Re: CSCANSEMA Salve... treat healing Scars with CS
All right, I'm sufficiently chastized. ;-) Actually I've been using CS on my spots consistently, but so far they are looking pretty scar-ry, though they have healed beautifully. -Raine Tel Tofflemire wrote: *This is a CS site and your going to use pineapple? ((( GEE )))... What is wrong with CS ???* *I have had horse's heal with hardly any scars, with a piece of flesh torn out by a steel post when a Mt. Lyon chased a heard .* *I have before and after pictures. If your new to CS site, Let me tell you about my experience. CS can heal Epidermis tissue (top skin) with almost no scaring. I have cut my own finger with a sharp knife and squirted on CS several times a day and no scar.* *Tel Tofflemire* *Dewey, **AZ.* Swap Your Paperback Books - PaperBackSwap.com http://www.paperbackswap.com/index.php?n=1r_by=rainelu...@yahoo.com
CSniacin to Pat
Sometimes an extreme reaction like that can be an allergic reaction. I would make the suggestion that you try niacinimide instead. It is easier on the body. To much niacin can also stress the liver so it is wise to be cautious. __ Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSre: lung infection questions
I'm glad you all pointed out that using O2 with DMSO is a definite NO. Here I was going to add DMSO to my CS in my nebulizer, and I am on O2 24/7.It's nice to be informed on things like this from the great bunch of people on the list. Pete
Re: CSCANSEMA Salve -- Pete
Good advice Raine! I will wait and see hw much nose I have left before I attempt another coating. My brother who has been a doctor for over 40 yrs is coming down from Cleveland for a visit after I told him about Cansema. I Emailed my other brother a pict of my face and he showed it to my mother who thought it was a homeless person!G I still haven't heard any more people tell their experience with scarring, etc.. Pete
Re: CSBlack Salve-no scars
AOL EmailA Lady here where I live pulled a cancer off her thumb, in about 4 days after first applied with Black salve. It had two tentacles about 2 to 3 inches long that cam out with it. The size of the cancer was the size of two raisins. No scar as she used CS every few min, after the cancer came off. She did get nervous when it started to burn , she kept spray it with cs and that helped the pain. I and others suggested to her to keep spraying the cs after the cancer came off. no scars and no cancer, it has been 3 months now. Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. - Original Message - From: panamp...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 6:03 AM Subject: Re: CSCANSEMA Salve -- Pete Good advice Raine! I will wait and see hw much nose I have left before I attempt another coating. My brother who has been a doctor for over 40 yrs is coming down from Cleveland for a visit after I told him about Cansema. I Emailed my other brother a pict of my face and he showed it to my mother who thought it was a homeless person!G I still haven't heard any more people tell their experience with scarring, etc.. Pete
CSDoctorYourself.com - Niacin Therapy Details
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CSCayenne Method
Morning Tel, It takes continued use, same time, every day or close to it and before long you can increase your mg's...I am up to 6,000 split am PM...Plus that much Cayenne Pepper each am Pm. No doubt you have figured out the best way to ingest the Cayenne pepper without having to look for the fire extinguisher. If you don't mind, please share any methods you have tried and the one you like best. Wayne
Re: CSCANSEMA Salve -- Pete
AOL Email Hi Pete, Before your brother arrives, please do lots of Internet searches on the benefits of escharotic ***black salves*** eliminating skin cancers. BOTTOM LINE: Your family doctor knows zilch about escharotics. Regards, Gunar - Original Message - From: panamp...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 12:03 AM Subject: Re: CSCANSEMA Salve -- Pete Good advice Raine! I will wait and see hw much nose I have left before I attempt another coating. My brother who has been a doctor for over 40 yrs is coming down from Cleveland for a visit after I told him about Cansema. I Emailed my other brother a pict of my face and he showed it to my mother who thought it was a homeless person!G I still haven't heard any more people tell their experience with scarring, etc.. Pete -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.7/214 - Release Date: 23/12/2005
Re: CSCayenne Method
I use 500 mg capsules for both, 3 each twice per day = 6,000 mg. I just took my am dose , right now I feel a slight flush, but for me it is not too noticeable. I like to eat a cracker with kefir cheese (I make daily myself) to put something in my belly before I take these pills. I did take one teaspoon of African Bird cayenne pepper 184,000 HU in a big glass of water, but its kind of hard when I travel so I still have a lb of African Bird left and I only use it in herbs tea, or capsules. Its no fun at first but you can get used to it. Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. - Original Message - From: Wayne Fugitt To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 7:00 AM Subject: CSCayenne Method Morning Tel, It takes continued use, same time, every day or close to it and before long you can increase your mg's...I am up to 6,000 split am PM...Plus that much Cayenne Pepper each am Pm. No doubt you have figured out the best way to ingest the Cayenne pepper without having to look for the fire extinguisher. If you don't mind, please share any methods you have tried and the one you like best. Wayne
Re: CSCMO
I have on on my thumb, and my wife has on on her wrist. Both of ours are Ganglions Cysts. Fortunately mine is not sore, but unfotrunately Donna's is. Is it hard, or spongy (actually Ganglion Cysts can be either). If you press on it a bit, will it go down, or does it tent to inflate and deflate at different times. If it does it is almost certainly a Ganglion Cyst. However if the joint is causing the finger to distort into a dirction it should not be going, that does sound like an arthritic problem. Either way you may want to get it evaluated by a doctor. Marshall Marshalee Hallett wrote: Dear Marshall, I asked you before (quite a while ago) about the knot I`m developing on my left pinky, in the joint nearest the nail. Now it is twice the size, and is sore. The finger is gullwing-shaped now. Yuck. I think it might be Erosive Osteoarthritis, as the symptoms fit what the article on the `net of the Osteoarthritis site describes. It says EO appears in peri-and post menopausal women; well I`m 53 and in the first group... I do intend to order in some CMO, and will send you an update! Thanks for the helpful input!!! Marshalee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSBlack Salve-no scars
What is the name of the black salve? Gwlynda Irek Country Ridge Bulldogs Rockwall, TX crbulldog.com _ From: Tel Tofflemire [mailto:telt...@cableone.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 7:39 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBlack Salve-no scars A Lady here where I live pulled a cancer off her thumb, in about 4 days after first applied with Black salve. It had two tentacles about 2 to 3 inches long that cam out with it. The size of the cancer was the size of two raisins. No scar as she used CS every few min, after the cancer came off. She did get nervous when it started to burn , she kept spray it with cs and that helped the pain. I and others suggested to her to keep spraying the cs after the cancer came off. no scars and no cancer, it has been 3 months now. Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. - Original Message - From: panamp...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 6:03 AM Subject: Re: CSCANSEMA Salve -- Pete Good advice Raine! I will wait and see hw much nose I have left before I attempt another coating. My brother who has been a doctor for over 40 yrs is coming down from Cleveland for a visit after I told him about Cansema. I Emailed my other brother a pict of my face and he showed it to my mother who thought it was a homeless person!G I still haven't heard any more people tell their experience with scarring, etc.. Pete
Re: CSMore on music for sinuses...
Hmmm, I wonder if playing a trumpet or trumbone would do the same thing. Marshall M. G. Devour wrote: The following article jibes really well with the report we heard about last month about *humming* being an effective treatment for sinus problems due to the nitric oxide produced in the nasal passages. Mike D. From: http://seven.com.au/news/topstories/131126 Didgeridoo linked to sleep apnoea cure Date: 23/12/05 Didgeridoo sales may be about to boom after a European study found the instrument can cure the dangerous condition of sleep apnoea. Swiss researchers have discovered that playing the Aboriginal instrument reduces snoring and daytime sleepiness for those with obstructive sleep apnoea. The condition occurs when the airway is obstructed during sleep, and results in the sufferer gasping for breath, snoring loudly, snorting and constantly waking up. It carries an increased risk of stroke, heart attacks and high blood pressure. Swiss experts, after hearing anecdotal reports of how playing the didgeridoo reduced snoring, decided to study how it could be applied clinically. They studied 25 patients with moderate obstructive sleep apnoea and two with a snoring problem. Half the group were given didgeridoo lessons and asked to practise playing daily at home for four months. The other half were told they were on a waiting list for lessons. Daytime sleepiness and apnoea scores improved significantly in the didgeridoo group, the British Medical Journal reported. Partners of patients playing the didgeridoo also reported much less sleep disturbance. Larger trials are needed to confirm our preliminary findings, but our results may give hope to the many people with moderate obstructive sleep apnoea syndrome and snoring, as well as to their partners, said the researchers, led by Dr Otto Braendii, from the Zuercher Hoehenklinik Wald hospital in Faltigberg-Wald. Playing the didgeridoo requires a controlled breathing pattern, and researchers believe it helps to train the upper airways to combat the symptoms of obstructive sleep apnoea. Copyright © 2005 AAP -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCANSEMA Salve -- Pete
Pete: Sorry I have no experience dealing with scarring. Did you try the obvious remedies--vitamin E oil, and scar salves/remedies available over the counter? Thanks for your reports and documentation; it really helps the rest of us who build upon your experiences. Jill
Re: CS
Terry Chamberlin wrote: Marshall said, .. I am still somewhat at a loss here as to what terminology to use to definitively separate a molecular silver ion from a suspended silver crystal. I still like the molecular ion, but maybe another good term would be a disassociated ion. Part of the confusion is also tied to the definition of *colloidal*. Dr. Carey Reams (physicist, biochemist) didnt limit the size of a colloidal particle to something unable to passing through a cell wall. He said that some colloids were so small they could pass through glass. Also, the concept that suspended silver particles are not utilized by the body or that ionic silver particles are argyria-causing to the body is irrelevant if silver particles are changed by the body into *ionic* silver by stomach acid, digestion, etc. But they aren't. The opposite is true, ionic molecular silver is changed into nanoparticles in the blood stream. But silversmiths who were exposed to metallic silver powder and either inhaled it or continually got it on their skin acquired argyria. The inhaling is easy to explain since the lungs oxidize metallic silver particles into silver oxide with h2o2. Getting it on the skin is harder to explain, and in fact I suspect that it may be an incorrect assumption, all was really absorbed by breathing it. If metallic silver on the skin causes argyria, then millions of people would have it from wearing jewelry, an none do. Either the silver particles did cause argyria, or else the silver particles were made ionic by some metabolic function (digestion, etc.), Yes, we have already covered how the lungs do that many times here. I think it would be considered oxidization though, not digestion. which then caused argyria, or else more than one form of silver can cause argyria. What form you start with is irrelevant, as long as it is ionic when it enters the blood stream. The following are facts: 1. silver compounds that dissolve can enter the blood stream directly as molecular ionic silver through the stomach wall.. 2. silver nanoparticles that enter the stomach are either not effected (they enter the blood stream as particles, hCl does not attach silver nanoparticles), or if there is free sulfur available they can tarnish. Normally there is no free sulfur in the stomach, but one might not want to eat eggs at the same time they take CS. 3. Silver particles that enter the lungs cause the lungs to produce H2O2 either through hypooxygenization or hyperoxygenization. The H2O2 reacts with the silver producing silver oxide which is then absorbed into the blood stream. In any case, argyria does not occur when silver particles (in any form) are nanometer in size. That is true. Dr. Robert Demling emphasized the point that, as silver particles become smaller, they operate in unique ways that larger particles do not. When you are discussing nanosilver, all the rules and concerns are different. Silver particles that are in a certain range of sizes are considered suspended in water, and we have called them *colloidal*. When they fall below a certain size, they are considered to be dissolved, and we have been calling them *ionic*. We arbitrarily label the first group *particles*, though they are all particles (using common scientific definitions), and the second group *ions*, though they are also particles, and both groups all have a charge (which is the common definition of an ion). Including silver nitrate into the group called *ionic* only muddies the water even more, because we have (inappropriately) been using that word to specify silver particles so small that there is no concern for safety, they are too small to be a problem. From a purely literal standpoint, silver-nitrate IS ionic because it has a charge (does it?), but that makes us need a vocabulary that differentiates between *good ionic* and *bad ionic*, and were already having trouble with *ionic* and *colloidal*. There is no good ionic vs bad ionic. Silver nitrate it poisons use to the anion, nitrate, not the cation silver. Silver oxide and silver hydroxide are not poisonous, and that is what the ionic compound portion of EIS is. I think we should use molecular ionic for the silver compounds, such as silver oxide which is what we usually refer to as ionic silver, and either colloidal particles, or silver nanoparticles for the colloid part. I have looked up the definitions of *dissolved*, *solution* and *homogeneous* (a word that is part of the definition of a solution). I have tried to find a clear description of the properties that would make a distinction between the two, but found it to be quite unclear. If the particles are bigger than a certain size, they are declared to be in suspension. If smaller than that, they are labeled *in solution*. Also in the case of silver, a ion (from a disassociated molecule) is reactive, forming silver chloride when salt is added, and a
Re: CSCS misting
M. G. Devour wrote: Sol, when you get a chance, please ask your friend if she's had any silver fillings from the dentist. If so, were any put in since 1970? What changed in 1970? Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: CSCANSEMA Salve -- suppliers
Putting peanut oil on pitted skin, say on a gauze or cotton piece saturated with the oil so it can soak in for a while, has worked for some people with acne pits. Reports were that it actually soaked into the pits and over time the surface leveled out. Don't know about your particular case. I also know that my step-mother got rid of a discolored scar on the face from an infected insect bite with repeated applications of Coconut Oil. I had an open sore from a burn which became infected and destroyed all the skin in that part. After the infection had been killed, it would not heal up, but after one application of castor oil (soaked bandage over this spot for a day) it began to heal immediately. In this case there was a scar, but the skin is smooth and near normal. I think if I had continued with applications of oils over a long time the scar tissue would have been absorbed. I also had excellent healing of cuts and sores with applications of cotton soaked with CS and a drop of DMSO for penetration. (Plain CS on the surface can heal the surface and leave infection below where it doesn't penetrate.) You would have to decide if this is appropriate in your case. You can certainly do some of this stuff after the skin has healed if you don't want to use it before. Dan Subject: Re: CSCANSEMA Salve -- suppliers From: panamp...@aol.com Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 11:56:10 EST To: silver-list@eskimo.com In a message dated 12/25/05 6:09:11 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, panamp...@aol.com writes: Thanks Raine I am also curious about the way Cansema works. Is it true that it only effects cancerous skin? !My nose is now pitted, like a bad case of acne. Pete Raine et al, I am just repeating this msg as I know many are still and have been on vacation, and probably have let their 'puters rest for a few days. I am at a quandary rather to reapply Cansema to my nose, not knowing if I got most of the cancerous material. I also wonder if the dents(pits) on the nose will ever smooth out. Currently I have a 2nd shedding about to take place on the front top point of nose which had been purple. I would welcome any responses or experiences similar to mine if any. Pete -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.7/214 - Release Date: 12/23/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSO3 H2O2
Terry Chamberlin wrote: JBB said, Thanks for this. I have had varying reports about ozonated water but am still not clear about the benefits or potential detriments. I think Terry Chamberlin at one time indicated having some knowledge about this topic. . All that I have read, including the ebook by Dr. Douglass, seems inconclusive to me about the issue of one or the other (H2O2 or ozonated water) producing free radicals (oxidizing agents) in the body. If one needed the benefits of oxytherapy but was concerned about this, it might be prudent to include significant quantities of anti-oxidant supplements (selenium, Vit C, Vit E, etc.) in their diets while utilizing any oxytherapy. The amazing reports of success and benefits from the use of both ozonated water and H2O2 make it a resource not to be dismissed. I have twice had to take antibiotics because of a tooth infection that I waited too long to treat with alternative therapies. During antibiotic use, I discontinued ingesting CS so as to not counteract the antibiotics. Why would they counteract each other? I happen to have an infected tooth root right now, and am taking EIS, penecillian, olive leaf extract and magnetic pulsing it. After 3 days it is only slightly sensitive now. I definitely will continue the EIS to prevent a yeast flare-up, which I get if I take an antibiotic withoug the EIS. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCANSEMA Salve -- Pete
I've heard people have really good luck with those silicone bandages from Curad or Band-Aid and that they work better than the scar creams, etc. I don't have personal experience though. Shelli - Original Message - From: grace1...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 10:03 AM Subject: Re: CSCANSEMA Salve -- Pete Pete: Sorry I have no experience dealing with scarring. Did you try the obvious remedies--vitamin E oil, and scar salves/remedies available over the counter? Thanks for your reports and documentation; it really helps the rest of us who build upon your experiences. Jill
CSNiacin overdose
Too much niacin can also stress the liver so it is wise to be cautious. The amount of niacin that would be needed to be ingested in order to stress the liver is actually a difficult amount to get used to. Ted is taking 6,000 mg/day, and his liver is fine, I bet. Also, a very important thing to remember about taking individual B vitamins is that the body is designed to metabolize all the B complex together, and taking individual B vitamins can cause a deficiency of some of the others. To be safe, whenever you take a significant amount of a specific B vitamin (like niacin, or B12), or take it for an extended time, it is good to be ingesting a total B complex food, like nutritional yeast, or taking a B complex supplement that contains ALL the B vitamins (not just the ones the doctors think are important). A good, food-source, comprehensive B complex supplement would be the kind where you need to take several capsules/tablets per meal/day, rather than the One-A-Day type, which only has a few synthetically-made B vitamins. Besides the fact that it wouldnt hurt you to be getting extra B vitamins, it would also provide your body with the ones needed to help metabolize the niacin or whatever. The doctor I first read about (forgot his name) who uses mega-doses of niacin to very successfully treat schizophrenia used 30,000 mg/day (injection, not orally). He was the one who also mentioned the need to add generous amounts of the whole B complex, from food sources, not synthetically made. Terry Chamberlin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSNiacin flush
Sandi said, Thanks for this url - what dosage amount would you say is good to start with? and which type/brand? Sandi, I would be quite conservative in the amount I started off with, maybe 25-50 mg. The first-time flush can be, for some folks, extremely unpleasant, almost painful. My first time was 500 mg, and I thought I had caught fire. One friend I suggested try this actually started crying. Just start small. You can always increase the amount to the limit of your comfort zone. After awhile, like Ted, the flush becomes quite tame. Some folks like it (of course, theyre not burning up!). I'm not sure the brand is significant. Ted, what do you think? Terry Chamberlin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNiacin flush
Terry, How right you are in suggesting low incremental start doses. First time I experienced niacin flush it came suddenly. I coming out of a store when it hit me. Thought I was having a severe heart attack. Had to sit for at least 15 minutes before I recovered. Wasn't till years later that I realized what I had done. I recall taking 100 mgs in addition to a multi 100 B complex-supplement which would have put the dose at 200mg. Any first time unpleasant experience can be detrimental mentally to future positive benefits. Carol Ann Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca wrote: Sandi said, Thanks for this url - what dosage amount would you say is good to start with? and which type/brand? Sandi, I would be quite conservative in the amount I started off with, maybe 25-50 mg. The first-time flush can be, for some folks, extremely unpleasant, almost painful. My first time was 500 mg, and I thought I had caught fire. One friend I suggested try this actually started crying. Just start small. You can always increase the amount to the limit of your comfort zone. After awhile, like Ted, the flush becomes quite tame. Some folks like it (of course, theyre not burning up!). I'm not sure the brand is significant. Ted, what do you think? Terry Chamberlin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour Carol Ann ___ The Pessimist complains about the Wind; The Optimist expects it to change; The Realist adjusts the Sails. - The world needs more sailors. - Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less
Re: CSCANSEMA Salve -- suppliers
Hi Pete, Although I haven't yet experimented myself with using escharotic salves, I've been reading Ingrid Naimon's book Cancer Salves http://www.cancersalves.com/publications/book.html and thought I'd pass on what she advises in case it is of any use to you. She says that after the eschar detaches, the site should be bloodless, clean and pinkish. Sometimes the site is flat, other times there is a significant crater. Often, there is a hole at the bottom of the crater from which morbid material is discharged. This is usually greenish-grey with an unpleasant odor. If this is the case, it is important that the hole remains open so long as the discharge continues. Poulticing (suggestion: equal parts slippery elm, lobelia, bayberry root bark and flax seeds) keeps the area clean, draws out the morbid material, and prevents the site from closing. When the discharge subsides, her recipe Golden Myrrical, for healing the site is 5oz Goldenseal, 4oz Myrhh and 3 oz Irish Moss blended with castor oil and cured overnight in a yoghurt maker. This lotion helps to keep the site from closing prematurely. Sometimes, after detachment of the eschar, parts of the tumor remain of a different colour to the healthy tissue. Sometimes greenish gray patches can be seen, and if any part remains it's necessary to apply diluted enucleating paste to that spot. It can be diluted and painted on these spots or packed into the crater, depending on how much appears to be remaining. Apparently unless the salve is diluted it will hurt. If there are only a few tiny spots, the escharotic can be applied directly to those spots ( being careful to apply the preperation to a larger area than the visible tumor). The rest of the crater can be filled with the herbal mixture described above. The site should be bandaged/plaster. She says that if some of the tumor remains, it can because the tumor was large and deep, or too little of the enucleating salve was used, or because scratches in the eschar were not made or this step was omitted (something she recommends in order to penetrate the eschar and reach the tumor underneath) and that it is crucial that any residuals are necrotized whilst there is easy access to them. A second eschar will form, usually smaller than the first one and will also usually detach faster. While waiting for it to form, the procedures are essentially the same as the first time. The enucleating salve should be used until the tumor is necrotized. Poultices are indicated when there is discharge and Golden Myrrical can be applied to assist seperation. The area should be kept occlusive and dressings changed at least every day. The site should be kept clean with Colloidal Silver/ Hydrogen Peroxide. This cycle is repeated so long as there is evidence or suspicion of remaining malignancy. When completely satisfied that destruction of the entire tumor has occurred, healing can be permitted. At this time, the treatment site should be free of discharges and odor and should appear entirely clean and pinkish To be extra certain, it may still be wise to apply poultices and ointments for a few more days. She lists various recipes in her book, but a simple healing salve can be made from Goldenseal powder and honey, or a simple Calendula based ointment can be used. When the time comes to close the treatment site, she recommends that Turmeric be added to any healing ointment used, in order to prevent scarring, the healing salve applied thickly for a few days under a bandage/plaster, later gently rubbed into treatment area and surrounding tissue. The Homeopathic remedy Hydrastis candensis can also be used in the healing stage, 3 or 4 times a day for a week. Her recipe for a gentler enucleating paste than Bloodroot based black salves is : 5oz Goldenseal 4oz Turmeric 3oz White Willow Calendula Oil Homeopathic Arnica montana and Apis mellifica can be added to the salve or taken orally for pain relief. Blend ingredients and leave overnight in a yoghurt maker. Zinc Chloride can be added gradually according to how strong a paste is desired, using a dropper bottle containing a teaspoon Zinc Chloride mixed with distilled water. (Do not touch any metal object to the Zinc Chloride) Ingrid does mention in her book that some of the escharotics on the market are so aggressive that they will cause a reaction in healthy as well as malignant tissue This is therefore a feature of that particular escharotic so that despite clams to the contrary reactions are not a clue to malignancy or lack thereof. She says that bloodroot is so unpredictable and inflammatory that there is no way to estimate it's potential action once applied to the skin. There may be no reaction at all or it may become so systemic that excruciating pain and fever are almost immediate and prefers salves based on Goldenseal which she refers to as being elegant and precise I
Re: CSCANSEMA Salve -- Pete
You might want to check-out Emu oil. I have heard it raved about but not personally tried it. Paula - Original Message - From: grace1...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 11:03 AM Subject: Re: CSCANSEMA Salve -- Pete Pete: Sorry I have no experience dealing with scarring. Did you try the obvious remedies--vitamin E oil, and scar salves/remedies available over the counter? Thanks for your reports and documentation; it really helps the rest of us who build upon your experiences. Jill -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.8/215 - Release Date: 12/27/05 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.8/215 - Release Date: 12/27/05
RE: CSre: lung infection questions
A similar actual incident occurred several years ago. No one died, but one nurse of severely injured. The substance emanated from a patient's body. At that time, nothing was knows about the cause of the effect. -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 5:29 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSre: lung infection questions On Life in the ER a few nights ago, there was this lady that came in exuding a potent smell that nearly killed everyone in the ER. Turned out to be a third or forth metabolite byproduct of DMSO. According to that story, the normal metabolite of DMSO is harmless DMSO2, but when coupled with oxygen therapy it makes DMSO3 or DMSO4, a deadly nerve agent. She died. Everyone else got really sick for days. True? I dunno. It is, after all, a TV show. Ode Marshall Dudley wrote: charles thomson wrote: to odecoyote/marshall dudley.you both gave me some good advice some time ago re: my wifes' chronic lung infection..she stopped using most of her presribed meds(it looked to me like they were killing her) and has been using a nebulizer with a cs solution of 5-8% with 10% dmso addedshe is much improved, both in health and attitude...currently she is having some trouble with a phlegm buildup and a sporatic cough..now the questions. is there info re:better results obtained with a stronger solution of cs and dmso...if so what were the strengths used *Higher ppm of CS might increase it's effectiveness somewhat, as long as the particle size is kept down. As far as mixing with dmso, I need to defer to Brooks Bradley on that, he was the one initially reported the enhancement of this protocol by adding dmso, and would be in a much better position to give you an accurate answer. Fact is, the CS works so well, I have never personally needed to add the dmso, plus I am having a hard time finding it in my area.* *Marshall* she is currently using her neb twice a day...any suggestions thank you again for past interest and helpchuckl Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/photos/*http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ ph//page?.file=calendar_splash.html.dir=. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.5/212 - Release Date: 12/23/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CS
Superb. Jim -Original Message- From: Terry Chamberlin [mailto:tcj...@yahoo.ca] Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 7:16 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS Marshall said, .. I am still somewhat at a loss here as to what terminology to use to definitively separate a molecular silver ion from a suspended silver crystal. I still like the molecular ion, but maybe another good term would be a disassociated ion. Part of the confusion is also tied to the definition of *colloidal*. Dr. Carey Reams (physicist, biochemist) didn't limit the size of a colloidal particle to something unable to passing through a cell wall. He said that some colloids were so small they could pass through glass. Also, the concept that suspended silver particles are not utilized by the body or that ionic silver particles are argyria-causing to the body is irrelevant if silver particles are changed by the body into *ionic* silver by stomach acid, digestion, etc. But silversmiths who were exposed to metallic silver powder and either inhaled it or continually got it on their skin acquired argyria. Either the silver particles did cause argyria, or else the silver particles were made ionic by some metabolic function (digestion, etc.), which then caused argyria, or else more than one form of silver can cause argyria. In any case, argyria does not occur when silver particles (in any form) are nanometer in size. Dr. Robert Demling emphasized the point that, as silver particles become smaller, they operate in unique ways that larger particles do not. When you are discussing nanosilver, all the rules and concerns are different. Silver particles that are in a certain range of sizes are considered suspended in water, and we have called them *colloidal*. When they fall below a certain size, they are considered to be dissolved, and we have been calling them *ionic*. We arbitrarily label the first group *particles*, though they are all particles (using common scientific definitions), and the second group *ions*, though they are also particles, and both groups all have a charge (which is the common definition of an ion). Including silver nitrate into the group called *ionic* only muddies the water even more, because we have (inappropriately) been using that word to specify silver particles so small that there is no concern for safety, they are too small to be a problem. From a purely literal standpoint, silver-nitrate IS ionic because it has a charge (does it?), but that makes us need a vocabulary that differentiates between *good ionic* and *bad ionic*, and we're already having trouble with *ionic* and *colloidal*. I have looked up the definitions of *dissolved*, *solution* and *homogeneous* (a word that is part of the definition of a solution). I have tried to find a clear description of the properties that would make a distinction between the two, but found it to be quite unclear. If the particles are bigger than a certain size, they are declared to be in suspension. If smaller than that, they are labeled *in solution*. I have repeatedly seen an (apparently) arbitrary measurement of a particle in *suspension* of .001 to 0.1 nanometers, with the inference being that a particle smaller than .001 nm is now in solution and no longer in suspension. Where did that standard come from? If a particle that is .001 nm is in suspension, why is a particle that is .000999 nm in solution? What is the difference between suspension and solution? To say that the silver is now dissolved into the water is a meaningless statement with out a clear definition of *dissolve* and *solution*. The dictionary says that it is *homogeneous*, another word with a vague definition. Argyria HAS been caused by metallic silver particles, i.e., silver dust. This is best demonstrated by the incidence of argyria among silversmiths, who are exposed to silver dust on their skin and inhaled into their lungs. This seems to me to rebut the idea that only silver ions cause argyria. I have repeatedly seen the silver-salt-sunlight-photo concept described as the mechanism causing argyria, but I do not think it is that simple. It would not, to me, explain silversmith argyria adequately. The evidence is strong that silver in ANY form is lethal to pathogens. The vendors who claim that one form or the other is not effective are either ignorant of the widespread experience of many, many people, or else they are being dishonest in order to promote their products. Since we know that, the smaller the silver particles, the safer they are (Demling), we have wanted to differentiate between the safe and the unsafe. I personally am not concerned about ionic or colloidal or particulate or whatever. If you dissolve/suspend pure silver into pure, steam-distilled water using electricity, and you don't brew it until it's muddy, you will find it to be beneficial to your body without needing caution about using it. As far as safety is concerned, I think the only real consideration is particle
RE: CSEfficacy of antibiotic treatment for Lyme disease
Very Interesting. Thank you Catherine. Jim -Original Message- From: Catherine Creel [mailto:catherine.cr...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 10:16 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSEfficacy of antibiotic treatment for Lyme disease From the National Library of Medicine: Clinical Alert: Chronic Lyme Disease Symptoms Not Helped by Intensive Antibiotic Treatment National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease (NIAID) Results of the first randomized, placebo-controlled, double-blind trials testing antibiotics in patients with a stubborn form of Lyme disease those whose symptoms persist after standard courses of antibiotics validate that these patients suffer significant pain and other disabling symptoms. The two trials found, however, that a 90-day course of intravenous and oral antibiotics was no better than placebo at improving these chronic symptoms. Because of their potential importance to Lyme disease treatment, The New England Journal of Medicine is publishing these findings today online at http://www.nejm.org. The report will appear in the July 12th print edition of the journal. The studies were funded by a National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) contract to Mark S. Klempner, M.D., of Boston University School of Medicine. Our results suggest that we need to define the cause or causes of the debilitating, persisting symptoms experienced by some patients with Lyme disease. Understanding the origin of these symptoms should lead to more effective therapeutic approaches to ameliorate these symptoms, says Dr. Klempner. Based on experience with other chronic infectious diseases caused by persisting bacteria syphilis, tuberculosis, and ulcers, for example we think it is unlikely that a longer course of treatment or different antibiotic combination would result in greater improvement than what we found in these studies. Significantly, more than 700 different blood and cerebrospinal fluid samples were collected from the study volunteers. None of the samples showed evidence of persistent infection with the Lyme agent, Borrelia burgdorferi. This suggests, Dr. Klempner says, that researchers should investigate autoimmune and other processes to determine whether they play a role in a least some of the symptoms of chronic Lyme disease. The trials were carried out by primary investigators and their staffs at three centers: New England Medical Center in Boston (Dr. Klempner's former affiliation); New York Medical College in Valhalla (Arthur Weinstein, M.D.); and Yale-New Haven Hospital in Connecticut (Janine Evans, M.D.) Volunteers were recruited through hundreds of screening clinics set up in schools, hospitals, and town halls located in these areas where Lyme disease is highly endemic. A total of 129 volunteers enrolled in the two studies. All participants had well-documented Lyme disease and had previously received at least one course of recommended antibiotics. Despite prior antibiotic treatment, the volunteers currently suffered from persisting muscle or joint pains and complained of memory and thinking problems, often associated with fatigue. Although both trials were identical in design, one trial enrolled 78 chronic Lyme disease patients who tested positive for antibodies to the Lyme bacterium, while the other trial enrolled 51 people with chronic symptoms but no evidence of antibodies. In each study, volunteers were assigned at random to receive either antibiotic treatment or an inactive placebo. Treatment consisted of intravenous ceftriaxone, 2 grams daily, for 30 days, followed by oral doxycycline, 200 milligrams daily, for 60 days. The investigators evaluated symptom improvement based on the patients' responses to a health-related quality-of-life questionnaire given 90 days after they completed the course of antibiotic treatment or placebo. An interim data analysis planned into the design of the trials was carried out last November by a Data and Safety Monitoring Board (DSMB), an independent group of doctors and researchers. The DSMB unanimously recommended that NIAID stop the treatment arm of both trials because the data showed no significant difference in the percentage of patients who received either antibiotic treatment or placebo who felt their symptoms had improved, worsened, or stayed the same: a little more than one-third felt better, about one-third felt worse, and slightly less than one-third felt the same. The DSMB's review suggested that even with continued accrual of another 131 patients, the number needed to reach full enrollment, there was only a slight chance a difference between the antibiotic treatment and placebo groups would be found. NIAID agreed with the DSMB's recommendation, as well as their recommendation that the investigators continue to follow the patients to monitor them for safety and to learn more about possible causes of chronic Lyme disease. Although we still have much to learn, says Dr. Klempner, we know
RE: CS
Precision is not an issue, when one amount is 10 times the other. In the last few days I have seen both 3.5% and 35% recommended. Jim -Original Message- From: Nancy DeLise [mailto:nancym...@prodigy.net] Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 10:43 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS The easiest and most precise is 3.5%. - Original Message - From: Jim Holmes ami...@starband.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 12:40 PM Subject: RE: CS Can someone clarify for me the concentration of H2O2 to use when putting 2 drops in 8 ounces. Should it be 3.5% or 35%. TIA, Jim -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 5:23 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS At 09:53 AM 12/20/2005 -0600, you wrote: Please give me some clarification Is H2o2Topical Hydrogen Peroxide? I have heard of people putting Hydrogen Peroxide in the CSare they using Topical Hydrogen Peroxide that you put on external sores? ## That is correct..off the shelf 3%. Ode I start making my CS at home and have been drinking it for about 6 months...I feel that the CS goes through my body to fast too and would like to get a deep affect from the CS. ## Elimination rate IS quite fast..which also makes it very safe to use a LOT, like quarts even, at least for a while. Ode Thanks for your help Gwlynda -- From: Nancy DeLise [mailto:nancym...@prodigy.net] Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 11:34 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE I took 16- 20 oz. of my home made Cs for 2 1/2 years. When I learned about Sovereign Silver, I took 2 teaspoons four times a day. Now that I am about 90 % cured of my MS, I take 8 oz. of my home made in the morning and 2 teaspoons of Sovereign Silver two times a day.(MS is a virus and I would never stop completely) As far as the H2o2, I put 1 drop of H2o2 into 2 oz. of CS and let it sit for about 15 minutes. The H2o2 interacts with the silver and causes the particles to break up into much smaller particles, and more of it gets utilized by the body rather then just going thru quickly. Nancy - Original Message - From: mailto:granb...@msn.comGreg Ball To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 11:09 PM Subject: Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE Nancy - I may have missed this in another post, but how much sovereign did you take, and did you combine that with homemade? Also, how did you make your homemade silver? Lastly, why mix the silver with the H202? I have an ozone machine and can drink ozone water. Would this be the same because it ads oxygen? or is there something about the peroxide thats unique? Does it combine somehow with the silver? Thanks so much for sharing! No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.1 - Release Date: 12/19/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.2 - Release Date: 12/20/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.3/209 - Release Date: 12/21/2005
RE: CS[List Owner] I'm back...
I hope that everyone's pain is not proportional to how much they loved him. Jim -Original Message- From: tdg39 [mailto:td...@tampabay.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 8:01 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CS[List Owner] I'm back... Condolences on your Rosie's loss.Terry _ From: Deborah Gerard [mailto:devorah...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 9:43 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS[List Owner] I'm back... So sorry about your father-in-law Mike please give condolance's to Rosiedeb M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote: Hi folks, I've been silent for the last week for the simple reason I wasn't here. We were called to Florida to attend my wife's Dad's death and funeral. Rosie's family is quite close, and we all flew or drove down when word came that he was close to the end. Though he's been terminally ill for some time, it was still very hard for everyone, as he was a really special person to a lot of people, not least his wife and children. I was only able to log on to a computer a couple of times while we were gone, and only enough to a) delete the thousands of bounce messages and spam, and b) observe that there didn't seem to be a great melt-down happening on the list. There were a couple of complaints in my in-box about excessive message volume and topic wandering, plus a few of you seem to have forgotten that you *must* turn off your fancy formatting and send plain text if you're going to get your messages past the 18k message size limit. I'm going through the backlog of messages now, and will probably post a message or two asking for topics to be ended or moved, plus anything else I see needing a tweak. Altogether, and in anticipation of my reading of all your messages, I believe thanks are in order for your carrying on so well in my absence. Peace, my friends. Mike Devour silver-list owner [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your mess! age to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSNiacin overdose-Liver Harm
Yup, TeL's liver is great but I do herbal tea as well, a good liver cleanse is Chanca Piedera Articchoke also can add Burdock Root Powder and make tea. Drink once a week, and drinking some now. Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. - Original Message - From: Terry Chamberlin To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 9:51 AM Subject: CSNiacin overdose Too much niacin can also stress the liver so it is wise to be cautious. The amount of niacin that would be needed to be ingested in order to stress the liver is actually a difficult amount to get used to. Ted is taking 6,000 mg/day, and his liver is fine, I bet. Also, a very important thing to remember about taking individual B vitamins is that the body is designed to metabolize all the B complex together, and taking individual B vitamins can cause a deficiency of some of the others. To be safe, whenever you take a significant amount of a specific B vitamin (like niacin, or B12), or take it for an extended time, it is good to be ingesting a total B complex food, like nutritional yeast, or taking a B complex supplement that contains ALL the B vitamins (not just the ones the doctors think are important). A good, food-source, comprehensive B complex supplement would be the kind where you need to take several capsules/tablets per meal/day, rather than the One-A-Day type, which only has a few synthetically-made B vitamins. Besides the fact that it wouldn't hurt you to be getting extra B vitamins, it would also provide your body with the ones needed to help metabolize the niacin or whatever. The doctor I first read about (forgot his name) who uses mega-doses of niacin to very successfully treat schizophrenia used 30,000 mg/day (injection, not orally). He was the one who also mentioned the need to add generous amounts of the whole B complex, from food sources, not synthetically made. Terry Chamberlin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCANSEMA Salve -- Pete
My mother has tried emu oil and swears by it that it took her aching pain in her thigh away. However, this was only temp. relief. You need to keep applying it which mean buying more of it. From: Paula Perry p...@zoomnet.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCANSEMA Salve -- Pete Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 12:26:55 -0500 You might want to check-out Emu oil. I have heard it raved about but not personally tried it. Paula - Original Message - From: grace1...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 11:03 AM Subject: Re: CSCANSEMA Salve -- Pete Pete: Sorry I have no experience dealing with scarring. Did you try the obvious remedies--vitamin E oil, and scar salves/remedies available over the counter? Thanks for your reports and documentation; it really helps the rest of us who build upon your experiences. Jill -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.8/215 - Release Date: 12/27/05 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.8/215 - Release Date: 12/27/05 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCANSEMA Salve -- suppliers
Thank you Shiona for sharing this invaluable information. I will see what I can do with this advice now to normalize my nose as much as possible. It has been an interesting experiment to say the least as I was somewhat apprehensive from the start. Pete
CSCS antibiotics
Terry Chamberlin said, During antibiotic use, I discontinued ingesting CS so as to not counteract the antibiotics. Marshall said, Why would they counteract each other? My understanding of an antibiotic is that it releases live organisms into the body that kill certain specific bacteria. If that is accurate, the CS would kill those released organisms? __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNiacin overdose-Liver Harm
To Cleanse liversqueeze 3 lemons in perrier water and drink every day!...about 20 ozsip for a half hour on empty stomach. cari Tel Tofflemire telt...@cableone.net wrote: Yup, TeL's liver is great but I do herbal tea as well, a good liver cleanse is Chanca Piedera Articchoke also can add Burdock Root Powder and make tea. Drink once a week, and drinking some now. Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. - Original Message - From: Terry Chamberlin To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 9:51 AM Subject: CSNiacin overdose Too much niacin can also stress the liver so it is wise to be cautious. The amount of niacin that would be needed to be ingested in order to stress the liver is actually a difficult amount to get used to. Ted is taking 6,000 mg/day, and his liver is fine, I bet. Also, a very important thing to remember about taking individual B vitamins is that the body is designed to metabolize all the B complex together, and taking individual B vitamins can cause a deficiency of some of the others. To be safe, whenever you take a significant amount of a specific B vitamin (like niacin, or B12), or take it for an extended time, it is good to be ingesting a total B complex food, like nutritional yeast, or taking a B complex supplement that contains ALL the B vitamins (not just the ones the doctors think are important). A good, food-source, comprehensive B complex supplement would be the kind where you need to take several capsules/tablets per meal/day, rather than the One-A-Day type, which only has a few synthetically-made B vitamins. Besides the fact that it wouldn't hurt you to be getting extra B vitamins, it would also provide your body with the ones needed to help metabolize the niacin or whatever. The doctor I first read about (forgot his name) who uses mega-doses of niacin to very successfully treat schizophrenia used 30,000 mg/day (injection, not orally). He was the one who also mentioned the need to add generous amounts of the whole B complex, from food sources, not synthetically made. Terry Chamberlin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com - Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever.
RE: CS
Someone else wrote that one nurse did die. I am not sure who is correct. -Original Message- From: Jim Holmes [mailto:ami...@starband.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 10:35 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CS Precision is not an issue, when one amount is 10 times the other. In the last few days I have seen both 3.5% and 35% recommended. Jim -Original Message- From: Nancy DeLise [mailto:nancym...@prodigy.net] Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 10:43 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS The easiest and most precise is 3.5%. - Original Message - From: Jim Holmes ami...@starband.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 12:40 PM Subject: RE: CS Can someone clarify for me the concentration of H2O2 to use when putting 2 drops in 8 ounces. Should it be 3.5% or 35%. TIA, Jim -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 5:23 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS At 09:53 AM 12/20/2005 -0600, you wrote: Please give me some clarification Is H2o2Topical Hydrogen Peroxide? I have heard of people putting Hydrogen Peroxide in the CSare they using Topical Hydrogen Peroxide that you put on external sores? ## That is correct..off the shelf 3%. Ode I start making my CS at home and have been drinking it for about 6 months...I feel that the CS goes through my body to fast too and would like to get a deep affect from the CS. ## Elimination rate IS quite fast..which also makes it very safe to use a LOT, like quarts even, at least for a while. Ode Thanks for your help Gwlynda -- From: Nancy DeLise [mailto:nancym...@prodigy.net] Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 11:34 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE I took 16- 20 oz. of my home made Cs for 2 1/2 years. When I learned about Sovereign Silver, I took 2 teaspoons four times a day. Now that I am about 90 % cured of my MS, I take 8 oz. of my home made in the morning and 2 teaspoons of Sovereign Silver two times a day.(MS is a virus and I would never stop completely) As far as the H2o2, I put 1 drop of H2o2 into 2 oz. of CS and let it sit for about 15 minutes. The H2o2 interacts with the silver and causes the particles to break up into much smaller particles, and more of it gets utilized by the body rather then just going thru quickly. Nancy - Original Message - From: mailto:granb...@msn.comGreg Ball To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 11:09 PM Subject: Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE Nancy - I may have missed this in another post, but how much sovereign did you take, and did you combine that with homemade? Also, how did you make your homemade silver? Lastly, why mix the silver with the H202? I have an ozone machine and can drink ozone water. Would this be the same because it ads oxygen? or is there something about the peroxide thats unique? Does it combine somehow with the silver? Thanks so much for sharing! No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.1 - Release Date: 12/19/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.2 - Release Date: 12/20/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.3/209 - Release Date: 12/21/2005
RE: CSCS antibiotics
Antibiotics are the excreta of live organisms, or a synthetic reproduction of that substance. The bacteria release the substances to kill others that are competing for food. -Original Message- From: Terry Chamberlin [mailto:tcj...@yahoo.ca] Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 12:28 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSCS antibiotics Terry Chamberlin said, During antibiotic use, I discontinued ingesting CS so as to not counteract the antibiotics. Marshall said, Why would they counteract each other? My understanding of an antibiotic is that it releases live organisms into the body that kill certain specific bacteria. If that is accurate, the CS would kill those released organisms? __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSDermal argyria
Terry Chamberlin said, But silversmiths who were exposed to metallic silver powder and either inhaled it or continually got it on their skin acquired argyria. Marshall responded, The inhaling is easy to explain since the lungs oxidize metallic silver particles into silver oxide with h2o2. Getting it on the skin is harder to explain, and in fact I suspect that it may be an incorrect assumption, all was really absorbed by breathing it. ... we know silver dust becomes silver oxide in the lungs and goes into the blood as an ionic compound. What mechanism forms the absorption of silver on the skin? Is the dust basically working itself into the skin forming a tattoo directly? If so, this is irrelevant to taking it orally where it has to get into the blood stream first before it can reach the skin. On the topic of argyria from dermal application of silver, see: http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/toxprofiles/tp146-c2.pdf Dermal. Medical case histories indicate that dermal exposure to silver or silver compounds for extended periods of time can lead to local skin discoloration similar in nature to the generalized pigmentation seen after repeated oral exposure. Other Systemic Effects. Decreased body weight gain was observed in guinea pigs following application of 81 mg silver nitrate (2 mL of a 0.239 M solution) to 3.1 cm2 of skin. At the end of 8 weeks, the silver nitrate-exposed guinea pigs weighed approximately 10-20% less than unexposed controls and controls exposed to distilled water (Wahlberg 1965). 2.3.2.3 Dermal Exposure Following the topical application of silver nitrate for the treatment of burns in two humans, silver was distributed to the muscles (0.03-2.3 ppm), liver (0.44 ppm), spleen (0.23 ppm), kidney (0.14 ppm), heart (0.032-0.04 ppm), and bones (0.025 ppm) (Bader 1966). No studies were located that quantitated the distribution of silver in animals following dermal exposure to silver or its compounds. However, Sano et al. (1982) detected silver in the same tissues of rats following topical application of silver sulphadiazine cream. 2.3.4.3 Dermal Exposure No studies were located concerning the excretion of silver by humans or animals following dermal exposure to elemental silver or silver compounds. *Once absorption through the skin and distribution to bodily tissues occurs*, it can be expected that elimination would be similar to that of silver absorbed via oral or inhalation exposure, that is, primarily via the feces, with minimal amounts excreted in the urine. This next was interesting, concerning silver's potential reactions to other minerals/chemicals. 2.6 INTERACTIONS WITH OTHER CHEMICALS As with other metals, relationships exist through which silver can influence the absorption, distribution, and excretion of one or more other metals. These influences are not known to increase the toxicity of other metals, nor are other metals known to add to any toxic effects of silver. Marshall said, When you increase the current density then the concentration near the anode increases, increasing aggregation, and if you don't stir, or if the water is hot you have the same effect. If chunks were breaking off then the size would be affected by the voltage, not the current, and all our tests have confirmed that it is current not voltage that effects particle size. Your reasoning comes from low-voltage brewed CS. When you use higher-voltage, as I do, the wires are too far apart for this to be a consideration. My wires are 5-1/2 apart. ALL of the DW is between the wires, so the concentration near the anode is the finished product (15-20 ppm). If the size was affected by the voltage, my CS would have very large particles, but in fact I have almost no Tyndall. I get away with my voltage because I have very low current. Whether its bigger particles breaking off the anode, or the silver particles aggregating to themselves is not important. I suspect you are correct about that being the mechanism. The type is relevant, as well as the size. Silver ions are extremely reactive, and silver particles are very non reactive, that is easily proven with the the salt or HCl test. Silver ions will plate out on silver particles when in the presence of a developer such as caffeine.. Ive been drinking about 20 oz/day of CS for the last 5+ years in the form of brewed coffee. No gray/blue anywhere that I can see. Even silver-nitrate, if it is crystal clear, would not be a problem I bet, because the tiny particle size would also limit the amount of it that could be ingested. Terry Chamberlin __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and
Re: CSBlack Salve-no scars
I used wood sorrel paste that I made on 2 places on my chest. I am have olive skin so the 2 places are just a lighter color. A few yrs back I went to a doctor and when he saw my chest, he asked what happened and I told him i would tell one day...I didn't want to say it in front of the nurse. He asked, you didn't get shot or anything like that? and laughed. I never told him. i used Herb Veil on a couple places on my face and again it's just the difference in the skin color. After a couple of yrs, they do look much better. Edith In a message dated 12/27/05 7:38:50 AM Central Standard Time, telt...@cableone.net writes: A Lady here where I live pulled a cancer off her thumb, in about 4 days after first applied with Black salve. It had two tentacles about 2 to 3 inches long that cam out with it. The size of the cancer was the size of two raisins. No scar as she used CS every few min, after the cancer came off. She did get nervous when it started to burn , she kept spray it with cs and that helped the pain. I and others suggested to her to keep spraying the cs after the cancer came off. no scars and no cancer, it has been 3 months now. Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. - Original Message - From: panamp...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 6:03 AM Subject: Re: CSCANSEMA Salve -- Pete Good advice Raine! I will wait and see hw much nose I have left before I attempt another coating. My brother who has been a doctor for over 40 yrs is coming down from Cleveland for a visit after I told him about Cansema. I Emailed my other brother a pict of my face and he showed it to my mother who thought it was a homeless person!G I still haven't heard any more people tell their experience with scarring, etc.. Pete
CSAIDS http://theothersideofaids.com/
V, You wrote: Most microbes are beneficial, even some of them that have a bad name like E-coli. can have a good effect on the body. I know one guy that cures people of cancer using it. Can you give more information about the fellow. People are already being given poison at gunpoint. The Video, The other side of AIDS. Is terrifying. Many interviews with positive people. Some did not take the recommended drugs; others took AZT, etc cetera. All of the ones who took the drugs look like and say they feel like death lightly warmed. The ones who did not take the poison are smiling and looking good. You know the test will show EVERYONE positive unless you dilute the blood a lot...100X , I think, but am not sure of my memory of that. One woman was forced at gunpoint to take the shit while pregnant. The lovely little girl is obviously dorked. The parents know it was the drugs. Another, who had a healthy child, is forced to give it AZT or face having the child taken from her and given the AZT. The look of regret on these parents' faces is terrible. I have not been so depressed by anything for years, including 911. AIDS is created by lumping together symptoms of several diseases, and naming it. One criteria is the number of a type of white cell in the blood. Canada does not use that standard, so you can be diagnosed with AIDS in the US, and move to Canada and---as if by magic---, you no longer have the condition. The drugs that the state forces on people at gunpoint have NEVER BEEN APPROVED by the (criminal) FDA. If anyone can find a paper demonstrating either the successful isolation of or culturing of the virus, please send to me the information on how to get a copy. I know a PhD microbiologist who has been searching for such a paper for several years. A friend of his directly asked Robert Gallo (Received credit for creating the first test for the condition) for the paper, and Gallo turned white, said nothing, and turned and walked rapidly away. You may obtain the movie at: http://theothersideofaids.com/ Jim My mind is bleeding; my heart is sinking and I cry out in anger and fear. LOOK, I shout! Everywhere around me straw men turn away and snicker. Those who see say; What can I do?, and click for another channel of numb. -Original Message- From: V [mailto:vzo...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 7:08 PM To: grace1...@aol.com Subject: ***Possible Spam*** Re: CSCS misting Hi Grace1way, yes you do want to expose yourself. that is why children put everything in their mouths it is a way to introduce environment microbes to the system to bulid the immunity. Most microbes are beneficial, even some of them that have a bad name like E-coli. can have a good effect on the body. I know one guy that cures people of cancer using it. this society is germ phobic which is completely unnecessary. Ass germs do not cause disease, it is an unhealthy and out of balanace body that causese disease. the germs are jsut there to clean up the mess. Just like flies dont caues garbage. the germ theory was put out by pastuer and even he denounced it when he was dying as not a valid theory. the entire medical establishment is based on that false theory and is its achilles heal. Once people realize the its not the germs that caues diseaes the whole business with disease that makes billions will collapse in a resounding dust heap. It sholud happen soon. Unless a medical dictatorship ar! ises, to perpetuate it at gunpoint, which may already be starting. http://www.expo-net.org/PasteurBechamp.html Take care, V In a message dated 12/22/2005 3:50:18 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, ch...@comcast.net writes: I may be totally off base but don't you want to expose yourself to some germs to keep your immune system strong and up to par This brings up an issue I have wondered about for a long time. Some experts advise taking a large amount of CS on a daily basis. Does that compromise the body's own immune system? Is it best to only take CS when sick? How about only taking it when REALLY SICK, so as to strengthen the immune system. What do the experts on the Silver List think? Jill -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNiacin overdose-Liver Harm
one can also try the one day liver cleanse. Requires taking a solution of epsom salts over the course of the evening and morning. As well as a cup of olive oil and lemon juice. anyone interested I'll dig up the specifics.. Ernie From: cari smith helt...@yahoo.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSNiacin overdose-Liver Harm Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 11:29:19 -0800 (PST) To Cleanse liversqueeze 3 lemons in perrier water and drink every day!...about 20 ozsip for a half hour on empty stomach. cari Tel Tofflemire telt...@cableone.net wrote: Yup, TeL's liver is great but I do herbal tea as well, a good liver cleanse is Chanca Piedera Articchoke also can add Burdock Root Powder and make tea. Drink once a week, and drinking some now. Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. - Original Message - From: Terry Chamberlin To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 9:51 AM Subject: CSNiacin overdose Too much niacin can also stress the liver so it is wise to be cautious. The amount of niacin that would be needed to be ingested in order to stress the liver is actually a difficult amount to get used to. Ted is taking 6,000 mg/day, and his liver is fine, I bet. Also, a very important thing to remember about taking individual B vitamins is that the body is designed to metabolize all the B complex together, and taking individual B vitamins can cause a deficiency of some of the others. To be safe, whenever you take a significant amount of a specific B vitamin (like niacin, or B12), or take it for an extended time, it is good to be ingesting a total B complex food, like nutritional yeast, or taking a B complex supplement that contains ALL the B vitamins (not just the ones the doctors think are important). A good, food-source, comprehensive B complex supplement would be the kind where you need to take several capsules/tablets per meal/day, rather than the One-A-Day type, which only has a few synthetically-made B vitamins. Besides the fact that it wouldn't hurt you to be getting extra B vitamins, it would also provide your body with the ones needed to help metabolize the niacin or whatever. The doctor I first read about (forgot his name) who uses mega-doses of niacin to very successfully treat schizophrenia used 30,000 mg/day (injection, not orally). He was the one who also mentioned the need to add generous amounts of the whole B complex, from food sources, not synthetically made. Terry Chamberlin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com - Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever.
Re: CSAIDS http://theothersideofaids.com/
Jim, what are people in Africa dying from by the thousands? I see the horrifying pictures on the news and it is called AIDS. All those patients look alike, skin and bones, hollow eyes. They did not receive AZT, it is too expensive for them. This is a genuine question, I really want to know. Barbara AIDS is created by lumping together symptoms of several diseases, and naming it. One criteria is the number of a type of white cell in the blood. Canada does not use that standard, so you can be diagnosed with AIDS in the US, and move to Canada and---as if by magic---, you no longer have the condition. Jim
Re: CSCANSEMA Salve -- Pete
Dear Pete, sounds like you have received very good advice from the listers here. What a wonderful, smart, supportive group of people! Regarding my personal experience with the bloodroot salve, at the time, I knew nothing about Colloidal Silver or anything else people are discussing here. So my experience was perhaps more painful and scarey looking than necessary. My cancer started as a soft skin tag on my right upper abdomen. As an experiment, after receiving my 2 oz. jar, I put some on several moles scattered over my body. This one took, beginning immediately to tingle, where other moles had no reaction. Eventually, the whole area was 4 inches by 3 inches. At one time during the cansema treatment, I could lay my fist into the cavity the cansema created. My cancers felt to be fingerlings of cells that went in 4 different directions deep into my body, rather than concentrated in one area, close to the surface, like a tumor. This is unconfirmed other than my own visualizations and meditations, as I was healing myself. I dared not take this to conventional medicine. I only imagine they would have offered me chemo and surgery, with no guarantee the situation would have been handled. I would apply the cansema, cover it and leave it on for 10 days. I was perhaps too vigorous with the cansema, but in my zeal to remove all the cancer cells from deep inside my abdomen, I applied undiluted cansema to new flesh. I did take breaks and let the skin heal over. But when reapplying, it would open up again, to reveal pin sized holes of eschar. I could feel tingling deep inside my body, and I felt the salve pulled the offending cells to the surface. I never considered supporting my healing process through the gentle herbs and creams being suggested here. Emotional support was spotty also, as it was a frightening, oozing sore that scared the people that loved me. They did not know how to help other than to insist I go to a doctor. It just never dawned on me, that it didn't have to be painful... which speaks more to my personal process of Life (i.e. Healing has to be painful). It was a sort of do it yourself project. (THAT is not how I feel today, however). The acute process took about 5 months. 2 years later, the scar is continuing to fill in and fade. It is very soft, unusual for untreated scar tissue. Or course, I am pain free, and my kinisiology checking tells me, I am cancer free. I have the blood root salve to thank for that. From what I read about the cansema, the body would rebuild the flesh over time, once the cells were healthy again. As far as your looks, you are a living testimony of healing yourself of cancer. Surgery is known to disfigure a person also, and not fix the problem. Sounds like you are getting the information and support you need. Good Healing! Laurie Transform Your Life with the Blink of your Eyes Laurie Solisz, RN Healing Science Practitioner http://www.barbarabrennan.com Professional Rapid Eye Technician http://www.rapideyetechnology.com Affecting world health one person at a time http://www.lovehealth.matol.com - Original Message - From: panamp...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 12:03 AM Subject: Re: CSCANSEMA Salve -- Pete Good advice Raine! I will wait and see hw much nose I have left before I attempt another coating. My brother who has been a doctor for over 40 yrs is coming down from Cleveland for a visit after I told him about Cansema. I Emailed my other brother a pict of my face and he showed it to my mother who thought it was a homeless person!G I still haven't heard any more people tell their experience with scarring, etc.. Pete
Re: CSAIDS http://theothersideofaids.com/
E Coli is pathogenic in the urinary tract=== not beneficial. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAIDS http://theothersideofaids.com/
Jim Holmes wrote: V, You wrote: Most microbes are beneficial, even some of them that have a bad name like E-coli. can have a good effect on the body. I know one guy that cures people of cancer using it. Can you give more information about the fellow. People are already being given poison at gunpoint. The Video, The other side of AIDS. Is terrifying. Many interviews with positive people. Some did not take the recommended drugs; others took AZT, etc cetera. All of the ones who took the drugs look like and say they feel like death lightly warmed. The ones who did not take the poison are smiling and looking good. That is kind of expected when you take a poison to kill the marker, instead of doing anything about the cause. It is like seeing smoke, and spraying it with a flammable smoke dissipator, sure the smoke disappears, but the underlying cause, the fire, only gets worse. You know the test will show EVERYONE positive unless you dilute the blood a lot...100X , I think, but am not sure of my memory of that. Yep, that is because the HIV virus, or whatever the test tests for is endemic and everyone has markers for it. One woman was forced at gunpoint to take the shit while pregnant. The lovely little girl is obviously dorked. The parents know it was the drugs. Another, who had a healthy child, is forced to give it AZT or face having the child taken from her and given the AZT. The look of regret on these parents' faces is terrible. I have not been so depressed by anything for years, including 911. AIDS is created by lumping together symptoms of several diseases, and naming it. One criteria is the number of a type of white cell in the blood. Canada does not use that standard, so you can be diagnosed with AIDS in the US, and move to Canada and---as if by magic---, you no longer have the condition. Yep, a group of symptoms that can have many causes. The drugs that the state forces on people at gunpoint have NEVER BEEN APPROVED by the (criminal) FDA. If anyone can find a paper demonstrating either the successful isolation of or culturing of the virus, please send to me the information on how to get a copy. I know a PhD microbiologist who has been searching for such a paper for several years. A friend of his directly asked Robert Gallo (Received credit for creating the first test for the condition) for the paper, and Gallo turned white, said nothing, and turned and walked rapidly away. What virus? Do you mean HIV, what is most likely a marker of lost immune system function? Did you ever hear back on how they have supposedly decoded the gnome if they have not isolated it? Marshall You may obtain the movie at: http://theothersideofaids.com/ Jim My mind is bleeding; my heart is sinking and I cry out in anger and fear. LOOK, I shout! Everywhere around me straw men turn away and snicker. Those who see say; What can I do?, and click for another channel of numb. -Original Message- From: V [mailto:vzo...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 7:08 PM To: grace1...@aol.com Subject: ***Possible Spam*** Re: CSCS misting Hi Grace1way, yes you do want to expose yourself. that is why children put everything in their mouths it is a way to introduce environment microbes to the system to bulid the immunity. Most microbes are beneficial, even some of them that have a bad name like E-coli. can have a good effect on the body. I know one guy that cures people of cancer using it. this society is germ phobic which is completely unnecessary. Ass germs do not cause disease, it is an unhealthy and out of balanace body that causese disease. the germs are jsut there to clean up the mess. Just like flies dont caues garbage. the germ theory was put out by pastuer and even he denounced it when he was dying as not a valid theory. the entire medical establishment is based on that false theory and is its achilles heal. Once people realize the its not the germs that caues diseaes the whole business with disease that makes billions will collapse in a resounding dust heap. It sholud happen soon. Unless a medical dictatorship ar! ises, to perpetuate it at gunpoint, which may already be starting. http://www.expo-net.org/PasteurBechamp.html Take care, V In a message dated 12/22/2005 3:50:18 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, ch...@comcast.net writes: I may be totally off base but don't you want to expose yourself to some germs to keep your immune system strong and up to par This brings up an issue I have wondered about for a long time. Some experts advise taking a large amount of CS on a daily basis. Does that compromise the body's own immune system? Is it best to only take CS when sick? How about only taking it when REALLY SICK, so as to strengthen the immune system. What do the experts on the Silver List think? Jill -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.
Re: CSCS misting
M. G. Devour wrote: Sol, when you get a chance, please ask your friend if she's had any silver fillings from the dentist. If so, were any put in since 1970? Marshall asks: What changed in 1970? From what I've been reading on Dr. Huggins' site, about 1970 they introduced an amalgam formulation containing more copper. It releases many times more free mercury than the older types. Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAIDS http://theothersideofaids.com/
Barbara wrote: Jim, what are people in Africa dying from by the thousands? Lots of things, many parasites that infest the people over there can cause the AIDS symptoms, and those that have a virus causing it are likely getting it from a varity of HPV which has been shown to be able to cause AIDS symptoms as well, and unlike the HIV virus is very virulent. Marshall I see the horrifying pictures on the news and it is called AIDS. All those patients look alike, skin and bones, hollow eyes. They did not receive AZT, it is too expensive for them.This is a genuine question, I really want to know. Barbara AIDS is created by lumping together symptoms of several diseases, and naming it. One criteria is the number of a type of white cell in the blood. Canada does not use that standard, so you can be diagnosed with AIDS in the US, and move to Canada and---as if by magic---, you no longer have the condition. Jim
Re: CSCANSEMA Salve... treat healing Scars with CS
In a message dated 12/26/2005 8:06:11 PM Central Standard Time, telt...@cableone.net writes: I make it now with a Model 777 Colloidal Master automatic generator. ***That's the one that I have too, Tel, and I like it a lot. I'm a horse person too. So -- tip o' the hat to ya!! MA
CSAIDS and Some of the Real Truth
Evening Barbara, This is a genuine question, I really want to know. Keep in mind that AIDS, like most other disease is only a symptom. The root cause is never discussed or attacked In same parts of Japan or China, ( maybe both ) 85 % of the people have AIDS. I have many old articles, 12 to 15 years old about population control, including a meeting with scientists and Henry Kissinger. Also a copy of the grant I think he was instrumental in getting for them. I have also read that two groups of homosexuals were given a Hepatitis B vaccination. 100% of both groups were infected with AIDS. I know, some of this is unbelievable, but much evidence points to the fact that it is true. Want to read something interesting, read about Dr. Campbell Douglass and the Aids Clinic he set up in Africa. http://www.drdouglass.com/ Read this short summary of his book, Aids and Biological Warfare. http://www.drdouglass.com/Books/aidsandbiologicalwarfare/index.htm It is only a half screen. Wayne
Re: CSAIDS http://theothersideofaids.com/
See http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/data/sblubejob.htm http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/data/jjaids.htm http://www.sumeria.net/aids/lubejob.html http://worcester.indymedia.org/news/2005/04/1119.php Benzene major cause of AIDS: http://www.health-report.co.uk/benzene-lubricants-condoms.htm It is hard to find papers that contend that the Human Papilloma virus is one actual cause of AIDS, but there are hints, like statistics that 77% of the women who test for HIV test positive for HPV (ignoring that about 77% of the women with AIDs test for HIV but virtually 100% test for HPV), and another paper that says that infection with HPV increaases the chance that one will be infected with HIV, ignoring that everyone tests positive for HIV if their blood is not diluted, and that if HIV is a marker as I think it is, then the HPV by simply supressing the immune system will cause the HIV to multiply as a marker and indicate positive. They all seem to have cause and effect mixed up. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS misting
Deborah, It's mentioned a couple of times on drhuggins.com, but he talks about it more in some of the materials you can order from their store. Re-reading what's on the site, it seems that the new formulation was introduced about 1976... just in time for me to get my first filling! Yay! sigh Be well, Mike D. could somone post the info about the change in 1970 that is really interestingdeb M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote: M. G. Devour wrote: Sol, when you get a chance, please ask your friend if she's had any silver fillings from the dentist. If so, were any put in since 1970? Marshall asks: What changed in 1970? From what I've been reading on Dr. Huggins' site, about 1970 they introduced an amalgam formulation containing more copper. It releases many times more free mercury than the older types. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCS: H2O2 help for this person?
Any safe regimen for this needy person? http://www.h2o2medicalmiracle.com/H2o2MedicalMiracle.pdf HAROLD? Hydrogen peroxide cure From: Spriggy Date: 12/27/2005 Time: 12:18:36 AM Remote Name: 63.226.214.205 Comments I read through the entire article and found it fascinating. I have Chronic Epstien Barr (my titers are always WAAAY high) and also have Fibromyalgia. they both started at the same time; along with severe depression and anxiety. I got an infection a year ago- ran fever, had a high white count, went on antibiotics and have been living a nightmare since. I have vaginal yeast infections and oral thrush off and on. Anyway, I have no access to IV hydrogen peroxide therapy ($$ and finding a dr.) but wondered about doing it orally. I read the pros/cons in the article but wondered what it would hurt if I just *tried* it in small amounts? Does anyone think it could help me? I am desperate.. Thanks Harold for posting that. It was very informative. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.8/215 - Release Date: 12/27/2005
Re: CSAIDS http://theothersideofaids.com/
See http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/data/tbmbeki.htm http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/data/tbafrica.htm http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/data/jsafrica.htm These are very enlightening about AIDs and Africa. Marshall Barbara wrote: Jim, what are people in Africa dying from by the thousands?I see the horrifying pictures on the news and it is called AIDS. All those patients look alike, skin and bones, hollow eyes. They did not receive AZT, it is too expensive for them.This is a genuine question, I really want to know. Barbara AIDS is created by lumping together symptoms of several diseases, and naming it. One criteria is the number of a type of white cell in the blood. Canada does not use that standard, so you can be diagnosed with AIDS in the US, and move to Canada and---as if by magic---, you no longer have the condition. Jim
Re: CSAIDS http://theothersideofaids.com/
Thanks Marshall. I'm also reading the links you sent in your next message. Barbara Lots of things, many parasites that infest the people over there can cause the AIDS symptoms, and those that have a virus causing it are likely getting it from a varity of HPV which has been shown to be able to cause AIDS symptoms as well, and unlike the HIV virus is very virulent. Marshall
Re: CSAIDS and Some of the Real Truth
Hi Wayne, Thank you for your message. I'm reading all kinds of articles on this subject and getting educated about the AIDS. I will be reading Dr. Douglass AIDS Clinic in Africa also. I know about population control for some time now, too. Barbara Evening Barbara, This is a genuine question, I really want to know. Keep in mind that AIDS, like most other disease is only a symptom. The root cause is never discussed or attacked In same parts of Japan or China, ( maybe both ) 85 % of the people have AIDS. I have many old articles, 12 to 15 years old about population control, including a meeting with scientists and Henry Kissinger. Also a copy of the grant I think he was instrumental in getting for them. I have also read that two groups of homosexuals were given a Hepatitis B vaccination. 100% of both groups were infected with AIDS. I know, some of this is unbelievable, but much evidence points to the fact that it is true. Want to read something interesting, read about Dr. Campbell Douglass and the Aids Clinic he set up in Africa. http://www.drdouglass.com/ Read this short summary of his book, Aids and Biological Warfare. http://www.drdouglass.com/Books/aidsandbiologicalwarfare/index.htm It is only a half screen. Wayne
Re: CSAIDS http://theothersideofaids.com/
Not to mention that in remote african villages there is no diagnostic equipment for any kind of testing what so ever let alone AIDS. Yet, they are diagnosing or misdiagnosing by the millions. Kaposis Sarcoma..relatively new to westerners via the appearance of AIDS but in Africa this is a common cancer and is not AIDS related per se. However, western medicine has made it one of the diagnostic criteria. As a third world nation they have long standing ecological and economic crisis. Famine, due to lack of adequate rainfall affects crop production. Clean water due to inferior or non existent infra structures. The list is endless but the symptoms are being used imho to commensurate even greater genocide by the introduction of AZT and other such drugs. If you think about the overall condition of these people, malnourishment, parasites, tribal wars, genocide committed by their own governments by the suppression of food, basic medicine, the black market, etc. they will never withstand western medicines assault. Once upon a time it was called ethnic cleansing. They are dying of something for sure but it is most probably not AIDS. My younger brother died of AIDS, so over the years I've become familiar with the issues. Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote:See http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/data/tbmbeki.htm http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/data/tbafrica.htm http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/data/jsafrica.htm These are very enlightening about AIDs and Africa. Marshall Barbara wrote: Jim, what are people in Africa dying from by the thousands?I see the horrifying pictures on the news and it is called AIDS. All those patients look alike, skin and bones, hollow eyes. They did not receive AZT, it is too expensive for them.This is a genuine question, I really want to know. Barbara AIDS is created by lumping together symptoms of several diseases, and naming it. One criteria is the number of a type of white cell in the blood. Canada does not use that standard, so you can be diagnosed with AIDS in the US, and move to Canada and---as if by magic---, you no longer have the condition. Jim Carol Ann ___ The Pessimist complains about the Wind; The Optimist expects it to change; The Realist adjusts the Sails. - The world needs more sailors. - Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less
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Blank This is a letter we received today from my cousin Sister Rita Maria Tofflemire, who is a Nurse, Administrator of a small hospital in Africa. I sent her several boxes of Colloidal silver and other stuff to her last year, and finally a generator and power converter to make her own Colloidal Silver over there, ,and in return she has taught many priest's and Nun's in Africa and in Florida, Missouri, and elsewhere, how to make CS. You can see she is kind of cautious in the letter below, but in person she is so excited. I met her and her three sisters for the first time this summer at the Tofflemire family reunion in Branson, MO. We spent 3 or 4 days together and she is a Saint. Her sisters are all nurses in the usa, and her Dad and Grandfather were Veterinarians. in Iowa, and Missouri. God can use us all no mater how inadequate we may think we are, even me, Tel Tofflemire. Dewey, AZ. Dear Tel and Mary, Hello to the both of you! I hope you are both well. I am fine, slowly getting back into the pace of life here in Nyangao Africa. I am writing to again give you another PRAISE ACCOUNT of the colloidal silver. Before I left I had taught one of the young sisters how to make the CS. At first she had some doubts about it and even how it would affect the people. The nurse who is HIV positive, that I gave the first batch to way back in Nov. 2004, has not had a single sick day at work since Dec 2004. Right before I left we gave the medicine to a priest who tested positive and I saw him the other day - Praise God he has put on much weight, skin smooth and says that getting CS has been a turning factor in his health. By word of mouth too many people are starting to ask. I explain to them clearly that it is not a cure but hopefully a help. With the testing of people's C4 and C8 we will be able to tell if it goes to a larger number that it could be the combination of the retroviral drugs and the CS. The nurse she does not take anything only the CS. She says that is enough for her. As a result we continue to make CS and give it to those who ask for it. I remember in the beginning when you said that you felt God was drawing us into a type of ministry together. I truly believe that is true. Even myself I don't take it regularly but in the past had a lot of trouble with malaria and haven't had malaria for two years. I wish you a nice Wednesday! Love to the both of you, your cousin , Sister Rita TofflemireBlank Bkgrd.gif
Re: CSAIDS and Some of the Real Truth
FWIW, my BIL said he knew the night that he was infected with hiv- in 1986. He was a fast-lane gay guy, fitting the profile that Duesburg sketches; he began taking AZT right away, and died in 1990. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSnebulizers using CS
hi, is omron the best brand for ultrasonic nebulizers? if so what is the best model to get. a friend told me this model neuv22v but lowest i found was around $200. is there other brands that are just as good? thanks in advance for the help chad
Re: CSCANSEMA Salve -- suppliers
From: panamp...@aol.com I am also curious about the way Cansema works. Is it true that it only effects cancerous skin? !My nose is now pitted, like a bad case of acne. Pete Pete- I have had black salve eat into other tissue as well. It can leave some scar tissue behind. Fortunately mine is in a crease on my face. The directions suggest putting vaseline on the healthy skin to prevent the salve attacking it. You could try applying herbal stuff to minimize scarring, like aloe vera and Vitamin E. Nancy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSnebulizers using CS
I got a barely used nebulizer on a yahoo group that is pretty much in each state, it is called freecycle just search on the yahoo groupsoh and it was free...deb Chad bra...@centercable.tv wrote: hi, is omron the best brand for ultrasonic nebulizers? if so what is the best model to get. a friend told me this model neuv22v but lowest i found was around $200. is there other brands that are just as good? thanks in advance for the help chad
CSRe: CSHeberden's nodesRe: CSCMO
Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 11:42:26 -0700 From: Marshalee Hallett utahpug...@izikoo.com I got the Bouchard's nodes first, now also have Heberden's nodes. Applying DMSO and CS ( around 2 parts DMSO to 8 parts CS) to my fingers has helped a lot. It has taken a while, say over a year, but the Bouchard's nodes are quite noticeably reduced in size. sol -- Sol- I started getting Hebreden's nodes around 7 years ago on a couple of fingers, and read a library book (don't remember the name) on natural cures for arthritis that recommended taking B6, and pantothenic acid, and I think maybe also niacin or niacinamide for them. I haven't taken the niacin much but have taken 50-100 mg of the other 2 per day for the last 7 years and have had no increase in the size of the nodes. Basically my index finger just has a slightly bumpy end joint. Nancy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS misting
could somone post the info about the change in 1970 that is really interestingdeb M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote: M. G. Devour wrote: Sol, when you get a chance, please ask your friend if she's had any silver fillings from the dentist. If so, were any put in since 1970? Marshall asks: What changed in 1970? From what I've been reading on Dr. Huggins' site, about 1970 they introduced an amalgam formulation containing more copper. It releases many times more free mercury than the older types. Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSAIDS and Some of the Real Truth
Read the book by Foster http://www.hdfoster.com/ The Real Cause of Aids. It is free on his web site Robert __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: CSO3 H2O2 AND BLOODROOT?
It might be worth your time to add bloodroot to the regimen. I have found that bloodroot penetrates the gum and goes deep into the surrounding tissue, provided that you can keep the area covered with the tincture. I will go so far as to say that I believe you can get considerable regeneration of the root canal and nerve in the case of infected root canal work. A cotton ball soaked in bloodroot tincture, and covered with something to protect the surrounding tissue (I have used silicone putty intended for earplug use) may work wonders. I wonder also whether bloodroot tincture might not carry particulate EIS to the site, but this is pure speculation. An additional merit to trying bloodroot, in my opinion, is that this herb seems somehow to mark necrotic and neoplastic tissue such that healing, via the normal immune response, continues for YEARS after application. Those who have used Cancema may be aware of this long-term effect. I think there is nothing remotely similar in the mainstream medical bag, and that the failure of medical colleges to teach extensively about herbal medicine and escharotics is a terrible situation. Andrew Weil's first book has lots about this topic. I first learned of bloodroot from that book. (His second, follow-up book, written after he became a health guru, may have been the beginning a selling-out. Seemed so to me.) JBB On Wednesday, Dec 28, 2005, at 01:26 Asia/Tokyo, Marshall Dudley wrote: I have twice had to take antibiotics because of a tooth infection that I waited too long to treat with alternative therapies. During antibiotic use, I discontinued ingesting CS so as to not counteract the antibiotics. Why would they counteract each other? I happen to have an infected tooth root right now, and am taking EIS, penecillian, olive leaf extract and magnetic pulsing it. After 3 days it is only slightly sensitive now. I definitely will continue the EIS to prevent a yeast flare-up, which I get if I take an antibiotic withoug the EIS. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSO3 H2O2 AND BLOODROOT?
A cotton ball soaked in bloodroot tincture, and covered with something to protect the surrounding tissue Hi Jonathan, Why would the surrounding tissue need protection from Bloodroot. Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote: It might be worth your time to add bloodroot to the regimen. I have found that bloodroot penetrates the gum and goes deep into the surrounding tissue, provided that you can keep the area covered with the tincture. I will go so far as to say that I believe you can get considerable regeneration of the root canal and nerve in the case of infected root canal work. A cotton ball soaked in bloodroot tincture, and covered with something to protect the surrounding tissue (I have used silicone putty intended for earplug use) may work wonders. I wonder also whether bloodroot tincture might not carry particulate EIS to the site, but this is pure speculation. A cotton ball soaked in bloodroot tincture, and covered with something to protect the surrounding tissue Carol Ann ___ The Pessimist complains about the Wind; The Optimist expects it to change; The Realist adjusts the Sails. - The world needs more sailors. - Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping
Re: CSAIDS http://theothersideofaids.com/
I can tell you this: many Japanese hemophiliacs, including many who have died from AIDS, were infected with HIV by using unheated blood products imported from the USA. At the time, heated products were available, but unsold unheated products were imported and sold for reasons of profit. Those who used heated products were not infected with HIV and did not develop AIDS. This is well-documented and has been a topic in mainstream news in Japan for many, many years. There was even a lengthy trial of an elderly MD who was clearly responsible for the disaster but was never convicted; he became senile and died first. Bottom line: an identifiable group of persons was infected with HIV from unheated blood products; those who used heated products were not infected. Heating killed the infectious agent, which is almost certainly HIV. I have no reason to doubt the existence of HIV or the claim that it is the primary cause of AIDS. As for Dr. Gallo, I read recently that he himself is suffering from cancer, alas. On Wednesday, Dec 28, 2005, at 05:20 Asia/Tokyo, Jim Holmes wrote: If anyone can find a paper demonstrating either the successful isolation of or culturing of the virus, please send to me the information on how to get a copy. I know a PhD microbiologist who has been searching for such a paper for several years. A friend of his directly asked Robert Gallo (Received credit for creating the first test for the condition) for the paper, and Gallo turned white, said nothing, and turned and walked rapidly away. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS: H2O2 help for this person?
From the book The Cure for All Diseases on page 369 Epstein Barre Virus(EBV) is a mysterious disease because in spit of building up antibodies, it attacks repeatedly. I only see EBV if the person also has Eurytrema (pancreatic Fluke) in the pancreas. When the fluke is gone, I no longer find EBV in the white blood cells. This suggests that the virus come from the fluke. As each fluke dies and is finally removed, the body's white blood cells can catch up with the viruses and you begin to feel better again, which can be as quick as one day. Burt reinfection with an EBV-carrying Euytrema (plus a wood alcohol containing beverage to allow the fluke to go to the pancreas) can spark the next recurrence. Robert - Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping
Re: CSAIDS and Some of the Real Truth
If you have any evidence to support this statement, I would be very glad to read it. Because I teach young people in Japanese universities, I try to keep very well informed about AIDS in Japan, and am in touch with several first-rate, hard-working activists in Tokyo.I have lectured once or twice to my students about AIDS (usually on World AIDS Day), and try to keep them informed about the risks of casual sex. I know of no evidence whatsoever to support this shocking statement. I think it is very dangerous misinformation. Young people who have many Sekkusu Tomo (sex friends), and who don't use condoms (sales are plummeting even as the AIDS rate rises) are clearly the ones at risk for AIDS and related diseases, which include several new and nasty types of hepatitis. Again, please provide any information you may find to support this disturbing statement. On Wednesday, Dec 28, 2005, at 07:29 Asia/Tokyo, Wayne Fugitt wrote: In same parts of Japan or China, ( maybe both ) 85 % of the people have AIDS. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSO3 H2O2 AND BLOODROOT?
Bloodroot tincture is very hard on surrounding tissue; it is caustic. The mucous membranes inside the mouth will be very, very painful if you don't protect them properly. As with everything on this list, use your own good judgment, consult a medical professional, and be responsible for your actions; none of us is qualified to give medical advice, and I am merely relaying my own experiences. On Wednesday, Dec 28, 2005, at 12:43 Asia/Tokyo, Carol Ann wrote: A cotton ball soaked in bloodroot tincture, and covered with something to protect the surrounding tissue Hi Jonathan, Why would the surrounding tissue need protection from Bloodroot. Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote: It might be worth your time to add bloodroot to the regimen. I have found that bloodroot penetrates the gum and goes deep into the surrounding tissue, provided that you can keep the area covered with the tincture. I will go so far as to say that I believe you can get considerable regeneration of the root canal and nerve in the case of infected root canal work. A cotton ball soaked in bloodroot tincture, and covered with something to protect the surrounding tissue (I have used silicone putty intended f! or earplug use) may work wonders. I wonder also whether bloodroot tincture might not carry particulate EIS to the site, but this is pure speculation. A cotton ball soaked in bloodroot tincture, and covered with something to protect the surrounding tissue Carol Ann ___ The Pessimist complains about the Wind; The Optimist expects it to change; The Realist adjusts the Sails. - The world needs more sailors. image.tiff Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSO3 H2O2 AND BLOODROOT?
Thanks, that's good to know and keep in mind. I'm working on a similar problem myself and put together a potion which includes Bloodroot. Powders of Myrhh in a fine poultice; Licorice, Goldenseal, White Oak Bark and Bayberry Root Bark. Extracts, not tinctures of Bloodroot (45-56% alcohol); Echanechia (no alcohol) Alternately 1 drop of Ti Tree or Lavender Essential Oil used every other application whetted with CS and a drop or two of DMSO mixed until a paste like consistency is attained. I use half a cotton ball elongated. . I find that Tinctures perhaps due to their higher alcohol content seem to be harsher on compromised tissue. Carol Ann Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote: Bloodroot tincture is very hard on surrounding tissue; it is caustic. The mucous membranes inside the mouth will be very, very painful if you don't protect them properly. As with everything on this list, use your own good judgment, consult a medical professional, and be responsible for your actions; none of us is qualified to give medical advice, and I am merely relaying my own experiences. On Wednesday, Dec 28, 2005, at 12:43 Asia/Tokyo, Carol Ann wrote: A cotton ball soaked in bloodroot tincture, and covered with something to protect the surrounding tissue Hi Jonathan, Why would the surrounding tissue need protection from Bloodroot. Jonathan B. Britten wrote: It might be worth your time to add bloodroot to the regimen. I have found that bloodroot penetrates the gum and goes deep into the surrounding tissue, provided that you can keep the area covered with the tincture. I will go so far as to say that I believe you can get considerable regeneration of the root canal and nerve in the case of infected root canal work. A cotton ball soaked in bloodroot tincture, and covered with something to protect the surrounding tissue (I have used silicone putty intended f! or earplug use) may work wonders. I wonder also whether bloodroot tincture might not carry particulate EIS to the site, but this is pure speculation. A cotton ball soaked in bloodroot tincture, and covered with something to protect the surrounding tissue Carol Ann ___ The Pessimist complains about the Wind; The Optimist expects it to change; The Realist adjusts the Sails. - The world needs more sailors. Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour Carol Ann ___ The Pessimist complains about the Wind; The Optimist expects it to change; The Realist adjusts the Sails. - The world needs more sailors. - Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less
Re: CSCS misting
thanks Mike I hope you keep working on getting those out of your mouth...deb M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote: Deborah, It's mentioned a couple of times on drhuggins.com, but he talks about it more in some of the materials you can order from their store. Re-reading what's on the site, it seems that the new formulation was introduced about 1976... just in time for me to get my first filling! Yay! Be well, Mike D. could somone post the info about the change in 1970 that is really interestingdeb M. G. Devour wrote: M. G. Devour wrote: Sol, when you get a chance, please ask your friend if she's had any silver fillings from the dentist. If so, were any put in since 1970? Marshall asks: What changed in 1970? From what I've been reading on Dr. Huggins' site, about 1970 they introduced an amalgam formulation containing more copper. It releases many times more free mercury than the older types. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CSCS: H2O2 help for this person?
My impression was that, while not actually recommending it be used orally, he actually always used it orally for people who were experiencing oral thrush and other indications of yeast infection or overgrowth of this sort (even people receiving IV H2O2). He indicates that some doctors feel that there were some potential problems with using it orally, but others were very positive about it and recommend it. Some cautions were to always use it on an empty stomach and never close to a fatty meal. He gives some examples of people using it at very high levels and only having positive effects. In one spot he mentions that it was 3000 times more effective against bacteria with some copper added. While I would not use copper, I wonder if adding some Colloidal Silver to the high dose oral peroxide wouldn't be the same thing? If I was doing this I might try diluting it by adding the drops to CS rather than distilled water and drink immediately. It is up to the person to decide whether to try something like this. There seem to be risks of side effects from almost any medication, even the risk that they won't be effective and leave you suffering from the ravages of the disease! Dan Subject: CSCS: H2O2 help for this person? From: Harold MacDonald har...@telus.net Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 14:32:55 -0800 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Any safe regimen for this needy person? http://www.h2o2medicalmiracle.com/H2o2MedicalMiracle.pdf HAROLD? Hydrogen peroxide cure From: Spriggy Date: 12/27/2005 Time: 12:18:36 AM Remote Name: 63.226.214.205 Comments I read through the entire article and found it fascinating. I have Chronic Epstien Barr (my titers are always WAAAY high) and also have Fibromyalgia. they both started at the same time; along with severe depression and anxiety. I got an infection a year ago- ran fever, had a high white count, went on antibiotics and have been living a nightmare since. I have vaginal yeast infections and oral thrush off and on. Anyway, I have no access to IV hydrogen peroxide therapy ($$ and finding a dr.) but wondered about doing it orally. I read the pros/cons in the article but wondered what it would hurt if I just *tried* it in small amounts? Does anyone think it could help me? I am desperate.. Thanks Harold for posting that. It was very informative. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.8/215 - Release Date: 12/27/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSO3 H2O2 AND BLOODROOT?
I don't quite get it. Just where would you apply it? Dan Subject: Re: CSO3 H2O2 AND BLOODROOT? From:Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp Date:Wed, 28 Dec 2005 13:08:04 +0900 To:silver-list@eskimo.com Bloodroot tincture is very hard on surrounding tissue; it is caustic. The mucous membranes inside the mouth will be very, very painful if you don't protect them properly. As with everything on this list, use your own good judgment, consult a medical professional, and be responsible for your actions; none of us is qualified to give medical advice, and I am merely relaying my own experiences. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.8/215 - Release Date: 12/27/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSO3 H2O2 AND BLOODROOT?
One can soak a small piece of cotton in tincture and place the cotton directly above the infected tooth, on the surface of the gum, while keep the outside surface of the cotton from touching other tissue in the mouth, by covering the cotton with plastic or whatever works.In case of severe infection, there may be a large cavity resulting above the tooth. Dental infections, like any infection above the neck, can be extremely dangerous, and professional medical supervision is always advised. On Wednesday, Dec 28, 2005, at 14:19 Asia/Tokyo, Dan Nave wrote: I don't quite get it. Just where would you apply it? Dan Subject: Re: CSO3 H2O2 AND BLOODROOT? From:Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp Date:Wed, 28 Dec 2005 13:08:04 +0900 To:silver-list@eskimo.com Bloodroot tincture is very hard on surrounding tissue; it is caustic. The mucous membranes inside the mouth will be very, very painful if you don't protect them properly. As with everything on this list, use your own good judgment, consult a medical professional, and be responsible for your actions; none of us is qualified to give medical advice, and I am merely relaying my own experiences. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.8/215 - Release Date: 12/27/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNiacin
Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 17:32:07 -0800 (PST) From: Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com Well, I finally decided to start niacin since my cholesterol and triglicerides are a bit high. Found 100 mg pills ...there were 250 and 500mg at the other two stores. I took one and after just a few minutes I was really surprised. I never had heard of the extreme -ness of the reaction, I just thought one would blush. I started feeling hot prickly fire from shoulders up. Eventually it went down my arms and on my legs. I was bright red like a sunburn. After the heat and burning ebbed, it was still prickly and itchy. How long does it take before it doesn't react so severly? --- Pat- I read an interesting book about allergies, sorry can't remember the title, that used Niacin to detect allergies. From what I can remember I think the allergens cause the release of histamines, and the niacin reacts with the histamines. I managed to cut out allergens enough to be able to take it for a while with no reaction then started reacting when I ate walnuts and didn't want to give them up so I stopped taking Niacin. Anyway, it can be a useful way to detect food allergies. Another way to determine food allergies is to eat one food after arising, take one's pulse before eating and after 1/2 hour, sitting until pulse is stable. If the pulse rate increases by a significant amount, say 10 beats per minute, it indicates allergy. That could help in eliminating allergens to decrease the niacin reaction. Nancy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCayenne Method
Tel, do you take some of both the 90,000 HU and the 184,000 HU cayenne pepper at the same time as capsules and powder? Dennis I have the same experience, I use niacin 6,000 mg per day and 6,000 mg of Cayenne pepper 90,000 HU (heating units) each. Also I use 1,000 mg of Ginkgo Bilobo per day all the dose are split in 1/2 am and pm . I would suggest working up to this amount, and the no flush niacin is less irritating, but I take the normal flush kind and like it...It works for me. I am in my 8th year doing this , with great results. Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. Tel Tofflemire wrote: I use 500 mg capsules for both, 3 each twice per day = 6,000 mg. I just took my am dose , right now I feel a slight flush, but for me it is not too noticeable. I like to eat a cracker with kefir cheese (I make daily myself) to put something in my belly before I take these pills. I did take one teaspoon of African Bird cayenne pepper 184,000 HU in a big glass of water, but its kind of hard when I travel so I still have a lb of African Bird left and I only use it in herbs tea, or capsules. Its no fun at first but you can get used to it. Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. - Original Message - From: Wayne Fugitt mailto:cwfug...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 7:00 AM Subject: CSCayenne Method Morning Tel, It takes continued use, same time, every day or close to it and before long you can increase your mg's...I am up to 6,000 split am PM...Plus that much Cayenne Pepper each am Pm. No doubt you have figured out the best way to ingest the Cayenne pepper without having to look for the fire extinguisher. If you don't mind, please share any methods you have tried and the one you like best. Wayne
Re: CSre: lung infection questions
This sounds like something that happened in California a few years ago. I remember the Dr's name was Julie Gorchynski because she is related to someone I work with. Check out this article, it does mention DMSO. Medical/toxic lady faq http://tafkac.org/medical/toxic_lady_faq.html Dennis. Jim Holmes wrote: A similar actual incident occurred several years ago. No one died, but one nurse of severely injured. The substance emanated from a patient's body. At that time, nothing was knows about the cause of the effect. -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 5:29 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSre: lung infection questions On Life in the ER a few nights ago, there was this lady that came in exuding a potent smell that nearly killed everyone in the ER. Turned out to be a third or forth metabolite byproduct of DMSO. According to that story, the normal metabolite of DMSO is harmless DMSO2, but when coupled with oxygen therapy it makes DMSO3 or DMSO4, a deadly nerve agent. She died. Everyone else got really sick for days. True? I dunno. It is, after all, a TV show. Ode she is currently using her neb twice a day...any suggestions thank you again for past interest and helpchuckl Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/photos/*http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ ph//page?.file=calendar_splash.html.dir=. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.5/212 - Release Date: 12/23/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCANSEMA Salve -- suppliers
I've read this many times, to apply vaseline to the surrounding areas. I am so uncomfortable with putting a petroleum product on my skin! I used a beeswax based cream. -Raine Tad Winiecki wrote: Pete- I have had black salve eat into other tissue as well. It can leave some scar tissue behind. Fortunately mine is in a crease on my face. The directions suggest putting vaseline on the healthy skin to prevent the salve attacking it. Swap Your Paperback Books - PaperBackSwap.com http://www.paperbackswap.com/index.php?n=1r_by=rainelu...@yahoo.com
