Re: LinNeighborhood Issue?
Forgive me for being a dork, but how do I do that? On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 09:51, Michael S. Dunsavage wrote: When I upgraded to 2.4.20 I had that problem. As much as I hate making it suid I just went ahead and made smbmount and smbumount as suid On Tuesday 25 March 2003 10:33 am, you wrote: I've been trying to mount a filesystem on an XP machine and I get the following error: smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (500,500) smbmnt failed:1 Now, this has worked in the past. I'm not sure if I changed anything, however there has been one kernal upgrade since I last used LinNeighborhood. Not sure that would make a difference though. If I try to mount as root, I get this error: standard in must be tty Any ideas what's gone wrong? -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- J. Tim Willis A Computer without Windows is like a chocolate cake without mustard. -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: some question about UNIX terms
Tsuyoshi Takada wrote: Hi, all I don't know well about the following UNIX terms. Would you teach me about them? contrib ... I often see this word in ftp site. grep(1)... What does the number (1) mean? regards, I think contrib has it's roots in BSD - meaning contritubted software for the BSD project. I've seen a lot of older SunOS machines and BSD machines with /usr/contrib (instead of /usr/local). The (1) or (n) after a command is the section of the manual pages that the actual man page can be found it. For instance if you have grep(1) and grep(3) on your system, if you want the manual page for the user command, type man 1 grep. If you want the library call manual page for grep, type man 3 grep. Cheers, Ryan -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: LinNeighborhood Issue?
haha cd /usr/bin chmod +s smbmount chmod +s smbumount On Tuesday 25 March 2003 11:26 am, you wrote: Forgive me for being a dork, but how do I do that? On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 09:51, Michael S. Dunsavage wrote: When I upgraded to 2.4.20 I had that problem. As much as I hate making it suid I just went ahead and made smbmount and smbumount as suid On Tuesday 25 March 2003 10:33 am, you wrote: I've been trying to mount a filesystem on an XP machine and I get the following error: smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (500,500) smbmnt failed:1 Now, this has worked in the past. I'm not sure if I changed anything, however there has been one kernal upgrade since I last used LinNeighborhood. Not sure that would make a difference though. If I try to mount as root, I get this error: standard in must be tty Any ideas what's gone wrong? -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Access to the code
Mohammed Awad wrote: Dear all, I'm on my way to install redhat 8.0 for resarch purposes. My point is would I be able to get access to the source code of the kernel or even some parts of it (which ones?) , in order to modify the source ? If not, then where could I get the source code of the kernel, then? Thanks in advance Moh Awad. mohammed, if you just need the kernel source code, you could visit kernel.org, as far as installing RH8, you should check out redhat.com under download - mirrors. have fun. gene -- gyoo [at] attbi [dot] com -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (GNU/Linux) iQCUAwUBPhxERRxoVYCzmrKXAQJK5gP3Y7CTsFyKpEz2p5W4GWI9+qSm+kWfdJ0R xNlma0Ma9rAL/OBJcZMo5IXyXas+3Edogbv4Al6dIf8lot1WS0Iaxxl/cg2f7gf+ otf7LfNpZDE/6OzR7A1qN6baPMLSjGzywwQWMfSVuWWb6kGQxMsA13Kn68G7Ozxs 5CODZqUPyg== =AolA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Older Linux Distro's
Also www.linuxiso.org for most popular distros I wuld guess... Doug wrote: www.distrowatch.com - Original Message - From: John Nichel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 11:16 AM Subject: Older Linux Distro's I had heard a rumor a while back that there was a site which contained iso's/downloads for every stable release of every major version of Linux out there. Does anyone know of this site? -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- *Eduardo Silva* Wireless Network Engineer ESN 587 4664 PSTN - 91 709 4664 Mobile 600 595 219 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RH 9: ok, so i overreacted ... but i'm still miffed
On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 21:30:00 +1100 (EST) Roger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip So I built my own version of Red Hat Advanced Server 2.1 from the SRPMS and have a near automated process for building the errata RPMS from the SRPMS. I can install my custom built version of RHAS 2.1 on as many servers as I like (quite legally - GPL) without needing to pay Red Hat snip I would be interested in the process used to build the AS binaries from the SRPMS. Any howto's or pointers on where to look? Steve -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RedHat 9.0 - The Practical Side
On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 00:36:02 -0800, Jim Wilferling wrote Alright, so I'm annoyed. Just learning linux, and I've gone through 7.2, 8.0, and was anticipating 8.1. so now there's 9.0, so whatI've tried to install 8.1 beta rpms, and there were worse problems than there were with 8.0.So we copeI'm not about to switch distros so quickly, just cause of some version hullaboo. But I want the new release, If it contains gnome 2.2. Heres the rub. When they say binary incompatable, will my /home dir, which is its own partition, mess up a new9.0 istall? should I delete all my /home/Jim/.* files? And does this binary incompatability mean that I wont ever be able to just upgrade rpms on the fly? If not, is there a way to mount a disc image without it being on a disc? (I dont have a burner.) Basically, I'm game, But does it brown the food? I am a little confused now. Does all this discussion mean that no RH 8.1 will be released? If one goes from 8.0 to 9.0 should it be from scratch (argg...)? If not, will the migration be stable (I worry about old items hanging around corrupting the new stuff)? TIA, Mike. -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: CD writing faster when CD-ROM also uses ide-scsi
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 11:26:54AM -0500, Ward William E DLDN wrote: I hadn't seen any replies to this yet, so I'll venture an observation of my own: CDRW should be the master device on any IDE chain that they are attached to, at least whenever possible. I've noticed marked reliability concerns and performance concerns when the CDRW wasn't the primary on it's chain, so I would switch the two drives around. This has one inconvenient: If you're installing from CD, you will need to install using the CDRW drive instead of the CD-ROM one. If, like my Yamaha drive, yours is very noisy, it's goinig to feel like a looonnn install. That said, I hadn't noticed a problem with CDRW write speeds before in my setup (I have a Samsung 24-10-40 CDRW and a Liteon 16/52x DVD drive in my box, plus a 52X HiVal CD drive that I had had in the box until this past weekend, when I needed it's power connector to start my new RAID 0 array). I don't see how this could be a problem either. 48 * 150 / 1024 = 7MBps I really don't see how your computer could be sending less than 7MBps to the drive unless something is seriously whacked. Even with no special parameters, my drive was getting 16,67MBps. To the orignal poster: Have you tried tweaking the drives settings? Check your drive's manual to see what it can support (I'm in DMA mode 2, FWIW). Emmanuel -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: LinNeighborhood Issue?
Ok - now I'm a complete dork - I did the commands below, as root, and now I get the following message when I try to mount: libsmb based programs must *NOT* be setuid root. 1670:Connection to ISS-LAPTOP1 failed ?? On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 10:42, Michael S. Dunsavage wrote: haha cd /usr/bin chmod +s smbmount chmod +s smbumount On Tuesday 25 March 2003 11:26 am, you wrote: Forgive me for being a dork, but how do I do that? On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 09:51, Michael S. Dunsavage wrote: When I upgraded to 2.4.20 I had that problem. As much as I hate making it suid I just went ahead and made smbmount and smbumount as suid On Tuesday 25 March 2003 10:33 am, you wrote: I've been trying to mount a filesystem on an XP machine and I get the following error: smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (500,500) smbmnt failed:1 Now, this has worked in the past. I'm not sure if I changed anything, however there has been one kernal upgrade since I last used LinNeighborhood. Not sure that would make a difference though. If I try to mount as root, I get this error: standard in must be tty Any ideas what's gone wrong? -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- J. Tim Willis A Computer without Windows is like a chocolate cake without mustard. -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: LinNeighborhood Issue?
This is from linNeighborhood's website (http://www.bnro.de/~schmidjo/faq/index.html#faq16) libsmb based programs must *NOT* be setuid root We've heard about this error from RedHat 8.0 users and got some feedback how to avoid it (we don't run RH8, so it is untested from our side). One fix was posted from Pierre van Deijck. He set the following permissions to 'smbmnt' to avoid the problem: chmod 04711 smbmnt Another possible error could be that smbmount instead of or additional to smbmnt is set setuid root (posted by Bill Thompson). Please remove the setuid root bit from smbmount tool. Please test it out. On Tuesday 25 March 2003 12:17 pm, you wrote: Ok - now I'm a complete dork - I did the commands below, as root, and now I get the following message when I try to mount: libsmb based programs must *NOT* be setuid root. 1670:Connection to ISS-LAPTOP1 failed ?? On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 10:42, Michael S. Dunsavage wrote: haha cd /usr/bin chmod +s smbmount chmod +s smbumount On Tuesday 25 March 2003 11:26 am, you wrote: Forgive me for being a dork, but how do I do that? On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 09:51, Michael S. Dunsavage wrote: When I upgraded to 2.4.20 I had that problem. As much as I hate making it suid I just went ahead and made smbmount and smbumount as suid On Tuesday 25 March 2003 10:33 am, you wrote: I've been trying to mount a filesystem on an XP machine and I get the following error: smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (500,500) smbmnt failed:1 Now, this has worked in the past. I'm not sure if I changed anything, however there has been one kernal upgrade since I last used LinNeighborhood. Not sure that would make a difference though. If I try to mount as root, I get this error: standard in must be tty Any ideas what's gone wrong? -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Remove all existing partitions
Emmanuel Seyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It could start by not zeroing partitions on disk drives uninvolved in the OS installation, since there is no reason for it to do that. This is the part where I don't follow you. If partitions have not been created, how is the kickstart program supposed to know which drives are involved in the installation and which ones are not? I'm not sure I understand your confusion -- the answer to this is obvious: Clearly Kickstart knows which disk drives it is going to put partitions onto before it does so. Such is a logical requirement, or it would never be able to issue the mkfs command that actually does the work of creating a new filesystem. All Kickstart has to do to behave properly here is to refrain from issuing an fdisk command for the very same disk drives for which it refrains from issuing mkfs commands. Furthermore, in the specific case we were talking about, I told Kickstart to put partitions *only* on hda. Therefore, it knew well in advance that the only drive involved in the installation was hda. Other improvements might be for it to put up a splash screen at the very beginning of the process, detailing exactly what the installer is going to do, which disk drives it is going to muck with, and which partitions it is going to destory, and then ask the user to type confirm or somesuch. This sounds a lot like the procedure you go through when you abstain from telling kickstart to wipe out the partitions. First of all, it is completely different, because you might generate a Kickstart config a year before actually using it; the person running Kickstart might be a completely different person from the person who configured it; and you might run the same Kickstart config harmlessly on a hundred computers, and then on the hundred and first it might be run on a different hardware config where where the result of its execution would be quite detrimental. (For instance, it might be run a hundred times to upgrade a hundred desktop workstations, and then later it might be run on the departmental fileserver that has 100 disk drives on it. I bet most people would like to have some sort of explicit reminder that their OS installer will wipe all the data on 99 disk drives as a side-effect of installing the OS onto one of the disk drives.) Furthermore, Kickstart needs to be able to reset the partition tables on drives that *are* involved in the OS install, so I would hardly wish to tell it not to. |oug -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
User Initialization Script
Using Redhat 8 How do I run a command when user logs into the system? -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Full Duplex or Half Duplex ?????
Hi List, I need to know if my ethernet card is Full or Half Duplex. Where I can see this information? In /proc exists some file with this information? thanks Rodrigo NascimentoYahoo! Mail O melhor e-mail gratuito da internet: 6MB de espaço, antivírus, acesso POP3, filtro contra spam.
Re: User Initialization Script
Hi, put the command in the .bash_profile from the user. Greetz Using Redhat 8 How do I run a command when user logs into the system? -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: User Initialization Script
For one specified user: Create or edit the /home/user/.bash_profile if the command to run to all users Edit the /etc/profile See you, Ralph Guzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Using Redhat 8How do I run a command when user logs into the system? -- redhat-list mailing listunsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-listRodrigo Nascimento Analista de Suporte TécnicoYahoo! Mail O melhor e-mail gratuito da internet: 6MB de espaço, antivírus, acesso POP3, filtro contra spam.
RE: 38 GB partitioning advice
One last question. Since I'm doing all partitions onto RAID devices across my 2 drives, what's the proper way to do the swap partition? I had set it up on both drives just to be consistent without knowing any good/bad implications of that. I didn't want one drive to have a chunk of unused space equivalent to the swap partition size on the other drive. With a swap partition on two drives, would Linux use either/both and therefore be somewhat resilient in case of a drive failure? Just curious. Thanks! Stuart -Original Message- From: Joe Polk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 10:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: 38 GB partitioning advice I've not played with LVM myself, but it would certainly give you flexibility. If I don't find a buyer for my HP Netserver, I may just play with LVM myself. For a relatively static server, though, I think you'l do fine with the partitioning scheme I gave. I build most of my servers based on such a percentage or setup. Now desktops and laptops are a different beast. /usr really get's used then because you tend to want to load a lot of applications on them. My first Linux book was one that shipped with RH5.1. It did a good job of laying out what partitions are used for and recommended sizes. I've loosely used that ever since, upping the sizes for modern boxes and versions as I've moved along. Good luck on the project! Glad I could help. JAV -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RHCE certifications and how current they are - answer below
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 07:21:09AM -0800, Rick Johnson wrote: Its not the version number that people care about...the RHCE cert is based on version numbers. So the big jump in version numbers makes the cert worthless a lot faster! Those people haven't taken the 6 hour exam (mostly labs), and then compared the people who passed to the book-smart people who passed their MCSEs :-) For some more details on how current the certifications are now that the version numbers have all gone funny on us, please see: http://www.matrixlist.com/pipermail/leaplist/2003-March/029108.html He claims that this is the official answer. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RedHat 9.0 - The Practical Side
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 10:56:44AM -0600, Mike Vanecek wrote: Does all this discussion mean that no RH 8.1 will be released? Correct. Please see http://www.matrixlist.com/pipermail/leaplist/2003-March/029087.html If one goes from 8.0 to 9.0 should it be from scratch (argg...)? If not, will the migration be stable (I worry about old items hanging around corrupting the new stuff)? It's not 9.0. It's 9. I believe that Red Hat is still supporting upgrades - i.e. you can upgrade in place from 8.0 to 9. The documentation will be out soon - it's always released at the same time as the product so in a week you can check for the definitive, supported approach. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Full Duplex or Half Duplex ?????
I usually prefer to go to the vendor's web site directly and pull all the specs for my cards or any other hardware I install. Rebecca R. King Lead System Administrator Mississippi Department of Environmental Quality State of Mississippi Rodrigo Nascimento [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] hoo.com.br cc: Sent by: Subject: Full Duplex or Half Duplex ? redhat-list-admin@ redhat.com 03/25/2003 02:49 PM Please respond to redhat-list Hi List, I need to know if my ethernet card is Full or Half Duplex. Where I can see this information? In /proc exists some file with this information? thanks Rodrigo Nascimento Yahoo! Mail O melhor e-mail gratuito da internet: 6MB de espaço, antivírus, acesso POP3, filtro contra spam. -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: Full Duplex or Half Duplex ?????
Most auto-sensing NICs will latch at 100-full if possible. Best way to know for sure is to look from the other side. Do you have it plugged into a managed switch with at least one auto-sensing ports? If so, you could look at how the switch latched with your host in question. Stuart -Original Message-From: Rodrigo Nascimento [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 12:50 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Full Duplex or Half Duplex ? Hi List, I need to know if my ethernet card is Full or Half Duplex. Where I can see this information? In /proc exists some file with this information? thanks Rodrigo Nascimento Yahoo! Mail O melhor e-mail gratuito da internet: 6MB de espaço, antivírus, acesso POP3, filtro contra spam.
List Installed Programs
I am a newbie so I have what I think is a simple quesiton. How do I determine what programs are installed on my machine. I have been running RH8 for about a month now and I installed a progam to access a MS share but can not remember the program name. Is there a switch for RPM that will list installed packages. I looked at the man page and did not find a switch for listing installed packages. Is there a graphical package manager that will querry and list the installed packages? Thanks, -- __ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Hardware IRQs above 15 - new/unsupported Intel motherboard?
Hi all, I'm a longtime embedded/test programmer but still a bit of a newbie to Linux so bear with me. (I tried some of this out on the install listserv but they acknowledged a lot of this was over their heads which is why I'm here) I just bought a new 2.4 gig P4 system with a nice Intel D845PESV motherboard (sometimes they put an L after that too, I think that means it's got Analog Devices SoundMax and a NIC onboard as well). Well, first I installed Win2K on it and everything is working fine no problem. But when I tried to get RH8 running, some items seemed to install OK whereas others were giving all kinds of problems (like the soundcard, modem and network adapter, although the external FireWire card came up fine). Missing/out-of-date drivers? Whoa, not really, it gets more interesting! When I booted back into Windows and looked at the Win2K Device Manager, imagine my surprise when I noticed the following assignments: SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio- IRQ 17 Intel 536EP v.92 Modem - IRQ 19 Intel Pro/100 VE Network Controller - IRQ 20 (yeah I know it's just a cruddy HaM winmodem, PLEASE don't reply just to remind me - installing hamcore/ham just confuses the issue and addresses the wrong problem!! - when I get serious I can go out and upgrade to a regular DOS-compatible job) Kind of interesting (to me at least), typically PC-compatible meant hardware interrupts went up to 15 AND STOPPED. And this list corresponds very well to the devices I'm having trouble installing! Has anyone else seen this before? Know what it means? Am I going to have to wait for RH9 for support, or - this really worries me - does this mean my brand-new, less-than-a-month-old motherboard is already an unsupported orphan? (Would anyone from Intel care to comment - uh - would they dare?) Is there a beta version of the OS or parts of it addressing this issue that I could help test maybe? (I also noted that in dmesg it complained about unknown bridge resource 0 - assumed transparent which might also mean something to someone) Eager to hear what anyone can contribute to help shed some light on this. Regards, Jeff Lawton -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Sound card disabled
My sound card is installed and recognized but is disabled - how do you enable the sound card? I've posted this request before but haven't received a response - so i wanted to re-post this to see if anyone can help me out. Thanks, Mike -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RH 9: ok, so i overreacted ... but i'm still miffed
On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 07:39, Ed Wilts wrote: On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 08:52:39AM -0300, Martin Marques wrote: I surely have my systems on 7.3, and was waiting for 8.1 to come out. I don't know if I will switch to 9.0. If you evaluated Phoebe and liked it, why would 9 not suit your needs? What makes you think that 9 is that much different than what you thought 8.1 was going to be? It's just a number! If there is a technical reason for the change, then yes, it is different enough. The reasons suggested here are technical reasons, such as breaking binary compatibility. if the changes are enough to warrant a new major release number, then it will indeed be another X.0 release, complete with issues that tend to plague X.0 releases. -- Bill Anderson RHCE #807302597505773 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Full Duplex or Half Duplex ?????
On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 04:49, Rodrigo Nascimento wrote: Hi List, I need to know if my ethernet card is Full or Half Duplex. Where I can see this information? In /proc exists some file with this information? thanks Rodrigo Nascimento You should be able to open a terminal and type: ethtool eth0 ...and see the related information concerning your card/connection. HTH! -- Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kuhn Media Australia -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RH 9 -- a couple more questions and observations
1) since www.osnews.com already has a review of RH 9, does this mean that it's set in stone, and that no more adjusting or updating will be done? just curious. 2) if it's a finished product, can nvidia drivers be far behind? (he asks, tongue firmly in cheek.) 3) even if the product itself is not available yet, what are the chances of seeing release notes so we at least know what's coming down the pike? just so we can get a head start on mental preparation. rday -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: LVM or not
Jon Haugsand wrote: * Ian Dobson what is the benefit of LVM on say an 80 GB drive rather than just giving 78GB to / ? 1. Whenever you buy a new disk so you have 160 GB, you can easily increase any file system. 2. Whenever you want to reinstall, you can scratch / and /usr, while you keep the /home and /usr/local and /var. 3. In case of diskcrash you might still be able to save some of your data. 4. Playing around with LVM is cooler... 5. It is easy to move lvm partitions from disk to disk, using pvmove. 6. It is easier to maintain lvm partitions, adding new ones, deleting ones, etc. 7. LVM doesn't tap into your partition table. No more messing around with primary partitions, extended partitions, etc. You create 1 giant partition, designate it as an LVM partition, add it to a volume group, and you can slice the space anyway you want to. JMF This E-mail message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply E-mail, and destroy all copies of the original message. -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: Full Duplex or Half Duplex ?????
mii-tool -Original Message- From: Rodrigo Nascimento [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 12:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Full Duplex or Half Duplex ? Hi List, I need to know if my ethernet card is Full or Half Duplex. Where I can see this information? In /proc exists some file with this information? thanks Rodrigo Nascimento -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Sound card disabled
If you know what module it uses - add this to /etc/rc.local /sbin/modprobe modulename for example - the i810_audio module is what I need - so I use /sbin/modprobe i810_audio at the end of /etc/rc.local -=- Some sound cards (SBLive for example) don't seem to need this - but at least on my system, this one does. On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 10:07, Mike Taggart wrote: My sound card is installed and recognized but is disabled - how do you enable the sound card? I've posted this request before but haven't received a response - so i wanted to re-post this to see if anyone can help me out. Thanks, Mike -- Michael A. Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: List Installed Programs
On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 05:05, Heru Walmsley wrote: I am a newbie so I have what I think is a simple quesiton. How do I determine what programs are installed on my machine. I have been running RH8 for about a month now and I installed a progam to access a MS share but can not remember the program name. Is there a switch for RPM that will list installed packages. I looked at the man page and did not find a switch for listing installed packages. Is there a graphical package manager that will querry and list the installed packages? Thanks, You should be able to use the Software Package Manager to view the installed programs; but I'm wondering, was it LinNeighborhood that you installed? Or Gnomba? Komba? -- Wed Mar 26 05:10:00 EST 2003 05:10:00 up 4 days, 15:57, 3 users, load average: 0.04, 0.08, 0.12 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * MDK 9.1 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting machine no:194239 * RH 7.3 * Sales - Service - Support - Tutor -- ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** How many surrealists does it take to screw in a lightbulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools. -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Sound card disabled
On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 05:07, Mike Taggart wrote: My sound card is installed and recognized but is disabled - how do you enable the sound card? I've posted this request before but haven't received a response - so i wanted to re-post this to see if anyone can help me out. Thanks, Mike Have you tried opening a term and running: sndconfig ?? -- Wed Mar 26 05:10:00 EST 2003 05:10:00 up 4 days, 15:57, 3 users, load average: 0.04, 0.08, 0.12 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * MDK 9.1 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting machine no:194239 * RH 7.3 * Sales - Service - Support - Tutor -- ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** How many surrealists does it take to screw in a lightbulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools. -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RH 9: ok, so i overreacted ... but i'm still miffed
On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 07:30, Ed Wilts wrote: On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 01:09:02AM -0700, Bill Anderson wrote: Given the number of people who avoid X.0 releases, waiting instead for X.[1,2,3] releases, I would not be suprised to see a slower adoption rate. Some maye even see the 8.0 - 9.0 as a rush deal, and as a result be more likely to avoid 9.0. If you avoided 8.0 due to it being a .0 release, you are likely, in the general case, to avoid 9.0 for the same reason. Let me be perfectly blunt here. If you're avoiding a .0 release solely based on the numbering scheme, then you haven't earned the right to be a system administrator. Every release needs to be evaluated based on its strenghts and weaknesses and how relevant it is to your environment. I think you are being a bit arrogant here, Ed. I've been using RH since 3.x and am an RHCE. I've learned through *experience* that X.0 tends to be buggy, since historically it consists of a host of new changes, such as new kernel such as 2.0 - 2.2 - 2.4 - 2.6(or new kernel prep as was done in 7.0), new C libraries, etc.. Most of us have learned through *experience* that RH's and other vendors' initial releases of a new system (the X.0) tend to have many bugs, wich are discovered by people to install it, and are then subsequently released in the .1,.2, and occasionally .3 releases. In fact, the X.0 being the buggier of the reelase set is inherent in both open source and proprietary products. That's the point of release early and release often. It is my understanding that this release change is predicate on significant changes that break binary compatibility, including the NPTL, which is what, less than 6 months old? It is bound to have a host of new bugs, and unexpected interactions in it's first release. For most o fus, that is not a viable production system. We have made that decision through experience. To use that decision as a tool to say we haven't earned the right to be a system administrator is not exactly very tactful or respectful of others' opinions, and downright insulting. -- Bill Anderson RHCE #807302597505773 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: List Installed Programs
Heru Walmsley wrote: I am a newbie so I have what I think is a simple quesiton. How do I determine what programs are installed on my machine. I have been running RH8 for about a month now and I installed a progam to access a MS share but can not remember the program name. Is there a switch for RPM that will list installed packages. I looked at the man page and did not find a switch for listing installed packages. Is there a graphical package manager that will querry and list the installed packages? Thanks, rpm -qa samba is the package your trying to remember -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RH 9: ok, so i overreacted ... but i'm still miffed
On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 08:17, Rick Johnson wrote: Bill Anderson wrote: Given the number of people who avoid X.0 releases, waiting instead for X.[1,2,3] releases, I would not be suprised to see a slower adoption rate. Some maye even see the 8.0 - 9.0 as a rush deal, and as a result be more likely to avoid 9.0. If you avoided 8.0 due to it being a .0 release, you are likely, in the general case, to avoid 9.0 for the same reason. If memory serves, there are people on this very list that acknowledge they tend away from X.0 releaes. Many suggest staying away from X.0 releases as well. I would think it more dramatic for these people to suddenly be pro-9.0. Allow me to pass along an official correction from an insider - this is Red Hat 9, not Red Hat 9.0. Surely it would be 8.1 if binary compatability was maintained. -Rick And that changes what, exactly? Seriously, if it is not a 9.0, that would imply there will be no 9.1? Does this represent a change to just 9 - 10 - 11 - 12? -- Bill Anderson RHCE #807302597505773 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Full Duplex or Half Duplex Again?????
Thanks Douglas and Rebecca... But I think which I didn't know bade me... I know which my ethernet card works with Full Duplex, but I need to know if the eth0 is running in Full or Half Duplex...ok... Thanks again... Rodrigo NascimentoYahoo! Mail O melhor e-mail gratuito da internet: 6MB de espaço, antivírus, acesso POP3, filtro contra spam.
Re: List Installed Programs
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 01:05:53PM -0500, Heru Walmsley wrote: How do I determine what programs are installed on my machine. I have been running RH8 for about a month now and I installed a progam to access a MS share but can not remember the program name. Is there a switch for RPM that will list installed packages. I looked at the man page and did not find a switch for listing installed packages. # rpm -qa The package you're probably looking for is samba. # rpm -qa | grep -i samba Is there a graphical package manager that will querry and list the installed packages? Thanks, I don't do GUIs - learn it all via the shell and you'll get a much more thorough background. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: some question about UNIX terms
Ryan Dooley wrote: Tsuyoshi Takada wrote: Hi, all I don't know well about the following UNIX terms. Would you teach me about them? contrib ... I often see this word in ftp site. grep(1)... What does the number (1) mean? regards, I think contrib has it's roots in BSD - meaning contritubted software for the BSD project. I've seen a lot of older SunOS machines and BSD machines with /usr/contrib (instead of /usr/local). The (1) or (n) after a command is the section of the manual pages that the actual man page can be found it. For instance if you have grep(1) and grep(3) on your system, if you want the manual page for the user command, type man 1 grep. If you want the library call manual page for grep, type man 3 grep. GREP-General Regular Expression Print -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Errata Notice
I received an Errata Notice to upgrade Samba for security vulnerabilities relating to Samba. However, the upgraded version is not available, via up2date or alternate reference. Am I just too early to try and fix or... Thanks. Irwin -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RH 9 -- a couple more questions and observations
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 01:07:24PM -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote: 1) since www.osnews.com already has a review of RH 9, does this mean that it's set in stone, and that no more adjusting or updating will be done? just curious. The ISOs will be available on March 31. I'd be very, very surprised if there are more packages that will be part of the ISOs. Nothing, however, stops Red Hat from releasing updates as errata. They even issued/leaked an update for RHEL ES before the product was announced. 3) even if the product itself is not available yet, what are the chances of seeing release notes so we at least know what's coming down the pike? just so we can get a head start on mental preparation. You'll have the release notes no more than 6 days from now. For all we know, that's what they're doing between now and the 31st. I don't know, but another week won't kill anybody. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: RHCE certifications and how current they are - answer below
Interesting: Starting with Red Hat Linux 9 the numbering system for the consumer release will be stated only as an integer. So RH is trying to confuse everybody the same way Sun did with the Solaris version numbers. -Steve -Original Message- From: Ed Wilts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 11:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RHCE certifications and how current they are - answer below On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 07:21:09AM -0800, Rick Johnson wrote: Its not the version number that people care about...the RHCE cert is based on version numbers. So the big jump in version numbers makes the cert worthless a lot faster! Those people haven't taken the 6 hour exam (mostly labs), and then compared the people who passed to the book-smart people who passed their MCSEs :-) For some more details on how current the certifications are now that the version numbers have all gone funny on us, please see: http://www.matrixlist.com/pipermail/leaplist/2003-March/029108.html He claims that this is the official answer. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Hardware IRQs above 15 - new/unsupported Intel motherboard?
Jeffrey Lawton said: Has anyone else seen this before? Know what it means? Am I going to have to wait for RH9 for support, or - this really worries me - does this mean my brand-new, less-than-a-month-old motherboard is already an unsupported orphan? (Would anyone from Intel care to comment - uh - would they dare?) Is there a beta version of the OS or parts of it addressing this issue that I could help test maybe? (I also noted that in dmesg it complained about unknown bridge resource 0 - assumed transparent which might also mean something to someone) I have never used a P4 system(if I'm lucky maybe i never will), but IRQs above 15 are very common on Dual proc IA32 machines. e.g.: [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cat /proc/interrupts CPU0 CPU1 0: 155646450 155595630IO-APIC-edge timer 1:604606IO-APIC-edge keyboard 2: 0 0 XT-PIC cascade 4: 567483 569737IO-APIC-edge serial 8: 0 1IO-APIC-edge rtc 14: 2 8IO-APIC-edge ide0 19: 795915 798381 IO-APIC-level aic7xxx, aic7xxx, Mylex DAC960PRL 21:91253859120879 IO-APIC-level usb-uhci, eth0 NMI: 0 0 LOC: 311270291 311270279 ERR: 0 MIS: 0 thats from an Intel L440GX+ motherboard with dual P3-450Mhz cpus, running redhat 7.3(my one and only redhat box, the rest are debian) even under kernel 2.2 irqs above 15 worked fine. I think this is SMP-specific, so if your system is not a dual proc box, using the SMP kernel may help, though I suspect the SMP code won't enable itself unless it sees the additional cpus. so my thinking is maybe the board just has some weird hardware that the system doesn't like(one reason I'm not fond of the latest bleeding edge stuff, my fastest processor is a 2-year old athlon 1300), the dual p3-450 above is actually newer then the athlon :) good luck. nate -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: List Installed Programs
Heru Walmsley wrote: I am a newbie so I have what I think is a simple quesiton. How do I determine what programs are installed on my machine. I have been running RH8 for about a month now and I installed a progam to access a MS share but can not remember the program name. Is there a switch for RPM that will list installed packages. I looked at the man page and did not find a switch for listing installed packages. Is there a graphical package manager that will querry and list the installed packages? Thanks, rpm -qa will list all installed RPMs on the system.You can always rpm -qa | less instead of trying to scroll back. My guess is that you are looking for samba-client (on the command line smbclient). Cheers, Ryan -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Sound card disabled
SWEET!!! Thank you so much for that tip! It told me how to go about enabling it. Thanks!! Mike - Original Message - From: Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 1:11 PM Subject: Re: Sound card disabled On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 05:07, Mike Taggart wrote: My sound card is installed and recognized but is disabled - how do you enable the sound card? I've posted this request before but haven't received a response - so i wanted to re-post this to see if anyone can help me out. Thanks, Mike Have you tried opening a term and running: sndconfig ?? -- Wed Mar 26 05:10:00 EST 2003 05:10:00 up 4 days, 15:57, 3 users, load average: 0.04, 0.08, 0.12 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * MDK 9.1 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting machine no:194239 * RH 7.3 * Sales - Service - Support - Tutor -- ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** How many surrealists does it take to screw in a lightbulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools. -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: List Installed Programs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 13:05:53 -0500, Heru Walmsley wrote: I am a newbie so I have what I think is a simple quesiton. How do I determine what programs are installed on my machine. I have been running RH8 for about a month now and I installed a progam to access a MS share but can not remember the program name. Is there a switch for RPM that will list installed packages. I looked at the man page and did not find a switch for listing installed packages. Is there a graphical package manager that will querry and list the installed packages? Very useful would be the command-line solution: rpm --query --all --last | less Try it, you will like it. - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+gKFy0iMVcrivHFQRAli5AJ0X6LUAGN52K+6YwyWFfgpvHgVTyQCfXBhv JHpm72a2t74/S/0Eq+nRO6I= =YEv5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: Full Duplex or Half Duplex Again?????
Try: mii-tool eth0 If you don't trust the results look at /var/log/messages or /var/log/dmesg for relevant information which would have been logged when your machine booted and loaded the module for your NIC. -Steve -Original Message- From: Rodrigo Nascimento [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 12:20 PM To: RedHat_List Subject: Full Duplex or Half Duplex Again? Thanks Douglas and Rebecca... But I think which I didn't know bade me... I know which my ethernet card works with Full Duplex, but I need to know if the eth0 is running in Full or Half Duplex...ok... Thanks again... Rodrigo Nascimento Yahoo! Mail O melhor e-mail gratuito da internet: 6MB de espaço, antivírus, acesso POP3, filtro contra spam. -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RH 9: ok, so i overreacted ... but i'm still miffed
On Tuesday 25 March 2003 01:20 pm, Bill Anderson wrote: On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 08:17, Rick Johnson wrote: snip Allow me to pass along an official correction from an insider - this is Red Hat 9, not Red Hat 9.0. Surely it would be 8.1 if binary compatability was maintained. -Rick And that changes what, exactly? Seriously, if it is not a 9.0, that would imply there will be no 9.1? Does this represent a change to just 9 - 10 - 11 - 12? From the link here (posted on this list earlier): http://www.matrixlist.com/pipermail/leaplist/2003-March/029108.html Starting with Red Hat Linux 9 the numbering system for the consumer release will be stated only as an integer. The Red Hat Enterprise Linux AS/ES/WS product line will retain traditional decimal release numbering. Hm... this will confuse me. I fail to see the reason RH changes the numbering scheme. RDB -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: Hardware IRQs above 15 - new/unsupported Intel motherboard?
I doubt if having IRQ #'s 15 is your problem. I'm running RH 7.3 on an IBM Intellistation and have devices on IRQ's as high as 22 with no issues specific to the motherboard. -Steve -Original Message- From: Jeffrey Lawton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 12:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Hardware IRQs above 15 - new/unsupported Intel motherboard? Hi all, I'm a longtime embedded/test programmer but still a bit of a newbie to Linux so bear with me. (I tried some of this out on the install listserv but they acknowledged a lot of this was over their heads which is why I'm here) I just bought a new 2.4 gig P4 system with a nice Intel D845PESV motherboard (sometimes they put an L after that too, I think that means it's got Analog Devices SoundMax and a NIC onboard as well). Well, first I installed Win2K on it and everything is working fine no problem. But when I tried to get RH8 running, some items seemed to install OK whereas others were giving all kinds of problems (like the soundcard, modem and network adapter, although the external FireWire card came up fine). Missing/out-of-date drivers? Whoa, not really, it gets more interesting! When I booted back into Windows and looked at the Win2K Device Manager, imagine my surprise when I noticed the following assignments: SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio- IRQ 17 Intel 536EP v.92 Modem - IRQ 19 Intel Pro/100 VE Network Controller - IRQ 20 (yeah I know it's just a cruddy HaM winmodem, PLEASE don't reply just to remind me - installing hamcore/ham just confuses the issue and addresses the wrong problem!! - when I get serious I can go out and upgrade to a regular DOS-compatible job) Kind of interesting (to me at least), typically PC-compatible meant hardware interrupts went up to 15 AND STOPPED. And this list corresponds very well to the devices I'm having trouble installing! Has anyone else seen this before? Know what it means? Am I going to have to wait for RH9 for support, or - this really worries me - does this mean my brand-new, less-than-a-month-old motherboard is already an unsupported orphan? (Would anyone from Intel care to comment - uh - would they dare?) Is there a beta version of the OS or parts of it addressing this issue that I could help test maybe? (I also noted that in dmesg it complained about unknown bridge resource 0 - assumed transparent which might also mean something to someone) Eager to hear what anyone can contribute to help shed some light on this. Regards, Jeff Lawton -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: Red Hat Linux 9 | Get the latest Linux early (fwd)
Rob, before you get too worked up about this, I got it too... from the email address I used when I setup my up2date and RHN registration, which is NOT the same as this address, or any other address I've subscribed to any Redhat or Linux information on. So, whoever sent it had to have gotten the information directly from Redhat that THE William Ward at that address is also the same William Ward at this one... and only Redhat could know that (but they didn't send it to this address...) and even that's unlikely. Therefore, it was sent out to whatever address is on file with the RHN. Ergo, Redhat sent it out. Yeah, I get Spam on that address (75% of all messages to that address ARE Spam... it's my most heavily spammed email address), but most of those are Hi! Check out my webcam! or Please her, you sexy stud! or something else along that line :( Oh, and lots and lots of folks who want to do Confidential Business with me from Africa. Sheesh, save the world by taking out an African dictator intent on using Bio weapons on Beijing and blaming it on America, thus starting a chain that leads to a global holocaust, and it seems everyone in Africa knows who you are... /joke, /James Bond theme song background Bill Ward -Original Message- From: Robert P. J. Day [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 3:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: redhat mailing list Subject: Red Hat Linux 9 | Get the latest Linux early (fwd) Red Hat list admin: A number of folks received the following on the Red Hat mailing list recently. The overwhelming evidence is that it is spam, given the return address of redhat.chtah.com. If this is indeed what happened, it seems appropriate to bar all *.chtah.com postings to any and all red hat mailing lists, yes? The links contained in the message are a *clear* attempt to get subscribers to sign up for a completely bogus service, with the proceeds going directly to chtah.com. The faster this domain can be blacklisted, the less chance there is of someone being fleeced. Thanks for your attention. -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: some question about UNIX terms
Patrick Nelson wrote: Ryan Dooley wrote: Tsuyoshi Takada wrote: Hi, all I don't know well about the following UNIX terms. Would you teach me about them? contrib ... I often see this word in ftp site. grep(1)... What does the number (1) mean? regards, I think contrib has it's roots in BSD - meaning contritubted software for the BSD project. I've seen a lot of older SunOS machines and BSD machines with /usr/contrib (instead of /usr/local). The (1) or (n) after a command is the section of the manual pages that the actual man page can be found it. For instance if you have grep(1) and grep(3) on your system, if you want the manual page for the user command, type man 1 grep. If you want the library call manual page for grep, type man 3 grep. GREP-General Regular Expression Print Oops I mean Global Regular Expression Print. For even more info... Read on! GREP came from the first re's in a UNIX editor named ed. The way you did the re in ed was like: g/Regular Expression/p which was read Global Regular Expression Print. It was here were re got widespread use and because it was such a particularly useful function it was made its own utility (which egrep -- extended grep -- was later modeled). -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: LinNeighborhood Issue?
Tim Willis wrote: I've been trying to mount a filesystem on an XP machine and I get the following error: smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (500,500) smbmnt failed:1 Now, this has worked in the past. That seems unlikely. Unix systems don't let normal users go about mounting and unmounting filesystems. I'm not sure if I changed anything, however there has been one kernal upgrade since I last used LinNeighborhood. There's also been samba errata. You probably applied it. Doing so would have fixed the permissions on the samba client programs. You need to have smbmnt suid root to mount shares, and smbumount needs to be suid to unmount shares. chmod u+s /usr/bin/smbmnt chmod u+s /usr/bin/smbumount -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Full Duplex or Half Duplex Again?????
Rodrigo Nascimento wrote: Thanks Douglas and Rebecca... But I think which I didn't know bade me... I know which my ethernet card works with Full Duplex, but I need to know if the eth0 is running in Full or Half Duplex...ok... Thanks again... Rodrigo Nascimento Try |mii-tool eth0, or ethtool eth0. -- There is no such thing as obsolete hardware. Merely hardware that other people don't want. (The Second Rule of Hardware Acquisition) Sam Flory [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Hardware IRQs above 15 - new/unsupported Intel motherboard?
Jeffrey Lawton wrote: I just bought a new 2.4 gig P4 system with a nice Intel D845PESV SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio- IRQ 17 Intel 536EP v.92 Modem - IRQ 19 Intel Pro/100 VE Network Controller - IRQ 20 Kind of interesting (to me at least), typically PC-compatible meant hardware interrupts went up to 15 AND STOPPED. And this list corresponds very well to the devices I'm having trouble installing! Has anyone else seen this before? You wouldn't happen to have two processors, would you? This is exactly what it'll do. Each CPU will provide up to 15 IRQs. If you look in /var/log/dmesg, you should see something similar to this: [NOTE: this is based on my dual PIII-733] -- CPU0: Intel Pentium III (Coppermine) stepping 03 [ ... snip ... ] CPU1: Intel Pentium III (Coppermine) stepping 03 Total of 2 processors activated (2920.57 BogoMIPS). ENABLING IO-APIC IRQs [ ... snip ... ] IRQ to pin mappings: IRQ0 - 0:0 IRQ1 - 0:1 IRQ3 - 0:3 IRQ4 - 0:4 IRQ6 - 0:6 IRQ7 - 0:7 IRQ8 - 0:8 IRQ9 - 0:9 IRQ12 - 0:12 IRQ13 - 0:13 IRQ14 - 0:14 IRQ15 - 0:15 IRQ16 - 1:0 IRQ17 - 1:1 IRQ18 - 1:2 IRQ19 - 1:3 IRQ20 - 1:4 IRQ23 - 1:7 IRQ26 - 1:10 -- If you look at the IRQ mappings, you can tell which CPU is providing which IRQ, 0:* is CPU0 and 1:* is CPU1. Further down, while probing the PCI bus, I get this: -- PCI: Probing PCI hardware PCI: Discovered peer bus 01 PCI-APIC IRQ transform: (B0,I2,P0) - 19 PCI-APIC IRQ transform: (B0,I3,P0) - 18 PCI-APIC IRQ transform: (B0,I6,P0) - 26 PCI-APIC IRQ transform: (B0,I7,P0) - 23 PCI-APIC IRQ transform: (B1,I4,P0) - 16 PCI-APIC IRQ transform: (B1,I4,P1) - 17 PCI-APIC IRQ transform: (B1,I10,P0) - 20 -- And finally, when looking at /proc/interrupts, I get this: -- CPU0 CPU1 0: 83150590 82989093IO-APIC-edge timer 1: 62 61IO-APIC-edge keyboard 2: 0 0 XT-PIC cascade 8: 1 0IO-APIC-edge rtc 9:485520 IO-APIC-level usb-ohci 14:29171772941262IO-APIC-edge ide0 16: 7 9 IO-APIC-level aic7xxx 17: 8 8 IO-APIC-level aic7xxx 18: 662905 669133 IO-APIC-level eth0 20: 7 9 IO-APIC-level aic7xxx 23:74505187300518 IO-APIC-level eth1 26: 106346 107223 IO-APIC-level ide2 NMI: 0 0 LOC: 166157602 166157712 ERR: 0 MIS: 1 -- ( yes, the machine has two onboard Adaptec aic7899 Ultra160 SCSI adapters and an add on Adaptec 29160 Ultra160 SCSI adapter, which accounts for aic7xxx taking up 3 different IRQs ) -- H| I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: Red Hat Linux 9 - Obsoleting RHCE's a an unprecidented pace....
-Original Message- From: Gordon Messmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Rick Johnson wrote: What happened to 8.1? Have you been running the beta? There's a whole LOT of third party software that ran fine of 8.0, but not on the Phoebe beta releases. It seems to be mostly related to the NPTL changes in the kernel and glibc, and probably isn't something that can be resolved. If binary compatibility isn't possible, then Red Hat is faced with either the choice to delay significant improvements for another full year, or put out a new major release, which does not promise total binary compatibility with Red Hat Linux 8. Seems to me like a sensible choice. This is what I've been thinking since I got the email yesterday, too... that something in the RH9 release is incompatible at the binary level with RH8.0. Since that is the traditional hallmark of what version number is given to a release, if glibc is no longer compatible, or the gcc compiler no longer produces binary compatible code, Redhat by their own rules HAS to upgrade the major number. Oh, and for those crying about how it broke tradition of having a X.0, X.1, X.2, X.3 release... 7.3 was the first .3 release, IIRC, and I was surprised when I saw a .3 release and not 8.0 then. At the time, I just thought that MAYBE the code was starting to become more stable, and less likely to change (updates, improvements, etc., sure, but the BIG changes were slowing down, or so I thought). I guess I was premature. :( Of course, isn't this the first time that Redhat has ever announced a definite day for release more than a day or so ahead of time? That's a more interesting development from the business side, IMO, as it's part of becoming a mature software company to have public release dates (for whatever their worth). In the past Redhat has just said We'll release it when we decide to. Bill Ward -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RH 9: ok, so i overreacted ... but i'm still miffed
Reuben D. Budiardja wrote: Allow me to pass along an official correction from an insider - this is Red Hat 9, not Red Hat 9.0. Surely it would be 8.1 if binary compatability was maintained. [...] From the link here (posted on this list earlier): http://www.matrixlist.com/pipermail/leaplist/2003-March/029108.html Starting with Red Hat Linux 9 the numbering system for the consumer release will be stated only as an integer. The Red Hat Enterprise Linux AS/ES/WS product line will retain traditional decimal release numbering. Hm... this will confuse me. I fail to see the reason RH changes the numbering scheme. Three guesses: 1. Marketing? 2. To get rid of the .0 stigma? 3. To drive people to the Enterprise Linux Product? -Rick -- Rick Johnson, RHCE #807302311706007 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux/Network Administrator - Medata, Inc. PGP Public Key: https://mail.medata.com/pgp/rjohnson.asc -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RedHat 9.0 - The Practical Side
It's not 9.0. It's 9. I believe that Red Hat is still supporting upgrades - i.e. you can upgrade in place from 8.0 to 9. The documentation will be out soon - it's always released at the same time as the product so in a week you can check for the definitive, supported approach. Ok, this sounds good, but (and I'm new, so I just want to doublechec) When you say update in place, does that mean rpm -U ? Yes, I know i should just be getting a burner. But I'm lazy, and I thought I'd keep it down to less than 20 re-installs this month. -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: some question about UNIX terms
Patrick Nelson wrote: GREP-General Regular Expression Print Yup... I was just making an example :-) Cheers, Ryan -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: RHCE certifications and how current they are - answer below
On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 11:25, Rigler, Steve wrote: Interesting: Starting with Red Hat Linux 9 the numbering system for the consumer release will be stated only as an integer. So RH is trying to confuse everybody the same way Sun did with the Solaris version numbers. Yes, I'm sure the folks at RH all sat around and said Hey, I know, how about we do what Sun did with solaris and confuse everyone, that'll be productive! Oops, did I forget the sarcasm tag? ;^) -- Bill Anderson RHCE #807302597505773 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RH 9: ok, so i overreacted ... but i'm still miffed
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 11:00:12AM -0800, Rick Johnson wrote: Reuben D. Budiardja wrote: Allow me to pass along an official correction from an insider - this is Red Hat 9, not Red Hat 9.0. Surely it would be 8.1 if binary compatability was maintained. From the link here (posted on this list earlier): http://www.matrixlist.com/pipermail/leaplist/2003-March/029108.html Starting with Red Hat Linux 9 the numbering system for the consumer release will be stated only as an integer. The Red Hat Enterprise Linux AS/ES/WS product line will retain traditional decimal release numbering. Hm... this will confuse me. I fail to see the reason RH changes the numbering scheme. Three guesses: 1. Marketing? Yup. 2. To get rid of the .0 stigma? Not really. I wouldn't be surprised, though, to see Red Hat worry less about binary incompatibilities than they do today. The worrying will be in the Enterprise line where they'll face some serious consequences if they screw it up. 3. To drive people to the Enterprise Linux Product? The drive to Enterprise Linux is to get the long-term support and stability. This is, obviously, at the expense of being able to run cutting-edge products. I tried to install the latest mailman from rawhide onto an AS2.1 system and eventually gave up. The incompabilities are just too great. Does Red Hat want people to go to Enterprise Linux? Sure, that's where the revenue is. Without the redistributable line, however, Red Hat would have to do their own QA on every product that they don't even write, and they probably decided that shipping and supporting a free version was lower cost to them. I also think tha Red Hat is realistic and knows that not everybody will jump to RHEL - I certainly can't afford $349 per year at home for the OS. At work, yes, because my time is worth something. At home, I'll be running the redistributable versions for quite a while. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Hardware IRQs above 15 - new/unsupported Intel motherboard?
Nate, Interesting stuff, I wonder if maybe they put the dual-processor support chip in so some Pentium 4s can hyperthread? (This board doesn't, my P4's not 3.06 gig but the board design might be a bit more generic) So the real problem isn't kernel support for the high IRQs, it's that my PCI bridge chip isn't recognized and/or it isn't really transparent as assumed? (The boot process claims it can't find the RTC registers either, as far as I'm concerned it doesn't really HAVE to but that might be a clue as well) The chip appears to be an Intel 82801DB, ID# 244E. Does anybody know if/when it'll be supported or if there's a workaround? Jeff -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Errata Notice
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 10:25:36AM -0800, irwin wrote: I received an Errata Notice to upgrade Samba for security vulnerabilities relating to Samba. However, the upgraded version is not available, via up2date or alternate reference. Am I just too early to try and fix or... What version of Red Hat Linux are you running and which version of samba is installed? # up2date -p # up2date -l I've seen the updates available even as far back as for 6.2. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: (no subject)
I also did very well with RH7.3 and previous versions of RedHat going back to 6.2, but 8.0 never worked out for me. The system installation seems flawed (clipboard not working right; trouble with IPTables) and apps broken (pppoe, emacs fonts, etc.). My fumbling efforts to fix the problems have led to more problems (right now a gnome crash loop prevents my normal user from using the X server). Part of the problem is the desktop integration that makes manual editing of configuration files difficult. For example, from a console, how does one edit a file so that windows-switcher won't be loaded by gnome-panel when X server is started? From a console, how does one prevent gnome2 from loading gnome-panel when X server is started? By digging, I discovered a workplace-switcher help file that's more detailed than the one implemented in the workplace switcher, but its links to a workspacelist-prefs file seem invalid. All this undoubtedly due to my ignorance, but I suspect it may also hint that the *.0 version was a bit shakey. I was looking foward to 8.2, but because of my problems, thought I'd even venture an 8.1 upgrade. But I'm sure to be shy of 9.0! Since I prefer to configure files from the keyboard rather than gui configuration utilities, I'm considering debian. However, I'll first try gentoo and move to debian if gentoo overwhelms me. Haines Brown -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RHCE certifications and how current they are - answer below
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 12:25:49PM -0600, Rigler, Steve wrote: Starting with Red Hat Linux 9 the numbering system for the consumer release will be stated only as an integer. So RH is trying to confuse everybody the same way Sun did with the Solaris version numbers. And I suppose the whole world is confused by Microsoft's integer numbering too? How about your model 2003 car? What year was it built and what year was it sold? What ECOs have been applied? You don't buy a 2003.1 Ford Mustang that already has the fixes in it for the steering wheel coming loose do you? [I'm not Ford-bashing - I just made this up!] The US consumer market currently understands integer numbering. After all, you grew up with integers long before you realized that there was anything between 1 and 2. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RedHat 9.0 - The Practical Side
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 11:09:11AM -0800, Jim Wilferling wrote: When you say update in place, does that mean rpm -U ? Not really. I mean pop in the CD (or use one of the other installation methods like NFS or FTP) and do an upgrade. Yes, I know i should just be getting a burner. But I'm lazy, and I thought I'd keep it down to less than 20 re-installs this month. Burners are cheaper these days. My 48x burner was $20 after rebate and I've seen them for $10 since. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RedHat's RH9 site
http://www.redhat.com/mktg/rh9iso/ -- Aly S.P Dharshi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Student System Administrator/Network Analyst LDAP Project Department of Computer Science and Mathematics University of Lethbridge A good speech is like a good dress that's short enough to be interesting and long enough to cover the subject -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Evolution: Send later by default?
On Sat, 2003-03-22 at 19:01, Kevin Krumwiede wrote: Apparently so. *sigh* On Tue, 2003-03-18 at 23:56, Kevin Krumwiede wrote: I used to use Ximian Desktop. The pure version of Evolution apparently uses send later instead of send by default, because that's what it did and I never thought about it. I'm used to it being that way and I want to configure the RH version the same. But there doesn't seem to be a place to change the behavior of send, and there also doesn't seem to be a way to replace the send button on the toolbar with a send later button. Am I just SOL here? I don't think RH changes Evo *that* much (i.e. removing features, buttons, etc). Most likely you are comparing two different versions of Evolution. This may have been a feature in an older version which got dropped. I'm running Evo 1.2.3 and it doesn't appear to have this feature. -- Cliff Wells, Software Engineer Logiplex Corporation (www.logiplex.net) (503) 978-6726 x308 (800) 735-0555 x308 -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: Hardware IRQs above 15 - new/unsupported Intel motherboard?
Windows 2000 and Windows XP create virtual IRQ's which allow you to shove as much hardware as physically possible into the PCI slots. It has no bearing on the number of processors, as a previous poster has stated. (At least in the case of Windows 2000 and XP.) Regards, Robert Adkins II IT Manager/Buyer Impel Industries, Inc. 586-254-5800 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rigler, Steve Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 1:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Hardware IRQs above 15 - new/unsupported Intel motherboard? I doubt if having IRQ #'s 15 is your problem. I'm running RH 7.3 on an IBM Intellistation and have devices on IRQ's as high as 22 with no issues specific to the motherboard. -Steve -Original Message- From: Jeffrey Lawton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 12:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Hardware IRQs above 15 - new/unsupported Intel motherboard? Hi all, I'm a longtime embedded/test programmer but still a bit of a newbie to Linux so bear with me. (I tried some of this out on the install listserv but they acknowledged a lot of this was over their heads which is why I'm here) I just bought a new 2.4 gig P4 system with a nice Intel D845PESV motherboard (sometimes they put an L after that too, I think that means it's got Analog Devices SoundMax and a NIC onboard as well). Well, first I installed Win2K on it and everything is working fine no problem. But when I tried to get RH8 running, some items seemed to install OK whereas others were giving all kinds of problems (like the soundcard, modem and network adapter, although the external FireWire card came up fine). Missing/out-of-date drivers? Whoa, not really, it gets more interesting! When I booted back into Windows and looked at the Win2K Device Manager, imagine my surprise when I noticed the following assignments: SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio- IRQ 17 Intel 536EP v.92 Modem - IRQ 19 Intel Pro/100 VE Network Controller - IRQ 20 (yeah I know it's just a cruddy HaM winmodem, PLEASE don't reply just to remind me - installing hamcore/ham just confuses the issue and addresses the wrong problem!! - when I get serious I can go out and upgrade to a regular DOS-compatible job) Kind of interesting (to me at least), typically PC-compatible meant hardware interrupts went up to 15 AND STOPPED. And this list corresponds very well to the devices I'm having trouble installing! Has anyone else seen this before? Know what it means? Am I going to have to wait for RH9 for support, or - this really worries me - does this mean my brand-new, less-than-a-month-old motherboard is already an unsupported orphan? (Would anyone from Intel care to comment - uh - would they dare?) Is there a beta version of the OS or parts of it addressing this issue that I could help test maybe? (I also noted that in dmesg it complained about unknown bridge resource 0 - assumed transparent which might also mean something to someone) Eager to hear what anyone can contribute to help shed some light on this. Regards, Jeff Lawton -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RedHat 9.0
Steve Buehler wrote: I don't know if I missed it here on the mailing list or not but has anybody got a link to a page that tells more about the new RedHat 9.0? Basically, I would like to find out what the main difference is that would make them go to a new major release. All I can find on their web site is How To Get Red Hat Linux 9 Early. Which doesn't say what is new at all. Doesn't give any information except on how to get it early. Thanks Steve join the club, i've been scrawling around to find more info : ) ... -- gyoo [at] attbi [dot] com -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (GNU/Linux) iQCUAwUBPhxERRxoVYCzmrKXAQJK5gP3Y7CTsFyKpEz2p5W4GWI9+qSm+kWfdJ0R xNlma0Ma9rAL/OBJcZMo5IXyXas+3Edogbv4Al6dIf8lot1WS0Iaxxl/cg2f7gf+ otf7LfNpZDE/6OzR7A1qN6baPMLSjGzywwQWMfSVuWWb6kGQxMsA13Kn68G7Ozxs 5CODZqUPyg== =AolA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: (no subject) appended...
On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 06:36, Haines Brown wrote: I also did very well with RH7.3 and previous versions of RedHat going back to 6.2, but 8.0 never worked out for me. Don't feel badly - I purchased RH 8.0 just because it's been my habit of purchasing the new packs when they came out - but was blown away at the lack of ability to configure/control the environment - RH 7.3 was highly configurable and very stable; after trying to tweak RH 8.0 (on several installations, several different configurations) I ran consistently into data corruption (on top of the lousy configurability) and went back to RH 7.3 because I couldn't afford to spend the time mucking around with an obviously thrown together distro that was competing at the time with Mandrake for it's end user friendliness - sad marketing tactics there. I had put such high hopes on 8.1 (and subsequently the 8.2) and had already informed customers of such as well - but now, with the Version Scheme Change, my faith has been rather bruised, and that of several of my key customers has been shaken. I had truly hoped for stability and the ability to give concrete and reliable service to my customers - but with this rapid move through versions, that is eroding (or has eroded already) - and I'm going to have to change my business plan to suit. It is too bad that RedHat couldn't survey the public prior to this - which I see as an arrogant gesture on their part. SURPRISE! We're going to do THIS instead! Yeah, I'm really jumping for joy now. I was looking foward to 8.2, but because of my problems, thought I'd even venture an 8.1 upgrade. But I'm sure to be shy of 9.0! It's nice to say shy, but I'm actually devastated and agitated beyond the point of being nice - so I won't give out my cash so quickly or my time on testing it neither. I'm researching another venue because the instability of version releases is becoming more of a marketing scam than a technology move. Since I prefer to configure files from the keyboard rather than gui configuration utilities, I'm considering debian. However, I'll first try gentoo and move to debian if gentoo overwhelms me. Well, I have this STRANGE feeling that RH is going to become more and more GUI based, less and less configurable as far as desktop environments go, and less friendly for those of us that like to customise our systems to suit our needs. -- Wed Mar 26 06:30:01 EST 2003 06:30:01 up 4 days, 17:17, 4 users, load average: 0.11, 0.16, 0.25 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * MDK 9.1 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting machine no:194239 * RH 7.3 * Sales - Service - Support - Tutor -- ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** Apathy Club meeting this Friday. If you want to come, you're not invited. -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: DVD's in RH8
On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 06:30, Mike Taggart wrote: Is there any software already built in to RH8 to play DVD's? I've looked and don't see anything that would play back a DVD - but then again, this is all very new to me and am still learning. Thanks, Mike RedHat 8.0 has very little in the way of playing/viewing/manipulating anything. DVD's or MP3's. You're going to have to get the source or RPM's from elsewhere and install them. On the other hand, Mandrake's distro comes complete with everything necessary to play MP3's, DVD's, AVI's, MPEG's and just about anything else - and right out of the box, right after installation. -- Wed Mar 26 06:45:00 EST 2003 06:45:00 up 4 days, 17:32, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.09 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * MDK 9.1 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting machine no:194239 * RH 7.3 * Sales - Service - Support - Tutor -- ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** It's pretty hard to tell what does bring happiness; poverty and wealth have both failed. -- Kim Hubbard -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: Way OT: Really basic windows book
On Fri, 2003-03-21 at 11:51, Neumann, Shannon M wrote: I have often read (and have to agree) that if you want to get someone brand new to computers to use linux, then start them on linux. With newer desktop distros like Redhat8 or even Mandrake9, the learning curve for a brand-new computer user isn't really any steeper than it is for Windows. Just my .02. Exactly. My GF has RH 8 on her laptop (her first PC) and has no more problems than she would have with Windows. In fact, when she got the laptop, I offered to put Windows on it but she declined because she had already become familiar with Evolution, Mozilla, et al on my PC and didn't want to learn different programs. Bottom line is that a newbie will need help from an expert no matter what OS they use. If you know Linux and are willing to help, just skip the whole Windows bit. At least you won't have to worry as much about viruses and spyware. -- Cliff Wells, Software Engineer Logiplex Corporation (www.logiplex.net) (503) 978-6726 x308 (800) 735-0555 x308 -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: A code editor with auto-indentation ?
On Fri, 2003-03-21 at 13:28, Julien Olivier wrote: What I need is really a simple text editor with C/PHP syntax highlighting/auto indent. Here's a couple you might look at: http://anjuta.sourceforge.net/ http://glimmer.sourceforge.net/ -- Cliff Wells, Software Engineer Logiplex Corporation (www.logiplex.net) (503) 978-6726 x308 (800) 735-0555 x308 -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RedHat 9.0
On 3/25/03 12:00 PM, Gene Yoo [EMAIL PROTECTED] spit this out onto my computer screen: join the club, i've been scrawling around to find more info : ) ... -- gyoo [at] attbi [dot] com http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=3119 Try that - gives a little info... Dustin -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RH 9: ok, so i overreacted ... but i'm still miffed
On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 13:00, Rick Johnson wrote: Reuben D. Budiardja wrote: Allow me to pass along an official correction from an insider - this is Red Hat 9, not Red Hat 9.0. Surely it would be 8.1 if binary compatability was maintained. [...] From the link here (posted on this list earlier): http://www.matrixlist.com/pipermail/leaplist/2003-March/029108.html Starting with Red Hat Linux 9 the numbering system for the consumer release will be stated only as an integer. The Red Hat Enterprise Linux AS/ES/WS product line will retain traditional decimal release numbering. Hm... this will confuse me. I fail to see the reason RH changes the numbering scheme. Three guesses: 1. Marketing? 2. To get rid of the .0 stigma? 3. To drive people to the Enterprise Linux Product? How 'bout 4. All of the above Bret -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Linux equivalent of Solaris BSM?
I posted something yesterday about logging in Linux, but I suspect such a mundane question got drowned out by the busy thread on Redhat Linux 9. So, I'll ask again. Is there a function within Linux, without having to resort to a third party app, that can get the level of security auditing down to a very granular level, equivalent to the BSM auditing in Solaris? i.e. logging security policy changes, file deletions, etc thanks Paul -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: Remove all existing partitions
-Original Message- From: Douglas Alan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 12:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Remove all existing partitions Emmanuel Seyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It could start by not zeroing partitions on disk drives uninvolved in the OS installation, since there is no reason for it to do that. This is the part where I don't follow you. If partitions have not been created, how is the kickstart program supposed to know which drives are involved in the installation and which ones are not? I'm not sure I understand your confusion -- the answer to this is obvious: Clearly Kickstart knows which disk drives it is going to put partitions onto before it does so. Such is a logical requirement, or it would never be able to issue the mkfs command that actually does the work of creating a new filesystem. All Kickstart has to do to behave properly here is to refrain from issuing an fdisk command for the very same disk drives for which it refrains from issuing mkfs commands. Furthermore, in the specific case we were talking about, I told Kickstart to put partitions *only* on hda. Therefore, it knew well in advance that the only drive involved in the installation was hda. Doug, I've read these messages and I've come to a conclusion: You are one of those people who screws up, and then says I'm the innocent victim! It's somebody else's fault! Flat out, you are WRONG with your constant ragging about how Kickstart is messed up; you didn't know what you were doing (because you thought you did, and didn't read the Man pages or the docs to confirm it worked the way you thought) and decided that since YOU wanted it to work in a certain way, it MUST work that way. I'm about to be in the EXACT scenario you are mentioning, except for one thing: I need the drive to install the OS on to /dev/hdb, not /dev/hda. I have machines that already have an OS installed, and on THOSE machines, Linux is a guest in a dual boot system. By YOUR rational, if I try to tell kickstart to build these systems, it'll blitz /dev/hda and leave /dev/hdb alone. Nope, not the right answer. I want it to install to /dev/hdb, and not /dev/hda, so I need to tell it not to blitz the drives, and to install to /dev/hdb. By configuring it BEFORE I start, with knowledge of EXACTLY what I want it to do. Kickstart is only as intelligent as the person who set up the kickstart file. On the other hand, in a few months, I'm going to want it to blitz a different group of machines entirely; erase every drive, mount the root drive, and allow me to come back later and mount the newly slicked drives (variable to each machine, in that case) where I want them for data (using LVM, I'll probably make them one spanned disk). Different criteria. But I need to figure out exactly what I want with kickstart... it'll do it, but only if I tell it exactly how. And who knows, I might be able to figure out a way to get LVM to create the spanned volume in kickstart without knowing a priori what drives and sizes are available... which means I wouldn't even need to do the LVM by hand. A tool is only as good as the person wielding it; in this case, you need to admit the truth and say Mea Culpa. -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: DVD's in RH8
No but you can go get Ogle or MPlayer and play DVD's. Both are available in rpm's and will install easily. JAV On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 14:30, Mike Taggart wrote: Is there any software already built in to RH8 to play DVD's? I've looked and don't see anything that would play back a DVD - but then again, this is all very new to me and am still learning. Thanks, Mike -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: 38 GB partitioning advice
I would think, though I'm not using RH's RAID, that you would create the RAID set first then partition it. This way the SWAP would appear on both. JAV On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 12:54, Douglas, Stuart wrote: One last question. Since I'm doing all partitions onto RAID devices across my 2 drives, what's the proper way to do the swap partition? I had set it up on both drives just to be consistent without knowing any good/bad implications of that. I didn't want one drive to have a chunk of unused space equivalent to the swap partition size on the other drive. With a swap partition on two drives, would Linux use either/both and therefore be somewhat resilient in case of a drive failure? Just curious. Thanks! Stuart -Original Message- From: Joe Polk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 10:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: 38 GB partitioning advice I've not played with LVM myself, but it would certainly give you flexibility. If I don't find a buyer for my HP Netserver, I may just play with LVM myself. For a relatively static server, though, I think you'l do fine with the partitioning scheme I gave. I build most of my servers based on such a percentage or setup. Now desktops and laptops are a different beast. /usr really get's used then because you tend to want to load a lot of applications on them. My first Linux book was one that shipped with RH5.1. It did a good job of laying out what partitions are used for and recommended sizes. I've loosely used that ever since, upping the sizes for modern boxes and versions as I've moved along. Good luck on the project! Glad I could help. JAV -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Errata Notice
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 11:31:50AM -0800, irwin wrote: I'm running RH7.2 and the installed Samba is samba-2.2.7-2.7.2. The errata notice calls for upgrading to samba-2.2.8 Errata notice from whom? Please don't forget that Red Hat frequently backports fixes from a new release into a previous release. I've updated a 6.2, 7.1, and 7.3 system. My 7.2 system doesn't have samba on it. Go to Red Hat's web site and search for the errata there and see what version it says to put up. I found the samba alert at https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2003-095.html From here, it looks like you've got the patched version. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: DVD's in RH8
Haven't tried it myself (yet) however I understand that 'XINE' will play unencrypted DVD's. Found it on freshmeat.com. Been using it for other formats such as avi's and mpeg's. Quite a nice utility. --- Is there any software already built in to RH8 to play DVD's? I've looked and don't see anything that would play back a DVD - but then = again, this is all very new to me and am still learning. Thanks, -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: (no subject)
On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 10:15:14 -0600 Jason M. Kuhlman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Following the discussion over the last couple of days over the release of RH 9 has been interesting. Question: Obviously most of us are very fond of Redhat, at least up to 7.3 gathered by some of the heated discussion today. Since I would assume RH would be/is your first choice of a Linux distribution, what is your second and third choices? Just curious 2. Knoppix (drive install) 3. Debian 4. SuSE I decided to dump Mandrake (don't ask) or it might have been number 2. Number 2 listed there might become number 1. It doesn't have anything to do with any directions RH is going (or perceived directions) as it might be with some. I don't have any arguments with how they do things like some of the so-called purists may. I've just been looking to move along for a long while. Debian install gave me fits for a long time (it didn't play well with some of my hardware). Knoppix installed fine and is complete. After that Debian played nice, too. I'm also considering Gentoo. But it can't make the list until I have the patience to get it all installed. That's something I gave up trying to do on my other machine once already. it takes a long time since it all has to be built up from a bare-bones setup. RH will probably still stay around since I'm most familiar with it and I need familiarity to keep some server stuff working. It might lose out on the desktop real soon, though. Like in a couple of weeks. -- Apologies are so hard to give. Would you accept some potatoes instead? -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: RHCE certifications and how current they are - answer below
MS's version numbering system is so screwed it doesn't even deserve mention (am I a version number, a year or a 2 letter buzz-phrase?). The US consumer market understands consistency. Just look at how many sysadmins still say Solaris 2.8 even there is no such product. Given the posts generated by the announcement of RH9 it's obvious that there is going to be some confusion. Also, considering that RH's consumer releases come out about every 6 months, it looks like we'll be seeing RH 11 at about this time next year... -Steve -Original Message- From: Ed Wilts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 1:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RHCE certifications and how current they are - answer below On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 12:25:49PM -0600, Rigler, Steve wrote: Starting with Red Hat Linux 9 the numbering system for the consumer release will be stated only as an integer. So RH is trying to confuse everybody the same way Sun did with the Solaris version numbers. And I suppose the whole world is confused by Microsoft's integer numbering too? How about your model 2003 car? What year was it built and what year was it sold? What ECOs have been applied? You don't buy a 2003.1 Ford Mustang that already has the fixes in it for the steering wheel coming loose do you? [I'm not Ford-bashing - I just made this up!] The US consumer market currently understands integer numbering. After all, you grew up with integers long before you realized that there was anything between 1 and 2. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RHCE certifications and how current they are - answer below
Ed Wilts wrote: snip And I suppose the whole world is confused by Microsoft's integer numbering too? Almost the whole world are sheep for Microsoft, so that moot. The US consumer market currently understands integer numbering. After all, you grew up with integers long before you realized that there was anything between 1 and 2. That's great for the US consumer market, and non-tech products. But I'd have to say that the vast majority of people who use Red Hat understand the concept of version numbering. -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RHCE certifications and how current they are - answer below
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 02:48:00PM -0500, Ezra Nugroho wrote: I don't think that the integer only numbering is to confuse people. It's to eliminate the .0 versions that people dislike so much. Yup - so, from now on, they'll *only* be releasing x.0 versions... ;-) Cheerio, Thomas -- == RH List Archive: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=redhat-listr=1w=2 == - Thomas Ribbrockhttp://www.ribbrock.org You have to live on the edge of reality - to make your dreams come true! -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: amanda installati
Thanks. One more question is that if i install amanda from source code, do i also need to install amanda and amanda client on client machine and install amanda and amanda server in server machine? Thanks On Tue, 25 Mar 2003, Matthew Saltzman wrote: On Tue, 25 Mar 2003, Jianping Zhu wrote: I have three redhat 7.3 boxes, b1 b2 b3, only b1 has tape drive, I want install amanda for three machines backup system to tape. I can install amanda-2.4.2p2-7.i386.rpm on b1, what should i install on b2, b3, in order to do backup? Thanks You need amanda and amanda-server RPMs on b1, and amanda and amanda-client RPMs on b2 and b3. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list Jianping Zhu Department of Computer Science Univerity of Georgia Athens, GA 30602 Tel 706 5423900 -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
2nd Choice
Following the discussion over the last couple of days over the release of RH 9 has been interesting. Question: Obviously most of us are very fond of Redhat, at least up to 7.3 gathered by some of the heated discussion today. Since I would assume RH would be/is your first choice of a Linux distribution, what are your second and third choices? Just curious -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Linux equivalent of Solaris BSM?
http://www.tripwire.org/ I believe this is included in the RedHat packages as well. 'Hope this helps! Dylan Baxter - Original Message - From: Paul Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 1:13 PM Subject: Linux equivalent of Solaris BSM? I posted something yesterday about logging in Linux, but I suspect such a mundane question got drowned out by the busy thread on Redhat Linux 9. So, I'll ask again. Is there a function within Linux, without having to resort to a third party app, that can get the level of security auditing down to a very granular level, equivalent to the BSM auditing in Solaris? i.e. logging security policy changes, file deletions, etc thanks Paul -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: DVD's in RH8
Mike Taggart wrote: Is there any software already built in to RH8 to play DVD's? I've looked and don't see anything that would play back a DVD - but then again, this is all very new to me and am still learning. Thanks, Mike mike - i didn't see it either, but i downloaded OGLE - http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/groups/dvd/ gene -- gyoo [at] attbi [dot] com -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (GNU/Linux) iQCUAwUBPhxERRxoVYCzmrKXAQJK5gP3Y7CTsFyKpEz2p5W4GWI9+qSm+kWfdJ0R xNlma0Ma9rAL/OBJcZMo5IXyXas+3Edogbv4Al6dIf8lot1WS0Iaxxl/cg2f7gf+ otf7LfNpZDE/6OzR7A1qN6baPMLSjGzywwQWMfSVuWWb6kGQxMsA13Kn68G7Ozxs 5CODZqUPyg== =AolA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Linux equivalent of Solaris BSM?
Thanks, but no that doesn't quite do it. Tripwire only flags you that a certain file has been changed, but it doesn't give you a username who changed it, when they changed it, from what IP address were they coming from, etc, etc, things that good auditing will tell you. Paul Dylan Baxter wrote: http://www.tripwire.org/ I believe this is included in the RedHat packages as well. 'Hope this helps! Dylan Baxter - Original Message - From: Paul Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 1:13 PM Subject: Linux equivalent of Solaris BSM? I posted something yesterday about logging in Linux, but I suspect such a mundane question got drowned out by the busy thread on Redhat Linux 9. So, I'll ask again. Is there a function within Linux, without having to resort to a third party app, that can get the level of security auditing down to a very granular level, equivalent to the BSM auditing in Solaris? i.e. logging security policy changes, file deletions, etc thanks Paul -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: RHCE certifications and how current they are - answer below
On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 13:52, Rigler, Steve wrote: MS's version numbering system is so screwed it doesn't even deserve mention (am I a version number, a year or a 2 letter buzz-phrase?). The US consumer market understands consistency. Just look at how many sysadmins still say Solaris 2.8 even there is no such product. Given the posts generated by the announcement of RH9 it's obvious that there is going to be some confusion. Also, considering that RH's consumer releases come out about every 6 months, it looks like we'll be seeing RH 11 at about this time next year... Word I saw was that it will be a 12 month cycle. Seems to be an accomodation of the 1/3rd of peole who complain RH is to outdated, 1/3rd that complain it is released too fast, and 1/2 of people that complain it is too outdated AND released to quickly. ;^) -- Bill Anderson RHCE #807302597505773 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: 2nd Choice
Behind RedHat, I would say Mandrake or SuSE. JAV On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 15:59, Jason M. Kuhlman wrote: Following the discussion over the last couple of days over the release of RH 9 has been interesting. Question: Obviously most of us are very fond of Redhat, at least up to 7.3 gathered by some of the heated discussion today. Since I would assume RH would be/is your first choice of a Linux distribution, what are your second and third choices? Just curious -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Linux equivalent of Solaris BSM?
Kent Borg wrote: On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 03:13:30PM -0500, Paul Greene wrote: Is there a function within Linux, without having to resort to a third party app, that can get the level of security auditing down to a very granular level, equivalent to the BSM auditing in Solaris? Forgive both my ignorance and pedanticism. but I think I also have a suggestion that will be useful. Ignorance: I don't know what BSM is, but given your description I will make a guess. Pedandic: No, there is no such function in Linux, but Linux, per se, is just the kernel, and the kernel doesn't even include a shell. However, the Red Hat distribution of Linux, in addition to a kernel, does include a shell, and lots of other useful stuff. Suggestion: Tripwire (included in Red Hat) might be useful. It does cryptographic checksums of anything you tell it to check, and then on a cron task will let you know if any of them change. Downside: There is a commercial version of Tripwire that I haven't played with, and the free version, as Red Hat ships it, isn't very usable out of the box, the default policy file complains far too much. You also still need to figure out your procedures for how to manage OS updates and matched updated Tripwire checking to not accidentally let something nasty slip in Finally: To be really paranoid you want to do all your Tripwire checking offline, booting from a read-only medium such as a CD with a copy of the Knoppix Linux on it. That way you don't need to trust the very system you are trying to check. Except Knoppix Linux doesn't include Tripwire--not all Linux distributions are the same. (See Pedantic above.) I have been slowly working out these issues in my spare time, such as remastering Knoppix to include Tripwire, but am not finished. -kb Another option is SE-Linux by the NSA guys (yeap! *that* NSA) AFAIK, they control the integrity of every file in the filesystem with a sophisticated security method. Diserves to be read, very interesting -- Francisco Neira B. /~\ The ASCII Administrador de Red\ / Ribbon Campaign Defensoria del PuebloX Against Lima, Peru, -05:00 UTC / \ HTML Email PGP Pub Key at http://portal.defensoria.gob.pe/~fneira/llavepublica.asc -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RedHat 9.0
DuSTiN KRySaK wrote: On 3/25/03 12:00 PM, Gene Yoo [EMAIL PROTECTED] spit this out onto my computer screen: join the club, i've been scrawling around to find more info : ) ... -- gyoo [at] attbi [dot] com http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=3119 Try that - gives a little info... Dustin i was just giving my little sarcasm : ) ... -- gyoo [at] attbi [dot] com -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (GNU/Linux) iQCUAwUBPhxERRxoVYCzmrKXAQJK5gP3Y7CTsFyKpEz2p5W4GWI9+qSm+kWfdJ0R xNlma0Ma9rAL/OBJcZMo5IXyXas+3Edogbv4Al6dIf8lot1WS0Iaxxl/cg2f7gf+ otf7LfNpZDE/6OzR7A1qN6baPMLSjGzywwQWMfSVuWWb6kGQxMsA13Kn68G7Ozxs 5CODZqUPyg== =AolA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Linux equivalent of Solaris BSM?
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 03:13:30PM -0500, Paul Greene wrote: Is there a function within Linux, without having to resort to a third party app, that can get the level of security auditing down to a very granular level, equivalent to the BSM auditing in Solaris? Forgive both my ignorance and pedanticism. but I think I also have a suggestion that will be useful. Ignorance: I don't know what BSM is, but given your description I will make a guess. Pedandic: No, there is no such function in Linux, but Linux, per se, is just the kernel, and the kernel doesn't even include a shell. However, the Red Hat distribution of Linux, in addition to a kernel, does include a shell, and lots of other useful stuff. Suggestion: Tripwire (included in Red Hat) might be useful. It does cryptographic checksums of anything you tell it to check, and then on a cron task will let you know if any of them change. Downside: There is a commercial version of Tripwire that I haven't played with, and the free version, as Red Hat ships it, isn't very usable out of the box, the default policy file complains far too much. You also still need to figure out your procedures for how to manage OS updates and matched updated Tripwire checking to not accidentally let something nasty slip in Finally: To be really paranoid you want to do all your Tripwire checking offline, booting from a read-only medium such as a CD with a copy of the Knoppix Linux on it. That way you don't need to trust the very system you are trying to check. Except Knoppix Linux doesn't include Tripwire--not all Linux distributions are the same. (See Pedantic above.) I have been slowly working out these issues in my spare time, such as remastering Knoppix to include Tripwire, but am not finished. -kb -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: redhat-list digest, Vol 1 #7229 - 12 msgs
Where does one get the RPM's. I've had RH on and off for epochs now and can't figure out how to find any of this stuff. BTW I've tried MDK 9.1 RC2 and I get a GRUB problem so I can't state whether or not it would work for me anyway. I'd love to play a DVD with out the crap I've had to learn to deal with in Windows. Crashes, Frame Loss, Spotty sound quality. Sounds like fun huh? Oh well, any/all help will be appreciated. Message: 11 Subject: Re: DVD's in RH8 From: Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Kuhn Media Australia Date: 26 Mar 2003 06:49:17 +1100 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 06:30, Mike Taggart wrote: Is there any software already built in to RH8 to play DVD's? I've looked and don't see anything that would play back a DVD - but then again, this is all very new to me and am still learning. Thanks, Mike RedHat 8.0 has very little in the way of playing/viewing/manipulating anything. DVD's or MP3's. You're going to have to get the source or RPM's from elsewhere and install them. On the other hand, Mandrake's distro comes complete with everything necessary to play MP3's, DVD's, AVI's, MPEG's and just about anything else - and right out of the box, right after installation. -- Wed Mar 26 06:45:00 EST 2003 06:45:00 up 4 days, 17:32, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.09 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * MDK 9.1 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting machine no:194239 * RH 7.3 * Sales - Service - Support - Tutor -- ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Errata Notice
On Tuesday 25 March 2003 12:23 pm, you wrote: On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 11:31:50AM -0800, irwin wrote: I'm running RH7.2 and the installed Samba is samba-2.2.7-2.7.2. The errata notice calls for upgrading to samba-2.2.8 Errata notice from whom? Please don't forget that Red Hat frequently backports fixes from a new release into a previous release. I received the errata notice directly from RH. Piece of notice follows. -start Red Hat Network has determined that the following advisory is applicable to one or more of the systems you have registered: Complete information about this errata can be found at the following location: https://rhn.redhat.com/network/errata/errata_details.pxt?eid=1541 Security Advisory - RHSA-2003:095-19 -- Summary: New samba packages fix security vulnerabilities Updated samba packages are now available to fix security vulnerabilities found during a code audit. -end I've updated a 6.2, 7.1, and 7.3 system. My 7.2 system doesn't have samba on it. That sort of explains it. The Samba RPM I'm running, I discovered came from Samba.org not RH.So I was able to download the updated version from there. Now I just don't understand how come RH sent me the errata notice since that is not part of my RH rpm list. Irwin Go to Red Hat's web site and search for the errata there and see what version it says to put up. I found the samba alert at https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2003-095.html From here, it looks like you've got the patched version. -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: 2nd Choice
On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 07:59, Jason M. Kuhlman wrote: Following the discussion over the last couple of days over the release of RH 9 has been interesting. Question: Obviously most of us are very fond of Redhat, at least up to 7.3 gathered by some of the heated discussion today. Since I would assume RH would be/is your first choice of a Linux distribution, what are your second and third choices? Just curious 2.) Mandrake 9.1 3.) Slackware 9 --- BUT, with what's happened since last summer, I ditched RH 8.0 as my possible primary OS and stuck to RH 7.3; but recently have started working with Mandrake 9.1 (starting with beta and RC versions) and being that there is no way for RedHat to keep up with the packages available in Mandrake, it has now become my Number One OS, RedHat has taken slot number two, and Slackware still sits at number three. -- Wed Mar 26 08:30:00 EST 2003 08:30:00 up 4 days, 19:17, 3 users, load average: 0.21, 0.31, 0.18 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * MDK 9.1 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting machine no:194239 * RH 7.3 * Sales - Service - Support - Tutor -- ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** The meek will inherit the earth -- if that's OK with you. -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: A code editor with auto-indentation ?
I have already found jedit (www.jedit.org) which is great ! thanks anyway. Le mar 25/03/2003 21:02, Cliff Wells a crit : On Fri, 2003-03-21 at 13:28, Julien Olivier wrote: What I need is really a simple text editor with C/PHP syntax highlighting/auto indent. Here's a couple you might look at: http://anjuta.sourceforge.net/ http://glimmer.sourceforge.net/ -- Cliff Wells, Software Engineer Logiplex Corporation (www.logiplex.net) (503) 978-6726 x308 (800) 735-0555 x308 -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: 2nd Choice
My second choice would be Mandrake Linux, for their ease of install, multiple Filesystems to choose from during the install. Plus, I also like their default settings of many of the tools they include with the distro. At this time, I don't have a 3rd choice. It could have been SuSe, but I didn't like some of their default settings. The whole system just felt really alien to me. Sort of like the differences between Linux, AIX, IRIX and Solaris. (All of which I have either used professionally or played around with.) Regards, Robert Adkins II IT Manager/Buyer Impel Industries, Inc. 586-254-5800 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason M. Kuhlman Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 3:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 2nd Choice Following the discussion over the last couple of days over the release of RH 9 has been interesting. Question: Obviously most of us are very fond of Redhat, at least up to 7.3 gathered by some of the heated discussion today. Since I would assume RH would be/is your first choice of a Linux distribution, what are your second and third choices? Just curious -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RedHat 9.0
On 3/25/03 1:38 PM, Gene Yoo [EMAIL PROTECTED] spit this out onto my computer screen: i was just giving my little sarcasm : ) ... -- gyoo [at] attbi [dot] com I figured as much - but I thought the link might still be of interest to some... ;-) D -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: DNS problems NOT fixed
I was able to get it working by adding the following commands to iptables. -A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT -A OUTPUT -o lo -j ACCEPT I found this solution while searching Usenet. However, since I'm still very new to RH and iptables, I'm a little nervous about entering these lines. Am I opening any security holes by doing this? I'm not far enough along to really understand what this is doing. (Don't worry - I'm going to RH training!) -- Dana Holland[EMAIL PROTECTED] 903-875-7355 Navarro CollegeCorsicana, TX http://www.navarrocollege.edu/staff_pages/dana/dana.html All opinions stated are my own, and probably don't even vaguely resemble those of Navarro College. :) -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
