[RBW] Re: Bike shop mechanics answer this:
What is the benefit of threadless to the consumer/rider, Garth? I do not see it. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Fund my Clem sale!
I haven't looked them up, but some of the brightly anodized early 90's mtb parts are becoming collectible. I wouldn't be surprised if you could get $200 or more for the cranks alone, depending on condition. Jay Hartman On Saturday, March 28, 2015, Wayne Naha w.r.n...@gmail.com wrote: Let the discounting begin! Also, my wife thinks that the purple cranks are keeping folks from loving this bike. I told her no way that's true. But if you want, I bet with the application of some elbow grease and scotch brite pads, you could take that color right off. Lets say $700.00 for the complete bike, or make me an offer for the frame. On Saturday, March 14, 2015 at 12:01:19 PM UTC-4, Wayne Naha wrote: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com'); . To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com');. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hunq vs Clem
51cm makes sense, the seat tube in the overlay is slightly shorter on the Hunq so I was suspecting that. The wheel discrepancy is there, you can see the Hunq's wheels are complete while the Clem's are cut off at the bottom of the shot. If my maths aren't failing me, a 26 wheel tuning 2.3 max tires shouldn't be too much smaller than the 650b with the 50mm Big Bens they keep using, so, again, probably off by maybe up to a half inch, but I think it's close. I'll try one later sizing the Hunq assuming it's a 51 and get a more accurate overlay in that regard. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Tips for Quick beam for long, mountain rides
Fantastic! Great to hear that spring is actually happening anywhere. Snow without accumulation all day yesterday, fluffy coating everywhere this morning and 19°, high of 28°. I don't think my plodding winter miles would be enough base to take a 50 mile ride yet alone 70. I'd be frozen somewhere around the 30 mile mark. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 4:16:15 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: I cheated and it was nearly all paved, but I did 70 miles on the Quickbeam today, to Deckers, then 6 miles North along the Platte (back to where we camped a few night ago). Just using basic math I averaged 11-12 mph, which is pretty good given the climbing involved. The section along the Platte river is dreamy. Just meandering along with the river realitively flat either way. What a blast! I haven't felt this good on that ride ever, so I must be doing something right. Grin. Perhaps I'll get cocky and give Pikes Peak another go on the QB later this year. Grin. Photos start here and go for a total of four progressing left: https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/16741137817/ With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Coffee Outside
the only wrong way to do coffee outside is not to do it :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] FS, Rivendell Custom Road 56cm, Bleriot 55cm
Parts, etc Rivendell Road Custom Joe Stark Built This is the very first Joel Green Rivendell built. I ordered this and let Grant pick the color, the next time the color was used was by another customer named Joel, hence the name. Grant also has or had a Joel Green Rivendell. It is a 56cm frame with a 56cm TT (unusual for Rivendell. I was at Rivendell and Grant measured me for this bike). It is a very comfortable bike to ride handles great, looks great, it is a Rivendell. Selling because I have not ridden it since a car accident (not with the bike) in June 2010 and I just don’t know if I will ever be able to ride it again. The bike needs a good cleaning, it has been in the basement unused for over 4 years. Other than that it is perfect in all ways. A couple of scratches but really not many. Low miles Here are some of the parts on the bike All of the Suntour parts were NOS when the build was done Albatross Bars Suntour Bar End shifters Brooks B68, honey Plastic Fenders Cyclone Rear D Cyclone Long Reach Breaks Superb Pro hubs Mavic MA2 rims TA Zepher triple (I got the last two in the country from what I was told) The pics make it look scratched, this is dirt and dust, just wiped a part down, looks almost new…. I suspect this will be the case with many of the pics, over 4 years without being touched. Font rings probably 48/38/28 I can check if needed Nitto Cages Nitto Stem (techmatic I think it was called, the longest one available at the time) Nitto Seat Post Campy Pedals (the ones that sell for over $80 a set) These show wear, scratches but VG condition, work well. Sachs or Suntour FW, probably 13-26 Rear Rack, inexpensive but works well Tires are 28mm, I think Roly Poly Panaracer Suntour XC Pro brake handles Bar Tape is shellaced Asking $2600 for complete bike plus shipping, talk to me on this... Frame only, we can discuss back channel on my email. Mar 17me Will consider parting out the Riv Road, would like to sell the Bleriot as is The Bleriot was ridden about 5-10 times(in perfect condition) before I was in a bad car accident in 2010 and has not been ridden since The road has more miles, in excellent condition, a few paint chips, etc but nothing bad. I really cannot stand to see these just stay in the basement, too nice and need to be ridden. Thanks, Joel here is some info Rivendell Road Custom Joe Stark Built This is the very first Joel Green Rivendell built. I ordered this and let Grant pick the color, the next time the color was used was by another customer named Joel, hence the name. Grant also has or had a Joel Green Rivendell. It is a 56cm frame with a 56cm TT (unusual for Rivendell. I was at Rivendell and Grant measured me for this bike). It is a very comfortable bike to ride handles great, looks great, it is a Rivendell. Selling because I have not ridden it since a car accident (not with the bike) in June 2010 and I just don’t know if I will ever be able to ride it again. The bike needs a good cleaning, it has been in the basement unused for over 4 years. Other than that it is perfect in all ways. A couple of scratches but really not many. Low miles Here are some of the parts on the bike All of the Suntour parts were NOS when the build was done Albatross Bars Suntour Bar End shifters Brooks B68, honey Plastic Fenders Cyclone Rear D Cyclone Long Reach Breaks Superb Pro hubs Mavic MA2 rims TA Zepher triple (I got the last two in the country from what I was told) The pics make it look scratched, this is dirt and dust, just wiped a part down, looks almost new…. I suspect this will be the case with many of the pics, over 4 years without being touched. Font rings probably 48/38/28 I can check if needed Nitto Cages Nitto Stem (techmatic I think it was called, the longest one available at the time) Nitto Seat Post Campy Pedals (the ones that sell for over $80 a set) These show wear, scratches but VG condition, work well. Sachs or Suntour FW, probably 13-26 Rear Rack, inexpensive but works well Tires are 28mm, I think Roly Poly Panaracer Suntour XC Pro brake handles Bar Tape is shellaced Asking $2600 for complete bike plus shipping, talk to me on this... Frame only, we can discuss back channel on my email. Pics http://s60.photobucket.com/user/guitone/library/Rivendell%20Road%20FS?sort=4page=1 More current but indoor pics taken with a flash http://s1374.photobucket.com/user/jrstern11/library/Rivendell?sort=3page=1 Also the Bleriot is a 55CM, many of the same type parts, Sugino Crank (triple), mostly NOS Suntour except the barcons which are in excellent condition.. Nifty Swifty tires, those Velocity Rims. More accurate list Nitto stem (techmatic) , seatpost Sugino triple, 48/38/28 i believe Sachs or Suntour FW, 13-26 Suntour bar ebd shifters these were used but very clean, Velocity synergy rims, Nifty Swifty tires, Brooks saddle Blackburn rack
[RBW] Re: Thin Tires on a Hunqapillar
One wheelset for my Bombadil has 650x42 Hetres and it rides great. I'm tempted to take it on a long brevet with those tires. The flexibility to use multiple tire widths is one of the great things with all of my Rivendells. jim m wc ca On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 11:25:56 PM UTC-7, Kevin Lindsey wrote: I read a piece on the Internet a couple of days ago in which the author swapped the 50-something tires on his Hunq for 38s or 40s. He wasn't into single-tracking and was trying to make the bike into a better (read faster) commuter. Has anyone in the Group tried the thin tire route on a Hunq and, if so, what were your impressions? All the best, Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Fund my Clem sale!
Thanks, Jay! I hadn't considered that. Also, the bike is for sale locally, so if you're feeling froggy, jump! On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 5:11:27 PM UTC-4, jay hartman wrote: I haven't looked them up, but some of the brightly anodized early 90's mtb parts are becoming collectible. I wouldn't be surprised if you could get $200 or more for the cranks alone, depending on condition. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Bike shop mechanics answer this:
Yes I have , but like everyone else , has anyone tested 2 identical bikes , one with a threaded construction of 1 , and the other threadless of 1-1/8 ? Maybe a few frame builders have, but not the public. A direct comparison like this would be truest . That said though, I recognize it can be easier to adjust for some . however I have no problem with threaded ones as I grew up with them. Also, how often are they overhauled, once a year ? I have an American Classic Trilock catridge bearing headset on one bike, which was a brilliant idea, requiring only one 2.5mm allen wrench . The fork can be taken off without the bearings coming out . Now long defunct , sadly . But there is a brilliant implementation of a threaded design independent of 32mm wrenches . Surely there could have been others. As far as flex, I've never noted it once it in my life of riding , even back in the day racing with long Cinelli XA stems and bars and a strapping 200+ pounds , lol. Even if there was , did it make any difference in any way as far as the quality of the ride and moment ? Nope ! I guarantee not even a pro racer would say man, it was that stiff bike that propelled my to victory . Adjustments and versatility/flexibility is where threaded/quills shine though. The threadless system , while touting it's improvements in the end also becomes more limiting , just like the threaded in it's own way. We call this progress ! It's this way with all human inventions though . But all this is relative to the perceiver , and so it is with opinions ;) And a very merry Good nite ! On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 4:05:03 PM UTC-4, Jim M. wrote: Have you ridden threadless? It flexes much less than threaded, which some will find reassuring, especially on rough terrain rides. To the home mechanic it offers the advantage of being simpler to install and is less finicky to adjust. jim m wc ca On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 12:23:34 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: What is the benefit of threadless to the consumer/rider, Garth? I do not see it. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Bike shop mechanics answer this:
Prior to purchasing my Sam Hillborne I was interested in the Trek 520. The problem was I couldn't get the handlebars high enough. I wanted them at least seat height. I emailed Trek to see if a dealer could order one for me with the steering tube uncut. Here is their reply: No, unfortunately the steer tubes are not able to be ordered uncut. There is a maximum amount of steer tube that can be showing above the headset, so for liability reasons we cannot recommend a longer one than what comes stock on the bike. Will Trek HQ Waterloo, WI Answered at 1:35 PM on Tuesday, October 5, 2010 On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 9:38:07 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote: How do you determine where to cut the steerer tubes on your threadless floor model road bikes when assembling? Is there a standard human bar height that works for everyone shops go by? Do you cut them higher for LHTruckers and other touring models? My local shops cut low but sometimes they do some a little higher than usual. Was wondering. With RBW bikes, we have slot of options with quill stems. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Clem with drop bars
I am considering it. Figure it won't hurt to try. Cant wait to find out. The recent post about Clem and Hunq geometries being similar is making me think this may not be that bad of an idea. Until this fall, it's all just guessing and speculation, at least for me. Best, Charles On Saturday, March 21, 2015 at 9:14:23 AM UTC-5, Steven Sweedler wrote: Is anyone considering using drop bars on their Clem build. The 61 cm tt on the 59 is not too long for me. I am a new member to this group, been a fairly quiet member of ibob and CR for many years. I have a Rivendell Road, 96, and last fall bought a 2000 AR. Main interest is cycletouring, returned this week from 3 months in Mexico. Steve Plymouth, New Hampshire -- Steven Sweedler Plymouth, New Hampshire -- Steven Sweedler Plymouth, New Hampshire -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Redlands Strada Rossa 2015
Hey all, I made my annual trip from Va. to L.A. to see my sister and ride with bro-in-law, Ian - and of course do a repeat of the Strada Rossa! These two albums are from Ian's and my ride last Saturday doing the Redlands Inland Empire Biking Alliance mixed-surface 50k / 100k group ride: *https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/sets/72157649271649764/* Our Sunday post-ride ride was as much fun, thanks to David (cyclotourist) Estes giving up his day to guide us through Redlands and up to the single track riding in the Crafton Hills Trails: *https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/sets/72157649295487053/* David's wife, Holly and family treated us to a great lunch after - on very short notice! Thanks Holly! Ian rode his Rivendell Atlantis with fat Smart Sams and I rode his Rivendell Homer Hilsen (one size too large) with Schwable Dureme's. That hard packed stuff was not a problem on those stout bikes. I was glad to have plenty of east coast single tracking experience though! Bikes seen along the way ranged from carbon fiber CX bikes, to all-steel like ours, to mountain bikes. Fun for all. Great fun both days, but that California sun is hard on a east-coast guy! I came back with a farmer's tan! Paul Germain Midlothian, Va. On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 2:08:57 PM UTC-4, hsmitham wrote: We had another great ride out in cyclotourist country. David was a great host, we had gourmet pizza craft beer. The day of the ride was superb! We had Paul Germain visiting from Virginia for the second year riding his brother in laws A.A.H. and Ian on his custom red Atlantis, Biketinker Phillip came down from Northern Cal with Jacquie Phelan representing. Jim, Estaban Aaron were seen climbing some awesome single track. This is short so others can fill in any details I miss. Here's some images: https://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalpusher61/with/16285457244/ Cheers, ~Hugh Los Angeles, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Bargain Atlantis in Virginia
I saw this at the Velo Classique sale in Purcellville, VA, which is not far from DC. 54 or 55 Atlantis 2 complete bike, $1200. Seems like a screamin' deal. Sorry i didnt take a good look at the build but did notice Ultegra STI levers and a funky-looling black crank. Had a pretty nice rear rack. Thie stores phone is (540) 338-8376, im posting only because their web presence is a little sparse. You may not reach them if you call Sun as the sale is upstairs from the regular store. No relation to seller, just thought someone here might be interested. Cheers, Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Bargain Atlantis in Virginia
Hi Steve, Anything else to report from this sale? On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 7:17:48 PM UTC-4, islaysteve wrote: I saw this at the Velo Classique sale in Purcellville, VA, which is not far from DC. 54 or 55 Atlantis 2 complete bike, $1200. Seems like a screamin' deal. Sorry i didnt take a good look at the build but did notice Ultegra STI levers and a funky-looling black crank. Had a pretty nice rear rack. Thie stores phone is (540) 338-8376, im posting only because their web presence is a little sparse. You may not reach them if you call Sun as the sale is upstairs from the regular store. No relation to seller, just thought someone here might be interested. Cheers, Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Bike shop mechanics answer this:
It's good for those wanting the absolute lightest and stiffest setups , mostly racers and such enthusiasts. Any ride/rider/organization etc. that is concerned with time , is racing ;) Except when it's for dinner I suppose and you're mouth is watering . Exemption there . LoL ! It's more convenient if the bike needs frequent disassembly for travel, far from the masses though. Oh yes, I suspect it is really the best though for the manufacturers . Less labor cost , less stems to make and stock . For the rest of us, yes quills are just fine . I even use a quill threadless adapter on one bike myself. As much as I prefer threaded setups, I've never really like the 7 style -17 degree stems . I wish they made silver zero degree quills in long tall lengths , but the only one is Profile black welded one. So I use a VO/Genetic Quill adapter with the least offensive threaded stem I could find(Koski) , and they don't eve make it anymore as I guess it was deemed too heavy or what I don't know. Sure the setup looks a little odd from the side, but I don't look at my bikes except from above while riding and from there it looks completely normal , just wider. Here is an article about the two types, slanted toward threadless. http://www.adventurecycling.org/default/assets/resources/headsets.pdf On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 3:23:34 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: What is the benefit of threadless to the consumer/rider, Garth? I do not see it. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bike shop mechanics answer this:
29ers are even worse. There are a lot of XL 29ers out there with a 100~110mm head tube. It's ridiculous. To get the bars at saddle height, us tall folks will need 50-80mm of spacers, which looks dorky. Eric On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 1:43 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I wish Surly would have proportionately taller head tubes on their bikes. They are across the board 20-30mm too short IMHO. The 60cm Crosscheck for example has a 160mm headtube. To my way of thinking, that should be 190mm. 180 would be a good compromise. Then you could get rid of 30mm of spacers on the steerer, which would help it look cleaner and less hacky. I guess they don't want to alienate the 'Slam dat stem' crowd... :-) On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote: The vast majority of production bikes come with pre-cut steerers, and how much they are cut depends on the manufacturer. Generally it's rare to have more than 40mm of adjustment above the headset upper. In fact, the fork is usually fully installed, and all we do at the shop is maybe install the stem and assure proper headset adjustment. I usually like to move the stem to its highest possible setting (top of the spacer stack, flipped for rise). The QBP brands (Salsa and Surly) are a notable exception, with every size coming with a fork that has yet to be installed, with the steerer uncut and without the star nut not pressed in. When I was service manager at a shop, I mandated that we leave the steerers uncut on these bikes. However, that does make things difficult with a lot of customers who don't understand how threadless forks work or why anyone would want to run their bars that high. Their aesthetic first impressions (all too often a critical part of bike buying) are totally thrown off by the spacer stack, and if they test ride the bike with a normal stem height they're unnerved by the extra spacer stack above the stem threatening to poke them in the solar plexus. So, there are downsides for the retailer who leaves them uncut. Yes, Rivendell avoids all this with 1 threaded headsets and quill stems but from a mechanical perspective, threadless is really superior. With steel steerer tubes there is no practical limit to how high you can run the bars above the headset. In fact, a high bar setup feels much more solid with a threadless stem than with a quill stem, and headset adjustment is far easier. Of course, as James and others have pointed out, achieving Riv-esque bar height with a threadless setup requires slightly more deliberate choices on the part of the bike designer and bike assembler. With carbon steerers becoming de rigeur on high-end bikes, there is much more of a practical limit on how high you want to run a stem. I'm sure different manufacturers would say different things but I would never want to run a carbon fork with more that about 40 or 50mm of spacers max. On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 9:38:07 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote: How do you determine where to cut the steerer tubes on your threadless floor model road bikes when assembling? Is there a standard human bar height that works for everyone shops go by? Do you cut them higher for LHTruckers and other touring models? My local shops cut low but sometimes they do some a little higher than usual. Was wondering. With RBW bikes, we have slot of options with quill stems. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] FS, Rivendell Custom Road 56cm, Bleriot 55cm
FS, 2 bikes, i will be traveling and leaving 4/18 and returning 6/14. Access to internet not a probkem. Pics available. Will consider oarting out Road. Prefer to sell bleriot as is. Bleriot ridden just a handfull of times, new condition, moslty NOS PARTS, MOST Suntour. Velocity Synergy wheels. Road Custom, 56cm ST, 56cm TT. ALSO mosltly suntour parts, MA2 wheels. Bikes not ridden since 2010 when i had a car accident. 2 surgeries later it it time to let them go. Pics available http://s1374.photobucket.com/user/jrstern11/library/Rivendell?sort=3page=1 http://s1374.photobucket.com/user/jrstern11/library/Bleriot?sort=3page=1 Would like plus shipping $2600 for Rivendell $1600 for Bleriot Thx If interested but timing is an issue i do not really expect to sell these till my return. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Velo Orange Yard Sale 3/28
Some really great deals to be had, definitely -- especially on complete bikes and frames (a couple of great vintage bikes for $300, including a super nice 70's Windsor). I got some prototype pedals, a fork, one of the nice filleted stems and a few odds and ends for under $90. They also had a bunch of orphaned aluminum fenders of various sizes and styles for $5. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Coffee Outside
I'd heard good things about aeropress but haven't sprung for one myself. Backpacking and camping, I've used this: http://www.amazon.com/Thermos-34-Ounce-Insulated-Stainless-Steel-Gourmet/dp/B4S1DB These are a little on the larger size but make good coffee and keep it warm for a while. They are durable so you load bags of coffee inside, find a place to strap it on and not worry about it knocking about. John On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 8:41:28 AM UTC-7, Kellie wrote: Im gearing up to do this activity on the weekends. I'm wondering what people use for coffee outside, and a list of items one shouldn't leave home without. Add your photos as well. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Tips for Quick beam for long, mountain rides
I hear you, Andy. We're likely to get snow for the next month and a half, though it's the spring kind that vanishes the next day or two in a wet sloppy mess. I was glad I got my ride in yesterday. Hard brain day today has me not doing too much, though I managed a family ride with everyone of 8 miles (my wife's just getting back into biking and she has the piccolo behind her as it doesn't work with my vertigo. I do get to haul our 2-year old on a seat in front of me. Makes my knees stick out like a bow-legged rider. Grin. Enjoy the weekend! With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Bike shop mechanics answer this:
What is the benefit of threadless to the consumer/rider, Garth? I do not see it. Dear Patrick, Well, here's my off-the-cuff list: 1. Easier adjustment, esp. when traveling, as a 32mm wrench on tour is a hassle, but a 5mm allen is quite easy. 2. Allows installation of a switch for internal lighting without falling really deep into bespoke-land (no braze-in 7/8 stub+7/8 clamp-on supercustom stem, but you might need a lathe to make the switch housing/star nut until someone commercializes a really good one). 3. Similar range of adjustability for the user (before you cut the steerer, the range is larger). 4. Doesn't seize in the steerer if neglected. 5. Doesn't distort the steerer if you buy a bike used from a ham-handed mechanic. 6. Readily available in most bike shops should something nasty happen to your bike. 7. Almost always comes with a removeable face plate. This is actually a big deal in my opinion until you've got your fit worked out on the bike. 8. Doesn't bottom out on the steerer butt when you decide to lower your stem. 8. The bikes models with threadless steerers are less expensive to manufacture and stock (one fork per range of fork rake, vs a fork for every size; no threading of the steerer required). Less expensive to produce, and less expensive to install, less expensive to sell. One hopes all that savings gets passed along to you, the user. 9. Quill stems are a non-starter for carbon-fiber steerers. If you like CF forks, and some really do, then threadless really is a better/safer design. 10. They're ordinarily lighter. I care, but not too terribly much. On the other hand, Threadless is: 1. Uglier. Even the silver ones. 2. Less flexible/stiffer (may be less comfortable on rough terrain). 3. More common (may not meet exclusivity targets). 4. Not easily drilled for use as a brake stop for centerpull/cantilever brakes 5. Require a shim if you use a 1 steerer and don't produce a custom 1 stem. There's a supply-chain reason for using 1 steerers for low-trail bikes, that isn't relevant here. 5. Did I mention they're something introduced at the height of the O/S steel craze, Stiffer is Better revolution, and were sold on that basis, despite mostly being a SKU reduction strategy and reducing the amount of hand fettling required to get a bike built at the shop? Any rider benefits are strictly ancillary to the manufacturing/stock/material arguments. Best Regards, Will William M. deRosset Fort Collins, CO On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 1:23:34 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hunq vs Clem
FWIW, my 51cm Hillborne and 52cm Bombadil have the same length head tubes at about 17cm. I would guess the 51 Hunqapillar and 52 Clem would be similiar. Looks like the head tubes match up in your overlay. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Coffee Outside
I have a few different setups. I like coffee gadgets. Two different stove setups: Trangia Mini. Packs pretty small about 3x6. Caldera Cone Keg. Packs into a 4x8 cylinder. The Caldera boils faster and is more fun as it uses an up-cycled Fosters can as the kettle. For grab and go the Trangia is better as you can pre-fill the burner. Grinders: Porlex mini is the best. Small and performs well. Coffee makers: Moka pot Aeropress Helix coffee dripper Super cheap Tiamo 102 plastic dripper that I have 400 filters for and cost $8 all in. Depends on what I feel like carrying. I can grind coffee at home with the moka pot. Just add water and put in on the burner. Helix packs the smallest and is the coolest design. Aeropress can make the best cup but is a little more fussy. The Porlex mini does pack mostly inside it. Tiamo was super cheap and I don't really care if something happens to it. It does make a good drip cup. Mug: Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen. Enameled steel. Lots of pictures of various setups on Flicker #coffeeoutside Rob At Ocean Air Cycles is a good source of info. He sells the Helix dripper and the Caldera Cone. -Dan On Mar 28, 2015, at 8:41 AM, Kellie kellie.staple...@gmail.com wrote: Im gearing up to do this activity on the weekends. I'm wondering what people use for coffee outside, and a list of items one shouldn't leave home without. Add your photos as well. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Bike shop mechanics answer this:
You know Jeremy , it's all about preference :) Threadless was touted as being superior from it's inception , but to who and with what parameters in mind must always be considered.There is definitely a place for both , as both have their pro and con which is an endless discussion not worthy of time here . It's kinda like the FW/Cassette thing, another system does not make the other obsolete or any less than it is . On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 1:18:47 PM UTC-4, Jeremy Till wrote: The vast majority of production bikes come with pre-cut steerers, and how much they are cut depends on the manufacturer. Generally it's rare to have more than 40mm of adjustment above the headset upper. In fact, the fork is usually fully installed, and all we do at the shop is maybe install the stem and assure proper headset adjustment. I usually like to move the stem to its highest possible setting (top of the spacer stack, flipped for rise). The QBP brands (Salsa and Surly) are a notable exception, with every size coming with a fork that has yet to be installed, with the steerer uncut and without the star nut not pressed in. When I was service manager at a shop, I mandated that we leave the steerers uncut on these bikes. However, that does make things difficult with a lot of customers who don't understand how threadless forks work or why anyone would want to run their bars that high. Their aesthetic first impressions (all too often a critical part of bike buying) are totally thrown off by the spacer stack, and if they test ride the bike with a normal stem height they're unnerved by the extra spacer stack above the stem threatening to poke them in the solar plexus. So, there are downsides for the retailer who leaves them uncut. Yes, Rivendell avoids all this with 1 threaded headsets and quill stems but from a mechanical perspective, threadless is really superior. With steel steerer tubes there is no practical limit to how high you can run the bars above the headset. In fact, a high bar setup feels much more solid with a threadless stem than with a quill stem, and headset adjustment is far easier. Of course, as James and others have pointed out, achieving Riv-esque bar height with a threadless setup requires slightly more deliberate choices on the part of the bike designer and bike assembler. With carbon steerers becoming de rigeur on high-end bikes, there is much more of a practical limit on how high you want to run a stem. I'm sure different manufacturers would say different things but I would never want to run a carbon fork with more that about 40 or 50mm of spacers max. On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 9:38:07 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote: How do you determine where to cut the steerer tubes on your threadless floor model road bikes when assembling? Is there a standard human bar height that works for everyone shops go by? Do you cut them higher for LHTruckers and other touring models? My local shops cut low but sometimes they do some a little higher than usual. Was wondering. With RBW bikes, we have slot of options with quill stems. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Bike shop mechanics answer this:
Have you ridden threadless? It flexes much less than threaded, which some will find reassuring, especially on rough terrain rides. To the home mechanic it offers the advantage of being simpler to install and is less finicky to adjust. jim m wc ca On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 12:23:34 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: What is the benefit of threadless to the consumer/rider, Garth? I do not see it. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Bike shop mechanics answer this:
Thanks, Will. I still don't get it, but then I don't get why shoes aren't foot shaped, have a raised heel, cushioning, and support either. Sardonic grin. 1: Are they really that hard to adjust? I've figured it out and go touring without headset wrenches and have never had an issue. Not to say I won't, but can it really be so hard? 3: I've seen many threadless bikes (often Surlys around here, and I'm only looking at the L and XL) that have no way to get to the right handlebar height, but a threaded headset would allow that were it on the same bike. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hunq vs Clem
Jim, regarding your thoughts, I'm with you to that extent. Certainly the wheelbase, bb drop, tire size, fork rake, head tube angle, seat tube angle and all that go together to form how the thing rides. But I guess what I was going for is how you choose to build it up to fit it mostly matters in the main triangle. I suspect the Clem will always have those mellower riding aspects to it, the long wheelbase alone will see to it that it always has a specific feel to the ride. But, it's like with my roadster. If I leave the default stem and north-roads on, it's a medium upright bike, but low enough to get out of the wind. If I flip the bars I can get a pretty sporty ride out of it, despite the long wheelbase. Right now I have it built for neighborhood rides with a big old Technomic, and it rides much slower than it used to because I've built it into upright positions now. The frame dictates a certain ride feel, but it's got a lot of flex in how I utilize that, from cafe racer all the way up to stately cruiser. I just feel the Clem's frame is like that. It's not like some frames I've seen that really do force a certain type of build. I think it's going to always have a smooth and staid ride, and not be overly agile or sporty feeling, but I'm excited to see how it works for builds outside Grant's suggestions. I have no doubt it will be a great townie, I'm just curious to see how it does for those other things he hinted it could be too. On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 12:17:39 PM UTC-4, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: IME, relying upon one (or two, or three...) aspect(s) of the geometry never really translates to real-world behavior. Patrick and others touch on this above. Back when low-trail was in fact the New Low Trail™ I was lucky enough to have a few longer conversations with Grant about the urge to swap out forks on Riv models. Or the push to just offer it with a different fork. While it would be difficult to distill all the topics covered, one major take away was an awareness of how many small factors add up to the ride of a given bicycle. For example, riding one of the Appaloosa models is nothing like what it appears from a side view. I've ridden a number of long bikes (Big Dummy style) and there was none of the rental truck navigation required to maneuver it . It was a bike designed for a specific posture that rode like a Rivendell. Which, yes, I realize does veer to the realm of non-measurable perception. But, over the past years, GP has quietly developed a model which works with upright non-racing bars, but behaves like a bicycle you want to ride, not a cruiser or hauler or some almost-a-bike derivation. The branch of the Mystery Bike / Appaloosa / Cheviot / Clem is certainly interesting. Deciding which model is right for your needs probably has a lot to do which what other bicycle (if any) might be available. Great discussion! - Jim / cyclofiend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion
what are they using in terms of stem? =- Joe Bunik Walnut Creek, CA On 3/26/15, Jim A jamesmarionberryashleywal...@gmail.com wrote: It is indeed 1 threadless. Slightly strange choice. But I have built up a couple of the frames and like them. On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 1:25:21 PM UTC-7, Eddie Flayer wrote: it says 1 inch headset, so must be 1 inch threadless steerer. If in doubt, send them an email. On Friday, February 14, 2014 at 7:40:06 PM UTC-8, eflayer wrote: http://newalbioncycles.com/ Makes me wonder if, or the degree to which, Grant Peterson may be associated with these bikes. Not sure how they are differentiated from Soma, but some nice stuff coming. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: WTB (or trade for): rear hub
Pacenti PL23 is a pretty lightweight rim (maybe the lightest 650b rim on the market), the walls are thinner than Synergy, I think it will offer less dent protection. I'm a big fan of Shimano rear hubs, especially the ones that are last years or earlier models on closeout. I think shimano hubs are about the quietest of the ratchet systems, wasn't there some brand with a ring clutch though that was even quieter? Where did you find the 5500 in 36h? I think Riv only has them in 32h for the rear. -Dave J On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 11:23:03 AM UTC-4, Tim Gavin wrote: I'm looking for a rear hub. Let me know what spares you have, or if you know of a great deal. 130 mm OLD 8/9/10 speed cassette freehub 36 hole Silver body Quiet pawls (no loud angry bee hubs) I'd like something high quality; I'm currently riding the Phil freewheel hub original to my '97 Riv and it's butter-smooth (with new bearings). I will build it up with a new Pacenti PL23 rim. I keep denting Synergy OC rims (2 since September, the cheapo ZAC19 I had before was dent free). I see my new options as: White Industries T11 or MI5 ~$325 Paul RHUB ~$325 (noisy?) Phil Wood ~$410 Velo Orange Grand Cru Touring ~$110 Ultegra 6700 ~$100 105 5500 ~$55 Any other good options? What do I gain (besides MUSA) by going with the Paul or White Industries vs. the Ultegra or Grand Cru? Are any of the ones I listed noisy, and I don't know it yet? Also, anyone know a great price for spokes? Best I see is ~$.80 per (in quantities of 50 or 100). Items I offer in trade: Nitto Big Front rack (excellent condition) Sackville Trunksack Large Olive (good condition) Revelate Tangle frame bag, Large (brand new) Nitto Moustache bars, Dirt Drop 8 stem, and Dia-compe non-aero brake levers Campagnolo Athena 9-speed (old) Ergo brake/shifters -- good hoods, work great, come with free Race Triple RD if wanted (free b/c it has a crack in the mount knuckle). These index shift 9 speed Campy or 7 speed whatever (set up on a freewheel currently). Works fine with a triple, Race Triple FD also available. Thanks! Tim Gavin Cedar Rapids, IA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Ram with 38s (third eights)!!!!!
Looks like Matt got a great bike. I hope he rides the hell out of it like Grant intended. On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 7:25:06 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: Matt Isaacs just emailed me with this photo of the frame I sold him, built up with Compas 38s!!! -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu *Kinei hos eromenon. It moves as the being-loved. *Aristotle *The Love that moves the Sun and all the other stars. *Dante -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Redlands Strada Rossa 2015
I think I have all the albums compiled here... let me know if I forgot somebody! These show the perspective of the lugs leather crowd pretty nicely! Paul's: https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/sets/72157649271649764/ Hugh's: https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/sets/72157649271649764/ Esteban's: https://www.flickr.com/photos/25671211@N02/16929993845/ Jim's: https://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/sets/72157651544957831 Mine: https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157651165005667/ Philip's: https://www.flickr.com/photos/philipwilliamson/16716596259/ On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 4:17 PM, 'Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote: Hey all, I made my annual trip from Va. to L.A. to see my sister and ride with bro-in-law, Ian - and of course do a repeat of the Strada Rossa! These two albums are from Ian's and my ride last Saturday doing the Redlands Inland Empire Biking Alliance mixed-surface 50k / 100k group ride: *https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/sets/72157649271649764/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/sets/72157649271649764/* Our Sunday post-ride ride was as much fun, thanks to David (cyclotourist) Estes giving up his day to guide us through Redlands and up to the single track riding in the Crafton Hills Trails: *https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/sets/72157649295487053/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/sets/72157649295487053/* David's wife, Holly and family treated us to a great lunch after - on very short notice! Thanks Holly! Ian rode his Rivendell Atlantis with fat Smart Sams and I rode his Rivendell Homer Hilsen (one size too large) with Schwable Dureme's. That hard packed stuff was not a problem on those stout bikes. I was glad to have plenty of east coast single tracking experience though! Bikes seen along the way ranged from carbon fiber CX bikes, to all-steel like ours, to mountain bikes. Fun for all. Great fun both days, but that California sun is hard on a east-coast guy! I came back with a farmer's tan! Paul Germain Midlothian, Va. On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 2:08:57 PM UTC-4, hsmitham wrote: We had another great ride out in cyclotourist country. David was a great host, we had gourmet pizza craft beer. The day of the ride was superb! We had Paul Germain visiting from Virginia for the second year riding his brother in laws A.A.H. and Ian on his custom red Atlantis, Biketinker Phillip came down from Northern Cal with Jacquie Phelan representing. Jim, Estaban Aaron were seen climbing some awesome single track. This is short so others can fill in any details I miss. Here's some images: https://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalpusher61/with/16285457244/ Cheers, ~Hugh Los Angeles, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Ram with 38s (third eights)!!!!!
That looks just right. What a nice looking ride. dougP On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 7:25:06 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: Matt Isaacs just emailed me with this photo of the frame I sold him, built up with Compas 38s!!! -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu *Kinei hos eromenon. It moves as the being-loved. *Aristotle *The Love that moves the Sun and all the other stars. *Dante -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] The aftermath of my recent car vs. bike hit and run.
Wow. That person is not good. Deep breath. In. Out. Slow. Nice of them to go around you after they slid you off the hood? I'm really glad you're recovering, and that your morale is so good! Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Bike shop mechanics answer this:
Threadless is easy to reallocate bars across different bikes, easy to resize a bike for a very different sized rider, easy to drop a fork out of a frame for whatever reason. Easy to buy a new stem in a bike shop. I've never had a stuck threadless stem. All my threadless parts are interchangeable, which is not true of my quill stem bikes. Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Bike shop mechanics answer this:
The shop where I bought my Disc Trucker doesn't cut steerers at all until fitted and sold, and then they really encourage leaving an extra inch and a half to two inches extra, just to be sure before making it shorter. A benefit of the threadless paradigm. Actually handy if the the ideal stem is too hard to find. An alternate of both extension and rise may solve the perfect position of the bar, as long as enough steerer remains to adjust up for an alternate stem with no rise. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 12:38:07 AM UTC-4, lungimsam wrote: How do you determine where to cut the steerer tubes on your threadless floor model road bikes when assembling? Is there a standard human bar height that works for everyone shops go by? Do you cut them higher for LHTruckers and other touring models? My local shops cut low but sometimes they do some a little higher than usual. Was wondering. With RBW bikes, we have slot of options with quill stems. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Bike shop mechanics answer this:
Many if not most complete bikes sold in shops come already cut with the stem installed , at least it was when I worked in the biz putting them together from the box. Some brands, like a Surly of course, do not. But I'm talking your mainstream bike shops here , like those that sell the Trek, Bianchi and such . It really depends on not only the shop , but where the bike is. Is it on the floor already complete ? Too late obviously. If yet unassembled then of course you hopefully have some say, if not leave the store . I noticed on Surly's website though, that* they use the same steering tube length on ALL their frame sizes* ! So while a small frame will have a huge option for cutting, the tallest frames may have zero to little if you want high-er bars. It seems to me to be a step backwards, if you're going to do business that way . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: I think I'm underutilizing my Bosco bars...
If I were holding my bosco bars in the air, I wouldn't be smiling like that On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 1:30:08 PM UTC-5, A. L Young wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQBbHzypBro Riv content: a golden bicycle, of course. Aaron Young The Dalles, OR -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: brake advice
I wanted to add some more to my brake impression. Been riding the Tektro 720s for a bit longer. You can take the Riv evaluation (on their site) as gospel. The brakes are strong, they modulate really well and they are good looking. If you are running mid-40s tires and want something that is inexpensive and works like top-of-the-line, these brakes are the answer. I really like them. I especially like the straddle system. You can lock the wire at the straddle, then adjust the springs at the calipers. This means dead-on, reliable, rim-contact performance. It's fine-tuning that you have to experience to appreciate. On Saturday, March 21, 2015 at 7:31:35 PM UTC-5, Will wrote: I almost did Moto-Lites, but 2 things got in the way: 1) I want to install a Tubus Logo Evo and the area looked conflicted for Moto-lites, and 2) the Atlantis has a very nice arched brake bridge that would get abandoned. Which seemed wrong. Brian, at Riv, reco'd the CX-70 cantis, which I strongly suspect will become my ending solution, once I change to 55s. In the meantime, it occurred to me that I had a set of Riv's Tektro 720s on a project bike. So I re-read the Riv blurb on them, and liked it, especially since I'm running a relatively new set of touring 45s under the P65s. And so... I installed the 720s this afternoon and gave them an 8 mile loop. Very, very, nice. Will On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 5:03:05 PM UTC-5, Kurt Manley wrote: In addition., while I have canti's on three bikes I have been lusting after the improved power of v brakes. I'd take Pauls recco and go Moto lite On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 2:59:39 PM UTC-7, Kurt Manley wrote: What type of brake levers are you planning on running? The motolites that Paul recommended are long pull, all the others are short pull. The mini motos are designed so you can run a linear pull brake with an sti or other short pull lever without using an adapter. Unless you're running short pull levers I'd do motolites with matching long pull levers if you want v brakes. If you already have levers then look at the mini moto. I have Paul neo-retro (wide canti's) and shimano cx-70s on two different bikes and while the pauls look nicer I have to deflate the tire to remove it. The cx-70s work pretty much the same but I don't have to deflate to remove. This might not seem like a big deal but it's a pain. And this is from someone who almost never put's his bike in a car. On Sunday, March 15, 2015 at 3:00:20 PM UTC-7, Will wrote: I have a new-to-me Atlantis that needs brakes. I've just installed P65 Longboards and am thinking about either Paul Touring Cantilevers or Paul Mini-Motos. Any/all experience is solicited. I want to get this right. Thanks Will -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] FS: Nitto Noodle handlebar, 42 cm, $50 shipped CONUS
From the Ram. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu *Kinei hos eromenon. It moves as the being-loved. *Aristotle *The Love that moves the Sun and all the other stars. *Dante -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: f/s Thomson Masterpiece 27.2 x 240mm zero offset seatpost
excellent David - glad you like it. On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 2:16:59 AM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Delivered today, thanks! That thing is freaky-light! Love having it on my Salsa as I can get away with the scarring. Too much beasuage for a Riv! :-) On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 6:49 PM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: done here - thanks ! On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 5:53:49 PM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: This is a good deal for someone willing to live with a scarred post - no burrs or rough spots, but has some nasty lighting bolts and vertical lines in the finish. Had it on my Moser road bike and it should have worked, but continued to squat on me, and got marked up having to pull it back up on the side of the road. (Finally solved that problem with a Super Record quill post.) Tried using this on a new bike, where it clamped Perfectly, but that bike badly needed offset. This is the lightest alloy seatpost made, all one-piece machined (nothing pressed), and weighs a published 157g (lighter than some carbon posts) http://weightweenies.starbike.com/listings/components.php?type=seatposts Max height is 175mm Nominal new price is $150, best new price is $120 incl shipping. I'll sell this one for $45 including priority mail. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/F%20Moser/post.jpg please reply offline thanks for looking -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Thin Tires on a Hunqapillar
You can ride any tire you want , it's just a say 28mm tire won't be so comfy ;) . Just because a frame can take wide tires and most appear to ride them means nothing . It's your bike, your ride , your life , your joy :) That said, on my Bombadil I ride Vittoria Voyager Hypers in the 38/40mm width, about 39 actual on Mavic A719's. These are a light, supple sweet riding and zippy tire. They're like super size supple road tires . Many here like their Compass tires also FWIW, I've not ridden them nor likely will try them any time soon . I've grown rather fond of black sidewalls with reflector strips ! If you're not familiar with the Bombadil , it's the tank before the Hunqa tank came out . ... . lol . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Thin Tires on a Hunqapillar
I ride mostly all on road too. These tires would be suitable for dry non technical dirt trails of course also. I run them between 40-50 psi . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hunq vs Clem
I enjoyed the comparison of the Clem and Hunq. Nice layover. Just out of curiosity, what size Hunq was compared to the Clem 52? I ask because I have been communicate with Riv and 2 of the choices that I have been given is a 52 Clem and a 54 Hunq. They say that the Clem 52 would give me a couple of CM of extra standover height. Still trying to decide between the Clem, Hunq, and Sam. I was just trying to determine if spending the extra money on the Hunq was worth it or not. I know the Hunq has nicer tubing, lugs, and paint which drives up the price. My big issue is that I'm a tough fit due to lack of flexibility and I have slightly shorter arms than a male of my height. My PBH is 83. I wonder which one would give me the most options of seat heights and bar heights. I almost think that the Clem would. I seem to like my bars 2 to 4 inches above seat level, but yet not where I'm sitting straight upright. For a visual (just viewing the seat and handlebars), the pic of the 59 Clem Anthracite looks like what I am trying to achieve in terms of bars above seat level and distance from seat to bars. To do that on the Hunq and Sam, I'm afraid that I would need to get the max sized frame which would allow the least standover height which then would limit how wide of a tire that I can use. Anyone know the max standover height on the Hunq size 54 with the widest accepted tire? Anyone know the max standover height of the Sam 55 with the widest accepted tire? On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 1:52:49 PM UTC-4, DSat wrote: Anyone can compare the two that has had experience with one or both? What's different? What's the same? Ride the same? Ride different? One heavier vs one lighter? One more upright than the other? I know the Clem is designed for swept back bars such as the Alba's or Bosco. I know the Hunq would be 700 tires vs 650 for the Clem. I know the Clem has longer chainstays. What would be the reason to spend the extra $$$ for the Hunq over the Clem? I am talking the Hunq 54 vs the Clem 52 (though that probably don't matter) Any input appreciated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Thin Tires on a Hunqapillar
I can't answer that precisely. But can get you closer. I have an Atlantis, running 44s-45s. The bike is well behaved and fast. My 559x45s roll faster than my son's 700x35s. Meaning when we are riding together, coasting on downslopes, I always catch him. We weigh the same (within about 5 pounds) Both bikes are running tires with similar tread, i.e. smooth surface. Based on Atlantis, I would not go into the 30s for a tire. I'd get something slick in the mid-40s. Kojaks come to mind. There are a number of choices. If the Hunq rides like an Atlantis, I would not hesitate to commute with it, in fact I would prefer it. On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 1:25:56 AM UTC-5, Kevin Lindsey wrote: I read a piece on the Internet a couple of days ago in which the author swapped the 50-something tires on his Hunq for 38s or 40s. He wasn't into single-tracking and was trying to make the bike into a better (read faster) commuter. Has anyone in the Group tried the thin tire route on a Hunq and, if so, what were your impressions? All the best, Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Thin Tires on a Hunqapillar
One way to find out! With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hunq vs Clem
The standover height of my Hunqapillar and Quickbeam in 90cm and my PBH is 90 cm, and I do just fine, including bikepacking on very rough terrain with the fattest tires I can get on there with the Hunqa. I think you'd be delighted with either and you should go with the one that you want. The Hunqapillar has plenty of flexibility and can easily be set up the way you describe. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Thin Tires on a Hunqapillar
I forgot to add that one of my possible plans for riding up Pikes Peak is the Hunqapillar with Barlow Pass feather light tires (38mm). I expect the Hunqapiller will ride beautifully with that setup. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Bike shop mechanics answer this:
Is there a limit to how high the bars can be above the upper headset bearing? The further they are above the bearing the greater the forces on the bearing from handlebar leverage. dougP On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 9:38:07 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote: How do you determine where to cut the steerer tubes on your threadless floor model road bikes when assembling? Is there a standard human bar height that works for everyone shops go by? Do you cut them higher for LHTruckers and other touring models? My local shops cut low but sometimes they do some a little higher than usual. Was wondering. With RBW bikes, we have slot of options with quill stems. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Thin Tires on a Hunqapillar
I used Conti contacts and marathon Dureme, both were 38-4mm, before switching to 50 mm Big Ben. I think the Big Ben are faster as well as more versatile. Something like a 35mm Pasela might be interesting, buyIng wouldn't want anything narrower. Marc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Bike shop mechanics answer this:
Tom and James, I remember I even called Surly to confirm it was not a typo as it did not make any sense , they said to just use a higher angle stem or an additional riser . Well, I thought, that's nobody I want to do business with . It kinda negates some of the benefit of the threadless concept . I reminds me how the mainstream bike biz has not changed it's ideas of fit, it reminds me of the 70's , lol. Come to think of , has anyone seen a large production bike(other than Riv) of any kind with a tall steering tube with lots of spacers or really high front end ? I've looked through endless google photos and have not found one ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Coffee Outside
aeropress, trangia kettle and windscreen, an actual ceramic mug, porlex grinder. don't forget matches or a lighter! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Bike shop mechanics answer this:
If there is Doug, it's gotta be pretty high ! Look at Bike Friday type of bike for example , the bars are way higher than on any road bike ! Tiny frame, huuuge steerer ! On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 12:26:37 PM UTC-4, dougP wrote: Is there a limit to how high the bars can be above the upper headset bearing? The further they are above the bearing the greater the forces on the bearing from handlebar leverage. dougP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hunq vs Clem
When I first saw your (very cool) overlay, I thought about wheel size discrepancies. I have a folder full of Hunq pics and I'm going to say the Hunqapillar is a 51, which has 26 wheels. The 54cm Hunq's have a much smaller gap at the top tube-head tube-down tube junction, due to the longer fork. The 52cm Clem would have 650B wheels so there should be a noticeable difference in the wheel sizes if the bikes are sized correctly. On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 11:00:32 AM UTC-5, Zed Martinez wrote: I don't know, it's the smaller Hunq frame pictured on the product page, and so either a 51 or 54 at that size. Since I didn't know for sure, I sized things more off the pedal and crankset instead of the seat tubes, there's definitely some margin for error involved. If anyone know what size the single TT Hunq pictured on the product page is I can probably do a more accurate overlay for sizing, but as this one is let's say it's an idealized apples to apples if you had a Hunq in the same frame size as the medium Clem, just to illustrate how close the main triangle geometries really are and the versatility the Clem /should/ theoretically offer if you, like me, would rather shoot for typical Riv touring than cruiser. I'm not nearly as expert as the other dudes on here for sizing. Based on the geometry comparisons and theory, the Hunq has a shorter chainstay and will seem to be more responsive to turning because it will follow your weight quicker, the Clem has much longer ones and will want to track straighter which to me is appealing for commuting and carrying loads, and then there's the top tube being slightly shorter on the Hunq which if I'm interpreting the expanded frame theory right means the handlebars should be able to start just slightly lower on the Hunq than the Clem for the same reach, but unless your saddle is all the way forwards it's probably not a big enough amount to matter. A 6 degree rise for 2cm longer hypotenuse shouldn't add too much height to the head tube, but it will add some. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Thin Tires on a Hunqapillar
Just an aside: it's funny that here 38-40 mm tires are on the narrow end of the spectrum. My Atlantis came with 35 mm Paselas, and I recall reading somewhere that the bike was designed for tires in the 35-50 mm range. Since then, 38-40 feels like the optimal size and looks perfectly normal. While I'm not aware of the referenced article, a lot depends on what tires are being compared, not only their size. If the Hunq rider replaced say a 50 mm Schwalbe Marathon Plus with a 38 mm Soma C-line or one of the Compass tires, the difference would be huge in both comfort and general zippiness. dougP On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 11:25:56 PM UTC-7, Kevin Lindsey wrote: I read a piece on the Internet a couple of days ago in which the author swapped the 50-something tires on his Hunq for 38s or 40s. He wasn't into single-tracking and was trying to make the bike into a better (read faster) commuter. Has anyone in the Group tried the thin tire route on a Hunq and, if so, what were your impressions? All the best, Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] FS: White Industries freewheel 19t
Hey Chris: Have you sent the freewheel? Cheers, Patrick On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Christopher Murray chrispmurra...@gmail.com wrote: It's yours!! Send me your info and I'll reply off list. chrispmurra...@gmail.com Thanks! Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Bike shop mechanics answer this:
The shop where I bought my Disc Trucker doesn't cut steerers at all until fitted and sold, and then they really encourage leaving an extra inch and a half to two inches extra, just to be sure before making it shorter. Exactly. This makes a lot of sense to me, especially for buyers who know they won't be leaning over terribly far. Beth -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Coffee Outside
This is my favorite coffee maker: http://www.bialetti.com/www.bialetti.com/coffee/stovetop/moka-express-c-1_7_22.html If I was doing a longer trip, I take something lighter, but for a coffee excursion it packs fine. jim m wc ca On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 8:41:28 AM UTC-7, Kellie wrote: Im gearing up to do this activity on the weekends. I'm wondering what people use for coffee outside, and a list of items one shouldn't leave home without. Add your photos as well. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Coffee Outside
A wee dram of whisky couldn't hurt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: FS 58 cm Cromo Bosco BullMoose bars
Hi Peter, Have you sent the bars or can you please provide me with an update? It has been about a month and a half since I paid you. I have been trying to contact you and haven't heard back. Thanks, Richard On Wednesday, February 18, 2015 at 9:41:47 AM UTC-8, Peter M wrote: All good, PayPal at this address with your address when u get a chance. At work, cant talk bikes, haha. On Feb 18, 2015 12:37 PM, Richard Rios richard...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Hi Peter I am interested in the bars. I apologize for the post as I Don't know how to pm from my phone. Please feel free to contact me at 909 910-7424 as to where I can send PayPal payment. thank you, Richard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Bike shop mechanics answer this:
The vast majority of production bikes come with pre-cut steerers, and how much they are cut depends on the manufacturer. Generally it's rare to have more than 40mm of adjustment above the headset upper. In fact, the fork is usually fully installed, and all we do at the shop is maybe install the stem and assure proper headset adjustment. I usually like to move the stem to its highest possible setting (top of the spacer stack, flipped for rise). The QBP brands (Salsa and Surly) are a notable exception, with every size coming with a fork that has yet to be installed, with the steerer uncut and without the star nut not pressed in. When I was service manager at a shop, I mandated that we leave the steerers uncut on these bikes. However, that does make things difficult with a lot of customers who don't understand how threadless forks work or why anyone would want to run their bars that high. Their aesthetic first impressions (all too often a critical part of bike buying) are totally thrown off by the spacer stack, and if they test ride the bike with a normal stem height they're unnerved by the extra spacer stack above the stem threatening to poke them in the solar plexus. So, there are downsides for the retailer who leaves them uncut. Yes, Rivendell avoids all this with 1 threaded headsets and quill stems but from a mechanical perspective, threadless is really superior. With steel steerer tubes there is no practical limit to how high you can run the bars above the headset. In fact, a high bar setup feels much more solid with a threadless stem than with a quill stem, and headset adjustment is far easier. Of course, as James and others have pointed out, achieving Riv-esque bar height with a threadless setup requires slightly more deliberate choices on the part of the bike designer and bike assembler. With carbon steerers becoming de rigeur on high-end bikes, there is much more of a practical limit on how high you want to run a stem. I'm sure different manufacturers would say different things but I would never want to run a carbon fork with more that about 40 or 50mm of spacers max. On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 9:38:07 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote: How do you determine where to cut the steerer tubes on your threadless floor model road bikes when assembling? Is there a standard human bar height that works for everyone shops go by? Do you cut them higher for LHTruckers and other touring models? My local shops cut low but sometimes they do some a little higher than usual. Was wondering. With RBW bikes, we have slot of options with quill stems. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: I think I'm underutilizing my Bosco bars...
That was fun! Let's see BMXers do some of those stunts. And she did it with heels! Thanks Aaron. ~Hugh On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 11:30:08 AM UTC-7, A. L Young wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQBbHzypBro Riv content: a golden bicycle, of course. Aaron Young The Dalles, OR -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: The aftermath of my recent car vs. bike hit and run.
God bless you, David! I will be praying for you and your family. Don't worry about the bike. You can always buy another bike. But the world will never have another David Spranger! So I am glad you are on your way to recovery! May it be speedy and full! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] compass tires
I was told by compass that the wider tires were expected in summer 2015. Eileen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Coffee Outside
Im gearing up to do this activity on the weekends. I'm wondering what people use for coffee outside, and a list of items one shouldn't leave home without. Add your photos as well. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Coffee Outside
For absolutely best quality without consideration for space, aeropress with the stove of your choice. However, I use a Helix coffee cone with a fabric filter, Ocean Air Cycles has them: http://store.oceanaircycles.com/products/helix-coffee-dripper. It tastes nearly as good and is ridiculously light and compact. Cleaning the filter is a bit of a pain, but I'm going to take two fabric filters next time and rotate them so one can dry and thus clean easier. I brew into a 20 oz. insulated Klean Kanteen (more double use). I generally do coffee only when bikepacking, so my Firebox and Klean Kanteen work great with minimal space and multiple uses. Photo of the water boiling here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/16919782195/ With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hunq vs Clem
IME, relying upon one (or two, or three...) aspect(s) of the geometry never really translates to real-world behavior. Patrick and others touch on this above. Back when low-trail was in fact the New Low Trail™ I was lucky enough to have a few longer conversations with Grant about the urge to swap out forks on Riv models. Or the push to just offer it with a different fork. While it would be difficult to distill all the topics covered, one major take away was an awareness of how many small factors add up to the ride of a given bicycle. For example, riding one of the Appaloosa models is nothing like what it appears from a side view. I've ridden a number of long bikes (Big Dummy style) and there was none of the rental truck navigation required to maneuver it . It was a bike designed for a specific posture that rode like a Rivendell. Which, yes, I realize does veer to the realm of non-measurable perception. But, over the past years, GP has quietly developed a model which works with upright non-racing bars, but behaves like a bicycle you want to ride, not a cruiser or hauler or some almost-a-bike derivation. The branch of the Mystery Bike / Appaloosa / Cheviot / Clem is certainly interesting. Deciding which model is right for your needs probably has a lot to do which what other bicycle (if any) might be available. Great discussion! - Jim / cyclofiend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Bike shop mechanics answer this:
Garth, I found that aspect of Surly's sizing quite puzzling... I was looking at an Ogre in XXL for a while but in fact you can't get the bars any higher on an XXL than on a small. An extra 50 mm on the steerer and I would probably have bought one. It makes very little sense to me, but I guess that's threadless land for ya! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hunq vs Clem
I don't know, it's the smaller Hunq frame pictured on the product page, and so either a 51 or 54 at that size. Since I didn't know for sure, I sized things more off the pedal and crankset instead of the seat tubes, there's definitely some margin for error involved. If anyone know what size the single TT Hunq pictured on the product page is I can probably do a more accurate overlay for sizing, but as this one is let's say it's an idealized apples to apples if you had a Hunq in the same frame size as the medium Clem, just to illustrate how close the main triangle geometries really are and the versatility the Clem /should/ theoretically offer if you, like me, would rather shoot for typical Riv touring than cruiser. I'm not nearly as expert as the other dudes on here for sizing. Based on the geometry comparisons and theory, the Hunq has a shorter chainstay and will seem to be more responsive to turning because it will follow your weight quicker, the Clem has much longer ones and will want to track straighter which to me is appealing for commuting and carrying loads, and then there's the top tube being slightly shorter on the Hunq which if I'm interpreting the expanded frame theory right means the handlebars should be able to start just slightly lower on the Hunq than the Clem for the same reach, but unless your saddle is all the way forwards it's probably not a big enough amount to matter. A 6 degree rise for 2cm longer hypotenuse shouldn't add too much height to the head tube, but it will add some. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bike shop mechanics answer this:
I know. People say that with threadless, you can certainly get high bars; just leave the steer tube long. If it's steel, you can spacer it up to the moon, so they say. But in practice, I've noticed that the production bikes, no matter how many X's there are on the L, are made so that the bars still don't go that high. My XL Niner is an example. Rivendell is a notable exception, even on their rare threadless models. They keep the high bar a priority. (Also, what I consider too low has gone up in the last 15 years.) -Jim W. On Mar 28, 2015, at 8:43 AM, Tom Harrop wrote: Garth, I found that aspect of Surly's sizing quite puzzling... I was looking at an Ogre in XXL for a while but in fact you can't get the bars any higher on an XXL than on a small. An extra 50 mm on the steerer and I would probably have bought one. It makes very little sense to me, but I guess that's threadless land for ya! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net - 700x33 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bike shop mechanics answer this:
I wish Surly would have proportionately taller head tubes on their bikes. They are across the board 20-30mm too short IMHO. The 60cm Crosscheck for example has a 160mm headtube. To my way of thinking, that should be 190mm. 180 would be a good compromise. Then you could get rid of 30mm of spacers on the steerer, which would help it look cleaner and less hacky. I guess they don't want to alienate the 'Slam dat stem' crowd... :-) On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote: The vast majority of production bikes come with pre-cut steerers, and how much they are cut depends on the manufacturer. Generally it's rare to have more than 40mm of adjustment above the headset upper. In fact, the fork is usually fully installed, and all we do at the shop is maybe install the stem and assure proper headset adjustment. I usually like to move the stem to its highest possible setting (top of the spacer stack, flipped for rise). The QBP brands (Salsa and Surly) are a notable exception, with every size coming with a fork that has yet to be installed, with the steerer uncut and without the star nut not pressed in. When I was service manager at a shop, I mandated that we leave the steerers uncut on these bikes. However, that does make things difficult with a lot of customers who don't understand how threadless forks work or why anyone would want to run their bars that high. Their aesthetic first impressions (all too often a critical part of bike buying) are totally thrown off by the spacer stack, and if they test ride the bike with a normal stem height they're unnerved by the extra spacer stack above the stem threatening to poke them in the solar plexus. So, there are downsides for the retailer who leaves them uncut. Yes, Rivendell avoids all this with 1 threaded headsets and quill stems but from a mechanical perspective, threadless is really superior. With steel steerer tubes there is no practical limit to how high you can run the bars above the headset. In fact, a high bar setup feels much more solid with a threadless stem than with a quill stem, and headset adjustment is far easier. Of course, as James and others have pointed out, achieving Riv-esque bar height with a threadless setup requires slightly more deliberate choices on the part of the bike designer and bike assembler. With carbon steerers becoming de rigeur on high-end bikes, there is much more of a practical limit on how high you want to run a stem. I'm sure different manufacturers would say different things but I would never want to run a carbon fork with more that about 40 or 50mm of spacers max. On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 9:38:07 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote: How do you determine where to cut the steerer tubes on your threadless floor model road bikes when assembling? Is there a standard human bar height that works for everyone shops go by? Do you cut them higher for LHTruckers and other touring models? My local shops cut low but sometimes they do some a little higher than usual. Was wondering. With RBW bikes, we have slot of options with quill stems. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Bike shop mechanics answer this:
Nope! I looked and looked for something I could get the bars high enough on to use as a mountain bike, because at the time I couldn't afford a second Riv. My conclusion was Riv or custom (I didn't really look at oingo-boingos, though...). I suppose a custom fork with a long steerer for a Surly or Singular would've worked too. In the end I got lucky and scored a second-hand Bombadil frame on the Large Bicycles list. On Saturday, 28 March 2015 17:29:51 UTC+1, Garth wrote: Come to think of , has anyone seen a large production bike(other than Riv) of any kind with a tall steering tube with lots of spacers or really high front end ? I've looked through endless google photos and have not found one ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Coffee Outside
First step is to get out there. trial and error will teach what works for you. I've used lots of stuff for Coffee Outside, biking, backpacking, car camping. My current rig is an alcohol-fueled popcan stove (well, Guinness can actually...) Snowpeak pot for boiling, and Snowpeak folding filter holder with Chemex paper filters. Coffee is usually Water Avenue, but we're so so spoiled with good beans here in PDX, so sometimes Extracto, or Coava, or Ristretto. Recently discovered Roseline coffee and their Colombia sun dried single estate beans may be my new favorite. Ground with the Porlex mini. But I recently started using an Aeropress too, and admit it is an awesome machine and brews a splendid cup. Sometimes I use a Snowpeak GigaPower stove when I'm feeling lazy - tiny and light and pumps out the BTUs. And sometimes I use the GSI collapsible silicon filter holder. On the subject of filters, Stumptown put a number to the test including different brands of paper (they like Hario) as well as the Able stainless cone and Aeropress filters (two different meshes) and posted the results on their blog. Makes for interesting coffee-geek reading. http://stumptowncoffee.com/facts-coffee-filters/ Mike M ay, March 28, 2015 at 8:41:28 AM UTC-7, Kellie wrote: Im gearing up to do this activity on the weekends. I'm wondering what people use for coffee outside, and a list of items one shouldn't leave home without. Add your photos as well. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Fund my Clem sale!
Let the discounting begin! Also, my wife thinks that the purple cranks are keeping folks from loving this bike. I told her no way that's true. But if you want, I bet with the application of some elbow grease and scotch brite pads, you could take that color right off. Lets say $700.00 for the complete bike, or make me an offer for the frame. On Saturday, March 14, 2015 at 12:01:19 PM UTC-4, Wayne Naha wrote: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hunq vs Clem
Very cool overlay, well done. Your comparison of the frame geometries seems spot on. On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 2:27:15 AM UTC-4, Zed Martinez wrote: The poor man's Hunq. I did the best I could to compare the Hunq and Clems at similar sizes. If both of them are running the same size cranks (and since they have the same pedals and /those/ sized to match correctly, I feel they are), this should be a mostly accurate comparison of the two geometries at roughly comparable sizes. It's closer than you'd think seeing them built up as differently as they are. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Bike shop mechanics answer this:
It's been a few years, but we never touched 'em until the bike was sold. Most were supplied with an appropriate set of spacers so you didn't have to. IIRC, if there was more than an inch or so left to spacer-ize, that was rare. They were generally supplied with a specific tube length from the manufacturer. They weren't supplied full length as you would find with a fork only. - Jim / cyclofiend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Wtb paul motolite v brakes or similar
Hey friends, Just curious if anyone has a set of paul motolites that aren't being used or something similar in the linear department. Not a big fan of canti's really. Plus I just like the looks of v brakes. Let me know Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] FS: Nitto, Brooks, Mavic, Mafac, Sugino, MKS more!
Spring cleaning! Nitto Noodle 48 wide, very good condition $45 Mafac Racers, front rear, complete w/ mafac-branded front rear cable hangers. Good condition. $40 Shimano 105 road brake levers, silver w/ black hoods. Good condition. $10 Shimano cassette, 8 speed, 12-23. Very good condition $10 Brooks B17 Imperial, black, hardly ridden, excellent condition $80 Tektro TRP silver drilled alloy brake levers, very good condition $80 1 Jack Brown Blue, worn but with life left $15 Tektro Interruptors, silver, excellent condition $20 Mavic Open Pro Wheelset, laced to Shimano Ultegra 6600, 32 f r, 126 rear spacing, very good condition $125/set Rivendell's Silver Hupe, the one and only $25 Sugino XD2 Crankset, double 175mm, no rings, very good condition $30 Nitto 65 Crystal Fellow 27.2 x 210mm, lower 95mm scuffed, otherwise very good condition $40 Nitto Technomic 5, 26.0 clamp, some scuffs but good condition $30 MKS Sylvan track pedals, very good condition, $15 Sturmey Archer 5 spd wheel w/ indexed thumb shifter, X-RF5 (W) hub, 36 hole laced to Araya AR-713 rim, black, Newbaum's tape, 18 tooth cog $150 (happy to break this wheel down to save on shipping if you're strictly interested in the hub, cog shifter) Trade interested icluding but not limited to aluminum heat treated Albatross, King Iris cages, Park Truing stand 2 or 2.2, Nitto Tallux 6, 7 or 8, Schmidt Edulux II SON hub, HA Rack Sackville Bags, Carradice Bagman support, 700c Compass tires, Sugino XD2 165 or 170 triple or wide low double. Prices do not include shipping. Open to reasonable offers. Paypal preferred. Pics upon request, via email or text (72fore 7fiiive7 935ate lemme know you're a RBW/BOB). Apologies for the redundancy in cross-posts to the sister lists. A lot of this stuff is posted to PDX OR Craigslist. Feel free to come check the stuff out in person- I'm in Northeast Portland, Oregon. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hunq vs Clem
That's an awesome overlay! On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Zed Martinez iamzedmarti...@gmail.com wrote: The Clem is a much more laid back, cruiserish, town bike. Upright is way upright. Stays are extra long. I think it could handle anything, but it wont be quick doing those things. Clearances- easier on the Clem, but similar I haven't touched either in person, so, I can't say with confidence. But, I keep calculating out the geometries on these too, and I think the only thing that really makes the Clem seem more laid back and cruiserish is just that it's how they keep building them. The frame angles are pretty much identical. The head tube might be just a bit more slack, but it's hard to tell since the margin for error when calculating these things from measurements is outside the .5 degree range that matters. The biggest difference is that the Clem has a 1-2cm longer top tube and the longer chainstays. Those don't have to mean cruiser/town. Heck, it looks like the reach from the sit point of the saddle to the stem on the 52cm demo bike built as a townie is exactly the same as on my current camping bike converted from an old road frame with a standard touring stance, despite the old bike I'm using having a much, much shorter top tube. So, I think just looking at the geometries on the frame it ought to be plenty flexible for uses outside just being a cruiser/townie style. Probably still a little more laid back about it, but with a short reach stem and saddle forwards I don't think it'll be that much different. Mostly it just seems like a longer, cheaper Hunq. Heck, that's how I've started thinking about it as I compare the geometries. The poor man's Hunq. I did the best I could to compare the Hunq and Clems at similar sizes. If both of them are running the same size cranks (and since they have the same pedals and /those/ sized to match correctly, I feel they are), this should be a mostly accurate comparison of the two geometries at roughly comparable sizes. It's closer than you'd think seeing them built up as differently as they are. http://zedmartinez.com/samples/clem-hunq.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: f/s Thomson Masterpiece 27.2 x 240mm zero offset seatpost
Delivered today, thanks! That thing is freaky-light! Love having it on my Salsa as I can get away with the scarring. Too much beasuage for a Riv! :-) On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 6:49 PM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: done here - thanks ! On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 5:53:49 PM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: This is a good deal for someone willing to live with a scarred post - no burrs or rough spots, but has some nasty lighting bolts and vertical lines in the finish. Had it on my Moser road bike and it should have worked, but continued to squat on me, and got marked up having to pull it back up on the side of the road. (Finally solved that problem with a Super Record quill post.) Tried using this on a new bike, where it clamped Perfectly, but that bike badly needed offset. This is the lightest alloy seatpost made, all one-piece machined (nothing pressed), and weighs a published 157g (lighter than some carbon posts) http://weightweenies.starbike.com/listings/components.php?type=seatposts Max height is 175mm Nominal new price is $150, best new price is $120 incl shipping. I'll sell this one for $45 including priority mail. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/F%20Moser/post.jpg please reply offline thanks for looking -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion
It is indeed 1 threadless. Slightly strange choice. But I have built up a couple of the frames and like them. On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 1:25:21 PM UTC-7, Eddie Flayer wrote: it says 1 inch headset, so must be 1 inch threadless steerer. If in doubt, send them an email. On Friday, February 14, 2014 at 7:40:06 PM UTC-8, eflayer wrote: http://newalbioncycles.com/ Makes me wonder if, or the degree to which, Grant Peterson may be associated with these bikes. Not sure how they are differentiated from Soma, but some nice stuff coming. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: I test rode the Clem
Because the seat lug is the same on all sizes? Seat stay angle can't change so the stays curve. Maybe throw in a little Grant likes to do strange/interesting things every now and then. On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 1:26:00 PM UTC-7, Philip Kim wrote: I noticed the chainstays have a slight bend to them. Did you happen to ask Grant why that was? On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 3:21:27 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote: I rolled by RBW HQ this morning and got to test ride a 52cm Clem. I've always felt lucky that I'm pretty much exactly Grant-sized. Turns out today I got to ride Grant's Clem prototype, and didn't even have to change saddle height. It's terrific. It rides how I expected it to ride, meaning it disappeared, made me smile, and made me reluctant to return it to them. I don't know if I will pre-order, but if I do, the $150 they are paying me to adopt early will go towards a set of Bosco Bullmooses. That's the bar for that bike. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Thin Tires on a Hunqapillar
I read a piece on the Internet a couple of days ago in which the author swapped the 50-something tires on his Hunq for 38s or 40s. He wasn't into single-tracking and was trying to make the bike into a better (read faster) commuter. Has anyone in the Group tried the thin tire route on a Hunq and, if so, what were your impressions? All the best, Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hunq vs Clem
The Clem is a much more laid back, cruiserish, town bike. Upright is way upright. Stays are extra long. I think it could handle anything, but it wont be quick doing those things. Clearances- easier on the Clem, but similar I haven't touched either in person, so, I can't say with confidence. But, I keep calculating out the geometries on these too, and I think the only thing that really makes the Clem seem more laid back and cruiserish is just that it's how they keep building them. The frame angles are pretty much identical. The head tube might be just a bit more slack, but it's hard to tell since the margin for error when calculating these things from measurements is outside the .5 degree range that matters. The biggest difference is that the Clem has a 1-2cm longer top tube and the longer chainstays. Those don't have to mean cruiser/town. Heck, it looks like the reach from the sit point of the saddle to the stem on the 52cm demo bike built as a townie is exactly the same as on my current camping bike converted from an old road frame with a standard touring stance, despite the old bike I'm using having a much, much shorter top tube. So, I think just looking at the geometries on the frame it ought to be plenty flexible for uses outside just being a cruiser/townie style. Probably still a little more laid back about it, but with a short reach stem and saddle forwards I don't think it'll be that much different. Mostly it just seems like a longer, cheaper Hunq. Heck, that's how I've started thinking about it as I compare the geometries. The poor man's Hunq. I did the best I could to compare the Hunq and Clems at similar sizes. If both of them are running the same size cranks (and since they have the same pedals and /those/ sized to match correctly, I feel they are), this should be a mostly accurate comparison of the two geometries at roughly comparable sizes. It's closer than you'd think seeing them built up as differently as they are. http://zedmartinez.com/samples/clem-hunq.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hunq vs Clem
The Hunqapillar is an off-road tourer meets mountain bike. To me the Clem seems like the perfect budget/production version of the same concept. Long chainstays/wheelbases have been popular on off road bikes since their inception and are good for stability on descents and, depending on who you ask, just fine for climbing. In my opinion the Hunq is the early Breezer or Ritchey to the Clem's early Stumpjumper. I for one fully plan on riding my Clem with bullmoose bars and rock road tires and not as an upright townie On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 10:52:49 AM UTC-7, DSat wrote: Anyone can compare the two that has had experience with one or both? What's different? What's the same? Ride the same? Ride different? One heavier vs one lighter? One more upright than the other? I know the Clem is designed for swept back bars such as the Alba's or Bosco. I know the Hunq would be 700 tires vs 650 for the Clem. I know the Clem has longer chainstays. What would be the reason to spend the extra $$$ for the Hunq over the Clem? I am talking the Hunq 54 vs the Clem 52 (though that probably don't matter) Any input appreciated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
