CS>[rheumatic] article on lymphocytes and the gut
Hi all, Here is a detailed and interesting commentary on the gut in case anyone is interested. http://gut.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/45/1/148 Molecules controlling lymphocyte migration to the gut. Susan "Light is Living in God's Holy Thoughts" -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS, OT, Help!
Hi, I was reading of the poor man with claustrophobia. There are several things that might help. Essential fatty acids, B12 and folic acid, a full spectrum B complex, B50, Magnesium and trace minerals. Anxiety and panic attacks have responded to this regimen with good food intake and so forth. Maybe the claustrophobia will also be helped. Many things that are thought of as psychological these days are due to lacking elements in our diet due to the way we have been told we should eat. Susan "Light is Living in God's Holy Thoughts" -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Alkaline water Device
At 04:00 AM 7/11/99 EDT, you wrote: Thanks Samm!! I'll be around here. Just let me know. Pleeease look to see if it is tin or stainless or something that is safe VS something that might leach out something that isn't good Thanks again. Susan >He had two at the store, collecting dust. I didn't pull the one out of >the box, but saw the top of it. The instructions and explanations were all >in Korean except for one brief overview in English. I can ask if he will >ship one. Overall, it looked like a nice double-barrelled coffee maker. I >*thought* that sounded like a good price. Admittedly, I didn't pay much >attention to the discussion of ionized water when it was going on a few weeks >back. I'll be down his way this Wednesday or the next Wednesday. I'll >inquire about the shipping -- to see if it's a possibility. :) >Samm > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > Susan "Light is Living in God's Holy Thoughts" -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Copper
At 07:02 AM 7/11/99 +0100, you wrote: Thanks for the info, will be looking forward to September and yet another gleem of hope!! Susan >Yep I took two drops of liquid copper (RemeStat ) in 750ml of water three >times a day, I even upped it to 3 drops of the stuff in 750ml. >Cleared my gut problems in about a week & my blood tests show no sign of >Candida Albicans, thank the maker! > >To be fair, CS did shift the Candida in my mouth, It was the Candida in my >gut that proved to be the bitch to get to. > >I'm told the Zinc (RemeDay) & Copper solution will be available via free >phone & Internet mid-September in the US. >There will also be a web site, I will of course let you all know as soon as >it's up & running. > >I'm taking the Zinc to halt the HIV virus. >The Colloidal Silver I'm taking has stopped all opportunistic infections. > >Regards, Simon Caleb - The Silver Surfer > >- Original Message - >From: > >> Simon the Silver Surfer mentioned the copper colloid. I believe he said >he >> took two drops. >> Taylor >> >> << << But recently it was reported, here I believe, that a >> form of colloidal copper was EXTREMELY effective at >> completely wiping out candida albicans, so it was for >> this one, specific use that I was inquiring.>> >> >> << I thought it was zinc the guy mentioned fo candida. >> edith>> >> >> > > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > Susan "Light is Living in God's Holy Thoughts" -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Alkaline water Device
At 02:08 AM 7/11/99 EDT, you wrote: Hey, That sounds like a great price!! I have followed different threads about this subject and it seems it is quite a good thing to do. Someone recently explained the principle of just how it worked and that was very interesting. However, I think I looked in on a site and the price was exorbitant, and I believe that this product was made in China. So, let me know what you find out. I don't have many resources up here. Wonder if they ship these out? Have you actually seen one to see the quality and such as that. I'm interested for one. Thanks for the info! Susan > >> Drinking Alkaline water to remove acid wastes (including uric acid) >> will dissolve some of the calcium phosphate deposits and allow the >> ionic calcium to be reabsorbed into the bones, potassium bicarbonate >> will also do this work. >> > >I found a water ionizer at a Korean Food Store for $59. The box says one >side of the machine (which looks somewhat like a coffee maker) makes acidic >water and the other makes alkaline. Would this be a good thing to have? >Sound like a good price? I can research this, I just thought I'd ask here >first. Thanks. >Samm > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > Susan "Light is Living in God's Holy Thoughts" -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>replace electrolytes
At 01:35 AM 7/11/99 EDT, you wrote: The only thing I can add to this is that I take Alacer's Emer-gen-C. It comes in foil packets, it has 1gm of C and most of the mineral electrolytes. I take 2 packages at a time and I credit that with my surviving OK right now. I am beginning to know how important minerals are thanks to the discussion here. I forget sometimes to take mine and I think I do much better when I regularly take them. If you drink a lot of water and don't replace electrolytes you could feel pretty bad I think. Susan > >> I need help...FAST. This heat is knocking me out. Anybody got a quick >> fix? I think getting more alkaline fast would help. Any ideas besides >lemons? >> >> >> Please...I am drooping badly... > > I am the same way this summer and I'm getting discouraged. I've been >overcome by heat twice already, with only above average exertion outdoors. :( >Samm > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > Susan "Light is Living in God's Holy Thoughts" -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Another use?
Hello again, I have had a psoriasis of the scalp for 3 years. Used everything, also some on my face. Then I started using vinegar because I had used a hair product that left a residue. Walla, the psoriasis went away. After a while it came back so now I put vinegar in one of those bottles that have the long skinny tip that they use for hair dye and after I shampoo once or twice a week I squirt it around on my scalp and let is sit a minute or so and then rinse--no odor and no itching--mine itched sometimes. I also use a shampoo called Semolex which takes al the seborheicsp? stuff off the scalp. amazingly, it seems to be all natural ingredients and leaves your hair wonderful. I wonder it one used this on other places it that would help it. Only thing is you can only get it from a beauty supplier--I think. At 11:33 PM 7/10/99 +1200, you wrote: >Yes Reid, >UV light can help some psoriasis sufferers (sunshine) and recent >research has infra red light in conjunction with some other drug >giving complete remission. >I have some psoriasis spots and have had no remission from cs use. > >Ivan > >> >Has anyone had any success with CS on psoriasis? Mine is flaring >up again >> after years of dormancy, and I'm really at a loss. >> >Liz >> >>Go get a tan in a tanning bed and see if that doesn't help. >Sounds funny >> but that is something that I read a while back that was said to >work. >> >> Take Care >> Reid >> >> >> >> -- >> The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal >silver. >> >> To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message >to: >> silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- >silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >> with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. >> >> To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >> >> List maintainer: Mike Devour >> > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > Susan "Light is Living in God's Holy Thoughts" -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>[CS] DMSO as transport mech
HI, Just a paltry .02 here about the DMSO. It seems to help so many people with various things. However, it is poison to me. I had DMSO bladder instillations for they thought was interstitial cystitis which is an awful thing. It was very painful(I hear they use anesthetics now) however, after the fourth week and probably before that I started to write funny then forget things, then have siezures, all sorts of neurological stuff. Well the HMO that was my carrier at the time refused treatment--they had authorized treatment and now wouldn't help these peculiar results. I ended up at home with nurses around the clock for 6 weeks, most of them I knew personally and they saw to it that I had proper care. I didn't know who I was, what had happened and could just stare at things, although my mind sort of thought things, I couldn't express or speak properly. This is a horror story as so many of mine seem to be. Thank God I have a strong something that keeps on ticking. When I was able to have blood drawn and so forth --after the siezures stopped, it was found that all the parameters of my bood were low. And the MCV and MCH were very high and I had no mature red blood cells, nor any cell that was the proper shape. OVer the next month after the 6 weeks I slowly started to get my intelligence back and was able to go back to work part time and then full time. Now, no one knows what happened. It seems that I was poisoned by it, my bone marrow was depressed and my CNS was also altered. It was very scary, and I am so fortunate that my friends were able to take care of me. An example of HMO's not cleaning up after themselves. This probably won't happen to another human being. I also have trouble with MSM which I would dearly love to take and other similar things. I am very sensitive to drugs --all of them . Mostly I have paradoxical reactions. This is one person's nightmare with DMSO. There may have been factors present that caused this to happen, but I guess I'll never know. THis is sort of the worst case scenario of what could happen, but probably won't ever. At 03:04 AM 7/10/99 EDT, you wrote: >In a message dated 99-07-09 20:54:37 EDT, you write: > >> He had two friends die from it when it carried to the liver and they went >> into liver failure. > >So the DMSO must have transported something that was toxic to the liver? >Samm > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > Susan "Light is Living in God's Holy Thoughts" -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS> CPAP
Hi Reid, Of course, these guys just don't know anything about orthomolecular medicine. However, for people like my f riends James and Mary this CPAP is life saving. they wear it at night and the positive pressure keeps their airway open so they can oxygenate. I was on a trip with Mary and we were sleeping in the same motel room and in the middle of the night several nights I awoke and she wasn't breathing--she is 70 and wonderful. I counted the minutes off 3'45" she took a breath, a big one and then continued for a while and stopped again. Over and Over. She had congestive heart failure and fluid retention, she snored like a train--so did James. Well now they are hooked up at night and are healthy., that was my point. This long Q-T has been around forever believe it or not. They are just now saying there is a problem. Used to be a variant of normal. so go figure. Also I brought this CPAP up because it was mentioned earlier, but not the home version. > > The jerkoff doctor is treating the symptom and not the cause. Having the >people checked for Long QT syndrome and having the doctors run a Gamagloblin >test to see WHAT part of their immune system is weak could also be beneficial >for patients with sleep apnea!!! :) > >Take Care >Reid > > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > Susan "Light is Living in God's Holy Thoughts" -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS> CPAP
This is an interesting and helpful device for those with sleep apnea. Though CPAP is used in weaning people off respirators and is one of the many functions that respirators can accomplish, it has been available to people to use in their homes at night. It decreases the symptoms of brain fog and in some people this is so bad that they are totoally disoriented in the Am and often diagnosed improperly. It can also lead to heart irregularities during sleep and sudden death. This device is portable and can even be used camping. Read more at CONTINUOUS POSITIVE AIRWAY PRESSURE CONFIRMED AS BENEFICIAL FOR PATIENTS WITH SLEEP APNEA Nasal continuous positive airway pressure (NCPAP) therapy improves both daytime sleepiness and overall self-reported health status in patients with severe obstructive sleep apnea. http://respiratorycare.medscape.com/4825.rhtml http://respiratorycare.medscape.com/4825.rhtml";>Read it Here Susan "Light is Living in God's Holy Thoughts" -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: Herx
Hi CS'rs, One natural thing that has allways helped the herx reaction almost immediately(when considering hours and days of detoxong) is digestive enzymes on an empty stomach. Dr. Trowbridge taught me this years ago and I refused to believe that it would work until "he made me" do it. There are studies---a few and mostly in nutritional journal---that say for inflammation enzymes may be as effective as those awful ensaids. I've done this for 10 years. I also take bisalts for the symptoms. Dr Rea taught me to do this. And of course water. The time to heal is crucial to the result. I hate to see someone who is toxic out there trying to mow the lawn just because it "needs" to be done. Good to give oneself some good rest and down time to recover. There is a lot about metabolism and detoxification in Dr. Rea's Medical Books. They are thorough and the information is useable. It helps to understand what is happening on an "every" system level and he is quite good at that. He also recomends loads of vitamin C and the detox IV I use (which he prescribed) is C 25 grams, MG 25meq, and I amp of B-6. Of course if you are able you can get these things in orally. Athough I own all of his books--(next the Bible the best) I do not believe that they are available at regular libraries and I noticed last week that they are now $107.00 each, there are three of them. Patricia J. Santhuff said: Whats a herx reaction? .Bobsaid: Even with >herbs you still have to give the body time to pass the toxins out before >allowing more toxins to be released from die off. Susan "Light is Living in God's Holy Thoughts" -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>kills all ?
Hi, I agree about not wanting to put alcohol into the system!!! But it just really relieves the pain for me to do that. Not very often thank goodness. Just like when I found out I was drinking aspartame. I felt so badly that I was doing something that was harmful to me and not realizing it--years ago now --seems so. So the alcohol deal is the same. I have never thought about using Zephiran which is what the people who start the IV's on me use to clean the skin. Is this any more safe??? Anyone know?? Blessings, Susan At 07:38 PM 6/30/99 -0500, you wrote: >The alcohol is the ingredient here that you would want to avoid putting >into your system.and I never understood why people use a hair dryer for >an ear infection. > > >At 05:26 PM 6/30/99 EDT, you wrote: >> >>Hi all, >> Years ago I started having ear infections a lot and the doctor called >>it swimmers ear even though I hadn't been swimming. He told me to mix half >>and half a solution of Distilled vinegar and alcohol and put it in my ear. >>After that I use a hair dryer to dry my ear out and the warmth feels great >>and seems to help also. I still do this but sometimes it only works well if >>I do it when the ear problem first starts. The last time I got an ear >>infection like this I started putting CS that I made in my ear and it only >>seemed to keep it moist and the problem continued. I finally broke down and >>put the alcohol and vinegar in my ear several times a day and it got better >>after a few days. My hearing was totally blocked off when I started the >>alcohol and vinegar and finally got back to normal. Don't know if this will >>help at this point but its worth a try. If your ear is pretty infected it >>can burn some as mine did but that went away after the first day. >> >>Good luck, >>Janis >> >> >> >>In a message dated 6/30/99 9:06:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time, >>cmar...@avana.net writes: >> >><< > My neighbor has a fungus in her ear. She's been unable to >> > hear for about a week. She is putting CS in it but hasn't >> > helped. Ant suggestions?? >> >> > edith, >> >> >> >>-- >>The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. >> >>To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >>silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >>with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. >> >>To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >> >>List maintainer: Mike Devour >> >> >> > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > Susan Light is "Living in God's Holy Thoughts." -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>kills all ?
At 10:14 AM 6/29/99 EDT, you wrote: My neighbor has a fungus in her ear. She's been unable to hear for about a week. She is putting CS in it but hasn't helped. Ant suggestions?? edith, I pour full strength hydrogen peroxide and let it bubble for a few minutes and then I "rinse" with alcohol--for the drying effect. This is what I did for the kids' ears when then were swimming 16 hours a day as youngsters. It works real well. I don't think a doc would recommend full strength anything but--- I actually learned this as a child when I had a bad ear infection that nearly got me systemically. The doc (in the early 50's) had my mom doing this several times a day . I do this sometimes after shampooing my hair for prevention. Also for general ear stuff, nutrabiotic makes ear drops that are also great, but take too long when the ear is so painful. Susan Light is "Living in God's Holy Thoughts." -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>The internet
At 07:03 AM 6/26/99 -0700, you wrote: What are my chances? After what I have found out about vaccines, I am scared >to even look into what chemo does to us!! Mary, You know there is a vaccine, at least for breast cancer. I think Vincent could tell you about it. I dont know if it is approved in the US, but in other countries women have been successfuly immunized from their cancers--or so I hear. any one else know anything about this??? It is apparently a good thing to look into what is happening globally when making decisions about treatments for things. However, none of us are naysayers out to scare people. Hope springs eternally and sometimes things that are said on these pages are wake up calls. At least for me. Susan Light is "Living in God's Holy Thoughts." -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS> How To Help Yourself If You're Having a Heart Attack
Hi, Just in case no one knows this already I thought it is a good thing to know. After all the struggle and success with CS it would be a shame to die of a heart attack! WHAT TO DO IF ALONE AND HAVING A HEART ATTACK > Let's say it's 6:17 p.m. and you're driving home, (alone of course) > after an unusually hard day on the job. Not > only was the work load extraordinarily heavy, you also had a > disagreement with your boss, and no matter how > hard you tried he just wouldn't see your side of the situation. You're > really upset and the more you think about it > the more up tight you become. > > All of a sudden you start experiencing severe pain in your chest that > starts to radiate out into your arm and up into > your jaw. You are only about five miles from the hospital nearest you > home, unfortunately you don't know if you'll > be able to make it that far. What can you do? You've been trained in > CPR but the guy that taught the course > neglected to > tell you how to perform it on yourself. > > > HOW TO SURVIVE A HEART ATTACK WHEN ALONE >(Since many people are alone when they suffer a heart > attack, this article seemed in order.) > > Without help the person whose heart stops beating properly and who > begins to feel faint, has only about 10 > seconds left before losing consciousness. However, these victims can > help themselves by coughing repeatedly > and very vigorously. A deep breath should be taken before each cough, > and the cough must be deep and > prolonged, as when producing sputum from deep inside the chest. A > breath and a cough must be repeated about > every two seconds without let up until help arrives, or until the heart > is felt to be beating normally again. Deep > breaths get oxygen into the lungs and coughing movements squeeze the > heart and keep the blood circulating. The > squeezing pressure on the heart also helps it regain normal rhythm. In > this way, heart attack victims can get to a > phone and, between breaths, call for help. > > Tell as many other people as possible about this, it could save their > lives! > >From Health Cares, Rochester General Hospital via > Chapter 240s newsletter > AND THE BEAT GOES ON... (reprint from The Mended Hearts, > Inc. publication, Heart Response) >> > >> > > >> > >--- ONElist Sponsor > >Campaign 2000 is here! >http://www.onelist.com >Discuss your thoughts; get informed at ONElist. See our homepage. > > > > Susan Light is "Living in God's Holy Thoughts." -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>God in the doctor's office
At 07:50 PM 6/25/99 -0500, you wrote: > Jolly , What a terrible doctor. I don't think I would even go to the guy he called. Maybe you can find someone else who has never heard of this guy. This is sad but true. Once you are "labeled"by a group, there will be nothing for you. I am so sorry. But in order to get what you want it might be a good idea to just say non-threatening things that will prompt them to do these tests as if it was their Idea. It is sad to have todo this. Things were bad enough, but now they are so threatened that things sound like they are worse. I am so sorry you were treated this way. You don't deserve this and no one does. O makes me mad. You are right in wanting this and asking for this. BUT you have to take into consideration that in order to get these you may have to resort to manipulation, which is hard to learn if you have always been straight forward. I fired a person in the health care industry here lately and he told me that I was some"label" because I actually didn't give him a chance to rip me off twice. When I do things that are normal like saying "no" this is a limit with me, it P__s these people off immeasurably. They are the sick ones, after all, they should be able to manipulate you and convince you that you are wrong. Bullies is what they used to be called. Now they are sort of dressed up bullies. There used to be a place on the net where you could get blood work ordered and done. Does anyone remember that or have saved the URL??? Brain dead as I was, I recall that I thought it was a great idea at the time. You actually have to pay a fee for the "doctors" order, but after that they send you a kit and do the test and send you the results. Could be a better answer. Then may be you could find a nice person interested in helping you instead on compartmentalizing you and labeling you. Also some of the saliva tests are pretty accurate. For instance about the liver. The liver has to be pretty sick before the enzymes go up like the SGOT< LDH and so forth. By then you have an illness that the allopaths(if they are lucky) can swoop in and save you and get to be a god. But the saliva tests catch things earlier anyway and then you can go about correcting the things before(hopefully) and disease has set in. Now if I could tell you where to go to get this info on the net, I might be helpful. Great Smokies Lab does some of these things and I think they have a website. Maybe that is a start. Susan Light is "Living in God's Holy Thoughts." -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Silver and the GI and Other organs
At 05:30 PM 6/23/99 -0500, you wrote: Another thing to remember Susan is the out sides of the body and suroundings. You can clean the insides but you'll make a big mistake if you ignore the outsides. Wash every thing with bleach-hot water and change it EVERY day. Thanks Reid, I do. I am always staying clean. It would be different if I were swimming in a cesspool everyday, but that isn't the case. Because of the immune dysfunction, I seem to be able to be infected with my own organisms, and some no one knows how I got. Consider that I have lived alone for 5 years on a mountaintop, it seems strange to come down with alot this stuff. That is why the CS is important, especially now.( In saying this, perhaps when I was actively working with all these infectious things my body protected me from disease, but the organisms were being harbored in my body. Seems strange after so many years, but considering some of the stuff I have been studying about the gut, maybe not! Using it straight for enema/bowel care is a lot better than anything else as it acts immediately. I have found something else also and that is that after several quarts of CS in and out rectally, I feel a sense of peacefulness. So what is that all about? I don't know. Maybe killing some adjuvant organisms or what ever. About an hour or so later, I have die=off symptoms for about 2-3 hrs. these are no fun, but I hope an indication that at least something positive is happening. I was DXed with Leaky Gut last year and have been treating for that. With paraplegia, tho there are other aspects to be dealt with. All my meds now are sublingual or liquid, as the state of absorption is not dependable. I share this because I am beginning to believe that in states of physical stress from illness or progression of illness the GI tract, without good directions from the brain or shorted out ones, just doesn't know what to do and so things don't get absorbed. If one has progressed as far as I seem to have, battling all the way, then oral stuff is iffy and so one wonders why they can't get well when they are doing all the right things, eating and so forth. Perhaps none of the organs that are supposed to be receiving and responding to these treatments can't actually do this all the time. So, because I have been forced to work from the bottom up (pardon the pun;-)) I have discovered that I may have to get well backwards. I would never have done this had I not been forced to and so I would never have stuck with it long enough also to find out any good effects... So if you are stuck and CS doens't seem to help orally maybe rectal instillations or "Harris Flushes" as we called them in the old days of medicine would be a feasable route to take, at least in the interum. Susan Light is "Living in God's Holy Thoughts." -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>wire longevity
At 09:16 AM 6/23/99 -0700, you wrote: >has anone ever managed to wear out a set of wires making cs? how many Hi Dr. John J. Watson, Yes, I have worn out a set of wires from a Soto silver pulsar and just got new ones. Trouble is you have to buy from them already in their little wire gizmo. I am now going to start on building a unit not dependant on wall electricity. I made maybe 20 gallons of the CS with the wires. Don't know if that helps or not. Susan Light is "Living in God's Holy Thoughts." -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Urinary tract infections reduced with silver
Hi all CS'Rs, The silver on the catheter prompted me to share this treatment. I am paralyzed now, gut, bowel , bladder, still can walk pretty decently with the canadian crutch. However, this last thing happened slowly so that I wasn't really aware that I wasn't emptying my bladder or anything else for that matter, but I got a bladder infection and then another one and now we know it is neurological--demyelinating disease which I have had and is now active again. Cut to the chase. I have to catheterize for residual at least twice a day and though I cannot feel the outside, I can feel the inside and it was so raw and nothing was helping that and of course trying to sleep with every hour pain to void was making me tired.(the pain of course is not in the usual place so had to figure that one out too) So 3 days ago I started instilling the CS I make into my bladder when I catheterized after emptying the bladder. Well, it is working. Much more comfortable and got some rest last night. I have been reading the list, but not to trust my self to post lately. Seems like I am getting better in that respect now. Chronic severe pain is not good for human beings, even if one is enduring this for honorable reasons. I learned this the hard way, of course. My doctor recognized this and sat me down about it. Who would have known how much that constant thing can change a person in every way. I hope that I was not as uncompassionate with all of you as I was with myself. If so I apologize. My memory fails me for the last 2-3 months perhaps. Just kept trucking. Well, Amen. Anyway, what simple thing to do and cheap and safe and, well just did good all around. So I also have to do bowel care now--nothing like paraplegia:-))) and I was just so put off by the whole thing and sure that this was not good for infections in the area, so I started using CS that I make in the enema without diluting or anything. Had to make quite a bit but after 3 of those, I also began feeling much better and though still paralyzed I don't have that awful old ammonia stink that was there before. So I think I am helping the whole deal with the CS. I am also much more relaxed for some reason. Maybe just to get things moving the right direction. I just read Bud MacFarlanes new book, "House of Gold" about Y2K and stuff and sure enough in the book, the first year 1/3 or more of the people succumb to Flu--no antibiotics, nothing. Each year after that it gets beter because the people develope immunity and they also stay away from people and people understand that. It is a great read. I felt so good and thank ful that 2-3 years ago when this list started--(when was that exactly? My sense of time is terrible!) from the Rife list that I did this and learned and you helped me. This would have saved those people. Anyway I think it is a blessing from God and I was really happy that I know how to do this!! Now I need to get a set up that is simple and doesn't use the wall electricity I am using now. Marsha, could I buy some silver from you? Like several sets? I sure would appreciate it. Anyway, maybe this info can help someone you know who like me needs to head things off at the pass with all this chronic paralysis business. Perhaps all paraplegics could put a little silver in their catheters every day and not get sick and die from kidney and bladder infections. When you can't feel things, they get bad before you even know you are sick. I guess the book, "Pain, the gift Nobody wants" makes a lot of sense to me now. Blessings, susan >I found this on MEDLINE. It looks like there is good money to be saved >by insurance companies by using silver. When they catch on I bet that >silver will become their little darling cash cow. Patient care may get >better as a consequence. Patient care won't get too good though. Just >think of all the doctors, hospitals, insurance companies that would be >out of work if we all got well and stayed well by using preventive care. >WOW! > >Health Care Cost Reengineering Rep 1999 Jan;4(1):13-4, 1 > >Silver-coated catheter reduces hospital UTIs, associated costs. > >IDEA BANK: Silver-coated catheter reduces hospital UTIs, associated >costs. Catheter-associated UTI can extend a patient's hospital stay by >3.8 days, increasing costs significantly. >Find out what new study says about a new catheter that decreased the >incidence of UTIs in the study population. > >PMID: 10345816, UI: 99176212 > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > Susan Light is "Living in God's Holy Thoughts." -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join
CS>Re: Beck's Blood electrifier
At 10:54 AM 6/1/99 -0400, you wrote: >Look into Bob Beck's work. He has a four step program that seems blood electrification. (His desired unit is one that connects to the two veins of one wrist and runs, I believe at 100 hrtz. *** Hi, If you do this "silver pulsar" blood zapping, be sure that you have NO CS or other things in your system. I use this device and once used it in the morning after I had taken all the fungus supplements that I take and within an hour I was really sick. Stayed sick for 2-3 days, swelling and etc. What he warns is true. You can overdose accidently and/or overload your system with so many toxins that your kidneys can't process them. This is what happened to me. I learned the hard way. Just thought I would mention this. Ths unit is very good and quite effective. Susan Light is "Living in God's Holy Thoughts." -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS> OL' Snappy
At 07:40 PM 5/29/99 +, you wrote: Hi list; An electric fence charger was at the auction... Interesting experiments Ron. Are fence electrifiers of that sort intended just to give you a bite without killing you? Mike , I have a solar fence electrifier for the geese when they are young to "free range" them. The one I have electifies 25 miles of fence at 600V it is a small one as I am only trying to discourage foxes, racoons, pack rats and so forth. Yes, they will give you a jolt without killing you. There are ways around being jolted and the most important thing is to have the ground connected to a metal ground 8" into the ground. I was happy to read this alright because now I have a way to make CS if the electricity goes out!!! I am careful to have the "hot wire" wound around plastic connectors because I was told that the goslings would probably die if they were zapped--they are quite small when I use this. Susan Light is "Living in God's Holy Thoughts." -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re: To Trish Olive leaf extract
At 06:16 AM 5/25/99 -0400, you wrote: >the other week starting on mon do olive leaf East Parks 38% active >ongredient- 3 caps 3x a dat for those for days then off on fri sat sun Trish, Where do you find East Park 38% Oleourpein? Is there a website? Thanks, Susan Light is "Living in God's Holy Thoughts." -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>H202
At 11:12 PM 5/25/99 +1200, you wrote: >Much Ozone info here: http://www.o3zone.com/index.htm >Its widely used with good results. I drink ozonised water, as per Beck >protocol, myself . Ivan, How do you ozonize the water? Susan Light is "Living in God's Holy Thoughts." -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Silver///Days 5-9
At 12:53 AM 5/22/99 -0700, you wrote: >Hi Everyone...I'm back! >was emotionally a basket case. Now, this is a place I really like to go to >and usually find most relaxing, but this time I seemed to be constantly >either on the verge of an anxiety attack or depressed. Please someone tell >me it's die-off, because if it's not I really am BONKERS > Hi, I had something like this and in reading I decided it must be a B deficiency. So I got the sublingual B-12 which is Dibencozide(Co-enzyme B-12) and I am taking a balanced B also. I no longer have panic attacks(which I never had before this either) Susan Light is "Living in God's Holy Thoughts." -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Perfect container
At 07:31 PM 5/20/99 -0400, you wrote: >I just made my first batch and used a "Mrs. Butterworth's" amber syrup >bottle. She's now known around here as "Mrs. Silverworth"! Sharon, What a great idea!! Congratulations on your first batch! Blessings, Susan Light is "Living in God's Holy Thoughts." -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>What's good?
At 12:50 PM 5/18/99 -0500, you wrote: >"" Is that enough? Liz Pavek MI Here's a tip on the CS for women:-) Swish it in your mouth the entire time you are fixing your hair and face and in the bathroom in the morning--even in the shower and then you won't be bothered with trying to remember to do it a certain amount of time. Keeps my gums perfect! E, well I guess the guys could do it while they are shaving??? Maybe?? Susan Light is "Living in God's Holy Thoughts." -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Some more
Oh yes, I forgot that because I wear heavy cushy and nylon stockings all winter I got the most horrible itchy fungus on my feet and this is from someone who can't really feel her feet. I was going nuts and then I started in on the CS orally now. I dried my feet better:-) Soaked them once in vinegar and after about a week on the CS about 2 ounces of 10=16ppm a day I had no more problem. Well it went away so nicely that I didn't even notice that I wasn't waking up and itching and burning at night until BoB reposted his stuff. I took it orally and did not put it on my feet--next time I will. Also my fingernails are straightening out and I don't put it on my fingernails either but just orally. And I also have yeast--whoops Didn't pay enough attention to the probiotocs or else it was that wonderful bunch of chocolate stars I ingested last week--ahem:-))) Susan Light is "Living in God's Holy Thoughts." -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Silver Bullet
At 10:25 PM 5/16/99 -0700, you wrote: >Regarding the guy who wrote "The Silver Bullet" and supposedly went from >Lyme to MS... Vilik, I talked with Dr. Paul Farber and from my understanding of our conversation, he said that he had arrested his MS with the CS or MSP is what he uses. I don't think it is such a downer. You know I use CS is spurts and then I repopulate and then I use it again. I have NO IMMUNE system in the way that it is known to most people like lymphocyte subsets and other things. I take so much for granted that I don't get on here and sing the praises, but I swig the stuff pretty regularly and even though I still have the results of the ups and downs of my illness, I can do things I wouldn't be able to do without it. I rarely get a cold. I knock sinus stuff out by sniffing CS (warm) and swigging, usually a day will do it. I take it for gastric upsets and it works! I use it on my scalp regularly and it works there too. I had eradicated yeast with it and I have eradicated my normal flora with it. Seems that it killed the yeast and left the rest ok or else I was taking a lot of probiotics at the time. I have taken it for various opportunistic things and it keeps them at bay. At the same time I got yeast from using CS , I got rid of it by douching with CS and using a probiotic. I think that you need to know your body and be sure what is what so that you know how to proceed. I sprayed my seedlings with it last year in the greenhouse when it didn't have a fan and they got visible mold and it was gone the next day and the seedlings were fine. I guess what I have learned the most for me is that I have to do the probiotics and that is just a fact. So CS is my immune system on some level. I have stayed out of the doc office after the sepsis last year and the gall bladder surgery. I'm not sure how it affects my neuropathy, but that goes in and out too. Sometimes I can feel the floor and sometimes I can't and it doesn't seem to have anything to do with the CS. So who knows? I know one thing and that is that I am much less dependant on anything in order to live. That makes me happy. Happy people do better. Susan Light is "Living in God's Holy Thoughts." -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Season's greetings...
MERRY CHRISTMAS !!! May the joy and peace of Christmas be with you and your loved ones and may you have a holy and a blessed holiday season. Love, Susan Light is Living in God's Holy Love, Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re: Silver in water as preservative
Hi everyone! I am looking for an answer here. I have been puting the good filtered water in every container I get to save for a not so rainy day? Anyway, it seems to me that there was a certain amount of CS you could put in the water to make it preserved or microbe free. Lots of my jugs have been there fo over a year so I thought I'd redo them and use the silver. My latest batch of silver is 14ppm. So how much of that would I need say per gallon to preserve the water for How? long? Thanks in advance! Light is Living in God's Holy Love, Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>solar cs? and root canals
At 11:00 PM 12/2/98 EST, you wrote: "A high percentage of chronic degenerative diseases can originate from >root filled >teeth. >Great. An I have a tooth that has had 2 root canals performed on it. >Rejoice in the small steps!! ><> firew...@juno.com Hi, Case in point. My sis had her first root canal this year. 4 trips to the dentist and $1200 dollars later, that is. After that she started getting illnesses. One after another. She generally isn't sick and when she is she just keeps on ticking. This stuff was bad. I talked with her about the resaerch I had done.(in the 30's they deemed root canals dangerous to people's health--sorry don't have the bio. Try Huggins) So, the only answer she could come up with was to just stay on antibiotics and see., Well she is better, but tires easily. Her decision. She said, "but I have already spent the money" Things seem to come down to money. They sterilize the root with a chlorine preparation that is so strong that when I walked into the office 30 mins after the last patient who had the root canal, I reacted to the chlorine. Chlorine is one of my biggies though. A person has to have a very strong Immune system to withstand that and a very good and sterile field, and how do they get the peri-dontic infection? This doc doesn't use antibiotics, just slices and dices. Nuf said. CS would be good. Light is Living in God's Holy Love, Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>>Off Topic> Dental Question
At 01:57 AM 11/30/98 -0800, you wrote: >Could this be my problem afterall? Any chance that this hole in my tooth >that's been left untreated for several months could be causing my health >to just be horrible? Mark, Earlier this year I was septic. Couldn't find the source then though now maybe we are making some headway in that area. At any rate, just before I crashed I had been to the dentist. I am a preventative person when I can so I regualarly visit the dentist. Anyway, My blood cultures were finaly negative after 30 days on 5 IV antibiotics a day, BUT my back tooth started hurting, I looked at it and black spots were on it. Well I got to a dental surgeon and he graciously pulled it for $200.00 Well that was too much money, but many things did calm down. We don't think it was the primary source, but may have become one left unchecked. Thank goodness for pain in this instance. I since have read quite alot about teeth and immune compromised people. Some is like which came first, the immune problem or the teeth. I am sure you could get it pulled for about $50 bucks unless you have a friend that is willing. They won't touch me outside of an operatory b/c of my multiple simmune dysfunctions. Conventional wisdom in those MD's who practice more alternatively is to get rid of it. No root canals. They were proven dangerous in the 30's but now dental people have built large businesses around endontistry. It absolutely amazes me how the pocket book can make everything wrong, right. So, I would say go for it. Life is too precious to waste anytime arguing about a tooth that is bad or even wondering about it. But that is just my experience. Light is Living in God's Holy Love, Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re: Candida Site
Here is a site about Candida with many links. An oftimes talked about topic on the silver list. http://www.panix.com/~candida/ LIGHT is Living in God's Holy Love! Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS-rife responses / post maternity afflictions
At 12:07 AM 10/17/98 PDT, you wrote: >If she used antibiotics in the past, she might have leaky gut syndrome, >which needs systematic supplements and colonics. >Portable home colonic equipment: see http://home.earthlink.net/~imoon Hi, Where did you get the information that the LGS needed colonics? LIGHT is Living in God's Holy Love! Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re: Reactions to CS
X-Sender: liat...@pop.flash.net Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 17:26:14 -0500 To: silver-list@eskimo.com From: Brooks Bradley Subject: Re: Reactions to CS Hi, Was there any frequency involved with this? Do you know what kind of a "wave" was emmitted by this light? If so, was it a sine or square wave? Very interesting, thanks! This condition had persisted for almost two weeks. We tried >several different protocols---all unsuccessfully---until, quite >serendipitously, we decided to try a modified (substituted an AC powered >strobe light for the DC camera strobe) Robert Beck type magnetic pulsing >unit. With the unit adjusted for approximately 1 pulse per 1.5 seconds, we >exposed each area for approximately 2 minutes. This we repeated a second >time about one hour later. Treatment was performed about 8:00 PM in the >evening. At 7:30 AM the following morning, he awakened with no discomfort >of any ki "The contented person is never poor; the discontented is never rich." Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer, Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Peter/MS
Peter, I am so sorry that your llife and health are so drainging on you and that you are having to endure all these hardships. Evidently nothing we have suggested has helped you and that is just a shame. I was praying for you the other day and it came to me that you aren't going to be able to get better until you clean up your environment. I'm not sure what that means, but I seem to recall that you had some toxins in your home and were living in a basement. Is that so? The inner environment is also very important for you also, but I am sure you know that. I hope that you will find a safe and happy place to live where things aren't so negative.I am stronger, but still just taking baby steps after the sepsis and endotoxin invasion. Still doing all the things I was including prayer. I wish I could give you the gift of Joy. Maybe you could pray and ask for it. It is such a wonderful gift! God Love you, Peter! Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer, Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Brown Recluse spider bite
> >Here is a situation I haven't seen addressed on the list before. I just >found out about an hour ago that one of my friends has been bitten by a >Brown Recluse spider on his shin and at the moment the bite has spread to >roughly two inches in diameter.. Does anyone on the list know of anyone >that has effectively dealt with this problem using a zapper, Rife >equipment, colloidal silver or any other alternative curing method? Please >post answers to list for other's benefit. > Harvey, Brown Recluse bites are poisonous and the tissue will necrose--die and may even need a skin graft--see a doc. First aid as in any bite is activated charcoal--open a capsule mix with some flax seed oil and put it directly on the bite--draws out the poison, ice the extremity. Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: DISTILLER
Hi, I purchased a used Polar Bear Distiller from the Polar Bear Co. in Nebraska. It works just fine. The final step has the condensed distilled water go down a clear tube connected to a stainless steel cylinder which contains acitvated charcoal and then on into the container. The water tastes good and is .001 on the TDS unless I pour it through a non bleached coffee filter and then in registers 000. When I first got it I had to run it on the sterilize cycle. I clean it by boiling vinegar in the boiling chamber. There was something that for me I couldn't have because of my chemical sensitivities in the Sears, but I can't remember now what that was. It sound as if some component is out-gassing and until it is through, perhaps the charcoal would help you. It is a good idea anyway to "finish it off". Another thing is how many gallons have you made with it? I have 2-5gallon jugs I fill and then 5 -1 gal jugs that are glass. Perhaps if you just put it somewhere and ran it a while it would finish getting broken in. Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Silver Oxide???
Good day< I have a question. I have some "colloidal silver" that was made in distilled water .001 on the TDS. It is 6ppm and light yellow. This week-end I put some old beads I had cleaned in there and they all turned black. They were previously silver. So, do I have silver Oxide or what? Anyone got any ideas? I made this batch with the Beck silver pulser. Blessings, Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Thyroid
>Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 13:45:52 -0800 >To: >From: "Susan M. Yensen" >Subject: Re: Thyroid >Cc: >Bcc: >X-Attachments: > >Try this:www.wilsonssyndrome.com worked for me. > >thanks, susan > > Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Thyroid
For Thyroid take a look at http://www.wilsonssyndrome.com I did and the treatment is predictable, repeatable and works. It is low body temp and "normal" thyroid tests. Helped me tremendously. It is T3 sustained release every twelve hours. If you think this might be you get the books and take the temps and ask for a doc near you who does this. It is actually multiple enzyme dysfunction due to subnormal temps--even if you "feel" \hot your temp may only be 97.6 or so. amazing how accurate and simple a clinical trial of this can be in helping . The books explain it to you easily. Susan *> Mary Jo Bruce wrote: I seem to recall that a recent edition of Dr. Douglass' alternative health newsletter had an article about thyroid. I believe it was suggested that one might dot iodine on the skin and watch to see whether it was sucked up by the body, so to speak - or not. I think there was a place on the body where it was best to dot it, but Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Research on CS
It was silver nitrate. I used it on burn patients. It was in a cream of silvadene. Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: ppm measurement techniques?
Hi, What a mind boggling exploration here! So many genius' here and with just a hair of an invite we get a very good education. Of course when your brain looks like fried eggs in a skillet, or was that your brain on drugs?? Well anyway it is stimulating and then the decisions, darn don't they always just pop up when you think you have everything "under wraps"(grinning) Oh well, just wanted to add that unless the universe has changed the measurements again, there are 10 drops(minums) to a cc (ml) or 15 drops can be used according to your syringes calibration and the formula you are undertaking to convert. Then of course there are 30cc's to an ounce. I just bought a homeopathic formula which said one ounce (29cc's), so it would seem that somewhere there is a conversion table that might actually says there are 29cc's to an ounce. The accepted has been 30cc's but the only thing constant in life is change. Does that mean the truth is a lie? And what do all these changes do to the world of Physics for heavens sake? I'm still making silver and still most grateful to the compassionate care I have received from the people on this list! Found out that I cannot make silver in distilled room temperature water that stays in solution. All things being equal, the same 27 volts with a light in line and over 1 hour with losts of sludge, then filtered-stayed clear as water and tested on TDL as 14 ppm. Turned golden in the darkened jar, then turned to clear with black sludge on the bottom so it appears I made an unstable colloid that turned out to be silver oxide, nasty stuff! I didn't feel well so I was cheating on my usual heating methodology to see. Was pleased at first, now I wonder what you most intelligent people can surmise from this and possibly help explain this phenomena to me. Remembering of course the initial statement about my brain. Good silvering to you-all(grin)(big grin) Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Drugs broadcasted
> >hi, > >You are both right to a certain extent about the antibiotics thing. Think >about this. When I was tested for chemicals at the EHC in Dallas they >found traces of compounds of drugs my patients were having IV. i bathed >these patients with no gloves, and did other things besides handling the >drugs which I did with sterile technique. > >When I was in the hospital with kidney infection in 1989, very sick I >opened my eyes one morning as the nurse was piggy backing the antibiotic >and found her running the air and the an\tibiotic out of the tubing onto >the carpeted floor---and we don't know how these resistant strains came >about? Poo\r technique plain and simple. Plus of course indescriminate >usage therof. > >I must say however that I just had my life saved by antibiotics and that >the bug was sensitive to alot of drugs which made me very happy that I had >not taken antibiotics for every little thing--praise God!!! > >Then there is Cathy, am ex pediatric oncology nurse friend of mine who >wound up with all the chemo in her body from carrying the babies around in >her arms, diapers and other excretion including breathing. she is still >pretty sick as it wiped out her immune system and she lost tolerance for >all foods and is on parenteral feedings to live--talk about expensive and >cumbersome and so forth. > >Dr. Rea at the EHC in Dallas said that if I wanted to put perfume on my >skin I might as well take a teaspoonful because it is absorbed that >easily. Ever wonder why you smell funny after alot of garlic??? Sort of >the opposite. > >Then there are morphine and fentenyl patches on the skin used for >analgesia and pain control in painful and chronic and fatal diseases--goes >right into the bloodstream from the skin and walla pain relief. These are >really good for people who also have an absorption problem. > >WHen I breathe diesel exhaust even on the hiway behind a big rig and it >gets into the car I really get bright and awake, and usually have a >siezure of some sort with in a few hours or minutes unless I can block the >whole thing with a shot or drops. > >So if you are around someone on high enough dosages of antibiotics and >inhale the same air touch their skin like hugging, bathing, washing their >clothes and so forth, depending on the integrity of their system and yours >there is absolutely the chance of experiencing at least some of the >substance. ] > >Illustration was the woman whose husband was accidently dipped in dioxin >and was very sick with the flu like symptoms, slept together and the next >day he died and she barely lived in renal failure and multiple system >failure and is now a chemically sensitive person who has to be hooked to >IV's constantly with magnesium and calcium to stop her siezures as drugs >don't work--make her worse./ > >Well I can go on and on of course but you get the picture. Lots of >\factors, but it seems all people are becoming a bit immune stressed with >the constant bombardment of chemicals--exhaust and so forth just happening >in normal life. Even dishwasher detergent is hazardous to your health. > Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Wound Care - LONG!!
Carl, Only thing I can say is to use 1/2 strength h2o2. In wounds that are open and necrotozing this is better, leave longer then rinse and do more often. Some of the new cells are not impervious to the h2o2 and the full strength would also affect them and since you don't no which is ewhich for a while , well anyway trued and true. Also, in debriding in this way, I believe success is garnered not only in keeping the wound clean and uninfected, but by the blood supply to the area. I don't know how to judge blood supply to the tumor vs blood supply to the healthy tissue, If this tumor is totally lysed and oozing, would it be a consideration to have it surgically debrided first? Full strength h2o2 is good for everything that is outside the body, tho. Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Doctor bashing
Hi, No one needs my 2 cents worth but here it is. I too have experienced some horrendous and even criminal actions on the part of MD's. I know this is not all of them and that some are REALLY trapped by their profession. Some have actually left and retrained in disgust. But when it comes to the pocket book, I suppose we are all capable of the best and the worst in each. Money truly is the root of a lot if not all evil. I have spent untold hours of my previous life being an activist in the area of what is right in this field. Now I take the tack that I will educate them--ONE AT A TIME. I have learned even to be manipulative, choosing the best time, considering fragile egos, proper wording and so forth. At least I go in there with a pretty researched case . This should not be necessary and that is maddening, but but my back is only up against the wall if I back into it so I really work on al;l the angles stuff. Well this keeps me from being a victim of them and not being a victim, I am empowered to perform better through prayer--Yikes I said it, but this is what works for me. I won't say "try it you'll like it", but perhaps conquering my own wrathful passions in this area alone has set my poor aching feet to a higher objective and I can live peacefully within even knowing the abuses and excesses. Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
PPM
Hello, How can you ?guess? at the ppm? A solution I thought was high was low. Is this a special gift? Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
GsE
GsE=Grapefruit seed Extract Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
RBC
Sorry folks! The RBC is 6-8 micrometers in diameter which is expressed as um--with a tail on the u. Thanks for the correction. Would have been nice to have a conversation! Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Peter/MS
Peter, dear, Been thinking about things. Seems that all the systems have to be "tweaked" to perform better. Not just the symptoms but the cause. Look at http://www.wilsonssyndrome.com Follow the directions there and see if you wawnt to persue this or if you fit into the category to be also dealing with this. Happens to people who are stressed--body and otherwise. Makes perfect sense and hopefully there would be a doc to help you with this. Once I brought the body temp up thje pain diminished. I'm in the middle of doing this so I don't know the ultimate answer. "Resetting the thyroid in people with low temps and normal thyroid tests. Just a thought to pass on to you. Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: How Much CS/GfSE...How Often?
Hi, The GsE (I use nutrabiotics) is very bitter.so I build up the drops in my juice/drink in the morning and at night. I had some sores uin my mouth once that I was sure GsE would cure so I "applied" it full strength and burned the mucous membranes so badly that I had to get viscous Lidocaine to relieve the pain so I could sleep. after it all healed, it was healthy. I wouldn't recommend that, just an example of how potent the stuff is. Now I dilute is for mucous membrane use. When I started to use it the recommendation was to build up drops and eventually I had a herxheimer reaction so I jsut stayed about there and it worked fine. CS will get a lot of the candida. I used higher ppm, and larger amounts and really had a reaction, but after, no Candida and I felt a lot better. So I guess what your body tells you is the best. Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Testing CS
I use Grapefruit seed extract tooth gel, nose drops, ear drops, and build up drops in my morning cocktail--juice plus all the liquid x\supplements. It is very good. I have herxed with it. I do not know if it is better that the CS. Seems the CS helps me more than the GsE but that is my body.\ Like CS you can take a dilute solution with you on vacation and put several drops in everything you drink and not get montezuma's revenge. Cs in higher ppm's will also do that. CS made at home is less expensive. However GsE is one of the first line things I do. Helped tremendously with sinus headaches--the nose drops just cause everything to drain out of yolur head. I also use CS for this. GcE won however in this instance. Oh and last summer I cured ring worm with it and the RB device I have. I think it is the GfE that did the deal on that Took about a month I think of daily application and covering with a band aid. Be great if these two would work synergistically wouldn't it. GsE is bacteriocidal and CS is not so get them coming and going. Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS in the intestine
>Hi, > >CS that is ingested and absorbed from the stomach will indeed reach the >intestines via the blood stream. > >If CS is absorbed from the stomach, it then reaches the blood stream and >is carried throughout the body. The Villi in the intestine are always >passing things back and forth, selectively in a more or less healthy body. >We do not know if CS is going through the villi in the intestine, but it >would be reasonable at this time to say that it does as the villi are not >as selective as say other barriers like the brain, if the particle size is >small enough. > >CS is an undifferentiating antiseptic solution that can be made in >different strengths called in this case parts per million. The particle >size of the colloid in solution depends on the way it is made and can vary >widely. The smaller the particle size the better perfusion. A red blood cell is 7mm large. The CS we are trying to make is 0.015mm large or so. To find this out you must send your solution away to be tested. Several labs have been mentioned here. There is a water quality lab in every state--several. They can generally do this work. Weight is a factor is dosing this. Most of us make CS without salt. Some use a "starter" from a previous batch. Most have found that CS made in exactly the same way each time is nearly the same in ppm and particle size. So far none of us is blue. Cs is great for sensitive teeth and then swallow it and in a week or so you will become uncomfortable and this is the herxheimer reaction--that is of course if you have yeast or other microbes that leave a toxin when they die. On the bright side, I just looked out and saw a mother black bear with her baby cub going for the raspberry patch. She is a young mother, a yearling most likely. Guess the big guy that got the fruit last year was pretty busy! She doesn't like it when you go out and threaten her with her baby--he is a doll!! About the size of a young husky dog. Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: yogurt and CS, AGAIN!
Jim, I'm glad you did this experiment and continue to try things like this for those of us who cannot. CS is NOT an antibiotic and is only touted as that by hype. Anything one reads about CS and there isn't much"science " on it says it is an anti infective or antiseptic, not an antibiotic and there is a large difference in the language. For instance bacteriostatic vs bacteriocidal, completely different actions in the body with fdifferent results. Fungistatic and Fungicidal are so different also. Thanks for the work! Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Update- CS Changing Color
Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 18:54:42 -0700 (PDT) From: "Philip Collins" To: Subject: Re: Update- CS Changing Color Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 21:52:15 -0400 > >(If you'd like to know a bit about me, I am a 60 yr old female psychologist, >with a stubborn case of systemic candida and two heavy medical diagnoses: >lupus and crohn's disease. I don't have HIV, but some of my clients do.) > >Whitney Collins Whitney, Check out http://www.rheumatic.org Blessings, Susan Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Silver levels in Biospecton Test
Hi, Do you have injections? Do you drink coffee heated in plastic, or anything. Look at the labels of cosmetic, hair poducts--lots of silicone. mAny supplements have silicon. Itall adds up. Any silicon prosthesis? Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
microwave and CS
Hi CJ, Just delete it. A person asked me to put it on the list. Of course it's so long you probably won't want to read it. The text is related to cs in that heating water in the microwave might not be a good idea--period, according to this study, "gagged" in Switzerland. Well controlled, it proves the molecular changes in nuked stuff including water and the stress the body undergoes when you feed it the nuked food, by measuring blood values after ingestion and digestion. Distilled water is what we use to make cs. I go to a moderate degree of effort to make my distilled water 001 ppm. I for one don't want to disturb the natural process of this with water molecularly changed by nuking. It may be a fine point, but if science is to be repeatable then these things might be well to take into consideration. It may actually educational. So this does have something to do with CS and were you to wade through it in the light of what truth must we have to preserve a healthy body, or help a sick one it might be more interesting! Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: microwave LONG
Hi ,Here's some on microwaves FYI Susan HuDelivered-To: clearwater.net-syen...@clearwater.net >Mailing-List: contact support-h...@rheumatic.org; run by ezmlm >Attached are some articles I found on the subject of microwaving food. >I used to use the microwave daily, but not any more > >Virg > >Re:The Hidden Hazards of Microwave Cooking > > * Messages sorted by: [ date ][ thread ][ subject ][ author ] > * Next message: Shane Smith: "RE: microwave?" > * Previous message: Beverly Allen: "Re: microwave?" > >Wed, 01 Apr 1998 20:38:36 -0700 >John Wilson (jon...@gcprime.com) > >Translated for Beverly: > >The Hidden Hazards of Microwave Cooking > >Recent research shows that microwave oven-cooked food >suffers severe molecular damage. When eaten, it causes >abnormal changes in human blood and immune systems.Not >surprisingly, the public has been denied details on these >significant health dangers. > >Extracted from NEXUS Magazine, Volume 2, #25 (April-May >'95).ne...@peg.apc.orgoriginally printed from the April 1994 >edition of Acres, USA.Back in May of 1989, after Tom >Valentine first moved to St Paul, Minnesota, he heard on the >car radio a short announcement that bolted him upright in >the driver's seat. The announcement was sponsored by Young >Families, the Minnesota Extension Service of the University >of Minnesota: "Although microwaves heat food quickly, they >are not recommended for heating a baby's bottle," the >announcement said. The bottle may seem cool to the touch, >but the liquid inside may become extremely hot and could >burn the baby's mouth and throat. Also, the buildup of steam >in a closed container such as a baby's bottle could cause it >to explode. "Heating the bottle in a microwave can cause >slight changes in the milk. In infant formulas, there may be >a loss of some vitamins. In expressed breast milk, some >protective properties may be destroyed." The report went on. >"Warming a bottle by holding it under tap water or by >setting it in a bowl of warm water, then testing it on your >wrist before feeding, may take a few minutes longer, but it >is much safer." Valentine asked himself: If an established >institution like the University of Minnesota can warn about >the loss of particular nutrient qualities in microwaved baby >formula or mother's milk, then somebody must know something >about microwaving they are not telling everybody. > >A LAW SUITIn early 1991, word leaked out about a lawsuit in >Oklahoma. A woman named Norma Levitt had hip surgery, only >to be killed by a simple blood transfusion when a nurse >"warmed the blood for the transfusion in a microwave oven"! >Logic suggests that if heating or cooking is all there is to >it, then it doesn't matter what mode of heating technology >one uses. However, it is quite apparent that there is more >to 'heating' with microwaves than we've been led to >believe. Blood for transfusions is routinely warmed-but not >in microwave ovens! In the case of Mrs Levitt, the >microwaving altered the blood and it killed her. Does it >not therefore follow that this form of heating does, indeed, >do 'something different' to the substances being heated? Is >it not prudent to determine what that 'something different' >might do? A funny thing happened on the way to the bank >with all that microwave oven revenue: nobody thought about >the obvious. Only 'health nuts' who are constantly aware of >the value of quality nutrition discerned a problem with the >widespread 'denaturing' of our food. Enter Hans Hertel. > >HANS HERTELIn the tiny town of Wattenwil, near Basel in >Switzerland, there lives a scientist who is alarmed at the >lack of purity and naturalness in the many pursuits of >modern mankind. He worked as a food scientist for several >years with one of the many major Swiss food companies that >do business on a global scale. A few years ago, he was fired >from his job for questioning procedures in processing food >because they denatured it. "The world needs our help," Hans >Hertel told Tom Valentine as they shared a fine meal at a >resort hotel in Todtmoss, Germany. "We, the scientists, >carry the main responsibility for the present unacceptable >conditions. It is therefore our job to correct the situation >and bring the remedy to the world. I am striving to bring >man and techniques back into harmony with nature. We can >have wonderful technologies without violating nature." >Hans is an intense man, driven by personal knowledge of >violations of nature by corporate man and his >state-supported monopolies in science, technology and >education. At the same time, as the two talked, his >intensity shattered into a warm smile and he spoke of the >way things could be if mankind's immense talent were to work >with nature and not against her. Hans Hertel is the first >scientist to conceive of and carry out a quality study on >the effects of microwaved nutrients on the blood and >physiology of human beings. This small but well-controlled >study pointed the fi
Re: What did I create?
From: clas...@usa.net Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 14:35:02 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: What did I create? You probably created CS. Can you test the ppm? Filter thru a natural paper coffee filter and store in the dark. I would suggest NOT using the microwave to heat your water. I got rid of my microwave after I read and was told by several people that the microwaves change the way water molecules cleave to foods, and the molecular changes that were being found in foods nuked. This I did because of my serious health problems--go to any lengths for health! However, it has been several months since I have had one and foods are definitely more delicious tasting, tho that is hardly scientific. I also am digesting foods i eat better. I got a flame-tamer and a steamer at good will. The steamer will warm most anything quickly. the flame tamer is used by putting it over the burner on the stove and then placing glass and other things meant to be heated but not broken by direct contact wth hot burners--been there, done that!---everyone needs one of these. You can better control the temp for CS, as well as the pressure cooker if you use one, which is another micowave substitute. Next thing will be a small toaster oven and I'm set and no microwaves changing molecules forever! I am not a scientist, this is my best GUESS! Blessings, Susan >What did I make this time? > >This is what I used: >Store bought distilled water by steam method >three 9v batteries in series (27v) >2 - 5 inch .999 silver rods >2 - 12v .075 amp light bulb connected in series > >connected all together in "normal" fashion >Water was heated (1 min in microwave) >rods were in the water about 3 inch >rods were apporx. 1/2 inch apart >Container was a opaque coffee mug cleaned and rinsed with distilled water > >I let it run 60 min. > >When the 60 min. were up, I disconnected the wires and removed the rods, >and this is what I found: > >One rod was completely black. >The second rod was covered in black/gray slime. > >Several large flakes? floating in the water. > >1/2 silver spot in bottom of glass. Difficult to scrape loose. > >After pouring the water into a clear glass, it was a noticable gold color. > >Daringly, I sipped it. It taked metalicy (sp?) > >Well, what did I make this time? > >What did I do right? wrong? > > > >Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >List maintainer: Mike Devour Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Pityriasis Rosea
.>Anyway, my 2 cents! > >Thanks all, > > >Kris > >I know this pales in comparison to some of the maladies that various >people on this list experience from day to day, but the itching and >sinus condition that accompanied my "affliction" was very uncomfortable ##Kris, there is no malady that produces any kind of a cross for someone that isn't important. the problem lies IN THE COMPARISON! would that i would never compare again! I kept a spray bottle >by my side and kept my neck moist as much as I could. Unfortunately, >the CS did not have the effect I was hoping for (which is why I think >that this "affliction" was not viral in nature). #CS will kill any pathogen, it is not selective like antibiotics. we sometimes think because we see the affliction on the "outside" that is where to treat it. taking CS orally would have been the admin. route of choice and perhaps spraying secondarily for "only" symptomatic relief. Week 5: After taking the Noni for a week, I noticed very little change >(although I felt more energetic and generally felt "better"). Again >frustrated, I chose to pursue yet another modality...Colonics. After >ONE treatment (I hadn't had a treatment in probably 10 years), 3 days >afterwards, the rash COMPLETELY disappeared. After another treatment, >the sinus condition disappeared as well. ### there is a growing AND documented body of info (especially understood by environmental docs) that a disease happens when the toxin level in the body reaches overload. the immune system and enzyne detox systems in the body cannot handle the laod and the nearest disease is allowed to invade, cancer included, i could go on and say that more and more we are finding microbes a causality in things. so the microbe is there but until you are "loaded up" nothing happens and you experience health. when you did the colonics you relieved your body of a great deal of adjuvant material and thus turned your ummune system back on. it is always good to support the body with well tolerated supp. such as noni in this case--must agree with you. the lesson here is to be a detective and notice the things in your environment that are toxic esp as they accumulate. i have read--always deparasitize--this does help ones sense of feeling well. then what about car/truck gas/diesel fumes, perfumes--esp "natural ones with orris root in them--do you wear cologne everyday? The water you drink, the air you breathe. the perfume in clothes detergent, dryer sheets, preservatives in the food you eat, eating prepackaged preparedfoods(some are so preserved they will be here in 1000 years, or of course you can preserve your body before you die and save on burial expences) ink in the printer, stuff at work--sick building? new things that off gaS FORMALDEHYDE and other noxious fumes that escape you now loaded up naso bulb and smelling capacuty. well hope you catch my drift here. congrats on giving yourself wellness! so to me your results were predictable and i of course pin your intuition in performing them on the Providence of God working in your life. Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: FW: CS Changing Color
Hi, probably no help, but copper is green cupric nitrate? just one. suppose your 'distilled water' had copper in it. or the rinsing of your jar was not done with distilled water. did you clean and rinse jar in tap water from copper pipes? strange but very possible esp if your distilled water had any contaminants and if your tap water is 'hard water' just thoughts. Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: Solar panels & CS
Hello, I believe the moderator had sufficient "off list" discussions with Daryll to take the action that was done. Am I right Mike? I have to watch things myself from being too "preachy" I know the facts and they work for me most times. When something works I want the whole world to benefit. It's the lead a horse make him drink thing. Mike is right about syntax using suggestions, personal testamonies. Sometimes I jump in without being asked so, we're human. However most times when both trains of thought are right we compromise and talk about this and that and finally arrive at a conclusion. When your fighting as hard as you can in the place were you've been put, where you live and breathe every day and someone steps on that inner place where your personal pride about yourself lives,(quiet, non verbal appreciation of yourself) then it hurts real bad. Most people get mad first, even when the spot inside is bleeding to death, but we get over it and go on and realize that we're still only human inspite of ourselves. A person once told me if I couldn't be humble, then I would be humiliated sooner or later. So I get humiliated now and then. I think it levels the playing field. The communication thing just keeps happening. Some are gifted, others have to try real hard. This is a good group!! Susan > >I have noticed that Cisco is well liked on this list (for good reasons), >and he has been consoled many times when people question his methods. >This is nice and it shows good camaraderie, but if it means that every >time disagreement occurs (even if it involves nastiness), we side with >the "preferred" list member, then we begin to limit our thinking and >exploration. There is NO ONE on this list that should claim to be the >authority on something that is still being investigated...it is not >healthy! >And if we begin to ostracize those with opposing views, we become no >better than the existing "authority" of the orthodox medical >establishment. Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: American Cancer Society
>-Original Message- >From: Reid Smith >To: Z >Date: Tuesday, May 26, 1998 5:07 AM >Subject: Re: American Cancer Society >> That's the same way I feal and one of the reasons that I started the >>Rife Foundation. Those turkeys know what we know and I'd bet anything >>I own agianst a donut that they know how to cure cancer but won't release >>the info because they are milking it for every dollar that they can get. **REid, They know what it is not--the cure that is. They are beginning to "have to" start announcing microbial etiology because the evidence is overwhelming. This makes their treatments null and void. Watch and see how the pharmaceutical co's get involved even more with this. incidently if it is approved by the fda it very well may be hazardous to living things--like homo sapiens! Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re:melatonin
>Debbie wrote: >> but my experience with melatonin is not that >>positive. If taken for more than a day or two , I wake up in the middle >>of the night somewhat wired. On many nights I will also have >>weird/bizarre dreams and this I have heard and read from others. > hello, yes, incipients in drugs can be terrible offenders, i find twin lab for chemically sensitive good for me. Also trhere are several compounding pharmacies in US that can make you a pure drug w/o incipients,color etc of any kind--so long as the original patent from drug co has expired. they are issued for so many years, i think it varies. benadryl is one--i have siezures with iver the counter, but nothing from compounded, also l-thyroxin--pure. the co is NOT required to list all of the "inert ingred" they are getting better but "no cigar" Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Distillers
Resent-Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 16:28:48 -0700 (PDT) From: "Joseph" To: Subject: Re: Distillers Did the info with your unit give any type of cost to make a gallon? Does it >have any other filters with it? How long does it take to make a gallon? Joe, no special info like that came. Takes about 2-3 hrs to make a gallon. perhaps a little less. i used it to heat kitchen in winter, you would want it outside or baSEMENT IN SUMMER. it has tubing you connect to a drain in front for flushing--i heat vinegar with lid off--boil a bit and drain--takes care of residue safely, then rerinse one more time. another tubing connects to output after coils where steam condenses, connected to that is a stainless tube with screen and acivated charcoal, then i put the end of that in clean rinsed glass container and walla distilled water! it automatically shuts itself off when water level is low, so i open top pour in more water and good to go. This is an old model, they have newer ones with reservoirs and so forth, for my purposes this works great! sorry so late to reply, sick with sepsis iv's helping 3 different ones think i was just this side of heaven there, attribute to all prayers for me and doc to diagnose. interesting is the Rife device was down when this exploded. so must have been keeping at bay, just never found the right MOR. sorry, do you know about Rife? many blessings to you my friend Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: nutrients
>Jim, > >Unfortunately I have not read these booksbut I find merit in these >concepts. Yet I have seen the killoff of verii and bacteriun from CS in >petri dishes at the University here. That is the reason the Prof's are >helping me. I believe in the body, however, it may react with different >MO. We do find it does kill the TB bacterium in the lungsbut then >again that is in an air culture (in the lungs) and not inside the blood >network system. > >This train of thought appears to be going in a proper direction although >many things also show Herx from the intake of CS. By increase of the >blood Ph and urine Ph we can tell that dead matter is floating around >and being disposed of by the liver. For those only using CS and not Rife >this could place a small wrench in this hypothisis..but maybe not. > >Cisco > >jein...@troi.csw.net wrote: >> HI, just a note, the gram neg rod serratia plymuyhica is more easily destroyed in the body with a more alkaline ph. ph<5.5 and no antibiotic will kill it--this research in med art. once not thought so seriuos and rare in humans, this is being disp[roven. Not as pop as cousin martcesecsn-sp? but that is what i have now sll over sepsis. not making much headway, th gent may be toostong--gentamycin. so i styarted taking bICARB ONCE a day, some diff. we'll see. Pray and remember the body is different everyone's is so postulate and educate but being a clinician who listens to ,pt and gets clues from body is imp. also pt listening to body to rtespond is imp too many sticks no veins left sdo going lomnline-can't tpe either one hand back to bed Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Distillers
>Would like to get some info on the various distillers being used out there. >Brand names, cost, any problems etc. > >I am looking for one. > >Thanks >Joe Hi, I have a used Polar Bear and It works great---used! Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Microbial disease causation
>>Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 03:04:58 -0800 >Chris wrote: chris...@xtra.co.nz An answer entitled: >: Re: Joint/Spinal Pain Problems(re: resistance) in answer to Mike >about the causes of diseasein fact, ALL disease?! Posts are >included at the end of the reply._> > >Susan answered this e-mail with this: You are leaving out the microbial >causes of disease! Much information from major University studies now are >shedding the light on this, The Most recent being the treatment of >Scleroderma with antibiotics such as Minocine/Doxycycline and others of >the tetracycline group and or the metronidazole/allopurinoll classes. >This is only the most recent. In the last 18 months it has ben reported >that a Chlamydia bacteria was found linked to heart disease in a "double >blind study"< of course H. Pylori for ulcers. Both Chlamydia pneumoniea >and a virus has been implicated in MS as well as in PCR testing the Lyme >spirochete has been found within the human RBC which is about 7mm large. >Hiding in an RBC where most never look. This was found in both MS pateints >and ALS patients. > > Arthrits, both rheumatoid and less so osteo(but still good results there) >have found to have micoplasma and or Amoeba and the joint fluid have also >revealed dead microoganisms.(various)(A swollen joint tight with swelling >makes it difficult to perfuse with oral antibiotics and thus an initial >trial with IV antibiotics to jumpstart the treatment) Brucellosis has >been implicated in several Central nervous system diseases. Rocky Mountain >spotted fever after initial hospitalization for Guillian Barre' disease >found to be an infection. I cannot think right now of all the studies and >organisms but they are out there and real.,documented and studied. Using >antibiotics. antifungal-parasistics for arthritis is not even new, but >finding a doc to do it is. Some are now having to acede to these things >as the evidence mounts. > >Go to http:rheumatic.org and read also >http://www.prosch.com/biomed/read1.html#treatment I think you must take >these into serious consideration if you are to be well. The Rife device >along with the original Royal Rife postulations of the 1930's appear to be >gathering steam here after all these many years. The difficulty with the >Rife at present is knowing the specific MOR of the organism. (mortal >oscillatory rate) This is being studied, not by mainstream peole but >courageous individuals who are doing it on their own and gathering headway >with their microscopes and so forth, a bloody, baudy wonderful group of >people with intestinal fortitude! Genetic engineering is done >using microbes which are predictable in their ability to disrupt the DNA, >tag and change it. A field burgeoning, well funded, but not to provide >all the answers. We know certain microbes can infect the DNA and disrupt >mitochondrial physiology. I believe we are closer than "no cigar" as the >saying goes. There is more than a smoking gun here. CAn we drag the >medical profession into the 21st century kicking and screaming whilst we >are being relieved of our pain and disability with a "first do no harm" >antibiotic? > >Look into these things seriously for your well being and education. You >might find something useful here for you. A choice for so many not >available heretofor. HOPE!! >] >GOD LOVE YOU >SUSAN >>)> >>> > >> >>>On 11 May 98 at 19:28, >>>Mike wrote: >>> At 08:19 AM 5/9/98 -0800, Don wrote: >Exellent well reasoned provacative postulations. Due to the fact that I >have not been blessed/cursed with conventionally structured higher >education, I ascribe to the theory that there are but four underlying >causes for all disease. >(1) Diet (2) Chemicals (3) Radiations (4) Emotions. Boy, I sure wouldn't limit the list to just these! We are born with a >>> >>>Have to agree here. >>> genetic structure that can be flawed, such as Down's Syndrome from parents with no indications themselves, so I would add "Genetics" to the list. "Accidents" including their side effects would also have to be mentioned; having a few problems with my spine myself I can tell you how much of a change a little crushed disk or two can have. (The chiros say "sure, we can help" but so far five have been unable to.) And so on. >>> >>>I found the combination of glucosamine sulfate, chondroitin sulfate, and >>>flax oil capsules dramatically improved pain from vertebra damaged during a >>>light aircraft accident. Nothing else made any substantial impression on the >>>problem. The problem has remained fixed for a few months now, with no >>>further attention. I've appended the original post. >>> I have seen several terminally ill people "pick up" in terms of vitality etc when diet and such are improved, yet the disease conti
Re: Organ detox
>I've heard of it Susan and sold some to people with arthritis. I can't say >whether it was the Boswellan or the Glucosamine in the product that helped, >but probably about 60-80 percent of those people have been repeat customers >and have reported some relief from joint pain. I think I have an >information brochure from the company around here somewhere if you would >like me to scan a copy for you (no strings attached). >Vern > Vern, Please do I woiuld really appreciate it! thank-you Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Organ detox
Hi, A bit off topic, but who has heard of/had experience with Boswellin. Sounds to good to be true for a finicky imune system such as mine. Need input. Doing a great job guys!!! Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Cisco?
Cisco is my friend of a year or so now. He's a great guy to talk with and good to help out with the questions I have re Rife. Makes massive amounts of CS for large things like wells and stuff. No medical care there,. Noone could afford it if there were. Hi Cisco if you see this1 Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: (Fwd) Argyria and blue people
Hi everyone About argyuria. I also finall got the picture. this poor woman has a story to tell. You are right in saying that no one know the product she took. I just will say this, She isn't young and says she took this as a child 40's be my guess. Sheis bluish. She looks unhealthy but if you were blue and angry and victimized maybe you too would. But she is still alive all these years in her blueness which is more than I can say for pink people who are dead b/c they weren't able to get adequate treatment or couldn't afford it which unfortunately is true of this country. Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: insight/herx
Whitney some more, Susan I feel really bad to keep hearing this. This is what I do for Herx whixh I nearly killed myself with once. I use: Digestive enzymes on an empty stomack--they go through the body and "eat up" trash like toxins and immune complexes--this is well documented now. I have done this for ten years--that's how many times I have had herx for Candida and whatever else. I take Mega Zyme by Enzymatic Therapy and 5 at once then 20-30 mins later 5 more. This WILL diminish your muscle pain and the twitching. You can continue until relieved, or sick to your stomach. The enzymes have worked as well or better than morphine. Molybdenum--250mcgms once to start aned then again amazing results alacer Emergen-C 2000mgms of vit C minerals stir into liquid fizzes, contiunue with the above upto whatever you can tolerate. Water in massive amounts. Soda water--Club soda read the label some have bicarbonate of soda in them and are great over ice when you are feeling so bad. COQ10 100 mgms 2-3X pewr day. Grape seed extract--the capsule 100mgms 2-3-4 times a day, or 2 at once with the enzymes for pain. You can also add the COQ 10 with it and it all workd together. Other antioxidants as you feel able or have on hand. You are probably saying right!? I'm so sick I can't even see and this woman is telling me to do all this stuff or even get it. Get someone to help you. OR When you are feeling better get these things and keep them on hand so that you won't be with out. when you are sick. I live alone so I have to be prepared especially when I know the results of what I am doing are more than likely going to cause me to herx!! You can take bicarbonate of soda now if you have some in a glass of water to help alkalinate the reaction. When you Herx you become more acid due to lots of factors not only just the toxins in your system. Your body is also producing catecholamines as a result of the insult these lead to inflammation of everything that can become inflamed. The problem here is that not properly taken care of this can become a cycle in itself. The enzymes will reduce the catecxholamines also. Hope this helps and your suffering eases soon. Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: insight/herx
Nick, I read a study in which heart disease pateints where given COQ 10- after by pass and the other half weren't the results showed 30% or so less recurrance os symptoms and morbidity in the COQ10 group it was alot of milligrams. Also friend is using it in conjunction with breat cancer treatment at the behest of her doc and taking 400mgs aday. I think that I still don't know the answers. I think you need to get online with the library or go browsing through Amazon.com and get some good well bibliogaphied books and teach yourself about this. then you would be informed about the truth. You could read all the pro's and cons. My doc who is feigning at being a liitle open poopooed COQ10, I find it helps me. Certainly the people who studied it wanted to know it it made a heart more efficient in the way it used oxygen. MSM is a sulpher. Look up in the library all the vegetables that are sulphur containing vegetables. I wager if they are grown organically or gosh who knows anymore. Iknow what i grow when I can grow is good b/c I put the minerals and kelp and cottoneseed meal into the soil--how do you know otherwise? Perhaps if they are fresh you have to trust you are getting the right thing. The only thing that boithers me about MSM is that is has methane molecule on the end of it.I simply don't know how that would affect me as is this manufactured to "be like" the sulpher we get mnormally and is the sulphur we get nomally methane??? Maybe someone knows. I use the things I do b/c I have researched them. I cannot at this time access that information imn my brain. I have gobs of stuff around here to get the "whole "picture but I am not strong i=enough to dgo through it again. I know what these do to me and why I take them and what my illness is and what is mainly wrong that needs help. I don't know yours, but you do and can know how these affect you. I take a couple of newsletters. Not the hype ones, they over the years have stimulated me to learn a little more. With the net and medline you should be able to access this stuff in your own home and print in out or get online with a University and get them to fax stuff to you. they are great!!! If I were really well and knew that I could put all your factors together I would say this or that. So far I use magnesium and COQ10 for my heart along with a little potassium now and then I don't know what to do for your heart or your BP. I am talking like this b/c it is hard for me to imagine anyway that antio=xidants can hurt a h=eart or blood vessel unless you area llergic to it. Perhaps it is with the pill and renders it inactive as it goes through the body cleaning up toxins and you see those drugs would be seen as toxins to the natural body system even if they control your BP. for instance digitalis leaf is a poison. For years it has been used to make the heart beat slower and with greater strength thus increasing ejection fractions. Good drug long old drug, The new guys didn't get the message that litle old people have to have dig levels done regularly and so their patients got digitoxic so they changed them to some other beta blocker or something in large doses, knocked em out, and said they were getting old and senile. The problem. too much drug. We rescued a little old lady from the nursing home who was "demented " all of a sudden(her daughter and me in spirit) took her off everything fed her hydrated her and got the right tiny little bit of medicine for her heart and she is home baking bread for the neighbors and walking to the post office everyday to get her mail. Seee!! So don't depend on me and my memory when you have all this stuff you can find out for yourself. It is empowering and you may save your own life or someone else's. Now detoxing I can tell you b/c I am doing it. See the difference. I hope you do. Good Luck Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: insight/herx
>Susan, One other question. Someone told me that the antioxidants may interfere >with the hypertension medication I am taking. The CS is working. I'm having >better days more often. Thanks for any info. Nick Nick, I don't know the answer. What was their reasoning? Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS and the stomach
Nancy, If the beano works for you the digestive enzymes i wrote about will probably work better, they are mnore comprehensive. You can use them for digestion or for the other things I wrote about. In the morning I drink a very large amount of something that is sweetened with stevia, or another sweetener NOT ASPARTAME--EQUAL WHICH BREAKS INTO WOOD ALCOHOL AND HAS CAUSED DEATHS! Your craving for sweets is like a heroin addict for heroin really!! The yeast want to be fed and they know how to get to you and they will get to you so bad that you will eat something purely seet just for some peace. Know anybody in AA? they might be able to help you in this area also--same difference, different disease. I somehow can get around this with stevia sweetened celestial seasons Ice Box Tea. Stevia does not feed Candida and is xx times sweeter than sugar. Try it. Also CS is an astringent so that if you take it on an empty stomach before you go to bed, you may eventually end up with some inflammation of the mucosal lining of your stomach. I use George's Distilled Aloe Vera Juice for this and then I don't take it that way. Be a little forgiving. If you are doing the right program 95% of the time then if you are absolutely forced to eat a sweet you will simply pay for it in die-off later. Eat frequent small meals--graze --that equal one per day of everything that you can eat. Eat different things everyday. The sulfer vegetables like cauliflower aid in not feeding candida and may increase your craving. My brain seems satisfied with the artifical so far. I use Club Soda also for Fizz--I love Fizz and seltzer water. I buy real black cherry concentrate from Vitamin shoppe--crushed cherries and pits and put it in the fizzy stuff--black cherries are anti parasitic and some anti fungal. I can black cherries to eat when I want some fruit serve two purposes. If I eat too many black cherries I will get sicky too. What is the answer? You just have to try stuff. Even when you eat. If you are very ill and have very little strength then eating later in the day is better b/c it takes a lot of energy to digest food. That is the way I am--admit it is not ideal. I eat once a day in the late afternoon,l otherwise, I have no strength to do anything else. I spend all my time until then drinking all these concoctions that I think up. I make blackberry juice from the mountain every year and I can get away with that and club soda--you'd think it was champagne!!! But it doesn't seem to advance my craving so I just balance. Of cours water is a given. A person said this to me, that if I just eat a little of what I crave then it will all stop and maybe that is what I need to do. Pickles are a nono but s/t a pickle will erase craving. Its what you can live with. If you have food allergies, enzymes will help also a book called If It's Tuesday it Must Be Chicken is a great starter for a rotating diet, teaches you, gives you choices and recipes. Rotating foods every four days or more has long been the best solution for allergies that are more univeral in the food area. If something really bothers you leave it out. I used to drink milk when I wanted sugar and it would go away like majic, Now I am allergic to milk. Roll with the punches I guess. Beef is a very usual allergen b/c you have proabably eaten it every week since you were born. Milk too and then corn. Good way to see how you do is to take all the things you ususally eat and put them away and substitute something you rarely ever eat for two weeks and see how you feel. Then add back in. If you can't get anyhthing to work there is always ultraclear, I rice based food supplement which is all you get for several weeks. It does not feed Candida and provides you with nutrition, you will have die off, but it may get your stomach a rest until you can get back on line again. Hope this answered your questions. Yes I am still a bit redundant when I tyupe!!! Susan >Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 14:07:04 -0800 >To: "Nancy B." >From: "Susan M. Yensen" >Subject: Re: insight/herx >> >>I've found great benefit in using "Beano" to eat various vegetables and beef >>fat (sorry, haven't given beef up yet!) >> >>I'm curious about other enzymes; my allergies are causing continual mild >>upset stomachs. It causes me to crave carbohydrates which is likely over >>feeding candida, contributing to more hunger... >> >>I think the CS is helping keep candida in check. Never the less, due to >>allergies, I wake up feeling famished and find myself munching on junk all >>day long. (Still no sinus infections despite a couple bad colds this year. >>CS has diverted them! I used to get SI 3 or a4 times a year!) >> >>Do you have any idea what's going on here & if an enzyme supplement can help >>with
Re: insight/herx
Debbie, I don't think I said anything about cooking, but starting with distilled water and no salt, the temp of rolling just barely stirs up and hastens the reaction. Temps around 180'F Susan >Hey Susan, > Your helpful hints on herx were great and I saved them. I am just out >of surgery three weeks ago and have had heck since then, kidney >infection, then bad reaction to the sulfa drugs so I might try your >regimen while I feel bad enough not to eat. I have battled toxicity >anyway and this is sounding like a grand way to help. > When you refer to cooking your CS, is this to increase the ppms or is >this in making of the main batch. Given the recent thread on larger ppms >meaning less effective particulate size, I am very interested as I had >been planning on getting one of the larger machines due to need for high >volume to treat the horses, now I don't know what to do, I will be >making CS all day if I have to use the methods that make low volumes??? > Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: insight/herx
>Susan, > >Tell me some more about these digestive enzymes that you take. I haven't >seen a thing about them cleaning out toxins and such and would be interested >to read anything that you could direct me toward. Are they Papaya, >Bromelain, and the like? I didn't quite follow the part about the candida >infections. Does the enzyme combat candida infection? I have a friend that >has a systemic candida infection and he can't seem to beat it. I would >appreciate any info that you could provide. > >Vern > Vern, I had the article and sent it with a friend so she would understand what I am saying to her. It has a good bibliogralphy for you. I will see if I can get it back from her and post it for you. Megazymes by Enzymatic tharapy are good for me b/c I can tolerate them whereas others I cannot that is why I say this brand. It is Pancreatic enzymes (10X) 325 mg (full strength undiluted and uncut) Units of activity* Protease 96,580 Amylase 98,780 Lip[ase 24,496 Trypsin75 mg papain 50mg bromelain (1.200 M.C.U.) 50 mg amylase 10 mg lipase 10 mg lysozyme 100 mg chymotrypsin 2mg About Candida, you can eradicate it with CS done slowly and carefully according to your health state. WHen a single celled organism, or parasite or the spirochete of which we read so much dies, it's death releases a toxin that was inside the organism heretofor. So when [people get treated for Candida and are not properlu educated about the Jarisch Herxheiomer reaction--the body'e reaction to the toxin released at the death of the organism, oftentimes they feel worse and stop taking the medication and may say they are allergic or whatever b/c we don't get the same thing painfiul reactions with antibiotic therapy for common micro organisms. As a matter of fact many doctors don't understand this. Funguses are very different creatures docs in 3rd world countries are the best at recognizing these things and treating them. Although we are catching up. Funguses have the ability to change forms according to their replication cycle and unless you are in this cycle they will not be found in the blood, they can be budding yeast which looks like cottage cheese or mycelia which can travel from organ to organ with out the use of the vascular system. When you are in this replication cycle you feel worse and crave sweets or fermented things. The yeast need more carbohydrate to live. Yeast Canndida and monilia are basically the same for the purpose of this post. What the enzyme does ON AN EMPTY STOMACH is get readily absorbed into the bloodstream and "eat up 'the toxins released by the dying fungi or spirochete. It is a good add on for treatment of Candida but will not kill candida. It will alleviate the pain as do the other things I delineated in a previous post. Now, the article had several subtitles and said in effect that in studies done--double blind no less that it has been found that they relieve the pain of inflammation better that then ensaids so commonly prescribed which are poison to me. They also discovered a use for these in autoimmune disease like MS and so forth is that they discovereed that the enzymes will also eliminate circulating immune complexes. this is important for peopole like me for instance b/c the immune complexes I have are anti myelin ones and attack the lining of the nerves and it is painful process. Also good in allergies for precisely the same thing they will digest allergens, reduce swelling (anti inflammation effect) tThe anti inflammation effect is accomplished as the enzymes soften and digest the fibrin and other substance and catecholamines in the infalammatory reaction, including arachidonic acid which is the culprit that causes pain. So It may be a while before I can get that bibliography up b/c I can't leave the mountain just now and I will have to get her to bring it to me. These also aid in digestion taken with food. Many people have malabsorption problems once things are set into motion of being a disease that is multi organ. Leaky gut syndrome needs to be addresed in you rfriend proabably after a long siege of intractable Candida. There is a special diet for that too. It is an ordeal but it can be done. Hope this answers your question for now. Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Personal Experience
I also live in TX and am wondering if the doc >you are using is near the Houston area. > >Peace to you, >Cathryn > Dr. John Parks Trowbridge lives near Houston in the Humble area. He used to do a lot with Candida is an expert on Herx but I think he is doing non surgical joint reconstruction now. Dr, Paul Farber of the book The Micro Silver Bullet lives in Houston and has an office on Hillcroft--not an MD ph# 713-772-3277 Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: insight/herx
Cathryn said: The pain is throbbing continuously in my legs (mostly lower) and >forearms and the tops of my hands. I am also still having twitches in my legs >that feels like a nerve thing. My throat is kind of sore but not like a real >sore throat. Neck is stiff and I have a dull headache. I am back to sleeping >alot due to the fatigue. Cathryn, I feel really bad to keep hearing this. This is what I do for Herx whixh I nearly killed myself with once. I use: Digestive enzymes on an empty stomack--they go through the body and "eat up" trash like toxins and immune complexes--this is well documented now. I have done this for ten years--that's how many times I have had herx for Candida and whatever else. I take Mega Zyme by Enzymatic Therapy and 5 at once then 20-30 mins later 5 more. This WILL diminish your muscle pain and the twitching. You can continue until relieved, or sick to your stomach. The enzymes have worked as well or better than morphine. Molybdenum--250mcgms once to start aned then again amazing results alacer Emergen-C 2000mgms of vit C minerals stir into liquid fizzes, contiunue with the above upto whatever you can tolerate. Water in massive amounts. Soda water--Club soda read the label some have bicarbonate of soda in them and are great over ice when you are feeling so bad. COQ10 100 mgms 2-3X pewr day. Grape seed extract--the capsule 100mgms 2-3-4 times a day, or 2 at once with the enzymes for pain. You can also add the COQ 10 with it and it all workd together. Other antioxidants as you feel able or have on hand. You are probably saying right!? I'm so sick I can't even see and this woman is telling me to do all this stuff or even get it. Get someone to help you. OR When you are feeling better get these things and keep them on hand so that you won't be with out. when you are sick. I live alone so I have to be prepared especially when I know the results of what I am doing are more than likely going to cause me to herx!! You can take bicarbonate of soda now if you have some in a glass of water to help alkalinate the reaction. When you Herx you become more acid due to lots of factors not only just the toxins in your system. Your body is also producing catecholamines as a result of the insult these lead to inflammation of everything that can become inflamed. The problem here is that not properly taken care of this can become a cycle in itself. The enzymes will reduce the catecxholamines also. Hope this helps and your suffering eases soon. Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Voltage and Current
Hi, thanks for the discourse you-all, gratifying and educational! Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Cs for Arthritis
Hi, There is another way to look at arthritis. That is that it is caused by a microorganism. A study begun in the UK and finished here found the Limax amoeba in the synovial fluid of every patien they did it on. They used the filtration method to find it., The filtration method is not widely accepted in the US. there was no arthritis in the european people of which we are decended until trade began with the far east(near east???) which ever. they traded spices, spices even today are allowed to have a certain percentage of vermin in them. In this case CS would help the arthritis and should produce a herx at some point. Just be slow and steady with it. Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: insight
Hi, About die off. Dr Sherry Rogers suggests using molybdenum for it. I have and it works! Also Dr Farber suggests using m0lybdenum for die-off and sells a combo product that I can't use b/c of my MCS, but you may be able too. So now besides water I use molybdenum 250mcgs in addition to the Alacer that I also take. I use grape seed extract and COQ10, salt water snizzles for the head and digestive enzymes to get stuff to the right place. And an alkalinating agent such a bi or tri salts. This combo is helping me at present with the discomfort. I take them and lie down and keep warm and in about 1 hour the ordeal is over. Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: insight
>Fred, >I can't seem to find the references to Fibromyalgia a the sight you list. >Was the info in testimonial form or based on some research? Hi a friend used to come to my house for rifing. We used the whole spectrum of freq that D.Tunney was using at that time. We never used any of the freq that cause "die-off" as she barely could get around and had to work. So we left off any candida and fungal ones but I will post this list for you and you can see for yourself. The list includes some freq we didn't use. At first we would stop using freq that made us uncomf, but decided once to see if it got better and generally it was over within ten minutes, we began to have nore results doing it this way. Susan >THE FOLLOWING IS BASED ON RIFE/BARE OUTPUT 80-90 WATTS AND SWR'S UNDER >2.0. USERS SHOULD BE NO CLOSER THAN 6 FEET AND NO FURTHER THAN 30. >These are the primary freq we use. We use them as in the sessions >adding as we need them. > >I use the freq I downloaded from turf's site for infections and so forth. >I don't have them stored, but you could easily get them. 5000 is good >immune always. 10K for pain 6K for muscle spasm/siezure type stuff. > >We follow all and run x3 mins. If we get a "hit" that is something feels >different or maybe uncomfortable we run for about 10-15 mins the length of >time it take sthe immune system to mount a response-the symptom is usually >resolved in this > >FIRST SESSION: >728, 1, 880, 800, 3176, 2720, 2184, 2128, 2008, 664, 464, 304, 120, >20 EACH X'S 3 MINUTES > >THESE TWO SESSIONS MAY BE BACK TO BACK FOR FIRST TIMERS (EG: TODAY AND >TOMORROW) > >SECOND SESSION: >728, 5000,880, 800, 3176, 2720, 2192, 2176, 2128, 2008, 664, 464, 304, >120, 20 EACH X'S 3 MINUTES > >Detox for two CLEAR days--evaluate success of detox > >Third Session: ( same as #1) >728, 1, 880, 800, 3176, 2720, 2292, 2120, 2112, 2008, 664, 464, 304, >120, 20 each x's 3 minutes >Detox for two CLEAR days - evaluate success of detox > >Fourth Session: >728, 5000, 880, 800, 3176, 2720, 2292, 2120, 2112, 2008, 664, 464, 304, >120, 20, each x's 3 minutes > > >MAINTENANCE SESSIONS > >5000 > >1 > >880 > >800 > >728 > >3176 > >2720 > >464 > >120 > >20 > >304 > >RUN EACH FOR 3 MINUTES > > >ORIGINAL RIFE FREQUENCIES > >PROBLEMFREQUENCY > >Arthritis 880, 800, >784, 728, 10,000 > >Bacterial Infections 832, 800, 784, > >Blood Pressure 880, 728, 304 > >Candida464 > >Catarrh5000, 880, >800, 728, 1234 > >Eye Disorders 350, 360, 400, 728 > >Fatigue424, 664, >464, 120 > >Gallstones 3,000, 880, 728 > >Headaches 520, 304, 144 > >Kidneys1865, 1600, >440, 248 > >Lumbago880, 800, >728, 300 > >Motion Sickness648, 624, >600, 464, 440 > >Pancreas 1552, 648, >624, 600, 464, 440 > >Pharyngitis1552, 880, >800, 784, 776, 728 > >Pineal Gland 666 > >Prostate 2720, 2128, >2008, 728, 664, 408 > >Psoriasis 112, 104, >96, 64 > >RUBELLA784 > >Rubeola784 > >Shingles 1864, 1800, >1552, 800 > >Stiff Muscles 880, 728, >328, 300 > >Stomach880, 784, >728. 664 > >Tinnitus 880, 784, 728 > >Thrush 464 > >Trauma 3,000, 760, 300, >192, 96 > >Ulcers 832, 800, >784, 776, 664 > >Worms 128, 96, 72, 20 > >UPDATED FREQUENCY LIST > >PROBLEMFREQUENCY >Sedation or Pain Relief304 > >Lyme Disease 432, 484, 610, >690, 790, 864 * > >Heliobacterium Pylori 676 > >/Cancer cell found in Multiple Myeloma 728 > >Flu
Re: Grammatically correct
I don't have any kind of anything that is helpful on my e-mail program I am lucky it works! I do however always make allowances for those who aren't so good in the spelling area. sometimes it is a boo boo and sometimes it is b/c the person can't spell so good. Personally I think it is Charitable to understand that not everyone has the same gifts in the same area and try not to be critical. You know in the old days I would have said "who died and made you God?" but of course that is most uncharitable to you and I don't think that way at all now. Getting to understand my own frailties and misdemeaners has made me more aware of just how fragile we all are. I am so grateful for the help of people whether they spell OK or not that I just can't tell you. In the end of course it isn't going to come down to whether or not you could spell or even how smart you were or weren't but how much you loved and that is such a wonderful goal for a life. Isn't it? Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Bladder Problems, need help
The answer to this question is hidden in the post--sorry. very unclear--you mean you can't read my mind? If you have any problems with the sodium bicarb, in other words trouble with the salt, use calcium carbonate and potassium bicarbonate 2:1 This technique is safe on a one or two time basis. Usually works in one or two doses, however, if you are warned by Doc to avoid salt and are cardio puomonary compromised or renal compromised then use the BISALTS as described in this post. They do not contain sodium. NACL the culprit in edema ***> >Saw your posting on bladder problems and am curiuous/concerned regarding >possibly inducing an electrolye imballence via ingesting large amount of >sodium >bicarb and water?? Is this techniques safe for all or just thise not on any >cardiac/anti-hypertensive meds? > >> So when you have >> symptoms take a teaspoon of baking soda in a large glass of water every >> 20-30 mins until your syptoms go away(symptoms are burning urethra, burning >> when urinating, aching in the pelvis--you know the drill) Oh and keep >> drinking gobs of water this whole time to get the stuff where it needs to >> be. >> >> I Well we know to alkalinate the body helps rid it of allergic reactions and >> the first line is sodium bicarb, calcium carbonate and potassium >> bicarbonate all mixed together they are called tri-salts. Without the >> sodium of the bicarb of soda they are called bi-salts. You should be able >> to get these at a drug store and make yourself. Use 1/2 potassium >> bicarbonate than the other two. so like 1/2 tsp soda bicarb, 1/2 tsp >> calcium carb. and 1/4 tsp potassium bicarbonate. Or just use baking soda >> if the salt doesnt bother you. the three together are nice because of the >> calcium, and in liquid form in small amounts they are absorbed. >> > > > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >List maintainer: Mike Devour Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: use of silver for cpms
>Susan ; >Peter here. Thought that I would write and see how you are and how things >are going for you with the c.s. >I am well into the third week of it and cannot really see a difference but >hey am willing to give it a good scouts try as long as the side effects >aren't as bad as some of the stuff that I have tried. Didn't realize that >you were a nurse till I saw one of your posts . **Peter. sorry so long in getting back. I am having flare-up, but maybe it is die-off. whategver it is is violent and I am exhausted from it and just now feeling a little better but with sweats and chills again so am actually going to the DR on Mon just by chance he might be able to helpo figure this out. The CS you will have to take for quite awhile, I think eventually you will get die-off from it. It took a while for me and then wham bam it hit me so be prepared. I am in a resting from everything period right now to recoup. * I have an under graduate in >microbiology and did a graduate paper in epidemology on m.s. before I had a >clue how bad it can mess a person up and before I fell victim to it. Still >am as confused as ever on what I should do / attempt/think. The paelolythic >diet seems a bit drastic and till I can find corroberation from a few >sources am sitting this one out. I like my cereals/ bread/ etc.etc. too >much for that. >If the cs helped then can you please tell me what time frame it took. ***As I said It was into the 4th week and then I started with die-off. However, until that time I had been geting better each week. This is indeed hard to figure out at times. I got very sick. I think the die off caused my sinus on left to get plugged and I couldn't keep it open with CS or salt water or nutrabiotic. Then I started having headaches which I don't usually have and a cold left face, like I had to lie down and wrap up. All my joints became inflamed and swollen. I consented to a quinalone antibx for the head and it started all the symptoms into remission. Which is indeed too strange and the only thing we can think is that I got toxic and then septic. This is the danger in dealing with this stuff and being already compromised. I would say I would have been fine had I gone slower and not increased the dose after the 3rd week. So there you have it what to do and what not to do. I think in the end I will be better, but right now I am exhausted and tired from being in this particular predicament with this particular pain for this long. >Specifically what frequencies did you find beneficial with the riffe >machine. That to me is something that appeals to the "chicken " me. Don >Tunney sure is a honey isn't he? **Yes, Don is a honey!!! I ran all the frequencies Don is using plus some other ones. I used the R/B device everyday so I saw results better and more pronounced and consistent. Right now I am not using it and I should be, but I have been too exhausted to be frustrated and I can't be clear when I am sick like I have been. I can't put up with anything either. Things that I would ordinarily overlook I address with vehemence and sometimes that is good, but usually it is better for me to pray and stay still until I have gotten over that particular part of this type of thing..In truth probably I say what I mean without giving the other person all the benefit of the doubt I usually would. No patience at all. this time has been bad because I insisted upon doing something everyday to a certain extent and I just got things all mixed up from one day to the next. Today I am not in so much pain, more just tired all over so here I am expressing myself. this affects your brain and it is good for people to know that! For instance, I picked up my DMM which I have been using for a year and looked at it and had no idea what it was about. I read the book about it and I couldn't remember that either. I am not out of the woods yet and so I'm not fiddling with electrical things. This is the time I wish I could wave a white flag and have someone come help me with this R/B device! *** >Have arranged for a mitoxantrone course but want to give the cs a scouts >try first.That is why I ask about the time frame** Methotrexate >will kill your immune system! I think you have to look at a long range thing with the CS and the R/B together. I think 6 mos to a year wouldn't be outside too much! * >Was in to get some pastoral counselling today and think that there was a >bit of headway there. ie. the concept of spirit, another dimension when >questioned about the after life, and grace. Sure is a long uphill battle >for me to let go or should I say return to a faith that I can grasp >intellectually. Don't know if I will ever totally get there but who knows. * When I depended upon my intellect to get closer to God it helped me in the understanding of intellectual things. God is all Love, He is all
Re: Bladder Problems, need help
Lois, I do not know about how CS bothers your bladder unless it is some kind of an immune response or as CS is an antiseptic if it makes it raw, like too much antiseptic on anything might do. I had terrible bladder problems and still do if I get exposed to something that choses to eliminate itself via my bladder. I was told all the things about cranbery juice and so forth and that never worked, but then most things don't work for me--alas. Then I was given a book about 7 years ago by a woman who had had bladder problems and cured them using this female physicians suggestions. I do no know the name of the book and not in touch with the person who gave it to me but I will tell you the gist of what it said and I have told others and this has worked for them. This MD was the only woman in Calif i believe who used these techniques or was cleared for some of the things she did. One thing right off the bat that she said that was totally different than anything I had ever heard and I am an RN and was skeptical at this point was this: Do not use cranberry juice to acidify the urine in your bladder. Shock? Why not? She claims this (her specialty was to treat interstitial cystitis--a very painful disease) that the urine is sterile. When it becomes infected we have symptoms and sometimes have symptoms when it is not infected but inflamed. She said that bacteria have to live on something to replicate. In the bladder they only have urea to eat.( A natural byproduct of kidney filtration) Urea and alkalinity cannot exist at the same time. So when you have symptoms take a teaspoon of baking soda in a large glass of water every 20-30 mins until your syptoms go away(symptoms are burning urethra, burning when urinating, aching in the pelvis--you know the drill) Oh and keep drinking gobs of water this whole time to get the stuff where it needs to be. I thought she was nuts, then I got an "infection" symptoms of and I tried it and prayed and guess what it worked!! To this day I defy everything the urologists have ever told me--I don't go anymore to them and do this if and when I have symptoms including bladder spasms. Well we know to alkalinate the body helps rid it of allergic reactions and the first line is sodium bicarb, calcium carbonate and potassium bicarbonate all mixed together they are called tri-salts. Without the sodium of the bicarb of soda they are called bi-salts. You should be able to get these at a drug store and make yourself. Use 1/2 potassium bicarbonate than the other two. so like 1/2 tsp soda bicarb, 1/2 tsp calcium carb. and 1/4 tsp potassium bicarbonate. Or just use baking soda if the salt doesnt bother you. the three together are nice because of the calcium, and in liquid form in small amounts they are absorbed. So, it is that simple. I f you are sick your body is ususally more acid anyway catecholamine production and all. so. Also do not wash your perineum iwth a washcloth just use soap and your hands--no cantamination from the cloth that way. showers are better, if you soak in a bath use sea salt in it or magnesium salts The Shwoer massage with the long enough cord is a good way to get rinsed really well after a shower. Use cotton underpants or none at all when you can get away with it around the house.. Watch and see what foods irritate your bladder and stop eating them. Buy aloe vera juice and drink alot of it all day every day until your bladder inflammation goes away. Be sure that the opening to your bladder is not obstructed and urinate when you have to ,do not hold it which should be alot because you drink a lot of filtered water. Get a filter for your shower to get the chlorine out and also you sink for drinking wter--very bad chemical for bladders and they are useing more of it--you will sleep a lot better. Lay on your back and bring your knees up to your chest and hold onto them with your arms,and roll around that way to give the nerves off your cord to your bladder a rest. All the nerves to your genito-urinary system come off the cord at the same place so sometimes you get undifferentiated stuff. Don't sit any where too long. Long trips need all the measures done and good potty stops, Can't think of any more right now but ask if you will and I'll see what I can come up with. Oh, another important point as we age we sometimes have less vaginal lubrication. This may not be noticeable on the outside but the wall of the vagina inside gets sort of quenched and irritated and guess what? It causes the very next thing it touches inside you--your bladder to hurt and have symptoms. the way to find out if this is the case is to but some KY jelly and an applicator and put it into your vagina 1 full applicator and kinda move it around so it is distributed up high there. Might not be a bad idea to douche with some acidophillus or betadine if you aren't allergic and then start out on this adventure. Be sure to wear a minipad because it will fall out, but it
Re: FAQ from March 23 silver list.
***Yes and Yes. I am so glad that you have taken the time to put a little truth into the pudding and we stir along here. Congratulations! We are all just so wonderful but nobody knows it til we say something, (unlessyou catch my hoof and mouth disease) but you could cure is with CS!!!*** discounted "golden" colsilver-black, in the form of soot it is pure black and nonreflective. Silver in fine suspension may have a color unrelated to that of the bulk metal because of the way it scatters light. The sky is blue not because the gases in the air are blue, but because they scatter blue-range light more efficiently than the other colors.Yellow color of a colloid is not necessarily the sign of impurities. Where does Mr. Miller believe he is getting exotic ions such as picrate and hyponitrate (or nitrite, which is separately mentioned but no different) or even bromide and iodide, from a starting material of pure silver and distilled water?Following is the original posting from Mr. Miller: Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Mild Silver Protien
Probably a pruduct manufactured by a company under the auspices of Dr. Paul M. Farber, B.A. B.S. M. a. M.s. N.D. PhD. D.C. quite an educated fellow who cured himself of Lyme and at least stopped the progression of his M.S. It is ideal in that I think it does have other minerals in it but as an MCS pt I couldn't use it b/c of something that was in it or perghaps the molybdenum product they also make for die-off symptoms. The Book He wrote is called the Silver Bullet and is distributed by MYCA Inc @ 9639 Hillcroft 3117(my old stomping grounds) Houston, Texas 713-772-3277 www.silverbulletgold.com. Houston has recently changed their area codes around due to the high cellular volume so if the 713 doesn't work try 281 I talked with him and decided I couldn't afford it but he also has C Gold which has stabilized psychiatric disorders I believe. It's a long process to health and a lot of work(and money) The CS they make is indeed combined with EDTA EDTA is what is used to chelate out heavy metals in medicine in a box. I believe it has merit. One thing with this is that is would get out of the body and not accumulate. I do not know however how long it stays in the body in e first place though/ It would indeed be interesting to have some "homemade" and compare this to that. But this isn't a perfect world--except up here on the mountain He discovered that molybdenum erased die-off and their molybdenum has some other herb things in it. Since I spoke with him I have delved into (or The Lord did) some other things and learned that indeed molybdenum is the thing for die-off. It can however be bought as molybdenum piccolinate from various sources Hop[e this helps and yes your friend probably was bedridden at one time, the ole spirochete just loves the CNS. Also a report was filed here not long ago stating that the spirochete liked to hide out inside the RBC, thus making PCR the way to test Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Clear or Golden?
AMEN, AMEN, AMEN, AMEN ** >We need to, as you said, stop batting the same old this is better and that is >better and get back to what works and what doesn't work. The medical world is >not going to give us a hand, and that is a fact. We need to share and use our >own minds. > >Thanks for your posting. It has renewed my hopes that some day we will band >together and head for a better life where and when CS is useful. >t> Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: How to calibrate a ppm meter...
>On 27 Mar 98 at 10:34, Fred Walter wrote: > >> >From: "M. G. Devour" >> >To do the latter, you need a standard solution > >> Can you give me a few more details? ... I'd rather not spend $24 >> CDN ($15 US) to buy calibrating solution from them if there is some >> easy obvious way of making it. > >I haven't done the figuring yet, but I assume you could take a >gallon of distilled water and add a level measuring spoon full of ON 27 MAR SUSAN WROTE: .9% NaCl is saline. that is compatible withthe body and can be given intravenously without any problem. So all you have to do is figure XNaCl x 240cc's(1 cup)=.9%NaCl and you have a reproduseable standard Or go to a hospiotal and swipe some IV .9NaCl and use it for a standard. Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS prosystems,are they in the know ?
ryb, Who is they What are you talking about? Susan > >Also DC produced CS at low current is not that good...(this is what they >are saying) > > Thus where does that leave us ? > >And the PPM meter is not a ppm meter after all.. > >The site of Amazing Devices(lost their URL...) has a CS generator for about >$149 I think,running on AC..Has anyone check it up ? > > Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS: some FAQs for you - comments
Hi, Ok here's a question from a non linear mind Where do I touch the probes from my DMM to tell the readings that you are talking about? I don't want to mess this up. Thanks Susan > >the conductivity of the solution will relate directly to it's >concentration in PPM- the total quantity of water is'nt an issue; >electrode immersed length, separation, applied voltage, and temperature >will all affect the initial current reading, but once you test a >solution of known concentration in your setup, you can then always *stop* >the generator process at the same current reading to get the same >concentration. (With the bulb in circuit on most 27 volt systems, the >current is limited to what that bulb will pass, 35 to 40mA, so the >current won't climb any higher - but as I pointed out in the previous >post,* I use a cutoff of 8mA at 15 volts* supply with 3-1/4" of electrodes >immersed, separated by 1/2"between them. Every batch run at about 180 >degrees F comes out the same concentration - I'll try to have lab Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: What about colloidal gold?
Hi everyone, gold shots were and are still in some therapies used in rheumatic diseases esp arthritis--the painful kind. I don't know what else it does, but it is know to relieve pain. In which case I am all for it. Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: What about colloidal gold?
Hi Reid, This was a probelem in one situation with an overdosage of gold made with salt! I am not at all sure how gold accumulates and so forth or if someone who is in terrible pain would OD on it? I'll give a look in the older medica's to see what they did back then. Back to the future. I do believe that Gold should be made without salt. I do know that salt was in the solution in the case you quoted. But then we get smaller particles with the colloid without salt and a more stable solution so why not gold. Be neat to have an old alchemist around. Be neat for an alchemist that old to be able to be around here and share~! Blessings, Susan * >Does anybody *object* to hearing more about Colloidal Gold? I *think* >>it would be okay. We've talked some about it before. >>I don't recall the CG having quite the broad applicability of silver, >>so it needn't overwhelm us and we can learn some new things! >>The question certainly comes up enough, I'm sure we'd eventually want >>at least some links for CG on the web site. >>Thoughts, all? > > I believe someone posted that Gold was toxic or something about it >burning the person up from the inside. > >Take Care > >Reid Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Cleaning Utensils Used to make CS
Re: cleaning. Salt is the antidote, so we used to clean those awful coffee pots in ICU-the would burn dry with salt and ice. Maybe salt and ice swished around in your beaker or bottle would do the job non toxically? Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: OK, I made CS - Questions
* >> In addition, the stomach acid is hydrochloric acid. Silver >> chloride is insoluable in water so the silver, being too large to >> be absorbed as colloidal silver, would not be absorbed into the >> body and would pass through the gut and out the other end. No >> problem. > >So... What is it about silver salts that causes argyria when ingested >in sufficiently large amounts? I believe it is the insoluble salts >that precipitate in the tissues. You're assuming the NaCl is >segregated in the gut and doesn't absorb? > >Of course our total consumption is orders of magnitude less than >required to produce argyria. That alone is sufficient reason for >confidence? ** Hi, I posted the 1916 Medica so one could see different things. It was a lot and single spaced. However. the antidote mentioned there was to give sodium chloride, if one suspected silver poisoning. Most of the silver was silver nitrate at least that was used topically in varying concentrations. so I guess that NACL combines with silver colloid/any silver? to be gotten out of the body. The salt solutions that are colloid are larger particle. They also leave he body quicker. In the EDTA"protein Silver that is sold, one must remember that EDTA is used to chelate out heavy metals in the body when given IV. Interesting No? Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Help me build CS generator - Please
Hi, this is an excellent letter and I appreciate your reposting it as I must have missed it in the past. thnks, susan > >I have been involved with selling and making CS for 6 years and lately >have been making and selling a few devices to make the stuff as well as >the Dr. Beck blood electrifiers. I thought the letter I gave given to a >few people to get them started in making and using CS might help you. >What it does not say is that you need a source of pure DC current at 24 >to 40 volts. The units I sell use 120 volts AC and convert it to 30 >volts of ripple free DC current. Colloidal silver does not like ripple >in the DC current. You could get the job done just as well with 2 or 3 >automobile batteries hooked up in series. For what it is worth, here >is the letter. Good luck: > >Dear Friend, > > In this letter I will attempt to tell you some of the potential >ways you can use the devices Dr. Bob Beck has designed. Of course, this >is all very theoretical. I can speak of these things only as one >researcher sharing ideas with another since no one can legally make any >pronouncements of advice for anyone else's health unless they have been >licensed by the government for that purpose. It is also common >knowledge that everyone is different. Therefore, everyone will get >somewhat different results when they apply these things to their health. > The first thing I would like to tell you is what I have found to >be the easiest way to produce high quality colloidal silver. This >method is very simple and has worked every time. I have never had a >failed batch. Very few people can claim that. > The first thing is to start with 999 fine (99.9% pure) silver. >You can use silver rounds or silver wire. You can use silver of higher >purity such as fine (or 99.99% pure) if you wish, but that is not >necessary. > The next thing you need is distilled water. In an emergency you >can use tap water but it is not recommended as the size of the silver >particles will be larger and it will react with the impurities in the >water and settle out. It must, therefore, be consumed immediately. > The same thing will occur if you put salt in the water to speed >up the process. No one who really knows what they are doing would use >anything but pure distilled water. It may take a little longer but the >results are worth it. > Take a glass coffee maker pot (pick up at D.I. or Goodwill for >about $5) or similar heat resistant glass container and put the >distilled water into it. Make sure the pot is very clean. Rinse it out >with distilled water. Fill it to the desired level with distilled >water. > Place the pot on the stove and bring to a rolling boil. When it >reaches a rolling boil, turn the burner down until the water is bubbling >at the bottom of the pot but not at the top. That will cause the water >to stir in the pot which makes the process work faster and better. > Put the silver into the water so that the alligator clips are >not in the water. Put the silver electrodes somewhere between 1/2" and >1" apart. The closer together they are, the faster the process will go. >However, if they are too close together, especially if the water is not >being stirred, crystals of silver will bridge the gap between electrodes >and short the power supply out. That will not hurt the power supply but >it will stop the process of making colloidal silver. > Plug the unit in and watch the show. You will see the water >change gradually to a pale yellow then get progressively darker as time >passes. How dark you let it get is a matter of personal choice. The >longer you let it go the darker it will get until it turns a soupy brown >color. You can stop it at any time. > Store colloidal silver in clean containers. Use glass >containers if at all possible. Colloidal silver will tend to plate out >on the walls of most plastic containers. It will plate out on glass >containers too but not nearly to the degree that it does with plastic. > If at all possible, store it in dark glass bottles or in a dark >place. Silver is light sensitive. Colloidal silver is degraded by >light. > You also want to avoid letting your colloidal silver suspension >freeze. Freezing will cause the colloidal silver to settle out all or >in part. Freezing might also cause it to break the containers. > If you make a concentrated suspension of colloidal silver, you >can dilute it with distilled water. A few quarts can be diluted to make >many gallons of beautiful golden colloidal silver. Colloidal silver >stores better if it is not too concentrated. If storage space is not a >problem, I would dilute most of my batch for daily use. I would save a >small part of it in very concentrated form for use while traveling. > I would also suggest a way of dealing with major epidemics of >airborne infections. When it becomes obvious that "something is in the >
to Dameon et al, A history of silver 1916
>Hi, this is taken from the below mentioned book. I is very old 1916 and >as you MUST see alot of these things are harmful as we know today. This >in no way is any kind of advice to anyone. It is merely an historical >view at the various metals and how they were used in medicine. I truly >believe some people must have died because of the treatment, but that is >history now. The *Albumin they are discussing here may indeed me >leuckocytes or other protenaceous material that they were able to identify >in 1916. I cannot say for certain the power of their microscopes but >those on the Rife list will understand the they certainly were not very >powerful and the whole microbial arena was only beginning to brugeon at >this time. So do not take this as any kind of medical advice but a look >at the past and what they did and especially in the area of silver since >that is what we are interested in here. Please note that the * sign >generally indicates toxic/harmful as we know today! >*** >*** > >Materia Medica for Nurses by A.S. Blumgarten, MD New York /the MacMillan >Co 1916 >Drugs Acting Principally On the Skin and Mucous Memebranes > >Local Remedies: Astringents affect the tissues only locally by combining >with the proteins or albumins of the cells and thereby coagulating and >hardening them. In large doses excessive coagulation of the proteins of >the cells destroys the tissues; this effect is called caustic action. > >Astringents may be divided into two subgroups depending on the nature of >the substance used for this purpose. INORGANIC OR MINERAL ASTRINGENTS or >ORGANIC OR VEGETABLE ASTRINGENTS > >INORGANIC OR MINERAL ASTRINGENTS: the principal salts for this purpose >are the salts of lead*, aluminum*, zinc, copper* silver and bismuth.* >Mercury,* iron and arsenic* are also astringents but these are used >principally for their effects after absorption*--we know this effect as >poisoniong today!!! >The best astringents are those not readily absorbed, such as silver, >bismuth*, copper* and zinc. the two latter substances are the most >effective astringents. In strong solutions they destroy tissue. >the salts that are readily absorbed are mercury,* iron, arsenic* and >lead.* Lead* is the only one that is used as an astringent, the others >are used for their effects after absorption.-Makes you wonder how >anyone survived! >ACTION: Mucous membranes are contracted, and their secretions checked, >by coagulation of the albumins of their cells. >INTERNAL ACTION: In the mouth they have a sweet mettalic taste, and make >the mouth feel dry by contracting mucous membranes. >In the stomach and intestines: They check the secretions and lessen >peristalsis, thereby causing constipation. They combine with the protein >of the food which is not then readily digested. >ABSORPTION: The mineral astringents combine with the albumins in the >stomach and intestines forming albuminates. If they are readily dissolved >then they are readily absorbed. They do not produce effects unless given >over a prolonged period of time, when they may become depostied in the >various tissues of the body and serious poisonous symptoms may develope. >These will be considered individually. >EXCRETION; The metallic astringents that are absorbed are very slowly >eliminated from the body: in urine, the bile, the intestinal secretions, >the saliva and the milk. > >POISONOUS EFFECTS OF METALLIC SALTS (These may be what should be >considered overdosage today with colloid)* >When large doses of any of the salts of any of the metals are taken, the >following symptoms occur: >Burning pain in the mouth. the mouth may be covered with a grayish white >membrane, especially after taking silver preparations. >Severe Abdominal pain >Nausea and Vomiting. Often the vomited matter contains blood. >Diarrhea with bloody stools >Collapse >Coma and Death > >TREATMENT >Wash out the stomach >Give egg white or old tea to combine with the metal and neutralize it. >These substances protect the mucous membranes of the esophagus and stomach >at the same time. >Collapse is usally treated with stimulants. >Give the chemical antidote > >CHEMICAL ANTIDOTES FOR SOME METALS: >Leaddilute sulphuric acid >Silver Nitrate-Sodium chloride >Alum---Magnesium Hydrate or Ammonium Carbonate > >METALS >Silver (Argentum) >The only salt* of silver that is used to any extent in medicine is silver >nitrate. Silver has been used in medicine for centuries, particularly by >the Arabians, who use it extensively in the treatment of nervous diseases. >In their system of medicine, which was based on Astrology, silver and >nervous diseases were associated with the phases of the same planet, the >moon; hence the name lunar caustic* for silver nitrate. > >CHRONIC SILVER POISONING >Argyria is a condition which resuolts from prolonged use of silver salts*, >but the condition is not very common at th
