Re: CSliver cleanse - OT
zeolite, look it up In a message dated 2/28/2010 6:34:38 A.M. Central Standard Time, d...@deetr oy.org writes: can anyone tell me the name of the really good liver cleanse capsules they had please? I have unfortunately deleted the post and don't know how to use the archives because I don't know the name of the person that posted as I said. Help! dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCS for injection (UNCLASSIFIED)
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE What was the (I believe it was 2) CS that was good for injection. How would one use CS for injection. I am troubled by sinus infections from time to time. The cs I take does not appear to get to my sius's. I do use a Nebulizer with cs in it. I breath in through mouth and out of nose. When I am done my nose is wet from cs. This also does not help my Sinus's. I was wondering about injections of CS. How much how often and what kind and why only certain Ones were for injection. I usually get rid of problem with an antibiotic. The nebulizer does help me with by problem of getting Chest colds or worse. Bob Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: CSGMO foods
I am sure it is. To me most man-made stuff is rubbish and causes problems one way or another and to mess about with the genetics of food, is nothing short of crazy! dee On 4 Mar 2010, at 02:50, djphe...@att.net wrote: Makes me wonder if the GMO food is what has affected the bee population? Something to look into, if it's truly affecting mice and pigs this way. Debbie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGMO foods
None that has been *reported* that is! dee On 4 Mar 2010, at 03:11, Steve G wrote: There are two main theories about the bee population problem. One is a nasty parasite - read about promising developments at this site - http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/04/090414084627.htm There is also a theory that certain pesticides interfere with the honeybees' ability to find their way home. Having some trouble finding a site for that. No evidence of GMO involvement. Steve -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSliver cleanse - OT
I thought this was a heavy metal chelator? dee On 4 Mar 2010, at 12:28, martsmai...@aol.com wrote: zeolite, look it up In a message dated 2/28/2010 6:34:38 A.M. Central Standard Time, d...@deetroy.org writes: can anyone tell me the name of the really good liver cleanse capsules they had please? I have unfortunately deleted the post and don't know how to use the archives because I don't know the name of the person that posted as I said. Help! dee -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSquestions - OT
2 questions: can anyone tell me how one would wash their hair with bentonite clay? And also, does anyone know if its possible to make vitamin D3 using the liposomal method? Thanks to anyone who responds. dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSTake a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive
Ah, but GMO's ARE bad for you. Nature will selectively modify organisms over time... basically the fittest survive. For man to alter the genetic makeup of a cell by introducing foreign genes (from animals into plants for instance) is sheer folly, frought with all sorts of potential catastrophies not only for the flora involved (and others nearby), but also by the humans that end up ingesting these frankenfoods. Allergic reactions are just one of the potential side effects. We cannot adopt to changes quickly, it can take centuries. GMO foods have the potential of wiping out all living things and should be banned immediatly. - Original Message - From: Alan Jones To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 10:09 AM Subject: Re: CSTake a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive The point is not so much, are GMOs bad for you, it's consumers have a right to know which foods are GMO. Do you don't disagree with that? Alan On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Steve G chube...@yahoo.com wrote: I have absolutely no concerns about Genetically modified fruits and vegetables. In my mind genetically modified means that there has been an organized hybridization effort as opposed to the natural course of evolution which does the same thing, but by accident rather than by design. Big deal. -- Alan Jones
Re: CSOT
They take it out so the stuff will sell and they now have something to replace it...but because vaccines are so expensive to make.after all that which has it in it has been sold to farm animals, pets and adults, being not as sensitive to a small addition of mercury to a larger environmental load from diesel trucks and busses and coal fired power plants spewing tons of mercury vapor into the air every day. Ode At 02:48 PM 3/3/2010 +0100, you wrote: Dee, those are my thoughts exactly. Why would or should they take the mercury, or anything else they have in their vaccines for that matter, out? Remember, people, the vaccines are not here to help fight off diseases, its to create havoc in our bodies, or in animals. No vaccine is good. I would rather contract the disease and treat that, then compromise my immune system any further. Aldi On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick mailto:d...@deetroy.orgd...@deetroy.org wrote: I don't think they have taken it out. They are supposed to be doing so for childrens but I doubt they will for pets. I don't really know though, as I don't vaccinate. dee On 3 Mar 2010, at 01:19, Shirley Reed wrote: I read recently that pet vaccines had their thimerosal removed in 1997 because it was wreaking havoc on people's pets. I have been unable to confirm this. Does anyone here happen to know about this? If true, more precise info will be very good 'ammunition' in any discussion about vaccinations of any kind. Anybody know exactly when and by what means the mercury was taken out? All info appreciated. pj Contacting me at my personal addy is ok since this is definitely OT. -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.orghttp://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectunsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.htmlhttp://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSilver wire
Actually, coins have less available surface area. The edge is like a hundred pointy lightning rods. Watch and see where oxide deposits form the thickest and what goes away the fastestyou'll get the idea. A hemispherical or hemi-cylindrical shape pushes the centers closer together as the edges stay further back utilizing far more surface area. Modern electroplating electrodes are *D* shaped for that reason. [hemi-cylindrical ] and the bottom corners and lower curved edge still gets rounded trying to go spherical. On both wire and flat strips, corner/tip discharge over concentration can be compensated for by bending the tips away from each other a bit. ode At 06:52 AM 3/3/2010 -0800, you wrote: I have used 10 ga and 12 ga. It really doesn't matter. They will get worn down anyway eventually, so even if you start with 10 ga, it will gradually dwindle down to nothing. I think the wires are easier to work with than coins, although the coins would have more surface area, so might be better because of that. And yes, for sure you want to prevent the alligator clips from touching the water. You don't want any of their material to get into you. It might be interesting to drill a hole in the coin and hold it with a silver wire, but ... hate to waste the silver in the hole... Also, I don't know the purity of coins. Supposedly 999 is ok, but I personally prefer , which you can definitely get in the wire. there are places that make silver strips and sheets too. I forget where they are. Dick From: Golden Aldi goldena...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 8:56:19 AM Subject: Re: CSSilver wire How would you suspend the coins in the water? The alligator clips should not touch the water, right? I haven't a clue. A photo would surely be helpful. :-) I have silver strips and have been wondering where I could get new ones without going to the place where I bought the generator. Any ideas on who else might have some for sale? I could probably just switch over to the wires, but which should I get? 10 or 12 gauge? I realize these are elemental questions, but I'm asking them anyway :-) Aldi On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 2:12 PM, GARY ABEL mailto:gajo...@yahoo.comgajo...@yahoo.com wrote: I dunno too much about the prices on silver wire. I've been kind of looking around and thinking of making with the wire as someone told me there is more contact or something. But for now using coins is much cheaper. They last a long time too. The person who first told me about making CS said they'd probably last me forever. Not sure what it takes to wear them down.Does anyone know any drawbacks to using the silver coins? Thanks, Gary Matted photos and Native American style flutes by gajon http://www.etsy.com/shop/gajonwww.etsy.com/shop/gajon From: Richard Goodwin mailto:dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.comdickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 8:05:12 AM Subject: Re: CSSilver wire That price -- $36/oz is for 99.99 % pure silver, not the more common (and cheaper) 99.9% pure. At ccsilver, they say their 99.9% is $31/oz, but they don't give a price directly for 99.99%. Converting from length to oz, it looks to me like ccsilver's 99.99% is around $37, so they are comparable. Are there cheaper places? Dick From: GARY ABEL mailto:gajo...@yahoo.comgajo...@yahoo.com To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 7:48:57 AM Subject: Re: CSSilver wire Wow. Silver is at $17 an ounce right now.This site wants $36 I use silver bouillon coins .999 you can usually get them a couple dollars over going rate. Of course you have to be set up with alligator clips. Anyway, just wanted to point that out. Maybe there is more involved with making silver wire than minting coins, but that seems awful high. I guess too they don't want to hassle with adjusting prices with silver market. Matted photos and Native American style flutes by gajon http://www.etsy.com/shop/gajonwww.etsy.com/shop/gajon From: Richard Goodwin mailto:dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.comdickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 7:22:50 AM Subject: Re: CSSilver wire http://www.atlasnova.com/www.atlasnova.com is where I get mine. Dick From: Leslie mailto:leslie1...@windstream.netleslie1...@windstream.net To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, March 2, 2010 7:01:09 PM Subject: CSSilver wire I have lost the links for buying the wire so would whoever sent would you please sent to me again. Thank you so much, Leslie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives:
Re: CSSilver wire
The silver maple is going for $19.36 today, then you pay the refiners premium, fabricators charge, shipping, handling, insurance and the sellers commissions. You can't buy silver at spot price and it has to be sold at a projected replacement value if it is to be re-stocked in the future. By the spool, Abe takes a modest 15% markup and could lose his shirt, big time, if the price takes a jump just before restocking time. $36 an ounce for a stock of wire being sold slow by the inch is a big gamble. The longer you keep it, the bigger the gamble if you plan to re-stock. If the recent past is any indicator, [and current market pressures are stronger than ever with a gold to silver ratio well over the traditional 12-15%, now at ~64% ] it should be $200 an ounce. With a high turnover rate selling coins, there isn't quite so much risk. http://www.apmex.com/Category/2/Silver_Canadian_Maple_Leafs__2010__Prior.aspx Canada 1 oz Silver Maple Leafs Sell Price $20.67 [$50 minimum] * $12.95 (USD) for orders of $50.00 - $249.99 (USD) (Plus 3% of subtotal) - (*See above for Available Discounts) * $19.95 (USD) for orders of $250.00 - $999.99 (USD) (Plus 3% of subtotal)- (*See above for Available Discounts) * $24.95 (USD) for orders of $1000.00 - $24999.99 (USD) (Plus 3% of subtotal) - (*See above for Available Discounts) * Free for orders of $25,000 (USD) and over Minimum 3 coins = 62.01+12.00=18.60 [adding that 3%] = 80.62 / 3 = 25.82 per coin. Oh, and due to the shape amplifying edge discharge with centers and back doing virtually nothing, they don't make the best electrodes. [they'll work] Ode At 04:48 AM 3/3/2010 -0800, you wrote: Wow. Silver is at $17 an ounce right now.This site wants $36 I use silver bouillon coins .999 you can usually get them a couple dollars over going rate. Of course you have to be set up with alligator clips. Anyway, just wanted to point that out. Maybe there is more involved with making silver wire than minting coins, but that seems awful high. I guess too they don't want to hassle with adjusting prices with silver market. Matted photos and Native American style flutes by gajon www.etsy.com/shop/gajon From: Richard Goodwin dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 7:22:50 AM Subject: Re: CSSilver wire http://www.atlasnova.com/www.atlasnova.com is where I get mine. Dick From: Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, March 2, 2010 7:01:09 PM Subject: CSSilver wire I have lost the links for buying the wire so would whoever sent would you please sent to me again. Thank you so much, Leslie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSilver wire
The ridges on the edge concentrate edge discharge, limiting current density without overloading the Nernst Diffusion layer and the centers and backside do almost nothing. Those ridges will dissolve pretty fast making them somewhat better, however. A bit fiddly to mount. IOW It'll take longer to do it right, but you can do it for a very long time...and even if done wrong, the EIS/CS still works. In a pinch with a glass of rainwater and a half dead car battery? I'd use the heck out of them. Ode At 05:12 AM 3/3/2010 -0800, you wrote: I dunno too much about the prices on silver wire. I've been kind of looking around and thinking of making with the wire as someone told me there is more contact or something. But for now using coins is much cheaper. They last a long time too. The person who first told me about making CS said they'd probably last me forever. Not sure what it takes to wear them down.Does anyone know any drawbacks to using the silver coins? Thanks, Gary Matted photos and Native American style flutes by gajon www.etsy.com/shop/gajon From: Richard Goodwin dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 8:05:12 AM Subject: Re: CSSilver wire That price -- $36/oz is for 99.99 % pure silver, not the more common (and cheaper) 99.9% pure. At ccsilver, they say their 99.9% is $31/oz, but they don't give a price directly for 99.99%. Converting from length to oz, it looks to me like ccsilver's 99.99% is around $37, so they are comparable. Are there cheaper places? Dick From: GARY ABEL gajo...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 7:48:57 AM Subject: Re: CSSilver wire Wow. Silver is at $17 an ounce right now.This site wants $36 I use silver bouillon coins .999 you can usually get them a couple dollars over going rate. Of course you have to be set up with alligator clips. Anyway, just wanted to point that out. Maybe there is more involved with making silver wire than minting coins, but that seems awful high. I guess too they don't want to hassle with adjusting prices with silver market. Matted photos and Native American style flutes by gajon http://www.etsy.com/shop/gajonwww.etsy.com/shop/gajon From: Richard Goodwin dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 7:22:50 AM Subject: Re: CSSilver wire http://www.atlasnova.com/www.atlasnova.com is where I get mine. Dick From: Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, March 2, 2010 7:01:09 PM Subject: CSSilver wire I have lost the links for buying the wire so would whoever sent would you please sent to me again. Thank you so much, Leslie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSTake a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive
Steve, That statement is shocking. Do you work for Monsanto or some other agrifood corp? Nature does nothing by accident... genetic changes occur over thousands of years for survivability and those changes occur within a given species. Thus, animal genes NEVER enter into a plant cell in nature. The practice of genetic engineering is not only unhealthful, it is fraught with all sorts of dangerous outcomes. Allergic reactions in people who eat the GMO food is just one outcome. The practice of genetically altering plants could potentially wipe out all life on earth and should be banned. People have already died from eating GMO corn (Starlink variety). Insects ingesting these plants have also died en masse. Birds (and bats) may also be dying due to genetically modified foods (grains and other plants). This practice MUST be stopped now. - Original Message - From: Steve G To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 10:05 AM Subject: Re: CSTake a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive I have absolutely no concerns about Genetically modified fruits and vegetables. In my mind genetically modified means that there has been an organized hybridization effort as opposed to the natural course of evolution which does the same thing, but by accident rather than by design. Big deal. --- On Wed, 3/3/10, Sunwaterclear - Sunny sunwatercl...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Sunwaterclear - Sunny sunwatercl...@yahoo.com Subject: CSTake a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive To: Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 10:02 AM This is so important that I am reposting it on all the lists I belong to. I think you all know that I am not a sp mmer. I know that many of you on this list are very concerned about natural wellness and this includes the food that you eat. There is an urgent requirement now to stand up and speak out about GMO. I just submitted my comments to the USDA telling them to protect the integrity of organics by not approving the use of genetically-modified (GMO) alfalfa. The USDA has alarmingly and mistakenly announced that they do not believe that consumers care whether or not GMO's are a part of our food supply and our agricultural production. Approving GMO alfalfa would significantly harm the integrity of and access to organic food, as well as the livelihoods of organic farmers. We need to show them that we do indeed care! Please take a moment to submit your comments to the USDA by following this link from Food Democracy Now! Then please pass this on. Every voice counts! http://fdn.actionkit.com/cms/sign/make_a_stand_for_organics/?referring_akid=.120471.eeehU8source=taf Thanks! And please, please, forward this to everyone you know A peek into our world.. Feed the Future - Forest gardens - Sustainable Lifetime Food for All Feed the Future- The blog In depth articles - forest gardens, natural wellness, human consciousness WHAT has to happen for us to evolve and emerge? http://www.pierresoleil.com/ourblog Follow us on Twitter - www.twitter.com/return2earth Wellness v pharma, free energy v oil, own grown v processed food, community v nuclear, natural building v concrete, consciousness v asleep Info on what's going on and alternative and natural technologies for a simpler life Tune in and friend us on Facebook - Pierre Soleil return to earth -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
FW: [AKO Warning - Message fails DKIM verification] CSCS for injection (UNCLASSIFIED)
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE Did this post make the list Bob What was the (I believe it was 2) CS that was good for injection. How would one use CS for injection. I am troubled by sinus infections from time to time. The cs I take does not appear to get to my sius's. I do use a Nebulizer with cs in it. I breath in through mouth and out of nose. When I am done my nose is wet from cs. This also does not help my Sinus's. I was wondering about injections of CS. How much how often and what kind and why only certain Ones were for injection. I usually get rid of problem with an antibiotic. The nebulizer does help me with by problem of getting Chest colds or worse. Bob Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: CSTake a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive
I would agree that it would not be a good idea to genetically modify stuff blindly without having any idea what the modification will do. But as far as I know, they DO know what these modifications will do, which is why they do them in the first place. Tomatoes that have a longer shelf life and taste better, plants that have a better resistance to parasites, so they don't require chemical sprays to protect them, etc. Calling them frankenfood brings to mind an image of the superstitious villagers circling the castle with torches, in a total panic because they don't have a clue what is going on inside. Better to find out what is going on, get some real knowledge of the subject, and then panic. :-) And I'm certainly not for blindly accepting anything like GMO either. But I know nothing about it, so need to find out before I take a position either for or against. As for evolution, it is caused in a number of ways: 1. Changing environmental conditions can cause organisms to die off that are unable to adapt, leaving only those that do adapt to reproduce and thereby replicate their genes. 2. Changing sexual preferences can have the same effect, but many orders of magnitude faster than 1. 3. Pure chance -- gamma rays, chemicals, or other accidents can cause genetic modifications that, if they are successful, will begin a new line of organisms, perhaps even drastically different from their predecessors, all depending on the nature of the modification. As I understand it, random accidental genetic modifications happen to all living things all the time, but since most result in changes that cause the new organism to fail, they never see the light of day. There is a lot to evolution. I highly recommend Richard Dawkins's book The Selfish Gene. Dick From: Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, March 4, 2010 9:18:39 AM Subject: Re: CSTake a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive Steve, That statement is shocking. Do you work for Monsanto or some other agrifood corp? Nature does nothing by accident... genetic changes occur over thousands of years for survivability and those changes occur within a given species. Thus, animal genes NEVER enter into a plant cell in nature. The practice of genetic engineering is not only unhealthful, it is fraught with all sorts of dangerous outcomes. Allergic reactions in people who eat the GMO food is just one outcome. The practice of genetically altering plants could potentially wipe out all life on earth and should be banned. People have already died from eating GMO corn (Starlink variety). Insects ingesting these plants have also died en masse. Birds (and bats) may also be dying due to genetically modified foods (grains and other plants). This practice MUST be stopped now.
Re: CSTake a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive
Richard, We will have to agree to disagree. They DO NOT know what the outcomes of GMO will do over time... there hasn't been enough time elapsed to do proper studies, which would take 20 - 30 years. Secondly, if you've ever eaten organically grown produce you will find that most of it tastes thousands of times better than GMO foods, tomatoes included. Plants having their genes altered by producing their own glyphosphate (Roundup) kill indescriminately. Bugs and animals eating these Roundup Ready plants often die (as BT cotton has shown in India and elsewhere). Often, the bugs who eat these GMO plants develop resistence to the toxins and require even MORE and more potent insecticides and this too has shown to be true in studies. It is a fallacy that less insecticides are used, more are used and more potent and deadly ones at that. Fooling with nature is sheer stupidity built on greed and has the potential of killing all life on earth. Bob - Original Message - From: Richard Goodwin To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 6:39 AM Subject: Re: CSTake a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive I would agree that it would not be a good idea to genetically modify stuff blindly without having any idea what the modification will do. But as far as I know, they DO know what these modifications will do, which is why they do them in the first place. Tomatoes that have a longer shelf life and taste better, plants that have a better resistance to parasites, so they don't require chemical sprays to protect them, etc. Calling them frankenfood brings to mind an image of the superstitious villagers circling the castle with torches, in a total panic because they don't have a clue what is going on inside. Better to find out what is going on, get some real knowledge of the subject, and then panic. :-) And I'm certainly not for blindly accepting anything like GMO either. But I know nothing about it, so need to find out before I take a position either for or against. As for evolution, it is caused in a number of ways: 1. Changing environmental conditions can cause organisms to die off that are unable to adapt, leaving only those that do adapt to reproduce and thereby replicate their genes. 2. Changing sexual preferences can have the same effect, but many orders of magnitude faster than 1. 3. Pure chance -- gamma rays, chemicals, or other accidents can cause genetic modifications that, if they are successful, will begin a new line of organisms, perhaps even drastically different from their predecessors, all depending on the nature of the modification. As I understand it, random accidental genetic modifications happen to all living things all the time, but since most result in changes that cause the new organism to fail, they never see the light of day. There is a lot to evolution. I highly recommend Richard Dawkins's book The Selfish Gene. Dick -- From: Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, March 4, 2010 9:18:39 AM Subject: Re: CSTake a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive Steve, That statement is shocking. Do you work for Monsanto or some other agrifood corp? Nature does nothing by accident... genetic changes occur over thousands of years for survivability and those changes occur within a given species. Thus, animal genes NEVER enter into a plant cell in nature. The practice of genetic engineering is not only unhealthful, it is fraught with all sorts of dangerous outcomes. Allergic reactions in people who eat the GMO food is just one outcome. The practice of genetically altering plants could potentially wipe out all life on earth and should be banned. People have already died from eating GMO corn (Starlink variety). Insects ingesting these plants have also died en masse. Birds (and bats) may also be dying due to genetically modified foods (grains and other plants). This practice MUST be stopped now.
Re: CSIntroduction
Ed, Rest assured you've bought a great unit. I have their SG7 Pro model that makes 5 gallons at a time (in about 2 - 3 hours). Your unit will take longer but will make excellent crystal clear ionic/colloidal silver. It's very easy to use and shuts off automatically when the solutiion is made. Bob - Original Message - From: Ed Nelson To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 3:17 PM Subject: CSIntroduction Hi, My name is Ed and I'm new to this group. I have been interested in and used as needed ionic/colloidal silver for about six years now. It has been very effective for me especially in early stages of colds and flu. This has been a tough winter so far and I have spent about $180 for 64 oz of Earthborn Colloidal Silver. (16, 16, and 32) In order to save money I have decided to start making my own and just purchased a unit from SilverGen. I haven't recieved it yet but I'll look forward to any constructive words of wisdom. Best of health to all of you! Ed
Re: CSTake a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive
This is the crux of the problem, the arrogance of these scientists. Yes, they THINK they know what the modification will do, but from what I've been reading, they're wrong. AS USUAL. Alan On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Richard Goodwin dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.comwrote: I would agree that it would not be a good idea to genetically modify stuff blindly without having any idea what the modification will do. *But as far as I know, they DO know what these modifications will do, which is why they do them in the first place. * -- Alan Jones
Re: CSSilver wire
Hello Ode, Just trying to understand this a little bit more and thinking out loud... I have a SG6 generator that uses flat strips of silver. If I bent the flat strips (just a little) so the edges were slightly further away from each other would that help to minimize the edge effects? Also, could you expand a little on why we are interested in reducing edge effects? Thanks. Tom - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 4:24 AM Subject: Re: CSSilver wire The ridges on the edge concentrate edge discharge, limiting current density without overloading the Nernst Diffusion layer and the centers and backside do almost nothing. Those ridges will dissolve pretty fast making them somewhat better, however. A bit fiddly to mount. IOW It'll take longer to do it right, but you can do it for a very long time...and even if done wrong, the EIS/CS still works. In a pinch with a glass of rainwater and a half dead car battery? I'd use the heck out of them. Ode At 05:12 AM 3/3/2010 -0800, you wrote: I dunno too much about the prices on silver wire. I've been kind of looking around and thinking of making with the wire as someone told me there is more contact or something. But for now using coins is much cheaper. They last a long time too. The person who first told me about making CS said they'd probably last me forever. Not sure what it takes to wear them down.Does anyone know any drawbacks to using the silver coins? Thanks, Gary -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSTake a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive
The beginnings of any new field of science are full of unknowns and mistakes. But over time, we learn, while trying to minimize mistakes. If we let our fears prevent us from ever exploring the unknown, then we would never have gone to the moon, or anywhere else. We wouldn't have any technology, or medicine, or colloidal silver. It is reasonable to stop moving in a wrong direction. It is not reasonbale to stop moving altogether. Dick From: Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, March 4, 2010 11:11:28 AM Subject: Re: CSTake a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive This is the crux of the problem, the arrogance of these scientists. Yes, they THINK they know what the modification will do, but from what I've been reading, they're wrong. AS USUAL. Alan On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Richard Goodwin dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com wrote: I would agree that it would not be a good idea to genetically modify stuff blindly without having any idea what the modification will do. But as far as I know, they DO know what these modifications will do, which is why they do them in the first place. -- Alan Jones
Re: CS CLAY used for Lupus recovering Dog--Wow so far!!
I know this is CS talk, but in addition since tried on my dog, I am now using Living Clay for dog's Lupus RECOVERY. She's been drinking it for 2 days, but yesterday made up a body mask for her and left on several hours. Her scabs/yucks under her neck all gone when I washed it off. Her ecezma skin condition looks like it cleared up in a few hours too. So far we have a few red areas from her scratching to deal with but seeing the skin today is giving me ALL hope I found the answer to her LUPUS continued recovery with skin issues to the max! She's off all steroids/antibiotics that caused the SKIN problems!!! Yeah, for sharing and wisdom. Don't buy anything but Living Clay only!!! Not all created equal. PerryA.com may be on this site so she's there to help even via phone. Carolg
Re: CS(LL) Have you heard of this name change ?? Sweeteners.
Me too! I have a good friend in Canada, but if I had her send me some, do doubt she would get in trouble. I wonder if there is a way to say what it is, not lie, but still have it be innocuous to customs? sol At 08:59 PM 3/3/2010, you wrote: Cyclamate is the best tasting artificial sweetener ever!!! I really miss it. ;-)) I do... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS for injection (UNCLASSIFIED)
Have you tried CS with about 5 % DMSO in a neti pot? Using a neti pot to completely flush the sinuses with the mix might just do the trick. http://yoga108.org/pages/show/106-how-to-use-a-neti-pot-without-danger sol At 05:36 AM 3/4/2010, you wrote: Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE What was the (I believe it was 2) CS that was good for injection. How would one use CS for injection. I am troubled by sinus infections from time to time. The cs I take does not appear to get to my sius's. I do use a Nebulizer with cs in it. I breath in through mouth and out of nose. When I am done my nose is wet from cs. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSilver wire
Thanks for clarifying, Chuck! How clean should the anvil be, since I'll have to clean it before my husband hammers the coin. I don't live in Canada, but I suppose I could possibly get one over here in Europe. The part I didn't quite understand was the last part, after you make a thinner sheet, like cutting into the ribbon? and what's a tin snip? I also don't know how thick the coin is to begin with, since all currencies have their own sizes, and then how thin is too thin, and how thick should it not be. I don't know if it would make much of a difference. I haven't experimented with any of this stuff yet, and would like to learn from those with experience, so I hope you won't mind me asking, what might seem as mundane questions :-) Thanks in Advance! Aldi Oh, you also mentioned, that they last longer than the wires or strips. Why would that be? Does it have anything to do with the total area, like the larger it is, the better the energy is dispersed? And I'm trying to think of what someone said about brewing in the sun and adding something to it for the stirring motion? I tried to look for it again, but that's hopeless. Just in case someone might remember, or the person who wrote it, could respond, I would greatly appreciate it. I'd like to see if I have less crud on the bottom. On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 12:27 AM, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: I use Canadian Silver Coinage. I heat with a propane torch to soften, hammer it out on an anvil to make a thinner sheet, and cut into ribbon for use with tin snips. Chuck If you don't care where you are, you ain't lost!
Re: CSTake a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive
At 07:12 AM 3/4/2010, you wrote: Ah, but GMO's ARE bad for you. Nature will selectively modify organisms over time... basically the fittest survive. For man to alter the genetic makeup of a cell by introducing foreign genes (from animals into plants for instance) is sheer folly, frought with all sorts of potential catastrophies not only for the flora involved (and others nearby), but also by the humans that end up ingesting these frankenfoods. Allergic reactions are just one of the potential side effects. We cannot adopt to changes quickly, it can take centuries. GMO foods have the potential of wiping out all living things and should be banned immediatly. As I asked before and have so far seen no answermy question is, since these GMO genes are now loose in the environment, what happens even if GMO use is stopped today? How long will they persist? Will plants ever get rid of these foreign genes, over 10 years, 100 years, thousands of years? I have seen no information on this at all, but I have read that ALL corn worldwide, and ALL soybeans worldwide probably are now infected with GMO genes. It may not be that bad, yet, but once loose in the environment, which GMO genes are, they do spread without further help from monsanto, etc. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSColloid Master??
Thanks Sol, and to others, suggesting I try seeding. My only reservation would have been, that I have less CS to use or give away, so I'll just use a larger container, which would probably make the brewing time longer, but probably, most likey, not all that much longer. On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 5:23 AM, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: It might depend on how much of the previous batch you leave behind to seed the next batch. I believe someone posted a long time ago a formula for this, might have been Terry Chamberlin? I think it was that leaving 1/4 of the previous batch will reduce brewing time by 2/3 or similar, I can't remember it exactly, but since I first read it I have always left approx 1/4 of the previous batch. At first it may seem like this wastes CS you could be using, but for me it speeds up the brewing time so much it is worth it. It may be pertinent that I need to start with distilled water that is very pure. So if I didn't seed a batch at all, it will take a very long time indeed. sol
Re: CSColloid Master??
Thanks Ode! I just responded to the other thread, mentioning that I couldn't find the in the sun stirring method, and it was because I had not gotten to it yet in my mailbox. Aldi On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net wrote: A black surface soaking up the suns rays will heat that area in the water more than all the other areas. Warm rises, relatively cooler sinks [Temperature differential ] and the water circulates. [Thermal Stirring] Stirring does reduce deposits, especially where an un-interrupted ion track might intersect the container, but may not eliminate them as the majority of crud [but not all of it ] comes from water contamination being used up by highly reactive ions forming nonconductive particulates...in effect, further purifying the water as that insoluble crud falls out, as added ions that don't find a reaction partner make it more conductive with soluble ionic *silver*. So The crud is a good thing...to leave on the bottom...as the top becomes more refined by its dropping out. The *generator* always does the same very simple thing in a massively variable and extremely reactive environment. A low frequency alternating current output to the electrodes eliminates DC ion tracking thus reducing the need to stir and those direction shifting traveling ions have mass and velocity, thus will move the water some, molecule by molecule by impact, but mostly only directly between the electrodes. If the container is mostly filled with electrode, that's generally enough stirring. ode
Re: CSColloid Master??
At 11:04 AM 3/4/2010, you wrote: Thanks Sol, and to others, suggesting I try seeding. My only reservation would have been, that I have less CS to use or give away, so I'll just use a larger container, which would probably make the brewing time longer, but probably, most likey, not all that much longer. Aldi, Actually in my experience, the brewing process is speeded up so much that I end up with more CS to use. I can do two batches in the time it would take for one unseeded batch. So I lose approx 1/4 of each batch to seeding, but end up with 1.5 times as much finished CS in the same time period. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CS CLAY used for Lupus recovering Dog--Wow so far!!
They are now seriously investigating clay's ability to kill bacteria. See: Mineral Studies Advance Antibacterial Alternatives http://www.infectioncontroltoday.com/hotnews/mineral-studies-antibacterial-alternatives.html With the guidance of Tanya Cunningham, a graduate student mentor, Koehl has helped advance understanding about the antibacterial activity of clay minerals and their ability to kill what the best antibiotics on the market can't touch. Haydel's group, part of the School of Life Sciences, in the College of Liberals Arts and Sciences, and the Biodesign Institute at ASU, did the work in collaboration with Jack Summers, an inorganic chemist at Western Carolina University. They uncovered two factors that control the antibacterial activity. Their article, pH-dependent metal ion toxicity influences the antibacterial activity of two natural mineral mixtures was published March 1 in the journal Public Library of Science (PLoS) ONE. The article can be found at: http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0009456?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=feedutm_campaign=Feed%3A+plosone%2FPLoSONE+%28PLoS+ONE+Alerts%3A+New+Articles%29 pH-Dependent Metal Ion Toxicity Influences the Antibacterial Activity of Two Natural Mineral Mixtures - Steve N From: carolG [mailto:cgiam...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 9:37 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS CLAY used for Lupus recovering Dog--Wow so far!! I know this is CS talk, but in addition since tried on my dog, I am now using Living Clay for dog's Lupus RECOVERY. She's been drinking it for 2 days, but yesterday made up a body mask for her and left on several hours. Her scabs/yucks under her neck all gone when I washed it off. Her ecezma skin condition looks like it cleared up in a few hours too. So far we have a few red areas from her scratching to deal with but seeing the skin today is giving me ALL hope I found the answer to her LUPUS continued recovery with skin issues to the max! She's off all steroids/antibiotics that caused the SKIN problems!!! Yeah, for sharing and wisdom. Don't buy anything but Living Clay only!!! Not all created equal. PerryA.com may be on this site so she's there to help even via phone. Carolg -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: [AKO Warning - Message fails DKIM verification] CSCS for injection (UNCLASSIFIED)
Yes Bob. dee On 4 Mar 2010, at 14:34, Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC wrote: Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE Did this post make the list Bob What was the (I believe it was 2) CS that was good for injection. How would one use CS for injection. I am troubled by sinus infections from time to time. The cs I take does not appear to get to my sius's. I do use a Nebulizer with cs in it. I breath in through mouth and out of nose. When I am done my nose is wet from cs. This also does not help my Sinus's. I was wondering about injections of CS. How much how often and what kind and why only certain Ones were for injection. I usually get rid of problem with an antibiotic. The nebulizer does help me with by problem of getting Chest colds or worse. Bob Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS for injection (UNCLASSIFIED)
Hi Bob, Nasal flushing. I've had great success using a mix of vit C and Bicarb. What I'm doing is 2g ascorbic acid powder plus a teaspoonful of bicarb in a cup of warm water. Stir well. I do many flushes at a time. use a 50ml syringe with a short length of silicon tube and do one nostril, snort out, then the other, over and and over til the cup is done. This is profoundly better than doing one or two nostril flushes. OK, Tony On 4 Mar 2010 at 7:36, Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC wrote about : Subject : CSCS for injection (UNCLASSIFIED) Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE What was the (I believe it was 2) CS that was good for injection. How would one use CS for injection. I am troubled by sinus infections from time to time. The cs I take does not appear to get to my sius's. I do use a Nebulizer with cs in it. I breath in through mouth and out of nose. When I am done my nose is wet from cs. This also does not help my Sinus's. I was wondering about injections of CS. How much how often and what kind and why only certain Ones were for injection. I usually get rid of problem with an antibiotic. The nebulizer does help me with by problem of getting Chest colds or worse. Bob Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSColloid Master??
Sol, :-) I'm sold! On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 7:15 PM, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: At 11:04 AM 3/4/2010, you wrote: Thanks Sol, and to others, suggesting I try seeding. My only reservation would have been, that I have less CS to use or give away, so I'll just use a larger container, which would probably make the brewing time longer, but probably, most likey, not all that much longer. Aldi, Actually in my experience, the brewing process is speeded up so much that I end up with more CS to use. I can do two batches in the time it would take for one unseeded batch. So I lose approx 1/4 of each batch to seeding, but end up with 1.5 times as much finished CS in the same time period. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS CLAY used for Lupus recovering Dog--Wow so far!!
Carol, What's living clay? Here in Germany, they have something called Heilerde, translated: healing soil. Its in a powder form, but I also bought some already mixed, so its a super thick paste. I tried washing my hair with it, but I might have put too much in, and didn't wash it all out. I'm really not good at trying out new things on my own. Must be from my up-bringing. Anyway, I also have a dog with a skin disorder of something or other. For the longest time, I thought it might be mites, or fleas. Last autumn it was really bad. The vet said that she is probably allergic to the saliva of the flea or mite, since we were free of parasites, but she was still itching and scratching herself. Her skin is fire red, all over her body. She's a sheltie. Have you bathed your dog in the clay? I don't know how else I could cover my dog in this Heilerde I have. Heilerde can also be ingested, so maybe its the same stuff, just called something else. I'm glad to hear that your dog is off of steroids and antibiotics. Very glad! That's usually what the vets come with... that and cortisone. That's what Sheldon ended up getting last fall. I feel so bad about it, but it seems that no matter what I try, she still ends up getting this, and now with Spring soon upon us, she seems to be scratching herself a bit more too much to my liking. Aldi On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 6:36 PM, carolG cgiam...@yahoo.com wrote: I know this is CS talk, but in addition since tried on my dog, I am now using Living Clay for dog's Lupus RECOVERY. She's been drinking it for 2 days, but yesterday made up a body mask for her and left on several hours. Her scabs/yucks under her neck all gone when I washed it off. Her ecezma skin condition looks like it cleared up in a few hours too. So far we have a few red areas from her scratching to deal with but seeing the skin today is giving me ALL hope I found the answer to her LUPUS continued recovery with skin issues to the max! She's off all steroids/antibiotics that caused the SKIN problems!!! Yeah, for sharing and wisdom. Don't buy anything but Living Clay only!!! Not all created equal. PerryA.com may be on this site so she's there to help even via phone. Carolg * *
Re: CSCS for injection (UNCLASSIFIED)
I can highly recommend this!! DMSO is a MUST! I have a nose spray bottle that I filled with 70% CS and 30% DMSO. Then you could put some H2O2 into your nebulizer, and breathe that in! CS is nothing with a little of something else, it seems, especially for sinus problems. I have also been fighting with my sinuses for the past 15 yrs +, but now it seems that I am slowly getting some control over it. I don't expect miracles, only because I've had this ailment for s long, and I've read that the nasal passages can have build up, that it'll take time to knock down those walls. Aldi On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 6:57 PM, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: Have you tried CS with about 5 % DMSO in a neti pot? Using a neti pot to completely flush the sinuses with the mix might just do the trick. http://yoga108.org/pages/show/106-how-to-use-a-neti-pot-without-danger sol At 05:36 AM 3/4/2010, you wrote: Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE What was the (I believe it was 2) CS that was good for injection. How would one use CS for injection. I am troubled by sinus infections from time to time. The cs I take does not appear to get to my sius's. I do use a Nebulizer with cs in it. I breath in through mouth and out of nose. When I am done my nose is wet from cs. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSTake a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive
I want to hope, that if we were able to completely stop the GMO, that we could at least limit the foreign genes. Isn't one of the characteristics of GMO's is that they do not produce viable seeds for the next harvest? Which would mean that we have to be completely dependent on what the criminals working for and with Monsanto and Co. for seeds every year? And what kind of pesticides may they think our seeds need to be treated with? You're right about the corn being gene manipulated... Even here in Germany. We had some fields down the street. I should have taken pictures of the signs. Each sign was different, and there were about 4 or 6 different corn fields. I didn't think much of it back then, but today, its a totally different story. Now I'm informed, and on guard. Monsanto could possibly also be the reason why so many bees have been dying. Honey was always considered a medicine. No bees, no honey. No honey, no medicine. Aldi On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 7:01 PM, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: As I asked before and have so far seen no answermy question is, since these GMO genes are now loose in the environment, what happens even if GMO use is stopped today? How long will they persist? Will plants ever get rid of these foreign genes, over 10 years, 100 years, thousands of years? I have seen no information on this at all, but I have read that ALL corn worldwide, and ALL soybeans worldwide probably are now infected with GMO genes. It may not be that bad, yet, but once loose in the environment, which GMO genes are, they do spread without further help from monsanto, etc. sol
Re: CSIntroduction
Bob, You really make me wanna buy one of them SG7s... Aldi On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net wrote: Ed, Rest assured you've bought a great unit. I have their SG7 Pro model that makes 5 gallons at a time (in about 2 - 3 hours). Your unit will take longer but will make excellent crystal clear ionic/colloidal silver. It's very easy to use and shuts off automatically when the solutiion is made. Bob - Original Message - *From:* Ed Nelson ednel...@rocketmail.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Tuesday, March 02, 2010 3:17 PM *Subject:* CSIntroduction Hi, My name is Ed and I'm new to this group. I have been interested in and used as needed ionic/colloidal silver for about six years now. It has been very effective for me especially in early stages of colds and flu. This has been a tough winter so far and I have spent about $180 for 64 oz of Earthborn Colloidal Silver. (16, 16, and 32) In order to save money I have decided to start making my own and just purchased a unit from SilverGen. I haven't recieved it yet but I'll look forward to any constructive words of wisdom. Best of health to all of you! Ed
Re: CSIntroduction
Welcome to the group, Ed! Well I gotta say, its about time you bought yourself your own generator! You will never regret it, I'm sure of it. You'll also find more uses for the CS, and find yourself making quart after quart. Wait til you start sharing your CS! Enjoy! Aldi On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 12:17 AM, Ed Nelson ednel...@rocketmail.com wrote: Hi, My name is Ed and I'm new to this group. I have been interested in and used as needed ionic/colloidal silver for about six years now. It has been very effective for me especially in early stages of colds and flu. This has been a tough winter so far and I have spent about $180 for 64 oz of Earthborn Colloidal Silver. (16, 16, and 32) In order to save money I have decided to start making my own and just purchased a unit from SilverGen. I haven't recieved it yet but I'll look forward to any constructive words of wisdom. Best of health to all of you! Ed
Re: CSGMO foods
Steve, It's not GMO involvement, that kills, but Monsanto's pesticides... its on the plant, in the soil and IN the plant. Who owns ScienceDaily, anyway. Aldi On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 4:11 AM, Steve G chube...@yahoo.com wrote: There are two main theories about the bee population problem. One is a nasty parasite - read about promising developments at this site - http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/04/090414084627.htm There is also a theory that certain pesticides interfere with the honeybees' ability to find their way home. Having some trouble finding a site for that. No evidence of GMO involvement. Steve --- On *Wed, 3/3/10, djphe...@att.net djphe...@att.net* wrote: From: djphe...@att.net djphe...@att.net Subject: CSGMO foods To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 9:50 PM Makes me wonder if the GMO food is what has affected the bee population? Something to look into, if it's truly affecting mice and pigs this way. Debbie
Re: CSCS for injection (UNCLASSIFIED)
http://www.amazon.com/Grossan-Pulse%C2%AE-Pulsatile-Irrigation-System/dp/B0012VNZ1W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=hpcqid=1267730510sr=8-1 Way to go for sinus irrigation and cleansing. Del - Original Message - From: Golden Aldi To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 2:00 PM Subject: Re: CSCS for injection (UNCLASSIFIED) I can highly recommend this!! DMSO is a MUST! I have a nose spray bottle that I filled with 70% CS and 30% DMSO. Then you could put some H2O2 into your nebulizer, and breathe that in! CS is nothing with a little of something else, it seems, especially for sinus problems. I have also been fighting with my sinuses for the past 15 yrs +, but now it seems that I am slowly getting some control over it. I don't expect miracles, only because I've had this ailment for s long, and I've read that the nasal passages can have build up, that it'll take time to knock down those walls. Aldi On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 6:57 PM, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: Have you tried CS with about 5 % DMSO in a neti pot? Using a neti pot to completely flush the sinuses with the mix might just do the trick. http://yoga108.org/pages/show/106-how-to-use-a-neti-pot-without-danger sol At 05:36 AM 3/4/2010, you wrote: Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE What was the (I believe it was 2) CS that was good for injection. How would one use CS for injection. I am troubled by sinus infections from time to time. The cs I take does not appear to get to my sius's. I do use a Nebulizer with cs in it. I breath in through mouth and out of nose. When I am done my nose is wet from cs. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSProduction of CS info?
Hi Erika, and welcome to the group!! Your email sounds exactly like my first email did! LOL I have my CS in glass. Its the plastics I like to stay away from. As far as generators go, there are a few out there. I'm sure you'll be bombarded with info here, so I hope you have plenty of time, cause you're still going to have to do your research! If you're planning on making large batches for your co-op, then there's probably one or two that may fulfill that goal, the SG7 from Silver Puppy, I believe. Aldi On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 9:57 PM, er...@redangelbordeaux.com wrote: Hello Everyone! I want to start making my own CS for myself and members of my co-op. I'd like to know what your opinions are on a few subjects please. What do you think the best CS generators are? What is the best way to package the CS once it's made? - I'm confused on this one as one of your list members said not to package in glass but the generators make the CS in glass jars and all the over the counter CS is sold in glass containers Is there a shelf life on CS? If so what is it? In the early stages of R D here :) Thanks! *Erika H. :)* *www.RedAngelBordeaux.com http://www.redangelbordeaux.com/* *Ask me about my * *Home Made All Natural Dehydrated Beef Lung Treats* *Red Angel Raw - An Arizona RAW Feeding Group * http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/RedAngelRaw/
Re: CS CLAY used for Lupus recovering Dog--Wow so far!!
No one told me about clay other than this list and some other lists on. Wish vets knew this: helped with eczema over night...no kidding...just started tropical yesterday! Great Steve! carolf From: Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, March 4, 2010 11:32:31 AM Subject: RE: CS CLAY used for Lupus recovering Dog--Wow so far!! They are now seriously investigating clay's ability to kill bacteria. See: Mineral Studies Advance Antibacterial Alternatives http://www.infectioncontroltoday.com/hotnews/mineral-studies-antibacterial-alternatives.html With the guidance of Tanya Cunningham, a graduate student mentor, Koehl has helped advance understanding about the antibacterial activity of clay minerals and their ability to kill what the best antibiotics on the market can't touch. Haydel's group, part of the School of Life Sciences, in the College of Liberals Arts and Sciences, and the Biodesign Institute at ASU, did the work in collaboration with Jack Summers, an inorganic chemist at Western Carolina University. They uncovered two factors that control the antibacterial activity. Their article, pH-dependent metal ion toxicity influences the antibacterial activity of two natural mineral mixtures was published March 1 in the journal Public Library of Science (PLoS) ONE. The article can be found at: http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0009456?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=feedutm_campaign=Feed%3A+plosone%2FPLoSONE+%28PLoS+ONE+Alerts%3A+New+Articles%29 pH-Dependent Metal Ion Toxicity Influences the Antibacterial Activity of Two Natural Mineral Mixtures - Steve N From: carolG [mailto:cgiam...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 9:37 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS CLAY used for Lupus recovering Dog--Wow so far!! I know this is CS talk, but in addition since tried on my dog, I am now using Living Clay for dog's Lupus RECOVERY. She's been drinking it for 2 days, but yesterday made up a body mask for her and left on several hours. Her scabs/yucks under her neck all gone when I washed it off. Her ecezma skin condition looks like it cleared up in a few hours too. So far we have a few red areas from her scratching to deal with but seeing the skin today is giving me ALL hope I found the answer to her LUPUS continued recovery with skin issues to the max! She's off all steroids/antibiotics that caused the SKIN problems!!! Yeah, for sharing and wisdom. Don't buy anything but Living Clay only!!! Not all created equal. PerryA.com may be on this site so she's there to help even via phone. Carolg
Re: CSCS for injection (UNCLASSIFIED)
Interesting machine... amazon already said it won't or can't ship to my default address :-( Its also not cheap! And too bad they don't have a video, cause I'd like to see how it works and how to use it. Aldi On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Del d...@altsystem.com wrote: http://www.amazon.com/Grossan-Pulse%C2%AE-Pulsatile-Irrigation-System/dp/B0012VNZ1W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=hpcqid=1267730510sr=8-1 Way to go for sinus irrigation and cleansing. Del - Original Message - *From:* Golden Aldi goldena...@gmail.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Thursday, March 04, 2010 2:00 PM *Subject:* Re: CSCS for injection (UNCLASSIFIED) I can highly recommend this!! DMSO is a MUST! I have a nose spray bottle that I filled with 70% CS and 30% DMSO. Then you could put some H2O2 into your nebulizer, and breathe that in! CS is nothing with a little of something else, it seems, especially for sinus problems. I have also been fighting with my sinuses for the past 15 yrs +, but now it seems that I am slowly getting some control over it. I don't expect miracles, only because I've had this ailment for s long, and I've read that the nasal passages can have build up, that it'll take time to knock down those walls. Aldi On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 6:57 PM, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: Have you tried CS with about 5 % DMSO in a neti pot? Using a neti pot to completely flush the sinuses with the mix might just do the trick. http://yoga108.org/pages/show/106-how-to-use-a-neti-pot-without-danger sol At 05:36 AM 3/4/2010, you wrote: Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE What was the (I believe it was 2) CS that was good for injection. How would one use CS for injection. I am troubled by sinus infections from time to time. The cs I take does not appear to get to my sius's. I do use a Nebulizer with cs in it. I breath in through mouth and out of nose. When I am done my nose is wet from cs. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSTake a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive
Yeah but most of them don't have the potential of contaminating and screwing up every food crop on earth. Of causing a planet wide decimation of heritage crops. They're so sure they know and they've made claims in arrogance, and with no knowledge of long term effects. And they've tried to suppress any study that shows ill health effects from their tampering. Take round up ready GMO crops. The plants have actually become more resistant , and the resistance has spread to other weeds. They've opened up Pandora's box and they're not going to be able to contain it. It is the height of arrogance to introduce genetic material that they KNEW would spread and contaminate other plants. There is no way to control the spread of it. And maybe that's what they want, for their genes to end up in everything so they can claim they own it. And then charge everyone money for having their genes in everything from garden roses to backyard gardens. They don't care if they should do what they're doing, they did it because they could. The guys at the top aren't scientists either, they're not interested in how or why it works or doesn't. They're CEOs that are only interested in profiting from the science, not what ill effects might result from their tampering. This is the same company that says BPA is safe. And I suppose the broken eggs idea is a real comfort to all those Indian farmers who trusted Moronsanto about GMO cotton and committed suicide because they went broke because of crop failures and having to buy seed every growing season, farmers in poorer countries can't AFFORD to buy seed every growing season and the specific expensive chemicals required for use on them. The crop yields were miserable, much much less than Moronsanto promised in their glowing sales pitches. Moronsanto has proven to be a liar in the past, and I don't trust anything that comes from them. They poison people and the environment with their chemicals and they could care less as long as they rake in the bucks. If their lips are moving they're lying. I'm glad that a seed bank was created to preserve heritage seeds. Because I think at some point we're going to need it. It's the height of stupidity to use and endanger the world's food supply to test new unproven technology. I liken it to them creating a new virus and then indiscriminately spreading it in the population at large. It's dangerous and reckless to proceed in that manner. I am scientifically minded and have taken many science courses over the years, with the exception of chemistry. And you cannot convince me, no matter what you say or how you justify it, that they did not know that their crops would contaminate every field around them for hundreds of miles. Anyone who knows anything about plants and genes knows that pollen is spread far and wide by birds, insects, and even the wind. Pollens can be spread far and wide in the wind. We gett grit and dust in the US from Africa for heaven's sake. So it's not too far a stretch to realize that pollens can be carried for great distances. Birds fly great distances, and migrate. And bees can travel a bery long distance. Butterflies, and other insects flit from one filed to another with no concern about fences.They KNEW it would happen, and they deliberately contaminated other people's fields. There is a lot of skulduggery involved in the GMO seeds, and the USDA even owns patents as well from what I understand. So it's about money plain and simple. There needs to be a law enacted that anyone who takes a job at the FDA or the USDA cannot be hired if they worked for a company that creates a conflict of interest, or might benefit from the person taking a government position. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Richard Goodwin wrote: The beginnings of any new field of science are full of unknowns and mistakes. But over time, we learn, while trying to minimize mistakes. If we let our fears prevent us from ever exploring the unknown, then we would never have gone to the moon, or anywhere else. We wouldn't have any technology, or medicine, or colloidal silver. It is reasonable to stop moving in a wrong direction. It is not reasonbale to stop moving altogether. Dick *From:* Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Thu, March 4, 2010 11:11:28 AM *Subject:* Re: CSTake a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive This is the crux of the problem, the arrogance of these scientists. Yes, they THINK they know what the modification will do, but from what I've been reading, they're wrong. AS USUAL. Alan On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Richard Goodwin dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com mailto:dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com wrote: I would agree that it would not be a good idea to genetically modify stuff blindly without having any idea what the modification will do. *But as far as I know, they DO
Re: CSTake a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive
Medicinal honey is a non-existent financial threat to Monsanto. Golden Aldi goldena...@gmail.com wrote: = I want to hope, that if we were able to completely stop the GMO, that we could at least limit the foreign genes. Isn't one of the characteristics of GMO's is that they do not produce viable seeds for the next harvest? Which would mean that we have to be completely dependent on what the criminals working for and with Monsanto and Co. for seeds every year? And what kind of pesticides may they think our seeds need to be treated with? You're right about the corn being gene manipulated... Even here in Germany. We had some fields down the street. I should have taken pictures of the signs. Each sign was different, and there were about 4 or 6 different corn fields. I didn't think much of it back then, but today, its a totally different story. Now I'm informed, and on guard. Monsanto could possibly also be the reason why so many bees have been dying. Honey was always considered a medicine. No bees, no honey. No honey, no medicine. Aldi On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 7:01 PM, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: As I asked before and have so far seen no answermy question is, since these GMO genes are now loose in the environment, what happens even if GMO use is stopped today? How long will they persist? Will plants ever get rid of these foreign genes, over 10 years, 100 years, thousands of years? I have seen no information on this at all, but I have read that ALL corn worldwide, and ALL soybeans worldwide probably are now infected with GMO genes. It may not be that bad, yet, but once loose in the environment, which GMO genes are, they do spread without further help from monsanto, etc. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: [AKO Warning - Message fails DKIM verification] Re: CSIntroduction (UNCLASSIFIED)
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE I do not need that much at one time, if I did I could put units together for less Than $5 each. They would be with a current control, I have dozens of cheap power supplies Around. All you need beside a power supply (free) is clips a current limiter (1-3$) A set of clips (1$) only expensive things are the silver. I have 2 colloidal masters and 2 stirrers. I have one of the portable CS makers that uses A single 9 volt battery. I have made several units with current controls. I bought 10 or so silver eagle coins and have several feet of silver wire to hang coins. I tried to find out how I could buy the coins direct in Canada but no luck. I go to Canada fishing usually several time a Summer if I found a place to buy the silver coins cheaper. The coins I bought are from E Bay. I live across the border in suburbs of Detroit, Mi. Thanks for the advice though. Bob Bob, You really make me wanna buy one of them SG7s... Aldi On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net wrote: Ed, Rest assured you've bought a great unit. I have their SG7 Pro model that makes 5 gallons at a time (in about 2 - 3 hours). Your unit will take longer but will make excellent crystal clear ionic/colloidal silver. It's very easy to use and shuts off automatically when the solutiion is made. Bob - Original Message - From: Ed Nelson blockedmailto:ednel...@rocketmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 3:17 PM Subject: CSIntroduction Hi, My name is Ed and I'm new to this group. I have been interested in and used as needed ionic/colloidal silver for about six years now. It has been very effective for me especially in early stages of colds and flu. This has been a tough winter so far and I have spent about $180 for 64 oz of Earthborn Colloidal Silver. (16, 16, and 32) In order to save money I have decided to start making my own and just purchased a unit from SilverGen. I haven't recieved it yet but I'll look forward to any constructive words of wisdom. Best of health to all of you! Ed Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
CSCanadian maple leaf coins (UNCLASSIFIED)
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE Do we have any Canadians on the list. Is there any place in Canada to buy Silver Maple Leaf coins direct as I live in Detroit suburbs and can go to Canada some times in Summer. If I bought a cheap roller for making jewelry I could roll the coins So the surface area is greater or just hang 2 in the water. Looking for a way to buy coins cheaper. Bob Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
RE: CSCS for injection (UNCLASSIFIED)
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE When I post a message for some reason I do not see it in messages I receive from Silver-list so I do not know if message makes it there. I wonder if I went to archives if it would list it, I will have to try. I wonder how much H2o2 to put in nebulizer. 2 drops or what. Bob -Original Message- From: Golden Aldi [mailto:goldena...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 2:34 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS for injection (UNCLASSIFIED) Interesting machine... amazon already said it won't or can't ship to my default address :-( Its also not cheap! And too bad they don't have a video, cause I'd like to see how it works and how to use it. Aldi On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Del d...@altsystem.com wrote: http://www.amazon.com/Grossan-Pulse%C2%AE-Pulsatile-Irrigation-System/dp/B00 12VNZ1W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=hpcqid=1267730510sr=8-1 blockedhttp://www.amazon.com/Grossan-Pulse%C2%AE-Pulsatile-Irrigation-Syste m/dp/B0012VNZ1W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=hpcqid=1267730510sr=8-1 Way to go for sinus irrigation and cleansing. Del - Original Message - From: Golden Aldi blockedmailto:goldena...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 2:00 PM Subject: Re: CSCS for injection (UNCLASSIFIED) I can highly recommend this!! DMSO is a MUST! I have a nose spray bottle that I filled with 70% CS and 30% DMSO. Then you could put some H2O2 into your nebulizer, and breathe that in! CS is nothing with a little of something else, it seems, especially for sinus problems. I have also been fighting with my sinuses for the past 15 yrs +, but now it seems that I am slowly getting some control over it. I don't expect miracles, only because I've had this ailment for s long, and I've read that the nasal passages can have build up, that it'll take time to knock down those walls. Aldi On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 6:57 PM, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: Have you tried CS with about 5 % DMSO in a neti pot? Using a neti pot to completely flush the sinuses with the mix might just do the trick. http://yoga108.org/pages/show/106-how-to-use-a-neti-pot-without-danger blockedhttp://yoga108.org/pages/show/106-how-to-use-a-neti-pot-without-dang er sol At 05:36 AM 3/4/2010, you wrote: Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE What was the (I believe it was 2) CS that was good for injection. How would one use CS for injection. I am troubled by sinus infections from time to time. The cs I take does not appear to get to my sius's. I do use a Nebulizer with cs in it. I breath in through mouth and out of nose. When I am done my nose is wet from cs. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org blockedhttp://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html blockedhttp://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: CSSilver wire
Mostly copper. But interestingly enough I ran the number one time and even if it was arsenic or lead 20 ppm CS made from it would meet EPA drinking water standards. Marshall Richard Goodwin wrote: Good question. I suppose it depends on what the other .0001 consists of. Arsenic? Lead? Copper? What? Personally, for the $small, I will go the extra 9 in stuff I make for myself and friends. $4 for enough silver wire to make 50 gallons of CS? Small price, IMO. But I can't really disagree with you. Just feels better to me to go for the 4 nines. Dick *From:* GARY ABEL gajo...@yahoo.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Wed, March 3, 2010 7:58:11 PM *Subject:* Re: CSSilver wire Ok, I have to ask this question...how much difference does it make between .999 and .?. Seems minimal to me. Thanks, Gary Native American style flutes Matted photos by ~ Gajon ~ www.etsy.com/shop/gajon http://www.etsy.com/shop/gajon *From:* cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Wed, March 3, 2010 7:40:32 PM *Subject:* Re: CSSilver wire I don't really see the rationalization for trying to get cheapest price for a one time in a lifetime expenditure. Just Get 'er Done! A single coin will yield all you'll ever use. Canada has produced Silver MAPLE LEAF $5 coins since 1988. Each contains 1 troy ounce of pure 99.99% SILVER and has a $5 face value. Easy to find, and the purest silver coin in the world. Chuck Now Serving: Left d'oeuvres On 3/3/2010 7:00:51 PM, Richard Goodwin (dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com mailto:dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com) wrote: I don't understand how using coins can be cheaper than using any other form of silver. You have to compare purity --- 999 vs You have to compare actual amounts and actual cost. I haven't seen anything in here yet that compares all that. Would like to. Dick - Original Message From: cking...@nycap.rr.com mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 6:27:05 PM Subject: Re: CSSilver wire I use Canadian Silver Coinage. I heat with a propane torch to soften, hammer it out on an anvil to make a thinner sheet, and cut into ribbon for use with tin snips. Chuck If you don't care where you are, you ain't lost! On 3/3/2010 8:12:48 AM, GARY ABEL (gajo...@yahoo.com mailto:gajo...@yahoo.com) wrote: I dunno too much about the prices on silver wire. I've been kind of looking around and thinking of making with the wire as someone told me there is more contact or something. But for now using coins is much cheaper. They last a long time too. The person who first told me about making CS said they'd probably last me forever. Not sure what it takes to wear them down. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCanadian maple leaf coins (UNCLASSIFIED)
Is there any place in Canada to buy Silver Maple Leaf coins direct as I live in Detroit suburbs and can go to Canada some times in Summer. A Detroit coin or stamp store should have the Canadian Maple Leaf silver coins. Why worry about the cost of the coins when you can make your own CS water for pennies ? Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS for injection (UNCLASSIFIED)
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Golden Aldi goldena...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting machine... amazon already said it won't or can't ship to my default address :-( Its also not cheap! And too bad they don't have a video, cause I'd like to see how it works and how to use it. Here you go! Download our demo video (8.1MB)http://hydromedonline.com/HydroPulseWEB_Sm.mov
Re: CSTake a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive
It is attributed to both him and Thomas Jefferson. Marshall Richard Goodwin wrote: Was it Benjamin Franklin who said: “Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.” ? Dick - Original Message From: slickpic...@cox.net slickpic...@cox.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: Annie B Smythe anniebsmy...@gmail.com Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 8:07:03 PM Subject: Re: CSTake a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive I spent 4 years in genetics research at a med school and I agree that GMO concerns are valid based on multiple observed issues; my point was that one couldn't come to that conclusion simply because they had a negative effect on mice. And it looks to me like that's exactly what these companies are doing and the US government and others are skipping down that garden path like a bunch of brainless robots. Ironically, it was only a year ago that more government control was all the rage - and still is in some quarters. TW Annie B Smythe anniebsmy...@gmail.com wrote: = It's not just mice, other animals and even insects have had major problems with GMO crops. Like bees and other beneficial insects. Go to GM Watch website and read the reams of research and studies that have been done. I've been reading about GMO crops for years and I believe they're dangerous to the entire food chain. Not to mention telling farmers when their crops are contaminated with that junk that they're infringing on patents. The companies that made that junk need to be sued for caontaminating other people's fields. I cannot for the life of me figure out how a judge can expect a farmer to control the GMO junk that gets blown into his fields. It's a miscarriage of justice and allowing companies to own genes and plants like that is dangerous to the food security of the entire world, nit just us. And allowing any company to control food supplies is obscene and a Dictatorship in the making. If you can control food and water you can control whole populations and countries. And it looks to me like that's exactly what these companies are doing and the US government and others are skipping down that garden path like a bunch of brainless robots. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh slickpic...@cox.net wrote: I don't know which statement/question you're referring to, but my point is that just because something has a particular effect on mice it's by no means a foregone conclusion that it will have the same effect (or any effect) on humans. Cancer has been stopped many times in mice by many substances, but very few of them have the same effect in humans. Richard Goodwin dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com wrote: = I can't detect any logic in that statement/question... Dick - Original Message From: slickpic...@cox.net slickpic...@cox.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: jr orrilia dallas6...@yahoo.com Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 7:17:41 PM Subject: Re: CSTake a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive It said that their organs eventually shut down, so, if it does that to mice, it will do this to humans also. So if a substance cures cancer in mice it will do it in humans? jr orrilia dallas6...@yahoo.com wrote: = Studies were done on mice that ate GMO foods and died shortly after. It said that their organs eventually shut down, so, if it does that to mice, it will do this to humans also. This would be the perfect plan to make sure humanity remains sick and remain a prisoner of the big pharmaorrilia From: William Corley wcorl...@hughes.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 2:15:41 PM Subject: RE: CSTake a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive You would do well to become better educated on GMO. Bill Corley www.mofoxtrot.com/twinspringsfarm The only thing more powerful than walking your talk is walking your walk without having to talk the talk. -- Alan Cohen -Original Message- From: Steve G [mailto:chube...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 12:05 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTake a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive I have absolutely no concerns about Genetically modified fruits and vegetables. In my mind genetically modified means that there has been an organized hybridization effort as opposed to the natural course of evolution which does the same thing, but by accident rather than by design. Big deal. --- On Wed, 3/3/10, Sunwaterclear - Sunny sunwatercl...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Sunwaterclear - Sunny sunwatercl...@yahoo.com Subject: CSTake a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive To: Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 10:02 AM This is so important that I am reposting it on all the lists I belong to. I think you all know that I am not a sp mmer. I
Re: CSCS for injection (UNCLASSIFIED)
My humidifier has a 4.5 liter tank, so I add 80 ml of 35% H2O2. The recipe I found was in a book was you take 1 gallon of water and add 16 oz of 3% H2O2. Hope that helped. Aldi On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 9:19 PM, Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC robert.j.medw...@us.army.mil wrote: Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE When I post a message for some reason I do not see it in messages I receive from Silver-list so I do not know if message makes it there. I wonder if I went to archives if it would list it, I will have to try. I wonder how much H2o2 to put in nebulizer. 2 drops or what. Bob -Original Message- From: Golden Aldi [mailto:goldena...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 2:34 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS for injection (UNCLASSIFIED) Interesting machine... amazon already said it won't or can't ship to my default address :-( Its also not cheap! And too bad they don't have a video, cause I'd like to see how it works and how to use it. Aldi On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Del d...@altsystem.com wrote: http://www.amazon.com/Grossan-Pulse%C2%AE-Pulsatile-Irrigation-System/dp/B00 12VNZ1W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=hpcqid=1267730510sr=8-1http://www.amazon.com/Grossan-Pulse%C2%AE-Pulsatile-Irrigation-System/dp/B00%0A12VNZ1W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=hpcqid=1267730510sr=8-1 blockedhttp:// www.amazon.com/Grossan-Pulse%C2%AE-Pulsatile-Irrigation-Syste m/dp/B0012VNZ1W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=hpcqid=1267730510sr=8-1 Way to go for sinus irrigation and cleansing. Del - Original Message - From: Golden Aldi blockedmailto:goldena...@gmail.comblockedmailto%3agoldena...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 2:00 PM Subject: Re: CSCS for injection (UNCLASSIFIED) I can highly recommend this!! DMSO is a MUST! I have a nose spray bottle that I filled with 70% CS and 30% DMSO. Then you could put some H2O2 into your nebulizer, and breathe that in! CS is nothing with a little of something else, it seems, especially for sinus problems. I have also been fighting with my sinuses for the past 15 yrs +, but now it seems that I am slowly getting some control over it. I don't expect miracles, only because I've had this ailment for s long, and I've read that the nasal passages can have build up, that it'll take time to knock down those walls. Aldi On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 6:57 PM, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: Have you tried CS with about 5 % DMSO in a neti pot? Using a neti pot to completely flush the sinuses with the mix might just do the trick. http://yoga108.org/pages/show/106-how-to-use-a-neti-pot-without-danger blockedhttp:// yoga108.org/pages/show/106-how-to-use-a-neti-pot-without-dang er sol At 05:36 AM 3/4/2010, you wrote: Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE What was the (I believe it was 2) CS that was good for injection. How would one use CS for injection. I am troubled by sinus infections from time to time. The cs I take does not appear to get to my sius's. I do use a Nebulizer with cs in it. I breath in through mouth and out of nose. When I am done my nose is wet from cs. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org blockedhttp://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html blockedhttp://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE
Re: CSCS for injection (UNCLASSIFIED)
Thanks! its downloading as I write! On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 9:27 PM, Gail Rice gail.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Golden Aldi goldena...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting machine... amazon already said it won't or can't ship to my default address :-( Its also not cheap! And too bad they don't have a video, cause I'd like to see how it works and how to use it. Here you go! Download our demo video (8.1MB)http://hydromedonline.com/HydroPulseWEB_Sm.mov
Re: CSSilver wire
Sorry Marshall, but EPA means absolutely nothing to me. They have determined CO2 to be toxic. Sure, they say oh so little is okay... Okay for me, is to have no trace of any heavy metals or any other toxic element. There's enough of that stuff in the air I breathe and foods I eat. EPA can't brainwash me to think even an itsy bitsy trace is okay. sorry, but I'm tired of people saying that if the EPA, or the FDA, or the UN, or NATO, or what ever lettered org spits out is what we should be believing to be true, cause it just ain't so. I was going to delete this, and just ignore what you wrote, but I just couldn't. I had to respond. Sorry, sorry, sorry, cause I don't want to start any kind of discussion. Aldi On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 9:24 PM, Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.comwrote: Mostly copper. But interestingly enough I ran the number one time and even if it was arsenic or lead 20 ppm CS made from it would meet EPA drinking water standards. Marshall Richard Goodwin wrote: Good question. I suppose it depends on what the other .0001 consists of. Arsenic? Lead? Copper? What? Personally, for the $small, I will go the extra 9 in stuff I make for myself and friends. $4 for enough silver wire to make 50 gallons of CS? Small price, IMO. But I can't really disagree with you. Just feels better to me to go for the 4 nines. Dick *From:* GARY ABEL gajo...@yahoo.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Wed, March 3, 2010 7:58:11 PM *Subject:* Re: CSSilver wire Ok, I have to ask this question...how much difference does it make between .999 and .?. Seems minimal to me. Thanks, Gary Native American style flutes Matted photos by ~ Gajon ~ www.etsy.com/shop/gajon http://www.etsy.com/shop/gajon *From:* cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Wed, March 3, 2010 7:40:32 PM *Subject:* Re: CSSilver wire I don't really see the rationalization for trying to get cheapest price for a one time in a lifetime expenditure. Just Get 'er Done! A single coin will yield all you'll ever use. Canada has produced Silver MAPLE LEAF $5 coins since 1988. Each contains 1 troy ounce of pure 99.99% SILVER and has a $5 face value. Easy to find, and the purest silver coin in the world. Chuck Now Serving: Left d'oeuvres On 3/3/2010 7:00:51 PM, Richard Goodwin (dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.commailto: dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com) wrote: I don't understand how using coins can be cheaper than using any other form of silver. You have to compare purity --- 999 vs You have to compare actual amounts and actual cost. I haven't seen anything in here yet that compares all that. Would like to. Dick - Original Message From: cking...@nycap.rr.com mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 6:27:05 PM Subject: Re: CSSilver wire I use Canadian Silver Coinage. I heat with a propane torch to soften, hammer it out on an anvil to make a thinner sheet, and cut into ribbon for use with tin snips. Chuck If you don't care where you are, you ain't lost! On 3/3/2010 8:12:48 AM, GARY ABEL (gajo...@yahoo.com mailto: gajo...@yahoo.com) wrote: I dunno too much about the prices on silver wire. I've been kind of looking around and thinking of making with the wire as someone told me there is more contact or something. But for now using coins is much cheaper. They last a long time too. The person who first told me about making CS said they'd probably last me forever. Not sure what it takes to wear them down. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com mailto: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com mailto: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com mailto: mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSilver .9999 fine
Subject: RE: CSSilver . fine www.ccsilver.com has very good prices I have don business with them for many yrs. Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. Quailwoodherbal.com
RE: CSSilver wire
[...why we are interested in reducing edge effects?] -Cos electricity is bone idle and will take the line of least resistance...the shortest route between two points...the quickest way to get from 'here' to 'there'. 'Edges' or 'high spots' on electrodes will be the shortest distance between those points and the silver will tend to be 'stripped' from those points moreso than the whole surface of the 'electrode?'. With two 'flat' surfaces electricity will find it harder to find 'edges' or 'high spots' and silver will tend to be 'stripped' from the *entire* surface of the electrodes more evenly, rather than be concentrated at any of those perceived high points. I guess it could be said that round wire electrodes have two 'high spots' also, the length of the two sides of the electrodes directly opposing each other...but then ya can't win em all g. N. From: po...@prodigy.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSilver wire Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 08:55:13 -0800 Hello Ode, Just trying to understand this a little bit more and thinking out loud... I have a SG6 generator that uses flat strips of silver. If I bent the flat strips (just a little) so the edges were slightly further away from each other would that help to minimize the edge effects? Also, could you expand a little on why we are interested in reducing edge effects? Thanks. Tom - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 4:24 AM Subject: Re: CSSilver wire The ridges on the edge concentrate edge discharge, limiting current density without overloading the Nernst Diffusion layer and the centers and backside do almost nothing. Those ridges will dissolve pretty fast making them somewhat better, however. A bit fiddly to mount. IOW It'll take longer to do it right, but you can do it for a very long time...and even if done wrong, the EIS/CS still works. In a pinch with a glass of rainwater and a half dead car battery? I'd use the heck out of them. Ode At 05:12 AM 3/3/2010 -0800, you wrote: I dunno too much about the prices on silver wire. I've been kind of looking around and thinking of making with the wire as someone told me there is more contact or something. But for now using coins is much cheaper. They last a long time too. The person who first told me about making CS said they'd probably last me forever. Not sure what it takes to wear them down. Does anyone know any drawbacks to using the silver coins? Thanks, Gary -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com _ Link all your email accounts and social updates with Hotmail. Find out now. http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/oneinbox?ocid=T162MSN05A0710G
Re: CSGMO foods
So Not Man owns 90% of all seed genes. Some of them are engineered to be sterile, so you have to buy and buy. BTW Monsanto created DDT, Agent Orange and Aspartame. Do you want such people in charge of what you eat? Seeds guaranteed non GMO and un So Not Man tainted. Deadline for orders March 10 www.fedcoseeds.com If you are planting and haven't bought seeds yet, these are the people to buy from! No affiliations - wish there were! with love and hope sunny A peek into our world.. Feed the Future - Forest gardens - Sustainable Lifetime Food for All Feed the Future- The blog In depth articles - forest gardens, natural wellness, human consciousness WHAT has to happen for us to evolve and emerge? Follow us on Twitter - www.twitter.com/return2earth Wellness v pharma, free energy v oil, own grown v processed food, community v nuclear, natural building v concrete, consciousness v asleep Info on what's going on and alternative and natural technologies for a simpler life Tune in and friend us on Facebook - Pierre Soleil return to earth From: Golden Aldi goldena...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, March 4, 2010 2:23:52 PM Subject: Re: CSGMO foods Steve, It's not GMO involvement, that kills, but Monsanto's pesticides... its on the plant, in the soil and IN the plant. Who owns ScienceDaily, anyway. Aldi On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 4:11 AM, Steve G chube...@yahoo.com wrote: There are two main theories about the bee population problem. One is a nasty parasite - read about promising developments at this site - http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/04/090414084627.htm There is also a theory that certain pesticides interfere with the honeybees' ability to find their way home. Having some trouble finding a site for that. No evidence of GMO involvement. Steve --- On Wed, 3/3/10, djphe...@att.net djphe...@att.net wrote: From: djphe...@att.net djphe...@att.net Subject: CSGMO foods To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 9:50 PM Makes me wonder if the GMO food is what has affected the bee population? Something to look into, if it's truly affecting mice and pigs this way. Debbie
Re: CSColloid Master??
Golden Aldi wrote: Sol, :-) I'm sold! LOL, just keep in mind that it may take a bit of experimentation to find the best amount to leave for seeding vs time reduction in processing. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CS[List Owner] GMO, etc...
Hi folks, Please keep in mind that this is not the venue in which to actively educate on the topic of GMO contamination of the food supply, as critical a topic as it is. Let's remember not to discuss politics-related heads-up messages on the main list... more than a teeny bit, okay? The OT list is available for deeper exploration. I hope Steve will see the comments and be motivated to examine the topic further. There is a serious difference between using gene splicing technology and traditional (and safe) hybridization methods, both in the stability and safety of the results and in the outcomes being designed for. I have yet to hear anything convincing to counter the widespread condemnation of terminator seeds and roundup ready crops, to name two of the technologies at issue, that seems to be found everywhere except in corporate media and government sources. I'm open to being influenced, but I start from a position of being fairly concerned about it. Be well, Mike Devour silver-list owner [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSilver .9999 fine
Tel Tofflemire wrote: * **Subject:* RE: CSSilver . fine *www.ccsilver.com* http://www.ccsilver.com has very good prices I have don business with them for many yrs. Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. Quailwoodherbal.com */ /* That is where I bought my silver sheets for years, but they dropped fine silver and only carry sterling now. I don't know about the wire. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGMO foods
Here's another: http://www.arkinstitute.com/ Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Sunwaterclear - Sunny wrote: So Not Man owns 90% of all seed genes. Some of them are engineered to be sterile, so you have to buy and buy.. BTW Monsanto created DDT, Agent Orange and Aspartame. Do you want such people in charge of what you eat? Seeds guaranteed non GMO and un So Not Man tainted. Deadline for orders March 10 www.fedcoseeds.com http://www.fedcoseeds.com If you are planting and haven't bought seeds yet, these are the people to buy from! No affiliations - wish there were! with love and hope sunny */A peek into our world/*.. Feed the Future - Forest gardens - Sustainable Lifetime Food for All *Feed the Future-* *The blog* In depth articles *-* forest gardens, natural wellness, human consciousness WHAT has to happen for us to evolve and emerge? http://www.pierresoleil.com/ourblog /**/ /*Follow us on Twitter - **www.twitter.com/return2earth* http://www.twitter.com/return2earth Wellness v pharma, free energy v oil, own grown v processed food, community v nuclear, natural building v concrete, consciousness v asleep *Info on what's going on and alternative and natural technologies for a simpler life*/ /Tune in and friend us on *Facebook* http://www.facebook.com/return2earth- Pierre Soleil return to earth/ // *From:* Golden Aldi goldena...@gmail.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Thu, March 4, 2010 2:23:52 PM *Subject:* Re: CSGMO foods Steve, It's not GMO involvement, that kills, but Monsanto's pesticides... its on the plant, in the soil and IN the plant. Who owns ScienceDaily, anyway. Aldi On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 4:11 AM, Steve G chube...@yahoo.com mailto:chube...@yahoo.com wrote: There are two main theories about the bee population problem. One is a nasty parasite - read about promising developments at this site - http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/04/090414084627.htm There is also a theory that certain pesticides interfere with the honeybees' ability to find their way home. Having some trouble finding a site for that. No evidence of GMO involvement. Steve --- On *Wed, 3/3/10, djphe...@att.net mailto:djphe...@att.net /djphe...@att.net mailto:djphe...@att.net/* wrote: From: djphe...@att.net mailto:djphe...@att.net djphe...@att.net mailto:djphe...@att.net Subject: CSGMO foods To: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 9:50 PM Makes me wonder if the GMO food is what has affected the bee population? Something to look into, if it's truly affecting mice and pigs this way. Debbie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSilver wire
On 3/4/2010 12:57:33 PM, Golden Aldi (goldena...@gmail.com) wrote: Thanks for clarifying, Chuck! How clean should the anvil be, since I'll have to clean it before my husband hammers the coin. Now this is just me... Anvil...reasonably clean...don't really worry about it...good to knock off the surface rust, if any. Come to think of it you don't even have to do this flattening thing at all. I just wanted to make silver ribbons (narrow thin strips of silver). You could hacksaw strips out of the coins. You could just use whole coins. I don't live in Canada, but I suppose I could possibly get one over here in Europe. Almost any coin dealer or even ebay ie: http://tinyurl.com/ydbc29d for example. Remember: one time initial investment. The part I didn't quite understand was the last part, after you make a thinner sheet, like cutting into the ribbon? and what's a tin snip? A tinsnip is a heavy duty scissors designed for sheet metal cutting. The tool clerk will know (and so will your husband). I also don't know how thick the coin is to begin with, since all currencies have their own sizes, and then how thin is too thin, and how thick should it not be. I don't know if it would make much of a difference. If you pound it out to about 3 times its original diameter, it should be easy enough to cut with the snips. Not important the thickness, more important the workability. haven't experimented with any of this stuff yet, and would like to learn from those with experience, so I hope you won't mind me asking, what might seem as mundane questions :-) Thanks in Advance! Aldi Oh, you also mentioned, that they last longer than the wires or strips. Why would that be? The coins are a full ounce. That's a lot of silver for CS. This will last you forever... Does it have anything to do with the total area, like the larger it is, the better the energy is dispersed? And I'm trying to think of what someone said about brewing in the sun and adding something to it for the stirring motion? That's Ode's idea. A black area on the jar in the sun will heat higher/faster than the rest of the area, starting a thermal difference and thus thermal stirring. Chuck Ifyoucanreadthis,youspendtoomuchtimefiguringouts. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS for injection (UNCLASSIFIED)
Tony, Do you add any CS to the Vit.C/bicarb mixture? Bob - Original Message - From: Tony Moody a...@new.co.za To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 10:38 AM Subject: Re: CSCS for injection (UNCLASSIFIED) Hi Bob, Nasal flushing. I've had great success using a mix of vit C and Bicarb. What I'm doing is 2g ascorbic acid powder plus a teaspoonful of bicarb in a cup of warm water. Stir well. I do many flushes at a time. use a 50ml syringe with a short length of silicon tube and do one nostril, snort out, then the other, over and and over til the cup is done. This is profoundly better than doing one or two nostril flushes. OK, Tony On 4 Mar 2010 at 7:36, Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC wrote about : Subject : CSCS for injection (UNCLASSIFIED) Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE What was the (I believe it was 2) CS that was good for injection. How would one use CS for injection. I am troubled by sinus infections from time to time. The cs I take does not appear to get to my sius's. I do use a Nebulizer with cs in it. I breath in through mouth and out of nose. When I am done my nose is wet from cs. This also does not help my Sinus's. I was wondering about injections of CS. How much how often and what kind and why only certain Ones were for injection. I usually get rid of problem with an antibiotic. The nebulizer does help me with by problem of getting Chest colds or worse. Bob Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSSupport for Greg Caton/AltCancer
All, From Greg Caton's spouse, I received a request for letters of support, to be sent to the judge (Melancon) via the attorney (McCann). Those familiar with altcancer.com may wish to write. I intend to do so. M. Dudley posted a link to an interview with G. Caton's spouse a month or so ago, by Mike Adams. It's worth hearing. Randal P. McCann Attorney At Law 1005 Lafayette Street P.O. Box 3685 Lafayette, LA 70502 Tel: 337-232-1255 Fax: 337-232-1268 Judge Tucker Melancon Thank you, Cathryn Caton Alpha Omega Labs -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCanadian maple leaf coins (UNCLASSIFIED)
Bob Why not just buy good old American Eagles?--They are 9997 pure bulk silver dollars. Made in the USA. You can find them in any coin shop or even on eBay. Dave On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC robert.j.medw...@us.army.mil wrote: Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE Do we have any Canadians on the list. Is there any place in Canada to buy Silver Maple Leaf coins direct as I live in Detroit suburbs and can go to Canada some times in Summer. If I bought a cheap roller for making jewelry I could roll the coins So the surface area is greater or just hang 2 in the water. Looking for a way to buy coins cheaper. Bob Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE
Re: CSCanadian maple leaf coins (UNCLASSIFIED)
Straining at knats and swallowing camels here:) Actually the Eagle is gold:) Dave Darrin wrote: Bob Why not just buy good old American Eagles?--They are 9997 pure bulk silver dollars. Made in the USA. You can find them in any coin shop or even on eBay. Dave On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC robert.j.medw...@us.army.mil mailto:robert.j.medw...@us.army.mil wrote: Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE Do we have any Canadians on the list. Is there any place in Canada to buy Silver Maple Leaf coins direct as I live in Detroit suburbs and can go to Canada some times in Summer. If I bought a cheap roller for making jewelry I could roll the coins So the surface area is greater or just hang 2 in the water. Looking for a way to buy coins cheaper. Bob Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE
Re: CSCanadian maple leaf coins (UNCLASSIFIED)
I meant except when they are gold:) Craig Chamberlin wrote: Straining at knats and swallowing camels here:) Actually the Eagle is gold:) Dave Darrin wrote: Bob Why not just buy good old American Eagles?--They are 9997 pure bulk silver dollars. Made in the USA. You can find them in any coin shop or even on eBay. Dave On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC robert.j.medw...@us.army.mil mailto:robert.j.medw...@us.army.mil wrote: Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE Do we have any Canadians on the list. Is there any place in Canada to buy Silver Maple Leaf coins direct as I live in Detroit suburbs and can go to Canada some times in Summer. If I bought a cheap roller for making jewelry I could roll the coins So the surface area is greater or just hang 2 in the water. Looking for a way to buy coins cheaper. Bob Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4916 (20100304) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com
Re: CSCanadian maple leaf coins (UNCLASSIFIED)
Sorry big guy : http://lynncoins.com/american_eagles.htm It's silver... Chuck Snap snap, grin grin, wink wink, nudge nudge, say no more On 3/4/2010 9:01:44 PM, Craig Chamberlin (craigs...@craigcchamberlin.com) wrote: Straining at knats and swallowing camels here:) Actually the Eagle is gold:) Dave Darrin wrote: Bob Why not just buy good old American Eagles?--They are 9997 pure bulk silver dollars. Made in the USA. You can find them in any coin shop or even on eBay. Dave On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC robert. j.medw...@us.army.mil [link: mailto:robert.j.medw...@us.army.mil] wrote: Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE Do we have any Canadians on the list. Is there any place in Canada to buy Silver Maple Leaf coins direct as I live in Detroit suburbs and can go to Canada some times in Summer. If I bought a cheap roller for making jewelry I could roll the coins So the surface area is greater or just hang 2 in the water. Looking for a way to buy coins cheaper. Bob Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCanadian maple leaf coins (UNCLASSIFIED)
Hmmm, I know, except when they be gold:) Brain blip posted post-post:) cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: Sorry big guy : http://lynncoins.com/american_eagles.htm It's silver... Chuck Snap snap, grin grin, wink wink, nudge nudge, say no more On 3/4/2010 9:01:44 PM, Craig Chamberlin (craigs...@craigcchamberlin.com) wrote: Straining at knats and swallowing camels here:) Actually the Eagle is gold:) Dave Darrin wrote: Bob Why not just buy good old American Eagles?--They are 9997 pure bulk silver dollars. Made in the USA. You can find them in any coin shop or even on eBay. Dave On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC robert. j.medw...@us.army.mil [link: mailto:robert.j.medw...@us.army.mil] wrote: Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE Do we have any Canadians on the list. Is there any place in Canada to buy Silver Maple Leaf coins direct as I live in Detroit suburbs and can go to Canada some times in Summer. If I bought a cheap roller for making jewelry I could roll the coins So the surface area is greater or just hang 2 in the water. Looking for a way to buy coins cheaper. Bob Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4916 (20100304) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com
Re: CSCanadian maple leaf coins (UNCLASSIFIED)
Craig I owned a thousand and two silver eagles. I sold one thousand of them and kept the two that hang in my brewing jar. They definitely are not Gold. There are Gold Eagles but that is not what I'm refering to. Dave On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 6:01 PM, Craig Chamberlin craigs...@craigcchamberlin.com wrote: Straining at knats and swallowing camels here:) Actually the Eagle is gold:) Dave Darrin wrote: Bob Why not just buy good old American Eagles?--They are 9997 pure bulk silver dollars. Made in the USA. You can find them in any coin shop or even on eBay. Dave On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC robert.j.medw...@us.army.mil wrote: Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE Do we have any Canadians on the list. Is there any place in Canada to buy Silver Maple Leaf coins direct as I live in Detroit suburbs and can go to Canada some times in Summer. If I bought a cheap roller for making jewelry I could roll the coins So the surface area is greater or just hang 2 in the water. Looking for a way to buy coins cheaper. Bob Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE
CSlakota rounds- silver coins (unclassified)
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Re: CSCS for injection (UNCLASSIFIED)
Hi Bob, Sinus flush with CS. Yes I have done that, but not usually. Just used CS/EIS to replace the water. It may do some extra good. Trouble is that CS battles to penetrate snot so I guess it would benefit cleaned sinus surfaces but its not going to do much against anything with a cover layer of mucous. Anyway I think it should be an excellent adjunct and will use CS/EIS as the 'water' in future. I think it was Brooks Bradley who instigated this idea of VitC and Bicarb solution. Hey, adding CS is worth a try if the sinus tissues are inflamed or infected. It would be good to leave some silver soaked into the mucous, just lurking about to zap any microbes that emerge. Maybe silver chloride would be better here, I guess the silver chloride 'salt solution' may penetrate the mucous better that plain CS? Anyone know? Someone said silver chloride is only 1/10 effective compared to CS/EIS. Sodium chloride solution would work well as a mucous penetrant. I've also used a small amount of H2O2 added ( just enough to foam slightly on the tongue). But the gains are small in my case, in terms of heavy duty flushing out dust and mould . Should be good for controlling infection. Thinks: maybe a daily single flush of Vitc and Bicarb in CS with a few drops of H2O2 and Xylitol would work well to keep the passages clean and well maintained. Could add some DMSO to that too. In my limited experience the least involved and most effective is VitC and Bicarb weak warm solution for a cleanout. And it loosened old crusted bloody scabby black stuff . But only after many flushes and blows. OK, Tony On 4 Mar 2010 at 17:18, Bob Banever wrote about : Subject : Re: CSCS for injection (UNCLASSIFIED) Tony, Do you add any CS to the Vit.C/bicarb mixture? Bob - Original Message - From: Tony Moody a...@new.co.za To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 10:38 AM Subject: Re: CSCS for injection (UNCLASSIFIED) Hi Bob, Nasal flushing. I've had great success using a mix of vit C and Bicarb. What I'm doing is 2g ascorbic acid powder plus a teaspoonful of bicarb in a cup of warm water. Stir well. I do many flushes at a time. use a 50ml syringe with a short length of silicon tube and do one nostril, snort out, then the other, over and and over til the cup is done. This is profoundly better than doing one or two nostril flushes. OK, Tony On 4 Mar 2010 at 7:36, Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC wrote about : Subject : CSCS for injection (UNCLASSIFIED) Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE What was the (I believe it was 2) CS that was good for injection. How would one use CS for injection. I am troubled by sinus infections from time to time. The cs I take does not appear to get to my sius's. I do use a Nebulizer with cs in it. I breath in through mouth and out of nose. When I am done my nose is wet from cs. This also does not help my Sinus's. I was wondering about injections of CS. How much how often and what kind and why only certain Ones were for injection. I usually get rid of problem with an antibiotic. The nebulizer does help me with by problem of getting Chest colds or worse. Bob Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSilver .9999 fine
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