[RCSE] Thorn Substitute
Dear Gordy: Solid lead would be easier to work with. Softer, and no splinters. Sort of a lead sled. I thought I had a source lined up for surplus Chinese lead ingots, but it turns out they were contaminated with toys. Tom H. Nagel Judicium Procurator Recuperatio
[RCSE] A little perspective, please
Soaring is not everything. It just seems like that. Turn the sound up and get a grip. http://dingo.care-mail.com/cards/flash/5409/galaxy.swf Tom H. Nagel Judicium Procurator Recuperatio http://dingo.care-mail.com/cards/flash/5409/galaxy.swf
[RCSE] [RCSE]Jack Abramoff reports late to Cumberland Slope Fly
According to news reports, disgraced uber-lobbyist Jack Abramoff has shown up ten days late for the Cumberland slope for fun event. Tom H. NagelColumbus, OHhttp://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/nation/4336348.html Jack Abramoff reports to Md. prison Chron.com - Houston Chronicle.url Description: Binary data
Re: [RCSE] Invisible Models
Martin: This thing appears to be a powered radio controlled boomerang!As a one-time boomer builder, I am impressed! Tom - Original Message - From: Martin Usher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 2:16 AM Subject: [RCSE] Invisible Models I came across this new type of UAV:- http://veratech.aero/phantom.html It seems to be a very odd looking sort of model helicopter that's designed to spoof the eye into thinking that its not hovering in front of your face. Its not a sailplane, of course but its interesting that its possible to build a flying device that can trick our eyes into not seeing something that's there (since I seem to spend a lot of time when flying looking for something that's there but it seems to have disappeared!). Martin Usher RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Pike Superior pulls out a squeaker over Flamingoid
MOSS held its umpteenth annual "Hanford Memorial " contest last night. It doesn't have anything to do with nuclear waste facilities, fortunately. Ed Hanford years ago laid down the challenge: "I'll bet $5 I can outfly anybody in the club after 6 p.m." So each August 24th we go out and try, and the longest single flight after 6 pm wins the trophy, which is Ed's $5 bill, framed for presentation. Lift last night was scarce, but we had about 20 club members and a few spouses on the field. Paul Wiese did 5:05 with a Pike Superior in essentially zero lift conditions. That was the mark to beat. I found a soft bubble with the Infamous Flamingoid and did 6:45, and for the first time that I can remember, I was in the lead in a club contest. Paul came back and squeaked past me with a mere 21+ minutes, finding the only real thermal of the night. The 6:45 held up for second. Todd Anderson kicked my butt at Air Hog, though. He laid down the challenge: see who can sit in a lawn chair and launch and catch their Air Hog the most times in a row. Then he proceeded to log two catches. I logged a total of zero. We ran out of daylight before we could do the Air Hog pylon, limbo or combat. Or even better the Air Hog pylon-limbo-combat. Maybe next time. Tom H. Nagel Judicium ProcuratorRecuperatio
[RCSE] Butch Never Would Have Done This
So we were driving home from vacation up at Lake Erie, and the Air Hog fell off the top of the luggage and the dog (actually the auxiliary dog Jamaica, the lobotomized retriever) sat on the Air Hog. Broke off the vertical, bent the heck out of the tail boom, generally warped the entire EPP airframe. I straightened out the plastic tail boom (try that with carbon fiber!) put the tail back together and discarded the superfluous wing struts. The Air Hog looked fine. Only it wouldn't fly. When you tossed it, it banked, rolled and nosed in. Finally under microscopic inspection I detected that the tail boom had some residual bend to the right, almost undetectable to the human (or at least Nagel) eye, but enough to cause a violent rudder roll. So the Air Hog is repaired and the dog is forgiven. Two lessons here: 1. The cheap POS little Air Hog Aero Ace is actually a precision piece of manufacture. Who'd have thunk it? and B. Get yourself a hound dog, not a lobotomized retriever. Tom H. Nagel Judicium ProcuratorRecuperatio
[RCSE] [rcse] My first sailplane
My first sailplane was a Goldberg Sophisticated Lady, which eventually came to be called "The Crunchbird." Maybe you know the joke. The Crunchbird is still probably flyable, just needing a battery and receiver, but I use its two meter wing every once in a while on my Miss 2.1, when I want to thermal the boxy electric monoplane. I still remember Hugh Roger's comment about the Sophisticated Lady: "They ought to make T-tails illegal!" Tom H. Nagel Judicium ProcuratorRecuperatio
[RCSE] A film for Cap'n Jack
Disclaimer: wildly off topic. Mostly. Remember Jack Strother's Sailaire with a rubber pig nose, the Sail Pig? If you like airplanes (especially golden age sea planes) and pigs (like Cap'n Jack's Sail Pig) check out the Japanimation film Porko Rosso. Think of it as the Triplettes of Belleville doing seaplane's with a little bit of Pirates of the Caribbean thrown in. Tom H. Nagel Judicium ProcuratorRecuperatio
[RCSE] Air Hogs at Toledo, and The First Thermal of the Year
Sail-Dudes: Greetings from scenic Central Ohio. Not many sailplanes at Toledo this year, a few at the LSF booth, two at Kennedy Composites, and one at NSP, Sal going almost totally electric these days. Only three sailplanes in the competition when I was there at Friday. We were outnumbered by Air Hogs, guys. They were selling stacks of these little addictive RC nerf balls on the mail floor and in the swap shop. There was even a little micro mini stick and tissue Burt Rutan Pond Racer in the competition, and I swear it had Air Hog guts in it. In local news, MOSS has a new, second, much larger field at the Franklin County Fairgrounds in Hilliard, OH, on the west side of the Columbus outerbelt.Come and visit us. We have a lease with the fairgrounds folks, insurance, porta potties and the whole bit. I hauled the club winch and a bunch of planes out there Sunday, a clear, bright, cool day. No one needed a winch, so I put together the Miss 2.1 electric and flew it around to amuse the soccer kiddies. The Miss 2.1 with its 54" wingspan, boxy fuselage and half a pound of NiMH batteries on board, proceeded to hook up with a series of nice thermals. I have been sloping some, but this was my first flat field flying of the year, and it was fun to hook up to some nice thermals, even if it was with a flying shoe box. I let the soccer kiddies fly the Air Hog. Tom H. Nagel Judicium ProcuratorRecuperatio
[RCSE] Full House Air Hog
Gents: I am just finishing the mods on Air Hog #1 to convert it into a full-house, contest ready thermal riding machine. The wingspan is now up to 24". I added micro linear activators that Bill Hoelcher located on EBay, and dug out pockets for them in the wings using dental tools. The tail surfaces are now fully functional and full flying, using pull-pull systems with spider wire from actual tropical spiders that I captured at Franklin Park Conservatory. The landing gear needed to be beefed up a bit, so I got parts off an old Tonka toy and some commemorative key chain BF Goodrich Radials from the Ford Explorer roll over recall campaign. I am ready to attempt the first flight of this monster, weather permitting, tomorrow morning, which will be, of course ... APRIL FOOL'S DAY. Tom H. Nagel Judicium ProcuratorRecuperatio
[RCSE] Paging Gordy!
Gordy: I need your fax or snail mail address so I can send you the copies of the article. Tom Nagel
Re: [RCSE] Re: NiCad powered winch for DLGs, Anyone built one?
Hey Gordy, just look in the ultimate soaring resource, RCSDigest. I did an article on the Ronnie Winch in the January 2003 issue of RCSD. Photos and everything. Tom H. Nagel - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring@airage.com Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 8:55 PM Subject: [RCSE] Re: "NiCad" powered winch for DLGs, Anyone built one? Hi guys, A pal in Australia is looking for a Nicad powered (small) winch for his DLGs, he can't hump a regular winch out, or stretch a hi start. I seem to remember some creative genius out there coming up with something. Thanks Gordy
[RCSE] Happy Thermal Holiday
Dudes: Today is March 15th, the day the Buzzards Return to Hinckley (Ohio), the mid-west's local thermal celebration. The locals up at Hinckley recount the legend that the buzzards circle on the Hinckley ledges because of cattle being driven over the cliff to die piled up on the shores of Hinckley Lake. For the same reason, buzzards here in Columbus tend to circle over the White Castle restaurants and also the Ohio State House. Tom H. NagelColumbus, OH
[RCSE] Happy Air Hog Day
The sun was out and it was about 45 deg F when I left the house this morning, and my Air Hog saw it's shadow. Six more weeks of GPS. So I stopped at a little park in Grandview on my way to work and flew the Air Hog Aero Ace in the still morning air. In case you have been living in a cave, the Air Hog Aero Ace is that rarest of commodities, a $30 toy radio control airplane that actually flies pretty well. For $30 you get an all EPP airframe, a small lipoly battery and two motors with pusher props that serve as both power and controls; and a small but decent transmitter that also serves as the battery charger. They all are tail heavy, or have too much decalage, so I added nose weight in the form of landing gear, making my Air Hog a tail dragger. OK, Gordy, here is the soaring connection. I have learned that once you launch the Air Hog and get the throttle trimmed out, you can fly the little plane with the steering trim knob. I set up a nice thermal turn, and watched the Air Hog circle itself into the sky. I have watched Mark Gellart do this with his RES/NOS planes at the NATS, and that's where I learned this technique. Stupidly I let it get so high I lost orientation, and the Air Hog drifted over the tall woods on the big hill behind the park. I had a tense few minutes before I managed to bring the plane down low enough that I could steer it and get it back over the field to a happy landing at my feet. Happy Air Hog Day everyone. Tom H. Nagel Judicium ProcuratorRecuperatio
[RCSE] Picalario Pixilation
Guys, I wonder if the common belief that pilots can't listen to an altimeter and fly RC at the same time is related to the pretty well proven fact that driving and talking on a cell phone is an accident waiting to happen. Hang up and fly. Tom H. Nagel Judicium ProcuratorRecuperatio
[RCSE] Sorely Disappointed
Gents: I tuned in to thisshow called The Rose Bowl last night, and would you believe it, there was not a single sailplane in sight. OK, there were a couple of parachutists doing spot landings right at the beginning, but it is easy to make your time when you are hauled up by a C-130. No Joe Wurts, no DP, and no sailplanes. The damn thing went on past midnight (EST) and they were playing FOOTBALL! Who would have thunk it? Tom H. NagelColumbus, OH
[RCSE] Spotting Slopes in Southern Ohio
Gents: I had to drive from Cincinnati to Vinton County last weekend on a beautiful fall day. I traveled through some places I hadn't seen since being bitten by the slope bug. In the stretch between Hillsboro and Bainbridge, down along the Paint Creek valley, I noticed three likely looking slopes. If anyone on list lives nearby, you ought to check these out: 1. A west facing "Ohio Mountain" that has been logged and cleared on its west-facing slope, just north of Paint Creek at the area of the township park on Rt 50 west of Bainbridge. Looks to be 200+ feet high. Topozone says it is either Roundtop hill or Little Roundtop Hill. Right now it looks like Mount Half Baldy. 2. A cow farm just off the south side of Rt 50, near the airport west of Bainbridge. Ohio cow farmers have been sloper friendly in my experience. This nice grassy hillside looks to be maybe 120 feet high and faces West or WNW. 3. Cliffs along south side of Paint Creek (facing N or NW winds) have been cleared of trees. A good 300 high shale cliff face over the river. Look South of Rt 50 along Paint Creek at Jones Levee Road. Finally, if you know of a good Ohio slope and haven't seen me there, please assume I don't know about it and send me a message to add to my list of about 2 dozen decent Ohio slope sites! Tom H. NagelColumbus, OH
Re: [RCSE] feminus danglius volupti clouds
Locally mammiform clouds associated with thunderstorms indicate the risk of tornadoes. Don't mess with Mammi-form Nature. Tom H. Nagel Columbus, OH - Original Message - From: Aradhana Singh Khalsa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Harley Michaelis [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Soaring@Airage.com soaring@airage.com Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 11:21 AM Subject: RE: [RCSE] feminus danglius volupti clouds LOL. Cumulo-Nimbus Mammatus. A regular feature of New Mexico's mid-summer skies. Often a hint from Mother Nature to go inside before the skies open up with rain, wind, and hail. Aradhana Singh Khalsa New Mexico -Original Message- From: Harley Michaelis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 8:42 AM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] feminus danglius volupti clouds Does anyone know the proper name for the cloud formations suggested by the name I've given them in the Subject Line? If this shape is outside of your experience, your education is sorely lacking. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Turnaround that Follows Plane
What I need is a turnaround that follows my car home, for those occasions when I wind the winch line in and then forget to go pick up the turnaround before heading home. Tom H. NagelColumbus, OH
[RCSE] Ohio Slopes--Help Draw Up the Master List!
Gents: I am working up a list of Ohio flying slopes, in the hopes that it will make it onto someone's web site (like Greg Smith's for example). FWIW, Brookville Indiana is an honorary Ohio slope. Please send me nominations for the Ohio Slope Site list, with place name, location, flyable wind directions, access issues, hazards, and any other comments you see fit to include. I'll post or circulate the results in a few weeks. Tom H. NagelColumbus, OH
[RCSE] Thanks, Horizon Hobby Service Dept!
Just a quick note to commend Horizon Hobby's service department for once again quickly and efficiently repairing my much abused JR 783 transmitter without even once asking what kind ofspaz I am for having messed it up in this fashion. Tom H. NagelColumbus, OH
[RCSE] [RCSE[ Estate Planning
Guys: I am a practicing lawyer of the general practice persuasion, and when not making trouble on RCSE I do a significant amount of estate planning for "regular folks." Some basic advice: have a will don't get sucked in by a "trust mill"--most people don't need a trust, and most people that have one manage to screw them up before dying. you should have a living will and health care power of attorney lots of stuff passes by contract or survivorship, meaning your will has little or nothing to say about where this stuff goes. Make sure you know how your "non-probate" stuff is set up, since it is probably most of what you are worth. Examples: life insurance, joint bank accounts, retirement, payable-on death provisions in bank accounts, joint ownership if brokerage accounts, joint and survivorship deeds for real estate. Wills and stuff are controlled by STATE law, so check with your local counsel. There are some oddball state provisions. In Ohio, for example, a surviving spouse can take two cars and a boat and an outboard motor without going through probate court. At least one of the older members of my RC soaring club has a provision in his will that calls on the club to auction off his RC stuff amongst ourselves and put the money into the club treasury. We have already done thisfor one other membersince I have been flying, and I can tell you we treasure those items. Finally, there was a good article about wills, estates and "our stuff" in the AMA magazine in the last couple of years. Check it out. Oh yeah: try not to die. Tom H. NagelColumbus, OH
[RCSE] More evidence that its the NATS.
In case anyone had lingering doubts, the Muncie forecast indicates that indeed it is RC Soaring week at the NATS.http://www.intellicast.com/Local/USLocalStd.asp?loc=kmieseg=LocalWeatherprodgrp=Forecastsproduct=Forecastprodnav=nonepid=none Muncie, Indiana 10 Day Forecast by Intellicast.u rl Description: Binary data
[RCSE] More helpful hints for Muncie and the NatsFw: you probably saw this, but if not
Sun Safety Tips When summer rolls around, everybody wants that perfect tan?but it's important to play it smart. Here are some tips for safe, sensible tanning: Block out harmful UV rays with giant magnifying glass. Always sit at least 100 yards from sun. When applying sunscreen, get children on the beach to help with those hard-to-reach spots. UV rays can damage the corneas; don't forget to rub a good sunscreen into your eyes. Risk of sunburn is especially high while swimming; strap on a thick lead suit before entering water. Instead of using our sun, sunbathe using safer, more distant star like Beta-Sirius. When tanning, always alternate who's on top. Before going outside, check sun's strength by placing test baby in driveway for 1/2 hour. Avoid harmful UV rays; live underground until your descendants evolve into eyeless, albino mole people. Stabbings, while tanning or not, are very dangerous?avoid them. For those raised in a red-sun environment, yellow sun may cause superpowers; use only for good. Tanning is safest when done in short spurts; disrobe for just a couple of seconds every few blocks while walking through town. Allow thick, protective melanoma to grow all over skin. Avoid suntanning on inner planets like Mercury and Venus.
Re: [RCSE] The best soaring underwear?
Actually, for contests, I find thermal underwear works best. As for the LSF V 8 hour slope task, well...depends. Tom H. Nagel Columbus, OH - Original Message - From: Cliff E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; '[RCSE]' soaring@airage.com Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 8:57 AM Subject: RE: [RCSE] The best soaring hat? You're really kidding around.right? Or are you really that helpless? Try the largest Mexican Sombrero you can find the next time you fly. I'm sure you'll find it will fill all of your needs. Do cinch the chin strap down as tight as you can though. Now, on another note, which type of underwear do you prefer whilst sloping? Do you wear a different type whilst thermaling? Different for HLG? Boxers? Briefs? Jock Strap? Or maybe you prefer none at all? What brand? Fruit of the Loom immediately comes to my mind when I think of someone named George who would ask such silly questions. Get a clue, what ever works for you. Most likely you would look very stylish with a Pith Helmut, Khaki Bermuda Shorts, Tan knee high wool stockings with Penny Loafers on and of course a white long sleeved dress shirt with a polka dot Bowtie (your favorite choice of colors would be just fine). This of course would be for the thermal field. For sloping anything will be fine but the Sombrero is a must at the slope. Hope this helps, George. Cliff Lindgren PS Don't forget the extra-large lensed, horn-rimmed dark glasses to finish out your thermal flying ensemble. -Original Message- From: George Voss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 11:12 PM To: '[RCSE]' Subject: [RCSE] The best soaring hat? I know this will start a huge discussion, but what is the best hat for both slope and thermal flying? I currently use a Chi Chi Rodriguez cane hat. I like it for thermal flying but the brim is too soft to hold up in slope lift. That, and it doesn't have a chin string/strap and blows off in strong slope lift. Baseball hats don't protect the ears or neck. Opinions please. George RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] A little solace for the thermal deprived crowd
For those of you who like myself have been suffering thermal withdrawal due to the mandates of family, work or weather, here is a little thermal activity, courtesy of JPL, on the planet Mars. The way things have been going for me lately, the nearest thermal might as well be on Mars. Enjoy!http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/home/index.html Mars Exploration Rover Mission Home.url Description: Binary data
[RCSE] Martian thermals
For those of you who, like me, are looking at a cold, wet and stormy weekend, you can go to the Mars rover website www.marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov and watch movies of Martian dust devils. Tom H. NagelColumbus, OH
Re: [RCSE] trouble with balsa dust
I have been allergic to lots of stuff, including dust, since childhood. Several years ago my doc suggested Claritin, which is now generic and not too pricey. Works for me. Tom H. Nagel Columbus, OH - Original Message - From: Andrew E Mileski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 1:45 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] trouble with balsa dust Richard Hallett wrote: Does an ionizer that strongly puts that pungent corona smell in the air make the dust settle faster? That sounds like ozone (metallic smell). It isn't healthy. -- Andrew E. Mileski RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] High Start Stories
My favorite high start story involves the Infamous Flamingoid, which I once arranged to launch with the receiver turned off. It did a pretty good launch, but popped off about half way up, pulled out and did a series of descending swoops and then landed in the middle of the field with absolutely no damage. Except to my pride. I hate it when my planes fly better without me. A close second favorite was the time I launched my Sophisticated Lady with a full strectch of high start, headed due east down the longest dimension of our little field. Just as I let go a large dust devil popped up mid field, and my line was stretched right through it. The SL just sort of mushed downfield at a high angle of attack, never gaining altitude, never really losing control, got dragged through the dust devil and out the other side, where it came off the chute with maybe 50 feet of altitude. That was the worst launch I can remember where it was not actually my fault. Tom H. NagelColumbus, Ohio
[RCSE] Hanging in a tree
You probably wouldn't feel so hot after hanging in a tree for a few months either. Tom H. NagelColumbus, OH
[RCSE] Saugatuck MI?
Looks like the family is headed up to Saugatuck Michigan in June. Anybody know of flyable slopes up that way? Tom H. NagelColumbus, OH
Re: [RCSE] So, How was Toledo?
Thanks for the report Cap'n Jack. I had a legal seminar to attend and no airplane $$ to spend. Had withdrawal symptoms all weekend. Tom H. NagelColumbus, OH - Original Message - From: Jack Strother To: Tom H. Nagel ; RCSE Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 8:14 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] So, How was Toledo? Tom,Karen and I, got back home about 3 this afternoon.It was nice, I suppose, but I do not think as many people were there " Overall" as in years past.Could be fuel prices, weather, or Toledo Hotel TaxesMy god, 8 percent and then another 6 percent for something else.We hooked up with all our old friends, hey !! Sal was even there.Sal said he may go to the Nats this year..The Shadow receiver was making a BIG splash at the Barry Kennedy booth.Seems to me that electric Helicopters are the big thing, or at least anything electric.There was the usual barrage, of beautiful paint jobs, war birds, boats, subs, a few gliders, and such.The swap shop was its usual disappointment, not only climbing over people to get where you need to get to, it was being climbed over as well.The Auction was basically barren of any real deals or want ables.There were a couple of really nice planes, and a couple of deals to be had but that was it.We did manage to cause a few moments of jubilant laughter, when I offered for auction this really unique Sportster 1000...Most were rolling of their chairs laughing so hard.There were a couple of electric TOC events, but we did not go to them in lieu of the auction, and other fooding activities.TOLEDO was as fun as it has ever been, at least for me and Karen, I did not spend much money, as nothing really tripped my trigger, if you know what I mean.I bought some stuff for the TOW Plane, talked to the vendors, etc,etc.Karens pix will end up "again" on the Morris Hobbies web site, displaying some foamy electric thing...George Joy, definitely looks well, as opposed to last couple of years, we talked about a couple of his new products.Sandy Burke of Solder-it had some new toys, I always have to spend a buck or two there.I would like the thank the Toledo Weak Signals, for another good Mecca, Its always good to hook up with people there.Just so you know !!Jack PS...Gordy was there, swamped by young chick a babes, begging for his autograph, at the Kennedy boothI think that they were all local girls !! I don't understand why they were calling him the shadow though !8-0At 08:40 AM 4/3/2005, Tom H. Nagel wrote: It looked like a good weekend for Toledo: cold, sleet, snow, high winds, miserable weather. For the first time in alsmost a decade I missed goin to the event. So, how was Toledo?Tom H. NagelColumbus, Ohio Jack StrotherGranger, INLSF V #117//home.comcast.net/~strotherbj
[RCSE] So, How was Toledo?
It looked like a good weekend for Toledo: cold, sleet, snow, high winds, miserable weather. For the first time in alsmost a decade I missed goin to the event. So, how was Toledo? Tom H. NagelColumbus, Ohio
Re: [RCSE] Signal strength switch?
I want a Spinal Tap transmitter, with a knob that goes up to ELEVEN! Tom H. Nagel Columbus, OH - Original Message - From: Ed Jett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring List Soaring@airage.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 3:30 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Signal strength switch? I don't think this is what we want to do. It brings the wrong kind of image to others. Red flags may start flying instead of our planes. Lets go to spread spectrum technology. I believe that would get us away from the broadband over power line issue as well. But, I'm certainly no expert on radio transmission or reception. EJ - Original Message - From: Bill Swingle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: John Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Soaring List Soaring@airage.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 1:49 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Signal strength switch? Maybe if we turned it into a life safety issue... Bill Swingle RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] If we could just get our gliders to do this...
There was a fellow doing this stuff at the indoor flys here in Columbus this winter.He had modified a chopper tail prop to work on the front of his 3-D foamie. It was neat to watch. He could back into parking spaces, too. But it was one of the reasons I quit flying indoor this winter. It is hard enough for me, as a slow-flying floater with a GWS A-drive on a 60 Chrysalis, to avoid mid airs with the hot dogs when they were just flying 3-D aerobatics. When they can back up and hit you, it is time to give up and get into model railroading or something. Tom H. Nagel Columbus, OH - Original Message - From: John Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring List Soaring@airage.com Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 12:11 PM Subject: [RCSE] If we could just get our gliders to do this... http://modellvideos.de/videos/KnuffelVerstellprop-die-zwote.wmv JE -- Erickson Architects John R. Erickson, AIA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Gordy in Melbourne--Hot of the Presses
This just in from Google News: Earthtimes.org- 3 hours agoThe chaos at Melbourne Airport, Australia was just short of pandemonium on Monday morning. About 700 passengers were evacuated from the building and many flights were cancelled after a mystery leak spread panic in the concourse. Tom H. NagelColumbus, OH
Re: [RCSE] Lawyers VS the Kit bidness
Yes, I too offer my most sincere apologies for aggravating this lawyer bashing thread. After all, we have high elected officials to do that for us. I am working on a plane, too---a sorta scale PSS model of SpaceShipOne: P1. Does it sound like I'm pissed? Only if it doesn't fly. Tom H. Nagel Columbus, OH - Original Message - From: Ed Berris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 2:13 PM Subject: [RCSE] Lawyers VS the Kit bidness Well, guys, since I started this thread I'd like to suggest we retire it now. I never anticipated so much reaction. Naturally, I did expect to hear from Gordy but then Gordy can always be expected to let me have it and anyone else whose name he sees just after having one of his PMS spells. Gordy, take eleven Midol tablets and call me in the morning. How about letting this thread die a natural death? Ed RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Lawyers are killing the kit business
Actually, Ed, and fellow flyers, it is not the evil lawyers doing this. It is the evil bean counters and the corporate dilberts who seek to maximize profit at any expense. A certain linguistically challenged President is also currently attacking lawyers accusing them (us) of junk lawsuits and causing a malpractice insurance crisis. Wrong again. Same real bad guys, the bean counters and the corporate bandits. Tom H. Nagel Columbus, OH - Original Message - From: Ed Berris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com; Jack Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 3:47 PM Subject: [RCSE] Lawyers are killing the kit business I found this article on www.instapundit.com. It tells what lawyers are doing that can hurt small model makers. Don Stackhouse already found out first hand what the impact of these shakedown lawsuits) are all about but I thought you all might want to read this. Here it is: Lawyers Lay Waste to Military Models Industry by James Dunnigan February 3, 2005 Discussion Board on this DLS topic For over half a century, kits have been sold that enable military history buffs to assemble scale models of military ships, aircraft and vehicles. But that era is coming to an end, as the manufacturers of the original equipment, especially aircraft, are demanding high royalties (up to $40 per kit) from the kit makers. Since most of these kits sell in small quantities (10-20,000) and are priced at $15-30 (for plastic kits, wooden ones are about twice as much), tacking on the royalty just prices the kit out of the market. Popular land vehicles, which would sell a lot of kits, are missing as well. The new U.S. Army Stryker armored vehicles are not available because of royalty requirements. Even World War II aircraft kits are being hit with royalty demands. These royalty demands grew out of the idea that corporations should maximize intellectual property income. Models of a companys products are considered the intellectual property of the owner of a vehicle design. Some intellectual property lawyers have pointed out that many of these demands are on weak legal ground, but the kit manufacturers are often small companies that cannot afford years of litigation to settle this contention. In the past, the model kits were considered free advertising, and good public relations, by the defense firms. The kit manufacturers comprise a small industry, and the aircraft manufacturers will probably not even notice if they put many of the model vendors out of business. Some model companies will survive by only selling models of older (like World War I), or otherwise no royalty items (Nazi German aircraft) and ships. But the aircraft were always the bulk of sales, and their loss will cripple many of the kit makers. Some of the vehicle manufacturers have noted the problem, and have lowered their demands to a more reasonable level (a few percent of the wholesale price of the kits). I guess model kit makers will have to rename their models to avoid these bottom feeding lawyers. Ed RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Sirius Chargers
I endorse everything Chuck Anderson says about what George Joy says. (Boy, this could get old real fast.) Tom H. NagelColumbus, OH
[RCSE] The End of the X-Plane File
Last night my wife and I went back to Bed, Bath and Beyond and returned the X-Plane for credit on her charge card. The moral of the story is do not let your wife buy you RC airplanes at a store that specializes in fancy home furnishings. And conversely, don't buy your wife a Valentine's Day present at the hobby shop. For the morbidly curious, I present here a verbatim transcript of some of the more sparkling passages from the X-Plane instruction manual. All spelling and grammer errors are in the original, for once.Key Features: Made of high impact duration material. Unique wing to get best stability and anti-wind in flight. Proportional speed, ascending and descending control. (Incidentally, this is not true) Intelligent lower battery alarm for plane and transmitter.Safety Precautions: Parents, this toy is recommended for children. Adult assemble is required. Avoid hitting people, pets or home furnishings.Cautions: Non-rechargeable batteries are not to be recharged. Do not submerge the toy into water that can damage the electronic assemblies. ( Apparently OK to submerge in water that won't damage it.)Note:. Under the environment with electrostatic discharge, the sample may malfunction and require user to reset the sample.Special Note to Adults: This toy is not intended for children under 3 years old. The charger is not a toy.(This from the instructions to install the bomb dropping mechanism)1. Set the wafer connector in its housing of the body.2. Address the wire, then put the releasing mechanism inside.(This from the instructions for the on-board digital camera) Caution: Adult assemble and disassemble are required.Some states may have restrictions on the aerial pictures taken, please contact your retailer for details. Also only take photos of own properties or public areas are recommended to avoid invading privacy.(From the instructions for flying preparation)After charging, plug out of the AC/DC adaptor and Plug of the R/C X-Plane. The specifications of the utilized unit must be adsolutely observed.Playground and Weather selection:a. In a wide open space.b. There is no water pool, high building, trees and high power wire in about 200m x 200m.c. It's better in a sunny day, and in calm wind or slight breeze.d. In order to have runway take off, please make sure the land is smooth and flat.Warm up before flying:a. Check if nose wheel, landing wheel and propeller are properly assembled, and all the fasteners are in good condition, especially the propeller should be in place for safety flight.b. Visual check the wing and body, shall be no deformed.c. Visual check the R/C X-Plane for its antenna, shall not wrap on the propeller, horizontal stabilizer or vertical stabilizer.(From the Flying Instructions)a. Set your R/C X-Plane in playground with a lane no less than 30 meter.b. Face its nose to the wind. Press Throttle Control (Decrease) button on transmitter 3 times and hold, to drive the propeller in maximum power.c. When your R/C X-Plane goes about 6 meters, stroke down the Elevator Control on transmitter to take off.d. When your R/C X-Plane goes about 15 meters high, you can release the accelerating button, let your R/C X-Plane fly in moderate power and goes up.e. You can fly your R/C X-Plane in different way by the combination of Elevator and Rudder Control.f. If the battery in your R/C X-Plane is nearly exhausted, the Speed Indicator on transmitter will blink. In this case, you can decrease your R/C X-Plane to lower power, stroke, stroke..Elevator Control up to let it lower down. When it lowers to about 15 meters, turn its nose toward the wind direction and press "Throttle Control Decrease to stop motor and glide down.Tom H. NagelColumbus, OH
[RCSE] [RCSE]Flying in Scenic Central Ohio on New Year's Day
Skye Malcolm and I met at the Franklin County Fairgrounds for an impromptu NYD fly-in. Skye was just back from Arizona and was wearing shorts and tennis shoes, so we didn't last too long. Sky had found an upgraded ZingWing out west, one of those foamy flying wings that folds in half and launches with a big rubber band. This one was higher aspect ratio and bigger span and will undoubtedly disappear into the first thermal of the new year. Today we just had clouds and drizzle. We flew the Miss 2.1 a little, and that was very nice. We even did a runway takeoff and landing. I tried to fly the Silverlit Friggin Industries X-Plane. That little monster is going back for a refund tomorrow, so help me Dave Thornburg. Gordy, you do NOT want one of these for your kid. It is not safe nor reliable. Mine has intermittent power glitches that I can't fix because none of the guts are user accessible. The propellor propels itself off the shaft and goes flying away when you rev up the motor, and the range check today failed at about ten feet. I could go on and on but instead I am just going back to the customer service desk.
[RCSE] Update on the Silverlit X-Plane
Merry Christmas to everyone at RCSE, lurker and turbo typer alike, pundit and pun-pusher and dancer and prancer. I spent the interlude between opening the stockings and deep frying the turkey by attempting to assemble and run the Silverlit Mfg Co X-Plane. The instructionsand "documentation" to the thing are buried deep in the box, so you have to irretrievably open the packaging to see what you are getting. The instructions are like the web page, written in some version of English as spoken by aliens from a planet where all they get is Jackie Chan movies played sideways. The instructions skip some important steps, like how to install the propellor and how the elevator trim should be set. Elevator trim isn't even mentioned. The plane came with about 45 degrees of elevator up trim set in it, and no instructions on what is should really be, or how to set it. A beginner would not do well with these kinds of non-instructions. The bad news is that nothing is proportional. The rudder clicks full left or full right or center and that's it. The elevator cycles to full up or full down or neutral.Nothing on the box or the website tips you off that the controls are not proportional. The motor has three speeds (plus off) and operates by push buttons. Each push of the button under your left index finger notches up the prop speed. Each push of the right button notches the speed down one step. Elevator only on the right stick, rudder only on the left stick. And of course, there are no servos, just actuators. There us a lot of slop in the rudder and elevator linkages. The elevator looks to be appropriately sized. The rudder is tiny and looks like it would be totally ineffective when the motor is off. If I keep this plane I will likely make a bigger foam rudder for it. On the other hand, the wing and fuse mate nicely and lock together in some very clever ways. They plane is held together by posts and pins, sort of like an Amish barn. (Might fly that way, too.) The motor feel plenty powerful. Fit and finish of everything was pretty good. No missing parts. The cardboard multi-folded packaging was a miracle of corrugated origami. The transmitter, though small and toy-like is actually pretty ergonomic. The plane has a loose wire in it somewhere. I had to whack it upside the fuselage a few times to get it to listen to the transmitter. There is no way to get inside where the radio and actuators live without cutting into sealed areas. If I can't figure out how to fix that problem, the whole kit may go back as defective. I may taxi it tomorrow or the next day, and try flying it within the week. Right now we have deep snow, capped by lots of ice and very cold temperatures. Happy Holler Days Tom
[RCSE] Texas weather
I spent a year in Houston one summer.
Re: [RCSE] Handicapping for contests
In the argument over the choice between handicapping the plane and handicapping the pilot, all I can say is that I come into the game already handicapped so there is no point in picking on my plane. Tom H. Nagel Columbus, OH RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Early Christmas Present---Help!
Dudes: My mother-in-law is going to be out of town for the holidays, so she stopped by tonight to give the family Christmas gifts. She gave me this electric model plane that I have not heard of before, and I hang out in a lot of hobby shops. It is sort of toy-like but maybe interesting. Made by Silverlit Industries. Called an X-Plane. All EPP, with a tractor prop mounted on the vertical stab. (!?) A 27 mhz TX, with 3 channels, sort of, elevator on the left stick, rudder on the right stick, throttle on a button somewhere, and a digital camera that tucks into a sort of bomb bay. OK, maybe its 4 channels, if you count the digital camera/bomb bay thingy. They got a website, Silverlit-flyingclub.com but it is written by somebody who learned English by reading the instructions to Korean built microwave ovens. And by this I mean no disrespect to either Koreans or microwave ovens. Anyway, do I take this thing out of the box and mess with it, or try to return it? Anybody tried to fly one of these things? HELP
[RCSE] 'Tis The Season to Recycle
Hey guys: Just a reminder, while you are out doing last minute shopping at Radio Shack and such places, take your old dead nicads back to the store and see that they get properly recycled. Nicads are environmentally nasty in landfills. I realize that a lot of you don't use nicads any longer. You can recycle your Nickle Metal Hydrides by sending them to me. I prefer an Airtronics or JR connector. Tom H. NagelColumbus, OH
Fw: [RCSE] product discontinuance
This message is forwarded from Don Stackhouse and Joe Hahn at DJ Aerotech Tom H. Nagel Columbus, OH - Original Message - From: Don Stackhouse @ DJ Aerotech [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 11:23 AM Subject: product discontinuance Paul, Tom, I included a copy f the message below to RCSE, as well as some of the other lists, since I felt that it was something that many of the subscribers to RCSE would be interested in. However, I quit RCSE about a year ago (the vicious attacks, lies and character assassination as a means of suppressing alternate viewpoints got to be more than I felt like putting up with), and if I remember correctly, I think RCSE has some sort of filter to keep out messages posted by non-subscribers. Did this message ever get posted on RCSE? If not, any chance one of you could forward it to the list for me? Or, do either of you have Mike Lachowski's e-mail address? Thanks, Don As some of you on these lists may recall, three years ago we were approached by EMI, a company hired by Lockheed-Martin to administer their trademark licensing program for them, regarding our Roadkill Series P-38 kit. It is Lockheed-Martin's policy that ANYONE (no exceptions) must be properly licensed by them to legally make models of any of their aircraft, including the ancestor companies such as (but not limited to) Lockheed, Martin, General Dynamics, Convair, or Consolidated. We had the choice of either discontinuing the P-38 kit, or obtaining a license. During the negotiations, we were told of various benefits to us that being license holders would include. We decided to try it their way, and invest in a 3-year license. The cost was a token amount for them, although it was not a token amount for a tiny company like ours. Still, if the benefits outlined to us were real, it would be a worthwhile investment. To make a long and painful story short, the benefits did not materialize to any significant extent. In addition, they are now insisting on a much bigger cost (from our point of view, but not in their eyes) for renewal of the agreement. Given that the real benefits we experienced fell well short of what we'd been led to expect, and did not even justify our original investment, we simply cannot renew at anything even close to the proposed terms. There are plenty of other kit subjects from companies that do not subject us to this sort of treatment. We do have a few remaining of the two kits that are subject to this license. We are discontinuing production and sales of our Roadkill Series Lockheed P-38 and Model 10 Electra, effective either 12-31-04 or when the existing inventory of these kits runs out, whichever comes first. If you want one, better get it quick, once they're gone, there will not be any more. As far as the other Lockheed-Martin related kits we had in development, some Roadkill Series, some bigger, and some giant scale, those will never see the outside of my computer. We're sorry to have to take this position, but they have really left us with no real choice. As far as any pressure on EMI or Lockheed-Martin from any of you reading this, in reaction to this turn of events (such as what some list members did three years ago), please refrain from doing so. We do appreciate your concern. However, we were told by the good folks at EMI three years ago that they could make it difficult for us if that occurred any more (even though we had nothing to do with the actions of others back when it happened, having in no way asked anyone to do any such thing), and I can only assume that threat still stands. At this point, Joe and I are relieved to be rid of this whole unpleasant affair. Don Stackhouse @ DJ Aerotech [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.djaerotech.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] First Plane
About ten years ago my wife knoew I was interested in RC planes, but had never tried it. So she got me a .40 size RC trainer for Christmas, some sort of Goldberg kit. No engine, no radio, no monokote--just a box of balsa. I never really wanted to fly gas power, so I took the kit back to the hobby shop and swapped it for the only glider they had in stock, a Goldberg Sophisticated Lady, and used the money left over toward some Monokote. The SL was what I learned to build and fly with. That may explain some things about my building and flying. The plane acquired its own name, too: The Crunchbird. (Crunchbird, my ass! ---for those of you who remember that joke.) After I met Chuck Anderson at the NATS early on, I added winglets. After I met a winch, I started added shear webs to the wing structure. I still have it, and have been using the 2M wings, complete with winglets, on my Miss 2 fuselage for long, gawky thermal flights.
[RCSE] Most Fun Airplane/Flight
Tough question. Overall, I think I have had the most fun with the Infamous Flamingoid, the 2 meter Gnome in yard flamingo drag. It has had three or so memorable half hour flights, and one startling appearance at Mt. Knobly for the Cumberland Slope Fun Fly. It flies better than it has any right to, and it has grossed out a whole generation of sailplane pilots I took it to a static display RC show once, and was lurking in the background when some guy (probably a power guy) said to his buddy: "You gotta be pretty secure in your manhood to fly something like that." I probably have more time on my Zagi THL than any other plane. However, I recently canabalized it for the electronics. My Boomerang is my new favorite foamy sloper.
[RCSE] Thanksgiving and Religious Holidays.
Happy thanksgiving everyone. Tonight we soar with the turkeys! Let's all be thankful for being allowed to perpetrate our aerial sport/hobby; let's give thanks to the folks who provide us with the great modern, inexpensive electronics to the guy who invented EPP foam to the (recently deceased) guy who invented NIMH batteries to George Joy who keeps us charged up to Harley who keeps inventing and perfecting to Chuck Anderson for perspective to Gordy for comic relief to Dave Garwood for getting it all down in writing and on film to Daryl and Joe for keeping us inspired the farmer at the AMA site for planting beans this last year instead of corn Hey let's all give thanks to US; we keep ourselves pretty well entertained all year. Next week is the beginning of the holy week known locally as Bambidon, or in some of the more urban areas as Deer Gun Season. I will be off in a tree somewhere, and for once, not trying to retrieve a plane. If you write, it may take me a while to get around to responding. Tom H. NagelColumbus, OH
[RCSE] Gordy, Beware!
Just when you thought it was safe to go back to the flying field..a little something for Halloween. In his excellent 1999 novel Starfish, science fiction writer Peter Watts wrote about "cultured brains on a slab" - a "smart gel - that could pilot a plane as well as a person. Now, University of Florida biomedical engineer Dr. Thomas DeMarse has created a "brain in a dish" that can interact with a computer flight simulation. The "brain" is a small puddle of 25,000 living neurons taken from a rat's brain and cultured in a glass dish. "It's essentially a dish with 60 electrodes arranged in a grid at the bottom," DeMarse said. "Over that we put the living cortical neurons from rats, which rapidly begin to reconnect themselves, forming a living neural network a brain." The multi-electrode grill is connected to a personal computer running a flight simulation program. The individual neurons are distributed randomly at the beginning of the experiment, and are not connected. The aircraft simulation of an F-22 fighter jet feeds data into the grid about flight conditions; whether the plane is flying straight and level or not. The neurons begin to organize themselves, forming connections to each other. The neurons analyze the data and respond by sending signals to the plane's controls. At first, the simulated plane drifts randomly. But the neural network slowly learns; currently, the brain can control the pitch and roll of the simulated craft in most weather conditions, including storms and hurricane-force winds. Tom H. NagelColumbus, OH
[RCSE] [RCSE]Political Glitching-An Apology
I would like to apologize for setting off an email firestorm with my speculation that the Secret Service and/or Air Force One were jamming our RC radio transmissions. As a test, I went out back and tried flying the Tiger Moth while John Kerry was in the area yesterday. No glitches. In fact, the Tiger Moth took off autonomously, flew a short aerobatic sequence including some axial rolls and an outside loop, and did a three point landing at my feet. It was however covered with goose down, which I do not understand. Later, Tom H. NagelColumbus, OH
[RCSE] Jammin' with the V. Pres
Dick Cheney flew into the Columbus area this morning. As soon as I heard about it, I repeated my GWS Tiger Moth test out behind the garage. Once again I lost throttle control at ten paces with the antenna collapsed and less than 50 paces with full antenna extension. I'll try it again in the morning, just to make sure, but this is a plane I can normally fly out of sight and have often flown in the neighborhood, including taxiing it in a 4th of July parade that goes right past the house. It is clear to me that there is a Republican conspiracy against Channel 47. At least on the Airtronics/JR shift. Tom H. NagelColumbus, OH
[RCSE] PSSSS1
I am working on a PSS model of SpaceShipOne, thus P1, an acronym than sounds like Gordy pissing on a flat rock. Gotta work on that. Parts so far: some EPP beds left over from a Casavos boomerang, a clear 3-liter pop bottle, a clear plastic peanut butter jar some 2" balsa TE stock, and on board electronics ripped out of the Stealth Sloper. What this model lacks in finesse it will make up for in tacky. Burt Rutan eat your heart out.
Re: [RCSE] Re: Flying Early Thursday
I told you so. Still not sure about the sunspots, though. Tom H. Nagel Columbus, OH - Original Message - From: Jerry Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Terry Mickle [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jerry Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Dean Gradwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Scott Gradwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Terry Mickle [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mike Reed (Home) [EMAIL PROTECTED]; DJ Buell [EMAIL PROTECTED]; John Page [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Bob Claar [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mike Gee [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Stewart Tittle [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Paul Gradwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Paul Brigaerts [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Ron McElliott [EMAIL PROTECTED]; James Amador [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Roger Hebner [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Michael Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 11:09 PM Subject: [RCSE] Re: Flying Early Thursday Hi all, If you will remember last week I sent out a notice about flying here in the valley, well today an incident happened, Randy's friend Bruce was ask very nicely to stop flying his electric powered wing type glider, by none other the US Secret Service. So they do have the ability to seek us out. Must have been by GPS. President Bush spoke here in Medford/Central Point, OR tonight, landed about 3:25 PM this afternoon. I'm no sure what time Bruce was flying, but he was ask to land and not fly the rest of the day. At least he was not shot down by the unknown. Jerry Miller, SOSS At 07:49 PM 10/11/2004, Terry Mickle wrote: Flying sailplanes earlier before 7:00 sounds like a good idea. Why don't I bring my winch and retriever though. Don't know any reason not to use retriever. We could use it after dark as well with some nite-lights but I would prefer not to - the kids wouldn't have anything to do and it would be a bit too dangerous with everyone running around. Jerry: are you bringing the hi-start? What time should I show up with winch/retriever? 5:30 or so? It takes about 20 minutes to unload and setup but I don't know what time the regulars at the field leave. Terry Dean Gradwell wrote: Dean to DJ, Let me bring the BBQ this time as I have a very portable unit. Also is it possible to fly gliders before 7:00? If so I'll bring a winch. Dean RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Bird attacks vs. airplane color
The only plane I have had attacked in the air was the Infamous Flamingoid, which is pink. I was doing a half hour thermal flight, and a couple of buzzards, of all things, took offense at the presence of a Flamingoid in their air and made repeated swoops at it. I did loops and stalls, and they eventually left. I got the half hour. And for what it's worth, the same pink Flamingoid has been attacked several times on the ground by RC sailplane pilots. Go figure. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Mystery Plane found at MOSS site
John Derstine writes: from: John Derstine To: 'Tom H Nagel' ; 'RCSE' Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 5:39 PM Subject: RE: [RCSE] Mystery Plane found at MOSS site Was W in the area again? Endless Mountain Models http://www.scalesoaring.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, John, as a matter of fact he was. Dubya flies in here every few days to talk to a hand-picked audience, and each time he does it, traffic gets all FUBAR, because for security reasons, they do not give the schedule or route out ahead of time. I guess that would be for Dubya's security, not anyone else's convenience.
[RCSE] Mystery Plane found at MOSS site
Gents: One of the home owners who lives near the MOSS site in Columbus/Westerville OH stopped by the field and dropped off a sort of Zagoid plane that he'd found out back of his house a couple of months ago. No AMA number, name or address that I can find. I have tentatively ID'd it as a NE Sailplanes XE2, with a brushless AVEOX motor and an 8 cell nicad battery pack. If it is yours, email me and identify the receiver and channel. Plane looks to be in pretty fair shape, though it may have been outside for a few days. Tom H. NagelColumbus, OH
Re: [RCSE] R and R, not RnR
Wow, I want to get one of those Pterosaurs to fly at Cumberland! Or do combat against Gordy! (Pterosoar vs Gordysoar)! Sounds like a bad Japanese sci fi movie. Tom H. Nagel Columbus, OH - Original Message - From: Douglas, Brent [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RCSE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 4:01 PM Subject: [RCSE] R and R, not RnR I thought I was on the RnR (Millenium / SBX) site, but I stumbled into a very cool site last nite - http://www.randrmodelaircraft.com/ I was looking for a sloper, but I ended up looking at very well done RC dinosaurs - pteradons, etc. Size from 36 - 120 inches, priced across the board. I was just amazed at the quality / realism, if nothing else the site's worth a look just to see something very different. Do you get bonus LSF points for sloping something 100 million years old (not counting a certain orange and black Sailaire that shows up at the DARTS field from time to time)? Brent RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] New PSS model needed--Space Ship One
OK guys, Burt Rutan'sSpace Ship One crew just won the Ansari X-Prize. The ship went to about 360,000 feet, re-entered and landed safely. Dave Garwood, we need a foamy PSS model for this fall's sloping. Just stretch the wingspan a little. Let me know when it's ready. Tom H. NagelColumbus, OH
Re: [RCSE] September/October thread -- interference
I agree completely with Jack's approach to park flyers. We do the same at MOSS and have recruited several new members this way. We do Park Flyer Outreach at the local hobby store by leaving flyers near the pile of GWS boxes. - Original Message - From: Jack Harper To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] September/October thread -- interference I frequently run into park flyers at the high school where I sometimes fly my DLG. They are mostly family types where Dad is trying to get the plane into the air by throwing it straight up. They are usually more than happy to get some help after seeing me throw DLG a few times. I have helped several of them get their planes into the air, and always take the time to explain about interference. They usually have no clue about that. So far, this has produced several new glider pilots and some new club members. In fact, one of them who was flying a park flyera couple ofyears ago will be Predident of our club next year. I look at it as an opportunity torecruitnew flyers and grow the sport. Jack Harper Houston Hawks - Original Message - From: Ron Weaver To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 9/28/04 8:21:39 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] September/October thread -- interference I had arecent encounter with a park flier myself. I helped him solo his POS, and his dad even took a turn at the sticks. They were both grateful to get the help, and I was also able to educate them about frequency control (they didn't have a clue). I hope to fly with them again sometime. These people are interested in participating in our hobby - I say let's bring them into the fold. As an added bonus - they expressed an interest in gliders andI was able to refer them to DAW and some of the other fine vendors that provide us with our toys. Ron Weaver Buffalo Grove, IL Do you Yahoo!?vote.yahoo.com - Register online to vote today!
[RCSE] YEEEEE---Haw!
I don't know if any of the rest of you were watching live webcast coverage this morning, but Space Ship One lifted off from Mojave Spaceport, cut loose from White Knight and lit the candle, in search of the X-Prize trophy. Shortly after the engine fired, SS-1 pulled up vertical and then began a series of vertical axial rolls as it zoomed up to the boundary of space. Y-Haw! You could have sworn Troy Lawicki or Jack Strother was at the controls. Or me. Because the vertical axial rolls were not planned. Maybe not intentional, either. Anyway, it was exciting, and all's well that ends in one piece. Tom H. NagelColumbus, OH
[RCSE] [RCSE]Topic for the month of October
Topic for the month of October: Which vendor makes the best downwind turn while trying to nail the UPS guy with a landing skeg? And could Gordy do it better? Tom H. NagelColumbus, OH
[RCSE] It's the Weekend-Do You Know Where Dubya Is?
Guys: The weekend is upon us. George W. and John Kerry and Ralph Nader are all running loose out there somewhere. Beware of presidentially induced radio glitches. If you are flying near a presidential campaign rally and experience difficulty (other than stomach upset) please update me on your experience. By near I mean "same county" or within about 15 miles. I am curious to know if there really is a relationship between campaign events and RC radio shoot-downs. I am curious to know if this applies to all the major candidates for President and VP, or just the incumbents. Captain Jack thinks I am hallucinating. On the other hand, just because you are paranoid doesn't mean they aren't really out to get you. Have fun and be safe. Tom H. NagelColumbus, OH
[RCSE] SSO-PSS
OK, so who is going to do a PSS sloper of SpaceShipOne? Bill and Bunny were looking for a project. Here you go--even sort of a flying wing. Tom H. NagelColumbus, OH
[RCSE] Metric System--the REAL last word
If God had meant us to use the metric system, Jesus would have had ten disciples. Tom H. Nagel Columbus, OH RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Estimating the Airspeed Velocity of an Unladen Swallow
The solution to an age old aviation question, what is the airspeed velocity of an unladen sparrow? http://www.style.org/unladenswallow/ (Don Stackhouse, eat your heart out.) File attachment: style.org Estimating the Airspeed Velocity of an Unladen Swallow.url The file attached to this email was removed because the file name is not allowed.
[RCSE] Lord of the Wings
The family shanghaied me over the holidays and hauled me off to see the last of the Tolkien trilogy. Actually, the movie is pretty enjoyable, if you don't mind being catheterized ahead of time. Some space missions have not lasted as long as this epic. While we were waiting in the lobby for the auditorium to be hosed down following the previous showing, I noticed one of those free-standing displays for an upcoming Disney film. It seemed to be made out of some sort of smooth, thin, hard Styrofoam sheet. Just the thing for building a sloper or indoor electric. This wasn't the paper covered core-board, or the thin fragile Depron; nor was it the 1/4 inch fan fold Styrofoam sheet. Next time you are at the multiplex, take a look at this stuff. Let's see if we can figure out what it is and where we can get some to mess with. Anybody got Hollywood connections? Tom H. Nagel Columbus, OH RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] [RCSE]
My first plane was a Goldberg Sophisticated Lady (later to become known as The Crunchbird.) My wife had gotten me a kit to build an RC power plane for Christmas. I took it back to the hobby shop and swapped it for the only glider they had on the shelves, the Sophisticated Lady. I learned to build, repair, and slope with the SL. Lots and Lots of repair. I added shear webs when it became clear that the wing was too weak for even a decent high start. I added winglets as an experiment, and never took them off. The Crunchbird is still in the hangar and needs only a battery and radio to go up again. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Contest Fun
A few years ago our club ran an impromptu contest, the point of which was to see who could get to the highest altitude within a set time. One of the fellows had an altimeter watch, and we would move it from plane to plane. Each contestant had a short time---I think it was 4 minutes, to get as high as possible, and then was required to land immediately. The winner had something like 2700 feet of gain. It was lots of fun. We called it the Viagra Cup. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Sloping the Chrysl-Stick and Fred the $4 Sloper
I drove over to Newark OH to fly our little slope overlooking the Licking River. It was a beautiful fall day with warm southwest winds, some thermals popping off the slope, fall color, and for some reason no one else showed up. When I go sloping I tend to throw every plane I can lay hands on into the van. You never know. So I flew the Zagi THL and the Stealth Sloper and even the Chrysl-Stick, which you may be tired of hearing about by now. The Chrysl-stick is a DJ Aerotech 60 HLG with left over Pico Stick landing gear and a GWS A-drive motor spinning an 8 prop. It will ROG, strangley enough, and I had previously flown it at our flat field, thermaling with the prop stopped, and also flown it as a park flyer off school parking lots. A few weeks ago a I had flown it indoors at the golf dome. And today I sloped it. The great light lift had the Chrysl-stick specked out several times, and I only used the motor to power out into the lift band on launch. Not many planes fly indoors, park, thermal and slope! I also flew Fred the Four Dollar Sloper. This is an old Freedom 72 sloper that Paul Wiese finally gave me after failing to sell it at about three successive swap shops. It looks to have been designed to fly aileron/elevator and I think Paul added a rudder and rudder servo. It has 4 giant D-cell nicads stuffed in up front to balance it, and the aileron linkages are hanging out there exposed on top of the wing in front of Gordy and everybody. This is a heavy old airplane, with a fuselage like a baseball bat and a big fat balsa over foam core bagged wing. I added $4 worth of ancient Airtronics servos from a swap meet, and glued and trimmed and monokoted. It looked pretty much like a jet fighter, and a little like a sailplane. When I programmed it onto my JR XP783, the TX only gave me four letters to name the model, so Freedom became Fred, and thus it became Fred the $4 Sloper. I ran it up on a high start a few months ago, and it had horrendous adverse yaw. Steve Krupp helped me program that out of existence. Today was my first chance to try flying it on the slope. I tossed it off the slope, added a little up trim, and away it went. I flew it Aileron/Elevator for a while, and landed out when the wind died. On the second flight I remembered that I had a rudder, and that really made the plane come alive.This is a nice flying, very steady, moderately fast airplane, with enough weight to punch through the Buena Vista Street rotor and land smoothly on the grass. Since Paul made it available free, I am going to offer it to any of our club members who want to try stepping up to a little heavier sloper. Heck, I've only got $4 in it! RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] We should start a new thread to bash
- Original Message - From: Steve Gibson To: rc Soaring Exchange Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 3:13 PM Subject: [RCSE] We should start a new thread to bash Anybody ever tied a parachute to a small animal then dropped it out of an R/C plane? If so, were the results successful ? SJG Many moons ago when I was an undergrad at Ohio State and living in the Stadium Scholarship Dorm, one of the guys had a pet python, and kept hamsters to feed it. We rigged up a parachute and a single serving cereal box to hold the rodent, and prepared to launch the thing off C-Deck, some 93 feet above the west side parking lot. Now, the prevailing fall winds come from the west, and this was long before I knew anything about sailplanes or slope lift. We got some old clunky walkie talkies to coordinate the launch. We were thinking NASA and moon launches. Those of us on C-Deck were Rodent Launch and the guys in the parking lot were Rodent Control. We dumped the hampster and parachute over the side of C-Deck, and slope lift took over. The chute went up, not down, and began to drift north, across Woody Hayes Drive, gaining altitude. Rodent Control scurried off in pursuit. The chute kept gaining altitude, must have caught a thermal, and was last seen heading out over St. John's Arena. We never did find the chute or the hamsternaut. OK, it is not a Chuck Anderson story, but it's all I got.
[RCSE] Old RCSE Archives?
Can someone point me at older RCSE archived messages? (Pre 2000 stuff) Thanks guys RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Great Leaping YoYo Balls!
During a recent RCSE discussion of bungee launching, I was reminded of this thing that kids have been playing with this summer. I looks sort of like a dragon testicle, if there were such a things as dragons and they had testicles. It is a spiky soft rubber ball with a motion sensitive light inside it, and it has a 7 elastic strap molded as part of it, ending in a finger ring. Kids sort of zap the flashing ball back and forth like a yoyo. The amazing thing is the strap, about 1/4 in diameter and only 7 long, it stretches out to a good 60, or over 8 times it's original length. ( I seem to recall surgical rubber tubing stretching 3 or 4 times its length.) The one at our house has held up all summer with no splitting, cracking, etc. What is this thing made out of, and should we be looking at it for highstarts? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Insurance Claim
Gentlemen, and Gordy: A while ago Dick Renskers donated a collection of his RCSDigest magazines to our club -- a complete set from the first issue on. Disaster struck this spring. We had a plumbing leak at home which wiped out the kitchen, and some of my modeling stuff in the basement, including the big carton of RCSDigests.Anybody have an opinion on value for the homeowner's insurance claim? Thanks! RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Skegs Survey
I personally am a skegnostic, and don't much care if people in contests use skegs or not, because I am not going to be flying against them anyway. I use one on the Flamingoid to keep the droopy plastic yard flamingo neck from breaking. What I want to know in this survey is: HOW MANY DIFFERENT SPELLINGS ARE THERE FOR SKEG? So far I see skeg and skegg and once in a while skag. One of our friends from Montreal spells it squegge as I recall. Add your own versions. A thread is a terrible thing to waste. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] [RCSD] The Park Flyer Menace
I have to agree with Don Stackhouse--the answer is not to ban park flyers, but to bring those folks into our clubs. We used the safety and interference argument here in Columbus to get the City to allow us to fly electrics at our sailplane field. (We had previously been banned from flying anything other than pure gliders at the city-owned site.) We announced the new permission to fly electrics every way we could--to other clubs, at fliers posted at all the hobby shops, etc. The result has been a lot of new members in the club, and a lot of new and interesting planes being flown at the MOSS field. So far, it has not interfered with sailplane operations (although I am still looking for that second half hour flight for LSF III.) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Stylus problem part 2
Dear Ed and RCSE gurus: Could the weak or dying lithium battery syndrome cause centering problems on other radios too? Once in a while my JR 783 does odd things about centering control surfaces. - Original Message - From: Ed Franz To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 6:29 PM Subject: [RCSE] Stylus problem part 2 A while back I posted about my Stylus having problems centering. Well, I talked to Airtronics and they knew about the problem. It seems when the lithium battery in the transmitter starts to go bad the lack of centering is one of the signs. I sent in my radio and today was the first time I have used it sense I got it back. What a difference! I had no centering problems at all the whole day. So if your Stylus starts to act funny it is probably time to send it back for the replacement of the lithium battery in the transmitter. I put a small piece of tape with the date I had the battery changed under the module to remind me when I had it done. Airtronics says every three years or so. Ed Franz
[RCSE] Three Things I Learned at the Field Today
We had a big turnout at the MOSS field this afternoon, old stalwlarts, lost souls returning, new faces, kids, flying everything from free flight to DLG to high tech unlimited to electric park flyers. So here's three things I learned at the field today: 1. If your stick isn't just the right size, the motor from the pico stick may come unstuck from the nose of your Chrysalis HLG, and part company with the plane without further notice. 2. Flying a Chrysalis HLG with the CG way the hell too far back is a challenging experience. 3. Chip Willis was trying to sort out his new DLG, and was on one side of the field urging his plane go up, baby, go up! Dave Willey, a new member and a free flighter was on the other side of the filed urging one of his stick and tissue models Come Down! Come Down, Baby!! That is the essential difference between RC sailplaners and freeflighters. Hope you all had an equally fun weekend. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] What is not a Skeg; DEFINED
So, Gordy's shins are skegs? - Original Message - From: Bill Swingle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RCSE Soaring (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 3:43 PM Subject: RE: [RCSE] What is not a Skeg; DEFINED Ack, another rules thread! Geez. The decision is simply Does the device in question arrest the plane after it contacts the ground? If yes, it's a skeg. If no, it ain't. What's to discuss? What am I missing? Bill Swingle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Janesville, CA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Wassailplane
We were on our way home from Cincinnati after visiting my folks Christmas Eve. I had figured on nuking up some left over Bambi Italiano for lunch and opening presents in the living room--but Nancy wanted to make a detour out to the barn where she boards her horse. Normally I avoid the horse barn like the plague. Actually it's allergies. However, I figured on Christmas Day no one else would be out there, and I had plans for the riding arena. Rew and I wanted to fly the little Lite Stick that Paul Wiese had sold us. So Nancy shoveled up after the horse, and Rew and I tried flying electric in a horse arena. We took down the jumps. No sense tempting fate. Contrary to rumors, the Lite Stick had enough rudder control to fly circles and figure eights in the arena. I think the owners of the horse barn may think I am a little nuts. But how many times do you get to fly your airplane door to door on Christmas? Wassailplane! Wassailplane! Please good lady can a charge my nicads? Could you spare a little scotch tape for a Christmas flier? Wassail plane! Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good landing. _ | Tom Nagel /O\ Columbus, OH --(___)-- RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Thought for the day
A thought for a gloomy November day: The sun is always shining, if you have sufficient altitude. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Product licensing nightmare
Trademark and copyright law is a real specialty area. My knowledge in that area is limited, and for me to take on a trademark case would be like Joe Wurts doing brain surgery on Gordy. Fun to watch, but probably not a good idea. Don and Joe are already doing what I would tell them to do. Publicize the problem, ask for feedback from other manufacturers and the AMA. - Original Message - From: Bruce Sandy Herider [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 5:51 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Product licensing nightmare Hey, Tom Nagel and some of you other legal types out there---how about some free non-binding legal advice for a couple of real nice guys--Don and Joe. Can't believe Lockheed-Martin (or whatever they're called now) could be so small as to sanction this guy's activity. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] My Heart Soars
Some of you know I'm a lawyer. Most of you read my stuff anyway. I am just finishing up a small post-decree domestic case for a client who is a native of Kuwait, and lives in that country, although his son and ex-wife are in the US. A couple of days ago I received an email from him: Dear Tom, I am sending this email to express our sympathy to you all. We all in Kuwait stand beside america, the land of freedom and liberty. God bless America. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] A shocking experience
This is known as Lee Trevino's Law : don't stand at the highest point holding a metal rod over your head when there is lightning around. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Re: [R/C Flying Wings] Mongo Senior Mods
Bill, and all the other Mongo-loids, I was really sorry to hear that the Mongo and MongoJr had gone out of production. I built a Mongo Jr. with the intent to thermal off a highstart, and made a few minor mods to that end. It thermals pretty well, and anyone looking for a 2 meter thermal wing would do well to start with the 2M Mongo Jr. as a kit to bash. Mods: RDS couplers, no external pushrod drag. Balsa winglets, covered in Tyvek from old mailing envelopes. Saves an ounce of tail weight and a lot of frontal area. Towhook. Trip strips on the top aft of the EPP an inch or so. A carbon tube spar, just aft of the CG (cause that's how long the piece was that I had on hand.) Laid in a groove cut in the bottom of the wing. And eventually, wing fences, just for the heck of it. _ | Tom Nagel new email addr/O\[EMAIL PROTECTED] --(___)-- RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Off Topic Request for Fiberglass Help
Oh Geez, Gordy is gonna get me for this. But it is sort of sailplane related, in that it involves fiberglass and wind. Wife bought a Sunfish sailboat. I need to install a drain plug. Gotta make a 7/8" hole in the fiberglass transom. If I use a spade bit will this mess up the FG? Anybody out there performed this surgery before? OK, just to keep Gordy happy: I flew the heck out of my $30 swap shop Bob Martin Talon last weekend, and really enjoyed it. We had a light wind day, but at one time we had in the air: a HLG Chrysalis, the Talon and Don Harris' new JW. Don even managed to thermal the JW. So there: in case you wondered, a properly trimmed JW will fly just fine in light air, even in Ohio. _ | Tom Nagel new email addr/O\[EMAIL PROTECTED] --(___)-- RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Closing Spoilers
The best thing I have found for closing spoilers is dental rubber bands, left over from when my kid had braces. They are small, tough, and seem to last forever. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Sort of Sail-plane related -- a soft wing for cats
I ran into a fellow who is involved with Dyna-Wing, a company developing soft-but-dual-surfaced wings for sailing catamarans, sailboards, and even cruising boats. Their web-site is www.dynawing.com The interesting thing from our point of view is that sailboat "wings" work at low reynolds numbers, just like we do, because typically the airspeed is fairly low. Additionally, sailboats have to deal with wind shear all the time. The wind speed at the top of the mast may be twice the wind speed at the deck level. Wing twist is a big deal for sailors, just like for flying wing nuts. Anyway, take a look at it if you want to see the next big thing in sailing. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] LSF Bean Recipe
I was trying to get in a 30 minute flight this summer, in my continuing quest to reach LSF III. I had about 15 minutes gone, and I was in trouble, low and scratching for lift. Don Harris and Bill Hoelcher were standing by trying to coach me a little, and another club member (who shall remain anonymous but whose initials are Chuck Rumele) was standing by. As Don and Bill were trying to coach me, Chuck let fly with a resounding donation of greenhouse gasesand my Gnome began to gain altitude. I got my 30 minute flight, and only had to repair a relatively small portion of the monokote. If any other LSF aspirants out there are interested, I will try to get Chuck's LSF III bean recipe for you. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] can you help this guy?
Here's a club buddy of mine that needs help dealing with the evil airage list server robot. - Original Message - From: rmong To: Tom H. Nagel Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 12:09 PM Subject: rcse Tom, Having trouble subscribing to the rcse list, any help would be appreciated, I can get to the address verification page They send me this: Form-Type: ( List-Manager-Commands) Command: (auth81d8e92e) Command: (subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Command: (end) I send this back but it will not take it , Any suggestions on what I should do? Thanks Ron
Re: [RCSE] DS'ing
I suggest LSSLeague for Smashing Sailplanes. - Original Message - From: "Dave Wenzlick" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "George Joy" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 8:37 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] DS'ing As dynamic soaring guru Dave Reese said to me upon my first venture into DS, "Welcome to the dark side." By the way, I thinking of starting a self achievement program similar to the LSF. This program one would be reserved exclusively for those risk perfectly nice glass ships for the thrill of the hill. Name suggestions... Dynamic Soaring Flight? DSF Dynamic Soaring Society? DSS You've probably already guessed what it takes to move up to each new level. OUCH! Just having fun. Don't send in your vouchers just yet. Dave WenzlickDSS Level II Mesa AZ George Joy wrote: Hi All, Well today I got my first chance to actually do DS'ing. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] models with models... or my glider launching system looks way better than yours!
Wow, the wind at that site must be awesome. Between the first and second picture, it ripped the clothes right off her! - Original Message - From: "Brian C" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 11:59 PM Subject: [RCSE] models with models... or my glider launching system looks way better than yours! As long as we are on the subject (blame Karlton), there are a couple pretty nice shots of my friend Kari and my Patton Spitfire located here. http://www.aloha.net/~[EMAIL PROTECTED] and http://www.aloha.net/~bugz/images/kariSpitfire1.jpg. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Handlaunch Shoulder Syndrome
This Spring and summer I made a serious attempt to learn how to fly HLG. What I learned was all about shoulder strain. The XC Nats might have had a hand in it. My job on the XC team was to throw the monster plane. "So, what do you do on the XC team, Nagel?" "I throw up." Anyway, the right shoulder got so bad I was having trouble combing my hair and using the remote for the garage door opener. It was getting close to the proverbial "Can't find his ass with both hands" situation. One of the hands wasn't working. Is that an excuse? I suspect that I am not alone in this problem, and I have been researching treatments. So here is a three step program to cure Handlaunch Shoulder Syndrome that seems to be working for me. A. Make a minor modification to your HLG, to help prevent further injury. Carefully locate the CG on the fuselage, and make a small mark at that point. Drill a hole in the bottom of the fuse 1/4" ahead of that point and install a little towhook. 2. Naproxen, two tabs twice a day. III. A series of four very low impact and simple exercises. -- bend over so your torso is more or less horizontal, let your arm hang down and gently swing your extended arm around in a circle, going first clockwise 12 turns and then counterclockwise 12 turns. Don't do anything that hurts. Each day, add a few circles. -- stand up and pretend you are using the arm on one end of a crosscut saw--12 or so push-pulls on the saw. Each day add a few saw cuts. --hold your arms to your sides and gently flap like a bird. If you are a severely wounded bird, like I was, just flap a foot or so up from your side, and do 12 or so flaps. Each day flap the arms a little higher and a little longer. --shrug your shoulders, and from time to time pretend you are trying to hold a soccer ball between hour shoulder blades. Tom Nagel Columbus, Ohio RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] A true story
Fellas, this is a true story. Sometimes I kind of blur the line between truth and fiction, between the hallowed fact and hallucination as it were. That probably comes from the influence of some of my favorite writers, Mark Twain, James Thurber, Gordy Stahl, people like that. But this one is true, so help me Dave Thornburg. I have be flying RC sailplanes for seven or eight years now, and my son Andrew has been tagging along the whole time, since he was about 5 years old. I have been offering him the chance to fly my planes since he was old enough to hold the TX. He hasn't been interested. He still tags along, though and has driven retriever carts at the Nats three times now. This summer when we went back to Muncie we took along one of his middle school buddies. Nostalgia/RES got rained out, so we wound up in the AMA museum in mid afternoon. The boys looked at stuff, played the flight simulators and then headed into the gift shop. They decided to spend some of their money on small balsa hand-toss gliders. Late in the day, Andrew and his buddy held an impromptu hand-toss glider contest in the back yard. The next day we were down in the basement and I showed him how to round the LE, taper the TE, round the fuse and saw off extra wood. The little 99cent toy glider began to fly better. Andrew said he wanted to build his own plane, and did I have any balsa? We got a couple of sheets of 1/16th balsa at the local hobby shop to supplement my giant box of scrap pieces. I have Andrew a few rules of thumb for model glider design and went to work. Andrew worked on his design while I was at the office. Late Friday night he and I had his first plane built--a biplane no less. We hand tossed in the yard and he was ecstatic when it actually glided a little bit. (I built a skinny monoplane with poly wings, taped on the bottom to keep them from tearing off on launch.) Then last Saturday we were back at the home field. A new member had a beautiful new Sailaire he wanted to fly for the first time; another guy wanted to try out a buddy box system; there were several high tech planes on the field as well, a Mantis and a Psycho I think. Somehow we all wound up throwing the little toy balsa hand-toss gliders, trying to see who could get the best flight out of them. The best times approached 13 seconds, about what I get on my typical RCHLG flights. I think I'm onto something here. All those batteries and servos and receivers are just weighing me down, making me interfere with the model's natural inclination to fly just fine all by itself. And maybe they were getting between Andrew and his desire to fly airplanes, too. Sunday Andrew built his second plane. Tom Nagel Columbus, Ohio RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Best Thing Since Slicing Bread
Rick Powers delivered my U-2 foamy kit a couple of days ago, and after the usual reading of plans and fondling of parts, I began to become concerned. After I glued the fuse and the jet intake parts together, I was left with this giant French Loaf of EPP to whittle on. The instructions said to remove everything that did not look like a U-2. I got worried about the sheer amount of EPP that was going to have to be carved away. I decided to experiment. We had this old "electric knife" in the cutlery drawer, a relic of the Nixon era I think. It has a thin set of serrated blades that vibrate back and forth in opposite directions. I don't recall the last time I used it on a turkey. Somehow it had escaped the periodic garage sales my wife does. So I appropriated it for the workbench. My last computer came with EPP shipping cushions, and I had a lot of scrap to practice on. The old electric knife cuts EPP fast and smoothly, and with no tearing or shredding. It will make deep cuts or shave off little slices. The surface after cutting is so smooth I'll hardly need to sand. If you are going to build in EPP, check out your local garage sales! Tom Nagel Columbus, Ohio RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Thermal Imaging
When the thermal imaging discussion came up (this time) I finally realized there are at least two philosophies at work here. One group wants to image thermals so they can fly their planes better. Another group flys their planes to get an image of the thermal worked out. As usual, I fall into the crack. I am just really really curious to see what a thermal looks like and see how it behaves in different circumstances. To that end, I would be glad to revive (as a venture off-line from RCSE) a discussion among interested parties in designing and writing a program to simulate thermal activity via cellular automaton. Some of you may remember Compton's game called "Life" from your early days of fiddling with computers. A field is cut up onto grids, and each cell is either 'dead' or 'alive' based on a few simple rules. To the surprise of Compton and everyone else,the simple minded "game" exhibits very lifelike behavior. A couple of years ago I suggested a cellular automaton to simulate atmospheric thermals, and got a couple of guys interested in writing programs. The effort petered out, but showed some promise. We had one little DOS program that sort of bubbled and burped but never developed big thermal plumes. I think I gave the writer the wrong set of rules. If any of you are interested, here's what we need: a programmer for Windows or DOS some folks with meteorological experience to describe the real world some folks to take a look at the Life game, and then suggest "rules" for the cellular automaton some folks to play with the program and see how it compares to our experience as flyers. Tom Nagel Columbus, Ohio RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] DS in Ohio
Dear Fellow RCSE Addicts, I will be signing off for a few days to have a try at DS here in Ohio. No not dynamic soaring. Deer Season, the religious holidays of the redneck sect. Play nice while I'm gone. Tom Nagel Columbus, Ohio RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Aileron Design
I have been looking at a slope foamie (for once not a flying wing) and have some questions about aileron size. This particular model has long narrow wings and uses 2" TE stock for ailerons. Out at the wingtip that is more than half the wing chord. Is this OK for a slope plane? Any difference if the plane is set up with flaperons or spoilerons? What about such a setup on a thermal plane? Tom Nagel Columbus, Ohio RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
