Re: CSCS and stomach bacteria

2005-12-22 Thread Rowena
I am confused again. If CS kills good bacteria as well
as bad, then, why is it prescribed for treating candida?


Betsy, I don't think most people find it killing their good bacteria in the 
amounts they usually use.  Our respected Terry Chamberlain, a practitioner, 
regularly drinks a pint or more (from memory), and it was only when he drank 
well over that that he noticed any problems with the intestinal flora.  Once 
he brought down his intake to his normal levels the apparent effect on the 
'good bacteria' went away.  This in my own words from memory.
Rowena
You can also use virgin coconut oil for candida.
And homeopathic remedies. 


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RE: CSCS and stomach bacteria

2005-12-22 Thread epatai
normal amounts of cadida are good for the body. Candida overgrowth causes 
problems.( too much refined and processed food)




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Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 22:42:43 -0800 (PST)

I am confused again. If CS kills good bacteria as well
as bad, then, why is it prescribed for treating candida?

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Re: CSClear CS

2005-12-22 Thread Ode Coyote



  Voltage controls ion velocity.
 A higher voltage runs through the water easier at a higher current.

Current controls ion discharge rate.
 If voltage stays constant, current increases something like exponentially 
as more and more ions are released, making the water more and more 
conductive, pulling more and more current according to the ever increasing 
rate of ion discharge. [Runaway]


 At first, in very pure water, the current rise rate is very slow for 
quite a while.  A plot of the current rise looks almost like a flat line 
which gradually  goes higher up the chart till suddenly it appears to rise 
very fast to nearly vertical.
Where you start on the flat area makes a huge difference to where you stop 
on the vertical going area if a clock is all you have.


 Heating the water increases the initial conductivity of the water putting 
you further along the current rise plot at the start.
Any difference at the beginning makes a big difference at the end if only 
time is used to determine when to stop.


Putting an ammeter in series with the electrodes allows you to monitor 
where on the current curve you are as current is directly related to 
conductivity so long as the electrodes are always placed the same way and 
the voltage stays constant.

Constantly checking with a conductivity or TDS meter will do the same thing.

 If you stabilize current to a set value by decreasing voltage ...or 
increasing distance between the electrodes...as you go to prevent it from 
rising, then the ion discharge rate stays constant and a clock can be used 
accurately...but there is still a variable 'ramp up' time till the 
generator is pulling it's set current and even that flattish part of the 
curve can vary by hours with only a slight difference in the water. [Run 
up to?]


If you use a voltage comparator chip in the circuit, you can make the 
generator stop itself wherever you set the reference voltage of your 
choice...  aka Auto off...making watching a clock and ammeter unnecessary 
to reach a given desired conductivity.



 This is how the 777, the Silvergen , Boiphysica, Colloidaltech [a new 
comer] and the Silverpuppy/Silverwell works.


 A CS Pro machine and the standard 3 nines types are constant voltage 
generators.
The CS Pro instructions to make the baking soda buffering solution is all 
about starting at the same spot so a timer will work within a decade of 
accuracy...but it's still like judging the velocity of a  bullet with a 
golf cart speedometer towards the end and making silver carbonate isn't 
exactly what we want to do.
 Add in a few degrees of temperature difference at the start, in the same 
water and it amounts to mega degrees of  PPM difference at the end.


 A constant voltage generator 'can' make nice CS and do it quite fast up 
to a point, but you have to watch it very closely, preferably with some 
instruments [and a clock ain't one of them], or one batch being anything 
like the next batch is pure luck.


 The saving grace in all this is that pure luck does OK with dosing 
intuition based on taste buds and faces made in a mirror.
 Taste buds will give you a PPM gauge range amounting to 'weak', 'strong' 
and 'rocket fuel' . The dosing difference  is in the size and 
frequency  of  glugs accordingly and the cost of each glug is less than a 
penny.


 Color has almost nothing to do with PPM.

Ode


At 10:57 AM 12/21/2005 -0600, you wrote:


Morning Terry,

Thanks for the details.

At 08:16 AM 12/21/2005, you wrote:

Later, I discovered that during the summer, when the
room is warmer, I can only brew it 50-55 minutes and
still end up with clear CS. During the winter, when
the room is cooler, I usually brew it 70-75 minutes. I
estimate the ppm to be 15-20 ppm, which is all the
strength you need (actually, it's probably overkill,
I'm sure 10 ppm is just fine).


  Likely many people overlook the temperature factor.

I notice some water variation that changes things a little.

I use near the same time factor that you use for one gallon batches.

I thought you were using 100 VDC with a system that you built.

Even though I have used 70 VDC I now use 52 VDC.

Instinct, observation, and attention takes the place of many of the 
technical factors mentioned on this list.
When a new person starts making CS, often they do not understand the 
principles which means they never will become good at it.


They fail to study enough and exert the effort required to start 
learning,  just like new computer users.


One of my computer customers called and asked a simple question.  I told 
him he should have learned that the first week he had a computer.   Many 
of these simple facts about CS is likewise true.


They should have learned the basics the first week they started making CS.


Wayne




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Re: CSH2O2 and EIS

2005-12-22 Thread Ode Coyote
 Once you know you have a cold, it's already too late to not have one, so 
no, CS won't cure that, but it can lessen the time and severity of the 
clean up a great deal.

 Or, CS helps make a cold not get worse.
 Most of the symptoms are suffered after the cold is gone.
 CS will help a lot with that beat with a lead pipe feeling very fast, 
but the guy with the pipe already messed up the living room by the time you 
noticed he was there.


The sooner you start killing of the baddies, the less crud they'll put into 
your system to eliminate later with runny nose and cough.
 They replicate at a certain rate and CS kills them at a certain rate 
depending on how much silver gets to where it needs to be and how fast your 
immune system responds.
 The further along the cold is, the more baddies there are and the faster 
the overall replication rate will be.


I find that sipping and inhaling CS mist CS all day long every day, every 
time I am reminded to do so by the cold ...till I forget to... lessens the 
time an already established cold or flu has an effect down to about 1 to 2 
days with only minor sniffles afterwards...IF, I start at the very first 
sign that a cold exists.

 Starting 2 days late doesn't do much.

 Best bet is to bar the door before the pipe swinging guy gets in.

Ode

At 11:20 AM 12/21/2005 -0600, you wrote:


Oh, ok. Will cs help to get rid of a cold once it has taken hold?
Thank you.
Shelli

- Original Message - From: Nancy DeLise nancym...@prodigy.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 11:52 PM
Subject: Re: CSH2O2 and EIS



As soon as you feel cold symptoms you need to take about an ounce of CS
every hour.  Gargle with it, spray it in your eyes, put a drop in each
nostril, put a drop in each ear.  Three times a day is not enough at the
onset of a cold.
Nancy



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Re: CSRe: CS I believe I've been misdiagnosed........with Moblock type 2 when

2005-12-22 Thread twll56

http://www.afibbers.com/forum/list.php?f=6
This site is a forum for Irregular Heartbeat/Atrial Fibulation refered to as 
AF.Tons of info




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Re: CSH2O2 and EIS

2005-12-22 Thread Ode Coyote

  Use the type that comes in a plastic squeeze bottle.
Ode

At 05:59 PM 12/21/2005 +, you wrote:

Hello, some time back someone posted information about using a Saline 
solution mist for nasal cleansing using CS in substitution to the solution 
found in the bottle when purchased. To my suspicion all the nasal mist 
spray bottles are sealed so that pressure can be maintained in the bottle.
This is what was told to me by the pharmacist. With this being said. How 
would one go about dumping the saline solution and replacing it with CS?


There must over 15 different brands and all are manufactured the same way.

Regards,

ernie



From: Shelli me...@insightbb.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSH2O2 and EIS
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 11:22:41 -0600

I did start misting my face and tried to breath it in sporadically but I 
wasn't sure with the H2O2 if I should get it in my eyes. I just wish I 
could get rid of the cough. It is keeping me, and probably my family, up 
at night. I will try to remember to mist myself when coming from 
somewhere. That sounds like a great idea.

Thanks.
Shelli


- Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: CSH2O2 and EIS


And...if you mist your eyes and hands (and maybe ears) with 
straight CS, inhaling the mist also,  every single time you are out in 
public you probably won't ever catch another cold. I mist as soon as I 
get back to my car from any shopping excursion. I am forever grateful to 
whoever it was who told me about misting as stopping the bugs at the 
entrance. The only cold I've had in 3 years is the one I caught when I 
got very sloppy and was forgetting to mist more often than not.
Many women who use makeup are very reluctant to do this, but I've found 
it doesn't mess things up if you mist from a few inches away from your 
face and just blink your eyes into the mist. It isn't necessary to spray 
from 2 inches away, nor is it necessary to wet the eyes/face enough to 
cause makeup to run.

sol



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RE: CSRE: ***Possible Spam*** Re: CSRe: Heating CS

2005-12-22 Thread cking001
On 12/22/2005 4:38:46 PM, Ode Coyote (odecoy...@alltel.net) wrote:
 Being alive is what you do when heaven gets boring?
..like taking a vacation from perfection.

Oh! That's GOOD!
I'm snagging it!!!

Chuck


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CSEIS + Oxylene for COPD

2005-12-22 Thread PanAmPete
 
 
As many on the list know, I have an advanced case of Emphysema and am  trying
various means to slow the decomposition of my lungs.  I use a  Omron 
nebulizer in
which I add my 12PPM EIS than inhale the mist for about 10 mins.  AM/PM.  I 
came
across this other product at Walgreens called Oxylene which  indicates that 
it is a
Nitric Oxide (NO) enhancer. It is suppose to improve oxygen delivery  to the 
cells,
promote max. circulation and vascular blood flow, and also increase  physical 
sta-
mina and endurance.  Does anyone on the list have any knowledge  of this 
product?
Is NO a safe substance? One of the main ingredients is Arginine  alpha 
Ketoglu
tarate(akg). Thank you,   Pete
PS between nose cancer and Emphysema I am having a wonderful  Christmas!G




Re: CSEIS + Oxylene for COPD

2005-12-22 Thread Bill Keen
Pete,
   
  It is a patented OTC product that is strictly regulated by the FDA.  That is 
all that I know about that, However, check out this:
   
H202 works wonders on a multitude of health problems. 
  It does so by increasing tissue oxygen levels. 
  It's obvious that our oxygen needs are not being met. Several of the 
most common ailments now affecting our population are directly related to 
oxygen starvation. Asthma, emphysema, and lung disease are on the rise, 
especially in the polluted metropolitan areas. Cases of constipation, diarrhea, 
intestinal parasites and bowel cancer are all on the upswing. 
   
  I found this at:  http://www.frequencyrising.com/hydrogen_peroxide.htm
  and their homepage has much more that you might want to check out.
   
  There is also:  http://www.glycoresource.com
   
  Best Wishes,  Bill Keen

panamp...@aol.com wrote:

As many on the list know, I have an advanced case of 
Emphysema and am trying
  various means to slow the decomposition of my lungs.  I use a Omron nebulizer 
in
  which I add my 12PPM EIS than inhale the mist for about 10 mins. AM/PM.  I 
came
  across this other product at Walgreens called Oxylene which indicates that 
it is a
  Nitric Oxide (NO) enhancer. It is suppose to improve oxygen delivery to the 
cells,
  promote max. circulation and vascular blood flow, and also increase physical 
sta-
  mina and endurance.  Does anyone on the list have any knowledge of this 
product?
  Is NO a safe substance? One of the main ingredients is Arginine alpha 
Ketoglu
  tarate(akg). Thank you,   Pete
  PS between nose cancer and Emphysema I am having a wonderful Christmas!G


  



Re: CSCold extremities

2005-12-22 Thread Tel Tofflemire
I have the same experience,
 I use niacin 6,000 mg per day and 6,000 mg of Cayenne pepper 90,000 HU 
(heating units) each. 
Also I use 1,000 mg of Ginkgo Bilobo per day all the dose are split in  1/2 am 
and pm .  I would suggest working up to this amount, 
and the no flush niacin is less irritating, but I take the normal flush kind 
and like it...It works for me.  I am in my 8th year doing this , 
with great results.
Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.
In a message dated 12/21/2005 5:00:15 PM Central Standard Time, 
epa...@sympatico.ca writes:
Does anyone here have experience with ?
Condition where extremities such as fingers and toes lose circulation and 
become cold.

Ernie



  Ernie:



  I have been pained with the problem for 20 some years. There doesn't seem to 
be a safe way of eliminating the problem. A lot of years ago I took a medicine 
that was supposed to help. It merely made my pulse and BP rise. I didn't feel 
any relief from the cold. I just buy and wear better gloves and good socks.   I 
just try to stay warm...I live in central Illinois. :-)

  I'm going on to 72 years young in March. I guess I've proved one can live 
with the problem.

  There seems to be Raynaud's phenomenon and Raynaud's syndrom. Either, if the 
Insurance Companys get wind of itone can be slighted for getting 
insurance.

  But being on MedicareI don't care in my case.



  Thom


Re: CSEIS + Oxylene for COPD

2005-12-22 Thread PanAmPete
 
 
I appreciate the info Bill,but the web site says to contact the  person who 
told you
about GlycoNutrition so I am asking you.  I saw where they  mentioned Asthma
and having much success which is somewhat related. If you want Email  
personally
since it is off-subject and apparently the company doe not want much  
exposure.
   Thanks, Pete




RE: CSRE: ***Possible Spam*** Re: CSRe: Heating CS

2005-12-22 Thread Ode Coyote

At 11:40 AM 12/21/2005 -0700, you wrote:


Hi Coyote,

You wrote:

 Radiation vibes aren't good or bad. They have no intent or moral
preference at all.

The same can be said of cancer.


##  That is correct.
Lately, it's being recognized that a person changing their vibes [using 
various methods including laugh therapy] makes cancer go into remission.
 It's also statistically obvious that living in a sea of carcinogens 
doesn't cause cancer...it provides increased opportunities, triggers, so 
to speak,  but one can still develop cancer without all those carcinogens.
 If vibes could be quantified, a statistical model could probably be 
tallied to show a co-relation.
 Toss in 'unconscious' intent to boot. [What you don't know that you don't 
know about yourself.]


 Being alive is what you do when heaven gets boring?
..like taking a vacation from perfection.

Ode



Jim

-Original Message-
From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net]
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 5:47 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSRE: ***Possible Spam*** Re: CSRe: Heating CS

   Some people are just plain immune to bad vibes.
  Everything is how it's perceived, not how it's projected.

  Besides, we live in a sea of microwave and other radiation.
   You will take that as you 'will'.
  You have no other choice.

  Radiation vibes aren't good or bad. They have no intent or moral
preference at all.
  Some say that water holds memory and radiation changes that memory.
  OK, so re-educate it.  It's still water. [YOU are the one that 'runs
deep']
  Your memory isn't dependent on someone elses'.
[It barely recognizes itself]

ode

At 09:14 AM 12/20/2005 -0700, you wrote:

According to Swiss Scientist Hans Hertel, microwave ovens cause literally
bad vibes to be imposed on the substances.

-Original Message-
From: V [mailto:vzo...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 1:15 AM
To: Kelburn Koontz
Subject: ***Possible Spam*** Re: CSRe: Heating CS



It is a myth about puttnig metal object in a microwave. It can be done if
you jsut follow a few simple rules. Spoons are ok but forks are not. and
any
metal can not be anywhere near the wall of the microwave. you can put an
opened metal can of food in there to heat it and it will work it jsut takes
a lot longer becaues the microwaves only come in the can from the top. and
then also you have to completely remove the top of the can. Being what the
rules are for metal in a microwave I wolud not put CS in there.
the basic rule is that any metal must be smooth and contiguous like a spoon
is an example but a fork has tines where the metal has spaces and sparks
will jump between the tines and caues a problem and thin foil is also a
problem as is any ceramicware with metalic paint on it.




Take care,
  V


  That is a good question.  I know one is not supposed to put metal
objects
in
  the microwave.  How about teeny tiny metal objects suspended in water?

  Kel


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Re: CS

2005-12-22 Thread Marshall Dudley
I think the problem with adding too much is that it forms a ratio between the
molecular ionic silver and the crystaline particulate silver, my guess is about
2:1.  When you drink it much of the ionic becomes silver chloride, which
precipitates out (except for about .8 ppm), and if you have a excess of H2O2 it
will convert much of the remaining colloid to molecular ionic which will then
precipitate out.  This has not been tested but is strictly theory. It should be
rather easy to test using H2O2, salt and EIS with a laser though.

Marshall

Jim Holmes wrote:

 My H2O2 is many months old, and 35% w/o preservative.  How critical is the
 amount?   I will toss the old stuff and get new if it is critical.

 Thanks to all.

 Jim

 -Original Message-
 From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 11:56 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CS

 That would be for 3% USP like you get in a drug store for topical use.

 Marshall

 Jim Holmes wrote:

  Can someone clarify for me the concentration of H2O2 to use when putting 2
  drops in 8 ounces.  Should it be 3.5% or 35%.
 
  TIA,
 
  Jim
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net]
  Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 5:23 AM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CS
 
  At 09:53 AM 12/20/2005 -0600, you wrote:
 
  Please give me some clarification
  
  Is H2o2Topical Hydrogen Peroxide?
  
  I have heard of people putting Hydrogen Peroxide in the CSare they
  using Topical Hydrogen Peroxide that you put on external sores?
 
##  That is correct..off the shelf 3%.
  Ode
 
  
  I start making my CS at home and have been drinking it for about 6
  months...I feel that the CS goes through my body to fast too and would
  like to get a deep affect from the CS.
 
  ## Elimination rate IS quite fast..which also makes it very safe to use a
  LOT, like quarts even,  at least for a while.
  Ode
 
  
  Thanks for your help
  
  Gwlynda
  
  
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  From: Nancy DeLise [mailto:nancym...@prodigy.net]
  Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 11:34 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE
  
  I took 16- 20 oz. of my home made Cs for 2 1/2 years.  When I learned
  about Sovereign Silver, I took 2 teaspoons four times a day.  Now that I
  am about 90 % cured  of my MS, I take 8 oz. of my home made in the
 morning
  and 2 teaspoons of Sovereign Silver two times a day.(MS is a virus and I
  would never stop completely)
   As far as the H2o2, I put 1 drop of H2o2 into 2 oz. of CS and let it
   sit for about 15 minutes.  The H2o2 interacts with the silver and causes
   the particles to break up into much smaller particles, and more of it
   gets utilized by the body rather then just going thru quickly.
  Nancy
  - Original Message -
  From: mailto:granb...@msn.comGreg Ball
  To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 11:09 PM
  Subject: Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE
  
  Nancy - I may have missed this in another post, but how much sovereign
 did
  you take, and did you combine that with homemade? Also, how did you make
  your homemade silver?
  
  Lastly, why mix the silver with the H202? I have an ozone machine and can
  drink ozone water. Would this be the same because it ads oxygen? or is
  there something about the peroxide thats unique? Does it combine somehow
  with the silver?
  
  Thanks so much for sharing!
  
  
  
  
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Re: CSH2O2 and EIS

2005-12-22 Thread Ode Coyote

 Fill with a syringe and needle?
 Squeeze flat, submerge orifice in CS and let go. [the reverse of emptying 
it, squeeze bulb style]


ode

At 07:08 PM 12/21/2005 +, you wrote:

My apologizes.. They are plastic flatish squeeze bottles. They are all 
sealed and the tops cannot be removed. Does any




From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com
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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSH2O2 and EIS
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 13:54:24 -0500

epa...@sympatico.ca wrote:

 Hello, some time back someone posted information about using a Saline
 solution mist for nasal cleansing using CS in substitution to the solution
 found in the bottle when purchased. To my suspicion all the nasal mist 
spray

 bottles are sealed so that pressure can be maintained in the bottle.
 This is what was told to me by the pharmacist. With this being said. How
 would one go about dumping the saline solution and replacing it with CS?

 There must over 15 different brands and all are manufactured the same way.

They use to use squeeze bottles.  If they are using factory pressurized 
bottles

now, see if you can find an older style that you squeeze to make it spray.
Those are easy to refill.

Marshall



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CSCS misting

2005-12-22 Thread Chad
hi

do i have this right all i need a spray bottle w/ CS? spray it on my face  rub 
in after leaving work, stores, etc.. or is there more involved that what i 
stated? 

thanks alot
chad

CSCS: Scleroderma supps.PABA,VIT.C,DMAE

2005-12-22 Thread Harold MacDonald
These supplements should be available at any good H.F. store;except in Canada 
where DMAE is banned by Health Canada,[US equivalent is FDA].
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Re: CSClear CS

2005-12-22 Thread Marshall Dudley
Terry Chamberlin wrote:

 tia said,
 ok Terry... so how do we go about making crystal
 clear CS/EIS?
 can i expect to obtain such a product by using a
 colloidal master 777?

 For me, making CS is a simple matter. I don't worry
 about what the ppm is, or particle size, I simply try
 to brew it as long as I can and still end up with
 clear CS.

 With my own device (a Metabolic Solutions CSB10), I
 set up ten 1-gallon pickle jars with one quart of CS
 in each jar. I fill up each jar the rest of the way
 with DW, hang the silver wires down inside in each jar
 and brew for one hour. I discovered that one hour was
 the right brewing time by brewing a batch for 30
 minutes. It was crystal clear. Next batch I brewed it
 40 minutes, then 50 minutes, and kept gradually
 increasing the brewing time each batch until I got a
 yellow batch (which I and my family drank). The last
 clear batch happened to be 60 minutes. If I brewed it
 70 minutes, it turned yellow.

 Later, I discovered that during the summer, when the
 room is warmer, I can only brew it 50-55 minutes and
 still end up with clear CS. During the winter, when
 the room is cooler, I usually brew it 70-75 minutes. I
 estimate the ppm to be 15-20 ppm, which is all the
 strength you need (actually, it's probably overkill,
 I'm sure 10 ppm is just fine).

What is your setup? I would not expect the brew time to change
significantly if you are using constant current.  If you are using
constant current, then aggregation vs temperature may be more temperature
dependent than I had originally thought.

Marshall



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Re: CSCS and stomach bacteria

2005-12-22 Thread Marshall Dudley
First thing is, there is no such thing as good bacteria and bad
bacteria.  The closest you can come is gram positive and gram negative,
or aerobic and anaerobic bacteria.  Bacteria have no morals, they simply
do what they do, which is attempt to live and multiply in whatever
environment they are in.  Salmonellia are a necessary part of nature in
breaking down food and thus normally perform a good function, but they
can produce toxins that can cause a person a lot of distress as well. E
Coli are absolutely essential for proper disgestion in the intestines,
but if they end up in the blood stream or vagina can wreck havoc. Yeast
is useful for making bread, wine and beer, but you don't want it growing
in a vagina. Usually the difference between good bacteria and bad
bacteria is not the bacteria itself, but rather where they are living.
Good bacteria are bad if in the wrong place.  Now in many cases
bacteria that aerobic are preforming a good function, yet under
conditions of restricted oxygen will switch to anaerobic, and when they
do that they produce toxins.  Once again, they are the same bacteria, but
whether they are good or bad depends on you definition of those terms and
their environment.

So the killing power needs to not depend on the actual bacteria, but on
the environment they are in. That is exactly what CS does, it is very
effective if it has mobility, IE in the blood stream, stomach and mouth,
but almost completely ineffective if in a gel or solid matrix where it
has no mobility, like in a healthy intestine.  Only if one has the runs
would it be effective, and in that case you want it to kill what is in
the intestines anyway, you can always repopulate it later when you have
cured the runs.

This is not to say that CS is not useful topically, while it is wet it
has mobility, and when it dries, it is typically deposited onto the
surface of the skin or wound where it is needed.

Marshall



Betsy Coffey wrote:

 I am confused again. If CS kills good bacteria as well
 as bad, then, why is it prescribed for treating candida?

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Re: CSBottles - A Good Source

2005-12-22 Thread Tel Tofflemire
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  From: Michael Mahoney 
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  Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 11:25 PM
  Subject: CSBottles - A Good Source


  Several years ago I purchased some very nice small
  bottles with atomizers from:

   Sunburst Bottle Company
   4500 Beloit Drive
   Sacramento, CA 95838


  A good place to start:
  http://www.sunburstbottle.com/site/index.html


  They have nearly any size bottle you may want.
  Glass bottles and jars in various colors.
  Plastic bottles and jars in various colors.

  The atomizer on the smaller glass boston
  round bottles I purchased work very well for
  misting CS into the eyes.

  They have no minimum order.


  Disclamer:
  I have no affiliation with this company other
  than as a satisfied customer.


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Re: CSRE: ***Possible Spam*** Re: CSRe: Heating CS

2005-12-22 Thread starshar

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Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 10:38 AM



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..like taking a vacation from perfection.


That struck me as so right I just had to save it in my collection of 
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Thanks, Ode

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Re: CSH2O2 and EIS

2005-12-22 Thread Marshall Dudley
Ode Coyote wrote:

   Once you know you have a cold, it's already too late to not have one, so
 no, CS won't cure that, but it can lessen the time and severity of the
 clean up a great deal.


That probably depends on how aware you are of your body's messages. A cold for
me almost always starts off with a scratchy throat. I have maybe 3 or 4 hours
to start dosing with CS, and if I do so, sipping a little CS every few minutes
over a couple of hour period, I can consistently stop the cold dead in it's
tracts. Sometimes it will try to come back 6 or 8 hours later, and sometimes it
won't, but if it does, I simply repeat the sipping of CS, and after trying to
come back no more than 3 or 4 times, which gives the body plenty of time to
identify it and build up a little immunity to it, it will no longer come back.
On top of that, I become immune to that particular variety just like I had
caught it.

Marshall



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Re: CSCS misting

2005-12-22 Thread sol
Don't know that you need it, but misting keeps me from catching colds 
and flus. I am very susceptible to them.

No need to rub it in. .

do i have this right all i need a spray bottle w/ CS? spray it on my 
face  rub in after leaving work, stores, etc.. or is there more 
involved that what i stated?
 
thanks alot

chad




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CSRe: CS and stomach bacteria

2005-12-22 Thread sol
This brings up a question, are there any aerobic bacteria in mammal 
intestines?

sol

Marshall Dudley wrote:


First thing is, there is no such thing as good bacteria and bad
bacteria.  The closest you can come is gram positive and gram negative,
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CSurgent reply...silver build up...

2005-12-22 Thread debbie cozens
Does anyone know if silver builds up in the liverthe lady at the local 
health shop said not to take it for more than 10 days as it builds up in the 
liverany comments???
  Debbie




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Re: CSEIS + Oxylene for COPD

2005-12-22 Thread 4optimallife
AOL EmailHave you looked into and can afford intravenous Hydrogen peroxide for 
your emphysema and cancer?

For more information, do a google search on intravenous hydrogen peroxide



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  From: panamp...@aol.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 9:33 AM
  Subject: CSEIS + Oxylene for COPD


As many on the list know, I have an advanced case of Emphysema and am 
trying
various means to slow the decomposition of my lungs.  I use a Omron 
nebulizer in
which I add my 12PPM EIS than inhale the mist for about 10 mins. AM/PM. 
 I came
across this other product at Walgreens called Oxylene which indicates 
that it is a
Nitric Oxide (NO) enhancer. It is suppose to improve oxygen delivery to 
the cells,
promote max. circulation and vascular blood flow, and also increase 
physical sta-
mina and endurance.  Does anyone on the list have any knowledge of this 
product?
Is NO a safe substance? One of the main ingredients is Arginine alpha 
Ketoglu
tarate(akg). Thank you,   Pete
PS between nose cancer and Emphysema I am having a wonderful 
Christmas!G 


CSBruce Lipton Biologist. Incredible stuff

2005-12-22 Thread Jim Holmes
Jeff Rense Program  www.rense.com http://www.rense.com/  , 12 21-05 9:00
PM, probably 9:30. 

 

Electromagnetic fields from the brain control gene expression. 

 

Sensory input reprograms the gene expression determined by senses and
thoughts and feelings. 

 

They discussed earlier Russian work.  Dish with same culture medium but
separated by glass wall. Cell cultures on both sides, but isolated
physically.  One side is inoculated with virulent pathogen.  The other side
will die without actual inoculation; via energy.  Same technique used with
CA, and normal cells become CA when CA put on the other side. 

 

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RE: CSCS misting

2005-12-22 Thread Richard Harris
Hi Sol  Chad,

Thanks to each of you for your generous sharing of useful CS info for us
seekers! I use and recommend the handy spray-mist bottle to spray on face
and hands when dealing with problem people and at bedtime, I spray CS mist
into open eyes to refresh them, in each nostril alternating 3 times with the
opposite nostril closed and sniffing, and twice into each ear (I'm told that
the ear is the source of colds  flu).

Read my Site  Blogspot for 3 FREE pages of CS Uses and 1 page of CS
Favorites to which I refer often. Let me know if I can be of help.

Merry Christmas and the most Happy  Prosperous New Year ever!

Sincerely,
___
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448 West Juniata Street
Clermont, FL 34711
http://www.rharrisinc.com
http://www.seasilver.com/reh
http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com





-Original Message-
From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 12:08 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCS misting


Don't know that you need it, but misting keeps me from catching colds
and flus. I am very susceptible to them.
No need to rub it in. .

 do i have this right all i need a spray bottle w/ CS? spray it on my
 face  rub in after leaving work, stores, etc.. or is there more
 involved that what i stated?

 thanks alot
 chad



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Re: CScs as an injection ?!?

2005-12-22 Thread debbie cozens
k!! Im too much of a bay to experiment this way...and im trying to be 
wise with my health not ruin it..but it was something that crossed my 
mind...think ill stick tot he cs sprays and taking it orally...
  Debbie :-)

Nancy DeLise nancym...@prodigy.net wrote:
  First I would not use home made CS and second,I do not think I would 
add the sodium-chlorideWhy sodium?  I do not believe it should be mixed 
with anything.  The Argentyn23 which is what professionals use for IV's tells 
you NOT to dilute it with anything.
  Let us know what you do and what the outcome is
  Nancy  
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  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 3:58 AM
  Subject: CScs as an injection ?!?
  

  Oki..
   
  My friend coming next week and his have injection for diabetes ! !
   
  Going to mix cs with sodium-chloride ..(hope i survive) ! ? !
   
  Just kidding !!  Try  to my WIFE  ( lol ) he he ...
   
  /peter
   
   

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Re: CSRe: CS and stomach bacteria

2005-12-22 Thread Norm
hi Sol...with regard to aerobic bacteria ..acidophiles
bacteria comes to mind..I remember reading that it is
found on everything live we eat that is freshly killed
or picked and raw...plant life is sprayed and domestic
animals are treated in many cases with antibiotics and
they don't care what type of bacteria or flora it is
...it kills it all...so E coli for one gets to be
dominant in the colon of the host infected..
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Re: CSEIS + Oxylene for COPD

2005-12-22 Thread Marmar845
In a message dated 12/22/05 8:34:23 AM Central Standard Time, 
panamp...@aol.com writes:


 between nose cancer and Emphysema I am having a wonderful Christmas!

Aww Pete -- I'm sorry that you're dealing with all of this, Christmas or not. 
 I hope that you find solutions for both problems, and live many more 
unfettered years.  MA


RE: CSurgent reply...silver build up...

2005-12-22 Thread Richard Harris
Hi Debbie,

 I believe that properly made CS is safe for Anyone, of Any age or size, for
Any problem or condition taking Any kind of medication or treatment at any
dose daily for many years without Any side reactions. Safe to take up to 1/2
gallon daily (I don't recommend this large amount--wasteful, but safe) in
divided doses--the only side reaction if you have a bad infection, is a
Herxheimer reaction until the stool  bladder can eliminate the killed
pathogens. I take my first dose in the morning: 1 oz 10ppm CS + 2 oz
Gatorade (as an electrolyte which can take CS deeper into body tissues than
CS can go alone) in a juice glass--holding a mouthful in mouth for 2
minutes, then swallow  repeat until glass is empty. Holding each dose in
mouth for 2 minutes, allows many CS colloids to be absorbed under tongue
directly into the blood stream seeking pathogens to kill, then swallow CS to
be digested through the system. After the first dose, I use CS alone  if I
feel something coming on, I recommend taking a mouthful every 30 minutes to
1 hour thruout the day till you no longer feel the threat.

Read my Site and Blogspot and find FREE 3 pages of CS Uses and 1 page of CS
Favorites to which I refer often. Let me know if I can be of help.

Sincerely,
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448 West Juniata Street
Clermont, FL 34711
http://www.rharrisinc.com
http://www.seasilver.com/reh
http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com


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  From: debbie cozens [mailto:debbiecoz...@yahoo.co.uk]
  Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 12:16 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: CSurgent reply...silver build up...


  Does anyone know if silver builds up in the liverthe lady at the local
health shop said not to take it for more than 10 days as it builds up in the
liverany comments???
  Debbie





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Re: CSRe: CS I believe I've been misdiagnosed........with Moblock type 2 when

2005-12-22 Thread Grace1way
 
In a message dated 12/21/2005 11:43:42 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
faithstfran...@hotmail.com writes:

flutterings in my chest for the past week


Marian:
 
It sounds like you have the same thing I have from time to time.  I  don't go 
to medical doctors, because I've tried that, and they want to give me a  
scary diagnosis (which is just a latin name for the symptoms, which I already  
know).  They also offered to prescribe medication for the rest of my  life.  
 
However, I discovered, and you may also, that the problem is intermittent  
and associated with certain allergens which affect the heart meridian.  In  my 
case (not necessarily yours), I found that there were three different items  
which caused the same symptoms as you describe.  Muscle testing identified  
them, and after the allergens were removed, or treated, the problem ceased  
immediately.  The allergens were formaldehyde in new unwashed curtains by  the 
bed 
(symptoms only when in bed), various kinds of wood, including pressed  wood 
with formaldehyde, and estrogen imbalance.  My present bout is  probably due to 
apple allergy.  Think back to when the present episode  started.  Did you start 
to breathe, eat, touch, wear or drink anything  different than before.  
Stress may play a part as well, just putting you  over the edge with respect 
to 
allergy.
 
By the way, I tried Faith's remedy suggested for you, and it works.   Don't 
know what I would do without it.
 
Take care,
 
Jill


CS Re: Bottles - A Good Source

2005-12-22 Thread Catherine Creel
 Regarding bottles, I've found www.specialtybottles.com to be least
expensive with no minimum.

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Re: CSRe: CS and stomach bacteria

2005-12-22 Thread Marshall Dudley
None of the bacteria in the intestines that are living and multiplying are
going to be in aerobic mode (although some can be aerobic when in an
oxygenated atmosphere). The intestines contain virtually no oxygen, and any
gases will be reducing, such as methane and hydrogen sulfide.

Marshall

sol wrote:

 This brings up a question, are there any aerobic bacteria in mammal
 intestines?
 sol

 Marshall Dudley wrote:

 First thing is, there is no such thing as good bacteria and bad
 bacteria.  The closest you can come is gram positive and gram negative,
 or aerobic and anaerobic bacteria.
 

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Re: CSurgent reply...silver build up...

2005-12-22 Thread Marshall Dudley
I don't know, I have no reason to suspect that it does. But if it is
totally harmless, and kills pathogens, then should one concern
themselves with it depositing in the liver, if it does?

Marshall

debbie cozens wrote:

 Does anyone know if silver builds up in the liverthe lady at the
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Re: CSBruce Lipton Biologist. Incredible stuff

2005-12-22 Thread Marshall Dudley
Do you have to be a member to get to that?

Marshall

Jim Holmes wrote:

 Jeff Rense Program  www.rense.com , 12 21-05 9:00 PM, probably 9:30.

 Electromagnetic fields from the brain control gene expression.

 Sensory input reprograms the gene expression determined by senses and
 thoughts and feelings.

 They discussed earlier Russian work.  Dish with same culture medium
 but separated by glass wall. Cell cultures on both sides, but isolated
 physically.  One side is inoculated with virulent pathogen.  The other
 side will die without actual inoculation; via energy.  Same technique
 used with CA, and normal cells become CA when CA put on the other
 side.

 www.brucelipton.com

 Jim



Re: CSRe: CS and stomach bacteria

2005-12-22 Thread sol

Thanks, that is what I thought.
sol

Marshall Dudley wrote:


None of the bacteria in the intestines that are living and multiplying are
going to be in aerobic mode (although some can be aerobic when in an
oxygenated atmosphere). The intestines contain virtually no oxygen, and any
gases will be reducing, such as methane and hydrogen sulfide.

Marshall

 




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Re: CSBruce Lipton Biologist. Incredible stuff

2005-12-22 Thread 4optimallife
Bruce Lipton is one of my heroes.  I have his book and 3 videos.  I recommend 
the last one, Nature, Nurture  the Power of Love:  Conscious Parenting  The 
Biology of Belief is a little more technical and does not focus on the 
parenting although it does show us how our thoughts affect our body.

Kallie Miller

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Safe magnetic sleep pads, antioxidant, alkalizing water filters, zappers 
 
 

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Re: CSFood Poisoning ( Rotten Hamburger )

2005-12-22 Thread Grace1way
My experience with food poisoning is to down a quart of CS, along with a  
couple pieces of burned toast (or commercially prepared activated charcoal) to  
absorb toxins.  Repeatedly works in 20 minutes.
 
Jill


Re: CSRe: CS I believe I've been misdiagnosed........with Moblock type 2 when

2005-12-22 Thread Merywolf7

In a message dated 12/22/05 10:02:17 AM, grace1...@aol.com writes:

 By the way, I tried Faith's remedy suggested for you, and it works.   
Don't 
know what I would do without it. 

Thanks, Im reading my email backwards so am anxious to read it.
be well
and many holiday wishes come true for all of us
Marian and Hounds


Remembering Merry


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Re: CSRe: CS I believe I've been misdiagnosed........with Moblock type 2 when

2005-12-22 Thread Merywolf7
Faith,
I am so grateful to you for your advice and will be doing this today, I will 
respond to you and the list...my life has been SUPER stressful since  
August but the last three years particularly. Loosing my Mother 2 years ago, my 
Father 1 year ago, facing the possible of a much beloved family member..the 
tragic loss of 2 of my own dogs to distemper and 3 of my coveted 
rescues..I am grateful to you for reaching out.
I am going to go visiting another Irish Wolfhounder today and try to relax, 
and am anxious to come back and proceed with this procedure.
Most respectfully,
Marian Temple  and Hounds
Heartsong Irish Wolfhounds


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Re: CSRe: CS I believe I've been misdiagnosed........with Moblock type 2 when

2005-12-22 Thread Merywolf7
Faith,

I have tried the website three times and it keeps coming up error, please 
advise.
Be well
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Re: CSRe: CS and stomach bacteria

2005-12-22 Thread Norm
I googled intestinal aerobic bacteria and up came
186,000 hits
suggesting such things as a constant war in the gut
between aerobic and anaerobic flora aka
bacteria...cellular oxygen shortages in unhealthy sick
individuals depleting good aka aerobic bacteria in the
bowel and an increase in anaerobic bacteria causing
worsening of symptoms of illness..
Norm 






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Re: CScs as an injection ?!?

2005-12-22 Thread alltogethernow
There has been some kind of miscommunication on this subject. The person
-Peter- brought up the sod. chloride/CS after I mentioned sod. clhoride
in a question to Marshal re; Vit C iv.
 I think English is not his first language, and at first I thought he
was being a wiseguy. Maybe he was; I don't know...
 One of our resident brainiacs got curious about sodium bicarbonate
(baking soda) when I mentioned it re: vit c and now...you need a
program to follow along
 As to the IV / CS, fwiw, I got my doc to contact and buy the Argentyn
silver for iv use; which he did, (he showed me the 1200 ppm large vial-
looked like brown sludge) but then he contacted  his lawyer and was told
that he cannot legally  give it to me.
 I would not use homeade CS either, for one reason, there would be too
much water needed- and straight water is toxic.
 Sodium would be needed to buffer the water, but would make the silver
toxic. 
 As of now, I am working on doing the Vit C IVs...


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Re: CSRe: CS and stomach bacteria

2005-12-22 Thread sol
I'm not sure all aerobic bacteria are non-pathogenic, but I do know for 
certain that not all anerobic bacteria are pathogens.

sol


Norm wrote:


I googled intestinal aerobic bacteria and up came
186,000 hits
suggesting such things as a constant war in the gut
between aerobic and anaerobic flora aka
bacteria...cellular oxygen shortages in unhealthy sick
individuals depleting good aka aerobic bacteria in the
bowel and an increase in anaerobic bacteria causing
worsening of symptoms of illness..
Norm 







 




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Re: CSRe: CS I believe I've been misdiagnosed........with Moblock type 2 when

2005-12-22 Thread Marmar845
Marian -- Faith missed a letter when he gave you the web addy.  It should be 
www.healinghands.org.   He missed the *g* in healing.  MA


Re: CSRe: CS I believe I've been misdiagnosed........with Moblock type 2 when

2005-12-22 Thread Marmar845
Well, scratch that -- I got to a website alright, but it was a ministerial 
one, not Faith's.  We'll have to wait to hear from him then. MA


Re: CSRe: CS I believe I've been misdiagnosed........with Moblock type 2 when

2005-12-22 Thread Grace1way
I did the same thing.  Note that Faith's website is healinhands, not  
healinghands.
 
Jill


Re: CSRe: CS I believe I've been misdiagnosed........with Moblock type 2 when

2005-12-22 Thread Marmar845
In a message dated 12/22/05 2:01:35 PM Central Standard Time, 
grace1...@aol.com writes:


 Note that Faith's website is healinhands, not healinghands.

And using that web addy, I went right to it Jill -- thanks. MA


CSEIS + Oxylene for COPD

2005-12-22 Thread Dan Nave
I just read a book called Hydrogen Peroxide Medical Miracle by William 
Campbell Douglass, MD.  In it he indicates that Hydrogen Peroxide (in 
very small quantities) given intravenously works extremely well for 
Emphysema.


He wrote:

I am convinced that with peroxide therapy we finally have an effective 
treatment for these severely afflicted people.  With the first 
treatment, the patient will often seem to get immediately worse, with 
violent coughing and production of copious amounts of phlegm.  You can 
actually turn the coughing on and off by turning the infusion on and off.


Dr. Charles Farr, the pioneer in peroxide therapy in this country, 
calls it the Alka-Seltzer effect.  The oxygen seems to bubble up between 
the membrane lining and the pus, thus propelling the pus upward.  This 
stimulates coughing and removal of all the junk that has accumulated in 
the lungs.  The end result is a very happy patient.


Chronic lung disease is not the only place for hydrogen peroxide by any 
means.  But it is certainly one of the most dramatic uses for this safe 
and effective therapy.


Hydrogen peroxide may also be effective on the skin cancer as well...

The amount used for intravenous injection is very small and should be 
done by a physician.  In one place it says, Send $5 and a written 
request for a list of doctors to IOMA, P.O. Box 891954, Oklahoma City, 
OK 73189 and in another place Robert Jay Rowen, MD President of IOMA 
says (after a list of some MDs who do this) Please send your tax 
deductible donations IBOMF, P.O. Box 30006, Edmond, OK 73003.  so I 
suppose you could get references from one of these addresses.  I bet 
both Dr.s have websites too. (IBOMF = International Bio-Oxidative 
Medicine Foundation, and IOMA = International Oxidative Medicine 
Association?)


Pete, what state are you in?

Dan




Subject: CSEIS + Oxylene for COPD
From: panamp...@aol.com
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 09:33:02 EST
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

As many on the list know, I have an advanced case of Emphysema and am 
trying various means to slow the decomposition of my lungs.  I use a 
Omron nebulizer in which I add my 12PPM EIS than inhale the mist for 
about 10 mins.  AM/PM.  I came across this other product at Walgreens 
called Oxylene which indicates that it is a Nitric Oxide (NO) 
enhancer.  It is suppose to improve oxygen delivery to the cells, 
promote max.  circulation and vascular blood flow, and also increase 
physical sta- mina and endurance.


Does anyone on the list have any knowledge of this product? Is NO a 
safe substance? One of the main ingredients is Arginine alpha Ketoglu 
tarate(akg).


Thank you,

Pete

PS between nose cancer and Emphysema I am having a wonderful Christmas!G




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Re: CSRaynauds phenommenon?

2005-12-22 Thread James McCourt, Ph.D.
Or fear, especially combat. Seems to be body's rx to limit blood flow to
extremities. Useful for minor wounds. Anger is suppressed combat urge.

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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 5:50 PM
Subject: CSRaynauds phenommenon?


 Someone who had/has it and has mostly gotten over it describes it as a
 phenomenon due to repressed anger...

 Dan



 Subject:Re: CSH2O2 and EIS
 From:epa...@sympatico.ca
 Date:Wed, 21 Dec 2005 22:58:37 +
 To:silver-list@eskimo.com

 Does anyone here have experience with Raynauds phenomenon?
 Condition where extremities such as fingers and toes lose circulation
 and become cold.

 Ernie


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CS[List Owner] I'm back...

2005-12-22 Thread M. G. Devour
Hi folks,

I've been silent for the last week for the simple reason I wasn't here.

We were called to Florida to attend my wife's Dad's death and funeral. 
Rosie's family is quite close, and we all flew or drove down when word 
came that he was close to the end. Though he's been terminally ill for 
some time, it was still very hard for everyone, as he was a really 
special person to a lot of people, not least his wife and children.

I was only able to log on to a computer a couple of times while we were 
gone, and only enough to a) delete the thousands of bounce messages and 
spam, and b) observe that there didn't seem to be a great melt-down 
happening on the list.

There were a couple of complaints in my in-box about excessive message 
volume and topic wandering, plus a few of you seem to have forgotten 
that you *must* turn off your fancy formatting and send plain text if 
you're going to get your messages past the 18k message size limit.

I'm going through the backlog of messages now, and will probably post a 
message or two asking for topics to be ended or moved, plus anything 
else I see needing a tweak.

Altogether, and in anticipation of my reading of all your messages, I 
believe thanks are in order for your carrying on so well in my absence.

Peace, my friends.

Mike Devour
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CSBev's Lyme disease...

2005-12-22 Thread M. G. Devour
Folks, is there anybody with other suggestions for Bev? She's dealing 
with Lyme complicated by past chemotherapy, it seems.

There are people who've done amazing things against deep seated Lyme 
using Rife, electrical devices, and numerous other therapies besides 
CS. Can we get a brief re-hash of some of this, please?

One source i was thinking about was Bryan Posner's book: 

   http://www.lymebook.com/

I haven't read it, but know enough to suspect it's worth the read.

Any others?

Thanks,

Mike D.
 
 Andrea,
 
 I have had lyme disease with no co infections for 8 yrs.  I have used
 sovernign silver but quite frankly, the silver does not help me at
 all. I  tried for several months with an MD who is also alternative. 
 I truly wished it had helped as antibiotics do their damage too.  I
 have no alternative at this point.  I have a generator that I bought
 and now don't  use.  My dr. recommended it. 
 
 I was about to unsubscribe from this list as there are so many that
 don't  help a lyme disease person from what I can see and yet I
 haven't as yet.  I  wish there was a lyme/silver only list that I could
 rely on. Also,  this bacteria is so tricky and each of our bodies are
 so different.  I have  gone thru breast cancer in 81 and it was in my
 lymph nodes and wasn't suppose to  survive. I had a year of
 chemotherapy and I'm aliver after so many years  ago. If someone can
 truly tell me a similar story with cancer/chemo and  now lyme disease I
 guess that would help.  Chemo does permanant damage and now the
 bacteria is having a field day. 
 
 I do trust SS and there is a gal in Texas that was able to get it for
 me at  cost.  If that is of help send me your information and I'll try
 to help.  For now, I am on Bicillin LA for the past 4 months and
 herxing like  crazy. 
 
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Re: CSCS misting

2005-12-22 Thread cari smith
I may be totally off base but don't you want to expose yourself to some germs 
to keep your immune system strong and up to par...killing everything you come 
in contact with is like a remote immune system and not using or boosting the 
one you have...I think colds are good but the over the counter meds are bad 
they just drive the virus deeper like the lungs or intestineswhen i started 
working after 15 years at a grocery store near the pharmacy I caught 2 colds in 
two months and now nothing..my immune system needed to make antibodies to 
protect me from my surroundings...nurish the body best thing you could do to 
protect you from germs...
   
cari

sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote:
  Don't know that you need it, but misting keeps me from catching colds 
and flus. I am very susceptible to them.
No need to rub it in. .

 do i have this right all i need a spray bottle w/ CS? spray it on my 
 face  rub in after leaving work, stores, etc.. or is there more 
 involved that what i stated?
 
 thanks alot
 chad



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CSCOPD and IV H2O2

2005-12-22 Thread Dan Nave

From Douglass' book:

Severe COPD (chronic obstructive pulmonary disease):  Initial 250 ml of 
0.15 percent, which caused significant alveolar debridement and coughing 
up of copious amount of purulent material.  Continued weekly infusions 
for six weeks, and by the end of the sixth treatment, the patient no 
longer was coughing.  Comment: Pulmonary function improved and the 
patient returned to working full-time.  Maintained on treatment 
according to patient's feel the need, which recurs approximately every 
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RE: CSRe: controversey

2005-12-22 Thread M. G. Devour
 The ashen grey could be from being in government so long.  Why blame
 the silver? 

 Hi Cari, The blue man is a US Representative that made his home brew
 EIS (aka CS) using Montana well water. 

Let's correct a couple of misconceptions that are creeping in here:

Stan Jones was a CANDIDATE for US Senate of the Libertarian party in 
Montana in 2002.

He made his brew using tap water and well water from various sources 
over time, added additional electrolytes, and brewed for extended 
periods of time. Then he drank these muddy concoctions daily for a 
couple of years or so.

 I agree.  However Stan being blue in that phoe has more to do with
 photoshop than his taking this witchs brew of silver compounds.  I have
 seen the original unretouched photo of him, and he is no more blue than
 anyone else. Associate Press doctored the photo, either because they
 thought it would make a better story, or they got paid to do so by pharm
 interests.  He is slightly ashen colored though. 

This is true. His condidtion is quite mild from what I've heard, and 
the Smurf-like visage with the orange hair that was published in the 
press was the obvious result of a Photoshop effort by an unscrupulous 
photographer or journalist.

I want to caution Bob and Marshall to both mind their tone towards each 
other. Regardless of who started it it is improper to engage in 
rudeness on the list! Please, gentlemen, conduct yourselves in in the 
helpful, considerate fashion which is your norm.

Be well,

Mike D.

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CSMiscel

2005-12-22 Thread Terry Chamberlin
e said,
“Would the B3 not cause flushing everywhere else too?
Or would non flush B3 work as well?”

Yes, niacin would cause an all-over flush. ItÂ’s not
bad, and some folks like it. (I donÂ’t.) But the flush
tends to occur in the face and extremities, and it
only lasts a few minutes (well, maybe 15-20). The
point would be to stimulate the extremities, to get
blood and energy flowing, to see what repairs or
balancing the niacin might do. ItÂ’s a harmless
experiment that might help. Niacin also stabilizes
blood sugar, balances brain chemistry
neurotransmitters, and is used in megadoses (30
grams/day) by orthomolecular doctors to very
effectively treat schizophrenia. The non-flush B3
(niacinamide) does not cause the flush, but neither
does it have the same benefits. Also, if the niacin is
used every day, the flush diminishes and eventually
stops. A person is then able to gradually increase the
dosage for pronounced and increased benefits.
Actually, although I suggested 500 mg/day, it would be
a better idea to get 100 mg tablets, start small and
work up to as much as is comfortable.

Jim said,
“My H2O2 is many months old, and 35% w/o preservative.
How critical is the amount? I will toss the old stuff
and get new if it is critical.” 

Food grade H2O2 has no stabilizer chemicals to prevent
oxygen evaporation, so it can lose strength over time.
But if the bottle has been sealed, it can last for a
very long time, since the oxygen cannot escape. The
easiest way to check is to put some of the H2O2 on a
not-so-clean surface (floor, toilet bowl, shower
curtain) and see if it fizzes up. If it does, it is
still usable.

Betsy said,
“I am confused again. If CS kills good bacteria as
well as bad, then, why is it prescribed for treating
candida?”

The problem with Candida is that it gets out of the
colon and invades the body. Generous CS usage fights
the Candida in your blood stream. The only way to get
CS into your colon is with colonic implants. The
safety of using CS is that it is quite difficult to
get CS to where it can kill the good bacteria. See the
next paragraph.

Rowena said,
“Our respected Terry Chamberlin, a practitioner,
regularly drinks a pint or more (from memory), and it
was only when he drank well over that that he noticed
any problems with the intestinal flora.”

Actually, I drink at least a quart per day, have for
about six years, and I have never had any problems
with it affecting my intestinal flora.







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RE: CSBruce Lipton Biologist. Incredible stuff

2005-12-22 Thread Jim Holmes
Marshall,

 

Rense's live show is open; anyone can listen.  Access to the archives costs
six dollars a month.  The free link is often overloaded.  

 

You can get to Lipton's site at www.brucelipton.com 

 

The book in which he details his research is called The Biology of Belief.
31 dollars with  shipping. 

 

Jim

 

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From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] 

Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 11:21 AM

To: silver-list@eskimo.com

Subject: Re: CSBruce Lipton Biologist. Incredible stuff

 

Do you have to be a member to get to that? 

Marshall 

Jim Holmes wrote: 

Jeff Rense Program  www.rense.com , 12 21-05 9:00 PM, probably 9:30.

Electromagnetic fields from the brain control gene expression.  

Sensory input reprograms the gene expression determined by senses and
thoughts and feelings.  

They discussed earlier Russian work.  Dish with same culture medium but
separated by glass wall. Cell cultures on both sides, but isolated
physically.  One side is inoculated with virulent pathogen.  The other side
will die without actual inoculation; via energy.  Same technique used with
CA, and normal cells become CA when CA put on the other side.  

www.brucelipton.com 

Jim  



RE: CSBruce Lipton Biologist. Incredible stuff

2005-12-22 Thread Jim Holmes
I look forward to learning his work. 

 

Jim

 

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From: 4optimallife [mailto:4optimall...@rogers.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 11:43 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSBruce Lipton Biologist. Incredible stuff

 

Bruce Lipton is one of my heroes.  I have his book and 3 videos.  I
recommend the last one, Nature, Nurture  the Power of Love:  Conscious
Parenting  The Biology of Belief is a little more technical and does not
focus on the parenting although it does show us how our thoughts affect our
body.

 

Kallie Miller


www.4optimallife.com;
4optimall...@rogers.com ;  

Safe magnetic sleep pads, antioxidant, alkalizing water filters, zappers 


 


 

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From: Marshall mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com  Dudley 

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 1:21 PM

Subject: Re: CSBruce Lipton Biologist. Incredible stuff

 



Re: CSCS misting

2005-12-22 Thread ch...@comcast.net
You can be exposed to things without getting sick.  To me, getting sick means 
your immune system isn't as strong as it should be.  

Cindy

-- Original message -- 
From: cari smith helt...@yahoo.com 

I may be totally off base but don't you want to expose yourself to some germs 
to keep your immune system strong and up to par...killing everything you come 
in contact with is like a remote immune system and not using or boosting the 
one you have...I think colds are good but the over the counter meds are bad 
they just drive the virus deeper like the lungs or intestineswhen i started 
working after 15 years at a grocery store near the pharmacy I caught 2 colds in 
two months and now nothing..my immune system needed to make antibodies to 
protect me from my surroundings...nurish the body best thing you could do to 
protect you from germs...

  cari

sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote:
Don't know that you need it, but misting keeps me from catching colds 
and flus. I am very susceptible to them.
No need to rub it in. .

 do i have this right all i need a spray bottle w/ CS? spray it on my 
 face  rub in after leaving work, stores, etc.. or is there more 
 involved that what i stated?
 
 thanks alot
 chad



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CSRE Brown-sequard syndrome

2005-12-22 Thread Linda Hefferman
Hello fellow cs users. I am writing to say thank you to all the help I received 
when I wrote concering a friend of my daughter's who was diagnosed with 
brown-sequard syndrome.  She does not live near me but did visit her family who 
live near me for a short while after she was first diagnosed.  I passed on all 
of the information that I was given to her and she thanked me.  She has a 
family member who is into holistic medicine and she has been following her 
advice.  She did refuse to take the steriods and at present is taking some sort 
of crystal under her tongue---have no idea what that is about---as part of her 
treatment.  I am glad that she is looking into alternative medicine and I am 
hoping she will find her answer to her health problem and continue to live a 
normal life.
   
  To Ernie, who gave me the information concerning a lady who is working in the 
Toronto area and has considerable success in the ms area, I want to say a 
special thanks.  Right now she is not using this information as she is in 
Western Canada, but should she return to her native home she would definitely 
be able to put that information to good use.
   
  Once again thank you to all for your generosity and sharing your expertise 
with me.
   
  God Bless and good health to all,  Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
   
  LJ Hefferman


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CS**white diarrhea in a child??

2005-12-22 Thread Debbie Mcdonald
What would cause vomiting with white??(says the
parents) diarrhea in a three year old? They tested for
Hep, said it was negative. My husband is ill with his
liver and I am afraid for him to be near them, it's
his son's family. 


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RE: CS**white diarrhea in a child??

2005-12-22 Thread David W Kenney
Usually due to a total lack of bile secretion.


What would cause vomiting with white??(says the
parents) diarrhea in a three year old? They tested for
Hep, said it was negative. My husband is ill with his
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RE: CS**white diarrhea in a child??

2005-12-22 Thread Debbie Mcdonald
what would do it though?

--- David W Kenney dr...@montrose.net wrote:

 Usually due to a total lack of bile secretion.
 
 
 What would cause vomiting with white??(says the
 parents) diarrhea in a three year old? They tested
 for
 Hep, said it was negative. My husband is ill with
 his
 liver and I am afraid for him to be near them, it's
 his son's family. 
 
 
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Re: CSCS misting

2005-12-22 Thread Stuff


I also spray and inhale it up my nose.

Works for me.

Haven't had a cold yet in this season.

stuff

At 09:47 AM 12/22/2005, Chad wrote:


hi

do i have this right all i need a spray bottle w/ CS? spray it on my 
face  rub in after leaving work, stores, etc.. or is there more 
involved that what i stated?


thanks alot
chad



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Re: CSCS misting

2005-12-22 Thread sol
Nope. I'm not interested in exposing myself to diseases that 59 years 
have shown me my immune system can't handle.

I'm killing the buggers off at the entrances before they can set up shop.
sol


cari smith wrote:

I may be totally off base but don't you want to expose yourself to 
some germs to keep your immune system strong and up to par...killing 
everything you come in contact with is like a remote immune system and 
not using or boosting the one you have...I think colds are good but 
the over the counter meds are bad they just drive the virus deeper 
like the lungs or intestineswhen i started working after 15 years 
at a grocery store near the pharmacy I caught 2 colds in two months 
and now nothing..my immune system needed to make antibodies to protect 
me from my surroundings...nurish the body best thing you could do to 
protect you from germs...
 
  cari


sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote:

Don't know that you need it, but misting keeps me from catching colds
and flus. I am very susceptible to them.
No need to rub it in. .

 do i have this right all i need a spray bottle w/ CS? spray it
on my
 face  rub in after leaving work, stores, etc.. or is there more
 involved that what i stated?

 thanks alot
 chad



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RE: CS**white diarrhea in a child??

2005-12-22 Thread alltogethernow
I'll take some guessesan obstruction in the bile duct? Maybe a
gallstone? 
  http://curezone.com might be a good place to search; maybe a liver
cleanse, using epsom salt, grapefruit juice/olive oil would push it out. 


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Re: CSEIS + Oxylene for COPD

2005-12-22 Thread Stuff

At 11:15 AM 12/22/2005, Kallie wrote to Pete:

Check this out, Pete.

http://www.h2o2medicalmiracle.com/H2o2MedicalMiracle.pdf

stuff


Have you looked into and can afford intravenous Hydrogen peroxide 
for your emphysema and cancer?


For more information, do a google search on intravenous hydrogen peroxide



Kallie Miller
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Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 9:33 AM
Subject: CSEIS + Oxylene for COPD

As many on the list know, I have an advanced case of Emphysema and am trying
various means to slow the decomposition of my lungs.  I use a Omron 
nebulizer in
which I add my 12PPM EIS than inhale the mist for about 10 mins. 
AM/PM.  I came
across this other product at Walgreens called Oxylene which 
indicates that it is a
Nitric Oxide (NO) enhancer. It is suppose to improve oxygen delivery 
to the cells,
promote max. circulation and vascular blood flow, and also increase 
physical sta-
mina and endurance.  Does anyone on the list have any knowledge of 
this product?
Is NO a safe substance? One of the main ingredients is Arginine 
alpha Ketoglu

tarate(akg). Thank you,   Pete
PS between nose cancer and Emphysema I am having a wonderful Christmas!G



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Re: CSCS misting

2005-12-22 Thread Grace1way
 
In a message dated 12/22/2005 3:50:18 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
ch...@comcast.net writes:

I may be  totally off base but don't you want to expose yourself to some 
germs to keep  your immune system strong and up to par


This brings up an issue I have wondered about for a long time.  Some  experts 
advise taking a large amount of CS on a daily basis.  Does that  compromise 
the body's own immune system?  Is it best to only take CS when  sick?  How 
about only taking it when REALLY SICK, so as to strengthen the  immune system.  
 
What do the experts on the Silver List think?
 
Jill


Re: CSCS misting

2005-12-22 Thread V
Hi Grace1way,

yes you do want to expose yourself. that is why children put everything in 
their mouths it is a way to introduce environment microbes to the system to 
bulid the immunity. Most microbes are beneficial, even some of them that have a 
bad name like E-coli. can have a good effect on the body. I know one guy that 
cures people of cancer using it. this society is germ phobic which is 
completely unnecessary. Ass germs do not cause disease, it is an unhealthy and 
out of balanace body that causese disease. the germs are jsut there to clean up 
the mess. Just like flies dont caues garbage. the germ theory was put out by 
pastuer and even he denounced it when he was dying as not a valid theory. the 
entire medical establishment is based on that false theory and is its achilles 
heal. Once people realize the its not the germs that caues diseaes the whole 
business with disease that makes billions will collapse in a resounding dust 
heap. It sholud happen soon. Unless a medical dictatorship arises, to 
perpetuate it at gunpoint, which may already be starting.
http://www.expo-net.org/PasteurBechamp.html




Take care,
 V


  
 In a message dated 12/22/2005 3:50:18 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
 ch...@comcast.net writes:

 I may be  totally off base but don't you want to expose yourself to some 
 germs to keep  your immune system strong and up to par


 This brings up an issue I have wondered about for a long time.  Some  experts
 advise taking a large amount of CS on a daily basis.  Does that  compromise
 the body's own immune system?  Is it best to only take CS when  sick?  How 
 about only taking it when REALLY SICK, so as to strengthen the  immune system.
  
 What do the experts on the Silver List think?
  
 Jill


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Re: CSH2O2 and EIS

2005-12-22 Thread Grace1way
 
In a message dated 12/22/2005 8:13:34 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
odecoy...@alltel.net writes:

To my  suspicion all the nasal mist 
spray bottles are sealed so that pressure  can be maintained in the bottle.
This is what was told to me by the  pharmacist. With this being said. How 
would one go about dumping the  saline solution and replacing it with CS


It is hard to pry the very top plastic cap off, and takes a lot of effort,  
but you can do it if you try.
 
Jill


Re: CS[List Owner] I'm back...

2005-12-22 Thread Deborah Gerard
So sorry about your father-in-law Mike please give condolance's to Rosiedeb

M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote:  Hi folks,

I've been silent for the last week for the simple reason I wasn't here.

We were called to Florida to attend my wife's Dad's death and funeral. 
Rosie's family is quite close, and we all flew or drove down when word 
came that he was close to the end. Though he's been terminally ill for 
some time, it was still very hard for everyone, as he was a really 
special person to a lot of people, not least his wife and children.

I was only able to log on to a computer a couple of times while we were 
gone, and only enough to a) delete the thousands of bounce messages and 
spam, and b) observe that there didn't seem to be a great melt-down 
happening on the list.

There were a couple of complaints in my in-box about excessive message 
volume and topic wandering, plus a few of you seem to have forgotten 
that you *must* turn off your fancy formatting and send plain text if 
you're going to get your messages past the 18k message size limit.

I'm going through the backlog of messages now, and will probably post a 
message or two asking for topics to be ended or moved, plus anything 
else I see needing a tweak.

Altogether, and in anticipation of my reading of all your messages, I 
believe thanks are in order for your carrying on so well in my absence.

Peace, my friends.

Mike Devour
silver-list owner
[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
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CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2005 #858

2005-12-22 Thread Greg Ball
When I had a lung infection I got a nebulizer and put Sovereign silver in and 
inhaled deeply, holding the silver mist in. I got rid of the infection quicker 
than my husband who started antibiotics before I started these silver 
treatments. Andrea
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  Subject: silver-digest Digest V2005 #858



RE: CS[List Owner] I'm back...

2005-12-22 Thread tdg39
Condolences on your  Rosie's loss.Terry

 

  _  

From: Deborah Gerard [mailto:devorah...@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 9:43 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS[List Owner] I'm back...

 

So sorry about your father-in-law Mike please give condolance's to
Rosiedeb

M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote: 

Hi folks,

I've been silent for the last week for the simple reason I wasn't here.

We were called to Florida to attend my wife's Dad's death and funeral. 
Rosie's family is quite close, and we all flew or drove down when word 
came that he was close to the end. Though he's been terminally ill for 
some time, it was still very hard for everyone, as he was a really 
special person to a lot of people, not least his wife and children.

I was only able to log on to a computer a couple of times while we were 
gone, and only enough to a) delete the thousands of bounce messages and 
spam, and b) observe that there didn't seem to be a great melt-down 
happening on the list.
There were a couple of complaints in my in-box about excessive message 
volume and topic wandering, plus a few of you seem to have forgotten 
that you *must* turn off your fancy formatting and send plain text if 
you're going to get your messages past the 18k message size limit.

I'm going through the backlog of messages now, and will probably post a 
message or two asking for topics to be ended or moved, plus anything 
else I see needing a tweak.

Altogether, and in anticipation of my reading of all your messages, I 
believe thanks are in order for your carrying on so well in my absence.

Peace, my friends.

Mike Devour
silver-list owner
[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@eskimo.com ]
[Speaking only for myself... ]


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Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2005 #858

2005-12-22 Thread Chad
hi

would home made CS be just as good? also what type/kind of nebulizer do you use?

thanks
chad
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  Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 8:54 PM
  Subject: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2005 #858


  When I had a lung infection I got a nebulizer and put Sovereign silver in and 
inhaled deeply, holding the silver mist in. I got rid of the infection quicker 
than my husband who started antibiotics before I started these silver 
treatments. Andrea
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RE: CS[List Owner] I'm back...

2005-12-22 Thread epatai

Sorry to hear Mike.

Ernie



From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS[List Owner] I'm back...
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 21:40:55 -5

Hi folks,

I've been silent for the last week for the simple reason I wasn't here.

We were called to Florida to attend my wife's Dad's death and funeral.
Rosie's family is quite close, and we all flew or drove down when word
came that he was close to the end. Though he's been terminally ill for
some time, it was still very hard for everyone, as he was a really
special person to a lot of people, not least his wife and children.

I was only able to log on to a computer a couple of times while we were
gone, and only enough to a) delete the thousands of bounce messages and
spam, and b) observe that there didn't seem to be a great melt-down
happening on the list.

There were a couple of complaints in my in-box about excessive message
volume and topic wandering, plus a few of you seem to have forgotten
that you *must* turn off your fancy formatting and send plain text if
you're going to get your messages past the 18k message size limit.

I'm going through the backlog of messages now, and will probably post a
message or two asking for topics to be ended or moved, plus anything
else I see needing a tweak.

Altogether, and in anticipation of my reading of all your messages, I
believe thanks are in order for your carrying on so well in my absence.

Peace, my friends.

Mike Devour
silver-list owner
[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@eskimo.com]
[Speaking only for myself...   ]


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Re: CSCS misting

2005-12-22 Thread sol
I hope I didn't already post this, but my husband is just getting over a 
really nasty cold he's had for over two weeks.
I didn't catch it. Mist, mist, mist. Sip, sip, sip. He neglects his 
misting, but still he only gets one or two colds a year. His immune 
system is better than mine, or he just isn't as susceptible to those 
viruses.


I have a friend who is 90 who never gets a cold or flu. She just never 
catches them, ever. She tells me she never has in her entire 90 years. I 
have known her for over 12 years now, and she has not had a cold or the 
flu in those 12 years, so she seems to be telling it accurately.

sol


Stuff wrote:



I also spray and inhale it up my nose.

Works for me.

Haven't had a cold yet in this season.

stuff




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Re: CSCS misting

2005-12-22 Thread sol
I think CS does nothing to or for the immune system. It kills bacteria, 
viruses, and some or most fungi. Period. (Well except for stimulating 
healing of wounds...I've seen it do that when used topically).
If your immune system can't handle something, use enough CS long enough 
to get the job done.


As Ode says, dose for effect. Dosing is extremely variable from one 
individual to the next.
If I ever got cancer I'd drink a minimum of a half gallon a day. No 
kidding. As it is, I have some conditions that are risk factors for a 
certain cancer, and for some other reasons that seem good to me,  I 
drink between a pint and a quart a day. I'm not very consistent, but I 
try for at least a pint a day.

sol

P.S. I am not one of the experts, so I'm waiting for them to give their 
opinions, too. But I couldn't resist answering you anyway.


grace1...@aol.com wrote:

In a message dated 12/22/2005 3:50:18 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
ch...@comcast.net writes:


I may be totally off base but don't you want to expose yourself to
some germs to keep your immune system strong and up to par

This brings up an issue I have wondered about for a long time.  Some 
experts advise taking a large amount of CS on a daily basis.  Does 
that compromise the body's own immune system?  Is it best to only take 
CS when sick?  How about only taking it when REALLY SICK, so as to 
strengthen the immune system. 
 
What do the experts on the Silver List think?



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Re: CSRe: CS

2005-12-22 Thread Brickeyk
Just finished yearly check up and DR now says that enlarged prostate is now 
normal. I used the umeboshi pickled apricot, $3.69 for 22 apricots, one per 
day, lemon and garlic ground up in my Vita mix juicer, changed my method of 
Gatorade/CS mixed in a gallon jug to fresh CS and Gatorade mixed as I use it, 
(Ode 
said not to pre mix or CS could get bound up) used rife frequency 2128 for 30 
minutes per day. I have not seen any more black mold in several months. I quit 
doing sinus flushes with the CS,DMSO, Xylitol,GSE as no more mold comes out. 
Buteyko shallow breathing helped with sinus problem.

Will head for Yuma, AZ soon where I take the following IVs, EDTA chelation, 
H2O2, Plaque, and Ultra Violet blood cleaning. I try for 10 IVs per year, in 
that order. H2O2 and Ultra Violet are for Asthma. They are not a cure as I need 
them each year.

DR said I have Metabolic Syndrome, Insulin Resistant. Also I will be tested 
for sleep apnea. I can't drive after a big lunch without going to sleep. I 
don't believe the testing will be finished in time as I am leaving in early 
Feb. I 
thought I might try to buy a used CPAP until Medicare can catch up.

Will also get the scope down into my stomach checking on my Barrettes 
Esophagus problem. in early Jan.


CS

2005-12-22 Thread 4optimallife
I am one of those who can't stand the niacin flush and I severely flush on 50 
mg. and so did my mother.  I suggest anyone starting start small.  I am glad 
this came up as I need to get back on my non-flushing niacin to lower my 
cholesterol.

Here is a great article of many on Dr. Andrew Saul's website where he has a 
search program.  Search niacin for many great articles.

http://www.doctoryourself.com//hoffer_niacin.html   

Here is an excerpt from that article
The flush starts in the forehead with a warning tingle. Then it intensifies. 
The rate of the development of the flush depends upon so many factors it is 
impossible to predict what course it will follow.  

The following factors decrease the intensity of the flush: a cold meal, taking 
it after a meal, taking aspirin before, using an antihistamine in advance.  

The following factors make the flush more intense: a hot meal, a hot drink, an 
empty stomach, chewing the tablets and the rate at which the tablets break down 
in liquid.  

From the forehead and face the flush travels down the rest of the body, 
usually stopping somewhere in the chest but may extend to the toes. With 
continued use the flush gradually recedes and eventually may be only a 
tingling sensation in the forehead. If the person stops taking the vitamin for 
a day or more the sequence of flushing will be re-experienced. Some people 
never do flush and a few only begin to flush after several years of taking the 
vitamin. With nicotinamide there should be no flushing but I have found that 
about 2% will flush. This may be due to rapid conversion of the nicotinamide 
to nicotinic acid in the body. 

When the dose is too high for both forms of the vitamin the patients will 
suffer from nausea at first, and then if the dose is not reduced it will lead 
to vomiting. These side effects may be used to determine what is the optimum 
dose. When they do occur the dose is reduced until it is just below the nausea 
level. With children the first indication may be loss of appetite. If this does 
occur the vitamin must be stopped for a few days and then may be resumed at a 
lower level. Very few can take more than 6 grams per day of the nicotinamide. 
With nicotinic acid it is possible to go much higher. Many schizophrenics have 
taken up to 30 grams per day with no difficulty. The dose will alter over time 
and if on a dose where there were no problems, they may develop in time. 
Usually this indicates that the patient is getting better and does not need as 
much. I have divided all patients who might benefit from vitamin B-3 into the 
following categories. 

Season's greetings

Kallie Miller


www.4optimallife.com;
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Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 5:36 PM
Subject: CSMiscel


e said,
 Would the B3 not cause flushing everywhere else too?
 Or would non flush B3 work as well?
 
 Yes, niacin would cause an all-over flush. It's not
 bad, and some folks like it. (I don't.) But the flush
 tends to occur in the face and extremities, and it  snip
.

CSPEROXIDE SILVER - HOW LONG?

2005-12-22 Thread Greg Ball
How Long do you have to leave the silver before you drink it once you've added 
the hydrogen peroxide?
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  Subject: silver-digest Digest V2005 #860



CSBev's Lyme disease...

2005-12-22 Thread Greg Ball
Bev, after lots of serious research, I decided not to use antibiotics but to do 
the following. I bought a rife machine. I have not started yet as I am doing 
the salt/C and want to ramp up to a good dose first. Then I will add rife, mag 
pulser and beck later. I have been taking glutathione IV's which help clear out 
the toxins the bugs make. It has helped me very significantly and is worth the 
time and money. I find it has helped my immune system as my blood work has 
improved, and it helps with energy and mental clarity. I seem to get less 
infections. 

I eat low carb as described in the book Protein Power, which appears to be the 
best diet for those with lyme. It definitely makes a difference for me.

I find the lyme/rife group on yahoo to be most helpful with all kinds of 
issues. 
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Lyme-and-rife/http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Lyme-and-rife/

I find the salt/c yahoo group to be helpful with info for that tactic. 
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/lymestrategies/http://health.groupsyahoo.com/group/lymestrategies/
  

Lymenet.org has some good boards with folks who are using mainstream and 
alternative approaches: 
http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgihttp://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?

I will pulse in natural antibiotics such as silver and samento for maybe 2-3 
weeks at a time as any more than that can push the bugs to change form and hide 
if I understand things correctly. I'm not sure yet if I can take silver 
continuously or not without causing other approaches to be less effective. I 
don't believe that silver on it's own can reach the bugs in all the hiding 
places and and all their forms, so I intend to use silver as a part of the plan 
to lower the bug load. Ozone is also something I use that makes a dent in how I 
feel, but as a stand alone, it won't conquer the lyme, possibly for the same 
reasons as silver, but I intend to use it with everything else. I've used it 
for years and feel it's really helped me. 

Additionally, I think cleansing is essential before doing all of this. I did a 
colon cleanse with oxy-powder, which I found to be more effective than any 
other type of colon cleanse I've tried. Then I did 5 Hulda Clark ( 
www.curezone.comhttp://www.curezone.com/ ) style liver flushes which made a 
big difference. Many of my blood tests went normal from the flushes. I used a 
kidney cleanse formula also. I believe that colon and liver cleansing are 
essential to allow the body to handle the toxins created by killing the bugs. 
It can make for less intense and prolonged herxing, with less damage to the 
system from toxins. 

 I do hope this helps. Andrea
  - Original Message - 
  From: M. G. Devourmailto:mdev...@eskimo.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 9:42 PM
  Subject: CSBev's Lyme disease...


  Folks, is there anybody with other suggestions for Bev? She's dealing 
  with Lyme complicated by past chemotherapy, it seems.

  There are people who've done amazing things against deep seated Lyme 
  using Rife, electrical devices, and numerous other therapies besides 
  CS. Can we get a brief re-hash of some of this, please?

  One source i was thinking about was Bryan Posner's book: 

 http://www.lymebook.com/http://www.lymebook.com/

  I haven't read it, but know enough to suspect it's worth the read.

  Any others?

  Thanks,

  Mike D.
   
   Andrea,
   
   I have had lyme disease with no co infections for 8 yrs.  I have used
   sovernign silver but quite frankly, the silver does not help me at
   all. I  tried for several months with an MD who is also alternative. 
   I truly wished it had helped as antibiotics do their damage too.  I
   have no alternative at this point.  I have a generator that I bought
   and now don't  use.  My dr. recommended it. 
   
   I was about to unsubscribe from this list as there are so many that
   don't  help a lyme disease person from what I can see and yet I
   haven't as yet.  I  wish there was a lyme/silver only list that I could
   rely on. Also,  this bacteria is so tricky and each of our bodies are
   so different.  I have  gone thru breast cancer in 81 and it was in my
   lymph nodes and wasn't suppose to  survive. I had a year of
   chemotherapy and I'm aliver after so many years  ago. If someone can
   truly tell me a similar story with cancer/chemo and  now lyme disease I
   guess that would help.  Chemo does permanant damage and now the
   bacteria is having a field day. 
   
   I do trust SS and there is a gal in Texas that was able to get it for
   me at  cost.  If that is of help send me your information and I'll try
   to help.  For now, I am on Bicillin LA for the past 4 months and
   herxing like  crazy. 
   
   Bev
   

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Re: CSEIS + Oxylene for COPD

2005-12-22 Thread Jonathan B. Britten

My goodness:  a 173 page book, free with one mouse-click!

Thanks for that.

I notice that in the first chapter the doctor addresses my 
long-standing question about the conflict between H202 therapy and the 
free-radical theory of aging and cellular damage.   That alone suggests 
this is a worthwhile read.


Much obliged!





On Friday, Dec 23, 2005, at 10:49 Asia/Tokyo, Stuff wrote:


At 11:15 AM 12/22/2005, Kallie wrote to Pete:

Check this out, Pete.

http://www.h2o2medicalmiracle.com/H2o2MedicalMiracle.pdf

stuff


Have you looked into and can afford intravenous Hydrogen peroxide for 
your emphysema and cancer?


For more information, do a google search on intravenous hydrogen 
peroxide




Kallie Miller
- Original Message -
From: mailto:panamp...@aol.companamp...@aol.com
To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 9:33 AM
Subject: CSEIS + Oxylene for COPD

As many on the list know, I have an advanced case of Emphysema and am 
trying
various means to slow the decomposition of my lungs.  I use a Omron 
nebulizer in
which I add my 12PPM EIS than inhale the mist for about 10 mins. 
AM/PM.  I came
across this other product at Walgreens called Oxylene which 
indicates that it is a
Nitric Oxide (NO) enhancer. It is suppose to improve oxygen delivery 
to the cells,
promote max. circulation and vascular blood flow, and also increase 
physical sta-
mina and endurance.  Does anyone on the list have any knowledge of 
this product?
Is NO a safe substance? One of the main ingredients is Arginine 
alpha Ketoglu

tarate(akg). Thank you,   Pete
PS between nose cancer and Emphysema I am having a wonderful 
Christmas!G



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CSniacin flush, was Re: CS

2005-12-22 Thread sol

I can't take the niacin flush either. And I also flush from niacinamide.
They last for many hours, and are uncomfortable to the point of being 
painful. Thanks for the article.

sol


4optimallife wrote:

I am one of those who can't stand the niacin flush and I severely 
flush on 50 mg. and so did my mother.  I suggest anyone starting start 
small.  I am glad this came up as I need to get back on my 
non-flushing niacin to lower my cholesterol.
 




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Re: CSCS misting

2005-12-22 Thread cari smith
I thought the opposite was true...when your having symptoms your immune system 
is fighting it...cleansing some people would say...and when you sneeze you are 
throwing the germs out and they get passed to the next person...when a person 
starts to  feel better that's when they are contagious...
   
cari

ch...@comcast.net ch...@comcast.net wrote:
You can be exposed to things without getting sick.  To me, getting sick 
means your immune system isn't as strong as it should be.  
   
  Cindy
   
  -- Original message -- 
From: cari smith helt...@yahoo.com 

I may be totally off base but don't you want to expose yourself to some 
germs to keep your immune system strong and up to par...killing everything you 
come in contact with is like a remote immune system and not using or boosting 
the one you have...I think colds are good but the over the counter meds are bad 
they just drive the virus deeper like the lungs or intestineswhen i started 
working after 15 years at a grocery store near the pharmacy I caught 2 colds in 
two months and now nothing..my immune system needed to make antibodies to 
protect me from my surroundings...nurish the body best thing you could do to 
protect you from germs...
   
cari

sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote:
  Don't know that you need it, but misting keeps me from catching colds 
and flus. I am very susceptible to them.
No need to rub it in. .

 do i have this right all i need a spray bottle w/ CS? spray it on my 
 face  rub in after leaving work, stores, etc.. or is there more 
 involved that what i stated?
 
 thanks alot
 chad



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RE: CSEIS + Oxylene for COPD

2005-12-22 Thread reglee
Yes Jonathan.. Couldn't agree more. Thanks for this infor.. If it wasn't
your email I would have missed this good readings.

From WA.



-Original Message-
From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp] 
Sent: Friday, 23 December 2005 1:06 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSEIS + Oxylene for COPD


My goodness:  a 173 page book, free with one mouse-click!

Thanks for that.

I notice that in the first chapter the doctor addresses my 
long-standing question about the conflict between H202 therapy and the 
free-radical theory of aging and cellular damage.   That alone suggests 
this is a worthwhile read.

Much obliged!





On Friday, Dec 23, 2005, at 10:49 Asia/Tokyo, Stuff wrote:

 At 11:15 AM 12/22/2005, Kallie wrote to Pete:

 Check this out, Pete.

 http://www.h2o2medicalmiracle.com/H2o2MedicalMiracle.pdf

 stuff


 Have you looked into and can afford intravenous Hydrogen peroxide for
 your emphysema and cancer?

 For more information, do a google search on intravenous hydrogen
 peroxide



 Kallie Miller
 - Original Message -
 From: mailto:panamp...@aol.companamp...@aol.com
 To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 9:33 AM
 Subject: CSEIS + Oxylene for COPD

 As many on the list know, I have an advanced case of Emphysema and am
 trying
 various means to slow the decomposition of my lungs.  I use a Omron 
 nebulizer in
 which I add my 12PPM EIS than inhale the mist for about 10 mins. 
 AM/PM.  I came
 across this other product at Walgreens called Oxylene which 
 indicates that it is a
 Nitric Oxide (NO) enhancer. It is suppose to improve oxygen delivery 
 to the cells,
 promote max. circulation and vascular blood flow, and also increase 
 physical sta-
 mina and endurance.  Does anyone on the list have any knowledge of 
 this product?
 Is NO a safe substance? One of the main ingredients is Arginine 
 alpha Ketoglu
 tarate(akg). Thank you,   Pete
 PS between nose cancer and Emphysema I am having a wonderful 
 Christmas!G


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CSRe: white diarrhea

2005-12-22 Thread Catherine Creel
  Hi,


  Excuse me for not including your post and your name but I
accidentally trashed the digest.


 I think there was some confusion about what was white -- the
vomit or the diarrhea.  The way I read it I believe it is the
diarrhea.  Is this correct?

   This only documentation of this in humans is in literature on Hep
A.  I don't know what to tell you here but I do know how to fix it. 
Personally, I wouldn't do a liver cleanse on a child that age. 
Homeopathy has documentation of white diarrhea but  there are a few
different remedies depending on other symptoms.  If you want to post
those (including anything that might be referred to as emotional
symptoms) I'd be glad to let you know which remedy is most fitting.

--
Regards,
Catherine


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Re: CSH2O2 and EIS

2005-12-22 Thread Nancy DeLise
For spraying you should you CS straight, no H2o2.  Topically, you never need
to add H2o2.
\Nancy
- Original Message - 
From: Shelli me...@insightbb.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: CSH2O2 and EIS


 I did start misting my face and tried to breath it in sporadically but I
 wasn't sure with the H2O2 if I should get it in my eyes. I just wish I
could
 get rid of the cough. It is keeping me, and probably my family, up at
night.
 I will try to remember to mist myself when coming from somewhere. That
 sounds like a great idea.
 Thanks.
 Shelli



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Re: CS

2005-12-22 Thread Nancy DeLise
The easiest and most precise is 3.5%.
- Original Message - 
From: Jim Holmes ami...@starband.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 12:40 PM
Subject: RE: CS


 Can someone clarify for me the concentration of H2O2 to use when putting 2
 drops in 8 ounces.  Should it be 3.5% or 35%.

 TIA,

 Jim

 -Original Message-
 From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 5:23 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CS

 At 09:53 AM 12/20/2005 -0600, you wrote:

 Please give me some clarification
 
 Is H2o2Topical Hydrogen Peroxide?
 
 I have heard of people putting Hydrogen Peroxide in the CSare they
 using Topical Hydrogen Peroxide that you put on external sores?

   ##  That is correct..off the shelf 3%.
 Ode

 
 I start making my CS at home and have been drinking it for about 6
 months...I feel that the CS goes through my body to fast too and would
 like to get a deep affect from the CS.

 ## Elimination rate IS quite fast..which also makes it very safe to use a
 LOT, like quarts even,  at least for a while.
 Ode

 
 Thanks for your help
 
 Gwlynda
 
 
 --
 From: Nancy DeLise [mailto:nancym...@prodigy.net]
 Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 11:34 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE
 
 I took 16- 20 oz. of my home made Cs for 2 1/2 years.  When I learned
 about Sovereign Silver, I took 2 teaspoons four times a day.  Now that I
 am about 90 % cured  of my MS, I take 8 oz. of my home made in the
morning
 and 2 teaspoons of Sovereign Silver two times a day.(MS is a virus and I
 would never stop completely)
  As far as the H2o2, I put 1 drop of H2o2 into 2 oz. of CS and let it
  sit for about 15 minutes.  The H2o2 interacts with the silver and causes
  the particles to break up into much smaller particles, and more of it
  gets utilized by the body rather then just going thru quickly.
 Nancy
 - Original Message -
 From: mailto:granb...@msn.comGreg Ball
 To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 11:09 PM
 Subject: Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE
 
 Nancy - I may have missed this in another post, but how much sovereign
did
 you take, and did you combine that with homemade? Also, how did you make
 your homemade silver?
 
 Lastly, why mix the silver with the H202? I have an ozone machine and can
 drink ozone water. Would this be the same because it ads oxygen? or is
 there something about the peroxide thats unique? Does it combine somehow
 with the silver?
 
 Thanks so much for sharing!
 
 
 
 
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Re: CSRe: CS I believe I've been misdiagnosed........with Moblock type 2 when

2005-12-22 Thread Merywolf7

In a message dated 12/22/05 12:26:22 PM, marmar...@aol.com writes:

  Note that Faith's website is healinhands, not healinghands.

And using that web addy, I went right to it Jill -- thanks.   

Thanks so much I will try it straight away.will let you know
be well
Marian and Hounds


Remembering Merry


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Re: CSCold extremities

2005-12-22 Thread Dennis Gulenchin

Hi Tel,
(6000mg niacin  WOW-)Do you take this amount of niacin every day or do 
you take a break from it for awhile occasionally? I take just 250mg 
every day except Sundays which I take a day off from all supplements. 
The reason I ask is that someone told me that much niacin is hard on the 
liver(250mg that is ). I also take about a tsp. of 180,000 HU cayenne 
pepper with food once a day but I still have cold hands and feet.

Dennis.

Tel Tofflemire wrote:


I have the same experience,
 I use niacin 6,000 mg per day and 6,000 mg of Cayenne pepper 90,000 
HU (heating units) each.
Also I use 1,000 mg of Ginkgo Bilobo per day all the dose are split 
in  1/2 am and pm .  I would suggest working up to this amount,
and the no flush niacin is less irritating, but I take the normal 
flush kind and like it...It works for me.  I am in my 8th year doing 
this ,

with great results.
Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.
In a message dated 12/21/2005 5:00:15 PM Central Standard Time, 
epa...@sympatico.ca mailto:epa...@sympatico.ca writes:


Does anyone here have experience with ?
Condition where extremities such as fingers and toes lose
circulation and
become cold.

Ernie

 


Ernie:

 


I have been pained with the problem for 20 some years. There
doesn't seem to be a safe way of eliminating the problem. A lot of
years ago I took a medicine that was supposed to help. It merely
made my pulse and BP rise. I didn't feel any relief from the cold.
I just buy and wear better gloves and good socks.   I just try to
stay warm...I live in central Illinois. :-)

I'm going on to 72 years young in March. I guess I've proved one
can live with the problem.

There seems to be Raynaud's phenomenon and Raynaud's syndrom.
Either, if the Insurance Companys get wind of itone can be
slighted for getting insurance.

But being on MedicareI don't care in my case.

 


Thom





Re: CSurgent reply...silver build up...

2005-12-22 Thread Nancy DeLise
Someone need to give the lady in the store some advise Know your product.  
Silver DOES NOT build up anywhere in the body.  It is completely eliminated in 
5 days.
This web site will prove that CS will NOT build up anywhere in your body:   

http://www.silvermedicine.org/AltmanStudy.pdf
Nancy
  - Original Message - 
  From: debbie cozens 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 11:15 AM
  Subject: CSurgent reply...silver build up...


  Does anyone know if silver builds up in the liverthe lady at the local 
health shop said not to take it for more than 10 days as it builds up in the 
liverany comments???
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Re: CSRe: CS I believe I've been misdiagnosed........with Moblock type 2 when

2005-12-22 Thread Merywolf7

In a message dated 12/22/05 10:02:17 AM, grace1...@aol.com writes:

 By the way, I tried Faith's remedy suggested for you, and it works.   
Don't 
know what I would do without it. 

I've finally found the sight but am slightly confused, can some one explain 
which exercise I should be doing, sorry to be so lame about it all, alot on my 
mind
be well
Marian


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