know, the RAW file takes a lot more work to display. > > -Aaron
Re: PESO: All Hands Starboard!
Thanks to David and all who commented on this pic. The critiques offered led to some worthwhile thought and discussion regarding the difference between studio portraits and candid portraits and how one might choose to process each. Paul -- Original message -- From: David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Nice. > > Pose is great, as is the smile. > > Dave > > Quoting Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4380996 > > > > > > > > Equine Photography in York Region >
Re: OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity?
I store all my photos and scans on a dedicated RAID 5 setup.In my case, I built one using a 3ware card, my old PC, a gig-e card and FreeBSD. Today, I'd probably buy something like the ReadyNAS NV. I make backups to firewire disks and store those off-site. To me, this is the only way to make sure my files survive. Writable optical media cannot be trusted; especially since batches seem to go bad all at once. If one of my drives die, I just feed it another disk and the RAID rebuilds.When the whole thing gets too small (I'm at 1.2 TB), I'll just move it over to the next technology via the network as I did from my old 200GB setup. Great way to recycle your old gear too! This method keeps the bits "alive" and not on a non-accessible DVD somewhere with questionable status. I can also work with the files directly in PS or C1 and not have to screw around with burning another disk. I'm also then up for using the next-gen software; whether it be aperture or lightroom. -Ryan
Email File Overhead
Hi, Sometimes I receive pics as attachments, and I've noticed that the file size shown is often larger - sometimes much larger - than the actual size of the attachment. Yesterday I was sent a 3.1mb file, with no email message but "here it is!" yet I had to download a 4.4mb file. What's up with this? Shel
Re: PESO - Jelly Bellies
Cool. Marnie aka Doe :-) === I hear the slow waltz :-) Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > > Remember shot through, glass, water, and with a large f stop. > > http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/jellies.htm > > Comments, welcome. > > Marnie aka Doe
Re: PESO - Jelly Bellies
Thanks, Dave. I should get a jelly fish gallery up sometime in the next three days. Yes, Boris, I'll show some of the sharper ones. Although none are super sharp -- they were moving, even if somewhat slowly. Marnie == Nice shot./ Love the rich blue colour. Smidge of motion blur works for this shot. Dave Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > This is not the sharpest, not the worse, not the best, but I liked the > juxtaposition of the two. > > Remember shot through, glass, water, and with a large f stop. > > http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/jellies.htm > > Comments, welcome. > > Marnie aka Doe
Re: OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity?
I would hope as lomg as a negative would hold out. I know the longevity numbers thrown out are from lab tests, but i would hope as long as computers are made to read my formats, or atleast give me time to upgrade them to what ever format comes along in the future. 30-50 years would be nice as a start number. Although i keep all my equine shots, and only a fraction are sold, it would not be a disaster for me if after 10 years i could not access them. If no one is interested in 2006, what makes me think they'll be in 2016.:-) However for my personal shots that are recording York Regions farm/barn/landscapes and stuff of my family and cats etc, i'm doing, i would hope the data can be kept forever, and the good ones get printed so that would help in longevity i suppose. Wow,,, what a ramble LOL Dave Dave > > Thanks Dave, > > How long do you expect your backup copies to last? > > Jostein > > > Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > > So far, a back up onto a 120 gig Maxtor as well as a CD or DVD burn.For > > small > > files a CD > > burn and for > > larger files a DVD burn, so i have them backed up twice. > > > > With shooting Pef's and Nef's it does not take long to get a large folder, > > so > > its mostly > > Maxtor and DVD > > now. > > I'm thinking now that i have Apple and isync, i might just put my really > > good > > favorites > > there to. > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > > > > So what do you think? And how do you store your precious moments? > > > > > > Thanks for your thoughts, > > > Jostein > > > > > > > > > > > > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. >
Re: OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity?
Jostein wrote: >Will there be any CD-R readers to go round in 80 years from now? That will probably be determined by things like these gold archival disks: If enough people and institutions use these disks or something like them for long-term storage, then there will be a market for equipment to read them.
Re: OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity?
This one time, at band camp, "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is it hermetically sealed and what's the fire rating? not sure if they are hermitically sealed, but they are sealed. and the fire rating is 2 hours. UL72 Class 350 / ECBS.S says the panel on the back. Kind regards Kevin -- "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."
Re: OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity?
I have my pictures on my desktop hard drive. And since I have a laptop I am thinking of copying pictures I don't want to lose to it as well. I could easily lose 80-90% of my photos. :-) Only some do I really, really like. I make backups of various picture directories to DVDs periodically. I suggested once that hard drives were better for storage than DVDs and was jumped on. But from my experience with computers for 20+ years or so, I find fixed media more reliable than removable media. So I've been thinking of getting an external hard drive as well. I'm just lucky my hard drive hasn't crashed. Hard drives have crashed on me in the past. About two. But most can last a long time. Long enough, anyway, until I upgrade to a newer and bigger drive and then copy stuff to it from the existing hard drive. As a former computer consultant, I used to recommend to people that they do tape backups, because, believe it or not, tape can last a very long time. Then it became harder and harder to find tape drives and I stopped consulting pretty much some time ago. I keep thinking I'd prefer to do tape backups. Maybe I will see if there are some tape drives still around somewhere one of these days. When I am willing to spend more on my camera hobby again. Film, transparencies, tape can last longer than DVDs or hard drives. I ran across this article a while ago. "IBM expert warns of short life span for CDs..." http://www.infoworld.com/article/06/01/10/73755_HNcdlifespan_1.html He's talking about CDs, but I think it applies to DVDs too, to a degree. Probably a large degree. Analog storage will last longer than digital storage. Or something that has more durability, than is similar to other forms of analog storage, will last longer than things like drives that have moving parts, or CDs/DVDs that can degrade due to dye. That is just my opinion. A slightly informed one, but not a highly informed one. Marnie aka Doe :-)
Re: How do you store your precious moments for posterity?
- Original Message - From: "Jostein" Subject: OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity? I still depend on film if it is really important. William Robb
Re: PESO - No Coffee, No Ice Cream ("Street" Photography)
In a message dated 4/27/2006 6:24:04 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think Bob's got the idea here. The people are so small in the frame that they become effectively lost in the photo. They may have interesting body language or whatever, but it's difficult to discern given the scale. I'm surprised that you mentioned the pink curb and shutters, because they're barely visible. Again, there's so little pink visible as to make it inconsequential IMHO. A pleasant enough photo, but it really doesn't "grab" on any level. cheers, frank = Thanks, frank, for commenting. The fact that you did means I earned my brownie points for even trying street photography. :-) Well, it is RAW, so I could crop it a lot, lot, lot, closer. Not sure the detail is there but maybe I'll try it. Yeah, to crop out the waste basket I had to crop off too much curb and shutters (the pink). Let me see if a close up crop makes it better. I think it was only mildly interesting anyway, but we shall see. (The old guy seems to disapprove of the younger guy flirting.) Thanks for looking. http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/nocoffee.htm Marnie aka Doe
Re: PESO - The Texan
Tim Øsleby wrote: I wish the bottle growing down from his chin was half an inch lower. The bottle it self improves the composition, but I don't like that it has contact with the chin. Thanks for the comments. I agree with you about the bottle, I just dont know if the picture is worth the effort to change it. If moved down a bit, it makes a good line leading the eye to the guys face. There's is one more thing. I don't like the circles left to his hat. Looks like you have been too hasty with a clone tool there. Lol. Actually, thats the lens bokeh you are seeing there. Reflections on the bottles in the background. Generally I like the picture. In other words, some extra work on it might pay off. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Gonz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25. april 2006 07:05 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: PESO - The Texan Opinions needed. Do the bottles take too much away from the image? Is it worth doing PS work to remove at least the one on the left? http://www.g0nz.com/images/thetexan.html Thanks in advance, rg -- Someone handed me a picture and said, "This is a picture of me when I was younger." Every picture of you is when you were younger. "...Here's a picture of me when I'm older." Where'd you get that camera man? - Mitch Hedberg
Re: OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity?
Its mostly a jpeg or raw thing for me Shel. My equine work is 99.9% jpeg, so i can get a 3 day weekend on a CD assuming 700mb of data or less. However, if i do my personal shooting over a weekend, i might have enough pef's or nef's to fill 3-4 CD's, so i use dvd's to keep space in my Caselogic holders. Case in point, after GFM last year, it took 5 CD's to back up my pictures. If i had a DVD recorder at that time, i could have put them all on one DVD. It is slow to back up on my PC as its only USB 1 to the Maxtor. Dave > The size of files created by PEFs (and I suppose some other raw formats) > doesn't seem particularly large or cumbersome, considering that a scanned > color 35mm file is about 140mb or so (Nikon Coolscan, 4000ppi), while a PEF > (from the DS) is only about 10mb, and as little as about 1/2 that if > converted to DNG. I don't recall people complaining, or commenting, g > about large-sized scanned files as much as they do the smaller RAW files. > > Shel > > > > > [Original Message] > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > With shooting Pef's and Nef's it does not take long to get a large > folder, so its mostly > > Maxtor and DVD > > now. > > I'm thinking now that i have Apple and isync, i might just put my really > good favorites > > there to. > >
Re: OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity?
On Apr 27, 2006, at 10:27 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Id does? Why is that? I've not noticed any significant difference between large scanned file and raw files. Maybe it's the software you're computer is having trouble with, not specifically the files. Could be -- but regardless, if the computer is too slow to run the software for the one file format and not the other, I'm going to prefer to work with the one that runs faster. Buying a new computer isn't a high priority for me because it would be solely to get more speed when using RAW -- a format that I don't use, because if I'm going for a high quality image I'll be shooting 6x7. The digital stuff is all about turnaround speed for me. (Yes, I realize that a lot of people like to shoot RAW and think my reasons for not shooting RAW are stupid. Hoo-ray. But I cannot wirelessly send off a RAW file between innings very easily -- now that the Rogers Centre has added WiFi for press, I can actually just pop the SD card out of my camera and into my Palm, attach the file to an e-mail and send it right from the camera bay. Progress! Who needs a laptop?) -Aaron
Re: List Question
Tom C wrote: I, as many others are having problems receiving all the messages fron the list, often not my own. I'm not blaming this on any of the PDML list inner workings. Is is in general aggravating. I am curious though... Sometimes I'll reply to an existing PDML e-mail in order to have the pentax-discuss@pdml.net appear automatically in the To: field. I then erase the body of the message and substitute my own subject line. However, when I look in the archives, I see my sent message embedded in the earlier thread ***even though the subject line has changed***. This is because when you hit reply, it automatically embeds a marker indicating that this is a reply and it includes the message id of the message you were replying to so that the email reader at the other end threads it properly. If you want it to appear at the top thread level, you need to create it with "new" not "reply". :) rg Tom C. -- Someone handed me a picture and said, "This is a picture of me when I was younger." Every picture of you is when you were younger. "...Here's a picture of me when I'm older." Where'd you get that camera man? - Mitch Hedberg
Re: PESO - Just A Tree (Lone Cypress Envy)
Hehehehe. You're right. Marnie === It makes me think about the tree shepherds in the Ring of the Lords. I could imagine this tree walking around. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > Anyone, no one else has to like it, because I do. :-) > > http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/justatree.htm > > But comments still welcome.
Re: PESO - Cell Phone Building
Tks ... I vacillated on this one quite a bit, also made several shots with slightly different framing ... your comments are appreciated. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Joseph Tainter > http://home.earthlink.net/~shel-pix/cellbldg.html > > - > > Nice composition and juxtaposition, Shel.
RE: PESO - Woman With Dog Eating Lunch
Thanks, Tim ... Shel > [Original Message] > From: Tim Øsleby > I smiled back to her. > The shot is spontaneous, direct, and it does work. > > Just a little QuikSnap with the old Sony DSC-S85. > > > > http://home.earthlink.net/~shel-pix/wwd_eating_lunch.html
Re: OT: My book is in
On Apr 27, 2006, at 9:54 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: What's so funny about that? I found the idea of a fake Swede pretty funny at the time. Bob
RE: PESO - Guys and Phones
Your comments are appreciated. This was another about which I was unsure. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Tim Øsleby > I really like how the body "pose" of the persons nearly > blends together. Almost like _one_ statue. > > http://home.earthlink.net/~shel-pix/2cellguys.html
Re: OT - Dumb PayPal Question
I use a credit card exclusively (through the "Are you sure" process),
unless the seller demands a non-credit card transaction. But I keep a
separate cheapo bank account at a different bank with a small amount of
money in it just to keep it active. I transfer money in and out as needed.
Unca Mikey wrote:
Not a direct answer to your question, but I would never use my bank
account to pay for anything via PayPal. I always use a credit card,
since it is much safer -- PayPal makes you go through a couple of extra
silly steps ("Are you *sure* you want to use a credit card?") but it's
pretty easy.
And when I receive money, I move it from PayPal to my bank account
immediately. I never let money sit in the PayPal account.
*>UncaMikey
--
Someone handed me a picture and said, "This is a picture of me when I
was younger." Every picture of you is when you were younger. "...Here's
a picture of me when I'm older." Where'd you get that camera man?
- Mitch Hedberg
Re: OT: My book is in
I just fixed it. Sorry I typed "Swede" without a capital. :) On 4/27/06, Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Apr 27, 2006, at 9:54 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > > What's so funny about that? > > > I found the idea of a fake Swede pretty funny at the time. > > Bob > > -- Juan Buhler Water Molotov: http://photoblog.jbuhler.com Slippery Slope: http://color.jbuhler.com
Re: RE: PESO - Lucky Peak Great Blue Heron
From: mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > From: Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/04/27 Thu AM 09:39:54 GMT > To: > Subject: RE: PESO - Lucky Peak Great Blue Heron > > Good catch Tom. I think everything works well here. > > BTW. To get this close to a Grey Heron (that's the most common specie we > have) here in Norway, it has to been stuffed. > It makes me wonder. Is it because your Herons are near tamed, or is a > specimental (I had to invent a word here) differences? > > > Tim > Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) > > Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds > (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) It's too full of Wendys, BigMacs and jelly donuts to fly. 8-)) > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4384567 > > It's hit and miss. Sometimes I can get close, other times not as close. How'd you know I was feeding it? LOL. I was actually wondering if I could chum them with goldfish... Tom C.
Re: OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity?
On Apr 27, 2006, at 6:14 AM, Jostein wrote: ... However, from a consumer perspective I think it sucks big time that you have to migrate your archive every five years to maintain your memories. With film, memories could pass down through generations without much maintenance. I can't imagine anyone wanting to propagate my archive every five years when I'm no longer around. ... I can re-copy my digital photo archives, losslessy, all 165,000 image files of it, in about an hour and a half easily, with no more effort than setting up the new media and telling the computer to copy it. My film negatives, carefully archival processed stored in archival sleeves, are deteriorating after 25-30 years. Not to unusable, but it would be difficult to make prints of the quality that could be made from them when they were fresh. Film is fragile and unique, not easily reproducible. I'll take the tradeoffs of digital media any time. And after I'm gone, well, I figure my interest in the work will likely diminish. It will be someone else's affair as to whether it is worth keeping around. Godfrey
Re: PESO - Lucky Peak Great Blue Heron
Thanks to all who commented. Tom C.
RE: PESO - Jelly Bellies
I like then a lot. sandy http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/698154 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Jelly Bellies Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 10:39:43 EDT I feel I shouldn't just dump PESOs out there without making a few comments on others'. But a bit busy with Mom. However, I'll try to make some comments soon. Again, following Bruce's suggestions for camera settings for the Monterey Bay Aquarium, I shot a lot of jelly fish. I felt there should have been some slow classical music on the background, maybe a waltz, to go a long with their graceful, slow movement. None are super sharp, but some are a tad sharper than others. I may throw up a jellyfish gallery next week. The have a tad more impact when taken together, and they would also probably display well on that way too. Say, a group of four or so. 1600, 50mm, 2.8, about 1/15 of a second, and accidentally shot JPG rather than RAW (because the no flash setting on my camera did that without my awareness of it) This is not the sharpest, not the worse, not the best, but I liked the juxtaposition of the two. Remember shot through, glass, water, and with a large f stop. http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/jellies.htm Comments, welcome. Marnie aka Doe
Re: PESO - The Texan
On 4/25/06, Gonz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Opinions needed. Do the bottles take too much away from the image? Is > it worth doing PS work to remove at least the one on the left? > > http://www.g0nz.com/images/thetexan.html > > Thanks in advance, I find the darkness on the bottom left to be far more distracting than the bottles. They (the bottles) both add some character and context to the photo, IMHO. Love the portrait, btw. I bet he has cowhorns on the front of his car! cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity?
From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> And after I'm gone, well, I figure my interest in the work will likely diminish. It will be someone else's affair as to whether it is worth keeping around. I think private persons have higher stakes in this than do professionals; it's the the memories of previous generations. I've spent many hours this winter scanning old photos of near and distant relatives, to much appreciation by the rest of the family. It's one heck of a job, but the gratitude I get in return is certainly worth it. Most of the photographers have been six feet under for a long time already. Still, the legacy is there, and is important. I would like to do my best to propagate not only my own shots, but the legacy I have maintained as well. Jostein
Re: PESO: The home stretch
On 4/26/06, Fred Widall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/fwwidall/135655181/ > > I recently went to Woodbine Racetrack in Toronto to watch some > horse racing. Naturally I took my *istDS along, together with > my F 70-210mm zoom. I found that the zoom wasn't quite powerful > for shooting from the stands. I had to crop away approx 75% of the > image to be left with this. Next time I'll try something a little longer. > It was a fun way to spend a beautiful spring afternoon - even if I > didn't win :) > > Comments welcome Love it! You've captured the excitement of the track quite nicely. I went to Woodbine about 5 years ago with a friend; her company was having a corporate day there. It was nice (except the weather was bad: cold and rainy). I took a wrong turn and ended up downstairs where the hardcore gamblers are. Scary... cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity?
The option to propagate the original without quality loss is indeed one of the major advantages of digital over film. My point, though, was how to establish a good practice. :-) Jostein - Original Message - From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I can re-copy my digital photo archives, losslessy, all 165,000 image files of it, in about an hour and a half easily, with no more effort than setting up the new media and telling the computer to copy it. My film negatives, carefully archival processed stored in archival sleeves, are deteriorating after 25-30 years. Not to unusable, but it would be difficult to make prints of the quality that could be made from them when they were fresh. Film is fragile and unique, not easily reproducible. I'll take the tradeoffs of digital media any time. And after I'm gone, well, I figure my interest in the work will likely diminish. It will be someone else's affair as to whether it is worth keeping around. Godfrey
Re: PESO - Jelly Bellies
> > Thanks, Dave. I should get a jelly fish gallery up sometime in the next three Please do. On a side note, last year while visiting Las Vegas, i shot some pictures of the White Tigers at the Mirage Hotel, while they were behind glass. I though i would have reflection problems but didi not. It was with the A50 and istD. Dave > days. > > Yes, Boris, I'll show some of the sharper ones. Although none are super sharp > -- they were moving, even if somewhat slowly. > > Marnie > > == > Nice shot./ Love the rich blue colour. > > Smidge of motion blur works for this shot. > > Dave > > Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > > This is not the sharpest, not the worse, not the best, but I liked the > > juxtaposition of the two. > > > > Remember shot through, glass, water, and with a large f stop. > > > > http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/jellies.htm > > > > Comments, welcome. > > > > Marnie aka Doe >
Re: OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity?
Hum...? Do you really want to know what I really don't do which is back all images up to DVD, or what I think should be done which is: 1. Store copy on file server with mirrored hard drives and an uninterruptible power supply. 2. Make 2 DVD backup sets. 3. Keep one DVD set on premises 4. Keep one DVD set off premises, like in a safe deposit box. If you do that and still wind up losing your images, you can claim it is an act of god instead of carelessness. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" --- Jostein wrote: Dear gang, I discovered the "need more storage" thread just now, by looking in the archives. Long term storage is a hot topic among my friends over here at the moment, but nobody seems to have any "best practice" to point to. "Nobody" includes me too :-) but I would very much like to establish a good practice for myself. So by googling, and some thinking, I've come down to a list of things to consider. I'm not sure if this is a good list to go by, and would very much like to hear some opinions: 1. Longevity of storage medium (Hard-drive, DVD, etc.) 2. Longevity of the technology used to access the medium (USB, SCSI, etc.) 3. Longevity of software support for the chosen file format (RAW, TIFF, etc.) Then there is: 4. Data safeguarding (backup routines etc.) 5. Data availability (access time to a file) 6. Production volume (number of exposures and edit-files) 7. Convenience 8. Cost (both time and money) By any measure, a solution to cover all this points will be a trade-off between several of them. Convenience and longevity pull in the same direction, for example, while cost pulls the other way. So what do you think? And how do you store your precious moments? Thanks for your thoughts, Jostein This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: PESO: The home stretch
frank theriault wrote: Love it! You've captured the excitement of the track quite nicely. I went to Woodbine about 5 years ago with a friend; her company was having a corporate day there. It was nice (except the weather was bad: cold and rainy). I took a wrong turn and ended up downstairs where the hardcore gamblers are. Scary... yeah, I bet they =were= scared... cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Semi-OT: Hard Drive Format
Need help, please. Remember that USB hard drive that I ordered? I will need to format it to NTFS (I use Windows XP Home). Rummaging through Microsoft's Knowledge Base, I am finding only instructions for formatting drives that are in the computer, and only for formatting them to either FAT 16 or FAT 32. Can someone send me a link to the correct instructions? Thanks, Joe
Re: OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity?
See my other reply. You make new backup copies as new media becomes available. That is the reason for using a fileserver as your main repository. Such a server is not necessarily that expensive. And older computer that you may already have around the house, an IDE raid controller, a couple of big hard drives, and a UPS. Network it to your workstations and/or laptops and you are in business. The images are there online and reasonably safe, at least far safer than if you just have them on a USB drive. If new backup media becomes available you just back up the whole image file to that and toss the DVD's. In the unlikely case of both mirrored drives crashing at the same time you restore the system from the backup media. Anyone who thinks there is a once and forever computer archive scheme out there is deluding themselves. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" --- Jostein wrote: Very interesting indeed. Long-life media is a good start. If even the minimum estimate of 80 years holds, media lifetime will not be the limiting factor. Second question: Will there be any CD-R readers to go round in 80 years from now? Personal computers have been with us for 25 years, and we've already passed through several generations of storage media that can no longer be read by mainstream computers. Jostein Quoting Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: This looks interesting: http://www.imaginginfo.com/article/article.jsp?siteSection=3&id=1641 This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
RE: OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity?
Hi Ryan this is a real and dangerous misunderstanding of the purpose of Raid technology IMHO. Raid keeps your system running if one drive fails at a time but would not help against software corruption, (user) deletion of files, fire, theft and many more. greetings Markus >>-Original Message- >>From: Ryan K. Brooks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 4:38 PM >>To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net >>Subject: Re: OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity? >> >> >> >>I store all my photos and scans on a dedicated RAID 5 setup.In my >>case, I built one using a 3ware card, my old PC, a gig-e card and >>FreeBSD. Today, I'd probably buy something like the ReadyNAS NV. I >>make backups to firewire disks and store those off-site. >> >>To me, this is the only way to make sure my files survive. >>-Ryan >>
