Re: [RDD] Feature request: Option to make the Vu meters go to 0 (rather than +8)

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I strongly support this requestVerzonden vanaf mijn Samsung-apparaat

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Datum: 20-09-2019  22:51  (GMT+01:00) 
Aan: 'Rivendell-Dev'  
Onderwerp: [RDD] Feature request: Option to make the Vu meters go to 0 (rather 
than +8) 

Hi all, I’m not sure if this is the right place or if someone can point me in 
the right direction of where to make a feature request suggestion (I’ve lost 
track a bit of where everything is these days), but would it be possible to add 
the following option (assuming it doesn’t already exist): In the digital world 
0 dBFS is of course the maximum audio level and that corresponds with other 
parts of Rivendell, such as normalising to (say) -18 dBFS. Therefore it’s 
always been a bit of an anachronism that, unlike much studio equipment, the 
meters are in Vu style ending in +8. This also causes some confusion as I 
believe +8 is actually 0 dBFS? Could we have an option to re-number these to 
end in 0 dBFS? Best regards,Jonathan-Jonathan CohenDirector – First FM Oxford – 
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Re: [RDD] Slow mysql (rdlogmanager generate log) on debian9

[Rick]

If your server has enough power you might create the log on the server to solve 
it on Debian Verzonden vanaf mijn Samsung-apparaat

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Datum: 30-08-2019  18:10  (GMT+01:00) 
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Onderwerp: Re: [RDD] Slow mysql (rdlogmanager generate log) on debian9 

On Fri, 2019-08-30 at 10:53 +, li...@lokum.ro wrote:> This is RD 3.0.3 from 
master on debian9> After going to sleep early in the morning... today I faced 
an issue> with the guys trying to generate logs.> > the system hangs and takes 
forever to finish... mysql service on> server is 100%Known problem when using 
remote clients with a Debian-based MySQLserver.> is there a fix ?Not that I'm 
aware of. It does not appear to be an issue with MySQL orRivendell itself (I've 
tested with MySQL v5.7 on both CentOS 7 andFedora 30; both setups work fine 
with client workstations). It appearsto be something to do with the way 
Debian-ish distros package 
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Re: [RDD] Help with Liquid Soap =-)

[Rick]

Usually this would be done by RDairplay using Jack connecting to Stereotool 
connecting to LQsoap. The default coockbook on the Liquidsoap site has enough 
examples to set you up for these two codecs streaming to Icecast. Verzonden 
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Datum: 01-08-2019  10:16 PM  (GMT+01:00) 
Aan: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org 
Onderwerp: Re: [RDD] Help with Liquid Soap =-) 

I am looking for help setting up liquid soap. I have download and 
installed it in CentOS 7. I would like to use two streams to an Icecast 
server. One stream is MP3 and the other is flac. I would like to use 
stereotool output to the input  of liquidsoap. And I need metadata from a
 text file from Rivendell. Any help or guidance would be much 
appreciated as liquidsoap is totally new to me and unfamiliar =-)Kindest 
Regards,Thomas E.
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Re: [RDD] Slow SQL performance

[Rick]

Yes I use it on bothVerzonden vanaf mijn Samsung-apparaat

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Datum: 28-07-2019  15:38  (GMT+01:00) 
Aan: Rick  
Cc: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org 
Onderwerp: Re: [RDD] Slow SQL performance 


Hi, thanks for that.
that tool is for server and client??
That tool said that i should ship-innodb and skip-name-resolve and i tried it. 
(etc/mysql/conf.d/mysql.cnf)
But after restart the tool says the same again.
Is that for server or client??
 
Am 28.07.2019 14:20, schrieb Rick:

Install mysqltuner and follow the tips.
 
 
 

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 Datum: 28-07-2019 12:30 (GMT+01:00) Aan: 
rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org Onderwerp: Re: [RDD] Slow SQL 
performance HiThe last days i've made some tests with the rivendell server.No 
matter what rd server ist running. The V3 from centos repo or a compiled V3 
version on debian 9... Only the rd client, based on the centos repo has the sql 
speed like the older 2.x version. So, it is only the client, that causes the 
problem with sql speed / latency.Any hints to solve.? Is there a way to tweek 
the sql client??Am 21.07.2019 21:46, schrieb Hoggins!:> Hello,> > I suspect I'm 
experiencing something very similar with my> Fedora-flavored setup, because 
some symptoms I describe in> 
https://github.com/ElvishArtisan/rivendell/issues/462 seem somehow> related 
("Edit markers" that takes a long time to show up or freezes> indefinitely, 
playback that seems to hang the system as well).> Besides, I discovered that 
generating a log with RDLogmanager *now > takes> three hours* when it only took 
30 minutes with 2.19.3. Could be a DB> problem?> > I'm currently migrating back 
to 2.19.3 because I'm facing a lot of> issues my station can't handle, and 
right now, rddbmgr (which is a > great> tool, BTW) used to migrate the database 
back to the old schema is > taking> ages. Now it's been running for more than 
45 minutes, and I'm not sure> this is expected.> > Hoggins!> > Le 21/07/2019 à 
13:58, Schwoon, newsletter a écrit :>> >> OK, test with centos client 
finished>> >> The centos client is as fast as the server. No problem... Whats 
wrong>> with the mysql setup in Debian/Ubuntu...?>> >> Am 20.07.2019 21:20, 
schrieb Tim Camp:>> >>> Localhost is slow as well, it depends on the size of 
the query of>>> course, loading a group of 2000 songs in rdlibrary can take a 
minute>>> or more.>>>  >>> >>> On Sat, Jul 20, 2019, 2:14 PM Schwoon, 
newsletter>>> mailto:newslet...@schwoon.info>> 
wrote:>>> >>> Hi Tim>>> >>> Do you have the problem, wenn Mysql is 
running on local host..? >>> >>> On my systems it's only on the client in 
the network...>>> >>> Am 20.07.2019 20:34, schrieb Tim Camp:>>> >>> 
Greetings,>>> I have found slow sql performance with Rivendell 3 on 
both>>> Debian 9 and Ubuntu 18.04. As of yet I have not figured out>>>  
   the culprit for this. Installing 2.19.3 on either distro does>>> 
not exhibit this behavior.>>> This is the same with MySQL or Maria 
db.>>>  >>> I would be happy to have someone find a solution as 
this will>>> keep me from moving version 3 into production.>>>  
>>> Initially I thought it was a problem with the distro, maybe>>>  
   it still is, but then I discovered that 2.19.3 does work fine>>> 
although it did seem a little bit slower than on Ubuntu >>> 14.04.>>>  
>>> After experiencing this on Ubuntu I then tried Debian 9 with>>> 
    same issue.>>> Perhaps Debian and by extension Ubuntu have changed 
something>>> that is causing this however there is the big 
performance>>> difference between rivendell 2 and 3.>>>  >>>
 All the testing I did was with a networked stand alone MySQL>>> 
server. Then just to see I installed the server locally with>>> same 
results.>>>  >>> Really shows a slow down when loading a new 
days log chain,>>> can take anywhere from 8 to 20 seconds for the log 
to load>>> and begin play.>>>  >>> I have exhausted my 
knowledge trying to figure this out. Need>>> a sql expert to tackle 
this.>>>  >>> Cheers>>>   

Re: [RDD] Slow SQL performance

[Rick]

Install mysqltuner and follow the tips.Verzonden vanaf mijn Samsung-apparaat

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Datum: 28-07-2019  12:30  (GMT+01:00) 
Aan: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org 
Onderwerp: Re: [RDD] Slow SQL performance 

HiThe last days i've made some tests with the rivendell server.No matter what 
rd server ist running. The V3 from centos repo or a compiled V3 version on 
debian 9... Only the rd client, based on the centos repo has the sql speed like 
the older 2.x version. So, it is only the client, that causes the problem with 
sql speed / latency.Any hints to solve.? Is there a way to tweek the sql 
client??Am 21.07.2019 21:46, schrieb Hoggins!:> Hello,> > I suspect I'm 
experiencing something very similar with my> Fedora-flavored setup, because 
some symptoms I describe in> 
https://github.com/ElvishArtisan/rivendell/issues/462 seem somehow> related 
("Edit markers" that takes a long time to show up or freezes> indefinitely, 
playback that seems to hang the system as well).> Besides, I discovered that 
generating a log with RDLogmanager *now > takes> three hours* when it only took 
30 minutes with 2.19.3. Could be a DB> problem?> > I'm currently migrating back 
to 2.19.3 because I'm facing a lot of> issues my station can't handle, and 
right now, rddbmgr (which is a > great> tool, BTW) used to migrate the database 
back to the old schema is > taking> ages. Now it's been running for more than 
45 minutes, and I'm not sure> this is expected.> > Hoggins!> > Le 21/07/2019 à 
13:58, Schwoon, newsletter a écrit :>> >> OK, test with centos client 
finished>> >> The centos client is as fast as the server. No problem... Whats 
wrong>> with the mysql setup in Debian/Ubuntu...?>> >> Am 20.07.2019 21:20, 
schrieb Tim Camp:>> >>> Localhost is slow as well, it depends on the size of 
the query of>>> course, loading a group of 2000 songs in rdlibrary can take a 
minute>>> or more.>>>  >>> >>> On Sat, Jul 20, 2019, 2:14 PM Schwoon, 
newsletter>>> mailto:newslet...@schwoon.info>> 
wrote:>>> >>> Hi Tim>>> >>> Do you have the problem, wenn Mysql is 
running on local host..? >>> >>> On my systems it's only on the client in 
the network...>>> >>> Am 20.07.2019 20:34, schrieb Tim Camp:>>> >>> 
Greetings,>>> I have found slow sql performance with Rivendell 3 on 
both>>> Debian 9 and Ubuntu 18.04. As of yet I have not figured out>>>  
   the culprit for this. Installing 2.19.3 on either distro does>>> 
not exhibit this behavior.>>> This is the same with MySQL or Maria 
db.>>>  >>> I would be happy to have someone find a solution as 
this will>>> keep me from moving version 3 into production.>>>  
>>> Initially I thought it was a problem with the distro, maybe>>>  
   it still is, but then I discovered that 2.19.3 does work fine>>> 
although it did seem a little bit slower than on Ubuntu >>> 14.04.>>>  
>>> After experiencing this on Ubuntu I then tried Debian 9 with>>> 
    same issue.>>> Perhaps Debian and by extension Ubuntu have changed 
something>>> that is causing this however there is the big 
performance>>> difference between rivendell 2 and 3.>>>  >>>
 All the testing I did was with a networked stand alone MySQL>>> 
server. Then just to see I installed the server locally with>>> same 
results.>>>  >>> Really shows a slow down when loading a new 
days log chain,>>> can take anywhere from 8 to 20 seconds for the log 
to load>>> and begin play.>>>  >>> I have exhausted my 
knowledge trying to figure this out. Need>>> a sql expert to tackle 
this.>>>  >>> Cheers>>>  >>> Tim Camp>>>
 WZEW-FM>>> Mobile, Al.>>>  >>> >>> On Sat, Jul 20, 
2019, 1:03 PM Schwoon, newsletter>>> mailto:newslet...@schwoon.info>> >>> wrote:>>> >>> Hi>>> >>>   
  I've installed the latest 3.x release on Debian 9.>>> The 
server is running inside a KVM virtual machine>>> without any 
problem.>>> Just like the server for the 2.x system. I've opened 
the>>> mariaDB Server>>> to the local network with 
changing the bind address line>>> to 0.0.0.0. The>>> 
audio ist shared with NFS.>>> >>> Then i installed on a physical 
machine the first rd3>>> client. It looks>>> very good. 
But it seems that the SQL connection is very>>> small. Changing>>>  
   the "show only the 1st.100 Carts" to show all in>>> 
rdlibrary takes one>>> minute. Open the "edit marker" dialog, 
too.>>> >>> The network is a switched 1GB/s lan, all clients are>>> 
    connected to the>>> same switch.>>> >>> 

Re: [RDD] Rivendell v3.0.1

[Rick]

Anybody tested compiling on RPI 3 using some Centos image yet?Verzonden vanaf 
mijn Samsung-apparaat

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Datum: 17-07-2019  16:47  (GMT+01:00) 
Aan: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org 
Onderwerp: Re: [RDD] Rivendell v3.0.1 

Thanks for this update.Can a 2.x Rivendell install be updated to 3.01 using 
'yum update rivendell', or does it have to be reinstalled?ThanksOn 2019-07-16 
5:44 p.m., Fred Gleason wrote:> On behalf of the entire Rivendell development 
team, I'm pleased to> announce the availability of the first production release 
of the next> major version of Rivendell, 3.0.1. Rivendell is a full-featured 
radio> automation system targeted for use in professional broadcast> 
environments. It is available under the GNU General Public License> version 
2.>>  From the 'NEWS' file:>> *** snip snip ***> Changes:> Rivendell is now 
Unicode UTF-8 clean.>> Qt4 is now used throughout Rivendell instead of 
Qt3.>> A multicast update system has been added that allows Rivendell> 
modules to update views syncronously in step with changes made in> other 
modules.>> The Rivendell Loadable Modules system for processing PAD data 
has> been completely replaced by PyPAD, allowing PAD processing plug-ins>   
  to be written in the popular Python scripting langauge. Backward> 
compatible replacement scripts for many of the RLM plug-ins supplied> in 
Rivendell v2.x are included.>> Added a compatibility library to facilitate 
the use of the Rivendell> Web API in external applications.>> A system 
of virtual log machines has been added, allowing play-out> of up to 23 logs 
simultaneously.>> Rivendell is now fully systemd compatibile.>> The 
Windows ports of rdlogedit(1) and rdlogmanager(1) have been> removed.>> 
Database Update:> This version of Rivendell uses database schema version 
308, and will> automatically upgrade any earlier versions. To see the 
current> schema version prior to upgrade, see RDAdmin->SystemInfo.>> Be 
sure to run 'rddbmgr --modify' (as root) immediately after> upgrading to 
allow any necessary changes to the database schema to> be applied.> *** 
snip snip ***>> GETTING AND TRYING THIS RELEASE> 
> Full source code for this release is 
available at:>  > 
https://github.com/ElvishArtisan/rivendell/releases/tag/v3.0.1>> Be sure to 
throughly read and understand the 'INSTALL' and 'UPGRADING'> files in the root 
of the source tree, as they contain important> information about changes 
between previous major Rivendell versions and> v3.x.>> An upgradable CentOS 7 
online installer is available. This is the> quickest and easiest way actually 
to try this release for yourself.> Instructions can be found at:>>> 
http://static.paravelsystems.com/rivendell-install-rd3/rivendell-install-rhel7.html>>
 IF YOU FIND A PROBLEM> -> If you run across a problem, 
please submit a detailed problem report> at:>>  
https://github.com/ElvishArtisan/rivendell/issues>> Be sure to mention the 
version of Rivendell [v3.0.1] in your> report.>> Cheers!>>> 
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Re: [RDD] Adding Remote desktop

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1. sudo apt-get install x11vnc
2. x11vnc -storepasswd
3. start on server with /usr/bin/x11vnc -usepw -noxdamage -many -display 
:0 -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:0 -forever -bg


4. connect remote vnc client

this works every day on RD setup / windows remote / linux remote

my setup currently is (a few) dell 380 X5450 quad processor running 
rivendell 2.15.1, Debian 8, Mate desktop and a few rpi3b+ arm quad 
processor RD 2.15.1 Debian 8 Gnome, both vnc 's connect remotely


regards from Holland, Rick


Op 11-6-2019 om 06:25 schreef ija...@jamcorbroadcast.com:




I have been Tried to adding remote desktop to our Rivendell system, 
with no Sucess.
I tried with X11VNC also TigerVNC. does any on have Remote deskop 
working and can provide a step.

by step guide
With XllVNC you try to connect with VNC It says no connection 
Available when You manual start the server.

X11VNC is was set up with the system.



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Re: [RDD] Riv 3.0 scrolls through logs after 3 days

[Rick]

Also starts scrolling at high speed when connection to storage or nas is 
unexpectedly lost,  using network-manager solves itVerzonden vanaf mijn 
Samsung-apparaat

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Datum: 18-05-2019  15:18  (GMT+01:00) 
Aan: "Brian P. McGlynn"  
Cc: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org 
Onderwerp: Re: [RDD] Riv 3.0 scrolls through logs after 3 days 

The only time I’ve ever seen RDAirplay race through the logs is when it runs 
out of audio channels, but it indicates that fact in the logs. This happened 
when our ASI card was set to 4 channels instead of 12.PatrickOn May 17, 2019, 
at 5:37 PM, Brian P. McGlynn  wrote:I see the 
same behaviour on RC2.  I have to restart the daemons to get it to work. I 
looked through the logs, and nothing was obvious. Sent from my iPadOn May 17, 
2019, at 10:06, Tom Van Gorkom  wrote:Using Riv 3.0 
with CentOS 7 with the Livewire driver on a standalone for both testing and a 
backup audio source if the automation goes quiet...Running a series of about 20 
logs in a loop, RDairplay runs fine for about 3 days at a time and then starts 
scrolling rapidly through each log. I have to force quit RDairplay and restart 
it again. I re-generated all of the logs to make sure there were no issues with 
them and started in different places with the same result. The same setup with 
Riv 2.19 and CentOS 6 on identical hardware works flawlessly. What might be 
causing this?Tom Van GorkomRadio Esperanza Engineering, KRIO AM/FM, KOIR 
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Re: [RDD] GPIO on Raspberry Pi

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Add a usb sound card ?Verzonden vanaf mijn Samsung-apparaat

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Van: Seth Stevenson  
Datum: 17-05-2019  20:57  (GMT+01:00) 
Aan: Fred Gleason  
Cc: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org 
Onderwerp: Re: [RDD] GPIO on Raspberry Pi 

So basically, I got it to work. The button on the switcher activates the macro 
and plays the audio file in rdairplay. However, there is no sound, due to 
rivendell competing with the soundcard installed on top of the gpio. Not sure 
there is any way to get around that except to use the pi onboard audio. This is 
a Pi B+. I'm guessing that it just is not workable. On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 
11:18 AM Fred Gleason  wrote:On Thu, 2019-05-16 at 
10:58 -0400, Seth Stevenson wrote:
> I was testing gpio on the raspberry pi. It seem when the I set up the
> carts on the gpio lines in RDADMIN it froze the whole pi up. I am
> using the kernel gpio and it is hooked up to a Burk LX-1 switcher.
> Any reason for this? As long as Rivendell is running the pi is locked
> up. 

A lot is going to depend on the specific model and what else is going
on on the pi. Kernel GPIO gives access to the entire set of defined
GPIOs, some of which are used for other things --e.g. the serial
console-- that shouldn't be messed with from user space. If you try to
use those pins, 'undefined things' can happen. Things get even more
complicated if there's a hat installed, as those too use various pins
in ways that are specific to the particular hat.

Bottom line, make a careful study of the GPIO allocation for the
particular model of pi in use, then ensure that you are modifying only
otherwise unused GPIOs.

Cheers!


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Re: [RDD] GPIO on Raspberry Pi

[Rick]

Interested in working with you on this.  I have GPIO on the task list. 
Did you make changes to /boot/config.txt for the gpio setup?


Did you download your currect SD image from Sourceforge? This has about 
4 or 5 bugs I remember. Especially the apache setup is incomplete.



DEBIAN 8 : cd /etc/apache2/conf-enabled
sudo vi rivendell.conf (new file) and insert

DEBIAN 7 :   cd /etc/apache2/conf.d
sudo vi rivendell (new file) and insert

--

# rdfeed.conf
#
# This is the Apache Web Server configuration for Rivendell.
#
#   (C) Copyright 2007,2010 Fred Gleason 
#
#  $Id: rd-bin.conf.in,v 1.4 2010/07/29 19:32:30 cvs Exp $
#
#   This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify
#   it under the terms of the GNU General Public License version 2 as
#   published by the Free Software Foundation.
#
#   This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
#   but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
#   MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the
#   GNU General Public License for more details.
#
#   You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public
#   License along with this program; if not, write to the Free Software
#   Foundation, Inc., 675 Mass Ave, Cambridge, MA 02139, USA.
#


  Options ExecCGI FollowSymLinks
  AllowOverride None
  Order allow,deny
  Allow from all
  
    SetHandler default-handler
  
  
    SetHandler default-handler
  
  
    SetHandler default-handler
  
  
    SetHandler default-handler
  
  
    SetHandler cgi-script
  
  
    SetHandler cgi-script
  
  
    SetHandler cgi-script
  

ScriptAlias /rd-bin/ "/usr/lib/cgi-bin/rivendell/"



cd /usr/lib/cgi-bin/
sudo mkdir rivendell
cd rivendell
sudo cp /var/www/rd-bin/* .
sudo chmod 4755 rdxport.cgi
cd /var/www/rd-bin
sudo chmod 4755 rdxport.cgi

DEBIAN 8 : sudo a2enmod cgi
cd /etc/apache2/
sudo mkdir conf.d
cd conf.d
sudo cp /etc/apache2/conf-enabled/rivendell.conf .


Now get into the Pi's root account by changing it's password by running 
sudo passwd root


to keep rivendell running 24/7 pi modifications as follows


crash cause 1: use AT LEAST 3 amp adapter

crash cause 2: use a-brand sd card like Samsung

crash cause 3: install network-manager

crash cause 4:turn off switch printer to local in vnc and set clourfb in 
expert settings to false


vnc>printing>allow the default printer to be changed off !

ad this point I also manually created /var/log/vncserver-x11.log because 
it was not there


touch /var/log/vncserver-x11.log

chown pi:root /var/log/vncserver-x11.log

crash cause 5:turn off the onboardwifi

sudo vi /boot/config.txt

add this line after #dtoverlay=lirc-rpi

dtoverlay=pi3-disable-wifi

crash cause 6:

sudo systemctl disable triggerhappy.socket


If Rivendell still hangs get me the appropriate log messages


regards from Holland, Rick

Op 16-5-2019 om 16:58 schreef Seth Stevenson:

Greetings,

I was testing gpio on the raspberry pi. It seem when the I set up the 
carts on the gpio lines in RDADMIN it froze the whole pi up. I am 
using the kernel gpio and it is hooked up to a Burk LX-1 switcher. Any 
reason for this? As long as Rivendell is running the pi is locked up.


--
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Station Operations Manager
Bible Broadcasting Network

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Re: [RDD] Best Computers for Rivendell

[Rick]

Creative Audigy 2 cards are also great indeed. I have a few complete sets / 
boxes with golden connectors and their value is these days crazy low second 
hand for what they have to offer.Verzonden vanaf mijn Samsung-apparaat

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Datum: 08-05-2019  17:23  (GMT+01:00) 
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Onderwerp: Re: [RDD] Best Computers for Rivendell 

Both.  I've got AudioScience cards in my works machines and Creative Audigy 2 
cards in my home test machines.  I have to use Audigy FX cards in the SFF 
machines as they are half height, but can use the full height Audigy 2 cards in 
the CMT machines. On Wed, 08 May 2019 13:53:09 +0100 Al Peterson 
 wrote Andy, when you say "full size 
soundcard", are you working with the AudioScience interfaces, or something a 
little more commercially plentiful? Not to hijack the subject but I am most 
interested in knowing the performance and behavior of RD when using current 
multichannel USB-type audio interfaces, such as Behringer's 8x8 model ADA8200. 
Affordability and assignable outputs are my primary concerns and I don't need 
timesqueeze. And I don't have to worry about a card fitting into the chassis.Al 
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Re: [RDD] RAID management question

[Rick]

Usually this is the order I take. I remove your sdb from the hardware. The 
whole purpose of the raid system is that sda now kicks in at startup The spare 
can now replace sdb in the setup on your command. Now you shut down, restart 
check it and then it's time to put in the new stuff. There is a better way 
without hardware action. To me this feels more failsafe.Verzonden vanaf mijn 
Samsung-apparaat

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Datum: 01-05-2019  17:28  (GMT+01:00) 
Aan: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org 
Onderwerp: [RDD] RAID management question 

Current server setup is raid1 with three drives. (pair and a spare) with 
lvm./var is on its own logical partition, and the library has outgrown the 
disk.The motherboard has four sata inputs. I want to reduce the existing raid 
to two drives so I can put in two large drives and make a second raid to hold 
/var.The three existing drives are sda, sdb and sdc. I want to remove sdb and 
put sdc (the spare) in its place.The question is, what order do I do things? 
Which drive(s) do I fail, and when? Can I just shut the machine down, remove 
sdb and plug sdc into the second sata input? Then reboot and remove the missing 
sdc from the array? Does mdadm identify the drive by its device name or by the 
uuid? Will it get mad at me if I change the order of the 
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Re: [RDD] Missing Groups in Airplay

[Rick]

Check your RD user vs your user login name and check /etc/hostname vs the host 
you created in rdadmin and are now using. Both should match and you can find 
this RD data at the top of rdlibrary. Verzonden vanaf mijn Samsung-apparaat

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Aan: Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org 
Onderwerp: [RDD] Missing Groups in Airplay 

HiI am very new to Rivendell so please excuse me if this question appears a bit 
stupid.I have been loading music carts using RDLibrary and have been editing 
the various markers in two Groups - "Drive" and "Feelgood".I have also been 
experimenting with Clocks and Grids and have managed to create two clocks, 
placed them in a grid and they appear to work fine. However, when using 
RDAirplay (either when a clock is active or not) and I wish to Add a cart the 
two groups do not appear in the drop down list. Neither do the carts in those 
groups appear in the "All" Section.The two groups do appear in all other 
modules except RDLogEdit where I get a message "This log contains one or more 
carts that are invalid for the selected service" Could that be the issue?Any 
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Re: [RDD] Taking Streams with Rivendell Automation

[Rick]

Nope. You install jackd qjackctl liquidsoap liquidsoap-plugin-all. Start 
qjackctl and patch rivendell to liquidsoap. LQsoap script takes care of the 
feed to the streamer in the datacentre. When you set the output in rdadmin to 
"soundcard" jack and put your soundcard off in bios you are full 
digital.Verzonden vanaf mijn Samsung-apparaat

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Datum: 16-04-2019  22:00  (GMT+01:00) 
Aan: Ryan Kin  
Cc: rivendell-dev  
Onderwerp: Re: [RDD] Taking Streams with Rivendell Automation 

I've been connecting to a remote stream using alsa for over 4 years now I 
put some scripts and instructions on my blog It required 3 soundcards and a 
Patch cable from the green speaker output plug on soundcard 3 to the blue line 
in socket on soundcard 
1.http://geofffromdunedin.blogspot.com/2014/08/connecting-to-remote-webstream-with.htmlandhttp://geofffromdunedin.blogspot.com/2014/08/disconnecting-from-stream.htmlIts
 quite complex and I can explain more if required.Many ThanksGeoff 
BarkmanDunedin New ZealandOn Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 3:35 AM Ryan Kin 
 wrote:I know that it's not 100% physically possible to 
take streams through RDAirplay, but you can do it with external software and 
RDCatch along with JACK. I'm not too JACK Savvy and was wondering how I can 
have JACK take a source through VLC then have VLC feed into JACK to go into 
RDAirplay's Source Take feature and have Rivendell's Macros load the source and 
VLC at the same time, then when it's done, have another Macros key kill the 
source.
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Re: [RDD] Taking Streams with Rivendell Automation

[Rick]

For this you should use a jack-rivendell-liquidsoap setup and put the logical 
switch in your liquidsoap script Verzonden vanaf mijn Samsung-apparaat

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Datum: 14-04-2019  17:35  (GMT+01:00) 
Aan: rivendell-dev  
Onderwerp: [RDD]  Taking Streams with Rivendell Automation 

I know that it's not 100% physically possible to take streams through 
RDAirplay, but you can do it with external software and RDCatch along with 
JACK. I'm not too JACK Savvy and was wondering how I can have JACK take a 
source through VLC then have VLC feed into JACK to go into RDAirplay's Source 
Take feature and have Rivendell's Macros load the source and VLC at the same 
time, then when it's done, have another Macros key kill the source.
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Re: [RDD] Cent OS

[Rick]

A used Dell is a trouble free RD machines in Legacy mode over 5 years with us 
on 3 models we ran live on Debian:  745 755 (amd) and 380Verzonden vanaf mijn 
Samsung-apparaat

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Datum: 29-03-2019  16:41  (GMT+01:00) 
Aan: Andy Higginson  
Cc: rivendell-dev  
Onderwerp: Re: [RDD] Cent OS 

I also have found that it depends on the computer BIOS which way works best 
(DVD or USB) and have been frustrated with Lenovos in the past. I find that 
used Dells work every time without issues... so far. You often have to install 
using legacy mode instead of UEFI.Tom Van GorkomRadio Esperanza Engineering, 
KRIO AM/FM, KOIR FMOffice: 956-380-8150   Cell: 865-803-7427Rio Grande Bible 
Institute4300 S US Hwy 281Edinburg, TX 78539On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 10:20 AM 
Andy Higginson  wrote:Hi,How are you trying to install 
CentOS?  Is it CentOS7?  I've found that a problem that I had with CentOS 7.6 
went away by using CentOS 7.5 (it may have been 7.5 drop down to 7.4 - 
everything merges into the past).  Try with an older sub version of the 
installer.  It will still update to the latest once you have installed it.I 
created my installer on USB by downloading the .iso file and then doing this    
dd if=CentOS-7-x86_64-Minimal-1708.iso of=/dev/sdX   where X is the USB drive.  
This has worked for me so far.Andy On Fri, 29 Mar 2019 13:06:25 + Gavin 
Stephens  wrote Well I had some older Lenovo 
Core2Duo machines (7360 CTO ThinkCenter's) arrive today to mark them for RD 
installation with new HDD's. Unfortunately Cent OS minimal ISO and full 64-bit 
wont install.I keep getting something to do with failed to claim resource 0, 
then eventually goes to a emergency mode shell.I thought it maybe BIOS so I've 
tried enabling/disabling AHCPI. Setting SATA to IDE and back. Tried setting 
enable/disable plug n play OS etc... all in different combinations but no luck. 
These machines don't have any other hardware than the default on-board sound, 
ethernet, usb etc... no PCI or PCIx cards.Looks like these machines are no good 
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Re: [RDD] Scheduler codes time taken

[Rick]

One of the tools we used to improve and reduce the time generating complicated 
logs was mysqltuner. Optimizing mysql for which in some cases you have to 
increase RAM has effect.Verzonden vanaf mijn Samsung-apparaat

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Datum: 19-03-2019  21:54  (GMT+01:00) 
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Onderwerp: Re: [RDD] Scheduler codes time taken 


Stan:
How many scheduler codes do you use per clock?  I have about 25
  scheduler codes but I don't use all of them for any
  given clock. My most complicated clock takes about 5 minutes to
  generate a 24-hour log.

Rich


On 3/19/2019 04:37, Stan Fotinos wrote:


  Hi all

I have just experimented using scheduler codes to create music clocks. What I 
am finding is that it takes approximately 5 mins to create 1 hour with 20 music 
tracks per hour and approximately 2hrs to create to create a day’s music log.

If I only use a group or groups with no codes it takes approximately 30 seconds 
to create an hour clock.

Could some one please tell me if this is the amount it should take to create 20 
tracks per hour? Anyone else experienced anything similar?

Centos 7 Rivendell 2.19.3

Thank you

Stan 
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Re: [RDD] Orphaned stack

[Rick]

Hey Tom, Like you after 5 years we ran some utilities among which rddbcheck. 
Our database backup went from 350 Mb to 90 Mb (12 services network setup). 
Yesterday I ran it again just to see what happens. Once again these orphaned 
stacks also. We also experience undocumented features in rdmarkerset. We 
noticed a few weeks ago there was a map with these utilities but even in the 
ROG 2.18 documentation their existence is about one line of text.Regards from 
Holland,RickVerzonden vanaf mijn Samsung-apparaat

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Datum: 11-03-2019  13:55  (GMT+01:00) 
Aan: Rivendell-Dev  
Onderwerp: [RDD] Orphaned stack 

When checking the database on Riv 2.19.3, I get a message:Table 
Production_STACK is orphaned... delete Y NIf I delete it, I get it again the 
next time I run the db check after generating a log.About 3 weeks ago someone 
deleted a large number of audio cuts and instead of re-importing them, I 
restored the server from the backup, only to find that the database was not as 
up to date as it should have been. I fixed everything I found but have not 
fixed this. Over the last 3 weeks, only twice on the weekends has a log been 
skipped - once it jumped over Saturday and this time it jumped past Sunday. I 
assume there is a connection. How can I fix this?Tom Van GorkomRadio Esperanza 
Engineering, KRIO AM/FM, KOIR FMOffice: 956-380-8150   Cell: 865-803-7427Rio 
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[RDD] Rdmarkerset

[Rick]

RD 2.15.1When I run rdmarkerset what is determing the length between segue 
start and segue end? Also when RDAirplay runs after markerset segue is not 
executed. What could be the cause of this? Regards from the Netherlands, 
RickVerzonden vanaf mijn Samsung-apparaat

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Van: Fred Gleason  
Datum: 08-03-2019  17:29  (GMT+01:00) 
Aan: rivendell-dev  
Onderwerp: Re: [RDD] Generate HTTP Get 

On Fri, 2019-03-08 at 09:20 -0700, Patrick wrote:> How about something similar 
to pypad_udp that does http?Makes sense to me.PyPAD of course is Rivendell 3.x 
tech. For Rivendell 2.x, you'll needan 
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[RDD] RDMarkerset duration sequa

[Rick]

So when a cut is trimmed at -20dbfs, and seque starts at -11dbfs, (both 
by rdmarkerset) which parameter controls the length of the duration?


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[RDD] rdcatch update not executed

[Rick]

situation : RDServer attached to multiple nodes / formats, logs created 
on RDServer


Debian 8 , updated upgraded, Rivendell 2.15.1 : the newest record 
creating a new log added on RDServer in RDCatch is not executed. I 
restarted RDCatch several times, am creating logs manually with 
RDLogmanager temporarily,


Anyone had this and how did you solve it?

Tnxs in advance...
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[RDD] clocks

[Rick]

Today I am working on some clocks, we have about 100-150 of them.

I have some remarks about the clock data entry system.

- When a system has an EDIT buton it shouldn't also have a rename button
- When I EDIT a clock and press "save as", it shouldn't say "that clock 
already exists" but ASK for a new number, what's this?
- When I save a clock on a NEW number on a name that already exists it 
shouldn't say anything but just add the clock, but anyhow when the 
system responds "that clock already exists" it should point out much 
more clearly wether it's the NAME or the NUMBER that exists and then ASK 
for a new one





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Re: [RDD] Rivendell-dev Digest, Vol 65, Issue 16

[Rick]

I sincerely hope you're fast at the keybord. We run multiple streams in a live 
environment on 1 rdserver. This doesn't seam an acceptable option to me. Better 
sequence : create new load swap old/new delete  old


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   1. Re: Backup/Restoring the DB via command line [WAS: Moving RD
  to another system] (Fred Gleason)


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Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 11:25:46 -0400
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To: rivendell-dev 
Subject: Re: [RDD] Backup/Restoring the DB via command line [WAS:
Moving RD   to another system]
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On Sep 27, 2018, at 09:25, Lorne Tyndale  wrote:

> As far as I understand the Restore in rdadmin does not do a schema check
> / update, so it will work if you are staying at the same version of
> Rivendell.

Actually, it *does* check the schema after the basic restore is complete, and 
will run an update if required.

That said, one get's much more fine-grained control by using the command-line 
utilities for backup and restore. (In fact, in the upcoming v3.x release, the 
backup and restore buttons have been completely removed from RDAdmin). Here?s 
how:

BACKUP - Just do:

mysqldump -h  -u rduser -p Rivendell > 
my-backup-file.sql

or, if you want to get fancy, you can compress the backup on-the-fly:

mysqldump -h  -u rduser -p Rivendell | gzip > 
my-backup-file.sql.gz


RESTORE - Do:

echo drop\ database\ Rivendell\; | mysql -h  -u 
rduser -p

echo create\ database\ Rivendell\; | mysql -h  -u 
rduser -p

cat my-backup-file.sql | mysql -h  -u rduser -p 
Rivendell

That first command *completely deletes* the previously existing Rivendell DB, 
so be careful! What?s happening here is that:

1) We delete the existing DB

2) Create a new, empty DB

3) Write our backup into the new, empty DB

If you have a compressed backup, you?d replace the third line above with this:

gzip -cd my-backup-file.sql.gz | mysql  -u rduser -p 
Rivendell

First thing after the restore completes, run rdadmin to check (and if necessary 
update) the schema. You?re done!

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[RDD] question on relationship /var/snd and database

[Rick]

I have an existing RD install on which I would like to replace /var/snd 
by a different from another server. That means I would have to import 
cards and cuts also from that install. Any other tables that need to be 
replaced?

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Re: [RDD] Cron.daily to delete all /tmp/rivendell* files over 8 hours old...

[Rick Thomas]

Thanks, Fred!

Do you know of anything that might create files with names that match 
/tmp/rivendell* ?

If not, I’ll remove the line and see what comes of it.

Rick


On Jun 26, 2018, at 5:10 AM, Fred Gleason  wrote:

> On Jun 25, 2018, at 05:39, Rick Thomas  wrote:
> 
>>> Subject: Anacron job 'cron.daily' on auto-mc 
>>> Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2018 03:51:04 -0700 (PDT) 
>>> 
>>> /etc/cron.daily/tmpwatch:
>>> error: cannot resolve /tmp/rivendell*: No such file or directory
>> 
>> There do not seem to be any directories with those names.
>> 
>> It seems to come from a line in /etc/cron.daily/tmpwatch:
>> 
>>> /usr/sbin/tmpwatch “$flags" 8h /tmp/rivendell*
>> 
>> 
>> Does anybody know why it’s there?
> 
> It’s not part of a standard Broadcast Appliance installation.
> 
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Re: [RDD] Cron.daily to delete all /tmp/rivendell* files over 8 hours old...

[Rick Thomas]

CentOS 6.9 from the Rivendell Broadcast Appliance iso installed back in March 
2014 or so.

If that helps to nail it down…
Rick

On Jun 25, 2018, at 3:44 AM, Cowboy  wrote:

> On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 02:39:27 -0700
> Rick Thomas  wrote:
> 
>> It seems to come from a line in /etc/cron.daily/tmpwatch:
>> 
>>> /usr/sbin/tmpwatch “$flags" 8h /tmp/rivendell*  
>> 
>> 
>> Does anybody know why it’s there?
> 
> I'm not finding that line in a very standard installation ?
> 
> What OS ?
> 
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[RDD] Cron.daily to delete all /tmp/rivendell* files over 8 hours old...

[Rick Thomas]

Ever since July 1, 2017 we’ve been getting daily mail in the root mailbox 
saying:

> Subject: Anacron job 'cron.daily' on auto-mc 
> Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2018 03:51:04 -0700 (PDT) 
> 
> /etc/cron.daily/tmpwatch:
> error: cannot resolve /tmp/rivendell*: No such file or directory

There do not seem to be any directories with those names.

It seems to come from a line in /etc/cron.daily/tmpwatch:

> /usr/sbin/tmpwatch “$flags" 8h /tmp/rivendell*


Does anybody know why it’s there?

Thanks!
Rick
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Re: [RDD] mp3's that won't import

[Rick Parsons]

This may help - a dump of the tags:

brecon:downloads rick$ metaguru 03*.mp3
Processing 03 Steven Allergies PSA.mp3
MPEG (MP3) file start
ID3v2.3 tag
TIT2 {03 Steven Allergies PSA}
ID3v1 tag
Track  : {03 Steven Allergies PSA}
Artist : {}
Album  : {}
Year   : {}
Comment: {}
Genre  : 255
Statistics
Data frames: 1185
Running time: 0m 30.810s
Constant bitrate: 256kbps
File length: 992810bytes
MPEG (MP3) file end
brecon:downloads rick$ metaguru 06*.mp3
Processing 06.1 M-Seniors_WYHH.mp3
MPEG (MP3) file start
ID3v2.3 tag
TIT2 {06.1 M-Seniors_WYHH}
ID3v1 tag
Track  : {06.1 M-Seniors_WYHH}
Artist : {}
Album  : {}
Year   : {}
Comment: {}
Genre  : 255
Statistics
Data frames: 1401
Running time: 0m 36.426s
Constant bitrate: 320kbps
File length: 1466140bytes
MPEG (MP3) file end
brecon:downloads rick$ metaguru 10*.mp3
Processing 10 EP Breakway #2-Get Your Daily Intake of God's Word-Take Two.mp3
MPEG (MP3) file start
ID3v2.3 tag
TIT2 {10 EP Breakway #2-Get Your Daily Intake of God's Word-Take Two}
ID3v1 tag
Track  : {10 EP Breakway #2-Get Your Dai}
Artist : {}
Album  : {}
Year   : {}
Comment: {}
Genre  : 255
Statistics
Data frames: 1190
Running time: 0m 30.940s
Constant bitrate: 256kbps
File length: 997067bytes
MPEG (MP3) file end


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> 
> 
> 
> Sure here you go. 
> 
> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 1:37 AM Robert Jeffares  <mailto:jeffares.rob...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Seth can you dropbox me one of the mp3's or give me access to a location 
> I can ssh into and download them?
> 
> I have encountered problems with mp3 tage because there is no real 
> standard, there a just a lot of different tags.
> 
> You have ne curious.
> 
> 
> regards
> 
> Robert
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
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> <03 Steven Allergies PSA.mp3><06.1 M-Seniors_WYHH.mp3><10 EP Breakway #2-Get 
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Re: [RDD] Noob - Broadcast Appliance CD

[Rick Parsons]

> DO NOT USE the old “Rivendell Appliance DVD” for installs. It’s broken on 
> modern hardware. 
>
>For an up-to-date procedure that works on current hardware, see:
>
>   
> http://static.paravelsystems.com/rivendell-install/rivendell-install-rhel7.html

OK, Thanks - I will give that a go after the weekend. It would probably good to 
remove reference to the DVD appliance if it doesn’t work anymore.


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[RDD] Noob - Broadcast Appliance CD

[Rick Parsons]

Hi - I have managed to install one system with no problem. The second one has 
no CD/DVD reader so I have created a Flash-drive with the contents of the ISO 
and booted from that - which goes ok except that it seems to just install 
CentOS - there is no menu at the start to select what type of Rivendell system 
and at the end there appears to be no customisation. Do I need to do something 
additional to get the boot to see isolinux/isolinux.cfg which is where this 
seems to be defined? Actually I see that this file keeps referring to carom: - 
does this need to be changed to something else?

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Re: [RDD] /tmp files not getting deleted with 2.15.3...

[Rick Thomas]

Thanks, Fred!

Any idea when this will get pushed out to the users?

Enjoy!
Rick Thomas
Volunteer Sysadmin
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On Apr 11, 2017, at 6:23 AM, Fred Gleason <fr...@paravelsystems.com> wrote:

> On Apr 9, 2017, at 13:23, Kit Raymond Haskins <k...@ka0wuc.org> wrote:
> 
>> I've noticed the /tmp directory is still populated with the files after the 
>> task is completed.  I did this with the rdimport approach as I populated the 
>> library from files from other Rivendell installs I have, and not with a CD 
>> via the rip route ...
>> 
>> I hope this helps provide more information for those troubleshooting this 
>> undocumented "feature"  :)
> 
> Thank you.  Fixed in Git ‘stable’.
> 
> Cheers!
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Re: [RDD] /tmp files not getting deleted with 2.15.3...

[Rick Thomas]

Me too.

Does anybody know if it’s OK to put /tmp on the tmpfs filesystem, or is there 
some reason why Rivendell needs to retain files in /tmp across a reboot.

All “tmpfs” filesystems get reinitialized on reboot.

Rick Thomas
Volunteer Sysadmin
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On Apr 7, 2017, at 4:59 AM, Will Mashione <w...@wlki.com> wrote:

> I am having the same issue as well. 
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Re: [RDD] Please fix this bug...

[Rick Thomas]

Thanks, Lorne and Steve.  I’ll keep your advice in mind the next time we 
re-organize our studio network.  This re-org may actually happen sometime in 
the next couple of years as we are planning a move to new quarters.  So it’s 
actually a good thing you pointed that out now.

Enjoy!
Rick

On May 16, 2017, at 5:59 PM, Lorne Tyndale <ltynd...@tyndaleweb.com> wrote:

> Rick,
> 
> I'm a little surprised here - I don't know why you would put a playback
> machine on a network connection that has direct access to the internet. 
> For best security practices it should be on a private network without
> internet access.
> 
> Even though Linux is much more secure then other OSes, what you've
> described is just asking for trouble.
> 
> Lorne Tyndale

On May 16, 2017, at 5:44 PM, Steve Varholy <st...@wxryfm.org> wrote:

> Query me this: why is your playback machine potentially at risk? Wouldnt it 
> be better to have it not exposed directly to the Internet?
> 
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Re: [RDD] Please fix this bug...

[Rick Thomas]

That’s essentially option 2 by another name.  It has the same problems.  If 
doing it breaks something in Rivendell, we’re off the air.

Perhaps one of the support folks can tell us which of the 4 update packages 
from the Paravel repo it’s safe to uncheck?

Thanks!
Rick

> On May 16, 2017, at 3:11 PM, Steve Varholy <st...@wxryfm.org> wrote:
> 
> IIRC you can choose not to apply certain updates by unchecking them in the 
> Software Update dialog window.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 16, 2017, at 6:07 PM, Rick Thomas <r...@kptz.org> wrote:
>> 
>> We are using the CentOS-6 that is part of the Rivendell Broadcast Appliance 
>> system from Paravel Systems.  We have a paid-up support contract.  It’s 
>> really great, and we love it a lot!  Thanks for all the wonderful features!
>> 
>> Now the problem:
>> 
>> The Rivendell 2.15.3-1 update appears along with more than 300 other updates 
>> from CentOS when we run “yum check-update”.  Some of those CentOS updates 
>> are important security fixes.  So far as I know, there are no security 
>> issues with the Rivendell 2.15.3-1 package.  
>> 
>> However, if we hold off installing the Rivendell 2.15.3-1 update because we 
>> don’t want to deal with the bug in the attached mail from Fred Gleason, 
>> discovered by Ryan Williams, we are also holding off on installing all the 
>> security (and other) fixes from CentOS.
>> 
>> We have two alternatives, as I see it.
>> 
>> 1) What we’re doing now: hold off on any updates until the attached bug is 
>> fixed by Paravel Systems.
>> 
>> or 
>> 
>> 2) Disable the Paravel Systems repo in the yum configuration files, thereby 
>> preventing the Rivendell 2.15.3-1 update from being applied — along with 
>> everything else from Paravel.  We’ve never done this before (never needed 
>> to!) and we don’t know what it might break if we try it.  If it breaks 
>> something in the Rivendell system, that will take us off the air, which we 
>> don’t want to do.
>> 
>> So…
>> 
>> Please fix the attached bug!
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> Rick Thomas
>> SysAdmin, KPTZ 91.9 FM, Port Townsend, WA
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 16, 2017, at 1:26 PM, Scott Spillers <sco...@paravelsystems.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Rick,
>>> We do not have any influence over development of the CentOS Linux 
>>> distribution, only the Rivendell code.  What version of CentOS are you 
>>> using?  CentOS 5 has reached end of life and is no longer updated.  You may 
>>> want to consider updating to CentOS 7 if your version of the distro is no 
>>> longer supported.
>>> 
>>> Scott Spillers
>>> sco...@paravelsystems.com
>>> 
>>> On May 16, 2017 12:10 PM, "Rick Thomas" <r...@kptz.org> wrote:
>>> Dear Rivendell developers,
>>> 
>>> We’ve been holding off installing the Rivendell2.15.3-1 update, hoping to 
>>> see a fix for this bug.
>>> 
>>> But with all the activity over the NSA zero-day exploits released a few 
>>> months ago, it’s becoming imperative that we get the security updates from 
>>> CentOS that this is blocking.
>>> 
>>> Please bump up the priority on this one…
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Rick Thomas,
>>> SysAdmin KPTZ, 91.9 FM Port Townsend, WA
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> -- Forwarded message -
>>>> From: Fred Gleason <fr...@paravelsystems.com>
>>>> Date: Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 8:05 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [RDD] Rivendell v2.15.3
>>>> To: User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System 
>>>> <rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org>
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 28, 2017, at 10:57, Ryan Williams <rya...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I'm having an regression with the most recent release. If I open 
>>>>> RDLogEdit and try to add to a log's description it does not save. We use 
>>>>> the field field to add "READY" to the end of the description when the log 
>>>>> is cleared for air, so this one is going to sting a lot.
>>>> Partially confirmed here.  If you use the ‘Save’ button, the updated 
>>>> Description is indeed lost.  However, clicking ‘OK’ (without clicking 
>>>> ‘Save’ first) appears to work normally.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers!
>>>> 
>>>> |--|
>>>> | Freder

Re: [RDD] Please fix this bug...

[Rick Thomas]

We are using the CentOS-6 that is part of the Rivendell Broadcast Appliance 
system from Paravel Systems.  We have a paid-up support contract.  It’s really 
great, and we love it a lot!  Thanks for all the wonderful features!

Now the problem:

The Rivendell 2.15.3-1 update appears along with more than 300 other updates 
from Centos when we run “yum check-update”.  Some of those CentOS updates are 
important security fixes.  So far as I know, there are no security issues with 
the Rivendell 2.15.3-1 package.  

However, if we hold off installing the Rivendell 2.15.3-1 update because we 
don’t want to deal with the bug in the attached mail from Fred Gleason, 
discovered by Ryan Williams, we are also holding off on installing all the 
security (and other) fixes from CentOS.

We have two alternatives, as I see it.

1) What we’re doing now: hold off on any updates until the attached bug is 
fixed by Paravel Systems.

or 

2) Disable the Paravel Systems repo in the yum configuration files, thereby 
preventing the Rivendell 2.15.3-1 update from being applied — along with 
everything else from Paravel.  We’ve never done this before (never needed to!) 
and we don’t know what it might break if we try it.  If it breaks something in 
the Rivendell system, that will take us off the air, which we don’t want to do.

So…

Please fix the attached bug!

Thanks!
Rick Thomas
SysAdmin, KPTZ 91.9 FM, Port Townsend, WA


On May 16, 2017, at 1:26 PM, Scott Spillers <sco...@paravelsystems.com> wrote:

> Rick,
> We do not have any influence over development of the CentOS Linux 
> distribution, only the Rivendell code.  What version of CentOS are you using? 
>  CentOS 5 has reached end of life and is no longer updated.  You may want to 
> consider updating to CentOS 7 if your version of the distro is no longer 
> supported.
> 
> Scott Spillers
> sco...@paravelsystems.com
> 
> On May 16, 2017 12:10 PM, "Rick Thomas" <r...@kptz.org> wrote:
> Dear Rivendell developers,
> 
> We’ve been holding off installing the Rivendell2.15.3-1 update, hoping to see 
> a fix for this bug.
> 
> But with all the activity over the NSA zero-day exploits released a few 
> months ago, it’s becoming imperative that we get the security updates from 
> CentOS that this is blocking.
> 
> Please bump up the priority on this one…
> 
> Thanks,
> Rick Thomas,
> SysAdmin KPTZ, 91.9 FM Port Townsend, WA
> 
> 
> > -- Forwarded message -
> > From: Fred Gleason <fr...@paravelsystems.com>
> > Date: Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 8:05 AM
> > Subject: Re: [RDD] Rivendell v2.15.3
> > To: User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System 
> > <rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org>
> >
> > On Mar 28, 2017, at 10:57, Ryan Williams <rya...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I'm having an regression with the most recent release. If I open RDLogEdit 
> >> and try to add to a log's description it does not save. We use the field 
> >> field to add "READY" to the end of the description when the log is cleared 
> >> for air, so this one is going to sting a lot.
> > Partially confirmed here.  If you use the ‘Save’ button, the updated 
> > Description is indeed lost.  However, clicking ‘OK’ (without clicking 
> > ‘Save’ first) appears to work normally.
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
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Re: [RDD] Centos 6 ALSA Updates

[Rick Thomas]

We’re holding off on doing this update until we know it’s not going to take us 
off the air.

Is this the recommended fix?

Are there any plans to incorporate this fix (or some other) into a Rivendell 
update, so we can do the update without having to manually edit rc.local?

Thanks
Rick Thomas
IT geek
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On Jun 2, 2016, at 9:19 PM, Robert Jeffares <jeffares.rob...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I put  'alsactl restore' in rc.local. QED
> 
> now to run around the other locations and do the same.
> 
> R
> 
> On 02/06/16 23:54, Fred Gleason wrote:
>> On Jun 1, 2016, at 22:13, Robert Jeffares <jeffares.rob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Not sure if this is Alsa Centos or Rivendell.
>> 
>> ALSA, completely.  Rivendell doesn’t touch this.
>> 
>> Thanks for the heads-up.
>> 
>> Cheers!
>> 
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Re: [RDD] Where to get Audacity (autio file editor) that will happily co-exist on Rivendell Broadcast Appliance

[Rick Thomas]

"yum install audacity" worked!

Who'd a thunk it!

Thanks!
Rick

On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 8:26 AM, Gregory Avedissian <avedis...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have audacity installed on the Centos 6 Broacast Appliance. This was a
> test installation I did a year ago, in virtualbox. According to history, it
> looks like I just ran 'yum install audacity'.
>
> 'yum info audacity' shows:
>
> Installed Packages
> Name: audacity
> Arch: x86_64
> Version : 2.0.2
> Release : 2.el6
> Size: 16 M
> Repo: installed
> From repo   : Paravel-Broadcast
> Summary : Free, Cross-Platform Digital Audio Editor
> URL : http://audacity.sourceforge.net/
> License : GPL
> Description :
>
> Available Packages
> Name: audacity
> Arch: i686
> Version : 2.0.2
> Release : 2.el6
> Size: 3.7 M
> Repo: Paravel-Broadcast
> Summary : Free, Cross-Platform Digital Audio Editor
> URL : http://audacity.sourceforge.net/
> License : GPL
> Description :
>
>
> HTH,
> Greg Avedissian
>
>
>
>
> On 03/05/2016 08:34 PM, Rick Thomas wrote:
>>
>> I have installed the Rivendell "Broadcast Appliance" DVD.  I'd like to be
>> able to edit audio files on the same machine using Audacity.
>>
>> Does anyone here know if there is a rpm or CentOS-6 compatible repository
>> from which I can install Audacity?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Rick
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[RDD] Where to get Audacity (autio file editor) that will happily co-exist on Rivendell Broadcast Appliance

[Rick Thomas]

I have installed the Rivendell "Broadcast Appliance" DVD.  I'd like to be able 
to edit audio files on the same machine using Audacity.

Does anyone here know if there is a rpm or CentOS-6 compatible repository from 
which I can install Audacity?

Thanks!
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Re: [RDD] Rivendell broadcast appliance installer 2.6.5.1 seems to be allergic to 3TB disk drives???

[Rick Thomas]

Thank you Christian, for the detailed instructions.

I did get it working a slightly different way, but your instructions were very 
helpful even if I didn’t apply them word-for-word.

Here’s what I did:

I have a chassis with eight slots for 5400RPM A/V grade SATA drives for 
/var/snd, and one slot for a 140GB 10K RPM SATA system-residency drive.

I did a plain-vanilla “standalone appliance” install putting root, swap and 
/home on the the 10K drive and /var/snd on a 2TB data drive I had lying around. 
 (For some reason I had to have a second 2TB drive plugged in to keep it from 
complaining about “not enough space”, but it never actually used the second 
drive — so go figure!)

After the installation finished and it booted into the installed system, I 
removed from /etc/fstab the line for /var/snd and removed the 2TB drives, 
replacing them with four 3TB drives, and rebooted.  Then I configured the 3TB 
drives as a RAID5 array of 9TB usable space using the mdadm command. I used the 
whole disk for each RAID member — no partitioning needed on the 3TB drives at 
all.  Then I configured the whole raid array (/dev/md127) as the single 
physical volume (PV) in a volume group (VG) for the LVM2 logical volume 
manager.  Again, no need to partition any device.  I then divvied up the space 
in the VG as several logical volumes, one of which I used when I replaced the 
line for /var/snd in /etc/fstab.


Thanks to all who chimed in and helped!

Enjoy!
Rick

On Oct 14, 2015, at 7:33 AM, Christian Pointner <equi...@helsinki.at> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Am 14.10.2015 um 12:36 schrieb Rick Thomas:
>> Thanks, Christian…
>> 
>> Your reply is very helpful!
>> 
> glad to hear.
> 
>> Is it possible to run parted (or anything else capable of creating a GPT 
>> partition table) while in the installer?  In Debian I know that hiting 
>> -F2 gets me a text shell console.  But I’m new to CentOS and the 
>> Anaconda installer — does it have a similar feature?
>> 
> Sorry i don't really know the installer because i never used it.
> 
>> Alternatively, I guess I could do the installation with the 3TB disks but 
>> using only 2T on each, then after the installation is over and it’s booted 
>> into the installed system, I can manually re-partition the disks using 
>> parted and a GPT table.
>> 
>> Do you think that would work?  Can you think of any “gotchas” I’m likely to 
>> hit?
>> 
> If you use the disks only for /var/snd data store this will definitely
> work. But in that case i would leave the drives untouched by the
> installer and create the raid later.
> In case you also want other partitions for example of the system to
> reside on the same drives this will make problems because you can either
> use gpt or dos partition tables per drive but not both at the same time.
> It still can work though... here would be the steps to do this:
> 
> - create a DOS partition table on both disks and install the system on
>   the RAID created by the installer - leave the vast majority of the
>   disk unpartioned -> ther is no point in creating a partition which
>   you will through away later
> - log into the new system and use the following command to remove on
>   of the drives from the raid:
> 
># mdadm /dev/md0 --fail /dev/sda1
># mdadm /dev/md0 --remove /dev/sda1
> 
> - use parted to create a gpt on /dev/sda and create 1 small (~32MB)
>   partion and set the flag bios_grub on it. Create another partition
>   for the system and one for /var/snd and set the raid flag on both of
>   them. The system partition must have the same size of the system
>   partition on the other drive which is still use - you can check this
>   with: # parted /dev/sdb -- unit s print
> 
>   # parted /dev/sda
>> mklabel gpt
>> mkpart
>> name = <doesn't mather>
>> fstype = <doesn't mather>
>> start = 2048s (should be the default)
>> end = +32M
>> set 1 bios_grub on
>> mkpart
>> name = <doesn't mather>
>> fstype = <doesn't mather>
>> start = use default aka just hit enter
>> end = +
>> set 2 raid on
>> mkpart
>> name = <doesn't mather>
>> fstype = <doesn't mather>
>> start = use default aka just hit enter
>> end = -1
>> set 3 raid on
>> quit
> 
> -  now you need to re-add the new system partition to the system raid
> 
># mdadam /dev/md0 --add /dev/sda2
> 
> -  create the raid for /var/snd
> 
># mdadm --create /dev/md1 --level=1 --raid-devices=2 /dev/sda3
> 
> -  wait for the system raid to resync:
> 
># while sleep 1; do clear; cat /proc/mdstat; done
> 
> - remove the other system disk from the raid:
> 
># mdadm /dev/md0 --fail /dev/sdb1
>

Re: [RDD] Rivendell on CentOS 7

[Rick Thomas]

I don’t know if it’s available on CentOS, but the “mate”  (pronounced “mahtay” 
as in “yerba mate”) desktop, which is available in Debian, is a fork of GNOME 
that attempts to reproduce the GNOME 2 user interface and still be compatible 
with newer systemd based init systems.  I use it on several systems as my first 
choice GUI.

Rick

On Oct 14, 2015, at 2:37 PM, Frederick Gleason <fr...@paravelsystems.com> wrote:

> On Oct 14, 2015, at 16:37 18, Rob Landry <41001...@interpring.com> wrote:
> 
>> I find mention of a beta Appliance on Centos 7, but no mention of Rivendell 
>> 3.0. I fear I've missed a post.
> 
> No Rivendell 3 at the moment.  There is a (presently somewhat stalled) BA3, 
> for which I am currently evaluating alternative desktops (as I’ve come to the 
> conclusion that GNOME 3 is a complete and utter basket case).  I’ve been 
> using it for a couple of months now as my default environment and it 
> *doesn’t* get any better.  Quite the opposite actually.
> 
> Stay tuned…
> 
> Cheers!

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Re: [RDD] Rivendell on CentOS 7

[Rick Thomas]

Ahhh… Sorry!  I misinterpreted the “3” in 

> Broadcast Appliance 3 (based on CentOS 7) plays nice with UEFI and is 
> currently in final beta testing.  If you'd like to try it, it's available at:
> 
> http://www.paravelsystems.com/appliance/broadcast_appliance-DVD-3.7.0.BETA02-x86_64.iso


Glad to hear you are working on a CentOS-7 version.  Please keep us informed of 
your progress.

Sorry for the noise!
Rick


On Oct 14, 2015, at 2:37 PM, Frederick Gleason <fr...@paravelsystems.com> wrote:

> On Oct 14, 2015, at 16:37 18, Rob Landry <41001...@interpring.com> wrote:
> 
>> I find mention of a beta Appliance on Centos 7, but no mention of Rivendell 
>> 3.0. I fear I've missed a post.
> 
> No Rivendell 3 at the moment.  There is a (presently somewhat stalled) BA3, 
> for which I am currently evaluating alternative desktops (as I’ve come to the 
> conclusion that GNOME 3 is a complete and utter basket case).  I’ve been 
> using it for a couple of months now as my default environment and it 
> *doesn’t* get any better.  Quite the opposite actually.
> 
> Stay tuned…

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Re: [RDD] Rivendell on CentOS 7

[Rick Thomas]

Rob,

Search in the RDD list for the subject “Rivendell on CentOS 7 [WAS: Rivendell 
on Windows?]”

Or anything recent from Fred Gleason.

Rick

On Oct 14, 2015, at 4:54 AM, Rob Landry <41001...@interpring.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> On Tue, 13 Oct 2015, Rick Thomas wrote:
> 
>> PS: Tomorrow I’m going to try the CentOS-7 based Rivendell 3 beta that Fred 
>> mentioned in another posting to this list.  I’ll report back when I have 
>> some results.
> 
> Is there a Rivendell 3.0 in the works? I must have missed that post.
> 
> 
> Rob

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Re: [RDD] Rivendell broadcast appliance installer 2.6.5.1 seems to be allergic to 3TB disk drives???

[Rick Thomas]

Thanks, Christian…

Your reply is very helpful!

Is it possible to run parted (or anything else capable of creating a GPT 
partition table) while in the installer?  In Debian I know that hiting -F2 
gets me a text shell console.  But I’m new to CentOS and the Anaconda installer 
— does it have a similar feature?

Alternatively, I guess I could do the installation with the 3TB disks but using 
only 2T on each, then after the installation is over and it’s booted into the 
installed system, I can manually re-partition the disks using parted and a GPT 
table.

Do you think that would work?  Can you think of any “gotchas” I’m likely to hit?

Thanks!
Rick

On Oct 14, 2015, at 1:24 AM, Christian Pointner <equi...@helsinki.at> wrote:

> Hi again,
> 
> Sorry my answer has some errors - i really should have checked before
> hitting send...
> 
> Am 14.10.2015 um 10:14 schrieb Christian Pointner:
>> Am 14.10.2015 um 08:17 schrieb Rick Thomas:
>>> 
>>> I’m trying to install the Rivendell broadcast appliance on a machine with a 
>>> set of 3TB disks that I plan to use as a RAID set for /var/snd.
>>> 
>>> But whenever I tell the installer to use one of the 3TB disks as a “Raid 
>>> Partition”, it creates a 2TB partition and 1TB of free space.  The free 
>>> space can’t be used for anything — if I try to create a partition with it, 
>>> I get error messages about “max address”.
>>> 
>>> Anybody ever seen this?  If you have, how did you work around it?
>>> 
>> Sorry no easy solution but an very likely explanation why the installer
>> does this:  Dos Partition labels have a limit of 2TB. For drives bigger
>> than that you would need to create a GPT. Manually this can be done
>> using parted [1].
> 
> The article behind the link is quite old and says that on Debian/Ubuntu
> you need to rebuild your kernel - forget that. Debian/Ubuntu supports
> GPT since several releases.
> 
>> Once the partitions are created you can mark the partitions for RAID
>> using the following command:
>> 
>> sudo parted /dev/sda -- set raid 1 on
>> sudo parted /dev/sdb -- set raid 1 on
> 
> This is also wrong. The correct command would be:
> 
> sudo parted /dev/sda -- set 1 raid on
> sudo parted /dev/sdb -- set 1 raid on
> 
> the '1' means the partition number if you have more than one partition
> this is likely a higher number...
> You can see which partitions exist on your drive using the following
> command:
> 
> sudo parted /dev/sda print
> 
> mfg
> christian
> 
> [1]
> http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/fdisk-unable-to-create-partition-greater-2tb.html

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Re: [RDD] Rivendell v2.11.0

[Rick Thomas]

Thanks! Fred,

This sounds really exciting (and some of the glimpses of "future history"
sound even more exciting!

When can we expect to see this on the software mirrors?  I'd like to know
when it will be available so I can schedule the database upgrade to occur
at a time that's convenient for our DJs.

Enjoy!
Rick

On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Frederick Gleason <fr...@paravelsystems.com
> wrote:

> On Sep 19, 2015, at 13:08 41, Lorne Tyndale <ltynd...@tyndaleweb.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Forgive me, I admit that I have not read all the changelog entries, but
> > did the patch that speeds up log generation within rdlogmanager end up
> > in this release?
>
> It has been merged to master, but is not included in this release.  The
> reasons are “complicated” — mostly having to do with a major new feature
> (block-based time scaling) that didn’t make it into v2.11.0 due to ongoing
> teething troubles.  Thus, ‘master’ branch was actually quite a bit *ahead*
> of v2.11.0 at point of release — a rather unusual situation for the
> Rivendell Project.  I made the decision to do that so as to get a new
> release with other significant new functionality out there without being
> further delayed by the ongoing testing of the block timescale features.
> Unfortunately, a side effect of that was that  part of the ‘future history’
> that got left out of v2.11.0 includes Alban’s very effective log generation
> speedup optimization.  This will appear in due course when the block
> timescaling features are ready for Prime Time.  Lord willing, not too much
> longer…
>
> Cheers!
>
>
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> |   |  Paravel Systems |
> |--|
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> | had to be discovered.  I can remember the exact instant when I   |
> | realized that a large part of my life from then on was going to be   |
> | spent in finding mistakes in my own programs.|
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Re: [RDD] Looking for Looping Software to record Broadcast

[Rick]

This is not RDD-specific or anything.

It happened to us (HD died from the 24x7 recording activity).

We were using a WinXP system running BUTT to feed Shoutcast.

BUTT had a record option, but it was clunky, so my tech added a $99 utility for 
recording (sorry, I don't remember the product).  Hourly recordings going to a 
data drive (on the XP box) that was then shared on the LAN.

The hourly recording activity ran the data drive so hard (constantly writing 
every few seconds) it finally started corrupting.
This caused BSoDs for the XP box, bringing down the primary function of feeding 
Shoutcast.

I rebuilt that box and said no recording anymore; recording shall not take 
down the stream feed.

We had a manual Tascam recorder workaround for quite awhile, but I wanted to 
figure out a way to do the automated recordings again, and it was an 
opportunity to figure out how to do it with Linux.

I thought about SSDs, but I was reluctant to put one in for constant thrashing, 
and remembered my old DOS days when RAMdisks were used to compensate for slow 
HDs.

I thought PERFECT!  RAM IS designed to be thrashed for the life of the system, 
let's do it that way!

The rest fell into place one the plan was set :)

Cheers,
Rick
KMUZ Engineering




 From: Rob Landry 41001...@interpring.com
To: Rick rj...@yahoo.com 
Cc: Kevin, Natalia, Stacey and Rochelle spar...@gmail.com; 
stationplayl...@yahoogroups.com stationplayl...@yahoogroups.com; 'User 
discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System' 
rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 4:02 AM
Subject: Re: [RDD] Looking for Looping Software to record Broadcast
 






On Sun, 21 Sep 2014, Rick wrote:

 - Everything recorded to ramdisk, then moved to physical HD once hourly
 recording is complete (prevents killing your HD by constantly writing to it
 during recording).

I've never encountered that problem. Where did you learn about it?


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Re: [RDD] Looking for Looping Software to record Broadcast

[Rick]

I second Marc's recommendation.

Rob's method is the easiest without having to learn ALSA or PulseAudio.  Just 
grab the stream.

In fact, I used that method initially (but still added my own RAMdisk piece to 
the equation to extend the life of the HD).

Later, I wanted to record directly via soundcard (initially, on-board 
motherboard soundcard, then a dedicated soundcard).
This gave me more options for lossless, higher-bitrate MP3, etc.


The wget method is quite elegant though, and the MP3 doesn't glitch audibly 
from the process-kill.

Cheers,
Rick
KMUZ Engineering




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To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 4:06 AM
Subject: Re: [RDD] Looking for Looping Software to record Broadcast
 

Hello,

It's also possible to do this with LiquidSoap in the Linux world. We've 
had it configured to log soundcard input and webstream sources in hourly 
chunks at different stations.

On the Windows side of things, I've seen Powerlog, in-house tools, odd 
little £20 tools you've never heard of before and RadioMonitor (who use 
Linux for their logging platform anyway). The catch with some of the 
cheep-n-cheerful tools on Windows is that we've seen support stop on 
them with no notice. Not great when you might have Ofcom chapping on the 
door requesting some audio.

Rob's suggesting reminds me of us doing the same at a student radio 
station years ago. It worked surprisingly well.

Regards,

Marc.

On 22/09/2014 11:53, Rob Landry wrote:


 On Mon, 22 Sep 2014, Kevin, Natalia, Stacey and Rochelle wrote:

 I am looking for a piece of software (if possible) that I can use at our
 school to record the broadcast station 24/7.

 I am just using wget for that. I have a cron job set to run atthe top 
 of each hour; it starts wget to record an mp3 stream from icecast 
 running on the same machine. wget is run as a child process; the 
 parent checks the elapsed time every second and when it gets to 3600 
 (i.e. 1 hour), it kills the child process and terminates. Meanwhile, 
 another cron job will have started to record the next hour.

 The files are saved with names like 3pm.mp3 in folders with names like 
 mon_sep_22_2014; the script looks for any such folder more than 90 
 days old and deletes it.

 I'm doing this for seven stations so far.

 I'm not running Windows, though.


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Re: [RDD] Looking for Looping Software to record Broadcast

[Rick]

Cool Geoff!
You've inspired me to share as well :)


Here's the one I am officially contributing to the open-source community:
(please forgive me, I'm kinda proud of this one - it was a big deal for me - 
lol)


#!/bin/bash
# Author:
#Rick Quendun
#KMUZ Engineering
#rick _at_ kmuz _dot_ org
#
#Script last modified2014-06-06
#
# Hourly script to record 1 hour audio blocks from analog source into default 
audio input.
# Spans 1 minute before (hh:59) and past (hh:01) the hour recorded
# Total recording time = 62 mins (3720 secs)

# RAMDISK notes:
# Requires 1GB ramdisk size to hold 1 hr recording, plus next hour's partial 
before prior is moved.
# Records WAV, 320k MP3, and 128k MP3.  This all fits within 1GB ramdisk.

# PHYSICAL storage notes:
# (1 hr audio file size) x (hours to retain 30-31 days)
# WAV  = 655 MB x 744 = approx. 700 GB
# 320k MP3 = 150 MB x 744 = approx. 150 GB
# 128k MP3 =  60 MB x 744 = approx.  75 GB
# --
# TOTAL STORAGE NEEDED  = approx. 925 GB
#
# (1TB drive = approx. 985 GB usable; perfect capacity for this use.)

# SCHEDULED JOB notes:
# Include crontab info here as a reference
#  # Run the hourlyrecs script hourly starting at hh:59
#  59 * * * * /opt/scripts/hourlyrec-analog.sh


# Start script
# Set current directory to the ramdisk:
cd /media/ramdisk/

# Assumes start time of hh:59
# Start recording in the background (); stop after 3720 secs (62 mins).
arecord -f cd -t wav -d 3720 current.wav 
arecord -f cd -t raw -d 3720 | lame -r --preset insane - current320.mp3 
arecord -f cd -t raw -d 3720 | lame -r --preset 128 - current128.mp3 

# Wait 90 secs into the recording hour to make sure the job has started and 
the file(s) are opened:
sleep 90

# Rename the current files to a name representing the date and time of the 
recording.
# (MMDD-day-HHMMpm):
mv current.wav `date +%Y%m%d-%a-%I%P.wav`
mv current320.mp3 `date +%Y%m%d-%a-%I%P-320.mp3`
mv current128.mp3 `date +%Y%m%d-%a-%I%P-128.mp3`

# Now wait 5 MINUTES before moving the last hour's recordings from ramdisk to 
physical
sleep 5m


#  MAKE SURE THERE IS ENOUGH PHYSICAL STORAGE FOR RETENTION PERIOD!
#  30-31 days retention = 744 x WAVs  _plus_  744 x both MP3s

# MOVE the last hour's recordings (file age older than 4 mins) from ramdisk to 
physical disk
# (this moves the previous hour's recordings, not the files actively being 
recorded)
find /media/ramdisk/*.wav -type f -mmin +4 -exec mv {} /media/hourlyrecs \;
find /media/ramdisk/*.mp3 -type f -mmin +4 -exec mv {} /media/hourlyrecs \;

# DELETE files older than 30 days from physical storage.
#Remember:  For all 3 audio files, 30 days retention requires a 1TB hard 
disk.
#Adjust retention time as necessary.
find /media/hourlyrecs/*.wav -type f -mtime +30 -exec rm {} \;
find /media/hourlyrecs/*.mp3 -type f -mtime +30 -exec rm {} \;

# end


===


I hope this is useful for someone.

It doesn't show some of the other stuff like setting up the RAMdisk, script 
folders, etc.
I can provide that too if you need it.
Cheers,
Rick
KMUZ Engineering




 From: Geoff Barkman countryra...@gmail.com
To: 
Cc: User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System 
rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: [RDD] Looking for Looping Software to record Broadcast
 

I use linux command line recorder called arecord to record audio for a
fixed period and then spit the created file out to a 320k mp3 when
finished. I use crontab to schedule it. It starts at 1 min to the hour
and appends the date / time in the month to the file name.
The 50 second sleep means the actual recording starts 10 seconds
before the top of the hour. That way It overlaps the next hours
recording. I run 2 scripts... one for the even hours and one for the
odd hours.

I hope someone finds this usefull.
Many thanks
Geoff

#!/bin/bash
# Special recording program to record audio for logging purposes and
convert to mp3.

sleep 50

CURRENTevenTIME00=`date +%H_%M`

# arecord records 44.100 cd quality audio for duration 3610 seconds (1
hour 10 seconds)
arecord -d3610 -r44100 -f cd -t wav -c2
/mnt/sdb1/share/wav/$CURRENTevenTIME00.wav

sleep 10

lame -b 320 -m j /mnt/sdb1/share/wav/$CURRENTevenTIME00.wav
/mnt/sdb1/share/mp3/$CURRENTevenTIME00.mp3





On 9/23/14, Rick rj...@yahoo.com wrote:
 This is not RDD-specific or anything.

 It happened to us (HD died from the 24x7 recording activity).

 We were using a WinXP system running BUTT to feed Shoutcast.

 BUTT had a record option, but it was clunky, so my tech added a $99 utility
 for recording (sorry, I don't remember the product).  Hourly recordings
 going to a data drive (on the XP box) that was then shared on the LAN.

 The hourly recording activity ran the data drive so hard (constantly

Re: [RDD] Unable to Start Rivendell Daemons

[Rick]

in mysql (when RD is on another node) do:

GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON *.* TO username@'%' IDENTIFIED BY 'password';

Jim Stewart schreef op 7-9-2014 19:42:


So what happens when you run rdadmin? I would think that if it can't 
make a connection to mySQL that it would run the routine to set up a 
database in the running one (as pointed to in rd.conf - so check on 
this too). In doing so it would ask for the admin password to mySQL so 
to create a new one. rd.conf would also have the credentials that 
Rivendell will use to access the database.



If your mySQL happens to be on another computer, this will complicate 
things because the usual default installations of mySQL often limit 
access to the local machines for security reasons. So you would have 
to further configure mySQL (and any other firewalling software you 
might be running) to allow for this.



Worse case, try accessing mySQL (and any rivendell data base there) 
directly using various mySQL admin tools, and see what might be going 
on. Look for a created Rivendell data base with all the long list of 
security options set. Again rdadmin is suppose to do all this for you 
on its first run, so perhaps something went wrong there (like you 
changed something afterwards).



Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 15:33:45 -0500
From: Larry Ewing la...@radiobygrace.com
To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org
Subject: [RDD] Unable to Start Rivendell Daemons
Message-ID: 001e01cfc0a3$df37c4d0$9da74e70$@com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

mySQL is running and active but Rivendell won't start.


Aug 25 15:07:11 suserivendell rivendell[3192]: ripcd: Couldn't open mySQL
connection!





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Re: [RDD] unable to download cut data, error was invalid url

[Rick]

problem solved, nothing to do with Rivendell , read below for anyone 
that uses FSN feeds


Dear Rick,

I hope all is well. Again my apologies for any problems you had with our 
FSN radio feeds.


I think we solved the FSN Updates automated radio feed problem.

I spoke to In Motion (our web site provider) and was told that they had 
placed some sort of security layer on top of our site to prevent 
automatic systems from picking up the feed.


I told them that these automated systems are exactly the types of 
systems we need to have access to our feeds, so they removed these 
security filters.


I'm hopeful that this will solve the problem. Would you please let me 
know if the problem is solved on your end.


Thanks for your help and patience.

All best,

Rob Flynn


Cowboy schreef op 12-8-2014 13:50:

On Monday 11 August 2014 07:06:33 pm Rick wrote:

same problem here since this weekend, invalid URL, always worked fine,
nothing changed news no longer downloads in RDcatch, pasting the
download in iceweasel downloads the news

  First blush, check DNS.
  Can you ping that URL by it's FQDN ( fully qualified domain name ) ?



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Re: [RDD] unable to download cut data, error was invalid url

[Rick]

network wide reboot did not solve anything , Rdcatch is OFF and is still 
inserting the same news every hour without ability to download any more


Cowboy schreef op 12-8-2014 13:50:

On Monday 11 August 2014 07:06:33 pm Rick wrote:

same problem here since this weekend, invalid URL, always worked fine,
nothing changed news no longer downloads in RDcatch, pasting the
download in iceweasel downloads the news

  First blush, check DNS.
  Can you ping that URL by it's FQDN ( fully qualified domain name ) ?



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Re: [RDD] unable to download cut data, error was invalid url

[Rick]

same problem here since this weekend, invalid URL, always worked fine, 
nothing changed news no longer downloads in RDcatch, pasting the 
download in iceweasel downloads the news


Keith Thelen schreef op 10-8-2014 20:28:

Hello all!

Here’s the situation. Two boxes, both recently installed:

Box #1 (in the air studio): Recent RD Appliance with 2.9.0 (via ‘yum upgrade 
rivendell’)
Box #2 (in the prod room): Fresh Ubuntu trusty install with 2.9.0 (dependencies 
from Tryphon via apt, then 2.9.0 built from source)

The database and sound files live on Box #1, which is happily chugging away - 
it’s running a test log as I write this, in fact. About the only things I 
changed were to allow remote access to MySQL, enabling the NFS server, and 
exporting /var/snd as read-only (as per previous messages I dug out of the 
archives).

Meanwhile, over on Box #2 (an older machine that doesn’t support 64-bit and 
thus can’t run the Appliance), things aren’t going so well. I got my ALSA 
settings in order, mounted /var/snd, edited the lines within the [mySQL] 
context in rd.conf as required, got all the host settings set in RDAdmin, etc. 
But there are issues.

If I open RDAirplay, I can browse carts, load logs, etc. When I try to play a 
cart, the first couple of seconds sound OK - then I hear nothing but static. 
Other than the meters (pegged during static), everything else on the screen 
looks normal.

If I open RDLibrary, I can see all the metadata fine, but clicking the Play 
button for any given cart does nothing. If I try to edit a cart's markers, I 
get this message:


Unable to download peak data, error was: “Invalid URL

Nothing relevant seems to be showing up in the logs. The tests within /rd-bin 
work fine in a web browser.

I have to believe there’s some config detail missing on Box #2, but I don’t 
know what. Any ideas?



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Re: [RDD] RDAirPlay keep alive script

[Rick]

then again many times you will have lost the jack connection permanently 
using this, you should split soundprocessing and RD on different nodes 
connected by Jack to avoid segfault errors


Thomas Churchill schreef op 14-7-2014 0:24:

Just off the top of my head, quick and dirty, you could make a macro to
place into the rotation that could update a text file. Have a cron script
watch that and if the text/time in the file is beyond whatever length you
want, the send the command service rivendell stop followed by service
rivendell start and restart RDAirplay.

There may be something out there for that. I am not having those issues and
haven't looked for such. Using CentOS from the install appliance here and
2.9.0.

Tom Churchill



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[mailto:rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org] On Behalf Of Dan
Gruner
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 5:30 PM
To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org
Subject: [RDD] RDAirPlay keep alive script

Could someone point me in the direction of a script that will monitor
RDAirPlay and restart the application if it quits.  Seems like this random
quitting problem is getting worse and I have not been able to find out the
cause, other than when each new version of Rivendell is released, the
reliability seems to be getting worse!  Very annoying.  Trying to simply
restart RDAirPlay seems to always result in a Multiple Instances Not
Allowed error, which either requires the service to be killed or the
machine to be re-started.  The script will therefore need to sort all this
out prior to attempting to restart RDAirPlay.

Am running Debian Wheezy.

Many thanks for any help

Dan
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Re: [RDD] esi juli@ card

[Rick]

(oops - sent directly to Wayne the first time - sorry Wayne)

Are volume controls for the esi juil@ care inputs/outputs and pro (+4dB) / 
consumer (-10dB) settings useable from ALSA (i.e. alsamixer, amixer, 
etc.)?

In addition to broadcast playout, I'm interested in recording broadcasts 
(most likely on a different box also using the same card).  I typically 
use ALSA's arecord utility.


Kind regards,
Rick QuendunKMUZ Engineering



 From: Wayne Merricks waynemerri...@thevoiceasia.com
To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org 
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 7:14 AM
Subject: Re: [RDD] esi juli@ card
 


Yes works fine, I use the PCI Express version (theres a model or similarly 
named one that is PCI).  Only 2 outs and 2 ins though so its a bit light on 
connectivity.

Remember to reposition the input board so you get balanced audio
  rather than the default unbalanced.

Regards,

Wayne Merricks
The Voice Asia
On 26/06/14 13:46, Matthew Chambers wrote:

Anyone use the esi juli@ sound card with Rivendell? 


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Re: [RDD] esi juli@ card

[Rick]

Thanks Wayne,
I thought ESI's approach on the physical flipping was kind of innovative.  Too 
bad the +4dB/-10dB settings are limited to the choice of physical connectors, 
since it's really just a level/pad selection IMO.  No big deal though I guess 
as long as the volume control is useable within the ranges we may run into.


Very glad to hear about the in/out volume control availability to ALSA.  I've 
recently had good success learning to access most (except volume!) controls of 
the Echo Mia MIDI PCI cards.  Since they have dried up in the distribution 
channels, I've been keeping my eye on the ESI juli@ and am really glad to hear 
someone share their experience with them!

Thank you!
Rick Quendun
KMUZ Engineering




 From: Wayne Merricks waynemerri...@thevoiceasia.com
To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org 
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: [RDD] esi juli@ card
 


You can use alsamixer to control the in/out volume.  The +4 or -10 is a 
physical board setting depending on whether you're using balanced or 
unbalanced.  You literally have to take out two screws from the PCB, pull it 
off, turn it 180 degrees and put it back again to swap between the two.

I use it with JACK here on one machine and as plain ALSA on
  another (Riv uses an MAUDIO Delta 66 for 2 stereo outs then the
  Juli@ for the 3rd stereo out).

The JACK machine records fine via audacity, never really tried it
  to record direct in Riv.

Wayne Merricks
The Voice Asia
On 26/06/14 17:54, Rick wrote:




(oops - sent directly to Wayne the first time - sorry Wayne)


Are volume controls for the esi juil@ care inputs/outputs and pro (+4dB) / 
consumer (-10dB) settings useable from ALSA (i.e. alsamixer, amixer, etc.)?


In addition to broadcast playout, I'm interested in recording broadcasts (most 
likely on a different box also using the same card).  I typically use ALSA's 
arecord utility.



Kind regards,
Rick QuendunKMUZ Engineering 




 From: Wayne Merricks waynemerri...@thevoiceasia.com
To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org 
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 7:14 AM
Subject: Re: [RDD] esi juli@ card
 


Yes works fine, I use the PCI Express version (theres a model or similarly 
named one that is PCI).  Only 2 outs and 2 ins though so its a bit light on 
connectivity.

Remember to reposition the input board so you get
balanced audio rather than the default unbalanced.

Regards,

Wayne Merricks
The Voice Asia
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Anyone use the esi juli@ sound card with Rivendell? 


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[RDD] problems with rdcatch

[Rick]

RDcatch normally plays toth beeps programmed as in the wiki but any 
other macro is NOT executed any more like e.g. this one PX 1 61! , 
the line in RDcatch is yellow as normal, nothing is inserted in RDAiplay 
any more.


This behaviour started after I deleted about 40 instances in RDcatch 
because they are no longer used. I deleted them because RDcatch 
continued to play them although all these events where set to not active !


I did a mysqlrepair on all databases but it made no difference.
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Re: [RDD] question on the lqs script wayne

[Rick]

thanks Wayne, I will use it for audio and video,  the audio part of it 
is testing already thanks to your basic setup !


Wayne Merricks schreef op 6-6-2014 13:23:

Hi,

Liquidsoap handles sources with Audio, Video and Midi.  So when you 
see stuff like source(2,0,0) thats 2 audio channels with 0 video and 0 
midi.


Wayne Merricks
The Voice Asia

On 05/06/14 23:39, Rick wrote:


This is a code snippet from the LQsoap script from Wayne, I am new to 
LQSoap but most of Waynes script looks comprehendable , just what 
does the 2,0,0 stand for in source(2,0,0)


# Function to connect System capture to Liquid Soap
# Handles mono and stereo

def jackConnect()
  system(jack_connect system:capture_1 liquidsoapstereo:in_0)
  system(jack_connect system:capture_2 liquidsoapstereo:in_1)
end

# Get the input from JACK
liveStereo = (input.jack(id=liquidsoapstereo):source(2,0,0))


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[RDD] question on the lqs script wayne

[Rick]

This is a code snippet from the LQsoap script from Wayne, I am new to 
LQSoap but most of Waynes script looks comprehendable , just what does 
the 2,0,0 stand for in source(2,0,0)


# Function to connect System capture to Liquid Soap
# Handles mono and stereo

def jackConnect()
  system(jack_connect system:capture_1 liquidsoapstereo:in_0)
  system(jack_connect system:capture_2 liquidsoapstereo:in_1)
end

# Get the input from JACK
liveStereo = (input.jack(id=liquidsoapstereo):source(2,0,0))


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[RDD] Rivendell manual(s) ?

[Rick]

Hi,
Are there any current Rivendell manual(s) available?
I try to look at manuals to make sure I've done my RTFM effort first.Then I 
check out forums, wikis, etc.


I found links for a Rivendell Operations Guide, but they seem to be for version 
1.3x, and the current version appears to be 2.8x.

Kind regards,
Rick Quendun
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[RDD] jack / liquidsoap

[Rick]

Anybody can tell wether a jack connection with liquidsoap to shoutcast 
will stream the audio without any processing over the soundcard(s) in 
other words is liquidsoap taking the input directly from jack ? Can this 
combination / setup of Jack and Liquidsoap run without any soundcard in 
the node that does soundprocessing and be 100% digital?

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Re: [RDD] New platfom.

[Rick]

in my opinion once the wiki is updated there is no real need for any new 
initiative


Frederick Gleason schreef op 29-4-2014 13:37:

On Apr 29, 2014, at 00:47 33, Andy Sayler a...@wmfo.org wrote:


Although that would require moving to new mailing lists atop Google, etc...

Interesting that you raise this, as I have been mulling over doing precisely 
that.

Any downsides to it?

Cheers!


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Re: [RDD] NEW PLATFORM

[Rick]

I agree Larry, I thought about this forum idea earlier and combine it 
with some kind of appliance in the Dutch language, but you would have to 
be on the highest level for Linux MySQL and RD to do this (which applies 
to at best 2 or 3 here) , I also don't believe it's a good idea to have 
the moderating done by anybody else BUT these 2 or 3 high level guys



WBHM Web Operations schreef op 28-4-2014 15:09:
Personally I think it's a bad idea. There are already 2 ways to 
communicate (irc and this list).  Adding another would just splinter 
the group.


Also, it's a little rude to not participate for years, then come try 
to change things when you decide to return.


Larry



Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone


 Original message 
From: Rual Thompson
Date:04/27/2014 12:52 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org
Subject: [RDD] NEW PLATFORM

Im thinking of starting a new rivendell user forum, this mailing list is
clunky and buggy to say the best, lol, a forum would allow all active 
users in

the platform to get help in a timely manner, provide notifications when
someone replys to a topic, and allow everyone to share a wealth of 
knowledge

without the bugs of not always getting your message through,

thoughts?



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Re: [RDD] NEW PLATFORM

[Rick]

Just interested, besides Frederick, WHO are the development team? I 
follow this list for some time now and use RD since the beginning of 
2013 but I couldn't tell because of this setup with the mailing list and 
IRC (which i do not use)



Cowboy schreef op 28-4-2014 15:31:

On Monday 28 April 2014 09:09:17 am WBHM Web Operations wrote:

There are already 2 ways to communicate (irc and this list).
Adding another would just splinter the group.

  I'm still biting my tong, though I may check a forum
  on very rare occasion.

  Suffice to say that I pretty much already know
  where the development team will be.



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Re: [RDD] OT: darkice and liquidsoap configs

[Rick]

interesting subject #finaly will work on this also next week and try

https://www.google.nl/#q=liquidsoap+site:http:%2F%2Fcaspian.paravelsystems.com%2Fpipermail%2Frivendell-dev%2F 



drew Roberts schreef op 28-4-2014 19:45:

I know some of you folks know more than I do about liquidsoap. Perhaps someone
can help. Anyone know how to match this darkice setup in liquidsoap:

[icecast2-0]
bitrateMode = cbr   # constant bit rate
format  = mp3   # format of the stream: mp3
bitrate = 32   # bitrate of the stream sent to the server
sampleRate  = 22050
channel = 1
server  = localhost
 # host name of the server
port= 8014  # port of the IceCast2 server, usually 8000

all the best,

drew
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Re: [RDD] NEW PLATFORM

[Rick]

The communication vehicle of choice often seems to be a common conundrum.

- As far as I can tell, there is a need for permanent information, like a 
knowlege base, or wiki, etc.  This is extremely useful if it's accurate and 
kept up to date!
- There is also a need for the ephemeral exchange of info, such as the 
questions/answers we see in the listserv method we use now.


I volunteer for a local community radio station  (Chief Operator  head of 
Engineering).
For a communication vehicle of choice, they're all about FB (which I choose not 
to have a presence in).  That covers the ephemeral side, but as far as I can 
tell, it doesn't provide a good solution for permanent information.

I prefer email, and still am thinking about things like a listserv approach or 
wiki, etc.

I thought a forum would be good solution for them too, primarily to solve the 
permanent info repository aspect.
But they seemed uninterested; the forum never seemed to catch on well, and FB 
still seems to be their primary communication choice.


Personally, I like the simplicity and flexibility of the listserv approach 
(individual or digest formats), and really appreciate its no-frills 
cleanliness.  That's probably why I like the wiki-based approach too.  
Craigslist is another good example of clean  no-frills functionality.  These 
tools (for me), allow quick, efficient use, and don't get in my way.

Forums have a clunkiness to them that I can't quite put my finger on.  It seems 
like I have to dig and dig and dig through what often feels like duplicate or 
similar information (often found in different areas) to finally get a complete 
picture.  In my experience, they rarely seem to be structured effectively.

My votes:
- For the permanent respository/knowledgebase, I think a good wiki would be 
great.
- For the ephemeral stuff, the listserv is awesome.  I'm already logging into 
email, and using that to post/communicate is nice instead of having yet another 
thing to authenticate to (reduce your attack surface instead of increasing it).

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Re: [RDD] View Songs with no scheduler code set

[Rick]

tnxs for the mysql Hoggins! not so into this, this indeed would be very nice


Hoggins! schreef op 25-4-2014 22:44:

Hello,

I confirm : that would be very nice.
Currently, I perform this kind of search directly in the database, like
this :

select NUMBER, CART.TITLE, CART.ARTIST from CUTS, CART WHERE
(CUTS.CART_NUMBER = CART.NUMBER AND CART.GROUP_NAME='MUSIC' AND
CART.SCHED_CODES ='') ORDER BY NUMBER DESC;

... and as it is quite impossible to fulfill all of the user's (us !)
needs, I think it would be great if we could compose our SQL query
directly into RDLibrary, so that we can have a very precise and
controlled selection of the library items, and then access them with the
graphical interface of the software.

 Hoggins!


Le 25/04/2014 22:27, Alan Smith a écrit :

While this is fresh on my mind:

There doesn't appear to be a way in RDLibrary to view only songs with
no scheduler code set (Unless I am missing something).

Would be a nice feature to see if someone forgot to set a code on some
of the music.

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Re: [RDD] ssh on appliance v2

[Rick Thomas]

I found by disabling GSSIAuthentication in the sshd.conf file I was
finally able to connect

I don't know if this helps any, but it appears that GSSAuthentication
may not be implemented on the Rivendell Appliance{*}, and causes some
kind of time-out when called.  So disabling it avoids the timeout.
  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_Security_Services_Application_Program_Interface

{*} Or it may be implemented on the Rivendell, but not implemented in
your Putty, causing SSH on the Rivendell to request something from
Putty that Putty does not recognize and allows the request to time
out.

In either case, disabling it on the Rivendell is unlikely to do any
harm that isn't already done by connecting with a client that doesn't
recognize it..

Hope that helps,

Rick

On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Alan Smith alansm...@flinn.com wrote:
 An update again for posterity:

 After much research, fiddling, and trial an error I finally got ssl/ssh vnc
 viewer to connect to x11vnc via ssh on its own.

 Whether right, or wrong (if by doing this I am breaking something, or
 compromising something PLEASE someone chime in), I found by disabling
 GSSIAuthentication in the sshd.conf file I was finally able to connect.

 I have no idea what one has to do with the other, but not only did it allow
 me to finally get in, but it also substantially reduced the delay of the
 password prompt.  Only thing I can figure is the large delay must have
 caused some timeout issue.  Its just a SWAG based on my extremely limited
 knowledge of linux.

 -Alan


 On 4/22/2014 4:03 PM, Alan Smith wrote:

 Thanks Gary, but I am making progress.SLOW progress.  I would love an
 explanation if someone wouldn't mind:

 I got rid of the errors by enabling x11 forwarding in putty.  Okay, sounds
 fair enough, except that the CentOS box I just set up doesn't have x11
 forwarding enabled and I don't get any error messages when I log in.  Also,
 it still hangs for a moment before prompting me for my password.  My other
 box asks instantly.

 The only thing I can figure is the installation of x11vnc on the Rivendell
 v2 appliance must have something to do with it.  I use tiger-vnc on my other
 box because I don't want to connect to a physical display.

 Anyway, I FINALLY have x11vnc working over ssh now using putty and ssl/ssh
 vnc viewer.

 What I can't seem to make work now is using ONLY ssl/ssh vnc viewer.  Also,
 when trying it stalls for almost a minute it seems before prompting for my
 password.

 Baby steps...

 -Alan

 On 4/22/2014 2:17 PM, Gary wrote:

 As an aside, I installed the RDD appliance on VMWare workstation and RDD
 didn't even show up, even though the Centos installed fine.  I am wondering
 what am I missing?  Regarding the ssh, there is a video config setting
 somewhere in the config but not sure of the details sorry.

 On Tuesday, April 22, 2014 2:48 PM, Alan Smith alansm...@flinn.com wrote:

 I am trying to set up ssh on the appliance v2.  When using putty to
 connect it takes a while before my password prompt is displayed. Once I
 am finally logged in, I get the following errors:

 xset:  unable to open display 
 xset:  unable to open display 
 xhost:  unable to open display 

   This is on a fresh virgin install of appliance v2.

 I recently set up a non rivendell box on CentOS 6.4 and got this working
 with very little effort.

 Any ideas?

 Thanks,

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Re: [RDD] Missing Markers Window

[Rick]

I would say the length is coming out of the database but it can't load 
the sound file because of rights (most likely in RDAdmin, I assume you 
checked wether you can see the files in /var/snd in a terminal) , using 
exactly the same system as you are, 3 terminals, seen this when I also 
set up a new workstation but can't remember exactly what it was


Wayne Merricks schreef op 21-4-2014 19:25:

Hi all,

I've kind of lost count of the amount of times I've installed Riv over 
the last two years but this one has got me confused.


I installed my usual v2.5 which I've got in production on at least 6 
or 7 machines now on a Debian 7 box with Gnome Shell.  I then point 
the database and /var/snd to a central server.


Normally this is fine but this time rdlibrary is playing up.  If I 
open up a cart and edit go to edit markers, I can see all the 
information, play/pause/stop etc all work fine however I can't 
actually see the wave form at all.


All I do see is a grey box.  The position markers also say -3:28:36.3 
and the length is -3:28:36.3.  I can click the grey box and I get the 
usual precision + marker for a mouse pointer but nothing actually works.


Screenshot here to paint the picture:

http://thevoiceasia.com/nowave.png

Any ideas would be appreciated,


Wayne
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Re: [RDD] silence at log rotation

[Rick]

the cause of this problem is likely detected :

Recently we set the automatic creating of the log for the next day - 
which is set up in RDCatch - over from a workstation to the server that 
has the sound files and the database on it. Creating of next days log 
used to take about 50 minutes (!)over a gigabit network on a dual core, 
on the server itself this only took a fraction of that time


As the rotating of the log is also done on the DJ station, over the 
network, we suspect this to be the cause of the slow operation and the 
silence. We plan to switch the log by Gerrits bash script on short 
notice on the server itself and suspect this to be solved.


As I see many posts on slow mySQL operation these might be related to 
this silence, but I am just guessing now




Alan Peterson schreef op 13-3-2014 14:16:

This is kinda cheesy, but what about using the Aux Log to fill the time?

Create a short playlist permanently loaded into Aux Log 1 or 2 that kicks off 
every night at 11:59:30 (or so), consisting of these steps:
1) Fade out all Main Log audio now present (PS 0 2000)
2) Sleep for 2 secs (SP 2000)
3) Play Panel Button X with anthem (PP etc)
4) Sleep for duration of audio (SP time)
4) Start Next event on Main Log (PN 1)

At 30 secs before midnight, the Aux Log fades out whatever is airing on the 
Main and starts playing stirring patriotic music. Meanwhile, a Timed Event in 
the Main log leisurely loads the next day's log and waits. Since the load-in is 
being covered by music from the Sound Panel, there is no dead air.

When the music finishes in the Aux log, it is followed by the RML command to 
start the newly-loaded Main log.

Yes, it means there is a rollover on midnight where an event will have to wait 
until completion of the Panel playback, and the night-owl format freaks 
listening at that hour (they know who they are) will complain that the ID 
didn't hit at *exactly* Zero-zero. But it is a seamless presentation for 
listener and operator alike.

I have not tried this myself as I don't have a situation where it is needed. 
But on its face, this - or a variation of it - looks like it should work.

-AP
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Re: [RDD] Force CHAIN TO at fixed time

[Rick]

by Gerrit Hanenberg: (!) he sent this to me and uses it

We solved this by calling this bash script at midnight

#!/bin/bash
DATE=`date +%m%d`
rmlsend LL 1 Production-${DATE}\!
rmlsend PL 1 0\!

It will finish the song that is playing, so the list has some time to load





Peter van Embden schreef op 12-4-2014 15:46:
I'm actually thinking about getting rid of the segue to next log, if 
there is a way to load next days log manually of with RDCatch. Now 
to find out if there is such an option ...

Sincerely,
Peter van Embden
Radio Capelle
The Netherlands
Verstuurd
*Van:* Rick
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I have one hardtimed event @ the last item before the log chain , this 
forces the rotation to the next day with a silence of 6 seconds until 
we implement the script I was sent



Peter van Embden schreef op 12-4-2014 0:15:

Hello,
Our log just started to play over at the start of the log, without
chaining to the next day. We're trying to get our NEWS floating,
but with a maximum waiting time (1.30 after the hour). Works
fluently for 23 hours, except for midnight. Now I'd like to force
the loading of the next log at 23.59.30. Is that possible?
Thanks in advance,
Peter van Embden
Radio Capelle
The Netherlands
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Re: [RDD] Force CHAIN TO at fixed time

[Rick]

I have one hardtimed event @ the last item before the log chain  , this 
forces the rotation to the next day with a silence of 6 seconds until we 
implement the script I was sent



Peter van Embden schreef op 12-4-2014 0:15:

Hello,
Our log just started to play over at the start of the log, without 
chaining to the next day. We're trying to get our NEWS floating, but 
with a maximum waiting time (1.30 after the hour). Works fluently for 
23 hours, except for midnight. Now I'd like to force the loading of 
the next log at 23.59.30. Is that possible?

Thanks in advance,
Peter van Embden
Radio Capelle
The Netherlands
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Re: [RDD] ALSA-JACKD2-DARKICE

[Rick]

we also use Darkice deb multimedia but nevertheless we suffer regular 
crashes, in the next 60 days we also plan to test liquidsoap starting 
with reading the docs, anyone know wether in Liquidsoap the audio on a 
videostream can be processed seperately (without to much latency)?


Daniel Willson schreef op 27-3-2014 16:22:
Memory leak in which version? FWIW our streaming server has been 
running for months without issue (Debian Squeeze AMD64 with darkice 
version 1.2-dmo2 from the deb-multimedia repository):


http://www.deb-multimedia.org/dists/testing/main/binary-amd64/package/darkice-full

That said, I really want to check out liquidsoap based on all the 
feedback on the list.


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From: VE4PER Andy ve4...@aim.com mailto:ve4...@aim.com
Date: Thursday, March 27, 2014 8:42 AM
To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org 
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Subject: Re: [RDD] ALSA-JACKD2-DARKICE

found post in one of the ubuntu forums darkice has a memory leak 
supposedly and that appears to be reason for it not running extended 
periods without having to be restarted.



On 14-03-26 11:18 PM, VE4PER Andy wrote:

Update
have it running in 2nd box now and both streaming 2nd box has 3 sound 
cards
and also was a default install without removing pulse audio so gr8 
challenge to sort out how it works actually.


thanks for the tips over this to all

cheers

On 14-03-26 07:06 PM, VE4PER Andy wrote:

Thanks for the reply Karl, here is some further info re ur query:

with jack stopped  quit and alsamixer set up both mic and line 
inputs are live to speaker outputs.


with jack running and monitor1  monitor2 connected to darkice and 
meter nothing is streamed but still heard over localhost speakers.


front mic is live and set as capture device; when capture device is 
selected in patchbay and sent to meter and darkice audio is streamed 
by icecast and when tone is applied to line in also is streamed.


when the mic is removed so that local speakers don't feed back 
through, the stream being sent still include the tone from the line 
in. so despite jack only connecting capture audio from the 'no' 
microphone, the MASTER mixer output still appears to be fed out on 
the capture plugs in jack.


The master output from localhost would contain mix of line and mic 
but the darkice jackpatch is capture device only NOT the master 
mixed output according to jack patch setup.


To make matters worse when I stop any audio connections, and return 
to see alsa mixer, all are muted suddenly except mic audio and line 
AND automute is set to OFF.


doesn't make sense logically from what I understand of the info re 
jack and alsa online and in RD wiki/lists; maybe I have got it wrong 
somehow


Possibly changing to another linux box with multiple sound cards 
might help


system in the patch window shows capture 1  2 which are 
configurable under alsamixer to beith either one of two mics or else 
line in. the monitor 1-6 I assume are the surround sound outputs 
with 1  2 being front 2ch stereo; does this mean that there has to 
be speakers connected to these jacks on the pc in order to here 
anything on playbacks 3-6 in jack patchbay?



On 14-03-26 05:41 PM, Karl Koscher wrote:
Does this happen even when jackd isn't running? If so, your sound 
card might be internally mixing the audio input into the output. 
You'll need to use alsamixer (or something similar) to fix this.


ALSA apps can use JACK as a virtual sound card. The apps do not 
need to be JACK-aware.



On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 10:50 AM, VE4PER Andy ve4...@aim.com 
mailto:ve4...@aim.com wrote:


   got all working now with one strange occurrence.

with audacity, alsaplayer, ardour,aqualung and darkice all up
and running and showing their resources in jack connections as
one would expect plugging a 1000 hz tone into the line in
immediately causes tone output to speakers without being patched.

Using audacity to select the line input as it's source the
outputting it through Audcity's jack resources works ; can't
explain why it appears alsa is driving the speakers directly
when jack is running??

Can anyone explain  that?

Thanks
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Re: [RDD] some songs accelerated...

[Rick]

I looked it up for you we edited .asoundrc like this , this file is in 
your home map ( you can go there by cd ~ ), this forced jack to 44100 
because it sometimes adapts the sample rate from the alsa driver when 
loading despite jack being setup to 44100 already


pcm.!default {
type rate
slave {
pcm plughw:0,0
rate 44100
}
}

Rick schreef op 25-3-2014 15:53:


once this is done ( and you probably already have) force alsa to run 
at 44100 , your problem might be caused by Jack, we have had similar 
problems in a netjack setup which no longer appeared when we forced 
alsa to run at the rate of the wav's on all nodes


Fernando Della Torre schreef op 25-3-2014 15:28:

Hi Albert.

My bet would be that your files are all 44.1khz (CD tracks, very 
good) and somehow your jackd and/or Rivendell's caed daemon is 
running at 48khz.


Please check your jackd and Rivendell's sample rate at RDAdmin.

What Linux distro are you using?

Regards.




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2014-03-25 8:15 GMT-03:00 Albert Bruc albert.bruc...@gmail.com 
mailto:albert.bruc...@gmail.com:


and nope, they have the same sample rate...


2014-03-25 11:53 GMT+01:00 Rob Landry 41001...@interpring.com
mailto:41001...@interpring.com:


Oh, and... are the accelerated files recorded at a
different sample rate than the others?

On Tue, 25 Mar 2014, Rob Landry wrote:


What sort of files are these? Linear .wav?

What sound card do you use? Are you running ALSA? Jack?

What happens if you play one of the accelerated songs
on the same machine using something like aplay?


Rob


On Tue, 25 Mar 2014, Albert Bruc wrote:

Thanks for your help
yes some some are played faster (sorry for my english)
for having a good speed I need to edit the song,
delete cuts, re-create
them, saving
after this manipulation the song is good
my problem is how I can automatize that...
I've more than 15000 files...


2014-03-25 1:45 GMT+01:00 Brian
theturtl...@gmail.com mailto:theturtl...@gmail.com:
  I can't imagine how permissions could have
anything to do with
  an audio file playing faster (I assume that's
what Albert meant
  by accelerated).
If the permissions are wrong, then Rivendell won't be
able to read the
file, and there will be no audio at all.  It will
either play or it
won't.

Brian



On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Robert
jeffares.rob...@gmail.com
mailto:jeffares.rob...@gmail.com
wrote:
  check the permissions for the files in /var/snd

  they should be rd:rivendell and I chmod 777

  when you copied them across from the V1
/var/snd they may
  have had a
  username other then rd and who knows what
permissions

  this assumes appliance install

  regards

  Robert

  On Mon, 2014-03-24 at 10:21 +0100, Albert Bruc
wrote:
   Hi,
  
  
   I need your help !
  
  
   I've upgraded a rivendell installation from
1.7.5 to 2.7
  
   all working fine execpt some files who are
accelerated
  (not all), ...
  
  
   I've found a way to correct that (by file) :
suppress
  the cuts and
   recreate them
  
   but the problem is : I've 15 000 songs...
  
  
   Have you a solution for me ? for do that for
my all
  playlist without
   loose my cuts ?
  
   A script

Re: [RDD] some songs accelerated...

[Rick]

once this is done ( and you probably already have) force alsa to run at 
44100 , your problem might be caused by Jack, we have had similar 
problems in a netjack setup which no longer appeared when we forced alsa 
to run at the rate of the wav's on all nodes


Fernando Della Torre schreef op 25-3-2014 15:28:

Hi Albert.

My bet would be that your files are all 44.1khz (CD tracks, very good) 
and somehow your jackd and/or Rivendell's caed daemon is running at 48khz.


Please check your jackd and Rivendell's sample rate at RDAdmin.

What Linux distro are you using?

Regards.




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2014-03-25 8:15 GMT-03:00 Albert Bruc albert.bruc...@gmail.com 
mailto:albert.bruc...@gmail.com:


and nope, they have the same sample rate...


2014-03-25 11:53 GMT+01:00 Rob Landry 41001...@interpring.com
mailto:41001...@interpring.com:


Oh, and... are the accelerated files recorded at a different
sample rate than the others?

On Tue, 25 Mar 2014, Rob Landry wrote:


What sort of files are these? Linear .wav?

What sound card do you use? Are you running ALSA? Jack?

What happens if you play one of the accelerated songs on
the same machine using something like aplay?


Rob


On Tue, 25 Mar 2014, Albert Bruc wrote:

Thanks for your help
yes some some are played faster (sorry for my english)
for having a good speed I need to edit the song,
delete cuts, re-create
them, saving
after this manipulation the song is good
my problem is how I can automatize that...
I've more than 15000 files...


2014-03-25 1:45 GMT+01:00 Brian theturtl...@gmail.com
mailto:theturtl...@gmail.com:
  I can't imagine how permissions could have
anything to do with
  an audio file playing faster (I assume that's
what Albert meant
  by accelerated).
If the permissions are wrong, then Rivendell won't be
able to read the
file, and there will be no audio at all.  It will
either play or it
won't.

Brian



On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Robert
jeffares.rob...@gmail.com
mailto:jeffares.rob...@gmail.com
wrote:
  check the permissions for the files in /var/snd

  they should be rd:rivendell and I chmod 777

  when you copied them across from the V1 /var/snd
they may
  have had a
  username other then rd and who knows what
permissions

  this assumes appliance install

  regards

  Robert

  On Mon, 2014-03-24 at 10:21 +0100, Albert Bruc
wrote:
   Hi,
  
  
   I need your help !
  
  
   I've upgraded a rivendell installation from
1.7.5 to 2.7
  
   all working fine execpt some files who are
accelerated
  (not all), ...
  
  
   I've found a way to correct that (by file) :
suppress
  the cuts and
   recreate them
  
   but the problem is : I've 15 000 songs...
  
  
   Have you a solution for me ? for do that for
my all
  playlist without
   loose my cuts ?
  
   A script ?
  
  
   Thanks !
  
   --
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   Gnu/Linux  Media Architect
  
  
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[RDD] algorithm weight of a cut

[Rick]

If I want to set up the weight of the cuts in RDLibrary so I need some 
knowledge on the algorithm behind this system, did anybody already 
looked into this?

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Re: [RDD] algorithm weight of a cut

[Rick]

tnxs, been on that site a few times when I started with Rivendell, 
missed this



Gerrit van den Hanenberg schreef op 24-3-2014 17:39:

If I want to set up the weight of the cuts in RDLibrary so I need some
knowledge on the algorithm behind this system, did anybody already
looked into this?
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Maybe this old posting from Frederick Henderson does explain it enough for
you.

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Re: [RDD] ALSA JACK Darkice/Icecast

[Rick]

We have it working on Debian (squeeze and wheezy) on this setup:

1. Do a FRESH install of Debian with ONLY SSH and utilities !!! (DON'T 
INSTALL ANYTHING ELSE YET)

2. wget and dpkg -i darkice, libaac, libfaac and libmp3 from here
http://www.deb-multimedia.org/dists/oldstable/main/binary-i386/package/darkice-full 
squeeze 
http://www.deb-multimedia.org/dists/oldstable/main/binary-i386/package/darkice-full%20squeeze
http://www.deb-multimedia.org/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/package/darkice-full 
wheezy 
http://www.deb-multimedia.org/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/package/darkice-full%20wheezy

3. apt-get install libasound2
4. if still any uninstalled dependancies do apt-get -f install
5. apt-get install darksnow (if you like it, I do)

Now you can start installing Gnome / XFCE etc , RD, Jack and so on.

Open terminal, give the darksnow command and fill in the details, works 
with any codec !



Daniel Willson schreef op 22-3-2014 17:57:

We couldn't ever get the version of Darkice in the Ubuntu repositories to work. 
We moved Darkice to a Debian system using the Deb-Multimedia repository. You 
might want to download/compile the latest version from the project site or find 
a third-party Ubuntu repo with a newer version. Latest is 1.2. Hope that helps.


On Mar 22, 2014, at 11:05 AM, VE4PER/Andy ve4...@aim.com wrote:

Hello all,

I have installed ALSA,JACK, and Darkice. Jackd2 is running in real time no 
problem and audacity, ardour, alsaplayer and aqualung all wok as advertised 
with it.

Where I have a problem is Darkice, I cannot get it to connect to icecast2 server input 
nor show up in Jack Connections/Patchbay. Icecast2 is workting fine and when I click on 
the listen Live link on the station website it opens alsaplayer as it is 
supposed to; so I assume all is well with icecast2.

Thanks, Andy

the problem is as below (and if someone could point me to a patch and procedure 
to apply it) :
-
darkice -c /usr/local/icecast2/conf/darkice.cfg
DarkIce 1.0 live audio streamer, http://code.google.com/p/darkice/
Copyright (c) 2000-2007, Tyrell Hungary, http://tyrell.hu/
Copyright (c) 2008-2010, Akos Maroy and Rafael Diniz
This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under the terms of The GNU General Public License version 3 or
any later version.

Using config file: /usr/local/icecast2/conf/darkice.cfg
Using JACK audio server as input device.
Using POSIX real-time scheduling, priority 98
jack_client_new: deprecated
Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory
Cannot connect to server socket
jack server is not running or cannot be started
DarkIce: JackDspSource.cpp:216: JACK server not running? [0]


config file

[general]
duration = 0  # duration in s, 0 forever
bufferSecs  = 1  # buffer, in seconds
reconnect   = yes# reconnect if disconnected

[input]
device  = jackauto  # for jack audio connection
sampleRate  = 44100  # sample rate 11025, 22050 or 44100
bitsPerSample   = 16 # bits
channel = 2  # 2 = stereo

[icecast2-0]
bitrateMode = vbr   # variable bit rate (`cbr' constant, `abr' 
average)
quality = 1.0   # 1.0 is best quality
format  = mp3   # format. Choose `vorbis' for OGG Vorbis
bitrate = 256   # bitrate
server  = woodchipper # or IP
port= 8049  # port for IceCast2 access
password= password# source password to the IceCast2 server
mountPoint  = ccor58.mp3  # mount point on the IceCast2 server .mp3 
or .ogg
name= ccor58

---
sysinfo

-Computer-
Processor: 2x AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 215 Processor
Memory   : 3791MB (1934MB used)
Operating System: Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS
User Name: userid (Maintenance)
Date/Time: Sat 22 Mar 2014 03:51:42 PM UTC
-Display-
Resolution: 2944x1080 pixels
OpenGL Renderer: GeForce 9200/integrated/SSE2
X11 Vendor: The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
Audio Adapter: Em28xx-Audio - Em28xx Audio
-Input Devices-
Power Button
Power Button
em28xx IR (em28xx
HDA NVidia Line
HDA NVidia Front Mic
HDA NVidia Rear Mic
HDA NVidia Front Headphone
HDA NVidia Line-Out CLFE
HDA NVidia Line-Out Surround
HDA NVidia Line-Out Front

-Version-
Kernel: Linux 3.2.0-60-generic (x86_64)
Compiled: #91-Ubuntu SMP Wed Feb 19 03:54:44 UTC 2014
C Library: Unknown
Default C Compiler: GNU C Compiler version 4.6.3 (Ubuntu/Linaro 
4.6.3-1ubuntu5)
Distribution: Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS
-Current Session-
Computer Name   : workstation
User Name: userid (Maintenance)
Home Directory 

Re: [RDD] ALSA JACK Darkice/Icecast

[Rick]

Probably the best advice, somebody posted a more stable Darkice a few 
days ago and i am in the process of setting this version online, but I 
must agree I have the same experience with Darkice as Wayne has, my best 
uptime over the last 3 months was about 10 days or so, somebody called 
Cowboy in this list also advised to used liquidsoap earlier on to me



Wayne Merricks schreef op 22-3-2014 20:33:

Hi,

If you're not wedded to darkice, I really recommend you move to 
something like liquidsoap.  Its never let me down and I've been 
running it for nearly 3 years now (currently on Ubuntu Server 12.04 
but used to use 10.04 before that).  My current uptime is 438days 
23minutes.


When I used to use darkice, I think 60 days was the most I ever had 
without something going wonky (more usually it was a few days to a week).


Liquidsoap is also much more powerful in that you can use silent 
monitors, backup failover streams, re-encoding to multiple formats etc 
etc.


Guide including upstart scripts available here:

http://pastebin.com/u/MezzFA0

Regards,

Wayne


On 2014-03-22 17:31, VE4PER/Andy wrote:

I found a link to patch (see below) but no instructions on where or
how to apply it or whether it is relevant/obsolete now??
does anybody here know?

biggest initial problem with darkice was had to use ==prefix=/usr in
the ./configure to install the lame vorbis and ogg libraries.
once that was done I am just left with this one error now.

PATCH ( obtained from web site for a church radio station; sorry no
link saved)

Index: src/JackDspSource.cpp
===
--- src/JackDspSource.cpp(revision 479)
+++ src/JackDspSource.cpp(working copy)
@@ -206,7 +206,7 @@
   snprintf(client_name, 255, darkice-%d, getpid());
 }

-if ((client = jack_client_new(client_name)) == NULL) {
+if ((client = jack_client_open(client_name, (jack_options_t)0,
NULL)) == NULL) {
 throw Exception( __FILE__, __LINE__, JACK server not 
running?);

 }
 Reporter::reportEvent( 1, Registering as JACK client, 
client_name);



_ 















On 14-03-22 05:09 PM, Rick wrote:



We have it working on Debian (squeeze and wheezy) on this setup:

1. Do a FRESH install of Debian with ONLY SSH and utilities !!! 
(DON'T INSTALL ANYTHING ELSE YET)

2. wget and dpkg -i darkice, libaac, libfaac and libmp3 from here

http://www.deb-multimedia.org/dists/oldstable/main/binary-i386/package/darkice-full 
squeeze 
http://www.deb-multimedia.org/dists/oldstable/main/binary-i386/package/darkice-full%20squeeze


http://www.deb-multimedia.org/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/package/darkice-full 
wheezy 
http://www.deb-multimedia.org/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/package/darkice-full%20wheezy

3. apt-get install libasound2
4. if still any uninstalled dependancies do apt-get -f install
5. apt-get install darksnow (if you like it, I do)

Now you can start installing Gnome / XFCE etc , RD, Jack and so on.

Open terminal, give the darksnow command and fill in the details, 
works with any codec !



Daniel Willson schreef op 22-3-2014 17:57:
We couldn't ever get the version of Darkice in the Ubuntu 
repositories to work. We moved Darkice to a Debian system using the 
Deb-Multimedia repository. You might want to download/compile the 
latest version from the project site or find a third-party Ubuntu 
repo with a newer version. Latest is 1.2. Hope that helps.



On Mar 22, 2014, at 11:05 AM, VE4PER/Andy ve4...@aim.com wrote:

Hello all,

I have installed ALSA,JACK, and Darkice. Jackd2 is running in real 
time no problem and audacity, ardour, alsaplayer and aqualung all 
wok as advertised with it.


Where I have a problem is Darkice, I cannot get it to connect to 
icecast2 server input nor show up in Jack Connections/Patchbay. 
Icecast2 is workting fine and when I click on the listen Live 
link on the station website it opens alsaplayer as it is supposed 
to; so I assume all is well with icecast2.


Thanks, Andy

the problem is as below (and if someone could point me to a patch 
and procedure to apply it) :

-
darkice -c /usr/local/icecast2/conf/darkice.cfg
DarkIce 1.0 live audio streamer, http://code.google.com/p/darkice/
Copyright (c) 2000-2007, Tyrell Hungary, http://tyrell.hu/
Copyright (c) 2008-2010, Akos Maroy and Rafael Diniz
This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under the terms of The GNU General Public License version 3 or
any later version.

Using config file: /usr/local/icecast2/conf/darkice.cfg
Using JACK audio server as input device.
Using POSIX real-time scheduling, priority 98
jack_client_new: deprecated
Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory
Cannot connect to server socket
jack server is not running or cannot be started
DarkIce: JackDspSource.cpp:216: JACK server not running? [0

Re: [RDD] Log Skipping Hard Start Time Events

[Rick]

I have the same issue, setting up multiple hard start times type make 
next in one 24 hour log completely messes up the intended sequence of 
events in RDAirplay, the only Hard Time which worked without problems is 
the one which rotated the clock but I have replced that because of it 
creating a silence when rotating


Brandon Sossamon schreef op 17-3-2014 17:24:

As mentioned before, I'm running my system thru the rigors before
putting it on air.  I've been running logs the past few days and it's
purging songs as needed in order to hit the hard start timed events
(set up as Make Next).  Every few hours it will actually skip the hard
start timed event.  How should I avoid this as some of these have
sponsors?  I've tried a couple of different scenarios:

The events are Top of the Hour and Bottom of the Hour.  TOH is weather

Legal ID.  BOH is weather intro  weather sponsor  weather.  I've

tried setting each up as it's own event, scheduled the appropriate
time and Make Next.  I also, and currently have it set up as a TOH
event Pre-Importing the Weather cart and Legal ID Cart, and a BOH
event Pre-Importing the Weather Intro cart, Weather Sponsor Cart and
Weather cart.  Either way, the log occasionally skips these events.

Thanks in advance!

RD version 2.8 on CentOS appliance disc.

--brandon sossamon
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Re: [RDD] Now Next Parameters

[Rick]

best is to use Linux commands like locate , find or whereis to locate 
(setup) files in the RD installation for your distro, after which you 
make a copy in /etc and use this one as a parameter for the rlm , first 
you need to edit this with a text editor and set up the parameters (ip, 
port etc etc)


Brandon Sossamon schreef op 17-3-2014 18:39:

Thanks!  I don't think I'll have that issue as I don't have any of
those characters in my library.
Rick had mentioned something about using the RLM with the setup file
rlm_shoutcast1.conf as a parameter.  As I'm not well versed in Linux,
what do I need to do with this?
Additionally, I have my stream going out via a Windows box.  Should
the IP feed that box or does it need to go out over the stream
IP:port?

Many thanks!
---brandon

On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Fernando Della Torre f...@vdit.com.br wrote:

Hi Brandon.

It works, but I had rdairplay crashing and exiting when using special chars,
as ç, é, ã. And I really need them, as I'm on Brazil.

Regards,




Atenciosamente,



Fernando Della Torre

Tecnologia da Informação

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(: +55 16 99137-2886

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2014-03-17 13:30 GMT-03:00 Brandon Sossamon brandon.sossa...@gmail.com:

Question:
Theoretically, are you supposed to be able to use the Now  Next
feature in RD without a 3rd Party?  In other words, enter the IP, Port
and string and it will then transmit the metadata to the stream?  Or
do you have to have a 3rd party such as Emitworks or the like?
I have a Windows based program that will transmit to the IP after
pulling the metadata from a txt file.  I assumed it was the same for
Now  Next in RD but I don't get any title updates on the stream end.

I'm streaming via ShoutCast.  If 3rd party is required, who is
everyone using these days?  After looking at the wiki, it seems
Emitworks and RD Streamdata are no longer around by the links posted
in the article.

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[RDD] silence at log rotation

[Rick]

On a dual core on 10% CPU I have about 10 seconds of silence at 00:00 
when the log rotates to the next day. I am sure others have solved this 
a long time ago, so perhaps anybody can tell me how to solve this or 
share his solution?



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Re: [RDD] silence at log rotation

[Rick]

I use segue and the last item in the overscheduled log is always a hard 
timed record but always a different one ofcourse


Gavin Stephens schreef op 13-3-2014 2:00:
How do you guys transistion to the next log? I noticed the bigger teh 
log the longer the delay so I always use segue to the next log.




- Original Message - From: Dan Gruner d...@loudaudio.co.uk
To: Rick rickc...@home.nl
Cc: User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System 
rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org

Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: [RDD] silence at log rotation


I have exactly the same issue - although the silence tends to vary 
from anything up to 10 secs.  Very annoying!


Dan Gruner
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On 12 Mar 2014, at 23:07, Rick rickc...@home.nl wrote:


On a dual core on 10% CPU I have about 10 seconds of silence at 
00:00 when the log rotates to the next day. I am sure others have 
solved this a long time ago, so perhaps anybody can tell me how to 
solve this or share his solution?



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Re: [RDD] Some questions...

[Rick]

Pedro Picoto schreef op 8-3-2014 21:40:
- When a cart or cut is deleted, is the audio file also purged? If 
not, how to?
you can check if the cut still exists on your HD in /var/snd after 
deleting it, but it should be removed


- I'm noticing that some days the scheduller picks the same artist to 
play at the same (or near) hour of the previous day(s). Feature or 
something to take some care in the feature?


you can set replay same artists or number to 32 hours , but there is no 
nice clean way to program this exept using an external scheduler like 
stationplaylistcreator


- How to reset the database regarding played logs, i.e. start from 
scratch?


only logs?


- Backtiming  dynamic breaks (TOH mainly): how or when?...

havn't got a clue what you mean by this, but probably this will be 
managed by RDCatch, explain



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Re: [RDD] more segfaults errors [solved]

[Rick]

RDAirplay crashed when the Shoutcast RLM tried to broadcast Bubblé and 
Beyoncé , we suspect the é to be the cause of the problem , changed to e...



Jim Stewart schreef op 24-2-2014 0:16:


Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 14:24:21 +0100

From: Rick rickc...@home.nl mailto:rickc...@home.nl

To: User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System

rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org 
mailto:rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org


Subject: [RDD] more segfaults errors

Message-ID: 5309f685.7030...@home.nl mailto:5309f685.7030...@home.nl

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

ØCan I use silentjack to start RDAirplay automaticaly and how is this 
done?


Sure, I do.  Our main system uses the silence since on a broadcast 
tools 8.2 switch, but we have a backup that uses silentjack:


I startup silentjack with a line like this:

silentjack -q -c rivendell_0:playout_0L -n Silence_Alarm -p 5 -g 60 
silence_alarm


So this assumes I'm listening to Rivendell_0:playout_0L as yours 
might be different, then it calls a script I wrote called silence_alarm.


In silence_alarm is a lot of logic to sort through different issues 
that can cause silence on our station (such as problem Internet 
feeds), but here is the part that handles a crashed rdairplay:


#!/bin/sh

if ( ! ps -C rdairplay  /dev/null 21 ) ; then

  rdairplay 

  sleep 7

  echo LC BLACK Restarted: `date +'%b-%d %T'`'!'  /dev/shm/restart

  rmlsend --from-file=/dev/shm/restart

  sleep 15

  rmlsend PB\ 1!

  sleep 30

fi

Save this to a file somewhere like /usr/local/bin and mark is 
executable with chmod +x silence_alarm


So what this does is checks to see if rdairplay is running, and if it 
isn't, it starts it.  I also have it leaving a message about this in 
/dev/shm/restart (which is a ramdisk-like space on my Debian system, 
you may need to save it elsewhere), and then also sends it to the 
label area of rdairplay so that there is notice that this happened 
and when.


Finally after the rdairplay gets running and its log automatically 
gets reloaded, it starts is playing again with the PB 1! command.




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[RDD] more segfaults errors

[Rick]

Can I use silentjack to start RDAirplay automaticaly and how is this done?


Feb 23 14:13:30 TouchScreen rdairplay: started audio cart: Line: 441  
Cart: 10941  Cut: 1 Pos: 0  Card: 0  Stream: 0  Port: 0
Feb 23 14:13:31 TouchScreen kernel: [309812.168624] rdairplay[17480]: 
segfault at 2517441e ip b7745e4e sp bfb0ce70 error 6 in 
rlm_shoutcast1.rlm[b7745000+2000]

Feb 23 14:14:55 TouchScreen rdairplay: mode set to AUTO
Feb 23 14:14:56 TouchScreen rdairplay: Loading RLM 
/usr/lib/rivendell/rlm_shoutcast1.rlm



Feb 23 14:18:54 TouchScreen rdairplay: started audio cart: Line: 357  
Cart: 10941  Cut: 1 Pos: 0  Card: 0  Stream: 1  Port: 0
Feb 23 14:18:54 TouchScreen kernel: [310135.714899] rdairplay[25315]: 
segfault at 251253fe ip b777be4e sp bfabde50 error 6 in 
rlm_shoutcast1.rlm[b777b000+2000]

Feb 23 14:21:17 TouchScreen rdairplay: mode set to AUTO

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Re: [RDD] more segfaults errors

[Rick]

tnx very much Jim

Jim Stewart schreef op 24-2-2014 0:16:


Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 14:24:21 +0100

From: Rick rickc...@home.nl mailto:rickc...@home.nl

To: User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System

rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org 
mailto:rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org


Subject: [RDD] more segfaults errors

Message-ID: 5309f685.7030...@home.nl mailto:5309f685.7030...@home.nl

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

ØCan I use silentjack to start RDAirplay automaticaly and how is this 
done?


Sure, I do.  Our main system uses the silence since on a broadcast 
tools 8.2 switch, but we have a backup that uses silentjack:


I startup silentjack with a line like this:

silentjack -q -c rivendell_0:playout_0L -n Silence_Alarm -p 5 -g 60 
silence_alarm


So this assumes I'm listening to Rivendell_0:playout_0L as yours 
might be different, then it calls a script I wrote called silence_alarm.


In silence_alarm is a lot of logic to sort through different issues 
that can cause silence on our station (such as problem Internet 
feeds), but here is the part that handles a crashed rdairplay:


#!/bin/sh

if ( ! ps -C rdairplay  /dev/null 21 ) ; then

  rdairplay 

  sleep 7

  echo LC BLACK Restarted: `date +'%b-%d %T'`'!'  /dev/shm/restart

  rmlsend --from-file=/dev/shm/restart

  sleep 15

  rmlsend PB\ 1!

  sleep 30

fi

Save this to a file somewhere like /usr/local/bin and mark is 
executable with chmod +x silence_alarm


So what this does is checks to see if rdairplay is running, and if it 
isn't, it starts it.  I also have it leaving a message about this in 
/dev/shm/restart (which is a ramdisk-like space on my Debian system, 
you may need to save it elsewhere), and then also sends it to the 
label area of rdairplay so that there is notice that this happened 
and when.


Finally after the rdairplay gets running and its log automatically 
gets reloaded, it starts is playing again with the PB 1! command.




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Re: [RDD] Redundant Hard Drive/Backup

[Rick]

You might consider Steve Gibson's SpinRite 6.0 by Gibson Research Corporation 
(grc.com).

Many of his customers do just that - they run SpinRite on NEW drives (even 
though it's often used as a preventive maintenance or disaster recovery 
utility).  It puts them through their paces and analyzes them thoroughly.  I 
believe it does mark marginal bad sectors as bad if it cannot revitalize them.

I actually used SpinRite (I think v1.0 !) regularly on my first hard drive 
(30MB RLL!).  That product has been around for about 30 years, and is 
legitimate.  He's re-writing it currently from the ground up, and if you buy 
the current version (6.0), upgrades to 6.x and 7.0 (the new re-written one) 
will be free.  I think the price is around $89.00.

He also has a great weekly podcast called Security Now! you might check out.

I have no formal affiliation with grc.com - this is just a personal 
recommendation.


Cheers,
Rick Quendun
KMUZ Engineering




 From: nathan lawson nathan...@gmail.com
To: Jim Stewart jstew...@paceaudio.com 
Cc: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org 
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Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: [RDD] Redundant Hard Drive/Backup
 


Just be aware that Software RAID has its settings saved in the software of the 
OS so it can be a right mare to recover from. Thats when i decided to start 
looking at even the lower end hardware cards...

Regards



On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 10:32 PM, Jim Stewart jstew...@paceaudio.com wrote:

Here is what I will add to this RAID discussion:
 
1)  The best description of the difference between hardware and software 
RAID is “what CPU is doing the RAID”.  A true hardware RAID doesn’t tax the 
host system for RAID functions.  That said on many workloads, (like I’d expect 
most Rivendell ones) there is likely plenty of spare CPU cycles to do RAID 
while the CPU is likely just waiting for I/O anyway.  Video Rendering is 
likely a different story!
2)  People do get a false sense of security with RAID.  As previously 
mentioned, it does not protect you from corruption, accidental deletions, etc. 
  More than that people often don’t consider how they are going to have to 
deal with an actual RAID system failure.  Consider the following:
a.   I’ve seen I many times, someone has a fancy, high-priced hardware 
RAID system on a mission critical system so that they can sleep nights feeling 
pretty protected.  Suddenly the RAID hardware goes down!  Did they think about 
having a space RAID box laying around?  No!  They have to get a new one flown 
in at great expense only to be out priced by the expense of the actual down 
time!
b.  Okay so you have one of those motherboard BIOS based software RAID 
setups (that a lot of people *think* is hardware RAID), in this case you 
typically get the worse parts of software and hardware RAID in this situation. 
 Not only are you still stealing main CPU cycles, but once again now the 
motherboard goes down and you have to find another one that does that system’s 
way of doing RAID!
c.   Now consider Linux software RAID.  You can have all the hardware 
failures you want and simply boot your Linux + RAID set up on new hardware and 
you are up and running again!  The only drawback here is your stuck with 
running Linux (LOL) to operate your RAID.
3)  Linux RAID also seem less picky about choice of hard drives as you can 
mix and match (although typically not the greatest idea for performance 
reasons), and all is fine.  Also I don’t know about those BIOS RAID solutions, 
but if you have hot-swapable drives, you shouldn’t have to shut down your 
system to replace and rebuild drives.  Granted most good hardware RAID systems 
give you this too.
 
I’ve been subject to another advantage of RAID:  I’ve recently had lots of 
trouble with modern hard drives that have “not-quite-defective” sectors.  This 
has been a real pain for me as the whole system stalls out as the hard drive 
struggles to read data in a “not officially bad sector”, which it eventually 
does, but only after a system slowdown.  I wish someone would write a good 
disk tester that as real short time-outs so to mark these marginal areas bad 
and be done with it!   Anyway, with RAID mirroring, it seems like the system 
runs just fine (as long as you are reading, not writing) as any bad spots on 
one drive are read instead by the other one in the mirror set.  Yea I know, 
why am I messing with bad drives?  The truth is I can’t seem to find any that 
don’t do this these days, I think I’ve tried all the (few remaining) hard 
drive makes/models there are.  I’ve been told that if I go with some sort of 
“high-end”
 drives like SAS interface ones, that the QC is higher on them and I probably 
won’t have the problem.  It would be too bad if this is what it takes.
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Re: [RDD] Rivendell-dev Digest, Vol 10, Issue 1

[Rick]

Cowboy,
Is it correct to say you're advising strictly on the traditional analog 
physical output realm?
I have to say, I'm intrigued by Jim's virtual approach using Jack!

We have an 8x2 switch as well, and are gradually using it more as we 
mature (we're a fledgling community radio station only now going into 
our 3rd year).

Along with some recent studio improvements, we're looking at additional usage 
of the 8x2 switch, which initally included a graphical-something to 
click on to perform an 8x2 switch operation.  The initial thought was an icon 
approach in Winblows, with the associated RS-232 signal wiriing back (or serial 
over CATx) to the switch, but another idea has emerged: an 
internal PHP/web-based interface.  This would be platform-independent 
(implemented in Linux) with the RS-232 wiring simplified down to the web 
server-to-switch.  Provides more flexible access within the station to 
the 8x2 switch.  Add access controls as desired.  So far, I'm liking the idea :)


Cheers,
Rick QuendunKMUZ Engineering



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To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org 
Sent: Monday, February 3, 2014 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: [RDD] Rivendell-dev Digest, Vol 10, Issue 1
 

On Monday 03 February 2014 12:14:01 pm Jim Stewart wrote:
 Although I don't use the ASI cards, or the Appliance (use the Tryphon builds 
 instead), but can't you just use Jack Connection Kit to mono-up the stereo 
 channels?  I do this all the time with my setup for remote broadcast IFB 
 usage as well as for a low-bandwidth, low-delay preview stream we use for 
 internal use.   Since Jack is all synchronized (one reason why it is so picky 
 about things), it mixes things quite nicely by simply jacking multiple 
 sources to one destination.

Just a note for anyone getting any ideas

You can NEVER physically bridge outputs in the real world.
If you do, one becomes a low-Z load for the other, and depending
on the instantaneous audio voltage the R can actually go negative,
causing an infinite ( well, until the chip blows ) current to flow.

The horrific distortion is minor by comparison.

-- 
Cowboy

http://cowboy.cwf1.com

It's not reality or how you perceive things that's important -- it's
what you're taking for it...


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Re: [RDD] Rivendell-dev Digest, Vol 10, Issue 1

[Rick]

Virtual idea sounds great with phase check being critical.
For Jim's virtual approach, I would think there should be an effective baseline 
phase test one could employ.

Something along the lines of L+R phase test audio == virtual summing == check 
result for phase (something simple  consistent).
I'm envisioning the output could be a simple audio/listen test, and/or output 
to a file (.WAV for example), and pull up in Audacity for a visual check?

I'm thinking this already exists...



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Sent: Monday, February 3, 2014 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [RDD] Rivendell-dev Digest, Vol 10, Issue 1
 

On Monday 03 February 2014 04:53:55 pm Robert Jeffares wrote:
 I seem to remember some clever 3 resistor arrays that matched the output 
 impedance and fed a single channel. Bit of insertion loss but enough 
 isolation to avert the electrical problems.

I've got the drawing for a minimum loss mix pad here somewhere.
Might have been the three resistor thing

Something like a 3db loss, which is less than the combining gain !
It does depend on matched source and load Z, something not
likely to be seen with modern equipment.

Personally, I always liked using a single channel balanced input,
and feeding L+ and R- into to it, to obtain L+R out and let the
differential input do what it does !

-- 
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[RDD] RDstreamdata

[Rick]

I have installed this script 
http://rivendell.tryphon.org/wiki/Streaming_from_Rivendell#Updating_metadata_IceCast2.2FShoutcast_with_Rivendell_-_RDSTREAMDATA 



script is running (after reboot) in the same user as RDairplay , tmp fle 
is empty but created ,


this is the rdstreamdata log in /var/log

Mon Feb  3 01:55:31 CET 2014 - Startup scrip has received a STOP command
Mon Feb  3 01:56:36 CET 2014 - Startup scrip has received a START command
Mon Feb  3 01:56:36 CET 2014 - RDstreamdata
Mon Feb 3 01:58:01 CET 2014 - Rivendell is running


no now  next is streamed to shoutcast anybody know what may be wrong?
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Re: [RDD] RDstreamdata

[Rick]

unfortunately that is not an option at this point, but tnxs

Karl Koscher schreef op 3-2-2014 3:20:
There is an rlm_icecast2 module that we use for this. I would 
recommend trying that instead.



On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Rick rickc...@home.nl 
mailto:rickc...@home.nl wrote:



I have installed this script

http://rivendell.tryphon.org/wiki/Streaming_from_Rivendell#Updating_metadata_IceCast2.2FShoutcast_with_Rivendell_-_RDSTREAMDATA


script is running (after reboot) in the same user as RDairplay ,
tmp fle is empty but created ,

this is the rdstreamdata log in /var/log

Mon Feb  3 01:55:31 CET 2014 - Startup scrip has received a STOP
command
Mon Feb  3 01:56:36 CET 2014 - Startup scrip has received a START
command
Mon Feb  3 01:56:36 CET 2014 - RDstreamdata
Mon Feb 3 01:58:01 CET 2014 - Rivendell is running


no now  next is streamed to shoutcast anybody know what may be wrong?

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Re: [RDD] RDstreamdata

[Rick]

Hello Fernando,

Debian Wheezy

regards,

Rick

Fernando Della Torre schreef op 3-2-2014 4:38:

Hello Rick, What is your Linux distro and version?

It used to work well under Ubuntu 10.04 when I wrote it, now I've been 
using an adaptec version for Ubuntu 12.04.


I gotta fing some spare time to write some docs and post it.


Fernando Della Torre

(16) 98137-1240
(16) 99137-2886



2014-02-03 Rick rickc...@home.nl mailto:rickc...@home.nl:

unfortunately that is not an option at this point, but tnxs

Karl Koscher schreef op 3-2-2014 3:20:

There is an rlm_icecast2 module that we use for this. I would
recommend trying that instead.


On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Rick rickc...@home.nl
mailto:rickc...@home.nl wrote:


I have installed this script

http://rivendell.tryphon.org/wiki/Streaming_from_Rivendell#Updating_metadata_IceCast2.2FShoutcast_with_Rivendell_-_RDSTREAMDATA


script is running (after reboot) in the same user as
RDairplay , tmp fle is empty but created ,

this is the rdstreamdata log in /var/log

Mon Feb  3 01:55:31 CET 2014 - Startup scrip has received a
STOP command
Mon Feb  3 01:56:36 CET 2014 - Startup scrip has received a
START command
Mon Feb  3 01:56:36 CET 2014 - RDstreamdata
Mon Feb 3 01:58:01 CET 2014 - Rivendell is running


no now  next is streamed to shoutcast anybody know what may
be wrong?

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Re: [RDD] First Steps Document

[Rick]

I've been following this thread for about 2 years now (I'm not giving up on 
RDD), but even still, feel RDD isn't (yet) a good fit for our station.
I tried installing it quite some time ago, and it felt too complex, with too 
little documentation.
Our station is all volunteer, so I would be completely on the hook to keep it 
running, and without good support documenation, I wasn't comfortable making the 
jump yet.  That being said, I'm glad to see RDD continue to evolve and improve 
though!  I consider it excellent.


I agree with Brandon's request.
I think some intiial configuration examples with first steps would be really 
helpful for new users.

Give them a few baseline examples to succeed with.
From there, they can begin to add extras and gain confidence with setting 
up/maintaining RDD.


Take a look at Untangle's documentation - different product, but an excellent 
example of user-friendly documentation:
http://wiki.untangle.com


While it's true there are many possibilities, a good start might be say, 3 
example configs that could helpful to new users.  

Conceptually something along the lines of:
- Beginner - Basic/Simplest config

- Intermediate - Beginner plus a most common option

- Advanced - Intermediate plus one or two options

An example structure like the above should be quite feasible.
This would also establish a base of example configurations (with steps) that 
others could build upon and contribute.

I hope this feedback is helpful,
Rick Quendun
KMUZ Engineering





 From: Brandon Sossamon brandon.sossa...@gmail.com
To: Alessio Elmi alessio_e...@hotmail.com 
Cc: Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org 
rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org 
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: [RDD] First Steps Document
 


Its looking like a stand alone set up. I thought about networking with my 
OptiPlex and using that as music import and log creation but it would have to 
send it to the primary play out machine. 
Mainly music rotation with a few features sprinkled in daily. 
brandon sossamon
On Jan 31, 2014 10:00 AM, Alessio Elmi alessio_e...@hotmail.com wrote:

Hi Brandon,
there's no unique way to set up things, as there may be many configurations in 
response to the needs of every radio station.
Are you considering an independent stand-alone workstation or a networked 
configuration (with a db and storage server and many clients)?
Do you need live/presenter interaction or just music rotation?


Alessio



2014-01-31 Brandon Sossamon brandon.sossa...@gmail.com:

Thanks.  I've been on the wiki for quite some time studying up.  Like most 
wiki's it's vague in some places and detailed in others.  I hadn't seen the 
First Steps doc in quite some time so just wanted to make sure I wasn't 
missing anything.  I've had RD installed on 2 machines to play around with and 
learn.  I'm now installing it on a pro machine so I want to make sure all is 
done right.
I apologize to all for the basic questions.  As mentioned before, Linux is 
new to me but so far I'm loving it.  Thanks for the help!

-- 

brandon sossamon
 
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[RDD] segue in download cartridges

[Rick]

Is it possible segue positions are removed every time a new download 
comes in in the same cartridge? Is this supposed to happen or is it a bug?

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Re: [RDD] Audioports not available in jack

[Rick]

As far as we ran in to similar problems this was due to the fact that RD 
did not run as the same user Jack was started by


kind regards from the Netherlands,

Rick
Peter van Embden schreef op 23-12-2013 11:57:

Hello (again),
You've been very helpfull so far (thanks a LOT!) and I think the 
station I'm working on is almost there. But, yet again, we've run into 
a problem my system manager (handy guy) can't fix. Here's what he wrote:

_
We migrated from our test Rivendell machine to the final one it will 
eventually be.  We created a new host, and removed the old test host 
from the system.  Unfortunately, now Rivendell no longer creates any 
jack ports for us which we can route to our central audio server.  In 
fact, when I do jack_lsp I only see the (networked) audio card.  
rivendell_0 isn't there.
When I click manage hosts and edit audio ports, everything is greyed 
out.  It says driver UNKNOWN and I can't seem to edit anything.  I'm 
not sure where to proceed from here.  I'm pretty sure this is 
connected to the changing of the hostnames.  Which seemed logical at 
the time, but in hindsight maybe wasn't smart

Either way, how can I get Rivendell to create jack ports again?
Some extra information: our audio card consists of a firewire 
interface to a digital mixing desk.  It is on a server dedicated only 
to the firewire interface.  Rivendell should not (and cannot) worry 
about audio cards/routing of audio in our case.  All it needs to do is 
just create the relevant jack ports on startup and our audio server 
can do the rest.

_
If you know the answer to this, please let me know!
Kind regards,
Peter van Embden


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[RDD] darkice with AAC and Lame Wheezy / Squeeze

[Rick]

For anyone who - like me - cannot get Darkice compiled nor installed 
from the tryphon repo with mp3 and aac support - dependancy problems - 
this is how I got it to work.


1. Do a fresh install of Debian with ONLY SSH and utilities.
2. wget and dpkg -i darkice, libaac, libfaac and libmp3 form here
http://www.deb-multimedia.org/dists/oldstable/main/binary-i386/package/darkice-full 
squeeze
http://www.deb-multimedia.org/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/package/darkice-full 
wheezy

3. apt-get install libasound2
4. if still any uninstalled dependancies do apt-get -f install
5. apt-get install darksnow (if you like it, I do)

Now you can start installing Gnome / XFCE etc , RD, Jack and so on.

Open terminal, give the darksnow command and fill in the details, works 
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[RDD] jack_netmanager not adapting samplerate slave in wheezy

[Rick]

Who like me is setting up digital audio connections in RD and cannot get 
the jack_netmanager to adapt the samplerate of the slave because of some 
Alsa setups overruling any other setup when starting jack_netmanager 
(Debian Wheezy, Squeeze is working but only on driver dummie)


vi ~/.asoundrc

pcm.!default {
type rate
slave {
pcm plughw:0,0
rate 44100
}
}

and set driver to Alsa in qjackctl, reboot

the netmanager will now follow this samplerate
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Re: [RDD] undocumented features

[Rick]

thxs for this Jim, this week I will give this a deeper look, also Freds 
ideas are in process, as we had Qjackctl running for 16 days during the 
process Fred we could verify it has no errors in it, and as we use XFCE 
on the DJ Touchscreens and Gnome on Digital Soundprocessing (both 
Debian) and both stations give this effect with processing the VU 
display I will start with the RTpriority of Jack, somehow this idea of 
Fred seems to point in the right direction listening and seeing what 
happens, followed by looking deeper into Xorg / Xrun


Jim Stewart schreef op 6-12-2013 21:50:


 Does anybody know whether this is solved by using an external video 
card?


My thoughts would be to first try tweaking features/options for your 
video card in xorg.conf.   What kind of video card is in the computer?


Information can be gotten from:

# lspci

(from a shell prompt, and see what kind of video it has), but better 
yet is to look at the output of  less /var/log/Xorg.0.log.


Note that once you figure out what Xorg video driver is being loaded, 
you should be able to do:


# man video driver

Examples: man intel

  man nouveau

  man radeon

And get a list of options that you can use to try to get more stable 
operation.


Finally, what OS version are you using, what version of Xorg, What 
version of the Linux Kernel?


Also note that many video systems, such as ones that are/were 
considered high performance tend to wear out (or wear out the 
power supplies driving them) because they take lots of power, and make 
lots of heat, so therefore are often short-lived.


PS:  I have been running on a couple if different variations of Intel 
integrated video system from the last few years just fine.




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[RDD] RML

[Rick]

My RD output goes straight into Jack now.

I would like to adjust the volume level just before the news is run and 
is fed over the network to soundprocessing and once again after the news 
is played.


I believe understand and know how to and that I should use SL but what 
does matrix and source represent in this command?


SL matrix source level!

Second question on RML : around 00:00 hour I would like to load the log 
for the next day and skip all overscheduled songs.


First I stop the old log by not executing anything after mach but what 
does mach represent in this command? A number and if so which?


LL mach!

Then I need to load the new log which is called e.g. Production1203 , 
how do I add the 12 and the 03? Is there something like %m%d here?


LL mach [log] [start-line]!

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[RDD] question on RD pulseaudio out

[Rick]

Anybody have experience with this?

On my DJ station I have this setup 
http://rivendell.tryphon.org/wiki/File:D6-rivendell-client-in-jack.png


For now my my audio goes through the mixer (used for live radio because 
of its talkover capabilities) to a windows machine where soundprocessing 
takes place, after which the processed output is streamed with plink / 
pacat to a Linux darkice setup which streams to multiple icecast servers.


During autoDJ time I would like have this DJ stations pulseaudio setup 
sent the audio directly to the windows pulseaudio and soundprocessing 
station and pass the analog mixer endprocessing, anybody have any 
experience on what to do in the standard pulseaudio setup on the RD DJ 
station to have it connect to pulseaudio on Windows (standard soundcard 
in windows settings in, there are more then one in this workstation)?

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Re: [RDD] Serious issue when recording in RDCatch

[Rick]

indeed, if RD and hardware are unchanged, its a hardware defect or if 
repo's are still on some incompatibilty in a Linux update of the distro 
, logically cannot have anything to do with RD



Lorne Tyndale schreef op 7-11-2013 18:38:

Dan,

I don't know if this could be similar to your issue, but I recently ran
into a similar situation on a M-Audio Delta 1010 card (the one with the
rack-mount breakout box).

The machine I had issues with is not running Rivendell - in fact it is a
Windows box set up to stream audio from 3 radio stations.  The inputs /
outputs on the 1010 suddenly stopped working and would either produce
white noise, hum, or silence.  All 3 streams stopped working properly on
the same day.

In the end it turned out to 2 things - inside the breakout box I found a
bad voltage regulator and a bad capacitor.  Replacing them both and my
m-audio 1010 is working fine.

Just something to consider, your difficulty may not be software related.

Lorne Tyndale



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Subject: Re: [RDD] Serious issue when recording in RDCatch
From: dan d...@loudaudio.co.uk
Date: Thu, November 07, 2013 11:17 am
To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org, Pedro Picoto (TSF/tec)
pedro.pic...@tsf.pt


What doesn't make sense is that things have been running fine on the whole up 
until a few weeks ago.  Nothing has changed hardware wise,
apart from the addition of and extra workstation.  I have even re-installed the 
OS, tested all the hardware of the workstations, carried
out the recordings on another computer etc.

It looks like I'm going to have to ditch this software for something better and 
more reliable as it's unpredictability seems to be
getting worse in later versions, not better.  This is a shame, because on the 
whole, Rivendell is very good.  Now that we are on FM and
taking revenue from advertising and sponsorship, I cannot afford for another 
days output to be completely messed up by this software
that suddenly decides it no longer likes the soundcards after a year...

Very angry.

Dan

www.loudaudio.co.uk

On Thu 07/11/13 10:45 , Pedro Picoto \(TSF/tec\) pedro.pic...@tsf.pt sent:

I don't have an concrete answer to your problem. All I can say is
that I've obtained a  full-amplitude white noise when recording VT's
where the VT recording had the same input port number as the playback,for
example:

Playout_0L - Record_0L Playout_0R - Record_0L
Setting the input or output to another port fixed the problem.   I know
that my suggestion didn't fix Dan's problem.
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