[RBW] Re: VO 50.4 BCD Crankset is here
Most of my bikes have 180mm cranks now. The Quickbeam came withgasp!...175s! Couldn't really tell the difference. A wider Q I can feel, crank length...not so much. Some BMX bikes (used to at least) come with 185mm cranks...they seemed to have a greater range of crank lengths than other types of bicycles do. Angus On Aug 21, 10:27 pm, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: I'm going with Eric on this one. I have bikes with both 170 and 175 and can't tell any difference at all. Maybe we share a similar riding style. There are areas where a lack of sensitivity simplifies life. dougP On Aug 21, 6:07 pm, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Well, I'm 6' nuthin' and my bikes have 170, 175 and 180 cranks. Didn't realize the last one until looking at my Fargo one day and realizing it had these really long crank arms. Never even noticed the difference. Funny enough, my one century is on the bike with too longa cranks. Probably means that my riding style is sufficiently poor that things like that go unnoticed, but it sure makes buying replacement cranks easy. What length do you want? Whaver you have that's cheapest. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Aug 21, 8:17 am, Cycletex clifwrightpho...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks for posting that. As a tall rider I've never tried long cranks. As it happens, I take delivery of a custom bike next week with 185mm TA cranks. I'm almost hoping that they're not all that. My other three bikes with 175's are going to be quite costly to convert if they are. On Aug 21, 7:13 am, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: In regards to longer cranks, there's a lot of unfounded fear and mis- information that gets spread . Longer cranks don't hurt your knees, or slow your cadence, or ruin your pedal motion. Resistance domes from fear of change fear of the unknown. We all experience it. There's 3 groups about longer cranks. Those that have tried them and found them invaluable. Those that try them and didn't like them. Those that talk about them but never tried them. I refer to this http://www.nettally.com/palmk/crwives.html-Hidequoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: I finished an Yves Gomez for my wife
William, We put a child stoker kit on the back of our tandem...and found that little kids can virtually fall asleep and yet not fall off the bike. Angus On Aug 21, 11:29 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the kind words. My two kids (9 and 7 years old) have gotten really enthusiastic about cycling, which has motivated my wife to be into it as well. Humorous aside about my daughter. She learned to ride without training wheels just this summer. We did an intensive session on our vacation Quote from Day 2 of Vacation: Daddy, I want to keep my training wheels until I'm 20 Quote from Day 4 of Vacation: Daddy! I can't believe I'm riding my bike without training wheels! I never want to stop riding my bike! My son asks about once a week for me to check if his legs are long enough to be my stoker on the tandem. The only hiccup with the build has been the front derailleur. I've done three Riv builds this year, and the front derailleur has been an adventure with all three. On this Yves I used a Suntour X-1, which fit nicely and the curvature is good for the rings, but the return spring is too strong for the Cheapie Thumb Shifters. No matter how tight you crank the tension screw on the shifter, it wanders out. I have a SRAM that I'll try next. On Aug 20, 2:19 pm, Powderpiggy ke...@mid-columbia-coho.net wrote: That's awesome. I love it. I actually have a Yves Gomez on order from Riv and hope to see it on my doorstep within the month. So this was kind of like a sneak peek of what is to come. Glad to know I will not be the only female riding the 'international mans mixte' Keely On Aug 20, 12:31 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I've finished setting up my wife's mixte. It's turned out quite nicely. 52cm Yves Gomez. She's adjusting to the Albatross bars, but so far so good. She wanted a black and tan looking bike and has no qualms about having her decals say International Mens Mixte. The rack that we use with the Burley Piccolo is also powder coated black so it looks right at home. In fact, I've been thinking of setting up a 58cm mixte for myself and I prefer the baby blue. Anyway, shots in my flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758...@n04/4910562571/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bullmoose at last!!
Those bars look great! And while you may have issues with the tape job I think the bars are not the kind of bars that demand a perfectly symmetrical or perfectly regular grip appearance. In fact, the bars seem to want worn-out tape with loose threads or some well-broken-in- and-faded leather! (Though I wouldn't recommend using leather tape there if you'll want to get it perfect. A couple of re-do wraps with leather tape can get costly fast!) Do you think you'll keep them at 66cm? I'm not a small guy and that sounds wide even for me. Don't get me wrong, I like wide bars. I switched from 54cm albatross bars to 56cm because the 54cm bars felt too narrow. But man 66cm sounds verily wide! I'm getting some bullmoose bars soon. Of course I'll try them wide. And I'll probably love it; they'll make a change from any other bar I've ever ridden, that's for sure. Oh, and I have experienced the wrap-back phenomenon with the Newbaum's as well. I've also had the backing come away from the tape incompletely. For me neither problem was major, though my relative lack of perfectionism may color that judgment. I think it's the best looking, best feeling tape I've ever had or seen. So for my money it's worth the slight trouble. I hope RBW continues to carry it. I love the colors, too. Enjoy wheeling that rig around! Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On Aug 21, 6:51 pm, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: Rivendell finally got some dull-brite 150mm Bullmoose bars in stock and I got myself a set. Came yesterday and on the bike today. I absolutely love them. The sweepback is perfect and counters the long tt that Bridgestone bikes had. On a side note I used some of the new Newbaum's cloth tape and while the description says easy to wrap I found it to be not as easy as other cloth tape. It is extra sticky and tends to want to wrap around itself and stick to itself. It took me a long time and I still am not happy with the wrap I got. I am a bit OCD and usually do a pretty good job with my tape wrapping. As you can see from the photos this wrap is far from perfect. http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii31/Johnny_Alien/1993%20Bridgesto... http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii31/Johnny_Alien/1993%20Bridgesto... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Please bring back the MUSA saddle cover
Just went to order two more of these, and found to my shock that they were no more. I understand the rationale of going to the Aardvark (don't have to order 300 at a time), and in fact the Aardvark was my favorite cover before Riv ever started carrying it. But last year I tried the MUSA, and was completely sold. Best functioning seat cover ever. Period. And best looking. What's the problem with the Aardvark? The elastic dies within the year, and one day your seat cover will slip off with nary a word as you stand to climb a rise, and you won't notice until you are miles down the road. So you can't even return it for a defect in materials. Maybe I am asking too much from a seat cover, but I don't want them to be semi-disposable items. How about you? Second issue with the Aardvark: If you have saddles with copper rivets, and the rivets weren't hammered with perfectly downward- curling edges, those edges will chew holes into the cushy but not sturdy neoprene in no time. The Aardvark ain't bad, but it just isn't Rivendell-durable. Cheers, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Renovelo Frames
On Aug 21, 4:01 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: and the listing for THE ONE is now gone. Best of luck to the lucky individual that bought it. Yup, as of 5:00pm Friday it was sold. I agonized over it alll day Saturday and was somewhat relieved to find out it was no longer available. The last thing I need is another bike, but that one really called out to me. Ted Durant -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bullmoose at last!!
The width is perfect. I didn't give cutting them one thought after the test run. I can easily see them becoming a favorite bar for me. On Aug 22, 7:14 am, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: Those bars look great! And while you may have issues with the tape job I think the bars are not the kind of bars that demand a perfectly symmetrical or perfectly regular grip appearance. In fact, the bars seem to want worn-out tape with loose threads or some well-broken-in- and-faded leather! (Though I wouldn't recommend using leather tape there if you'll want to get it perfect. A couple of re-do wraps with leather tape can get costly fast!) Do you think you'll keep them at 66cm? I'm not a small guy and that sounds wide even for me. Don't get me wrong, I like wide bars. I switched from 54cm albatross bars to 56cm because the 54cm bars felt too narrow. But man 66cm sounds verily wide! I'm getting some bullmoose bars soon. Of course I'll try them wide. And I'll probably love it; they'll make a change from any other bar I've ever ridden, that's for sure. Oh, and I have experienced the wrap-back phenomenon with the Newbaum's as well. I've also had the backing come away from the tape incompletely. For me neither problem was major, though my relative lack of perfectionism may color that judgment. I think it's the best looking, best feeling tape I've ever had or seen. So for my money it's worth the slight trouble. I hope RBW continues to carry it. I love the colors, too. Enjoy wheeling that rig around! Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On Aug 21, 6:51 pm, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: Rivendell finally got some dull-brite 150mm Bullmoose bars in stock and I got myself a set. Came yesterday and on the bike today. I absolutely love them. The sweepback is perfect and counters the long tt that Bridgestone bikes had. On a side note I used some of the new Newbaum's cloth tape and while the description says easy to wrap I found it to be not as easy as other cloth tape. It is extra sticky and tends to want to wrap around itself and stick to itself. It took me a long time and I still am not happy with the wrap I got. I am a bit OCD and usually do a pretty good job with my tape wrapping. As you can see from the photos this wrap is far from perfect. http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii31/Johnny_Alien/1993%20Bridgesto... http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii31/Johnny_Alien/1993%20Bridgesto... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Review Instructions for Snobbish Nitto SP-60 Seat Post
I am a bit lost on this as well. While they look great I always thought the two part seatposts of the past were a bad design decision. Past nostalgia what would be the benefit of this post? On Aug 21, 11:24 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Can't see what the fuss is over the SP 60,though -- looks like a bad old design resurrected in better quality. Sadly, good taste has become all too rare in this 21st Century. For those of carrying the flame, there is now the SP-60. Which is, by the way, the topic of this thread. On Aug 21, 9:44 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Bob: I've got the earlier aluminum DA posts on two Rivs; even with their considerable setback I have to use a mallet to get my Flites far back enough (yes, I ought to have listened to Grant long ago when he counseled a 72* st; but mine are 73*) and the clamp grips the front part of the cradle with just mm of contact (no problems over many years, but ...). Does the S 83 have more setback than the DAs? Can't see what the fuss is over the SP 60,though -- looks like a bad old design resurrected in better quality. Thanks. On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Bob Cooper robertcoo...@frontiernet.net wrote: I ordered a Nitto S-83 quite some time ago, and this week I got around to installing it, mating the Atlantis to the Brooks Team Pro. As I was lubing and assembling the ensemble, I was struck by the fact that this was the finest seatpost I had ever installed. Better than my Dura-Ace, Synchros, Easton, Suntour XC Pro, Suntour Superbe Pro, American Classic or even the Nitto S-65 of which I think I have three and the Thompson Elite of which I have three. None of these is junk, but the S-83 is better. How do they do it? A masterpiece of design and execution. Bob Cooper -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Please bring back the MUSA saddle cover
Gernot, you might want to check-out the saddle covers made by Randi Jo Fabrications, they really nice with some great featrues. https://www.randijofab.com/products/saddle-covers --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Review Instructions for Snobbish Nitto SP-60 Seat Post
...what would be the benefit of this post? Historically, from a practical POV, the clamp went with the saddle and the post went with the frame. Lots of frames were manufactured without standardized seat tube IDs. The plain post would be very inexpensive to manufacture in a plethora of sized. Lots of saddles were sold with the clamp. Some saddles had more than two rails. Et cetera. So, in the past, the two-part design had a purpose. Bob Who's Getting Old Fast Cooper -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Review Instructions for Snobbish Nitto SP-60 Seat Post
Yes, but it's not nearly as nice as the other, more modern Nitto seatposts or, for that matter, my Dura Aces and old Simplex (think it's Simplex) -- whence my question. On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 9:24 PM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Can't see what the fuss is over the SP 60,though -- looks like a bad old design resurrected in better quality. Sadly, good taste has become all too rare in this 21st Century. For those of carrying the flame, there is now the SP-60. Which is, by the way, the topic of this thread. Patrick Moore, *Resolutely* bottom trimming. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Review Instructions for Snobbish Nitto SP-60 Seat Post
I am old enough to remember when the LaPrad type of post was called a micro-adjust post because it didn't have the coarse serrations of the old, separate-type clamp. *And* you bet you don't get as much setback with that old kind of post. I think it's a quirky, nostalgia, be different type of accessory, a taste for which I can sympathize (but which I recognize as style, not function or even necessarily aesthetics). On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: I am a bit lost on this as well. While they look great I always thought the two part seatposts of the past were a bad design decision. Past nostalgia what would be the benefit of this post? On Aug 21, 11:24 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Can't see what the fuss is over the SP 60,though -- looks like a bad old design resurrected in better quality. Sadly, good taste has become all too rare in this 21st Century. For those of carrying the flame, there is now the SP-60. Which is, by the way, the topic of this thread. On Aug 21, 9:44 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Bob: I've got the earlier aluminum DA posts on two Rivs; even with their considerable setback I have to use a mallet to get my Flites far back enough (yes, I ought to have listened to Grant long ago when he counseled a 72* st; but mine are 73*) and the clamp grips the front part of the cradle with just mm of contact (no problems over many years, but ...). Does the S 83 have more setback than the DAs? Can't see what the fuss is over the SP 60,though -- looks like a bad old design resurrected in better quality. Thanks. On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Bob Cooper robertcoo...@frontiernet.net wrote: I ordered a Nitto S-83 quite some time ago, and this week I got around to installing it, mating the Atlantis to the Brooks Team Pro. As I was lubing and assembling the ensemble, I was struck by the fact that this was the finest seatpost I had ever installed. Better than my Dura-Ace, Synchros, Easton, Suntour XC Pro, Suntour Superbe Pro, American Classic or even the Nitto S-65 of which I think I have three and the Thompson Elite of which I have three. None of these is junk, but the S-83 is better. How do they do it? A masterpiece of design and execution. Bob Cooper -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Review Instructions for Snobbish Nitto SP-60 Seat Post
Past nostalgia what would be the benefit of this post? Aesthetics and nostalgia are two different things. Assuming the seat clamp is well made (if not, Brompton makes a very nice one now), it is quite a stretch to say it is a bad design. The design got a bad rap mainly because the seat clamps - which were spec'd and sold by the saddle manufacturer were junk. The aesthetic is not for everyone, nor, as we see above, will the S-60 work on every bike. I have Thomson, Nitto, CLB, classic Campy Super Record, and a horde of old Simplex, Atom and other no name French seat posts. I am really looking forward to taking possession of the modern Nitto iteration. On Aug 22, 8:28 am, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: I am a bit lost on this as well. While they look great I always thought the two part seatposts of the past were a bad design decision. Past nostalgia what would be the benefit of this post? On Aug 21, 11:24 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Can't see what the fuss is over the SP 60,though -- looks like a bad old design resurrected in better quality. Sadly, good taste has become all too rare in this 21st Century. For those of carrying the flame, there is now the SP-60. Which is, by the way, the topic of this thread. On Aug 21, 9:44 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Bob: I've got the earlier aluminum DA posts on two Rivs; even with their considerable setback I have to use a mallet to get my Flites far back enough (yes, I ought to have listened to Grant long ago when he counseled a 72* st; but mine are 73*) and the clamp grips the front part of the cradle with just mm of contact (no problems over many years, but ...). Does the S 83 have more setback than the DAs? Can't see what the fuss is over the SP 60,though -- looks like a bad old design resurrected in better quality. Thanks. On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Bob Cooper robertcoo...@frontiernet.net wrote: I ordered a Nitto S-83 quite some time ago, and this week I got around to installing it, mating the Atlantis to the Brooks Team Pro. As I was lubing and assembling the ensemble, I was struck by the fact that this was the finest seatpost I had ever installed. Better than my Dura-Ace, Synchros, Easton, Suntour XC Pro, Suntour Superbe Pro, American Classic or even the Nitto S-65 of which I think I have three and the Thompson Elite of which I have three. None of these is junk, but the S-83 is better. How do they do it? A masterpiece of design and execution. Bob Cooper -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Review Instructions for Snobbish Nitto SP-60 Seat Post
Yes, but it's not nearly as nice as the other, more modern Nitto seatposts or, for that matter, my Dura Aces and old Simplex (think it's Simplex) -- whence my question. Really not sure how you can say this without actually having one at hand. As I say in my prior post, I have a horde of old Simplex seat posts, two of them NOS. I fully expect the Nitto product to be head and shoulders above the Simplex in both looks and quality. And this is coming from an avid collector of Simplex components. The Retrofriction DT shifters duly excepted, most Simplex components belong on the display shelf or a ceiling hanging decoration bike. Even the vaunted Simplex SLJ derailleurs had their share of foibles Huret and Campy consistently made better product (save, of course, the lovely to look at but horrid Campy Rally rear der). On Aug 22, 9:18 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, but it's not nearly as nice as the other, more modern Nitto seatposts or, for that matter, my Dura Aces and old Simplex (think it's Simplex) -- whence my question. On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 9:24 PM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Can't see what the fuss is over the SP 60,though -- looks like a bad old design resurrected in better quality. Sadly, good taste has become all too rare in this 21st Century. For those of carrying the flame, there is now the SP-60. Which is, by the way, the topic of this thread. Patrick Moore, *Resolutely* bottom trimming. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: I finished an Yves Gomez for my wife
I'm a male and would prefer the Betty over the Yves in the looks department, decals and all! I love the hearts. Scott On Aug 22, 5:42 am, Angus angusle...@sbcglobal.net wrote: William, We put a child stoker kit on the back of our tandem...and found that little kids can virtually fall asleep and yet not fall off the bike. Angus On Aug 21, 11:29 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the kind words. My two kids (9 and 7 years old) have gotten really enthusiastic about cycling, which has motivated my wife to be into it as well. Humorous aside about my daughter. She learned to ride without training wheels just this summer. We did an intensive session on our vacation Quote from Day 2 of Vacation: Daddy, I want to keep my training wheels until I'm 20 Quote from Day 4 of Vacation: Daddy! I can't believe I'm riding my bike without training wheels! I never want to stop riding my bike! My son asks about once a week for me to check if his legs are long enough to be my stoker on the tandem. The only hiccup with the build has been the front derailleur. I've done three Riv builds this year, and the front derailleur has been an adventure with all three. On this Yves I used a Suntour X-1, which fit nicely and the curvature is good for the rings, but the return spring is too strong for the Cheapie Thumb Shifters. No matter how tight you crank the tension screw on the shifter, it wanders out. I have a SRAM that I'll try next. On Aug 20, 2:19 pm, Powderpiggy ke...@mid-columbia-coho.net wrote: That's awesome. I love it. I actually have a Yves Gomez on order from Riv and hope to see it on my doorstep within the month. So this was kind of like a sneak peek of what is to come. Glad to know I will not be the only female riding the 'international mans mixte' Keely On Aug 20, 12:31 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I've finished setting up my wife's mixte. It's turned out quite nicely. 52cm Yves Gomez. She's adjusting to the Albatross bars, but so far so good. She wanted a black and tan looking bike and has no qualms about having her decals say International Mens Mixte. The rack that we use with the Burley Piccolo is also powder coated black so it looks right at home. In fact, I've been thinking of setting up a 58cm mixte for myself and I prefer the baby blue. Anyway, shots in my flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758...@n04/4910562571/- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Review Instructions for Snobbish Nitto SP-60 Seat Post
*And* you bet you don't get as much setback with that old kind of post. Not a problem if you are using it on a custom bike. (but which I recognize as style, not function or even necessarily aesthetics). Now we are getting into the splitting hairs category. I hope to use mine on a custom rando style bike that will have braze on brakes, integrated fenders and front racks, internal cabling, a stem with built in stradle cable holder. It is my opinion the seat post will match the aesthetics - not just style - of the rest of the bike. I am old enough to remember when the LaPrad type of post was called a micro-adjust post because it didn't have the coarse serrations of the old, separate-type clamp. Based on James' report above, I am hopeful the clamp will be more than up to the job. If not, and as I say above, Brompton recently put a very nice stepped clamp on the market. On Aug 22, 9:21 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I am old enough to remember when the LaPrad type of post was called a micro-adjust post because it didn't have the coarse serrations of the old, separate-type clamp. *And* you bet you don't get as much setback with that old kind of post. I think it's a quirky, nostalgia, be different type of accessory, a taste for which I can sympathize (but which I recognize as style, not function or even necessarily aesthetics). On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: I am a bit lost on this as well. While they look great I always thought the two part seatposts of the past were a bad design decision. Past nostalgia what would be the benefit of this post? On Aug 21, 11:24 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Can't see what the fuss is over the SP 60,though -- looks like a bad old design resurrected in better quality. Sadly, good taste has become all too rare in this 21st Century. For those of carrying the flame, there is now the SP-60. Which is, by the way, the topic of this thread. On Aug 21, 9:44 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Bob: I've got the earlier aluminum DA posts on two Rivs; even with their considerable setback I have to use a mallet to get my Flites far back enough (yes, I ought to have listened to Grant long ago when he counseled a 72* st; but mine are 73*) and the clamp grips the front part of the cradle with just mm of contact (no problems over many years, but ...). Does the S 83 have more setback than the DAs? Can't see what the fuss is over the SP 60,though -- looks like a bad old design resurrected in better quality. Thanks. On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Bob Cooper robertcoo...@frontiernet.net wrote: I ordered a Nitto S-83 quite some time ago, and this week I got around to installing it, mating the Atlantis to the Brooks Team Pro. As I was lubing and assembling the ensemble, I was struck by the fact that this was the finest seatpost I had ever installed. Better than my Dura-Ace, Synchros, Easton, Suntour XC Pro, Suntour Superbe Pro, American Classic or even the Nitto S-65 of which I think I have three and the Thompson Elite of which I have three. None of these is junk, but the S-83 is better. How do they do it? A masterpiece of design and execution. Bob Cooper -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Saddle experiment
I was just considering buying a Selle Anatomica instead of a B17 and had few questions. I weigh just shy of the 180 lb limit for the standard saddle. Since I have been reading about the stretching that the leather does, would you recommend that I go with the clydesdale version? Also, has anyone tried the version without the cut-out? It's almost half the price of the cut-out version and I don't have a problem with pressure up front. Does the cut-out provide significantly more comfort under the sit bones by allowing increased flex? Thanks, -Mike C. On Aug 21, 5:58 pm, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: Since I first bought a Selle Anatomica from RBW, it's been my seat of choice. I have them on 3 of the 4 bikes that call our garage home. One of the saddles came used from another cyclist, and was already fully stretched out. My past experience with Selles is that once they get to that point, they stay there. GP said the same thing in the advertising blurb back when Riv was selling them. I was surprised then on today's ride (to Fat Girl's BBQ Cafe, no less) when the seat stretcher bolt fell OUT and onto teh ground as I was riding. The saddle was soaked with sweat and hammocked so that it was laying on top of the seatpost. No, there was no pain, just consternation. The leather LOOKS okay, and instead of sending $75 to re skin the frame back at the factory, I decided to go to Home Depot instead. I came back with a 3 1/2 bolt to replace the 2 long fallen out one. The Selle bolt has a custom head which gets a narrow hex socket inside a hole in the steel saddle nose piece. I knew I wouldn't find that, but came back with a carriage bolt instead. I turned it up snug against the rounded inside portion of the nose piece and we'll see how it rides. If it's a bust, I'm out a whopping $0.33 (inc tax) None of my other Selles have done this, btw. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Please bring back the MUSA saddle cover
Yeah, I stopped using the aardvark after losing it somwhere in Oregon on a bike tour. Not real pleased. In the end a thick plastic bag is the best cover, free, and easily replaceable. I made an indestructable saddle cover out of a scrap of boat sail material with grommits punched in and a piece of cord to pull it snug at the seat post. Totally waterproff, ugly as sin, and boomproof. If you live near water with any sort of sailing community, find a sail shop and ask for some scraps and make one. MUSA! Scott On Aug 22, 9:07 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Gernot, you might want to check-out the saddle covers made by Randi Jo Fabrications, they really nice with some great featrues. https://www.randijofab.com/products/saddle-covers --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Please bring back the MUSA saddle cover
Yes, well, one tends to stop using something after one loses it... :) Thanks for the sail cloth tip. Sounds a bit hard to sew, though or do you just cut and add grommets? Gernot On Aug 22, 10:17 pm, scott clankbonesh...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, I stopped using the aardvark after losing it somwhere in Oregon on a bike tour. Not real pleased. In the end a thick plastic bag is the best cover, free, and easily replaceable. I made an indestructable saddle cover out of a scrap of boat sail material with grommits punched in and a piece of cord to pull it snug at the seat post. Totally waterproff, ugly as sin, and boomproof. If you live near water with any sort of sailing community, find a sail shop and ask for some scraps and make one. MUSA! Scott On Aug 22, 9:07 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Gernot, you might want to check-out the saddle covers made by Randi Jo Fabrications, they really nice with some great featrues. https://www.randijofab.com/products/saddle-covers --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Saddle experiment
IMHO, the Sella Anatomica saddles have too much flex. I think the flex is higher on the saddles with cutouts. I much prefer a standard B17. --Eric Sent from my iPad On Aug 22, 2010, at 8:05 AM, MikeC mecinib...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I was just considering buying a Selle Anatomica instead of a B17 and had few questions. I weigh just shy of the 180 lb limit for the standard saddle. Since I have been reading about the stretching that the leather does, would you recommend that I go with the clydesdale version? Also, has anyone tried the version without the cut-out? It's almost half the price of the cut-out version and I don't have a problem with pressure up front. Does the cut-out provide significantly more comfort under the sit bones by allowing increased flex? Thanks, -Mike C. On Aug 21, 5:58 pm, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: Since I first bought a Selle Anatomica from RBW, it's been my seat of choice. I have them on 3 of the 4 bikes that call our garage home. One of the saddles came used from another cyclist, and was already fully stretched out. My past experience with Selles is that once they get to that point, they stay there. GP said the same thing in the advertising blurb back when Riv was selling them. I was surprised then on today's ride (to Fat Girl's BBQ Cafe, no less) when the seat stretcher bolt fell OUT and onto teh ground as I was riding. The saddle was soaked with sweat and hammocked so that it was laying on top of the seatpost. No, there was no pain, just consternation. The leather LOOKS okay, and instead of sending $75 to re skin the frame back at the factory, I decided to go to Home Depot instead. I came back with a 3 1/2 bolt to replace the 2 long fallen out one. The Selle bolt has a custom head which gets a narrow hex socket inside a hole in the steel saddle nose piece. I knew I wouldn't find that, but came back with a carriage bolt instead. I turned it up snug against the rounded inside portion of the nose piece and we'll see how it rides. If it's a bust, I'm out a whopping $0.33 (inc tax) None of my other Selles have done this, btw. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Your Invitation to Be a Part of the 2010 Tahoe Epic
Jim: I'll let you know when we'll be in SLT. Hope to see you up there. --Eric Sent from my iPad On Aug 21, 2010, at 11:18 PM, James Pavlichek jimbit...@gmail.com wrote: Well guys, have fun with that. As it happens, I'll be taking off work that weekend, but I'll already be up in SLT at my GF's and doing some nice riding. Just a note, there is an organized/supported ride around the Lake happening on Sunday the 12th. I imagine it won't interfere with the TE as I'm sure you all will be out of there pretty early. Just thought I'd let you know. here's the link to their ride info Looks like they will be going clockwise, starting from Stateline in 4 waves between 6:30 and 7:30am. I figure this may put them in your area at your time. Who knows, could be fun for you! I may even see you near there as we will be doing the ride (no support of course!) Eric, let me know when you all think you'll be up and around and maybe I can swing our gang saying a quick hello to your gang. Bon Route! -Jim P. On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 5:17 PM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: This is your invitation to spend the weekend of Sept 11 and 12 riding in the beautiful Sierra Nevadas on a journey to the all-you-can-eat buffets at the famous Stateline casinos. Yes, the Tahoe Epic is returning for 2010 after taking a few years off, and you're invited to come! Here's the ride in a nutshell: Sept. 11: Depart Davis at 7 a.m. and follow the Big Fix Day One route to Sly Park (where BF stopped for the night), then continuing on to the 25+-mile climb up Mormon Emigrant Trail, Carson Pass, and Luther Pass before descending down into the Tahoe Basin. (* There are options--more on that later.) We'll stay at a local hotel (** More info below) and eat at a local casino. Sept. 12: After a hearty breakfast at a local eatery, we'll take a slightly different route back (*** Options! We have options!!), climbing over Hwy 50 to Echo Summit and then descending to Sly Park, where we start retracing Saturday's route. Total mileage if you start in Davis (*) is about 270 miles (140 Day One/130 Day two) with about 15,000 feet of climbing (almost all on Day One). SOME STUFF TO KEEP IN MIND 1) This is a tough ride. Almost half of the riders who have attempted the entire Epic have not finished, and that roster includes some pretty strong riders. Be prepared to spend a lot of time in the saddle facing a road that slopes up in front of you (as well as some kick-ass downhills). 2) Do NOT count on support. As of right now, we will ride the Epic in traditional fashion, unsupported and carrying everything with us. That needs to include your street clothes for Saturday night dinner, toiletries, and ... WATER. The climb up Mormon Emigrant Trail and then down to the store at Silver Lake will take a strong rider at least 3 hours, and it can get hot. On the first Epic, all three participants ended up flagging down passing cars for water. Don't let this happen to you! Plan to bring at least two bottles and a large Camelbak--once you leave Sly Park, the next services are almost 30 miles and 5,000 feet of climbing away. 3) Bring LIGHTS. Sure, if you're super duper strong you could possibly finish in daylight, but we'll be regrouping. Every single Epic has ended in darkness, and you will probably need good lights for the 35mph+ descent of Luther Pass. 4) You're on your own for lodging. I have made a room reservation at the Lodge in Kingsbury Crossing in Stateline (just over the Nevada border) in a room that can hold up to six people. That room (through Priceline) was $103. I'll be happy to share the room, or you can book your own, but let's try to all stay in the general vicinity of the Stateline casinos. Address for the Lodge is 133 Deer Run Court, Stateline (Nevada), NV 89449. 5) This is a friendly ride, and we will regroup regularly. Traditional spots have generally been: Folsom, El Dorado Hills (AM/PM on our side of the road), Placerville (coffee shop), Sly Park, Silver Lake Store, Carson Pass, Hwy 88/89 junction, and Hwy 89/Pioneer Trail junction. OPTIONS: * If you like, you can leave from the Sacramento/Folsom area and avoid the flat miles from Davis. We can meet in Folsom and continue from there. ** You can stay at the official hotel or anywhere else you choose, but let's all try to stay in approximately the same area. *** If you don't want to climb over Echo Summit, you can retrace the Saturday route back over Luther and Carson passes and down Mormon Emigrant Trail. Be warned that this is much harder than the official Sunday route--there is a lot more climbing. I've never had a problem with Hwy 50 over Echo Summit--Sunday morning traffic is pretty light, there's a good shoulder, and on the downhill side you'll be going almost as fast as the cars. You decide what's best for you.
[RBW] Re: Please bring back the MUSA saddle cover
No sewing. Just cut it and hammer the grommets. You don't even need the grommets. Just poke some holes and put a piece of cord through them. I added a toggle to cinch it up. I really want to get a tiny little dock cleat and attach it to my seat post collar and tie it down that way. Super cute. Scott On Aug 22, 10:33 am, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, well, one tends to stop using something after one loses it... :) Thanks for the sail cloth tip. Sounds a bit hard to sew, though or do you just cut and add grommets? Gernot On Aug 22, 10:17 pm, scott clankbonesh...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, I stopped using the aardvark after losing it somwhere in Oregon on a bike tour. Not real pleased. In the end a thick plastic bag is the best cover, free, and easily replaceable. I made an indestructable saddle cover out of a scrap of boat sail material with grommits punched in and a piece of cord to pull it snug at the seat post. Totally waterproff, ugly as sin, and boomproof. If you live near water with any sort of sailing community, find a sail shop and ask for some scraps and make one. MUSA! Scott On Aug 22, 9:07 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Gernot, you might want to check-out the saddle covers made by Randi Jo Fabrications, they really nice with some great featrues. https://www.randijofab.com/products/saddle-covers --mike- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Review Instructions for Snobbish Nitto SP-60 Seat Post
Aesthetics and nostalgia are two different things. Assuming the seat clamp is well made (if not, Brompton makes a very nice one now), it is quite a stretch to say it is a bad design. The design got a bad rap mainly because the seat clamps - which were spec'd and sold by the saddle manufacturer were junk. OK...past aesthetics what is the benefit. Maybe bad design is too strong but certainly having less moving pieces makes more sense. If you had multiple bikes with these it would make moving the saddle easier but I would think that would not be a common scenario. I don't have a problem with the stem I am sure it is well made I was just wondering what make one choose this over another and I think the answer is aesthetics (or nostalgia). :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: 64cm Atlantis Frame
I did some soul searching about this one. The Atlantis was my first really nice bike. It's the bike that reintroduced me to the joy of riding. It's also the bike that I've used as a platform to learn about bike fit and component selections for comfortable riding/touring - knowledge that I've iused for my own and many other's benefit. Now, after experimenting with several other bikes, it's also the bike that I've decided to let go of in order to reorganize and streamline my bike possessions. I've got two other bikes that serve the same purposes as the Atlantis did originally - fat tire versatility and touring (a 26-inch wheel,Surly LHT and a Bombadil). I'm now looking to purchase a Hilsen as a more sporty road machine that will fit me a bit better than the Atlantis, which I bought slightly small to accomodate standover with fatter tires. The Hilsen will also replace a slightly small for me SOMA Smoothie ES (also 64cm) and a 62cm Surly Crosscheck - both of which I'll also be selling soon. Here's the deal: The frame is about 4 years old, with the typical scratches and wear including some at the right chainstay where the chain came off a couple of times. I've touched these up. I've never crashed the bike and there are no dents. I'm selling the frame, fork and ultegra headset along with IRD canti's, a Nitto Tech Deluxe stem (9 or 10 cm - I forget), a Nitto big front rack, and a Nitto Jaguar seatpost for $1500.00 - buyer pays shipping. The buyer will need to send payment via Paypal. I will then pack the bike in the same manner/materials/box that my Hilsen comes in from RBW. I'm heading into a new academic year with limited discretionary time, so it will take me about a week to two weeks to pack the bike and ship it. This is the perfect bike for a tall guy who'd like an Atlantis in 64cm. As you all probably know, the Atlantis is no longer offered in 64cm without special ordering it. It's also important to know that this is the Atlantis without the kickstand plate or the extra braze ons from later Riv's. I use a Clikstand and have used P-clamps on the Nitto front rack while touring. It's a great bike. Dave -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Tire and Bar Tape Color Help
Picked up some lightly used Grand Bois Cerf tires here on board and my celery tape arrived Friday from Riv. I will post some photos when I am through. My first test run on the Cerfs was great. They are a full 28 and I still have room so I might have been able to hit a 30mm tire. These are plenty fat though. On Jul 14, 11:13 pm, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: Sorry to keep bumping this. I measured the existing tires and they are a tiny bit over 24 so pretty close to the listed 25. By the above photo it looks like I have a fair bit of room. I could do Kojaks if they measure under the 35 rated but it would probably be cutting it close. I would feel better in the 28-32 range. I actually am thinking Marathon Racers or Roll-y Pol-y with the RP being the safest bet. If I could guarantee the Kojaks I think that is what I would do. If Mark at Riv likes them then they must be a good fast type of tire. On Jul 14, 5:19 pm, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: The Kojak really interests me as I dig Schwalbe tires but it is the fattest of all the tires and I might not have the clearance. I have the photo up above...does anyone think it looks like it might have the clearance? I think that I am down to either the Pasela in a 30 or the Rolly Poly with a slight leaning towards the RP. I think I have settled on celery with clear shellac for the tape. On Jul 14, 11:23 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Stelvio is designed for racing and probably not optimal for most riding. well, it's a racing tire in the same sense that theRB-2is a racing bike. i'm sure it's a fine tire for most road riding (the OP's intent). Schwalbe does not make the Stelvio (except the tubular variation) any longer and appears many outlets are selling them well below the $70.00 per tire suggested retail. May be worth picking them up for a song. Schwalbe rates the replacement in the line-up, the Ultremo, lower on puncture and durability. Perhaps the better option among Schwalbe road race tires is the Durano. Plan to use Duranos on my Spectrum 30th Anniversary. They are definitely not as plush as the Kojak. But Duranos are lighter than Kojaks and according to Schwalbe designed to hold up longer than Stelvio and Ultermo, If it fits, I still think the Kojak the better choice unless the OP will be competing. Kojaks feel like you are riding on air. On Jul 14, 9:48 am, Patrick in VT swing4...@gmail.com wrote: On Jul 14, 10:13 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Stelvio is designed for racing and probably not optimal for most riding. well, it's a racing tire in the same sense that theRB-2is a racing bike. i'm sure it's a fine tire for most road riding (the OP's intent). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Renovelo Frames
I wonder if a Rivendell production fixed gear super-light mountain bike would sell, or if the appeal of that frame was its uniqueness? It seems like most of the people here who wanted it were relieved when they couldn't have it. Philip 97128 On Aug 22, 5:19 am, RonaTD teddur...@sbcglobal.net wrote: On Aug 21, 4:01 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: and the listing for THE ONE is now gone. Best of luck to the lucky individual that bought it. Yup, as of 5:00pm Friday it was sold. I agonized over it alll day Saturday and was somewhat relieved to find out it was no longer available. The last thing I need is another bike, but that one really called out to me. Ted Durant -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Review Instructions for Snobbish Nitto SP-60 Seat Post
With a seat post, I stick it on there and never adjust it again. So why not look cool? And I doubt NItto would make a bad product, and it reminds me of bikes I had when i was a kid, and I think it looks like a post that was made to do a specific job without trying to look streamlined or modern or like a piece or art (it is, after all, just something to hold your saddle in place). I think of it a lot like I think of the lugs on my bike. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Tire and Bar Tape Color Help
You could do brown (yellow + amber shellac): http://tinyurl.com/yd542lz Dark red wouldn’t look bad (red + clear shellac) http://tinyurl.com/26257lr This is blue with clear: http://tinyurl.com/295v6e3 Avoid dark green with amber shellac, it looks awful (it least in my hands). If you use green, you'll probably want to use clear. And I know that I twined the first, but it really isn’t necessary. I prefer to start at the top of the bar and skip the twine. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Review Instructions for Snobbish Nitto SP-60 Seat Post
Johnny, The seat post was not really a bad design at all, but you must understand how things are manufactured to see why. When this type of post was made, the type of machinery needed to make it was not that sophisticated. Hence the design seams less than ideal from our stand point, because CNC mills and lathes are the norm. We can easily and cheaply make parts that would have cost thousands 50+ years ago. Look at the evolution of the crank set and bottom bracket. The cotter'd BB is by far the simplest to make. I could make one with my 1910 South Bend lathe. The tapered square bb spindle is much harder to make, and you'll need more sophisticated equipment to produce these. Now we have the out board bearings and hollow crank arms, these parts exploit the use of CNC machinery. And I'd like to add to my review that the Nitto SP-60 is heavier and less adjustable than just about every other modern seat post. I wanted one for the look and just because none of my bike club friends have one (most never seen one!) I have other bikes with Campagnolo seat post, Thomson, and other Nitto models, so a little diversity was needed. On Aug 22, 2010, at 6:28 AM, Johnny Alien wrote: I am a bit lost on this as well. While they look great I always thought the two part seatposts of the past were a bad design decision. Past nostalgia what would be the benefit of this post? James Valiensi, PE Northridge, CA H818.775.1847 M.818.585.1796 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Saddle experiment
On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 08:05 -0700, MikeC wrote: I was just considering buying a Selle Anatomica instead of a B17 and had few questions. I weigh just shy of the 180 lb limit for the standard saddle. Since I have been reading about the stretching that the leather does, would you recommend that I go with the clydesdale version? Also, has anyone tried the version without the cut-out? It's almost half the price of the cut-out version and I don't have a problem with pressure up front. Does the cut-out provide significantly more comfort under the sit bones by allowing increased flex? I think the first question to ask is, how do you feel about really hammocky saddles. Personally, I don't like them at all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Review Instructions for Snobbish Nitto SP-60 Seat Post
On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 07:57 -0700, JoelMatthews wrote: Campy consistently made better product (save, of course, the lovely to look at but horrid Campy Rally rear der). Never mind the Rally, if you're looking for examples of Campagnolo Horrible, be sure to include its predecessor, the Gran Turismo: a cross between a cheapie Valentino RD and a boat anchor. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Life's little epics
I've been mildly bummed that I haven't taken my epic 10 year journey around the earth on a solid steel three speed from the fifties. When these moments of misery wash over me I think back on all the great little rides I do manage to squeak in. Five hours here, eight hours there plus the normal daily rides to work, coffee shops, post office all the while looking down at a nice green bicycle designed and put together by a small local company about 30 miles up the road. I think about all the great people I've met, those on bicycles and those off bicycles (who say they'd like to be on one but...) and then I know today is a great day to go for a bike ride. Okay enough silly philostopher stuff. What I did was put together a little photo essay about last weekend's ride. Pretty typical weekend that has become so routine I can't appreciate it as other do when they say you rode there on a bicycle?. Yes, people say that for even these little dinky (to me) rides. Saturday was a little shopping trip from Livermore to Dublin to Pleasanton farmers market and back to Livermore. Sunday was a ride over Altamont Pass Road to Tracy and back. http://www.flickr.com/photos/wrebb/sets/72157624658476139/ Regards, Ray -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Life's little epics
A good weekend, indeed. Thanks for sharing. Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean P. S. Bikes are great! On Aug 22, 4:00 pm, Way Rebb grayc...@mac.com wrote: I've been mildly bummed that I haven't taken my epic 10 year journey around the earth on a solid steel three speed from the fifties. When these moments of misery wash over me I think back on all the great little rides I do manage to squeak in. Five hours here, eight hours there plus the normal daily rides to work, coffee shops, post office all the while looking down at a nice green bicycle designed and put together by a small local company about 30 miles up the road. I think about all the great people I've met, those on bicycles and those off bicycles (who say they'd like to be on one but...) and then I know today is a great day to go for a bike ride. Okay enough silly philostopher stuff. What I did was put together a little photo essay about last weekend's ride. Pretty typical weekend that has become so routine I can't appreciate it as other do when they say you rode there on a bicycle?. Yes, people say that for even these little dinky (to me) rides. Saturday was a little shopping trip from Livermore to Dublin to Pleasanton farmers market and back to Livermore. Sunday was a ride over Altamont Pass Road to Tracy and back. http://www.flickr.com/photos/wrebb/sets/72157624658476139/ Regards, Ray -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Review Instructions for Snobbish Nitto SP-60 Seat Post
On Aug 22, 11:29 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: OK...past aesthetics what is the benefit. It has always been a bit of a drag to work your keester off to come up with a full integrated look on your bike only to have the seat post mechanicals loudly make their presence known. This is interesting. I consider the sp-60 to be a very industrial looking seatpost. Compared to today's seatpost, I actually think it may be louder than current seatpost just because it is so different. For example, if you look at standard seatposts, most look like these: Nitto CR http://www.rivbike.com/images/products/full//1149/11-031_site_pairheads.jpg Kalloy http://aebike.com/images/library/catalogs/soc/prodl/ST1550.jpg Campy Silver Seatpost http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2003/tech/features/campy_midrange/cereggisella01.jpg Of course, if you decide to really want loud, check out the Miche: http://www.freshtripe.co.uk/Freshtripe/Seats%20%20Seatposts_files/Miche%20Super%20Silver-1.jpg Until now, most post and clamp options were decidedly on the budget side of the market. Assuming this post and clamp meet Nitto's until now exacting standards, There is a fairly good chance this will be the missing component. Agree, Nitto makes great stuff, so you'll probably won't have any problems with it. Good Luck! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Life's little epics
Three questions, Ray. How do you like the leather HB tape? Does having a HB bag that hi up affect the bike handling? How do you get tomatoes home a bike without them getting all banged up? Michael in cool, rainy Westford, VT On Aug 22, 5:00 pm, Way Rebb grayc...@mac.com wrote: I've been mildly bummed that I haven't taken my epic 10 year journey around the earth on a solid steel three speed from the fifties. When these moments of misery wash over me I think back on all the great little rides I do manage to squeak in. Five hours here, eight hours there plus the normal daily rides to work, coffee shops, post office all the while looking down at a nice green bicycle designed and put together by a small local company about 30 miles up the road. I think about all the great people I've met, those on bicycles and those off bicycles (who say they'd like to be on one but...) and then I know today is a great day to go for a bike ride. Okay enough silly philostopher stuff. What I did was put together a little photo essay about last weekend's ride. Pretty typical weekend that has become so routine I can't appreciate it as other do when they say you rode there on a bicycle?. Yes, people say that for even these little dinky (to me) rides. Saturday was a little shopping trip from Livermore to Dublin to Pleasanton farmers market and back to Livermore. Sunday was a ride over Altamont Pass Road to Tracy and back. http://www.flickr.com/photos/wrebb/sets/72157624658476139/ Regards, Ray -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Review Instructions for Snobbish Nitto SP-60 Seat Post
This is interesting. I consider the sp-60 to be a very industrial looking seatpost. Compared to today's seatpost, I actually think it may be louder than current seatpost just because it is so different. Well, assuming you set it up right with a saddle like the Brooks B-17 or Berthoud, the mechanical looking clamp is out of site. If you have a Brooks Swallow or a race style Fizik, probably does not make sense to go with the SP-60, as there is no way not to see the clamp. On Aug 22, 5:30 pm, bfd bfd...@yahoo.com wrote: On Aug 22, 11:29 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: OK...past aesthetics what is the benefit. It has always been a bit of a drag to work your keester off to come up with a full integrated look on your bike only to have the seat post mechanicals loudly make their presence known. This is interesting. I consider the sp-60 to be a very industrial looking seatpost. Compared to today's seatpost, I actually think it may be louder than current seatpost just because it is so different. For example, if you look at standard seatposts, most look like these: Nitto CRhttp://www.rivbike.com/images/products/full//1149/11-031_site_pai... Kalloyhttp://aebike.com/images/library/catalogs/soc/prodl/ST1550.jpg Campy Silver Seatposthttp://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2003/tech/features/campy_midrange/c... Of course, if you decide to really want loud, check out the Miche:http://www.freshtripe.co.uk/Freshtripe/Seats%20%20Seatposts_files/Mi... Until now, most post and clamp options were decidedly on the budget side of the market. Assuming this post and clamp meet Nitto's until now exacting standards, There is a fairly good chance this will be the missing component. Agree, Nitto makes great stuff, so you'll probably won't have any problems with it. Good Luck! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Review Instructions for Snobbish Nitto SP-60 Seat Post
Never mind the Rally, if you're looking for examples of Campagnolo Horrible, be sure to include its predecessor, the Gran Turismo: a cross between a cheapie Valentino RD and a boat anchor. Yeah. They are so uncharacteristically ugly for Campy only the most hard core collector bothers with them. On Aug 22, 5:01 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 07:57 -0700, JoelMatthews wrote: Campy consistently made better product (save, of course, the lovely to look at but horrid Campy Rally rear der). Never mind the Rally, if you're looking for examples of Campagnolo Horrible, be sure to include its predecessor, the Gran Turismo: a cross between a cheapie Valentino RD and a boat anchor. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Life's little epics
Michael, The tape is cloth tape, silver, with three or four coats of garnet shellac applied over a year ago. It is getting a nice patina now. The HB bag felt different for about the first 10 minutes. Now I don't even notice. I used the VO bag mounted to the front rack for quite a while. That also felt different at first but I couldn't access the pockets and fastening the latch was awkward. That was due to the way I mounted it. The decalleur would have been better but I would have to take to much of the bike apart. http://www.flickr.com/photos/wrebb/4918208604/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/wrebb/4917605573/ I love the magnet closure on the Sackville bag and the side pockets are easy to access, being handle bar level, Last century I used a Kirtland mounted high and have never noticed negative handling characteristics. I'd say the handed is fine. Tomatos ride in the saddle bag and are packed pretty tightly with the onions and peppers and a bunch of other stuff. They survive the ride with a nice tomato flavor. Regards, Ray On Aug 22, 3:56 pm, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: Three questions, Ray. How do you like the leather HB tape? Does having a HB bag that hi up affect the bike handling? How do you get tomatoes home a bike without them getting all banged up? Michael in cool, rainy Westford, VT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Review Instructions for Snobbish Nitto SP-60 Seat Post
Would like to comment again - when I used a similar style, it was on bikes with 70 degree seat tube angles. Personally, would feel this design now would put my knees too far forward to be comfortable. At least on a modern bike. Anyway, it's a moot point, as I am way past the weight limit for this saddle. Strangely, have never had a problem with the Brompton design, even when I weighed more. (Yes, I do get the look, and might even want to try one. But it's not going to happen.) Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Aug 22, 7:02 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: This is interesting. I consider the sp-60 to be a very industrial looking seatpost. Compared to today's seatpost, I actually think it may be louder than current seatpost just because it is so different. Well, assuming you set it up right with a saddle like the Brooks B-17 or Berthoud, the mechanical looking clamp is out of site. If you have a Brooks Swallow or a race style Fizik, probably does not make sense to go with the SP-60, as there is no way not to see the clamp. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Tire and Bar Tape Color Help
And photos...celery tape (waiting for shellac) and Cerf tires. This Japanese cloth tape is the best I have used. http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii31/Johnny_Alien/1991%20Bridgestone%20RB-2/0822001800.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Please bring back the MUSA saddle cover
I agree with Gernot. I miss you, MUSA cover. I would love another couple of MUSAs. Having been through one Aardvark in a short time, I do not want to support an inferior product by buying another one. Ryan On Aug 22, 7:39 am, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Just went to order two more of these, and found to my shock that they were no more. I understand the rationale of going to the Aardvark (don't have to order 300 at a time), and in fact the Aardvark was my favorite cover before Riv ever started carrying it. But last year I tried the MUSA, and was completely sold. Best functioning seat cover ever. Period. And best looking. What's the problem with the Aardvark? The elastic dies within the year, and one day your seat cover will slip off with nary a word as you stand to climb a rise, and you won't notice until you are miles down the road. So you can't even return it for a defect in materials. Maybe I am asking too much from a seat cover, but I don't want them to be semi-disposable items. How about you? Second issue with the Aardvark: If you have saddles with copper rivets, and the rivets weren't hammered with perfectly downward- curling edges, those edges will chew holes into the cushy but not sturdy neoprene in no time. The Aardvark ain't bad, but it just isn't Rivendell-durable. Cheers, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Please bring back the MUSA saddle cover
Mike, I think the Randi Jo Fabrications saddle covers look very well designed. I have a Brooks saddle cover, that came with the last B.17 saddle that I purchased, tucked between the rails of the saddle, but I don't think it would work as well as the Randi Jo cover. It's good to see that a small independent supplier is providing this kind of product. Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ On Aug 22, 7:07 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Gernot, you might want to check-out the saddle covers made by Randi Jo Fabrications, they really nice with some great featrues. https://www.randijofab.com/products/saddle-covers --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Saddle experiment
Hi Mike. I have an SA sans cutout and a B-17 Champion Special. I find both comfortable for long distance (70+ mile) rides, but they are different beasts. I haven't had a problem with any differences in width or length. The main difference I've found between the saddles is that the SA is a bit softer than the B-17 CS. The initial adjustments I made with the SA were the usual height, tilt, and fore/aft. Importantly, I also had to adjust the tension. A little on the taught side was the ticket for me. Apparently, working with the tension is fine with the SA, which may be unusual for those of us used to Brooks saddle. I will say that on longer rides, I feel more of a need to shift around a little bit on the B-17 than I do on the SA. Sorry, I haven't tried the SA with cutout so I can't provide any comparisons there. Note that I have the SA on a bike where the bars are about 2 cm lower than my saddle. The B-17 is on a bike where the bars and saddle are even. I've put upwards of 500 miles on the SA and significantly more than that on the B-17. Here's a visual comparison of the SA, B-17, and a VO Model-6: http://tinyurl.com/2dkfb45 Oh yes, fwiw, I've read that if you're near the limit, go for the clydesdale. Take care, Lee On Aug 22, 8:05 am, MikeC mecinib...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I was just considering buying a Selle Anatomica instead of a B17 and had few questions. I weigh just shy of the 180 lb limit for the standard saddle. Since I have been reading about the stretching that the leather does, would you recommend that I go with the clydesdale version? Also, has anyone tried the version without the cut-out? It's almost half the price of the cut-out version and I don't have a problem with pressure up front. Does the cut-out provide significantly more comfort under the sit bones by allowing increased flex? Thanks, -Mike C. On Aug 21, 5:58 pm, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: Since I first bought a Selle Anatomica from RBW, it's been my seat of choice. I have them on 3 of the 4 bikes that call our garage home. One of the saddles came used from another cyclist, and was already fully stretched out. My past experience with Selles is that once they get to that point, they stay there. GP said the same thing in the advertising blurb back when Riv was selling them. I was surprised then on today's ride (to Fat Girl's BBQ Cafe, no less) when the seat stretcher bolt fell OUT and onto teh ground as I was riding. The saddle was soaked with sweat and hammocked so that it was laying on top of the seatpost. No, there was no pain, just consternation. The leather LOOKS okay, and instead of sending $75 to re skin the frame back at the factory, I decided to go to Home Depot instead. I came back with a 3 1/2 bolt to replace the 2 long fallen out one. The Selle bolt has a custom head which gets a narrow hex socket inside a hole in the steel saddle nose piece. I knew I wouldn't find that, but came back with a carriage bolt instead. I turned it up snug against the rounded inside portion of the nose piece and we'll see how it rides. If it's a bust, I'm out a whopping $0.33 (inc tax) None of my other Selles have done this, btw. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Saddle experiment
Bruce Hadn't considered the possibility of a longer replacement bolt. Suspect that info will come in handy. Thanks, and keep us posted on how it holds up. Mike and Steve: My guess is that some anatomies benefit from Selle Anatomicas more than others. In my experience the additional saddle flexibility isn't as much a benefit for the sit bones as it is for the avant garde of the nether regions. I started out with B17s on my Saluki and vintage Trek,and my sit bones never complained. But in spite of all trimming, I found the nose exceedingly uncomfortable and numbing after 30 or so miles, particularly when I was hunched down in the drops. This doesn't seem to be a problem for everyone, obviously. But the complaint nose of the SA _ and it's the CUT-OUT that apparently makes it compliant _ eliminated that issue entirely. I keep my saddle relatively stiff, so it's not quite a hammock where my butt is concerned. I have a friend whose SA looks like a sway-backed horse, but I don't think I could stand to ride mine that a'way. I must add that my experience with the build of SA's has been up and down. I'm a tad under 180, primarily a road rider, and a rider who posts frequently, but have had the metal bend on one, even though it purported to be a Clydesdale. As Grant might note, it IS steel, and can be bent back, but it ain't easy, and it shouldn't have been a problem in the first place. To offset leather sag, lace-ups along the bottom of the saddle seem almost inevitable (and seem to work fine), and lace-ups can greatly delay the day of reckoning with the end of the saddle bolt. Sent one SA back for way premature leather sag, and the company graciously and quickly replaced it. I have wondered if this inconsistency is one of the reasons Riv quietly stopped selling them. But the saddles that have been good have been very good, and I'd hate to have to do without them. From all I've seen, it would be a big mistake to get any other than a Clyde, unless you weight less than 150 and promise never to hit a bump in the road. On Aug 21, 4:58 pm, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: Since I first bought a Selle Anatomica from RBW, it's been my seat of choice. I have them on 3 of the 4 bikes that call our garage home. One of the saddles came used from another cyclist, and was already fully stretched out. My past experience with Selles is that once they get to that point, they stay there. GP said the same thing in the advertising blurb back when Riv was selling them. I was surprised then on today's ride (to Fat Girl's BBQ Cafe, no less) when the seat stretcher bolt fell OUT and onto teh ground as I was riding. The saddle was soaked with sweat and hammocked so that it was laying on top of the seatpost. No, there was no pain, just consternation. The leather LOOKS okay, and instead of sending $75 to re skin the frame back at the factory, I decided to go to Home Depot instead. I came back with a 3 1/2 bolt to replace the 2 long fallen out one. The Selle bolt has a custom head which gets a narrow hex socket inside a hole in the steel saddle nose piece. I knew I wouldn't find that, but came back with a carriage bolt instead. I turned it up snug against the rounded inside portion of the nose piece and we'll see how it rides. If it's a bust, I'm out a whopping $0.33 (inc tax) None of my other Selles have done this, btw. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Life's little epics
The pictures in the photo stream show a bike with a bag mounted to the bars, not a decalleur, and I would swear the tape in those pictures was leather. michael On Aug 22, 8:16 pm, Way Rebb grayc...@mac.com wrote: Michael, The tape is cloth tape, silver, with three or four coats of garnet shellac applied over a year ago. It is getting a nice patina now. The HB bag felt different for about the first 10 minutes. Now I don't even notice. I used the VO bag mounted to the front rack for quite a while. That also felt different at first but I couldn't access the pockets and fastening the latch was awkward. That was due to the way I mounted it. The decalleur would have been better but I would have to take to much of the bike apart. http://www.flickr.com/photos/wrebb/4918208604/http://www.flickr.com/photos/wrebb/4917605573/ I love the magnet closure on the Sackville bag and the side pockets are easy to access, being handle bar level, Last century I used a Kirtland mounted high and have never noticed negative handling characteristics. I'd say the handed is fine. Tomatos ride in the saddle bag and are packed pretty tightly with the onions and peppers and a bunch of other stuff. They survive the ride with a nice tomato flavor. Regards, Ray On Aug 22, 3:56 pm, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: Three questions, Ray. How do you like the leather HB tape? Does having a HB bag that hi up affect the bike handling? How do you get tomatoes home a bike without them getting all banged up? Michael in cool, rainy Westford, VT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Saddle experiment
Why heavens to Betty Foy I reckon what you all need to do is ride them saddles with a genuine cowpoke shirt and nothing less. I got to hand it to ya on that hardware solution however, its a mighty fine answer to a common problem that faces us saddle ridin tramps nearly every day. When ya git too much stretch in your leather I have ta tell ya, the final fix is to reduce the over consumption of them home cooked vittles, especially the pork fat and biscuits. If'en that don't work well, just drink a shot o' whiskey grab a thicker saddle and do Sam Hillborne proud in a genuine cowpoke shirt wearin, leather saddle riding, kind of way. Happy trails ! On Aug 21, 2:58 pm, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: Since I first bought a Selle Anatomica from RBW, it's been my seat of choice. I have them on 3 of the 4 bikes that call our garage home. One of the saddles came used from another cyclist, and was already fully stretched out. My past experience with Selles is that once they get to that point, they stay there. GP said the same thing in the advertising blurb back when Riv was selling them. I was surprised then on today's ride (to Fat Girl's BBQ Cafe, no less) when the seat stretcher bolt fell OUT and onto teh ground as I was riding. The saddle was soaked with sweat and hammocked so that it was laying on top of the seatpost. No, there was no pain, just consternation. The leather LOOKS okay, and instead of sending $75 to re skin the frame back at the factory, I decided to go to Home Depot instead. I came back with a 3 1/2 bolt to replace the 2 long fallen out one. The Selle bolt has a custom head which gets a narrow hex socket inside a hole in the steel saddle nose piece. I knew I wouldn't find that, but came back with a carriage bolt instead. I turned it up snug against the rounded inside portion of the nose piece and we'll see how it rides. If it's a bust, I'm out a whopping $0.33 (inc tax) None of my other Selles have done this, btw. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Brooks Saddle Finishes and Stains
Anyone (besides this anecdotal notification) find that Brooks saddles with pebble finishes (B67, B68, B72 -- the wide bodies) are less likely to stain than their smoother counterparts? ... or is it just this one? Looking for a 'stainless' Brooks model that won't affect the khakis on the way to work. Cheers, Chris Tucson, AZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] OT: WTB Cannondale
Yes, I realize this is off-topic, please delete if it is outside the rules of the group...and I've never made an OT post before, so hopefully this is forgivable. I'm looking for an '80s Cannondale SR900, preferably red. It would be awesome if it had the stock Nuovo Record/Cinelli group on it, but not necessary. 58 cm would be best, although I'll take a 60. I believe this is on topic, although probably not something any of you want to discuss :-) Specifically, the one shown here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/36397...@n06/sets/72157624580213191/ You're probably going to ask why...nostalgic reasons. This was the bike I was obsessed with when I was about 10 years old. I ended up getting a crappy Raleigh Olympian with stem shifters instead, as my parents weren't going to invest $999 (if I recall correctly) in what they saw as a passing phase. If only they knew then what I know now. John Ferguson New York, NY -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Brooks Saddle Finishes and Stains
For two years, I've ridden pebbled brown B68s. They stain, that much is clear. Whether more or less than smooth Brookses I'll know in a couple years or so, I imagine. I now ride both kinds. Just as a data point, I ride in all weather and never with a cover, though I do put a shower cap on the saddle when I park. I wonder if riding wet might make any Brooks saddle stain, regardless of texture or color. For me, of course, the stain is just beausage for my MUSA clothes. Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On Aug 22, 9:45 pm, Chris Halasz chal...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone (besides this anecdotal notification) find that Brooks saddles with pebble finishes (B67, B68, B72 -- the wide bodies) are less likely to stain than their smoother counterparts? ... or is it just this one? Looking for a 'stainless' Brooks model that won't affect the khakis on the way to work. Cheers, Chris Tucson, AZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Brooks Saddle Finishes and Stains
Then maybe we're just lucky on the one B.67 we have? Rats. Any other weigh-ins? Berthoud saddles? Selle Anatomica Titanicos? Thanks, Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Brooks Saddle Finishes and Stains
I've never had any stains on my clothes from a B66. Never from a regular B17, either. The only saddle I've had stain is a Champion Flyer that got wet before I had a chance to treat it. Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Aug 22, 8:48 pm, Chris Halasz chal...@gmail.com wrote: Then maybe we're just lucky on the one B.67 we have? Rats. Any other weigh-ins? Berthoud saddles? Selle Anatomica Titanicos? Thanks, Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
