RE: cron.d

[Ed . Greshko]

On Mon, 29 Jul 2002, suresh wrote:

> hi
> i tried that
> basically i am having a script which needs to be run after 5 mins of
> bootup(since the script hangs if run during bootup).
> I am doing this by adding a dynamically configured file in cron.d before
> reboot.
> 
> Any other way of doing this ?
> Thanx
> Suresh

Call your script from rc.local...
First command in your script
"sleep 300"

Ed



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RE: cron.d

[suresh]

hi
i tried that
basically i am having a script which needs to be run after 5 mins of
bootup(since the script hangs if run during bootup).
I am doing this by adding a dynamically configured file in cron.d before
reboot.

Any other way of doing this ?
Thanx
Suresh




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Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 3:35 PM
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On Sat, 2002-07-27 at 03:11, suresh wrote:
> I have configured cron to run a task at a perticular time of the day, but
it
> runs during bootup as well. I wud wish it runs only at that particular
time
> irrespective of whether m/c boots or not.
> any ideas??

Turn off the "anacron" service?




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Re: How to use firewire drive with 7.3?

[S. Cowles]

using a firewire disk under linux is not trivial, but it does work
reliably and repeatably.  i am quite satisfied with the operation.

in my setup, i am running a sony vaio laptop, pcg-xg29k, with redhat
7.3.  i have a maxtor 1394 external 80G drive connected to the vaio.

the steps i've taken to make this work are:

1.  turn off plug and play in the bios.

2.  power on the external disk before the computer.

3.  create a mount point for the drive.

4.  after boot and subsequent login, i run my startup script,
mount-firewire.  you'll need to modify it for your installation.
(could be put into /etc/rc.d/rc.local.)

5.  mount-firewire, in turn, calls rescan-scsi-bus.sh.  (you'll read
about it in the 1394 project pages howto's.)

6.  optional:  nfs serve the volume to other nfs clients.  or samba
share the volume, etc.

i've included a list of some firewire url's and the two scripts
mentioned above in the following shar file.

cheers.

scowles at bioinfogen dot com

===
Sunday, July 28, 2002, 6:00:36 PM, you wrote:
J> I'm using RH7.3. Must I recompile my kernel to be able to use a firewire
J> drive with my pentium 3 triple boot (bootmagic, 98/xp/rh7.3) laptop? Is it 
J> safe (for my very expensive data) to use a firewire drive?
J> I've never compiled a kernal; wish there were an easier way for this newbie.
J> Any advice or pointers very appreciated.
J> Thanks,
J> Jim
===

#!/bin/sh
# This is a shell archive (produced by GNU sharutils 4.2.1).
# To extract the files from this archive, save it to some FILE, remove
# everything before the `!/bin/sh' line above, then type `sh FILE'.
#
# Made on 2002-07-28 22:26 PDT by .
# Source directory was `/mnt/b5c/users/scowles'.
#
# Existing files will *not* be overwritten unless `-c' is specified.
#
# This shar contains:
# length mode   name
# -- -- --
#414 -rw-rw-rw- 1394
#368 -r-xr-xr-x bin/mount-firewire
#   2775 -r-xr-xr-x bin/rescan-scsi-bus.sh
#
save_IFS="${IFS}"
IFS="${IFS}:"
gettext_dir=FAILED
locale_dir=FAILED
first_param="$1"
for dir in $PATH
do
  if test "$gettext_dir" = FAILED && test -f $dir/gettext \
 && ($dir/gettext --version >/dev/null 2>&1)
  then
set `$dir/gettext --version 2>&1`
if test "$3" = GNU
then
  gettext_dir=$dir
fi
  fi
  if test "$locale_dir" = FAILED && test -f $dir/shar \
 && ($dir/shar --print-text-domain-dir >/dev/null 2>&1)
  then
locale_dir=`$dir/shar --print-text-domain-dir`
  fi
done
IFS="$save_IFS"
if test "$locale_dir" = FAILED || test "$gettext_dir" = FAILED
then
  echo=echo
else
  TEXTDOMAINDIR=$locale_dir
  export TEXTDOMAINDIR
  TEXTDOMAIN=sharutils
  export TEXTDOMAIN
  echo="$gettext_dir/gettext -s"
fi
if touch -am -t 200112312359.59 $$.touch >/dev/null 2>&1 && test ! -f 200112312359.59 
-a -f $$.touch; then
  shar_touch='touch -am -t $1$2$3$4$5$6.$7 "$8"'
elif touch -am 123123592001.59 $$.touch >/dev/null 2>&1 && test ! -f 123123592001.59 
-a ! -f 123123592001.5 -a -f $$.touch; then
  shar_touch='touch -am $3$4$5$6$1$2.$7 "$8"'
elif touch -am 1231235901 $$.touch >/dev/null 2>&1 && test ! -f 1231235901 -a -f 
$$.touch; then
  shar_touch='touch -am $3$4$5$6$2 "$8"'
else
  shar_touch=:
  echo
  $echo 'WARNING: not restoring timestamps.  Consider getting and'
  $echo "installing GNU \`touch', distributed in GNU File Utilities..."
  echo
fi
rm -f 200112312359.59 123123592001.59 123123592001.5 1231235901 $$.touch
#
if mkdir _sh02964; then
  $echo 'x -' 'creating lock directory'
else
  $echo 'failed to create lock directory'
  exit 1
fi
# = 1394 ==
if test -f '1394' && test "$first_param" != -c; then
  $echo 'x -' SKIPPING '1394' '(file already exists)'
else
  $echo 'x -' extracting '1394' '(gzipped)'
  sed 's/^X//' << 'SHAR_EOF' | uudecode &&
SHAR_EOF
  $echo 'gunzipping file' '1394' &&
  gzip -d < _sh02964/gzi > '1394' &&
  (set 20 02 07 28 22 14 27 '1394'; eval "$shar_touch") &&
  chmod 0666 '1394' ||
  $echo 'restore of' '1394' 'failed'
  if ( md5sum --help 2>&1 | grep 'sage: md5sum \[' ) >/dev/null 2>&1 \
  && ( md5sum --version 2>&1 | grep -v 'textutils 1.12' ) >/dev/null; then
md5sum -c << SHAR_EOF >/dev/null 2>&1 \
|| $echo '1394:' 'MD5 check failed'
44c5a0e1a756e53605a9a1f89cc478d9  1394
SHAR_EOF
  else
shar_count="`LC_ALL= LC_CTYPE= LANG= wc -c < '1394'`"
test 414 -eq "$shar_count" ||
$echo '1394:' 'original size' '414,' 'current size' "$shar_count!"
  fi
fi
# = bin/mount-firewire ==
if test ! -d 'bin'; then
  $echo 'x -' 'creating directory' 'bin'
  mkdir 'bin'
fi
if test -f 'bin/mount-firewire' && test "$first_param" != -c; then
  $echo 'x -' SKIPPING 'bin/mount-firewire' '(file already exists)'
else
  $echo 'x -' extracting 'bin/mount-firewire' '(gzipped)'
  sed 's/^X//' << 'SHAR_EOF' | uudecode &&
SHAR_EOF
  $echo 'gunzipping file' 'bin/mount-firewire' &&
  gzip -d < _sh02964/gzi

Re: please..anyone dual boot linux w2k frustrations

[Kevin Myers]

On Mon, 29 Jul 2002 00:00:32 -0500, David wrote:

>As far as I know Win2K needs to be on the primary drive. At least that is
>how I have dual booted a machine and havin't had any problems.

Not so. I have Win2k, XP, ME and linux here. All except the ME are on a
second drive.



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Re: Large Excel Files

[Dominic Mitchell]

I believe that gnumeric can  open files with up to 65000 lines. If
I am correct, both gnumeric and Excel have this limit.  They will
open larger files, but they will truncate the files at line 65
000.

This is what I recall from a colleague who have used these
softwares on large files.

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RE: please..anyone dual boot linux w2k frustrations

[Rev. David P. Giffen]

As far as I know Win2K needs to be on the primary drive. At least that is
how I have dual booted a machine and havin't had any problems.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of script this
> Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 10:29 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: please..anyone dual boot linux w2k frustrations
>
>
> scenario:
>
> running redhat linux 7.2 for over a year on
> preinstalled hd.  purchased second drive with w2k
> preinstalled.  hooked up second drive as secondary ide
> drive (hdb), kept primary drive with linux as hda.
>
> problem:
>
> w2k will not boot at all.
>
> all things i've tried:
>
> 1.  lilo.conf:
>
> prompt
> timeout=80
> default=linux
> boot=/dev/hda
> map=/boot/map
> install=/boot/boot.b
> message=/boot/message
> linear
> verbose=2
>
> image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.7-10
>   label=linux
>   initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.7-10.img
>   read-only
>   root=/dev/hda2
>   append="hdd=ide-scsi"
>
> other=/dev/hdb1
> label=win
>
> result:  Loading win
> but nothing happens
>
> 2.  lilo.conf changes:
>
> added 5 lines (indicated by > ) to other:
>
> other=/dev/hdb1
> > optional
> label=win
> > map-drive = 0x80
> > to = 0x81
> > map-drive = 0x81
> > to = 0x80
>
> result:  NTLDR not found
>
> 3.  lilo.conf changes
>
> replaced
> map-drive = 0x80
> to 0x81
> map-drive = 0x81
> to 0x80
>
> with
> loader=/boot/os2_d.b
> 
> result:  disk read error
>
> 4.  lilo.conf change
>
> replaced:
>
> linear with lba32
>
> result:  same as #3 (disk read error)
>
> 5.  made the windows drive the ONLY (primary) drive on
> the cable
>
> result
>
> after finding boot record, the following is printed to
> screen:
>
> LI
>
> and it hangs there forever
>
> I've tried changing jumper settings - the hard drive
> is 100g (my bios won't recognize the entire hard
> drive, so I have to use alternate jumpber
> settings...)but no setting seem to work.
>
> Does ANYONE know what this LI means?
>
> Please, any help would be tremendously appreciated
>
> Thanks in advance
>
>
>
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Re: sendmail working with 2 network cards

[Brian Ashe]

Roger,

On Sunday July 28, 2002 10:33, you said something about:
> Hi
>
> I have a box with tow networkd cards and one sendmail, as my know that
> sendmail can only sit on one ipaddress (DAEMON_OPTIONS in sendmail.mc), but
> now, I want tow network cards have the mail transfering function, how do i
> do that?

Since when can Sendmail only work on one address?

You can have as many of these as you want...
DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=smtp,Addr=127.0.0.1, Name=MTA')
DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=smtp,Addr=ip.add.re.ss1, Name=MTA')
DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=smtp,Addr=ip.add.re.ss2, Name=MTA')

Or simply remove them entirely and it will listen on all interfaces.

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Re: please..anyone dual boot linux w2k frustrations

[Kevin Myers]

On Mon, 29 Jul 2002 12:21:28 +0800, Pranay wrote:

>On Behalf Of Kevin Myers


???



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Re: sendmail working with 2 network cards

[Aly Dharshi]

You may find that Exim version 4.x would be a better solution to what you are 
looking for, it will support the two network cards as well as it has the same 
command line options as sendmail to promote compatability, as well as its easier 
to use. Try that. http://www.exim.org/

Cheers,

Aly

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RE: please..anyone dual boot linux w2k frustrations

[Pranay Kumar]

After putting in your win2k hdd, what all changes did you do. Hope you
changed your lilo.conf and ran lilo. What is the error when you select
the windows boot from lilo prompt.. need details to be able to help.

- PK

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Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 12:15 PM
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Subject: Re: please..anyone dual boot linux w2k frustrations

On Sun, 28 Jul 2002 08:29:18 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:

>scenario:
>
>running redhat linux 7.2 for over a year on
>preinstalled hd.  purchased second drive with w2k
>preinstalled.  hooked up second drive as secondary ide
>drive (hdb), kept primary drive with linux as hda.
>
>problem: 
>
>w2k will not boot at all.

Your best bet would probably be to use Grub instead of Lilo. Grub has a
few
more capabilities, including mapping drives. Look at the Grub how-to for
exact instructions:
http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Linux+Win9x+Grub-HOWTO/proc.html#AEN54



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Re: please..anyone dual boot linux w2k frustrations

[Kevin Myers]

On Sun, 28 Jul 2002 08:29:18 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:

>scenario:
>
>running redhat linux 7.2 for over a year on
>preinstalled hd.  purchased second drive with w2k
>preinstalled.  hooked up second drive as secondary ide
>drive (hdb), kept primary drive with linux as hda.
>
>problem: 
>
>w2k will not boot at all.

Your best bet would probably be to use Grub instead of Lilo. Grub has a few
more capabilities, including mapping drives. Look at the Grub how-to for
exact instructions:
http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Linux+Win9x+Grub-HOWTO/proc.html#AEN54



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Re: Help w/ Tulip NIC and Buslogic SCSI card

[Mohd Irfan R Khan]

u can try changing the tulip driver with  
de4x5 driver 
1) remove the tulip driver from conf.modules and 
reboot
2) insmod or depmod de4x5 and try to configure ur 
ip addr.
This should help u out
Regards.
Mohd Irfan R Khan

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Mark 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 10:03 
  PM
  Subject: Help w/ Tulip NIC and Buslogic 
  SCSI card
  
  All,
   
  I've been building some new machines and run into 
  a problem. In my systems, I have Znyx ZX346 NIC's, these are four port 10/100 
  PCI cards using thte DEC tulip 21140 chip. I also have a Buslogic (Mylex) 
  BT-958D in each system. Using RH 7.3, the systems run fine with either the 
  SCSI card or the NIC install, but NOT both. It seems there is some conflict 
  between them. I've done some reading and it seems that the tulip NIC's are 
  well supported by Linux as is the Buslogic card (and as I said they both work 
  fine on their own). 
   
  When I have them both in the system, RH will boot 
  fine. It configures eth0 fine and all looks good. However, I can not send any 
  packets in or out of the system. The SCSI card appears to work correctly as I 
  can r/w to the drives on that card. When the tulip driver is being loaded at 
  boot time I get an error message (dmesg) about the PCI instance having an 
  unknow header. I also get tulip: missing EEPROM at , interface may not 
  work correctly. Would changing the order the drivers are loaded help possibly? 
  Anyone have other ideas that might get me both network and SCSI 
  connectivit? Any and all help is greatly appreciated.
   
  TIA,
   
  Mark
   
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Re: Help

[Mohd Irfan R Khan]

type the root password and run fsck 
fsck /dev/hd? (depends on ur harddrive 
partition)
u can get the partition name by cat 
/etc/fstab
wish ur problem will be solved by this
 
Regards
Mohd IrfanR Khan
 

   
  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Chris 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 12:28 
AM
  Subject: Help
  
  I am new to Linux, previous to this I have always 
  used Mircosoft Windows OS.
   
  I have installed RedHat Linux ver. 7.3 with the 
  kernal ver. 52.4.18-5 on an older computer I have.  Its a 233MMX with 
  65mb of ram.
  The install went well, and I had no errors 
  reported.  The first I reboot the system I recieve an 
  error.
   
  / contains a file system with errors, check 
  forced.
  Error reading block 1739350 (Attempt to read 
  block from filesystem resulted in short read).
   
  /: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck 
  MANUALLY.
      (ie., without -a or -p 
  options)
          
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
  [FAILED]
   
  *** An error occurred during the file system 
  check.
  *** Dropping you to a shell; the system will 
  reboot
  *** when you leave the shell
  Give root password for maintenance
  (or type Control-D for normal startup): 
  _
   
  I have reinstalled Linux three times on this 
  system becuase I get the exact same error when I reboot for the first 
  time.  I am using the correct shutdown procedure.
   
  I have no knowledge of how the Linux OS and 
  kernal work, so I am at a total loss.
   
  Any help would be appreciated.
   
  Thanks
  Chris
   
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RE: How to use firewire drive with 7.3?

[Pranay Kumar]

Redhat 7.3 kernel (2.4.18) comes with firewire support. Just plug in the
fw hdd and modprobe ohci1394.

-PK

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On Behalf Of Edward Dekkers
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 10:41 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How to use firewire drive with 7.3?

> I'm using RH7.3. Must I recompile my kernel to be able to use a
firewire
> drive with my pentium 3 triple boot (bootmagic, 98/xp/rh7.3) laptop?
Is it
> safe (for my very expensive data) to use a firewire drive?
> I've never compiled a kernal; wish there were an easier way for this
newbie.
> Any advice or pointers very appreciated.

Doubt you have to go that far. I've never tried it, but there appear to
be
ieee1394 modules on my system, so I assume an insmod will do it.

Regards,
Ed.




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sendmail working with 2 network cards

[Roger]

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Hi

I have a box with tow networkd cards and one sendmail, as my know that 
sendmail can only sit on one ipaddress (DAEMON_OPTIONS in sendmail.mc), but 
now, I want tow network cards have the mail transfering function, how do i do 
that?

Any sugguestion is appreciated!

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Re: How to use firewire drive with 7.3?

[Edward Dekkers]

> I'm using RH7.3. Must I recompile my kernel to be able to use a firewire
> drive with my pentium 3 triple boot (bootmagic, 98/xp/rh7.3) laptop? Is it
> safe (for my very expensive data) to use a firewire drive?
> I've never compiled a kernal; wish there were an easier way for this
newbie.
> Any advice or pointers very appreciated.

Doubt you have to go that far. I've never tried it, but there appear to be
ieee1394 modules on my system, so I assume an insmod will do it.

Regards,
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Slow incoming net speeds

[Kevin - KD Micro Software]

Hi all,
 
I have what I think is a strange problem. I have a 
7.2 box on the net, and has a few server processes running. Whenever I access 
the machine remotely, the connection itself is almost instant, but then is slow. 
By this, I mean when you load a web page from the machine, it comes back pretty 
much straight away, but things like images take forever - and sometimes don't 
come up at all.This is the same with FTP. The max speed I've seen this 
machine give via FTP is 0.5k/sec, which is a pretty sad speed.
 
The thing that gets me is that Telnet and SSH 
sessions are fine, there is no speed problem there, which makes me at loss as to 
what is wrong here.Has 
anyone experienced this sort of problem before, and know what the solution 
is?
 
Thanks in advance.Kevin 
GreenKD Micro Software[EMAIL PROTECTED]

MP 107, Market City, 280 Bannister Road, Canning Vale WA 
6155.Phone: 9256 1566 (2778 internal)     Mobile: 
0419 949 254.

neighbour table overflow -help!

[Daniel Tan]

 Hi,
 can anyone help me with this error (neighbour table overflow)? urgently
 need help because my mail
 server keeps giving me this crap message...i tried using ifconfig lo
 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0 and this doesn't help in terms of rebooting my
 server and the config is gone againonce i have the set of messages, my
 NIS and YP is not working properlyanyone can help me? i need someone to
 guide me in the right direction.


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RE: changing scsi cards after install/ scsi cd burn dies on fixa

[Gregory Hosler]

On 28-Jul-02 clover wrote:
> hello,
>   i used to have a 6.2 machine. i wiped
> everything and install 7.3. i also changed the 
> advansys to an adaptec aha-2940w/2940uw scsi 
> card before the new install. now i want to use 
> my old advansys and try to burn a cd and see if 
> it still dies when it is fixating the cd. kudzu 
> removed the old configuration for the card and 
> found the new one. but it is not being loaded 
> when i boot. i have the errors from the boot 
> pasted below. i did a search on google about 
> this but could not find information on this 
> subject. thank you in advance for any fixes/leads
> on how to resolve this.
> 
> eric
> 
> 
> SCSI subsystem driver Revision: 1.00
> kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k scsi_hostadapter, errno = 2

this is not really your problem. (i.e. this "error" occurs even in a "normal
properly configured boot"

I am guessing that you're /partition is on scsi. You need an initrd that
includes the necessary scsi driver. therefore if you swap scsi cards and / is
on the scsi card that you swapped out, you will need to boot the install cd in
rescue mode, mount your root partitions (which will probably happen
automagically), and then chroot to your normal system, make a new initrd (man
mkinitrd), and then update either lilo.conf, or grub.conf as appropriate. (and
it you're using lilo, you will need to re-lilo.)

you probably should backup the old initrd file, just incase you think you might
go back to it.

rgds,

-Greg


> 
> in looking at the log it did not log all the error messages.
> from what i saw it was still trying to load the old ahaxxx drivers.
> and /sbin/lsmod shows the advansys module loaded
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Re: Large Excel Files

[Frederic Herman]

AFAIK, OpenOffice is the same as StarOffice, but without the "support" 
from Sun.  I switched from StarOffice to OpenOffice and so far, I have 
had no problems with it.  I used to have some MS file formats crash 
StarOffice, but never have had that with  OpenOffice 1.0.  I just 
upgraded to 1.0.1, and, so far am pleased.

Fred

Jim Hale wrote:

>How about StarOffice? Anyone have experience with that? :)
>
>We were looking at the possibility of using it at the Hospital to cut
>down on the M$ Licenses that we have to have to stay legal.
>
>Thanks!
>
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>Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 12:54 PM
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>
>Have you tried OpenOffice?  I Can't speak about large Excel files, but 
>the current version seems to be very stable and I've had no problems 
>opening MS files.  Check:
>
>http://www.openoffice.org/
>
>
>
>Michael Flannigan wrote:
>
>  
>
>>My brief foray into Linux was more than a year ago.  I installed RedHat
>>
>>
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>  
>
>>version 7.  I left it and returned to Windows when the Excel-like 
>>program in Linux (free version) would not open my large (20,000+ row) 
>>Excel files.  It tried to, but gave an error that I no longer remember.
>>
>>
>
>  
>
>>Has anybody had any luck importing large, single worksheet Excel files 
>>that have more than 20,000 records (rows)?
>>
>>
>>Mike Flannigan
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RE: Large Excel Files

[Jim Hale]

How about StarOffice? Anyone have experience with that? :)

We were looking at the possibility of using it at the Hospital to cut
down on the M$ Licenses that we have to have to stay legal.

Thanks!

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Have you tried OpenOffice?  I Can't speak about large Excel files, but 
the current version seems to be very stable and I've had no problems 
opening MS files.  Check:

http://www.openoffice.org/



Michael Flannigan wrote:

>My brief foray into Linux was more than a year ago.  I installed RedHat

>version 7.  I left it and returned to Windows when the Excel-like 
>program in Linux (free version) would not open my large (20,000+ row) 
>Excel files.  It tried to, but gave an error that I no longer remember.

>Has anybody had any luck importing large, single worksheet Excel files 
>that have more than 20,000 records (rows)?
>
>
>Mike Flannigan
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How to use firewire drive with 7.3?

[Jim]

I'm using RH7.3. Must I recompile my kernel to be able to use a firewire 
drive with my pentium 3 triple boot (bootmagic, 98/xp/rh7.3) laptop? Is it 
safe (for my very expensive data) to use a firewire drive?
I've never compiled a kernal; wish there were an easier way for this newbie.
Any advice or pointers very appreciated.
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Re: Large Excel Files

[Frederic Herman]

I'd like to know how whether you're successful of not.

Fred


Mike Flannigan wrote:

>I believe OpenOffice is what I used.  I see from other postings
>that both OpenOffice and gnumeric have been updated and may
>be able to import large Excel files now.  I may try again someday.
>
>I appreciate all the replies.
>
>
>Mike
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>>Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 11:54:19 -0600
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>>Have you tried OpenOffice?  I Can't speak about large Excel files, but
>>the current version seems to be very stable and I've had no problems
>>opening MS files.  Check:
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>>http://www.openoffice.org/
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Re: Large Excel Files

[Mike Flannigan]

I believe OpenOffice is what I used.  I see from other postings
that both OpenOffice and gnumeric have been updated and may
be able to import large Excel files now.  I may try again someday.

I appreciate all the replies.


Mike



> Subject: Re: Large Excel Files
> Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 11:54:19 -0600
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> opening MS files.  Check:
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ARG! Please help, TNT2 woes

[Sweet Chuck]

I am trying to get dual-head working under 7.3 with 2 TNT2 M64's (one 
pci one agp). I have the exact same system at work with the exact same 
cards working under SuSE 8.0 with almost no effort.

Here are my problems:

1) Probing the PCI bus with "XFree86 -scanpci" returns nothing.
2) Probing the PCI bus with scanpci, displays this:
pci bus 0x cardnum 0x00 function 0x00: vendor 0x8086 device 0x1a30
  Intel  Device unknown
pci bus 0x cardnum 0x01 function 0x00: vendor 0x8086 device 0x1a31
  Intel  Device unknown
pci bus 0x cardnum 0x1e function 0x00: vendor 0x8086 device 0x244e
  Intel  Device unknown
pci bus 0x cardnum 0x1f function 0x00: vendor 0x8086 device 0x2440
  Intel  Device unknown
pci bus 0x cardnum 0x1f function 0x01: vendor 0x8086 device 0x244b
  Intel  Device unknown
pci bus 0x cardnum 0x1f function 0x02: vendor 0x8086 device 0x2442
  Intel  Device unknown
pci bus 0x cardnum 0x1f function 0x05: vendor 0x8086 device 0x2445
  Intel  Device unknown
pci bus 0x0001 cardnum 0x00 function 0x00: vendor 0x10de device 0x002d
  NVidia Riva TNT2 M64
pci bus 0x0002 cardnum 0x08 function 0x00: vendor 0x8086 device 0x2449
  Intel  Device unknown
pci bus 0x0002 cardnum 0x09 function 0x00: vendor 0x9004 device 0x8178
  Adaptec 2940U/UW
pci bus 0x0002 cardnum 0x0b function 0x00: vendor 0x10de device 0x0025
  NVidia  Device unknown

Is anyone using these cards under RH 7.3?

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SUDO

[Jesse Angell]

Hello everyone,
I need to setup a php control panel that allows clients to execute
commands in their home directory.. The only way I can think of doing this
would be to install it's own apache for the control panel, and have that run
under a username that has permission to use su $username -c
/home/$username/palaceserver/bin/start-palace and a few other commands. And
also make it so that it only has permission to su -c to usernames in the
"user" group..
How do I do this,
and what are the major security risks.. if any?


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How to turn off sound notifications in KDE?

[Doug Lerner]

I am trying KDE today and it looks quite nice. But how on earth can I turn
off the "sound notifications" when you open and close windows?

I tried going into the KDE Control Panel, and selected

Sound > System Notifications > The KDE Window Manager

and there I unchecked the sound play checkboxes for opening and closing
windows and new windows and applied the changes. But the sounds persist!

I tried logging out and logging in again, to see if that help. But the
sounds still persist!

Any ideas?

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Re: What could be causing this?

[Jonathan Bartlett]

Please provide the output of route -n and all firewall configs.

Jon

On Sun, 28 Jul 2002, Furnish, Trever G wrote:

> [root@enterprise root]# ping wr-providence
> PING hj_providence-fa0.hj-net (192.168.180.1) from 192.168.10.123 : 56(84)
> bytes of data.
>
> --- hj_providence-fa0.hj-net ping statistics ---
> 3 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss
>
> [root@enterprise root]# ping -I eth0 wr-providence
> PING hj_providence-fa0.hj-net (192.168.180.1) from 192.168.10.123 eth0:
> 56(84) bytes of data.
> 64 bytes from hj_providence.hj-int (192.168.180.1): icmp_seq=0 ttl=254
> time=55.116 msec
> ...
>
> In other words, it doesn't work without the "-I eth0".  It's fine for a day
> or two and then it start's behaving this way.  No duplicate routes.
> Behavior is reproducible (on this box), but has never happened on another
> system running the same OS (rh7.2 + errata updates, kernel 2.4.9-31).
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> The remote host is up the entire time.
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Re: KDE and Gnome (was Re: KDE in Gnome)

[Brian Ashe]

Doug Lerner,

On Sunday July 28, 2002 04:44, you said something about:
> So:
>
> (1) Would a KDE app run faster directly under KDE than in Gnome?

Not necessarily run faster, but it would load faster.

> (2) Why not design all apps like Netscape so they are
> non-desktop-manager-specific?

For integration reasons. Being able to reuse code and have consistant 
look/feel are why there are "Desktop Environments" instead of just Window 
Managers.

> (3) Are both KDE and Gnome equally "active" as far as support and on-going
> development and enthusiasm goes?

Yup.

> (4) Are there KDE/Gnome warz, or are both groups of developers cooperative
> with each other?

For the most part. It's the users that seem to be more at odds. It's like the 
emacs vs. vi type of thing. 

> (5) Which is better? :-)

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. :)
There are advantages and disadvantages to each. The beauty is that you have 
the choice.

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Re: KDE and Gnome (was Re: KDE in Gnome)

[Duncan Hill]

On Mon, 29 Jul 2002, Doug Lerner wrote:

> So:
> 
> (1) Would a KDE app run faster directly under KDE than in Gnome?

I can't say I've noticed a slow down running K apps under Gnome, or vice 
versa.  There is a definite difference in looks of course.

> (2) Why not design all apps like Netscape so they are
> non-desktop-manager-specific?

It can be argued that it comes down to choice of GUI toolkit.  Gnome is GTK, 
KDE is QT.  They look different (as I'm sure you noticed), and behave a bit 
differently, but on the whole, interoperate.  Netscape is done in Motif, and 
looks uglier than sin :>  That said, Motif is present on AIX etc (then 
again, GTK and QT have been ported all over the place, including Windows).  
Also note, when I said specific, I meant mostly that the toolkit used was 
the same, and that the app has integration hooks for that particular 
desktop manager/window manager.  That doesn't mean that it won't work 
elsewhere.  It does mean, of course, that you have to have the appropriate 
libraries installed - unless the app is statically compiled.

> (3) Are both KDE and Gnome equally "active" as far as support and on-going
> development and enthusiasm goes?

Both are active projects, as evidenced by their websites.  

> (4) Are there KDE/Gnome warz, or are both groups of developers cooperative
> with each other?

AFAIK, the developers compete and cooperate - the two are not mutually 
exclusive.  The users on the other hand...

> (5) Which is better? :-)

Neither and both.  They have pretty similiar feature sets, but they also 
have different options.  Play with each one and see which you prefer.  I was 
running KDE, but switched to Gnome to play for a while.  I switched to 
E(nlightenment) briefly today, but gave up after a while because I wasn't 
interested enough to explore it.

One of the key points of difference is choice.  Gnome and KDE both look
different.  KDE is Microsoft-like.  Alt-F4 etc work 'out of the
compile/install' as they would work in the MS world.  As such, KDE is a
decent introduction for MS centric users.  Gnome on the other hand has its
own keystrokes and a different look.  And, like many things in this part of
the OS world, most, if not all, of the keystroke bindings can be
re-configured however you like.  I'm still trying to get used to 
'double-click the framebar, and it shades up or down', and then use my MS 
box at work where the same action maximizes/restores.  I could change my 
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KDE and Gnome (was Re: KDE in Gnome)

[Doug Lerner]

So:

(1) Would a KDE app run faster directly under KDE than in Gnome?

(2) Why not design all apps like Netscape so they are
non-desktop-manager-specific?

(3) Are both KDE and Gnome equally "active" as far as support and on-going
development and enthusiasm goes?

(4) Are there KDE/Gnome warz, or are both groups of developers cooperative
with each other?

(5) Which is better? :-)

doug

On 7/29/02 5:32 AM, "Duncan Hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Mon, 29 Jul 2002, Doug Lerner wrote:
> 
>> What does it mean, though, for there to be KDE desktop themes settings
>> from inside Gnome?
> 
> Gnome picks up the entire (or almost entire) KDE configuration tree of menus
> etc.  Desktop themes happens to be in the KDE menu system, so it gets pulled
> in.
> 
>> And about the apps, if they run under either KDE or Gnome, why are they
>> called "KDE apps"?
> 
> Because they're distributed (invariably) with the KDE system, and they're
> written to integrate right into KDE cleanly.  If you start a KDE-specific
> app in Gnome via a terminal, you might see stuff about a DCOP server
> starting.  Afaik, that's part of the glue that drives the KDE system and its
> apps.
> 
> Netscape would be an example of a non-desktop-manager-specific app.  It has
> no hooks to either Gnome or KDE.
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Re: Large Excel Files

[Reuben D. Budiardja]

You might want to try gnumeric. Probably upgrade to a more updated
stable version (1.0.x) than the one provided by Redhat (unless you're
using 7.3, which I think the gnumeric is quite updated). In my opinion,
gnumeric is better than open office in spreadsheet area. In claims to be
fully compatible also with Excel files and functions. It even has more
functions than excel does. 

Hope that helps
Rdb

On Sun, 2002-07-28 at 13:40, Michael Flannigan wrote:
> 
> My brief foray into Linux was more than a year ago.  I installed
> RedHat version 7.  I left it and returned to Windows when the
> Excel-like program in Linux (free version) would not open
> my large (20,000+ row) Excel files.  It tried to, but gave an
> error that I no longer remember.  Has anybody had any
> luck importing large, single worksheet Excel files that have
> more than 20,000 records (rows)?
> 
> 
> Mike Flannigan
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Re: KDE in Gnome

[Duncan Hill]

On Mon, 29 Jul 2002, Doug Lerner wrote:

> What does it mean, though, for there to be KDE desktop themes settings
> from inside Gnome?

Gnome picks up the entire (or almost entire) KDE configuration tree of menus 
etc.  Desktop themes happens to be in the KDE menu system, so it gets pulled 
in.

> And about the apps, if they run under either KDE or Gnome, why are they
> called "KDE apps"?

Because they're distributed (invariably) with the KDE system, and they're 
written to integrate right into KDE cleanly.  If you start a KDE-specific 
app in Gnome via a terminal, you might see stuff about a DCOP server 
starting.  Afaik, that's part of the glue that drives the KDE system and its 
apps.

Netscape would be an example of a non-desktop-manager-specific app.  It has 
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Re: KDE in Gnome

[Doug Lerner]

On 7/29/02 1:22 AM, "Michael Scottaline" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> What does that mean?
> =
> That Linux desktops can be versatile.  Most KDE apps will easily run w/i
> Gnome and vice versa.  In fact apps from both will run on just about any
> desktop or environment you'd like:  Xfce, Icewm, Blackbox, Fluxbox,
> Enlightenment, Windowmaker, afterst. (huh, well, you get the point ;))

What does it mean, though, for there to be KDE desktop themes settings from
inside Gnome?

And about the apps, if they run under either KDE or Gnome, why are they
called "KDE apps"?

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Re: Linux vs Mac vs Windows

[Alan Harding]

On Sun, 2002-07-28 at 14:19, Doug Lerner wrote:
> On 7/28/02 10:12 PM, "Michael Scottaline" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > If you mean something quite large, w/calendering, etc., you can give
> > evolution 1.0.8 a look.  Takes a little while to load up, but I believe
> > ithandles all of the things Entourage does.  [I personally prefer
> > separateapps, so I don't use evolution.  I use Sylpheed for my e-mail and
> > gnomecalender for keeping my calender.]
> > 
> 
> Actually, I don't really care about the Calendar and other features in
> Entourage other than email.
> 
> But Entourage does email really well. It can display HTML email and compose
> in HTML email or turn it off, as you prefer.
> 
> If you have multiple aliases in one mailbox (account), when you reply it
> automatically replies from the address to which email was received. This is
> an important point for me, because I have several aliases and you would be
> surprised at the number of email clients that overlook this feature.
> 
> It works well in Japanese too, which is also important to me.
> 
> And I like the way it keeps track of reply histories, finding originals to
> replies, etc.
> 
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I have to say that apart from the Japanese bit, which I cant comment on,
what you have just described is Evolution. I find it stable, and easy to
use, with the ability to handle multiple Mailboxes. 

As for the Office apps, then you would have to go a long way to beat the
Crossover from Codeweavers. I use it for Word, and Excel, and even the
most complicated accounting spreadsheets we have open perfectly every
time.



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Thoughts on LDAP Anyone ?

[Aly Dharshi]

Hi All,

Were are building a server running RedHat 7.3 which among other things will 
provide ldap services for authentication and information for a variety of other 
applications.

I know that upon installing there is a point whereby the installer asks what 
mode 
for authentication one would prefer. I was wondering whether the ldap option 
there applies to an existing ldap server ? Or does it mean that include ldap in 
the authentication list (nsswitch.conf) and then configure it later. Or does it 
configure the /etc/ldap.conf for you, or do we need to do this by hand.

There is an authentication converting program in 7.3, has anyone used this ? 
Anbody using ldap in a such a fashion or along similar lines care to share their 
thoughts please. Thanks in advance.

Cheers,

Aly.

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Re: Quick Samba Question

[Aly Dharshi]

Hello All,

True, that I could use Samba via PAM but the actual idea is I want to move 
most 
of the RID and other similar information into LDAP, using PAM will just allow me 
to authenticate against an LDAP server the passwords, but the other information 
will remain in a flat files. I want to make everything central via LDAP server/s.

So am I to take it that RedHat doesn't package its Samba packages with LDAP 
support not via PAM. I tried doing the RPM build from the samba package rpm -ta 
samba.xxx.tar.gz which worked fine and built me a set of rpms but none compiled 
with ldap support so I have to wonder if I have to unpack the tarball and force 
it with options on the commmand line.

Cheers,

Aly.

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Re: Large Excel Files

[Anthony E. Greene]

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On 28-Jul-2002/12:40 -0500, Michael Flannigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>My brief foray into Linux was more than a year ago.  I installed
>RedHat version 7.  I left it and returned to Windows when the
>Excel-like program in Linux (free version) would not open
>my large (20,000+ row) Excel files.  It tried to, but gave an
>error that I no longer remember.  Has anybody had any
>luck importing large, single worksheet Excel files that have
>more than 20,000 records (rows)?

I have opened Excel workbooks that had lots of sheets in Gnumeric, but I
only used StarCalc a little. Both programs have been upgraded in the past
year. StarCalc has a major new release out, and the free version that's
included with OpenOffice.org is available for Windows if you want to try
it out without installing Linux.

  http://www.openoffice.org/


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Re: Quick Samba Question

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>to many pkgs unless required. I wanted to find out if the samba package
>shipped with RedHat Linux 7.3 has ldap support compiled in. If not would
>that mean that I would have to compile the samba package myself.

Samba supports PAM, and there are LDAP modules for PAM, so you should be
able to authenticate Samba users via PAM and LDAP.

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What could be causing this?

[Furnish, Trever G]

[root@enterprise root]# ping wr-providence
PING hj_providence-fa0.hj-net (192.168.180.1) from 192.168.10.123 : 56(84)
bytes of data.

--- hj_providence-fa0.hj-net ping statistics ---
3 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss

[root@enterprise root]# ping -I eth0 wr-providence
PING hj_providence-fa0.hj-net (192.168.180.1) from 192.168.10.123 eth0:
56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from hj_providence.hj-int (192.168.180.1): icmp_seq=0 ttl=254
time=55.116 msec
...

In other words, it doesn't work without the "-I eth0".  It's fine for a day
or two and then it start's behaving this way.  No duplicate routes.
Behavior is reproducible (on this box), but has never happened on another
system running the same OS (rh7.2 + errata updates, kernel 2.4.9-31).

The remote host is up the entire time.



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RE: please..anyone dual boot linux w2k frustrations

[Dirk]

I have had similar problems your solution is in linux in a nutshell. It
is something to do with copying nt boot onto you r boot loader. This is
if win2k is ntfs. Hope this helps.

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Subject: please..anyone dual boot linux w2k frustrations


scenario:

running redhat linux 7.2 for over a year on
preinstalled hd.  purchased second drive with w2k
preinstalled.  hooked up second drive as secondary ide
drive (hdb), kept primary drive with linux as hda.

problem: 

w2k will not boot at all.

all things i've tried:

1.  lilo.conf:

prompt
timeout=80
default=linux
boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
message=/boot/message
linear
verbose=2

image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.7-10
label=linux
initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.7-10.img
read-only
root=/dev/hda2
append="hdd=ide-scsi"

other=/dev/hdb1
label=win

result:  Loading win
but nothing happens

2.  lilo.conf changes:

added 5 lines (indicated by > ) to other:

other=/dev/hdb1
> optional
label=win
> map-drive = 0x80
> to = 0x81
> map-drive = 0x81
> to = 0x80

result:  NTLDR not found

3.  lilo.conf changes

replaced 
map-drive = 0x80
to 0x81
map-drive = 0x81
to 0x80

with 
loader=/boot/os2_d.b

result:  disk read error

4.  lilo.conf change

replaced:

linear with lba32

result:  same as #3 (disk read error)

5.  made the windows drive the ONLY (primary) drive on
the cable

result  

after finding boot record, the following is printed to
screen:

LI

and it hangs there forever

I've tried changing jumper settings - the hard drive
is 100g (my bios won't recognize the entire hard
drive, so I have to use alternate jumpber
settings...)but no setting seem to work.  

Does ANYONE know what this LI means?

Please, any help would be tremendously appreciated

Thanks in advance



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Re: Large Excel Files

[Frederic Herman]

Have you tried OpenOffice?  I Can't speak about large Excel files, but 
the current version seems to be very stable and I've had no problems 
opening MS files.  Check:

http://www.openoffice.org/



Michael Flannigan wrote:

>My brief foray into Linux was more than a year ago.  I installed
>RedHat version 7.  I left it and returned to Windows when the
>Excel-like program in Linux (free version) would not open
>my large (20,000+ row) Excel files.  It tried to, but gave an
>error that I no longer remember.  Has anybody had any
>luck importing large, single worksheet Excel files that have
>more than 20,000 records (rows)?
>
>
>Mike Flannigan
>
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Large Excel Files

[Michael Flannigan]

My brief foray into Linux was more than a year ago.  I installed
RedHat version 7.  I left it and returned to Windows when the
Excel-like program in Linux (free version) would not open
my large (20,000+ row) Excel files.  It tried to, but gave an
error that I no longer remember.  Has anybody had any
luck importing large, single worksheet Excel files that have
more than 20,000 records (rows)?


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Re: KDE in Gnome

[Michael Scottaline]

On Mon, 29 Jul 2002 00:16:15 +0900
Doug Lerner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled intuitively:

>Well, since my old 6 GB HD died I went over to Shinjuku today and got a
>new IBM 40 GB HD - just $64!
>
>Anyway, everything is re-installed. 
>
>Since I had more disk space this time I installed also KDE in addition to
>Gnome. But what does it mean that there is a KDE menu inside Gnome? I
>thought they were two separate desktop environments. It seems that from
>inside Gnome I can access all the KDE menus/apps - even the KDE desktop
>theme settings.
=
Coool, huh ;o)
=

>
>What does that mean?
=
That Linux desktops can be versatile.  Most KDE apps will easily run w/i
Gnome and vice versa.  In fact apps from both will run on just about any
desktop or environment you'd like:  Xfce, Icewm, Blackbox, Fluxbox,
Enlightenment, Windowmaker, afterst. (huh, well, you get the point ;))

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please..anyone dual boot linux w2k frustrations

[script this]

scenario:

running redhat linux 7.2 for over a year on
preinstalled hd.  purchased second drive with w2k
preinstalled.  hooked up second drive as secondary ide
drive (hdb), kept primary drive with linux as hda.

problem: 

w2k will not boot at all.

all things i've tried:

1.  lilo.conf:

prompt
timeout=80
default=linux
boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
message=/boot/message
linear
verbose=2

image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.7-10
label=linux
initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.7-10.img
read-only
root=/dev/hda2
append="hdd=ide-scsi"

other=/dev/hdb1
label=win

result:  Loading win
but nothing happens

2.  lilo.conf changes:

added 5 lines (indicated by > ) to other:

other=/dev/hdb1
> optional
label=win
> map-drive = 0x80
> to = 0x81
> map-drive = 0x81
> to = 0x80

result:  NTLDR not found

3.  lilo.conf changes

replaced 
map-drive = 0x80
to 0x81
map-drive = 0x81
to 0x80

with 
loader=/boot/os2_d.b

result:  disk read error

4.  lilo.conf change

replaced:

linear with lba32

result:  same as #3 (disk read error)

5.  made the windows drive the ONLY (primary) drive on
the cable

result  

after finding boot record, the following is printed to
screen:

LI

and it hangs there forever

I've tried changing jumper settings - the hard drive
is 100g (my bios won't recognize the entire hard
drive, so I have to use alternate jumpber
settings...)but no setting seem to work.  

Does ANYONE know what this LI means?

Please, any help would be tremendously appreciated

Thanks in advance



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KDE in Gnome

[Doug Lerner]

Well, since my old 6 GB HD died I went over to Shinjuku today and got a new
IBM 40 GB HD - just $64!

Anyway, everything is re-installed. 

Since I had more disk space this time I installed also KDE in addition to
Gnome. But what does it mean that there is a KDE menu inside Gnome? I
thought they were two separate desktop environments. It seems that from
inside Gnome I can access all the KDE menus/apps - even the KDE desktop
theme settings.

What does that mean?

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Re: Linux vs Mac vs Windows

[Kevin MacNeil]

On Sun, Jul 28, 2002 at 10:02:10PM +0900, Doug Lerner wrote:
> I like using Entourage (I admit it!) in OS X, so I hope I can find a
> really nice, complete, multi-account, multi-user email solution in
> Linux. And guess what - I don't even mind paying for software I like!
> :-)

But you probably won't have to, which is even better.  Ximian Evolution
is an amazingly polished and powerful email client that will do anything
a commercial version will do -- except get infected by viruses.  

> And I will be looking for an Office solution, and a Web authoring
> solution too.

Openoffice probably does nearly everything you would need (including
reading MS Office file formats), though it is not quite as polished as
MS Office.  But it is free and getting better as we speak.  Write. 

I'm not so knowledgeable about web-authoring solutions, but Mozilla
Composer does everything I'd need in a web authoring tool.  Actually,
Mozilla in general is an impressive piece of work.  It's dead stable and
I'm so used to tabbed browsing that I feel hindered using anything else.

In short, linux has made enormous strides in the last couple of years,
both in terms of GUIs and applications.  Back in the redhat 5.x days it
took a certain amount of dedication to use linux as your everyday
desktop OS.  No more.  I have a secure and stable machine with every
application I would ever need, I can read proprietary file formats if I
have to, my rh7.2/ximian desktop is right purty and never crashes, and
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Re: Linux vs Mac vs Windows

[Michael Scottaline]

On Sun, 28 Jul 2002 22:19:36 +0900
Doug Lerner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled intuitively:

>On 7/28/02 10:12 PM, "Michael Scottaline" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> 
>> If you mean something quite large, w/calendering, etc., you can give
>> evolution 1.0.8 a look.  Takes a little while to load up, but I believe
>> ithandles all of the things Entourage does.  [I personally prefer
>> separateapps, so I don't use evolution.  I use Sylpheed for my e-mail
>and> gnomecalender for keeping my calender.]
>> 
>
>Actually, I don't really care about the Calendar and other features in
>Entourage other than email.
>
>But Entourage does email really well. It can display HTML email and
>compose in HTML email or turn it off, as you prefer.
===
Sylpheed will NOT compose in html, but can handle viewing somewhat.  It
is small and *extremely* fast.
==

>
>If you have multiple aliases in one mailbox (account), when you reply it
>automatically replies from the address to which email was received. This
>is an important point for me, because I have several aliases and you
>would be surprised at the number of email clients that overlook this
>feature.
==
Sylpheed handles the "reply" function in exactly this manner :)
=
>
>It works well in Japanese too, which is also important to me.

The author of Sylpheed is Japanese :o)

go to sylpheed.good-day.net and give it a try.  You might like it!!

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Re: Linux vs Mac vs Windows

[Doug Lerner]

On 7/28/02 10:12 PM, "Michael Scottaline" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> If you mean something quite large, w/calendering, etc., you can give
> evolution 1.0.8 a look.  Takes a little while to load up, but I believe
> ithandles all of the things Entourage does.  [I personally prefer
> separateapps, so I don't use evolution.  I use Sylpheed for my e-mail and
> gnomecalender for keeping my calender.]
> 

Actually, I don't really care about the Calendar and other features in
Entourage other than email.

But Entourage does email really well. It can display HTML email and compose
in HTML email or turn it off, as you prefer.

If you have multiple aliases in one mailbox (account), when you reply it
automatically replies from the address to which email was received. This is
an important point for me, because I have several aliases and you would be
surprised at the number of email clients that overlook this feature.

It works well in Japanese too, which is also important to me.

And I like the way it keeps track of reply histories, finding originals to
replies, etc.

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Re: Linux vs Mac vs Windows

[Michael Scottaline]

On Sun, 28 Jul 2002 22:02:10 +0900
Doug Lerner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled intuitively:

>Interesting note. Thanks, Jonathan. Actually, no, there is nothing in
>particular I am looking for at the moment. But I am just getting started.
>
>I like using Entourage (I admit it!) in OS X, so I hope I can find a
>really nice, complete, multi-account, multi-user email solution in Linux.
>And guess what - I don't even mind paying for software I like! :-)

If you mean something quite large, w/calendering, etc., you can give
evolution 1.0.8 a look.  Takes a little while to load up, but I believe
ithandles all of the things Entourage does.  [I personally prefer
separateapps, so I don't use evolution.  I use Sylpheed for my e-mail and
gnomecalender for keeping my calender.]


>
>And I will be looking for an Office solution, and a Web authoring
>solution too.

For an Office suite give OpenOffice.org a try.  Handles M$ Office Suite
files quite well.  For a few bucks you can get a hold of its slightly
more full featured cousin, StarOffice.
HTH,
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Re: Linux vs Mac vs Windows

[Doug Lerner]

Ah! The Palace! I used to run one of those!

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On 7/28/02 3:32 PM, "Jesse Angell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> My main problem is I host palace chat servers, so I obviously need to be
> able to use the palace chat client. There is no linux version, and the
> people who created it no longer exist. I've tried downloading wine before
> and running it, and.. about half of it works. backgrounds won't download
> stuff like that, and that's simply not adequte. I am curious if anyone would
> do me a large favor, if I were to provide them with the palace client try it
> under the Crossover wine, or whatever it is, and see if it functions
> correctly.. To obtain it.. please contact me
> aim:   korruptdotcom
> icq: 56295559
> 
> 
> -
> Thank You,
> Jesse Angell
> Founder, PalaceUnlimited.com
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jonathan Bartlett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 11:28 PM
> Subject: Re: Linux vs Mac vs Windows
> 
> 
>>> 
>>> "Are there particular applications or peripherals you use, or would
> like
>>> to use, that work under Windows or Mac OS, but still there are no
> solutions
>>> for under Linux?"
>> 
>> With Crossover Office, which provides a Win32 emulation layer, the
>> application barrier has been pretty much obliterated.  As for
>> peripherals, the only problem I've ever seen is with WinModems.
>> 
>> As a Linux user, I often feel strangled when I have to work on a Windows
>> platform, because everything that you might want to do you have to pay
>> extra money for.  Print to PDF?  Mo money.  Use office applications?  More
>> money.  Do diagramming?  More money.  Do computer graphics?  More money.
>> Do basic database work?  More money.  Move my basic database onto a more
>> advanced platform?  More money.  Do accounting?  more money.  Build
>> applications? More money.
>> 
>> Sometimes I can find such software for Windows, but the hassle of having
>> to locate and install it, and the fact that it only works half as well as
>> with Linux makes it a tough choice.
>> 
>> With Linux, I just find the distribution that matches my needs, and for
>> about $100 I have all the applications I ever wanted, preinstalled, and
>> supported.  Some people don't understand the Linux desktop, but I don't
>> understand how anyone manages to get anything done in Windows.  It's like
>> the whole thing is set up to make as many roadblocks to getting work done
>> as possible.
>> 
>> For example, on Windows, every application tries to have it's own splash
>> screen, even if it's a small utility.  This is a pain because I just want
>> it to open and run.  As I said, it's like they are putting up roadblocks.
>> And when I want something automated, I can do that easily, too.
>> 
>> There might be a good application or two on Windows that's not on Linux,
>> but you can test it with CrossOver if you really want to use it.  I
>> haven't had any that I was dying for, though.
>> 
>> Hope that helps you on your quest.  Was there anything specific YOU needed
>> to know for your switch?
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> Jonathan Bartlett
>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Doug Lerner, Tokyo
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Linux vs Mac vs Windows

[Doug Lerner]

I must be in another world, but I have never heard of a Brother MFC 9200c,
Linksys or SpeedStream. :-)

doug

On 7/28/02 2:28 PM, "Todd A. Jacobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sun, 28 Jul 2002, Doug Lerner wrote:
> 
>> "Are there particular applications or peripherals you use, or would
>> like to use, that work under Windows or Mac OS, but still there are no
>> solutions for under Linux?"
> 
> A lot of all-in-one devices like the Brother MFC 9200c aren't supported at
> all under Linux. Getting IrDA to work on my Sony Vaio Z505-JS under Linux
> has been a large exercise in futility. --Oh, and anything Linksys will
> pretty much be hit-and-miss. They hate Linux users...but at least they're
> up-front about it, unlike SpeedStream, who won't support their own Wi-Fi
> cards or drivers under either Linux *or* Windows, if you can believe that.
> 
> --
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> friendship I share with my collection of singing potatoes."
> 
> - Holly, JMC Vessel *Red Dwarf*
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Re: Linux vs Mac vs Windows

[Doug Lerner]

Interesting note. Thanks, Jonathan. Actually, no, there is nothing in
particular I am looking for at the moment. But I am just getting started.

I like using Entourage (I admit it!) in OS X, so I hope I can find a really
nice, complete, multi-account, multi-user email solution in Linux. And guess
what - I don't even mind paying for software I like! :-)

And I will be looking for an Office solution, and a Web authoring solution
too.

doug

On 7/28/02 1:28 PM, "Jonathan Bartlett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> 
>> "Are there particular applications or peripherals you use, or would like
>> to use, that work under Windows or Mac OS, but still there are no solutions
>> for under Linux?"
> 
> With Crossover Office, which provides a Win32 emulation layer, the
> application barrier has been pretty much obliterated.  As for
> peripherals, the only problem I've ever seen is with WinModems.
> 
> As a Linux user, I often feel strangled when I have to work on a Windows
> platform, because everything that you might want to do you have to pay
> extra money for.  Print to PDF?  Mo money.  Use office applications?  More
> money.  Do diagramming?  More money.  Do computer graphics?  More money.
> Do basic database work?  More money.  Move my basic database onto a more
> advanced platform?  More money.  Do accounting?  more money.  Build
> applications? More money.
> 
> Sometimes I can find such software for Windows, but the hassle of having
> to locate and install it, and the fact that it only works half as well as
> with Linux makes it a tough choice.
> 
> With Linux, I just find the distribution that matches my needs, and for
> about $100 I have all the applications I ever wanted, preinstalled, and
> supported.  Some people don't understand the Linux desktop, but I don't
> understand how anyone manages to get anything done in Windows.  It's like
> the whole thing is set up to make as many roadblocks to getting work done
> as possible.
> 
> For example, on Windows, every application tries to have it's own splash
> screen, even if it's a small utility.  This is a pain because I just want
> it to open and run.  As I said, it's like they are putting up roadblocks.
> And when I want something automated, I can do that easily, too.
> 
> There might be a good application or two on Windows that's not on Linux,
> but you can test it with CrossOver if you really want to use it.  I
> haven't had any that I was dying for, though.
> 
> Hope that helps you on your quest.  Was there anything specific YOU needed
> to know for your switch?
> 
> Sincerely,
> Jonathan Bartlett
> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Doug Lerner, Tokyo
>> 
>> 
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System cpu use - scheduling overhead or what?

[Andreas Hansson]

I was looking at the cpu use of my linux machine and noticed a strange
effect when running more than one process. I am having it encode wave files
ripped on another machine to mp3s for my music library.

This sample was taken while copying wave files from the other machine:

01:36:54 PM   PID  minflt/s  majflt/s %user   %system   nswap/s
CPU
01:36:55 PM  7290  0.00  0.00 29.00 38.00  0.00
0
01:36:55 PM  6129  0.00  0.00  1.00 10.00  0.00
0
01:36:55 PM 28240  0.00  0.00 12.00  3.00  0.00
0

7290 is lame encoding wav -> mp3
6129 is samba, receiving wav from another machine
28240 is a process sampling data from the sound card

Forty seconds later, when the copying of that mp3 had finished, the cpu use
looks like this:

01:37:34 PM   PID  minflt/s  majflt/s %user   %system   nswap/s
CPU
01:37:35 PM  7290  0.00  0.00 85.00  1.00  0.00
0
01:37:35 PM  6129  4.00  0.00  0.00  0.00  0.00
0
01:37:35 PM 28240  0.00  0.00  9.00  0.00  0.00
0

As you can see, the percentage of system cpu use by lame has dropped
significantly, and that's for a process that has been doing the same thing
all the time. Shouldn't lame be getting around 84% cpu for the encoding when
samba is using 11% - now it seems like it's getting only around 30%... Why
is this happening? What can I do to fix it?

Andreas






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Re: cron.d

[Gordon Messmer]

On Sat, 2002-07-27 at 03:11, suresh wrote:
> I have configured cron to run a task at a perticular time of the day, but it
> runs during bootup as well. I wud wish it runs only at that particular time
> irrespective of whether m/c boots or not.
> any ideas??

Turn off the "anacron" service?




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Re: weird logwatch sendmail message

[Duncan Hill]

On Sat, 27 Jul 2002, Chet Nichols III wrote:

> Hey,
> 
> In the sendmail portion of my LogWatch, I've gotten this a couple times
> lately..not sure what it means, and if I should be worried at all, and why
> it's happening. Here's the message:
> 
> Authentication warnings:
> apache set sender to [EMAIL PROTECTED] using -f: 1 Times(s)

You have a script running under apache that called sendmail to send a 
message as you.  Because sendmail doesn't know that apache is a trusted 
user, it spits a warning, and puts said warning in the message headers.  If 
you want to be rid of it, search google for  sendmail trusted user .



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