Re: CSCS and stomach bacteria
I am confused again. If CS kills good bacteria as well as bad, then, why is it prescribed for treating candida? Betsy, I don't think most people find it killing their good bacteria in the amounts they usually use. Our respected Terry Chamberlain, a practitioner, regularly drinks a pint or more (from memory), and it was only when he drank well over that that he noticed any problems with the intestinal flora. Once he brought down his intake to his normal levels the apparent effect on the 'good bacteria' went away. This in my own words from memory. Rowena You can also use virgin coconut oil for candida. And homeopathic remedies. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCS and stomach bacteria
normal amounts of cadida are good for the body. Candida overgrowth causes problems.( too much refined and processed food) From: Betsy Coffey latimergi...@yahoo.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSCS and stomach bacteria Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 22:42:43 -0800 (PST) I am confused again. If CS kills good bacteria as well as bad, then, why is it prescribed for treating candida? __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSClear CS
Voltage controls ion velocity. A higher voltage runs through the water easier at a higher current. Current controls ion discharge rate. If voltage stays constant, current increases something like exponentially as more and more ions are released, making the water more and more conductive, pulling more and more current according to the ever increasing rate of ion discharge. [Runaway] At first, in very pure water, the current rise rate is very slow for quite a while. A plot of the current rise looks almost like a flat line which gradually goes higher up the chart till suddenly it appears to rise very fast to nearly vertical. Where you start on the flat area makes a huge difference to where you stop on the vertical going area if a clock is all you have. Heating the water increases the initial conductivity of the water putting you further along the current rise plot at the start. Any difference at the beginning makes a big difference at the end if only time is used to determine when to stop. Putting an ammeter in series with the electrodes allows you to monitor where on the current curve you are as current is directly related to conductivity so long as the electrodes are always placed the same way and the voltage stays constant. Constantly checking with a conductivity or TDS meter will do the same thing. If you stabilize current to a set value by decreasing voltage ...or increasing distance between the electrodes...as you go to prevent it from rising, then the ion discharge rate stays constant and a clock can be used accurately...but there is still a variable 'ramp up' time till the generator is pulling it's set current and even that flattish part of the curve can vary by hours with only a slight difference in the water. [Run up to?] If you use a voltage comparator chip in the circuit, you can make the generator stop itself wherever you set the reference voltage of your choice... aka Auto off...making watching a clock and ammeter unnecessary to reach a given desired conductivity. This is how the 777, the Silvergen , Boiphysica, Colloidaltech [a new comer] and the Silverpuppy/Silverwell works. A CS Pro machine and the standard 3 nines types are constant voltage generators. The CS Pro instructions to make the baking soda buffering solution is all about starting at the same spot so a timer will work within a decade of accuracy...but it's still like judging the velocity of a bullet with a golf cart speedometer towards the end and making silver carbonate isn't exactly what we want to do. Add in a few degrees of temperature difference at the start, in the same water and it amounts to mega degrees of PPM difference at the end. A constant voltage generator 'can' make nice CS and do it quite fast up to a point, but you have to watch it very closely, preferably with some instruments [and a clock ain't one of them], or one batch being anything like the next batch is pure luck. The saving grace in all this is that pure luck does OK with dosing intuition based on taste buds and faces made in a mirror. Taste buds will give you a PPM gauge range amounting to 'weak', 'strong' and 'rocket fuel' . The dosing difference is in the size and frequency of glugs accordingly and the cost of each glug is less than a penny. Color has almost nothing to do with PPM. Ode At 10:57 AM 12/21/2005 -0600, you wrote: Morning Terry, Thanks for the details. At 08:16 AM 12/21/2005, you wrote: Later, I discovered that during the summer, when the room is warmer, I can only brew it 50-55 minutes and still end up with clear CS. During the winter, when the room is cooler, I usually brew it 70-75 minutes. I estimate the ppm to be 15-20 ppm, which is all the strength you need (actually, it's probably overkill, I'm sure 10 ppm is just fine). Likely many people overlook the temperature factor. I notice some water variation that changes things a little. I use near the same time factor that you use for one gallon batches. I thought you were using 100 VDC with a system that you built. Even though I have used 70 VDC I now use 52 VDC. Instinct, observation, and attention takes the place of many of the technical factors mentioned on this list. When a new person starts making CS, often they do not understand the principles which means they never will become good at it. They fail to study enough and exert the effort required to start learning, just like new computer users. One of my computer customers called and asked a simple question. I told him he should have learned that the first week he had a computer. Many of these simple facts about CS is likewise true. They should have learned the basics the first week they started making CS. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address
Re: CSH2O2 and EIS
Once you know you have a cold, it's already too late to not have one, so no, CS won't cure that, but it can lessen the time and severity of the clean up a great deal. Or, CS helps make a cold not get worse. Most of the symptoms are suffered after the cold is gone. CS will help a lot with that beat with a lead pipe feeling very fast, but the guy with the pipe already messed up the living room by the time you noticed he was there. The sooner you start killing of the baddies, the less crud they'll put into your system to eliminate later with runny nose and cough. They replicate at a certain rate and CS kills them at a certain rate depending on how much silver gets to where it needs to be and how fast your immune system responds. The further along the cold is, the more baddies there are and the faster the overall replication rate will be. I find that sipping and inhaling CS mist CS all day long every day, every time I am reminded to do so by the cold ...till I forget to... lessens the time an already established cold or flu has an effect down to about 1 to 2 days with only minor sniffles afterwards...IF, I start at the very first sign that a cold exists. Starting 2 days late doesn't do much. Best bet is to bar the door before the pipe swinging guy gets in. Ode At 11:20 AM 12/21/2005 -0600, you wrote: Oh, ok. Will cs help to get rid of a cold once it has taken hold? Thank you. Shelli - Original Message - From: Nancy DeLise nancym...@prodigy.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 11:52 PM Subject: Re: CSH2O2 and EIS As soon as you feel cold symptoms you need to take about an ounce of CS every hour. Gargle with it, spray it in your eyes, put a drop in each nostril, put a drop in each ear. Three times a day is not enough at the onset of a cold. Nancy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.2/208 - Release Date: 12/20/2005 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.2 - Release Date: 12/20/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.3 - Release Date: 12/21/2005
Re: CSRe: CS I believe I've been misdiagnosed........with Moblock type 2 when
http://www.afibbers.com/forum/list.php?f=6 This site is a forum for Irregular Heartbeat/Atrial Fibulation refered to as AF.Tons of info -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH2O2 and EIS
Use the type that comes in a plastic squeeze bottle. Ode At 05:59 PM 12/21/2005 +, you wrote: Hello, some time back someone posted information about using a Saline solution mist for nasal cleansing using CS in substitution to the solution found in the bottle when purchased. To my suspicion all the nasal mist spray bottles are sealed so that pressure can be maintained in the bottle. This is what was told to me by the pharmacist. With this being said. How would one go about dumping the saline solution and replacing it with CS? There must over 15 different brands and all are manufactured the same way. Regards, ernie From: Shelli me...@insightbb.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSH2O2 and EIS Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 11:22:41 -0600 I did start misting my face and tried to breath it in sporadically but I wasn't sure with the H2O2 if I should get it in my eyes. I just wish I could get rid of the cough. It is keeping me, and probably my family, up at night. I will try to remember to mist myself when coming from somewhere. That sounds like a great idea. Thanks. Shelli - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 10:02 AM Subject: Re: CSH2O2 and EIS And...if you mist your eyes and hands (and maybe ears) with straight CS, inhaling the mist also, every single time you are out in public you probably won't ever catch another cold. I mist as soon as I get back to my car from any shopping excursion. I am forever grateful to whoever it was who told me about misting as stopping the bugs at the entrance. The only cold I've had in 3 years is the one I caught when I got very sloppy and was forgetting to mist more often than not. Many women who use makeup are very reluctant to do this, but I've found it doesn't mess things up if you mist from a few inches away from your face and just blink your eyes into the mist. It isn't necessary to spray from 2 inches away, nor is it necessary to wet the eyes/face enough to cause makeup to run. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.2/208 - Release Date: 12/20/2005 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.2 - Release Date: 12/20/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.3 - Release Date: 12/21/2005
RE: CSRE: ***Possible Spam*** Re: CSRe: Heating CS
On 12/22/2005 4:38:46 PM, Ode Coyote (odecoy...@alltel.net) wrote: Being alive is what you do when heaven gets boring? ..like taking a vacation from perfection. Oh! That's GOOD! I'm snagging it!!! Chuck -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSEIS + Oxylene for COPD
As many on the list know, I have an advanced case of Emphysema and am trying various means to slow the decomposition of my lungs. I use a Omron nebulizer in which I add my 12PPM EIS than inhale the mist for about 10 mins. AM/PM. I came across this other product at Walgreens called Oxylene which indicates that it is a Nitric Oxide (NO) enhancer. It is suppose to improve oxygen delivery to the cells, promote max. circulation and vascular blood flow, and also increase physical sta- mina and endurance. Does anyone on the list have any knowledge of this product? Is NO a safe substance? One of the main ingredients is Arginine alpha Ketoglu tarate(akg). Thank you, Pete PS between nose cancer and Emphysema I am having a wonderful Christmas!G
Re: CSEIS + Oxylene for COPD
Pete, It is a patented OTC product that is strictly regulated by the FDA. That is all that I know about that, However, check out this: H202 works wonders on a multitude of health problems. It does so by increasing tissue oxygen levels. It's obvious that our oxygen needs are not being met. Several of the most common ailments now affecting our population are directly related to oxygen starvation. Asthma, emphysema, and lung disease are on the rise, especially in the polluted metropolitan areas. Cases of constipation, diarrhea, intestinal parasites and bowel cancer are all on the upswing. I found this at: http://www.frequencyrising.com/hydrogen_peroxide.htm and their homepage has much more that you might want to check out. There is also: http://www.glycoresource.com Best Wishes, Bill Keen panamp...@aol.com wrote: As many on the list know, I have an advanced case of Emphysema and am trying various means to slow the decomposition of my lungs. I use a Omron nebulizer in which I add my 12PPM EIS than inhale the mist for about 10 mins. AM/PM. I came across this other product at Walgreens called Oxylene which indicates that it is a Nitric Oxide (NO) enhancer. It is suppose to improve oxygen delivery to the cells, promote max. circulation and vascular blood flow, and also increase physical sta- mina and endurance. Does anyone on the list have any knowledge of this product? Is NO a safe substance? One of the main ingredients is Arginine alpha Ketoglu tarate(akg). Thank you, Pete PS between nose cancer and Emphysema I am having a wonderful Christmas!G
Re: CSCold extremities
I have the same experience, I use niacin 6,000 mg per day and 6,000 mg of Cayenne pepper 90,000 HU (heating units) each. Also I use 1,000 mg of Ginkgo Bilobo per day all the dose are split in 1/2 am and pm . I would suggest working up to this amount, and the no flush niacin is less irritating, but I take the normal flush kind and like it...It works for me. I am in my 8th year doing this , with great results. Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. In a message dated 12/21/2005 5:00:15 PM Central Standard Time, epa...@sympatico.ca writes: Does anyone here have experience with ? Condition where extremities such as fingers and toes lose circulation and become cold. Ernie Ernie: I have been pained with the problem for 20 some years. There doesn't seem to be a safe way of eliminating the problem. A lot of years ago I took a medicine that was supposed to help. It merely made my pulse and BP rise. I didn't feel any relief from the cold. I just buy and wear better gloves and good socks. I just try to stay warm...I live in central Illinois. :-) I'm going on to 72 years young in March. I guess I've proved one can live with the problem. There seems to be Raynaud's phenomenon and Raynaud's syndrom. Either, if the Insurance Companys get wind of itone can be slighted for getting insurance. But being on MedicareI don't care in my case. Thom
Re: CSEIS + Oxylene for COPD
I appreciate the info Bill,but the web site says to contact the person who told you about GlycoNutrition so I am asking you. I saw where they mentioned Asthma and having much success which is somewhat related. If you want Email personally since it is off-subject and apparently the company doe not want much exposure. Thanks, Pete
RE: CSRE: ***Possible Spam*** Re: CSRe: Heating CS
At 11:40 AM 12/21/2005 -0700, you wrote: Hi Coyote, You wrote: Radiation vibes aren't good or bad. They have no intent or moral preference at all. The same can be said of cancer. ## That is correct. Lately, it's being recognized that a person changing their vibes [using various methods including laugh therapy] makes cancer go into remission. It's also statistically obvious that living in a sea of carcinogens doesn't cause cancer...it provides increased opportunities, triggers, so to speak, but one can still develop cancer without all those carcinogens. If vibes could be quantified, a statistical model could probably be tallied to show a co-relation. Toss in 'unconscious' intent to boot. [What you don't know that you don't know about yourself.] Being alive is what you do when heaven gets boring? ..like taking a vacation from perfection. Ode Jim -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 5:47 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRE: ***Possible Spam*** Re: CSRe: Heating CS Some people are just plain immune to bad vibes. Everything is how it's perceived, not how it's projected. Besides, we live in a sea of microwave and other radiation. You will take that as you 'will'. You have no other choice. Radiation vibes aren't good or bad. They have no intent or moral preference at all. Some say that water holds memory and radiation changes that memory. OK, so re-educate it. It's still water. [YOU are the one that 'runs deep'] Your memory isn't dependent on someone elses'. [It barely recognizes itself] ode At 09:14 AM 12/20/2005 -0700, you wrote: According to Swiss Scientist Hans Hertel, microwave ovens cause literally bad vibes to be imposed on the substances. -Original Message- From: V [mailto:vzo...@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 1:15 AM To: Kelburn Koontz Subject: ***Possible Spam*** Re: CSRe: Heating CS It is a myth about puttnig metal object in a microwave. It can be done if you jsut follow a few simple rules. Spoons are ok but forks are not. and any metal can not be anywhere near the wall of the microwave. you can put an opened metal can of food in there to heat it and it will work it jsut takes a lot longer becaues the microwaves only come in the can from the top. and then also you have to completely remove the top of the can. Being what the rules are for metal in a microwave I wolud not put CS in there. the basic rule is that any metal must be smooth and contiguous like a spoon is an example but a fork has tines where the metal has spaces and sparks will jump between the tines and caues a problem and thin foil is also a problem as is any ceramicware with metalic paint on it. Take care, V That is a good question. I know one is not supposed to put metal objects in the microwave. How about teeny tiny metal objects suspended in water? Kel -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.1/207 - Release Date: 12/19/2005 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.1 - Release Date: 12/19/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.2 - Release Date: 12/20/2005 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.2/208 - Release Date: 12/20/2005 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.2 - Release Date: 12/20/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.3 - Release Date: 12/21/2005
Re: CS
I think the problem with adding too much is that it forms a ratio between the molecular ionic silver and the crystaline particulate silver, my guess is about 2:1. When you drink it much of the ionic becomes silver chloride, which precipitates out (except for about .8 ppm), and if you have a excess of H2O2 it will convert much of the remaining colloid to molecular ionic which will then precipitate out. This has not been tested but is strictly theory. It should be rather easy to test using H2O2, salt and EIS with a laser though. Marshall Jim Holmes wrote: My H2O2 is many months old, and 35% w/o preservative. How critical is the amount? I will toss the old stuff and get new if it is critical. Thanks to all. Jim -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 11:56 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS That would be for 3% USP like you get in a drug store for topical use. Marshall Jim Holmes wrote: Can someone clarify for me the concentration of H2O2 to use when putting 2 drops in 8 ounces. Should it be 3.5% or 35%. TIA, Jim -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 5:23 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS At 09:53 AM 12/20/2005 -0600, you wrote: Please give me some clarification Is H2o2Topical Hydrogen Peroxide? I have heard of people putting Hydrogen Peroxide in the CSare they using Topical Hydrogen Peroxide that you put on external sores? ## That is correct..off the shelf 3%. Ode I start making my CS at home and have been drinking it for about 6 months...I feel that the CS goes through my body to fast too and would like to get a deep affect from the CS. ## Elimination rate IS quite fast..which also makes it very safe to use a LOT, like quarts even, at least for a while. Ode Thanks for your help Gwlynda -- From: Nancy DeLise [mailto:nancym...@prodigy.net] Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 11:34 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE I took 16- 20 oz. of my home made Cs for 2 1/2 years. When I learned about Sovereign Silver, I took 2 teaspoons four times a day. Now that I am about 90 % cured of my MS, I take 8 oz. of my home made in the morning and 2 teaspoons of Sovereign Silver two times a day.(MS is a virus and I would never stop completely) As far as the H2o2, I put 1 drop of H2o2 into 2 oz. of CS and let it sit for about 15 minutes. The H2o2 interacts with the silver and causes the particles to break up into much smaller particles, and more of it gets utilized by the body rather then just going thru quickly. Nancy - Original Message - From: mailto:granb...@msn.comGreg Ball To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 11:09 PM Subject: Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE Nancy - I may have missed this in another post, but how much sovereign did you take, and did you combine that with homemade? Also, how did you make your homemade silver? Lastly, why mix the silver with the H202? I have an ozone machine and can drink ozone water. Would this be the same because it ads oxygen? or is there something about the peroxide thats unique? Does it combine somehow with the silver? Thanks so much for sharing! No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.1 - Release Date: 12/19/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.2 - Release Date: 12/20/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH2O2 and EIS
Fill with a syringe and needle? Squeeze flat, submerge orifice in CS and let go. [the reverse of emptying it, squeeze bulb style] ode At 07:08 PM 12/21/2005 +, you wrote: My apologizes.. They are plastic flatish squeeze bottles. They are all sealed and the tops cannot be removed. Does any From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSH2O2 and EIS Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 13:54:24 -0500 epa...@sympatico.ca wrote: Hello, some time back someone posted information about using a Saline solution mist for nasal cleansing using CS in substitution to the solution found in the bottle when purchased. To my suspicion all the nasal mist spray bottles are sealed so that pressure can be maintained in the bottle. This is what was told to me by the pharmacist. With this being said. How would one go about dumping the saline solution and replacing it with CS? There must over 15 different brands and all are manufactured the same way. They use to use squeeze bottles. If they are using factory pressurized bottles now, see if you can find an older style that you squeeze to make it spray. Those are easy to refill. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.2/208 - Release Date: 12/20/2005 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.2 - Release Date: 12/20/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.3 - Release Date: 12/21/2005
CSCS misting
hi do i have this right all i need a spray bottle w/ CS? spray it on my face rub in after leaving work, stores, etc.. or is there more involved that what i stated? thanks alot chad
CSCS: Scleroderma supps.PABA,VIT.C,DMAE
These supplements should be available at any good H.F. store;except in Canada where DMAE is banned by Health Canada,[US equivalent is FDA]. HaroldNo virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.3/209 - Release Date: 12/21/2005
Re: CSClear CS
Terry Chamberlin wrote: tia said, ok Terry... so how do we go about making crystal clear CS/EIS? can i expect to obtain such a product by using a colloidal master 777? For me, making CS is a simple matter. I don't worry about what the ppm is, or particle size, I simply try to brew it as long as I can and still end up with clear CS. With my own device (a Metabolic Solutions CSB10), I set up ten 1-gallon pickle jars with one quart of CS in each jar. I fill up each jar the rest of the way with DW, hang the silver wires down inside in each jar and brew for one hour. I discovered that one hour was the right brewing time by brewing a batch for 30 minutes. It was crystal clear. Next batch I brewed it 40 minutes, then 50 minutes, and kept gradually increasing the brewing time each batch until I got a yellow batch (which I and my family drank). The last clear batch happened to be 60 minutes. If I brewed it 70 minutes, it turned yellow. Later, I discovered that during the summer, when the room is warmer, I can only brew it 50-55 minutes and still end up with clear CS. During the winter, when the room is cooler, I usually brew it 70-75 minutes. I estimate the ppm to be 15-20 ppm, which is all the strength you need (actually, it's probably overkill, I'm sure 10 ppm is just fine). What is your setup? I would not expect the brew time to change significantly if you are using constant current. If you are using constant current, then aggregation vs temperature may be more temperature dependent than I had originally thought. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS and stomach bacteria
First thing is, there is no such thing as good bacteria and bad bacteria. The closest you can come is gram positive and gram negative, or aerobic and anaerobic bacteria. Bacteria have no morals, they simply do what they do, which is attempt to live and multiply in whatever environment they are in. Salmonellia are a necessary part of nature in breaking down food and thus normally perform a good function, but they can produce toxins that can cause a person a lot of distress as well. E Coli are absolutely essential for proper disgestion in the intestines, but if they end up in the blood stream or vagina can wreck havoc. Yeast is useful for making bread, wine and beer, but you don't want it growing in a vagina. Usually the difference between good bacteria and bad bacteria is not the bacteria itself, but rather where they are living. Good bacteria are bad if in the wrong place. Now in many cases bacteria that aerobic are preforming a good function, yet under conditions of restricted oxygen will switch to anaerobic, and when they do that they produce toxins. Once again, they are the same bacteria, but whether they are good or bad depends on you definition of those terms and their environment. So the killing power needs to not depend on the actual bacteria, but on the environment they are in. That is exactly what CS does, it is very effective if it has mobility, IE in the blood stream, stomach and mouth, but almost completely ineffective if in a gel or solid matrix where it has no mobility, like in a healthy intestine. Only if one has the runs would it be effective, and in that case you want it to kill what is in the intestines anyway, you can always repopulate it later when you have cured the runs. This is not to say that CS is not useful topically, while it is wet it has mobility, and when it dries, it is typically deposited onto the surface of the skin or wound where it is needed. Marshall Betsy Coffey wrote: I am confused again. If CS kills good bacteria as well as bad, then, why is it prescribed for treating candida? __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBottles - A Good Source
Looks like a good source for sure. Thanks ! I have used: Western Plastics Corp. Your one source for containers! We fill orders small enough to fit in your saddle bag and large enough to fill a wagon train. Western Plastics Corp. Or Call Us Toll Free! 1-866-253-1163 Mail to: P.O. Box 56637 Phoenix, AZ 85079-6637 Showroom: 2925 W. Whitton Ave Phoenix, AZ 85017 What's New! Home | Information | Product Lines | FAQ | 1001 Uses Online Brochure | What's New | Orders | Links | E-mail Us! If you experience any problems with this site, please contact Webmaster Last Modified: Sunday, 04-Jan-2004 20:14:16 EST Copyright 2000 Western Plastics Inc. All rights reserved. Tel Tofflemirre Dewey, AZ. - Original Message - From: Michael Mahoney To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 11:25 PM Subject: CSBottles - A Good Source Several years ago I purchased some very nice small bottles with atomizers from: Sunburst Bottle Company 4500 Beloit Drive Sacramento, CA 95838 A good place to start: http://www.sunburstbottle.com/site/index.html They have nearly any size bottle you may want. Glass bottles and jars in various colors. Plastic bottles and jars in various colors. The atomizer on the smaller glass boston round bottles I purchased work very well for misting CS into the eyes. They have no minimum order. Disclamer: I have no affiliation with this company other than as a satisfied customer. Michael -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com mapbut.gif
Re: CSRE: ***Possible Spam*** Re: CSRe: Heating CS
From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 10:38 AM Being alive is what you do when heaven gets boring? ..like taking a vacation from perfection. That struck me as so right I just had to save it in my collection of quotes! Thanks, Ode Sharon -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH2O2 and EIS
Ode Coyote wrote: Once you know you have a cold, it's already too late to not have one, so no, CS won't cure that, but it can lessen the time and severity of the clean up a great deal. That probably depends on how aware you are of your body's messages. A cold for me almost always starts off with a scratchy throat. I have maybe 3 or 4 hours to start dosing with CS, and if I do so, sipping a little CS every few minutes over a couple of hour period, I can consistently stop the cold dead in it's tracts. Sometimes it will try to come back 6 or 8 hours later, and sometimes it won't, but if it does, I simply repeat the sipping of CS, and after trying to come back no more than 3 or 4 times, which gives the body plenty of time to identify it and build up a little immunity to it, it will no longer come back. On top of that, I become immune to that particular variety just like I had caught it. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS misting
Don't know that you need it, but misting keeps me from catching colds and flus. I am very susceptible to them. No need to rub it in. . do i have this right all i need a spray bottle w/ CS? spray it on my face rub in after leaving work, stores, etc.. or is there more involved that what i stated? thanks alot chad -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: CS and stomach bacteria
This brings up a question, are there any aerobic bacteria in mammal intestines? sol Marshall Dudley wrote: First thing is, there is no such thing as good bacteria and bad bacteria. The closest you can come is gram positive and gram negative, or aerobic and anaerobic bacteria. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSurgent reply...silver build up...
Does anyone know if silver builds up in the liverthe lady at the local health shop said not to take it for more than 10 days as it builds up in the liverany comments??? Debbie - To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre.
Re: CSEIS + Oxylene for COPD
AOL EmailHave you looked into and can afford intravenous Hydrogen peroxide for your emphysema and cancer? For more information, do a google search on intravenous hydrogen peroxide Kallie Miller - Original Message - From: panamp...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 9:33 AM Subject: CSEIS + Oxylene for COPD As many on the list know, I have an advanced case of Emphysema and am trying various means to slow the decomposition of my lungs. I use a Omron nebulizer in which I add my 12PPM EIS than inhale the mist for about 10 mins. AM/PM. I came across this other product at Walgreens called Oxylene which indicates that it is a Nitric Oxide (NO) enhancer. It is suppose to improve oxygen delivery to the cells, promote max. circulation and vascular blood flow, and also increase physical sta- mina and endurance. Does anyone on the list have any knowledge of this product? Is NO a safe substance? One of the main ingredients is Arginine alpha Ketoglu tarate(akg). Thank you, Pete PS between nose cancer and Emphysema I am having a wonderful Christmas!G
CSBruce Lipton Biologist. Incredible stuff
Jeff Rense Program www.rense.com http://www.rense.com/ , 12 21-05 9:00 PM, probably 9:30. Electromagnetic fields from the brain control gene expression. Sensory input reprograms the gene expression determined by senses and thoughts and feelings. They discussed earlier Russian work. Dish with same culture medium but separated by glass wall. Cell cultures on both sides, but isolated physically. One side is inoculated with virulent pathogen. The other side will die without actual inoculation; via energy. Same technique used with CA, and normal cells become CA when CA put on the other side. www.brucelipton.com http://www.brucelipton.com/ Jim
RE: CSCS misting
Hi Sol Chad, Thanks to each of you for your generous sharing of useful CS info for us seekers! I use and recommend the handy spray-mist bottle to spray on face and hands when dealing with problem people and at bedtime, I spray CS mist into open eyes to refresh them, in each nostril alternating 3 times with the opposite nostril closed and sniffing, and twice into each ear (I'm told that the ear is the source of colds flu). Read my Site Blogspot for 3 FREE pages of CS Uses and 1 page of CS Favorites to which I refer often. Let me know if I can be of help. Merry Christmas and the most Happy Prosperous New Year ever! Sincerely, ___ Richard Harris, 58 Year FL Pharmacist 448 West Juniata Street Clermont, FL 34711 http://www.rharrisinc.com http://www.seasilver.com/reh http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 12:08 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS misting Don't know that you need it, but misting keeps me from catching colds and flus. I am very susceptible to them. No need to rub it in. . do i have this right all i need a spray bottle w/ CS? spray it on my face rub in after leaving work, stores, etc.. or is there more involved that what i stated? thanks alot chad -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScs as an injection ?!?
k!! Im too much of a bay to experiment this way...and im trying to be wise with my health not ruin it..but it was something that crossed my mind...think ill stick tot he cs sprays and taking it orally... Debbie :-) Nancy DeLise nancym...@prodigy.net wrote: First I would not use home made CS and second,I do not think I would add the sodium-chlorideWhy sodium? I do not believe it should be mixed with anything. The Argentyn23 which is what professionals use for IV's tells you NOT to dilute it with anything. Let us know what you do and what the outcome is Nancy - Original Message - From: Peter To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 3:58 AM Subject: CScs as an injection ?!? Oki.. My friend coming next week and his have injection for diabetes ! ! Going to mix cs with sodium-chloride ..(hope i survive) ! ? ! Just kidding !! Try to my WIFE ( lol ) he he ... /peter - No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.1/206 - Release Date: 12/16/2005 - To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre.
Re: CSRe: CS and stomach bacteria
hi Sol...with regard to aerobic bacteria ..acidophiles bacteria comes to mind..I remember reading that it is found on everything live we eat that is freshly killed or picked and raw...plant life is sprayed and domestic animals are treated in many cases with antibiotics and they don't care what type of bacteria or flora it is ...it kills it all...so E coli for one gets to be dominant in the colon of the host infected.. Norm __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSEIS + Oxylene for COPD
In a message dated 12/22/05 8:34:23 AM Central Standard Time, panamp...@aol.com writes: between nose cancer and Emphysema I am having a wonderful Christmas! Aww Pete -- I'm sorry that you're dealing with all of this, Christmas or not. I hope that you find solutions for both problems, and live many more unfettered years. MA
RE: CSurgent reply...silver build up...
Hi Debbie, I believe that properly made CS is safe for Anyone, of Any age or size, for Any problem or condition taking Any kind of medication or treatment at any dose daily for many years without Any side reactions. Safe to take up to 1/2 gallon daily (I don't recommend this large amount--wasteful, but safe) in divided doses--the only side reaction if you have a bad infection, is a Herxheimer reaction until the stool bladder can eliminate the killed pathogens. I take my first dose in the morning: 1 oz 10ppm CS + 2 oz Gatorade (as an electrolyte which can take CS deeper into body tissues than CS can go alone) in a juice glass--holding a mouthful in mouth for 2 minutes, then swallow repeat until glass is empty. Holding each dose in mouth for 2 minutes, allows many CS colloids to be absorbed under tongue directly into the blood stream seeking pathogens to kill, then swallow CS to be digested through the system. After the first dose, I use CS alone if I feel something coming on, I recommend taking a mouthful every 30 minutes to 1 hour thruout the day till you no longer feel the threat. Read my Site and Blogspot and find FREE 3 pages of CS Uses and 1 page of CS Favorites to which I refer often. Let me know if I can be of help. Sincerely, ___ Richard Harris, 58 Year FL Pharmacist 448 West Juniata Street Clermont, FL 34711 http://www.rharrisinc.com http://www.seasilver.com/reh http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: debbie cozens [mailto:debbiecoz...@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 12:16 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSurgent reply...silver build up... Does anyone know if silver builds up in the liverthe lady at the local health shop said not to take it for more than 10 days as it builds up in the liverany comments??? Debbie -- To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre.
Re: CSRe: CS I believe I've been misdiagnosed........with Moblock type 2 when
In a message dated 12/21/2005 11:43:42 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, faithstfran...@hotmail.com writes: flutterings in my chest for the past week Marian: It sounds like you have the same thing I have from time to time. I don't go to medical doctors, because I've tried that, and they want to give me a scary diagnosis (which is just a latin name for the symptoms, which I already know). They also offered to prescribe medication for the rest of my life. However, I discovered, and you may also, that the problem is intermittent and associated with certain allergens which affect the heart meridian. In my case (not necessarily yours), I found that there were three different items which caused the same symptoms as you describe. Muscle testing identified them, and after the allergens were removed, or treated, the problem ceased immediately. The allergens were formaldehyde in new unwashed curtains by the bed (symptoms only when in bed), various kinds of wood, including pressed wood with formaldehyde, and estrogen imbalance. My present bout is probably due to apple allergy. Think back to when the present episode started. Did you start to breathe, eat, touch, wear or drink anything different than before. Stress may play a part as well, just putting you over the edge with respect to allergy. By the way, I tried Faith's remedy suggested for you, and it works. Don't know what I would do without it. Take care, Jill
CS Re: Bottles - A Good Source
Regarding bottles, I've found www.specialtybottles.com to be least expensive with no minimum. -- Regards, Catherine -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: CS and stomach bacteria
None of the bacteria in the intestines that are living and multiplying are going to be in aerobic mode (although some can be aerobic when in an oxygenated atmosphere). The intestines contain virtually no oxygen, and any gases will be reducing, such as methane and hydrogen sulfide. Marshall sol wrote: This brings up a question, are there any aerobic bacteria in mammal intestines? sol Marshall Dudley wrote: First thing is, there is no such thing as good bacteria and bad bacteria. The closest you can come is gram positive and gram negative, or aerobic and anaerobic bacteria. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSurgent reply...silver build up...
I don't know, I have no reason to suspect that it does. But if it is totally harmless, and kills pathogens, then should one concern themselves with it depositing in the liver, if it does? Marshall debbie cozens wrote: Does anyone know if silver builds up in the liverthe lady at the local health shop said not to take it for more than 10 days as it builds up in the liverany comments???Debbie --- To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre.
Re: CSBruce Lipton Biologist. Incredible stuff
Do you have to be a member to get to that? Marshall Jim Holmes wrote: Jeff Rense Program www.rense.com , 12 21-05 9:00 PM, probably 9:30. Electromagnetic fields from the brain control gene expression. Sensory input reprograms the gene expression determined by senses and thoughts and feelings. They discussed earlier Russian work. Dish with same culture medium but separated by glass wall. Cell cultures on both sides, but isolated physically. One side is inoculated with virulent pathogen. The other side will die without actual inoculation; via energy. Same technique used with CA, and normal cells become CA when CA put on the other side. www.brucelipton.com Jim
Re: CSRe: CS and stomach bacteria
Thanks, that is what I thought. sol Marshall Dudley wrote: None of the bacteria in the intestines that are living and multiplying are going to be in aerobic mode (although some can be aerobic when in an oxygenated atmosphere). The intestines contain virtually no oxygen, and any gases will be reducing, such as methane and hydrogen sulfide. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBruce Lipton Biologist. Incredible stuff
Bruce Lipton is one of my heroes. I have his book and 3 videos. I recommend the last one, Nature, Nurture the Power of Love: Conscious Parenting The Biology of Belief is a little more technical and does not focus on the parenting although it does show us how our thoughts affect our body. Kallie Miller www.4optimallife.com; 4optimall...@rogers.com ; Safe magnetic sleep pads, antioxidant, alkalizing water filters, zappers - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 1:21 PM Subject: Re: CSBruce Lipton Biologist. Incredible stuff
Re: CSFood Poisoning ( Rotten Hamburger )
My experience with food poisoning is to down a quart of CS, along with a couple pieces of burned toast (or commercially prepared activated charcoal) to absorb toxins. Repeatedly works in 20 minutes. Jill
Re: CSRe: CS I believe I've been misdiagnosed........with Moblock type 2 when
In a message dated 12/22/05 10:02:17 AM, grace1...@aol.com writes: By the way, I tried Faith's remedy suggested for you, and it works. Don't know what I would do without it. Thanks, Im reading my email backwards so am anxious to read it. be well and many holiday wishes come true for all of us Marian and Hounds Remembering Merry -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: CS I believe I've been misdiagnosed........with Moblock type 2 when
Faith, I am so grateful to you for your advice and will be doing this today, I will respond to you and the list...my life has been SUPER stressful since August but the last three years particularly. Loosing my Mother 2 years ago, my Father 1 year ago, facing the possible of a much beloved family member..the tragic loss of 2 of my own dogs to distemper and 3 of my coveted rescues..I am grateful to you for reaching out. I am going to go visiting another Irish Wolfhounder today and try to relax, and am anxious to come back and proceed with this procedure. Most respectfully, Marian Temple and Hounds Heartsong Irish Wolfhounds Remembering Merry -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: CS I believe I've been misdiagnosed........with Moblock type 2 when
Faith, I have tried the website three times and it keeps coming up error, please advise. Be well Marian and Hounds Remembering Merry -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: CS and stomach bacteria
I googled intestinal aerobic bacteria and up came 186,000 hits suggesting such things as a constant war in the gut between aerobic and anaerobic flora aka bacteria...cellular oxygen shortages in unhealthy sick individuals depleting good aka aerobic bacteria in the bowel and an increase in anaerobic bacteria causing worsening of symptoms of illness.. Norm __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScs as an injection ?!?
There has been some kind of miscommunication on this subject. The person -Peter- brought up the sod. chloride/CS after I mentioned sod. clhoride in a question to Marshal re; Vit C iv. I think English is not his first language, and at first I thought he was being a wiseguy. Maybe he was; I don't know... One of our resident brainiacs got curious about sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) when I mentioned it re: vit c and now...you need a program to follow along As to the IV / CS, fwiw, I got my doc to contact and buy the Argentyn silver for iv use; which he did, (he showed me the 1200 ppm large vial- looked like brown sludge) but then he contacted his lawyer and was told that he cannot legally give it to me. I would not use homeade CS either, for one reason, there would be too much water needed- and straight water is toxic. Sodium would be needed to buffer the water, but would make the silver toxic. As of now, I am working on doing the Vit C IVs... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: CS and stomach bacteria
I'm not sure all aerobic bacteria are non-pathogenic, but I do know for certain that not all anerobic bacteria are pathogens. sol Norm wrote: I googled intestinal aerobic bacteria and up came 186,000 hits suggesting such things as a constant war in the gut between aerobic and anaerobic flora aka bacteria...cellular oxygen shortages in unhealthy sick individuals depleting good aka aerobic bacteria in the bowel and an increase in anaerobic bacteria causing worsening of symptoms of illness.. Norm -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: CS I believe I've been misdiagnosed........with Moblock type 2 when
Marian -- Faith missed a letter when he gave you the web addy. It should be www.healinghands.org. He missed the *g* in healing. MA
Re: CSRe: CS I believe I've been misdiagnosed........with Moblock type 2 when
Well, scratch that -- I got to a website alright, but it was a ministerial one, not Faith's. We'll have to wait to hear from him then. MA
Re: CSRe: CS I believe I've been misdiagnosed........with Moblock type 2 when
I did the same thing. Note that Faith's website is healinhands, not healinghands. Jill
Re: CSRe: CS I believe I've been misdiagnosed........with Moblock type 2 when
In a message dated 12/22/05 2:01:35 PM Central Standard Time, grace1...@aol.com writes: Note that Faith's website is healinhands, not healinghands. And using that web addy, I went right to it Jill -- thanks. MA
CSEIS + Oxylene for COPD
I just read a book called Hydrogen Peroxide Medical Miracle by William Campbell Douglass, MD. In it he indicates that Hydrogen Peroxide (in very small quantities) given intravenously works extremely well for Emphysema. He wrote: I am convinced that with peroxide therapy we finally have an effective treatment for these severely afflicted people. With the first treatment, the patient will often seem to get immediately worse, with violent coughing and production of copious amounts of phlegm. You can actually turn the coughing on and off by turning the infusion on and off. Dr. Charles Farr, the pioneer in peroxide therapy in this country, calls it the Alka-Seltzer effect. The oxygen seems to bubble up between the membrane lining and the pus, thus propelling the pus upward. This stimulates coughing and removal of all the junk that has accumulated in the lungs. The end result is a very happy patient. Chronic lung disease is not the only place for hydrogen peroxide by any means. But it is certainly one of the most dramatic uses for this safe and effective therapy. Hydrogen peroxide may also be effective on the skin cancer as well... The amount used for intravenous injection is very small and should be done by a physician. In one place it says, Send $5 and a written request for a list of doctors to IOMA, P.O. Box 891954, Oklahoma City, OK 73189 and in another place Robert Jay Rowen, MD President of IOMA says (after a list of some MDs who do this) Please send your tax deductible donations IBOMF, P.O. Box 30006, Edmond, OK 73003. so I suppose you could get references from one of these addresses. I bet both Dr.s have websites too. (IBOMF = International Bio-Oxidative Medicine Foundation, and IOMA = International Oxidative Medicine Association?) Pete, what state are you in? Dan Subject: CSEIS + Oxylene for COPD From: panamp...@aol.com Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 09:33:02 EST To: silver-list@eskimo.com As many on the list know, I have an advanced case of Emphysema and am trying various means to slow the decomposition of my lungs. I use a Omron nebulizer in which I add my 12PPM EIS than inhale the mist for about 10 mins. AM/PM. I came across this other product at Walgreens called Oxylene which indicates that it is a Nitric Oxide (NO) enhancer. It is suppose to improve oxygen delivery to the cells, promote max. circulation and vascular blood flow, and also increase physical sta- mina and endurance. Does anyone on the list have any knowledge of this product? Is NO a safe substance? One of the main ingredients is Arginine alpha Ketoglu tarate(akg). Thank you, Pete PS between nose cancer and Emphysema I am having a wonderful Christmas!G -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.3/209 - Release Date: 12/21/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRaynauds phenommenon?
Or fear, especially combat. Seems to be body's rx to limit blood flow to extremities. Useful for minor wounds. Anger is suppressed combat urge. - Original Message - From: Dan Nave na...@comcast.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 5:50 PM Subject: CSRaynauds phenommenon? Someone who had/has it and has mostly gotten over it describes it as a phenomenon due to repressed anger... Dan Subject:Re: CSH2O2 and EIS From:epa...@sympatico.ca Date:Wed, 21 Dec 2005 22:58:37 + To:silver-list@eskimo.com Does anyone here have experience with Raynauds phenomenon? Condition where extremities such as fingers and toes lose circulation and become cold. Ernie -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.3/209 - Release Date: 12/21/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CS[List Owner] I'm back...
Hi folks, I've been silent for the last week for the simple reason I wasn't here. We were called to Florida to attend my wife's Dad's death and funeral. Rosie's family is quite close, and we all flew or drove down when word came that he was close to the end. Though he's been terminally ill for some time, it was still very hard for everyone, as he was a really special person to a lot of people, not least his wife and children. I was only able to log on to a computer a couple of times while we were gone, and only enough to a) delete the thousands of bounce messages and spam, and b) observe that there didn't seem to be a great melt-down happening on the list. There were a couple of complaints in my in-box about excessive message volume and topic wandering, plus a few of you seem to have forgotten that you *must* turn off your fancy formatting and send plain text if you're going to get your messages past the 18k message size limit. I'm going through the backlog of messages now, and will probably post a message or two asking for topics to be ended or moved, plus anything else I see needing a tweak. Altogether, and in anticipation of my reading of all your messages, I believe thanks are in order for your carrying on so well in my absence. Peace, my friends. Mike Devour silver-list owner [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSBev's Lyme disease...
Folks, is there anybody with other suggestions for Bev? She's dealing with Lyme complicated by past chemotherapy, it seems. There are people who've done amazing things against deep seated Lyme using Rife, electrical devices, and numerous other therapies besides CS. Can we get a brief re-hash of some of this, please? One source i was thinking about was Bryan Posner's book: http://www.lymebook.com/ I haven't read it, but know enough to suspect it's worth the read. Any others? Thanks, Mike D. Andrea, I have had lyme disease with no co infections for 8 yrs. I have used sovernign silver but quite frankly, the silver does not help me at all. I tried for several months with an MD who is also alternative. I truly wished it had helped as antibiotics do their damage too. I have no alternative at this point. I have a generator that I bought and now don't use. My dr. recommended it. I was about to unsubscribe from this list as there are so many that don't help a lyme disease person from what I can see and yet I haven't as yet. I wish there was a lyme/silver only list that I could rely on. Also, this bacteria is so tricky and each of our bodies are so different. I have gone thru breast cancer in 81 and it was in my lymph nodes and wasn't suppose to survive. I had a year of chemotherapy and I'm aliver after so many years ago. If someone can truly tell me a similar story with cancer/chemo and now lyme disease I guess that would help. Chemo does permanant damage and now the bacteria is having a field day. I do trust SS and there is a gal in Texas that was able to get it for me at cost. If that is of help send me your information and I'll try to help. For now, I am on Bicillin LA for the past 4 months and herxing like crazy. Bev [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS misting
I may be totally off base but don't you want to expose yourself to some germs to keep your immune system strong and up to par...killing everything you come in contact with is like a remote immune system and not using or boosting the one you have...I think colds are good but the over the counter meds are bad they just drive the virus deeper like the lungs or intestineswhen i started working after 15 years at a grocery store near the pharmacy I caught 2 colds in two months and now nothing..my immune system needed to make antibodies to protect me from my surroundings...nurish the body best thing you could do to protect you from germs... cari sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: Don't know that you need it, but misting keeps me from catching colds and flus. I am very susceptible to them. No need to rub it in. . do i have this right all i need a spray bottle w/ CS? spray it on my face rub in after leaving work, stores, etc.. or is there more involved that what i stated? thanks alot chad -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less
CSCOPD and IV H2O2
From Douglass' book: Severe COPD (chronic obstructive pulmonary disease): Initial 250 ml of 0.15 percent, which caused significant alveolar debridement and coughing up of copious amount of purulent material. Continued weekly infusions for six weeks, and by the end of the sixth treatment, the patient no longer was coughing. Comment: Pulmonary function improved and the patient returned to working full-time. Maintained on treatment according to patient's feel the need, which recurs approximately every four to six weeks. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.3/209 - Release Date: 12/21/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRe: controversey
The ashen grey could be from being in government so long. Why blame the silver? Hi Cari, The blue man is a US Representative that made his home brew EIS (aka CS) using Montana well water. Let's correct a couple of misconceptions that are creeping in here: Stan Jones was a CANDIDATE for US Senate of the Libertarian party in Montana in 2002. He made his brew using tap water and well water from various sources over time, added additional electrolytes, and brewed for extended periods of time. Then he drank these muddy concoctions daily for a couple of years or so. I agree. However Stan being blue in that phoe has more to do with photoshop than his taking this witchs brew of silver compounds. I have seen the original unretouched photo of him, and he is no more blue than anyone else. Associate Press doctored the photo, either because they thought it would make a better story, or they got paid to do so by pharm interests. He is slightly ashen colored though. This is true. His condidtion is quite mild from what I've heard, and the Smurf-like visage with the orange hair that was published in the press was the obvious result of a Photoshop effort by an unscrupulous photographer or journalist. I want to caution Bob and Marshall to both mind their tone towards each other. Regardless of who started it it is improper to engage in rudeness on the list! Please, gentlemen, conduct yourselves in in the helpful, considerate fashion which is your norm. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSMiscel
e said, “Would the B3 not cause flushing everywhere else too? Or would non flush B3 work as well?” Yes, niacin would cause an all-over flush. It’s not bad, and some folks like it. (I don’t.) But the flush tends to occur in the face and extremities, and it only lasts a few minutes (well, maybe 15-20). The point would be to stimulate the extremities, to get blood and energy flowing, to see what repairs or balancing the niacin might do. It’s a harmless experiment that might help. Niacin also stabilizes blood sugar, balances brain chemistry neurotransmitters, and is used in megadoses (30 grams/day) by orthomolecular doctors to very effectively treat schizophrenia. The non-flush B3 (niacinamide) does not cause the flush, but neither does it have the same benefits. Also, if the niacin is used every day, the flush diminishes and eventually stops. A person is then able to gradually increase the dosage for pronounced and increased benefits. Actually, although I suggested 500 mg/day, it would be a better idea to get 100 mg tablets, start small and work up to as much as is comfortable. Jim said, “My H2O2 is many months old, and 35% w/o preservative. How critical is the amount? I will toss the old stuff and get new if it is critical.” Food grade H2O2 has no stabilizer chemicals to prevent oxygen evaporation, so it can lose strength over time. But if the bottle has been sealed, it can last for a very long time, since the oxygen cannot escape. The easiest way to check is to put some of the H2O2 on a not-so-clean surface (floor, toilet bowl, shower curtain) and see if it fizzes up. If it does, it is still usable. Betsy said, “I am confused again. If CS kills good bacteria as well as bad, then, why is it prescribed for treating candida?” The problem with Candida is that it gets out of the colon and invades the body. Generous CS usage fights the Candida in your blood stream. The only way to get CS into your colon is with colonic implants. The safety of using CS is that it is quite difficult to get CS to where it can kill the good bacteria. See the next paragraph. Rowena said, “Our respected Terry Chamberlin, a practitioner, regularly drinks a pint or more (from memory), and it was only when he drank well over that that he noticed any problems with the intestinal flora.” Actually, I drink at least a quart per day, have for about six years, and I have never had any problems with it affecting my intestinal flora. __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSBruce Lipton Biologist. Incredible stuff
Marshall, Rense's live show is open; anyone can listen. Access to the archives costs six dollars a month. The free link is often overloaded. You can get to Lipton's site at www.brucelipton.com The book in which he details his research is called The Biology of Belief. 31 dollars with shipping. Jim -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 11:21 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBruce Lipton Biologist. Incredible stuff Do you have to be a member to get to that? Marshall Jim Holmes wrote: Jeff Rense Program www.rense.com , 12 21-05 9:00 PM, probably 9:30. Electromagnetic fields from the brain control gene expression. Sensory input reprograms the gene expression determined by senses and thoughts and feelings. They discussed earlier Russian work. Dish with same culture medium but separated by glass wall. Cell cultures on both sides, but isolated physically. One side is inoculated with virulent pathogen. The other side will die without actual inoculation; via energy. Same technique used with CA, and normal cells become CA when CA put on the other side. www.brucelipton.com Jim
RE: CSBruce Lipton Biologist. Incredible stuff
I look forward to learning his work. Jim -Original Message- From: 4optimallife [mailto:4optimall...@rogers.com] Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 11:43 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBruce Lipton Biologist. Incredible stuff Bruce Lipton is one of my heroes. I have his book and 3 videos. I recommend the last one, Nature, Nurture the Power of Love: Conscious Parenting The Biology of Belief is a little more technical and does not focus on the parenting although it does show us how our thoughts affect our body. Kallie Miller www.4optimallife.com; 4optimall...@rogers.com ; Safe magnetic sleep pads, antioxidant, alkalizing water filters, zappers - Original Message - From: Marshall mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com Dudley To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 1:21 PM Subject: Re: CSBruce Lipton Biologist. Incredible stuff
Re: CSCS misting
You can be exposed to things without getting sick. To me, getting sick means your immune system isn't as strong as it should be. Cindy -- Original message -- From: cari smith helt...@yahoo.com I may be totally off base but don't you want to expose yourself to some germs to keep your immune system strong and up to par...killing everything you come in contact with is like a remote immune system and not using or boosting the one you have...I think colds are good but the over the counter meds are bad they just drive the virus deeper like the lungs or intestineswhen i started working after 15 years at a grocery store near the pharmacy I caught 2 colds in two months and now nothing..my immune system needed to make antibodies to protect me from my surroundings...nurish the body best thing you could do to protect you from germs... cari sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: Don't know that you need it, but misting keeps me from catching colds and flus. I am very susceptible to them. No need to rub it in. . do i have this right all i need a spray bottle w/ CS? spray it on my face rub in after leaving work, stores, etc.. or is there more involved that what i stated? thanks alot chad -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less
CSRE Brown-sequard syndrome
Hello fellow cs users. I am writing to say thank you to all the help I received when I wrote concering a friend of my daughter's who was diagnosed with brown-sequard syndrome. She does not live near me but did visit her family who live near me for a short while after she was first diagnosed. I passed on all of the information that I was given to her and she thanked me. She has a family member who is into holistic medicine and she has been following her advice. She did refuse to take the steriods and at present is taking some sort of crystal under her tongue---have no idea what that is about---as part of her treatment. I am glad that she is looking into alternative medicine and I am hoping she will find her answer to her health problem and continue to live a normal life. To Ernie, who gave me the information concerning a lady who is working in the Toronto area and has considerable success in the ms area, I want to say a special thanks. Right now she is not using this information as she is in Western Canada, but should she return to her native home she would definitely be able to put that information to good use. Once again thank you to all for your generosity and sharing your expertise with me. God Bless and good health to all, Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year LJ Hefferman - Find your next car at Yahoo! Canada Autos
CS**white diarrhea in a child??
What would cause vomiting with white??(says the parents) diarrhea in a three year old? They tested for Hep, said it was negative. My husband is ill with his liver and I am afraid for him to be near them, it's his son's family. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CS**white diarrhea in a child??
Usually due to a total lack of bile secretion. What would cause vomiting with white??(says the parents) diarrhea in a three year old? They tested for Hep, said it was negative. My husband is ill with his liver and I am afraid for him to be near them, it's his son's family. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CS**white diarrhea in a child??
what would do it though? --- David W Kenney dr...@montrose.net wrote: Usually due to a total lack of bile secretion. What would cause vomiting with white??(says the parents) diarrhea in a three year old? They tested for Hep, said it was negative. My husband is ill with his liver and I am afraid for him to be near them, it's his son's family. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS misting
I also spray and inhale it up my nose. Works for me. Haven't had a cold yet in this season. stuff At 09:47 AM 12/22/2005, Chad wrote: hi do i have this right all i need a spray bottle w/ CS? spray it on my face rub in after leaving work, stores, etc.. or is there more involved that what i stated? thanks alot chad -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS misting
Nope. I'm not interested in exposing myself to diseases that 59 years have shown me my immune system can't handle. I'm killing the buggers off at the entrances before they can set up shop. sol cari smith wrote: I may be totally off base but don't you want to expose yourself to some germs to keep your immune system strong and up to par...killing everything you come in contact with is like a remote immune system and not using or boosting the one you have...I think colds are good but the over the counter meds are bad they just drive the virus deeper like the lungs or intestineswhen i started working after 15 years at a grocery store near the pharmacy I caught 2 colds in two months and now nothing..my immune system needed to make antibodies to protect me from my surroundings...nurish the body best thing you could do to protect you from germs... cari sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: Don't know that you need it, but misting keeps me from catching colds and flus. I am very susceptible to them. No need to rub it in. . do i have this right all i need a spray bottle w/ CS? spray it on my face rub in after leaving work, stores, etc.. or is there more involved that what i stated? thanks alot chad -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour Yahoo! DSL http://pa.yahoo.com/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=37474/*http://promo.yahoo.com/broadband/%20 Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.3/209 - Release Date: 12/21/2005 -- Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. Mark Twain
RE: CS**white diarrhea in a child??
I'll take some guessesan obstruction in the bile duct? Maybe a gallstone? http://curezone.com might be a good place to search; maybe a liver cleanse, using epsom salt, grapefruit juice/olive oil would push it out. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSEIS + Oxylene for COPD
At 11:15 AM 12/22/2005, Kallie wrote to Pete: Check this out, Pete. http://www.h2o2medicalmiracle.com/H2o2MedicalMiracle.pdf stuff Have you looked into and can afford intravenous Hydrogen peroxide for your emphysema and cancer? For more information, do a google search on intravenous hydrogen peroxide Kallie Miller - Original Message - From: mailto:panamp...@aol.companamp...@aol.com To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 9:33 AM Subject: CSEIS + Oxylene for COPD As many on the list know, I have an advanced case of Emphysema and am trying various means to slow the decomposition of my lungs. I use a Omron nebulizer in which I add my 12PPM EIS than inhale the mist for about 10 mins. AM/PM. I came across this other product at Walgreens called Oxylene which indicates that it is a Nitric Oxide (NO) enhancer. It is suppose to improve oxygen delivery to the cells, promote max. circulation and vascular blood flow, and also increase physical sta- mina and endurance. Does anyone on the list have any knowledge of this product? Is NO a safe substance? One of the main ingredients is Arginine alpha Ketoglu tarate(akg). Thank you, Pete PS between nose cancer and Emphysema I am having a wonderful Christmas!G -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS misting
In a message dated 12/22/2005 3:50:18 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, ch...@comcast.net writes: I may be totally off base but don't you want to expose yourself to some germs to keep your immune system strong and up to par This brings up an issue I have wondered about for a long time. Some experts advise taking a large amount of CS on a daily basis. Does that compromise the body's own immune system? Is it best to only take CS when sick? How about only taking it when REALLY SICK, so as to strengthen the immune system. What do the experts on the Silver List think? Jill
Re: CSCS misting
Hi Grace1way, yes you do want to expose yourself. that is why children put everything in their mouths it is a way to introduce environment microbes to the system to bulid the immunity. Most microbes are beneficial, even some of them that have a bad name like E-coli. can have a good effect on the body. I know one guy that cures people of cancer using it. this society is germ phobic which is completely unnecessary. Ass germs do not cause disease, it is an unhealthy and out of balanace body that causese disease. the germs are jsut there to clean up the mess. Just like flies dont caues garbage. the germ theory was put out by pastuer and even he denounced it when he was dying as not a valid theory. the entire medical establishment is based on that false theory and is its achilles heal. Once people realize the its not the germs that caues diseaes the whole business with disease that makes billions will collapse in a resounding dust heap. It sholud happen soon. Unless a medical dictatorship arises, to perpetuate it at gunpoint, which may already be starting. http://www.expo-net.org/PasteurBechamp.html Take care, V In a message dated 12/22/2005 3:50:18 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, ch...@comcast.net writes: I may be totally off base but don't you want to expose yourself to some germs to keep your immune system strong and up to par This brings up an issue I have wondered about for a long time. Some experts advise taking a large amount of CS on a daily basis. Does that compromise the body's own immune system? Is it best to only take CS when sick? How about only taking it when REALLY SICK, so as to strengthen the immune system. What do the experts on the Silver List think? Jill -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH2O2 and EIS
In a message dated 12/22/2005 8:13:34 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, odecoy...@alltel.net writes: To my suspicion all the nasal mist spray bottles are sealed so that pressure can be maintained in the bottle. This is what was told to me by the pharmacist. With this being said. How would one go about dumping the saline solution and replacing it with CS It is hard to pry the very top plastic cap off, and takes a lot of effort, but you can do it if you try. Jill
Re: CS[List Owner] I'm back...
So sorry about your father-in-law Mike please give condolance's to Rosiedeb M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote: Hi folks, I've been silent for the last week for the simple reason I wasn't here. We were called to Florida to attend my wife's Dad's death and funeral. Rosie's family is quite close, and we all flew or drove down when word came that he was close to the end. Though he's been terminally ill for some time, it was still very hard for everyone, as he was a really special person to a lot of people, not least his wife and children. I was only able to log on to a computer a couple of times while we were gone, and only enough to a) delete the thousands of bounce messages and spam, and b) observe that there didn't seem to be a great melt-down happening on the list. There were a couple of complaints in my in-box about excessive message volume and topic wandering, plus a few of you seem to have forgotten that you *must* turn off your fancy formatting and send plain text if you're going to get your messages past the 18k message size limit. I'm going through the backlog of messages now, and will probably post a message or two asking for topics to be ended or moved, plus anything else I see needing a tweak. Altogether, and in anticipation of my reading of all your messages, I believe thanks are in order for your carrying on so well in my absence. Peace, my friends. Mike Devour silver-list owner [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2005 #858
When I had a lung infection I got a nebulizer and put Sovereign silver in and inhaled deeply, holding the silver mist in. I got rid of the infection quicker than my husband who started antibiotics before I started these silver treatments. Andrea - Original Message - From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.commailto:silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com To: silver-dig...@eskimo.commailto:silver-dig...@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 11:23 AM Subject: silver-digest Digest V2005 #858
RE: CS[List Owner] I'm back...
Condolences on your Rosie's loss.Terry _ From: Deborah Gerard [mailto:devorah...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 9:43 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS[List Owner] I'm back... So sorry about your father-in-law Mike please give condolance's to Rosiedeb M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote: Hi folks, I've been silent for the last week for the simple reason I wasn't here. We were called to Florida to attend my wife's Dad's death and funeral. Rosie's family is quite close, and we all flew or drove down when word came that he was close to the end. Though he's been terminally ill for some time, it was still very hard for everyone, as he was a really special person to a lot of people, not least his wife and children. I was only able to log on to a computer a couple of times while we were gone, and only enough to a) delete the thousands of bounce messages and spam, and b) observe that there didn't seem to be a great melt-down happening on the list. There were a couple of complaints in my in-box about excessive message volume and topic wandering, plus a few of you seem to have forgotten that you *must* turn off your fancy formatting and send plain text if you're going to get your messages past the 18k message size limit. I'm going through the backlog of messages now, and will probably post a message or two asking for topics to be ended or moved, plus anything else I see needing a tweak. Altogether, and in anticipation of my reading of all your messages, I believe thanks are in order for your carrying on so well in my absence. Peace, my friends. Mike Devour silver-list owner [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your mess! age to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2005 #858
hi would home made CS be just as good? also what type/kind of nebulizer do you use? thanks chad - Original Message - From: Greg Ball To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 8:54 PM Subject: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2005 #858 When I had a lung infection I got a nebulizer and put Sovereign silver in and inhaled deeply, holding the silver mist in. I got rid of the infection quicker than my husband who started antibiotics before I started these silver treatments. Andrea - Original Message - From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 11:23 AM Subject: silver-digest Digest V2005 #858 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.3/209 - Release Date: 12/21/2005
RE: CS[List Owner] I'm back...
Sorry to hear Mike. Ernie From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS[List Owner] I'm back... Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 21:40:55 -5 Hi folks, I've been silent for the last week for the simple reason I wasn't here. We were called to Florida to attend my wife's Dad's death and funeral. Rosie's family is quite close, and we all flew or drove down when word came that he was close to the end. Though he's been terminally ill for some time, it was still very hard for everyone, as he was a really special person to a lot of people, not least his wife and children. I was only able to log on to a computer a couple of times while we were gone, and only enough to a) delete the thousands of bounce messages and spam, and b) observe that there didn't seem to be a great melt-down happening on the list. There were a couple of complaints in my in-box about excessive message volume and topic wandering, plus a few of you seem to have forgotten that you *must* turn off your fancy formatting and send plain text if you're going to get your messages past the 18k message size limit. I'm going through the backlog of messages now, and will probably post a message or two asking for topics to be ended or moved, plus anything else I see needing a tweak. Altogether, and in anticipation of my reading of all your messages, I believe thanks are in order for your carrying on so well in my absence. Peace, my friends. Mike Devour silver-list owner [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS misting
I hope I didn't already post this, but my husband is just getting over a really nasty cold he's had for over two weeks. I didn't catch it. Mist, mist, mist. Sip, sip, sip. He neglects his misting, but still he only gets one or two colds a year. His immune system is better than mine, or he just isn't as susceptible to those viruses. I have a friend who is 90 who never gets a cold or flu. She just never catches them, ever. She tells me she never has in her entire 90 years. I have known her for over 12 years now, and she has not had a cold or the flu in those 12 years, so she seems to be telling it accurately. sol Stuff wrote: I also spray and inhale it up my nose. Works for me. Haven't had a cold yet in this season. stuff -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS misting
I think CS does nothing to or for the immune system. It kills bacteria, viruses, and some or most fungi. Period. (Well except for stimulating healing of wounds...I've seen it do that when used topically). If your immune system can't handle something, use enough CS long enough to get the job done. As Ode says, dose for effect. Dosing is extremely variable from one individual to the next. If I ever got cancer I'd drink a minimum of a half gallon a day. No kidding. As it is, I have some conditions that are risk factors for a certain cancer, and for some other reasons that seem good to me, I drink between a pint and a quart a day. I'm not very consistent, but I try for at least a pint a day. sol P.S. I am not one of the experts, so I'm waiting for them to give their opinions, too. But I couldn't resist answering you anyway. grace1...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 12/22/2005 3:50:18 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, ch...@comcast.net writes: I may be totally off base but don't you want to expose yourself to some germs to keep your immune system strong and up to par This brings up an issue I have wondered about for a long time. Some experts advise taking a large amount of CS on a daily basis. Does that compromise the body's own immune system? Is it best to only take CS when sick? How about only taking it when REALLY SICK, so as to strengthen the immune system. What do the experts on the Silver List think? -- Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. Mark Twain -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Just finished yearly check up and DR now says that enlarged prostate is now normal. I used the umeboshi pickled apricot, $3.69 for 22 apricots, one per day, lemon and garlic ground up in my Vita mix juicer, changed my method of Gatorade/CS mixed in a gallon jug to fresh CS and Gatorade mixed as I use it, (Ode said not to pre mix or CS could get bound up) used rife frequency 2128 for 30 minutes per day. I have not seen any more black mold in several months. I quit doing sinus flushes with the CS,DMSO, Xylitol,GSE as no more mold comes out. Buteyko shallow breathing helped with sinus problem. Will head for Yuma, AZ soon where I take the following IVs, EDTA chelation, H2O2, Plaque, and Ultra Violet blood cleaning. I try for 10 IVs per year, in that order. H2O2 and Ultra Violet are for Asthma. They are not a cure as I need them each year. DR said I have Metabolic Syndrome, Insulin Resistant. Also I will be tested for sleep apnea. I can't drive after a big lunch without going to sleep. I don't believe the testing will be finished in time as I am leaving in early Feb. I thought I might try to buy a used CPAP until Medicare can catch up. Will also get the scope down into my stomach checking on my Barrettes Esophagus problem. in early Jan.
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I am one of those who can't stand the niacin flush and I severely flush on 50 mg. and so did my mother. I suggest anyone starting start small. I am glad this came up as I need to get back on my non-flushing niacin to lower my cholesterol. Here is a great article of many on Dr. Andrew Saul's website where he has a search program. Search niacin for many great articles. http://www.doctoryourself.com//hoffer_niacin.html Here is an excerpt from that article The flush starts in the forehead with a warning tingle. Then it intensifies. The rate of the development of the flush depends upon so many factors it is impossible to predict what course it will follow. The following factors decrease the intensity of the flush: a cold meal, taking it after a meal, taking aspirin before, using an antihistamine in advance. The following factors make the flush more intense: a hot meal, a hot drink, an empty stomach, chewing the tablets and the rate at which the tablets break down in liquid. From the forehead and face the flush travels down the rest of the body, usually stopping somewhere in the chest but may extend to the toes. With continued use the flush gradually recedes and eventually may be only a tingling sensation in the forehead. If the person stops taking the vitamin for a day or more the sequence of flushing will be re-experienced. Some people never do flush and a few only begin to flush after several years of taking the vitamin. With nicotinamide there should be no flushing but I have found that about 2% will flush. This may be due to rapid conversion of the nicotinamide to nicotinic acid in the body. When the dose is too high for both forms of the vitamin the patients will suffer from nausea at first, and then if the dose is not reduced it will lead to vomiting. These side effects may be used to determine what is the optimum dose. When they do occur the dose is reduced until it is just below the nausea level. With children the first indication may be loss of appetite. If this does occur the vitamin must be stopped for a few days and then may be resumed at a lower level. Very few can take more than 6 grams per day of the nicotinamide. With nicotinic acid it is possible to go much higher. Many schizophrenics have taken up to 30 grams per day with no difficulty. The dose will alter over time and if on a dose where there were no problems, they may develop in time. Usually this indicates that the patient is getting better and does not need as much. I have divided all patients who might benefit from vitamin B-3 into the following categories. Season's greetings Kallie Miller www.4optimallife.com; 4optimall...@rogers.com ; Safe magnetic sleep pads, antioxidant, alkalizing water filters, zappers - Original Message - From: Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 5:36 PM Subject: CSMiscel e said, Would the B3 not cause flushing everywhere else too? Or would non flush B3 work as well? Yes, niacin would cause an all-over flush. It's not bad, and some folks like it. (I don't.) But the flush tends to occur in the face and extremities, and it snip .
CSPEROXIDE SILVER - HOW LONG?
How Long do you have to leave the silver before you drink it once you've added the hydrogen peroxide? - Original Message - From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.commailto:silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com To: silver-dig...@eskimo.commailto:silver-dig...@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 3:59 PM Subject: silver-digest Digest V2005 #860
CSBev's Lyme disease...
Bev, after lots of serious research, I decided not to use antibiotics but to do the following. I bought a rife machine. I have not started yet as I am doing the salt/C and want to ramp up to a good dose first. Then I will add rife, mag pulser and beck later. I have been taking glutathione IV's which help clear out the toxins the bugs make. It has helped me very significantly and is worth the time and money. I find it has helped my immune system as my blood work has improved, and it helps with energy and mental clarity. I seem to get less infections. I eat low carb as described in the book Protein Power, which appears to be the best diet for those with lyme. It definitely makes a difference for me. I find the lyme/rife group on yahoo to be most helpful with all kinds of issues. http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Lyme-and-rife/http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Lyme-and-rife/ I find the salt/c yahoo group to be helpful with info for that tactic. http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/lymestrategies/http://health.groupsyahoo.com/group/lymestrategies/ Lymenet.org has some good boards with folks who are using mainstream and alternative approaches: http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgihttp://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi? I will pulse in natural antibiotics such as silver and samento for maybe 2-3 weeks at a time as any more than that can push the bugs to change form and hide if I understand things correctly. I'm not sure yet if I can take silver continuously or not without causing other approaches to be less effective. I don't believe that silver on it's own can reach the bugs in all the hiding places and and all their forms, so I intend to use silver as a part of the plan to lower the bug load. Ozone is also something I use that makes a dent in how I feel, but as a stand alone, it won't conquer the lyme, possibly for the same reasons as silver, but I intend to use it with everything else. I've used it for years and feel it's really helped me. Additionally, I think cleansing is essential before doing all of this. I did a colon cleanse with oxy-powder, which I found to be more effective than any other type of colon cleanse I've tried. Then I did 5 Hulda Clark ( www.curezone.comhttp://www.curezone.com/ ) style liver flushes which made a big difference. Many of my blood tests went normal from the flushes. I used a kidney cleanse formula also. I believe that colon and liver cleansing are essential to allow the body to handle the toxins created by killing the bugs. It can make for less intense and prolonged herxing, with less damage to the system from toxins. I do hope this helps. Andrea - Original Message - From: M. G. Devourmailto:mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 9:42 PM Subject: CSBev's Lyme disease... Folks, is there anybody with other suggestions for Bev? She's dealing with Lyme complicated by past chemotherapy, it seems. There are people who've done amazing things against deep seated Lyme using Rife, electrical devices, and numerous other therapies besides CS. Can we get a brief re-hash of some of this, please? One source i was thinking about was Bryan Posner's book: http://www.lymebook.com/http://www.lymebook.com/ I haven't read it, but know enough to suspect it's worth the read. Any others? Thanks, Mike D. Andrea, I have had lyme disease with no co infections for 8 yrs. I have used sovernign silver but quite frankly, the silver does not help me at all. I tried for several months with an MD who is also alternative. I truly wished it had helped as antibiotics do their damage too. I have no alternative at this point. I have a generator that I bought and now don't use. My dr. recommended it. I was about to unsubscribe from this list as there are so many that don't help a lyme disease person from what I can see and yet I haven't as yet. I wish there was a lyme/silver only list that I could rely on. Also, this bacteria is so tricky and each of our bodies are so different. I have gone thru breast cancer in 81 and it was in my lymph nodes and wasn't suppose to survive. I had a year of chemotherapy and I'm aliver after so many years ago. If someone can truly tell me a similar story with cancer/chemo and now lyme disease I guess that would help. Chemo does permanant damage and now the bacteria is having a field day. I do trust SS and there is a gal in Texas that was able to get it for me at cost. If that is of help send me your information and I'll try to help. For now, I am on Bicillin LA for the past 4 months and herxing like crazy. Bev [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a
Re: CSEIS + Oxylene for COPD
My goodness: a 173 page book, free with one mouse-click! Thanks for that. I notice that in the first chapter the doctor addresses my long-standing question about the conflict between H202 therapy and the free-radical theory of aging and cellular damage. That alone suggests this is a worthwhile read. Much obliged! On Friday, Dec 23, 2005, at 10:49 Asia/Tokyo, Stuff wrote: At 11:15 AM 12/22/2005, Kallie wrote to Pete: Check this out, Pete. http://www.h2o2medicalmiracle.com/H2o2MedicalMiracle.pdf stuff Have you looked into and can afford intravenous Hydrogen peroxide for your emphysema and cancer? For more information, do a google search on intravenous hydrogen peroxide Kallie Miller - Original Message - From: mailto:panamp...@aol.companamp...@aol.com To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 9:33 AM Subject: CSEIS + Oxylene for COPD As many on the list know, I have an advanced case of Emphysema and am trying various means to slow the decomposition of my lungs. I use a Omron nebulizer in which I add my 12PPM EIS than inhale the mist for about 10 mins. AM/PM. I came across this other product at Walgreens called Oxylene which indicates that it is a Nitric Oxide (NO) enhancer. It is suppose to improve oxygen delivery to the cells, promote max. circulation and vascular blood flow, and also increase physical sta- mina and endurance. Does anyone on the list have any knowledge of this product? Is NO a safe substance? One of the main ingredients is Arginine alpha Ketoglu tarate(akg). Thank you, Pete PS between nose cancer and Emphysema I am having a wonderful Christmas!G -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSniacin flush, was Re: CS
I can't take the niacin flush either. And I also flush from niacinamide. They last for many hours, and are uncomfortable to the point of being painful. Thanks for the article. sol 4optimallife wrote: I am one of those who can't stand the niacin flush and I severely flush on 50 mg. and so did my mother. I suggest anyone starting start small. I am glad this came up as I need to get back on my non-flushing niacin to lower my cholesterol. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS misting
I thought the opposite was true...when your having symptoms your immune system is fighting it...cleansing some people would say...and when you sneeze you are throwing the germs out and they get passed to the next person...when a person starts to feel better that's when they are contagious... cari ch...@comcast.net ch...@comcast.net wrote: You can be exposed to things without getting sick. To me, getting sick means your immune system isn't as strong as it should be. Cindy -- Original message -- From: cari smith helt...@yahoo.com I may be totally off base but don't you want to expose yourself to some germs to keep your immune system strong and up to par...killing everything you come in contact with is like a remote immune system and not using or boosting the one you have...I think colds are good but the over the counter meds are bad they just drive the virus deeper like the lungs or intestineswhen i started working after 15 years at a grocery store near the pharmacy I caught 2 colds in two months and now nothing..my immune system needed to make antibodies to protect me from my surroundings...nurish the body best thing you could do to protect you from germs... cari sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: Don't know that you need it, but misting keeps me from catching colds and flus. I am very susceptible to them. No need to rub it in. . do i have this right all i need a spray bottle w/ CS? spray it on my face rub in after leaving work, stores, etc.. or is there more involved that what i stated? thanks alot chad -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less - Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less
RE: CSEIS + Oxylene for COPD
Yes Jonathan.. Couldn't agree more. Thanks for this infor.. If it wasn't your email I would have missed this good readings. From WA. -Original Message- From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp] Sent: Friday, 23 December 2005 1:06 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSEIS + Oxylene for COPD My goodness: a 173 page book, free with one mouse-click! Thanks for that. I notice that in the first chapter the doctor addresses my long-standing question about the conflict between H202 therapy and the free-radical theory of aging and cellular damage. That alone suggests this is a worthwhile read. Much obliged! On Friday, Dec 23, 2005, at 10:49 Asia/Tokyo, Stuff wrote: At 11:15 AM 12/22/2005, Kallie wrote to Pete: Check this out, Pete. http://www.h2o2medicalmiracle.com/H2o2MedicalMiracle.pdf stuff Have you looked into and can afford intravenous Hydrogen peroxide for your emphysema and cancer? For more information, do a google search on intravenous hydrogen peroxide Kallie Miller - Original Message - From: mailto:panamp...@aol.companamp...@aol.com To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 9:33 AM Subject: CSEIS + Oxylene for COPD As many on the list know, I have an advanced case of Emphysema and am trying various means to slow the decomposition of my lungs. I use a Omron nebulizer in which I add my 12PPM EIS than inhale the mist for about 10 mins. AM/PM. I came across this other product at Walgreens called Oxylene which indicates that it is a Nitric Oxide (NO) enhancer. It is suppose to improve oxygen delivery to the cells, promote max. circulation and vascular blood flow, and also increase physical sta- mina and endurance. Does anyone on the list have any knowledge of this product? Is NO a safe substance? One of the main ingredients is Arginine alpha Ketoglu tarate(akg). Thank you, Pete PS between nose cancer and Emphysema I am having a wonderful Christmas!G -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: white diarrhea
Hi, Excuse me for not including your post and your name but I accidentally trashed the digest. I think there was some confusion about what was white -- the vomit or the diarrhea. The way I read it I believe it is the diarrhea. Is this correct? This only documentation of this in humans is in literature on Hep A. I don't know what to tell you here but I do know how to fix it. Personally, I wouldn't do a liver cleanse on a child that age. Homeopathy has documentation of white diarrhea but there are a few different remedies depending on other symptoms. If you want to post those (including anything that might be referred to as emotional symptoms) I'd be glad to let you know which remedy is most fitting. -- Regards, Catherine -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH2O2 and EIS
For spraying you should you CS straight, no H2o2. Topically, you never need to add H2o2. \Nancy - Original Message - From: Shelli me...@insightbb.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 11:22 AM Subject: Re: CSH2O2 and EIS I did start misting my face and tried to breath it in sporadically but I wasn't sure with the H2O2 if I should get it in my eyes. I just wish I could get rid of the cough. It is keeping me, and probably my family, up at night. I will try to remember to mist myself when coming from somewhere. That sounds like a great idea. Thanks. Shelli -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS
The easiest and most precise is 3.5%. - Original Message - From: Jim Holmes ami...@starband.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 12:40 PM Subject: RE: CS Can someone clarify for me the concentration of H2O2 to use when putting 2 drops in 8 ounces. Should it be 3.5% or 35%. TIA, Jim -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 5:23 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS At 09:53 AM 12/20/2005 -0600, you wrote: Please give me some clarification Is H2o2Topical Hydrogen Peroxide? I have heard of people putting Hydrogen Peroxide in the CSare they using Topical Hydrogen Peroxide that you put on external sores? ## That is correct..off the shelf 3%. Ode I start making my CS at home and have been drinking it for about 6 months...I feel that the CS goes through my body to fast too and would like to get a deep affect from the CS. ## Elimination rate IS quite fast..which also makes it very safe to use a LOT, like quarts even, at least for a while. Ode Thanks for your help Gwlynda -- From: Nancy DeLise [mailto:nancym...@prodigy.net] Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 11:34 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE I took 16- 20 oz. of my home made Cs for 2 1/2 years. When I learned about Sovereign Silver, I took 2 teaspoons four times a day. Now that I am about 90 % cured of my MS, I take 8 oz. of my home made in the morning and 2 teaspoons of Sovereign Silver two times a day.(MS is a virus and I would never stop completely) As far as the H2o2, I put 1 drop of H2o2 into 2 oz. of CS and let it sit for about 15 minutes. The H2o2 interacts with the silver and causes the particles to break up into much smaller particles, and more of it gets utilized by the body rather then just going thru quickly. Nancy - Original Message - From: mailto:granb...@msn.comGreg Ball To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 11:09 PM Subject: Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE Nancy - I may have missed this in another post, but how much sovereign did you take, and did you combine that with homemade? Also, how did you make your homemade silver? Lastly, why mix the silver with the H202? I have an ozone machine and can drink ozone water. Would this be the same because it ads oxygen? or is there something about the peroxide thats unique? Does it combine somehow with the silver? Thanks so much for sharing! No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.1 - Release Date: 12/19/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.2 - Release Date: 12/20/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.3/209 - Release Date: 12/21/2005
Re: CSRe: CS I believe I've been misdiagnosed........with Moblock type 2 when
In a message dated 12/22/05 12:26:22 PM, marmar...@aol.com writes: Note that Faith's website is healinhands, not healinghands. And using that web addy, I went right to it Jill -- thanks. Thanks so much I will try it straight away.will let you know be well Marian and Hounds Remembering Merry -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCold extremities
Hi Tel, (6000mg niacin WOW-)Do you take this amount of niacin every day or do you take a break from it for awhile occasionally? I take just 250mg every day except Sundays which I take a day off from all supplements. The reason I ask is that someone told me that much niacin is hard on the liver(250mg that is ). I also take about a tsp. of 180,000 HU cayenne pepper with food once a day but I still have cold hands and feet. Dennis. Tel Tofflemire wrote: I have the same experience, I use niacin 6,000 mg per day and 6,000 mg of Cayenne pepper 90,000 HU (heating units) each. Also I use 1,000 mg of Ginkgo Bilobo per day all the dose are split in 1/2 am and pm . I would suggest working up to this amount, and the no flush niacin is less irritating, but I take the normal flush kind and like it...It works for me. I am in my 8th year doing this , with great results. Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. In a message dated 12/21/2005 5:00:15 PM Central Standard Time, epa...@sympatico.ca mailto:epa...@sympatico.ca writes: Does anyone here have experience with ? Condition where extremities such as fingers and toes lose circulation and become cold. Ernie Ernie: I have been pained with the problem for 20 some years. There doesn't seem to be a safe way of eliminating the problem. A lot of years ago I took a medicine that was supposed to help. It merely made my pulse and BP rise. I didn't feel any relief from the cold. I just buy and wear better gloves and good socks. I just try to stay warm...I live in central Illinois. :-) I'm going on to 72 years young in March. I guess I've proved one can live with the problem. There seems to be Raynaud's phenomenon and Raynaud's syndrom. Either, if the Insurance Companys get wind of itone can be slighted for getting insurance. But being on MedicareI don't care in my case. Thom
Re: CSurgent reply...silver build up...
Someone need to give the lady in the store some advise Know your product. Silver DOES NOT build up anywhere in the body. It is completely eliminated in 5 days. This web site will prove that CS will NOT build up anywhere in your body: http://www.silvermedicine.org/AltmanStudy.pdf Nancy - Original Message - From: debbie cozens To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 11:15 AM Subject: CSurgent reply...silver build up... Does anyone know if silver builds up in the liverthe lady at the local health shop said not to take it for more than 10 days as it builds up in the liverany comments??? Debbie -- To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.5/212 - Release Date: 12/23/2005
Re: CSRe: CS I believe I've been misdiagnosed........with Moblock type 2 when
In a message dated 12/22/05 10:02:17 AM, grace1...@aol.com writes: By the way, I tried Faith's remedy suggested for you, and it works. Don't know what I would do without it. I've finally found the sight but am slightly confused, can some one explain which exercise I should be doing, sorry to be so lame about it all, alot on my mind be well Marian Remembering Merry -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com