RE: Optio S Memory card size?

2005-08-16 Thread Don Sanderson
Thanks Daniel!

Don

> -Original Message-
> From: Daniel Matyola [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 8:08 PM
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: Optio S Memory card size?
> 
> 
> I have one of the original Optio S cameras.  I have no problem
> usindg a 1.0 GB card, as well as 512 MB cards.
> 
> -- Original Message --
> From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 16:39:51 -0700
> 
> >I've not heard of any cameras accepting SD cards that could not use  
> >up to at least the 512M capacity without any modification.
> >
> >Godfrey
> >
> >On Aug 16, 2005, at 4:38 PM, Don Sanderson wrote:
> >
> >> I just bought a pair of Optio S "fixer-uppers", one with a bad
> >> LCD and another with a mangled lens assembly.
> >> For a total of  $69.00 I hope to transplant the good LCD and
> >> wind up with one good camera.
> >> The manual only mentions 16MB MMC/SD cards, does
> >> anyone know if this camera takes larger cards and whether
> >> it requires firmware updates to do so?
> >>
> >> TIA
> >> Don
> >>   
> 



Re: Optio S Memory card size?

2005-08-16 Thread Daniel Matyola
I have one of the original Optio S cameras.  I have no problem
usindg a 1.0 GB card, as well as 512 MB cards.

-- Original Message --
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 16:39:51 -0700

>I've not heard of any cameras accepting SD cards that could not use  
>up to at least the 512M capacity without any modification.
>
>Godfrey
>
>On Aug 16, 2005, at 4:38 PM, Don Sanderson wrote:
>
>> I just bought a pair of Optio S "fixer-uppers", one with a bad
>> LCD and another with a mangled lens assembly.
>> For a total of  $69.00 I hope to transplant the good LCD and
>> wind up with one good camera.
>> The manual only mentions 16MB MMC/SD cards, does
>> anyone know if this camera takes larger cards and whether
>> it requires firmware updates to do so?
>>
>> TIA
>> Don
>>   



RE: Optio S Memory card size?

2005-08-16 Thread Don Sanderson
Thanks Bruce.
Exactly what I wanted to hear! ;-)

Don

> -Original Message-
> From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 7:01 PM
> To: Don Sanderson
> Subject: Re: Optio S Memory card size?
> 
> 
> Hello Don,
> 
> My wife regularly uses 1gb cards in her Optio S.
> 
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Bruce
> 
> 
> Tuesday, August 16, 2005, 4:38:38 PM, you wrote:
> 
> DS> I just bought a pair of Optio S "fixer-uppers", one with a bad
> DS> LCD and another with a mangled lens assembly.
> DS> For a total of  $69.00 I hope to transplant the good LCD and
> DS> wind up with one good camera.
> DS> The manual only mentions 16MB MMC/SD cards, does
> DS> anyone know if this camera takes larger cards and whether
> DS> it requires firmware updates to do so?
> 
> DS> TIA
> DS> Don
> 
> 
> 



Re: Optio S Memory card size?

2005-08-16 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Don,

My wife regularly uses 1gb cards in her Optio S.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Tuesday, August 16, 2005, 4:38:38 PM, you wrote:

DS> I just bought a pair of Optio S "fixer-uppers", one with a bad
DS> LCD and another with a mangled lens assembly.
DS> For a total of  $69.00 I hope to transplant the good LCD and
DS> wind up with one good camera.
DS> The manual only mentions 16MB MMC/SD cards, does
DS> anyone know if this camera takes larger cards and whether
DS> it requires firmware updates to do so?

DS> TIA
DS> Don





RE: Optio S Memory card size?

2005-08-16 Thread Don Sanderson
Thanks Godfrey, I'm hoping it will take bigger cards.
16s give a whopping 7 max Q jpegs per card!
I was just surprised that the manual, which is quite extensive,
doesn't have a list of compatible cards.
The 16 is all they refer to.

Don

> -Original Message-
> From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 6:40 PM
> To: PDML
> Subject: Re: Optio S Memory card size?
> 
> 
> I've not heard of any cameras accepting SD cards that could not use  
> up to at least the 512M capacity without any modification.
> 
> Godfrey
> 
> On Aug 16, 2005, at 4:38 PM, Don Sanderson wrote:
> 
> > I just bought a pair of Optio S "fixer-uppers", one with a bad
> > LCD and another with a mangled lens assembly.
> > For a total of  $69.00 I hope to transplant the good LCD and
> > wind up with one good camera.
> > The manual only mentions 16MB MMC/SD cards, does
> > anyone know if this camera takes larger cards and whether
> > it requires firmware updates to do so?
> >
> > TIA
> > Don
> >
> >
> 



Re: Optio S Memory card size?

2005-08-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I've not heard of any cameras accepting SD cards that could not use  
up to at least the 512M capacity without any modification.


Godfrey

On Aug 16, 2005, at 4:38 PM, Don Sanderson wrote:


I just bought a pair of Optio S "fixer-uppers", one with a bad
LCD and another with a mangled lens assembly.
For a total of  $69.00 I hope to transplant the good LCD and
wind up with one good camera.
The manual only mentions 16MB MMC/SD cards, does
anyone know if this camera takes larger cards and whether
it requires firmware updates to do so?

TIA
Don






Re: Optio S operating info

2003-12-21 Thread Lawrence Kwan
On Sun, 21 Dec 2003, Kenneth Waller wrote:
> At the bottom of page 130 of the Optio S operating manual, next to
> viewfinder is the statement that there is diopter adjustment in the range
> of -3 to +1 m, I can't for the life of me find anything about this anywhere
> else in the manual. Is this a typo or is there really diopter adjustment on
> this camera.

It is probably a typo.  I have the S4, and there is no diopter adjustment;
it is fixed at -1 at 3m.

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Re: Optio S operating info

2003-12-21 Thread Gary Sibio
At 04:35 PM 12/21/2003, you wrote:
Still getting use to a newly acquired Optio S. Seems like a really great
little camera, I am amazed at all the features.
I have a question for those more familiar with this little gem.
At the bottom of page 130 of the Optio S operating manual, next to
viewfinder is the statement that there is diopter adjustment in the range
of -3 to +1 m, I can't for the life of me find anything about this anywhere
else in the manual. Is this a typo or is there really diopter adjustment on
this camera.
I don't know about the Optio S but on the Optio 555 there is a sliding 
control on top of the viewfinder.

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Re: Optio S operating info

2003-12-21 Thread Kenneth Waller
Still getting use to a newly acquired Optio S. Seems like a really great
little camera, I am amazed at all the features.
I have a question for those more familiar with this little gem.
At the bottom of page 130 of the Optio S operating manual, next to
viewfinder is the statement that there is diopter adjustment in the range
of -3 to +1 m, I can't for the life of me find anything about this anywhere
else in the manual. Is this a typo or is there really diopter adjustment on
this camera.

Kenneth Waller





RE: Optio S

2003-10-28 Thread Cesar Matamoros II
-- -Original Message-
-- From: Chris Murray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-- Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 2:21 PM
--
-- On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--
-- > Dan mentioned his Optio S today.
-- >
-- > I'm sad to report that the Optio S is off with my daughter now.
-- > The thing is so damned cute that I'm thinking about buying
-- another one and chucking film entirely...
-- > (well not really) (g)
-- >
-- > I had it around my neck for the past two days, and I
-- couldn't tell I was carrying a camera.  Plus, I get 4
-- megapixels when I take a photo and a 12X zoom.  If I could
-- resolve to live with that level of resolution, a digital SLR
-- would be pointless.
-- >
-- > The Sony S85 I picked up for myself is 4 megapixels,
-- compact, and has some additional features, but looks like a
-- 6x7 compared to the Optio S!  I'm beginning to think of
-- digital in terms of snapshots and film in terms of serious
-- pictures where magnification and detail will be enjoyed.
-- >
-- > That Optio S is sure a sweetheart!
-- >
--
-- I'm really happy with mine. Its nice to have a camera with me at all
-- times.  I was out shooting with my 35mm gear this weekend,
-- and I put the
-- optio S in my camera bag and couldn't find it LOL.
--
-- I've only had it for a month, and I'm up to 900 images on it. All
-- snapshots, but it will allow me to almost always shoot black
-- and white
-- now :) Actually, I'm shooting more film now than before I got the S.
--
-- - Chris
--
-- --
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My Optio S sits in a bag with the *ist D at the moment, but it did get over
3300 shots over a 7 month period...  It has not gotten touched since I got
the *ist D.  Though it will still be used as a camera that will always be
with me - it is a perfect camera to carry with you.  I can still see
snapshooting with it when I do not have the *ist D with me.

The funny thing is, I showed the *ist D to the former squadron
photographer - he shoots the Nikon D1H and D1X, which is how I got to be
familiar with them.  His first comment was how it was so small.  He feared
that he would not be able to find it floating in his gear bag :-)  I
commented that a grip was available.  He thought he would need it since he
had gotten used to the Nikon's size.

My shooting season is about over but I still see my film use being the same
as before.  Last weekend I ended up shooting a roll of 35mm slides, two
rolls of medium format rolls, and about 70 rolls of digital.

Just wanted to add my little bit,

Cesar



Re: Optio S

2003-10-28 Thread Bruce Dayton
Bob,

You're singing my tune.  That is exactly what I have done.  The Optio
S (when I can get it away from my wife) takes all the snaps.
Sometimes I have to use my Coolpix 990.  Anyway,  All the snapshots,
family stuff, etc. - anything I would have shot on 35mm is now shot on
the little digi's.  My 67 is reserved for when I really care about the
image quality or a paying job.  The 35mm gear is basically all sold.

---
Bruce


Tuesday, October 28, 2003, 10:51:46 AM, you wrote:

Rac> Dan mentioned his Optio S today.

Rac> I'm sad to report that the Optio S is off with my daughter now.
Rac> The thing is so damned cute that I'm thinking about buying
Rac> another one and chucking film entirely... 
Rac> (well not really) (g)

Rac> I had it around my neck for the past two days, and I
Rac> couldn't tell I was carrying a camera.  Plus, I get 4 megapixels
Rac> when I take a photo and a 12X zoom.  If I could resolve to live
Rac> with that level of resolution, a digital SLR would be pointless.

Rac> The Sony S85 I picked up for myself is 4 megapixels,
Rac> compact, and has some additional features, but looks like a 6x7
Rac> compared to the Optio S!  I'm beginning to think of digital in
Rac> terms of snapshots and film in terms of serious pictures where
Rac> magnification and detail will be enjoyed.

Rac> That Optio S is sure a sweetheart!

Rac> Regards,  Bob S.





Re: Optio S

2003-10-28 Thread Matjaz Osojnik
I second that. These days, this is just the way how I use my cameras 
as well: Optio S is such a great take it anywhere camera that it gets 
most of snapshooting. For that purpose, results are just great.

OTOH, when I pick up MZ-S with 24 or 77 attached to it, my first 
thought is like "Oh yeah, I'm home here". More serious photography 
belongs there. Especially B&W stuff and slides.

And I have to add, I still ~really~ like film. Not that some day, I 
won't go and buy an istD or its future reincarnation.

Matjaz

> 
> The Sony S85 I picked up for myself is 4 megapixels, compact, and has
> some additional features, but looks like a 6x7 compared to the Optio
> S!  I'm beginning to think of digital in terms of snapshots and film
> in terms of serious pictures where magnification and detail will be
> enjoyed.
> 
> That Optio S is sure a sweetheart!
> 
> Regards,  Bob S.
> 
> 




Re: Optio S

2003-10-28 Thread Chris Murray
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Dan mentioned his Optio S today.
> 
> I'm sad to report that the Optio S is off with my daughter now.
> The thing is so damned cute that I'm thinking about buying another one and chucking 
> film entirely... 
> (well not really) (g)
> 
> I had it around my neck for the past two days, and I couldn't tell I was carrying a 
> camera.  Plus, I get 4 megapixels when I take a photo and a 12X zoom.  If I could 
> resolve to live with that level of resolution, a digital SLR would be pointless.
> 
> The Sony S85 I picked up for myself is 4 megapixels, compact, and has some 
> additional features, but looks like a 6x7 compared to the Optio S!  I'm beginning to 
> think of digital in terms of snapshots and film in terms of serious pictures where 
> magnification and detail will be enjoyed.
> 
> That Optio S is sure a sweetheart!
> 

I'm really happy with mine. Its nice to have a camera with me at all
times.  I was out shooting with my 35mm gear this weekend, and I put the
optio S in my camera bag and couldn't find it LOL. 

I've only had it for a month, and I'm up to 900 images on it. All
snapshots, but it will allow me to almost always shoot black and white
now :) Actually, I'm shooting more film now than before I got the S.

- Chris

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RE: Optio S - Additional memory

2003-10-21 Thread Pat
I'm confused... I thought that the Optio S uses an SD type memory device? For
someone who is ignorant about these things, are prices about the same for the
same amount of storage in different formats? i.e. would the price of 256mb CF
card be about the same as a 256mb SD card?
 
Pat in SF
 
> On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 15:26:32 -0700, Amita Guha wrote:
>> I got a 256mb Viking CF card from Buy.com for $30 after a $20 mfr
>> rebate. Buy.com is definitely worth checking, as is J&R.
>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Kenneth Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>>> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 6:07 PM
>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Subject: Re: Optio S - Additional memory
>>> 
>>> I will be purchasing an Optio S shortly and want to purchase 
>>> additional memory - 256 mb. Any yeas, nays or suggestions? 
>>> Vendors to stay away from/or recommended?
>>> 
>>> Kenneth Waller

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Re: Optio S - Additional memory

2003-10-21 Thread Kenneth Waller
If you go to the Pentax site, www.Pentax.com click on digital, click on
Optio S, click on comparison charts, you can compare up to three different
Pentax cameras.
>From what I see, the main difference is the larger number of pixels
(3.2-Optio S vs. 4.0 Optio S4) & the lack of color capture mode with the
Optio S4.
I just ordered the Optio S from B&H.

Kenneth Waller
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From: "Francis Alviar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Pentax Discuss List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 9:30 AM
Subject: RE: Optio S - Additional memory


> Interested in purchasing an Optio S also.  I've heard
> that there is an Optio S4 out.  What, besides the
> higher MP count are the main differences between the
> two and which one would you recommend?  For existing
> Optio S owners, how long is the battery life?  Can you
> shoot a long time between charges?  Thanks.
>
>
> Francis
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RE: Optio S - Additional memory

2003-10-21 Thread Francis Alviar
Interested in purchasing an Optio S also.  I've heard
that there is an Optio S4 out.  What, besides the
higher MP count are the main differences between the
two and which one would you recommend?  For existing
Optio S owners, how long is the battery life?  Can you
shoot a long time between charges?  Thanks.


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Re: Optio S - Additional memory

2003-10-20 Thread Chris Murray
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003, Kenneth Waller wrote:

> I will be purchasing an Optio S shortly and want to purchase additional
> memory - 256 mb. Any yeas, nays or suggestions? Vendors to stay away from/or
> recommended?
> 
> Kenneth Waller

I have a Sandisk 256MB SD card in mine, no problems. I think I paid
$139.00 Canadian bucks.

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Re: Optio S - Additional memory

2003-10-20 Thread Kenneth Waller
I will be purchasing an Optio S shortly and want to purchase additional
memory - 256 mb. Any yeas, nays or suggestions? Vendors to stay away from/or
recommended?

Kenneth Waller



Re: optio s

2003-08-23 Thread ernreed2
My comments here; context reproduced below.
On my Optio 550, I use the viewfinder most of the time. But it's not good for 
framing macro stuff (major parallax error) plus there's a certain minimum 
distance past which the eye can focus on the subject through the viewfinder 
anyway (in other words, get too close and can't see comfortably through the 
viewfinder.) Also, the viewfinder doesn't provide shooting data, so if you want 
to see your settings while composing the shot, it would be necessary to use the 
LCD screen.
I don't find the LCD screen very convenient most of the time anyway, because I 
don't wear bifocals but am probably, at most, two eye exams away from going 
into them!
Optio 550 has a nice little viewfinder all the same, except that the diopter 
adjustment slider gets accidentally shifted waaay too easily.


> on 8/23/03 7:42 AM, Lon Williamson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > I don't know, not having used digicams myself.  A friend of
> > mine, a long time film shooter and darkroom type, just bought
> > a 3 MPixel rangefinder digicam, and according to him, the viewfinder
> > on these things is useless.  He found himself quickly using the
> > LCD for all shots.  Knowing him as I do, he didn't start working
> > that way just to look "in".  He does it because it is the best
> > way to work.
> > 
> > Ramesh Kumar wrote, in part:
> >> 
> >> I guess most of the people may be using LCD screen for
> >> everything; I do not think viewfinder adds any value.
> >> 
> >> Do we need viewfinder at all?
> > 
> > 
> 
> I've looked at the Optio S, have not actually used one. IIRC, the viewfinder
> was not bad. On my Optio 330RS the viewfinder is quite adequate for framing
> the shot. Using the LCD rather than the viewfinder would never never be the
> preferred mode unless:
> a. you are talking about a camera with a viewfinder that is just too dark to
> see through;
> b. the camera is on a tripod; or
> c. you are doing low-level macros, high-level over the crowd shots, or some
> other weird thing and have no choice in the matter. What the heck, no film
> costs to worry about, click the shutter and 1 out of 50 might work.
> 
> I can guarantee you that physically there is no way you can get as steady a
> shot with the camera held out in front of you as you can with the camera
> held close to your face as you look through the viewfinder. And don't forget
> that you are often shooting with 100 or 200 film (equivalence), low shutter
> speeds, and not all that fast lenses. And the AF is going to be slower in
> dimmer light, so just when you need to be steadiest, you get the longest
> shutter lag and the biggest challenge to holding the camera steady.
> 
> 
> IMHO, forget the notion of LCD as framing/focusing device. If you cannot use
> the viewfinder on a given P&S digicam, don't buy it expecting to use the LCD
> as a work-around; you will get lots of blurred shots.
> 
> Stan
> 




Re: optio s

2003-08-23 Thread Lon Williamson
I don't know, not having used digicams myself.  A friend of
mine, a long time film shooter and darkroom type, just bought
a 3 MPixel rangefinder digicam, and according to him, the viewfinder
on these things is useless.  He found himself quickly using the
LCD for all shots.  Knowing him as I do, he didn't start working
that way just to look "in".  He does it because it is the best
way to work.
Ramesh Kumar wrote, in part:
I guess most of the people may be using LCD screen for
everything; I do not think viewfinder adds any value. 

Do we need viewfinder at all?



Re: optio s

2003-08-22 Thread Christian
- Original Message - 
From: "Ramesh Kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> I guess most of the people may be using LCD screen for
> everything; I do not think viewfinder adds any value.
>
> Do we need viewfinder at all?
>
> Thanks
> Ramesh

When I was shooting race cars at the track, the viewfinder was helpful for
panning and the LCD useless.

Christian



RE: optio s

2003-08-22 Thread Amita Guha
> Do we need viewfinder at all?

I have the Optio 230, and I always turn off the LCD to save batteries. I
only use it to compose close up shots because the viewfinder is
inaccurate in those cases.

I find that the 230 makes pretty good macro shots, but the flash is
useless beyond 6 or 7 feet.

Amita



Re: optio s

2003-08-22 Thread Herb Chong
manual focus on the LCD isn't very useful on any digital camera i have used. it's not 
high enough resolution and there isn't a digital zoom-in to any part of the image 
capture area for increasing focusing precision. i use my LCD for composing when i have 
an adapter lens or filters attached and when i am making manual settings to any of the 
controls. if i am not doing any of these, i have the LCD turned off.

Herb
- Original Message - 
From: "Ramesh Kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 13:08
Subject: Re: optio s


> Manual focus: I feel very uncomfrable using LCD screen
> during the focussing. AF is not reliable.





Re: optio s

2003-08-22 Thread Anders Hultman
Ramesh Kumar:

I guess most of the people may be using LCD screen for
everything; I do not think viewfinder adds any value.
Do we need viewfinder at all?
My girlfriend's digital P&S has a viewfinder and it really saves 
batteries to not use the LCD all the time. When I borrow it, I use 
the viewfinder for most shots, and the LCD only in special cases like 
for extreme closeups where parallax is an issue, and for shooting 
where I can't place the camera to my eyes (like holding it in 
upstretched arms in a crowd).

My own digital P&S has no viewfinder though.

anders
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Re: optio s

2003-08-22 Thread Ramesh Kumar
Recently I brought OptioS. This is my first p&s camera
including film & digital and felt really uncomfortable
using controls and useless viewfinder.

Manual focus: I feel very uncomfrable using LCD screen
during the focussing. AF is not reliable.

Controls: To change some of the values, you need to do
3-4 clicks. Ex: To change the metering modes, it needs
to do 3 operation. I am used Mz-5n where I do this
with single click. Hope *IstD does not have this
problem.

I never knew there is something called Auto WB. In my
camera, WB always stays in DayLight, I need to set it
to Fluro.., Incan.. manually.

I guess most of the people may be using LCD screen for
everything; I do not think viewfinder adds any value. 

Do we need viewfinder at all?

Thanks
Ramesh

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I've had one now for 3 days and would like to hear
> what others who have it
> think.  I finally got a digital camera b/c I wanted
> one that I could
> easily take anywhere. (the ZX-5n with battery pack
> and 500ftz could be
> obtrusive at times)  In the altoids tin it fits
> neatly in the coin pocket
> of my pants.
> 
> Here are my impressions:
> Pros
> Size...Size...Size
> I was very impressed with its macro capabilities.
> Exposure and color balance seem to be dead on most
> of the time.
> Decent flash power for its size.
> You can hand hold a much slower speeds with decent
> results.
> 
> Cons
> Quite a bit of edge distortion but I was aware of
> this from the reviews
> and was willing to sacrifice this for the size. 
> After use, its not that
> bad, and being aware of this, I can compose a shot
> so that I can allow for
> the edges to be cropped out.
> 
> Auto focus seems to be pretty weak, it seems there
> must be a pretty large
> contrast to get a good lock.  Anyone else having
> trouble with this?
> 
> Auto white balance doesn't work very well.  Under
> incandescent lighting it
> always chooses daylight.  I have set the feature
> from EV to WB just to
> overcome this.  It does correctly choose fluorescent
> light though.  Anyone
> else have this problem, or did I get a bad sample.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 


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RE: optio s

2003-08-22 Thread Bill Owens
I find myself using it more and more, and it's nearly always in my
pocket in the Pentax leather case.  My only objection is that the auto
white balance tends to go somewhat blue, so I usually use manual white
balance.  I'm very impressed with battery performance and overall
quality.  Even 8x10 prints are excellent, IMO.


Bill

> I've had one now for 3 days and would like to hear what others who 
> have it think.  I finally got a digital camera b/c I wanted one that I

> could easily take anywhere. (the ZX-5n with battery pack and 500ftz 
> could be obtrusive at times)  In the altoids tin it fits neatly in the

> coin pocket of my pants.
>
> Here are my impressions:
> Pros
> Size...Size...Size
> I was very impressed with its macro capabilities.
> Exposure and color balance seem to be dead on most of the time. Decent

> flash power for its size. You can hand hold a much slower speeds with 
> decent results.
>
> Cons
> Quite a bit of edge distortion but I was aware of this from the 
> reviews and was willing to sacrifice this for the size.  After use, 
> its not that bad, and being aware of this, I can compose a shot so 
> that I can allow for the edges to be cropped out.
>
> Auto focus seems to be pretty weak, it seems there must be a pretty 
> large contrast to get a good lock.  Anyone else having trouble with 
> this?
>
> Auto white balance doesn't work very well.  Under incandescent 
> lighting it always chooses daylight.  I have set the feature from EV 
> to WB just to overcome this.  It does correctly choose fluorescent 
> light though.  Anyone else have this problem, or did I get a bad 
> sample.





Re: optio s

2003-08-22 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I am very happy with my Optio S so far.  I traded the Altoids tin I used for
the fist month for the Pentax case, which hangs unobtrusively on my belt and
carries an extra battery and extra memory card as well.

I agree with most of what you have said. I have had no trouble with auto focus
on subjects relatively near to the camera, but shots in the far distance
sometimes look a bit soft.

Dan

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I've had one now for 3 days and would like to hear what others who have it
> think.  I finally got a digital camera b/c I wanted one that I could
> easily take anywhere. (the ZX-5n with battery pack and 500ftz could be
> obtrusive at times)  In the altoids tin it fits neatly in the coin pocket
> of my pants.
>
> Here are my impressions:
> Pros
> Size...Size...Size
> I was very impressed with its macro capabilities.
> Exposure and color balance seem to be dead on most of the time.
> Decent flash power for its size.
> You can hand hold a much slower speeds with decent results.
>
> Cons
> Quite a bit of edge distortion but I was aware of this from the reviews
> and was willing to sacrifice this for the size.  After use, its not that
> bad, and being aware of this, I can compose a shot so that I can allow for
> the edges to be cropped out.
>
> Auto focus seems to be pretty weak, it seems there must be a pretty large
> contrast to get a good lock.  Anyone else having trouble with this?
>
> Auto white balance doesn't work very well.  Under incandescent lighting it
> always chooses daylight.  I have set the feature from EV to WB just to
> overcome this.  It does correctly choose fluorescent light though.  Anyone
> else have this problem, or did I get a bad sample.



Re: Optio S and battery use

2003-08-14 Thread Heiko Hamann
Hi Keith,

on 10 Aug 03 you wrote in pentax.list:

>The more I read about the little Optio S, the more I'm tempted to buy
>one just to carry around with me, everywhere I go!

That's the biggest advantage of th eOptio S - you have a camera always  
with you! The high battery capacity of the 450/550 is a kind of funny,  
too: it simply wonderer when the first need to recharge the battery  
would ocur ;-) It took some days and I wondered if there was a problem  
with the battery indicatoer ;-)

Cheers, heiko



Re: Optio S and battery use

2003-08-14 Thread Heiko Hamann
Hi Bill,

on 09 Aug 03 you wrote in pentax.list:

>I had a pleasant surprise this evening.  I shot 53 "frames" in the Optio
>S at a wedding reception, used flash on all 53 and still had over 1/2
>charge left in the battery.

That's very fine for such a tiny camera. But you should try an Optio  
450/550 it gives you 200-400 pictures (depenent on flash usage) with one  
battery!

Cheers, Heiko



Re: Optio S and battery use

2003-08-14 Thread Keith Whaley
You're right, of course, but for the "average" photographer, as most of
us are, being able to take 50+ flash-assisted photographs in one furious
session, and after that being able to take twice that many if you want
to...all on a single set of batteries, well, that's quite impressive!
How many of us NEED to take 200 to 400 photographs in a single session,
especially a lot of them with flash?
It shows not just how battery technology has come along, but how camera
manufacturers have fine-tuned their products to be more and more
efficient consumers of precious battery power!
The more I read about the little Optio S, the more I'm tempted to buy
one just to carry around with me, everywhere I go!

keith whaley


Heiko Hamann wrote:
> 
> Hi Bill,
> 
> on 09 Aug 03 you wrote in pentax.list:
> 
> >I had a pleasant surprise this evening.  I shot 53 "frames" in the Optio
> >S at a wedding reception, used flash on all 53 and still had over 1/2
> >charge left in the battery.
> 
> That's very fine for such a tiny camera. But you should try an Optio
> 450/550 it gives you 200-400 pictures (depenent on flash usage) with one
> battery!
> 
> Cheers, Heiko



Re: Optio S and battery use

2003-08-14 Thread Cotty
>I also have to pack three 
>sets of batteries since my digicam is now a dinosaur.

like it's owner ;-)




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Optio S and battery use

2003-08-14 Thread Rob Studdert
On 10 Aug 2003 at 5:19, Keith Whaley wrote:

> You're right, of course, but for the "average" photographer, as most of
> us are, being able to take 50+ flash-assisted photographs in one furious
> session, and after that being able to take twice that many if you want
> to...all on a single set of batteries, well, that's quite impressive!
> How many of us NEED to take 200 to 400 photographs in a single session,
> especially a lot of them with flash?

Anyone shooting a wedding/engagement/christening etc for profit or gratis will 
likely shoot over 200 shots using a digicam. I do. I also have to pack three 
sets of batteries since my digicam is now a dinosaur.

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
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Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998



Re: Optio S Case;

2003-07-04 Thread Frits Wüthrich
Jan,

If you buy in the USA, you have to ad sales tax, about 6%, if you order
out of state you don't but you have to pay for the shipping. When you
have it sent to the NL you have to pay duties, unless you can avoid it
in a smart way. Very often it still pays to buy it in the USA.
I bought many items from B&H during the time I lived in the USA, and
also later when I lived in the Netherlands or the UK where I currently
live. I bought my 24-90mm from Peter in sunny Brighton, it was not worth
it for me to buy it in the USA at that time.

When I lived in Amersfoort, I had to pay a local shop twice the price I
had to pay B&H for the Tamron macro 90mm AF, so you understand I picked
it up on a trip to the USA (at that time the company was doing a lot
better then now, so travel is now restricted). The local shop even never
heard of the availability of this lens for Pentax AF. Oh well...

In a few weeks I will be living in Amersfoort again, time will tell if I
can find a job in the company in the Netherlands again, or I will be
FMP'd a few months later.

Groeten uit zonnig Wiltshire
Frits

On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 13:07, Jan van Wijk wrote:
> Hallo Frits,
> 
> On 03 Jul 2003 23:18:36 +0100, Frits Wthrich wrote:
> 
> >
> >399 euro excluding memory card.
> >
> >Are you located in Europe, perhaps the Netherlands based on your name?
> 
> Yes, near Amstardam actually.
> 
> The lowest prices (mail-order) here are about 399 Euro's too.
> 
> With the current US$ to Euro rate (if it does not drop further) it should
> still be 10 to 15% cheaper there.
> 
> I have seen US$ 399 including a 128 Mb SD card in the US ...
> 
> Regards, JvW
> 
> --
> Jan van Wijk;   http://www.dfsee.com/gallery
-- 
Frits Wüthrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



Re: Optio S Case;

2003-07-03 Thread Frits Wüthrich
http://www.fotoversand24.de/fotoversand24.htm?vid=3feb3e3c7fac1f70fdc20fda07680a91&pid=997&tid=shop/4&cp=1&pmid=1&psid=21&mid=2&sid=3&ssid=32&ptid=shop/2

399 euro excluding memory card.

Are you located in Europe, perhaps the Netherlands based on your name?

Regards,
Frits

On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 13:20, Jan van Wijk wrote:
> Hi Bill,
> 
> On Thu, 3 Jul 2003 08:15:57 -0400, Bill Owens wrote:
> 
> > Any advice on where to get one in the Bay area near San Francisco ?
> >
> > They're hard to find in the USA right now, according to my local dealers
> 
> I will be near SF the first two weeks of october, so I can't use mail-order.
> I will be visiting a few of the big photo-stores I guess and see if I can find one.
> 
> >they're backordered due to higher than expected demand.  I got mine at the
> >Wal-Mart website (www.walmart.com) for $397.00 US including a 128 MB SD
> 
> That is a good price!
> 
> Maybe prices will even drop a bit, they might plan for an Optio-S upgrade
> end of the year or early 2004 ...
> 
> Regards, JvW
> --
> Jan van Wijk;   http://www.dfsee.com/gallery
-- 
Frits Wüthrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



Re: Optio S Case;

2003-07-03 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
My local photo shop (Millburn, NJ) has three in stock.

Bill Owens wrote:

> > I hope that belt-loop is a real "loop"!
>
> Yep, it uses a real loop, but I still carry mine in a pocket to be on the
> safe side
>
>  Any advice on where to get one in the Bay area near San Francisco ?
>
>  They're hard to find in the USA right now, according to my local dealers
> they're backordered due to higher than expected demand.  I got mine at the
> Wal-Mart website (www.walmart.com) for $397.00 US including a 128 MB SD
> card.
>
> Bill

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Re: Optio S Case;

2003-07-03 Thread Jan van Wijk
Hi Bill,

On Thu, 3 Jul 2003 08:15:57 -0400, Bill Owens wrote:

> Any advice on where to get one in the Bay area near San Francisco ?
>
> They're hard to find in the USA right now, according to my local dealers

I will be near SF the first two weeks of october, so I can't use mail-order.
I will be visiting a few of the big photo-stores I guess and see if I can find one.

>they're backordered due to higher than expected demand.  I got mine at the
>Wal-Mart website (www.walmart.com) for $397.00 US including a 128 MB SD

That is a good price!

Maybe prices will even drop a bit, they might plan for an Optio-S upgrade
end of the year or early 2004 ...

Regards, JvW
--
Jan van Wijk;   http://www.dfsee.com/gallery




Re: Optio S Case;

2003-07-03 Thread Bill Owens
> I hope that belt-loop is a real "loop"!

Yep, it uses a real loop, but I still carry mine in a pocket to be on the
safe side

 Any advice on where to get one in the Bay area near San Francisco ?

 They're hard to find in the USA right now, according to my local dealers
they're backordered due to higher than expected demand.  I got mine at the
Wal-Mart website (www.walmart.com) for $397.00 US including a 128 MB SD
card.

Bill




Re: Optio S Case;

2003-07-03 Thread Jan van Wijk
Hi Daniel,

On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 09:00:10 -0400, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

>I while back I related how I am using an Altoids tin as the case for
>my Optio S, and how well it works.  Recently, I was browsing in a
>camera shop (something I do whenever I can) and looked again at the
>case Pentx sells for the S.  It's a bit bulkier that the Altoids
>tin, but it also holds an extra battery and and extra memory card in
>an outside pocket.  Best of all, it has a belt loop, which works
>great because of the camera's tiny size.  I love it!

I hope that belt-loop is a real "loop"!

Using a leather-case that had a strong metal belt-CLIP, I managed 
to LOOSE my Optio-S the day before yesterday ...

So I am stuck with a loader and a spare DL-18 battery now :-(

I plan to get a new one on a trip to the USA in october, prices for the Optio-S
seem to be at least 20% lower in the states.

Any advice on where to get one in the Bay area near San Francisco ?

Regards, Jan van Wijk


--
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Re: Optio S advertising

2003-06-25 Thread Bill Owens

Christian has noted.

Have you picked up a photo magazine lately?  Nikon
and Canon advertise the crap out of their DSLRs
and digicams as well as their film offerings from
consumer to pro grade.  What's so sad is that I
have yet to see an ad for the Optio S which is
such a big hit for Pentax, yet I've seen ads for
the Casio version.

 Christian

Pentax actually has no need to advertise the Optio S.  According to my local
Pentax rep, there are more than 40,000 of them on dealer backorders.

Also, the Casio is not a "version" of the Optio S.  The only thing Pentax
about the Casio is the lens and possibly some firmware.  The Casio isn't as
small as the Optio S, and does not utilize interchangeable batteries.  It
must be placed in a charging stand to recharge the internal battery.  In
other words, if your battery dies while you're in the middle of a shoot, you
are SOL until you stick it on the charger and wait for it to recharge.  With
my Optio S, it takes about 15 seconds to change batteries, and they seem to
last for at least 100 or more exposures.

Bill




Re: Optio S observations

2003-06-21 Thread Bill Owens
I will Lon.  So far it seems to be a great alternative to a P&S film camera
for a carry with you all the time snapshot camera.  At yesterday's picnic,
all I wanted was snapshots to record the event with and it worked great for
that.  4x6 prints are nearly impossible to see any difference between the
Optio S and the typical minilab print.

Bill

- Original Message - 
From: "Lon Williamson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: Optio S observations


> Bill, keep us informed about how the Optio S does for you.
> I'm interested in buying it.
>
> Bill Owens wrote:
> >
> >>>I had a chance to give my Optio S a fairly good workout yesterday
> >>>evening and thought I'd share some of my opinions with y'all.
> >>
> >>Does it offer a TIFF or RAW option?
> >
> >
> > No, just jpg, which I download and save as a tif or psd
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
>
>
>




Re: Optio S observations

2003-06-21 Thread Lon Williamson
Bill, keep us informed about how the Optio S does for you.
I'm interested in buying it.
Bill Owens wrote:

I had a chance to give my Optio S a fairly good workout yesterday 
evening and thought I'd share some of my opinions with y'all.
Does it offer a TIFF or RAW option?


No, just jpg, which I download and save as a tif or psd

Bill






Re: Optio S observations

2003-06-21 Thread Bill Owens


> > I had a chance to give my Optio S a fairly good workout yesterday 
> > evening and thought I'd share some of my opinions with y'all.
> 
> Does it offer a TIFF or RAW option?

No, just jpg, which I download and save as a tif or psd

Bill



Re: Optio S observations

2003-06-21 Thread zcaballero
> I had a chance to give my Optio S a fairly good workout yesterday 
> evening and thought I'd share some of my opinions with y'all.

Does it offer a TIFF or RAW option?

z



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Re: Optio S flash

2003-06-12 Thread Michel Carrère-Gée
Alin Flaider a écrit:
   Hi Bill,
   
   Most likely there's no dedicated flash sensor. Instead it relies on
   the ambient light sensor that measures during the pre-flash. Very
   similarly to MZ-S operation in P-TTL mode.
The Optio S has a flash sensor,under the flash windows !
See owner manual p 9 !
Michel




Re: Optio S flash

2003-06-12 Thread Alin Flaider

   Hi Bill,
   
   Most likely there's no dedicated flash sensor. Instead it relies on
   the ambient light sensor that measures during the pre-flash. Very
   similarly to MZ-S operation in P-TTL mode.

   Servus,   Alin

Bill wrote:

BO> Apparently the Optio S uses a flash system similar to the MZ-S.  In normal
BO> flash mode there are 2 quick flashed and in red eye reduction there are
BO> three.  Has Pentax been able to get a flash sensor inside something this
BO> small?



Re: Optio S flash

2003-06-12 Thread Bill Owens
After reading the instruction manual AGAIN, I find that the Optio S delivers
3 flashes per exposure, both for normal and for redeye reduction, the
difference being there is a greater delay when using redeye reduction.  I'm
guessing that this flash sequence is similar to that of the MZ-S, where the
pre-flashes are telling the camera the proper settings to use for the
exposure.

Can anyone shed any light on this?

Bill

- Original Message -
From: "Steve Morphet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 8:39 AM
Subject: RE: Optio S flash


> Bill Owens wrote:
>
> I don't know how the MZ-S flash works, but I can confirm the number of
> flashes from the Optio S.  Is it using the first flash to meter the scene,
> and the second (with duration modified appropriately) to make the
exposure?
> I wonder if a seperate flash sensor is required.  Can it not just use the
> CCD?
>
> This weekend I used my Optio S to take some flash pictures in dim light,
> and I have to say that I was very disappointed with the results.  Nearly
> everything was badly underexposed, to the point where I don't expect it
> to be salvagable.  I had checked the flash range specs in the manual,
> and I knew I was working right at the limit (perhaps a little bit beyond
> it :-).  I think my mistake was to leave the camera set on 'Auto' ISO:
> While the flash ranges are specified at 200, it seems that the camera
> saw fit to choose 100 ISO for these pictures.
>
> I would have hoped to have spotted the problem straight away on the LCD,
> but it seems that this can give a rather optimistic interpretation of
> underexposed images.  The histograms do show what was going on, but I
> wasn't looking at them.  I will, next time.
>
> I think I know what I need to do to avoid these problems next time. (It
> may involve an LX and fast film).  Any other tips, or GIMP/Photoshop
> recovery techniques, will be gratefully received.  Unfortunately the
> event, a christening, is unlikely to be repeated.
>
> Steve.
>




RE: Optio S flash

2003-06-12 Thread Steve Morphet
Bill Owens wrote:

>Apparently the Optio S uses a flash system similar to the MZ-S.  In normal
>flash mode there are 2 quick flashed and in red eye reduction there are
>three.  Has Pentax been able to get a flash sensor inside something this
>small?

I don't know how the MZ-S flash works, but I can confirm the number of
flashes from the Optio S.  Is it using the first flash to meter the scene,
and the second (with duration modified appropriately) to make the exposure?
I wonder if a seperate flash sensor is required.  Can it not just use the
CCD?

This weekend I used my Optio S to take some flash pictures in dim light,
and I have to say that I was very disappointed with the results.  Nearly
everything was badly underexposed, to the point where I don't expect it
to be salvagable.  I had checked the flash range specs in the manual,
and I knew I was working right at the limit (perhaps a little bit beyond
it :-).  I think my mistake was to leave the camera set on 'Auto' ISO:
While the flash ranges are specified at 200, it seems that the camera
saw fit to choose 100 ISO for these pictures.

I would have hoped to have spotted the problem straight away on the LCD,
but it seems that this can give a rather optimistic interpretation of
underexposed images.  The histograms do show what was going on, but I
wasn't looking at them.  I will, next time.

I think I know what I need to do to avoid these problems next time. (It
may involve an LX and fast film).  Any other tips, or GIMP/Photoshop 
recovery techniques, will be gratefully received.  Unfortunately the
event, a christening, is unlikely to be repeated.

Steve.



Re: Optio S pre-order (and prices)

2003-02-11 Thread Peter Alling
That's also true the initial price offering will drop rather quickly I'm sure.

At 05:15 PM 2/11/2003 +0100, you wrote:

Hi Peter,

on 11 Feb 03 you wrote in pentax.list:

>>Amazon Germany (or the zshops) has it listed for 529 Euro
>Must be the VAT.

And a very conservative price policy by Amazon. You can find various
German online shops offering the Optio S at 469,- Euro. That seems to be
a realistic streeet price for Europe.

Cheers, Heiko


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Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.  --Groucho Marx




Re: Optio S pre-order (and prices)

2003-02-11 Thread Heiko Hamann
Hi Peter,

on 11 Feb 03 you wrote in pentax.list:

>>Amazon Germany (or the zshops) has it listed for 529 Euro
>Must be the VAT.

And a very conservative price policy by Amazon. You can find various  
German online shops offering the Optio S at 469,- Euro. That seems to be  
a realistic streeet price for Europe.

Cheers, Heiko




Re: Optio S pre-order (and prices)

2003-02-11 Thread Peter Alling
Must be the VAT.

At 11:47 AM 2/11/2003 +0100, Scars wrote:

Hi!
Amazon Germany (or the zshops) has it listed for 529 Euro
http://s1.amazon.de/exec/varzea/ts/exchange-glance/Y04Y2262953Y2956152/qid%3
D1044959909/sr%3D1-1/028-5489151-1156544


- Original Message -
From: "Rob Brigham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 11:20 AM
Subject: Optio S pre-order (and prices)


> you can already pre-order this camera at amazon.com for $399.99
> Pentax Optio S 3.2MP Digital Camera w/ 3x Optical Zoom
> Price: $399.99
>
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B87HWM/qid=1044959095/
> sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_1/103-3772317-1367839?v=glance&s=photo&n=507846
>
> Availability: This item will be released on April 21, 2003. You may
> order it now and we will ship it to you when it arrives.
>


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Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.  --Groucho Marx




Re: Optio S first look

2003-02-09 Thread Dan Scott

On Sunday, February 9, 2003, at 09:27  AM, Paul Franklin Stregevsky 
wrote:

1. You can shoot at ISO 320 (vs. Pentax's ISO 200).
2. You can transfer your images to your PC easily with a docking 
station.
3. You can shoot images at 1600 x 1200 and 1280 x 960. I think the 
Pentax
offers nothing in-between its maximum and 1024 x 768.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Well, no one knows which is the better camera or bargain since neither 
is available yet. All we can do is compare spec sheets, which don't 
necessarily tell you which is the better camera either.

But, since spec sheets is what we got ;-), for the $425 Pentax and the 
$450 Casio (suggested US retail prices), I see:

1.Casio's website lists the Casio's ISO as 50, 100, & 200— as does 
Pentax

2. The craddle is a Casio disadvantage (from my perspective). With the 
Casio you _must_ transfer your photos through the cradle and cable to a 
computer or a printer. Pentax needs only a USB cable.

3. Casio has committed to 4 steps in image size from min to max. while 
Pentax is "TBD"

4. Pentax has spot, center weighted, and matrix metering (3 metering 
modes) and Casio has matrix metering (1 metering mode)

5. Pentax is smaller and lighter than the Casio and cased with textured 
aluminum alloy. The Casio is larger and heavier than the Pentax and 
cased with plastic.

6. Pentax specs 11 MB of int. mem. and Casio specs 10 MB

7. Pentax has a customizable user function, but Casio doesn't

8. Pentax has time lapse modes that Casio doesn't, but Pentax has no 
double exposure and Casio does

9. Pentax has a voice memo mode which Casio doesn't (carry a note pad 
and a pencil along with your cradle and cable)

10. Pentax has "6x zoom" (2x digital by 3x optical) and Casio has "12x 
zoom" (4x digital by 3x optical)

Specwise, the Pentax appeals to me more than the Casio does.

Dan scott



Re: Optio S first look

2003-02-09 Thread Paul Franklin Stregevsky
Lasse Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Apart from it's size, can anybody roughly tell me what the Optio S offers in
terms of specifications in comparison to other existing digital Point and
Shoots in the same price range?

You might want to consider the Casio version. The Casio--I can't think of
its model name--is a little larger and thicker, but it has some advantages:

1. You can shoot at ISO 320 (vs. Pentax's ISO 200).
2. You can transfer your images to your PC easily with a docking station.
3. You can shoot images at 1600 x 1200 and 1280 x 960. I think the Pentax
offers nothing in-between its maximum and 1024 x 768.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 





Re: Optio S first look

2003-02-09 Thread Paul Franklin Stregevsky
Bruce wrote:
>It's tiny, cute and will get you lots of babes.

Yep. It's the Canon Elph redeux. The Elph, men learned, was a babe
magnet--better than pherimones.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 





Re: Optio S first look

2003-02-06 Thread Iren & Henry Chu

The official list price of Optio S in Japan is 65,000 yen, which is 5,000 
yen more than Optio 330GS.  Very attractive!

Regards,

Henry Chu
7/2/2003

From: Keith Whaley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Good afternoon, Lasse!

Lasse Karlsson wrote:
>
> Maybe it's already been mentioned, but in that case I've missed it -
> what will the initial street price be?

The MSLP is said to be set at $425 at introduction, and street price
is expected to be only some $15-20 lower.  That's only what I've read
online...I have no way to know whether it's true or not.

> Apart from it's size, can anybody roughly tell me what the Optio S
> offers in terms of specifications in comparison to other existing
> digital Point and Shoots in the same price range?
> (I am not up to date on digitals.)

Look at this, from Pentax themselves:

http://www.pentax.com/products/cameras/camera_overview.cfm?productid=18263

There is a convenient comparison section accessible from that page.

Also, a fairly comprehensive hands-on approach to a first look at the
camera.
This is a most excellent site:

http://www.letsgodigital.nl/webpages/firstlook/pentax/optioS/pentax_OptioS_uk.html

> Or in other words:
> Why should I buy it?

It will produce most excellent 4x6 photos or larger, with beautiful
color and no noticeable lens physical (distortion) or chromatic
aberrations, free from flare and glare. Beautiful SMC Pentax
lens...with a maximum aperture of f/2.6, an equivalent 35mm focal
length of 35mm to 105mm, and an impressive manual focus range from 2.4
inches to infinity!
The other "why buy" reasons are up to you. If you want the most
features with very credible performance, in the smallest package, this
about fills the bill.

> Why should I not?

Only you can answer that. What is it you _must_ have that the S
doesn't provide? No-one else can answer that for you.

> (Other than the possible disadvantages of the
> sliding lenses etc.)

That this unique feature might be a 'disadvantage' in any way still
has to be proven. Right now that is in the realm of wild supposition,
with no single fact in evidence to support it.
If that possibility bothers you, you could wait some 5 or 6 years, see
if anyone reports problems from lens group misalignment... 

>
> Lasse

keith whaley



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Re: Optio S first look

2003-02-06 Thread Keith Whaley
Good afternoon, Lasse!

Lasse Karlsson wrote:
> 
> Maybe it's already been mentioned, but in that case I've missed it -
> what will the initial street price be?

The MSLP is said to be set at $425 at introduction, and street price
is expected to be only some $15-20 lower.  That's only what I've read
online...I have no way to know whether it's true or not.

> Apart from it's size, can anybody roughly tell me what the Optio S
> offers in terms of specifications in comparison to other existing
> digital Point and Shoots in the same price range?
> (I am not up to date on digitals.)

Look at this, from Pentax themselves:

http://www.pentax.com/products/cameras/camera_overview.cfm?productid=18263

There is a convenient comparison section accessible from that page.

Also, a fairly comprehensive hands-on approach to a first look at the
camera. 
This is a most excellent site:

http://www.letsgodigital.nl/webpages/firstlook/pentax/optioS/pentax_OptioS_uk.html
 
> Or in other words:
> Why should I buy it?

It will produce most excellent 4x6 photos or larger, with beautiful
color and no noticeable lens physical (distortion) or chromatic
aberrations, free from flare and glare. Beautiful SMC Pentax
lens...with a maximum aperture of f/2.6, an equivalent 35mm focal
length of 35mm to 105mm, and an impressive manual focus range from 2.4
inches to infinity!
The other "why buy" reasons are up to you. If you want the most
features with very credible performance, in the smallest package, this
about fills the bill.

> Why should I not? 

Only you can answer that. What is it you _must_ have that the S
doesn't provide? No-one else can answer that for you.

> (Other than the possible disadvantages of the
> sliding lenses etc.)

That this unique feature might be a 'disadvantage' in any way still
has to be proven. Right now that is in the realm of wild supposition,
with no single fact in evidence to support it. 
If that possibility bothers you, you could wait some 5 or 6 years, see
if anyone reports problems from lens group misalignment... 

> 
> Lasse

keith whaley




Re: Optio S first look

2003-02-06 Thread Antti-Pekka Virjonen
Well said :-)

Antti-Pekka

At 08:51 6.2.2003 -0500, you wrote:
>It's tiny, cute and will get you lots of babes.
>
>BR
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>>Why should I buy it?
>> 
>

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Re: Optio S first look

2003-02-06 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
It's tiny, cute and will get you lots of babes.

BR

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Why should I buy it?
 






Re: Re: Optio S first look

2003-02-06 Thread Lasse Karlsson
Maybe it's already been mentioned, but in that case I've missed it -
what will the initial street price be?
Apart from it's size, can anybody roughly tell me what the Optio S
offers in terms of specifications in comparison to other existing
digital Point and Shoots in the same price range?
(I am not up to date on digitals.)

Or in other words:
Why should I buy it?
Why should I not? (Other than the possible disadvantages of the
sliding lenses etc.)

Lasse





Re: Re: Optio S first look

2003-02-06 Thread scars
Hi!
I'm not sure whether someone has posted it already or maybe everybody
else had already seen it, but on the pentax europe page are detailed
specificatins of it...
http://www.pentaxeurope.com/v2/en/photo/cameras/Digital/optio_s/index.html
http://www.pentaxeurope.com/v2/en/photo/cameras/Digital/optio_s/spec.html
bye Katrin

Keith Whaley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 06.02.2003, 12:50:16:
> 
> 
> Dan Scott wrote:
> > 
> > http://www.letsgodigital.nl/webpages/firstlook/pentax/optioS/pentax_OptioS_uk.html
> >  has a first up on the Optio S. Haven't read it
> > yet, but that's what I'm doing after I hit send.
> 
> I just visited there myself, and it's far and away the best look I've
> had yet. Very good site!
> 
> keith whaley




Re: Optio S first look

2003-02-06 Thread Keith Whaley


Dan Scott wrote:
> 
> http://www.letsgodigital.nl/webpages/firstlook/pentax/optioS/pentax_OptioS_uk.html
>  has a first up on the Optio S. Haven't read it
> yet, but that's what I'm doing after I hit send.

I just visited there myself, and it's far and away the best look I've
had yet. Very good site!

keith whaley




Re: Optio S first look

2003-02-05 Thread Gary L. Murphy
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003 20:53:23 -0600, Dan Scott wrote:

>http://www.letsgodigital.nl/webpages/firstlook/pentax/optioS/ 
>pentax_OptioS_uk.html  has a first up on the Optio S. Haven't read it  
>yet, but that's what I'm doing after I hit send.

I REALLY loved the comment telling Canon to start packing  :-)




Later,
Gary





RE: Optio S: joint development with Casio (was Re: Pentax and Casio to merge?)

2003-01-09 Thread Peter Alling
I don't see why not, you would be using a Pentax Lens.

At 07:07 PM 1/9/2003 -0500, you wrote:

On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Iren & Henry Chu wrote:
> The new Casio EX-Z3 looks very similar to Pentax Optio S:

It is indeed a sister camera of Optio S:

http://www.exilim.jp/ex_z3/index.html

where you can see the same SMC Pentax Zoom Lens logo in front

I can't resist playing Devil's advocate.

Where it has a SMC Pentax lens would we be able (legally) to use the Casio
to post on the PUG ?

BUTCH

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RE: Optio S: joint development with Casio (was Re: Pentax and Casio to merge?)

2003-01-09 Thread Butch Black
On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Iren & Henry Chu wrote:
> The new Casio EX-Z3 looks very similar to Pentax Optio S:

It is indeed a sister camera of Optio S:

http://www.exilim.jp/ex_z3/index.html

where you can see the same SMC Pentax Zoom Lens logo in front

I can't resist playing Devil's advocate.

Where it has a SMC Pentax lens would we be able (legally) to use the Casio
to post on the PUG ?

BUTCH

"Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself"
Hermann Hesse (Demian)




RE: Optio S specifications

2003-01-09 Thread Rob Brigham
Yeah and a docking cradle (I don't think the Optio has that?).  The
casio looks better on the surface at the moment...

> -Original Message-
> From: Dario Bonazza 2 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: 09 January 2003 11:50
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Optio S specifications
> 
> 
> Published in both my websites:
> 
> Pentax Club: www.aohc.it
> Digital photography news: www.fotone.it
> 
> Direct link to specs page: http://www.fotone.it/pentax/prpen301e.htm
> 
> Okay, okay, I'm way too late, but has everybody seen the full 
> specs table? Isn't it interesting that Casio EX-Z3 features a 
> wider LCD than Pentax Opto S?
> 
> Bye,
> 
> Dario Bonazza
> 
> http://www.dariobonazza.com
> 
>