Re: Happy Holidays!
Enjoying them as I write this. Beautiful. Thank you and all the best for the holidays AND for 2011! Regards, Tim -- Tim Lapin t...@sympatico.ca On 2010-12-24, at 12:19 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: Happy Holidays! A few selections from this year's holiday shows: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=AAC08C3FACC6D0E2 Hope you enjoy :-) -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Greater Boston http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com
Re: Feature Request: TNEF support
I'm afraid it has very little to do with PowerMail or indeed any other email client *other than* Outlook. The problem arises when an Outlook user sends an attachment with an email that has been sent in RTF format. Only users of Outlook will be able to read that email. The TNEF format used by Outlook is not quite the standard that it should be and as a result we get the mess you are experiencing presently. The solution is to get them to resend that message in either Plain Text (preferred) or HTML format. In order to avoid the problem re-occurring, they should change their permanent settings to either Plain Text or HTML. I have had to reset many of my clients' Outlook settings to deal with this issue and no doubt will have to do so in the future. -- Tim Lapin t...@sympatico.ca On 2010-12-24, at 5:50 AM, Marco Piovanelli wrote: Hello, Over the last few years, I've been getting more and more mail with attachments wrapped in winmail.dat files. These are files in a horribly proprietary format misnomered Transport Neutral Encapsulation Format, or TNEF for short, created by Microsoft (who else?) in total disregard for the well-entrenched, very well-documented MIME Internet standard that has been used by the rest of the computing universe since the early '90s. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_Neutral_Encapsulation_Format As much as I personally despise TNEF, I'm getting tired of having to use third-party tools to manually decode winmail.dat files, and I'd rather my favorite mail client handled such decoding automatically. So I'd like to respectfully ask CTM Dev to consider adding support for automatic TNEF decoding to a future version of PowerMail. -- marco -- It's not the data universe only, it's human conversation. They want to turn it into a one-way flow that they have entirely monetized. I look at the collective human mind as a kind of ecosystem. They want to clear cut it. They want to go into the rainforest of human thought and mow the thing down.
Re: Deleting Attachments
Interesting idea, Chris. Metadata or folders could solve the issue. Of the two, the metadata idea seems more efficient. One of the big problems with attachments are all those image files that are included in HTML style mail: such as little emoticons, stuff in the headers and footers and even background images. Perhaps a better idea would be to maintain a separate index file for the attachments. Basically a simple database, each record would include sufficient info to recreate the links to a specific email message. That way a simple search for subject or date would be all that is required to determine whether or not a given attachment is orphaned and to which e-mail it once belonged. As far as the spinning beach ball goes, I don't think it would be too bad. I just checked my attachments folder. It has just under 3,000 items and it took less than 5 seconds to display. I have the last of the white iMacs (circa 2007) with the maximum amount of RAM (3 to 4 GB). Assuming an equivalent Mac, it should take less than 30 seconds to display just under 14,000 items. -- Tim Lapin t...@sympatico.ca On 2010-11-22, at 9:23 PM, C. A. Niemiec wrote: I have 13,795 items in my Attachments folders, going back to 2003. I'm convinced that many of them are orphans. I wish there was a way to clean them out. I wonder if there's a way to identify orphans? Anyone know of one? Perhaps CTM has a suggestion? Is there is any technical problem to putting all the attachments for each message in its own folder? Name the folder with some combination of message subject and date/timestamp received. This would prevent the need to rename attachments. If you find what you think is an orphaned attachment set, you have a clue to what the original message is, and if it's junk you can be rid of it all by deleting just one folder. Can metadata be set in the Finder on that folder in such a way that Spotlight will see that it is attached to a particular PowerMail message? Could FoxTrot use this kind of logic (maybe it does)? Here's another idea that perhaps could be done if attachments were stored in folders: an AppleScript that goes through your messages and finds the corresponding folder of its attachments and sets the Finder label to what you choose. Then you know which folders are orphaned by seeing which ones are not labeled. If one actually uses Finder labels for some other purpose here, do not change label if already labeled criterion, etc. Hrm. 13.932 items in my Attachments folder. That's quite a spin of the ol' beachball to see the list in the Finder. I can't imagine an Attachments folder with fewer folders (than that number of files) would be worse. Chris --
Re: bye bye PowerMail
On 31/08/2010 8:55 AM, Jefferis Peterson wrote: On 8/31/10 7:21 AM, MB wrote: Well. I have looked at this problem very carefully. This set of problems have been there server after server (including my own), account after account, PM version after version and fresh database or not since 2004 at least. You have no idea what's behind this kind of problem. If PM is not to blame, then why would another email application not display this problem with the same account and the same data on the same server? At least after some time as with PM, the same set problem would be likely to reappear. I have had this problem intermittently with Entourage, so I suspect it is a server hiccup. Jeff POP server / client conversations do indeed have an issue with dropped or aborted connections. The worst offender that I have seen, either professionally or personally, is MS Outlook. Hundreds of duplicate emails flooding my clients' inbox, thereby making it impossible to work. The second worst has been Eudora. Now Eudora has only recently been revived and on a spotty basis at that. So the data I have date back to versions 4, 5, 6 (Mac and PC) and 7 (PC only). For some reason, I don't recall version 3.x suffering from this issue. Perhaps the volume of email was small enough back then to have less of an effect? In third place is PowerMail. I have had to clear quite a few duplicates over the years but all in very clearly defined bunches. The best I've seen so far has been Thunderbird but I haven't tested it at home yet. It is at home where I have experienced the problem the most. I have not yet played with Apple Mail enough yet to get a sense of its abilities to handle such things but I can't imagine it would be any different from the rest of the better ones. Why any one POP client would fare worse than another is the real mystery. The code for a POP connection at either end of the conversation should be well understood by now.
Re: Switching to Powermail maybe
Actually, one only has to do that once and then the folder structure is shown on ALL IMAP clients. Most importantly, it includes one's Sent mail data as well. The consistent and complete folder structure is the very strength of IMAP. Better yet, if the server is fairly full featured, one could set up all the rules on the server, thereby insuring that filtering is applied equally in all situations and not simply on the client that happens to have the filters defined locally. The other option is to define a full set of filters and rules on each client, making sure that said rules are identical in each case. A fair amount of work. I used to work exactly as you do. Multiple POP clients, with the primary one cleaning up the server database automatically and the others set to Leave on Server Indefinitely. That worked until my work environment evolved to a point where Exchange / IMAP became more useful and my personal email environment became gmail centric. On 25/08/2010 5:08 PM, Jefferis Peterson wrote: On 8/25/10 5:05 PM, PowerMail discussions wrote: However: Just for such cases (mobile mailing_and_ home/office mailing with the same account) an IMAP4 account should be your method of choice! It's much better and safer then a POP3 account. To understand the big difference have a look at this: Well, for mobile apps, that makes sense I guess. But for the home office, I don't want to store mail on the server and have it set to delete it after 30 days. Having a local copy and a searchable database of emails is part of my workflow. Otherwise with IMAP I have to leave it disorganized online or I have to duplicate my folder structure on the server. That is a pain and a duplication of my efforts. Not efficient or helpful. Jeff
Re: Switching to Powermail maybe
Sounds *exactly* like my experience. I too am moving towards IMAP, be it gmail or the MS Exchange version. It is not so much a choice as a realization that to do what I need to do with e-mail requires the migration from POP to IMAP. Yes, the interface in Mail is decidedly messier and busier than that of PowerMail. I have always liked PM's clean look and might, therefore, go back to it full time *IF* IMAP was given equal consideration as POP. On 25/08/2010 3:21 AM, MB wrote: Unfortunately, I'm not that fond of Mails interface nor the one mailbox per account, but as I'm slowly moving to IMAP, PowerMail is slowly loosing its value for me. I wish CTM would make IMAP full citizen, but I have seen nothing that indicates this could be on the horizon
Re: Can't Export to other formats
On 02/08/2010 7:30 AM, MB wrote: Rene Merz suggested: It's not at all! The database has his own proprietary format of PM. The database for the typical use is all of the email messages and the folders containing them, not the database format itself. Would the typical user be led to believe that the features of the PM database format is lost when export to say, Unix box format, and it was possible to select other formats after having selected to export all of the database? I think not. Are there any features of the PM DB-format, except being able to keep metadata for future import to another version of PM, that is worth even contemplating? I think the current interface for the export is more bewildering for non- technical users, than if PM would regard export of the database as the complete selection of the folders and messages. It's not merely a question of technical vs non-technical, I think. Rather it is a case of what assumptions should one make and how clear is the documentation regarding those assumptions. Other apps don't require one to make the distinction between all folders in the database and the database when exporting. The export just happens. Any necessary massaging of the data is handled by the export function. The documentation on the website makes no mention of this subtlety either. It only says that one can choose the format of one's choice and that's it. I've written many a user guide in my time on a variety of topics. I know when something is missing and you can bet your bottom dollar (or euro or yen or whatever you use) that somebody somewhere is going to trip on that missing piece of information. Here is the section of the online manual, the very section that Rene pointed out in his mail as well: -- Exporting messages and addresses out of PowerMail to other e-mail clients Exporting the mail database: Select the messages or the folder(s) you want to export (if you want to export a subset of your database), then select the Export item from the File / Database submenu. We recommend exporting your mail as set of Netscape / Mozilla, or Unix mailbox files since these are the most commonly used formats for interchange, and to check the include attachments checbox if you want to also export the files that were attached to sent and received messages. -- Unfortunately, Rene, it does NOT answer the question I had. It should have a sentence that states something like: --- NOTE: In order to export your entire database to a format other than PowerMail Exchange, you MUST select the option for specific folders and then select ALL folders from the list. --- I know that the manual has not always kept up with the times but this example seems more of a glaring omission than others. Anyway, thanks to all who took the time to answer! :-) Regards, Tim
Can't Export to other formats
Hello all, I just tried to export my mail and found that only the PowerMail exchange option is selectable. All other choices (T-Bird, Apple Mail, Unix...) are greyed out. I even closed the browser window to see if having a window onto the database was preventing it from working but no go. Any ideas? -- Tim Lapin t...@sympatico.ca Intel iMacOS 10.6.4PowerMail 6.0.5 4 GB RAM 250 GB HD
Re: Can't Export to other formats
On Monday, August 2, 2010, Mirko Kranenburg sent forth: Select a folder in your mail, then try again. If that works, you could select all your folders and export like that. Exporting without a selection can only be done for the entire mail database to PM Exchnage. Mirko Op Aug 2, 2010, om 12:10 AM heeft Tim Lapin het volgende geschreven: Hello all, I just tried to export my mail and found that only the PowerMail exchange option is selectable. All other choices (T-Bird, Apple Mail, Unix...) are greyed out. I even closed the browser window to see if having a window onto the database was preventing it from working but no go. Any ideas? Thanks for the tip. It seems a bit absurd, though, to distinguish between the entire database and selecting all the folders in the database. Also, is this distinction documented somewhere and if so, where? -- Tim Lapin t...@sympatico.ca
Re: Two New Problems Discovered since 6.0.5
On Wednesday, July 14, 2010, MB sent forth: Tim Lapin said: create filters based on outgoing messages which would allow us to choose such details as the sending account and the signature. I had set up just such a filter for PowerMail discussion posts. Well, I have such a filter. It's: ___ Filter outgoing To or Copy is powermail-discuss@ctmdev.com Do actions if All criteria is met Actions: Move messages to folder PM Set account to digital.discuss Run script add powermail discuss sig Do not execute following filters ___ It works nicely. The details involve making an extra account entry with the requisite info for the existing account in question along with the signature. Why would you need an extra account? Get rid of it. What are you talking about? You just admitted to the same thing: you made an account entry called digital.discuss. Where did you get that script add powermail discuss sig? Care to share? For the record, I set the signature in the identity section of the account I used. That was the reason I made an extra account entry. If it weren't for that, I wouldn't bother with the extra account. -- Tim Lapin t...@sympatico.ca
Re: Two New Problems Discovered since 6.0.5
On Wednesday, July 14, 2010, PowerMail Engineering sent forth: Tim Lapin wrote: I went to the website and while I could not find a specific answer to my question, I did find an entry for a new option involving filter logs. Joy! I was all set to use the filter log but then I noticed that I don't seem to have the menu entry for that either. To debug this problem, save an outgoing message as draft, then go in the Out Tray, and control-option-click the draft message to perform all filters with logging enabled. Jérôme - CTM Engineering Here is the result: To PowerMail List enabled1 condition condition met actions executed stopping It seems to say that it was successful but clearly it is not. For the record, I was using this filter for a long time WITHOUT change and with complete success until now. Here is my filter: Conditions: To is powermail-discuss@ctmdev.com Execute if all conditions are met Actions:Set account to: For PowerMail posts Don't apply subsequent filters to this message The account is a duplicate of the basic ISP account with the signature option set in the Identity section. I'm basically resetting my identity for the sole purpose of choosing a signature. -- Tim Lapin t...@sympatico.ca Intel iMacOS 10.6.4PowerMail 6.0.5 4 GB RAM 250 GB HD
PowerMail and iPhoto '09
Hello folks, I just upgraded my iPhoto to the latest and greatest(?) version of iPhoto, namely that of iPhoto '09. Of course, the inevitable happened and I can no longer select PowerMail as the preferred email client. I found out that what needs to be done is to write a PowerMail script and place it in the iPhoto package along with a .tiff icon file. The problem is that I am no Applescript writer. Is there a canned version of the old method updated for iPhoto '09? I could not find it on the guy's website. If not, can some kind soul point me to an alternate source of said script? Failing that, can someone show me how to alter the existing scripts to allow for PowerMail to work? Cheers, Tim -- Tim Lapin t...@sympatico.ca Intel iMacOS 10.6.4PowerMail 6.0.5 4 GB RAM 250 GB HD
iPhoto Problem solved
Hello all, Well, I found my own solution: simply manually transfer the existing script and .tif file from the patcher program's package contents into iPhoto's package contents script folder. Time to smack my own head and utter Homer Simpson's famous line: D'OH! -- Tim Lapin t...@sympatico.ca Intel iMacOS 10.6.4PowerMail 6.0.5 4 GB RAM 250 GB HD
Two New Problems Discovered since 6.0.5
A few generations of PowerMail ago, the software was improved to allow users the ability to create filters based on outgoing messages which would allow us to choose such details as the sending account and the signature. I had set up just such a filter for PowerMail discussion posts. The details involve making an extra account entry with the requisite info for the existing account in question along with the signature. In my case, I have a standard entry for my ISP generated email account and a near duplicate entry called For PowerMail, which has the signature you see below preset as an extra option. All was well until now. No matter what I do, I cannot get that filter to work. In order to send this email, I have set all those parameters manually. I have also disabled the filter just in case. I went to the website and while I could not find a specific answer to my question, I did find an entry for a new option involving filter logs. Joy! I was all set to use the filter log but then I noticed that I don't seem to have the menu entry for that either. Any ideas for either problem? -- Tim Lapin t...@sympatico.ca Intel iMacOS 10.6.4PowerMail 6.0.5 4 GB RAM 250 GB HD
Re: iPhoto Problem solved
On Tuesday, July 13, 2010, Robert Bauer sent forth: I would love to get a hold of that script and try it in iPhoto. Where can I get it? -- Robert Bauer Go to the following link and download the most recent version of the software. It is labeled as compatible with iPhoto 4.0.3. http://homepage.mac.com/jacksim/software/ -- Tim Lapin t...@sympatico.ca Intel iMacOS 10.6.4PowerMail 6.0.5 4 GB RAM 250 GB HD
Re: Can't Send Messages
Sounds like a flag that won't reset or possibly a corrupted database issue. Have you tried the various utilities available when starting up Powermail? (rebuild database, rebuild indices,...) On 09/06/2010 2:52 PM, Thomas Miller wrote: It is strange that I can send using mac.com (me.com) address from Mail, but no longer from PowerMail. Using my Gmail account or my ISP's is no problem from PM -- just mac.com. Also, although I used the applescript to delete the two Waiting messages, my Out Tray is still bold. It does lose the boldness when it's in the process of sending, but goes bold again after the message is sent. Tom Miller On Jun 9, 2010, at 8:45 AM, Thomas Miller wrote: Thomas Miller wrote: 2. In the event that a Waiting message was Trashed, how do you stop PM from remembering there is that message it couldn't send? On 6/9/10, at 2:31 PM, Rene Merz r.m...@telquel.net said: Use for such a case the integrated Script (at Script Menu) Delete Message Immediately, than close and restart PowerMail. Thanks. I'm sending this from Mail since I have 2 messages from last night that are still Waiting in the current version of PM. Tom Miller .. The only time we see the middle of the road is as we run from side to side. R.O.Clark ...
Re: Anyone at home?
On 19/03/2010 9:37 AM, Tobias Jung wrote: MBdigital.disc...@gmail.com wrote (Fri, 19 Mar 2010 13:54:25 +0100): At the outset of using Gmail in PowerMail on 2 different accounts I attempted to download every message for both accounts, which PowerMail and the server wisely choose to do in chunks of a few hundred You've got thousands of messages on a POP server? Well, I'd call that special... Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that an email client doesn't need to be able to handle such an amount of messages. It is, in my opinion, a special case nonetheless which might explain why no one else seems to have the problem you do. Kind regards, Tobias Jung I don't think you understand. Gmail is ostensibly an IMAP service, basically another email service in the cloud. :-) It is a service designed so that one never needs to delete mail and is accessible anywhere. However, it does have a POP front end as an alternative way in. Same mail store, different method. At work I have my copy of T-bird (PC, 3.x) configured to access both my gmail accounts using IMAP. At home on my Mac I have PowerMail configured to use POP to access the same accounts. In both the PM configurations, the account is set to leave the mail on server indefinitely, thereby mimicking the effect of IMAP. As a result, you *could* say that I too have a POP server account instance with thousands of messages on it. It even seems to have my sent messages as well sent from my POP instance at home. Nice feature. :-)
Re: Time for an update!
On 19/01/2010 12:16 PM, Paul Schatzkin (mobile) wrote: And I would NEVER used an e-mail program whose support srvice t relentlessly spams NON USERS with unwanted support e-mails without so much as an unsubscribe link in the msgs. This is lame, stupid and fucked up. How do I make it stop??? --PS Sent from my iPhone, which is why it's so short. There is an unsubscribe link. It is in the headers only, however. You might have to turn on full headers to view it, though: List-Unsubscribe: mailto:reque...@ctmdev.com?subject=unsubscribe%20powermail-discuss I agree that it would be better in the message body itself but at least it's there.
Re: PowerMail into the future
Alan Harper wrote: You speak the truth, Ben. And not only is Powermail competing with Apple Mail, there is also Gmail, which will soon rule the world. I mean, even Microsoft is worried about Google Apps. A Don't forget Thunderbird. I already use Thunderbird (on a PC) at work to monitor this account as well as my gmail account, by IMAP no less. I plan to convert all my home POP access (sympatico) to an equivalent IMAP account (gmail). I am well into the world of mozilla and google. All free, all easy to set up and use. As far as my wish list goes, I could not get my exchange account to work whereas it works like a charm with T-Bird. I must be missing something but the configuration of the account using T-Bird is as simple as ABC with no special issues to be dealt with, unlike my experience with PowerMail. Is it because my PC is already in the proper Active Directory domain and my home Mac is not? As a result (rightly or wrongly), I would like to see better IMAP support, something that I understand is lacking to some degree, almost by design. HTML mail is still something that needs work as well. One issue that does not yet plague me is the 2 GB limit, now handled by a workaround, IIRC. Speaking of IMAP and google, does anyone access their gmail account via IMAP in PowerMail? Do you find that it works well? Is it possible to convert an existing POP setup to IMAP or would I have to delete the account and recreate it using IMAP?
Re: Printing with too big font size
On Thursday, May 14, 2009, PowerMail Engineering sent forth: Urs Gruetzner wrote: Printing mails the font size is too big for my gusto. I have not found where I make the settings for printing in smaller font size. You can change the scaling factor in the page setup dialog, if you want the print font size to be different than the screen font size. Jérôme - CTM Engineering I don't think that is what he is after, as that would shrink the size of the whole printout, headers and all, relative to the paper. What is preferred is to have a separate font size control within the Print... dialogue box or perhaps somewhere in the PowerMail Preferences area. Other apps have done this in the past. An example is an old Telnet app called PacerTerm. -- Tim Lapin t...@sympatico.ca Intel iMacOS 10.5.6PowerMail 6.0.2 1 GB RAM 250 GB HD
Re: PM 6 beta (4574)
On Friday, November 21, 2008, Derry Thompson sent forth: Jeremy Hughes at [EMAIL PROTECTED] said on Fri, 21 Nov 2008 15:43:56 + I tried that a while back, and it wasn't a good solution. Ahh. Ok. In any case, I don't want bigger and bigger databases. I want separate databases for each email folder (like in Apple Mail). It's fine if these have a 2 GB limit. What isn't fine is a single monolithic database with a 2 GB limit. Yep, agreed. I agree, almost. Having a 2 GB limit per account somehow implies that email will be distributed normally between all accounts. What about the situation of 1 account getting, say, 90% of the email? How does having separate databases per account help there? How about the case of a single account? The method I thought they should have pursued is that used by Thunderbird, combined with archiving: every parent folder has a database of 4 GB. A parent folder refers to folders such as Inbox, Sent and so on. That implies that each account could have multiple 4 GB databases. The size limitation per database doesn't really matter under this method; it could be 2, 4 or any number since the email is now split into much more manageable chunks, especially given most users' desire to filter their mail into many folders. Add archiving to that and you got a permanent solution with almost limitless growth up to the size of your hard drive. In the interim, archiving by itself is an excellent solution. -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Intel iMacOS 10.5.1PowerMail 5.6.1 1 GB RAM 250 GB HD
Re: Attachment in code
Irene wrote, On 09/09/2008 3:09 PM: Can someone help me with this. Sent a .jpg attachment to a Mac user and was told it was not received as an attachment but as code inside the email. I think code means a lot of weird symbols and letters. The receiver is using Mail.app. I forwarded the same email to myself and received it with the attachment intact. So what can be done about this ? What could cause this to happen ? Can it be fixed ? Any help much appreciated. Irene Sounds like the message is being interpreted as something to be shown inline. Strange. Email clients which have that option know that such an operation should only be done for items detected as text. Are you sending it compressed or with some funky encoding for your images? What does your correspondent have as his/her settings for reading such email?
Re: PM 6 want list
On Sunday, August 31, 2008, Paul Collett sent forth: Something I'd like to see in PM 6 is improvements in the contextual (control-click) menu. I'd really like to be able to select a word or line of text and be able to search for that text in the mail database, or in Google, via the contextual menu. Currently if you select the text and open Search Messages, the text is sent to the find field, but there's no fast way to search in Google, is there? While we're at it, I would really love to be able to mark a folder as read from each folder's contextual menu. It's one of the little features in T-Bird that I find immensely useful. -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Intel iMacOS 10.5.1PowerMail 5.6.1 1 GB RAM 250 GB HD
Re: reason for HTML-only?
On Saturday, August 23, 2008, Michael Lewis sent forth: Matthias Schmidt sez: So yes, it gets more and more difficult t stick with PM. Can you not use the button at the bottom to switch to HTML view or view the message in a web browser. If neither of those work, than the email has crappy HTML code and it isn't PM's fault. -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com You miss the point, I think. These messages cannot be displayed by PM in any mode. I have received a few myself. If mail is increasingly of the HTML-only variety, then using PM becomes increasingly a chore as the very automatic nature of viewing email is changed. What it means is that more and more we will have to go down to the icon at the bottom of the page and click on that little globe, invoking a second program to do what the first program should have done but couldn't. I like text based email, you like text based email. Unfortunately, it seems relatively few other groups do. :-( As far as whose fault it is, such arguments are futile at best. If you really press the point, people will then point to the fact that other email clients can read the stuff, so why can't PM? A second problem is with the database and backups. I just upgraded to Leopard because of, among other things, Time Machine. I bought a LaCie 2 big Triple 1 TB drive (2 x 500 GB physical drives) and set the second drive as a mirror of the first. Combined with Time Machine, I now have redundant backups plus a whack of extra storage space. PowerMail, however, is the fly in the ointment with its monolithic structure. I know it is not alone in this and Apple clearly had Mail.app in mind when designing Time Machine but neither is Mail.app alone. Thunderbird can be set up so that its parent folders become separate databases; each one allowing a 4 GB file or database in effect. Eudora, though now in legacy mode, is another. The smaller files result in a less onerous automated backup by Time Machine. I can only be thankful that my database is small by the standards of some users here (? 150 MB and growing) through careful pruning of messages that are important in the moment but have no lasting value. It should be pointed out that the same problem would exist with any backup regime but I point to Time Machine as most of us have it and probably more than a few of us are either using it or thinking of using it. It is a slick, automated, no fuss product. Besides, free is good. :-) -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Intel iMacOS 10.5.1PowerMail 5.6.1 1 GB RAM 250 GB HD
Re: reason for HTML-only?
On Saturday, August 23, 2008, Richard Hart sent forth: Tim Lapin wrote: These messages cannot be displayed by PM in any mode. I have received a few myself. Are you sure you meant to write that? I believe you might be experiencing problems, but I have never received a message in PowerMail that cannot be displayed. What does that mean: cannot be displayed? Richard Hart Exactly what I and others have written. When one opens the message, one gets a blank window with an HTML attachment. Opening the HTML attachment forces the opening of a web browser application window containing the message. Other people have noted that such messages open properly in Apple Mail and I can attest that they open in Thunderbird. So, why not PowerMail? Look back in this list and you will see others have written about the same thing. The fact that it might be spam is irrelevant. The fact that it might be objectionable on principle to some here (including me, BTW) is irrelevant. If I have to see that message, I don't appreciate my e-mailer telling me in effect to piss off and use another product. I like PM but unless issues like this get addressed, I might have to reconsider. -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Intel iMacOS 10.5.1PowerMail 5.6.1 1 GB RAM 250 GB HD
Re: reason for HTML-only?
On Saturday, August 23, 2008, Michael J. Hußmann sent forth: Tim Lapin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Exactly what I and others have written. This thread started with the question: Do anyone here have clue on what possible reasons there could be to choosing to send HTML-only messages, instead of mixed messages without a pure text part as well? Then the thread got hijacked and now you are complaining about the well- known issue of PM being unable to make multiple HTML parts into something it can display. It might have been better to start a new thread if you want to discuss this (although I don't think anything has changed since Jérôme explained CTM's take the issue on 6/20/2008). - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de Ah, my mistake. Apologies. I have a summer head cold and clearly, I am not reading things carefully enough. As to the original question, I don't know, given that such messages are more likely to be considered spam. -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Intel iMacOS 10.5.1PowerMail 5.6.1 1 GB RAM 250 GB HD
Re: HTML mail comparison PM vs AM
On Saturday, June 21, 2008, MB sent forth: Sean McBride said: Did you look at his screenshots? There was an attachment. That's his point. I'll repeat his words: PowerMail shows me a totally blank message with a html attachment, with no provision for viewing the message. It's just blank. Lame. There's no globe icon to 'view as html'. The email had _two italicised words_ and for that PowerMail needs to launch a 3rd Party application to show the message. Lame. This happens to me all the time too. This happens from time to time since a long time. I've started working on a script for integrating the attached HTML in the message, but ran into some issues. I plan to finsih it when I got the time. Also, it would be better if CTM let PM do the same thing automatically instead of a us having to use a script. Depending on the cause and widespread adoption of non-standard email, I think it's not to much to ask from PM to be able to handle erroneous incoming email and in some cases allow corrections to be made. Just received such a piece of e-mail from Sophos, of all people. For the record, Thunderbird (PC) had no problems with it although it did initially block the images for security reasons. I unblocked them and the full message displayed. PowerMail, on the other hand, gave me the blank page page with an HTML attachment. Most of my other HTML messages display automatically as I have the reader enabled with the HTML preference AND the autodownload of pictures both enabled. Funny thing is, some e-mail, notably Apple's, won't show me the images unless I then manually download them. Conclusion: the behaviour is definitely not universal and is specific to both the message and the e-mail client. We need some work done here, guys. -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Intel iMacOS 10.4.11PowerMail 5.6.1 1 GB RAM 250 GB HD
Re: Review of Power Mail
On Sunday, June 15, 2008, Kjell Olausson sent forth: Bill Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More and more e-mail is in html format. Hardcore PowerMail users say they don't want to be bothered with this mail, that most of it is spam anyway, but that's not true in my community. When html mail arrives, PowerMail wants you to make a choice... open your web browser to read it, download the images, or read it as plain text (which sometimes turns out to be a blank screen). Other mail programs assume you want to read it, unless it's spam. What's more, the procedure for forwarding an html message is even more complicated than simply reading it, as others have been discussing on this list. A few extra keystrokes for each and every bit of html mail adds up to a big waste of time for users who don't want to try to stem the tide of html mail by ignoring it. Well, I read html mail in PM without any keystrokes. It's just a setting in the preferences. -- While I too prefer plain text e-mail I agree that more and more legitimate e-mail is now in HTML format. Unfortunately, PM doesn't really know what to do with it. Such e-mail might be readable in plain text but it also might result in a blank page. Extra steps are required to view this message by then having to invoke your browser. I am no longer sure I view this as a positive. Links and other actionable items in e-mail are another issue. Sometimes you have to double click to get the links to work in HTML e-mail. Other times you can CMD-click or CTRL-click (I forget which). Still other times the links aren't functional at all. In short, HTML e-mail is still a problem which is treated inconsistently. Version 6 will have to reconcile HTML e-mail once and for all, I think. -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Intel iMacOS 10.4.11PowerMail 5.6.1 1 GB RAM 250 GB HD
Re: powermail-discuss Digest #2831 - 05/17/08
On Saturday, May 17, 2008, Mark Winitz sent forth: How do I set PowerMail to delete messages from my e-mail server automatically when I download them to Powermail? Thanks, Mark Winitz That is normally the default action for POP clients such as PowerMail. Regardless, here is how to check. Look under the Setup menu and select Mail Accounts. Select the account in question and click on the second option Receiving. Make sure that Leave copies of retrieved messages on server is *not* checked. -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Intel iMacOS 10.4.11PowerMail 5.6.1 1 GB RAM 250 GB HD
Re: pwmail 6: i wish
On Wednesday, April 23, 2008, Dave N sent forth: I wish that the command-f for Find would allow a search of the current message instead of all messages except the very one I am working on. Dave N I second that wish. I have one of my own: - I wish that I could mark a folder as read from the ctrl-click contextual menu, just like Thunderbird does on the PC (I have no experience with it on the Mac but I assume that version has that feature as well). -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Intel iMacOS 10.4.11PowerMail 5.6.1 1 GB RAM 250 GB HD
Re: Newbie Has Questions
On Sunday, March 30, 2008, The Perfesser sent forth: Greetings, PowerMail People: Here are some if the issues/questions I hope to find resolutions/ answers for: 1) Exactly what purpose do the default In Tray and Out Tray serve? When my (IMAP) e-mail account is connected, all the incoming messages are displayed under that account's mailbox headers, and nothing show up in In Tray. I see now that messages I have sent via PowerMail show up in the Out Tray, but there is nothing in the In Tray Is that supposed to be configured somehow in preferences to determine what it displays? As pointed out by Bill Schjelderup, The IN and OUT trays are used by PM to store incoming POP and outgoing sent messages respectively. From what my experience with IMAP, such concepts are probably irrelevant when using a client-server synchronized approach like IMAP. 2) Speaking of In Tray, is it possible to rearrange the folders in the mailbox window so that I can put my e-mail account InBox at the top of that window? That would be preferable if nothing is going to show up in In Tray. Don't know but good question. They seem to be fixed in alphabetical order. The remaining questions relate to things I miss from Eudora: 3) Will the filters functions in PowerMail apply themselves to OUTgoing mail? In other words, when I hit send, will a filter automatically store that message in a folder I have designated? (Apple Mail won't do that, Rules have to be applied manually to the outbox) Mail filters seem to apply to outgoing messages but I don't know if there is any kind of limitation to that functionality. 4) I see a reference to waiting messages somewhere, but can't quite figure out how to place messages in a queue like Eudora would do (store messages in the outbox until I checked/sent mail). Likewise, this is a major function missing form Apple Mail). AFAIK, a waiting message is any message that has not yet been sent even though a send command was issued, for whatever reason. Waiting messages will be sent if possible on the next send. There is no way to have a timer on the queue as in Eudora but you can leave a message as a draft message. 5) And here's the big one: Is there any way to EDIT INCOMING messages? I need to do this quite often. People send me messages that are poorly formatted to the point of being unreadable. In Eudora I could open the message, edit it anyway I wanted, and save it as edited. I also use this for including cross-references -- links, etc -- in incoming messages. It's a very valuable function for me, one I would sorely like to find a program that replicates on the Mac. You can duplicate incoming messages but not edit the original. Quite frankly, I've never understood why someone would want to edit someone else's original e-mail. Such an action destroys the integrity of e-mail. I hope the above helps you in your decision. -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Intel iMacOS 10.4.11PowerMail 5.6.1 1 GB RAM 250 GB HD
Re: PM and unexpected quits
On Sunday, March 23, 2008, T.L. Miller sent forth: On 3/23/08, at 9:44 AM, Bill Schjelderup [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I too have been having a LOT more quits with Powermail since 10.5. I too use DefaultFolder, but I'd say 99% of these failures occur during drag events, i.e. when I'm dragging a message to a folder. Have you tried removing Default Folder and retesting? I have followed all these reports over the years with interest, not only because software like PowerMail, i.e. apps that perform what is now a well understood function like e-mail, should just work as the mantra goes. I am interested also because I've rarely had a problem with the package and that is with around 7 years of use. I have used and continue to use my Mac in a fairly vanilla configuration when it comes to apps that tweak how the finder or operating system in general behaves. I think the clue lies there. I work in the IT field and one option that suggests itself quite a bit - at least with Windows systems - is that of starting over and layering on the software cleanly and testing after each addition. Apps such as DefaultFolder should be checked quite thoroughly in such testing given what they do. I have a case right now between IBM's Via Voice and a host of apps on a client's eMac. I can't prove it outright until I remove the app and if necessary go through the above procedure. Certainly the logs suggest that it is at least partly to blame. Once you've managed to isolate the guilty apps, I would think that you have a choice to make, at least until the companies in question can get their act together. What do you need to do your job / live your life / whatever? Neither CTMDEV nor Apple is responsible for anything other than their own stuff, beyond certain obvious assumptions of stability in the recommended vanilla environment. Just my 2 cents. -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Intel iMacOS 10.4.11PowerMail 5.6.1 1 GB RAM 250 GB HD
Re: Shortcut gone?
On Saturday, February 16, 2008, MB sent forth: PowerMail Engineering said: It's a bug; the alternate shortcuts (control option left/right arrow) should still work however. Well, control-option left/right arrow doesn't work. Also it doesn't work in PM 5.6.1. All the relevant shortcuts work for me in 5.6.1. I haven't considered 5.6.2 yet but will post if the issue is still relevant when I finally get around to upgrading. -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Intel iMacOS 10.4.11PowerMail 5.6.1 1 GB RAM 250 GB HD
Need a Canadian English Dictionary for Power Mail
Hello folks, I have installed the US English version of PowerMail as at the time, I was not aware of a version which used Canadian English. Can PM be pointed to any dictionary of my choice or does it use a proprietary PM format only? If I can do this, what is a good dictionary file to use? -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Intel iMacOS 10.4.11PowerMail 5.5.3 1 GB RAM 250 GB HD
Re: deleted accounts
On Monday, January 7, 2008, Marlyse Comte sent forth: it rings a bell... but this was several PM versions ago and might no longer be an issue (but I can not recall what exactly THIS problem was). the only thing I DO remember is that you will need to go through your filters after because what I had happening after I deleted an account was some miss-filtering as some filters were referencing the now deleted account. ---marlyse former message(s) quotes: - Hi all; I'm about to 'rationalise' my email setup which might mean getting rid of some email accounts in PM. I seemed to recall that someone on this list had problems with Powermail after removing accounts from the Accounts list -- something about displaying mail in the browser if the account used to retrieve it was no longer in existence? The only thing I can recall is something I noted about Apple Mail. If you deleted an account in Apple Mail, all the mail associated with that account would be deleted along with it. I'm not aware of any problems in PowerMail associated with accessing mail belonging to deleted accounts. -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Intel iMacOS 10.4.11PowerMail 5.5.3 1 GB RAM 250 GB HD
Re: Focus Problem
On Sunday, December 16, 2007, A-NO-NE Music sent forth: Christian Roth / 07.12.16 / 6:02 AM wrote: I am seeing the exact same symptoms with PowerMail 5.5.3 b4480 on Mac OS X 10.4.11. The problems might have started with one of the recent Mac OS X system updates, I guess (either 10.4.10 or 10.4.11), but I cannot say exactly. Yes, I think 10.4.11 as well as Leo started it. It took me a while to realize 10.4.11 and Leo are the only thing has changed to my PM env. -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com I don't think it is strictly the O/S updates. I'm running 10.4. 11 (check the sig for more) with PowerMail 5.5.3 (build 4480) and have no such problems. In fact, the only font related problems I have are: 1) There are no font adjustment buttons in outgoing mail windows (current drafts or already sent) 2) There is still no way of adjusting the font size for printing separately from displaying. Perhaps an interaction with a 3rd party font/character set utility or other addition is causing the problem? -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Intel iMacOS 10.4.11PowerMail 5.5.3 1 GB RAM 250 GB HD
Re: PowerMail 5.6.1 universal released
On Friday, December 14, 2007, A-NO-NE Music sent forth: CTM info / 07.12.13 / 5:50 PM wrote: We are pleased to announce the release of PowerMail 5.6.1 5.6.1 still uses a huge chunk of memory under Leo. 900MB Rsize, and 1.8GB Vsize. Can this be improved or something is wrong with my system? The vm piling up (was it a memory leak?) seems to be better with 5.6.1 but still I am choking up with PM memory usage. Is anyone experiencing this? -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com Must be a Leopard thing or even a 5.6.1 thing. Here is what I get, using 5.5.3 under Tiger on an Intel iMac. The following was taken from Activity Manager just a few moments ago. PowerMail had been running for at least 8 consecutive hours, with 2 hours actual CPU time: PID Name% CPU # of ThreadsReal Mem. Virt. Mem --- - - - 210 PowerMail 0.30 1139.55 MB 397.62 MB -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Intel iMacOS 10.4.11PowerMail 5.5.3 1 GB RAM 250 GB HD
Re: Thanksgiving
On Sunday, November 25, 2007, A-NO-NE Music sent forth: Every year some of PM list members enjoyed my Christmas music. This year I added Thanksgiving music. It's an arrangement of a hymn as I do with Christmas music. Here is a live recording clip from last night: http://www.anonemusic.com/node/827 Y'know, we can play Christmas selections on all the shows during the season, but Thanksgiving music can be played only if the show is close enough to that Thursday! Hope you enjoy! -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com Very nice! Once again you have added something special to this community. I thank you. However, there seems to be a display problem with the page, at least on my wide screen iMac. It appears that there is some text that is cut off above the HOME and Contact options. I can only see the bottom tips of what looks like text. I'm using the latest Firefox. -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Intel iMacOS 10.4.11PowerMail 5.5.3 1 GB RAM 250 GB HD
Re: Very Odd, Auto Replies Went Chinese
On Thursday, November 15, 2007, Steve Tarpin sent forth: Something very odd happened... somehow my auto-replies via filtering were suddenly being sent in some cryptic conglomeration of Chinese characters. When I opened the filter-setup and opened the set reply option, indeed my previous reply was not there anymore and instead there was... well, look for yourself. ?栀愀渀欀猀 昀漀爀 ?爀椀琀椀渀最 甀猀? ?栀椀猀 愀甀琀漀?爀攀瀀氀? 椀猀 樀甀猀琀 琀漀 愀挀欀渀漀?氀攀搀最攀 ?攀 最漀琀 ?漀甀爀 洀愀椀 氀? 猀漀 瀀氀攀愀猀攀 戀攀 瀀愀琀椀攀渀琀 ?椀琀栀 愀 爀攀瀀氀?? 愀猀 ?攀 最攀琀 洀愀渀? 攀洀愀椀氀猀? ? 栀漀瀀攀 ?攀 挀愀渀 愀渀 猀?攀爀 愀渀? 焀甀攀猀琀椀漀渀 ?漀甀 洀椀最栀琀 栀愀瘀攀攀猀琀 爀攀最愀爀搀猀?匀琀攀瘀攀 Anyone else ever had anything like this happen? Addenudum. I noticed that you are running 10.4.11, while I am still at 10.4.10. Perhaps that has something to do with it? I ask because your O/S version got me curious and I did a manual software update check and voila, 10.4.11 is now out Will the upgrade cause the same problem or not is the question. -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Intel iMacOS 10.4.10PowerMail 5.5.3 1 GB RAM 250 GB HD
Re: Very Odd, Auto Replies Went Chinese
On Thursday, November 15, 2007, Steve Tarpin sent forth: Something very odd happened... somehow my auto-replies via filtering were suddenly being sent in some cryptic conglomeration of Chinese characters. When I opened the filter-setup and opened the set reply option, indeed my previous reply was not there anymore and instead there was... well, look for yourself. ?栀愀渀欀猀 昀漀爀 ?爀椀琀椀渀最 甀猀? ?栀椀猀 愀甀琀漀?爀攀瀀氀? 椀猀 樀甀猀琀 琀漀 愀挀欀渀漀?氀攀搀最攀 ?攀 最漀琀 ?漀甀爀 洀愀椀 氀? 猀漀 瀀氀攀愀猀攀 戀攀 瀀愀琀椀攀渀琀 ?椀琀栀 愀 爀攀瀀氀?? 愀猀 ?攀 最攀琀 洀愀渀? 攀洀愀椀氀猀? ? 栀漀瀀攀 ?攀 挀愀渀 愀渀 猀?攀爀 愀渀? 焀甀攀猀琀椀漀渀 ?漀甀 洀椀最栀琀 栀愀瘀攀攀猀琀 爀攀最愀爀搀猀?匀琀攀瘀攀 Anyone else ever had anything like this happen? http://www.keylime.com -- PM 5.5b2 -- G5 PPC 4x2.5 GHz 7G ram -- Intel PB 2.4 GHz Core 2 Duo 2G ram -- OS 10.4.11 Have you tried running that through a translator to see if it corresponds to your auto-reply text? If so, I would suggest that somehow the character set got reset somewhere along the line. -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Intel iMacOS 10.4.10PowerMail 5.5.3 1 GB RAM 250 GB HD
Re: Time Machine and Powermail
Richard Hart wrote: Lecoat wrote: Which rather brings us back, full circle, to the point I made a couple of weeks ago: that I find an automated and regular backup strategy is made difficult by Powermail, I respectfully disagree. First, my experience with SuperDuper is different from yours. It automatically backs up my disk drive while PowerMail is running. I have no problems restoring my mail. I can't speak for Leopard but I can tell you that Silver Keeper has never given PowerMail a problem when backing while PM is active over the many years I've used it. I tried to minimize those occurrences but when it did happen that PM was active during a backup, no ill effects were ever observed. As I am now on a single disk iMac (running Tiger), I am not backing up anything. In a few months, I will be buying an external drive and maybe Leopard too. At that point, some backup system will be put in place.
Re: Exporting from PowerMail - all mail is Unread
Barbara Needham wrote: Michael J. Hußmann on 9/21/07 said Jeremy Hughes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: ... my message database is still under 200 MB. As you can guess, I am not at all concerned about the 2 GB limit, as I am not likely to ever hit that 2 GB limit during my lifetime. Maybe that's a fairly typical user experience? I have 700 MB since 2002 but that is after compacting the database. And I do not get huge volumes of e-mail. I guess what we need to understand here is people's conception of huge volumes. Some of us will never approach 2 GB, while others seem to be flirting with it on almost a daily basis. So, is a huge volume of mail: -- more than X messages a day? -- more than Y MB a day of email, excluding attachments (which aren't part of the database)? -- something else? Clearly, an email package with strengths in one place (eg searching) and weaknesses in other places (eg smaller database sizes) needs to be put into the context of the expected use.
Re: Exporting from PowerMail - all mail is Unread
Barbara Needham wrote: Tim Lapin on 9/21/07 said Clearly, an email package with strengths in one place (eg searching) and weaknesses in other places (eg smaller database sizes) needs to be put into the context of the expected use. Well, huge is anything that makes your database get too big.' And I do kind of disagree with your last point, since the strength of the searching is the very thing that makes me want to keep all my mail hanging around. I've been able to search easily and quote exact answers from previous e-mails when necessary or useful. If I couldn't search it all I might not bother keeping it! I'm not sure as to which part you disagree. I never said you'd have to give up searching. I'm saying that one of PM's noted strengths is its searching capabilities. On the other hand, having a limit of only 2 GB is clearly hurting some users. Most other apps offer at least 4 GB, while a few others have a limit of 32 GB and at least one, Eudora, seemingly has NO limit owing to its structure. So, in that context, a limit of 2 GB is small and therefore a weakness for some here. Furthermore, it seems to outweigh all the advantages that PM provides for these users. Or, to flip your sentence on its head: If I can't keep ALL my messages at the ready to be searched, I might not bother keeping it! As to your statement of too big, again, I'm asking you to put some numbers there. Specifically what is too big?. I'll add one more to my initial list: -- the email client starts thrashing in its attempt to manage its database once it reaches Z MB in size. Not sure how that applies in a UNIX environment but I mention it anyway.
Re: A network interface error occurred - this is bad
The Monster Team wrote: On 8/29/07 at 11:27 AM, Marlyse Comte ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: I had it already happen in a similar case that I just had to re-enter the password in PM - even though it hadn't changed. marlyse, Yeah, I thought that too - have re-entered it (superstitiously) probably a half a dozen times already. :-\ Steve I would definitely install another POP client as a test. I've seen some odd things involving passwords that were not in sync on the server, sometimes between protocols! This can be especially bothersome if your ISP uses different physical hosts for POP and SMTP as we do at work. Installing another POP client such as T-Bird or using Apple's Mail program in POP mode would be a good test. My 2 cents' worth.
Re: Incoming email suddenly very large font
On Sunday, August 5, 2007, Christian Roth sent forth: Have you checked the text zoom buttons at the bottom left of your mail reading window? Does it read a different value than 100%? If so, use the small mountains :-) button to zoom the text display out, or double- click the zoom value reading to go to 100% directly. I never noticed that! Nice find. Now I can view at one point size and print at another. One problem, though. The magnification does NOT appear in the Sent Mail folder. Any ideas as to why this is so? -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Intel iMacOS 10.4.10PowerMail 5.5.3 1 GB RAM 250 GB HD
Re: annoying problem with power mail
On Thursday, July 12, 2007, Bruce Barrett sent forth: I've seen this happen sometimes as well, though it's now extremely rare for me. v5.5.3 Intel. Bruce -- Bruce BarrettSee my website at: http://www.brucebarrett.com As Moritz Majce wrote... I have got a really annoying problem with power mail (v. 5.5.3): whenever I open the new message window the email address input field is displaced to the left so that I cannot see the email address when typing. when I close the window and (re)open a new one the problem disappears. (see screenshot: problem.jpg) what can I do about this? I do not want to switch to apple?s mail but I cannot work properly with this bug.. best regards, moritz majce Well, I haven't seen it and your screenshot never made it to the list or at least not to my machine. Could you post your screenshot to a public photo hosting service on the web (picasa, photobucket, .mac, ...) so that I might see it? I'm curious to understand the problem and I can't seem to visualize it in my head. -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] G4/AGP/400OS 10.3.9PowerMail 5.5.3 640 MB RAM 2x40 GB HDs
Re: Data bug in forward messages
On Saturday, June 9, 2007, Mikael Byström sent forth: Rene Merz sa såhär: Seems that this little bug occurs only in the german version of PM. But mine is active in english as well. H. Mikael Tech facts: PM 5.5.3 Swedish | OS X 10.4.5 | Powerbook G4/550Mhz | 1GB RAM | 80GB HD Well, I take it back. I too have the repeating time problem. It is a time and not date problem. I tested it with several messages and noticed that while the date was correctly displayed, the time was not. The reason I was fooled with the message I used as a test was the time zone. If you reexamine my post, you will notice that the two times are exactly six hours apart, representing the time difference between the post I quoted and my time zone. A bug for sure. -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] G4/AGP/400OS 10.3.9PowerMail 5.5.3 640 MB RAM 2x40 GB HDs
Re: Data bug in forward messages
On Tuesday, June 5, 2007, Mikael Byström sent forth: Rene Merz said: If the sending and receiving date are the same (as it is usualy the case) then (and only then!) it writes same date _and_ same time for sending and receiving. So what we want under these circumstances are that the different time stamps for sent and received are reflected in the forwarded lines? Yes. Here is what the quoted headers in a forwarded version of your message would look like: (asterisks added to distinguish the text) *** Begin Forwarded Message Subject: Re: Data bug in forward messages Date Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2007 2:21 PM Date Rec.: Tuesday, June 5, 2007 8:21 AM From: Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PowerMail Discussions powermail-discuss@ctmdev.com Reply To: PowerMail discussions powermail-discuss@ctmdev.com *** As I said before to Rene, you'll notice that for me the date and time stamps are correctly displayed. Tim Lapin said: What puzzles me is why Mikael Bystrom would only see *one* date line and not two? Like you, I have always seen two dates. Perhaps it's due to his localization of PowerMail? Well, that seems to not be the case as I changed to english and I still only see one line in *forwarded messages*. Go figure. In short, I'm puzzled as to why Rene would have his problem and why you have yours. Go figure indeed. :-) -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] G4/AGP/400OS 10.3.9PowerMail 5.5.3 640 MB RAM 2x40 GB HDs
Re: Data bug in forward messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6/4/2007 9:09 AM, Mikael Byström wrote: This is what this shows (Swedish Translation): Vidareskickat brev Ämne: Re: Data bug in forward messages Skickat: måndag 28 maj 2007 12.31 Från: Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Try a test. After reading this message, click the Forward button. You should notice some header information inserted into the message below a line of dashes. What do the dates show? - Slut vidareskickat brev - Another message: Vidareskickat brev Ämne: Re: filerna Skickat: torsdag 10 maj 2007 14.32 A third message: Vidareskickat brev Ämne: j_security_check 404 not found Skickat: tisdag 1 maj 2007 11.07 As you see the dates are not the same. Unfortunately, your tests are incomplete as they should show TWO dates for each message and you only show one. Perhaps it's a setting one can tweak? The goal, as I understood the original poster's problem, was to compare the two dates shown in the forwarded message and check whether they are the same. At any rate, I see the correct dates when I do it but to get back to the person's problem, I will show what I see when I get home and am at my Mac. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGZBxiuprXnyzF8jkRAp4iAKCWy8wWbyivslbvq7Ah10joROMuyQCgmwdy EBrzF1TUYizqmMIsCiUFPh4= =6JVU -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Data bug in forward messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6/4/2007 10:41 AM, Rene Merz wrote: Here you have the proof of the problem: First line is SUBJECT Second Line is SENDING DATE AND TIME Third Line is RECEIVING DATE AND TIME But as I found out in the meantime, the _real_ bug is a small and conditional one: If the sending and receiving date are the same (as it is usualy the case) then (and only then!) it writes same date _and_ same time for sending and receiving. But there is no bug, if the two dates are different. Ah, that is a subtle one indeed. I will test this tonight, time permitting. What puzzles me is why Mikael Bystrom would only see *one* date line and not two? Like you, I have always seen two dates. Perhaps it's due to his localization of PowerMail? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGZCs+uprXnyzF8jkRAikEAKCOfnrMn5SBXzrjeA8fnZJs/0sj6ACeOiPg GH87+QCnAuwxpXfhRGufaLg= =DLt9 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: changing account on send
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6/4/2007 1:07 PM, Marlyse Comte wrote: coming across a really weird bug : select account A for the email when composing. all good. click on send - puts it in the outbox (correctly) but while doing so, changes the from name to a different account (one which I do NOT want to use and have not selected and is nowhere set in the account prefs to be that for account A. basically it switches the identity from selected account A to account B while putting it into the outbox. anyone see this behavior? any simple remedy, next to deleting accounts and trying to re-setup? Never saw this myself. Might it be a long forgotten filter/script combo? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGZEmUuprXnyzF8jkRAtVMAJwOneoi3GzHg0meHv41uOox5zJvBACfQECH ZGQV/IYAnUQ8VDuRDvkechQ= =hv5/ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: PowerMail 2GB Limit
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 5/10/2007 6:09 AM, Jeremy Hughes wrote: ... or changed to be a limit on individual mailboxes (folders), then PowerMail's days are numbered as far as I am concerned. I think it's a shame too. Jeremy That is the approach of Thunderbird. Each *main* or parent folder has a limit of 4 GB. I don't know if that applies only to the parent account folder or each separate folder *outside* the Inbox but either way it's an improvement over a 2 GB limit for the whole database. I like it so much that I use T-Bird for most of my work email, leaving my Exchange server account strictly for calendar - Blackberry synchronization stuff and other related uses. Yes, it would be a shame. I've stuck with PowerMail on my Mac since the early days of version 3.x. As much as I like T-Bird on my PC, I've grown used to the PM interface and am loathe to switch unless presented with no alternative. BTW, I do agree that IMAP will continue to gain converts with its ability to maintain not only sent email but the very structure of one's email environment. The ability to look at one's email in precisely the same fashion regardless of where you are and which computer you are using is quite useful. The only problem is server space management. I don't say the above lightly as I have been and continue to be a big POP3 user. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGQzLVuprXnyzF8jkRAn1GAKClnLHioD9U/kNc7peTK4RKp4FidQCff/s6 vlH0jhLVDj5VeUK9eoPgs/s= =yjhj -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: the list vs the user base (wasRe: bug or feature ?)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4/25/2007 10:58 PM, Matthias Schmidt wrote: Am/On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 17:52:35 -0400 schrieb/wrote Winston Weinmann: A user forum does not have that problem, but of course does not push questions out to users. A forum also keeps a more readily available history, and provides a place for evolving FAQ answers. I have wondered why CTM used a list as it seems less flexible than a user forum. Forums are slow and have all that blinky pinky stuff. It is inconvenient it just s*cks. I definitely prefer a mailing list. But we have also an achive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powermail-discuss%40ctmdev.com/ Thanks and all the best Matthias It is true that a web based forum will never be as fast or as clean in the interface as a text based mailing list but... Forums are only as slow as the load originating from them and the speed of the receiving computer. I'm not sure what you mean by blinky pinky stuff (emoticons, ads, something else, all three?) but there are some very clean ones. I find the Mozilla forums to be relatively clean and quick. Forums can be easier to follow because of a richer interface. The sorted threads (by larger topic first, then individual threads second) allow for a user to find what he or she is seeking quite quickly. A sound choice of board or forum names plus thread topics will of course help. FAQs can be built up quickly by the community and maintained by a central authority with not too much effort. Forums are self documenting in that the forum *is* the archive. Forum software is now almost an off-the-shelf affair. Most forum packages come with decent search tools included. In conclusion, while I find the current mailing list technology fine for a topic as focused as PowerMail, it is wrong to brand all forums with a broad brush. It is also bad debating form to dismiss something because it just sucks. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGMKgvuprXnyzF8jkRAqmdAJ0SH6NTtPFqwFaDJ5cKSFedOo4kWgCgnwn3 8vsRlHCyDInBhd05oMd6DbQ= =V2ZN -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: OS 10.4.9, PowerMail 5.5.3 - still can't print HTML email
On Tuesday, April 17, 2007, Winston Weinmann sent forth: Don - Thanks, but this is a workaround, not a solution. I do not like things printing immediately. I usually preview them first, particularly emails, which often have stuff I do not need at the end. Sometimes I only need to print the first page. PowerMail should print HTML email the same way a web browser prints it. Is there a fix in sight? - Winston Good question. I just tested it and PM 5.5.3 definitely prints without invoking the dialog box. More intriguing is that the print command actually turns on my USB connected HP 990cse inkjet I didn't think that was even possible. I guess the power button is actually a stand-by button, at least in the USB configuration. Oh well. -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] G4/AGP/400OS 10.3.9PowerMail 5.5.3 640 MB RAM 2x40 GB HDs
Re: locking PowerMail on download
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4/2/2007 1:10 PM, Alan Harper wrote: I am getting emails, I think from Russia, that are causing PowerMail to lock up. I have not isolated the email in question--it will take some time fiddling with the web-interface and I haven't had time to do so. What I do right now is go to the web interface at my ISP and delete all the spam in my inbox and then it works again. Any thoughts about what might be causing this? Is this a general problem with email clients, or a PowerMail-only issue? I have seen this and similar behaviours from several clients. As far as I have been able to figure out, it is due primarily to malformed headers in the emails in question which are passed on blindly by your ISP to you. Your client then has to deal with them. What puzzles me is the fact that some clients seem to handle these issues better than others. Another possibility is that you have more than one client session going simultaneously. Not likely in your case as you state that it only seems to happen with emails from the .ru domain but I mention it for completeness' sake. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGETtDuprXnyzF8jkRAs/iAJ9xu7uYzTXEqDC1mGvaVkJCrVzPGACeM6ud khuLBWV+4iCir2hzYBq09JU= =DjRn -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: New Mac Finally
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 3/15/2007 2:31 PM, Anthony Sanna wrote: One more thing. If you manually reinstall everything, it is a really good chance to spring clean your environment. Migration Assistant will copy apps which you haven't used for years :-) This is true. I've done it both ways. The one semi-successful method that Apple has is the Archive Restore when reinstalling the OS from DVD. It will save everything from the Users folder on up, but apps that operate primarily at the root level, like Retrospect, Norton or Stuffit, need to be reinstalled from scratch. In some thorny trouble-shooting modes, I have intentionally worked from a clean slate and the original install CD's or disk images. It amounts to a weekend watching progress bars, however. I just did a G5 - Mac Pro, and was absolutely blown away at how seamless the process was. Tony Can one be selective about the apps to be migrated? I ask because I have some stuff such as FAXstf which I don't want moved; it replaced some of the system's FAXing capability. There are also some remnants of other apps that are part of the system startup routine, even though the apps themselves have long since been removed. Now-Up-to-Date is an example. Given those questions, my inclination is to migrate only the data. I hope to get a new iMac to replace my aging G4 (400 MHz AGP) and do NOT want any useless baggage to be transferred. PowerMail should not be a problem as long as my data folder is intact or would I need to re-apply the license key should I reinstall the application from scratch all while retaining my existing data folder? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF+ZUkuprXnyzF8jkRAmtDAJ9eLXkiDYFIL0BnTVtjXbMwYJRbxwCcCmOH AMpUlnSkSdN9J2clSfeD0lY= =85WD -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Multiple databases (yet again)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 1/30/2007 3:00 PM, Marlyse Comte wrote: Searching large database has always been DevonThink's strength and this is now 99% perfect for me. The 1% missing is that attachments will not be imported nor linked, so you need to remember to remove them manually from PowerMail Attachment folder before trashing archived messages. And yeah, there are no links in the email which tell you which file was attached (oddly enough I have seen some iCal attachments make it through). I don't know if they will add some virtual linking or such in later versions. ---marlyse According to their website, attachments are sucked in with the mail. Maybe that particular feature doesn't work too well with PowerMail but the docs certainly imply that it does: See the following review by Charles Moore: http://www.applelinks.com/index.php/more/charles_moore_reviews_devonthink_professional_office_13b1/ More info: http://www.macmegasite.com/node/3301 NOTE: I neither work for nor use DevonThink. I do, however, consider it worth exploring and just might buy it in the future should my email needs become as severe as some here. Then again, I could start using Thunderbird, which has a 4 GB limit per parent folder. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFv7I/uprXnyzF8jkRAq7rAJ9Edno88dWhJhojKQgSO90tDfR6wgCeNwj6 GrOMJhacQybcvBL3iA9gnZU= =NR39 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: little orange and yellow dots
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/6/2006 3:31 PM, Pat O'Halloran wrote: It appears that on 6/12/06 at 19:58 Bruce Barrett spake thus: Hi, And now for something completely picky... As I edit new emails, especially longer ones (say, starting with a large amount of pasted text) little dots appear at the far left of the text input area, just before or touching the 1st text column. -- here :-) Sometimes 1 dot, sometimes 2. Looks like kind of like debugging info. They disappear if you resize the window. How come? Bruce I don't know but they've been there for years and through many versions. I posted to the list about them some time ago. Cheers What you are seeing is most likely the symbol used to indicate the text to which you are replying. I don't get dots, rather I get chevrons or in other packages, solid lines or bars. The reason some might disappear is that by resizing the window, you are changing the wrap point, most likely. As an example, my copy of T-Bird shows your example text with a solid bar as the quote character, while in this reply, it has been converted to a series of chevrons. Other than that, I can't imagine what you are seeing. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFdzRFuprXnyzF8jkRApHyAJ9cs7Umtz3w/ScOfyY6vxDZoRvcGQCgmRRl S4MaSM6D8qe2eZq7pM94V/Q= =L0Li -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: 2GB limit issue in 5.5?
On Friday, October 27, 2006, Wayne Brissette sent forth: On a related note, will the 2 gig limit be going away in a future version? Alternately, will we be able to use several databases simultaneously (i.e., let us split a 1.8 gig database into 3 or 4 smaller ones, but have them all open concurrently)? Can I ask a serious question? How often do people run into this 2 GB limit? I find myself every 6 months or so, going through and deleting hundreds of emails. I find that after 6 months I can usually get rid of 30% of my email, 1 year later I can get rid of even more mail. Usually I find for myself, that it's laziness rather than really needing email as the main reason I end up keeping so much of the email I have (do I really need Buy.com's daily specials 2 years later? --- don't laugh, I have found some on my computer). Anyhow, I just really wonder how many people really run into the 2 GB limit. Wayne I maintain a database that has never gone over 100 MB AFAIK, nor is it likely to in the future. It averages 90-95 MB before compaction and 78- 85 MB after compaction. I still have over 10,000 messages in the database. Like Wayne, I go through my folders every few months and toss quite a bit. On the other hand, I don't use it for my business per se, rather it is an alternate archive for work but mainly for home use. Even some of my work email has a shelf life. That being said, having a parent folder represent a different database or similar setup would be interesting. Thunderbird takes that approach and sees to function well. Just a thought. -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] G4/AGP/400OS 10.3.9PowerMail 5.5 640 MB RAM 40+40 GB HDs
Re: Power Mail quits 'unexpectedly'
On Saturday, October 14, 2006, Matthias Schmidt sent forth: my guess would be that the database is severly demaged. I'd trash everything related to PM (besides the license file) and download the current version (5.5fc1). Then I'D use a backup of the last working message database and try to convert that to the new 5.5 format. If that doesn't work, I'd try to repair the thing with 5.5 ... well if that doesn't help. There's a repair program out there [PowerMail Salvage] which might be able to fix the problem. All the best Matthias Before going to those drastic steps, try repairing your permissions with Apple's Disk Utility. It might not fix the problem but if it does then you won't need to rebuild your PM environment from scratch. -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] G4/AGP/400OS 10.3.9PowerMail 5.2.3 640 MB RAM 40+40 GB HDs
Re: cryptic to me
On Thursday, October 12, 2006, Marlyse Comte sent forth: receiving suddenly the following error message : unexpected error on name/port of incoming mail server' class='NetC', what=9, when=6, this is a new error and I am trying to understand what it means. any pointers? thanks! ---marlyse Under which circumstances do you receive the error (sending, receiving, logging in,...)? Is this a new account? If so, it might have different port numbers for both POP and SMTP access. -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2nd item in list stuck as highlighted
On Wednesday, September 27, 2006, Richard Hart sent forth: Yes. I had this problem for a long time, and it stumped PowerMail support. I can't give you specific steps to apply, but I do know it has something to do with number of messages in the database. At the time, I had more than 5,000 messages. For unrelated reasons, I reduced this to about 3,000, and the problem disappeared. RH When you say a long time, do you mean pre 5.5b2? If so, I find it strange. I have been using PM for years and have never seen this behavior from 5.2.3 going back to version 3.x. -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] G4/AGP/400OS 10.3.9PowerMail 5.2.3 640 MB RAM 40+40 GB HDs
Re: Message priority
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 9/27/2006 3:53 PM, PowerMail Engineering wrote: Wayne Brissette wrote: You would have to save it as a draft, then apply the script. The script would have to be responsible for sending the message, because you're absolutely correct, filters don't get run until after they are sent. Since some time (PowerMail 5.0 maybe), outgoing filters are applied before sending, so they can change the account, add a BCC recipient and other useful things. Jérôme - PowerMail Engineering Does this mean I can associate a particular signature with a given recipient in the To: field? (assuming only one To: recipient) As a rather trivial example, when I post to this mailing list from my home mac (I'm at work right now using a Windoze machine) I normally use a signature which contains my system stats, including PowerMail version. As one might expect, I don't always remember to do this. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFGuYSuprXnyzF8jkRAlLoAJ9WWEDgMWetrEIDkJz+tH9rIN4GNQCfQenQ MmEjyJJokvy6apXFS1mAH0E= =nxGh -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: total DB breakdown and asian font rendering - nailed it (resent)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matthias Schmidt wrote: the message did appear already some time ago. Jérôme was asking you to send him that message to jerome at ctmdev dot com. I have the impression you have a serious problem with your mail-server or your mail-setup and not with PM itself. Maybe even a problem with your Mac? All the best Matthias Mathias, If, as you say, he has a problem with his ISP/setup, posting a reply to the list ONLY does him no good. According to the headers in your message, that is exactly what you did. Instead, why not 'cc' him on your reply? It's possible that the email problems are specific to a few domains, as was my case (see below). Did you forward him a copy later? When I was having similar problems, Jay very kindly forwarded on to me certain posts which were relevant to a discussion I started. In my case, the problems were definitely ISP related and temporary. I even got a $10.00 reduction for that month for missed email. :-) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE9ZgCuprXnyzF8jkRArNPAJ4zIUqzTYw/NtiwF7YyxQyt4pHrnACdFJmh yR2Ds9x7HvB+yv5nVBbLblg= =OqlI -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Sig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 A-NO-NE Music wrote: Ouch! I forgot to use different sig for this list on my last post. This begs to a question. Is there any way to use specific sig per To automatically other than creating a forum specific email address? -Hiro Hi Hiro, As you might remember, I have been asking for that feature for going on a year now. I even wrote out the pseudocode / flowchart as to how it might work. I doubt I will get it. :-( -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE0MeEuprXnyzF8jkRAlG6AJ4tOm/1NNN8B97StR7CgpkvM4QVlACfTwgP 8wJrbH2/tlMV2J2+ew2fjG8= =tw3w -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Panics, Intel and PowerMail?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alan Harper wrote: I suspect that PowerMail is at the root of the problem, but can't be sure. I am also having the problem of PowerMail being unstable--often it crashes, and then often when it comes back, it needs to re-index files for 10-20 minutes before I can use it. The new system may have reduced the frequency of these crashes. I am not trying cast aspersions (yet), but wonder if others have seen similar issues on Macintel machines. A - From an email by Jerome of CTMDEV to the list from June 9: PowerMail is more unstable when running with Rosetta. We are working hard on a universal binary version of PowerMail; it's neither an easy or fun task, but we are progressing significantly. Jérôme - PowerMail Engineering Until they announce a Rosetta friendly version, I would indeed suspect PowerMail as one of the culprits. I also would hesitate to switch platforms without first switching email clients, even if only as a temporary measure. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEsmwAuprXnyzF8jkRAoSVAJ0RKclHSSTGkfBAhCvKG8C2eM0q5gCePfd3 ZPnyyfKhtOrvCQ+MoJGPtfI= =Tzl8 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Is anybody there?
Just checking to see if this list is alive or in one of its confused states where it seems to disappear for days. For the record, it has been almost 36 hours since the last message: Re: PowerMail instability (Intel) from Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] G4/AGP/400OS 10.3.9PowerMail 5.2.3 640 MB RAM 40+40 GB HDs
Re: Hiding PM
On Saturday, May 13, 2006, computer artwork by subhash sent forth: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Hmm, something definitely wrong there. Can only suggest reinstalling Powermail? I did. Doen't work for me since the first version of PM I bought. I cannot look which one this was now. I think it is a known issue. It was discussed on this list earlier and found no solution. Interesting. Not once have I experienced this to my knowledge, outside of possible OS 9 irregularities; yes, I started using PowerMail while still using OS 9. :-) Perhaps it has something to do with your language's version of OS X and PM combined? Or do you use the US English version of both? -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] G4/AGP/400OS 10.3.9PowerMail 5.2.3 640 MB RAM 40+40 GB HDs
Re: Constant Contact/Exporting
On Friday, April 14, 2006, Howard sent forth: Steve Tarpin Fri, 14 Apr 2006 08:31:21 -0400 snip Now I've tried exporting email addresses from PM before and with little success. From what I understand, I can export the ENTIRE database, but not specific groups. snip Steve Steve, While PowerMail's export doesn't have a feature to export selected address groups or folders, there is a solution: Quit PowerMail, make a copy of your PowerMail folder, turn off mail checking (easiest way is to disconnect your ethernet cable or turn off Airport, whichever is used for internet). Open the copied database in PowerMail, delete the addresses you don't want, then export what's left. Delete the copied folder, and revert to your original. Howard Another option is to use an application such as Apple Address Book, which does allow for selective exports. To do this, sync your entire address book with Apple Address Book, then export the groups you want. The resulting file is a .vcf (VCARD) format. You will need to massage it further with a second application to get the desired file format but at least it's a start. Has anyone tried to solve this problem with Palm Desktop, Entourage or Now Up To Date? -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Changing the default browser
On Friday, January 6, 2006, Wayne Brissette sent forth: This was one of the major complaints we received in AppleCare. It really seemed stupid to most customers that to set a system level change, you had to use a browser to change a browser. We filed a bug to the Apple Engineering Team, but marketing decided that it wasn't worth changing. Never did figure that out. Wayne Hi Wayne, (and happy new year to all!) Well the clue, at least as I understand the universe, is in your reference to Marketing. I believe they are counting on two things: 1) Path of least resistance. Safari is already there, it does the job so people get hooked and start saving bookmarks. 2) It is NOT obvious to the average user how to switch browsers, especially given how Apple *used* to do things with a system level control panel. It is also NOT obvious to the average user how to export bookmarks. -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Suddenly an Error
On Wednesday, November 23, 2005, Tom Miller sent forth: And now another Unexpected error on... See http://homepage.mac.com/tlmiller/PMerror.jpg In the years I have used PM, I've never seen these before. Tom Miller -- latest versions of PM OS X on an iMac G5 .. The only time we see the middle of the road is as we run from side to side. R.O.Clark ... The first one regarding authentication suggests a few things: 1) Your server requires authentication on sending and your settings don't match. 2) They have recently upgraded their authentication setup. 3) You are using mail relaying or forwarding which your ISP does not allow. If it happens intermittently, that suggests a network or server issue. I would phone to verify that and ask if they have been playing around with the SMTP authentication setup. For more info, see the following page regarding .mac email and this error: http://homepage.mac.com/bruce.mckenzie/blog/C1703310809/E1287578525/ The second one is undecipherable. Firstly, we have never had a list of such error messages with their meanings attached in the docs and the one you quote seems to be incomplete. It reads: when=6,. What is missing is: err= value, where value is a number -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Proliferating PM Keys
On Tuesday, November 1, 2005, Karel Gillissen sent forth: hi Tim, If there is no problem, why change things? If it ain't broke, don't fix it... Karel My point exactly. I'm glad we agree. :-) It *does* call into question the validity of that particular FAQ item, though. -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Proliferating PM Keys
On Tuesday, November 1, 2005, Karel Gillissen sent forth: Hi Ira There was a posting in 2002 (thanks, foxtrot!): Keys should not have a number at the end, otherwise they keep duplicating. It is also in Tim's FAQ: http://home.hpo.net/timm/PowerMailFAQ.html#3.1 Karel My PM 5 key has a number at the end and no duplication has happened. Should I rename it as the FAQ suggests even though I don't have the reported problem? Thanks for pointing me to the spot, though. I found two older keys (PM 4 and a PM 5 demo key). -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Disappearing Folder - Need Help!
On Saturday, September 24, 2005, Tom Miller sent forth: Not impossible, but this is an iMac G5 and I'm a 12 year Mac user and a 4 year PM user who hasn't had so much as a beer in the last three weeks. 3 WEEKS ?!? That's way too long. You need an IV drip stat! :-) Don't you know that beer is 1/4 of the 4 main GUY food groups? The others are: Meat Grease Chips -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Signatures (Feature Suggestion?)
On Thursday, September 15, 2005, Rick Lecoat sent forth: Tim; Yes, the 'fly' that you mention is exactly the problem that I foresaw in my own post in this thread -- multiple, conflicting, Address Book- dictated sigs. You say that you do not see the situation arising often, but remember that this thread started with Simon who raised the issue because he regularly experiences that exact situation and hoped for n automatic solution. (Quoting Simon): Most of my mail goes to about 5 different people. Persons A and B get sig 1 applied. Person C and D always get sig 2 applied. Person E always has sig 3 applied. Shouldn't I be able to tell PowerMail that those signatures should always be added to emails going to those people? So Simon is asking to be able to send one email that gets different sigs applied according to which address it is going to. I'm not sure that is possible. Actually, I took a different reading of his post. Nowhere does he say that he is sending the same email to 5 different people. Therefore, I concluded he is sending different emails to different people, in the groups he specified. -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Growl and PowerMail
On Sunday, August 21, 2005, Tim Hodgson sent forth: I also found that the 'Powermail notification script' didn't register with Growl until I resaved the Applescript over the original, as Pat suggested earlier. No idea why this should be, though! TimH Permissions, perhaps? -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Updating PM's UI?
On Tuesday, August 9, 2005, Steve Abrahamson sent forth: On 8/9/05 at 12:40 PM, Tim Lapin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: IMAP usage seems to be on the rise and if PM wishes to be relevant to the IMAP community, IMAP must be fully supported. I'm not sure I get that one. PM supports IMAP. I've used it - it's fine. That said, I only used IMAP for a while. What can Thunderbird do with IMAP that PM can't? Steve Abrahamson Oops, posted without checking fully. I just read the manual, or what passes for one, and found that PM does handle remote folder management and other IMAP particulars reasonably. -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Updating PM's UI?
On Tuesday, August 9, 2005, Steve Abrahamson sent forth: ...and it's that sentence that makes me concerned that you still don't follow what I'm suggesting. I'm not saying that it should work differently, or be re-organized, or break it's similarity that many of us feel to [EMAIL PROTECTED] What I am suggesting is for it to break it's similarity with 2001, and adopt 2005. (2001 called - it wants it's user interface style back.) It's just style, gang. But isn't that an important factor of why you use a Mac? Does that make more sense now? Steve Abrahamson Actually, I don't know if I agree with that. I appreciate the cleanliness of the current interface. I have never liked the look and feel of Mail.App, although I should point out that I have not seen Tiger's implementation. As far as style goes, yes it's nice but form must follow function, not the other way round. How can one significantly refresh the current design without moving things about? Could you provide some examples of this new look? -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Updating PM's UI?
On Tuesday, August 9, 2005, Steve Abrahamson sent forth: Anthony, Maybe you misunderstand what I mean when I say update the UI. I'm not talking about overhauling it and making it unrecognizable. I'm talking about modernizing it - that should be done in a Mac app every year or so (especially with the moving UI target that OS X is). Steve Abrahamson Ascending Technologies FileMaker 7 Certified Developer http://www.asctech.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't think Anthony - or anyone else for that matter - is asking CTMDev to make it unrecognizable. I think you and he are talking about the same thing using different words. In short, semantics. On Anthony's query, I DO think having control over printing with a separate font/size choice is not only a good idea but one that has been established years ago by other products. The old PacerTerm is an example. There are a few items that need cleaning up: - Dirty screen redraws sometimes leaves bits of the old text superimposed on the new text. - I still want signature/recipient matching using PM's Address Book database - An up to date in-line help PLUS manual shipped with the product - People have brought up IMAP management; is this still a problem? (I use POP) Although not an interface issue, I bring up IMAP because of my recent experiments with Thunderbird on my work PC and a colleagues work Mac. From what I can tell, T-Bird has been created with IMAP in mind more than POP and by all reports does it quite well. IMAP usage seems to be on the rise and if PM wishes to be relevant to the IMAP community, IMAP must be fully supported. Don't forget, T-Bird is free and is a current generation emailer, not a dinosaur like Eudora. FWIW, I too was a Claris Emailer refugee and was instantly attracted to PowerMail's interface going back to version 3.x BECAUSE of its similarity to Emailer. -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] G4/AGP/400OS 10.3.9PowerMail 5.2.1 640 MB RAM 40+40 GB HDs
Re: PM on Mactels?
On Wednesday, June 8, 2005, Michael Lewis sent forth: A-NO-NE Music sez: No, you have Wintel and now we'll have Mactel. You have W-Intel, and now we'll have Mac-Intel :-) I like Macintel. picks up the in of MacINtosh and INtel, melding the two words nicely. Plus, there used to be a clone maker named MacTell. Sorry for adding to the off-topicness. Looking for a bit of fun on an unfun day. :) -- Michael Lewis In that light hearted spirit, I add the following: If you don't kiss 'n tell, will you Macintel? :-) :-) All kidding aside, we still have a year before the first ones roll off the assembly line and two years before the whole lineup has been replaced. That means there will be plenty of time for developers like CTMDEV to verify their code. -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why does rebuilding database mount file systems?
On Wednesday, May 4, 2005, A-NO-NE Music sent forth: Steve Abrahamson / 2005/05/04 / 12:44 PM wrote: On a related not about file references, I've noticed over time that PM has lost file reference integrity. An example: I got pics from a ski trip from a friend; when I went back to find that picture, PM thought the enclosure was an html file - clearly wrong. On a related note :-) If the mail is older than a few month, all the attachments within PM display are grayed. Nope, I didn't move them. I can find them in the attachment directory easily, but this can be time consuming if the file name is rather generic. I was kinda giving up on it, tho. -- - Hiro I have not seen this. In fact, just for fun I went back a year and found my attachments to be selectable and in working order. It is possible that you both need to run some disk checks and/or permission utilities? -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why does rebuilding database mount file systems?
On Wednesday, May 4, 2005, A-NO-NE Music sent forth: I believe latest pub beta changed this behavior. Which version are you using? -- - Hiro From the header of Robert's message: X-Mailer: CTM PowerMail version 5.1 build 4340 English BTW, I hope you are right about the fix. While I have never encountered this phenomenon, there is always a first time for everything. -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tiger and eMail
On Friday, April 29, 2005, Brian Jacobs sent forth:
After your posting uploaded and downloaded a test 1Mb file
on broadband. Seemed to work same speed as normal.
Download possibly even faster than usual but no previous
timings to make an accurate comparison.
Have a look at your System Preferences/Network and make
sure all is OK.
Brian Jacobs
How did you do the upload / download? (HTTP, FTP, SMTP/POP {e-mail})?
The reason I ask is that the problem to which people are referring is
strictly e-mail traffic. Courtesy of the people on this list, we now
have two independent reports of email slowness, so I would not look
further than the change in the OS as the culprit.
Perhaps IMAP would work faster. Admittedly this might only solve the
incoming portion but it's worth a look. Are there any Tiger equipped
users who are willing and able to give it a try?
--
Tim Lapin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fwd: Re: picture problem
On Thursday, April 28, 2005, Gerald F. Carroll sent forth: Further to this problem, i had the same problem again from another MAC user. Just to try something i decided to forward it to my .mac account. In the window that opened that had the message i was forwarding the attachments appear at the bottom. In the original messages that part with the attachments doesn't show up. Does this second user also use Apple Mail? Ask them if they are sending the mail in Rich Text or Plain Text. If he is using Rich Text, tell him to change it to Plain Text. If that does not work, here is a web page dealng with Mail's quirks: http://www.ncmug.org/tips/mail_attachments.html I know the problem sounds like it's a PM issue but don't forget that ..mac, like Mail, is an Apple creation. I would expect those two items to work perfectly together. -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: picture problem
On Wednesday, April 27, 2005, Gerald F. Carroll sent forth: I have a friend with a MAC that has tried to send me pictures while in iphoto. Power mail doesn't seem to like them. here is what i get in the body of the message IMG_8567.JPG There is nothing at the bottom to indicate there is a message attached. I got him to send a copy to my .mac account and the pictures come through. Has anyone seen this problem before. Gerry Are you both using PM or just one of you? If so which one? I use PM to send photos culled from iPhoto all the time without incident. In fact, I use iPhoto's own email link to do it. Which version of PM, iPhoto does your friend use (assuming he uses PM)? -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Feature Request
On Tuesday, April 19, 2005, Chuck Joiner sent forth: The current schedules can only do something every interval, not at specified time. It'd be a huge productivity tool for me, to be able to schedule things on time. Anyone else? Is it just me? This is what I've always missed most about Claris Emailer. It's the missing feature that prevented me switching to Powermail earlier than I did. Over the years I've learned to live without it - but it would be great to have it back. Count me in as three! ---Chuck Make that four. Eudora has this feature - at least it used to - and I used it to great effect. I had no recollection that Emailer had it and I used Emailer for years! :-( Add to this my suggestion of having a preferred signature field in the address book entries and you would be making me one happy PM user. -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: powermail-discuss Printing
On Friday, March 18, 2005, Andy Fragen sent forth: Curious. I just printed something and it's gone. -- Andy Fragen Hello Is there any way to disable that grayish background I get when printing a message's body? Thank you Giovanni Andreani The only gray colouring I get is in the message header area. The text body has a plain white background, as always. -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Still Love PowerMail but...
On Monday, March 07, 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent forth: Snail mail composed on a typewriter is virtually non-existent because such communication is merely verbal and the graphic encoding potential of the page is a missed opportunity to communicate more effectively. Your argument is too narrow in scope and therefore misses a key point. I think the main reason snail mail, typewriter or no, is virtually non- existent is due to the fact that it is TOO SLOW. If I can send a thousand emails in less than 30 minutes with the options of cc'ing a mail, cut and paste and yes even attachments, why would I resort to the old fashioned way involving the cost of stamps, the hassle of trudging to the Post Box or Post Office and so on? As for graphic potential, the typewriter never stopped that. People simply added pages with drawings and the like. Makes for a thick envelope but it did the trick. Finally the rest of your argument is interesting but as someone else pointed out, it violates long standing and well tested standards. In addition, there is nothing wrong with pointing someone to a web page if indeed a multi-media experience is worth a thousand words. Just my 2 cents in favour of a text based email universe. -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] G4/AGP/400OS 10.3.8PowerMail 5.1 640 MB RAM 40+40 GB HDs
Re: Moving from PM4 to PM5 good experience [u]
On Wednesday, February 09, 2005, Michael Lewis sent forth: What does PM look for to determine the mail is from a list? The reason I ask is that I see the arrow (now that you pointed me to it) at the bottom of a Powermail List letter, as well as my DealMac.Com listmail, but not one I get from Dreamcatcher (which is HTML I'm viewing in its text alternative) or one from COMPUTERGUYS-L. A quick look a the long headers and I see the latter doesn't have a LIST- UNSUBSCRIBE under Precedence: List. Is that it? Should I email the list owners to try to include them, or is this a non-standard or semi-standard thing? -- Michael Lewis I believe that the headers do indeed tell the story as you suspect. Here is the relevant header section from your email to this list: List-Subscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Digest: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] As can see, it is a one for one match to the choices offered with arrow icon. So if you have a list whose mail does not show the icon, perhaps you should ask them about reformatting their headers to include such info. Hope this helps! -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Moving from PM4 to PM5 good experience [u]
On Wednesday, February 09, 2005, Barbara Needham sent forth: Michael Lewis on 2/9/05 said Was that mailing list un-subscribe icon there before and I missed it? Very handy. I don't see this icon. Does it only show up if it knows a message is from a list? Only if from a list. It's at the bottom of the message [in 3 pane view] and has an arrow on it. The arrow icon appears in an open message in 2 pane view as well. I approve wholeheartedly BTW. -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No hard wrap of text
On Saturday, December 11, 2004, C. A. Niemiec sent forth: From what I've seen, PowerMail puts no breaks in incoming mail. I have some messages here and there that freeflow when the window is resized (plaintext, not HTML/etc.). Chris -- You just contradicted yourself from yesterday: :-))) PowerMail inserts line breaks in outgoing mail automatically. It's been discussed a few times here. Something official was said by CTM about this (though I can't find it at the moment). See the following... Chris For what it's worth, I agree with you this time. As I said in a post just prior to yours, the line breaks are enforced by the mail servers (and/or relays as others have pointed out). The person generating the email can do what he wants in his e-mail client's window but as long as he is sending plain text, his e-mail will be subject to whatever formatting the intervening hosts apply. -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No hard wrap of text
On Friday, December 10, 2004, Urs Gruetzner sent forth: Where can I stop Powermail to hard wrap the text of my mails? I want Powermail to send my mails without hard line break. Thanks Urs I'm not sure you can. As I understand it, the mail servers themselves can and do enforce a line length limit, with the hard return being the method of choice. Check with your ISP to be sure. -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] G4/AGP/400OS 10.3.5PowerMail 5.1 384 MB RAM 40+10 GB HDs
Re: Mail Filter Request
On Sunday, December 05, 2004, Tim Lapin sent forth: That already exists, if I understand you correctly. Simply do the following: Highlight the filter in question Look under the Mail menu and select Label Pick a colour of your choice. You can use the same colour for any number of labels; indeed I do it for a number of related filters. -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whoops! My bad. I was describing folder colours. Sorry. That's what happens when I get distracted and try to type after a weekend curling match. -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mail Filter Request
On Saturday, December 04, 2004, Anthony Sanna sent forth: Each time I'm to edit a Mail Filter I go nut because it takes *minutes* to find the right one. (Yes, I do have many..) Labels - If none of the above are doable, how about color labels for the filters? My 22 Compter filters could be yellow, and my 8 Company filters could be blue, and so on. This couldn't be very difficult to program. Tony -- That already exists, if I understand you correctly. Simply do the following: Highlight the filter in question Look under the Mail menu and select Label Pick a colour of your choice. You can use the same colour for any number of labels; indeed I do it for a number of related filters. -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Quickbooks 2005
On Thursday, December 02, 2004, David Gordon sent forth: Net Virtual Mailing Lists wrote on Thu 02 Dec 2004 at 02:29 -0800 Quickbooks Pro 2005 and one of the features is the ability to email a customer an invoice/statement/etc... However, when I try to do this Quickbooks reports This email application is not supported with this version of QuickBooks. I just upgraded my MYOB accounts application and came across the same problem. A solution for both please!? -- David Gordon It seems to me that the appropriate place to initially address this issue is with Intuit. It is their software that is complaining, not anything else. Perhaps they now have some form of RTF, HTML or other non plain-text outgoing requirement? Perhaps it's simply a bug in their mail calling routine? At any rate, give them a call. -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Header question
Hello all, I've recently noticed an odd behavior with viewing headers. When I have View full header selected, all messages display their headers at the bottom. However, if I have it off while viewing a message and then turn it on, the headers appear at the TOP! Any ideas? I've never seen an email program do this with headers before. I checked the list of improvements in the newly announced 5.1 Production version but did not see anything. -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] G4/AGP/400OS 10.3.5PowerMail 5.0.1 384 MB RAM 40+10 GB HDs
Re: Performance decrease with address lookup?
On Sunday, November 14, 2004, Marlyse Comte sent forth: in my case, when I still tried following your exchange, you guys where talking martian for all that I know, and I am not THAT illiterate when it comes to computers. soo... I can only assume that the same thing happened to many other readers too. which again would be a pointer why you don't get more input of other users. ---marlyse Their exchange made perfect sense to me yet I also think the discussion has left the confines of this list. IMHO, the biggest reason they don't see too many replies is the fact that the person with the problem is still using 10.2.8 AND the beta!! How many PM users still use 10.2.8? How many jump on board a beta? How many have both? I am a computer professional for a university and have to deal with betas and interactions on a regular basis. It is mainly because of that fact that I almost never use betas, especially with bought software. I figure I've paid for a license to use working software so I will wait until the production version is released. The second biggest reason, again IMHO, is that the discussion has taken on some nasty overtones and most people would rather just stay away. -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] G4/AGP/400OS 10.3.5PowerMail 5.0.1 384 MB RAM 40+10 GB HDs
Re: Address Book Syncing [was: Exporting Addresses...]
On Friday, October 15, 2004, alan sent forth: Not for those of use using iSync. Dan Webb at Fri, 15 Oct 2004 14:22:44 -0700 said: Yes!! This would avoid the synchronization problem AND potentially put a better UI on AAB. Interesting how the same set of programs would cause such dramatically different experiences. A few months ago, I switched from Now-Up-to-Date Contact (NUDC) to iCal iSync. I waited this long because it took that long to get fed up with NUDC's isolation from the Address Book. The program caused grief with FAXing, multiple address books and other related issues. Since switching to iCal, iSync, Address Book, I have found NO problems with PowerMail, address synching or my Palm. All seems well indeed. Also, using free software always helps. :-) I do agree that AAB's interface could use some work, though. Somewhere in between AAB and NUDC would be perfect. -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] G4/AGP/400OS 10.3.5PowerMail 5.0.1 384 MB RAM 40+10 GB HDs
Re: Checking mail on waking
On Thursday, October 07, 2004, Tim Hodgson sent forth: (Sorry to start a new thread; I've deleted the original one.) Just another observation about the problem of PM trying to check for new mail before the system has reestablished the network connection on waking: my partner's Powerbook, on the same network as me, never has this issue with Entourage, so it seems there is some workaround. TimH I noticed an option in Mail Schedulings and Locations: Automatically access the network only if it is already available or after x hours/minutes/seconds Would that help? -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Attachments are concatenated!
On Tuesday, October 05, 2004, Lally Singh sent forth: Hi, when I receive attachments from my advisor, all the text-based files are concatenated into the body after his signature. Is there a way to have powermail do the right thing? -ls -- Evil will win because good is dumb. It's possible that he using UUencoding. I've seen a few mailers, either client or server, treat such encodings as inline attachments. -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
