Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
I have created this script to make it dead simple to run UEML on your Ubuntu 16.04+ 64-bit based distro: https://gist.github.com/olejon/304813a02045e22c63b3041861ee7aef Hope it helps. olejon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66608 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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Mr. Bill wrote: Hello, new poster but longtime Squeezebox user here. I was at Best Buy a few days ago and they were closing out their remaining UE Smart Radios at $98.99 for new ones and $83.99 for 'open box' units. They had 2 left (1 of each) and I purchased both of them and they connected to the UE server without any major issues. However, after using them a few days I noticed the following problems: 1) Both radios have firmware version 10.0.0 and show that as the latest version however there is supposed to be a 10.0.1 version available. Searched the UE forums and several users reported the same issue, can't download latest firmware. 2) Seems the UEML software won't work with the old 10.0.0 version (again according to the user forums) and no solution was offered other than to convert back to the SB software. 3) No web interface to control the UE radio. I was aware of this but didn't realize how much I would miss this feature. So, after 2 days I decided to 'downgrade' the UE radio back to the familiar SB format. However, while I get the menu option to convert the radio as soon as I select the option the radio immediately reboots and comes back up as a UE radio. Before I return the radio, has anyone else had this issue and if so what was the solution? As these were the last units they had in stock my only option is a refund. Thanks, Bill Update, I see that I am not alone with this problem, P Nelson reported the same issue in a different thread as I seem to have. Update to update: After reading other forums it was noted that some users had luck trying to connected by a different ISP. Having nothing to lose I asked a friend if I could try using their internet connection (different ISP than my U-verse) for a quick test and they said sure. Long story short, UE radio connected and immediately asked if I wanted to update the software to the current version (10.0.1) and I said yes. Update ran fine and now I have an updated UE radio and the UEML program now works fine and I'm streaming 'The Doors' as I write this. So, if you have the same issue as I did (can't update your UE radio) and have U-verse as your ISP you may want to try using a different ISP to see if it help. I can confirm that being on UVERSE you will not be able to convert your radio. I used a VPN connection to my university and internet sharing on my mac to circumvent whatever roadblock ATT has put in place. geoffreymbrown's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3646 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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Thanks, seems to work well... the only thing I've found that doesn't seem to work is the battery information page. The player works on battery, but doesn't seem to know it's there as per that page. What that page? Can you confirm what hardware revision and firmware you're running (Settings/Advanced/Diagnostics)? -- Michael ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
You may not have noticed that threads only get formally closed here when they have gotten out of control, not when they are obsolete. Re saving time for future readers, the 'existing sticky thread at the very top of the forum' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?99027-Smart-Radio-and-Squeezebox-software-upgradability) should suffice. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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mherger wrote: Down-/Up-/Crossgrade now official: http://forums.logitech.com/t5/MySqueezebox-com-Squeezebox/An-update-to-the-Logitech-UE-Smart-Radio/td-p/1051331 Don't know whether there will be an official announcement in this forum as well... With this announcement I guess this thread should be closed. Would be good if the first post of the thread got an addition that tells future readers that the problem has been solved. Would save them quite a bit of time My system: LMS 7.7.1(rc1) on Diskstation DS207+ (DSM3.1-1594) via SSODS4.9.1mod2 (by j-r) LMS 7.7.2-002 on Diskstation DS212+ (DSM4.0) via .spk 1 x Logitech Radio, 1 x Touch pz1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=51957 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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I took this picture today in a MediaMarkt (Best Buy equivalent in Europe): on a shelf, they are displaying a UE Smart Radio... with the Squeezebox firmware installed! Maybe it's the only way to sell those... ;-) 15030 +---+ |Filename: IMG_3108.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15030| +---+ Slim SB3 + Cambridge Audio 651R + Cambridge Audio DAC Magic + Q Acoustics 1050i / Touch + Onkyo TX-SR309 + Morel Applause MKII / SB2 and Duet (not used) / Boom / 4 Radio (red, black 2 whites) / Ipeng SqueezePad / Logitech Harmony 900 / Windows 7 + LMS 7.7.2 - r33893 on ASRock ION 330 didjean's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2900 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
Hello, new poster but longtime Squeezebox user here. I was at Best Buy a few days ago and they were closing out their remaining UE Smart Radios at $98.99 for new ones and $83.99 for 'open box' units. They had 2 left (1 of each) and I purchased both of them and they connected to the UE server without any major issues. However, after using them a few days I noticed the following problems: 1) Both radios have firmware version 10.0.0 and show that as the latest version however there is supposed to be a 10.0.1 version available. Searched the UE forums and several users reported the same issue, can't download latest firmware. 2) Seems the UEML software won't work with the old 10.0.0 version (again according to the user forums) and no solution was offered other than to convert back to the SB software. 3) No web interface to control the UE radio. I was aware of this but didn't realize how much I would miss this feature. So, after 2 days I decided to 'downgrade' the UE radio back to the familiar SB format. However, while I get the menu option to convert the radio as soon as I select the option the radio immediately reboots and comes back up as a UE radio. Before I return the radio, has anyone else had this issue and if so what was the solution? As these were the last units they had in stock my only option is a refund. Thanks, Bill Mr. Bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58928 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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simlu wrote: Hi Guys, 8 - Download the 7.7.2 Revision 9663 firmware http://update.mysqueezebox.com/update/firmware/7.8.0/baby_7.7.2_r9663.bin 9 - Copy the firmware on your Smart Radio in directory /dev (using scp or any other software) since it's the only partition with enough disk space 10 - Create a symlink using the following command so the smart radio sees the new firmware: Code: #cd /media #ln -s /dev/baby_7.7.2_r9663.bin baby_7.7.2_r9663.bin 11 - Go in to Settings-AdvancedSettings-FirmwareUpgrade (something like that) and do the upgrade 12 - When the squeezebox (!) has finished rebooting, you will be happy and I strongly suggest that you do a factory reset (Go in Settings - Advanced - Restore factory settings) I get to instruction 8, and I could use some help. When I download the link, windows XP, I get a zip file: baby_7.7.2_r9663.zip. Not a *.bin. Is a zip and bin the same thing? Should simply rename it to baby_7.7.2_r9663.bin? Do I unpack it and copy the five file within the zip files to the /dev on the radio? Thanks for the help. Paul P Nelson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58158 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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pippin wrote: You schools not need that procedure anymore. There should now be a menu item to downgrade in the Radio's settings menu. Yeah, if it would actually work. See my other post #10 on this link. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?99027-Smart-Radio-and-Squeezebox-software-upgradability I was going to try it the hard way, and try and learn this techie stuff. BTW, Pipin, thanks for all your support in helping people on these forums! Paul P Nelson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58158 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
mherger wrote: Down-/Up-/Crossgrade now official: http://forums.logitech.com/t5/MySqueezebox-com-Squeezebox/An-update-to-the-Logitech-UE-Smart-Radio/td-p/1051331 Don't know whether there will be an official announcement in this forum as well... Thanks, seems to work well... the only thing I've found that doesn't seem to work is the battery information page. The player works on battery, but doesn't seem to know it's there as per that page. mbg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3200 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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Down-/Up-/Crossgrade now official: http://forums.logitech.com/t5/MySqueezebox-com-Squeezebox/An-update-to-the-Logitech-UE-Smart-Radio/td-p/1051331 Don't know whether there will be an official announcement in this forum as well... Michael http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR, Smart Mix mherger's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=50 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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Adding my thanks to your superb posting for downgrading the smart radio. We were stuck with redundant, incompatible systems until finding this solution. BRAVO!! Everybody - please note that there are UE SR out there with a newer hardware revision. Please check Settings/Advanced/Diagnostics (I think - don't have one sitting next to me). The latest revision is r8, where the latest SB Radio was HW r7. IIRC the new hardware features a different controller for the wheels, causing difficult volume changes. And a new battery controller. Please stay tuned for an updated SB Radio firmware to cover these changes! -- Michael ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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Adding my thanks to your superb posting for downgrading the smart radio. We were stuck with redundant, incompatible systems until finding this solution. BRAVO!! jkorris's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=60115 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
hip2b2 wrote: Is # cd /media # ln -s /dev/baby_7.7.2_r9663.bin baby_7.7.2_r9663.bin The same as # ln -s /dev/baby_7.7.2_r9663.bin /media/baby_7.7.2_r9663.bin ??? Yes erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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Is # cd /media # ln -s /dev/baby_7.7.2_r9663.bin baby_7.7.2_r9663.bin The same as # ln -s /dev/baby_7.7.2_r9663.bin /media/baby_7.7.2_r9663.bin ??? Thanks hip hip2b2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58236 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
simlu wrote:
Hi Guys,
First of all I'd like to share with you my disappointment with the UE
Smart Radio. Shame on me I didn't read enough before buying. I was sure
this little music box would be better than it's predecessor but it's
quite the opposite. A lot of cool features have been removed and the one
I wanted the most with the UE Smart Radio wasn't there: playing music
locally using my Synology NAS.
I decided to downgrade the firmware to baby 7.7.2 (r9663), thanks to
some useful posts I found on this forum. So far, I've encountered no
issues at all. Here's the information of my UE:
Code:
#cat /etc/squeezeos.version
10.0.1 r16963
r...@ec2mbubld01.idc.logitech.com Thu Nov 8 09:33:51 PST 2012
Base build revision: b4b03b7fc83610c2bcd43bd71a8461768cfd2519
#cat /proc/cpuinfo
Processor : ARM926EJ-S rev 4 (v5l)
BogoMIPS: 359.62
Features: swp half thumb fastmult edsp java
CPU implementer : 0x41
CPU architecture: 5TEJ
CPU variant : 0x0
CPU part: 0x926
CPU revision: 4
Cache type : write-back
Cache clean : cp15 c7 ops
Cache lockdown : format C
Cache format: Harvard
I size : 16384
I assoc : 4
I line length : 32
I sets : 128
D size : 16384
D assoc : 4
D line length : 32
D sets : 128
Hardware: Logitech MX25 Baby Board
Revision: 0007
Serial :
UUID:
If it can be of any help for someone else, here's what I did:
1 - Start the UE Smart Radio
2 - Go into the Settings menu and press button Home and ffwd(). A
new Developers menu will appear at the bottom.
3 - Go into the Developers menu and enable remote access (SSH)
4 - Reboot the UE Smart Radio by holding down the power button and
pressing it again
5 - ssh on your smart radio (You can find the IP address somewhere in
the Settings menu) using root as the user and 1234 for the password
6 - You need to edit a lua script to add the FirmwareUpgrade option.
Do the following:
Code:
#vi
/usr/share/jive/applets/SetupFirmwareUpgrade/SetupFirmwareUpgradeMeta.lua
Now find the following line
- -- jiveMain:addItem(meta:menuItem('appletSetupFirmwareUpgrade',
'advancedSettings',
UPDATE, function(applet) applet:showFirmwareUpgradeMenu() end,
115))-
You need to uncomment this line by deleting the --. Type :wq! (Save
and quit)
7 - Reboot the UE Smart Radio by holding down the power button and
pressing it again
8 - Download the 7.7.2 Revision 9663 firmware
http://update.mysqueezebox.com/update/firmware/7.8.0/baby_7.7.2_r9663.bin
9 - Copy the firmware on your Smart Radio in directory /dev (using scp
or any other software) since it's the only partition with enough disk
space
10 - Create a symlink using the following command so the smart radio
sees the new firmware:
Code:
#cd /media
#ln -s /dev/baby_7.7.2_r9663.bin baby_7.7.2_r9663.bin
11 - Go in to Settings-AdvancedSettings-FirmwareUpgrade (something
like that) and do the upgrade
12 - When the squeezebox (!) has finished rebooting, you will be happy
and I strongly suggest that you do a factory reset (Go in Settings -
Advanced - Restore factory settings)
Just wondering; is there any reason to remove the SYMLINK (#rm symlink)
as the final step? It would seem unnecessary once the device is
converted to a Squeezebox.
Thanks
hip
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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
dkfackler wrote: My ignorance may be showing, but does the radio need that pointer to the desired firmware? Without the symlink, would the radio be once again a StupidRadio? My formerly StupidRadio is much better and more useful as a Squeezebox. Now to use a Raspberry Pi as a server... ~DK The symlink is required to install the .bin file from it's non-standard location in the /media directory. Now it's my turn to expose my ignorance. When you write use a Raspberry Pi as a server... do you mean use it as a true replacement for the Logitech server, or as a server for podcasts and music files? Regards hip hip2b2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58236 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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So, once the firmware is installed, the radio doesn't need to be 'diverted' to the new location(via the symlink) at boot-up? Re Raspberry Pi: the plan is to use it as a NAS and not run a whole computer all the time. ~DK dkfackler's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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dkfackler wrote: So, once the firmware is installed, the radio doesn't need to be 'diverted' to the new location(via the symlink) at boot-up? Re: Raspberry Pi: the plan is to use it as a NAS and not run a whole computer all the time. ~DK That is my understanding, though I am looking for confirmation. My belief is that once the Smart Radio is converted it is now for all intents and purposes a Squeezebox. Regards hip hip2b2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58236 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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hip2b2 wrote: That is my understanding, though I am looking for confirmation. My belief is that once the Smart Radio is converted it is now for all intents and purposes a Squeezebox. The link is only needed during the upgrade process, it will disappear automatically when you do the factory reset in the last step. The reason for the symbolic link is that the UE Smart Radio firmware will look for firmware at uesmartradio.com (where it will find UE Smart Radio firmware) and the symbolic link will make it take the firmware from the local file instead of downloading it from uesmartradio.com. When the device have Squeezebox firmware it will look for firmware at mysqueezebox.com servers and this will make it find Squeezebox firmware, not UE Smart Radio firmware, as long as you haven't selected on mysqueezebox.com web site that it should be upgraded to a UE Smart Radio. hip2b2 wrote: Does anyone know of any solutions to remove Logitech for the operation of the SB and get full functionality. My thought is that one day they may turn off the tap and force users to -shudder -the Smart Radio. You will be able to continue use it for local music, internet radio and some of the online services if you have LMS installed on a computer, Raspberry Pi or other similar device. Some of the online services are going to stop working when Logitech shut down mysqueezebox.com, but that's unlikely to happen intentionally while they still have devices under warranty. However, it can still happen by accident since most of the people with the right knowledge has been laid off recently so if it breaks they might not have the necessary people to fix the problems. Future will tell if there will be an alternative solution after Logitech shuts down mysqueezebox.com. I'm not that worried for Radio and Touch since they can be loaded with custom firmware, the problem is bigger for the older devices (Boom, Transporter, Classic, Receiver) but they will still continue to work for local music as long as LMS works. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
And some of the web radio too mherger made large chunks of the Tune-in stuff local in the 7.8 server beta . Thera are some plugins for spotify bbc and a choice of others that runs on a local server . But most apps will be gone if mysqueezebox.com turns off . Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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aubuti wrote: After the command is done, it should come back to the command prompt in the terminal. If there are errors, you should get an error message. I'm not aware of any verbose logging for scp, but it may exist. SUCCESS! The extra space was the answer. Is it just me, or could the SB sound a bit less 'bassy' than the UE? To my ear, it's an improvement. Many thanks for the gentle guidance. ~DK dkfackler's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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aubuti wrote: I'm not sure what instructions you are following -- could you provide a link? Just on the face of it, I see three things that are likely to be problems: 1) you need a real, existing directory in place of username (i.e., the directory where the firmware is located) 2) you need the correct IP address of your Radio in place of radioIPaddress 3) you shouldn't have a space between the colon and /dev After doing the file copy, the change you should see is the file baby_7.7.2_r9663.bin in the /dev directory on the Radio. OK, I thought the copied file should be visible in the /dev directory. As for instructions-- post #68 on this page: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?97331-Downgrade-UE-Smart-Radio-to-Squeeze-OS/page7 1) I DO have a real directory name in place of username-- that's just a generic placeholder used in _this_ post. 2) Ditto above for radioIPaddress 3) Ah, the space. Will try after space excision. Thanks, DK dkfackler's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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dkfackler wrote: 3) Ah, the space. Will try after space excision. That should be it. Let us know if it isn't! aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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aubuti wrote: That should be it. Let us know if it isn't! So: scp /Users/danny/Desktop/baby_7.7.2_r9663.bin root@10.42.42.4:/dev Is that it? The baby_7.7.2 file is indeed on my desktop and the file should be copied into the /dev directory in the radio whose IP address is 10.42.42.4. Not where I can try this right now. Thank you so much. ~DK dkfackler's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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dkfackler wrote: scp /Users/danny/Desktop/baby_7.7.2_r9663.bin root@10.42.42.4:/dev Looks good to me, and the logic is exactly as you describe. It has been a while since I have copied anything onto my Radio, but you may be prompted for the root password on the Radio. The default is 1234. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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aubuti wrote: Looks good to me, and the logic is exactly as you describe. It has been a while since I have copied anything onto my Radio, but you may be prompted for the root password on the Radio. The default is 1234. Hopefully, the final questions: How long might this file transfer take? Seconds? Minutes? I know this is all hardware speed dependent, but if nothing appears to happen in 30 min, something is probably amiss. Will Terminal give some symbol or cursor or other indication of success? Is there some sort of 'verbose logging' to be enabled to observe the transfer progress? I do appreciate the help. ~DK dkfackler's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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You're right that it depends on the speed of the hardware, including the network. But it's only a 14MB file, so I would think it would be done in less than a minute. Certainly nowhere near 30 minutes. After the command is done, it should come back to the command prompt in the terminal. If there are errors, you should get an error message. I'm not aware of any verbose logging for scp, but it may exist. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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pippin wrote: I thought it's called WPS :) just wanted to use the OP's nomenclature and didn't see your post before writing mine. What's an OP? Percival Sweetwater's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43302 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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Percival Sweetwater wrote: What's an OP? Original Poster aka TS Tread Starter in some forums . Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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Percival Sweetwater wrote: What's an OP? Original Poster (person starting the thread) garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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I'm sorry that I am no tech wizz, but I can't figure out how to A, edit the file in the command #vi /usr/share/jive/applets/SetupFirmwareUpgrade/SetupFirmwareUpgradeMeta.lua. I;m using putty and whenever I copy that code in, nothing comes up. I also can't figure out how to upload files to my Squeezebox. Please Help!! tj3818's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59290 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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All the other steps work, but when I try to create a simlink using putty, it looks like it works, but the radio doesn't recognize the link. Please Help! tj3818's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59290 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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I'm afraid this is my first foray into Unix command lines. I have been successful in every step except for copying the 7.7.2 firmware into my UE Smartradio. I've tried #scp /Users/username/Desktop/baby_7.7.2_r9663.bin root@radioIPaddress: /dev What am I missing? dkfackler's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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dkfackler wrote: I've tried (on a Mac) #scp /Users/username/Desktop/baby_7.7.2_r9663.bin root@radioIPaddress: /dev What am I missing? What changes should I see in the /dev directory after the file copy? I'm not sure what instructions you are following -- could you provide a link? Just on the face of it, I see three things that are likely to be problems: 1) you need a real, existing directory in place of username (i.e., the directory where the firmware is located) 2) you need the correct IP address of your Radio in place of radioIPaddress 3) you shouldn't have a space between the colon and /dev After doing the file copy, the change you should see is the file baby_7.7.2_r9663.bin in the /dev directory on the Radio. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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pippin wrote: No PBC on SBR either. I promise there is. PBC, WPS - whatever it's called these days - it's an option for me on the SBR. (Check out the image below. I found it online so no need to upload a pic) http://www.logitech.com/repository/3527/jpg/28177.1.0.jpg Possibly it needs to handshake w/the router first to enable that functionality? WNDR3700 is what I have. xsqueezeme's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58901 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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Wow. Never saw that. Interesting. pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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Owen Smith wrote: Actually I hope UE Smart Radio does survive, because while it is a current product MySB and all the infrastructure to support it will continue. Once Logitech have no current product that uses any of MySB, then we have to worry about how long MySB lasts. My personal interest in MySB is only for factory reset of my three Receivers, I otherwise don't use MySB. I guess I'd be able to survive with Net-UDAP but it's a pretty hideous experience trying to use it. However I appreciate that lots of others use MySB for all sorts of things. The usual hold left arrow trick does not work taking you out of the setup mysb.com account routine on the controller ? And you don't have to factoryr reset the controller ? Must be similar to radio and Touch where people managed to dodge mysb.com during setup , now my duet is in a box I haven't done this recently . Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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No, too much hassle to let someone else write a decent add on for us. So, it's just to be a standalone internet radio for the same price as the old Squeezebox Radio? Yes. OK we're on it - sounds like a winner. ...except that the UESR cost almost twice the street price of a SBR over here in Switzerland... -- Michael ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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maggior wrote: Thanks so much for posting these step by step details! Very well written. If I find I have a hankering for another radio, this is definitely an option! An update regarding my situation - I've successfully upgraded my server to 7.7.2 and thing are running swimmingly. I also update the OS in my server and installed an SSD for the OS. Overall, it is much snappier, which may be in large part due to the server upgrades. I'm happy with how my system is running now and it's good to be running a current version of the server. At least the last version of the server software is robust. Given how poor some server versions have been, it is indeed fortunate that the final versions either 7.7.2 or the slightly later betas are reliable and fast. I haven't even got image/video scanning turned off, I've got images and videos and I use the 7.7.2 upnp plugin to serve videos over DLNA to my Oppo blu ray player. I wasn't even aware of any supposed problem until I saw this thread. I use a WHS V1 server. So the question now is whether I want a Radio. Need to think about that, I already have a Boom that I never used. I keep meaning to listen in the garden but the summer weather in the UK has been so poor for the lasy few years. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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simlu wrote: Hi Guys, First of all I'd like to share with you my disappointment with the UE Smart Radio. Shame on me I didn't read enough before buying. I was sure this little music box would be better than it's predecessor but it's quite the opposite. A lot of cool features have been removed and the one I wanted the most with the UE Smart Radio wasn't there: playing music locally using my Synology NAS. I decided to downgrade the firmware to baby 7.7.2 (r9663), thanks to some useful posts I found on this forum. So far, I've encountered no issues at all. Here's the information of my UE: simlu - I owe you a cold one! This is awesome! Kudos, mad props, etc for taking the time and effort to figure it out. I think I'm pretty smart sometimes then I find posts like this and I know that I'm not worthy! A bit of background. I too have been building up my poor-man's sonos with SBR's around the house. My most recent one purchased started failing to hold it's wifi connection while all the others in the house could. After much troubleshooting, I called it in for an RMA. They told me they'd send me a white one, as that's all they had in stock. Wasn't my choice of replacement for a black one, but ok fine send it. Next tech support email was sorry - all out - how about a UE Smart Radio instead. Being that was my only option, what could I say. The plan was to sell it on ebay and find another SBR instead, which are going up in price if you haven't noticed. Wasn't looking fwd to that, but I was invested already and couldn't back out now. Then I came across this post and now I have an SBR in UESR clothing! That was so easy to do over a cup of coffee. rant When I had to first connect the UESR to my wifi, I had to roll through my crazy long wifi encryption pswd?! Uhm, why no push button (PBC) method? Is that seriously supposed to be another enhancement to make it easier for users? After I did the downgrade and reset, the PBC option was right there and - click click connected. What are they thinking over there? Would it have been too hard to support the old firmware? Maybe offer a novice and geek mode. Or at least allow users the chance to choose the firmware they want, even if the old version is labeled as unsupported on the UESR. And wasn't there someone on the beginning of the thread who was told by tech support that it was impossible due to new hardware?! What a boatload of crap they're serving. What's the new hardware? The black preset buttons?! Ironically, that's the only real thing of value in the new radio, IMO. /rant So people - have no fear - your SBR is still here! Thanks again to simlu! :-) xsqueezeme's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58901 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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Actually I hope UE Smart Radio does survive, because while it is a current product MySB and all the infrastructure to support it will continue. Once Logitech have no current product that uses any of MySB, then we have to worry about how long MySB lasts. My personal interest in MySB is only for factory reset of my three Receivers, I otherwise don't use MySB. I guess I'd be able to survive with Net-UDAP but it's a pretty hideous experience trying to use it. However I appreciate that lots of others use MySB for all sorts of things. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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No PBC on SBR either. pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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pippin wrote: No PBC on SBR either. What is PBC? Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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pippin wrote: 3 posts up Ah the wifi thing. Got it. My confusion was that to me PBC mean PlayBack Control but that's a Video CD thing and I couldn't see the relevance of that to Squeezeboxes. The world is running out of acronyms, most have more than 2 uses (never mind one!). Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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I thought it's called WPS :) just wanted to use the OP's nomenclature and didn't see your post before writing mine. pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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I didn't realise that Logitech were planning to discontinue the Squeezebox range entirely but yes, I had noticed Logitech posters disappearing. In my naivety I had assumed that they had no time to post as they were so busy developing the next Squeezebox! Kind of makes it even more laughable though doesn't it? Let's kill Squeezebox. Lay the staff off / move to different division. Done. Hang on, shall we release a simpler Radio under the UE banner? Yes, let's do that. But most of our staff are now gone how are we to resource this? Don't worry, we'll use the existing LMS software and strip out some features to make it much simpler. What about integration with existing Squeezeboxes? No point - we want new customers. But aren't they are potential buyers of UE stuff? They'll come round and ditch their Squeezeboxes. So we are releasing a Touch UE as well then? Er, no. Are we to provide a local music server? What? No, that's old hat. Internet only is the way forward. What about people with no internet or locations that make it very unreliable? Er, well there can't be that many of them - move on. Third party apps? No, too much hassle to let someone else write a decent add on for us. So, it's just to be a standalone internet radio for the same price as the old Squeezebox Radio? Yes. OK we're on it - sounds like a winner. HeadBanger's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38024 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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pssc wrote: Id say having poured over the code there is probably less then 5% difference between the two. Excluding some new Applets for the UE for remove Music browsing most of the changes are portable back to the 7.8 series Phill. At a functional perspective it is a new productline IMHO. The fact that code is basically leached, makes it even worse...For me, this is a typical suicide product by Logitech. PS: Now I still can, a happy new year to the Logitech product marketeers! Sakkerju's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37149 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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I would not say that. A lot of bugs due to the hasty development aside it has pretty much the same functionality the SB Radio has with MySB plus some local playback attached. If you look at it from the MySB perspective (it is now really driven from the online server) there's not a lot that has changed, MySB never supported playlists and stuff. pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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pippin wrote: I would not say that. A lot of bugs due to the hasty development aside it has pretty much the same functionality the SB Radio has with MySB plus some local playback attached. If you look at it from the MySB perspective (it is now really driven from the online server) there's not a lot that has changed, MySB never supported playlists and stuff. No third party app support. No local server software. Must have an Internet connection to work. No synchronisation with Squeezeboxes instantly alienating a huge potential customer base. How can you say not a lot has changed? I'm not sure if you're saying this tongue in cheek or not! It's been over two years since a new Squeezebox was released so they've had ample time to develop something good - something worthy of succeeding a Squeezebox. Is there someone at Logitech that will put their hand up and say sorry, we got it wrong? I doubt it and unfortunately, I tend to agree that MySB.com will outlive UE. HeadBanger's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38024 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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Please read my post again. It was more like a technical description. I indeed forgot the capability to sync with other Squeezeboxes, but apart from that, none of what you mention is available without the local server. The other conscious (and clearly dumb, IMHO) decision they were making was to not allow support for 3rd party plugins (controller Apps _can_ be supported as you can see from iPeng UE) You have to see where they were coming from (and again: I'm not saying that a lot of what they actually implemented was a good idea, except for the very _idea_ of doing away with server switching, that was a wise one, which doesn't help if the implementation isn't good!) You say they had two years, but that's not the case. From what you hear, they had actually planned to shut down the product completely and only re-started development sometimes during last year, a few months before the actual UE launch. And they had already dismantled a lot of the team as you will probably have noticed on this very forum. Their idea for the restart was to simplify things, focus on online streaming media and do away with server switching. The result was that they tied the product to MySqueezebox.com and that's the functionality you see today. It's very similar to the functionality a Squeezebox has with MySqueezebox.com, that was my comment. There are almost no changes to the product itself if you look at it from that perspective. The menus look the same, work the same, the supported services are the same and work the same. OK, some things like alarms and scrobbling got broken, I have no idea how that could happen and someone forgot that the web interface on MySB might eventually get used. Hey, EVERYBODY has an iPhone or an Android, right? They _also_ added a capability, based on LMS, to play music from your own computer. That must not be confused with the capabilities the Squeezeboxes had through LMS because it's clearly isn't the same thing. The main reason for this is that - since the UE Radio runs with uesmartradio.com, not the local server - the capability had to be newly developed on the online service side. It's one of the two things they really developed (the other one being the new Apps). So again: technically, this is a Squeezebox running on MySB with some added capability to play files and albums (but not playlists) from iTunes or your files. This is _not_ a Squeezebox running with LMS. pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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Kriivari wrote: . I too am now a happy owner of a Squeezebox that looks suprisingly like a UE on the outside. UE Radio is essentially a SB Radio with different firmware. SB Radio has years of development behind it. UE is basically starting over again, software wise. toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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toby10 wrote: UE Radio is essentially a SB Radio with different firmware. SB Radio has years of development behind it. UE is basically starting over again, software wise. Id say having poured over the code there is probably less then 5% difference between the two. Excluding some new Applets for the UE for remove Music browsing most of the changes are portable back to the 7.8 series Phill. pssc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5644 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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simlu wrote: I decided to downgrade the firmware to baby 7.7.2 (r9663), thanks to some useful posts I found on this forum. So far, I've encountered no issues at all. Here's the information of my UE: Thank you so very much! I had the same issues as almost everybody else with my UE, and your instructions worked perfectly. I too am now a happy owner of a Squeezebox that looks suprisingly like a UE on the outside. Kriivari's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58877 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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simlu wrote: Hi Guys, First of all I'd like to share with you my disappointment with the UE Smart Radio. Shame on me I didn't read enough before buying. I was sure this little music box would be better than it's predecessor but it's quite the opposite. A lot of cool features have been removed and the one I wanted the most with the UE Smart Radio wasn't there: playing music locally using my Synology NAS. I decided to downgrade the firmware to baby 7.7.2 (r9663), thanks to some useful posts I found on this forum. So far, I've encountered no issues at all. Here's the information of my UE: You are a true legend, just done this on my retail UE Smart Radio and now I have a Squeezebox Radio and can get it to work how I want. Thank you. rjbathgate's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58811 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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simlu wrote: Hi Guys, First of all I'd like to share with you my disappointment with the UE Smart Radio. Shame on me I didn't read enough before buying. I was sure this little music box would be better than it's predecessor but it's quite the opposite. A lot of cool features have been removed and the one I wanted the most with the UE Smart Radio wasn't there: playing music locally using my Synology NAS. I decided to downgrade the firmware to baby 7.7.2 (r9663), thanks to some useful posts I found on this forum. So far, I've encountered no issues at all. Here's the information of my UE: Thanks so much for posting these step by step details! Very well written. If I find I have a hankering for another radio, this is definitely an option! An update regarding my situation - I've successfully upgraded my server to 7.7.2 and thing are running swimmingly. I also update the OS in my server and installed an SSD for the OS. Overall, it is much snappier, which may be in large part due to the server upgrades. I'm happy with how my system is running now and it's good to be running a current version of the server. At least the last version of the server software is robust. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
Hi Guys,
First of all I'd like to share with you my disappointment with the UE
Smart Radio. Shame on me I didn't read enough before buying. I was sure
this little music box would be better than it's predecessor but it's
quite the opposite. A lot of cool features have been removed and the one
I wanted the most with the UE Smart Radio wasn't there: playing music
locally using my Synology NAS.
I decided to downgrade the firmware to baby 7.7.2 (r9663), thanks to
some useful posts I found on this forum. So far, I've encountered no
issues at all. Here's the information of my UE:
Code:
#cat /etc/squeezeos.version
10.0.1 r16963
r...@ec2mbubld01.idc.logitech.com Thu Nov 8 09:33:51 PST 2012
Base build revision: b4b03b7fc83610c2bcd43bd71a8461768cfd2519
#cat /proc/cpuinfo
Processor : ARM926EJ-S rev 4 (v5l)
BogoMIPS: 359.62
Features: swp half thumb fastmult edsp java
CPU implementer : 0x41
CPU architecture: 5TEJ
CPU variant : 0x0
CPU part: 0x926
CPU revision: 4
Cache type : write-back
Cache clean : cp15 c7 ops
Cache lockdown : format C
Cache format: Harvard
I size : 16384
I assoc : 4
I line length : 32
I sets : 128
D size : 16384
D assoc : 4
D line length : 32
D sets : 128
Hardware: Logitech MX25 Baby Board
Revision: 0007
Serial :
UUID:
If it can be of any help for someone else, here's what I did:
1 - Start the UE Smart Radio
2 - Go into the Settings menu and press button Home and ffwd(). A new
Developers menu will appear at the bottom.
3 - Go into the Developers menu and enable remote access (SSH)
4 - Reboot the UE Smart Radio by holding down the power button and
pressing it again
5 - ssh on your smart radio (You can find the IP address somewhere in
the Settings menu) using root as the user and 1234 for the password
6 - You need to edit a lua script to add the FirmwareUpgrade option. Do
the following:
Code:
#vi /usr/share/jive/applets/SetupFirmwareUpgrade/SetupFirmwareUpgradeMeta.lua
Now find the following line
- --jiveMain:addItem(meta:menuItem('appletSetupFirmwareUpgrade',
'advancedSettings',
UPDATE, function(applet) applet:showFirmwareUpgradeMenu() end, 115))-
You need to uncomment this line by deleting the --. Type :wq! (Save
and quit)
7 - Reboot the UE Smart Radio by holding down the power button and
pressing it again
8 - Download the 7.7.2 Revision 9663 firmware
http://update.mysqueezebox.com/update/firmware/7.8.0/baby_7.7.2_r9663.bin
9 - Copy the firmware on your Smart Radio in directory /dev (using scp
or any other software) since it's the only partition with enough disk
space
10 - Create a symlink using the following command so the smart radio
sees the new firmware:
Code:
#cd /media
#ln -s /dev/baby_7.7.2_r9663.bin baby_7.7.2_r9663.bin
11 - Go in to Settings-AdvancedSettings-FirmwareUpgrade (something
like that) and do the upgrade
12 - When the squeezebox (!) has finished rebooting, you will be happy
and I strongly suggest that you do a factory reset (Go in Settings -
Advanced - Restore factory settings)
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chill wrote: Maggior - I understand your frustration, but I don't think I share your indignation. I don't believe that a manufacturer should necessarily feel any obligation to make sure that all future hardware revisions should remain compatible with all old versions of the software. It doesn't seem unreasonable to me that someone buying a new piece of hardware should be required to run an up-to-date version of the software. Aside from this philosophical point, current versions of the server software are pretty good in my experience. I was running 7.7.something with no issues, and upgraded to a 7.8 beta, also with no issues. Any manufacturer that doesn't think it's necessary is sure to piss its customer base off. With customer expectations the way they are today, that's not such a great idea. What if Apple changed the internals of their iPhone with no updates to model names or model numbers. Let's say that these new iPhones would only update and sync using the new iTunes 11 and give mysterious failure messages when they failed to update and sync. And let's say that they didn't put anything in their documentation to indicate this fact and left it up to their loyal customers to discover this and figure it out for themselves. You don't think that the customer base would become indignant? maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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maggior wrote: You don't think that the customer base would become indignant? In the case of Apple? No. At least they wouldn't admit it. alfista's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32396 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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Actually, Apple _is_ doing things like that. Maybe not exactly the same thing, but with similar effects. pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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Setting my feelings toward logitech aside, I wanted to thank those that helped me figure out the situation with my squeezebox Radio. Thanks to you guys, I have it working and am comfortable that I understand the situation with it and know what it is compatable with. One thing that has remained constant throughout the entire squeezebox product life - the community here is amazingly helpful and a pleasure to be a part of. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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chill wrote: Aside from this philosophical point, current versions of the server software are pretty good in my experience. I was running 7.7.something with no issues, and upgraded to a 7.8 beta, also with no issues. My feeling is that 7.7.2 is the best release since 7.5.5, at least as long as you disable image/video scanning. 7.7.2 have some advantages and some disadvantages compared to 7.5.5, so it depends on how you use it if 7.5.5 or 7.7.2 works best. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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erland wrote: My feeling is that 7.7.2 is the best release since 7.5.5, at least as long as you disable image/video scanning. 7.7.2 have some advantages and some disadvantages compared to 7.5.5, so it depends on how you use it if 7.5.5 or 7.7.2 works best. That's good to know and gives me some confidence in upgrading. Thanks Erland! maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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maggior wrote: That's good to know and gives me some confidence in upgrading. Thanks Erland! +1. I use 7.7.2 on two windows machines and also in two linux (vortexbox) machines. No issues with my own music (70,000 flac files takes about an hour to scan and an older library with 206,000 lossy files takes a bit less than 4 hours to scan). Most have artwork. All works smoothly and I also use various plugins (most of erlands stuff related to dynamic playlists, etc.), scrobbling, various apps (mog, sirriusXM, etc.). My setups run for months at a time without a reboot. Only time i'm rebooting system is do do an update, etc. knock on wood, rock solid for me. garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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Given that the Radio was the only squeezebox type I didn't own (well, I don't have a transporter either ;-) and they were on Amazon in a fire sale ($99!), I picked one up. Of course it's giving me nothing but trouble out of the box :-(. It plays fine through mysb.com, but it won't play from my local server. I suspect this is because it won't downgrade the firware to my local version. It seems to have come with later firmware. I'm running 7.5.5 for my server. I managed to connect it to mysb.com and upgrade it to the firmware there. But, when I try to connect it to my local server, it fails to update the firmware. It starts and immediately fails. Is there a way to manually upgrade the firmware like could be done with the controller? Can the process described here be used to do this? Is this a common issue? I have to say I'm impressed with the hardware itself - very solid feeling. Once I can get it to play music, I can comment on the sound quality :-). Thanks! maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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maggior wrote: Given that the Radio was the only squeezebox type I didn't own (well, I don't have a transporter either ;-) and they were on Amazon in a fire sale ($99!), I picked one up. Of course it's giving me nothing but trouble out of the box :-(. It plays fine through mysb.com, but it won't play from my local server. I suspect this is because it won't downgrade the firware to my local version. It seems to have come with later firmware. I'm running 7.5.5 for my server. I managed to connect it to mysb.com and upgrade it to the firmware there. But, when I try to connect it to my local server, it fails to update the firmware. It starts and immediately fails. Is there a way to manually upgrade the firmware like could be done with the controller? Can the process described here be used to do this? Is this a common issue? I have to say I'm impressed with the hardware itself - very solid feeling. Once I can get it to play music, I can comment on the sound quality :-). Thanks! You could check the hardware revision as per earlier post in this tread , there could possibly be a case of very late revisions of Radio not being able to run to old fw ? ? Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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Tried just dismissing the firmware update/downgrade on LMS? Left or Home button? toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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I've tried that, but it behaves strangely. The radio doesn't show up in the list of players on the web page. it will let me browse my music library and appears to play when I play something, but no sound comes out of the speaker. Since there is a mismatch between the server and player firmware, I figure I should resolve that before I conclude there is some other problem. It plays Rhapsody fine from mysb.com, so it all seems like a software problem to me. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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maggior wrote: It seems to have come with later firmware. I'm running 7.5.5 for my server. I managed to connect it to mysb.com and upgrade it to the firmware there. But, when I try to connect it to my local server, it fails to update the firmware. It starts and immediately fails. As I've understood the UE Smart Radio is unlikely to work with any Squeezebox firmware prior to 7.7, so I'm afraid you probably have to upgrade your server to be able to use the downgraded UE Smart Radio with local music. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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I don't have a UE smart radio, it's a squeezebox radio. I may have confused people because this thread is indeed about downgrading the UE smart radio. The only reason I posted here was I wanted to know if the manual firmware update procedure described here would be applicable to moving a squeezebox radio to a different FW version. I will be bummed if it turns out that the radio that I have is not compatable with 7.5.5. Tonight I will gather information on the hardware version. Perhaps it is a case that even though it isn't a UE smart radio, it essentially is due to the hardware revs. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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maggior wrote: I don't have a UE smart radio, it's a squeezebox radio. I may have confused people because this thread is indeed about downgrading the UE smart radio. The only reason I posted here was I wanted to know if the manual firmware update procedure described here would be applicable to moving a squeezebox radio to a different FW version. I will be bummed if it turns out that the radio that I have is not compatable with 7.5.5. Tonight I will gather information on the hardware version. Perhaps it is a case that even though it isn't a UE smart radio, it essentially is due to the hardware revs. If it's a Radio purchased this year it likely have the same issues as UE Smart Radio. If it's an older Radio it should work to just connect it to an older Squeezebox Server version and if that doesn't work the manual downgrade procedure should work. Check the hardware revision by login via ssh and run: cat /proc/cpuinfo The hardware revision is listed at the end, something like this: Hardware: Logitech MX25 Baby Board Revision: 0005 If Revision is 0007 the Radio will likely only work with 7.7 firmware, but if it's 0005 or lower you should be able to downgrade it manually. If manual downgrade directly to 7.5.5 doesn't work, you can try to do it in steps, you will find the firmware files here: http://update.mysqueezebox.com/update/firmware/ erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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Simple test, run LMS 7.7.2 on a different computer (i.e. not the computer currently running your LMS 7.5), connect Radio to LMS 7.7.2, see if it connects. It won't update/downgrade cuz 7.7.2 is what your Radio currently has, having been connected to MySB.com. toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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erland wrote: If it's a Radio purchased this year it likely have the same issues as UE Smart Radio. If it's an older Radio it should work to just connect it to an older Squeezebox Server version and if that doesn't work the manual downgrade procedure should work. Check the hardware revision by login via ssh and run: cat /proc/cpuinfo The hardware revision is listed at the end, something like this: Hardware : Logitech MX25 Baby Board Revision : 0005 If Revision is 0007 the Radio will likely only work with 7.7 firmware, but if it's 0005 or lower you should be able to downgrade it manually. If manual downgrade directly to 7.5.5 doesn't work, you can try to do it in steps, you will find the firmware files here: http://update.mysqueezebox.com/update/firmware/ Thanks erland. You say the Radio will likely only work Do we have confirmation of this? It would be good to have a definitive answer on this to save other needlessly thrashing about trying to get something that won't work to work. It's always an adventure :-). Regarding tob10's suggestion - I do have a second system running lms as an experiment for my 2 logitech revues (another fun adventure!). I'll see what happens if I try to connect to it. By the time I thought to do that last night, I had just had enough and gave up. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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Well, I can definitely tell you about people who tried it (with a Squeezebox Radio) and it didn't work. The problem is that the radio pulls the update but then crashes on install so you've got a semi-brick and need to do a firmware reset. Logitech needs to communicate that, IMHO, it must give them a lot of sent-back devices of users who don't know what's going on and use an old server. It's a big mistake to not change the model name because this way the new devices will just automatically download and install an incompatible firmware if you just connect them to an old server. And nothing tells you that this would cause trouble, Kind of an auto-brick feature. pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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Thanks pippin. I'm finding that it won't auto brick when you try to connect it to an older server, it just immediately fails with no details as to why. If I find that it is the new hardware, I won't waste my time trying to manually downgrade to the older firmware - I don't need to deal with unbricking my radio. I will consider upgrading to LMS for my main server. Other than that, Amazon is really great with returns :-). This a nice parting blow to us squeezebox users! Unbelievable...you can't even make this stuff up. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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Well, I think they just didn't think about it when bringing in the new hardware revision. Remember,mist always been a Slimdevices (even before Logitech times) philosophy that you should always use the latest server version with your device and match up firmware and server. I've been trying to tell them for years that its eventually going to hurt if your devices are not compatible to different server versions on the protocol level. Would eventually have become a real issue with the App hadn't they discontinued the platform, it's unbelievable how much code I have in iPeng just to cope with different server versions. Now all of that paid off nicely when doing iPeng UE, because UE works fine with my legacy code where it did not with the one for the current generation of LMS :) pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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pippin wrote: Well, I think they just didn't think about it when bringing in the new hardware revision. Remember,mist always been a Slimdevices (even before Logitech times) philosophy that you should always use the latest server version with your device and match up firmware and server. I thought that was the reason for the automatic fw upgrades/downgrades based on the server version - you were guaranteed to be running FW compatable with the server software. There, all they had to do was make sure that the interfaces required for upgrading/downgrading fw were front and backward compatable. I can see how it would be a nightmare and restrictive if you had to maintain full backward compatability to run any FW with any server. I'm realistic and don't expect the new radio FW to work with an old version of the server. What I do expect to work is the ability to automatically load the appropriate FW version for the server version I'm running. I've never encountered an issue with this until now. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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I speculate that the last production run of Radio realy is the UE hardware , they just did not care the match the transition . Given that Logitech does not care for user with a local server anymoore and mysqueezebox.com is always up to date . I think someone took a shortcut and hoped a small run of not really radios would just pass by unseen :) Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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pippin wrote: Oh, then try to run a, say, Touch or Radio, with SqueezeCenter 7.3. Same thing, they don't work because there _is_ no working firmware for these devices and this server version. The one thing that's worse here is that you can't really distinguish the devices and nobody tells you and that not even the server knows that there's an incompatible player connecting. That I know - I certainly don't expect hardware that didn't exist when particular versions of server software were made to work. When new hardware would come out, you would have to upgrade to the new version of server software. The Radio has been around for years - certainly before 7.5.5 was released. I see where you are coming from - as an app you didn't have the luxury of saying my app only works with current/latest versions of squeezebox server. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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Yes. But also: this is what you've got here, too: it's a new hardware that only works with the server version available when it came to, it's just that you can't immediately see that it's a new hardware. pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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pippin wrote: Yes. But also: this is what you've got here, too: it's a new hardware that only works with the server version available when it came to, it's just that you can't immediately see that it's a new hardware. That is truely evil if that is what is really going on! Ugh!! I'm starting to regret buying this Radio :-). maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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So my SB Radio is revision 0007 per a cat of /proc/cpuinfo. ...sigh... Sorry, but I'm going to vent... This absolutely ludicrous!! I don't care what actual hardware exists inside the box, it is a squeezebox radio (says so right on the case!). It's not a Radio Rev. 2, it's not a UE Smart Radio. It SHOULD support whatever software was designed to support the Radio. I find myself not feeling so bad about the demise of the squeezebox - this is just absurd. Sorry to the developers still working on this stuff - I'm sure it's not your fault, this smells of mismanagement. Talk about fodder for Scott Adams in his Dilbert strip! I will give LMS 7.7.2 (or whatever the latest is) a try. If I find there are issues using ALL of my other squeezeboxes with it, my Radio will quickly go back in it's box back to Amazon. It's just not worth it! Thankfully I didn't suggest my friend at work get a Radio - he got a Grace digital radio instead. Now I don't feel bad that I didn't suggest the Radio. OK, vent done. For those of you that may stumble on this thread, here's the deal. If you have a new squeezebox radio and it will update to the FW on mysb.com, but will not update to the version you run locally that is older than 7.7.2, you will have no choice but to upgrade to 7.7.2 of LMS. What you attempt the FW update to something 7.7.2, it will appear to start at 0%, and immediately fail. When it fails, the wifi icon will briefly turn to red and back to white. No matter what you do, it just won't update. Confirm this by ssh'ing into your radio and cat'ing /proc/cpuinfo. If you see revision 0007 at the end, you are definitely in this boat. If you attempt to play music with the newer FW on the radio with your 7.7.2 server, it will appear to play, but no sound will come out. Navigating menus will be slow. You try to reconnect to mysb.com and it will restart itself and upon reboot will send a crash report to logitech. Now you connect to mysb.com and it works as it should. Great stuff eh? You just can't make this stuff up. It's like Logitech is holding up its middle finger at us as they close the door to the squeezebox. Thanks a bunch guys, really appreciate it! (guess the rant wasn't quite done yet ;-). maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
Two things: I have seen worse server versions than 7.7.2, if you want all the bugs out, try 7.3 beta or 7.8 beta (this may have other bugs but I'm quite happy with it myself). The important part is to turn off the scanning for images and videos (no, this has nothing to do with album artwork) if you want it reliable. And then (although this is really nitpicking): the 7.7.x firmware will probably also work with a 7.6 server, just not with 7.5 or older. pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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Jonvw wrote: I used the steps outlined at http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?96256-Upgrade-SB-Radio-to-UE-Radiop=725564viewfull=1#post725564 . I also had to uncomment a line in /usr/share/jive/applets/SetupFirmwareUpgrade/SetupFirmwareUpgradeMeta.lua to reveal the Update Software option in the Advanced settings menu.jonvw, everything working well with your 'downgraded' UE Smart Radio? Has anyone else tried this? I'm eager to do the downgrade but the coward in me wants to learn from the brave ones who've gone before me. Thanks. ShutterShock's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3602 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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Everything is still working normally. I never had an off-the-shelf SB radio, but everything behaves the way I would expect it to. It connects to LMS 7.62 and MySB, which both see it as a Radio. As far as I can tell, it is in every sense a SB Radio except for the logo on the front. Jonvw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58340 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
Jonvw wrote: Using the instructions in the other thread, I was able to downgrade a UE Smart Radio purchased in a store to a SB Radio. Easy peasy, no hiccups. Does your light sensor work? Looking at the source code that part seems to have changed, ie screen dimming and lighting etc... Phill. pssc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5644 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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pssc wrote: Does your light sensor work? Looking at the source code that part seems to have changed, ie screen dimming and lighting etc... Phill. It works, in that it brightens when the room gets lighter. It does seem a little bit choppy, in that the brightness doesn't fade in and out but jumps to the appropriate level. I never noticed how it worked before, though. Jonvw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58340 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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Another data piont . Hardware: Logitech MX25 Baby Board Revision: 0004 # cat /proc/modules ar6000 142748 0 - Live 0xbf00 This my slightly old radio running Squeezebox fw. Older hw ,the diff in modules may have another explanation it's maybe diffrent running UE . This the differences compared to Erlands nwer radio Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
erland wrote: The command Code: cat /proc/cpuinfo on my Radios's lists two rows at the end of the output saying: Code: Hardware: Logitech MX25 Baby Board Revision: 0005 If anyone have a UE Smart Radio is willing to try to run cat /proc/cpuinfo and see what Revision it reports we can confirm it. If it says 7, that's probably a fairly strong indication that the above mentioned firmware changes is needed to make the firmware work properly, which means you need 7.7.2 or later firmware. On my UE Smart Radio the command Code: cat /proc/cpuinfo outputs this: Code: Processor : ARM926EJ-S rev 4 (v5l) BogoMIPS: 359.62 Features: swp half thumb fastmult edsp java CPU implementer : 0x41 CPU architecture: 5TEJ CPU variant : 0x0 CPU part: 0x926 CPU revision: 4 Cache type : write-back Cache clean : cp15 c7 ops Cache lockdown : format C Cache format: Harvard I size : 16384 I assoc : 4 I line length : 32 I sets : 128 D size : 16384 D assoc : 4 D line length : 32 D sets : 128 Hardware: Logitech MX25 Baby Board Revision: 0007 Serial : removed UUID: removed So as far as I understand, downgrading will actually work. That is GREAT news indeed! frussqueeze's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
Using the instructions in the other thread, I was able to downgrade a UE Smart Radio purchased in a store to a SB Radio. Easy peasy, no hiccups. Jonvw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58340 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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Excellent! didjean's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2900 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
Jonvw wrote: Using the instructions in the other thread, I was able to downgrade a UE Smart Radio purchased in a store to a SB Radio. Easy peasy, no hiccups. cool! Thanks for reporting back. bluegaspode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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That's indeed really good to know :) pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
didjean wrote: Excellent! Which instructions have you followed ? I used the steps outlined at http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?96256-Upgrade-SB-Radio-to-UE-Radiop=725564viewfull=1#post725564 . I also had to uncomment a line in /usr/share/jive/applets/SetupFirmwareUpgrade/SetupFirmwareUpgradeMeta.lua to reveal the Update Software option in the Advanced settings menu. Jonvw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58340 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
pippin wrote: I don't think there will be dramatic differences between the hardware. One thing you should be aware of, though (and which I just learned) is that Logitech seems to have started selling a 2nd revision of the Radio sometimes this year. For this revision, only firmware versions for LMS 7.7.1 and newer are available, I'd guess this is likely also what's in the UE Radio pippin, can you point me to more information about this Radio revision? I'm having trouble loading firmware 7.5.1 on my new Radio, but if I can verify via the serial number or some other information that I have one of the 2nd revision of the Radio that refer to, then I will give up my attempts. rich.herbs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58334 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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Well, there were definitely variations even before. I do have two radios (both older) that have completely different display lighting. The newer one (of these two) REALLY sucks at this. AFAIK the light sensor did change in some hardware revision, indeed. -- Michael ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
erland wrote: Ok, that at least indicates that the kernel is the same both for UE Smart Radio and for an upgraded Squeezebox Radio. If I on my upgraded run Code: cat /etc/squeezeos.version It reports Code: 10.0.1 r16963 r...@ec2mbubld01.idc.logitech.com Thu Nov 8 09:33:51 PST 2012 Base build revision: b4b03b7fc83610c2bcd43bd71a8461768cfd2519 Is this also the same on yours ? If that part also is exactly the same, it's indication that not just the kernel but the whole lower level operating system is the same. Some other things to compare are: Code: cat /proc/bus/input/devices Which on mine gives: Code: I: Bus=0019 Vendor= Product= Version= N: Name=mxckpd P: Phys= S: Sysfs=/class/input/input0 U: Uniq= H: Handlers=kbd event0 B: EV=3 B: KEY=8000 38 4000 240 4001 f800 1 I: Bus=0019 Vendor= Product= Version= N: Name=front panel P: Phys= S: Sysfs=/class/input/input1 U: Uniq= H: Handlers=kbd event1 B: EV=3 B: KEY=120400 0 0 0 I: Bus= Vendor= Product= Version= N: Name=msp430 P: Phys= S: Sysfs=/class/input/input2 U: Uniq= H: Handlers=event2 B: EV=35 B: REL=300 B: MSC=8 B: SW=2 And Code: cat /proc/modules Which gives: Code: ar6000 142684 0 - Live 0xbf00 And Code: cat /proc/devices Which gives: Code: Character devices: 1 mem 4 /dev/vc/0 4 tty 5 /dev/tty 5 /dev/console 5 /dev/ptmx 7 vcs 10 misc 13 input 14 sound 29 fb 90 mtd 116 alsa 128 ptm 136 pts 207 ttymxc 252 imx_adc 253 ubi0 254 rtc Block devices: 1 ramdisk 7 loop 31 mtdblock In the end, the more similarities there are, the bigger chance that a manual downgrade might work. But the first UE Smart Radio customer who tries to downgrade to Squeezebox firmware is always going to take a risk as long as we can't a confirmation from someone from Logitech. If on my UE Radio I run: Code: cat /etc/squeezeos.version It gives Code: 10.0.1 r16963 r...@ec2mbubld01.idc.logitech.com Thu Nov 8 09:33:51 PST 2012 Base build revision: b4b03b7fc83610c2bcd43bd71a8461768cfd2519 then Code: cat /proc/bus/input/devices gives: Code: I: Bus=0019 Vendor= Product= Version= N: Name=mxckpd P: Phys= S: Sysfs=/class/input/input0 U: Uniq= H: Handlers=kbd event0 B: EV=3 B: KEY=8000 38 4000 240 4001 f800 1 I: Bus=0019 Vendor= Product= Version= N: Name=front panel P: Phys= S: Sysfs=/class/input/input1 U: Uniq= H: Handlers=kbd event1 B: EV=3 B: KEY=120400 0 0 0 I: Bus= Vendor= Product= Version= N: Name=msp430 P: Phys= S: Sysfs=/class/input/input2 U: Uniq= H: Handlers=event2 B: EV=35 B: REL=300 B: MSC=8 B: SW=2 then Code: cat /proc/modules gives: Code: ar6000 142684 0 - Live 0xbf00 then Code: cat /proc/devices gives: Code: Character devices: 1 mem 4 /dev/vc/0 4 tty 5 /dev/tty 5 /dev/console 5 /dev/ptmx 7 vcs 10 misc 13 input 14 sound 29 fb 90 mtd 116 alsa 128 ptm 136 pts 207 ttymxc 252 imx_adc 253 ubi0 254 rtc Block devices: 1 ramdisk 7 loop 31 mtdblock I think they are all the same no?? frussqueeze's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
Today I had a lengthy conversation with Logitech customer support and tech services. Bad news. This new UE hardware is 'improved' and (they say) is drastically different than previous one, they even gave the example of flashing fridge software to television, so this case is closed for me. They say the hardware is a 'stripped down' version, I've no idea what that exactly means. If I try to flash old firmware it would almost certainly 'brick' it they claim. I don't know somebody who can return this should try that. Returning this item from Europe to US will cost about 50$ in postage, so it's not logical for me to try. If I was in US I would definitely try it. I look at it this way, I was scammed by Logitech and ended up throwing away 179$+tax to garbage as this piece of hardware is useless in a boat environment where there is no internet access. There SHOULD HAVE BEEN a clear warning on the item stating the incompatibility with previous line of devices. The look is the exactly the same! only name is different, that is why I call I've been scammed. No connection possible to SBT on the boat, plus my home server is on a NAS and tech support said there is no NAS support neither. BE VERY VERY CAREFUL on your next Logitech purchase, this clearly draw the line for me, never again!. frussqueeze's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
frussqueeze wrote: Today I had a lengthy conversation with Logitech customer support and tech services. Bad news. This new UE hardware is 'improved' and (they say) is drastically different than previous one, they even gave the example of flashing fridge software to television, so this case is closed for me. They say the hardware is a 'stripped down' version, I've no idea what that exactly means. If I try to flash old firmware it would almost certainly 'brick' it they claim. I don't know somebody who can return this should try that. Returning this item from Europe to US will cost about 50$ in postage, so it's not logical for me to try. If I was in US I would definitely try it. I look at it this way, I was scammed by Logitech and ended up throwing away 179$+tax to garbage as this piece of hardware is useless in a boat environment where there is no internet access. There SHOULD HAVE BEEN a clear warning on the item stating the incompatibility with previous line of devices. The look is the exactly the same! only name is different, that is why I call I've been scammed. No connection possible to SBT on the boat, plus my home server is on a NAS and tech support said there is no NAS support neither. BE VERY VERY CAREFUL on your next Logitech purchase, this clearly draw the line for me, never again!. So are you going to ebay, hack or return? Logitech tech support have little or no idea about whatÂ’s really going on the platform. Phill. pssc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5644 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
