Re: CSKidney Failure
Yes me too - I have a loved one with the same - Original Message - From: 2 Words Production 2wordsproduct...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 5:49 PM Subject: CSKidney Failure Hi, For a loved one, seeking to help her with failing kindeys. Does anyone know of any type of therapy out there or above there that can be used to clean the blood and support the kidneys - or even regenerate cells? Also - are there any devices that can be used on the kidney area/meridian to alleviate pain? Seeking all good healers out there to help in my quest. Blessings of good health to all, Joy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4734 - Release Date: 01/10/12
Re: Re: CSKidney Failure
First things that come to mind are Ashwaganda, Stinging Nettles, Castor oil packs, mainly green juices, sweeten with apples, Essiac tea is another blood purifier. Vit c Titrating to bowel tolerance. On Jan 11, 2012 4:59am, Jane MacRoss highfie...@internode.on.net wrote: Yes me too - I have a loved one with the same - Original Message - From: 2 Words Production 2wordsproduct...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 5:49 PM Subject: CSKidney Failure Hi, For a loved one, seeking to help her with failing kindeys. Does anyone know of any type of therapy out there or above there that can be used to clean the blood and support the kidneys - or even regenerate cells? Also - are there any devices that can be used on the kidney area/meridian to alleviate pain? Seeking all good healers out there to help in my quest. Blessings of good health to all, Joy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4734 - Release Date: 01/10/12
Re: Re: CSKidney Failure
Thank you :)) - Original Message - From: ajr...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 12:19 AM Subject: Re: Re: CSKidney Failure First things that come to mind are Ashwaganda, Stinging Nettles, Castor oil packs, mainly green juices, sweeten with apples, Essiac tea is another blood purifier. Vit c Titrating to bowel tolerance. On Jan 11, 2012 4:59am, Jane MacRoss highfie...@internode.on.net wrote: Yes me too - I have a loved one with the same - Original Message - From: 2 Words Production 2wordsproduct...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 5:49 PM Subject: CSKidney Failure Hi, For a loved one, seeking to help her with failing kindeys. Does anyone know of any type of therapy out there or above there that can be used to clean the blood and support the kidneys - or even regenerate cells? Also - are there any devices that can be used on the kidney area/meridian to alleviate pain? Seeking all good healers out there to help in my quest. Blessings of good health to all, Joy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4734 - Release Date: 01/10/12 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4734 - Release Date: 01/10/12
Re: CSKidney Failure
I would use zeolite. I know a lady that was on the kidney transplant list to have one of hers replaced, but when she took Natural Cellular Defense (NCD) from Wayora the kidney started working again. Because my father had diabetes I decided to try the NCD on myself before giving it to him. They have a 10 day 'jump start' where you take one bottle that normally lasts a month in just 10 days. I did this, expecting to feel/see something even though I don't have kidney problems. I could not tell any difference at all, so did not give it to my Dad. He did not have kidney issues, but being diabetic I wanted to keep it that way. But the NCD was just too expensive. But I do believe that zeolites have some affinity for kidneys--it's just that I thought the NCD was way over priced and felt that a good effect could be had by taking powdered zeolite. In all my research at the time it seemed that the powdered worked as well as liquid, or that you could make your own liquid by simply adding to water. NCD has a big story about how it is specially handled, but basically all zeolite is the same, just different mesh (size grains). Then my Dad passed away and I didn't experiment anymore with zeolites. Later a friend of mine told me that she'd been to her doctor. She was then 65 and they told her her kidneys were down to 1/3rd capacity. She was told this was 'normal' for someone her age and that they wouldn't give her medicine but would keep a watch on it because if it got worse she'd have to go on dialysis! So I told her about the NCD, but that I also thought the much cheaper powdered zeolite would work too. She ordered some. When she got it she didn't like the feel of it in her mouth by taking it dry, and she didn't like taking it in water (to me it has no taste, just a bit like clay) so she wound up putting it in capsules. She took 6 capsules twice a day. In one month she went back for more tests and the doctors were so surprised because her kidneys were now working at 90% capacity! But they know she is 'into' natural things and told her they didn't want to know what she did. Lol I will say though that there are people on other lists who have said that they have used the powdered zeolite which did not work for them, then went to other companies liquid zeolites which also didn't work, but that when they tried NCD it stopped their kidney problems. So--you may want to experiment with the cheaper powder. If that doesn't work you can go to a liquid zeolite that is cheaper than NCD or skip over to NCD. NCD is a MLM product, which is why it is so expensive. There are those that swear by it, while others get the same benefits by taking just the powder. If you go for powder you want the finest mesh you can get. This stiff will basically melt in your mouth. I had found the cheapest place to buy it at only $3 a pound. That lady told me she used it to brush her teeth with and just ate it off a spoon, but that if you didn't like doing that you just stir some into a glass of water and drink it. That lady no longer has the cheapest price--she went up in price the same as everyone else. It seems that mostly it is around $10 a pound for zeolite, but a pound lasts a long time. In fact, that lady dropped a lot of her different sizes of zeolite and now carries NCD. I guess the profit may be higher. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Yes me too - I have a loved one with the same
RE: CSHello from new member!
Hi Paul, You might consider this one. I've used CS made with it for 11 years now, as needed, for pneumonia, lyme and other tick-borne diseases, cuts, scrapes, sinus infections, etc with excellent results. http://meissnerresearch.com/products/silver-generator Carol Monroe _ From: zzekel...@aol.com [mailto:zzekel...@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 6:19 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHello from new member! In a message dated 1/10/2012 6:00:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, devorah...@yahoo.com writes: Hey everybody. Decided to join because within the last week i've been researching CS nonstop. After a long, frustrating journey trying to figure out my health issues (mostly lifelong asthma, and sinusitis for 3 years) CS hit me like a ton of bricks, and I knew I was on the right track. I'm on my 4th day and the results are miraculous. Just incredible. I just ordered a portable nebulizer to help accelerate the results. And now, probably like most of you, i'm pretty determined to make my own CS. I'm deep in the middle of reading through each manufacturers site. It is a bit of a wild ride but i'm convinced i'll find something. I know i need constant current, probably want an automatic stirrer, etc. Ill search the archives for more info. take care, Paul believe it or not i'm walking on air Hi Paul welcome...You've hit a great group of people here.. I have learned so much since I joined... There are a couple members in the group that sell C S generators... Ask I'm sure they will send you info..I have a silver puppy love it. Sold by Ode on the group... Once again Welcome.Lois _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1416 / Virus Database: 2109/4134 - Release Date: 01/10/12
RE: CSQuality of CS/Colloidal Silver symptoms?
Also, inflammation doesn't necessarily mean infected. Have you tried some of that dry shaving powder that is a depilatory? It is especially for men's beards. Have you tried a different soap? Detergent in your laundry? Anything else that comes in contact with your skin? Have you tried washing your face with distilled water? What you are describing does sound more like a contact dermatitis but could be one of many, many things. PT From: Debbie Phelps [mailto:djphel...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 11:38 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSQuality of CS/Colloidal Silver symptoms? Just some thoughts -- Maybe your symptoms are allergy related. In which case, I don't know if CS will help a lot, except to help prevent secondary infections. I know of some men who cannot shave because their skin is just too sensitive. You might also need more oils in your diet. Debbie On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Erick Blaine erickblaine21-...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello, I recently purchased a CS generator and have been making CS for over 1 month. I use distilled water from the grocery store and utilize the magnetic stir to prevent agglomeration. I also use the 'swap' mode in auto. To make my CS more potent, I have found that cleaning my electrodes and then replacing them selecting 'swap' mode/ manual does a fairly nice job. (I bought a digital meter that reads 37ppm but am unsure if this is total ppm of ionic silver or combined with ionic, colloidal, etc..) My concern is the efficacy of the CS I have been making or if I'm a non-responder to CS. I'm concerned because of the following symptoms I have been experiencing and am hoping to receive some feedback from the group. My skin is dermatitis prone and i was hoping the CS would help. Here are the symptoms: 1. red rash dry skin on eyelids (both) 2. itchy skin on my beard, pimples erupting. cyst also formed after shaving 3. irritated/infected nostrils for over 2 weeks. (I have placed cotton swab of CS in each nostril but still inflamed/infected) 4. pimples on skin not improved I should add that i use CS mostly topically in a spray bottle. Since I've followed the instructions in making my CS, i believe it is of high quality but simply not having positive effects on my skin. It actually seems to be causing rashes, itchiness and no effect on pimples. Any helpful advice you can provide is greatly appreciated. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4736 - Release Date: 01/11/12
RE: CSKidney Failure
Hi Renee, Would you share the contact information for the lady that sells the zeolite? Thanks. PT From: gaiac...@gmail.com [mailto:gaiac...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 8:37 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSKidney Failure I would use zeolite. I know a lady that was on the kidney transplant list to have one of hers replaced, but when she took Natural Cellular Defense (NCD) from Wayora the kidney started working again. Because my father had diabetes I decided to try the NCD on myself before giving it to him. They have a 10 day 'jump start' where you take one bottle that normally lasts a month in just 10 days. I did this, expecting to feel/see something even though I don't have kidney problems. I could not tell any difference at all, so did not give it to my Dad. He did not have kidney issues, but being diabetic I wanted to keep it that way. But the NCD was just too expensive. But I do believe that zeolites have some affinity for kidneys--it's just that I thought the NCD was way over priced and felt that a good effect could be had by taking powdered zeolite. In all my research at the time it seemed that the powdered worked as well as liquid, or that you could make your own liquid by simply adding to water. NCD has a big story about how it is specially handled, but basically all zeolite is the same, just different mesh (size grains). Then my Dad passed away and I didn't experiment anymore with zeolites. Later a friend of mine told me that she'd been to her doctor. She was then 65 and they told her her kidneys were down to 1/3rd capacity. She was told this was 'normal' for someone her age and that they wouldn't give her medicine but would keep a watch on it because if it got worse she'd have to go on dialysis! So I told her about the NCD, but that I also thought the much cheaper powdered zeolite would work too. She ordered some. When she got it she didn't like the feel of it in her mouth by taking it dry, and she didn't like taking it in water (to me it has no taste, just a bit like clay) so she wound up putting it in capsules. She took 6 capsules twice a day. In one month she went back for more tests and the doctors were so surprised because her kidneys were now working at 90% capacity! But they know she is 'into' natural things and told her they didn't want to know what she did. Lol I will say though that there are people on other lists who have said that they have used the powdered zeolite which did not work for them, then went to other companies liquid zeolites which also didn't work, but that when they tried NCD it stopped their kidney problems. So--you may want to experiment with the cheaper powder. If that doesn't work you can go to a liquid zeolite that is cheaper than NCD or skip over to NCD. NCD is a MLM product, which is why it is so expensive. There are those that swear by it, while others get the same benefits by taking just the powder. If you go for powder you want the finest mesh you can get. This stiff will basically melt in your mouth. I had found the cheapest place to buy it at only $3 a pound. That lady told me she used it to brush her teeth with and just ate it off a spoon, but that if you didn't like doing that you just stir some into a glass of water and drink it. That lady no longer has the cheapest price--she went up in price the same as everyone else. It seems that mostly it is around $10 a pound for zeolite, but a pound lasts a long time. In fact, that lady dropped a lot of her different sizes of zeolite and now carries NCD. I guess the profit may be higher. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Yes me too - I have a loved one with the same No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4736 - Release Date: 01/11/12
RE: CSKidney Failure
Joy wrote: For a loved one, seeking to help her with failing kindeys. Does anyone know of any type of therapy out there or above there that can be used to clean the blood and support the kidneys - or even regenerate cells? Also - are there any devices that can be used on the kidney area / meridian to alleviate pain? === Aside from the herbs others have mentioned, in an emergency especially I'd use one or more electromedical devices (LEDs and/or the Tennant Biomodulator) and Laminine. Disclosure: I'm a distributor for Laminine, and don't want to turn this into a sales pitch. Contact me off-list for more information. Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD author, the NEW Rife Handbook (2011) Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy (2004) VoiceBio and Biomodulator certification www.nenahsylver.com http://www.nenahsylver.com/ ; www.rifehandbook.com http://www.rifehandbook.com/
Re: CSQuality of CS/Colloidal Silver symptoms?
PTFerrance wrote: Also, inflammation doesn’t necessarily mean infected. Have you tried some of that dry shaving powder that is a depilatory? It is especially for men’s beards. Have you tried a different soap? Detergent in your laundry? Anything else that comes in contact with your skin? Have you tried washing your face with distilled water? What you are describing does sound more like a contact dermatitis but could be one of many, many things. I have also read that similar acne type irruptions can be due to an allergy reaction to toothpaste. I would suspect mouthwash too. What about hormones? Polyunsaturated fat intake may be a cause also. And as others have suggested, look at the diet. Digestion is very important. Do you eat wheat and gluten? I would be taking CS orally, and also adding a few drops of DMSO to the CS for topical application. I seriously doubt there is any problem with your CS. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Kidney Failure
Thank you everyone who replied. I'm going through the replies slowly and methodically to understand everything and how to apply. Has anyone tried to apply any types of healing electronic devices to a kidney - EMF, scalar or other and seen positive results? Thanks so much for your assistance! Joy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSKidney Failure
I would share if I could--I don't have it anymore. I got rid of it when I saw how she had changed her site and dropped a lot of her zeo products and even her zeo information! She'd really become an NCD distributor and so that was basically all she had on there after her change. When her prices went up so much I wrote asking why and she wrote back saying that her cost of buying bulk zeo had gone up. Originally she had told me she was looking into making her own liquid zeo for sale, but apparently gave that up in favor of just going with NCD. So I would simply Google for powdered zeolite. Check several places for the best price. Some give a lot of BS marketing hype and charge up to $25 a pound! But the basic price range that I found (about 2 years ago) was $10 a pound. And basically all zeo is the same chemical make-up. The only difference is how finely they grind it, so watch out for the scams that go on about how much better theirs is. Wow--I just did a quick search and it seems that most of the powdered zeo is going for FIFTY bucks a pound now! Guess you'll have to do some digging to see if you can get it cheaper. I knew a guy that lived where he could get pure zeolite cat litter. He ground it himself and took that. Don't be snowed by the ones that say 'it's not food grade'. It's all the same, just different grinds/mesh. I the site I had used was www.zeostore.com but that site is gone now! Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Would you share the contact information for the lady that sells the zeolite?
RE: CSWas: Kidney Failure; Is: Electromedicine and why it works
Joy wrote: Thank you everyone who replied. I'm going through the replies slowly and methodically to understand everything and how to apply. Has anyone tried to apply any types of healing electronic devices to a kidney - EMF, scalar or other and seen positive results? == Joy, The entire Appendix C, Healing With Electromedicine and Sound Therapies, is posted on my website and you can download it for free. It provides an excellent overview of electromedical devices, with definitions, graphics, and explanations of how and why various classes of equipment work (including magnetic fields, electrical current, EM fields, etc.). I encourage you and anyone else who's interested, to read this. It has been published worldwide in four different magazines/journals, and has been translated into Korean and German. The link is here: http://www.nenahsylver.com/electromedicine_healing_with_electromedicine.html Best, Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD author, the NEW Rife Handbook (2011) Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy (2004) VoiceBio and Biomodulator certification www.nenahsylver.com http://www.nenahsylver.com/ ; www.rifehandbook.com http://www.rifehandbook.com/
RE: CSKidney Failure
Thanks, Renee. Blessings, PT From: gaiac...@gmail.com [mailto:gaiac...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 10:54 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSKidney Failure I would share if I could--I don't have it anymore. I got rid of it when I saw how she had changed her site and dropped a lot of her zeo products and even her zeo information! She'd really become an NCD distributor and so that was basically all she had on there after her change. When her prices went up so much I wrote asking why and she wrote back saying that her cost of buying bulk zeo had gone up. Originally she had told me she was looking into making her own liquid zeo for sale, but apparently gave that up in favor of just going with NCD. So I would simply Google for powdered zeolite. Check several places for the best price. Some give a lot of BS marketing hype and charge up to $25 a pound! But the basic price range that I found (about 2 years ago) was $10 a pound. And basically all zeo is the same chemical make-up. The only difference is how finely they grind it, so watch out for the scams that go on about how much better theirs is. Wow--I just did a quick search and it seems that most of the powdered zeo is going for FIFTY bucks a pound now! Guess you'll have to do some digging to see if you can get it cheaper. I knew a guy that lived where he could get pure zeolite cat litter. He ground it himself and took that. Don't be snowed by the ones that say 'it's not food grade'. It's all the same, just different grinds/mesh. I the site I had used was www.zeostore.com but that site is gone now! Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Would you share the contact information for the lady that sells the zeolite? No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4736 - Release Date: 01/11/12
Re: CSQuality of CS/Colloidal Silver symptoms?
I purchased total EFA oils to see if that helps w/ inflammation. I have been getting pimples on my forehead and many hardened fatty deposits coming out of the pimples.For shaving i use an electrical shaver sterilize after every use. I also have been putting CS drops in my eye but the eye lids are still red/itchy and now I have an irritation on my left eye lid that itches like pink eye but isn't. What is the suggested dosage of oral CS? Thanks, EB From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 7:18 AM Subject: Re: CSQuality of CS/Colloidal Silver symptoms? PTFerrance wrote: Also, inflammation doesn’t necessarily mean infected. Have you tried some of that dry shaving powder that is a depilatory? It is especially for men’s beards. Have you tried a different soap? Detergent in your laundry? Anything else that comes in contact with your skin? Have you tried washing your face with distilled water? What you are describing does sound more like a contact dermatitis but could be one of many, many things. I have also read that similar acne type irruptions can be due to an allergy reaction to toothpaste. I would suspect mouthwash too. What about hormones? Polyunsaturated fat intake may be a cause also. And as others have suggested, look at the diet. Digestion is very important. Do you eat wheat and gluten? I would be taking CS orally, and also adding a few drops of DMSO to the CS for topical application. I seriously doubt there is any problem with your CS. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSHello from new member!
I would third that, 7 years in and just ordering our first set of silver replacement rods. Todd From: drumr...@stny.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHello from new member! Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 20:43:40 -0600 I second that! My Silver puppy has been making me great CS/EIS for 3 years and the silver rods are still going strong. Saves me a fortune! I generally set it on 'auto' for stuff i'd drink, but can override that with 'manual' for stronger concentration for lotions and such.Be well,Léna On Jan 10, 2012, at 6:00 PM, PTFerrance wrote:You won't go wrong with a SilverPuppy. I have no knowledge of electronics and have wonderful results due to Ode's great unit. PT -Original Message- From: Deborah Gerard [mailto:devorah...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 6:00 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSHello from new member! Big welcome to you Paul...this is an awesome group of people here and you will learn incredible thing's :) Debbie -Original Message- Date: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 5:54:51 pm To: silver-list@eskimo.com From: Paul sprangers psprang...@gmail.com Subject: CSHello from new member! Hey everybody. Decided to join because within the last week i've been researching CS nonstop. After a long, frustrating journey trying to figure out my health issues (mostly lifelong asthma, and sinusitis for 3 years) CS hit me like a ton of bricks, and I knew I was on the right track. I'm on my 4th day and the results are miraculous. Just incredible. I just ordered a portable nebulizer to help accelerate the results. And now, probably like most of you, i'm pretty determined to make my own CS. I'm deep in the middle of reading through each manufacturers site. It is a bit of a wild ride but i'm convinced i'll find something. I know i need constant current, probably want an automatic stirrer, etc. Ill search the archives for more info. take care, Paul -- believe it or not i'm walking on air -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4734 - Release Date: 01/10/12 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4734 - Release Date: 01/10/12
Re: CSHello from new member!
You might want to clarify that you sell this generator that you are endorsing On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Jim Meissner yahoo jpmeiss...@yahoo.comwrote: Hi Paul, ** ** You might consider this one. I’ve used CS made with it for 11 years now, as needed, for pneumonia, lyme and other tick-borne diseases, cuts, scrapes, sinus infections, etc with excellent results. ** ** http://meissnerresearch.com/products/silver-generator ** ** Carol Monroe ** ** -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
CSIonic CS mixed with food?
I am curious if anyone has an opinion or knows of any studies of what effectiveness ionic CS (homemade type) would have if it is first mixed into food before consumption. My impression is that ionic CS is absorbed more by the mucous membranes then anywhere else in the GI tract. So if it combines in the stomach it was still effective when it was drunk. I think mixing it with food might cause it to precipitate out as salts. But I have nothing to back this up and may very well be misinformed. Any thoughts? Scott Adams I bet you know someone who has Chronic Lyme and doesn't realize it yet! www.lyme-resource.com http://www.lyme-resource.com/
RE: CSHello from new member!
If you are going to go this route, you can save roughly $170 by going to Radio Shack, buying a two AA battery holder (270-408), a 4.7K resistor (2160255), 2 AA batteries, and some clip leads (278-1157). You will have to get two 5 inch 0.999 #12 pure silver wire electrodes on line - there are several sources. Using the clip leads, connect one battery holder wire to the top of one silver electrode. With another clip lead, connect the other battery holder wire to the resistor (or just solder the wire to the resistor). With a third clip lead, connect the other resistor wire to the top of the other silver electrode. Use two clothes pins, clip the silver electrodes on either side of a wide mouth quart jar. Fill with steam distilled water to a level just below the clips and let it sit for a day or two. No stirring is needed. You can follow the directions on the Meissnerresearch site. If you don't mind spending the $200, then get a constant current polarity reversing automatic shutoff unit as recommended by the other posts. I just hate to see anyone spend $200 for a couple of batteries and a resistor! --Steve Y. _ From: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com [mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com] On Behalf Of Jim Meissner yahoo Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 7:07 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSHello from new member! Hi Paul, You might consider this one. I've used CS made with it for 11 years now, as needed, for pneumonia, lyme and other tick-borne diseases, cuts, scrapes, sinus infections, etc with excellent results. http://meissnerresearch.com/products/silver-generator Carol Monroe _ From: zzekel...@aol.com [mailto:zzekel...@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 6:19 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHello from new member! In a message dated 1/10/2012 6:00:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, devorah...@yahoo.com writes: Hey everybody. Decided to join because within the last week i've been researching CS nonstop. After a long, frustrating journey trying to figure out my health issues (mostly lifelong asthma, and sinusitis for 3 years) CS hit me like a ton of bricks, and I knew I was on the right track. I'm on my 4th day and the results are miraculous. Just incredible. I just ordered a portable nebulizer to help accelerate the results. And now, probably like most of you, i'm pretty determined to make my own CS. I'm deep in the middle of reading through each manufacturers site. It is a bit of a wild ride but i'm convinced i'll find something. I know i need constant current, probably want an automatic stirrer, etc. Ill search the archives for more info. take care, Paul believe it or not i'm walking on air Hi Paul welcome...You've hit a great group of people here.. I have learned so much since I joined... There are a couple members in the group that sell C S generators... Ask I'm sure they will send you info..I have a silver puppy love it. Sold by Ode on the group... Once again Welcome.Lois _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1416 / Virus Database: 2109/4134 - Release Date: 01/10/12
RE: CSIonic CS mixed with food?
I can tell this...I spray all my berries/celery etcand it not only acts like a perservative but if there is anything bad on the foods it will kill it...Debbie -Original Message- Date: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 1:30:22 pm To: silver-list@eskimo.com From: Adams, M. Scott scott.ad...@avistainc.com Subject: CSIonic CS mixed with food? I am curious if anyone has an opinion or knows of any studies of what effectiveness ionic CS (homemade type) would have if it is first mixed into food before consumption. My impression is that ionic CS is absorbed more by the mucous membranes then anywhere else in the GI tract. So if it combines in the stomach it was still effective when it was drunk. I think mixing it with food might cause it to precipitate out as salts. But I have nothing to back this up and may very well be misinformed. Any thoughts? Scott Adams I bet you know someone who has Chronic Lyme and doesn't realize it yet! www.lyme-resource.com http://www.lyme-resource.com/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSKidney Failure
This is the zeolite that I use.. http://www.amazon.com/Zeolite-Pure-400-powder-Health/dp/B005G6CPHY/ref=sr_1_1?s=hpcie=UTF8qid=1326313603sr=1-1 It is a dry powder and, other than being gritty, isn't unpleasant tasting at all. Lola On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 11:13 AM, PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote: Thanks, Renee. Blessings, PT ** ** *From:* gaiac...@gmail.com [mailto:gaiac...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, January 11, 2012 10:54 AM *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* RE: CSKidney Failure ** ** I would share if I could--I don't have it anymore. I got rid of it when I saw how she had changed her site and dropped a lot of her zeo products and even her zeo information! She'd really become an NCD distributor and so that was basically all she had on there after her change. When her prices went up so much I wrote asking why and she wrote back saying that her cost of buying bulk zeo had gone up. Originally she had told me she was looking into making her own liquid zeo for sale, but apparently gave that up in favor of just going with NCD. So I would simply Google for powdered zeolite. Check several places for the best price. Some give a lot of BS marketing hype and charge up to $25 a pound! But the basic price range that I found (about 2 years ago) was $10 a pound. And basically all zeo is the same chemical make-up. The only difference is how finely they grind it, so watch out for the scams that go on about how much better theirs is. Wow--I just did a quick search and it seems that most of the powdered zeo is going for FIFTY bucks a pound now! Guess you'll have to do some digging to see if you can get it cheaper. I knew a guy that lived where he could get pure zeolite cat litter. He ground it himself and took that. Don't be snowed by the ones that say 'it's not food grade'. It's all the same, just different grinds/mesh. I the site I had used was www.zeostore.com but that site is gone now! Samala, Renee *---Original Message---* Would you share the contact information for the lady that sells the zeolite? No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4736 - Release Date: 01/11/12* ***
Re: CSHello from new member!
I have to second this. There would be no problem with the Meissmer setup if the cost was $25. Otherwise, you are paying a large amount of money for being ignorant. I would endorse the Silver Puppy. If you want large amounts of CS you may want to get a unit that has more volume capability, but make sure you know what you are paying for. Dan On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Steve youngs...@digis.net wrote: If you are going to go this route, you can save roughly $170 by going to Radio Shack, buying a two AA battery holder (270-408), a 4.7K resistor (2160255), 2 AA batteries, and some clip leads (278-1157). You will have to get two 5 inch 0.999 #12 pure silver wire electrodes on line – there are several sources. Using the clip leads, connect one battery holder wire to the top of one silver electrode. With another clip lead, connect the other battery holder wire to the resistor (or just solder the wire to the resistor). With a third clip lead, connect the other resistor wire to the top of the other silver electrode. Use two clothes pins, clip the silver electrodes on either side of a wide mouth quart jar. Fill with steam distilled water to a level just below the clips and let it sit for a day or two. No stirring is needed. You can follow the directions on the Meissnerresearch site. If you don’t mind spending the $200, then get a constant current polarity reversing automatic shutoff unit as recommended by the other posts. I just hate to see anyone spend $200 for a couple of batteries and a resistor! --Steve Y. From: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com [mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com] On Behalf Of Jim Meissner yahoo Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 7:07 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSHello from new member! Hi Paul, You might consider this one. I’ve used CS made with it for 11 years now, as needed, for pneumonia, lyme and other tick-borne diseases, cuts, scrapes, sinus infections, etc with excellent results. http://meissnerresearch.com/products/silver-generator Carol Monroe From: zzekel...@aol.com [mailto:zzekel...@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 6:19 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHello from new member! In a message dated 1/10/2012 6:00:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, devorah...@yahoo.com writes: Hey everybody. Decided to join because within the last week i've been researching CS nonstop. After a long, frustrating journey trying to figure out my health issues (mostly lifelong asthma, and sinusitis for 3 years) CS hit me like a ton of bricks, and I knew I was on the right track. I'm on my 4th day and the results are miraculous. Just incredible. I just ordered a portable nebulizer to help accelerate the results. And now, probably like most of you, i'm pretty determined to make my own CS. I'm deep in the middle of reading through each manufacturers site. It is a bit of a wild ride but i'm convinced i'll find something. I know i need constant current, probably want an automatic stirrer, etc. Ill search the archives for more info. take care, Paul believe it or not i'm walking on air Hi Paul welcome...You've hit a great group of people here.. I have learned so much since I joined... There are a couple members in the group that sell C S generators... Ask I'm sure they will send you info..I have a silver puppy love it. Sold by Ode on the group... Once again Welcome.Lois No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1416 / Virus Database: 2109/4134 - Release Date: 01/10/12 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHello from new member!
Dan Nave wrote: I have to second this. There would be no problem with the Meissmer setup if the cost was $25. Otherwise, you are paying a large amount of money for being ignorant. I would endorse the Silver Puppy. If you want large amounts of CS you may want to get a unit that has more volume capability, but make sure you know what you are paying for. I have to say, I agree with both Dan and Steve. I own both a silverpuppy magnetic stir (older no swap feature) and a Silvergen SG-6 and use them both, can recommend both. Another alternative that costs a bunch less than the Meissner unit is the Colloid Master 777 (I think that is the one), many members of the SilverPets yahoo list own it, and like it. Some people add some method of stirring to it, but that isn't expensive. I have never owned one, so can't report on it, other than to say people who do own it say they like it. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSKidney Failure
Hi Joy, a gentleman from another forum posted his regimen for getting off of dialysis and how it healed his kidneys. Sandy Here it is... Yes Melly--coq10 'was' one of the things I used. I made sure i bought the highest potent stuff I could find. Maybe i went overboard, but heck,,i'm off dialysis. I was on dialysis for 2 years, and seen two of my friends die their at the center. I knew i had to figure out a way of leaving there. I would go every other day, at 6 in the morning-for 5 hours. It doesn't hurt,,but man, afterwards, you felt like you were hit with a mack truck. Fortunately, i knew natural medicine worked, because i used garlic(liquid) to cure my cat of FIP, and the same thing for my dog years later who had parvo,and it cured him too. In both cases, the vet wanted to put them down, but i love animals, and thought that would be like murder. I just read a lot, I have 400-500 books on natural medicine, sooo,don't give me any credit. Other people wrote these books, i just learned from them. yes, you can research on google, kidney disease, and coq10. A dr. Richard Schulze wrote a book saying,,that no one needs to be on dialysis! Research him too, i got his books from Amazon. Ok,,the Coq10 i bought,,is called Liq-Nol. Made by epic4health. Not cheap, at 130.00 a bottle. You can research this, and get 'ubiquinol', not ubiquinone,,more potent. Google all this! The second thing,,er let me say first,,after a while on dialysis,,i decide to go 'against' what the doctors were preaching to me,,NO VITAMINS,,NO HERBS,,VERY LITTLE WATER. FINALLY I THOUGHT TO MYSELF,,DIALYSIS IS 'REMOVING ALL OF THE GOOD STUFF(MINERAL, VITAMINS ETC.) as well as the bad stuff. I was not getting better. I started taking my vitamins etc..and guess what, I immediately noticed the difference. Shortly after, I was discharge from dialysis. My last kidney doctor, a young guy(nephrologist), told me on the sly,,er,,admitted,,that he believed in what i was saying about 'curing' people, but,,in order to protect his job, would not exactly preach it to the other patients! This is the kind of world we live in,,money,,even at the expense of someones life,,is more important than the truth! My first kidney doctor was the one who 'scared' me, into 'not' taking any natural things because it could kill me. I took a chance,,I was right,,he was wrong! Sorry--got sidetracked. The second thing i took-a whole food supplement, a powerful one called Green Vibrance. I get most of my stuff from Amazon, but you can search around for better deals. The third thing I took,,and i think this had a BIG' impact--'ionized water. I see a natural health doctor here in Akron Ohio, so I take 3 gallon jugs to him, because he has a water ionizer. Costs a few bucks a gallon. Those were the 'biggies' that I did. Dr. Schulze uses kidney cleansing herbs, which, i guess i must work, but i didn't follow his exact protocol. I ate lots of garlic, took astragalus-google that, its amazing. I will think of more things I did and get back to you all. The doctor(chiropractor) i see here in Akron, is Dr. Keith Ungar, you can look him up, on YouTube, and he has teaching(no selling) videos. Anyway,,you would think,,the medical guys would be bugging me on how i got off dialysis,,since no ones hardly done it. Conspiracy of Silence,,lol.Anyway,,i'm not a writer, but i hope this helps someone I believe 'everthing, and i mean everything, can be cured with natural medicine. Its just figuring out the right protocol for your particular condition.READ READ READ! Dave --- On Wed, 1/11/12, 2 Words Production 2wordsproduct...@gmail.com wrote: From: 2 Words Production 2wordsproduct...@gmail.com Subject: CSKidney Failure To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, January 11, 2012, 12:49 AM Hi, For a loved one, seeking to help her with failing kindeys. Does anyone know of any type of therapy out there or above there that can be used to clean the blood and support the kidneys - or even regenerate cells? Also - are there any devices that can be used on the kidney area/meridian to alleviate pain? Seeking all good healers out there to help in my quest. Blessings of good health to all, Joy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSKidney Failure
Sandy, According to Traditional Japanese Medicine aduki bean juice is very good for the kidneys. Black beans are good too. The juice is the liquid portion of the beans after you've cooked them for several hours. _ From: Sandy [mailto:hollis302...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 2:50 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSKidney Failure Hi Joy, a gentleman from another forum posted his regimen for getting off of dialysis and how it healed his kidneys. Sandy Here it is... Yes Melly--coq10 'was' one of the things I used. I made sure i bought the highest potent stuff I could find. Maybe i went overboard, but heck,,i'm off dialysis. I was on dialysis for 2 years, and seen two of my friends die their at the center. I knew i had to figure out a way of leaving there. I would go every other day, at 6 in the morning-for 5 hours. It doesn't hurt,,but man, afterwards, you felt like you were hit with a mack truck. Fortunately, i knew natural medicine worked, because i used garlic(liquid) to cure my cat of FIP, and the same thing for my dog years later who had parvo,and it cured him too. In both cases, the vet wanted to put them down, but i love animals, and thought that would be like murder. I just read a lot, I have 400-500 books on natural medicine, sooo,don't give me any credit. Other people wrote these books, i just learned from them. yes, you can research on google, kidney disease, and coq10. A dr. Richard Schulze wrote a book saying,,that no one needs to be on dialysis! Research him too, i got his books from Amazon. Ok,,the Coq10 i bought,,is called Liq-Nol. Made by epic4health. Not cheap, at 130.00 a bottle. You can research this, and get 'ubiquinol', not ubiquinone,,more potent. Google all this! The second thing,,er let me say first,,after a while on dialysis,,i decide to go 'against' what the doctors were preaching to me,,NO VITAMINS,,NO HERBS,,VERY LITTLE WATER. FINALLY I THOUGHT TO MYSELF,,DIALYSIS IS 'REMOVING ALL OF THE GOOD STUFF(MINERAL, VITAMINS ETC.) as well as the bad stuff. I was not getting better. I started taking my vitamins etc..and guess what, I immediately noticed the difference. Shortly after, I was discharge from dialysis. My last kidney doctor, a young guy(nephrologist), told me on the sly,,er,,admitted,,that he believed in what i was saying about 'curing' people, but,,in order to protect his job, would not exactly preach it to the other patients! This is the kind of world we live in,,money,,even at the expense of someones life,,is more important than the truth! My first kidney doctor was the one who 'scared' me, into 'not' taking any natural things because it could kill me. I took a chance,,I was right,,he was wrong! Sorry--got sidetracked. The second thing i took-a whole food supplement, a powerful one called Green Vibrance. I get most of my stuff from Amazon, but you can search around for better deals. The third thing I took,,and i think this had a BIG' impact--'ionized water. I see a natural health doctor here in Akron Ohio, so I take 3 gallon jugs to him, because he has a water ionizer. Costs a few bucks a gallon. Those were the 'biggies' that I did. Dr. Schulze uses kidney cleansing herbs, which, i guess i must work, but i didn't follow his exact protocol. I ate lots of garlic, took astragalus-google that, its amazing. I will think of more things I did and get back to you all. The doctor(chiropractor) i see here in Akron, is Dr. Keith Ungar, you can look him up, on YouTube, and he has teaching(no selling) videos. Anyway,,you would think,,the medical guys would be bugging me on how i got off dialysis,,since no ones hardly done it. Conspiracy of Silence,,lol.Anyway,,i'm not a writer, but i hope this helps someone I believe 'everthing, and i mean everything, can be cured with natural medicine. Its just figuring out the right protocol for your particular condition.READ READ READ! Dave --- On Wed, 1/11/12, 2 Words Production 2wordsproduct...@gmail.com wrote: From: 2 Words Production 2wordsproduct...@gmail.com Subject: CSKidney Failure To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, January 11, 2012, 12:49 AM Hi, For a loved one, seeking to help her with failing kindeys. Does anyone know of any type of therapy out there or above there that can be used to clean the blood and support the kidneys - or even regenerate cells? Also - are there any devices that can be used on the kidney area/meridian to alleviate pain? Seeking all good healers out there to help in my quest. Blessings of good health to all, Joy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSKidney Failure
Congratulations Dave, Sounds like you did ! Good job, well done. I try to help people with Herbal Natural foods also, rather than pills treatments that sometimes work , can anyone tell if they are working? I really like your testimony. Now stay with what you know. Tel Tofflemire , Herbalist Albuquerque, New Mexico 505-899-3489 From: Sandy hollis302...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 3:49 PM Subject: Re: CSKidney Failure Hi Joy, a gentleman from another forum posted his regimen for getting off of dialysis and how it healed his kidneys. Sandy Here it is... Yes Melly--coq10 'was' one of the things I used. I made sure i bought the highest potent stuff I could find. Maybe i went overboard, but heck,,i'm off dialysis. I was on dialysis for 2 years, and seen two of my friends die their at the center. I knew i had to figure out a way of leaving there. I would go every other day, at 6 in the morning-for 5 hours. It doesn't hurt,,but man, afterwards, you felt like you were hit with a mack truck. Fortunately, i knew natural medicine worked, because i used garlic(liquid) to cure my cat of FIP, and the same thing for my dog years later who had parvo,and it cured him too. In both cases, the vet wanted to put them down, but i love animals, and thought that would be like murder. I just read a lot, I have 400-500 books on natural medicine, sooo,don't give me any credit. Other people wrote these books, i just learned from them. yes, you can research on google, kidney disease, and coq10. A dr. Richard Schulze wrote a book saying,,that no one needs to be on dialysis! Research him too, i got his books from Amazon. Ok,,the Coq10 i bought,,is called Liq-Nol. Made by epic4health. Not cheap, at 130.00 a bottle. You can research this, and get 'ubiquinol', not ubiquinone,,more potent. Google all this! The second thing,,er let me say first,,after a while on dialysis,,i decide to go 'against' what the doctors were preaching to me,,NO VITAMINS,,NO HERBS,,VERY LITTLE WATER. FINALLY I THOUGHT TO MYSELF,,DIALYSIS IS 'REMOVING ALL OF THE GOOD STUFF(MINERAL, VITAMINS ETC.) as well as the bad stuff. I was not getting better. I started taking my vitamins etc..and guess what, I immediately noticed the difference. Shortly after, I was discharge from dialysis. My last kidney doctor, a young guy(nephrologist), told me on the sly,,er,,admitted,,that he believed in what i was saying about 'curing' people, but,,in order to protect his job, would not exactly preach it to the other patients! This is the kind of world we live in,,money,,even at the expense of someones life,,is more important than the truth! My first kidney doctor was the one who 'scared' me, into 'not' taking any natural things because it could kill me. I took a chance,,I was right,,he was wrong! Sorry--got sidetracked. The second thing i took-a whole food supplement, a powerful one called Green Vibrance. I get most of my stuff from Amazon, but you can search around for better deals. The third thing I took,,and i think this had a BIG' impact--'ionized water. I see a natural health doctor here in Akron Ohio, so I take 3 gallon jugs to him, because he has a water ionizer. Costs a few bucks a gallon. Those were the 'biggies' that I did. Dr. Schulze uses kidney cleansing herbs, which, i guess i must work, but i didn't follow his exact protocol. I ate lots of garlic, took astragalus-google that, its amazing. I will think of more things I did and get back to you all. The doctor(chiropractor) i see here in Akron, is Dr. Keith Ungar, you can look him up, on YouTube, and he has teaching(no selling) videos. Anyway,,you would think,,the medical guys would be bugging me on how i got off dialysis,,since no ones hardly done it. Conspiracy of Silence,,lol.Anyway,,i'm not a writer, but i hope this helps someone I believe 'everthing, and i mean everything, can be cured with natural medicine. Its just figuring out the right protocol for your particular condition.READ READ READ! Dave --- On Wed, 1/11/12, 2 Words Production 2wordsproduct...@gmail.com wrote: From: 2 Words Production 2wordsproduct...@gmail.com Subject: CSKidney Failure To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, January 11, 2012, 12:49 AM Hi, For a loved one, seeking to help her with failing kindeys. Does anyone know of any type of therapy out there or above there that can be used to clean the blood and support the kidneys - or even regenerate cells? Also - are there any devices that can be used on the kidney area/meridian to alleviate pain? Seeking all good healers out there to help in my quest. Blessings of good health to all, Joy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions:
Re: CSHello from new member!
Also, from what i've heard, the Meissner setup takes quite a long time to make CS (I've tried that CS and found it no better than what I make with my Silver Puppy) The Silver Puppy only takes 3+ hours. Be well, Léna On Jan 11, 2012, at 3:53 PM, Dan Nave wrote: I have to second this. There would be no problem with the Meissmer setup if the cost was $25. Otherwise, you are paying a large amount of money for being ignorant. I would endorse the Silver Puppy. If you want large amounts of CS you may want to get a unit that has more volume capability, but make sure you know what you are paying for. Dan On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Steve youngs...@digis.net wrote: If you are going to go this route, you can save roughly $170 by going to Radio Shack, buying a two AA battery holder (270-408), a 4.7K resistor (2160255), 2 AA batteries, and some clip leads (278-1157). You will have to get two 5 inch 0.999 #12 pure silver wire electrodes on line – there are several sources. Using the clip leads, connect one battery holder wire to the top of one silver electrode. With another clip lead, connect the other battery holder wire to the resistor (or just solder the wire to the resistor). With a third clip lead, connect the other resistor wire to the top of the other silver electrode. Use two clothes pins, clip the silver electrodes on either side of a wide mouth quart jar. Fill with steam distilled water to a level just below the clips and let it sit for a day or two. No stirring is needed. You can follow the directions on the Meissnerresearch site. If you don’t mind spending the $200, then get a constant current polarity reversing automatic shutoff unit as recommended by the other posts. I just hate to see anyone spend $200 for a couple of batteries and a resistor! --Steve Y. From: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com [mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com ] On Behalf Of Jim Meissner yahoo Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 7:07 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSHello from new member! Hi Paul, You might consider this one. I’ve used CS made with it for 11 years now, as needed, for pneumonia, lyme and other tick-borne diseases, cuts, scrapes, sinus infections, etc with excellent results. http://meissnerresearch.com/products/silver-generator Carol Monroe From: zzekel...@aol.com [mailto:zzekel...@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 6:19 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHello from new member! In a message dated 1/10/2012 6:00:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, devorah...@yahoo.com writes: Hey everybody. Decided to join because within the last week i've been researching CS nonstop. After a long, frustrating journey trying to figure out my health issues (mostly lifelong asthma, and sinusitis for 3 years) CS hit me like a ton of bricks, and I knew I was on the right track. I'm on my 4th day and the results are miraculous. Just incredible. I just ordered a portable nebulizer to help accelerate the results. And now, probably like most of you, i'm pretty determined to make my own CS. I'm deep in the middle of reading through each manufacturers site. It is a bit of a wild ride but i'm convinced i'll find something. I know i need constant current, probably want an automatic stirrer, etc. Ill search the archives for more info. take care, Paul believe it or not i'm walking on air Hi Paul welcome...You've hit a great group of people here.. I have learned so much since I joined... There are a couple members in the group that sell C S generators... Ask I'm sure they will send you info..I have a silver puppy love it. Sold by Ode on the group... Once again Welcome.Lois No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1416 / Virus Database: 2109/4134 - Release Date: 01/10/12 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSKidney Failure
Hi Joy, I bought a South African device to alleviate pain and promote healing rate for £1500 after a suffered a broken leg that turned black and swole to twice its size for several months, and that did help, but the electrodes are a real bother to stick on every time I want to use it. So I recently bought a Painsolv pen for £99 (after submitting a form for VAT tax exemption due to chronic and unstopping pain for several years with RTA injuries). The company I got it from is called http://www.stressnomore.co.uk/pd/Painsolv_80822.html and it is really good at stopping pain, better than my other machine actually, as the pain I have suffered from 2 frozen shoulders in addition to my RTA injuries, one occurring straight after the other, has been absolutely excruciating and deeply debilitating, just like having knives screwed around deep inside my body and touching all the nerves, this pain has gone on for several years, and since I got the painsolv about a week ago, the pain has gone down 80%, it is absolutely fantastic. I know kidney pain is bad, especially after lithotripsy, when they just give you a couple of paracetamol and enjoy watching you hop around in excruciating pain for a week or so afterwards, without providing any morphine, just in case you get addicted, but an mergency doctor I rang to visit my flat give me some rubbish called tramadol that is absolutely guaranteed to permanently damage your kidneys, (while morphine would not). Needless to say I did not use it all. Anyway, the painsolv stimulates healing too, it is not like a tens. I think it stimulates production of ATP for healing and new cell growth, and produces masses of dopamine or whatever it is called to quell the pain, and it really works very well. With regards, Dave Glover On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 6:49 AM, 2 Words Production 2word product...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, For a loved one, seeking to help her with failing kindeys. Does anyone know of any type of therapy out there or above there that can be used to clean the blood and support the kidneys - or even regenerate cells? Also - are there any devices that can be used on the kidney area/meridian to alleviate pain? Seeking all good healers out there to help in my quest. Blessings of good health to all, Joy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-request@**eskimo.com silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com ?subject=**unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/**silver-list@eskimo.com/** maillist.htmlhttp://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-list@**eskimo.comsilver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHello from new member!
I have a Colloid Master -- have used it just about non-stop for almost ten years. It's a great unit and you can see it at www.wishgranted.com. MA From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, January 11, 2012 4:00:42 PM Subject: Re: CSHello from new member! I have to say, I agree with both Dan and Steve. I own both a silverpuppy magnetic stir (older no swap feature) and a Silvergen SG-6 and use them both, can recommend both. Another alternative that costs a bunch less than the Meissner unit is the Colloid Master 777 (I think that is the one), many members of the SilverPets yahoo list own it, and like it. Some people add some method of stirring to it, but that isn't expensive. I have never owned one, so can't report on it, other than to say people who do own it say they like it. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSKidney Failure
How about Hulda Clark's parsley tea? I used this before IV Chelations as the kidneys working right removes the junk that chelation breaks loose. Clark required patients urine output to be greater than 32 ounces per day before she would treat them. Parsley tea worked for me. Brickey In a message dated 1/11/2012 7:12:44 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, nenahsyl...@cox.net writes: . Does anyone know of any type of therapy out there or above there that can be used to clean the blood and support the kidneys - or even regenerate cells?
RE: CSKidney Failure
Hi Brickey, Did you use the Italian parsley or the curley leaf parsley. It is a great diuretic. Thanks. PT From: brick...@aol.com [mailto:brick...@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 9:19 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSKidney Failure How about Hulda Clark's parsley tea? I used this before IV Chelations as the kidneys working right removes the junk that chelation breaks loose. Clark required patients urine output to be greater than 32 ounces per day before she would treat them. Parsley tea worked for me. Brickey In a message dated 1/11/2012 7:12:44 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, nenahsyl...@cox.net writes: . Does anyone know of any type of therapy out there or above there that can be used to clean the blood and support the kidneys - or even regenerate cells? No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4737 - Release Date: 01/11/12
RE: CSHello from new member!
It's no better because all LVDC units produce the same stuff...a predominantly ionic silver product. One product or unit only produces the 'best?' in the eyes of the producer or manufacturer to capture the market. 4 or 14 hours, it doesn't matter, you'll still end up with a similar product, just depends on how fastidious a person is as to how good the quality of that product will be. Quality?...clear/yellow as opposed to grey/black, mud/gravel laying in the bottom of the storage vessel over time as opposed to nil evident, stuff floating on the surface, anything added to the product to keep any particles present suspended in solution etc etc. Clever and honest marketers don't push how great *their* unit is, they don't need to 'mislead'. Mine only takes an hour and a half most times to produce a litre , time isn't the important thing despite what I read about the longer it takes the smaller the 'particles?' will be. Disclaimer: My opinion based on several years experience and research...FWIW. N. From: drumr...@stny.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHello from new member! Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 18:37:24 -0600 Also, from what i've heard, the Meissner setup takes quite a long time to make CS (I've tried that CS and found it no better than what I make with my Silver Puppy) The Silver Puppy only takes 3+ hours.Be well,Léna On Jan 11, 2012, at 3:53 PM, Dan Nave wrote:I have to second this. There would be no problem with the Meissmer setup if the cost was $25. Otherwise, you are paying a large amount of money for being ignorant. I would endorse the Silver Puppy. If you want large amounts of CS you may want to get a unit that has more volume capability, but make sure you know what you are paying for. Dan On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Steve youngs...@digis.net wrote: If you are going to go this route, you can save roughly $170 by going to Radio Shack, buying a two AA battery holder (270-408), a 4.7K resistor (2160255), 2 AA batteries, and some clip leads (278-1157). You will have to get two 5 inch 0.999 #12 pure silver wire electrodes on line – there are several sources. Using the clip leads, connect one battery holder wire to the top of one silver electrode. With another clip lead, connect the other battery holder wire to the resistor (or just solder the wire to the resistor). With a third clip lead, connect the other resistor wire to the top of the other silver electrode. Use two clothes pins, clip the silver electrodes on either side of a wide mouth quart jar. Fill with steam distilled water to a level just below the clips and let it sit for a day or two. No stirring is needed. You can follow the directions on the Meissnerresearch site. If you don’t mind spending the $200, then get a constant current polarity reversing automatic shutoff unit as recommended by the other posts. I just hate to see anyone spend $200 for a couple of batteries and a resistor! --Steve Y. From: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com [mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com] On Behalf Of Jim Meissner yahoo Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 7:07 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSHello from new member! Hi Paul, You might consider this one. I’ve used CS made with it for 11 years now, as needed, for pneumonia, lyme and other tick-borne diseases, cuts, scrapes, sinus infections, etc with excellent results. http://meissnerresearch.com/products/silver-generator Carol Monroe From: zzekel...@aol.com [mailto:zzekel...@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 6:19 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHello from new member! In a message dated 1/10/2012 6:00:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, devorah...@yahoo.com writes: Hey everybody. Decided to join because within the last week i've been researching CS nonstop. After a long, frustrating journey trying to figure out my health issues (mostly lifelong asthma, and sinusitis for 3 years) CS hit me like a ton of bricks, and I knew I was on the right track. I'm on my 4th day and the results are miraculous. Just incredible. I just ordered a portable nebulizer to help accelerate the results. And now, probably like most of you, i'm pretty determined to make my own CS. I'm deep in the middle of reading through each manufacturers site. It is a bit of a wild ride but i'm convinced i'll find something. I know i need constant current, probably want an automatic stirrer, etc. Ill search the archives for more info. take care, Paul believe it or not i'm walking on air Hi Paul welcome...You've hit a great group of people here.. I have learned so much since I joined... There are a couple members in the group that sell C S generators... Ask I'm sure they will send you info..I have a silver puppy love it. Sold by Ode on the group... Once again Welcome.Lois No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Re: CSThe Silvercell process?
Trem, Tel, and Others, When you made your higher PPM brews, did you stop just because you felt like it, or because you actually hit a limit in PPM? I have a batch at 50PPM right now, and am going to work it up til it wont go no more. It is however very slow, as I run off 2 AA's. It seems to me that this incremental upping of PPM could be possible indefinitely. I notice that transferring the brew to another jar, then right back to the first jar actually increases PPM by about 1 or so. Then I clean the electrodes and continue the brew. I think that perhaps if you have a uniformly dispersed brew, that there is a time window when you first turn on the power when very little silver hydroxide is forming, as the denser regions of ions just coming off the electrodes have not had time to migrate to the other electrodes yet. During this time window is when the conductance will increase. When boatloads of pilgrims reach the other electrodes however, conductance may peak. This might suggest that vigorous stirring is definitely a help in lengthening that time frame. It might also suggest that increased distance between electrodes could help. This would not get rid of the nernst layer, but simply make it a non-issue for a time frame. Then the unit can be turned off for a while, and maybe continue to be stirred. Then do it again and again. Ultra low current would get rid of a theoretical nernst layer, but perhaps still in that case, eventually when boatloads of pilgrims start plating out - arriving from the other electrode in dense amounts - , this would be a second reason of a peaking conductance. Again solvable by turning off the power for a while. Just guessing! Anyone wanna have a PPM-off?
Re: CShow to get moisture out of silver oxide powder
I have made about 16,500 PPM silver citrate. This appears to be the saturation point I was able to practically reach in a saturated solution of citric acid. A study referenced earlier says 20,000PPM was the limit of silver citrate solubility. So it is in the same ballpark. 10 drops sublingually with 20 drops DMSO...no big effect. Little herx feelings here and there. [insert swear words]. I will be avoiding bright sun light. Also tried transdermally. Actually, the very first time I took just 1 drop sublingually and felt some clear improvement that same evening. Did not repeat with future doses though. The citric acid is so strong it burns. But it is tolerable. Going to try to add lots of potassium citrate shift the equilibrium and delay the release of silver ions. Also going to try doing it as an oral spray with DMSO to get more tissue area to absorb through. Also going to try liposomal version. Should help protect me from citric acid burn, and allow larger doses. I will not be opening my blinds during the day...
CSRe: Kindey Failure
Sandy - thank you for Dave's testimony. Thank you everyone for your help with this. You are a miracle group. Love you, Joy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSKidney Failure
Have you looked up the Bob Beck Protocol. There's a lot of useful information there on cleaning blood and removing unwanted pathogens from the body. Regards, Mark On 11 Jan 2012, at 8:49, 2 Words Production 2wordsproduct...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, For a loved one, seeking to help her with failing kindeys. Does anyone know of any type of therapy out there or above there that can be used to clean the blood and support the kidneys - or even regenerate cells? Also - are there any devices that can be used on the kidney area/meridian to alleviate pain? Seeking all good healers out there to help in my quest. Blessings of good health to all, Joy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHello from new member!
I have had the silver puppy, it was an early model, and I sent it back, but my Colloid master has never had one bit of trouble, my biggest problem was being able to find good distilled h2o, you need to test it and take it back if it is high in undiscovered solids - Like 2.5, or more, I like to see a 0.3 or 0.4 and you can find it if you live in a large town. Someone remarked about my Hanna tester, I calibrate it often, but I very seldom have to change anything. It is the $100.00 blue tester for the fish game. City water. You can calibrate it with some provided liquid in a plastic bag, I still have the one that came with the tester. But I wanted to give away my old Idea's that are cheap and work wonderful all the time, Mine is 12 years old and still going strong. It's a fish tank bubblier folks, with a clear plastic hose and a fuser on the bottom of the line to stir the silver during the making proses. I am getting over 71 yr's Old Now so I am telling some of my processes on this list now Again. I don't care what other marketer's say this is the best unit (the way I do it) on the market, I have had several over the years, But none can compare to the Gallon at a time Silver maker Colloid Master. (None)Terry Chamberlin a Lister here, helped me make a 10 gallon a day silver maker from scratch, I still have it but for me its too much work with 10 one gallon jars an 2 wires with 2 silver attached, it took me all day to set up and tear down,, too much work for me. But I didn't have to make silver for a month or more. Tel Tofflemire Albuquerque, New Mexico 87114 From: MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 6:59 PM Subject: Re: CSHello from new member! I have a Colloid Master -- have used it just about non-stop for almost ten years. It's a great unit and you can see it at www.wishgranted.com. MA From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, January 11, 2012 4:00:42 PM Subject: Re: CSHello from new member! I have to say, I agree with both Dan and Steve. I own both a silverpuppy magnetic stir (older no swap feature) and a Silvergen SG-6 and use them both, can recommend both. Another alternative that costs a bunch less than the Meissner unit is the Colloid Master 777 (I think that is the one), many members of the SilverPets yahoo list own it, and like it. Some people add some method of stirring to it, but that isn't expensive. I have never owned one, so can't report on it, other than to say people who do own it say they like it. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
