Re: off topic
On Mon, Aug 13, 2001 at 05:48:57PM +0200, Wolfgang Pichler wrote: > Brett Randall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > On Mon, 13 Aug 2001 16:56:32 +0200, "Wolfgang Pichler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >said: > > > It's a little bit off topic, > > comp.security.firewalls > > comp.os.linux.networking Tell me, Wolfgang, which part of off topic did you misinterpret? > > > but does anywhere know which ports to open on my firewall so that > > > qmail works correctly. > > 25 outbound if you only want to send e-mail to external sites. 25 > > inbound as well if you have a mail server in a DMZ. > I have no mail server in DMZ Do you have a DMZ at all? How do you expect *any*one to correctly guess your setup? > > > At the moment I've opend dns,smtp and pop3 but when i activate the > > > firewall some messages can't be delivered (wasn't able to establish > > > an smtp connection), > > > Log entries? Kernel details? OS even? > OS: Linux 2.4.4-smp with iptables v 1.2.1a http://kernel.org/: The latest stable version of the Linux kernel is: 2.4.8 2001-08-11 04:13 UTC http://netfilter.samba.org/: May 07 2001 iptables 1.2.2 S... you're running a stock Linux distribution. You have all the necessary information for setting up your toy-firewall right at your fscking fingertips. Why are you asking your question in the *wrong forum*? > > > but when i try to telnet to the specified rcpt-server everything > > > works really fine. > > rcpt-server = really crazy parrot tarot-server? What do you mean, > > rcpt-server? Do you mean the remote MX? > with rcpt-server i mean the mean the highest prior MX server from > the dns server. Then why didn't you say so? And before you submit your question to news:comp.os.linux.networking, make sure to write a protocol of that session. > > > So what happend here ? (if i open the firewall for everything, then > > > the messages are leaving the queue) > > Nice... I think it's probably safer you leave the firewall open. > > Really. > iptables -A OUTPUT -p tcp --dport smtp -s myip -m state --state NEW,ESTABLISHED -j >ACCEPT Without the output of iptables -L, this is rubbish. WTF is "myip"? Why did you not read http://learn.to/edit_messages/ before writing in a technical forum? Why is your MUA setup totally broken? Nudlaug... -- Robin S. Socha http://socha.net Do not Cc: me. Ever.
Re: In need of opinion.
On Mon, Aug 13, 2001 at 12:27:55AM -0400, Yves Berthiaume wrote: > The goal is to achieve a webbased email system made of virtual user(not > local users)whose username and passwords reside in a mysql table. There is > already a user authentication scheme(php4/mysql) on the server(for webpage > display) since it's a private server. I'm running the setup described on http://mail.socha.net/about/ including MySQL support for vpopmail and ezmlm-idx. Works. > Also should I switch to an imap server? Absolutely. http://www.inter7.com/courierimap/ -- Robin S. Socha - Your Worst Network Nightmare(tm).
Re: How to copy outoging messages?
On Mon, Aug 13, 2001 at 10:01:24PM +0800, qmail wrote: > Can qmail manager each outgoing email? http://cr.yp.to/qmail/faq/admin.html#copies > if yes,then how to manager each email account that will send a copy of > message to his/her manager? Parse error. What exactly are you trying to achieve? -- Robin S. Socha - Your Worst Network Nightmare(tm). `In Germany, they are not referred to as network administrators. They prefer to be called "Sons Of The Third Reich".' (Kate: www.katewerk.com)
Re: Cannot find host with name... error
On Mon, Aug 13, 2001 at 12:48:11PM +0200, Sito Garcia wrote: > >From: "Robin S. Socha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >That is quite irrelevant. If anything, you should have provided the > >relevant part of qmail-showctl's output. > > I didn't know that programs exists!! OK, I've launched, and I > obtained a lot of information, betweend them: > > bouncehost: (Default.) Bounce host name is comarcal2. > (what's is bouncehost?? this me) This is explained in man 8 qmail-send. > defaultdomain: Default domain name is comarcal2. > defaulthost: Default host name is comarcal2. That is _not_ correct. Read man 8 qmail-inject. > I can't resolv what are these lines refered. Can anyone help me? Yes. TFM you should have R'ed. Also, you might want to take a look at Dave Sill's http://www.lifewithqmail.org/lwq.html#configuration Additionally, you may want to take a look at http://cr.yp.to/djbdns.html and read a bit about DNS. I would recommend the DNS-HOWTO, which is most likely already on your system, if it weren't BIND-ridden. Take a look at http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Net-HOWTO/ and http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Net-HOWTO/x413.html in particular. > >> Descargue GRATUITAMENTE MSN Explorer en http://explorer.msn.es/intl.asp > AARGHH!! Indeed, indeed. > >If that translates into "shoot every supporter of MSN repeatedly", I'm > >all for it. > > Not, not... I'm linux user and I'm trying to install a complete intranet in > my job (medium size hospital) on two linux servers. Good luck and check your private mail...
Re: Cannot find host with name... error
On Mon, Aug 13, 2001 at 11:37:15AM +0200, Sito Garcia wrote: > meling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sito Garcia wrote > >> ./config-fast comarcal2 (wich is my host name, obviously) Yes. And which part of INSTALL.ctl did you not understand? > >try ./config-fast yourhostname.yourdomain > >the config files for this is in the /var/qmail/control directory > As I explain in another mail, what I want is to install qmail ready > to serve mails belong users of my intranet through my Linux server > (actually, webmail). That is quite irrelevant. If anything, you should have provided the relevant part of qmail-showctl's output. > Descargue GRATUITAMENTE MSN Explorer en http://explorer.msn.es/intl.asp If that translates into "shoot every supporter of MSN repeatedly", I'm all for it.
Re: Online monitor
On Fri, Aug 10, 2001 at 08:16:44AM -0600, Charles Cazabon wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is there some tool to check online qmail log, like messages arriving > > and going out with output to browser? > > Although I don't use it myself, qmail-mrtg is supposed to be quite good > at basic reporting in realtime. You can find links to it at qmail.org, > I believe. It's indeed quite good. There is another version available from the Good People(tm) at inter7.com called http://www.inter7.com/qmailmrtg7/. Great. -- Robin S. Socha https://mail.socha.net/stats/qmail-mrtg/
Re: Re: Can I use qmail for this purpose? (newbie)
On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 07:43:43AM +, Jean-Christian Imbeault wrote: > >From: "Robin S. Socha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Are you sure you want to run a server? > I know what you are saying but uou have to start somewhere and learn > somehow On a production system? Did you bring a Ferrari to your driver's test? > >I beg to differ. OpenBSD is quite fine (DJB himself certainly does > >>not use it for no good reason, eh?) and it has everything you need > >>as ports and packages. > > No ports yet for 2.9. Even if this weren't wrong, you could use the 2.8(-current) ports. > >But realistically, > >http://qmail.org./top.html#paidsup is the best place to go IYAM. > > True. But since I will have to be responsible for the system I > should understand how to install it and configure it. How do you manage to reconcile "responsible" and "incompentent" in the same sentence? Although I run a DNS server, I'm certainly not responsible for it. I hope... -- Robin S. Socha - Your Worst Network Nightmare(tm). `In Germany, they are not referred to as network administrators. They prefer to be called "Sons Of The Third Reich".' (Kate: www.katewerk.com)
Re: Re: Can I use qmail for this purpose? (newbie)
On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 08:59:06AM +0200, Peter van Dijk wrote: > On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 06:52:29AM +, Jean-Christian Imbeault wrote: > > [...] the man pages didn't install themselves automagically when I > > compiled the source. (Yes, I don't even know how to install man pages). Are you sure you want to run a server? > The manpages do install themselves automatically. You just have to > tell man to check /var/qmail/man as well. (The way to do this is > OS-dependent). :s/OS/shell/g > > >Another great resource is 'Life With Qmail' at www.lifewithqmail.org. > > > > Got that already. But as I found out it's Linux-centric. I'll be > > installing on OpenBSD and worse for me is that I don't know > > OpenBSD well at all. Are you sure you want to run a server? > Even though it's Linux-centric, it has a lot of good stuff. In this case, it won't do any good at all. I mean, what we're talking about here is a) setting up qmail (like, make setup check), b) configure the system (see INSTALL and its friends), and c) set up _some_thing to run qmail. > You should consider using another OS if there is another OS you know > better, by the way... I beg to differ. OpenBSD is quite fine (DJB himself certainly does not use it for no good reason, eh?) and it has everything you need as ports and packages. But realistically, http://qmail.org./top.html#paidsup is the best place to go IYAM. -- Robin S. Socha - http://mail.socha.net/about/ `In Germany, they are not referred to as network administrators. They prefer to be called "Sons Of The Third Reich".' (Kate: www.katewerk.com)
Re: Selective Relaying/tcprules check SOLVED!
On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 03:58:01PM -0500, Scott Zielsdorf wrote: > I am STUPID. > xinetd.d/smtp config file: > I rebooted and now selective relaying is working like a champ. > Senior Technical Support Consultant Taking this four lines together, the first line makes a lot of sense... Who on earth gave you root? Hint: man kill
anger management courses
On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 04:10:13PM -0400, Jeff Palmer wrote: > > Can anyone say 'anger management course'? Anger mangama... Angre mgnma Nope. > Good lord man, Call me Robin. > Lighten up. You were a newbie at some point, as was EVERYONE else. > Nobody was born an SMTP god. Nor a unix god for that matter. I am a newbie. I know basically fsck all about qmail or anything else. I pale in comparison to all the Good People(tm) who've helped me here. Russ, Dave, Charles, Sam, Ken, Peter... and many more. Why did they help me? Because: > Granted, a lot of the emails to this list could be handled if the person > would just read the FAQ. But the simple truth is, it's not going to > happen. Well... it happened to me. And the remaining braindamage was cured by the abovementioned d00d3s and many others. Because I did read the FAQ, and I did post meaningful error messages. That's the one difference that made all the difference. What do we learn from this? You can be an asshole, but people will help you with a technical problem if you play by their rules. > P.S. I did indeed read the message about not CC'ing you.. Did I ever express my eternal gratefulness to Jason for adding killfile capabilities to tmda? THANK YOU, JASON! reply-to set. -- Robin S. Socha - Your Worst Network Nightmare(tm). `In Germany, they are not referred to as network administrators. They prefer to be called "Sons Of The Third Reich".' (Kate: www.katewerk.com)
Re: RES: Message without Subject and From!!!
On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 04:15:55PM -0300, Daniel Abad wrote: > Charles Cazabon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Daniel Abad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Look, dude, I reformatted your message to give it a minimum amount of meaning. Do not ever *think* about hitting reply before you've fully read and understood http://learn.to/edit_messages/ > > > When a send a message to my virtual user, I check it from telnet > > > and it's without subject and from!! What should I do?? > > Compose your message differently. The "From:" and "Subject:" > > fields in the message header are completely optional. > Ok, I telnet at 25 and compose a message, with mail from: , rcpt to: > anda data (.) . Yeah. So? What does the message look like in its original form then? > > This isn't a qmail issue. See the documentation for your MUA for > > further details. > When I received this from my Outlook or Webmail, the message is > empty! Only the time appears! MUA is Mail User Agent. The crap you're sending your messages with is an MUA. Got it? And if no appropriate help is available for Outlook, complain to the wankers in Redmond who *SOLD* you this shit. This is a technical list for a Unix MTA, ok? Oh yeah... Apart from the fact that I don't speak Portuñol (or even intend to learn it), this is crap, too: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" -- Robin S. Socha - Do not send me Cc:s. Ever.
Re: Sublist
On Fri, Jul 27, 2001 at 10:31:15AM -0400, Dave 'Duke of URL' Weiner wrote: > And before you blast me for using Windows instead of, say Linux, > there are a number of applications that I need to use on a daily > basis to run my business effectively and effeciently, that still > don't have the features I need on Linux. We were talking of MUAs (on a mailing list for an MTA, which sucks...). mutt and Gnus work under Windows. And just in case you're wondering why Outlook Express is not the answer but the question (the answer to which is, of course, "hell, no!"), here's a box of clues for you: http://my.gnus.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=FAQ&file=index&myfaq=yes&id_cat=3&categories=Why+Gnus%3F#1 Can we bury this thread *now*?
Re: Sublist (Was: Virus-infected listmembers)
On Fri, Jul 27, 2001 at 05:58:02PM +1000, Jon Booth wrote: > On Fri, 27 Jul 2001, Robin S. Socha wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 26, 2001 at 09:54:53PM -0400, Steve Reed wrote: > > > I think it would be very considerate of the list members if > > > whoever runs this mailing list would PLEASE wake up and ban the > > > living daylights out of Wilson and his barrage of viruses. > > > > What for? Wilson isn't the problem. The problem is that we're not > > in 92 anymore. What I'd like to see is a sublist that drops > > anything that isn't ASCII only and also everything that is sent > > with Windos MUAs. > Wilson most definitely is the problem Wilson isn't the problem. Windows is. Outlook is. > How can it be still sending virii for over 24 hours? Because the list owner seems not to take responsibility for losers. While that in itself is an honourable approach, it causes grief and anguish for the people not using Windows on this list. > Wilson is a goon Wilson is a Windows user. That is the problem. Unless you can prove beyond reasonable doubt how one could re-create the software using $UNIX. And can we now please let this thread die?
Sublist (Was: Virus-infected listmembers)
On Thu, Jul 26, 2001 at 09:54:53PM -0400, Steve Reed wrote: > I think it would be very considerate of the list members if > whoever runs this mailing list would PLEASE wake up and ban the > living daylights out of Wilson and his barrage of viruses. What for? Wilson isn't the problem. The problem is that we're not in 92 anymore. What I'd like to see is a sublist that drops anything that isn't ASCII only and also everything that is sent with Windos MUAs. For the fun of it, I just killed everything that said Outlook (Express), Eudora, Pegasus and Webmail for the last month. Trust me, the list suddenly became good. Dear [EMAIL PROTECTED], could we have a sublist? I'm sure a lot of people would host it. I would. Prettyplease?
Re: ezmlm-make -+ -x? (Was: bonussouzaramos)]
On Thu, Jul 26, 2001 at 11:07:06AM -0500, Jeremy Suo-Anttila wrote: > NO i am not a fucking retard Yes, you are: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) You are an integral part of the problem. -- Robin S. Socha - Your Worst Network Nightmare(tm). `In Germany, they are not referred to as network administrators. They prefer to be called "Sons Of The Third Reich".' (Kate: www.katewerk.com)
Re: IEEEEEEEEEEE STOP THE INSANITY (was Re: CDRD085)
On Thu, Jul 26, 2001 at 11:04:08AM -0500, Jason Nunnelley wrote: > On Wed, Jul 25, 2001 at 06:08:53PM -0600, Mike Hodson said > > > Can't we get a list admin to block this guy? This is getting way > > > out of control. > > > > > I couldn't agree more.. Someone. Anyone Set a > > filter.... Please. On Dan's server? Stupid. -- Robin S. Socha - Your Worst Network Nightmare(tm). `In Germany, they are not referred to as network administrators. They prefer to be called "Sons Of The Third Reich".' (Kate: www.katewerk.com)
Re: help setting up virus scanner
On Thu, Jul 26, 2001 at 11:45:21AM -0400, Gary MacKay wrote: > Ok, now I'm really frustrated and have wasted way too much time. I tried > the badmailfrom option to stop these messages, that didn't work because > of not checking headers, from, whatever. I tried to install AmAvis, that > installed without errors, (what a pain to install), but I get "can not > allocate memory" type errors in my smtpd/current file. Your system is foobar. > 2001-07-26 11:30:28.819170500 /usr/bin/suidperl: error while loading > shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot load shared object file: Cannot > allocate memory ldd `which suidperl` > It is a RedHat 7.1 box, brand new setup, and updated. You fscked up your update, brother. man ld.config is your friend. -- Robin S. Socha - Your Worst Network Nightmare(tm). `In Germany, they are not referred to as network administrators. They prefer to be called "Sons Of The Third Reich".' (Kate: www.katewerk.com)
ezmlm-make -+ -x? (Was: bonussouzaramos)
On Wed, Jul 25, 2001 at 04:05:36PM -0300, Wilson wrote: > Hi! How are you? Pretty good, thank you. Okay, so Dan is God. That's fine. But I wonder if running ezmlm-idx would not be beneficial to the list. No HTML, no v-cards, no Windows crap. *sigh* Please, please, please?
Re: Outgoing mail
On Wed, Jul 25, 2001 at 05:09:56PM +0200, David Du SERRE-TELMON wrote: > How can I control outgoing mails ? > > Possible application : > > - Add a signature for all mails Braindamaged idea. Cf. the archives of this list. > - Make a backup of all outgoing mails from a specific account FAQ > - Make restrictions with from @ Huh? > And can I check all ingoing mails before than messages go into > mailboxs ? Yes.
Re: what can be done about 'in order to have your advice...'
On Wed, Jul 25, 2001 at 09:33:35AM +0200, Paulo Jan wrote: > Seems to me that the main "feature" of this virus isn't the text, but > the fact that the attachments that it sends always have two extensions: > ".xls.bat", ".doc.lnk" and so on. This way, it tricks Windows lusers who > have the "hide extensions" option turned on into clicking on them. You got something backwards there. The problem isn't the users. The problem is the operating system and its vendor who stubbornly refuses to distribute a systems that offers even minimum security. In short: if you use Windows, you are an idiot - but you wouldn't have to be an idiot with data loss or an idiot being part of a DDoS attack (anyone seen any in the wild, really? cf. http://www.fefe.de/ddos.html) if it weren't for that marketing department turned software giant. N.B., anyone tried MS's solution to the problem (i.e. the Office patch)? It basically renders Outlook useless. Eh. Wait. Make that "even more useless". Good work. > So you could write a script to look at the name of the attachments > and look for the ones that follow that pattern. Boring. "I see no reason why virus authors, once identified, should be allowed to live.": http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/zd/20010724/tc/death_to_virus_writers__1.html > (Aside, of course, of checking out the patches that antivirus vendors > must be putting out...) Ah yes, our friends and saviours from the other end of the gutter. Interesting to let the last 10 or so years pass by and wonder - and I mean *really* wonder - how anyone could be so unbelievably stupid to run software that has never worked *and* pay additional money to a bunch of hippies investing their time and (limited) programming skills into ways to make money by selling hacks and workarounds for a B.A.D. OS instead of improving this OS. Ooops. Closed source. Embrace and anally rape. Pity. Anyway, if I were a virus vendor, I'd sacrifice virgins by the dozen hoping that Microsoft never, ever hires competent programmers. Reply-to set. WTF has this virus crap got to do on this list? qmail-scanner lists exists and your problem has nothing to do with Unix.
Re: Can't send mail , Mail blocked
On Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 02:44:35PM +0100, james wrote: > Also, can someone tell me how to stop queering the ORBS database ? vim /service/smtp/run and remove the offending line, then restart smtp.
Re: Re: SMTP Auth Patch Question
On Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 04:15:49AM -0400, alexus wrote: Dear alexus, > let me just end my lines with that even though looks like inter7 is > bunch of i'm sure they are still a good people:) Let me begin my assessment of your ad hominem attack with an exec summary: you suck. Having proven over an extended period of time that your are an incompetent luser with the technical expertise of an amoeba, you are now publicly attacking members of a company that offers a whole host of free software (very good software at that). Now, apart from the fact that you do not leave the impression of being able to assess inter7's technical expertise due to the fact that your technical understanding does not extend beyond clicking on setup.exe, I have also yet to see someone using their MUA in the way you do and yet be able to competently run a mail server. It may come as a surprise to you, but this is not the correct place to discuss your intellectual shortcomings, your very own non-qmail related technical problems (like, not wasting everyone's bandwidth (for which some people have to pay, you know?) with your luser software) or your personal problems with some help-desk staff somewhere on this planet. And while we're at it: 3rd party patches, MySQL and all of inter7's software do not belong here, either. "Not belong" as in "go read the instructions on cr.yp.to and then unsubscribe or - preferably - die". -- Robin S. Socha - Your Worst Network Nightmare(tm). `In Germany, they are not referred to as network administrators. They prefer to be called "Sons Of The Third Reich".' (Kate: www.katewerk.com)
How to piss people off easily (Was: How to create dynamic users for IMAP Email services) Reply-To: robin@socha.net
On Sat, Jul 21, 2001 at 12:09:43PM +0530, KK wrote: > Can I create dynamic system users using the command "useradd" from > inside a perl script/java servlet which need not run as "root"? I > suppose that only "root" has the privilege to create system users. > Is there a way around this? I presume that your are well aware of the fact that this has nothing to do whatsoever with qmail. If you are too incompetent to use a search engine, why are you running a mail server? RTFM: man 5 sudoers: Cmnd_Alias USERADD=/sbin/useradd www ALL=NOPASSWD: USERADD > Any suggestions/help is appreciated. http://learn.to/edit_messages/ - before your EVER submit mail to a technical mailing list again. -- Robin S. Socha - Your Worst Network Nightmare(tm). `In Germany, they are not referred to as network administrators. They prefer to be called "Sons Of The Third Reich".' (Kate: www.katewerk.com)
Re: anti-virus strategies
begin Michel Rondeau's <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> LOVELETTERFORYOU.txt.vbs: > We're running Mandrake 8.0 with qmail as an email server for a bunch > of 2000 and 9x machines. I was wondering what you people would > recommend anti-virus wise? fdisk. And then the 2.9 servicepack to secure the machines. That will also give you time to read man 1 hostname and the archives for these lists. end and stuff...
Re: How to create dynamic users for IMAP Email services
* Greg White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010719 12:58]: > On Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 09:53:23PM +0530, KK wrote: > > 1. How do I create dynamic system users (and assign them passwords) > > and the mail directories within the users home directories from > > inside an email-client application, which uses the IMAP protocol to > > access emails (just like it is done on hotmail.com or any other > > web-based email systems)? > > Let me see if I understand this correctly -- you want to create mail > accounts from within an MUA? If that's what you're asking, it cannot be > done, and if it could I would run* as from from qmail as humanly > possible. Even Microsoft does not have this "feature". If this is not > what you're asking, please restate the nature of the problem. Eh. You're in Unixland, not in Redmon. Sure it could be done. man procmail maildrop if you're into deviant sexual practices. Hmmm... come to think of it, man dotqmail would even do. Wicked.
Re: How to create dynamic users for IMAP Email services
* KK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010719 11:39]: Turn off HTML and wrap your lines properly. Your message looks like shit and is 4x too big. > I am a new entrant to the "qmail" world and have recently installed > the qmail_1.03 server on a Red Hat Linux 6.0. I have also istalled the > UW-imap server with Maildir support. So you're using an outdated and insecure OS along with the IMAP server from hell. Good luck. > 1. How do I create dynamic system users (and assign them passwords) > and the mail directories within the users home directories from inside > an email-client application, which uses the IMAP protocol to access > emails (just like it is done on hotmail.com or any other web-based > email systems)? Not at all. Hotmail and similar sites uses CGI scripts to create the account. Check http://www.inter7.com/vqregister/ > 2. Is the creation of system users avoidable for generating email > addresses? Check http://www.inter7.com/vpopmail/ God bless inter7.com.
Re: how can I unsubscri...
* Charles Cazabon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010711 12:04]: > I'm just sick of "how do I unsubscribe?" questions on ezmlm lists. It sometimes amazes me how even idiot-proof software always finds a bigger idiot. I've got roughly 16k of procmail recipes for stripping "This is the k3w1 100z3r L!$t, to unsub send mail to ..." banners from luser lists - quite annoying. I wonder, though, why this list isn't running ezmlm-idx (he he...) or at least extended headers. OTOH, 99% of unsuscription request come from $LAMER_MUA lusers. Ah... the joys of luser friendly software... "headers? who needs stinking headers? let's have some features instead... active-X anyone? some viruses? or some backdoor to go with that, dear paying customer?". Sometimes, I wonder what this world would look like if someone had nuked Redmond in '85... *sigh* EoT, please?
Re: how can I unsubscri...
* Paul Kristensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010711 11:49]: > IF PEOPLE KNEW THE ANSWER THEY WOULD NOT ASK THE QUESTION ! STANDARDIZED BONEHEAD REPLY FORM I took exception to your recent ___ post to __. (conference) _X_ email It was (check all that apply): _X_ lame. _X_ stupid. _X_ boring. _X_ much longer than any worthwhile thought of which you may be capable. Your attention is drawn to the fact that: _X_ what you posted/said has been done before. (Mark only if above checked) ___ Not only that, it was also done better the last time. ___ your post/mail was a pathetic imitation of _. (NOTES personality) ___ your post/mail was intended to be email/a post. ___ your post was obviously Moderator-bait. ___ your post referred to the conference as a Board, BBoard, BBS, newsgroup or Notesfile. ___ your post contained commercial advertising. THE FINE FOR THIS IS $20. Please remit immediately to: Digital Equipment Corp. Network Security & Standards Patrol 146 Main St. Maynard, MA 01754 or your posting privileges will be canceled. ___ your post/letter contained numerous spelling errors. (Mark only if above checked) ___ you deliberately misspelled 4 letter Anglo-Saxon words to slither the note past the moderators. ___ your post/letter contained "y"s substituted for random vowels. (Mark only if above checked) ___ which made it unintelligible. ___ your post/letter contained "q"s substituted for random "k"s, "c"s or "ck"s ___ you spell-checked but it obviously substituted incorrect word(s) with a similar sound/spelling for your misspelled word(s) rather than the correct spelling. ___ Feeble attempt at Dan Quayle humor. ___ your post/letter contained multiple grammatical errors. ___ your post/letter served no purpose other than correct spelling/grammatical errors of another note/letter. _X_ YOUR POST CONTAINED EXCESSIVE CAPITALIZATION AND/OR PUNCTUATION! _X_ your post was a Garbage Note. (Mark only if above checked) ___ 100% USDA _X_ CRAP (fancy CRAP, FREEWARE, Copyright (c) Northern Spy Software) ___ CRAP (just plain CRAP) ___ (picture of trash can) ___ all of the above. ___ your note was a "snarf." (Mark only if above checked) ___ and you got a number generally not considered "snarfable." (Mark only if above checked) ___ because you were too slow and missed by one. ___ you deliberately created replies solely to get a "snarf" number. (Mark only if above checked) ___ you still were too slow to get a "snarf"! ___ these replies contain more useful content than most of your other notes. (Mark only if above checked) ___ ...which is saying quite a bit since you deleted these replies. _X_ you created a new topic that should have been a reply to another note. (Mark only if above checked) _X_ Deliberately. _X_ You don't know the difference between "Write" and "Reply." _X_ You were too lazy to look for the existing note. (Mark only if above checked) ___ and you asked the moderators to find the note and move it there for you. ___ you created a new topic designed to generate replies and set it /NOWRITE. (Mark only if above checked) ___ you repeatedly set it /NOWRITE, after the moderators set it /WRITE. ___ you set your note /HIDDEN simply to arouse the curiosity of other noters. ___ 'Hit and Run' noting, you deleted your note after it generated several replies (Mark only if above checked) ___ ...which was a good thing because you really looked like a fool. ___ you created a new note and moved it to the 'hole' to make the replies look foolish. ___ you quoted an article/letter in followup and added no new text. ___ you quoted an article in followup and only added the line "Me, too!!!" _X_ you quoted an article/letter in followup and only added _1_ lines of text. ___ you predicted the "Imminent Death of the Net[tm]." (Mark only if above checked) ___ Without adding " at 11." ___ you asked for replies via email because you "don't read this group." _X_ you flamed someone who has been around far longer than you. _X_ you flamed someone who is far more intelligent and witty than you. ___ your lines are 80 columns wide or wider. ___ you forgot which conference this was. _X_ you have a lame login name. _X_ your machine has a stupid name. ___ your attempt at a Notes/Mail Personal Name fell flat. (Mark only if above checked) ___ Painfully. ___ your name signed at the end contains si
Re: 39,696 emails later...
* Deslions Nicolas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010711 03:56]: > grrr i think you should consider plain text instead of html... this is > boring... http://learn.to/edit_messages/ - and do not EVER Cc: me. You're wasting bandwidth for no apparent reason. Just... don't. Reply-to set to me, this is 100% OT here.
Re: EZMLM+idx-0.53 on Solaris8 - bug during compilation
* Piotr Kasztelowicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010709 09:37]: > > I have apply to compile ezmlm-0.53 + idx-0.40 with > and such error has been reported 1. You are on the wrong list. Consult http://ezmlm.org/ 2. In the meantime, check this: http://untroubled.org/ezmlm-browse/
Re: FYI: Windows is better
* Mark Douglas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010705 14:52]: Ok. So we have: * 12 lines of signature * full quote (do you read from bottom to top? No? THEN WHY THE FUCK DO YOU NOT SET UP YOUR TRASHTOY CORRECTLY?) * no quote string * no attribution line * HTML to bloat your crap mail even more * fucked up line width And all of this is brought to you by: X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) > Excellent analogy!! I love it! It's bullshit. And this is a technical mailing list. Your emotions are of no interest whatsoever. Go hug a tree, luser. >> Microsoft is like a little convertable sexy car, good for running to >> the store to buy a pack of cigarette. But if you decide to haul 18 >> tons of lumber, it is not the right vehicle. Bullshit. It's neither convertible (unless you'd like to draw an analogy between your top opening at 125mph and a BSOD) nor sexy. It's technically outdated, it's insecure, and it's made to be used by idiots. If you look up "sexy convertible" in a dictionary, you'll never find something a) made by idiots b) for idiots c) by an American company. >> As such, how many average people use 18 ton trucks? And as such how >> much work is done by the trucking (or transportation) industry? The internet was neither invented by Gill Bates, nor by Al Gore. *WE* run it, and we don't use Windows. Ever. If you find using MacOS or $UNIX on your desktop too much of an intellectual challenge, please don't use technical mailing lists. And could you girls please take your lamer talk somewhere else? Like news:comp.os.advocacy? Oh. And DO NOT FUCKING Cc: ME.
Re: FYI: Windows is better
* Tupshin Harper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010704 15:58]: > > What is the relevancy of this to this list? It sharply reminds us why we don't run Windows. Ever seen a woman go "u, yes, I love it when you're stupid... you're such a tool..."? Don't think so. That's why score a lot while those tosser stay, well, tossers... Eh, Charles, care for an inflatable Win2k sheep?
Re: TRANSLATE TO ENGLISH
* ABDULKAREEM KASEREKA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010703 16:24]: > CHER MONSIEUR, Eh. Sexual harrassment. USD 6m waiting for me. C007!!!1 Anyway, darling, your request for steamed frog avec Cous-Cous has been taken. You'll be served a couple of PDF files shortly. You don't mind them coming in 1k slices, do you?
Re: a wee rant
* John Hogan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010703 13:51]: > also, there are still security issues with child webs in linux/apache > environments - all such security issues can be resolved in an m$ iis > environment (with application of the current corrections, patches, > fixes and updates Ahhh... you're talking about the same NT/W2k and MIIS that I know? The *glorious* piece of software made by the sheepshaggers in Redmond? That's good. If you know a reliable source for "current corrections, patches, fixes and updates" that will keep this security nightmare even remotely secure for more than 15s, I know many, many people who will love you. Loads. In the meantime: This is, like, not the right place to discuss this. But you might try the BIND ML (people there know a lot about security and patches, too) or simply the latest Toys'R'Us.
Re: I can't install vmailmgr on my RH 7.1 Professional - Box
* Webmaster Sports-wear.de <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010630 13:19]: I remember times in which the title "postmaster", sported by something like you, would have led to charges on account of attempted manslaughter. "Your honour, I was merely trying to get some technical problems solved, and then there was this Überluser from Germany... and I almost died laughing". > I got this Output when I ran the make command. A couple of notes... 1. You are on the wrong list. 2. You did not consult the archive for the right list. 3. RH and "Professional" don't belong into the same sentence unless there is a "but not" in between. 4. http://qmail.org/ lists several companies that offer professional support. You might also consider looking for The Other Kind(tm) of professional help. 5. Du kannst Dir Deine beschissenen deutschen Fehlermeldungen irgendwohin schieben, wo es dunkel ist - das ist eine englischsprachige Liste. 6. While trying to parse your MIME attachment (HTML produced by Word I presume), tidy crashed due to memory overcommitment. In short: DO NOT USE SOFTWARE YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND. In particular: get a mail client that works - but before that, get a clue about what you're trying to achieve. Und jetzt: [x] geh' weg! -- "nimm Dein Schaf und fick es halt mal richtig durch; oder geh kalt duschen bevor Du Deine Scheisse in die Newgruppen loslässt. Bevor Du keinen Kurs in Sozialverhalten belegt hast, werde ich keinen Kurs in deutscher Rechtschreibung belegen, warum auch, Du Sozialanalphabet." Bernd Stahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Peter from the Dike and Security
* peter green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010627 08:32]: > (pcg@pcg2) ~> rot13 > bash: rot13: command not found (robin@mail1):(~)$ man caesar | head -n4 CAESAR(6) OpenBSD Reference Manual CAESAR(6) NAME caesar - decrypt caesar cyphers
Re: GHOSTS AND ASSHOLES
* Bill Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010622 13:22]: > Russell Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > >Then don't ask a public mailing list for help. Instead, go to one of > >the suppliers of commercial support. How to know which is reliable? > >Watch this mailing list, and see who's been around longest (has the > >most established reputation to protect), and who supplies the most > >clueful answers. I'd buy your suport every day, Russel. And I mean it. > Well put. Very much in the spirit of user supported software... May I kindly ask you to, like, get a life? Russel offers commercial support. He's contributing here *A LOT*. You, on the other hand, are a whining luser. > Russ, I'm not saying they shouldn't give us the information needed to > help them. I'm just of the opinion we shouldn't jump down every > newbie's throat just because they are a little over cautious. What dictionary did you look cautious up in? Or are you referring to the OP's overly cautious use of the recommended reading aka FAQ? > Put yourself in their shoes. Eh. That's what alt.rec.suicide is for. > Imagine walking up to an Automated Teller Machine and seeing a guy, > presumably a maintenance worker, adjusting the electronics. He says, > "The card reader and pad aren't working. Just give me your card and > PIN number and I'll swipe it back here." , | Port State Service | 21/tcp openftp | 22/tcp openssh | 23/tcp opentelnet | 25/tcp opensmtp | 79/tcp openfinger | 80/tcp openhttp | 111/tcpfilteredsunrpc | 199/tcpopensmux | 443/tcpopenhttps | 512/tcpopenexec | 513/tcpopenlogin | 514/tcpopenshell | 515/tcpopenprinter | 3306/tcp openmysql | | TCP Sequence Prediction: Class=random positive increments | Difficulty=74755 (Worthy challenge) | Remote operating system guess: BSDI BSD/OS 3.0-3.1 (or possibly MacOS, NetBSD) ` Would you like me to tell you the programs and version numbers to go along with that, too, Sir? > Would YOU hand over your card? https://mail.socha.net/about/ - happy cracking, luser. Do you need any help running nmap? > All he wants to do it help you, right? Since putting them down is a non-op, yes. > Think about it... Talking to yourself a lot, eh?
Re: GHOSTS AND ASSHOLES
* Bill Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010622 13:13]: > Your philosophy says, if you're not technically knowledgeable, you > have no business trying to learn how to use a mail server. How the > heck do you become technically knowledgeable then? http://cr.yp.to/qmail.html And just for the record: , | http://cr.yp.to/lists.html | Please read FAQ, PIC.*, and the other documentation in the | qmail package before sending your question to the qmail mailing list. ` Not to mention http://qmail.org, as well as Dave's, Adam's and a lot of other people's contributed documentation. Which part of "there are only very, very few things not already explained about qmail out there" did you not understand?
Re: The Loss of Email Ghost
* Roland Mathis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010621 02:55]: > We have a new ghost in our company. It's name is "Loss of Email". We > have qmail running since about 3 months on our mail server. Every now > and then people are complaining that they haven't received this and > that important mail. You are making a couple of wrong assumptions to start with. 1. Never refer to /them/ as "people". Rule of thumb: if male, "luser" is the bare minimum, "dead meat" will also do; if female, the proper categorization depends on a couple of factors, such as martial status, gullibility and the willingness to be your "intern". 2. Service is a privilege, not a right. If your lusers are complaining, you need a better LART. 3. If it isn't *your* mail, it is not important. > I usually make a test and it works, but the ghost remains. Question your lusers more thoroughly. And I mean /thorough/. Trial by combat or fire will quickly lead to more truthful error reports. Make sure not to spill any blood over your servers. > Now, I already installed ISOQLOG, to analyze logs. But I still cannot > see WHO sent mail TO WHO and WHO receives mail FROM WHOM. Has anybody > an idea how I could filter this information from the log files? Yes, but the degree of incompetence you've already displayed by not giving us any idea of your network environment, your operating system, and the exect setup you're running (including, most importantly, the logging tool) suggests that you wouldn't understand it. > Another idea I had is this: Every time qmail-send sends a mail it > would store a copy of it somewhere. How could I do this? By reading the FAQ. Ahhh... wait - you've done that already, right? I mean, you wouldn't submit an utterly braindamaged question to a public mailing list if you hadn't made very sure in advance that it's not covered by the FAQ? http://cr.yp.to/qmail/faq/admin.html#copies > Thanks for any advice! 42
Re: IMAP benchmarks
Thanks for the pointer.
Re: POP/IMAP server - more NEWBIE
* Technology Strategic Planning writes: > "Nick (Keith) Fish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Stephen Froehlich wrote: Do you read your mail from bottom to top? If not, why do you start your reply on top of the original mail? >>> In the near future, I'll need to allow encrypted remote access. >>> (Encrypted only.) I have a few, relatively trusted users. How >>> would you go about meeting those requirements? >> >> Run two copies of tcpserver under supervise (well, four if you want >> both POP and IMAP), one not encrypted and available to your local >> network as specified in tcpserver's rules files, and the other >> encrypted and available to anyone. [...] > For one, how good is the IMAP encryption? That depends on your implementation. > Is it just preventing casual browsing, serious private attempts, That depends on your implementation. > or people with supercomputers? Which interest should they have in your private mail? > How about VPN solutions? That depends on your implementation. > Is there a decent Linux server for MS's VPN? How do you want to write something decent for something not decent? There are several VPN implementations (FreeS/WAN works well), but if you're looking into VPN solutions, you'd better take a close look at OpenBSD. > I have an NT server (with scads of processing power), but am afraid to > expose it to the internet in any way, shape, or form. MS says it's secure. Just do it. They wouldn't *sell* anything that has bugs, right? > The mail server will be inside of a DMZ once I get things up and > running fully - which is a much better place to do this from. If you intend to run MS Exchange, it won't matter much. > How about the PGP based IP tunneling? Any experiences or impressions? It works. But why would you want to do it if there are other options? > Is this overkill? No. Underkill. > Should I be concerned if we have to carry it on a laptop across > borders? That depends on the border. -- Robin S. Socha - Your Worst Network Nightmare(tm). `In Germany, they are not referred to as network administrators. They prefer to be called "Sons Of The Third Reich".' (Kate: www.katewerk.com)
Re: Compile problems with compilation of daemontools-0.70 on RH 7.1
* Henning Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010524 14:45]: > On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 02:12:23PM -0400, Ed Weinberg wrote: > > I am havingompile problems compiling daemontools-0.70 on RH 7.1. I have >· > This is a FAQ. With Linux Kernel 2.4 an inlcude path is broken. Search teh > archives for time.h . > Why the hell did they need to change include pathes?! man (5) clusterfuck, look for "Mongolian". Ro"OpenBSD 2.9-stable"bin
Re: QMail configuration problem
* Ed Weinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "Fares Gianluca" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAaCAJIAEggifQ29u > What is all of this? My mail program cannot read it, and I will not > try to launch it. http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/smime-charter.html > smime.p7m? http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&safe=off&q=smime.p7m&btnG=Google-Suche&meta= -- Robin S. Socha - Your Worst Network Nightmare(tm). `In Germany, they are not referred to as network administrators. They prefer to be called "Sons Of The Third Reich".' (Kate: www.katewerk.com)
Re: Using fetchmail with qmail
* Alexandre Goncalves Jacaranda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > How can I use fetchmail program with qmail ? http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Qmail+MH-5.html found within < 10s at http://www.google.de/search?q=fetchmail+qmail+howto&hl=de&safe=off -- Robin S. Socha - Your Worst Network Nightmare(tm). `In Germany, they are not referred to as network administrators. They prefer to be called "Sons Of The Third Reich".' (Kate: www.katewerk.com)
Re: Qmail can't receive special user's mail
* Gavin McCord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 2001.05.17 07:24 liu zhi wrote: >> But I can only read mail use vi.Who can tell me a MUA under unix >> which support Maildir format.Thanks > mutt, balsa Gnus http://gnus.org/ (as a mailsurce or native with Paul Jarc's nnmaildir.el) and pine http://dev/null if patched. Gnus' support is best IYAM. -- Robin S. Socha - Your Worst Network Nightmare(tm). `In Germany, they are not referred to as network administrators. They prefer to be called "Sons Of The Third Reich".' (Kate: www.katewerk.com)
footers in mailinglists (was: Unsubsribing from the mailinglist)
* Ruprecht Helms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If the listmaster is reading this mail. I suggest that a footer with a > unsubscribe note will automaticly added to each mail. 1. The unsubscription instructions are on the website. 2. The unsubscription instructions are sent to you upon subscription. 3. The unsubscription instructions can be retrieved by sending mail to #l#[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your suggesetion adds nothing but unnecessary bloat while not providing any meaningful (i.e. new) information for somebody too fucking stupid to read and understand even the simplest instructions. Mind you, most of these morons try to unsub an address they no longer use and cannot see the headers because their technologically advanded, feature-rich and usually American software prevents them from doing that. Adding #l#[EMAIL PROTECTED] will buy you exactly *nothing*. archive##[EMAIL PROTECTED] just might help if it worked. Also, stock ezmlm does not provide for a trailer. Get a life.l -- Robin S. Socha - Your Worst Network Nightmare(tm). `In Germany, they are not referred to as network administrators. They prefer to be called "Sons Of The Third Reich".' (Kate: www.katewerk.com)
Re: OT - Problems with daemontools 0.70
* Michael Geier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Just so that everyone can see what a pathetic individual Felix is, here > is his lovely retort to my email. I especially love his methodology > for proving his superiority through the use of 4-letter words: Michael, although Felix' choice of words is debatable (he's getting soft it seems), forwarding private messages to mailing lists is, well, rock bottom. But let's stick with the facts. | People who are as stupid as you have no business installing software | at all. That is correct. Your problem could have been solved by searching the archives. Read: ,[ http://cr.yp.to/lists.html ] | Please read FAQ, PIC.*, and the other documentation in the qmail package | before sending your question to the qmail mailing list. ` | You don't have a workstation. You have a broken Windoze infested PC | with tons of crapware on it. Nothing could be farther from a | "workstation". Correct. | I understood what you meant. And I saw that your description was so | wrong that you should not be handling a computer. Leave that to | people with a brain. And correct again. So tell me, Michael, did you publish a private conversation to prove that you're clueless or that you are ignorant? Either way, you were quite suckcessful. Please go away. -- Robin S. Socha - Your Worst Network Nightmare(tm). `In Germany, they are not referred to as network administrators. They prefer to be called "Sons Of The Third Reich".' (Kate: www.katewerk.com)
Re: Trouble with date
* Andrey Shirshov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > why in my messages date is not rigth? Because your software sucks. > ... with SMTP; 15 May 2001 06:57:47 - date is 10:54!!! No, it isn't. ,[ http://www-archive.ornl.gov:8000/ ] | Mailing List Archive Search Results | | Documents 1 to 10 of 566 documents containing: /mailing-lists/qmail/ in U regions |And time And not And correct `---- -- Robin S. Socha - Your Worst Network Nightmare(tm). `In Germany, they are not referred to as network administrators. They prefer to be called "Sons Of The Third Reich".' (Kate: www.katewerk.com)
Re: Handling high volume lists
* Bruno Wolff III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 10:18:45AM +0200, "Robin S. Socha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [dupes] > Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see a Mail-Followup-To header in your > message. Are people supposed to guess whether or not you are on the > list or whether or not you want a cc header listing your address so > that your mail filter can handle the message differently. Everyone here is on this list unless otherwise stated. Noone therefore wants Cc:s unless otherwise stated. How long have you been in a technical environment? > Since you made a point about not wanting cc's I manually removed it > from this message. You are one hell of a luser. ## "lists" adds a list of mailing lists addresses ## so mutt knows about these for showing them in the folder indes ## and to allow replying to them with the command "list-reply". lists qmail -- Robin S. Socha - Your Worst Network Nightmare(tm). `In Germany, they are not referred to as network administrators. They prefer to be called "Sons Of The Third Reich".' (Kate: www.katewerk.com)
Re: OT - Problems with daemontools 0.70
* Peter van Dijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010514 13:36]: > On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 07:28:32PM +0200, Frank Tegtmeyer wrote: > > "Michael Geier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > tai64nlocal.c:55: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type > > > > Time to include it in the sig? > > Time for a release that fixes it. Just install the 2.9 bugfix set... }:->
Handling high volume lists (was: Newbies vs. arrogant experts)
of taking some action, isn't it? After all, your post was brought to us via softmail written by the same k3wl D00d3 who invented the Internet (no, not Al "Treehugger" Gore, but the Great Chairman Gill Bates himself), so it *has* to be okay, eh? Not. Footnotes: [1] The following recipe nukes all mail with a text/quote ratio of 1:2 and more (weighted scoring *rules*): :0 Bh * 20^1 ^> * -10^1 ^[^>] /dev/null -- Robin S. Socha <http://my.gnus.org/users/robin/> http://my.gnus.org/ - To boldly frobnicate what no newbie has grokked before.
Re: config for stand-alone box
* john gennard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010511 15:25]: > I connect to an ISP by dialling with a modem and have just two user > accounts. So you need serialmail. Get and install it. There are many hints on how to do this in this list's archive. > I've never really understood the concept of a FQDN and so > can't with confidence create a /var/qmail/control file. Your box has a name, consisting of your domain (which you don't have) and its local hostname. You can register a domain for a dial-up system at dyndns.org or something. > Hypothetically, my ISP is heaven.com, I call my box eden and have > users adam and eve, what is my FQDN? (I log in as say garden - so > outsiders email me as [EMAIL PROTECTED]). That is irrelevant. You just want your From address to be correct. > I fail to understand exactly what part alias plays in the setup. At a > minimum, I should create three - root, postmaster and mailer-daemon, > but do I need any for my user accounts and why? Aliases are email addresses without local users. Mail to root is internally forwarded to a user you put in ~alias/.qmail-root, for example. > With the simple setup I have should I bother with the dot-forward, > daemontools and fastforward packages? Depends on where you come from and where you want to go. dot-forward and fastforward should be unnecessary, but daemontools and ucspi-tcp are very clever. > I know these are very simple questions, but could someone give > a simple explanation to help me along. What I would ideally like is > a write up for a minimal setup for the type of installation I have - > it seems none exists or else I can't find it. U... Just install qmail, ucspi-tcp, daemontools and serialmail and follow the instructions step by set. Really. :-)
Re: reboot
* colette tostivint <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010511 03:42]: > > Qmail doesn't run when i reboot my system. Uh-huh... > I make a link : ln -s ../init.d/qmail /etc/rc2.d/S88qmail > I must start manually /etc/rc2.d/S88qmail . SuSE? > What is the problem? Several: * No meaningful input from your part regarding: - operating system - release - default runlevel - invocation of qmail intended * Crystal ball broken: - script functional? - script executable? - script has contents? * General cluelessness, cf. http://www.monster-island.org/tinashumor/humor/usertype.html - pick your poison. You see, apart from the fact that your submission is *wildly* off topic because it has /nothing/ to do _whatsoever_ with qmail, it also lacks even the minimum amount of information necessary to give a more relevant answer than "tough luck, luser".
Re: mailing list
* Karsten W Rohrbach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > ed lim([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2001.05.09 11:28:16 +: >> I need a mailing list to send to our millions of subscribers... I am >> already using ezmlm but I'm still open for suggestions on a much >> simpler or better one. > ezmlm-idx with mysql support and the subscriber lists in a database. > considering the larger overhead of an sql server, i was thinking about > stuffing subscriber lists in a cdb hash from the sql db. Did you read the relevant chapters from the ezmlm-idx (that's what you probably want, not stock ezmlm)? You will want to use sublists, anyway, and the performance overhead for the SQL server is probably small compared to the load the mail server has to carry, anyway. And the ezmlm-ML is the right place to discuss this. -- Robin S. Socha - Your Worst Network Nightmare(tm). `In Germany, they are not referred to as network administrators. They prefer to be called "Sons Of The Third Reich".' (Kate: www.katewerk.com)
Re: Newbie with tcpserver
* Paulo Jan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010510 11:00]: > Considering the guy's name, perhaps English isn't his primary language > and he isn't fluent at all with it, which would also explain why he > wasn't able to express himself politely enough when rejecting the > "offer" from that consultant, and had to resort to a > basic-and-apparently-rude-sounding phrase like "I was asking for free > help". Did that thought cross your mind? Not for second. I'm German. I don't think. ,[ http://www.es.qmail.org/documentacion/distro/puf/ ] | Este documento es un listado de respuestas a Preguntas de Uso Frecuente | relacionadas con qmail, basado enteramente en la FAQ original del autor | de qmail, D. J. Bernstein, radicada en http://cr.yp.to/qmail/faq.html, | siendo por tanto más reciente, y conteniendo información más actualizada | que el fichero FAQ incluido en la distribución de qmail-1.03.· ` ¿Ahora qué, señor? -- Robin S. Socha - Your Worst Network Nightmare(tm). `In Germany, they are not referred to as network administrators. They prefer to be called "Sons Of The Third Reich".' (Kate: www.katewerk.com)
Re: Re[2]: Newbie with tcpserver
* Barry Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010510 08:58]: > First of all: This is the most arrogant list I have come across. All > the other lists that I'm on help out beginners with a short answer (we > were all beginners once ... ), but here the beginner is either told to > RTFM or told to pay for support. http://cr.yp.to/lists.html: "Please read FAQ, PIC.*, and the other documentation in the qmail package before sending your question to the qmail mailing list." And: "There is a hypertext archive of the mailing list at ORNL". Which part of this paragraph do you not understand, Barry? > Regarding the tcpserver question: > > AFAIK (and I'm no expert), TCPSEVER is configured in the command line, > and uses /etc/tcp.* files for security & access settings. Did you ever read http://cr.yp.to/ucspi-tcp/tcpserver.html? > The manual files are installes with the software and can be read with > "man tcpserver". Else they're in the source directory. (robin@mail1):(~/Compile)$ wget http://cr.yp.to/ucspi-tcp/ucspi-tcp-0.88.tar.gz 09:03:14 (176.71 KB/s) - `ucspi-tcp-0.88.tar.gz' saved [53019/53019] (robin@mail1):(~/Compile)$ tar tzf ucspi-tcp-0.88.tar.gz | grep '\.1'$ (robin@mail1):(~/Compile)$ Sure, Barry. In my world, however, they were kindly provided by Gerrit Pape of innominate at ftp://ftp.innominate.org/gpa/djb/. > PS: Flames will be directed to /dev/null but sensible comments will be > considered. I love you too, Barry. > PPS: I've included the whole thread ONLY to demonstrate the above > statement. Thank you very much. 7 more Yahoo! sigs for my collection. You're *such* a tool, Barry...
Re: Newbie with tcpserver
* Pablo Buenaventura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010510 08:08]: > --- Vinient <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > > intrested for small price we will do it > No, I am not interested to pay for it. Let me rephrase that: "I am an idiot. I also want free support for an application which I intend to run in a commercial environment." Do I understand you correctly? > I was waiting for free help. I presume you've read http://cr.yp.to/lists.html - it says "Please read FAQ, PIC.*, and the other documentation in the qmail package before sending your question to the qmail mailing list." You do not even leave the impression of having basic reading ability. I walked someone through installing qmail over the phone last night. 10 minutes. *WHAT* was your question again? And read http://learn.to/edit_messages/ before you reply. -- Robin S. Socha - Your Worst Network Nightmare(tm). `In Germany, they are not referred to as network administrators. They prefer to be called "Sons Of The Third Reich".' (Kate: www.katewerk.com)
Re: Omitting certain headers in outgoing mails?
* Wolfgang Zeikat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010510 00:05]: > some MUA's add headers to outgoing mails: > > Netscape mail under Linux adds > Sender: real_username@host > > Pine adds > X-Sender: real_username@host > which can be customized to > Sender: real_username@host > > can i have qmail remove those headers in outgoing mails? UTSL or use a non-broken MUA. Also, it is debatable whether this entry should be removed at all. Judging from your previous posts, your real problem appears to be that your network setup is broken. Fix it - don't fsck -9 the symptoms. Also, DO NOT START NEW THREADS WITH REPLY. Here is what you achieve: 25 X 010509 David Means ( 27) Re: notification of new email whenever user logs in on the shell 26 X 010510 Wolfgang Zeikat ( 16) |->Omitting certain headers in outgoing mails? 27 X 010510 alexus( 41) `->Re: notification of new email whenever user logs in on the shell 28 X 010510 Okan CIMEN( 8) `->no from imformation 29 X 010510 Peter van Dijk( 9) `-> 30 X 010510 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( 11) `->qmail retry
Re: Fw:
* Okan CIMEN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010510 03:11]: > *** DO NOT OPEN THE ATTACHMENT*** If you are 99% certain that you're sending a virus, WHY DO YOU SEND IT? If you can be 99% sure that at least 5 "administrators" whose users are subscribed to this list are idiots with misconfigured virus scanners, WHY DO YOU SEND IT? > Our e-mail users receive lots of e-mails with no subject nor from > adress but just an attachment. Below is an example I have received > before. As you may see there are no "from" or "subject" information > available. The only clue is the .exe attachment with a random name > written in capital letters. Which documents about qmail and UCE prevention did you read before you asked here? There are several on http://qmail.org/. > How can I block these e-mails? When all else fails, man procmail. But you don't leave the impression that you'll understand it. I'll get some popcorn while the "our L33t virus sc4nn3r has found some virus that can't affect you because you're not running commercial software from Redmon" hit this list. Again. Thank you *very* much.
Re: mutt, qmail, and ~/Maildir/ spooling
* Charles Cazabon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010509 17:22]: > Steven Katz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I keep getting the following error from mutt: > > "/var/spool/mail/steven: No such file or directory (errno = 2)" > > Could someone refer me to a muttrc that works with Maildir? > > mutt.org has links to a few good .muttrc files. However, the info you're > looking for (I had trouble finding it myself at one point) is probably > the "spoolfile" variable: > > set mbox="~/Mail/inbox/" > set mbox_type="Maildir" > set spoolfile="~/Mail/inbox/" You might as well use environment variables. man mailer.conf or something. :-)
Re: Question to entries in logfile
* Thomas Booms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010509 15:28]: > what does this line means? It does means that you need a Grammar Checker(tm). > I have much of these in my logfiles. But I don't know why. How can I > solve this problem? Well, you've violated rule #1 when fscking with the qmail queue: "thou shalt not fucke with the ole qmail queue". Shut down qmail, rm -rf queue, cd sourcedir, make setup check, start qmail.
Re: Server-side mail clients
* Steven Katz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Does anyone know of any good documentation on using pine and/or mutt > with qmail? I'd like to use something that works with maildirs, but > doesn't move messages out of the 'new' subdir, so that I can still > retrieve messages to a remote client. Have you considered setting up an IMAP Server? -- Robin S. Socha - Your Worst Network Nightmare(tm). `In Germany, they are not referred to as network administrators. They prefer to be called "Sons Of The Third Reich".' (Kate: www.katewerk.com)
Re: how do I remove a message from the queue?
* Peter Brezny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > How can I purge that message from the queue? http://qmail.org/top.html, look for remove. Also: http://www.io.com/~mick/soft/qmhandle.html > I can locate where the message is, /var/qmail/queue/5/542, but am I > going to cause problems if I just delete the file that contains it > currently? Yes. -- Robin S. Socha - Your Worst Network Nightmare(tm). `In Germany, they are not referred to as network administrators. They prefer to be called "Sons Of The Third Reich".' (Kate: www.katewerk.com)
Re: mails not deleing
* QmailList <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010507 00:18]: Your mail is quite annoyingly formatted: http://learn.to/edit_messages/. > I am using qmail+vpopmail on RH 6.2 linux with Maildir > > I want how mail client are treated when conneting to qmail pop server Depends on the client software used. Imagine the following: mutt: "Hi, qmail-pop3d, it's me..." qmail-pop3d:"Hi there, here, have some mail..." OTOH, using Neanderthal Technology, the following dialogue is also possible: Outlook Express: "We are Mircosoft of Borg. Your standards will be assimilated. RFCs are futile." qmail-pop3d: "RTFM, luser... *PLONK*" > Because my pop client are complaining of ,Their mails are not get delete > > when the internet connection is loss while downloading the mail and all the > > mail comes again when they reconnect, What exactly did you expect? Do you want to delete mail that has not yet been downloaded?
Re: dialup setup
* Gavin McCord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010506 08:23]: > On 2001.05.05 22:37 Chris Corbettis wrote: > > Can anyone here point me to some documentation on setting up > > qmail+fetchmail over a dialup line? > www.lifewithqmail.org ... points to http://cr.yp.to/serialmail.html which is not exactly overly helpful in setting serialmail up :-) > The qmail.org site is not short of links either. TOISP and FROMISP in the source tarball should do. IMVHO they should be renamed to INSTALL.TOISP... ;-)
Re: Can MX record be CNAME?
* Henning Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010504 04:49]: [...] > You are posting tons of useless OFF TOPIC stuff and not a single on-topic > message so far, please stop this NOW. http://www.moongroup.com/stories.php?story=01/04/19/7271589 - nice site, too. And fix your sig. Noone's gonna call you with an MUA, you know? }:->
Re: Huge Maildirs?
* List Monkey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010504 01:52]: > Does anyone have experience with HUGE Maildir's? I have an account that > is subscribed to a lot of high traffic mailing lists (like this one), and > I want to keep all the messages on my server. Would you care to elaborate what sort of experiences you're looking for. If you want an answer to "will my buggy and insecure Pine.LNX.4.10 perform well with such a maildir?", you can have it. "No". That is, not unless you filter into folders and read from there. man maildrop. > I have seen grumblings, but no concrete info, on what may happen when your > Maildir contains 10,000 or 100,000 or 1,000,000 messages? What should happen? It's just files. Performance problems are the same as per usual (ext2 being one of the not-so-very-good filesystems for starters). > I am running 2.2.* Linux If this is a real problem for you, you might want to think about taking a look at one of the journalling file systems. You might as well take a look at softupdates and *BSD. -- Robin S. Socha http://my.gnus.org/ - To boldly frobnicate what no newbie has grokked before.
Re: open BSD
* Essy Ren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010503 03:33]: > Can I use qmail in open BSD ? Huh? Did you even bother to read http://cr.yp.to/? Like, the line that starts with DNS? Or how about http://cr.yp.to/qmail/faq/orientation.html#os? Or even better: how about man locate? -- Robin S. Socha http://my.gnus.org/ - To boldly frobnicate what no newbie has grokked before.
Re: need a thought..
* Yanurul Anwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010503 02:39]: > we intend to have separate smtp and pop3 server. smtp using qmail on > linux redhat 6.2 and pop3 server using exchange on win2000advance > server. the guys said that reason to do this is so we have two > antivirus on the whole. Antiviruses don't work. Using software not vulnerable to viruses works. > companies treathened banning our mail last time cause ours were full > of virus. so the guys thinks that it would be better to separate smtp > and pop3. That guy is a complete idiot. 1. Antiviruses don't work (see above). 2. W2k is a massive security threat, especially in the hands of someone obviously not up to the challenge of setting it up in a production environment. 3. MS Exchange introduces further massive risks in the areas of stability, reliability and security. I short: you are about to set up a buggy, insecure, unstable, expensive, proprietary system known to violate every RFC pertaining to internet mail in order to work around bugs, security holes and inconsistencies in your mail clients which also work (or more often than not don't) under a a self-proclaimed operating system written by idiots for idiots? Sounds like a very reasonable plan IYAM. OTOH, you might use one of the virus scanners available via http://qmail.org/ and run more than one AV program on the same machine. > is it acceptable? the reason i mean? No. Not at all. But it will make at least two commercial companies very happy. > or anyone have better suggestion ? (any comment welcome. even > flame...) Hire an admin. You obviously don't have one. -- Robin S. Socha http://my.gnus.org/ - To boldly frobnicate what no newbie has grokked before.
Re: [ezmlm] lock: file does not exist
* Peter Peltonen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010502 09:57]: > > Okay... It seems my problem was due to use of switches I didn't need > and not really understanding what I was doing :) Parse error at ":)". > Still I have two questions about ezmlm: http://cr.yp.to/lists.html: ezmlm: For discussion of the ezmlm package. To subscribe, send an empty message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 1) how do I add a bunch of addresses to a list (locally or remotely)? With MySQL? Without? Why are you running a MySQL-enabled version of a program whose basic functionality you haven't even begun to grasp? >I tried 'ezmlm-sub /home/test/lists/testlist that contained a bunch of addresses, but that did not work. In which way did it not work? Did it rape your dog, kill your sister,, or fail with an error message that you didn't submit because you are mistaking this list for a quiz show? > 2) how do I delete a list (just rm away the .qmail files and the list dir?) http://ezmlm.org/faq-0.40/FAQ-5.html -- Robin S. Socha http://my.gnus.org/ - To boldly frobnicate what no newbie has grokked before.
Re: slow smtp connection
Why can you lusers not quote properly? Your mailtoys totally fuck up threading in decent MUAs and also destroy archives. I manually re-formatted your mail to make it readable. READ http://learn.to/edit_messages, *PLEASE*. Also note that I am subscribed to this list. *Do* *not* *Cc* *me*. * dan. kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010501 16:06]: > On Tue, 01 May 2001, denis wrote: > > Jeremy Suo-Anttila wrote: > > > dan.kelley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > On Tue, 01 May 2001, Brett Randall wrote: > > > > >"Charles" == Charles Cazabon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > A note to potential qmail newbies: we'll help you. [...] > > > > > Why isn't this type of message in the qmail-subscribe > > > > > auto-generated reply? [...] Of course, one could also point out > > > > > that having the list message-moderated with a couple of good > > > > > moderators in a couple of opposing timezones would significantly > > > > > increase the signal to noise ratio. > > > > or how about breaking up the list to qmail-newbiesand > > > > qmail-arch, or somthing similar? i know this has been suggested > > > > before. > > > if you break it up then the newbies will just post to both lists. > > Alas, so very true > right, but then you could moderate the qmail-arch list, and leave the > qmail-newbies list open. (i'm cribbing of the freebsd lists; the > freebsd-arch list gets virtually no static, near as i can tell). Why leave the list open? There is a USENET newsgroup if you think you need to allow lusers to ask FAQs in technical forums. Moderated lists are usually good lists. Unmoderated lists are an invitation to lusers with MS Outlook to break them. QED. The qmail documentation available is better than for any other MTA I know. Dave Sill's LWQ is just great. Why bother with people to lazy/stupid/ignorant to read it? Can you name just one good reason (other than some pseudo-liberal "equal opportunities" BS)? -- Robin S. Socha http://my.gnus.org/ - To boldly frobnicate what no newbie has grokked before.
Re: Which IMAP do you prefer with qmail?
* q question <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010429 16:38]: Your parents must hate you. > I'm curious, not to really try to create a survey, but of those of you on > this list using qmail with IMAP, which IMAP are you using? Courier - what else? Cyrus is nice but uses proprietary formats noone really needs and UW IMAP is brought to you by the security Gods that brohgt you pine. Mbwhahaha... http://mail.socha.net/about/ for a setup that makes me and my users equally happy. -- Robin S. Socha http://my.gnus.org/ - To boldly frobnicate what no newbie has grokked before.
Re: Strange POP Problem
* |nix ZixinG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010428 04:59]: > I've got a strange problem with my POP3 Daemon. Not. You have a problem with your MUA (sending HTML to lists is *extremely* rude) and your not reading the docs. > It was working fine all along when suddenly, my client's can't > authenticate. They keep having timeout error. I felt strange, so I > waited, and found that after waiting for 2 minutes, it will actually > authenticate and get my mail. What did you change? > The lag is just at the connection. Outlook express will just show > connected for 2 minutes before it actually check Outlook Express is FUBAR. Test with a working MUA. Gnus, mutt, PMail. > I'm using VPOPMail, QMail, TCPServer Thanks for not submitting any useful information (like your pop3d run script). -- Robin S. Socha http://my.gnus.org/ - To boldly frobnicate what no newbie has grokked before.
"A news.newusers.questions's Guide to Qmail"
Does anyone else not find this overly impressive, either? http://www.securityfocus.com/templates/forum_message.html?forum=2&head=5418&id=5418 I particularlyl like the "Closing remarks": |Please direct any questions regarding Qmail, dot-forward, fastforward, |and/or EZMLM to Dan Bernstein . Bet they'll never publish my comments... -- Robin S. Socha - Look, Ma, it's all green... http://my.gnus.org/users/robin/
Re: off topic qmail compiling error Clock skew detected
* Linux!audimed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010426 16:05]: > I know it is a off topic. Then why don't you choose an appropriate forum? /join #lusers > make: warning: Clock skew detected. Your build may be incomplete. man date - and remember, kids: reboots are for hardware changes. -- Robin S. Socha http://my.gnus.org/ - To boldly frobnicate what no newbie has grokked before.
Re: RedHat 7.1 and qmail+vpopmail
* K. F. YIm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010426 09:09]: > Thomas Rokamp >> Does anyone know, if there would be any promblems installing >> qmail+vpopmail using Maildir's on a RedHat 7.1 installation? I'm >> hosting a few domains... I already have it installed on an earlier >> version of RedHat, but I'm planning to reinstall the server. My only >> concern is about qmail... WFM >> I'm also looking for some webmail software, that will work on the >> above installation. Any suggestions? > > Webmail www.netwinsite.com. |http://www.netwinsite.com/dmailweb/download.htm |DMailWeb & CWMail are products of Netwin Ltd. You may download and use |this software for one month. At the end of this evaluation period you |must register your copy of the software and purchase a software license, |or stop using it. Let me recap: you're a dyslexic spammer without a clue who prefers to point and click instead of reading http://learn.to/edit_messages/ [x] FOAD Thomas, read http://qmail.org/top.html#usersoft -- Robin S. Socha http://my.gnus.org/ - To boldly frobnicate what no newbie has grokked before.
Re: Ban These Exchange Server Users
* Ruprecht Helms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, I have trouble understanding that you mean. No. You are trying to be a particularly Good German(tm). The only thing more embarrassing than a Funny German is quite possibly a Good German, though. >> ..., but there are nicer ways to be a Nazi than this... > Sorry but this seems for my you are thinking not bad over rassism and > the things, that were done in the time from 1993 to 1945. Get a life, tree-hugger: http://www.tuxedo.org/jargon/html/entry/fascist.html > If it is so, this mailinglist is the wrong place to say such > things. In germany the isp have to cancel the internetconnection from > a user if the hear that the user is providing neonazistic stuff and > postings that contains material like that. Don't meddle in the affairs of wiza^Wpolitical scientists, Ruprecht. You are wrong, and - what's worse - you know it. But, eh, you kinda invoked Godwin, and that's good. -- Robin S. Socha http://my.gnus.org/ - To boldly frobnicate what no newbie has grokked before.
Re: Vulnerable MUAs ...
* David Talkington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Charles Cazabon wrote: >> I daresay the majority of people on this list are clueful enough to >> not run vulnerable email clients. > In a quick not-quite-scientific survey of 6,757 messages in my > qmail-list folder: > pnet4:djb 522 $ grep -i ^X-Mailer: qmail \ > |grep -iE 'microsoft|eudora' |wc -l >1757 You forgot something, David... Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --> find pine4.33 -type f | xargs egrep '(sprintf|strcpy|strcat)' | wc -l 3817 Now, why on earth are *you* running qmail instead of sendmail? }:-> -- Robin S. Socha http://my.gnus.org/ - To boldly frobnicate what no newbie has grokked before.
ezmlm-idx? (was: ScanMail Message: To Recipient virus found and action taken.)
* Aaron L Meehan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Quoting Alex Pennace ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): >> Am I the only one that finds it ironic that a list for a Unix MTA is >> plagued by a Windows mail trojan and a mail scanner eager to tell >> recipients about the disposition of the message? > which is why I use the following procmail rules given to me at some > point by another list member and slightly modified. I decided to put > them in after the last round of newbie whining about us being too > tough on them ;-) Turns out I don't see any of these virus things. [/dev/null recipe] What would that look like as a maildrop rule or filter rule for Courier? > Anyway, those rules are nicely filtering out all the cruft. :) Well, yes, but... Personally, I think it would be nice if the cr.yp.to lists were running ezmlm-idx with at least vcard, html, and everything MS-binary in mimeremove. That would rid them of these braindamages once and for all. For the uninitiated: , | (robin@radioactive):(~/lists)$ head -n3 test/mimeremove | application/excel | application/rtf | application/msword ` > Sorry to those folks that have to use them at work (never find me > taking a job like that). Those that use them by choice, well, get a > real MUA. The SNR is just too high! More or less true. The clueful people here are using mutt, VM and Gnus. I wonder what DJB himself uses, but it appears to be mutt as well (pretty obvious choice - it would take him days to tweak cc-mode in Emacs }:->). -- Robin S. Socha http://my.gnus.org/ - To boldly frobnicate what no newbie has grokked before.
Re: It's not my list but ... (AV Bots)
* Bruno Wolff III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010424 09:31]: > It isn't my list, but if it was I would add the IP addresses of any servers > that sent a virus warning to my list into my tcp rules block list. Well, this one "feature" in Windows has created more traffic than qmail over the last 24h. Anyway, your suggestion is wrong. If the admin of a central mailserver is a) stupid enough to run Windows b) stupid enough to use a virus scanner c) stupid enough to run a misconfigured mail notificication we have a clear case of MCSE, but that's no reason to punish the users of that server. Again: the problem is on the server side (i.e. "administrators" running Exchange on Win2k or whatever the the lates hype is) here, not on the users'. -- Robin S. Socha http://my.gnus.org/ - To boldly frobnicate what no newbie has grokked before.
Re: ScanMail Message: To Recipient virus found and action taken.
* David Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> ScanMail is broken. > Only about 1/3 are from ScanMail. And I'm not sure it's behavior is so > broken... It is broken. No software whatsoever is entitled to send mail to lists. End of Discussion. > if you detect a virus from a list, is it better/worse to flood the > list with warnings that the virus was found, or remain silent and risk > more users flooding the list with more viruses? Virus? What virus? This is about qmail. Does qmail run on Wintendos? > Either way, it's a lot of junk mail. Yes, it is. And the culprit is broken software: 1. a broken family of "OS"es from Redmond 2. broken MUAs 3. broken anti-virus software Well, congrats, Bill - another blatant display of your software's utter superiority. -- Robin S. Socha http://my.gnus.org/ - To boldly frobnicate what no newbie has grokked before.
Re: mailing list software to use with qmail?
* Peter Peltonen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010423 04:43]: > > Could someone recommend me a good mailing list software that works fine with > qmail and has a web based admin interface? You'vegot to be kidding. http://ezmlm.org/ and http://cr.yp.to/ezmlm.html > First I thought about mailman but after reading it's README.QMAIL I am a bit > in doubt, as it seems to have so many issues regarding Qmail. I've used MailMan. It stinks. It will offer you web administration alright. Exclusively. Very annoying. I find the following combination of software extremely satisfying: http://mail.socha.net/about/ -- Robin S. Socha http://my.gnus.org/ - To boldly frobnicate what no newbie has grokked before.
Re: [OT] Sticky question about qmail-queue and qmail-smtpd interactions
* Andy Bradford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Thus said Jason Haar on Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:06:02 +1200: >> me to realise a rare error condition I hadn't expected. This virus >> scanner didn't like scanning a 90Mb zip'ped AVI file (ahem) - whereas >> another vendor scanner took 1.5minutes to scan it, this one took >> nearly two hours... > Tell them to send MPEG instead. ;-) Excellent solution. If I read Jason correctly, though, his scanner is actually opening zip files. Jason, would you like a copy of 42.zip? You know, that's a 42k zip file with 10 zip files with 10 zip files with... Unzipping stuff on the server is, well, asking for trouble. -- Robin S. Socha http://my.gnus.org/ - To boldly frobnicate what no newbie has grokked before.
Re: problem about move to qmail for virtual domain.
* Michael Cheung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > as I want to add virtual domain, which is better vmailmgr and vpopmail > or any other choice? It does not really matter. Personally, I like vpopmail's "one user, all domains" concept better and inter7 has kindly provided some rather nifty add-ons (like vqsignup and its successor) as well as a pretty decent webinterface to administrate your domains (qmailadmin - vmailmgr has omailadmin which is equally good). You should not see any differences using either of them AFAICT. -- Robin S. Socha http://my.gnus.org/ - To boldly frobnicate what no newbie has grokked before.
Re: Forwarding user mail.
* Rakhesh Sasidharan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010419 15:24]: > On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Robin S. Socha wrote: > > > > TO do that, I created a file .qmail-player in the aliases directory, > > > and put the name "rakhesh@fqdn" in that (that's how I had got qmail to > > > deliver mail for non-existant addresses like postmaster etc); but > > > qmail still delivers mail to "player" and not "rakhesh". > > > > You mean "&rakhesh@fqdn"? And "fqdn" won't work, anyway. > > Well, I had just put the username "rakhesh" into .qmail-player. And no, I > hadn't put any "&" -- is that needed? No. I am an idiot. Peter's explanation is correct.
Re: Forwarding user mail.
* Rakhesh Sasidharan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010419 15:04]: > TO do that, I created a file .qmail-player in the aliases directory, > and put the name "rakhesh@fqdn" in that (that's how I had got qmail to > deliver mail for non-existant addresses like postmaster etc); but > qmail still delivers mail to "player" and not "rakhesh". You mean "&rakhesh@fqdn"? And "fqdn" won't work, anyway.
Re: qmail+vpopmail
* Katzenmeyer, Eli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010418 16:26]: > I'm having a bit of a problem configuring qmail to use vpopmail to > manage virtual domains for me. 1. vpopmail has its own mailing list and if you had read the vpopmail docs, you'd know. 2. Your problem has nothing to do with qmail, trust me. 3. Read vpopmail's install instructions again, particularly the part about vsetup.
Re: qmail-spawn_unable_to_fork
* Federico Edelman Anaya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010417 15:00]: > How can I do to solve this problem? > What's kernel parameters can I set? Dear Federico, Thank you very much for providing zero information about your setup while posting a question not related to qmail but your $OS. Please remake /dev/brain and try again later. Ro"mycrystalballisbroken"bin
Re: Maildir (dir) to file for /var/mail/$USR (Inbox) [imapd]
* alexus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010417 14:34]: > if i set *client* correctly?? Which part of "everything Microsoft has ever produced is fucked up beyond recognition" have you not understood, "alexus"? > that's the thing i dont want to deal with users wasting my time by > explaining how to set up their e-mail clients! everything should work > with default settings. Which part of "Outlook is broken" have you not understood? > define "properly configured client"? is there some syntax that i should use > or something? format c: > i'm going try courier imapd now.. > w/ --enable-workarounds-for-imap-client-bugs > let's see how is that goin help me.. It is going to introduce broken behaviour into an otherwise perfect IMAP server. And just in case you haven't noticed yet: you are *off* *topic*. None of your problems have to do with qmail. Being incompetent and using broken software have nothing to do with qmail. Get MS Exchange.
Re: qmail compilation error
* Kieran Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010417 12:33]: > I dont think it is qmail that is causing the problem, possibly a > broken system (Redhat 6.2/i386) ? RedHat indeed qualifies as a broken system. But not in this respect. > In file included from /usr/include/fcntl.h:33, > from open_append.c:2: > /usr/include/bits/fcntl.h:113: parse error before `__off_t' On a vanilla 6.2 that should be glibc-devel-2.1.3. rpm -qi --whatprovides /usr/include/fcntl.h This is *not* a qmail problem, so you should contact your vendor or (more likely) shoot your admin.
Re: Maildir (dir) to file for /var/mail/$USR (Inbox) [imapd]
* David Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010415 13:18]: > Could you share with us how to properly setup the client? http://www.newsville.com/news/groups/comp.mail.html [snipped endless miles of broken quotes] Did it ever occur to you, David, that this is a technical mailing list dealing with an MTA? It's not a support forum for people lazy to even try to comprehend what the difference between an MTA, and MUA and an IMAP server is? -- Robin S. Socha, http://socha.net/
Re: Maildir (dir) to file for /var/mail/$USR (Inbox) [imapd]
* alexus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010414 01:01]: > .. let's start from right note here .. by sayin' i'm using qmail w/ Maildir > and imapd (doesn't really matter which one but if someone wants to know i'm > using the one the came with pine package (uw-imapd)) Does it understand Maildir? http://qmail.org/top.html#usersoft > .. and i'm using very popular client known as Outlook Express and/or > Outlook and i'm sure many more will have same problem/thing.. Sure, but fdisk always helps.
reality check not working (was: smtp and pop not working)
* Al Sparks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Actually he has a point. No. A spot. And a very weak one, too. > The SANS conference I attended last year included a demonstration of > how sites are broken into. Woah! Evil h4X0rs abound!!!1 I can almost see it here before me: SANS: "Al, this is $SITE. $SITE, this is Al." Al: "Hi, $SITE!!!" SANS: "Now, now, let's not get overexcited. OK, so, here is $PORTSCANNER." Al: "Umm..." SANS: "Do you copy, Al?" Al: "Err... Yeah, like, sure!" SANS: "OK, so we take this portscanner and break into this site, OK." Al: "Cool!!! Can /I/ do it?" SANS: "Um... Errr..." [...] > The first thing the presenters did was give a talk about researching > your target. One thing they like to do is do searches in technical > lists (e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED]) for the targets domain name or even > the name of a known sysadmin. Gee, thanks, Al. Like, *REAL* news here. However, having read http://www.securityfocus.com/templates/forum_message.html?forum=2&head=5144&id=5144 you might consider LARTing yourself and cease posting semi-digested knowledge. > They use this technique to get clues on the architecture of their > target, and of course a lot of queries on this list will lay out > exactly what the architecture is. Here you go, Al: http://cr.yp.to/ - happy hacking... Who knows, being a real serious security D00d3, you might even find a remote hole in qmail and OpenBSD and get famous. > I dont use my employers hostname when sending email on this list for > that reason; though thats about the only obfuscation Im using. Al, do you know what a port scanner is? It's, like, you know, an EVIL h4X0r t00!. I don't need your employer\222[1]s name. If I'm bored enough (and given the situation of Joe Random Highschool Luser, I would be), I'll find it sooner or later. man pingsweep. > Ive been around the net long enough (worked at a University when the > net was run by DARPA; pre-web days) to bemoan the fact that finger > daemons were having to be disabled because they were used as a way to > collect spam targets. Oh. I see. So you're one of the samples collected in http://www.sans.org/newlook/resources/errors.htm that led to "Number One". > This is another example where people are having to be less open. Yeah, right. If, however, you take a look at http://www.sans.org/topten.htm, you'll see that your real problems lie elsewhere. Footnotes: [1] Hint: that "'" thingy is not an accent. -- Robin S. Socha, Bastard Consultant From Hell <http://socha.net/>
Re: OpenBSD 2.8 & "You have new mail in /var/mail/root"
* Rick Updegrove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010411 02:38]: > From: "Michael Handler" > > > Why would you want to do that? Did you read the manpage for mailer.conf? > > No, I admint that I didn't, but now I did. However, I am no smarter > than when I started. It does not contains any references to qmail, > only examples for sendmail and postfix. > > It exists exactly so that you don't have to bother touching any symlinks > > or such on the filesystem. > > It really wasn't that much of a bother and I didn't read that > statement in the man pages anywhere but since you brought it up, let > me see if I understand now. > > From mailer.conf [...] > So I should just use... > > #emulate sendmail using qmail > sendmail/var/qmail/bin/sendmail Matter of fact, you should have just used the ports: ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):(/home/robin)$ cat /usr/ports/mail/qmail/files/mailer.conf.sample # Configuration for mailwrapper is kept in /etc/mail/mailer.conf. # Replace that file with this one to enable qmail under a sendmail # disguise. Very useful. sendmail/var/qmail/bin/sendmail send-mail /var/qmail/bin/sendmail mailq /var/qmail/bin/qmail-qread newaliases /var/qmail/bin/newaliases > And remove all of the symlinks as well as all other references in that > file? That one line would not be enough. > RHETORICAL QUESTION: Why doesn't just come installed > with qmail as the default MTA? In the case of $YOUR_OS, it's Theo's fault. Apparently, he believes that one God of Wrath is enough for his project. He also seems to believe that this God should be him. That's why people like me have to clean up their OpenBSDs. Henning Brauer, however, has compiled a stripped down version of OpenBSD which will make installation easier. Good. http://www.monkey.org/openbsd/archive/misc/0103/msg00997.html The rest of the thread is *some*where in the directory, but owing to Outlook Express' and other crapware's braindeadness, it's entirely unreadable. Great.
Re: qmailmrtg problem
* Fadli Syarid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010402 07:49]: > make all-recursive > Making all in qmailmrtg > "Makefile", line 282: Need an operator > make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. The Makefile expects gmake, while you are using make.
Re: migrating from MS Exchange to q-mail
* Tuchyna, Roman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > does anybody have any experience with migrating from MS-Exchange to > q-mail on Linux ? Will you take "yes" for an answer? You lose stuff like appointment management, but you get an Operating System and an MTA that works. If you don't want to lose that groupware functionality, take a look at HP's OpenMail (which uses sendmail AFAICS). -- Robin S. Socha <http://socha.net/> Note to experienced users: Please don't encourage anti-support behavior. Don't try to answer questions from users who don't provide the necessary information. Guessing what they did is an incredible waste of time. (DJB)
Re: qmail won't receive email
* Kevin Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Because I had a huge queue of messages I did not need, I stopped qmail > by this command, kill -TERM [pid] and then removed alls the files from > the following directories : > /var/qmail/queue/info /var/qmail/queue/local /var/qmail/queue/mess > /var/qmail/queue/remote > Then restarted qmail which was fine It wasn't. Grab your sources, stop qmail and say "make setup check" to re-create your queue. This is a FAQ. -- Robin S. Socha <http://socha.net/> Note to experienced users: Please don't encourage anti-support behavior. Don't try to answer questions from users who don't provide the necessary information. Guessing what they did is an incredible waste of time. (DJB)
Re: Tcpserver
* Bill Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Charles Cazabon wrote: > Richard Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [quoting corrected] >>> This way the ones who don't mind helping the newbies (like myself) >>> can actually get some work done instead of having to read whining / >>> vulgar emails!. Yes I can use the F-word just as easily as everyone >>> else but THIS LIST is *NOT* the place for it. >> On the contrary; djb himself has used it many times on this list. I >> have the archive entries to prove it. You're not the language police; >> if you don't care for the occasional blue word, please don't read this >> list. > Well, if djb used the F-word, THAT makes it all OK! Yup. His suite of programs, his list. He God. You luser. Easy. The gang of lusers you're trying to protect here *has* *not* provided sufficient information. They were pointed at the correct links from google. They were shown how to use their mailtoys correctly (you don't give a toss about what your mail looks like, eh? Tell you what: there is a reason why people use quote strings). Do they care? No. Do the people who devote their time to trying to help people with problems get paid for this? No. So you don't care - tough luck. Contribute nothing, expect nothing. > However, as any educated individual will tell you. Parse error. > Your choice of words is a direct reflection of your intellect. Tell me, Bill, how would you know? > Choose any words you care to use, it will only gives us a better > insite of the validity of all your comments. You are so full of yourself your eyeballs must be brown. In case you haven't noticed: this is a technical mailing list. Take your political correctness and shove it. This is not a "I'm a pathetic luser with limited reading abilities and gosh! it would be, like, rillyrilly nice if you guys could read out the docs to me." list. This a mailing list where - in good times - some people get some real problems solved and others benefit from the answers. If you cannot grasp this concept, you are *in* *the* *wrong* *place* -- Robin S. Socha <http://mail.socha.net/> Note to experienced users: Please don't encourage anti-support behavior. Don't try to answer questions from users who don't provide the necessary information. Guessing what they did is an incredible waste of time. (DJB)
Re: Tcpserver
* Vincent Schonau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010327 09:37]: > On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 06:22:58PM +0530, Sumith wrote: > > Mr. Robin is trying to discourage newbies like me from asking for help. > > No, he's not. Yes he is. I would very much like for newbies who don't read the FAQ or otherwise try to help themselves to disappear. > FWIW: I agreed with most of what Robin wrote, but to claim > that this is not a support forum for qmail is simply wrong. Vince, we've been there before. This ML is kept alive by a handful of people to whom I'm greatly indebted because they have helped *me* lot. OTOH, *I* would have said "I'm running the Memphis RPMs version #123" in the first place. And yes, I believe that someone who cannot do that should *not* be running a mailserver in the first place. Just for the record (reply-to set, this is way OT): |qmail: For discussion of the qmail package, the qmailanalog package, the |dot-forward package, and the fastforward package. [...] | |Please read FAQ, PIC.*, and the other documentation in the qmail package |before sending your question to the qmail mailing list. -- Robin S. Socha http://mail.socha.net/
Re: Tcpserver
* Sumith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010327 04:16]: Side note: would you *PLEASE* turn off HTML in your mail and fix your line width - you're wasting other people's resources and make your messages unnecessarily hard to read. http://learn.to/edit_messages > Qmail FAQ states that tcpserver allows only 40 simultaneous > qmail-smtpd connections and to increase it to 400, I need to run > tcpserver -c 400 > Would this number sustain after a reboot... That depends on how you start tcpserver. > How to do this for qmail-pop3d as well The same way? I mean, what do you expect us to do? Grab a crystal ball and try to find out how you invoke your stuff? Why don't you *read* the available documentation? Like: Step 1: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=%22tcpserver+-c%22+qmail-send Step 2: http://qmail.3va.net/qmailfaq.html#smtpd Step 3: verify that this is correct: http://cr.yp.to/ucspi-tcp/tcpserver.html Keep in mind that a) this is not a support forum and b) helping you each time you have a problem will 1) get on a *lot* of people's nerves and 2) make you prone to not reading the documentation. Neither alternative is desirable. -- Robin S. Socha http://mail.socha.net/
