Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-10-27 Thread tuc

gharris999;585398 Wrote: 
> Thanks for that.
> 
> I'm not really sure how hwclock determines if the hardware clock is set
> to local or to UTC.  But if the time reported by hwclock appears to be
> UTC, then, yes, you should use %d rather than %l.
> 
> Re end-of-day action:  yes the plugin is supposed to treat the EOD
> action as a "alarm" and schedule a system wake-up IF the action is set
> to a custom script and IF the EOD idle-timeout is set to zero.  E.g.,
> with my Fedora system, I use the following SrvrPowerCtrl settings:
> 
> Perform end-of-day action? check
> Allowed idle time (minutes): 0
> End-of-day start & end times (HH:MM): 2:00 AM, 2:05 AM
> Custom end-of-day action command: sudo /usr/local/sbin/spc-update.sh
> 
> With these settings, the server gets woken up at 1:55 AM and then fires
> off the /usr/local/sbin/spc-update.sh script at 2:00 am.  That script
> shuts down SBS (I'm running from the 7.6 svn code, so it's: service
> squeezeboxserver_trunk stop), updates the SBS svn code (svn up
> /usr/share/squeezeboxserver_trunk/server), updates the operating system
> (yum update -y) and then reboots the system.
> 
> If you want to have your EOD script perform similar sorts of chores,
> make sure you add an entry for the script in the /etc/sudoers file.
> 
> Here is the similar sort of script I use with my ubuntu server.  You'll
> want to clean this up a bit:
> 
> > 
Code:

  >   > 
  > #!/bin/bash
  > clear
  > #
  > # Vars:
  > NOREBOOT=0
  > WIPEDB=0
  > SPCLOGFILE=""
  > SVNLOGFILE=/var/log/squeezeboxserver_trunk/svn.log
  > UDAPSVNLOGFILE=/usr/local/sbin/Net-UDAP/svn.log
  > TMPFILE=$( /bin/mktemp -t )
  > APTFILE=$( /bin/mktemp -t )
  > MYNAME="your_em...@your_isp.net"
  > MYOS=`uname -r`
  > HOST=`hostname`
  > SERVICE=`/bin/ps ax | grep " /usr/sbin/squeezeboxserver "`
  > 
  > #
  > # Update prep..
  > 
  > /bin/echo "Updating Squeezebox Server and operating system $MYOS.."
  > 
  > for ARG in $*
  > do
  > case $ARG in
  > --noreboot)
  > NOREBOOT=1
  > echo 'System WILL NOT reboot..'
  > ;;
  > 
  > --wipedb)
  > WIPEDB=1
  > echo 'SBS db file WILL BE wiped..'
  > ;;
  > *)
  > esac
  > done
  > 
  > #
  > # Stop squeezeboxserver..
  > 
  > if (( $(echo $SERVICE | egrep -c "/usr/bin/perl") >= 1 ))
  > then
  > SPCLOGFILE=/var/log/squeezeboxserver/srvrpowerctrl.log
  > /usr/sbin/service squeezeboxserver stop
  > else
  > SPCLOGFILE=/var/log/squeezeboxserver_trunk/srvpowerctrl.log
  > /usr/sbin/service squeezeboxserver_trunk stop
  > fi
  > 
  > #/bin/echo "SPC Logging to $SPCLOGFILE.."
  > #/bin/echo "SVN Logging to $SVNLOGFILE.."
  > #/bin/echo "MSG Logging to $TMPFILE.."
  > #/bin/echo "Service == $SERVICE"
  > 
  > 
  > #
  > # Construct message header:
  > 
  > /bin/echo return-path: $MYNAME >> $TMPFILE
  > /bin/echo for: $MYNAME >> $TMPFILE
  > /bin/echo from: $MYNAME >> $TMPFILE
  > /bin/echo to: $MYNAME >> $TMPFILE
  > /bin/echo "subject: $HOST server update status report" >> $TMPFILE
  > 
  > /bin/echo $0 start: $( /bin/date +%c ) >> $TMPFILE
  > /bin/echo $0 start: $( /bin/date +%c ) >> $SPCLOGFILE
  > 
  > #
  > # Update the svn code..
  > /bin/echo 'Checking for squeezeboxserver_trunk svn updates...'
  > /bin/echo Svn update of squeezeboxserver_trunk was run: $( /bin/date +%c ) 
>> $TMPFILE
  > /bin/echo Svn update of squeezeboxserver_trunk was run: $( /bin/date +%c ) 
>> $SPCLOGFILE
  > /bin/echo Svn update of squeezeboxserver_trunk was run: $( /bin/date +%c ) 
>> $SVNLOGFILE
  > /usr/bin/svn up /usr/share/squeezeboxserver_trunk/server >>$SVNLOGFILE
  > echo 'Fixing file permissions...'
  > chown -R squeezeboxserver:nogroup /etc/squeezeboxserver_trunk
  > chown -R squeezeboxserver:nogroup /usr/share/squeezeboxserver_trunk
  > chown -R squeezeboxserver:nogroup /var/lib/squeezeboxserver_trunk
  > chown -R squeezeboxserver:nogroup /var/log/squeezeboxserver_trunk
  > 
  > #
  > # Update the Net-UDAP...
  > 
  > echo 'Checking for UDAP updates..'
  > /bin/echo Svn update of UDAP was run: $( /bin/date +%c ) >> $TMPFILE
  > /bin/echo Svn update of UDAP was run: $( /bin/date +%c ) >> $SPCLOGFILE
  > /bin/echo Svn update of UDAP was run: $( /bin/date +%c ) >> $UDAPSVNLOGFILE
  > /usr/bin/svn up /usr/local/sbin/Net-UDAP >> $UDAPSVNLOGFILE
  > 
  > 
  > #
  > # Update the OS (and any apt installed squeezeboxserver..
  > 
  > /bin/echo APT-GET Update was run: $( /bin/date +%c ) >> $TMPFILE
  > 
  > /bin/echo >> $TMPFILE
  > /bin/echo -n "Result: " >> $TMPFILE
  > 
  > /bin/echo 'Running apt-get update..'
  > 
  > /usr/bin/apt-get 

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-10-26 Thread gharris999

tuc;585229 Wrote: 
> Thanks Epoch1970,
> 
> Yes I did miss the steps in spc-wakeup.sh completely. Sorry.
> It now almost works, but not quite - the wake up occurs two hours too
> late - weird
> 
> Here is what I did:
> 1) Complete the steps in spc-wakeup.sh
> 2) The test command gives me the two lines:   
> Sun Oct 24 18:23:10 CEST 2010: /usr/local/sbin/spc-wakeup.sh
> 1230493944
> Setting /sys/class/rtc/rtc0/wakealarm to 1230493944 (2008-12-28
> 19:52:24)
> in in /var/log/squeezeboxserver/srvrpowerctrl.log
> is this correct?
> 3) I setup SrvrPowerCtrl to go to suspend mode after 45 minutes idle
> time
> 4) I set an alarm for 4:57 AM (I run a script at 5:01 AM from crontab)
> 5) I schedule a library rescan in SBS for 4:01 AM
> 6) Here is the /var/log/squeezeboxserver/srvrpowerctrl.log content:
> Mon Oct 25 07:48:44 CEST 2010: /usr/local/sbin/spc-wakeup.sh
> 1288065360
> Setting /sys/class/rtc/rtc0/wakealarm to 1288065360 (2010-10-26
> 03:56:00)
> This corresponds to the scheduled rescan and looks right (wake up 5
> minutes before scan as set up in SrvrPowerCtrl). I don't see any entry
> for the alarm (and I suppose I should)
> 7) Here is what the /var/log/squeezeboxserver/server.log showed today:
> [10-10-26 05:56:07.6149]
> Plugins::SrvrPowerCtrl::Watchdog::OnWakeupWatchdog (347) Wakeup Call!!
> [10-10-26 06:40:10.0037] Plugins::SrvrPowerCtrl::Util::SystemExecCmd
> (310) Now trying to execute sudo /usr/local/sbin/spc-wakeup.sh
> 1288151760
> [10-10-26 06:40:16.0039] Plugins::SrvrPowerCtrl::Util::SystemExecCmd
> (310) Now trying to execute sudo /usr/sbin/pm-suspend
> 8) I see no trace of my alarm set for 4:57. As far as I can tell both
> the server.log and the SrvrPowerCtrl.log should show this, right? 
> 9) The machine did wake up for the rescan, but at 05:56:07 not at 5
> minutes before 4:01 (3:56) and the rescan did not run. My conclusion
> there is a funny two hour difference between the scheduled wake up time
> and the actual wake up time
> 10) Running the date command from the command line gives me the correct
> (local Danish) time (GMT+1) and we are still on daylight saving so
> another +1 hour (=CEST) - is this an issue and how could I compensate?
> 
> Best
> -thomas
Questions for you:

What operating system are you using?  

Is your hardware clock set to local time (as with windows and some
versions of Ubuntu) or to UTC?  From a terminal prompt, do:

# sudo hwclock --show --debug


Which variable are you using in the SrvrPowerCtrl settings for the
"Schedule Wakeup Command"?  %d or %l??  If your hardware clock is set
to local time, then you should be using %l rather than %d.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-10-26 Thread tuc

Thanks Epoch1970,

Yes I did miss the steps in spc-wakeup.sh completely. Sorry.
It now almost works, but not quite - the wake up occurs two hours too
late - weird

Here is what I did:
1) Complete the steps in spc-wakeup.sh
2) The test command gives me the two lines:   
Sun Oct 24 18:23:10 CEST 2010: /usr/local/sbin/spc-wakeup.sh
1230493944
Setting /sys/class/rtc/rtc0/wakealarm to 1230493944 (2008-12-28
19:52:24)
in in /var/log/squeezeboxserver/srvrpowerctrl.log
is this correct?
3) I setup SrvrPowerCtrl to go to suspend mode after 45 minutes idle
time
4) I set an alarm for 4:57 AM (I run a script at 5:01 AM from crontab)
5) I schedule a library rescan in SBS for 4:01 AM
6) Here is the /var/log/squeezeboxserver/srvrpowerctrl.log content:
Mon Oct 25 07:48:44 CEST 2010: /usr/local/sbin/spc-wakeup.sh
1288065360
Setting /sys/class/rtc/rtc0/wakealarm to 1288065360 (2010-10-26
03:56:00)
This corresponds to the scheduled rescan and looks right (wake up 5
minutes before scan as set up in SrvrPowerCtrl). I don't see any entry
for the alarm (and I suppose I should)
7) Here is what the /var/log/squeezeboxserver/server.log showed today:
[10-10-26 05:56:07.6149]
Plugins::SrvrPowerCtrl::Watchdog::OnWakeupWatchdog (347) Wakeup Call!!
[10-10-26 06:40:10.0037] Plugins::SrvrPowerCtrl::Util::SystemExecCmd
(310) Now trying to execute sudo /usr/local/sbin/spc-wakeup.sh
1288151760
[10-10-26 06:40:16.0039] Plugins::SrvrPowerCtrl::Util::SystemExecCmd
(310) Now trying to execute sudo /usr/sbin/pm-suspend
8) I see no trace of my alarm set for 4:57. As far as I can tell both
the server.log and the SrvrPowerCtrl.log should show this, right? 
9) The machine did wake up for the rescan, but at 05:56:07 not at 5
minutes before 4:01 (3:56) and the rescan did not run. My conclusion
there is a funny two hour difference between the scheduled wake up time
and the actual wake up time
10) Running the date command from the command line gives me the correct
(local Danish) time (GMT+1) and we are still on daylight saving so
another +1 hour (=CEST) - is this an issue and how could I compensate?

Best
-thomas


epoch1970;584586 Wrote: 
> yes that's an l as in lion.
> Did you look into the logifle  ? (in
> /var/log/squeezeboxserver/srvrpowerctrl.log)
> Did you try the manual steps described in the header of the script file
> spc-wakeup.sh ? 
> 
> Also, last time I checked (a while ago), linux was not able to wake
> from S5 (soft-off) on alarm. You can't shutdown and have the machine
> bounce to life.
> And last time I used this, my platform was able to wake on alarm from
> S3 (suspend) but not from S4 (hibernate). This depends on the machine.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-10-25 Thread zegermans

gharris999;584715 Wrote: 
> Sorry...you're right.  I haven't looked into this yet.

Any chance of it being fixed soon?
It's much better if the plugin installation/update's can be taken care
of by squeezeboxserver :)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-10-23 Thread gharris999

Moffedille;584709 Wrote: 
> Unless gharris999 has fixed the aforementioned repository problem, you
> probably won't be able to install the beta version.  Or, you will be
> able to install it, but not to configure and use it, because the plugin
> page will constantly be saying that there's an updated plugin version to
> install first - which it can't.
Sorry...you're right.  I haven't looked into this yet.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-10-23 Thread Moffedille

epoch1970;584613 Wrote: 
> 
> For what I see gharris999 proposes to use his beta repository for SBS
> 7.4 and above.
> If you add repository
> "http://srvrpowerctrl.googlecode.com/svn/beta.xml";, this pulls version
> 20091215.121332.
> I would suggest to deinstall the current version via the Plugins page,
> and only after that add the new repository, and finally install the
> beta version.
> 

Unless gharris999 has fixed the aforementioned repository problem, you
probably won't be able to install the beta version.  Or, you will be
able to install it, but not to configure and use it, because the plugin
page will constantly be saying that there's an updated plugin version to
install first - which it can't.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-10-23 Thread epoch1970

ASenna04;584589 Wrote: 
> On Squeezeserver in the plugin page it shows as "Server Power Control
> (v20090615.00)". Is this the old version? If so how do I uninstall and
> install the latest? Will I have to remove everything and start again or
> I can just change the plugin on the Squeezeserver.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> ASenna04
I am not so sure a newer version will fix anything. I don't use X.6 and
I don't have an SB server on the mac, so really what I am saying is
speculation.

I think I remember the beta version was working better with SBS 7.5 on
linux, but I didn't use that version of SBS for long, I can't be
certain.

On my linux machine I currently use the save version of server power
control as you do. For me server power control runs fine, I use SBS
7.4.2 (a not so recent version) on linux.
I found the install script and it says "Setting up OSX SrvrPowerCtrl
helper scripts for user $scuser .."

So:
- Your Server Power Control package seems correct. 
- *Perhaps* a later version of the plugin, which uses an updated
install script, fits better with SBS 7.5, or X.6 ?

For what I see gharris999 proposes to use his beta repository for SBS
7.4 and above.gharris999;308728 Wrote: 
> Note for users of Squeezebox Server 7.4 and later: There is a beta of
> SrvrPowerCtrl that 'plays nicer' with this version.
If you add repository
"http://srvrpowerctrl.googlecode.com/svn/beta.xml";, this pulls version
20091215.121332.
I would suggest to deinstall the current version via the Plugins page,
and only after that add the new repository, and finally install the
beta version.

If the new script doesn't fix things, you could try to do what the
script does, manually. That would be a good way to pinpoint a possible
problem with the script, also.

Good luck.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-10-23 Thread ASenna04

epoch1970;584274 Wrote: 
> According to the trace "Setting up OSX SrvrPowerCtrl helper scripts for
> user Imtihaz .." 
> the script you're running there might be file
> "srvrpowerctrl-setup.old.sh" from June 20th, 2009, rev. 13 of the code
> source. All further revisions echo a different message at startup.
> This is not the current version. Latest version in "r44 by
> srvrpowerctrl on Nov 07, 2009".
> 
> I suggest you follow instructions on the 1st post of this thread and/or
> the homepage of 'srvrpowercontrol'
> (http://code.google.com/p/srvrpowerctrl/) on Google Code to locate and
> get the appropriate version to install.

On Squeezeserver in the plugin page it shows as "Server Power Control
(v20090615.00)". Is this the old version? If so how do I uninstall and
install the latest? Will I have to remove everything and start again or
I can just change the plugin on the Squeezeserver.

Thanks,

ASenna04


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-10-23 Thread epoch1970

yes that's an l as in lion.
Did you look into the logifle srvrpowerctrl.log ? (in
/var/log/squeezeboxserver/...)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-10-23 Thread tuc

Hi

First of all thanks for this nifty and CO-2 friendly plugin :-)

I installed it and after changing "squeezecenter" to "squeezeboxserver"
in various places in scripts and UID I quite easily got it up and
running on my 10.04 Ubuntu.

I set it up so the server goes to suspend mode after 15 minutes idle
time, which works fine. I can wake up the server from my Duet
controller no problem.

I would like, however, the server to be able to 1) wake up sometime
during the night and check for Ubuntu updates and 2) occasionally
rescan the music library.

I have a script to do 1) and scheduled it to run through crontab, but
the server has to be awake at the time specified. I tried waking it up
with an alarm, but with no success.

As for 2) the server doesn't wake up for scheduled scans. I guess for
the same reason as 1) whatever that is.

How can I find out why the server doesn't wake up? It seems odd since
it is able to wake up by the controller. So WOL works.

Best
-thomas

PS: I have used the sudo /usr/local/sbin/spc-wakeup.sh %l to use the
local time rather than UTC. It is the letter "l" rather than then
number "1" (one) right?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-10-21 Thread epoch1970

ASenna04;583929 Wrote: 
> OK, help me here. What did I do wrong? Find attached the log of my
> Terminal actions to setup SvrPowerControl.
> 
> I have Mac Mini on OS X 10.6.4 and Squeeze Server 7.4.1
> 
> I control the Squeezeserver with iPeng and I have a Touch, a Boom and a
> SB3.
> 
> Thanks in advance for your help.
> 
> 
> ASenna04
According to the trace "Setting up OSX SrvrPowerCtrl helper scripts for
user Imtihaz .." 
the script you're running there might be file
"srvrpowerctrl-setup.old.sh" from June 20th, 2009, rev. 13 of the code
source. All further revisions echo a different message at startup.
This is not the current version. Latest version in "r44 by
srvrpowerctrl on Nov 07, 2009".

I suggest you follow instructions on the 1st post of this thread and/or
the homepage of 'srvrpowercontrol'
(http://code.google.com/p/srvrpowerctrl/) on Google Code to locate and
get the appropriate version to install.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-10-19 Thread danco

ASenna04;583929 Wrote: 
> OK, help me here. What did I do wrong? Find attached the log of my
> Terminal actions to setup SvrPowerControl.
> 
> 

Did you in fact do anything wrong? Or did the plugin do anything wrong?
It may be that trying to make a plugin that works across different
operating systems generates spurious error messages.

I say this because things like chown work on files and folders, and the
message "not a directory" may be no more than a warning.

Are the relevant files mentioned in the logs present in /usr/local/sbin
(/usr is normally invisible, but can be reached using the Go menu in the
Finder)? Does the plugin work?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-10-19 Thread gharris999

ASenna04;583946 Wrote: 
> This evening is fine.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Imtihaz
Sorry, not this evening either.  Just too tired to think.  I may have
some time tomorrow evening.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-10-19 Thread ASenna04

gharris999;583931 Wrote: 
> Sorry, I can't look at this right away.  I'm still playing catch-up. 
> I'll try to look through this, this evening.

This evening is fine.

Thanks.

Imtihaz


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-10-19 Thread gharris999

ASenna04;583929 Wrote: 
> OK, help me here. What did I do wrong? Find attached the log of my
> Terminal actions to setup SvrPowerControl.
> 
> I have Mac Mini on OS X 10.6.4 and Squeeze Server 7.4.1
> 
> I control the Squeezeserver with iPeng and I have a Touch, a Boom and a
> SB3.
> 
> Thanks in advance for your help.
> 
> 
> ASenna04
Sorry, I can't look at this right away.  I'm still playing catch-up. 
I'll try to look through this, this evening.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-10-19 Thread ASenna04

OK, help me here. What did I do wrong? Find attached the log of my
Terminal actions to setup SvrPowerControl.

I have Mac Mini on OS X 10.6.4 and Squeeze Server 7.4.1

I control the Squeezeserver with iPeng and I have a Touch, a Boom and a
SB3.

Thanks in advance for your help.


ASenna04


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-10-06 Thread varunaX

Thanks.  I do have win7 so ill try it when i get home


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-10-06 Thread gharris999

varunaX;581155 Wrote: 
> hey gharris, can you help me better understand the wake 5 mins before an
> alarm feature.  on my laptop when i close the screen the laptop sleeps. 
> i have the option to wwake the computer before an alarm, but its not
> waking the computer.  is there something im missing?  i have the
> svpowertool.exe installed too.  thanks

If you put your laptop to sleep via closing the lid, SrvrPowerCtrl
never "gets the memo" that the system is going to sleep.  If your OS on
the laptop is windows, there may be something we can do about that in
the future.  But for now, use SrvrPowerCtrl's web menu to sleep the
laptop.  If you do that, the wake for alarm feature should work.

If it still won't wake for alarms, and if the OS on the laptop is
Windows 7, then there is a system setting you need to change.  With
administrative credentials, go to the Windows 7 Control Panel->Power
Options->Edit Plan Settings->Change advanced power settings->Change
settings that are currently unavailable->Sleep->Allow wake
timers->Plugged in->Enable & On battery->Enable.

Making those changes allows SCPowerTool.exe to wake up the laptop.  As
far as I know, defaulting defaulting disabled wake timers when plugged
in is new with Windows 7.

Now, if your OS is something other then Windows 7, then we've got a
little more spelunking to do.  

But please wait a few days before we continue this.  I'm just about to
fly back from Europe and I always have really wicked jet lag since it's
about 24 hours of travel time to get back to my home in the sticks.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-10-06 Thread varunaX

hey gharris, can you help me better understand the wake 5 mins before an
alarm feature.  on my laptop when i close the screen the laptop sleeps. 
i have the option to wwake the computer before an alarm, but its not
waking the computer.  is there something im missing?  i have the
svpowertool.exe installed too.  thanks


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-10-05 Thread Moffedille

gharris999;580879 Wrote: 
> Not sure about the tab getting stuck.  It could be.  Maybe try removing
> my repo from the list of manually installed 3rd party repos?  You might
> have to stop SBS and manually remove the reference from a prefs file.
> 
> Re ot/sailboat: It's a Hallberg-Rassy 49' (Swedish make, sloop rigged)
> from 1985:
> http://hegardtfoundation.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/20100712-121430_WGH.jpg
> 
> It's first owners did a circumnavigation with it and it currently
> belongs to my neighbors who have discovered that cruising the med in
> your 70s and 80s isn't quite the same as cruising in your 50s.  As
> they've had to take various "medical leaves" from the boat, they've
> occasionally made it available to me.  Even though it's at the age now
> where everything is worn and brittle (pull hard enough on anything and
> it will break off in your hands) this is still one tough boat.  A
> little over a week ago, we got lured out of Korčula by a
> sucker-hole in the morning and got run over by a thunderstorm with a
> honest to god hooked shaped radar signature.  Pegged the wind-speed
> indicator at >50 knots. With the cockpit enclosure rigged and running
> before the wind with a bare pole, we all stayed comfortable (if a
> little anxious) and the boat was very well behaved.

I unchecked the "automatically update plugin modules" option, and thus
prevented the endless server restart problem. It seems SBS wants to
update the srvpwrctrl plugin to the newest version, which it can't, due
to the aforementioned repo problem. Perhaps I'll just install the plugin
the oldfashioned way...

OT again: 49 feet of HR, that's a nice and spacious boat! It's good to
be in something larger than an eggshell when a storm of that magnitude
hits. My six year old son and I spent some days in a 33ft X-yacht this
summer, and we were hit by a fresh gale one afternoon. My biggest
concern was that my son was going to get seasick or scared, but he
slept soundly through the night.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-10-05 Thread gharris999

Moffedille;580862 Wrote: 
> ..ok, maybe the repo-problem is the source for one of my current
> frustrations, with the plugin tab seemingly stuck in a sort of endless
> restart-mode?
> 
> OT: Gordon, may I ask what kind (make/size) of sailboat you've got?
Not sure about the tab getting stuck.  It could be.  Maybe try removing
my repo from the list of manually installed 3rd party repos?  You might
have to stop SBS and manually remove the reference from a prefs file.

Re ot/sailboat: It's a Hallberg-Rassy 49' (Swedish make, sloop rigged)
from 1985:
http://hegardtfoundation.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/20100712-121430_WGH.jpg

It's first owners did a circumnavigation with it and it currently
belongs to my neighbors who have discovered that cruising the med in
your 70s and 80s isn't quite the same as cruising in your 50s.  As
they've had to take various "medical leaves" from the boat, they've
occasionally made it available to me.  Even though it's at the age now
where everything is worn and brittle (pull hard enough on anything and
it will break off in your hands) this is still one tough boat.  A
little over a week ago, we got lured out of Korčula by a
sucker-hole in the morning and got run over by a thunderstorm with a
honest to god hooked shaped radar signature.  Pegged the wind-speed
indicator at >50 knots. With the cockpit enclosure rigged and running
before the wind with a bare pole, we all stayed comfortable (if a
little anxious) and the boat was very well behaved.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-10-05 Thread Moffedille

..ok, maybe the repo-problem is the source for one of my current
frustrations, with the plugin tab seemingly stuck in a sort of endless
restart-mode?

OT: Gordon, may I ask what kind (make/size) of sailboat you've got?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-10-03 Thread wonder boy

Thank you Gordon, I don't quite know what to say...err perhaps a good
close manicure might be in order before you begin repairs?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-10-03 Thread gharris999

No, it's not just you.  I screwed up the repo just before I left for
Croatia in June and it's been broken ever since.  I (finally) get back
to New Mexico at the end of the week and I'll be able to address it
then.  In the mean time, I have a sail boat to put to bed for the
season and this includes rebuilding two marine toilets.  Which would I
rather be doing: fixing a few characters in an xml file, or futzing
with a bucket full of very small parts covered in fecal matter?  Why is
this yachting stuff considered fun?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-10-03 Thread wonder boy

Don't know if it's just me but I couldn't get the beta version repo to
install as listed at the beginning of this thread, is it still
available?

Installed the non beta alternative on SBS 7.5.1 hopefully will be ok


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-08-27 Thread wenkman

Hi there!

Thanks for this fantastic plugin! But I have a question: in Squeezeplay
run under WinXP I don't have an icon in front if "Server Power Control"
in my main menu?

I downloaded the last version just a few days ago. Do I need to put the
icon myself somewhere so Squeezeplay / Server get it?

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-08-15 Thread danco

Should the custom commands work on the Radio?

I have gone to the Server Power Control item on my Home Page, and
selected a command. SPC reports that it will run the command in 15
seconds, and then reports that it has run the command.

But the command is not actually run on my Mac.

I take it that the automatic action on not-idle is not intended to be
carried out, and that one has to choose from the menu. Or is that
supposed to work, but just failing in the same  way that the items
chosen from the menu are failing?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-08-07 Thread shawje

All working well. Thanks for your help Danco and Phil and thanks for the
plugin Gordon.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-08-07 Thread Phil Meyer
>Phill: I'll take a look at this. I probably screwed up the XML file
>with my scripts that added PostScan. Where did you report this problem?
>I missed your report.
>
New post in this forum, around the end of July.  I thought you were away; 
wasn't expecting you to respond for a while!

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-08-07 Thread gharris999

Philip Meyer;567071 Wrote: 
> I reported a problem using Extension Downloader to install this plugin. 
> The problem is the version numbering doesn't match between the
> repository xml file and the plugin that is downloaded.
> 
> I downloaded the plugin manually and installed manually instead.

Phill: I'll take a look at this. I probably screwed up the XML file
with my scripts that added PostScan. Where did you report this problem?
I missed your report.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-08-06 Thread Phil Meyer
>Thanks Philip  - I'm glad it's not me being stupid.  I'll have a go at
>doing the same.  Any idea where I can find an idiot's guide to manually
>installing the plugin on a Mac?
Should be the same on any OS.

1. Uninstall any automatically installed SrvPowerControl plugin.
2. Find the download url via looking in the xml repository file.
3. Download, and unzip into the Plugins folder within the SBS installation 
folder.

i.e. (On windows) I have: 
P:\Music\SlimServer\trunk\server\Plugins\SrvrPowerCtrl\

4. Restart SBS.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-08-06 Thread shawje

Philip Meyer;567071 Wrote: 
> I reported a problem using Extension Downloader to install this plugin. 
> The problem is the version numbering doesn't match between the
> repository xml file and the plugin that is downloaded.
> 
> I downloaded the plugin manually and installed manually instead.

Thanks Philip  - I'm glad it's not me being stupid.  I'll have a go at
doing the same.  Any idea where I can find an idiot's guide to manually
installing the plugin on a Mac?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-08-05 Thread Phil Meyer
I reported a problem using Extension Downloader to install this plugin.  The 
problem is the version numbering doesn't match between the repository xml file 
and the plugin that is downloaded.

I downloaded the plugin manually and installed manually instead.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-08-05 Thread danco

Sorry, I've never run into this problem and have no idea why the plugin
isn't downloading properly. I assume you did click "Apply".


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-08-05 Thread shawje

danco;566814 Wrote: 
> That's an old version of the plugin. I am using v20100115.005818. Unless
> there is some reason (such as the version of Squeezebox Server that you
> use) not to upgrade, I suggest you do so. That has the custom commands,
> I believe they were introduced at my request some time last autumn.
> 
> I suppose the situation you are seeing isn't strictly a bug. Your
> version of the plugin is intended to hibernate (suspend, shutdown) the
> computer on idle, so the issue could not occur, and you have hacked it
> to do something else. Anyway, the later version does not behave like
> that.
> 
> In the Plugins section of the web interface to Squeezebox Settings, at
> the bottom you will find a section for Additional Repositories. If you
> add http://srvrpowerctrl.googlecode.com/svn/beta.xml and click Apply
> (and maybe navigate away and back) Sever Power Control will show up and
> you can download it. I have my system set *NOT* to download updated
> plugins automatically, but you have the choice.

Unfortunately I can't get the beta version of the plugin to become
active.   I uninstalled the server software as best I could (seems
fairly inexact on a mac) in case that was the problem  and then
reinstalled.  Currently running v.7.5.1.  I can get the plugin to
appear in the list of updated plugins available above the list of
active plugins, but when I tick the checkbox and restart the server the
checkbox reappears clear and the plugin does not join the active list. 
In addition the plugins page is continually asking me to restart the
server even though it has been done many times (both manually and by
clicking restart).  Do you have any idea what's wrong?  Is this a
compatibility issue with v7.5 or maybe the code is not downloading from
the googlecode site, or possibly the old version of the plugin is not
completely uninstalled.

Thanks
Jonathan


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-08-05 Thread danco

shawje;566750 Wrote: 
> Thanks Danco.  I'm running v20090615.00 of the plugin and my settings
> screen has On-WakeUpActions  and then Restore Default Settings as the
> last two items on the settings page.  No sign of Custom Commands.  Any
> ideas?
> 
> 

That's an old version of the plugin. I am using v20100115.005818.
Unless there is some reason (such as the version of Squeezebox Server
that you use) not to upgrade, I suggest you do so. That has the custom
commands, I believe they were introduced at my request some time last
autumn.

I suppose the situation you are seeing isn't strictly a bug. Your
version of the plugin is intended to hibernate (suspend, shutdown) the
computer on idle, so the issue could not occur, and you have hacked it
to do something else. Anyway, the later version does not behave like
that.

In the Plugins section of the web interface to Squeezebox Settings, at
the bottom you will find a section for Additional Repositories. If you
add http://srvrpowerctrl.googlecode.com/svn/beta.xml and click Apply
(and maybe navigate away and back) Sever Power Control will show up and
you can download it. I have my system set *NOT* to download updated
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-08-04 Thread shawje

danco;566495 Wrote: 
> Right at the very bottom of the the SvrPowerControl settings is a
> section called Custom Commands, offering four spaces for commands and
> their labels. Create a script, and put the path to it in the right hand
> box, and give it a name in the left hand box. Then it will appear in the
> menu.
> 
> In the Idle Payer Monitor section of the settings you can set the idle
> time. It looks to me as though it is currently set for 15 minutes. And
> for that period of time SPC will regard the Squeezebox as not idle and
> run the not-idle script once a minute. I didn't know that the on-idle
> script seems to be run every five minutes.
> 
> You could always just power off the SB.

Thanks Danco.  I'm running v20090615.00 of the plugin and my settings
screen has On-WakeUpActions  and then Restore Default Settings as the
last two items on the settings page.  No sign of Custom Commands.  Any
ideas?

I turned off the player screensaver to see if that was causing the
issue and all players are switched off (but still plugged into the
mains).

I'd set the allowed idle time to 5 minutes for testing purposes.  What
seems to be happening is that every 5 minutes the onidle script is run
(in my case calling jigstop.sh) correctly.   The problem is that  the
server continues to call  every minute (seemingly incorrectly)  the
notidle script - in my case jigstart.sh - even though it has previously
decided that it is idle.   My thought is perhaps there is a bug such
that the notidle monitor doesn't correctly identify the notidle state. 
This would not be an issue to most people so long as the action on idle
is to power down, hibernate or suspend since in that case plugin would
immediately stop running. My setup causes the problem to become
apparent - the plugin correctly spots the server is idle after the 5
minutes have elapsed and stops jiggler. Unfortunately the server
remains running and then every one minute it runs the notidle script
restarting jiggler.  If I had set the server to shut down when it had
been idle for 5 minutes, I would be  unaware of any problem.  

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-08-04 Thread danco

Right at the very bottom of the the SvrPowerControl settings is a
section called Custom Commands, offering four spaces for commands and
their labels. Create a script, and put the path to it in the right hand
box, and give it a name in the left hand box. Then it will appear in the
menu.

In the Idle Payer Monitor section of the settings you can set the idle
time. It looks to me as though it is currently set for 15 minutes. And
for that period of time SPC will regard the Squeezebox as not idle and
run the not-idle script once a minute. I didn't know that the on-idle
script seems to be run every five minutes.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-08-04 Thread shawje

gharris999;566480 Wrote: 
> As I've posted above, I'm sitting on a sailboat in the Adriatic, seven
> time zones away from my squeezeboxes and servers.  I'd like to be able
> to help here, but my brain is too addled from too much sun, seafood and
> vino.  I'll try to put some serious effort into ReallyPreventStandby
> when I'm back home in October.

Enjoy the sailing.  I've just moved from Europe to Australia and can
greatly recommend sailing around the Whitsundays on the Gt Barrier
Reef. Still the Adriatic is lovely too.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-08-03 Thread gharris999

shawje;566478 Wrote: 
> Update - It's preventing sleep beautifully.  Unfortunately it's not
> letting the mac go back to sleep when it becomes inactive.
> 
> I have two scripts - jigstart.sh  which is called when not idle and
> which starts jiggler.  Jigstop.sh stops jiggler and is used as the
> hibernate command - so srvrpwrcontrol is told to hibernate when idle.
> 
> Jiggler starts beautifully when expected.  It stops beauttifully when
> expected.  Unfortunately jigstart is then called again for no obvious
> reason and seemingly called every minute thereafter.  Presumably
> srvrpwrcntrl thinks a player is active for some reason, despite having
> previously decided that it was inactive.   I've posted the server logs
> below.  Thanks for any suggestions.
> 
> [10-08-04 15:58:13.0006] Plugins::SrvrPowerCtrl::Util::SystemExecCmd
> (310) Now trying to execute /usr/local/sbin/jigstop.sh
> [10-08-04 15:59:03.0031] Plugins::SrvrPowerCtrl::Util::SystemExecCmd
> (310) Now trying to execute /usr/local/sbin/jigstart.sh
> [10-08-04 16:00:03.0028] Plugins::SrvrPowerCtrl::Util::SystemExecCmd
> (310) Now trying to execute /usr/local/sbin/jigstart.sh
> [10-08-04 16:01:03.0029] Plugins::SrvrPowerCtrl::Util::SystemExecCmd
> (310) Now trying to execute /usr/local/sbin/jigstart.sh
> [10-08-04 16:02:03.0049] Plugins::SrvrPowerCtrl::Util::SystemExecCmd
> (310) Now trying to execute /usr/local/sbin/jigstart.sh
> [10-08-04 16:03:13.0010] Plugins::SrvrPowerCtrl::Util::SystemExecCmd
> (310) Now trying to execute /usr/local/sbin/jigstop.sh
> [10-08-04 16:04:03.0050] Plugins::SrvrPowerCtrl::Util::SystemExecCmd
> (310) Now trying to execute /usr/local/sbin/jigstart.sh
> [10-08-04 16:05:03.0053] Plugins::SrvrPowerCtrl::Util::SystemExecCmd
> (310) Now trying to execute /usr/local/sbin/jigstart.sh
> [10-08-04 16:06:03.0051] Plugins::SrvrPowerCtrl::Util::SystemExecCmd
> (310) Now trying to execute /usr/local/sbin/jigstart.sh
> [10-08-04 16:07:03.0052] Plugins::SrvrPowerCtrl::Util::SystemExecCmd
> (310) Now trying to execute /usr/local/sbin/jigstart.sh
> [10-08-04 16:08:13.0010] Plugins::SrvrPowerCtrl::Util::SystemExecCmd
> (310) Now trying to execute /usr/local/sbin/jigstop.sh
> [10-08-04 16:09:03.0052] Plugins::SrvrPowerCtrl::Util::SystemExecCmd
> (310) Now trying to execute /usr/local/sbin/jigstart.sh
> [10-08-04 16:10:03.0054] Plugins::SrvrPowerCtrl::Util::SystemExecCmd
> (310) Now trying to execute /usr/local/sbin/jigstart.sh
> [10-08-04 16:11:03.0052] Plugins::SrvrPowerCtrl::Util::SystemExecCmd
> (310) Now trying to execute /usr/local/sbin/jigstart.sh
> [10-08-04 16:12:03.0052] Plugins::SrvrPowerCtrl::Util::SystemExecCmd
> (310) Now trying to execute /usr/local/sbin/jigstart.sh
> [10-08-04 16:13:13.0009] Plugins::SrvrPowerCtrl::Util::SystemExecCmd
> (310) Now trying to execute /usr/local/sbin/jigstop.sh
> [10-08-04 16:14:03.0036] Plugins::SrvrPowerCtrl::Util::SystemExecCmd
> (310) Now trying to execute /usr/local/sbin/jigstart.sh
As I've posted above, I'm sitting on a sailboat in the Adriatic, seven
time zones away from my squeezeboxes and servers.  I'd like to be able
to help here, but my brain is too addled from too much sun, seafood and
vino.  I'll try to put some serious effort into ReallyPreventStandby
when I'm back home in October.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-08-03 Thread shawje

Update - It's preventing sleep beautifully.  Unfortunately it's not
letting the mac go back to sleep when it becomes inactive.

I have two scripts - jigstart.sh  which is called when not idle and
which starts jiggler.  Jigstop.sh stops jiggler and is used as the
hibernate command - so srvrpwrcontrol is told to hibernate when idle.

Jiggler starts beautifully when expected.  It stops beauttifully when
expected.  Unfortunately jigstart is then called again for no obvious
reason and seemingly called every minute thereafter.  Presumably
srvrpwrcntrl thinks a player is active for some reason, despite having
previously decided that it was inactive.   I've posted the server logs
below.  Thanks for any suggestions.

[10-08-04 15:58:13.0006] Plugins::SrvrPowerCtrl::Util::SystemExecCmd
(310) Now trying to execute /usr/local/sbin/jigstop.sh
[10-08-04 15:59:03.0031] Plugins::SrvrPowerCtrl::Util::SystemExecCmd
(310) Now trying to execute /usr/local/sbin/jigstart.sh
[10-08-04 16:00:03.0028] Plugins::SrvrPowerCtrl::Util::SystemExecCmd
(310) Now trying to execute /usr/local/sbin/jigstart.sh
[10-08-04 16:01:03.0029] Plugins::SrvrPowerCtrl::Util::SystemExecCmd
(310) Now trying to execute /usr/local/sbin/jigstart.sh
[10-08-04 16:02:03.0049] Plugins::SrvrPowerCtrl::Util::SystemExecCmd
(310) Now trying to execute /usr/local/sbin/jigstart.sh
[10-08-04 16:03:13.0010] Plugins::SrvrPowerCtrl::Util::SystemExecCmd
(310) Now trying to execute /usr/local/sbin/jigstop.sh
[10-08-04 16:04:03.0050] Plugins::SrvrPowerCtrl::Util::SystemExecCmd
(310) Now trying to execute /usr/local/sbin/jigstart.sh
[10-08-04 16:05:03.0053] Plugins::SrvrPowerCtrl::Util::SystemExecCmd
(310) Now trying to execute /usr/local/sbin/jigstart.sh
[10-08-04 16:06:03.0051] Plugins::SrvrPowerCtrl::Util::SystemExecCmd
(310) Now trying to execute /usr/local/sbin/jigstart.sh
[10-08-04 16:07:03.0052] Plugins::SrvrPowerCtrl::Util::SystemExecCmd
(310) Now trying to execute /usr/local/sbin/jigstart.sh
[10-08-04 16:08:13.0010] Plugins::SrvrPowerCtrl::Util::SystemExecCmd
(310) Now trying to execute /usr/local/sbin/jigstop.sh
[10-08-04 16:09:03.0052] Plugins::SrvrPowerCtrl::Util::SystemExecCmd
(310) Now trying to execute /usr/local/sbin/jigstart.sh
[10-08-04 16:10:03.0054] Plugins::SrvrPowerCtrl::Util::SystemExecCmd
(310) Now trying to execute /usr/local/sbin/jigstart.sh
[10-08-04 16:11:03.0052] Plugins::SrvrPowerCtrl::Util::SystemExecCmd
(310) Now trying to execute /usr/local/sbin/jigstart.sh
[10-08-04 16:12:03.0052] Plugins::SrvrPowerCtrl::Util::SystemExecCmd
(310) Now trying to execute /usr/local/sbin/jigstart.sh
[10-08-04 16:13:13.0009] Plugins::SrvrPowerCtrl::Util::SystemExecCmd
(310) Now trying to execute /usr/local/sbin/jigstop.sh
[10-08-04 16:14:03.0036] Plugins::SrvrPowerCtrl::Util::SystemExecCmd
(310) Now trying to execute /usr/local/sbin/jigstart.sh


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-08-03 Thread shawje

danco;566245 Wrote: 
> It's a touch confusing, as the on-idle and not-idle interfaces are
> different.
> 
> For a not-idle script, you give the full path to the script in the
> obvious place.
> 
> For an on-idle script, you go to the Custom Commands at the bottom,
> give a name to the command and the full path to the script you want.
> 
> Then (I can't recall if you have to stop and restart Squeezebox Server,
> in addition to clicking Apply, but it can't harm) in the on-idle
> selection (and anywhere that there is a menu of scripts) your named
> scripts will appear in the menu to be chosen.

Thanks Danco.  

I think I have this working - but only by replacing the Hibernate
instruction (which I probably won't use much) with a call to the stop
jiggler script.  Then I set action on idle to be hibernate.  What I
couldn't find is where and how to create a custom command or script. 
Any suggestions where I need to look.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-08-03 Thread danco

It's a touch confusing, as the on-idle and not-idle interfaces are
different.

For a not-idle script, you give the full path to the script in the
obvious place.

For an on-idle script, you go to the Custom Commands at the bottom,
give a name to the command and the full path to the script you want.

Then (I can't recall if you have to stop and restart Squeezebox Server,
in addition to clicking Apply, but it can't harm) in the on-idle
selection (and anywhere that there is a menu of scripts) your named
scripts will appear in the menu to be chosen.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-08-03 Thread danco

That's not an issue. You can write a similar script to turn Jiggler off,
and set the on-idle behaviour to run that script. Then all that happens
on idle is that control is passed back to Energy Saver. Or your script
could just do nothing, and leave Jiggler running if you wanted.

I also use the PowerSave plugin that turns my Squeezebox off when it's
not been used for a certain length of time.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-08-02 Thread shawje

Danco / Gordon

I'm looking to prevent my Mac Mini sleeping when using squeezebox.  I
think I know how to do it - using Danco's method of running Jiggler
when Srvpowerctrl sees NotIdle (although I haven't yet tried getting
the scripts working in the correct directories and I'm new to Macs). 
My issue is that I don't want SrvrPowerCtrl to force the Mac to sleep
after the idle monitor spots there has been no activity for a while.  I
prefer to use the Mac's own energy saver settings to turn off the Mac if
there is no activity.  The reason is that I use EyeTV for recording TV
on the Mac.  The minute I enable SrvPowerCtrl's idle monitor, there is
a chance that it will force the Mac to sleep in the middle of a TV
recording if I happen to be recording something x minutes after
srvpowerctrl detects an idle state (where x is the timer setting on the
idlemonitor).

I think what I need is a way to run a script on not-idle, but without
having a forced suspend after SB has been idle for a preset time.

Thanks for any suggestions.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-07-24 Thread gharris999

Yes, the beta version of SrvrPowerCtrl will do what you want it to. 
Make sure it's the latest beta version (from last January, I think)
that you have installed.  

But getting this to work is going to require some extra effort on your
part.  SrvrPowerCtrl is really all about putting the server to sleep,
not keeping it awake.  

So, exactly as Danco suggests above, do this:  Search this thread for
'caffeine' and read up on that Mac utility. Download caffeine and
install it (google search for 'caffeine OSX').  Then you'll need to
write a script to invoke caffeine.  There should be an example script
of Danco's in the thread here somewhere.  Then, you may need to modify
your /etc/sudoers file so that caffeine can be run by the user account
that Squeezebox Server is running under.  Finally, configure
SrvrPowerCtrl so that the 'not-idle' action calls your caffeine
invocation script.

I think that's it, in a nutshell.

I've been intending, for the past 9 months or so, to redo my
'ReallyPreventStandby' plugin so that it supports OSX and linux for
exactly this sort of stuff and then rip out the 'not-idle' support in
SrvrPowerCtrl.  That probably won't happen until December, though.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-07-24 Thread danco

Look through the thread to find the answer.

There are a couple of free programs, Caffeine and Jiggler, that stop a
Mac from sleeping when activated.

You can write a shell script to run either of these, and set up
SvrPowerControl to run the script when the SB is not idle.

It's your choice which of the two you prefer to use. For more details
search either on the words Caffeine or Jiggler or for posts by me.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-07-23 Thread jonathan.ibell

Hey there

Not sure whether I should be posting this in the beginners' forum,
but...

I have a Duet and am running a Mac Mini as the server; I'm having
problems with the computer going into standby while listening to
music.

I don't want to have to put the "sleep" setting on the Mac so far up as
I want to have the Mini in standby when not in use (namely, I want to
have a sensible standby setting of around 10 minutes, and have it that
the Mac is made aware that it is still in use by the Squeezebox so it
doesn't go to sleep when the Squeezebox is being used).

>From what I have read on this forum and elsewhere, the SvrPowerControl
plugin may provide an answer to that. I've successfully downloaded and
installed the plugin, but despite going through the settings of the
plugin I cannot identify any settings which will help me with the
problem outlined above.

Could someone please put me in the right direction to such info on the
web, or give me some clues as to what settings can achieve this desired
result?

Apologies if this is a v. basic question for this thread, however this
is my first time mucking about with such a plugin. I have tried to
search for ideas on this, but haven't had any luck..

Many thanks for any help that can be offered!

Cheers
Jonathan
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-07-21 Thread mvordeme

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-07-21 Thread gharris999

robroe;563275 Wrote: 
> Hi, 
> 
> Hope you enjoyed your sailing! I don't suppose you've managed to take a
> look at the possible LazySearch conflict? 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Rob
My summer of sailing isn't even remotely over yet. I don't head back
until October 7th. Currently, I'm off the island of Lastovo in Croatia.
No seqeezeboxen and no servers on board, so there's not a lot I can do
from this end.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-07-21 Thread robroe

Hi, 

Hope you enjoyed your sailing! I don't suppose you've managed to take a
look at the possible LazySearch conflict? 

Thanks

Rob

gharris999;537178 Wrote: 
> Got it.  But the log only seems to reflect the start of SBS and a
> Lazifacation called by the LazySearch plugin.  It doesn't seem to
> contain any of the log messages I would expect to see when the system
> is shut down "manually".
> 
> Did you "manually" shut the machine down, boot it back up, and then gab
> the log output?
> 
> I suppose that it is possible, if the "manual shutdown" happens while
> the "Lazifacation" process is still happening, that the block set by
> Lazy Search could be preventing SrvrPowerCtrl from performing the
> player push to MySB.com.  I'll have to look at the code.  But this is
> just speculation.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-07-13 Thread Tony T

gharris999;561204 Wrote: 
> Exactly. You could use SrvrPowerCtrl's current "not idle" support to
> accomplish the same thing, but I intend to remove this feature in the
> next version. I'll move that functionality to the ReallyPreventStandby
> plugin when I rework it to support all operating systems.

Thanks.  I looked at that, but it seemed overkill to use your plug-in
just for 1 function.  I'm using a python script and an OS X Core
Graphics call to do a quick move of the mouse (so I don't need to load
Jiggler)

ReallyPreventStandby is something that I would be interested in.  On
the Mac, how do you plan to implement this?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-07-13 Thread Stone Free

gharris999;553230 Wrote: 
> Unfortunately, I have no experience with QNAP devices.
> 
> Anyway, there are a couple of different ways you can try to go about
> this.  If the QNAP allows you root access via ssh to it's operating
> system, then you can use PuTTY & WinSCP to do some spelunking. You'll
> also have to pose some questions on forums devoted to your device.  
> 
> But basically, your task will be to:
> 
> 1). Determine what user account the squeezeboxserver service runs under
> on the QNAP.  On a regular linux distribution, SBS runs under the
> account 'squeezeboxserver'.  If you can get ssh+root access to the
> QNAP, you can try the command:
> For some reason the arguments to ps don't seem to make any difference it
always seems to show every process.  I tried looking at the Man page for
ps, but all of the different command types whether prefixed by two
dashes, one dash, or no dashes didn't seem to do anything.

The SSOTS Qnap package does seem to list both a Mysql and Squeezeserver
PID maybe I should just try and match these against the users shown by
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-07-12 Thread gharris999

Tony T;560297 Wrote: 
> Never mind, found the answer in
> http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpo...postcount=1352
> 
> I can use the CLI to test if any of my players are in mode: 'play', and
> if so, I'll run Jiggler to keep my server from sleeping. I can do this
> with a bash script run every 25 minutes with launchd

Exactly. You could use SrvrPowerCtrl's current "not idle" support to
accomplish the same thing, but I intend to remove this feature in the
next version. I'll move that functionality to the ReallyPreventStandby
plugin when I rework it to support all operating systems.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-07-07 Thread Tony T

Tony T;560186 Wrote: 
> This might have been answered in one of the 140 pages in this thread :)
> , but can someone tell me how I can determine if a stream is playing?
> (not if the server is running).

Never mind, found the answer in
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpo...postcount=1352

I can use the CLI to test if any of my players are in mode: 'play', and
if so, I'll run Jiggler to keep my server from sleeping. I can do this
with a bash script run every 25 minutes with launchd


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-07-07 Thread Tony T

This might have been answered in one of the 140 pages in this thread :)
, but can someone tell me how I can determine if a stream is playing?
(not if the server is running).


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-06-29 Thread robroe

Pah! Where are your priorities?! Do you work for BP by any chance? ;) 

It would be great if it got fixed one day. Thanks.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-06-29 Thread gharris999

Sorry.  I'm scrambling to get out of town and onto a sailboat in the
Adriatic.  I won't have time to look at this any time soon.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-06-29 Thread robroe

gharris999;537197 Wrote: 
> I can't look at this for the next couple of days.  But I'll try to see
> what I can figure out on Tuesday.

Hi,

I have this same issue too. Looks as though I have the lazification
bits as well so maybe it is a conflict there? 

Any work on this would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-06-06 Thread gharris999

Stone Free;553227 Wrote: 
> How do I go about getting this to work on a QNAP 219P.  I have installed
> SUDO via Itsy package manager, but I have no idea what I'm meant to put
> in the SUDOERS file. I've also no idea how to go about installing
> PM-Utils on the QNAP because it doesn't seem to be installable via
> Itsy.
Unfortunately, I have no experience with QNAP devices.  The only NAS
device that I've ever played around with is a very old ReadyNAS
600...and I gave up on trying to run SqueezeCenter on that years ago. 
I assume you've used the 'Search this thread' tool to find all the
previous QNAP related posts?

Various folks have drifted through this thread asking your same
question...and then they've disappeared.  I don't know if it's because
they gave up...or because they got it working.  If the latter, I really
wish they had posted their recipe for others' benefit.

Anyway, there are a couple of different ways you can try to go about
this.  If the QNAP allows you root access via ssh to it's operating
system, then you can use PuTTY & WinSCP to do some spelunking. You'll
also have to pose some questions on forums devoted to your device.  

But basically, your task will be to:

1). Determine what user account the squeezeboxserver service runs under
on the QNAP.  On a regular linux distribution, SBS runs under the
account 'squeezeboxserver'.  If you can get ssh+root access to the
QNAP, you can try the command:

# ps -U squeezeboxserver

If that command lists processes 'owned' by the squeezeboxserver user,
then you're in business and 'squeezeboxserver' is the 'owner' and will
be the account name you'll give permissions to in sudoers.  But if no
processes are listed, then you might try a sort of reverse lookup:

# ps axu

Again, look for the SBS related processes and note the numeric ID of
the SBS process owners.  If you get an ID (e.g. 110, rather than a
name), then have a look in /etc/passwd and see if you can associate
that ID with an account name.

In any event, once you get the account name, you'll have the first
piece of the puzzle as to what will go in sudoers.  I'm not familiar
with the QNAP's sudoers format, but there may be examples commented out
in the file.

2). Your second task is to determine which commands actually effect
shutdown/restart/suspend/hibernation on the QNAP.  And there, you're
better off posing questions on a QNAP forum.

Good luck, and please do post your results back here.  Again, you're
not the first person to trod down this path.

PS: make a backup of your original, unchanged sudoers file first!  And
when attempting to modify sudoers, try using the 

# visudo

..command..if it's present on the QNAP.  visudo is the 'safe' way to
modify sudoers.  Any changes you make to sudoers by visudo get checked
for correct syntax before the changes are applied.  This is a good
failsafe.  If you're not familiar with 'vi', do a google search to get
a brief vi tutorial.  I find vi fairly counter-intuitive to use, so I'd
advise having a command reference handy.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-06-06 Thread Stone Free

How do I go about getting this to work on a QNAP 219P.  I have installed
SUDO via Itsy package manager, but I have no idea what I'm meant to put
in the SUDOERS file. I've also no idea how to go about installing
PM-Utils on the QNAP because it doesn't seem to be installable via
Itsy.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-04-22 Thread mvordeme

Currently there is no interaction at all between SPC and LightsOut.
Apart from the things LightsOut is monitoring anyway like daily backups
and hard disk activity, I have set it to monitor network activity of
more than 8 KB/s. I have configured a timeout value of 20 minutes, so
20 minutes after I stop streaming any music, the server will hibernate.
To make sure there is network load at all when I play music, I have
switched all players to proxied streaming mode.

Since I never suspend the server, I removed the suspend command from
the SPC settings. Selecting "suspend to mysqueezebox.com" now only
pushes all players to mysqueezebox.com. I have set up idle player
monitoring with a timeout of 15 minutes and no not-idle command, so
before the server hibernates, the players are pushed to
mysqueezenetwork.com. Additionally I have configured an end-of-day
action that pushes all players to mysqueezenetwork.com before my
wireless network shuts itself down.

So far it is working really well. Alternatively, I could create and
remove a lock file with SPC and have LightsOut monitor that, but
because SPC starts the grace period again immediately after it expires,
I was concerned that LightsOut would not find the time to shut down the
server. And I like the idea of keeping the server awake while data is
being transferred, anyway. This way, I don't have to keep the server
awake just because the odd notebook is powered up. It will simply not
hibernate as long as data is being transferred.

The only downside is that network monitoring (and file monitoring) are
features of the licensed version, so I will have to pay 15 bucks when
the trial period is over, but I was planning to donate, anyway.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-04-19 Thread gharris999

mvordeme;537248 Wrote: 
> Took me some time because the old version was working so well and I
> didn't want to break it.
> 
> I am now using ServerPowerControl solely for switching the players over
> to mysqueezebox.com. LightsOut 1.0 comes with network load monitoring. I
> set the threshold to 8 KB/s (= 64 KBit/s) and set all my players to
> proxied streaming, so SPC does not need to issue any not-idle commands
> at all. It works like a charm with the added benefit of other network
> operations being monitored as well.
> 
> If you run your SqueezeboxServer from a WHS which you are using for
> other purposes as well, I recommend having a look at LightsOut.

Please tell us more about the interaction between LightsOut,
SrvrPowerCtrl and what you're doing to get SrvrPowerCtrl to push
players to MySB.com.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-04-18 Thread mvordeme

mvordeme;504852 Wrote: 
> I am not sure how many people are interested in this It looks like (the
> trial and licensed versions of) 'Lights Out 1.0'
> (http://addins.home-server-blog.de/verwaltung/lightsout/#en) for
> Windows Home Server can now monitor various sources to keep the server
> from hibernating. The easiest way to integrate Lights Out is to create
> a file when you want the server to stay awake and to remove that file
> when the server may hibernate or shut down. This can be done
> conveniently by configuring the required commands directly in the
> Server Power Control settings.
> 
> I am going to install the new Lights Out and run a few tests, and then
> I'll post the commands.Took me some time because the old version was working 
> so well and I
didn't want to break it.

I am now using ServerPowerControl solely for switching the players over
to mysqueezebox.com. LightsOut 1.0 comes with network load monitoring. I
set the threshold to 8 KB/s (= 64 KBit/s) and set all my players to
proxied streaming, so SPC does not need to issue any not-idle commands
at all. It works like a charm with the added benefit of other network
operations being monitored as well.

If you run your SqueezeboxServer from a WHS which you are using for
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-04-18 Thread Biermichel

It's okay. Thank you for engagement.

At the moment I'm using a work around by shutting the system down by
the link on web gui placed on my desktop. It works fine.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-04-18 Thread gharris999

Biermichel;537186 Wrote: 
> Send you a few logs more with two or tree manual shutdowns.
> 
> Yes, I did a manual shutdown, but I could't find anything in the logs.
> You can see that above the "main" log:
> [10-04-18 21:00:17.1566] main::init (323) Starting Squeezebox Server
> (v7.5.0, r30464, Thu Apr  1 05:51:56 PDT 2010) 
> 
> I shut down the system manually before, but the last record ist at
> [10-04-18 20:41:27.6077]
> 
> It's Berlin-time here. ;-)
I can't look at this for the next couple of days.  But I'll try to see
what I can figure out on Tuesday.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-04-18 Thread gharris999

Biermichel;537186 Wrote: 
> Send you a few logs more with two or tree manual shutdowns.
> 
> Yes, I did a manual shutdown, but I could't find anything in the logs.
> You can see that above the "main" log:
> [10-04-18 21:00:17.1566] main::init (323) Starting Squeezebox Server
> (v7.5.0, r30464, Thu Apr  1 05:51:56 PDT 2010) 
> 
> I shut down the system manually before, but the last record ist at
> [10-04-18 20:41:27.6077]
> 
> It's Berlin-time here. ;-)
I can't look at this for the next couple of days.  But I'll try to see
what I can figure out on Tuesday.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-04-18 Thread Biermichel

Send you a few logs more with two or tree manual shutdowns.

Yes, I did a manual shutdown, but I could't find anything in the logs.
You can see that above the "main" log:
[10-04-18 21:00:17.1566] main::init (323) Starting Squeezebox Server
(v7.5.0, r30464, Thu Apr  1 05:51:56 PDT 2010) 

I shut down the system manually before, but the last record ist at
[10-04-18 20:41:27.6077]


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-04-18 Thread gharris999

Biermichel;537170 Wrote: 
> Ah, thanks a lot.
> 
> You've got e-mail with my logs (too long for posting or pm'ing).
Got it.  But the log only seems to reflect the start of SBS and a
Lazifacation called by the LazySearch plugin.  It doesn't seem to
contain any of the log messages I would expect to see when the system
is shut down "manually".

Did you "manually" shut the machine down, boot it back up, and then gab
the log output?

I suppose that it is possible, if the "manual shutdown" happens while
the "Lazifacation" process is still happening, that the block set by
Lazy Search could be preventing SrvrPowerCtrl from performing the
player push to MySB.com.  I'll have to look at the code.  But this is
just speculation.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-04-18 Thread Biermichel

Ah, thanks a lot.

You've got e-mail with my logs (too long for posting or pm'ing).


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-04-18 Thread gharris999

Biermichel;537081 Wrote: 
> Did activate debugging on settings advanced logging with saving the
> setting, but after rebooting it's set back to information.
> 
> Here comes the log, don't think it helps you:
> [10-04-18 17:33:29.0629] main::init (323) Starting Squeezebox Server
> (v7.5.0, r30464, Thu Apr  1 05:51:56 PDT 2010) perl 5.01
> [10-04-18 17:35:31.1405]
> Plugins::SrvrPowerCtrl::Watchdog::OnWakeupWatchdog (518) Wakeup Call!!
> [10-04-18 17:42:12.0160] main::init (323) Starting Squeezebox Server
> (v7.5.0, r30464, Thu Apr  1 05:51:56 PDT 2010) perl 5.01
> [10-04-18 17:44:08.3625]
> Plugins::SrvrPowerCtrl::Watchdog::OnWakeupWatchdog (518) Wakeup Call!!
> 
> Maybe you can help me with debugging.
On the SBS Settings->Advanced->Logging page, you first have to check
the "Save logging settings for use at next application restart" option
near the top of the page, then set the "(plugin.SrvrPowerCtrl) - Server
Power Control" logging level to "Debug" and then finally click on the
"Apply" button at the bottom of the page.  Then reboot your server. 
SrvrPowerCtrl should then start spewing info...some of which,
hopefully, will be relevant.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-04-18 Thread Biermichel

Did activate debugging on settings advanced logging with saving the
setting, but after rebooting it's set back to information.

Here comes the log, don't think it helps you:
[10-04-18 17:33:29.0629] main::init (323) Starting Squeezebox Server
(v7.5.0, r30464, Thu Apr  1 05:51:56 PDT 2010) perl 5.01
[10-04-18 17:35:31.1405]
Plugins::SrvrPowerCtrl::Watchdog::OnWakeupWatchdog (518) Wakeup Call!!
[10-04-18 17:42:12.0160] main::init (323) Starting Squeezebox Server
(v7.5.0, r30464, Thu Apr  1 05:51:56 PDT 2010) perl 5.01
[10-04-18 17:44:08.3625]
Plugins::SrvrPowerCtrl::Watchdog::OnWakeupWatchdog (518) Wakeup Call!!

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-04-17 Thread gharris999

Biermichel;535968 Wrote: 
> Hi,
> 
> got a problem by "external shutdown". My SBs shall go to mySB.com, but
> they only do if I stop the SqueezeboxServer manually. By normal system
> shutdown that doesn't work. OS: Windwos XP, actual SB-Server 7.5.0
> 
> I like your plugin, great work!
Well, this is *supposed* to work.  Would you be willing to set
SrvrPowerCtrl's logging to "debug", try a normal system shutdown, and
post the log entries?  Let me know if you need pointers as to how to
set the log to debug.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-04-16 Thread Biermichel

Hi,

got a problem by "external shutdown". My SBs shall go to mySB.com, but
they only do if I stop the SqueezeboxServer manually. By normal system
shutdown that doesn't work. OS: Windwos XP, actual SB-Server 7.5.0

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-04-11 Thread gharris999

MrRalph;533221 Wrote: 
> My mistake, the BETA works like a charm :-)
With the change from SC 7.3.x to SBS 7.4 and above, the linux account
name that the "squeeze" service runs under changed from "squeezecenter"
to "squeezeboxserver".  The setup script for the BETA version of
SrvrPowerCtrl attempts to figure out which version you're using and
modify the /etc/sudoers file accordingly.

Clearly, it's way past time for me to yank the current "released"
version and promote the current beta (with a few cosmetic fix-ups) to a
release.  Just can't seem to find the time (taxes...taxes...taxes).


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-04-11 Thread MrRalph

Tried to suspend the server on 7.5 Ubuntu. Followed all the
instructions, however, trying to suspend the server from a prompt,
results in promping me for the squeezeboxserver password. Any tips to
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-04-02 Thread Chris82

gharris999;528991 Wrote: 
> I really should write some kind of windows utility that monitors the
> system, listening for PM initiated sleep, and sends SrvrPowerCtrl a cli
> request to set alarms.  Not sure when I'll get the time to do this,
> though.

Sure, I'm very thankful for the solution you're currently providing. Of
course, such a monitoring plugin would make it perfect :).

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-03-30 Thread epoch1970

These guys have studied exactly what I have in mind: "An Empirical Study
of the Potential for Context-Aware Power Management" [
https://www.scss.tcd.ie:453/publications/tech-reports/reports.07/TCD-CS-2007-52.pdf
] - There's a few more in google scholar.
They are using a bayesian classifier to predict on the next most
desirable status for a machine, the idea being saving power when nobody
pays attention, and waking up before anyone cares. Same perceived
comfort, less watts. 
Creative use of a microphone as a presence sensor (Touch, hint.)
Unfortunately for them, they missed focusing on a quality music server,
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-03-29 Thread gharris999

Chris82;528943 Wrote: 
> Hi again,
> 
> I think I found the fundamental misunderstanding I had.
> 
> Is it true that the SCpowertool is only triggered if the server is
> suspended / hibernated by the plugin itself, let's say after a sleep
> timer is over or idle time of attached players has been reached?
> 
> It seems like it is not triggered if the system is set to standby /
> hibernation by a windows energy plan, is that right?
> 
> Thanks for your help,
> 
> Chris
That is correct.  It is possible for a windows utility to "know" when
the system is being put to sleep via the operating system power
manager.  The OS sends out a message to all applications that have what
is known as a windows message queue.  Unfortunately, this isn't
something that a perl based plugin like SrvrPowerCtrl can do.  At some
point, I really should write some kind of windows utility that monitors
the system, listening for PM initiated sleep, and sends SrvrPowerCtrl a
cli request to set alarms.  Not sure when I'll get the time to do this,
though.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-03-29 Thread mvordeme

That is correct. The tool is invoked from the plug-in. You must
configure the plug-in such that it prevents Windows from hibernating
the server as long as SBS is playing any music and to set all necessary
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-03-29 Thread Chris82

Chris82;528706 Wrote: 
> I don't quite understand that problem since in my own tests, the machine
> returns both from S3 and S4 state to the preset time.
> 

Hi again,

I think I found the fundamental misunderstanding I had.

Is it true that the SCpowertool is only triggered if the server is
suspended / hibernated by the plugin itself, let's say after a sleep
timer is over or idle time of attached players has been reached?

It seems like it is not triggered if the system is set to standby /
hibernation by a windows energy plan, is that right?

Thanks for your help,

Chris


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-03-29 Thread jmang

Tried installing beta version of SvrPowerControl using Extension
Downloader as suggested in the quoted post.  My target system is
Squeezebox Server 7.4.2 running on OSX 10.6.2 (Snow Leopard) on a "Late
2009" Mac Mini with Intel dual-core CPU @ 2GHz and 4 MB RAM.

gharris999;308728 Wrote: 
> Note for users of Squeezebox Server 7.4 and later: There is a beta of
> SrvrPowerCtrl that 'plays nicer' with this version. It can be installed
> via the Extension Downloader.

The installation produced the SvrPowerControl plug-in's page in the SBS
browser interface which included all the plug-in commands, but with no
hint of a link to complete the installation.  The commands also
appeared on my Boom under Extras -> Server Power Control as expected,
but of course they didn't work because the installation of the scripts
had not been completed.  In short it appeared the user interface
portion of the plug-in was successfully installed but not the back-end
where all the actions are actually performed.

I then downloaded the zip files for both the released and the beta
versions and took a look at the OSX readme.txt file and a couple of the
scripts.  The files in both versions refer to the 'Squeezecenter'
directory rather than the 'Squeezebox' directory which is configured in
SBS 7.4.2 (on my system, at least).  The subdirs don't seem to match
either, the plug-in refers to .../Squeezecenter/Plugins/... vs SBS
7.4.2 which has .../Squeezebox/DownloadedPlugins/... and
.../Squeezebox/InstalledPlugins/...  I combed this thread looking for
further info and found a reference to replacing all occurences of
'Squeezecenter' with 'Squeezebox' but that post was referring to SBS
7.4.1 I believe, and there was no mention of the subdirectory
differences.

Is this a bug, known or otherwise?  If yes, is there a workaround?  Or,
have I missed something?

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-03-29 Thread Chris82

Hi,

after some playing around with my new mediacenter I gave another try to
the wake-up feature in SvrPowerControl under Win 7 X64 but what can
I say, same issue as before:

In an artficial situation where I try to use the powertool from the
command line with the wake-up feature, everything works perfectly. Also
using it in the plugin seems to be successful as I can read in the Log
file. The start-up time for the computer is set to 5min in advance to
my alarms in the SB Radio.

However... in the morning, the system does not power on. The log file
stays untouched, just as if windows goes to a power state the the
computer cannot be woken up from.

I don't quite understand that problem since in my own tests, the
machine returns both from S3 and S4 state to the preset time.

Is there anyone else experiencing this?

Thanks for your help!

Christoph


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-03-27 Thread danco

gharris999;528437 Wrote: 
> 
> In terms of keeping your server awake while SBS is playing music: yes,
> the answer is in this thread.  Search this thread for the keyword
> 'caffeine' to see what at least one user has come up with.

Yes, Caffeine or Jiggler. Much the same functionality, differ slightly
in details.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-03-27 Thread gharris999

jmang;528432 Wrote: 
> Hi,
> 
> I've gone through this and other threads looking for a solution to the
> problem of my Mac Mini going to sleep during Squeezebox Server's
> playing music.  I suspect the wisdom needed to solve this is
> here---somewhere---but it seems scattered through numerous messages I
> haven't the time or patience to put together.
> 
> Would someone kindly summarize a solution for me and perhaps others
> with similar issues?
> 
> Also, Server Power Control appears to be quite a useful piece of work
> but I haven't been able to figure out what all its features are and
> what it is supposed to do.  For example, are the 'Server' commands
> intended to control the Squeezebox Server software or the computer
> running it?  Is there a user's guide available?  Is Server Power
> Control part of the solution for the above issue?
> 
> Or am I just chasing the proverbial wild goose?
> 
> Thanks.
Actually the 'server' aspects cover a little of both bases.  For
instance, you can use SrvrPowerCtrl to restart the Squeezebox Server
service.  This was more useful back in the 7.x.x SqueezeCenter days,
when the service didn't support this sort of thing on it's own.  

But primarily, SrvrPowerCtrl is about controlling the server hardware:
putting the server to sleep when Squeezebox Server (SBS) is idle;
allowing you to shutdown/reboot/sleep the server from the player UI or
from the web UI, etc.

Another 'service' aspect of SrvrPowerCtrl is it's ability to push &
pull players from MySqueezebox.com automatically when the server
hardware sleeps or resumes.  This ability is a little compromised now,
however.  It was pretty bullet-proof with SqueezeNetwork. 
MySqueezebox.com doesn't play quite so nicely with attempts at
automation.

In terms of keeping your server awake while SBS is playing music: yes,
the answer is in this thread.  Search this thread for the keyword
'caffeine' to see what at least one user has come up with.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-03-27 Thread jmang

Hi,

I've gone through this and other threads looking for a solution to the
problem of my Mac Mini going to sleep during Squeezebox Server's
playing music.  I suspect the wisdom needed to solve this is
here---somewhere---but it seems scattered through numerous messages I
haven't the time or patience to put together.

Would someone kindly summarize a solution for me and perhaps others
with similar issues?

Also, Server Power Control appears to be quite a useful piece of work
but I haven't been able to figure out what all its features are and
what it is supposed to do.  For example, are the 'Server' commands
intended to control the Squeezebox Server software or the computer
running it?  Is there a user's guide available?  Is Server Power
Control part of the solution for the above issue?

Or am I just chasing the proverbial wild goose?

Thanks.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-03-16 Thread epoch1970

Look for a different version of the linux kernel when fishing for an
alternative live-cd to test with. For example, choose a previous Ubuntu
release (7.0, 8.0), or the next beta. Perhaps you can be lucky. 

With your current OS: http://en.opensuse.org/S2ram was a valuable
resource for me when I had trouble with linux suspend. There you can
learn about the suspend process and how to debug manually your setup.
pm-utils is nice when it works, but hides everything under covers.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-03-16 Thread gharris999

colincliff;525527 Wrote: 
> Hi,
> 
> thanks for this, my pm-suspend.log shows no problems, only they system
> waking up after a second or so. It does this even when there is no
> ethernet connection, so it seems to be a problem with the ubuntu
> installation.
> 
> interestingly(!) i can hibernate fine, and also suspend once after a
> reboot or hibernation but any suspend after that results in an instant
> resume.
> 
> there seems to be some other people with similar problems but no fix
> that i could find. Its a shame as hibernate takes too long to be really
> usable. I was hoping to have the unit sleep after 15 mins or so of
> inactivity, but it might be better just to have it hibernate at night.
> 
> Just to confirm there is no problem with this plugin just my system :-(
About all I can suggest at this point is to try booting from a live-cd
of another distro and see if you have better luck with that.  These
sorts of problems can be maddening.  I struggled for months trying to
get WOL out of S3 to work consistently with some VIA boards before
finally throwing in the towel and moving to intel-based mobos.  The
problem in that case was due to the nic drivers and I was just never
able to solve it.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-03-16 Thread colincliff

gharris999;525427 Wrote: 
> pm-utils (along with almost everything else) logs all of its (very
> verbose) messages to /var/log/messages.
> 
> Look at the message times and specifically, look for a gap in time. 
> That will indicate when the system was asleep.
> 
> Again, I'm much more familiar with Fedora than I am with Ubuntu.  How
> do you set your network interface to respond only to magic packets? 
> With Fedora 12, I do this by adding the line:
> 
> ETHTOOL_OPTS="wol g"
> 
> to /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0

Hi,

thanks for this, my pm-suspend.log shows no problems, only they system
waking up after a second or so. It does this even when there is no
ethernet connection, so it seems to be a problem with the ubuntu
installation.

interestingly(!) i can hibernate fine, and also suspend once after a
reboot or hibernation but any suspend after that results in an instant
resume.

there seems to be some other people with similar problems but no fix
that i could find. Its a shame as hibernate takes too long to be really
usable. I was hoping to have the unit sleep after 15 mins or so of
inactivity, but it might be better just to have it hibernate at night.

Just to confirm there is no problem with this plugin just my system :-(


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-03-15 Thread gharris999

colincliff;525198 Wrote: 
> still getting some funny behaviour. The system seems to go to sleep fine
> now, but after a few seconds it is resuming even when squeezeboxes are
> off
> 
> is there any way to find out what event is waking the system in ubuntu?
> either the ip address which sent the magic packet or anyting like that?
pm-utils (along with almost everything else) logs all of its (very
verbose) messages to /var/log/messages.

Look at the message times and specifically, look for a gap in time. 
That will indicate when the system was asleep.

Again, I'm much more familiar with Fedora than I am with Ubuntu.  How
do you set your network interface to respond only to magic packets? 
With Fedora 12, I do this by adding the line:

ETHTOOL_OPTS="wol g"

to /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-03-15 Thread colincliff

still getting some funny behaviour. The system seems to go to sleep fine
now, but after a few seconds it is resuming even when squeezeboxes are
off

is there any way to find out what event is waking the system in ubuntu?
either the ip address which sent the magic packet or anyting like that?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-03-08 Thread epoch1970

colincliff;522872 Wrote: 
> Thanks for the reply. There must be something else stopping its sleeping
> after torrent downloads, i'll do some more experiments

could it be that after the download you are seeding on the torrent, and
downloaders connect to your machine in turn ?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-03-08 Thread mvordeme

colincliff;522872 Wrote: 
> Thanks for the reply. There must be something else stopping its sleeping
> after torrent downloads, i'll do some more experimentsIt used to depend 
> on various settings, so maybe in your case it doesn't
work. I think you may need to configure a not-idle command. You can
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-03-05 Thread gharris999

colincliff;522866 Wrote: 
> Thanks for that. I've got it all running now. Brilliant plugin!
> 
> One further question about the plugins' behaviour. My server runs on a
> box which also has a torrent client on there. My torrent client is set
> to not allow the system to sleep when it is downloading to make sure it
> can finish. This means that if svrpowercontrol sends the sleep signal
> when a torrent is downloading then it wont sleep - which is good.
> 
> Can the plugin be made to send the sleep signal repeatedly (every 10
> mins) until the system is able to sleep after downloads?
Alternately, you could have your torrent script set a SrvrPowerCtrl
"block" via the CLI at the start of the download and clear the block
when the download completes.  That way, SrvrPowerCtrl won't attempt to
sleep the system during the download.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-03-05 Thread colincliff

Thanks for the reply. There must be something else stopping its sleeping
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-03-05 Thread mvordeme

As far as I can see it does. If the server does not shut down
immediately, it starts the grace interval again issuing the not-idle
command. The shut-down command will be submitted periodically. I
actually don't like this to happen, but in your case, it is probably
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-03-05 Thread colincliff

Thanks for that. I've got it all running now. Brilliant plugin!

One further question about the plugins' behaviour. My server runs on a
box which also has a torrent client on there. My torrent client is set
to not allow the system to sleep when it is downloading to make sure it
can finish. This means that if svrpowercontrol sends the sleep signal
when a torrent is downloading then it wont sleep. 

Can the plugin be made to send the sleep signal repeatedly (every 10
mins) until the system is able to sleep?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-03-05 Thread gharris999

colincliff;522729 Wrote: 
> not sure if this is the right place to post, but i've had a quick look
> through the thread and not seen this listed before.
> 
> I have installed this plugin and and trying to go through the
> instructions for finishing the installation Ubuntu.
> 
> when I try the  command: 'sudo chmod a+x
> /var/lib/squeezecenter/cache/InstalledPlugins/Plugins/SrvrPowerCtrl/scripts/Debian/srvrpowerctrl-setup.sh'
> I get an error saying 'No such file or directory'. I can navigate to the
> file with file browser so i know it does exists. Is there an obvious
> solution to this?
> 
> Also when trynig the test command:  'sudo -u squeezecenter sudo
> /sbin/shutdown -k -h now' I get the error 'sudo: unknown user:
> squeezecenter'
> 
> Have i missed a vital step in all of this??
> 
> edit: to my eternal shame i have just realised that i was following
> instructions for the pre 7.4 server. I just replaces 'squeezecentre'
> with 'squeezeboxserver' and all was fine with the world again
Unless you actually are running SqueezeCenter 7.3.4 on your Ubuntu
machine, you should install and use the latest 'beta' of SrvrPowerCtrl. 
Uninstall the version you've got now and then install the beta from
http://srvrpowerctrl.googlecode.com/svn/beta.xml.  That should solve the
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-03-05 Thread colincliff

not sure if this is the right place to post, but i've had a quick look
through the thread and not seen this listed before.

I have installed this plugin and and trying to go through the
instructions for finishing the installation Ubuntu.

when I try the  command: 'sudo chmod a+x
/var/lib/squeezecenter/cache/InstalledPlugins/Plugins/SrvrPowerCtrl/scripts/Debian/srvrpowerctrl-setup.sh'
I get an error saying 'No such file or directory'. I can navigate to the
file with file browser so i know it does exists. Is there an obvious
solution to this?

Also when trynig the test command:  'sudo -u squeezecenter sudo
/sbin/shutdown -k -h now' I get the error 'sudo: unknown user:
squeezecenter'

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2010-03-04 Thread AndreE

I had not exactly the same issue, but similar behavior – this was due to
"Auto recognition" in the network – my player just connected to the
Server immediately when it was up. – had to deactivate it in the server
settings – maybe it is the same?


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