Re: Box disappears when mouse hovers over it

[AK]

On Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 12:57:41 PM UTC-6, Dirk Fieldhouse wrote:
> On 17/02/2021 03:28, AK wrote: 
> > When I post a question here, the box for "post your question" disappears 
> > when I hover my mouse over it. 
> > 
> > https://askubuntu.com/ 
> > 
> > It acts normally with Firefox. 
> > 
> > Any idea what is causing it?
> The button has this CSS background-color from its class s-btn__primary: 
> var(--theme-button-primary-background-color) 
> 
> See 
> <https://blog.logrocket.com/how-to-create-better-themes-with-css-variables-5a3744105c74/>
>  
> for discussion of this syntax. These CSS variables are part of a site theme. 
> 
> --theme-button-primary-background-color means --theme-primary-color, 
> which is hsl(12.87958115,76.70682731%,48.82352941%) -- call it "brick"; 
> 
> On hover, the button gets its background-color from its class 
> 
> var(--theme-button-primary-hover-background-color) 
> 
> --theme-button-primary-hover-background-color means 
> --theme-primary-color-darken-5, the brick colour with 43.82352941% 
> lightness. 
> 
> --theme-primary-color-darken-5 is defined using calc(), like this 
> 
> hsl( h, s, calc(var(--theme-primary-color-l) - 5%) 
> 
> but units inside calc() were not supported until FF57, and not in 
>  context until FF59. In SM 2.53.6, FF52, etc, apparently colours 
> specified with calc() default to white. SeaMonkey needs to acquire the 
> Stylo CSS engine. 
> 
> Notably the button text is styled white regardless of hovering, as the 
> theme doesn't contain variables like --theme-button-text-color and 
> --theme-button-text-hover-color. 
> 
> Consequently the button seems to disappear on hovering. 
> 
> This CSS can be injected to correct the display for the default site theme: 
> 
> .s-btn__primary:hover,.s-btn__primary:focus,.s-btn__primary:active { 
> color:#fff; 
> background-color:hsl(12.87958115,76.70682731%,43.82352941%); 
> } 
> 
> An extension like StyleM is good for this. 
> 
> Why anyone would think it's worthwhile to create this CSS is a mystery. 
> Affordance effects like button hovering ought to be consistent across 
> not just the browser and all websites displayed in it but all other 
> applications on the same GUI platform. 
> 
> /df 
> 
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Thanks for the explanation.

Andy
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Re: Box disappears when mouse hovers over it

[Dirk Fieldhouse]

On 17/02/2021 03:28, AK wrote:

When I post a question here, the box for "post your question" disappears when I 
hover my mouse over it.

https://askubuntu.com/

It acts normally with Firefox.

Any idea what is causing it?


The button has this CSS background-color from its class s-btn__primary:
 var(--theme-button-primary-background-color)

See 
<https://blog.logrocket.com/how-to-create-better-themes-with-css-variables-5a3744105c74/> 
for discussion of this syntax. These CSS variables are part of a site theme.


--theme-button-primary-background-color means --theme-primary-color, 
which is hsl(12.87958115,76.70682731%,48.82352941%) -- call it "brick";


On hover, the button gets its background-color from its class

var(--theme-button-primary-hover-background-color)

--theme-button-primary-hover-background-color means 
--theme-primary-color-darken-5, the brick colour with 43.82352941% 
lightness.


--theme-primary-color-darken-5 is defined using calc(), like this

hsl( h, s, calc(var(--theme-primary-color-l) - 5%)

but units inside calc() were not supported until FF57, and not in 
 context until FF59. In SM 2.53.6, FF52, etc, apparently colours 
specified with calc() default to white. SeaMonkey needs to acquire the 
Stylo CSS engine.


Notably the button text is styled white regardless of hovering, as the 
theme doesn't contain variables like --theme-button-text-color and 
--theme-button-text-hover-color.


Consequently the button seems to disappear on hovering.

This CSS can be injected to correct the display for the default site theme:

.s-btn__primary:hover,.s-btn__primary:focus,.s-btn__primary:active {
color:#fff;
background-color:hsl(12.87958115,76.70682731%,43.82352941%);
}

An extension like StyleM is good for this.

Why anyone would think it's worthwhile to create this CSS is a mystery. 
Affordance effects like button hovering ought to be consistent across 
not just the browser and all websites displayed in it but all other 
applications on the same GUI platform.


/df

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Box disappears when mouse hovers over it

[AK]

When I post a question here, the box for "post your question" disappears when I 
hover my mouse over it.

https://askubuntu.com/

It acts normally with Firefox.

Any idea what is causing it?

Thanks
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SeaMonkey composer and editor hang on Big Sur when bring up dialog box

[Robert Lingley]

I was foolish enough to upgrade to Big Sur when Apple asked me to!!

Now I can't get SeaMonkey Composer to create a link.  When it tries to add the 
link dialog box it freezes.  I upgraded to the latest standard release (2.53.4 
en) and it is still true.  The browser also hangs on a dialog open when you 
close it.  
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Re: Undoing in SM's web browser's web URL address form box.

[Dirk Fieldhouse]

On 03/10/2020 18:46, Ant wrote:
I noticed if I undo (^Z or with the mouse), I get old past web URL 
addresses even in new empty tabs. Is this by design? Shouldn't it only 
remember what was used in this tab only?


I believe the fact that there is one bar for all tabs in a browser 
window is a hint. The same doesn't happen between windows.


Also, there is a valid use case. You accidentally type a URL in the bar 
for a tab that you didn't mean to overwrite, delete it, switch to an 
empty tab, Undo, and there's your URL ready to go.


Underlying this is the metaphor that each window holds a set of related 
tabs, so that the user brings up a single window for some task, 
information source, or whatever.


Less satisfactory is the interaction with the OS. While tabbing can hide 
what would otherwise be a group of browser windows from task switchers 
and task bars, it breaks the Alt-Tab function for switching between the 
most recent GUI contexts. Here, currently, Firefox wins over SeaMonkey 
by allowing a tab to be promoted to a window (drag the tab out of the 
window) and then re-tabbed (drag the promoted tab back to the original); 
in the current SM, dragging a tab only works into another tab bar, and 
then it just replicates the dragged tab.


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Undoing in SM's web browser's web URL address form box.

[Ant]

I noticed if I undo (^Z or with the mouse), I get old past web URL 
addresses even in new empty tabs. Is this by design? Shouldn't it only 
remember what was used in this tab only?


Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)
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How to move full box to new disk and reduce it

[Pennie黃盼靈]

Hi!
I would like to know if I reinstall my system, what do I do I could reduce
my seamonkey?
Could I copy my old folders or copy what kind of file to the new installed
folder?
*System: Win 10 X86.


Thank you so much and look forward your reply.


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Re: Simple solution for Google search box: (Re: google search box)

[stan]

Paul Bergsagel wrote:
> I suffered from the Google search mess with SeaMonkey.  Then I came 
across a solution: I turned off "advertise Firefox compatibility".

>
> To turn off "advertise Firefox compatibility" go to SeaMonkey's 
preferences click on Advance>HTTP Networking>(uncheck)Advertise Firefox 
compatibility.

>
> This fix solved the difficulties I was having with Google.
>
> Google returned to its normal appearance.  Also With this setting 
turned off I have yet to find any negative effects on other sites. With 
this setting turned off, some sites even appear to work.


This use to worked but recently it stopped working.
It is same distorted box.
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Re: Simple solution for Google search box: (Re: google search box)

[stan]

Paul Bergsagel wrote:
I suffered from the Google search mess with SeaMonkey.  Then I came 
across a solution: I turned off "advertise Firefox compatibility".


To turn off "advertise Firefox compatibility" go to SeaMonkey's 
preferences click on Advance>HTTP Networking>(uncheck)Advertise Firefox 
compatibility.


This fix solved the difficulties I was having with Google.

Google returned to its normal appearance.  Also With this setting turned 
off I have yet to find any negative effects on other sites. With this 
setting turned off, some sites even appear to work.



This use to worked but recently it stopped working.
It is same distorted box.
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Re: MY - solution for Google search box: (Re: google search box)

[NFN Smith]

Ray_Net wrote:

My solution is to put in the user.js file:

user_pref("general.useragent.override.google.com", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows 
NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0)  Gecko/20100101 Firefox/63.0");



Although I prefer doing UA spoofing via extension, where I can change 
stuff on the fly, this is a good example of where using 
general.useragent.override for a specific site is useful.  For me, I'm 
content to put in prefs.js via about:config than the user.js file.


I've just done this to my own configs and confirmed it working, although 
I use Google's main search page infrequently enough that Google's 
display issue is more of an annoyance than a real problem.


That said, I would suggest using the string used by the Firefox ESR 
version, rather than the current version so that you don't have to 
remember to go back and change the version information when Firefox 
updates.  With the ESR numbers, you only have to do that when a new ESR 
cycle starts.


On my own setups, I'm using:


Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0


Smith

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Re: Simple solution for Google search box: (Re: google search box)

[Dirk Fieldhouse]

At the moment Google serves both old and new versions of its search 
pages. The search box problem is with the new home pages: eg 
https://www.google.[co.uk,fr,de,...]. However the new results pages, as 
of the last few months, are also corrupted.


Instead of spoofing the UA, you can restyle the pages.

The CSS below (NB unwrap the @-moz-document line) makes the new Google 
search pages appear sensibly. You can add this using an extension such 
as Stylish or Stylus, or through chrome/userContent.css in your profile 
directory (see the userContent-example.css shipped with SM in that 
directory for help).


@namespace url(http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml);

/* match google.[com, co.uk, .fr, ...][/search?..., ?gws_rd...] */
@-moz-document regexp( 
"^https?://www\\.google\\.(com|((co\\.)?[a-z]{2}))(/((search\\?|\\?gws_rd=.+))?)?") 
{


  /* fix search text box */
  #searchform form input[type="text"] {
/* vertical position of text */
margin-top: 0;
/* width of text field */
width: 49ch;
  }

  /* fix results page */
  /* use more of the window */
  body {
max-width: 90%;
  }
  /* put the search box in the middle */
  .Pg70bf {
justify-content: center;
  }
  /* highlight text boxes */
  .sbc input[type="text"] {
background:   honeydew;
  }
  /* re-add borders */
  body>div>div {
box-shadow: 0 0px 0px ;
  }
  /* spread footer nav out */
  footer>div:first-child>div>div {
display: flex;
justify-content: center;
  }
}


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Re: Simple solution for Google search box: (Re: google search box)

[Richard Owlett]

On 06/19/2019 08:13 PM, Paul Bergsagel wrote:
I suffered from the Google search mess with SeaMonkey.  Then I came 
across a solution: I turned off "advertise Firefox compatibility".


To turn off "advertise Firefox compatibility" go to SeaMonkey's 
preferences click on Advance>HTTP Networking>(uncheck)Advertise Firefox 
compatibility.


This fix solved the difficulties I was having with Google.

Google returned to its normal appearance.  Also With this setting turned 
off I have yet to find any negative effects on other sites. With this 
setting turned off, some sites even appear to work.




*THANK YOU* !
I had assumed that Google was one of sites placing graphics at absolute 
positions rather than making them a function of font size.



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Re: Simple solution for Google search box: (Re: google search box)

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Ronnie wrote:

hmmm after a quick test it seems it sends me to google mobile mode...


Paul Bergsagel wrote:
I suffered from the Google search mess with SeaMonkey.  Then I came across a 
solution: I turned off "advertise Firefox compatibility".


To turn off "advertise Firefox compatibility" go to SeaMonkey's preferences 
click on Advance>HTTP Networking>(uncheck)Advertise Firefox compatibility.


This fix solved the difficulties I was having with Google.

Google returned to its normal appearance.  Also With this setting turned off 
I have yet to find any negative effects on other sites. With this setting 
turned off, some sites even appear to work.




Turning off Firefox compatibility will break other web sites. Regardless of 
what you do something will not work unless you use a specific domain override. 
You can use a global override for every site to report a genunie Firefox UA 
but in this case you give sites even less incentive to do it right and bolster 
Firefox market share by another 0.001%. Something I personally dislike to no end.


FRG
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MY - solution for Google search box: (Re: google search box)

[Ray_Net]

My solution is to put in the user.js file:

user_pref("general.useragent.override.google.com", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows 
NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0)  Gecko/20100101 Firefox/63.0");


 (note if you use google.fr, you should use:

user_pref("general.useragent.override.google.fr", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows 
NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0)  Gecko/20100101 Firefox/63.0");



Ronnie wrote on 20-06-19 06:16:
Thanks, another user I think suggested that as well.. but I just now 
got around to trying it. it's better than my solution of yet 
another addon




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Re: Simple solution for Google search box: (Re: google search box)

[Ronnie]

hmmm after a quick test it seems it sends me to google mobile mode...


Paul Bergsagel wrote:
I suffered from the Google search mess with SeaMonkey.  Then I came 
across a solution: I turned off "advertise Firefox compatibility".


To turn off "advertise Firefox compatibility" go to SeaMonkey's 
preferences click on Advance>HTTP Networking>(uncheck)Advertise 
Firefox compatibility.


This fix solved the difficulties I was having with Google.

Google returned to its normal appearance.  Also With this setting 
turned off I have yet to find any negative effects on other sites. 
With this setting turned off, some sites even appear to work.





Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:



Daniel wrote:

David E. Ross wrote on 19/06/2019 2:41 PM:

On 6/18/2019 8:10 PM, Ronnie wrote:
I've been dealing with this quite a while and wonder if it's just 
me and

if not whats the fix... the search box in google with seamonkey is
hosed... the cursor places itself in a weird position and only allows
for so many characters to be entered before it starts to be hidden...


Windows 7
SeaMonkey 2.49.4

If I use Google, I always use its Advanced Search at
<http://www.google.com/advanced_search?hl=en>.  I do not see your
problem there.

However, I generally search with DuckDuckGo at
<https://duckduckgo.com/>.  They do not capture and retain any
information about me and my searches.

I seem to recall, some time ago, someone reporting that, when they 
used a (Google??) search engine, they were having difficulties 
seeing the text they entered  as though, to start, they were 
entering their text on line 2 of a 1.5 line high text box.


Some letters you could work out by their tops, some letters you 
could not work out!


I don't recall what the fix was ... as I also use dickduckgo.com.



Google does incorrect user agent sniffing and return html gobblygock 
to SeaMonkey. You need to set a plain Firefox user agent for this to 
work.


FRG


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Re: Simple solution for Google search box: (Re: google search box)

[Ronnie]

Thanks, another user I think suggested that as well.. but I just now got 
around to trying it. it's better than my solution of yet another 
addon



Paul Bergsagel wrote:
I suffered from the Google search mess with SeaMonkey.  Then I came 
across a solution: I turned off "advertise Firefox compatibility".


To turn off "advertise Firefox compatibility" go to SeaMonkey's 
preferences click on Advance>HTTP Networking>(uncheck)Advertise 
Firefox compatibility.


This fix solved the difficulties I was having with Google.

Google returned to its normal appearance.  Also With this setting 
turned off I have yet to find any negative effects on other sites. 
With this setting turned off, some sites even appear to work.





Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:



Daniel wrote:

David E. Ross wrote on 19/06/2019 2:41 PM:

On 6/18/2019 8:10 PM, Ronnie wrote:
I've been dealing with this quite a while and wonder if it's just 
me and

if not whats the fix... the search box in google with seamonkey is
hosed... the cursor places itself in a weird position and only allows
for so many characters to be entered before it starts to be hidden...


Windows 7
SeaMonkey 2.49.4

If I use Google, I always use its Advanced Search at
<http://www.google.com/advanced_search?hl=en>.  I do not see your
problem there.

However, I generally search with DuckDuckGo at
<https://duckduckgo.com/>.  They do not capture and retain any
information about me and my searches.

I seem to recall, some time ago, someone reporting that, when they 
used a (Google??) search engine, they were having difficulties 
seeing the text they entered  as though, to start, they were 
entering their text on line 2 of a 1.5 line high text box.


Some letters you could work out by their tops, some letters you 
could not work out!


I don't recall what the fix was ... as I also use dickduckgo.com.



Google does incorrect user agent sniffing and return html gobblygock 
to SeaMonkey. You need to set a plain Firefox user agent for this to 
work.


FRG


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Simple solution for Google search box: (Re: google search box)

[Paul Bergsagel]

I suffered from the Google search mess with SeaMonkey.  Then I came 
across a solution: I turned off "advertise Firefox compatibility".


To turn off "advertise Firefox compatibility" go to SeaMonkey's 
preferences click on Advance>HTTP Networking>(uncheck)Advertise Firefox 
compatibility.


This fix solved the difficulties I was having with Google.

Google returned to its normal appearance.  Also With this setting turned 
off I have yet to find any negative effects on other sites. With this 
setting turned off, some sites even appear to work.





Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:



Daniel wrote:

David E. Ross wrote on 19/06/2019 2:41 PM:

On 6/18/2019 8:10 PM, Ronnie wrote:
I've been dealing with this quite a while and wonder if it's just me 
and

if not whats the fix... the search box in google with seamonkey is
hosed... the cursor places itself in a weird position and only allows
for so many characters to be entered before it starts to be hidden...


Windows 7
SeaMonkey 2.49.4

If I use Google, I always use its Advanced Search at
<http://www.google.com/advanced_search?hl=en>.  I do not see your
problem there.

However, I generally search with DuckDuckGo at
<https://duckduckgo.com/>.  They do not capture and retain any
information about me and my searches.

I seem to recall, some time ago, someone reporting that, when they 
used a (Google??) search engine, they were having difficulties seeing 
the text they entered  as though, to start, they were entering 
their text on line 2 of a 1.5 line high text box.


Some letters you could work out by their tops, some letters you could 
not work out!


I don't recall what the fix was ... as I also use dickduckgo.com.



Google does incorrect user agent sniffing and return html gobblygock to 
SeaMonkey. You need to set a plain Firefox user agent for this to work.


FRG


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Re: google search box

[David E. Ross]

On 6/19/2019 1:21 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
> 
> 
> Daniel wrote:
>> David E. Ross wrote on 19/06/2019 2:41 PM:
>>> On 6/18/2019 8:10 PM, Ronnie wrote:
>>>> I've been dealing with this quite a while and wonder if it's just me and
>>>> if not whats the fix... the search box in google with seamonkey is
>>>> hosed... the cursor places itself in a weird position and only allows
>>>> for so many characters to be entered before it starts to be hidden...
>>>
>>> Windows 7
>>> SeaMonkey 2.49.4
>>>
>>> If I use Google, I always use its Advanced Search at
>>> <http://www.google.com/advanced_search?hl=en>.  I do not see your
>>> problem there.
>>>
>>> However, I generally search with DuckDuckGo at
>>> <https://duckduckgo.com/>.  They do not capture and retain any
>>> information about me and my searches.
>>>
>> I seem to recall, some time ago, someone reporting that, when they used a 
>> (Google??) search engine, they were having difficulties seeing the text they 
>> entered  as though, to start, they were entering their text on line 2 of 
>> a 
>> 1.5 line high text box.
>>
>> Some letters you could work out by their tops, some letters you could not 
>> work 
>> out!
>>
>> I don't recall what the fix was ... as I also use dickduckgo.com.
>>
> 
> Google does incorrect user agent sniffing and return html gobblygock to 
> SeaMonkey. You need to set a plain Firefox user agent for this to work.
> 
> FRG
> 

As I reported earlier in this thread, I do not see this problem at
Google's Advanced Search.  I generally disable "Advertise Firefox
compatibility", so my user agent string is
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.49.4

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Re: google search box

[Ronnie]

Thanks for the help! I'm on linux and it's been driving me crazy.. I 
found the newly update 'TotalSpoof' addon fixes it nicely... it's 
extremely lightweight and as an added plus it convinces the seamonkey 
addons site that all their plugins are compatible... in other words not 
greyed out... which will be great for most user... it also of course 
completely fixes the google search box issues...


https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/seamonkey/addon/totalspoof/?src=search

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:



Daniel wrote:

David E. Ross wrote on 19/06/2019 2:41 PM:

On 6/18/2019 8:10 PM, Ronnie wrote:
I've been dealing with this quite a while and wonder if it's just me 
and

if not whats the fix... the search box in google with seamonkey is
hosed... the cursor places itself in a weird position and only allows
for so many characters to be entered before it starts to be hidden...


Windows 7
SeaMonkey 2.49.4

If I use Google, I always use its Advanced Search at
<http://www.google.com/advanced_search?hl=en>.  I do not see your
problem there.

However, I generally search with DuckDuckGo at
<https://duckduckgo.com/>.  They do not capture and retain any
information about me and my searches.

I seem to recall, some time ago, someone reporting that, when they 
used a (Google??) search engine, they were having difficulties seeing 
the text they entered  as though, to start, they were entering 
their text on line 2 of a 1.5 line high text box.


Some letters you could work out by their tops, some letters you could 
not work out!


I don't recall what the fix was ... as I also use dickduckgo.com.



Google does incorrect user agent sniffing and return html gobblygock to 
SeaMonkey. You need to set a plain Firefox user agent for this to work.


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Re: google search box

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Daniel wrote:

David E. Ross wrote on 19/06/2019 2:41 PM:

On 6/18/2019 8:10 PM, Ronnie wrote:

I've been dealing with this quite a while and wonder if it's just me and
if not whats the fix... the search box in google with seamonkey is
hosed... the cursor places itself in a weird position and only allows
for so many characters to be entered before it starts to be hidden...


Windows 7
SeaMonkey 2.49.4

If I use Google, I always use its Advanced Search at
<http://www.google.com/advanced_search?hl=en>.  I do not see your
problem there.

However, I generally search with DuckDuckGo at
<https://duckduckgo.com/>.  They do not capture and retain any
information about me and my searches.

I seem to recall, some time ago, someone reporting that, when they used a 
(Google??) search engine, they were having difficulties seeing the text they 
entered  as though, to start, they were entering their text on line 2 of a 
1.5 line high text box.


Some letters you could work out by their tops, some letters you could not work 
out!


I don't recall what the fix was ... as I also use dickduckgo.com.



Google does incorrect user agent sniffing and return html gobblygock to 
SeaMonkey. You need to set a plain Firefox user agent for this to work.


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Re: google search box

[Daniel]

David E. Ross wrote on 19/06/2019 2:41 PM:

On 6/18/2019 8:10 PM, Ronnie wrote:

I've been dealing with this quite a while and wonder if it's just me and
if not whats the fix... the search box in google with seamonkey is
hosed... the cursor places itself in a weird position and only allows
for so many characters to be entered before it starts to be hidden...


Windows 7
SeaMonkey 2.49.4

If I use Google, I always use its Advanced Search at
<http://www.google.com/advanced_search?hl=en>.  I do not see your
problem there.

However, I generally search with DuckDuckGo at
<https://duckduckgo.com/>.  They do not capture and retain any
information about me and my searches.

I seem to recall, some time ago, someone reporting that, when they used 
a (Google??) search engine, they were having difficulties seeing the 
text they entered  as though, to start, they were entering their 
text on line 2 of a 1.5 line high text box.


Some letters you could work out by their tops, some letters you could 
not work out!


I don't recall what the fix was ... as I also use dickduckgo.com.

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or
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.49.5 Build identifier: 20190609032134


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Re: google search box

[David E. Ross]

On 6/18/2019 8:10 PM, Ronnie wrote:
> I've been dealing with this quite a while and wonder if it's just me and 
> if not whats the fix... the search box in google with seamonkey is 
> hosed... the cursor places itself in a weird position and only allows 
> for so many characters to be entered before it starts to be hidden...

Windows 7
SeaMonkey 2.49.4

If I use Google, I always use its Advanced Search at
<http://www.google.com/advanced_search?hl=en>.  I do not see your
problem there.

However, I generally search with DuckDuckGo at
<https://duckduckgo.com/>.  They do not capture and retain any
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google search box

[Ronnie]

I've been dealing with this quite a while and wonder if it's just me and 
if not whats the fix... the search box in google with seamonkey is 
hosed... the cursor places itself in a weird position and only allows 
for so many characters to be entered before it starts to be hidden...

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Re: Fix for incorrect google search box

[EE]

Paul Bergsagel wrote:

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:
As mentioned here several times before, I find Google services (at 
least search and maps) work best in SeaMonkey with "Advertise Firefox 
Compatibility" disabled, and exhibit those sort of issues with text 
input and menus when it's enabled.


Thanks. Disabling "advertise Firefox compatibility" restored the normal 
Google search box.


To turn off "Advertise Firefox compatibility" go to 
Preferences->advanced->Http Networking.  Uncheck "advertise Firefox 
compatibility".


There is another possibility.  You can use an override aimed at only one 
site.  For using Dailymotion with SeaMonkey, I set up this in about:config:
user_pref("general.useragent.override.dailymotion.com", "Mozilla/5.0 
(Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0");


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re: Fix for incorrect google search box

[Paul Bergsagel]

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:
As mentioned here several times before, I find Google services (at least 
search and maps) work best in SeaMonkey with "Advertise Firefox 
Compatibility" disabled, and exhibit those sort of issues with text 
input and menus when it's enabled.


Thanks. Disabling "advertise Firefox compatibility" restored the normal 
Google search box.


To turn off "Advertise Firefox compatibility" go to 
Preferences->advanced->Http Networking.  Uncheck "advertise Firefox 
compatibility".

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Re: Crash in my Windows XP Pro SP3 box with foreign characters. Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

[Gérard]

On 09/15/2015 10:44 AM, Ant wrote:

According to those links it is a known problem: Bug 1200021, reported
for Firefox 40 and Firefox 38esr.


I think I figured out the pattern of my crashes. It is happening when
there are foreign languages' characters like on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJomcfTgNZ8=1191 , http://google.cn ,
etc. Is there a way to block these foreign characters to avoid crashes?
It's not like I can read them. :(


Did you try to see, if this also happens with one of my builds here:
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/
?


No, but Walt said it is not fixed as shown in mentioned
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1200021 ? Or is there a bug
report of this issue? I'll be happy to use a prerelease with this fix
and if it is stable overall.


Sad. The 1200021 bug report hasn't changed since I last updated it even though I
was willing to help to test it. :(


it works with my XP version 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJomcfTgNZ8=1191

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Re: Crash in my Windows XP Pro SP3 box with foreign characters. Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

[Ant]

According to those links it is a known problem: Bug 1200021, reported
for Firefox 40 and Firefox 38esr.


I think I figured out the pattern of my crashes. It is happening when
there are foreign languages' characters like on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJomcfTgNZ8=1191 , http://google.cn ,
etc. Is there a way to block these foreign characters to avoid crashes?
It's not like I can read them. :(


Did you try to see, if this also happens with one of my builds here:
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/
?


No, but Walt said it is not fixed as shown in mentioned
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1200021 ? Or is there a bug
report of this issue? I'll be happy to use a prerelease with this fix
and if it is stable overall.


Sad. The 1200021 bug report hasn't changed since I last updated it even 
though I was willing to help to test it. :(

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Re: Crash in my Windows XP Pro SP3 box with foreign characters. Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

[Ant]

On 9/7/2015 1:41 AM, Adrian Kalla wrote:


According to those links it is a known problem: Bug 1200021, reported
for Firefox 40 and Firefox 38esr.


I think I figured out the pattern of my crashes. It is happening when
there are foreign languages' characters like on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJomcfTgNZ8=1191 , http://google.cn ,
etc. Is there a way to block these foreign characters to avoid crashes?
It's not like I can read them. :(


Did you try to see, if this also happens with one of my builds here:
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/ ?


No, but Walt said it is not fixed as shown in mentioned 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1200021 ? Or is there a bug 
report of this issue? I'll be happy to use a prerelease with this fix 
and if it is stable overall.

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Re: Crash in my Windows XP Pro SP3 box with foreign characters. Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

[Ant]

https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/c020cdb3-bcf8-41c4-89ce-016cb2150903
in a new SM profile with its defaults and no third party extensions.

https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/8a76830b-cee1-4a05-90fa-41b412150903
in safe mode with the new profile.


According to those links it is a known problem: Bug 1200021, reported
for Firefox 40 and Firefox 38esr.


I think I figured out the pattern of my crashes. It is happening when
there are foreign languages' characters like on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJomcfTgNZ8=1191 , http://google.cn ,
etc. Is there a way to block these foreign characters to avoid crashes?
It's not like I can read them. :(


FYI.
https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/6f845258-9280-494a-a806-5628c2150906
for a crash dump with a brand new profile and in safe mode. :(


And you don't believe the bug report listed in that crash report?

[1200021 – crash in
mozilla::layers::ContentClientDoubleBuffered::FinalizeFrame(nsIntRegion
const&)]


It looks like the same. I will add my two cents. Thanks.
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Re: Crash in my Windows XP Pro SP3 box with foreign characters. Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

[Adrian Kalla]

W dniu 09/07/2015 o 01:11 AM, Ant pisze:
fe mode with the new profile.
>>
>> According to those links it is a known problem: Bug 1200021, reported
>> for Firefox 40 and Firefox 38esr.
> 
> I think I figured out the pattern of my crashes. It is happening when
> there are foreign languages' characters like on
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJomcfTgNZ8=1191 , http://google.cn ,
> etc. Is there a way to block these foreign characters to avoid crashes?
> It's not like I can read them. :(

Did you try to see, if this also happens with one of my builds here:
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/ ?
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Re: Crash in my Windows XP Pro SP3 box. Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Ant wrote:


 crashes too. I
wonder if it is because of the foreign characters. :(


Plays fine here on Win7 SP1, SM 2.33.1 after a brief pause to load.

Of course, M$ discontinued support for that 12-year-old operating system 
a while back, so...


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Re: Crash in my Windows XP Pro SP3 box with foreign characters. Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

[Ant]

https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/c020cdb3-bcf8-41c4-89ce-016cb2150903
in a new SM profile with its defaults and no third party extensions.

https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/8a76830b-cee1-4a05-90fa-41b412150903

in safe mode with the new profile.


According to those links it is a known problem: Bug 1200021, reported
for Firefox 40 and Firefox 38esr.


I think I figured out the pattern of my crashes. It is happening when
there are foreign languages' characters like on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJomcfTgNZ8=1191 , http://google.cn ,
etc. Is there a way to block these foreign characters to avoid crashes?
It's not like I can read them. :(


FYI. 
https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/6f845258-9280-494a-a806-5628c2150906 
for a crash dump with a brand new profile and in safe mode. :(

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Re: Crash in my Windows XP Pro SP3 box with foreign characters. Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

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On 09/06/2015 07:21 PM, Ant wrote:

https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/c020cdb3-bcf8-41c4-89ce-016cb2150903

in a new SM profile with its defaults and no third party extensions.

https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/8a76830b-cee1-4a05-90fa-41b412150903


in safe mode with the new profile.


According to those links it is a known problem: Bug 1200021, reported
for Firefox 40 and Firefox 38esr.


I think I figured out the pattern of my crashes. It is happening when
there are foreign languages' characters like on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJomcfTgNZ8=1191 , http://google.cn ,
etc. Is there a way to block these foreign characters to avoid crashes?
It's not like I can read them. :(


FYI.
https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/6f845258-9280-494a-a806-5628c2150906
for a crash dump with a brand new profile and in safe mode. :(



And you don't believe the bug report listed in that crash report?

[1200021 – crash in 
mozilla::layers::ContentClientDoubleBuffered::FinalizeFrame(nsIntRegion 
const&)]




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Re: Crash in my Windows XP Pro SP3 box. Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

[Ant]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJomcfTgNZ8=1191 crashes too. I wonder 
if it is because of the foreign characters. :(



On 9/3/2015 12:56 PM, Ant wrote:

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ (hopefully only that web
page) crashes only one of my very old Windows XP Pro SP3 machine. :( I
was unable to reproduce it on another, but clean Windows XP Pro SP3
machine, in Debian oldstable/Linux and Mac OS X v10.8.5 machines. More
dumps in a new profile and its safe mode:

https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/c020cdb3-bcf8-41c4-89ce-016cb2150903
in a new SM profile with its defaults and no third party extensions.

https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/8a76830b-cee1-4a05-90fa-41b412150903
in safe mode with the new profile.

:(


On 9/3/2015 9:53 AM, Ant wrote:

Uh oh! Is anyone else getting SM crashes on
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ web page with v2.35? Or is it
just me?
https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/77035408-ffbd-429b-a5f3-5fc112150903

for a dump. I hope this version isn't buggy and force me to downgrade
back to v2.33.1 :(



On 9/3/2015 8:14 AM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Dear All,

I'm just so stoked. (This isn't a normal release post as it's just way
to special.)

It is with great privilege and joy that I can announce to the world, the
SeaMonkey Project has just RELEASED SeaMonkey 2.35.

SeaMonkey 2.33.1 was released in March.  It's now September.  Yes, you
have all suffered the worries of vulnerabilities.  But worry no longer
for the *actual* release of SeaMonkey 2.35 has been pushed to the
server. Win32, Linux and OSX64!

The SeaMonkey Project team wishes to thank EVERYONE for their patience
with us while we get back into the flow.  While we aren't actually
'flowing' (right now, limping), we are determined to get things back
to normal, now that we KNOW we can get things done.

So update your copy now!

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/

PS: SeaMonkey 2.38b1 is the next release.

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Re: Crash in my Windows XP Pro SP3 box with foreign characters. Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

[Ant]

On 9/4/2015 2:21 AM, Stefan Sitter wrote:


https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/c020cdb3-bcf8-41c4-89ce-016cb2150903

in a new SM profile with its defaults and no third party extensions.

https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/8a76830b-cee1-4a05-90fa-41b412150903

in safe mode with the new profile.


According to those links it is a known problem: Bug 1200021, reported
for Firefox 40 and Firefox 38esr.


I think I figured out the pattern of my crashes. It is happening when 
there are foreign languages' characters like on 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJomcfTgNZ8=1191 , http://google.cn , 
etc. Is there a way to block these foreign characters to avoid crashes? 
It's not like I can read them. :(

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Re: Crash in my Windows XP Pro SP3 box. Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

[Stefan Sitter]

On 03.09.2015 21:56, Ant wrote:

https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/c020cdb3-bcf8-41c4-89ce-016cb2150903
in a new SM profile with its defaults and no third party extensions.

https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/8a76830b-cee1-4a05-90fa-41b412150903
in safe mode with the new profile.


According to those links it is a known problem: Bug 1200021, reported 
for Firefox 40 and Firefox 38esr.


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Re: Crash in my Windows XP Pro SP3 box. Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

[Ant]

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ (hopefully only that web 
page) crashes only one of my very old Windows XP Pro SP3 machine. :( I 
was unable to reproduce it on another, but clean Windows XP Pro SP3 
machine, in Debian oldstable/Linux and Mac OS X v10.8.5 machines. More 
dumps in a new profile and its safe mode:


https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/c020cdb3-bcf8-41c4-89ce-016cb2150903 
in a new SM profile with its defaults and no third party extensions.


https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/8a76830b-cee1-4a05-90fa-41b412150903 
in safe mode with the new profile.


:(


On 9/3/2015 9:53 AM, Ant wrote:

Uh oh! Is anyone else getting SM crashes on
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ web page with v2.35? Or is it
just me?
https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/77035408-ffbd-429b-a5f3-5fc112150903
for a dump. I hope this version isn't buggy and force me to downgrade
back to v2.33.1 :(



On 9/3/2015 8:14 AM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Dear All,

I'm just so stoked. (This isn't a normal release post as it's just way
to special.)

It is with great privilege and joy that I can announce to the world, the
SeaMonkey Project has just RELEASED SeaMonkey 2.35.

SeaMonkey 2.33.1 was released in March.  It's now September.  Yes, you
have all suffered the worries of vulnerabilities.  But worry no longer
for the *actual* release of SeaMonkey 2.35 has been pushed to the
server. Win32, Linux and OSX64!

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Re: In Box

[WaltS48]

On 06/25/2015 09:19 AM, Marie DeWees wrote:

This is what I get when I try to download my messages into SeaMonkey.
Same as in Thunderbird.

Your Safe Kids May 2015 Newsletter  Safe Kids Worldwide 5/14/2015
3:25pm

I now have 157 of them.  No other emails.  I hope the emails I am trying
to send are
actually sending, but I am not receiving anything but what is listed
above.  Tried a
couple of test messages this am.  Did not receive.

Help!

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In Box

[Marie DeWees]

This is what I get when I try to download my messages into SeaMonkey.  
Same as in Thunderbird.


Your Safe Kids May 2015 Newsletter  Safe Kids Worldwide 5/14/2015 3:25pm

I now have 157 of them.  No other emails.  I hope the emails I am trying 
to send are
actually sending, but I am not receiving anything but what is listed 
above.  Tried a

couple of test messages this am.  Did not receive.

Help!

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Re: NHL.com's home page crashes my SeaMonkey v2.33.1 in old 32bit Windows XP Pro SP3 box.

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Ant wrote:


I noticed before the crash, there is a long CPU usage and SM doesn't
respond anymore. What about yours?

I couldn't reproduce it in my 64-bit Debian oldstable (Wheezy)'s 64-bit
SeaMonkey v2.33.1 though, but I did a script pop-up message to stop or
continue. If I let it continue, then it hogs CPU as well until the
message pop-up again. :/

Thank you in advance. :)


Yeah, they've had bad javascripts there for a long time. Fortunately, I 
can block them with AdBlock Plus, but I have to periodically update the 
filter as they rewrite and rename the script. It's not you.


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Re: Find box invoked without being requested

[Bill Spikowski]

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

Bill Spikowski wrote:

Does anyone else have the problem where they're typing something into a
web form in SM and suddenly the find box pops open and the cursor is
entering my text there, instead of in the web form?

This has been happening quite a lot and I kept assuming I was hitting
some odd key combination that replicated 'control F' -- but today I've
been paying attention and it's been happening randomly, even when I'm
sure I'm not hitting any odd key combination, or any specific key.

If this is happening only to me, I'd better investigate my keyboard!


A couple of thoughts...

1. Is this a general problem, or does it only happen one or a few particular 
sites? It may be that the page is still loading when you start typing, and when 
it finishes loading, it runs some Javascript which affects the keyboard focus, 
so you're no longer typing in the text box.


For me, it's a general problem, on multiple computers, different OSs, and 
various websites, but only when I'm using the SM browser. It might not happen 
for a few days, then five times in one day. It's not something that occurs only 
when a page has been freshly loaded.




2. Are you using a laptop with a touchpad? It's possible that your wrist taps the 
touchpad, causing a mouse click outside of the box you're filling in, thus 
removing keyboard focus from it. If possible, try disabling the tap-to-click 
feature or adjusting its sensitivity (in Windows, there's probably an option 
somewhere under Control Panel  Mouse, though the exact place varies with 
manufacturer and Windows version).

It does happen on my laptop, in which case I always assume I brushed the 
touchpad! When it happens on desktop machines, first I assumed that the mouse 
must have moved slightly as I was typing -- but I've eliminated that 
possibility, so it's something else



In both cases, having positioned the keyboard focus outside of the text box, continuing to type 
activates the find as you type feature (as others have mentioned). It can be disabled 
at Edit  Preferences  Advanced  Find As You Type, but you'll probably find that the 
keyboard focus still keeps leaving the text box, and just doesn't activate the find box having 
done so.

I'm not sure what you mean. If I'm in the middle of typing in a text box, how 
could the keyboard focus be somewhere else? (other than possibilities you 
mention above). Are you saying that would be the symptom of another problem, if 
Find As You Type has been disabled?

If the focus somehow moves outside the text box, but not to the find box, what 
would happen? Does that mean my typing would suddenly have no effect until I 
put the cursor back in the a box and continued typing? I'll watch for that 
behavior.

I've disabled Edit  Preferences  Advanced  Find As You Type. So far, I don't 
seem to have lost any functionality, and the find box hasn't suddenly opened, nor has 
the focus jumped out of a box, but it's only been one day.

Thanks for the observations, I'd love to get this minor annoyance sorted out.
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Re: Find box invoked without being requested

[Bill Spikowski]

hawker wrote:

On 12/15/2014 10:11 AM, Bill Spikowski wrote:

pjdkru...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes, it's an accessibility feature called Type Ahead Find which is
enabled by default in SeaMonkey.  In about:config you can disable by
setting these prefs to false:

accessibility.typeaheadfind
accessibility.typeaheadfind.autostart


I've changed both to FALSE, as suggested -- thank you!

Does anyone know what Type Ahead Find is supposed to do?



 I think the default is well chosen.
I often to search in a page. It is anoying to have to enter CTRL-F then type. 
This way I can just type. I don't have the problems you have. To enter in a web 
box and not search just make sure the web box is selected first.


What do you mean by make sure the web box is selected first? If I'm in the 
middle of typing in a web box, doesn't that mean that web box has already been selected? 
Is there some other step I've been missing?




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Re: Find box invoked without being requested

[David H. Durgee]

Bill Spikowski wrote:

hawker wrote:

On 12/15/2014 10:11 AM, Bill Spikowski wrote:

pjdkru...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes, it's an accessibility feature called Type Ahead Find which is
enabled by default in SeaMonkey.  In about:config you can disable by
setting these prefs to false:

accessibility.typeaheadfind
accessibility.typeaheadfind.autostart


I've changed both to FALSE, as suggested -- thank you!

Does anyone know what Type Ahead Find is supposed to do?



 I think the default is well chosen.
I often to search in a page. It is anoying to have to enter CTRL-F
then type. This way I can just type. I don't have the problems you
have. To enter in a web box and not search just make sure the web box
is selected first.


What do you mean by make sure the web box is selected first? If I'm in
the middle of typing in a web box, doesn't that mean that web box has
already been selected? Is there some other step I've been missing?



Is it possible that you are hitting a tab that takes you out of the 
input field in the form?  Is it possible that the field in the form is 
of a specific length and forwards you to something other than another 
text input field when you hit the last character?  Either of these could 
result in the behavior you report.


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Re: Find box invoked without being requested

[Bill Spikowski]

David H. Durgee wrote:

Bill Spikowski wrote:

What do you mean by make sure the web box is selected first? If I'm in
the middle of typing in a web box, doesn't that mean that web box has
already been selected? Is there some other step I've been missing?


Is it possible that you are hitting a tab that takes you out of the input field 
in the form?  Is it possible that the field in the form is of a specific length 
and forwards you to something other than another text input field when you hit 
the last character? Either of these could result in the behavior you report.


I considered the possibility that my finger was inadvertently hitting the tab 
key, but that's definitely not the problem.

Putting the cursor back in the text box allow me to continue inputting text, so 
it's not a size limitation of the text boxes.

The only pattern I found (once, on one web site) was that hitting a W always dumped me 
to the find box, while typing other letters did not. I wondered if my keyboard was substituting 
something else for W; but I've never seen that behavior again, and haven't been able to 
identify any other patterns.

I truly appreciate all the ideas offered in this group!

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Re: Find box invoked without being requested

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Bill Spikowski wrote:

hawker wrote:

On 12/15/2014 10:11 AM, Bill Spikowski wrote:

pjdkru...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes, it's an accessibility feature called Type Ahead Find which is
enabled by default in SeaMonkey.  In about:config you can disable by
setting these prefs to false:

accessibility.typeaheadfind
accessibility.typeaheadfind.autostart


I've changed both to FALSE, as suggested -- thank you!

Does anyone know what Type Ahead Find is supposed to do?



 I think the default is well chosen.
I often to search in a page. It is anoying to have to enter CTRL-F then type. 
This way I can just type. I don't have the problems you have. To enter in a 
web box and not search just make sure the web box is selected first.


What do you mean by make sure the web box is selected first? If I'm in the 
middle of typing in a web box, doesn't that mean that web box has already been 
selected? Is there some other step I've been missing?






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Re: Find box invoked without being requested

[mozilla-lists . mbourne]

Bill Spikowski wrote:

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

Bill Spikowski wrote:

Does anyone else have the problem where they're typing something into a
web form in SM and suddenly the find box pops open and the cursor is
entering my text there, instead of in the web form?

This has been happening quite a lot and I kept assuming I was hitting
some odd key combination that replicated 'control F' -- but today I've
been paying attention and it's been happening randomly, even when I'm
sure I'm not hitting any odd key combination, or any specific key.

If this is happening only to me, I'd better investigate my keyboard!


A couple of thoughts...

1. Is this a general problem, or does it only happen one or a few
particular sites? It may be that the page is still loading when you
start typing, and when it finishes loading, it runs some Javascript
which affects the keyboard focus, so you're no longer typing in the
text box.


For me, it's a general problem, on multiple computers, different OSs,
and various websites, but only when I'm using the SM browser. It might
not happen for a few days, then five times in one day. It's not
something that occurs only when a page has been freshly loaded.




2. Are you using a laptop with a touchpad? It's possible that your
wrist taps the touchpad, causing a mouse click outside of the box
you're filling in, thus removing keyboard focus from it. If possible,
try disabling the tap-to-click feature or adjusting its sensitivity
(in Windows, there's probably an option somewhere under Control Panel
 Mouse, though the exact place varies with manufacturer and Windows
version).

It does happen on my laptop, in which case I always assume I brushed the
touchpad! When it happens on desktop machines, first I assumed that the
mouse must have moved slightly as I was typing -- but I've eliminated
that possibility, so it's something else


OK. Sounds like you've ruled out both those possibilities.



In both cases, having positioned the keyboard focus outside of the
text box, continuing to type activates the find as you type feature
(as others have mentioned). It can be disabled at Edit  Preferences 
Advanced  Find As You Type, but you'll probably find that the
keyboard focus still keeps leaving the text box, and just doesn't
activate the find box having done so.

I'm not sure what you mean. If I'm in the middle of typing in a text
box, how could the keyboard focus be somewhere else? (other than
possibilities you mention above).


I was just clarifying how the things I was suggesting could cause the 
symptoms you describe. Several other things might cause it (faulty 
keyboard or mouse, device driver, malware...) but I'd expect them to 
affect other applications as well, and not affect every system you use.


Another thought is a misbehaving extension in SeaMonkey.
- Disable all extensions (under Tools  Add-ons manager), and check if 
the problem occurs.
- If it doesn't it's caused by one of those extensions, so now to figure 
out which... Start enabling them one at a time, seeing if the problem 
occurs each time before enabling the next. When it starts happening 
again, the last extension you enabled is the suspect.


Unless you can find a page which reliably reproduces the problem, it 
might be quite time consuming to track down - it sounds like you'd have 
to try a configuration for several days to be sure whether the problem 
is fixed or just not happening today!


There are some other troubleshooting suggestions at:
  http://kb.mozillazine.org/Standard_diagnostic_-_Firefox
Although aimed at Firefox, most of these apply to SeaMonkey as well.


Are you saying that would be the
symptom of another problem, if Find As You Type has been disabled?


Disabling Find As You Type might give more information as to what's 
going on.

- If there's a bug in that feature, disabling it might fix the problem.
- If there nothing wrong with that feature, but something else (e.g. 
things I've mentioned above) is causing the keyboard focus to leave the 
text box, that problem would still happen, but when it does text would 
just stop going into the text box without activating the find box.
- If an extension is causing the problem, either of the above could 
happen, depending exactly how the extension is causing it.



If the focus somehow moves outside the text box, but not to the find
box, what would happen? Does that mean my typing would suddenly have no
effect until I put the cursor back in the a box and continued typing?
I'll watch for that behavior.


Yes. If Find As You Type is disabled, and focus is outside of form 
controls, most typing would stop having any effect until the cursor is 
back in the text box. Some keystrokes might have other effects (e.g. 
space might scroll the window down a page) depending on other shortcuts 
/ settings, but the main points are that text would stop going into the 
text box, but the find box would not be activated.


Even with find automatically when typing

Re: Find box invoked without being requested

[Cruz, Jaime]

hawker wrote:

On 12/15/2014 10:11 AM, Bill Spikowski wrote:

pjdkru...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes, it's an accessibility feature called Type Ahead Find which is
enabled by default in SeaMonkey.  In about:config you can disable by
setting these prefs to false:

accessibility.typeaheadfind
accessibility.typeaheadfind.autostart


I've changed both to FALSE, as suggested -- thank you!

Does anyone know what Type Ahead Find is supposed to do?



  I think the default is well chosen.
I often to search in a page. It is anoying to have to enter CTRL-F then
type. This way I can just type. I don't have the problems you have. To
enter in a web box and not search just make sure the web box is selected
first.

This feature is a huge time saver to me.


On Facebook, the FIRST character would appear in the text box, but then 
every other character appeared in a FIND box that suddenly appeared 
out of nowhere at the top of the screen.  It got REALLY annoying having 
to click in the text box after EVERY letter to enter sentences.  Ever 
since I made the change, this idiocy doesn't happen anymore.  I was 
getting ready to just make Chrome my default browser but now I can 
continue using Seamonkey.


Now, if only they'd fix that problem in the newsreader...

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Re: Find box invoked without being requested

[Ray_Net]

Cruz, Jaime wrote on 15/12/2014 04:54:

pjdkru...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, it's an accessibility feature called Type Ahead Find which is 
enabled by default in SeaMonkey.  In about:config you can disable by 
setting these prefs to false:


accessibility.typeaheadfind
accessibility.typeaheadfind.autostart


THANK YOU!  This was driving me NUTS!!


It seems that the default are not well choiced :-)
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Re: Find box invoked without being requested

[Bill Spikowski]

pjdkru...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes, it's an accessibility feature called Type Ahead Find which is enabled by 
default in SeaMonkey.  In about:config you can disable by setting these prefs 
to false:

accessibility.typeaheadfind
accessibility.typeaheadfind.autostart


I've changed both to FALSE, as suggested -- thank you!

Does anyone know what Type Ahead Find is supposed to do?

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Re: Find box invoked without being requested

[WaltS48]

On 12/15/2014 10:11 AM, Bill Spikowski wrote:

pjdkru...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes, it's an accessibility feature called Type Ahead Find which is
enabled by default in SeaMonkey.  In about:config you can disable by
setting these prefs to false:

accessibility.typeaheadfind
accessibility.typeaheadfind.autostart


I've changed both to FALSE, as suggested -- thank you!

Does anyone know what Type Ahead Find is supposed to do?



[Keyboard Feature: Find As You 
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Re: Find box invoked without being requested

[hawker]

On 12/15/2014 10:11 AM, Bill Spikowski wrote:

pjdkru...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes, it's an accessibility feature called Type Ahead Find which is
enabled by default in SeaMonkey.  In about:config you can disable by
setting these prefs to false:

accessibility.typeaheadfind
accessibility.typeaheadfind.autostart


I've changed both to FALSE, as suggested -- thank you!

Does anyone know what Type Ahead Find is supposed to do?



 I think the default is well chosen.
I often to search in a page. It is anoying to have to enter CTRL-F then 
type. This way I can just type. I don't have the problems you have. To 
enter in a web box and not search just make sure the web box is selected 
first.


This feature is a huge time saver to me.
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Re: Find box invoked without being requested

[mozilla-lists . mbourne]

Bill Spikowski wrote:

Does anyone else have the problem where they're typing something into a
web form in SM and suddenly the find box pops open and the cursor is
entering my text there, instead of in the web form?

This has been happening quite a lot and I kept assuming I was hitting
some odd key combination that replicated 'control F' -- but today I've
been paying attention and it's been happening randomly, even when I'm
sure I'm not hitting any odd key combination, or any specific key.

If this is happening only to me, I'd better investigate my keyboard!


A couple of thoughts...

1. Is this a general problem, or does it only happen one or a few 
particular sites? It may be that the page is still loading when you 
start typing, and when it finishes loading, it runs some Javascript 
which affects the keyboard focus, so you're no longer typing in the text 
box.


2. Are you using a laptop with a touchpad? It's possible that your wrist 
taps the touchpad, causing a mouse click outside of the box you're 
filling in, thus removing keyboard focus from it. If possible, try 
disabling the tap-to-click feature or adjusting its sensitivity (in 
Windows, there's probably an option somewhere under Control Panel  
Mouse, though the exact place varies with manufacturer and Windows version).


In both cases, having positioned the keyboard focus outside of the text 
box, continuing to type activates the find as you type feature (as 
others have mentioned). It can be disabled at Edit  Preferences  
Advanced  Find As You Type, but you'll probably find that the keyboard 
focus still keeps leaving the text box, and just doesn't activate the 
find box having done so.


Mark.

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Re: Find box invoked without being requested

[Ray_Net]

hawker wrote on 15/12/2014 18:29:

On 12/15/2014 10:11 AM, Bill Spikowski wrote:

pjdkru...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes, it's an accessibility feature called Type Ahead Find which is
enabled by default in SeaMonkey.  In about:config you can disable by
setting these prefs to false:

accessibility.typeaheadfind
accessibility.typeaheadfind.autostart


I've changed both to FALSE, as suggested -- thank you!

Does anyone know what Type Ahead Find is supposed to do?



 I think the default is well chosen.
I often to search in a page. It is anoying to have to enter CTRL-F 
then type. This way I can just type. I don't have the problems you 
have. To enter in a web box and not search just make sure the web box 
is selected first.


This feature is a huge time saver to me.
The problem is when the page is presented WITHOUT a webbox selected  
and in this case, i found very annoying this stupid feature - This is 
not because i type something that i want to search in a page.


CTRL-F is the best way of working. And CTRL-F is more interesting and 
doesnot dissappear suddenly(the feature dissapear in les than 2 seconds)


I also have changed both to FALSE, as suggested -- thank you!

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Find box invoked without being requested

[Bill Spikowski]

Does anyone else have the problem where they're typing something into a web form in SM 
and suddenly the find box pops open and the cursor is entering my text there, 
instead of in the web form?

This has been happening quite a lot and I kept assuming I was hitting some odd 
key combination that replicated 'control F' -- but today I've been paying 
attention and it's been happening randomly, even when I'm sure I'm not hitting 
any odd key combination, or any specific key.

If this is happening only to me, I'd better investigate my keyboard!
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Re: Find box invoked without being requested

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Yes, it's an accessibility feature called Type Ahead Find which is enabled by 
default in SeaMonkey.  In about:config you can disable by setting these prefs 
to false: 

accessibility.typeaheadfind
accessibility.typeaheadfind.autostart

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Re: Find box invoked without being requested

[Cruz, Jaime]

pjdkru...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes, it's an accessibility feature called Type Ahead Find which is enabled by 
default in SeaMonkey.  In about:config you can disable by setting these prefs 
to false:

accessibility.typeaheadfind
accessibility.typeaheadfind.autostart


THANK YOU!  This was driving me NUTS!!

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Re: Missing search box in the top right corner on twcondemand.com web site?

[Daniel]

On 02/12/14 07:31, mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

EE wrote:

Daniel wrote:

On 30/11/14 03:26, Ant wrote:

On 11/29/2014 4:35 AM PT, Daniel typed:


http://www.twcondemand.com/ is missing it. Or is it just me with
v2.26.1 web browser? I see it in my Windows XP Pro SP3's IE8
though.


Are you talking about the Search Box to the right of the
My-On-Demand?? I can see that in my Linux installed SM.


Not here in SM 2.30/Win7 Pro SP1.


I figured out why I didn't see a search form box. It is because of my
minimum font size set to 13 (12 and none worked). I hate tiny font
sizes. :( Are you using the same minimum font size?


My minimum font size is set to 12pt.


So changing to 13 or higher will show the search form box gone on
yours?


I just went into Prefs, set 14 as my minimum font size, re-booted SM,
and clicked the link . and had no search bar.  :-(

I wonder if the pages' code is set so that the search bar is on the very
right limit of the page, so that any increase in the font size causes
the search box to extend past the edge of the page, and so not be shown
at all??

(If anyone is interested in having a look, the Search appears in line
159 of the code.)


In that case, would you not see a horizontal scroll bar?


Not if CSS overflow property is set to hidden at some level - which it
is for div class=divider, which ultimately contains the Search box.
That causes any content which doesn't fit into the specified box to be
clipped, without a scrollbar.

Mark.


Thanks for this explanation, Mark.

Daniel


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Re: Missing search box in the top right corner on twcondemand.com web site?

[Daniel]

On 01/12/14 05:09, EE wrote:

Daniel wrote:

On 30/11/14 03:26, Ant wrote:

On 11/29/2014 4:35 AM PT, Daniel typed:


http://www.twcondemand.com/ is missing it. Or is it just me with
v2.26.1 web browser? I see it in my Windows XP Pro SP3's IE8
though.


Are you talking about the Search Box to the right of the
My-On-Demand?? I can see that in my Linux installed SM.


Not here in SM 2.30/Win7 Pro SP1.


I figured out why I didn't see a search form box. It is because of my
minimum font size set to 13 (12 and none worked). I hate tiny font
sizes. :( Are you using the same minimum font size?


My minimum font size is set to 12pt.


So changing to 13 or higher will show the search form box gone on yours?


I just went into Prefs, set 14 as my minimum font size, re-booted SM,
and clicked the link . and had no search bar.  :-(

I wonder if the pages' code is set so that the search bar is on the very
right limit of the page, so that any increase in the font size causes
the search box to extend past the edge of the page, and so not be shown
at all??

(If anyone is interested in having a look, the Search appears in line
159 of the code.)


In that case, would you not see a horizontal scroll bar?


Don't know, EE just reporting what I found!

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Re: Missing search box in the top right corner on twcondemand.com web site?

[mozilla-lists . mbourne]

EE wrote:

Daniel wrote:

On 30/11/14 03:26, Ant wrote:

On 11/29/2014 4:35 AM PT, Daniel typed:


http://www.twcondemand.com/ is missing it. Or is it just me with
v2.26.1 web browser? I see it in my Windows XP Pro SP3's IE8
though.


Are you talking about the Search Box to the right of the
My-On-Demand?? I can see that in my Linux installed SM.


Not here in SM 2.30/Win7 Pro SP1.


I figured out why I didn't see a search form box. It is because of my
minimum font size set to 13 (12 and none worked). I hate tiny font
sizes. :( Are you using the same minimum font size?


My minimum font size is set to 12pt.


So changing to 13 or higher will show the search form box gone on yours?


I just went into Prefs, set 14 as my minimum font size, re-booted SM,
and clicked the link . and had no search bar.  :-(

I wonder if the pages' code is set so that the search bar is on the very
right limit of the page, so that any increase in the font size causes
the search box to extend past the edge of the page, and so not be shown
at all??

(If anyone is interested in having a look, the Search appears in line
159 of the code.)


In that case, would you not see a horizontal scroll bar?


Not if CSS overflow property is set to hidden at some level - which it 
is for div class=divider, which ultimately contains the Search box. 
That causes any content which doesn't fit into the specified box to be 
clipped, without a scrollbar.


Mark.

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Re: Missing search box in the top right corner on twcondemand.com web site?

[Daniel]

On 30/11/14 03:26, Ant wrote:

On 11/29/2014 4:35 AM PT, Daniel typed:


http://www.twcondemand.com/ is missing it. Or is it just me with
v2.26.1 web browser? I see it in my Windows XP Pro SP3's IE8
though.


Are you talking about the Search Box to the right of the
My-On-Demand?? I can see that in my Linux installed SM.


Not here in SM 2.30/Win7 Pro SP1.


I figured out why I didn't see a search form box. It is because of my
minimum font size set to 13 (12 and none worked). I hate tiny font
sizes. :( Are you using the same minimum font size?


My minimum font size is set to 12pt.


So changing to 13 or higher will show the search form box gone on yours?


I just went into Prefs, set 14 as my minimum font size, re-booted SM, 
and clicked the link . and had no search bar.  :-(


I wonder if the pages' code is set so that the search bar is on the very 
right limit of the page, so that any increase in the font size causes 
the search box to extend past the edge of the page, and so not be shown 
at all??


(If anyone is interested in having a look, the Search appears in line 
159 of the code.)


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Re: Missing search box in the top right corner on twcondemand.com web site?

[EE]

Daniel wrote:

On 30/11/14 03:26, Ant wrote:

On 11/29/2014 4:35 AM PT, Daniel typed:


http://www.twcondemand.com/ is missing it. Or is it just me with
v2.26.1 web browser? I see it in my Windows XP Pro SP3's IE8
though.


Are you talking about the Search Box to the right of the
My-On-Demand?? I can see that in my Linux installed SM.


Not here in SM 2.30/Win7 Pro SP1.


I figured out why I didn't see a search form box. It is because of my
minimum font size set to 13 (12 and none worked). I hate tiny font
sizes. :( Are you using the same minimum font size?


My minimum font size is set to 12pt.


So changing to 13 or higher will show the search form box gone on yours?


I just went into Prefs, set 14 as my minimum font size, re-booted SM,
and clicked the link . and had no search bar.  :-(

I wonder if the pages' code is set so that the search bar is on the very
right limit of the page, so that any increase in the font size causes
the search box to extend past the edge of the page, and so not be shown
at all??

(If anyone is interested in having a look, the Search appears in line
159 of the code.)


In that case, would you not see a horizontal scroll bar?

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Re: Missing search box in the top right corner on twcondemand.com web site?

[Daniel]

On 29/11/14 09:56, Ant wrote:

On 11/28/2014 5:44 AM PT, Paul B. Gallagher typed:


http://www.twcondemand.com/ is missing it. Or is it just me with
v2.26.1 web browser? I see it in my Windows XP Pro SP3's IE8
though.


Are you talking about the Search Box to the right of the
My-On-Demand?? I can see that in my Linux installed SM.


Not here in SM 2.30/Win7 Pro SP1.


I figured out why I didn't see a search form box. It is because of my
minimum font size set to 13 (12 and none worked). I hate tiny font
sizes. :( Are you using the same minimum font size?


My minimum font size is set to 12pt.

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Re: Missing search box in the top right corner on twcondemand.com web site?

[WaltS48]

On 11/29/2014 02:41 AM, Ant wrote:

On 11/28/2014 4:55 PM PT, Paul B. Gallagher typed:


http://www.twcondemand.com/ is missing it. Or is it just me with
v2.26.1 web browser? I see it in my Windows XP Pro SP3's IE8
though.


Are you talking about the Search Box to the right of the
My-On-Demand?? I can see that in my Linux installed SM.


Not here in SM 2.30/Win7 Pro SP1.


I figured out why I didn't see a search form box. It is because of my
minimum font size set to 13 (12 and none worked). I hate tiny font
sizes. :( Are you using the same minimum font size?


Depends on the encoding; for Western I have it at 14 pt. Switching to 12
pt fixed it here, too.


Ah, I tried western and unicode on that web site but none of them showed
the search form box. Back to font size 12 again (trying to get used to it).



Ctrl++ doesn't work in SeaMonkey to zoom the page?

Edit  Preferences  Appearance  Content and a check mark for Zoom 
only text instead of full pages any help?

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Re: Missing search box in the top right corner on twcondemand.com web site?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Ant wrote:

On 11/28/2014 4:55 PM PT, Paul B. Gallagher typed:


http://www.twcondemand.com/ is missing it. Or is it just me with
v2.26.1 web browser? I see it in my Windows XP Pro SP3's IE8
though.


Are you talking about the Search Box to the right of the
My-On-Demand?? I can see that in my Linux installed SM.


Not here in SM 2.30/Win7 Pro SP1.


I figured out why I didn't see a search form box. It is because of my
minimum font size set to 13 (12 and none worked). I hate tiny font
sizes. :( Are you using the same minimum font size?


Depends on the encoding; for Western I have it at 14 pt. Switching to 12
pt fixed it here, too.


Ah, I tried western and unicode on that web site but none of them showed
the search form box. Back to font size 12 again (trying to get used to it).


What I meant was that I have different minimum sizes for different 
encodings. Thus, depending on the encoding, it's true/false that my 
minimum is 12 pt.


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Re: Missing search box in the top right corner on twcondemand.com web site?

[Ant]

On 11/29/2014 4:55 AM PT, WaltS48 typed:


Ctrl++ doesn't work in SeaMonkey to zoom the page?


No, I have that for font only. I don't want to change the images. Only 
texts.




Edit  Preferences  Appearance  Content and a check mark for Zoom
only text instead of full pages any help?


That is what I am using.
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Re: Missing search box in the top right corner on twcondemand.com web site?

[Ant]

On 11/29/2014 7:45 AM PT, Paul B. Gallagher typed:

Depends on the encoding; for Western I have it at 14 pt. Switching to 12
pt fixed it here, too.


Ah, I tried western and unicode on that web site but none of them showed
the search form box. Back to font size 12 again (trying to get used to
it).


What I meant was that I have different minimum sizes for different
encodings. Thus, depending on the encoding, it's true/false that my
minimum is 12 pt.


Interesting and thanks.
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Re: Missing search box in the top right corner on twcondemand.com web site?

[Ant]

On 11/29/2014 4:35 AM PT, Daniel typed:


http://www.twcondemand.com/ is missing it. Or is it just me with
v2.26.1 web browser? I see it in my Windows XP Pro SP3's IE8
though.


Are you talking about the Search Box to the right of the
My-On-Demand?? I can see that in my Linux installed SM.


Not here in SM 2.30/Win7 Pro SP1.


I figured out why I didn't see a search form box. It is because of my
minimum font size set to 13 (12 and none worked). I hate tiny font
sizes. :( Are you using the same minimum font size?


My minimum font size is set to 12pt.


So changing to 13 or higher will show the search form box gone on yours?
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Re: Missing search box in the top right corner on twcondemand.com web site?

[EE]

Ant wrote:

On 11/28/2014 5:58 AM PT, WaltS48 typed:


http://www.twcondemand.com/ is missing it. Or is it just me with
v2.26.1
web browser? I see it in my Windows XP Pro SP3's IE8 though.


Are you talking about the Search Box to the right of the
My-On-Demand?? I can see that in my Linux installed SM.


I can see the search box using SeaMonkey 2.30 on Linux.

So Ant has been here in these newsgroups for awhile. We know as a
veteran he has tried safe mode and a test profile before posting his
problem. Right?

So what could be causing his problem.


FYI. Ah, I figured out why I didn't see a search form box. It is because
of my minimum font size set to 13 (12 and none worked). I hate tiny font
sizes. :(


My minimum font size is 14.  I saw the search box.

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Re: Missing search box in the top right corner on twcondemand.com web site?

[Ant]

On 11/29/2014 11:27 AM PT, EE typed:


http://www.twcondemand.com/ is missing it. Or is it just me with
v2.26.1
web browser? I see it in my Windows XP Pro SP3's IE8 though.


Are you talking about the Search Box to the right of the
My-On-Demand?? I can see that in my Linux installed SM.


I can see the search box using SeaMonkey 2.30 on Linux.

So Ant has been here in these newsgroups for awhile. We know as a
veteran he has tried safe mode and a test profile before posting his
problem. Right?

So what could be causing his problem.


FYI. Ah, I figured out why I didn't see a search form box. It is because
of my minimum font size set to 13 (12 and none worked). I hate tiny font
sizes. :(


My minimum font size is 14.  I saw the search box.


Interesting and you're in Mac OS X 10.6. It must be different on Macs 
compared to Windows for this issue.

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Re: Missing search box in the top right corner on twcondemand.com web site?

[Daniel]

On 28/11/14 18:25, Ant wrote:

http://www.twcondemand.com/ is missing it. Or is it just me with v2.26.1
web browser? I see it in my Windows XP Pro SP3's IE8 though.

Thank you in advance. :)


Are you talking about the Search Box to the right of the 
My-On-Demand?? I can see that in my Linux installed SM.


HTH

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Re: Missing search box in the top right corner on twcondemand.com web site?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Daniel wrote:

On 28/11/14 18:25, Ant wrote:

http://www.twcondemand.com/ is missing it. Or is it just me with
v2.26.1 web browser? I see it in my Windows XP Pro SP3's IE8
though.

Thank you in advance. :)


Are you talking about the Search Box to the right of the
My-On-Demand?? I can see that in my Linux installed SM.


Not here in SM 2.30/Win7 Pro SP1.

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Re: Missing search box in the top right corner on twcondemand.com web site?

[WaltS48]

On 11/28/2014 03:50 AM, Daniel wrote:

On 28/11/14 18:25, Ant wrote:

http://www.twcondemand.com/ is missing it. Or is it just me with v2.26.1
web browser? I see it in my Windows XP Pro SP3's IE8 though.

Thank you in advance. :)


Are you talking about the Search Box to the right of the
My-On-Demand?? I can see that in my Linux installed SM.

HTH



I can see the search box using SeaMonkey 2.30 on Linux.

So Ant has been here in these newsgroups for awhile. We know as a 
veteran he has tried safe mode and a test profile before posting his 
problem. Right?


So what could be causing his problem.
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Re: Missing search box in the top right corner on twcondemand.com web site?

[David E. Ross]

On 11/27/2014 11:25 PM, Ant wrote:
 http://www.twcondemand.com/ is missing it. Or is it just me with v2.26.1 
 web browser? I see it in my Windows XP Pro SP3's IE8 though.
 
 Thank you in advance. :)
 

Windows 7
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.26.1

With some 22 extensions active -- including AdBlock Plus and Secret
Agent -- and with Advertise Firefox compatibility disabled, I see the
search box.

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Re: Missing search box in the top right corner on twcondemand.com web site?

[Lemuel Johnson]

On 11/28/2014 1:25 AM, Ant wrote:

http://www.twcondemand.com/ is missing it. Or is it just me with v2.26.1
web browser? I see it in my Windows XP Pro SP3's IE8 though.

Thank you in advance. :)


WFM: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:33.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/33.0 SeaMonkey/2.30


Windows 7.
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Re: Missing search box in the top right corner on twcondemand.com web site?

[EE]

Ant wrote:

http://www.twcondemand.com/ is missing it. Or is it just me with v2.26.1
web browser? I see it in my Windows XP Pro SP3's IE8 though.

Thank you in advance. :)


I see a search box near the top of the page.

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Re: Missing search box in the top right corner on twcondemand.com web site?

[Ant]

On 11/28/2014 5:44 AM PT, Paul B. Gallagher typed:


http://www.twcondemand.com/ is missing it. Or is it just me with
v2.26.1 web browser? I see it in my Windows XP Pro SP3's IE8
though.


Are you talking about the Search Box to the right of the
My-On-Demand?? I can see that in my Linux installed SM.


Not here in SM 2.30/Win7 Pro SP1.


I figured out why I didn't see a search form box. It is because of my 
minimum font size set to 13 (12 and none worked). I hate tiny font 
sizes. :( Are you using the same minimum font size?

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Re: Missing search box in the top right corner on twcondemand.com web site?

[Ant]

On 11/28/2014 5:58 AM PT, WaltS48 typed:


http://www.twcondemand.com/ is missing it. Or is it just me with v2.26.1
web browser? I see it in my Windows XP Pro SP3's IE8 though.


Are you talking about the Search Box to the right of the
My-On-Demand?? I can see that in my Linux installed SM.


I can see the search box using SeaMonkey 2.30 on Linux.

So Ant has been here in these newsgroups for awhile. We know as a
veteran he has tried safe mode and a test profile before posting his
problem. Right?

So what could be causing his problem.


FYI. Ah, I figured out why I didn't see a search form box. It is because 
of my minimum font size set to 13 (12 and none worked). I hate tiny font 
sizes. :(

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Re: Missing search box in the top right corner on twcondemand.com web site?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Ant wrote:

On 11/28/2014 5:44 AM PT, Paul B. Gallagher typed:


http://www.twcondemand.com/ is missing it. Or is it just me with
v2.26.1 web browser? I see it in my Windows XP Pro SP3's IE8
though.


Are you talking about the Search Box to the right of the
My-On-Demand?? I can see that in my Linux installed SM.


Not here in SM 2.30/Win7 Pro SP1.


I figured out why I didn't see a search form box. It is because of my
minimum font size set to 13 (12 and none worked). I hate tiny font
sizes. :( Are you using the same minimum font size?


Depends on the encoding; for Western I have it at 14 pt. Switching to 12 
pt fixed it here, too.


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Re: Missing search box in the top right corner on twcondemand.com web site?

[David E. Ross]

On 11/28/2014 8:08 AM, David E. Ross wrote:
 On 11/27/2014 11:25 PM, Ant wrote:
 http://www.twcondemand.com/ is missing it. Or is it just me with v2.26.1 
 web browser? I see it in my Windows XP Pro SP3's IE8 though.

 Thank you in advance. :)

 
 Windows 7
 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.26.1
 
 With some 22 extensions active -- including AdBlock Plus and Secret
 Agent -- and with Advertise Firefox compatibility disabled, I see the
 search box.
 

Default font size: 15
Minimum font size: 10

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Re: Missing search box in the top right corner on twcondemand.com web site?

[Ant]

On 11/28/2014 4:55 PM PT, Paul B. Gallagher typed:


http://www.twcondemand.com/ is missing it. Or is it just me with
v2.26.1 web browser? I see it in my Windows XP Pro SP3's IE8
though.


Are you talking about the Search Box to the right of the
My-On-Demand?? I can see that in my Linux installed SM.


Not here in SM 2.30/Win7 Pro SP1.


I figured out why I didn't see a search form box. It is because of my
minimum font size set to 13 (12 and none worked). I hate tiny font
sizes. :( Are you using the same minimum font size?


Depends on the encoding; for Western I have it at 14 pt. Switching to 12
pt fixed it here, too.


Ah, I tried western and unicode on that web site but none of them showed 
the search form box. Back to font size 12 again (trying to get used to it).

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Missing search box in the top right corner on twcondemand.com web site?

[Ant]

http://www.twcondemand.com/ is missing it. Or is it just me with v2.26.1 
web browser? I see it in my Windows XP Pro SP3's IE8 though.


Thank you in advance. :)
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Spell Check Box in 2.22 Too Small

[Cecil Bankston]

The spell checker box (window) in 2.22 cuts off the bottom half of the 
buttons (e.g., Send) at the bottom of the window.  It doesn't appear to 
be possible to enlarge the window manually.

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Re: Spell Check Box in 2.22 Too Small

[Rufus]

Cecil Bankston wrote:

The spell checker box (window) in 2.22 cuts off the bottom half of the
buttons (e.g., Send) at the bottom of the window.  It doesn't appear to
be possible to enlarge the window manually.


Same for the Master Password entry box - this is a carry-over bug that I 
first observed in the Password entry drop down after SM 2.13.2; at the 
time I thought is was Mac-only, but others have since observed the same 
in other varying instances.


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Re: Spell Check Box in 2.22 Too Small

[Cecil Bankston]

Rufus wrote:

Cecil Bankston wrote:

The spell checker box (window) in 2.22 cuts off the bottom half of the
buttons (e.g., Send) at the bottom of the window.  It doesn't appear to
be possible to enlarge the window manually.


Same for the Master Password entry box - this is a carry-over bug that I
first observed in the Password entry drop down after SM 2.13.2; at the
time I thought is was Mac-only, but others have since observed the same
in other varying instances.


I neglected to mention I am using Windows 7 Pro.

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Re: Spell Check Box in 2.22 Too Small

[Rufus]

Cecil Bankston wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Cecil Bankston wrote:

The spell checker box (window) in 2.22 cuts off the bottom half of the
buttons (e.g., Send) at the bottom of the window.  It doesn't appear to
be possible to enlarge the window manually.


Same for the Master Password entry box - this is a carry-over bug that I
first observed in the Password entry drop down after SM 2.13.2; at the
time I thought is was Mac-only, but others have since observed the same
in other varying instances.


I neglected to mention I am using Windows 7 Pro.



Keep looking - other Windows users have recently found more than I did 
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Re: Dropdown does not show entire DD Box

[Hartmut Figge]

NoOp:

When attempting to register at this site:
https://shop.aafes.com/shop/default.asp
Moving the mouse over the 'login' box

Not possible without setting '[x] Advertise Firefox compatibility'.
http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/aa131017.png

Once you check the box the result...

result in only a partial dropdown box - the Registration part is missing.

...depends on your setting of fonts. Try 'Minimum font size None' and
'[X] Allow documents to use other fonts'.

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Re: Dropdown does not show entire DD Box

[Trane Francks]

On 10/17/13 7:34 AM +0900, »Q« wrote:

In news:pnkdnu0nksklkmlpnz2dnuvz_jqdn...@mozilla.org,
Beauregard T. Shagnasty a.nony.mous@example.invalid wrote:


Philip Taylor wrote:

 NoOp wrote:
 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101
 Firefox/24.0 SeaMonkey/2.21

 When attempting to register at this site:
 https://shop.aafes.com/shop/default.asp
 Moving the mouse over the 'login' box result in only a partial
 dropdown box - the Registration part is missing.

 Errors found while checking this document as XHTML 1.0
 Transitional! Result:  648 Errors, 1199 warning(s)

 One might reasonably surmise that the behaviour of the page is not
 exactly predicatable.

I'll agree with that. Here's what I get at that login page, using
Firefox 16.

XML Parsing Error: mismatched tag. Expected: /html.
Location: https://shop.aafes.com/shop/default.asp
Line Number 123, Column 737:

[followed by a long line of code, which seems to deal with Ajax and
CSS]

No content at all shows up. It does work for me with SeaMonkey
2.16.1, including the full dropdown. Also works in Opera. No Windows
here, no Chrome.


There's some very bad browser sniffing going on there.  Using
SeaMonkey 2.21, I get redirected to the *MobileApp* version of the
website, where I then get an XML parsing error.

XML Parsing Error: mismatched tag. Expected: /input.
Location: https://shop.aafes.com/shop/MobileApp/Default.aspx
Line Number 382, Column 15:
 /div
--^






I can't reproduce the issue with SM 2.21 on OS X 10.6.8. Weird. The 
login dropdown looks fine here.


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Dropdown does not show entire DD Box

[NoOp]

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/24.0 SeaMonkey/2.21

When attempting to register at this site:
https://shop.aafes.com/shop/default.asp
Moving the mouse over the 'login' box result in only a partial dropdown
box - the Registration part is missing.

Same results in Firefox 24.

However, the full dropdown does work in Chromium 28 and Opera 12.16.

Screenshots:
SeaMonkey http://s24.postimg.org/3mndfws6d/Screenshotfromseamonkey.png
Firefox http://s22.postimg.org/5m9y7l3nl/Screenshotfromfirefox.png
Chromium http://s11.postimg.org/8zxmifgdf/Screenshotfromchromium.png

Can someone please verify?

Thanks.
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Re: Dropdown does not show entire DD Box

[Philip Taylor]

NoOp wrote:
 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101
 Firefox/24.0 SeaMonkey/2.21
 
 When attempting to register at this site:
 https://shop.aafes.com/shop/default.asp
 Moving the mouse over the 'login' box result in only a partial dropdown
 box - the Registration part is missing.

Errors found while checking this document as XHTML 1.0 Transitional!
Result: 648 Errors, 1199 warning(s)

One might reasonably surmise that the behaviour of the page is not
exactly predicatable.

Philip Taylor
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Re: Dropdown does not show entire DD Box

[NoOp]

On 10/16/2013 02:52 PM, Philip Taylor wrote:
 
 
 NoOp wrote:
 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101
 Firefox/24.0 SeaMonkey/2.21
 
 When attempting to register at this site:
 https://shop.aafes.com/shop/default.asp
 Moving the mouse over the 'login' box result in only a partial dropdown
 box - the Registration part is missing.
 
 Errors found while checking this document as XHTML 1.0 Transitional!
 Result:   648 Errors, 1199 warning(s)
 
 One might reasonably surmise that the behaviour of the page is not
 exactly predicatable.

Sigh... yes the page has errors, but that certainly doesn't stop
Chrome/Chromium and Opera from working properly.

Thanks for checking though. It will be more helpful if you can confirm
that you get the same behavior as stated in my original post, or not.

BTW: I forgot the Opera screenshot. Here is is:
http://s21.postimg.org/khbd0frhz/Screenshotfromopera.png

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Re: Dropdown does not show entire DD Box

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Philip Taylor wrote:

 NoOp wrote:
 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101
 Firefox/24.0 SeaMonkey/2.21
 
 When attempting to register at this site:
 https://shop.aafes.com/shop/default.asp
 Moving the mouse over the 'login' box result in only a partial dropdown
 box - the Registration part is missing.
 
 Errors found while checking this document as XHTML 1.0 Transitional!
 Result:   648 Errors, 1199 warning(s)
 
 One might reasonably surmise that the behaviour of the page is not
 exactly predicatable.

I'll agree with that. Here's what I get at that login page, using Firefox 
16.

XML Parsing Error: mismatched tag. Expected: /html.
Location: https://shop.aafes.com/shop/default.asp
Line Number 123, Column 737:

[followed by a long line of code, which seems to deal with Ajax and CSS]

No content at all shows up. It does work for me with SeaMonkey 2.16.1, 
including the full dropdown. Also works in Opera. No Windows here, no 
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Re: Dropdown does not show entire DD Box

[Philip Taylor]

NoOp wrote:

 Sigh... yes the page has errors, but that certainly doesn't stop
 Chrome/Chromium and Opera from working properly.
 
 Thanks for checking though. It will be more helpful if you can confirm
 that you get the same behavior as stated in my original post, or not.
 
 BTW: I forgot the Opera screenshot. Here is is:
 http://s21.postimg.org/khbd0frhz/Screenshotfromopera.png

For reasons which are not germane to this issue, I am frozen
at 2.17.1, which (when the moon is in the ascendant, and
Jupiter aligns with Mars) displays the full login box (at
least, it does not appear visually truncated to me).

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Re: Dropdown does not show entire DD Box

[»Q«]

In news:pnkdnu0nksklkmlpnz2dnuvz_jqdn...@mozilla.org,
Beauregard T. Shagnasty a.nony.mous@example.invalid wrote:

 Philip Taylor wrote:
 
  NoOp wrote:
  User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101
  Firefox/24.0 SeaMonkey/2.21
  
  When attempting to register at this site:
  https://shop.aafes.com/shop/default.asp
  Moving the mouse over the 'login' box result in only a partial
  dropdown box - the Registration part is missing.
  
  Errors found while checking this document as XHTML 1.0
  Transitional! Result:   648 Errors, 1199 warning(s)
  
  One might reasonably surmise that the behaviour of the page is not
  exactly predicatable.
 
 I'll agree with that. Here's what I get at that login page, using
 Firefox 16.
 
 XML Parsing Error: mismatched tag. Expected: /html.
 Location: https://shop.aafes.com/shop/default.asp
 Line Number 123, Column 737:
 
 [followed by a long line of code, which seems to deal with Ajax and
 CSS]
 
 No content at all shows up. It does work for me with SeaMonkey
 2.16.1, including the full dropdown. Also works in Opera. No Windows
 here, no Chrome.

There's some very bad browser sniffing going on there.  Using
SeaMonkey 2.21, I get redirected to the *MobileApp* version of the
website, where I then get an XML parsing error.

XML Parsing Error: mismatched tag. Expected: /input. 
Location: https://shop.aafes.com/shop/MobileApp/Default.aspx 
Line Number 382, Column 15: 
/div
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Re: Dropdown does not show entire DD Box

[WaltS]

On 10/16/2013 05:36 PM, NoOp wrote:

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/24.0 SeaMonkey/2.21

When attempting to register at this site:
https://shop.aafes.com/shop/default.asp
Moving the mouse over the 'login' box result in only a partial dropdown
box - the Registration part is missing.

Same results in Firefox 24.

However, the full dropdown does work in Chromium 28 and Opera 12.16.

Screenshots:
SeaMonkey http://s24.postimg.org/3mndfws6d/Screenshotfromseamonkey.png
Firefox http://s22.postimg.org/5m9y7l3nl/Screenshotfromfirefox.png
Chromium http://s11.postimg.org/8zxmifgdf/Screenshotfromchromium.png

Can someone please verify?

Thanks.




Can not verify.

The registration part shows just fine using SeaMonkey 2.21 and Firefox 
24.0 for me.


User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/24.0 SeaMonkey/2.21

Build identifier: 2013091600

User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/24.0 BuildID: 20130910160258


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Re: Dropdown does not show entire DD Box

[NoOp]

On 10/16/2013 03:05 PM, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 Philip Taylor wrote:
 
 NoOp wrote:
 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101
 Firefox/24.0 SeaMonkey/2.21
 
 When attempting to register at this site:
 https://shop.aafes.com/shop/default.asp
 Moving the mouse over the 'login' box result in only a partial dropdown
 box - the Registration part is missing.
 
 Errors found while checking this document as XHTML 1.0 Transitional!
 Result:  648 Errors, 1199 warning(s)
 
 One might reasonably surmise that the behaviour of the page is not
 exactly predicatable.
 
 I'll agree with that. Here's what I get at that login page, using Firefox 
 16.
 
 XML Parsing Error: mismatched tag. Expected: /html.
 Location: https://shop.aafes.com/shop/default.asp
 Line Number 123, Column 737:
 
 [followed by a long line of code, which seems to deal with Ajax and CSS]
 
 No content at all shows up. It does work for me with SeaMonkey 2.16.1, 
 including the full dropdown. Also works in Opera. No Windows here, no 
 Chrome.
 

Thanks. I brought up a clean test profile with no addons  still get the
same in SeaMonkey 2.21 (linux).

So I then brought up a VM and loaded Windows XP. I can now see the full
dropdown in the Windows versions of:

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/24.0 SeaMonkey/2.21
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/24.0

So I'll need to dig a little deeper to find out why it works in the
Windows versions, but not in my linux version.


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Re: Dropdown does not show entire DD Box

[David E. Ross]

On 10/16/2013 3:02 PM, NoOp wrote:
 On 10/16/2013 02:52 PM, Philip Taylor wrote:


 NoOp wrote:
 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101
 Firefox/24.0 SeaMonkey/2.21

 When attempting to register at this site:
 https://shop.aafes.com/shop/default.asp
 Moving the mouse over the 'login' box result in only a partial dropdown
 box - the Registration part is missing.

 Errors found while checking this document as XHTML 1.0 Transitional!
 Result:  648 Errors, 1199 warning(s)

 One might reasonably surmise that the behaviour of the page is not
 exactly predicatable.
 
 Sigh... yes the page has errors, but that certainly doesn't stop
 Chrome/Chromium and Opera from working properly.
 
 Thanks for checking though. It will be more helpful if you can confirm
 that you get the same behavior as stated in my original post, or not.
 
 BTW: I forgot the Opera screenshot. Here is is:
 http://s21.postimg.org/khbd0frhz/Screenshotfromopera.png
 

With Advertise Firefox compatibility disabled, I get a page with
 XML Parsing Error: mismatched tag. Expected: /input. Location:
 https://shop.aafes.com/shop/MobileApp/Default.aspx Line Number 382,
 Column 15: /div --^
This indicates faulty UA string sniffing.

The 648 XHTML errors -- including errors that prevent use of the W3C CSS
validator -- are likely significant.  With Advertise Firefox
compatibility enabled, however, I did get the complete pull-down,
including a link to register.

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Re: Dropdown does not show entire DD Box

[NoOp]

On 10/16/2013 03:35 PM, WaltS wrote:
 On 10/16/2013 05:36 PM, NoOp wrote:
 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101
 Firefox/24.0 SeaMonkey/2.21

 When attempting to register at this site:
 https://shop.aafes.com/shop/default.asp
 Moving the mouse over the 'login' box result in only a partial dropdown
 box - the Registration part is missing.

 Same results in Firefox 24.

 However, the full dropdown does work in Chromium 28 and Opera 12.16.

 Screenshots:
 SeaMonkey http://s24.postimg.org/3mndfws6d/Screenshotfromseamonkey.png
 Firefox http://s22.postimg.org/5m9y7l3nl/Screenshotfromfirefox.png
 Chromium http://s11.postimg.org/8zxmifgdf/Screenshotfromchromium.png

 Can someone please verify?

 Thanks.

 
 
 Can not verify.
 
 The registration part shows just fine using SeaMonkey 2.21 and Firefox 
 24.0 for me.
 
 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 
 Firefox/24.0 SeaMonkey/2.21
 Build identifier: 2013091600

Interesting. I'm using a different build:

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/24.0 SeaMonkey/2.21
Build identifier: 20130916113438

$ md5sum seamonkey-2.21.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2
fad9a9b476688d9bbde2ef5fe0aba7b5  seamonkey-2.21.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2
Built from http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-release/rev/79c8eca7bdd1

So I wonder if that might have something to do with it.

I even loaded up the current 32bit version  tried that with the same
results (Registration cut off). On both I started with a new clean profile.

 
 User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 
 Firefox/24.0 BuildID: 20130910160258
 

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/24.0
Built from http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-release/rev/7c3b0732e765
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Re: Dropdown does not show entire DD Box

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

NoOp wrote:

 So I'll need to dig a little deeper to find out why it works in the
 Windows versions, but not in my linux version.

No need really. »Q« already gave you the reason. There's some very bad 
browser sniffing going on there.

If anything, you should tell that company they have an incompetent 
webmaster. Send them all your screenshots.

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Re: Dropdown does not show entire DD Box

[WaltS]

On 10/16/2013 07:50 PM, NoOp wrote:

On 10/16/2013 03:35 PM, WaltS wrote:

On 10/16/2013 05:36 PM, NoOp wrote:

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/24.0 SeaMonkey/2.21

When attempting to register at this site:
https://shop.aafes.com/shop/default.asp
Moving the mouse over the 'login' box result in only a partial dropdown
box - the Registration part is missing.

Same results in Firefox 24.

However, the full dropdown does work in Chromium 28 and Opera 12.16.

Screenshots:
SeaMonkey http://s24.postimg.org/3mndfws6d/Screenshotfromseamonkey.png
Firefox http://s22.postimg.org/5m9y7l3nl/Screenshotfromfirefox.png
Chromium http://s11.postimg.org/8zxmifgdf/Screenshotfromchromium.png

Can someone please verify?

Thanks.




Can not verify.

The registration part shows just fine using SeaMonkey 2.21 and Firefox
24.0 for me.

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/24.0 SeaMonkey/2.21
Build identifier: 2013091600


Interesting. I'm using a different build:

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/24.0 SeaMonkey/2.21
Build identifier: 20130916113438

$ md5sum seamonkey-2.21.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2
fad9a9b476688d9bbde2ef5fe0aba7b5  seamonkey-2.21.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2
Built from http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-release/rev/79c8eca7bdd1

So I wonder if that might have something to do with it.



I am using the openSUSE 12.3 distributions build of SeaMonkey.




I even loaded up the current 32bit version  tried that with the same
results (Registration cut off). On both I started with a new clean profile.



User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/24.0 BuildID: 20130910160258



Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/24.0
Built from http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-release/rev/7c3b0732e765




I have the same Firefox build as you.

Built from http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-release/rev/7c3b0732e765

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Re: Dropdown does not show entire DD Box

[NoOp]

On 10/16/2013 04:57 PM, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
 
 So I'll need to dig a little deeper to find out why it works in the
 Windows versions, but not in my linux version.
 
 No need really. »Q« already gave you the reason. There's some very bad 
 browser sniffing going on there.

I suppose. Generally »Q« is pretty spot on, but I can't trigger the
redirect to the mobile
https://shop.aafes.com/shop/MobileApp/Default.aspx link.

I can however, get consistent working results using Windows SeaMonkey
and Firefox, and linux Opera and Chromium. But I cannot with linux
SeaMonkey versions - regardless of the version tested. I've even loaded
up your 2.16.1 version (32 and 64 bit) - same results:

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:19.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/19.0 SeaMonkey/2.16.1
Build identifier: 20130308095456

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:19.0)
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/19.0 SeaMonkey/2.16.1
Build identifier: 20130308095556

Were it Windows only sniffing, then there must be something beyond the
UA string as I've spoofed with:

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/24.0 SeaMonkey/2.21

and still no go.

 
 If anything, you should tell that company they have an incompetent 
 webmaster. Send them all your screenshots.
 

I'll certainly do that... with a little more tact.

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