Re: CSinsomnia
I read on Mercola that you have to be careful with supplementing D because you can overdose, which would be toxic, as is most things. Dee ---Original Message--- From: faith gagne Date: 24/10/2007 17:45:14 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSinsomnia - Original Message - From: Shirley Reed To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 12:07 PM Subject: CSinsomnia Herbs can be really good, but the first night after taking a single capsule with 50,000 iu of Vitamin D I slept like the proverbial baby. This has continued for a year or so. I have also taken several of those capsules Similar to Stoss therapy. Those capsules can be ordered from the www vitamindcouncil.com site from a place in Arkansas.pj
CSOprah Raises Awareness on Thyroid Issue
Has some interesting info for all of us with thyroid issues. Paula http://www.newstarget.com/022155.html
Re: CSre insomnia
On 10/24/2007, faith gagne (jitte...@gis.net) wrote: I made a makeshift sauna in my laundry room using 4 250 watt and 2 100 watt Infrared Ceramic heat emitters- http://www.petdiscounters.com/c14/c8/Lamps-Bulbs-c176.html I haven't been waking up after only 5-7 hours of sleep and lying awake since we started using the FIR as a sauna, even though it doesn't get as hot as a regular sauna. These are actually very interesting, and I've been considering making one for myself - and thanks for the link, looks like a good source - BUT... This is NOT a FIR sauna, this is an IR sauna... similar, but still significantly different. And you can increase the temp by increasing the number and/or wattage of the bulbs... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSOverdose, How much is enough ?
Morning Dee, At 03:04 AM 10/25/2007, you wrote: I read on Mercola that you have to be careful with supplementing D because you can overdose, which would be toxic, as is most things. Dee No Doubt ! One can overdose on many things. I have eaten, 1/2 Gallon of Ice Cream One whole Pecan Pie Very Large Steak, ( Over 32 Ounces ) My favorite thing to overdose on is Watermelon. I have eaten a while watermelon at one sitting. So, just like the Vitamin D, How much is an Overdose ? None of the items and quantities above were an overdose ? Many of the terms we use are much like, High and Low Up and Down Fast and Slow, And can only be defined with Fuzzy Logic. Fuzzy Logic is not a state of Mind.grin Trivia, . the most concentrated source of Vitamin D is Cobra Liver! Had any of that lately ? Wayne ===
Re: CSre insomnia- homemade sauna
On 10/24/2007, Clayton Family (clay...@skypoint.com) wrote: May I ask where you got the chairs? I bought some IR lights etc, with the idea of making a sauna, but did not get past finding the wood. Mostly we have plywood, or planks 12 inches wide, which I thought were not wide enough for 3 or 4 lights, each is 4 wide I think. I do not tolerate the glues in plywood, and may be sensitive to other terpenes in wood as well, esp if it is heated. I am thinking it would not get very hot with infra red lights, though. One guy who was doing some major experimenting on another list found an easy solution for many people... set it up in a small bathroom or closet - you don't need to build anything other than something to hold the bulbs... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMMS-related topics, PART 4 (of 6)
## Virtually any of the trace metals can be quite toxic. However, the body has regulation mechanisms that normally work quite well. Caution should probably be used when making and taking colloidal and ionic forms. Breathing zinc vapors can be very poisonous and is warned against to welders working with galvanized steel. Silver isn't a biological trace metal. No biological niche to overload and the same system eliminates it. Selenium, another trace metal, is key...and also very very toxic if you get too much. ode Getting back to the Na before the ClO2 in Inner Light's IONIC supplement: one letter difference in a chemical formula can make the difference between a compound that is poisonous or healing. For instance, zinc is listed as a heavy metal. Yet people who take mineral supplements know that zinc helps prevent colds and is a much needed mineral by the body -- so how can it be poisonous? The answer lies in the FORM in which zinc is found. Similarly, some minerals in their ionic form are assimilable by the body and therefore healing, whereas in their non-ionic form they are not. Sincerely, NENAH No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.10/1091 - Release Date: 10/24/2007 2:31 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.10/1091 - Release Date: 10/24/2007 2:31 PM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Vit C for sunscreen... WAS: Re: CSinsomnia
On 10/25/2007, Dee (d...@deetroy.org) wrote: I read on Mercola that you have to be careful with supplementing D because you can overdose, which would be toxic, as is most things. And supposedly it is difficult to recover from overdosing on D... Safest is to get it from the sun - if you can sunbath for at least 30 minutes a day - when the sun is highest in the sky - no sunscreen - you won't have to worry about it unless you live in the north... Also - an interesting little tidbit for those who burn easily... Pure ascorbic acid powder, mixed in water in a spray bottle - spray it liberally on your skin - will prevent burning (it works better than any sunscreen you ever used), but will not prevent a natural tan, though it may take a little longer... spray it on when you first go out, then every 5 or 10 minutes if you can. A teaspoon or two in a small spray bottle is all you need... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CShepatitis c
It works for some and not for others. It takes a LOT of it, so make your own.. One person wrote to say he'd cured himself of a 15 year old case of Hep C He sipped a pint a day @ 12 PPM, all day, for 6 months. Tried on a friend, didn't do a thing for her Hep Cbut HIV counts went to zero. Ode At 05:20 PM 10/23/2007 -0700, you wrote: Hi all, I am looking for some info on CS and possibility of curing hepatitis c infection. Does anyone have any info on this. take care - Jessica __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com I wrap myself in a badge of honor, a shield of modesty, a uniform of a mu'meen, a flag of Islam. I wrap myself in love, because love for Allah is why I wrap.. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.10/1091 - Release Date: 10/24/2007 2:31 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.10/1091 - Release Date: 10/24/2007 2:31 PM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSre insomnia- homemade sauna
Kathyrn- I got the chairs at IKEA. They just opened one near me this year. I suppose you can order from them as well but would have to pay shipping, if they don't have a store near you? I could try to look for the name of the chairs if you want. They are just $15 each. The ones I got have a light color, but the wood looks bare, I'm not sure if it has some varnish or something or not. Nancy On Oct 24, 2007, at 4:59 PM, Clayton Family wrote: Nancy, May I ask where you got the chairs? I bought some IR lights etc, with the idea of making a sauna, but did not get past finding the wood. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS tryptophan repost from june'06
L Tryptophan was temporarily banned because a huge Japanese company tried a new cheaper process of making it and it turned up being toxic, resulting in a few deaths. They had flooded the market with no way to trace what Tryptofan was in what bottle, so it was ALL recalled and banned from sale till it was all made safe again. The Alt Health industry is almost as big a business as the Pharm, but with fewer regulations and less accountability. When the Pharm screws up, they get sued big time. Too big to hide, big enough to make a hard fight. When alt health screws up, most just fade out of sight. Many too fragmented to be found, some big enough to take on a fight. Both operate with huge profit margins. EVERYONE screws up, now and then. Ode At 01:30 PM 10/24/2007 -0700, you wrote: for those who may be interested. --- Jonathan B. Britten wrote: List, Many members know about big Pharm fraud, but few examples are as compelling at the L-Tryptophan scam, which I recall very, very well. BROJON, although being rather uneven in my opinion, has a great piece which I am pasting below. THE INSIDER'S STORY OF AN L-TRYPTOPHAN RESEARCHER A Response To Reader's Requests I have received a number of letters to the editor asking about which L-tryptophan is the best and where to buy it. Many readers want to start using it each morning to maintain their circadian rhythms. For almost 20 years it has been impossible to purchase L-tryptophan. So where did I buy my tryptophan for my research for the last 20 years? During the 1980's when I started my circadian rhythm experiments, I used the common L-tryptophan found in stores. I soon found there were two types --one with B6 and one without any B6. I tried several brands of each and found that the ones with B6 did not work at all in my experiments for shifting or controlling the circadian rhythms. Thus proving that B6 prevents tryptophan from getting into the brain. Using B6 will definitely disrupt your normal circadian rhythms. I later found that almost all the L-tryptophan in all brands was made from the same bulk raw product from Japan. The Showa Denko company had developed a method of using genetically modified bacteria to extract copious amounts of L-tryptophan from milk. Since the bacteria was removed and reused, what remained was pure, cheap L-tryptophan. It is now the same method used for making all the other amino acid products. In November 1989, the CDC made the false claim that L-tryptophan was causing a new disease or disorder called Eosinophilia Myagia Syndrome (EMS). The symptoms of EMS were exactly the same as trichinosis. Trichinosis is a parasite which comes from eating improperly cooked pork. My research found that about half of all American's have contracted the trichinosis parasite. But for most people it is sub-clinical, meaning most people don't even know that they have trichinosis. This sub-clinical form of the disease is the primary reason for most autoimmune disorders such as fibromyagia and chronic fatique syndrome. The body immune system attacks itself in an attempt to get rid of the parasite. The disease is caused by microscopic worms embedding by the millions into your muscles. Then they form a tiny impenetrable cyst which protects them from medication and from your own immune system. No effective medication has been found for ridding the body of trichinosis. For most people the original symptoms were a slight fever like the flu, and achy muscles as the trichinella enter the muscles and become encysted. It takes about a week and later those early symptoms go away and are forgotten. Those were exactly the same symptoms which were identified as EMS by the CDC. In the first week after the CDC alert for EMS, the doctors before reporting EMS needed to perform a trichinosis test. In the second week after the CDC alert, the trichinosis test requirement was strangely dropped, so all the usual hundreds of thousands of cases of trichinosis were then falsely reported to the CDC as the new tryptophan disorder, EMS. The CDC also changed the reporting requirement to include: observe the symptoms and also, secondly interview the patient for having previously or still using L-tryptophan. Thus, suddenly this became an L-tryptophan disease. But it wasn't at all. It was just the common trichinosis. I was using L-tryptophan in my research studies but I never had any symptoms. Something was very wrong with the CDC story about EMS and the ban on sales of L-tryptophan. I suspected then that this was a fraudulent story and I have kept in my files, several years worth of all the CDC reports and university research reports into the suspected causes for EMS. The CDC even blamed Showa Denko for making a contaminated product and forced them out of business. But
CSFw: CS:re L-tryptophan,USP
- Original Message - From: Harold MacDonald har...@telus.net To: Silver Post silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 7:53 AM Subject: CS:re L-tryptophan,USP I have been using L-T from BIOS Biochemicals Corp for some time now.I get it as a powder and fill my own caps. The ingredient list is L -Tryptophan only. No fillers or flow agents are used www.biochemicals.com Harold -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS tryptophan repost from june'06
Ode Coyote wrote: L Tryptophan was temporarily banned because a huge Japanese company tried a new cheaper process of making it and it turned up being toxic, resulting in a few deaths. They had flooded the market with no way to trace what Tryptofan was in what bottle, so it was ALL recalled and banned from sale till it was all made safe again. How would they not know what was in each bottle? That is like one dairy getting some poison in their milk, and them outlawing all milk from all dairies for almost 20 years. Makes no sense. Companies who are packaging and shipping a product know where they bought it from. They track every ingredient, and if they bought some from a specific company, they can use the date code or product code they stamp on each bottle to figure out where every single ingredient in that bottle came from. That is the way it is done. When I made colloidal silver, I recorded the date code of every bottle of distilled water that went into a batch. So if they announced that one of the bottles had toxic chemicals in it, I could easily recall those bottles of CS made with it. This is industry wide practice, and a legal requirement for ISO 9000 products. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsilver production: ionic vs. colloidal
Hi, Mike! I was remembering when I first started out, reading online directions. I had the 3 batteries and some wire. The solution was ok, but there were quite alot of particles for my throat ( admittedly, my throat can be very twitchy). It did not sit as well as the sovereign silver I bought. So I went back online and read about a potentiometer, got one at the local surplus store, hooked it up, and I was much happier. I did read where some people did drink a more coarse solution, grey floaters and all, and they did not turn grey. However, it did not seem right to me. Then I found you guys, and got much happier with all the good advice! Getting a com 100 meter was a good idea. I like being able to test things, and the distilled water around here can be really variable. After I got that, I bought all the different kinds of distilled water I could get my hands on, and only found one brand that had less than 2uS all the time. I guess it is because most of the water is from wells, and it is very hard to start with. Some of it tested up around 25ppm! Not nearly good enough for our purposes. So, yes, I am happy with what I am making now, thank you for checking. It is clear, usually very little tyndall, and between 8-13 uS. Kathryn On Oct 24, 2007, at 12:02 PM, M. G. Devour wrote: Dear Kathryn, Another thought that came to me at the time, that people make it grey and sludgy and drink it that way on purpose, but I had a hard time with the particles, one of the reasons I try so hard to make a nice clear solution. Right! We DO NOT want to make sludge and drink it! EIS or CS or whatever you want to call it, the stuff we advocate is clear, usually colorless, 5 to 15 ppm, and with pure silver in distilled water. Period. I hope you've been successful with upgrading your technique! grin Be well, Mike D. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMold, Fungus, Temp and Humidity
Good Morning Wayne, I agree with your reasoning. see below: On Oct 24, 2007, at 9:05 PM, Wayne Fugitt wrote: Thank You Kathryn, At 12:40 PM 10/24/2007, you wrote: The barometer and temp can change rapidly in less than a day, and can go from less than 30% humidity to raining in hours, as a system sweeps through. Yes, the same is true in my area, only 200 miles from the coast. As soon as the weather got cold, and the humidity went down, I could tell a difference. Yes, I have gotten to enjoy it once everything is frozen solid- the mold in this region becomes inactive, and I have an easier time of it. I have often thought that if I found a spot on a hill, with good air, and a house that was ok, I would be much healthier. This area had some old silos, and when those were knocked down, I (and many other people in the neighborhood) got all this. There was some issue with the drywall in the house, but the silos going down did me in. Sinuses and guts. Why the docs at that time did not consider farmer's lung, I don't know. The man behind me died from the mold in his lungs not long after that work was done. Once they built the apts and sodded the ground, it was much better. However, the whole neighborhood got dosed with some intense fungi at that time, and it continues to bother me, thought not as much as before. I have hesitated to use any heat, but now that is has been raining for 3 days and night, I need some heat to lower the humidity. We have a basement here, as do nearly all of the houses. Lowering the humidity is a big concern, esp in the summer, when the humidity is very high most of the time, and we can't turn on the heat. We do run a dehumidifier at times ($$), but having a little ventilation in the basement has helped a great deal. I got the windows to open (a chore), and my husband put together a fan to fit in one of the opening, drawing air out. Also running a fan down there helps. Maybe we should get central air. Of course, you probably know all this already. I had this mucous tested and the report was, Heavy production of friendly flora. Darn... I knew that, or thought that. But still doubt all the tests. I also took the test results with a grain of salt. Friendly flora can get out of balance and become more like friendly fire. If it is only that. My allergist that gave me the diagnosis said he does not rely on tests for sinus infections, as they are too unreliable. He finds his patients do much better just being treated with diflucan (which he says has the lowest incidence of liver problems, less than 1%, and is an old fashioned magic bullet for fungi). I am not recommending you do this, just telling you for your own information. The MMS will zap the mucous in short order. I could tell a difference 4 hours after the first dose of 4 drops. In 3 days, it was all gone. Now, I wonder if I need the mucous. One of my problems with the anaphylaxis IS the mucous. The sinus starts to run, it drips down the back of my throat, and after some time, the throat starts swelling up. That may be due to the composition of the mucous, possibly having some kinds of toxins in it, from the fungal colony in my sinuses. However, when I use the CS in my nose, it seems to head off the throat swelling. Your case may be different. I think I mentioned, this is a log house with a million cracks in the ceilings and the walls. They are all airtight, but still enough space for all the fungus and mold to exist. Hmm if there is drywall, there may be a primary source for really bad molds, I have even seem them eat through plastic intended as a vapor barrier. It just takes condensation to grow a nasty batch, does not even have to be a direct water leak. Toxic fungi will grow on wood, but it loves drywall. If the house is very old, then it might well be all in the wood. I have decided an Ozone Generator is the only help. I have an aranizer, and the staff were also very helpful. In high enough concentrations, it kills molds and I have even decontaminated spores and toxins with it. To do that took a very high concentration of ozone. Some ozone generators put out other compounds that are damaging to the lungs, but I did not notice a problem with this one, other than I had a detox reaction when I started using it- the ozone was killing stuff in me as I breathed it in. As I am much better now, I no longer have that reaction. I know of one woman who has permanent lung damage from using an ozone air cleaner in her bedroom all the time, not an aranizer. Also, I have heard it can turn rubber to dust after awhile. And cause damage to a houses' structure. Some people really don't like it, but I found it useful as part of my anti mold program. There is always a chance this mold keeps my immune system activated and souped up. When I had toxic mold illness, I did not get sick with anything else, as my immune system was on very
Re: CSMold, Fungus, Temp and Humidity
Hiya Wayne Kathryn, Kathryn said: We have a basement here, as do nearly all of the houses. Lowering the humidity is a big concern, esp in the summer, when the humidity is very high most of the time, and we can't turn on the heat. We do run a dehumidifier at times ($$), but having a little ventilation in the basement has helped a great deal. I got the windows to open (a chore), and my husband put together a fan to fit in one of the opening, drawing air out. Also running a fan down there helps. Maybe we should get central air. Of course, you probably know all this already. I'm in B'ham, AL (lots of humidity) and have an attic fan which helps tremendously with keeping the house aired out. Have to watch about using it during high humidity though. Also have to be sure at least 1 window is open before turning it on or it'll suck the ashes out of the fireplace into the den!! LOL Found that out the hard way! Not sure if log cabins have attics (depends on builder or owner I guess), but I like using it whenever possible instead of using the air conditioner and having everything closed up all the time. Sure helps the slight mustiness of the basement. Ruth B. I had this mucous tested and the report was, Heavy production of friendly flora. Darn... I knew that, or thought that. But still doubt all the tests. I also took the test results with a grain of salt. Friendly flora can get out of balance and become more like friendly fire. If it is only that. My allergist that gave me the diagnosis said he does not rely on tests for sinus infections, as they are too unreliable. He finds his patients do much better just being treated with diflucan (which he says has the lowest incidence of liver problems, less than 1%, and is an old fashioned magic bullet for fungi). I am not recommending you do this, just telling you for your own information. The MMS will zap the mucous in short order. I could tell a difference 4 hours after the first dose of 4 drops. In 3 days, it was all gone. Now, I wonder if I need the mucous. One of my problems with the anaphylaxis IS the mucous. The sinus starts to run, it drips down the back of my throat, and after some time, the throat starts swelling up. That may be due to the composition of the mucous, possibly having some kinds of toxins in it, from the fungal colony in my sinuses. However, when I use the CS in my nose, it seems to head off the throat swelling. Your case may be different. I think I mentioned, this is a log house with a million cracks in the ceilings and the walls. They are all airtight, but still enough space for all the fungus and mold to exist. Hmm if there is drywall, there may be a primary source for really bad molds, I have even seem them eat through plastic intended as a vapor barrier. It just takes condensation to grow a nasty batch, does not even have to be a direct water leak. Toxic fungi will grow on wood, but it loves drywall. If the house is very old, then it might well be all in the wood. I have decided an Ozone Generator is the only help. I have an aranizer, and the staff were also very helpful. In high enough concentrations, it kills molds and I have even decontaminated spores and toxins with it. To do that took a very high concentration of ozone. Some ozone generators put out other compounds that are damaging to the lungs, but I did not notice a problem with this one, other than I had a detox reaction when I started using it- the ozone was killing stuff in me as I breathed it in. As I am much better now, I no longer have that reaction. I know of one woman who has permanent lung damage from using an ozone air cleaner in her bedroom all the time, not an aranizer. Also, I have heard it can turn rubber to dust after awhile. And cause damage to a houses' structure. Some people really don't like it, but I found it useful as part of my anti mold program. There is always a chance this mold keeps my immune system activated and souped up. When I had toxic mold illness, I did not get sick with anything else, as my immune system was on very high alert all the time. I was sick as a dog from the mold, but that was apparently different. After I began recovering my health, I started catching things, and that is the normal progression with that illness, it meant I was recovering. Now with the CS, I am not catching much of anything anymore. I love that! When I go somewhere else for a few days and a night or two, it is much better. That is a good clue. Maybe you could look for a new place to move to. It is easier than remediating. Best Wishes, Kathryn -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are
Re: CSRe: Vitamin C as Sunscreen
Simon, Will you please re-post your message about using vitamin c as sunscreen? I was trying to save it and it disappeared. Thank you. Faity -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMold, Fungus, Temp and Humidity
Those whole house fans seem like a great idea. Our house is older, and doesn't have one. Maybe when we move. On Oct 25, 2007, at 12:30 PM, Ruth Bertella wrote: Hiya Wayne Kathryn, Kathryn said: We have a basement here, as do nearly all of the houses. Lowering the humidity is a big concern, esp in the summer, when the humidity is very high most of the time, and we can't turn on the heat. We do run a dehumidifier at times ($$), but having a little ventilation in the basement has helped a great deal. I got the windows to open (a chore), and my husband put together a fan to fit in one of the opening, drawing air out. Also running a fan down there helps. Maybe we should get central air. Of course, you probably know all this already. I'm in B'ham, AL (lots of humidity) and have an attic fan which helps tremendously with keeping the house aired out. Have to watch about using it during high humidity though. Also have to be sure at least 1 window is open before turning it on or it'll suck the ashes out of the fireplace into the den!! LOL Found that out the hard way! Not sure if log cabins have attics (depends on builder or owner I guess), but I like using it whenever possible instead of using the air conditioner and having everything closed up all the time. Sure helps the slight mustiness of the basement. Ruth B. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: Vitamin C as Sunscreen
Evening Faith, At 12:36 PM 10/25/2007, you wrote: Simon, Will you please re-post your message about using vitamin c as sunscreen? I was trying to save it and it disappeared. You have a ghost on your computer. The ghost killers are harder to find than a virus scanner. All vitamins and minerals are required to make a sunscreen. EFA's help also. There is no SHORTCUT. Can you build a house with one material ? NO ! Can you build healthy skin and healthy oils with ONE material ? NO. Why everyone thinks one bottle of magic Snake Oil will cure anything continues to amaze me. If you had all the other items, adding the one that is missing would certainly appear to work wonders. Only one or two vitamins are used directly AS IS by the body. The purpose of most are to make it possibly to absorb and process minerals. You can take all the vitamins known to the world, and if you do not have the minerals, Guess what will happen ? Do you need a lesson on mail management? Simon is the best, and I am somewhere behind. grin Wayne === -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVitamins Minerals
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Re: CSRe: Vitamin C as Sunscreen
Hi dose vitamin E ( up to 1000 IU) eliminated MY susceptibility to sunburn. Seems a pretty good magic bullet to me... Chuck This tagline is cursed. As you read you will be confuset by ther printeb wertz. Yer intellijenc wil vabni...xrt! xrt! On 10/25/2007 2:59:20 PM, Wayne Fugitt (cwa...@netdoor.com) wrote: Evening Faith, At 12:36 PM 10/25/2007, you wrote: Simon, Will you please re-post your message about using vitamin c as sunscreen? I was trying to save it and it disappeared. You have a ghost on your computer. The ghost killers are harder to find than a virus scanner. All vitamins and minerals are required to make a sunscreen. EFA's help also. There is no SHORTCUT. Can you build a house with one material ? NO ! Can you build healthy skin and healthy oils -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: Vitamin C as Sunscreen
Evening Chuck, At 03:16 PM 10/25/2007, you wrote: Seems a pretty good magic bullet to me... Too Bad it seems that way. Hi dose vitamin E ( up to 1000 IU) eliminated MY susceptibility to sunburn. The more obvious, is that you were not getting enough Vitamin E. You could have told us how much you were taking before. Maybe, 990 IU, or 999 IU ? .. grin Years back, I started an old man on vitamins. He got on the band wagon, in grand style. Soon he was taking 1600 IU per day. Oh... back to your sunburn, maybe by the time you made the change, you skin and adjusted and changed color a bit. I have not sunburned in about 40 years. I was painting a white house in a tee shirt and shorts. Maybe I needed a heap more vitamin E. If you spend enough hours on the water, your face can sunburn even when wearing a large hat. I used to do that also, 10 to 12 hours per day. Wayne = -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS tryptophan repost from june'06
On 10/25/2007, Ode Coyote (odecoy...@alltel.net) wrote: L Tryptophan was temporarily banned because a huge Japanese company tried a new cheaper process of making it and it turned up being toxic, resulting in a few deaths. They had flooded the market 'Flooded the market'? They were selling a product... lets not make it into something it wasn't... Now, if you want to talk about how pharmaceutical companies - with the help and blessings of the FDA - are 'flooding the market' with dangerous and COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY 'cholesterol lowering drugs' (among hundreds of other things) - then yes, you would have a valid point. so it was ALL recalled and banned from sale till it was all made safe again. Yep - a few deaths = total ban at gunpoint. Let's see - how many deaths a year are there from prescription drugs (overdoses, wrongly prescribed, or interactions)? Over a HUNDRED THOUSAND... The Alt Health industry is almost as big a business as the Pharm, Poppycock... it is certainly way more commercialized than I would like - but saying they are almost as big as the 'Pharm' is like saying I'm almost as famous as 'Elvis' but with fewer regulations and less accountability. Because fewer are needed. Most natural health products are not toxic chemical poisons, like pharmaceutical drugs are. Lots of crap that doesn't do you any GOOD being sold, sure - but at least it doesn't KILL you 99.99% of the time. When the Pharm screws up, they get sued big time. Too big to hide, big enough to make a hard fight. Pharmaceutical companies enjoy varying degrees of liability protection, and have virtually unlimited resources to fight these lawsuits - but yes, they still get sued, and in most cases, RIGHTLY SO. Not to mention the fact most of their INDIVIDUAL 'products' have killed FAR more people than ALL of the natural health products COMBINED. When alt health screws up, most just fade out of sight. ?? More like, people go to JAIL... or are driven out of business by armed thugs (FDA goon squads) like Dr Schulze's clinic. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: Vitamin C as Sunscreen
On 10/25/2007, Wayne Fugitt (cwa...@netdoor.com) wrote: All vitamins and minerals are required to make a sunscreen. EFA's help also. There is no SHORTCUT. It works for me - can't say much more than that... EFAs are always important, especially if you aren't getting enough... Hi Faith - its not really a big deal... Pure ascorbic acid powder, mixed in water in a spray bottle - spray it liberally on your skin - will prevent burning (it works better than any sunscreen you ever used), but will not prevent a natural tan, though it may take a little longer... spray it on when you first go out, then every 5 or 10 minutes if you can. A teaspoon or two in a small spray bottle is all you need... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSNote RE Vitamin/Mineral Recap
I just finished recapping and am fixing to send out the Daily Vitamin/Mineral Regime Recap that I promised. The responses are all over the place! They are also very helpful and insightful. The last two individual lists were very long and I tried to shorten them by taking out disclaimers. I hope that is ok since there is no individual name for a particular list mentioned in the recap. Input for changes will be considered. grin I hope it isn't too long so as to go over posting capacities. It should come to you right after this one does. I have the recap in a word file, so if anyone would care to have the recap in that format please email me and I'll get it out to you as an attachment. Thanks for all your contributions! Ruth B.
RE: CShepatitis c ... and reading the HM com-100 for EIS/CS ppm ???
works for me, but HCV seems to be able to learn to adapt...if i had it to do over, i'd hit it much harder (higher concentration and volume both, every few hours) unrelenting than i did the firs 6 months, where i screwed up by going to higher concentration less often and 1/2 the amount after the first couple months. also, i think fresh stuff where the particulate part hasn't fallen out or been filtered is much more potent and would stay with that. i started aging and super-filtering after the first 3 months too, and now think almost pure ionic doesn't get it now matter how strong. i'm using MMS now along with the CS, and a whole slew of herbs, and seem to be doing well. the stuff isn't really convenient or pleasant to deal with, but seems to be working. and the beck tools, and rife (for whatever it may be worth)... the mag pulser seems to be a good thing - want an oscillating field one with high power and rapid fire, but they're pricey. Ode - did your friends HIV count stay at 0 or climb up again after awhile? HM com-100: just got one. big fat thing. came with a HM TDS-3 bonus. measured some of my aged stable clear CS. my old TDS-1 says 31ppm. the new TDS-3 says 36ppm. the com-100 says about 71.5 uS in EC (KCl) mode, or 36ppm. now my question is how many ppm is my silver??? i somehow thought (i am CRS challanged) from reading that uS was agreed to read EIS/CS at about even translation to ppm ??? but this appears to be double what i expected, or is all my over-burning/filtering/repeat... really making it at over 70ppm ??? -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 7:37 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CShepatitis c It works for some and not for others. It takes a LOT of it, so make your own.. One person wrote to say he'd cured himself of a 15 year old case of Hep C He sipped a pint a day @ 12 PPM, all day, for 6 months. Tried on a friend, didn't do a thing for her Hep Cbut HIV counts went to zero. Ode -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSSnake Oil
Wayne, Haven't you heard? Real Snake Oil is very effective. It was the Fake Snake Oil sold by charlatans that gave Snake Oil a bad name. Dan Wayne Fugitive wrote: Evening Faith, At 12:36 PM 10/25/2007, you wrote: Simon, Will you please re-post your message about using vitamin c as sunscreen? I was trying to save it and it disappeared. You have a ghost on your computer. The ghost killers are harder to find than a virus scanner. All vitamins and minerals are required to make a sunscreen. EFA's help also. There is no SHORTCUT. Can you build a house with one material ? NO ! Can you build healthy skin and healthy oils with ONE material ? NO. Why everyone thinks one bottle of magic Snake Oil will cure anything continues to amaze me. If you had all the other items, adding the one that is missing would certainly appear to work wonders. Only one or two vitamins are used directly AS IS by the body. The purpose of most are to make it possibly to absorb and process minerals. You can take all the vitamins known to the world, and if you do not have the minerals, Guess what will happen ? Do you need a lesson on mail management? Simon is the best, and I am somewhere behind. grin Wayne === -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSAnimal dead yeast
Patriot, How does dead yeast build the immune system. I'm assuming this is NOT something for somebody with candida??? thanks, gail __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: Vitamin C as Sunscreen
Hi Wayne. I think I do have an email 'ghost'. I tried to catalogue that email message, and it went poof, and I couldn't find it anywhere.. but someone posted a copy for me. You guys are great. Faith - Original Message - From: Wayne Fugitt cwa...@netdoor.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 2:59 PM Subject: Re: CSRe: Vitamin C as Sunscreen Evening Faith, At 12:36 PM 10/25/2007, you wrote: Simon, Will you please re-post your message about using vitamin c as sunscreen? I was trying to save it and it disappeared. You have a ghost on your computer. The ghost killers are harder to find than a virus scanner. All vitamins and minerals are required to make a sunscreen. EFA's help also. There is no SHORTCUT. Can you build a house with one material ? NO ! Can you build healthy skin and healthy oils with ONE material ? NO. Why everyone thinks one bottle of magic Snake Oil will cure anything continues to amaze me. If you had all the other items, adding the one that is missing would certainly appear to work wonders. Only one or two vitamins are used directly AS IS by the body. The purpose of most are to make it possibly to absorb and process minerals. You can take all the vitamins known to the world, and if you do not have the minerals, Guess what will happen ? Do you need a lesson on mail management? Simon is the best, and I am somewhere behind. grin Wayne === -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: Vitamin C as Sunscreen
Hi Chuck. I take vitamin E, but not THAT much. Actually, as a victim of sunstroke several years ago, I spend little time in the sun. Years ago as a kid was on the beach from sun up to sun down, (almost). But years later as an adult, one hot day on the beach I got sunstroke in less than 1/2 hour and was sick for a few days afterwards. Since then I cannot tolerate the sun for any length of time, and I avoid it pretty much. Faith - Original Message - From: cking...@nycap.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 4:16 PM Subject: Re: CSRe: Vitamin C as Sunscreen Hi dose vitamin E ( up to 1000 IU) eliminated MY susceptibility to sunburn. Seems a pretty good magic bullet to me... Chuck This tagline is cursed. As you read you will be confuset by ther printeb wertz. Yer intellijenc wil vabni...xrt! xrt! On 10/25/2007 2:59:20 PM, Wayne Fugitt (cwa...@netdoor.com) wrote: Evening Faith, At 12:36 PM 10/25/2007, you wrote: Simon, Will you please re-post your message about using vitamin c as sunscreen? I was trying to save it and it disappeared. You have a ghost on your computer. The ghost killers are harder to find than a virus scanner. All vitamins and minerals are required to make a sunscreen. EFA's help also. There is no SHORTCUT. Can you build a house with one material ? NO ! Can you build healthy skin and healthy oils -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: Vitamin C as Sunscreen
Hi Simon. Thank you. what's EFA? Faith - Original Message - From: Simon Jester tansta...@libertytrek.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 5:36 PM Subject: Re: CSRe: Vitamin C as Sunscreen On 10/25/2007, Wayne Fugitt (cwa...@netdoor.com) wrote: All vitamins and minerals are required to make a sunscreen. EFA's help also. There is no SHORTCUT. It works for me - can't say much more than that... EFAs are always important, especially if you aren't getting enough... Hi Faith - its not really a big deal... Pure ascorbic acid powder, mixed in water in a spray bottle - spray it liberally on your skin - will prevent burning (it works better than any sunscreen you ever used), but will not prevent a natural tan, though it may take a little longer... spray it on when you first go out, then every 5 or 10 minutes if you can. A teaspoon or two in a small spray bottle is all you need... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CShepatitis c ... and reading the HM com-100 for EIS/CS ppm ???
my uncle has just been diagnosed with hep c and something about 65%, i have been trying to find something to help him.. i read in kevin tredeau's natural cures book about hydrogen peroxide therapy but i cant find anyone to do it bobli...@toadmail.com wrote: works for me, but HCV seems to be able to learn to adapt...if i had it to do over, i'd hit it much harder (higher concentration and volume both, every few hours) unrelenting than i did the firs 6 months, where i screwed up by going to higher concentration less often and 1/2 the amount after the first couple months. also, i think fresh stuff where the particulate part hasn't fallen out or been filtered is much more potent and would stay with that. i started aging and super-filtering after the first 3 months too, and now think almost pure ionic doesn't get it now matter how strong. i'm using MMS now along with the CS, and a whole slew of herbs, and seem to be doing well. the stuff isn't really convenient or pleasant to deal with, but seems to be working. and the beck tools, and rife (for whatever it may be worth)... the mag pulser seems to be a good thing - want an oscillating field one with high power and rapid fire, but they're pricey. Ode - did your friends HIV count stay at 0 or climb up again after awhile? HM com-100: just got one. big fat thing. came with a HM TDS-3 bonus. measured some of my aged stable clear CS. my old TDS-1 says 31ppm. the new TDS-3 says 36ppm. the com-100 says about 71.5 uS in EC (KCl) mode, or 36ppm. now my question is how many ppm is my silver??? i somehow thought (i am CRS challanged) from reading that uS was agreed to read EIS/CS at about even translation to ppm ??? but this appears to be double what i expected, or is all my over-burning/filtering/repeat... really making it at over 70ppm ??? -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 7:37 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CShepatitis c It works for some and not for others. It takes a LOT of it, so make your own.. One person wrote to say he'd cured himself of a 15 year old case of Hep C He sipped a pint a day @ 12 PPM, all day, for 6 months. Tried on a friend, didn't do a thing for her Hep Cbut HIV counts went to zero. Ode -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour I wrap myself in a badge of honor, a shield of modesty, a uniform of a mu'meen, a flag of Islam. I wrap myself in love, because love for Allah is why I wrap.. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
CSVit. D 3 source of 50,000iu cap
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Re: CSRe: Vitamin C as Sunscreen
On 10/25/2007 7:37:12 PM, faith gagne (jitte...@gis.net) wrote: Hi Chuck. I take vitamin E, but not THAT much. Actually, as a victim of sunstroke several years ago, I spend little time in the sun. Years ago as a kid was on the beach from sun up to sun down, (almost). But years later as an adult, one hot day on the beach I got sunstroke in less than 1/2 hour and was sick for a few days afterwards. Since then I cannot tolerate the sun for any length of time, and I avoid it pretty much. Faith Yup, a beach vacation did the same for me some 40 years ago. That's when I investigated hi dose E. Been very happy since. Chuck This person is a natural product. The slight variations in color and texture enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS safety
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Re: CScs as food preservative
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Re: CS tryptophan repost from june'06
Ah. Yes, that was interesting, though after reading BROJON for many months, I came to have nagging doubts about the author, who seems to be an authority on anything and everything, and, in his own mind, consistently finds brilliant insights and solutions where everyone else has failed.Unfortunately, he doesn't seem to follow up on very much. The sited article, if it is true, could win someone a Nobel Prize in medicine. Suppose it's true that half of all Americans have sub-clinical trichinosis from factory-farmed pork, as the essay claimed? Verification of that would change a great many things in the USA, that's for sure. But where's the evidence and the follow up? Big claims require big evidence. Unfortunately, I've never heard anything more about it.That doesn't mean it isn't true, but it it raises a few red flags. Anyway, at least tryptophan is back on the market, and Marshall Smith's essay is definitely still worth a read, especially if tryptophan could serve as a safe prozac substitute. The stories about prozac side-effects are hair-raising. Thanks for reminding us about that article. I no longer subscribe to BROJON -- I got fed up with it -- but I'd be deeply impressed if it turns out he's right about trichinosis. BTW -- I read just today that scientists are speculating that abnormal prions may NOT be the cause of BSE or CJD, the human version. Check New Scientist. If not, EIS could turn out to be of some use to sufferers, or as prophylaxis. On Thursday, Oct 25, 2007, at 05:30 Asia/Tokyo, julie martin wrote: for those who may be interested. --- Jonathan B. Britten wrote: List, Many members know about big Pharm fraud, but few examples are as compelling at the L-Tryptophan scam, which I recall very, very well. BROJON, although being rather uneven in my opinion, has a great piece which I am pasting below. THE INSIDER'S STORY OF AN L-TRYPTOPHAN RESEARCHER A Response To Reader's Requests -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS tryptophan repost from june'06
That essay by Marshall Smith was interesting, but after reading BROJON for many months, I came to have nagging doubts about the author, who seems to be an authority on anything and everything, and, in his own mind, consistently finds brilliant insights and solutions where everyone else has failed.Unfortunately, he doesn't seem to follow up on very much. The article he wrote, if it is true, has information that could win someone a Nobel Prize in medicine. Suppose it's true that half of all Americans have sub-clinical trichinosis from factory-farmed pork, as the essay claimed? Verification of that would change a great many things in the USA, that's for sure. But where's the evidence and the follow up? Big claims require big evidence. Unfortunately, I've never heard anything more about it.That doesn't mean it isn't true, but it it raises a few red flags. Anyway, at least tryptophan is back on the market, and Marshall Smith's essay is definitely still worth a read, especially if tryptophan could serve as a safe prozac substitute. The stories about prozac side-effects are hair-raising. Thanks for reminding us about that article. I no longer subscribe to BROJON -- I got fed up with it -- but I'd be deeply impressed if it turns out he's right about trichinosis. BTW -- I read just today that scientists are speculating that abnormal prions may NOT be the cause of BSE or CJD, the human version. Check New Scientist. If not, EIS could turn out to be of some use to sufferers, or as prophylaxis. On Thursday, Oct 25, 2007, at 05:30 Asia/Tokyo, julie martin wrote: for those who may be interested. --- Jonathan B. Britten wrote: List, Many members know about big Pharm fraud, but few examples are as compelling at the L-Tryptophan scam, which I recall very, very well. BROJON, although being rather uneven in my opinion, has a great piece which I am pasting below. THE INSIDER'S STORY OF AN L-TRYPTOPHAN RESEARCHER A Response To Reader's Requests -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCredit where due
For all the criticism of the FDA here, most of it deserved, they have to get credit for lifting the ban eventually. I hadn't known. Thanks for the information. On Thursday, Oct 25, 2007, at 01:47 Asia/Tokyo, faith gagne wrote: That ban was lifted in 2002. You should be able to get it at any health food store, or google for L-Tryptophan and you will find lots of on-line sources. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
