Re: CSOff Topic - Can anyone help??
What is pau 'd arco tea for? Nelwyn - Original Message - From: nat2...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 21, 1999 6:13 AM Subject: Re: CSOff Topic - Can anyone help?? Hi Dana, You might investigate alternative medicine especially as follows ESSIAC TEA APRICOT KERNELS VIT-B6 IP6 PAU' D ARCO -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSIntro and Overview FAQ
It seems to be time to repost the FAQ. One of the links is broken, I believe, but it's still a decent start toward and overview of the subject. Be well, all. Mike D. Begin included message Greetings and welcome to the silver-list. This FAQ will give you a brief introduction to the world of Colloidal Silver and an overview by way of a few decent web sites. INTRODUCTION: First, please understand that a *lot* of what you'll find online about colloidal silver (CS) is imprecise, unscientific, and hype. There are almost no controlled studies of any kind. There is precious little objective data to back up even the most fundamental claims. Also, there is a backlash against colloidal silver from debunkers who will do everything in their power to scare you away through exaggeration and fear. They dismiss *all* favorable evidence and results in apparent overreaction to the plentiful CS hype. Their claims do not hold up in the face of readily available facts. Most of the information you receive will be anecdotal testimony, to be taken on faith or common sense until you can verify it yourself. And be forewarned, you'll find yourself rubbing shoulders with advocates of every kind of alternative medicine, from time honored to wildly speculative. What persists, when all is said and done, are the compelling accounts of people who have successfully treated some very serious conditions. They are not trying to sell you anything, but only want others to be helped as they have been. It is these people that have made me want to discover the truth about colloidal silver. A WEB OVERVIEW: A good jumping off point is this article by Peter Lindemann which lays the groundwork and points out some of the mythology that confuses the issue: http://www.elixa.com/silver/lindmn.htm Commercial CS Generators: These sites are good sources of CS information and low voltage direct current CS generators: Elixa, http://www.elixa.com Sota Instruments, http://www.sota-inc.com/index.html SilverGen, http://www.silvergen.com A variety of more sophisticated high-voltage AC and DC generators are offered by: CS Pro Systems, http://www.csprosystems.com/ Build Your Own CS Generators: It's easy and inexpensive to build your own CS generator. Plans and instructions as well as kits and pre-wired units can be found at these individuals' web sites: Mark Metcalf, http://www.silversolutions.com/ Read his Article One and Article Two, linked at the bottom of the left-hand frame Thomas Miller, http://www.bioelectrifier.com/ The link to the CS generator is near the bottom of the page. Bruce Stenulson, http://web.idirect.com/~showcase/althealth/ Bruce is one of our regular contributors and has distilled a lot of what we have learned on the list. Other Information And Product Sources: http://www.wwmagic.com/clearlake/index.html They sell an interesting sounding book by a Dr. Hill. They have excerpts on line. http://www.escape.ca/~revive/ and http://www.xpressnet.com/bhealthy These folks sell a mild silver protien product that is quite carefully made. A lot of good silver info on their site. http://www.wishgranted.com/ The online version of a booklet about CS. The author indulges in a couple of radically speculative scientific theories, but the information on CS is helpful. CONCLUSION: When you browse these sites you will inevitably find conflicting information about different products or methods. Especially, many vendors will claim their products are unique or superior or the only safe and effective CS. Take such claims with a grain of salt! There are also many other sites and resources. In no way do I wish to imply by the inclusion or exclusion of any site that this is the best there is. Nor do I endorse everything, or necessarily anything, you will find at these sites. I hope that exploring these sites will give you an idea of what CS is, how it is made and used, and some of the issues that are being debated among different vendors and experimentors. If you have more questions or need help getting started, feel free to ask for help on the silver-list. The silver-list is a moderated, non-commercial forum for discussion of Colloidal Silver and related topics. We're always willing to help you get started, just ask. The things that we happen to be discussing might not be what you need to know about right now. To get things going in the direction of what you need, please make a post to introduce yourself and *TELL US* what you're looking for. Thank you for reading this far. I hope to get to know you on the list. Be well, Mike Devour silver-list owner Disclaimer: I, MICHAEL DEVOUR, DISCLAIM ANY RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE USE OR MISUSE OF THE INFORMATION, INCLUDING LINKS, PROVIDED ON THIS LIST. EVERY INDIVIDUAL SHOULD OBTAIN COMPETENT MEDICAL ADVICE BEFORE USING THIS INFORMATION. THIS FREE INFORMATION HAS NOT BEEN VERIFIED BY
CSOff Topic: fasting question...
This lemon juice/maple syrup modified fast seems do-able after a couple of days of easing into it. However, is there any way to make the morning salt water cleanse a bit less ghastly tasting? Could I substitute pretzels and beer? GRIN Seriously, though, two level teaspoons of sea salt in a quart of water tastes pretty bad to me! I couldn't choke it all down. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSvortex
You have all seen the spit sink next to the dental chair? The water spins around in a thin sheet. One could accomplish this with a large funnel and a water outlet strategically placed. Magnets could be placed around the outside of the funnel. Come to think of it, one could construct an obstacle course consisting of flumes, miniature falls, and rock obstructions with magnets and full spectrum light exposure along the way. Dennis Lipter plan2t...@aol.com wrote: hi group...does anyone have plans fro building a structured water/ vorte machine which we could make ourselves? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSOff Topic: fasting question...
On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 23:41:09 +, M. G. Devour mdev...@mail.id.net wrote: Seriously, though, two level teaspoons of sea salt in a quart of water tastes pretty bad to me! I couldn't choke it all down. Mike, Hold your breath as you drink (or hold your nose). You won't taste a thing! Chuck Frogs are smart--they eat what bugs them -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSLast plea for help
Carol. thanks for that post. Can you tell how much cs he took (takes), what ppm it is, how often, etc.? That is so wonderful. How long has the improvement lasted? Do you think he is cured? All the details please. Carol M. Ryan wrote: Hello Katrina I have a testimonial for CS. My husband has myasthenia gravis. For approx. eight months he has been totally exhausted, dragging himself up the few steps into the house after work, and making it to the bed for the rest of the night. He started taking CS and within a few days he had enough energy to mow the lawn and stay up till 11 or 12 PM. Carol Ryan - Original Message - From: Katarina Wittich kato...@mindspring.com To: Silver A silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 16, 1999 1:17 AM Subject: CSLast plea for help Hey everyone, well, so far the Uses of CS FAQ is not doing very well. I have received only three stories of uses for CS. That's right, three. So either there really aren't that many uses for cs -- or you guys think that everyone else is sending them in and so no-one has -- or you would prefer to answer people's questions on an individual basis. I just thought it would be easier if there was a FAQ that people could refer to for the basics so that list time would be spent on more detailed questions and answers. So, please, please, send me your testimonials on your personal uses of CS and try to remember to include what amounts of what ppm cs used and for how long. Thanks so much, Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSOff Topic: fasting question...
M. G. Devour wrote: Could I substitute pretzels and beer? GRIN Hey, don't laugh, or in this case, grin. The proper balance of amino-pretzefoldahide and sloshihopsamine enhances the effectiveness of the salt. The proper balance has been determined to be approximately the ratio of 3 to 5 respectively. It works for me, after 3 bags of pretzels and 5 cases of beer, I'm ready for the fast. David -- E-mail to: broompi...@juno.com (no attachments) Otherwise: broompi...@netzero.net Fax to: 1-253-681-1133 __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSLast plea for help
Henry Reed, I don't know what the ppm is. I don't test my CS. I give him 2-4 ounces two times a day. I also have done some research on myasthenia and have been giving him other preparations that work. Astragulas works, cellfood or hydroxygen, A doctor I know believes Dr.Schluzes program will work. I do other things for Don, but right now I can't think of them, I will put together a list and email it off to you. You can also call me at 609 799 4457 . I am into so many formulas for Don, myself and my father that are working and I have not put them down on paper yet, but I will. Carol Ryan - Original Message - From: Henry Reed pj20...@home.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 21, 1999 12:29 AM Subject: Re: CSLast plea for help Carol. thanks for that post. Can you tell how much cs he took (takes), what ppm it is, how often, etc.? That is so wonderful. How long has the improvement lasted? Do you think he is cured? All the details please. Carol M. Ryan wrote: Hello Katrina I have a testimonial for CS. My husband has myasthenia gravis. For approx. eight months he has been totally exhausted, dragging himself up the few steps into the house after work, and making it to the bed for the rest of the night. He started taking CS and within a few days he had enough energy to mow the lawn and stay up till 11 or 12 PM. Carol Ryan - Original Message - From: Katarina Wittich kato...@mindspring.com To: Silver A silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 16, 1999 1:17 AM Subject: CSLast plea for help Hey everyone, well, so far the Uses of CS FAQ is not doing very well. I have received only three stories of uses for CS. That's right, three. So either there really aren't that many uses for cs -- or you guys think that everyone else is sending them in and so no-one has -- or you would prefer to answer people's questions on an individual basis. I just thought it would be easier if there was a FAQ that people could refer to for the basics so that list time would be spent on more detailed questions and answers. So, please, please, send me your testimonials on your personal uses of CS and try to remember to include what amounts of what ppm cs used and for how long. Thanks so much, Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSOff Topic - Can anyone help??
Hi Dana, You might investigate alternative medicine especially as follows ESSIAC TEA APRICOT KERNELS VIT-B6 IP6 PAU' D ARCO KOMBUCHA TEA If I were diagnosed with cancer I would start ingesting these natural curatives as soon as possible. TO YOUR BETTER HEALTH Ron -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSOff Topic: fasting question...
Hi Mike: If you were to use Celtic Sea Salt you would hardly taste it, it works like a very mild laxative. Ted M. G. Devour wrote: This lemon juice/maple syrup modified fast seems do-able after a couple of days of easing into it. However, is there any way to make the morning salt water cleanse a bit less ghastly tasting? Could I substitute pretzels and beer? GRIN Seriously, though, two level teaspoons of sea salt in a quart of water tastes pretty bad to me! I couldn't choke it all down. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS Production
- Original Message - From: gd...@aol.com Hi Gene You seem to be on to it. snip I reversed the polarity on the next run and the deposits came loose and dropped into the bottom of the jar or floated to the top as thin flakes. One question I have is if the polarity is switched every minute, what happens to these deposits? Are they kept in solution as colloidal silver or are they just dropped to the bottom anyway but with little build up on the electrodes? This is a question that I have studiously avoided discussing until now as I do not know the answer for certain and will not know until I build one of these polarity switchers. I suspect the deposits enter the solution as uncharged silver particles, and do not necessarily fall out as the polarity is generally switched before the build up on the cathode is noticable to the naked eye. I put a plastic lid on the jar and left the contents sit without the electrodes in it till the next day. The color turned a rich gold by then. I have no way to judge the PPM of this solution. But what I would like to know is, with the greater surface area of these bars and the distance between them being different with different set ups, can one just use the current strength as a judgment as to the silver being put into solution over a certain time period? Yes but only referenced to a particular set up including water. And by keeping this at a lower rate, control the silver micron size by lowering the blast off rate? I have seen where some have inserted a resistor to limit voltage/amperage in these setups. Does this not slow down the early formation of the solution when the resistance of the same is high? Not really, the initial resistance of distilled water is so high that the addition of 10K ohms or so as a current limiter makes little difference. Would not the control of the current be better as some have suggested along with polarity switching? It would seem to me that this would give better control under the chances of other variables like electrode size, distance apart, solution concentration, etc. Am I correct in this reasoning? In doing this, it would seem that changes in electrode size and other factors could be discounted more. Why... the only difference is in the work done per unit time. As the delivery of current is staggered in these systems, the work takes longer to do (and some may be undone at each polarity reversal). But all other factors remain the same as far as I can see. Thanks for any comments that those of you with more experience can give me. Pleasure. I have been buying my colloidal silver for some time and I use it to control infections as I have a chronic lung disease. I have found that when I get an infection that starts to limit my breathing, by putting colloidal silver in a nebulizer setup, I can help keep these infections down and get relief quickly. Much more quickly than with antibiotics. It has been a very positive help for me. Gene Downey Regards - Ivan. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSPolarity switching
Since polarity switching seems advantageous, has anyone experimented with, or have any thoughts on the use of low voltage 60Hz AC for generating CS? Thank you, Jeff -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS ppm standard
- Original Message - From: Hutt William J (Bill) DLPC hut...@ncsc.navy.mil I've read many e-mails on this forum about achieved ppm, but little on how the parties accomplished and confirmed their results. It would be nice to create a data base of methods in order to create a standard. This is supposedly under way, at least I have made an initial contribution, with more to follow as I find the time. I have seen a couple of e-mails which addressed using a volt-ohm-meter to read ppm. Example: 4usec/cm = 1/250kohms; this measurement appears to be achieved by placing the VOM probes in the CS solution at a spacing of 1cm. Example2: 1ppm = 1.6usec/cm (+/- 20%); If both examples are correct then 5ppm would be equal to 5ppm X 1.6usec/cm = 8usec/cm 8usec/cm = 1/R = 125kohms resistance between the VOM probes which are spaced 1cm apart in the CS solution. If only it were that simple... Specific conductance is defined as consisting of a cell (portion of solution) 1 cubic centimetre in dimension bounded on two opposing sides by electrodes 1 cm square. So you can see that simply placing VOM probes into the solution will not correlate (unless you know the cell constant that these probes would develop). Also, conductivity measurement is generally performed using an AC potential field of some 10K Hz or so to avoid elctrolytic action and electrode polarisation. In other words, one is better off using a cheap conductivity meter. Concerning the examples you quote: 1. 4uS = 1/250K ohms by definition. 1S = 1/1ohm 2. The equivalent weight of silver is 1.08 therefore the ppm as silver ions (unless I am mistaken) is the conductivity measurement x 1.08, not 1.6 as someone reported. I questioned that figure when it was posted but did not recieve a reply (may call into question the accuracy of some commercial CS machines that have been sold). If we can gather data from known ppm solutions using the above method ,a rough standard could be established and everyone would know about what strength of CS solution they have produced. Resistance measurements of 5ppm, 10ppm, 20ppm, and 30ppm should give a well rounded data base. As explained, unless everybody uses the same conductivity (resistance) parameters the results will not transfer from generator to generator. Also there is a question about how reliable these results will be with regard to the particle size of the colloid, although I have had good correlation in my results between conductivity readings and ppm in my clear and light yellow sols, more work needs to be done with darker coloured CS products. For what it is worth the specific resistance for the concentrations you mention are: 5ppm - 215K ohms 10ppm -107.5K ohms 20ppm - 53.7K ohms 30ppm - 35.8K ohms I realize that their are many other factors to consider when trying to measure ppm. The purpose of this e-mail is to try and establish a standard by which everyone can use without purchasing some expensive high tech device. If a simple standard has already been established, what is it? I would like to know if anyone has a recipe for making colloidal silver salve. Thank you, BillH Regards - Ivan. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSNew to group
Dear Anna, Please look at this message in the archives: http://www.escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html?mID=13629 I still have Brooks original posts and will copy to the list if you would like. Ivan - Original Message - From: Anna G Warmuth awarm...@uslink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, 21 October 1999 09:49 Subject: CSNew to group Hi there, I'm new to this group, You all seem a little too advanced for me, but I'm wondering if anyone has used CS specifically for a chronic lung infection. I would like to hear your experiences. Thanks Anna -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSzapper/blood electrifier
Try these links- http://www.action-electronics.com/pgs2/index.htm http://web.idirect.com/~showcase/althealth/ http://www.rarebooks.net/beck/beck.htm I use the Beck blood electrifier regularly and it does work. I believe Beck's blood electrifier is more conveinent and more effective than Clark's zapper. Janine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSRe: New member
HI Mike, Thank you for the welcome. I've included the message below and am looking forward to any and all suggestions. Thank you, Gail Why don't you re-send this message to the list posting address, since the only ones to see it were the list-bot and me, the list owner. Hi, A neighbor introduced my husband and I to CS two weeks ago when I had the flu. It shortened the time I had it. Both of us are interested in prevention, rather than treatment of disease. We take vitamins, eat to maintain healthy bodies and limit our indulgences. We just ordered a generator and made our first batch of CS. I read the dosage as two teaspoons, versus four as therapeutic. Is this daily? As novices, we're learning and would appreciate any information you have. Thank you, Gail Welborn rogg...@aol.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRe: Nicole/Insomnia, Ornithine question
In a message dated 10/20/99 11:50:59 AM Central Daylight Time, kato...@mindspring.com writes: I don't know if this will help with insomnia - but maybe someone else on the list can give us more information. Hulda Clark reccomends taking Ornithine at night while you are on her parasite herbs -- to fight insomnia. I don't believe you will find that Ornithine will help with insomnia much. It is taken for other purposes. I have found both in studying them and in use that taking melatonin and tryptophan is very useful form this condition. The later can be found in taking 5-HTP that can be bought at health food suppliers since the former was outlawed over a very stupid reason by the FDA. If depression is a problem, there are others for that like tyrosine. But you need to get some information on the amino acids. I take a general amino acid combination at the same. Much like the B vitamins, they are cofactors to each other. Gene Downey -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSLast plea for help
Carol, Thanks and I look forward to hearing more. When you have time. Carol M. Ryan wrote: Henry Reed, I don't know what the ppm is. I don't test my CS. I give him 2-4 ounces two times a day. I also have done some research on myasthenia and have been giving him other preparations that work. Astragulas works, cellfood or hydroxygen, A doctor I know believes Dr.Schluzes program will work. I do other things for Don, but right now I can't think of them, I will put together a list and email it off to you. You can also call me at 609 799 4457 . I am into so many formulas for Don, myself and my father that are working and I have not put them down on paper yet, but I will. Carol Ryan - Original Message - From: Henry Reed pj20...@home.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 21, 1999 12:29 AM Subject: Re: CSLast plea for help Carol. thanks for that post. Can you tell how much cs he took (takes), what ppm it is, how often, etc.? That is so wonderful. How long has the improvement lasted? Do you think he is cured? All the details please. Carol M. Ryan wrote: Hello Katrina I have a testimonial for CS. My husband has myasthenia gravis. For approx. eight months he has been totally exhausted, dragging himself up the few steps into the house after work, and making it to the bed for the rest of the night. He started taking CS and within a few days he had enough energy to mow the lawn and stay up till 11 or 12 PM. Carol Ryan - Original Message - From: Katarina Wittich kato...@mindspring.com To: Silver A silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 16, 1999 1:17 AM Subject: CSLast plea for help Hey everyone, well, so far the Uses of CS FAQ is not doing very well. I have received only three stories of uses for CS. That's right, three. So either there really aren't that many uses for cs -- or you guys think that everyone else is sending them in and so no-one has -- or you would prefer to answer people's questions on an individual basis. I just thought it would be easier if there was a FAQ that people could refer to for the basics so that list time would be spent on more detailed questions and answers. So, please, please, send me your testimonials on your personal uses of CS and try to remember to include what amounts of what ppm cs used and for how long. Thanks so much, Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS ppm standard
Elixa.com has a device that is supposed to make cs ointment. I think it's elixa.com. Ivan Anderson wrote: - Original Message - From: Hutt William J (Bill) DLPC hut...@ncsc.navy.mil I've read many e-mails on this forum about achieved ppm, but little on how the parties accomplished and confirmed their results. It would be nice to create a data base of methods in order to create a standard. This is supposedly under way, at least I have made an initial contribution, with more to follow as I find the time. I have seen a couple of e-mails which addressed using a volt-ohm-meter to read ppm. Example: 4usec/cm = 1/250kohms; this measurement appears to be achieved by placing the VOM probes in the CS solution at a spacing of 1cm. Example2: 1ppm = 1.6usec/cm (+/- 20%); If both examples are correct then 5ppm would be equal to 5ppm X 1.6usec/cm = 8usec/cm 8usec/cm = 1/R = 125kohms resistance between the VOM probes which are spaced 1cm apart in the CS solution. If only it were that simple... Specific conductance is defined as consisting of a cell (portion of solution) 1 cubic centimetre in dimension bounded on two opposing sides by electrodes 1 cm square. So you can see that simply placing VOM probes into the solution will not correlate (unless you know the cell constant that these probes would develop). Also, conductivity measurement is generally performed using an AC potential field of some 10K Hz or so to avoid elctrolytic action and electrode polarisation. In other words, one is better off using a cheap conductivity meter. Concerning the examples you quote: 1. 4uS = 1/250K ohms by definition. 1S = 1/1ohm 2. The equivalent weight of silver is 1.08 therefore the ppm as silver ions (unless I am mistaken) is the conductivity measurement x 1.08, not 1.6 as someone reported. I questioned that figure when it was posted but did not recieve a reply (may call into question the accuracy of some commercial CS machines that have been sold). If we can gather data from known ppm solutions using the above method ,a rough standard could be established and everyone would know about what strength of CS solution they have produced. Resistance measurements of 5ppm, 10ppm, 20ppm, and 30ppm should give a well rounded data base. As explained, unless everybody uses the same conductivity (resistance) parameters the results will not transfer from generator to generator. Also there is a question about how reliable these results will be with regard to the particle size of the colloid, although I have had good correlation in my results between conductivity readings and ppm in my clear and light yellow sols, more work needs to be done with darker coloured CS products. For what it is worth the specific resistance for the concentrations you mention are: 5ppm - 215K ohms 10ppm -107.5K ohms 20ppm - 53.7K ohms 30ppm - 35.8K ohms I realize that their are many other factors to consider when trying to measure ppm. The purpose of this e-mail is to try and establish a standard by which everyone can use without purchasing some expensive high tech device. If a simple standard has already been established, what is it? I would like to know if anyone has a recipe for making colloidal silver salve. Thank you, BillH Regards - Ivan. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: CS ppm standard
-Original Message- From: Ivan Anderson [mailto:i...@win.co.nz] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 1999 4:10 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS ppm standard - Original Message - From: Hutt William J (Bill) DLPC hut...@ncsc.navy.mil I've read many e-mails on this forum about achieved ppm, but little on how the parties accomplished and confirmed their results. It would be nice to create a data base of methods in order to create a standard. This is supposedly under way, at least I have made an initial contribution, with more to follow as I find the time. I have seen a couple of e-mails which addressed using a volt-ohm-meter to read ppm. Example: 4usec/cm = 1/250kohms; this measurement appears to be achieved by placing the VOM probes in the CS solution at a spacing of 1cm. Example2: 1ppm = 1.6usec/cm (+/- 20%); If both examples are correct then 5ppm would be equal to 5ppm X 1.6usec/cm = 8usec/cm 8usec/cm = 1/R = 125kohms resistance between the VOM probes which are spaced 1cm apart in the CS solution. If only it were that simple... Specific conductance is defined as consisting of a cell (portion of solution) 1 cubic centimetre in dimension bounded on two opposing sides by electrodes 1 cm square. So you can see that simply placing VOM probes into the solution will not correlate (unless you know the cell constant that these probes would develop). Also, conductivity measurement is generally performed using an AC potential field of some 10K Hz or so to avoid elctrolytic action and electrode polarisation. In other words, one is better off using a cheap conductivity meter. Concerning the examples you quote: 1. 4uS = 1/250K ohms by definition. 1S = 1/1ohm 2. The equivalent weight of silver is 1.08 therefore the ppm as silver ions (unless I am mistaken) is the conductivity measurement x 1.08, not 1.6 as someone reported. I questioned that figure when it was posted but did not recieve a reply (may call into question the accuracy of some commercial CS machines that have been sold). If we can gather data from known ppm solutions using the above method ,a rough standard could be established and everyone would know about what strength of CS solution they have produced. Resistance measurements of 5ppm, 10ppm, 20ppm, and 30ppm should give a well rounded data base. As explained, unless everybody uses the same conductivity (resistance) parameters the results will not transfer from generator to generator. Also there is a question about how reliable these results will be with regard to the particle size of the colloid, although I have had good correlation in my results between conductivity readings and ppm in my clear and light yellow sols, more work needs to be done with darker coloured CS products. For what it is worth the specific resistance for the concentrations you mention are: 5ppm - 215K ohms 10ppm -107.5K ohms 20ppm - 53.7K ohms 30ppm - 35.8K ohms I realize that their are many other factors to consider when trying to measure ppm. The purpose of this e-mail is to try and establish a standard by which everyone can use without purchasing some expensive high tech device. If a simple standard has already been established, what is it? I would like to know if anyone has a recipe for making colloidal silver salve. Thank you, BillH Regards - Ivan. Ivan, I appreciate your responce. I have only made 4 CS solutions, two which were questionable( thru them out) one which I think was 5ppm(looked for CS cloud waited 5 more minutes stopped process, solution was clear and stayed clear). The set up was 30VDC current limited to 1.1mamps with 27kohm resistor. The process load current started at .25ma and ended with .79ma. Total time 26min. The last attempt set up was 27VDC current limited to 1ma. Looked for CS cloud waited 40 minutes(going for golden color) stopped process. Load current started at .25ma and stopped at .81ma. Noticed solution slightly clouded but not golden. I haven't the slightest idea what the ppm is. Silver was spaced 1/2 inch apart, 3 1/2 inches long. Silver is flat 3/16 inch wide. I would like to know what you setup is, mabey I can duplicate the results that you have had. Thanks again BillH -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSRe:Vessel Geometery
Hi Everybody! I am really curious if anyone has experimented with different shapes of production vessels. Tall and skinny? Short an large diameter? It occurred to me that instead of the electrodes being vertical, what might be the advantage of them being horizontal? Just for example, if we used a glass pie pan and filled it to an inch high and the electrodes were L shaped with the connections to the foot of the L, and the long part of the L submersed. Do we have any thoughts? David -- E-mail to: broompi...@juno.com (no attachments) Otherwise: broompi...@netzero.net Fax to: 1-253-681-1133 __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRe: Nicole/Insomnia, Ornithine question
Just my two cents worth... L-Tryptophan is pretty good for helping you sleep. A lot of people don't know that L-Tryptophan is created or activated (I'm not sure which) when you heat milk. Have you ever heard of people having a cup of hot chocolate before bedtime or if they wake up in the middle of the night to help them get back to sleep? It seems that some of those old wives tales have a bit of truth to them :) Yours in health, James Allison Allisons Apothecary http://apothecary.hypermart.net Home of the $29.95 Colloidal Silver Generator - Original Message - From: gd...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com; kato...@mindspring.com Sent: Thursday, October 21, 1999 6:26 AM Subject: Re: CSRe: Nicole/Insomnia, Ornithine question In a message dated 10/20/99 11:50:59 AM Central Daylight Time, kato...@mindspring.com writes: I don't know if this will help with insomnia - but maybe someone else on the list can give us more information. Hulda Clark reccomends taking Ornithine at night while you are on her parasite herbs -- to fight insomnia. I don't believe you will find that Ornithine will help with insomnia much. It is taken for other purposes. I have found both in studying them and in use that taking melatonin and tryptophan is very useful form this condition. The later can be found in taking 5-HTP that can be bought at health food suppliers since the former was outlawed over a very stupid reason by the FDA. If depression is a problem, there are others for that like tyrosine. But you need to get some information on the amino acids. I take a general amino acid combination at the same. Much like the B vitamins, they are cofactors to each other. Gene Downey -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRe: Nicole/Insomnia, Ornithine question
Yes, I use to use it myself, it was great. Unfortunately it cut too much into the sales of over the counter sleeping pills, so when a Japanese company screwed up theie batch, it was an opportunity for the FDA to remove another inexpensive health resource from the shelves. Marshall James Allison wrote: Just my two cents worth... L-Tryptophan is pretty good for helping you sleep. A lot of people don't know that L-Tryptophan is created or activated (I'm not sure which) when you heat milk. Have you ever heard of people having a cup of hot chocolate before bedtime or if they wake up in the middle of the night to help them get back to sleep? It seems that some of those old wives tales have a bit of truth to them :) Yours in health, James Allison Allisons Apothecary http://apothecary.hypermart.net Home of the $29.95 Colloidal Silver Generator - Original Message - From: gd...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com; kato...@mindspring.com Sent: Thursday, October 21, 1999 6:26 AM Subject: Re: CSRe: Nicole/Insomnia, Ornithine question In a message dated 10/20/99 11:50:59 AM Central Daylight Time, kato...@mindspring.com writes: I don't know if this will help with insomnia - but maybe someone else on the list can give us more information. Hulda Clark reccomends taking Ornithine at night while you are on her parasite herbs -- to fight insomnia. I don't believe you will find that Ornithine will help with insomnia much. It is taken for other purposes. I have found both in studying them and in use that taking melatonin and tryptophan is very useful form this condition. The later can be found in taking 5-HTP that can be bought at health food suppliers since the former was outlawed over a very stupid reason by the FDA. If depression is a problem, there are others for that like tyrosine. But you need to get some information on the amino acids. I take a general amino acid combination at the same. Much like the B vitamins, they are cofactors to each other. Gene Downey -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CS kill anthrax
Discussing the biological attack on New York this news site states: One colloidal silver generator can make enough silver for dozens of families. And colloidal silver, for those of you who don't know, kills anthrax. http://www.y2knewswire.com/19991018.asp If you want it, grab it, they update every day or two and then articles cannot be retreived unless you subscribe to their service. marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSArticle on HV colloidal silver
There is a new article on HVAC vs low voltage: High-Voltage Colloidal Silver Trying to make your own shelf-stable colloidal silver? The DC silver generators don't have the voltage to do the trick, but the high-voltage AC units claim to have solved it. Are they really worth $900? And are they easier or more difficult to use than the low-end DC units? Click for details... CS at http://www.y2knewswire.com/ . Unfortunately you have to be a member to read this article, and I am not a member. If anyone here is a member could they grab the article and tell me what it says. Thanks, Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: CSPolarity switching
Tried it with 48Vac, 60Hz, current limited with two 15kohm resistors, one on each voltage leg. Initial load current .56ma, after 1 hour, still .56ma and no sign of CS cloud, stopped process. Silver electrodes were spaced 1/2 apart. Electrodes were around 3/16 wide and flat mabey 1/32 thick. I belive there is a reference to 180Vac at this address. http://www.csprosystems.com/ BillH -Original Message- From: Jeffrey A. Madore [mailto:k...@uconect.net] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 1999 2:57 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSPolarity switching Since polarity switching seems advantageous, has anyone experimented with, or have any thoughts on the use of low voltage 60Hz AC for generating CS? Thank you, Jeff -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSOff Topic - Can anyone help??
On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 01:29:04 EDT, frineha...@aol.com wrote: Where can one buy a Don Croft Zapper?? URL?? Can someone suggest locations for purchase of zappers? Or instructions for making your own?? Thanks in advance for any help. C'mOn folks! Help yourself to help yourselves! 3 minutes on a search engine using Don Croft Zapper keywords came up with: http://www.mind.net/aware/parasite.htm If it's that easy, why ask someone to do it for you? No charge, you're welcome Chuck Half the failures in life result from pulling in one's horse when it is leaping. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRe: Nicole/Insomnia, Ornithine question
On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 08:13:09 -0700, James Allison apothec...@home.com wrote: Yours in health, James Allison Allisons Apothecary http://apothecary.hypermart.net Home of the $29.95 Colloidal Silver Generator James, I thought your generator used to be $49.95. Did Marsha bring consumer pressure to bear? Chuck Here at First National, you're not just a number --you're two numbers, a dash, three more numbers, another dash, and another number -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSArticle on HV colloidal silver
Marshall, I don't have the article you referred to but I have an HVAC generator with an almost identical batch tank and electrode setup as the one pictured in the article. I can tell you that producing product with my setup is very easy, fast and non problematic. I pour a half gallon of distilled water into the batch tank place the cover/electrode setup on the tank connect two wires and turn the unit on. In a few minutes tyndall is evident! I let the unit run for an hour or two and I have colloidal silver. No stirring, no wiping electrodes, and no polarity switching necessary as the AC does it automatically. As far as quality of product, I don't know as I have not had it tested. Dennis Lipter Marshall Dudley wrote: There is a new article on HVAC vs low voltage: High-Voltage Colloidal Silver Trying to make your own shelf-stable colloidal silver? The DC silver generators don't have the voltage to do the trick, but the high-voltage AC units claim to have solved it. Are they really worth $900? And are they easier or more difficult to use than the low-end DC units? Click for details... CS at http://www.y2knewswire.com/ . Unfortunately you have to be a member to read this article, and I am not a member. If anyone here is a member could they grab the article and tell me what it says. Thanks, Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSRe: [CS kill anthrax]
Does it really kill anthrax? Does anybody know for sure? If so, what should be the regimen? And how strong should CS be? Roman Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com wrote: Discussing the biological attack on New York this news site states: One colloidal silver generator can make enough silver for dozens of families. And colloidal silver, for those of you who don't know, kills anthrax. http://www.y2knewswire.com/19991018.asp If you want it, grab it, they update every day or two and then articles cannot be retreived unless you subscribe to their service. marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.amexmail.com/?A=1
Re: CSSTRUCTURED WATER
Hi Listers, A very comprehensive book is Vibrational Medicine, by Richard Gerber M.D.,ISBN 1-879181-28-2. Over 600 pages of small print and a 300 book reading list and 15 pages of small print index. Dr. Gerber covers it all from healing to frequency domains, subtle planes of matter, psychic healing, chakras, crystals, holistic healing, paradigm shifts and more. Its well worth your time to look at it. :-) Brings it all together. Bless you Bob Lee //- \ \ Marshall Dudley wrote: Thanks, this is a great article: ?The structuring of water has an increased pH and the ultraviolet spectrophotometer shows increased ultraviolet absorption because of increased hydrogen bonding. Well, I have seen this with our spectrophotometer, but never understood what was going on. Things are now coming together as to how all this plays together. Using the spectrophotometer, I have seen similar, but different, absorption patterns for distilled water exposed to magnetics, crystals, energized gold plated copper rings (dolphin rings) and rods. Also we see similar pattern changes to water when a person with healing touch (Christian healing, reiki, hands on healing etc.) holds the water or directs healing energy toward the water.Thus it appears that many of the miracles I have seen with hands on healing could be grounded in scientifically provable restructuring of the water in the area that is undergoing healing. If this is the case then that would explain why one can feel an energy flow until the healing is complete, the water aborbs the energy until it is fully structured, then no longer aborbs it, thus cutting the flow off. Now it all makes sense to me. Once again, thanks. Marshall -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CS[Fwd: CSIntestine, Pt 7]
:-) -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net ---BeginMessage--- Greetings wonderful and worthy pervaders of the CS art, LYMPHATICS, con`t An important function of the lymphatic system is the preservation of the bodys *homoeostasis*. That is the balance between hydrostatic and osmotic pressure. The ability of the lymph system to return proteins back to the blood via the lymph system prevents serious unbalance of the homoeostasis. A serious unbalance can cause death within a day if the lymph system stops functioning. The lymphatic system preserves fluid balance by collecting about 10% of the interstitial fluid (tissue fluid) and the protein that accumulates in it. Once it enters the lymph capillaries, the interstitial fluid is called lymph by most researchers.The walls of the lymph capillaries are composed of endothelial cells that overlap slightly. When tissue fluid accumulates, it presses against these cells,pushing them inward like tiny swinging doors that can swing in only one direction. This permits large proteins and particles to enter the lymph capillaries. As fluid accumulates within the lymph capillary, these swinging cell doors are pushed closed. Filariasis, a parasitic infection caused by a larval nematode (transmitted by mosquitoes) also disrupts lymph flow. The adult worms live in the lymph veins, blocking lymph flow,and causing tremendous swelling. The term *elephantiasis* has been used to describe the disease. The flow of the lymph from the tissues is maintained chiefly by three factors. Differences in pressure: We may consider that the lymphatics form a system of vessels leading from a region of high pressure, the tissues, to a region of low pressure, the interior of the large veins of the neck. Muscular movements and valves: Contractions of the skeletal muscles compress the lymph vessels and force the lymph on toward the larger ducts. The numerous valves prevent a return flow in the wrong direction. The flow of lymph from resting muscles is small in quantity, but during muscular exercise and massage it is increased. the flow of chyle is greatly assisted by the peristalic and rhythmic contractions of the muscular coats of the intestines. Pulsation waves moving over the enormous number of minute arteries existing everywhere act to push ahead the lymph from valve to valve,and on to the larger lymphatics. Respiratory movements: During each inspiration the pressure on the thoracic duct is less than on the lymphatics outside the thorax, and lymph is sucked into the duct. During the succeding expiration the pressure on the thoracic duct is increased, and the contents,prevented from escaping by the valves below, are pressed out into the innominate veins. As noted before, there are many lymph nodes located in the lymphatic system. These play an important role in the body`s defense against disease. They produce LYMPHOCYTES and ANTIBODIES, they also serve as efficient filtering devices that remove bacteria and other foreign particles from the lymph fluid. This is why the blood is never allowed to approach the outer layers of the membranes. Any fluid approaching the outer layers must be filtered and disinfected before entering the blood again. Lymph nodes are located all over the body. The major congregations of nodes are at the neck,armpits,groin,elbows and knees. These are strategic positions for removing bacteria. Each lymph node contains many cavities or *sinuses* ,where the lymph spreads out and slows down. These sinuses are lined with macrophages ( giant phagocytic cells)that engulf the bacteria. The lymph may take out so many bacteria that they swell up themselves. A sign that the body is fighting an infection is the swelling of the lymph nodes. One thing that lymph nodes trap is cancer cells that have broken loose from the cancer site. Unfortunately cancer cells are not destroyed by the nodes, merely trapped in a new spot where they can grow and spread further. Bless you Bob Lee -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net ---End Message---
CSStructured Water/Freezing/deuterium
I have just returned and scanned the info on deuterium with fascination. I didn't see any references/sites on freezing and restructuring...did I miss them? Supposedly unstructured water has lost electrons...does freezing replace them? Also some oxygen products are based on deuterium sulfate. Cellfood and Hydroxogen. Scary to think... Thoughts? ~^^V^^~ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRe: [CS kill anthrax]
I have heard that the fellow that was arrested for obtaining anthrax as a terrorist then later released had indeed obtained anthrax and found that CS kills it very effectively. I heard that the FDA found out he was going to go public with this information and had to shoot him down to prevent this information from getting out. I don't know if it is true, but I suspect it is. marshall Roman wrote: Does it really kill anthrax? Does anybody know for sure? If so, what should be the regimen? And how strong should CS be? Roman Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com wrote: Discussing the biological attack on New York this news site states: One colloidal silver generator can make enough silver for dozens of families. And colloidal silver, for those of you who don't know, kills anthrax. http://www.y2knewswire.com/19991018.asp If you want it, grab it, they update every day or two and then articles cannot be retreived unless you subscribe to their service. marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.amexmail.com/?A=1
Re: CSLew Fong, Lucida Handwriting 14pt. Now tell
Dear Anna, You wrote: ...if any one has used cs specifically for a chronic lung infection. Chronic lung infection covers a vast territory in the respiratory system. Its etiology is multifactorial. However,there is a nerve called the pneumo-gastric nerve that supplies both the stomach [ gastric] and lungs [pneumo]. Since the two anatomical structures are innervated by the same parental nerve [pneumo-gastric nerve], physiologically, what affects the lungs will by reflex,also affect the stomach. Though colloidal silver is actively absorbed in the gaster[stomach], its spill-over into the intestine may eliminate bacterial colonies indiscriminately,the good and the bad,causing a disruption in the finely-tuned ecological symbiosis existing in the gut. This gives rise to multiple gastro-intestinal complaints. The toxins synthesized and accumulated as a result of the microbial warfare in the gut, are contributory to the chronicity of the lung infection.The colloidal silver,thus ,has become a double-edge weapon : it can heal and at the same time also kill, even though,as a reputable anti-microbial. The solution to this iatrogenic manifestation,is the optimization of colloidal silver dosage and the perodic abstinence of colloidal silver intake to allow recolonization of the gut bacteria,with supplementation of enzymes,probiotic and wholesome water.The fallacy of over treatment with colloidal silver in any chronic infection on prolonged consumption cannot be ignored. With zapping gaining popularity among the lay, the phenomenon of electroporation cannot be underestimated. Electroporation is effected by applying a current to the the body system. The cell reacts by widening the pores in the cellular membrane which allow easy absorption of chemicals intracellularly which may result in toxic build-up. This little digression I hope will give you an insight into the plus and minus of a very much talked about preparation,colloidal silver. In retrospect, I can recollect many anecdotes where I have noted cases where there were concomitant gastric problems presenting only with complaints of chronic cough. The cough just would not go away until the gastric problems were investigated and treated. Coughing with bringing up of excessive phlegm need not be nessary a chest infection unless the phlegm is discoloured. In a number of cases, it turned out to be gastritis due to dietary indiscretion. Colloidal silver is a great help under such circumstances. There are many instances whereby alerting, presenting symptoms have been made chronic because of our inattention or unawarness of their reflex origin The pneumo-gastric chronicity is such a case, relevant to our discussion. The suggestion of colloidal silver for this symptom complex is admirable .But sometimes, its therapeutic reputation is better preserved by its omission rather than by its commision till all the presenting complaints are addressed. The chronic lung infection may show amelioration with regular intake of colloidal silver. The body is not built for prolonged chemical alimention. From clinical experience, the side-effects are initially subclinical. The haematological profile and urinalysis may show some evidence. I have great success for chronic respiratory tract infection with 10 ppm colloidal silver prescribed to patients, young and old inclusive but for not more than two weeks. At least, a routine haematological profile and urinalysis should be done periodically for those who are on colloidal silver. This precautionary procedure is mainly to safeguard the healthcare consumer or the patient against any possible side-effect of colloidal silver and its early detection. With regards Lew Anna G Warmuth wrote: -Original Message- From: Lew Fong How fh...@tm.net.my To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com; Anna G Warmuth awarm...@uslink.net Date: Wednesday, October 20, 1999 4:26 PM Subject: Re: CSNew to group Hi Anna, Teach me the handwriting in your posting. Then only , I will tell. With regards Lew Anna G Warmuth wrote: Hi there, I'm new to this group, You all seem a little too advanced for me, but I'm wondering if anyone has used CS specifically for a chronic lung infection. I would like to hear your experiences. Thanks Anna Anna G Warmuth wrote: Hi there, I'm new to this group, You all seem a little too advanced for me, but I'm wondering if anyone has used CS specifically for a chronic lung infection. I would like to hear your experiences. Thanks Anna Anna G Warmuth wrote: Hi there, I'm new to this group, You all seem a little too advanced for me, but I'm wondering if anyone has used CS
Re: CSLew Fong, Lucida Handwriting 14pt. Now tell
Dear Anna, [ Sorry, I have corrected the typos] You wrote: ...if any one has used cs specifically for a chronic lung infection. Chronic lung infection covers a vast territory in the respiratory system. Its etiology is multifactorial. However,there is a nerve called the pneumo-gastric nerve that supplies both the stomach [ gastric] and lungs [pneumo]. Since the two anatomical structures are innervated by the same parental nerve [pneumo-gastric nerve], physiologically, what affects the lungs will by reflex,also affect the stomach. Though colloidal silver is actively absorbed in the gaster[stomach], its spill-over into the intestine may eliminate bacterial colonies indiscriminately,the good and the bad,causing a disruption in the finely-tuned ecological symbiosis existing in the gut. This gives rise to multiple gastro-intestinal complaints. The toxins synthesized and accumulated as a result of the microbial warfare in the gut, are contributory to the chronicity of the lung infection.The colloidal silver,thus ,has become a double-edge weapon : it can heal and at the same time also kill, even though,as a reputable anti-microbial. The solution to this iatrogenic manifestation,is the optimization of colloidal silver dosage and the perodic abstinence of colloidal silver intake to allow recolonization of the gut bacteria,with supplementation of enzymes,probiotic and wholesome water.The fallacy of over treatment with colloidal silver in any chronic infection on prolonged consumption cannot be ignored. With zapping gaining popularity among the lay, the phenomenon of electroporation cannot be underestimated. Electroporation is effected by applying a current to the the body system. The cell reacts by widening the pores in the cellular membrane which allow easy absorption of chemicals intracellularly which may result in toxic build-up. This little digression I hope will give you an insight into the plus and minus of a very much talked about preparation,colloidal silver. In retrospect, I can recollect many anecdotes where I have noted cases where there were concomitant gastric problems presenting only with complaints of chronic cough. The cough just would not go away until the gastric problems were investigated and treated. Coughing with bringing up of excessive phlegm need not be necessarily a chest infection unless the phlegm is discoloured. In a number of cases, it turned out to be gastritis due to dietary indiscretion. Colloidal silver is a great help under such circumstances. There are many instances whereby alerting, presenting symptoms have been made chronic because of our inattention or unawarness of their reflex origin The pneumo-gastric chronicity is such a case, relevant to our discussion. The suggestion of colloidal silver for this symptom complex is admirable .But sometimes, its therapeutic reputation is better preserved by its omission rather than by its commision till all the presenting complaints are addressed. The chronic lung infection may show amelioration with regular intake of colloidal silver. The body is not built for prolonged chemical alimentation. From clinical experience, the side-effects are initially subclinical. The haematological profile and urinalysis may show some evidence. I have great success for chronic respiratory tract infection with 10 ppm colloidal silver prescribed to patients, young and old inclusive but for not more than two weeks. At least, a routine haematological profile and urinalysis should be done periodically for those who are on colloidal silver. This precautionary procedure is mainly to safeguard the healthcare consumer or the patient against any possible side-effect of colloidal silver and its early detection. With regards Lew Anna G Warmuth wrote: -Original Message- From: Lew Fong How fh...@tm.net.my To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com; Anna G Warmuth awarm...@uslink.net Date: Wednesday, October 20, 1999 4:26 PM Subject: Re: CSNew to group Hi Anna, Teach me the handwriting in your posting. Then only , I will tell. With regards Lew Anna G Warmuth wrote: Hi there, I'm new to this group, You all seem a little too advanced for me, but I'm wondering if anyone has used CS specifically for a chronic lung infection. I would like to hear your experiences. Thanks Anna Anna G Warmuth wrote: Hi there, I'm new to this group, You all seem a little too advanced for me, but I'm wondering if anyone has used CS specifically for a chronic lung infection. I would like to hear your experiences. Thanks Anna Anna G Warmuth wrote: Hi there, I'm new to this group, You all seem a little too
Re: CS kill anthrax
Hi all, Marshall Thanks for the y2knewswire url, good info. How can we make informed decisions without good information? In my search for good information, whether related to Codex Alimentarius, or the Bill of Rights, I came upon these urls, from University of Texas: http://www.engr.utexas.edu/cofe/quotes.htm as well as http://www.engr.utexas.edu/cofe/governance/ although they are not related specifically to CS, the info is totally relevant because it tells how we got to the point of having to worry about having to kill anthrax. Sincerely, Brita b...@gate.net Freedom.Independence -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSfibromyalgia
Does anyone have any fibromyalgia success stories? If so please e-mail me off-line. Best Regards, Robert Ratliff SE Tenn. bobratl...@iname.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSArticle on HV colloidal silver
Okay here it is in a nut shell, for full store send me snail mail addy and I'll mail it, can't post full story on list They bought the high end Ultra Professional Colloidal Silver System the Manufacturer claims high voltage process created smaller silver particles than a LVDC unit.This has two important side effects: 1.The smaller particles are more easily assimilated into the cells of the body. 2.The particles stay in suspension indefinitely rather than falling to the bottom on the container and making sludge. They found this to be true, unlike DC unit that generated quite a bit of sludge, HV unit created NO sludge, and noticed it used a lot less silver. They noticed it didn't Oxidize the silver like DC unit ( black crud on the silver) Area they did not like Complicated documentation First time use extremely difficult, slightest error in set up will cause unit to overheat WILL NOT RUN OFF BATTERIES, must have CLEAN AC power. They also stressed you must use steam distilled water for any CS production or you could generate poison. Fred is this correct? __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSRe: Lew, vortex question
Hi Lew, Do you need to use the cognac bottles to create the vortex? In case I can't find them, how long and thin would the neck have to be and does it have to have a lip.? Could you do it as David suggested with one smaller bottle pouring into a larger? Does the strength or size of the magnets you attach make a difference? And, most importantly, what is the difference in usage of this structured water from the magnetized one that I've been making per your instructions of standing the bottles on a magnet for about ten hours? Would you reccomend one over the other for regular drinking? Also, I wanted to ask you -- someone on the list felt that combining north and south water would cancell out their charges? What do you think of that? Oh, and is there any damage to the magnetized water if I leave it sitting on it's magnet for longer than 12 hrs? My usuall millions of questions -- hope you don't mind. Tkae care, Katarina Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 03:24:23 +0700 From: fhlew fh...@tm.net.my To: silver-list@eskimo.com, wong...@aol.com Subject: Re: CSVortex made easy Message-ID: 380e24f6.be8f1...@tm.net.my Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Wong, You wrote: Wouldn't just swirling water in a coke bottle to create a vortex...or it's just to pass by the magnets? I use swan-necked bottles labelled N and S to make magnetized water and I use either one to create a vortex. A Cognac Otard 0.7 litre bottle has a long and slender neck with a pulp stopper. The Cognac Otard bottle comes in two colours: Transparent and Deep Green. I rather you choose the transparent one. My buddies gave me a carton of Cognac Otard bottles- empty ones ! See if you can get a pair of this type If you have a N and a S magnet and two slender neck bottles with over-hanging lips like that of the Cognac Otard bottle, you are on to create a turbulent vortex. Firstly, fix the magnets 3'' above the broadest part of the bottle. I usually fill the bottle with distilled water leaving the upper two and a half inches empty. I add a teaspoonful of colloidal minerals to the bottle of distilled water. I leave it for 10 minutes for revitalization while I get ready the other bottle.You will notice that the circular borders of the bottle's mouth overhang the slender neck of the bottle by 1/2 . So when you invert the filled bottle with fixed magnets over the waiting, empty bottle and the two properly aligned and balanced, what you see is something looking very much like an elongated hourglass. You will see Nature's forces at work creating a vortex of churning water above and water rushing pass the magnets to splash into the receptacle bottle below. Honestly, I do not know which direction I must swirl because I am living near the equator. I just simply make a swirling motion a few times and down it. I really hope you can get hold of two discarded Cognac Otard bottles for your experiment and use. These shapely bottles make attractive ornaments. With regards Lew -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSArticle on HV colloidal silver
Sorry, lost my connection before finishing about article: Design flaws drops wires into water when you open top and you must fish them out of your product. Salts off skin will raise conductivity of water and ruin whole batch. Another problem, the unit in the generation process tends to heat the water, causing evaporation, lowering the water level causing gap between silver and water to be more than advised and causing overheating and voiding warranty. They ended up dunking silver deep in water because the prescribed 3/16th gap to hard to get correct. Wrap up: Advantages .Uses less silver, highly effecient .Does not oxidize the silver, results in cleaner final porduct .Creates colloidal silver with a long shelf life .Has built in timer .Rugged construction, no moving parts except the fan Disadvantages .Very expensive (900.00 ) .10,000 volts can be dangerous if you are not careful .Poor documentation .More difficult to set up and operate than DC unit .Will not run off batteries. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSRe: Mike/salt water flush
Hey Mike, the first day I drank the salt water I could barely force myself to do it -- but each day afterward it got much easier and didn't taste as bad. Don't know why. Katarina Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 23:41:09 + From: M. G. Devour mdev...@mail.id.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSOff Topic: fasting question... Message-Id: 199910210341.xaa05...@mail.id.net Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT This lemon juice/maple syrup modified fast seems do-able after a couple of days of easing into it. However, is there any way to make the morning salt water cleanse a bit less ghastly tasting? Could I substitute pretzels and beer? GRIN Seriously, though, two level teaspoons of sea salt in a quart of water tastes pretty bad to me! I couldn't choke it all down. Be well, Mike D. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSRe: Ornithine/Gene
Hi Gene, thanks so much for the information. I do take melatonin when I need to sleep and it's very effective -- I also suggested it to Nicole. I guess the ornithine only works to help remove the ammonia byproducts from dying parasites which might keep you awake -- as per what I understand from Hulda Clark. I'd be curious to know what amino acid combo you take and what you think of it. Take care, Katarina Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 09:26:48 EDT From: gd...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com, kato...@mindspring.com Subject: Re: CSRe: Nicole/Insomnia, Ornithine question Message-ID: 0.61bbea8f.25406...@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/20/99 11:50:59 AM Central Daylight Time, kato...@mindspring.com writes: I don't know if this will help with insomnia - but maybe someone else on the list can give us more information. Hulda Clark reccomends taking Ornithine at night while you are on her parasite herbs -- to fight insomnia. I don't believe you will find that Ornithine will help with insomnia much. It is taken for other purposes. I have found both in studying them and in use that taking melatonin and tryptophan is very useful form this condition. The later can be found in taking 5-HTP that can be bought at health food suppliers since the former was outlawed over a very stupid reason by the FDA. If depression is a problem, there are others for that like tyrosine. But you need to get some information on the amino acids. I take a general amino acid combination at the same. Much like the B vitamins, they are cofactors to each other. Gene Downey -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRe: Mike/salt water flush
Katarina Wittich wrote: Hey Mike, the first day I drank the salt water I could barely force myself to do it -- but each day afterward it got much easier and didn't taste as bad. Don't know why. Katarina Destroyed your taste buds? : Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: CSRe: [CS kill anthrax]
Remember the flap about the terrorist Larry Wayne Harris, who was busted by the FBI in AZ for having anthrax in his possession? He is a registered professional microbiologist and was testing both CS and the Rife generator for efficacy against anthrax. I think he said it works, but he recommends that you be on a maintenance dose before exposure/inoculation. Somewhere there is a book he published about just plain folks dealing with biowar. It was advertised in AnitShyster, which has a web site. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: Roman [SMTP:r_ro...@usa.net] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 1999 12:26 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:CSRe: [CS kill anthrax] Does it really kill anthrax? Does anybody know for sure? If so, what should be the regimen? And how strong should CS be? Roman Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com wrote: Discussing the biological attack on New York this news site states: One colloidal silver generator can make enough silver for dozens of families. And colloidal silver, for those of you who don't know, kills anthrax. http://www.y2knewswire.com/19991018.asp If you want it, grab it, they update every day or two and then articles cannot be retreived unless you subscribe to their service. marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.amexmail.com/?A=1
Re: CSRe: OT Kitty water
Katrina, thanks for the kitty help! Deborah __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: CSArticle on HV colloidal silver
I'm not Fred, but I agree with what you reported the article to say except for the difficulty of use. The instructions are lucid and error-free. If you can read and carefully follow simple directions it is a snap. I perceive the instructions as thorough and detailed, but not overly complicated. HV CS is a mighty complex physical state, and for an amateur to be able to make it at all is quite an achievement. The overheating will be caused by maladjustment of the height of one or two of the electrodes above the surface of the water. If this goes on long enough it will cook---as in destroy---the transformer. This is easy to avoid, by placing the arc bars very close to the surface of the water. The 'pull and push' adjustment of that height by tweaking a gold-plated spring(s) is a minor pain-in-the-ass, but other configurations which have been tried for making the adjustment easier have caused a change in quality of the silver. After you do it a few times, it gets easier to estimate the amount of force necessary to get the right dangle. Some steam distilled water may be too pure for the unit to make its optimum yield [concentration] of sol. The maker of the device recommends a TDS reading of about 0.8 PPM, or equivalent mS in the start water. The unit can be run off batteries if you use a quality inverter. This does bump up the overall cost, but will enable you to make very high quality sol when the grid is---for whatever reason---not. Makers claims re: particle size are backed up with TEM flicks. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: Deborah IN TEXAS [SMTP:thean...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 1999 5:04 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CSArticle on HV colloidal silver Okay here it is in a nut shell, for full store send me snail mail addy and I'll mail it, can't post full story on list They bought the high end Ultra Professional Colloidal Silver System the Manufacturer claims high voltage process created smaller silver particles than a LVDC unit.This has two important side effects: 1.The smaller particles are more easily assimilated into the cells of the body. 2.The particles stay in suspension indefinitely rather than falling to the bottom on the container and making sludge. They found this to be true, unlike DC unit that generated quite a bit of sludge, HV unit created NO sludge, and noticed it used a lot less silver. They noticed it didn't Oxidize the silver like DC unit ( black crud on the silver) Area they did not like Complicated documentation First time use extremely difficult, slightest error in set up will cause unit to overheat WILL NOT RUN OFF BATTERIES, must have CLEAN AC power. They also stressed you must use steam distilled water for any CS production or you could generate poison. Fred is this correct? __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: CSArticle on HV colloidal silver
If you pinch the little spring hooks which support the arc bars [short length of about 16 gauge Ag wire with a loop in one end and the remainder gently twisted one around another] closed just enough to slip the wire loop over, there are fewer-to-no dropped arc bars. Not a big deal anyway, I get mine out with a bit of SS wire formed into a hook. It takes about 10 seconds. If you are minimally careful there is no need to jiggle them off anyway... Any system will be affected by salts from skin. Wash well before handling the electrodes in any system; or use rubber gloves. Poor documentation? Could you be more specific? James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: Deborah IN TEXAS [SMTP:thean...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 1999 5:26 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CSArticle on HV colloidal silver Sorry, lost my connection before finishing about article: Design flaws drops wires into water when you open top and you must fish them out of your product. Salts off skin will raise conductivity of water and ruin whole batch. Another problem, the unit in the generation process tends to heat the water, causing evaporation, lowering the water level causing gap between silver and water to be more than advised and causing overheating and voiding warranty. They ended up dunking silver deep in water because the prescribed 3/16th gap to hard to get correct. Wrap up: Advantages .Uses less silver, highly effecient .Does not oxidize the silver, results in cleaner final porduct .Creates colloidal silver with a long shelf life .Has built in timer .Rugged construction, no moving parts except the fan Disadvantages .Very expensive (900.00 ) .10,000 volts can be dangerous if you are not careful .Poor documentation .More difficult to set up and operate than DC unit .Will not run off batteries. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: CSRe: Mike/salt water flush
Very good Marshall. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [SMTP:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 1999 5:56 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CSRe: Mike/salt water flush Katarina Wittich wrote: Hey Mike, the first day I drank the salt water I could barely force myself to do it -- but each day afterward it got much easier and didn't taste as bad. Don't know why. Katarina Destroyed your taste buds? : Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: CSArticle on HV colloidal silver
I took the article to make all references to the specific brand that they had purchased, I myself have a brand new unit purchased from Fred and just needed to understand the reference to steam distilled water. Deborah __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: CSArticle on HV colloidal silver
I am just the messenger, passing on some of the article for someone who did not have access. I would have listed it all except the All rights reserved thing, did not want to infringe on copyright. Deborah __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSOff Topic - Can anyone help??
Great to help with yeast problems Sparrow What is pau 'd arco tea for? Nelwyn - Original Message - From: nat2...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 21, 1999 6:13 AM Subject: Re: CSOff Topic - Can anyone help?? Hi Dana, You might investigate alternative medicine especially as follows ESSIAC TEA APRICOT KERNELS VIT-B6 IP6 PAU' D ARCO -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRe: [CS kill anthrax]
- Original Message - From: James Osbourne, Holmes a...@trail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 21, 1999 7:56 PM Subject: RE: CSRe: [CS kill anthrax] Remember the flap about the terrorist Larry Wayne Harris, who was busted by the FBI in AZ for having anthrax in his possession? He is a registered professional microbiologist and was testing both CS and the Rife generator for efficacy against anthrax. I think he said it works, but he recommends that you be on a maintenance dose before exposure/inoculation. Somewhere there is a book he published about just plain folks dealing with biowar. It was advertised in AnitShyster, which has a web site. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: Roman [SMTP:r_ro...@usa.net] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 1999 12:26 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: [CS kill anthrax] Does it really kill anthrax? Does anybody know for sure? If so, what should be the regimen? And how strong should CS be? Roman Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com wrote: Discussing the biological attack on New York this news site states: One colloidal silver generator can make enough silver for dozens of families. And colloidal silver, for those of you who don't know, kills anthrax. http://www.y2knewswire.com/19991018.asp If you want it, grab it, they update every day or two and then articles cannot be retreived unless you subscribe to their service. marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.amexmail.com/?A=1
Re: CSRe: [CS kill anthrax]
OOP's sorry,wrong button.. - Original Message - From: James Osbourne, Holmes a...@trail.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSChronic Lung Infections
Thank you everyone who has responded to my post, I have some questions about using CS, but first I'll tell you what I would be using it for. I am 27 years old, and have Cystic Fibrosis. I am in good health right now, mostly because I avoid dr.s like the plague! :-) I have a fairly resistant pseudomonus (sp?) infection which I received in the early 80's from my brother (who also had CF) This summer I started experimenting with herbal remedies like fenugreek, which has significantly improved my lungs (and quite possibly returned the sense of smell which I lost in 1988). In late Sept I was on Cipro (antibiotic) for my pseudomonus because I turned myself in with bronchitis. That did seem to beat the infection back some, but 3 weeks later it is alive well. The bronchitis left me with some scarring in my bronchial tubes (I'm assuming because of the blood I was coughing up with it) and even still there is some blood streaked occasionally in the phlegm. I've got some questions about using CS and I'm hoping you all can help me find the answers. 1.How do you know what concentration of CS you are using, whether you generate it yourself or buy it bottled? 2.Are there ways (cultures etc.) that you can determine if the CS is actually going to be effective against the bacteria you want it to kill off? 3.Do you need to replace the good bacteria's in your body as with conventional antibiotics? (acidophilus etc.) 4.What is the risk of developing Argyria from using CS? I am thankful for all advice, although, Lew, you made my head spin with that last one, and I think I may have to re read it in small doses to be sure I fully digest it!
