Seamonkey Certificate Issues

[Rob Steinmetz]

Recently several people in my office using Seamonkey have begun getting 
Untrusted Connections errors using Seamonkey. SItes affected include 
Google, Chase and other major websites. The errors do not occur using 
other browsers including Chrome, Chromium, Firefox, Edge and Brave. 
Installing or upgrading Seamonkey again seems to clear the problem.

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Seamonkey Certificate Issues

[Rob Steinmetz]

Recently several people in my office using Seamonkey have begun getting 
Untrusted Connections errors using Seamonkey. SItes affected include 
Google, Chase and other major websites. The errors do not occur using 
other browsers including Chrome, Chromium, Firefox, Edge and Brave. 
Installing or upgrading Seamonkey again seems to clear the problem.

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Re: Reddit Issues W10 Pro SM 2.53.2

[Ant]

On 6/11/2020 11:33 PM, jcteyssier wrote:

Ant a écrit :

On 6/11/2020 11:31 AM, boNO1953 wrote:

Hello all,

My challenge is when logging onto Reddit, I find that the website is 
not fully rendering in terms of my not being able to see all posts 
and limited scrolling.


I Am not able to click on many of the posts to read as well, mail or 
messages to me directly are not being noted.


Any suggestions or ideas as to what the challenge might be?

TIA - bo1953


How about using Reddit's old web site design (http://old.reddit.com) 
which is much faster and have less issues?
I agree with Ant: i ONLY use old.reddit. The new one is too 
slowww and increase significantly memory usage.


Let's hope Reddit never remove it! I doubt they will keep it forever. :(
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Re: Reddit Issues W10 Pro SM 2.53.2

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Ant a écrit :

On 6/11/2020 11:31 AM, boNO1953 wrote:

Hello all,

My challenge is when logging onto Reddit, I find that the website is 
not fully rendering in terms of my not being able to see all posts and 
limited scrolling.


I Am not able to click on many of the posts to read as well, mail or 
messages to me directly are not being noted.


Any suggestions or ideas as to what the challenge might be?

TIA - bo1953


How about using Reddit's old web site design (http://old.reddit.com) 
which is much faster and have less issues?
I agree with Ant: i ONLY use old.reddit. The new one is too 
slowww and increase significantly memory usage.

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Re: Reddit Issues W10 Pro SM 2.53.2

[Ant]

On 6/11/2020 11:31 AM, boNO1953 wrote:

Hello all,

My challenge is when logging onto Reddit, I find that the website is not 
fully rendering in terms of my not being able to see all posts and 
limited scrolling.


I Am not able to click on many of the posts to read as well, mail or 
messages to me directly are not being noted.


Any suggestions or ideas as to what the challenge might be?

TIA - bo1953


How about using Reddit's old web site design (http://old.reddit.com) 
which is much faster and have less issues?

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Re: Reddit Issues W10 Pro SM 2.53.2

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

boNO1953 wrote:

Hello all,

My challenge is when logging onto Reddit, I find that the website is not fully 
rendering in terms of my not being able to see all posts and limited scrolling.


I Am not able to click on many of the posts to read as well, mail or messages 
to me directly are not being noted.


Any suggestions or ideas as to what the challenge might be?

TIA - bo1953


Fixed in 2.53.3b1 and up.

It is being uploaded right now. If you need it urgently should work but I 
didn't verify the packages:


https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/tmp/releases/2.53.3b1/

Do a profile backup but my upgrades from 2.53.2 went smooth. ewong said he 
need to redo it so either works or not. Remove or disable SeaMonkey 2.53.2 
languaage packs before installing.


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Reddit Issues W10 Pro SM 2.53.2

[boNO1953]

Hello all,

My challenge is when logging onto Reddit, I find that the website is not 
fully rendering in terms of my not being able to see all posts and 
limited scrolling.


I Am not able to click on many of the posts to read as well, mail or 
messages to me directly are not being noted.


Any suggestions or ideas as to what the challenge might be?

TIA - bo1953
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Re: I am having a lot of issues lately

[Cheryl]

It said I already had that file but I reinstalled it maybe and it is now 
working at least on my loan acct.:-)


WaltS48 wrote:

Cheryl wrote:
For instance I can't sign into my loan account, I have to use Chrome 
:(, or I can't click an email link for the New York Times.
I downloaded the beta version, of 2.53.1.  Was there no official 
build on that yet?


The official build is at 
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Re: I am having a lot of issues lately

[WaltS48]

Cheryl wrote:
For instance I can't sign into my loan account, I have to use Chrome :(, 
or I can't click an email link for the New York Times.
I downloaded the beta version, of 2.53.1.  Was there no official build 
on that yet?


The official build is at 
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I am having a lot of issues lately

[Cheryl]

For instance I can't sign into my loan account, I have to use Chrome :(, 
or I can't click an email link for the New York Times.
I downloaded the beta version, of 2.53.1.  Was there no official build 
on that yet?

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Re: SeaMonkey Issues with some Websites

[Rainer Bielefeld]

On 08.01.2020 13:53, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Now and then small regressions or a broken build creeps in


Yes, that can happen.

So I (Windows user) first try the installer of a particular new 2.53 daily. Of 
course before testing I backup my User Profile (simple .zip) and do first steps 
with a test profile, not with my user profile.


If everything works fine for me after 2 ... 3 days of testing with my normal 
User Profile, I install form downloaded installer.exe


Tests of further 2.53 dailies with downloaded .ZIPs.

CU

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Re: SeaMonkey Issues with some Websites

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

On 07.01.2020 23:08, Ant wrote:
Is v2.53.1 stable enough for production usage so I can stop using Firefox 
and others?



Yes!

 



CU

Rainer


In the tradition of "eat your own dogfood" I am using it since 2018. 2.49.5 
only for tests if needed. Just make a complete profile backup and delete a 
master password before updating. See the upcoming release notes in 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1602735


If you use Bills builds: Now and then small regressions or a broken build 
creeps in. Usually fixed fast/next day but please keep the last stable one.


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Re: SeaMonkey Issues with some Websites

[Rainer Bielefeld]

On 07.01.2020 23:08, Ant wrote:
Is v2.53.1 stable enough for production usage so I can stop using Firefox and 
others?



Yes!



CU

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Re: SeaMonkey Issues with some Websites

[Rubens via support-seamonkey]

NFN Smith wrote on 08/01/2020 01:43:

Ant wrote:
SeaMonkey v2.49.5 uses a very old Gecko web engine based on Firefox v52.   Lots of web sites don't support that old. 


At least they claim not to support that old.

I've found that with spoofing, that if I give a site a UA string showing Gecko 
60 or 68 from Seamonkey 2.49.5, I generally don't have problems. If I have 
problems, it's far more likely to be other tweaking that I've done, such 
blocking stuff with NoScript and/or uBlock Origin, blocking tracking, refusing 
third-party cookies, etc.

I'm sure that there's sites out there that really require something newer than 
Gecko 52, but I think that they're very few, and I can't remember seeing them.

Where I've seen sites complaining about Seamonkey 2.49.5/Gecko 52 is usually 
coming from scripting that's doing UA sniffing.  With NoScript active, I rarely 
see any of that, because the scripts never run (and can't check).  There are a 
handful of sites that won't give me what I want without enabling the scripting 
that does sniffing, and for that, spoofing generally does what I need.

For sites, the issue is generally not that they *can't* handle Gecko 52, so much as it is that they want users running newer browsers, because older ones do have known security holes in them.  Unfortunately, the number of Seamonkey users is small enough that at sites doing checking, the owners don't know (or don't care) that Seamonkey is actively being maintained, despite showing Gecko 52.  I've noted before that I see that happening most often with sites for financial providers.  For good measure, the 
people providing help at various sites are likely to demand specific browsers (and versions), because it streamlines the support process (again, financial providers are the most aggressive).  For Seamonkey, they don't care that it's a functional equivalent, just that the different UI layout is enough that they don't want to be bothered with trying to figure out where a particular setting is.


All that said, I do know that if I'm spoofing, it's definitely possible that 
the site really does require something specific to Gecko 60, but that's on me, 
and I'm not going to go to the site's support and complain that things aren't 
working because of how I'm using Seamonkey.  If I'm having problems, I can 
either go to a profile where the only tweak I make is for spoofing, or I can 
launch Firefox from a profile that doesn't have a lot of tweaking.

Smith


Thank you for taking the time to write such a detailed answer, very useful and 
much appreciated.

BR,

R. Furb

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Re: SeaMonkey Issues with some Websites

[Ant]

On 1/7/2020 11:10 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Ant wrote:
We'll have to wait for the next major versions of SeaMonkey with the 
newer engine versions and that will take a very long time to finish 
(you can use its prereleases, but they're buggy). 


Nothing personal but don't spread misinformation. 2.53.x is not buggy. 
2.57 is. 2.53.1 is due out soon. First beta done and in release.


Is v2.53.1 stable enough for production usage so I can stop using 
Firefox and others?

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Re: SeaMonkey Issues with some Websites

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Ant wrote:
We'll have to wait for the next major 
versions of SeaMonkey with the newer engine versions and that will take a very 
long time to finish (you can use its prereleases, but they're buggy). 


Nothing personal but don't spread misinformation. 2.53.x is not buggy. 2.57 
is. 2.53.1 is due out soon. First beta done and in release.


I also 
had to use other web browsers like Firefox v71 (now 72 from its today's 
release). :(




Currently most issues are because of bad user agent sniffing or deliberate 
shutting out of non major browsers. Even SeaMonkey 9.99 won't help here. 
This may change in the future but isn't the case today.



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Re: SeaMonkey Issues with some Websites

[Ant]

SeaMonkey v2.49.5 uses a very old Gecko web engine based on Firefox v52. 
 Lots of web sites don't support that old. We'll have to wait for the 
next major versions of SeaMonkey with the newer engine versions and that 
will take a very long time to finish (you can use its prereleases, but 
they're buggy). I also had to use other web browsers like Firefox v71 
(now 72 from its today's release). :(



On 1/7/2020 7:50 AM, Rob Steinmetz wrote:
I have upgraded several computers to SeaMonkey 2.49.5 x64. I've noticed 
that I am having issues with some websites using SeaMonkey. that I don't 
have with other browsers.


I use several different computers in different locations with Windows 7 
Pro. I have not changed the User Agent, although User Agent Switcher is 
install on some computers but not all.


On the American Express site when I try to download an archived 
statement it does not appear to accept the selection.


On Southwest.com I get a popup "Feedback" window all of the time for no 
apparent reason.


Has any one else seen this kind of behavior?




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SeaMonkey Issues with some Websites

[Rob Steinmetz]

I have upgraded several computers to SeaMonkey 2.49.5 x64. I've noticed 
that I am having issues with some websites using SeaMonkey. that I don't 
have with other browsers.


I use several different computers in different locations with Windows 7 
Pro. I have not changed the User Agent, although User Agent Switcher is 
install on some computers but not all.


On the American Express site when I try to download an archived 
statement it does not appear to accept the selection.


On Southwest.com I get a popup "Feedback" window all of the time for no 
apparent reason.


Has any one else seen this kind of behavior?

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Re: Email issues

[Ray Davison]

Ray Davison wrote:

SM mail.  Have not made any changes to in-out settings for several years.

I have several Charter mail accounts.  This all started a couple days 
when Charter stopped accepting outgoing mail from any of my accounts. 
This occurred on both my wife's machine and mine.


"An error occurred while sending mail. The mail server responded:  5.1.0 
 sender rejected.  Please verify that your email 
address is correct in your Mail preferences and try again."


I just Binged "5.1.0 preventing sending email"  Very popular subject.  I 
have not read any of the links yet.


Ray

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Re: Email issues

[Don Spam's Reckless Son]

Ray Davison wrote:

SM mail.  Have not made any changes to in-out settings for several years.

I have several Charter mail accounts.  This all started a couple days 
when Charter stopped accepting outgoing mail from any of my accounts. 
This occurred on both my wife's machine and mine.


"An error occurred while sending mail. The mail server responded:  5.1.0 
 sender rejected.  Please verify that your email 
address is correct in your Mail preferences and try again."


I take from the message that the mail is getting out of the building but 
the Charter sever does not know who we are.  I can send at my account on 
the Charter WEB site.


Below are the current/long time in/out settings and current suggested by 
Charter.


mail.charter.net 110
smtp.charter.net 587

Suggested:
imap.mobile.charter.net 993
mobile.charter.net 587

pop.gmail.com 995
smtp.gmail.com 465

pop.mail.yahoo.com 995
smtp.mail.yahoo.com 465
also pop.att.yahoo.com 995
also smtp.att.yahoo.com 465

Gmail works OK in and out.  It uses the gmail outgoing server.

Trying to send from yahoo uses whatever sever is listed as default.  But 
password fails. "Login to server smtp.att.yahoo.com failed."  "Enter new 
password"


Sending from gmail to yahoo gets to yahoo on-line account.

Trying to DL from yahoo gets:

"Sending of password for user raydav94 did not succeed. Mail server 
pop.mail.yahoo.com responded: Server error - Please try again later."



Anyone have any help for yahoo?

I charter tech and his supervisor said we ran a test, found no trouble, 
therefore you need to talk to Mozilla to fix their sync.  They changed 
my password so as to access my account to conduct the test.  They left 
their password in and did not tell me what it was.


A call to another tech fixed my password and had the opinion that the 
issue was the charter server, but being on the front lines had no access 
to that part of the system but would try to contact some one.


Any suggestions?

TY
Ray



You are sure that this has nothing to do with the merger/rebranding 
with/as spectrum.com ?  I tend to think Paul Gallagher is correct, and 
that the reason for this change is the merger/whatever.
Have a look at 
https://www.spectrum.net/support/internet/email-troubleshooting?redirected=true 
(not sure about that "redirected" part)


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Re: Email issues

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Ray Davison wrote:


SM mail.  Have not made any changes to in-out settings for several years.

I have several Charter mail accounts.  This all started a couple days 
when Charter stopped accepting outgoing mail from any of my accounts. 
This occurred on both my wife's machine and mine.


"An error occurred while sending mail. The mail server responded:  5.1.0 
 sender rejected.  Please verify that your email 
address is correct in your Mail preferences and try again."


I take from the message that the mail is getting out of the building but 
the Charter sever does not know who we are.  I can send at my account on 
the Charter WEB site.


I have a suspicion, but you'll have to test to see if it's valid.

I understand that you have several Charter mail accounts, let's call 
them raydav@c***er.net, rayswife@c***er.net, and rayskid@c***er.net just 
for the sake of discussion. You have them all set to use the same SMTP 
server, smtp.charter.net, which authenticates with the user account 
raydav@c***er.net. My suspicion is that Charter changed their server 
settings to require the full email address and not just the prefix when 
authenticating outgoing mail.


If you check the settings for their SMTP server under "Mail & Newsgroups 
Account Settings," you might find that you've been using the prefix only 
(raydav), which used to work, and not the full email address 
(raydav@c***er.net) which they just started requiring. That would cause 
everyone who tries to authenticate as "raydav" to be blocked. So I would 
suggest as a first attempt that you enter the full address in your SMTP 
server settings and see if that works.


A second possibility is that they now want raydav@c***er.net to 
authenticate as raydav@c***er.net, rayswife@c***er.net to authenticate 
as rayswife@c***er.net, and rayskid@c***er.net to authenticate as 
rayskid@c***er.net. In that case, you'd have to set up three separate 
SMTP servers in SeaMonkey, one for each user. But I rather doubt this 
because then only the others should be blocked and you should still be 
able to send.


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Re: Email issues

[David E. Ross]

On 12/7/2019 11:45 AM, Ray Davison wrote:
> SM mail.  Have not made any changes to in-out settings for several years.
> 
> I have several Charter mail accounts.  This all started a couple days 
> when Charter stopped accepting outgoing mail from any of my accounts. 
> This occurred on both my wife's machine and mine.
> 
> "An error occurred while sending mail. The mail server responded:  5.1.0 
>  sender rejected.  Please verify that your email 
> address is correct in your Mail preferences and try again."
> 
> I take from the message that the mail is getting out of the building but 
> the Charter sever does not know who we are.  I can send at my account on 
> the Charter WEB site.
> 
> Below are the current/long time in/out settings and current suggested by 
> Charter.
> 
> mail.charter.net 110
> smtp.charter.net 587
> 
> Suggested:
> imap.mobile.charter.net 993
> mobile.charter.net 587
> 
> pop.gmail.com 995
> smtp.gmail.com 465
> 
> pop.mail.yahoo.com 995
> smtp.mail.yahoo.com 465
> also pop.att.yahoo.com 995
> also smtp.att.yahoo.com 465
> 
> Gmail works OK in and out.  It uses the gmail outgoing server.
> 
> Trying to send from yahoo uses whatever sever is listed as default.  But 
> password fails. "Login to server smtp.att.yahoo.com failed."  "Enter new 
> password"
> 
> Sending from gmail to yahoo gets to yahoo on-line account.
> 
> Trying to DL from yahoo gets:
> 
> "Sending of password for user raydav94 did not succeed. Mail server 
> pop.mail.yahoo.com responded: Server error - Please try again later."
> 
> 
> Anyone have any help for yahoo?
> 
> I charter tech and his supervisor said we ran a test, found no trouble, 
> therefore you need to talk to Mozilla to fix their sync.  They changed 
> my password so as to access my account to conduct the test.  They left 
> their password in and did not tell me what it was.
> 
> A call to another tech fixed my password and had the opinion that the 
> issue was the charter server, but being on the front lines had no access 
> to that part of the system but would try to contact some one.
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
> TY
> Ray
> 

Before sending, take a close look at your From E-mail address and also
which account is selected.  I encounter your problem with Thunderbird if
I try to send E-mail with a From address for one account while another
account is selected.

For example, I see a newsgroup message that I want to send to (not reply
to) my daughter.  I select my prinary E-mail account and start composing
a message to her.  I then go back to the newsgroup account to copy the
newsgroup message, which I paste into the E-mail message.  Then I select
Send.  Boom! It is rejected because I am in a newsgroup account and not
in an E-mail account.

I think I have also encountered the opposite, trying to copy an E-mail
message into a newsgroup reply.  I select Send while still in the E-mail
account when I should be in the newsgroup account.

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Re: Email issues

[Paul Bergsagel]

Hi Ray,

All I can think of is to create a new user profile with a new email 
account and if this works you will know something has changed (or is 
corrupted) in your old user profile.


You might download the Thunderbird email program and set up a new email 
account as Thunderbird and SeaMonkey share the same email code.  I hope 
you can locate the source of the problem.


Ray Davison wrote:

SM mail.  Have not made any changes to in-out settings for several years.

I have several Charter mail accounts.  This all started a couple days 
when Charter stopped accepting outgoing mail from any of my accounts. 
This occurred on both my wife's machine and mine.


"An error occurred while sending mail. The mail server responded:  5.1.0 
 sender rejected.  Please verify that your email 
address is correct in your Mail preferences and try again."


I take from the message that the mail is getting out of the building but 
the Charter sever does not know who we are.  I can send at my account on 
the Charter WEB site.


Below are the current/long time in/out settings and current suggested by 
Charter.


mail.charter.net 110
smtp.charter.net 587

Suggested:
imap.mobile.charter.net 993
mobile.charter.net 587

pop.gmail.com 995
smtp.gmail.com 465

pop.mail.yahoo.com 995
smtp.mail.yahoo.com 465
also pop.att.yahoo.com 995
also smtp.att.yahoo.com 465

Gmail works OK in and out.  It uses the gmail outgoing server.

Trying to send from yahoo uses whatever sever is listed as default.  But 
password fails. "Login to server smtp.att.yahoo.com failed."  "Enter new 
password"


Sending from gmail to yahoo gets to yahoo on-line account.

Trying to DL from yahoo gets:

"Sending of password for user raydav94 did not succeed. Mail server 
pop.mail.yahoo.com responded: Server error - Please try again later."



Anyone have any help for yahoo?

I charter tech and his supervisor said we ran a test, found no trouble, 
therefore you need to talk to Mozilla to fix their sync.  They changed 
my password so as to access my account to conduct the test.  They left 
their password in and did not tell me what it was.


A call to another tech fixed my password and had the opinion that the 
issue was the charter server, but being on the front lines had no access 
to that part of the system but would try to contact some one.


Any suggestions?

TY
Ray



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Email issues

[Ray Davison]

SM mail.  Have not made any changes to in-out settings for several years.

I have several Charter mail accounts.  This all started a couple days 
when Charter stopped accepting outgoing mail from any of my accounts. 
This occurred on both my wife's machine and mine.


"An error occurred while sending mail. The mail server responded:  5.1.0 
 sender rejected.  Please verify that your email 
address is correct in your Mail preferences and try again."


I take from the message that the mail is getting out of the building but 
the Charter sever does not know who we are.  I can send at my account on 
the Charter WEB site.


Below are the current/long time in/out settings and current suggested by 
Charter.


mail.charter.net 110
smtp.charter.net 587

Suggested:
imap.mobile.charter.net 993
mobile.charter.net 587

pop.gmail.com 995
smtp.gmail.com 465

pop.mail.yahoo.com 995
smtp.mail.yahoo.com 465
also pop.att.yahoo.com 995
also smtp.att.yahoo.com 465

Gmail works OK in and out.  It uses the gmail outgoing server.

Trying to send from yahoo uses whatever sever is listed as default.  But 
password fails. "Login to server smtp.att.yahoo.com failed."  "Enter new 
password"


Sending from gmail to yahoo gets to yahoo on-line account.

Trying to DL from yahoo gets:

"Sending of password for user raydav94 did not succeed. Mail server 
pop.mail.yahoo.com responded: Server error - Please try again later."



Anyone have any help for yahoo?

I charter tech and his supervisor said we ran a test, found no trouble, 
therefore you need to talk to Mozilla to fix their sync.  They changed 
my password so as to access my account to conduct the test.  They left 
their password in and did not tell me what it was.


A call to another tech fixed my password and had the opinion that the 
issue was the charter server, but being on the front lines had no access 
to that part of the system but would try to contact some one.


Any suggestions?

TY
Ray

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Re: Weird Scrollbar Issues

[Richard Owlett]

On 08/16/2018 06:36 AM, wes Frazier wrote:

I am having odd issues with vertical scrollbars with Seamonkey 2.49.4 on
FreeBSD 11.2. Which may or may not be interrelated.

By default the FreeBSD build uses GTK3 (3.22.29). However the default
Seamonkey theme has a scrollbar that is double or triple it's intended
width, when displayed by Seamonkey with GTK3 selected at build time.
Other themes i've tried do not have this issue.

When I build Seamonkey with GTK2 (2.24.32). The default them has no
arrows at the tob or bottom of the scrollbar, as it does in GTK3 (though
it is the correct width.) Reproducible with multiple dual GTK2/GTK3
themes in XFCE. (Arc, Adapta, Adwaita).

Seamonkey is quite pleasing to the eye with the Gnomerunner theme.
However the scrollbar vanishes entirely for me with this theme on some
webpages. (Most readily reproducible with www.drivethrurpg.com ).

Any advice or suggestions?

- Wes


I don't have any suggestions. However I can give you one data point on 
what works.


My system is a laptop running the i386 flavor of Debian 9 with MATE 
desktop. SeaMonkey reports:

   User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
   Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1
I was downloaded from https://www.seamonkey-project.org/

When I _initially_ loaded the site I got a well formed page asking to 
enable cookies. As I routinely do random browsing with JavaScript 
disabled I went to edit my preferences to enable JavaScript to see if 
that could cause the problem. Found that JavaScript was enabled - couple 
hours ago I had gone to a NOAA site that can not display tabular data 
without it. I disabled it. The only apparent problem was the inability 
to load some graphics.


I exited SeaMonkey completely. I restarted SM and went to the site (JS 
and cookies disabled) it displayed main page (*NO* cookie request).


I powered down both my computer and my T-mobile hotspot - intention to 
force a different URL. With both JS and cookies disabled I got to the 
homepage with *NO* request to enable cookies. Does not sound kosher.


That did not sound good :<

Went to 
[https://validator.w3.org/check?uri=www.drivethrurpg.com%2F=%28detect+automatically%29=Inline=0] 
see if there were site problems.


The response was:

Errors found while checking this document as HTML 4.01 Transitional!
Result: 235 Errors, 168 warning(s)


I wouldn't report any problems on your end with THAT site.

I would suggest visiting https://validator.w3.org/ for any other site 
with which you have problems ;/


That site is malformed and TRACKING you by means other than cookies!

YMMV ;/
HTH  :)



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[wes Frazier]

I am having odd issues with vertical scrollbars with Seamonkey 2.49.4 on
FreeBSD 11.2. Which may or may not be interrelated.

By default the FreeBSD build uses GTK3 (3.22.29). However the default
Seamonkey theme has a scrollbar that is double or triple it's intended
width, when displayed by Seamonkey with GTK3 selected at build time.
Other themes i've tried do not have this issue.

When I build Seamonkey with GTK2 (2.24.32). The default them has no
arrows at the tob or bottom of the scrollbar, as it does in GTK3 (though
it is the correct width.) Reproducible with multiple dual GTK2/GTK3
themes in XFCE. (Arc, Adapta, Adwaita).

Seamonkey is quite pleasing to the eye with the Gnomerunner theme.
However the scrollbar vanishes entirely for me with this theme on some
webpages. (Most readily reproducible with www.drivethrurpg.com ).

Any advice or suggestions?

- Wes

P.S. I apologize if this is a duplicate. I sent this same message a
couple of days ago, and while I received no bounceback message; it never
seemed to be distributed by the list and never appeared in the archives.
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Re: ebay Listing Issues - SM 2.493 W10 Pro 32b

[Daniel]

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote on 28/06/2018 5:17 AM:

Daniel wrote:





This adds the FF version to the User Agent String so that yours now
 shows as 

User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0)
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.3

I believe some sites just want the "Firefox/52.0" bit (i.e. no
mention what-so-ever of SM), or want the FF version to be that last
bit of the UA String. And some sites are rejecting the
"Firefox/52.0" bit in any case, because FF 52 is getting old. I
think SM 2.49.3 is based, sort of, on FF 54 or 55.


I think Firefox 52 is correct for SeaMonkey 2.49.x


Yes, but I think the 'x' part makes SM equivalent to later FF versions, 
e.g. back in simpler days, SM 2.45 (say) was equivalent to FF (2 + 45 + 
1) = FF 48, SM 2.49 was equivalent to FF (2 + 49 + 1) = FF 52, so, *I'm 
guessing* SM 2.49.3 might be equivalent to FF (2 + 49 + 3 + 1) = FF 55 
or so!!



I know that it is possible to add a line to your Prefs so that you
can have a UA which is only sent to, in your case, ebay.com, but I
don't know how to do that or what its content should be, maybe same
as your current UA but make it, say, "Firefox/60" or something.


The preference would be, for example: 
general.useragent.override.ebay.com and set to the full user-agent

string which would need to be used, e.g.: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT
10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 (yes, the same as
with "Advertise Firefox compatibility" enabled but without the
"Seamonkey/*" part).

However, a few points with doing that:

- Ebay might block you from doing certain things as it looks like
you're using an outdated version of Firefox.

- However, that's the Firefox version that your version of SeaMonkey
is based on, so if you set it to a newer version they might try using
 features not supported in your version of SeaMonkey (so other things
 might break).

- You'll need to manually update that preference every time you
update SeaMonkey, if you want to be presenting the correct Firefox
version.

- You might also need to set overrides for other domains they load 
content from (e.g. ebaystatic.com), but working out what those are

can be tricky.

Just as I type this, I recall you used to be able to add prefs to 
SeaMonkey (or was it Mozilla Suite or Netscape Suite) by creating a

 Plain Text file called User.js (in the same location as your
prefs.js file) using a plain text editor like NotePad or WordPad,
but I'm not at all sure if this is still possible in SeaMonkey!


I'm pretty sure setting preferences that way has been mentioned on
these newsgroups relatively recently, so probably still supported. I
don't do it that way myself though (I just set preferences via
about:config), so can't say for certain.


Oh!! O.K!

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Re: ebay Listing Issues - SM 2.493 W10 Pro 32b

[mozilla-lists . mbourne]

Daniel wrote:

Bo1953 wrote on 27/06/2018 9:53 AM:

bo1953 wrote on 24/06/2018 3:26 AM:

Hello all,

In trying to list items on ebay I have a few issues which I
have yet to be able to resolve and hope someone here can
assist.

1) when linking to photos to be uploaded, all are blacked
out, after uploading, still blacked out no idea as what is
causing this to happen, can see photos clearly and correctly
in File Explorer (can complete in Chrome); and

2) When uploading photos, in SM the system is stuck in a loop
and will not upload in basic tool template...

Even when using Default User Agent, the issues are similar.

Suggestions or ideas as to what can be done to solve this?

TIA - bo1953


Thank you again, it does not work now, it did work about 90 days ago
 when I last listed on eBay.

I do not know what could have happened to uncover this issue.


A few possibilities:

- You upgraded your browser

- You changed some option (possibly to fix an issue with a different site)

- There's something different about those photos than ones you've 
successfully uploaded before (larger, different camera, edited with 
different software, saved with different options, etc.)


- Ebay changed something about their site (next in line if none of the 
above are true)


- Updates to Windows, Antivirus software, ad-blocker blacklists, or 
something else not obviously related (probably unlikely, but you never 
know...)


- Various other possibilities which don't occur to me off the top of my head


thank you again for your input and assistance.

bo1953


O.K., what to try now?? I see from your User Agent, you have enabled the
"Advertise FireFox Compatibility" at Edit->Preferences->Advanced->HTTP 
Networking in the "User Agent String".


It might also be worth trying to disable that option. I've come across a 
few sites (mainly Google, but there may be others) which break with 
SeaMonkey set to "Advertise Firefox compatibility" but work with it 
disabled (so that Firefox doesn't appear in the user-agent string).


If you have the Lightning extension installed, also disable "Advertise 
Lightning installation" on the same page. I've had that cause problems 
before as well.


This adds the FF version to the 
User Agent String so that yours now shows as 


User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
  Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.3

I believe some sites just want the "Firefox/52.0" bit (i.e. no mention 
what-so-ever of SM), or want the FF version to be that last bit of the 
UA String. And some sites are rejecting the "Firefox/52.0" bit in any 
case, because FF 52 is getting old. I think SM 2.49.3 is based, sort of, 
on FF 54 or 55.


I think Firefox 52 is correct for SeaMonkey 2.49.x

I know that it is possible to add a line to your Prefs so that you can 
have a UA which is only sent to, in your case, ebay.com, but I don't 
know how to do that or what its content should be, maybe same as your 
current UA but make it, say, "Firefox/60" or something.


The preference would be, for example:
  general.useragent.override.ebay.com
and set to the full user-agent string which would need to be used, e.g.:
  Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0
(yes, the same as with "Advertise Firefox compatibility" enabled but 
without the "Seamonkey/*" part).


However, a few points with doing that:

- Ebay might block you from doing certain things as it looks like you're 
using an outdated version of Firefox.


- However, that's the Firefox version that your version of SeaMonkey is 
based on, so if you set it to a newer version they might try using 
features not supported in your version of SeaMonkey (so other things 
might break).


- You'll need to manually update that preference every time you update 
SeaMonkey, if you want to be presenting the correct Firefox version.


- You might also need to set overrides for other domains they load 
content from (e.g. ebaystatic.com), but working out what those are can 
be tricky.


Just as I type 
this, I recall you used to be able to add prefs to SeaMonkey (or was it 
Mozilla Suite or Netscape Suite) by creating a Plain Text file called 
User.js (in the same location as your prefs.js file) using a plain text 
editor like NotePad or WordPad, but I'm not at all sure if this is still 
possible in SeaMonkey!


I'm pretty sure setting preferences that way has been mentioned on these 
newsgroups relatively recently, so probably still supported. I don't do 
it that way myself though (I just set preferences via about:config), so 
can't say for certain.


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Re: ebay Listing Issues - SM 2.493 W10 Pro 32b

[mozilla-lists . mbourne]

bo1953 wrote:

Hello all,

In trying to list items on ebay I have a few issues which I have yet to 
be able to resolve and hope someone here can assist.


1) when linking to photos to be uploaded, all are blacked out, after 
uploading, still blacked out no idea as what is causing this to happen, 
can see photos clearly and correctly in File Explorer (can complete in 
Chrome); and


2) When uploading photos, in SM the system is stuck in a loop and will 
not upload in basic tool template...


Even when using Default User Agent, the issues are similar.

Suggestions or ideas as to what can be done to solve this?


Do you have JavaScript disabled? I don't know about Ebay, but I've come 
across some sites which seem to need JavaScript to load images.


Do you use any extensions which might block some content, particularly 
script- or ad-blockers (e.g. NoScript, AdBlockPlus, uBlock, etc.)


Do you allow cookies? Allowing them to be stored for the current session 
only is usually OK, but if they're blocked completely that can break things.


Try clearing your cache (Edit > Preferences > Advanced > Cache > Clear 
Cache) and deleting all cookies relating to Ebay domains (Tools > Data 
Manager). Sometimes websites seem to get modified in such a way that 
they work with the browser in a clean state but break if you have cached 
content or cookies left from the previous version.


Does it work in "safe mode" (Help > Restart with Add-ons Disabled)? That 
gives the option of making some changes permanent, but you may not want 
to do that immediately - just see if safe mode helps first.


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Re: ebay Listing Issues - SM 2.493 W10 Pro 32b

[Daniel]

Bo1953 wrote on 27/06/2018 9:53 AM:

Daniel wrote:

bo1953 wrote on 26/06/2018 8:50 AM:

Daniel wrote:

bo1953 wrote on 24/06/2018 3:26 AM:

Hello all,

In trying to list items on ebay I have a few issues which I
have yet to be able to resolve and hope someone here can
assist.

1) when linking to photos to be uploaded, all are blacked
out, after uploading, still blacked out no idea as what is
causing this to happen, can see photos clearly and correctly
in File Explorer (can complete in Chrome); and

2) When uploading photos, in SM the system is stuck in a loop
and will not upload in basic tool template...

Even when using Default User Agent, the issues are similar.

Suggestions or ideas as to what can be done to solve this?

TIA - bo1953


Bo, check your settings at Edit->Prefs->Privacy &
Security->Images and check your "Image Acceptance Policy".

Some time ago, I was shopping on Amazon.ca or Ebay.ca and
couldn't click the "check out" button because there wasn't one,
'cause it came from a US server, and I had selected to only
load images from the originating server.

You live, You learn!!


Daniel,

Thank you for the input.

I have checked the permissions and it is checked for Load all
images and As many times as the image specifies.

Thank you again,


So does it work now, or was that how it was set-up when it didn't
work??



Daniel,

Thank you again, it does not work now, it did work about 90 days ago
 when I last listed on eBay.

I do not know what could have happened to uncover this issue.

thank you again for your input and assistance.

bo1953


O.K., what to try now?? I see from your User Agent, you have enabled the
"Advertise FireFox Compatibility" at Edit->Preferences->Advanced->HTTP 
Networking in the "User Agent String". This adds the FF version to the 
User Agent String so that yours now shows as 


User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.3

I believe some sites just want the "Firefox/52.0" bit (i.e. no mention 
what-so-ever of SM), or want the FF version to be that last bit of the 
UA String. And some sites are rejecting the "Firefox/52.0" bit in any 
case, because FF 52 is getting old. I think SM 2.49.3 is based, sort of, 
on FF 54 or 55.


I know that it is possible to add a line to your Prefs so that you can 
have a UA which is only sent to, in your case, ebay.com, but I don't 
know how to do that or what its content should be, maybe same as your 
current UA but make it, say, "Firefox/60" or something. Just as I type 
this, I recall you used to be able to add prefs to SeaMonkey (or was it 
Mozilla Suite or Netscape Suite) by creating a Plain Text file called 
User.js (in the same location as your prefs.js file) using a plain text 
editor like NotePad or WordPad, but I'm not at all sure if this is still 
possible in SeaMonkey!


Maybe someone else will drop by with that advise
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Re: ebay Listing Issues - SM 2.493 W10 Pro 32b

[Bo1953 via support-seamonkey]

Daniel wrote:

bo1953 wrote on 26/06/2018 8:50 AM:

Daniel wrote:

bo1953 wrote on 24/06/2018 3:26 AM:

Hello all,

In trying to list items on ebay I have a few issues which I have
yet to be able to resolve and hope someone here can assist.

1) when linking to photos to be uploaded, all are blacked out,
after uploading, still blacked out no idea as what is causing
this to happen, can see photos clearly and correctly in File
Explorer (can complete in Chrome); and

2) When uploading photos, in SM the system is stuck in a loop and
 will not upload in basic tool template...

Even when using Default User Agent, the issues are similar.

Suggestions or ideas as to what can be done to solve this?

TIA - bo1953


Bo, check your settings at Edit->Prefs->Privacy & Security->Images
and check your "Image Acceptance Policy".

Some time ago, I was shopping on Amazon.ca or Ebay.ca and couldn't
 click the "check out" button because there wasn't one, 'cause it
came from a US server, and I had selected to only load images from
the originating server.

You live, You learn!!


Daniel,

Thank you for the input.

I have checked the permissions and it is checked for Load all images
and As many times as the image specifies.

Thank you again,


So does it work now, or was that how it was set-up when it didn't work??



Daniel,

Thank you again, it does not work now, it did work about 90 days ago 
when I last listed on eBay.


I do not know what could have happened to uncover this issue.

thank you again for your input and assistance.

bo1953
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Re: ebay Listing Issues - SM 2.493 W10 Pro 32b

[Daniel]

bo1953 wrote on 26/06/2018 8:50 AM:

Daniel wrote:

bo1953 wrote on 24/06/2018 3:26 AM:

Hello all,

In trying to list items on ebay I have a few issues which I have
yet to be able to resolve and hope someone here can assist.

1) when linking to photos to be uploaded, all are blacked out,
after uploading, still blacked out no idea as what is causing
this to happen, can see photos clearly and correctly in File
Explorer (can complete in Chrome); and

2) When uploading photos, in SM the system is stuck in a loop and
 will not upload in basic tool template...

Even when using Default User Agent, the issues are similar.

Suggestions or ideas as to what can be done to solve this?

TIA - bo1953


Bo, check your settings at Edit->Prefs->Privacy & Security->Images
and check your "Image Acceptance Policy".

Some time ago, I was shopping on Amazon.ca or Ebay.ca and couldn't
 click the "check out" button because there wasn't one, 'cause it
came from a US server, and I had selected to only load images from
the originating server.

You live, You learn!!


Daniel,

Thank you for the input.

I have checked the permissions and it is checked for Load all images
and As many times as the image specifies.

Thank you again,


So does it work now, or was that how it was set-up when it didn't work??

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Re: ebay Listing Issues - SM 2.493 W10 Pro 32b

[bo1953]

Daniel wrote:

bo1953 wrote on 24/06/2018 3:26 AM:

Hello all,

In trying to list items on ebay I have a few issues which I have yet 
to be able to resolve and hope someone here can assist.


1) when linking to photos to be uploaded, all are blacked out, after 
uploading, still blacked out no idea as what is causing this to 
happen, can see photos clearly and correctly in File Explorer (can 
complete in Chrome); and


2) When uploading photos, in SM the system is stuck in a loop and will 
not upload in basic tool template...


Even when using Default User Agent, the issues are similar.

Suggestions or ideas as to what can be done to solve this?

TIA - bo1953


Bo, check your settings at Edit->Prefs->Privacy & Security->Images and 
check your "Image Acceptance Policy".


Some time ago, I was shopping on Amazon.ca or Ebay.ca and couldn't click 
the "check out" button because there wasn't one, 'cause it came from a 
US server, and I had selected to only load images from the originating 
server.


You live, You learn!!


Daniel,

Thank you for the input.

I have checked the permissions and it is checked for Load all images and 
As many times as the image specifies.


Thank you again,

bo1953

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Re: ebay Listing Issues - SM 2.493 W10 Pro 32b

[Daniel]

bo1953 wrote on 24/06/2018 3:26 AM:

Hello all,

In trying to list items on ebay I have a few issues which I have yet to 
be able to resolve and hope someone here can assist.


1) when linking to photos to be uploaded, all are blacked out, after 
uploading, still blacked out no idea as what is causing this to happen, 
can see photos clearly and correctly in File Explorer (can complete in 
Chrome); and


2) When uploading photos, in SM the system is stuck in a loop and will 
not upload in basic tool template...


Even when using Default User Agent, the issues are similar.

Suggestions or ideas as to what can be done to solve this?

TIA - bo1953


Bo, check your settings at Edit->Prefs->Privacy & Security->Images and 
check your "Image Acceptance Policy".


Some time ago, I was shopping on Amazon.ca or Ebay.ca and couldn't click 
the "check out" button because there wasn't one, 'cause it came from a 
US server, and I had selected to only load images from the originating 
server.


You live, You learn!!
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SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171016030418


User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
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ebay Listing Issues - SM 2.493 W10 Pro 32b

[bo1953]

Hello all,

In trying to list items on ebay I have a few issues which I have yet to 
be able to resolve and hope someone here can assist.


1) when linking to photos to be uploaded, all are blacked out, after 
uploading, still blacked out no idea as what is causing this to happen, 
can see photos clearly and correctly in File Explorer (can complete in 
Chrome); and


2) When uploading photos, in SM the system is stuck in a loop and will 
not upload in basic tool template...


Even when using Default User Agent, the issues are similar.

Suggestions or ideas as to what can be done to solve this?

TIA - bo1953

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Email Issues

[Dan Wong]

Support,

I have been using SeaMonkey for my browser and email for almost 20 years. I 
believe I am on version 2.48.

I had been using GoDaddy to host my marketing consulting website, etc. I 
recently retired and closed down my website but kept my domain names 
(omniface.com & wonguniverse.com), just in case retirement didn't work out. For 
some savings I just moved from my existing email servers to their Office 365 
exchange server after GoDaddy assured me there would be no complications. 
However, it was naive of me and I find that the folders I had originally set up 
have not automatically set up in the new email when I retrieve. The contents, 
apparently, do still exist as I can access them via browser, but all attempts 
to try and create folders/sub-folders do not seem to work.

GoDaddy techs tell me that there probably is a way to instruct SeaMonkey to 
treat the Office 365 server as IMAP and fix things. I would like to continue 
using SeaMonkey for my email, as you can imagine, I am comfortable and quite 
settled. I am being pushed to use Outlook, unless you can offer a solution. 
Please tell me that there is a fix. Thanks.


Dan Wong
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Re: Email Issues

[Dan Wong]

Support,


I also cannot send emails from SeaMonkey. I am doing this via web browser.


Thanks,



Dan Wong

510-406-


From: Dan Wong
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 1:51:01 PM
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Subject: Email Issues


Support,

I have been using SeaMonkey for my browser and email for almost 20 years. I 
believe I am on version 2.48.

I had been using GoDaddy to host my marketing consulting website, etc. I 
recently retired and closed down my website but kept my domain names 
(omniface.com & wonguniverse.com), just in case retirement didn't work out. For 
some savings I just moved from my existing email servers to their Office 365 
exchange server after GoDaddy assured me there would be no complications. 
However, it was naive of me and I find that the folders I had originally set up 
have not automatically set up in the new email when I retrieve. The contents, 
apparently, do still exist as I can access them via browser, but all attempts 
to try and create folders/sub-folders do not seem to work.

GoDaddy techs tell me that there probably is a way to instruct SeaMonkey to 
treat the Office 365 server as IMAP and fix things. I would like to continue 
using SeaMonkey for my email, as you can imagine, I am comfortable and quite 
settled. I am being pushed to use Outlook, unless you can offer a solution. 
Please tell me that there is a fix. Thanks.


Dan Wong
510-406-



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google email password issues

[Ian Cutler]

Hi guys,


I use Thunderbird and Firefox, but wish to try Seamonkey as an all in 
one. Unfortunately, like recent Thunderbird updates, Google will not 
allow passwords to be entered. The "next" button not working.



Is there a fix for this coming, as per Thunderbird?


Thanks,


Ian!


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google email password issues - update

[Ian Cutler]

Hi guys,


I use Thunderbird and Firefox, but wish to try Seamonkey as an all in 
one. Unfortunately, like recent Thunderbird updates, Google will not 
allow passwords to be entered. The "next" button not working.



Is there a fix for this coming, as per Thunderbird?

macos 10.12.6


Thanks,


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seamonkey issues

[bobbim]

 
Please fix seamonkey so that I can watch videos (as on cnn.com), and so it
allows me to complete online email forms without having to use the seamonkey
email system (I use the old Windows Outlook 2003). Seamonkey currently locks
up and refuses to allow me to fill out any online email forms.

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Re: 2 Issues with 2.48

[Jonathan N. Little]

WaltS48 wrote:

On 8/5/17 5:57 PM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

After upgrading to 2.48 I encountered two issues. Windows 10 Pro 1704
SeaMonkey 2.48 32-bit.

First issue is ReminderFox plugin failed to sync with Google Calendar.
Failed with 400 bad request. Been using ReminderFox for years with no
problem but now would not sync even when trying to recreate the link.
So substituted with Lightning plus Provider for Google Calendar. Fair
substitute except you cannot really mark status of events like in
ReminderFox.

Next issue that was the deal breaker could no longer print from
SeaMonkey. Either direct or via Print Preview would throw error.

Tested on Linux and does not seem to have the print problem.

Reinstalled 2.46. Rebooted and not only does print and print preview
now works but ReminderFox plugin works!

Anyone else have similar issues?



The latest version of Reminderfox is 2.1.5.6 released June 26, 2017.

Is that the version you have?

Do you need to convert it for use in SeaMonkey?

<http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/>



Reminderfox is 2.1.5.6 no conversion needed. Tested with 2.48 which I 
have on my laptop with Ubuntu and Reminderfox won't connect yet still 
working here with 2.46


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Re: 2 Issues with 2.48

[Jonathan N. Little]

Ray_Net wrote:

Why did you hve "Windows 10 Pro 1704"  mine is 1703 ...
(Update-Check done yesterday)


typo: 1703

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Re: 2 Issues with 2.48

[WaltS48]

On 8/5/17 5:57 PM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
After upgrading to 2.48 I encountered two issues. Windows 10 Pro 1704 
SeaMonkey 2.48 32-bit.


First issue is ReminderFox plugin failed to sync with Google Calendar. 
Failed with 400 bad request. Been using ReminderFox for years with no 
problem but now would not sync even when trying to recreate the link. So 
substituted with Lightning plus Provider for Google Calendar. Fair 
substitute except you cannot really mark status of events like in 
ReminderFox.


Next issue that was the deal breaker could no longer print from 
SeaMonkey. Either direct or via Print Preview would throw error.


Tested on Linux and does not seem to have the print problem.

Reinstalled 2.46. Rebooted and not only does print and print preview now 
works but ReminderFox plugin works!


Anyone else have similar issues?



The latest version of Reminderfox is 2.1.5.6 released June 26, 2017.

Is that the version you have?

Do you need to convert it for use in SeaMonkey?

<http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/>

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Re: 2 Issues with 2.48

[Ray_Net]

Jonathan N. Little wrote on 06-08-17 02:08:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/5/2017 2:57 PM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

After upgrading to 2.48 I encountered two issues. Windows 10 Pro 1704
SeaMonkey 2.48 32-bit.

First issue is ReminderFox plugin failed to sync with Google Calendar.
Failed with 400 bad request. Been using ReminderFox for years with no
problem but now would not sync even when trying to recreate the 
link. So

substituted with Lightning plus Provider for Google Calendar. Fair
substitute except you cannot really mark status of events like in
ReminderFox.

Next issue that was the deal breaker could no longer print from
SeaMonkey. Either direct or via Print Preview would throw error.

Tested on Linux and does not seem to have the print problem.

Reinstalled 2.46. Rebooted and not only does print and print preview 
now

works but ReminderFox plugin works!

Anyone else have similar issues?


Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:51.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.48

I am able to print both 1-page Web pages and 4-page Web pages.

No, I do not have ReminderFox; and I do not use Google Calendar. (Is
ReminderFox a plugin, or is it an extension?)  I do have some 28
extensions installed in SeaMonkey.



Extension: <http://www.reminderfox.org/> Really useful.

I'll try reinstalling 2.48 again and see if I lose printing.


Why did you hve "Windows 10 Pro 1704"  mine is 1703 ...
(Update-Check done yesterday)
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Re: 2 Issues with 2.48

[David E. Ross]

On 8/5/2017 2:57 PM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
> After upgrading to 2.48 I encountered two issues. Windows 10 Pro 1704 
> SeaMonkey 2.48 32-bit.
> 
> First issue is ReminderFox plugin failed to sync with Google Calendar. 
> Failed with 400 bad request. Been using ReminderFox for years with no 
> problem but now would not sync even when trying to recreate the link. So 
> substituted with Lightning plus Provider for Google Calendar. Fair 
> substitute except you cannot really mark status of events like in 
> ReminderFox.
> 
> Next issue that was the deal breaker could no longer print from 
> SeaMonkey. Either direct or via Print Preview would throw error.
> 
> Tested on Linux and does not seem to have the print problem.
> 
> Reinstalled 2.46. Rebooted and not only does print and print preview now 
> works but ReminderFox plugin works!
> 
> Anyone else have similar issues?
> 
Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:51.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.48

I am able to print both 1-page Web pages and 4-page Web pages.

No, I do not have ReminderFox; and I do not use Google Calendar. (Is
ReminderFox a plugin, or is it an extension?)  I do have some 28
extensions installed in SeaMonkey.

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Re: 2 Issues with 2.48

[Jonathan N. Little]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/5/2017 2:57 PM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

After upgrading to 2.48 I encountered two issues. Windows 10 Pro 1704
SeaMonkey 2.48 32-bit.

First issue is ReminderFox plugin failed to sync with Google Calendar.
Failed with 400 bad request. Been using ReminderFox for years with no
problem but now would not sync even when trying to recreate the link. So
substituted with Lightning plus Provider for Google Calendar. Fair
substitute except you cannot really mark status of events like in
ReminderFox.

Next issue that was the deal breaker could no longer print from
SeaMonkey. Either direct or via Print Preview would throw error.

Tested on Linux and does not seem to have the print problem.

Reinstalled 2.46. Rebooted and not only does print and print preview now
works but ReminderFox plugin works!

Anyone else have similar issues?


Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:51.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.48

I am able to print both 1-page Web pages and 4-page Web pages.

No, I do not have ReminderFox; and I do not use Google Calendar. (Is
ReminderFox a plugin, or is it an extension?)  I do have some 28
extensions installed in SeaMonkey.



Extension: <http://www.reminderfox.org/> Really useful.

I'll try reinstalling 2.48 again and see if I lose printing.

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2 Issues with 2.48

[Jonathan N. Little]

After upgrading to 2.48 I encountered two issues. Windows 10 Pro 1704 
SeaMonkey 2.48 32-bit.


First issue is ReminderFox plugin failed to sync with Google Calendar. 
Failed with 400 bad request. Been using ReminderFox for years with no 
problem but now would not sync even when trying to recreate the link. So 
substituted with Lightning plus Provider for Google Calendar. Fair 
substitute except you cannot really mark status of events like in 
ReminderFox.


Next issue that was the deal breaker could no longer print from 
SeaMonkey. Either direct or via Print Preview would throw error.


Tested on Linux and does not seem to have the print problem.

Reinstalled 2.46. Rebooted and not only does print and print preview now 
works but ReminderFox plugin works!


Anyone else have similar issues?

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Re: Bugzilla's 1288911 & 1326077 -- Re: V2.46's quoting issues with wordwrapping in plain text format?

[Stanimir Stamenkov]

Wed, 28 Dec 2016 22:22:01 +0100, /Frank-Rainer Grahl/:

Ant wrote:

On 12/28/2016 10:59 AM, Ant wrote:

On 12/28/2016 10:46 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:


Confirmed Stanimir's fix using userContent.css works.

  span[_moz_quote=true] {
display: block;
width: 98vw;
  }


Please kindly add it to my bug report about it. :)


https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1288911 as the original 
since mine is a dupe. Also, it suggested using draft as a temporary 
workaround which worked for me! :D


Good thing its fixed in 52. 2.49 might become the first regular 
SeaMonkey ESR version till 2018.


The "userContent.css" workaround I've suggested I've already seen 
implemented in 2.49 (couldn't find the original Bug 1288911 previously). 
 SeaMonkey 2.49 (Gecko 52) is also the version which fixes one of the 
most annoying SeaMonkey 2.x Mail bugs for me:


https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=456053

Note, this is still an issue in SeaMonkey 2.46 where some sort of 
workaround is to use HTML composition, and then send in plain text. 
This could often lead to unexpected transformations, however.


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Re: Bugzilla's 1288911 & 1326077 -- Re: V2.46's quoting issues with wordwrapping in plain text format?

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Good thing its fixed in 52. 2.49 might become the first regular SeaMonkey ESR 
version till 2018.


FRG

Ant wrote:

On 12/28/2016 10:59 AM, Ant wrote:

On 12/28/2016 10:46 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Ant wrote:

On 12/28/2016 7:42 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 12/28/2016 3:26 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Open a bug against mailnews so that it can be fixed.

FRG

Ant wrote:

On 12/27/2016 5:57 PM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Ant wrote:

Hello.

Is it me or is SM v2.46 having problems wordwrapping issues
when replying with quotes and plaintext format? They don't
seem to wordwrap correctly like in v2.40 and earlier.
https://i.imgbox.com/V8mQVnH2.gif for a screen shot/capture
when I was replying to "2.46 data manager not working"
newsgroup thread. It also happens with e-mails. HTML formats
seem OK though. :(

Thank you in advance. :)



I've noticed it as well. Seems every reply requires CTRL+R
rewrap now...


It sucks for lists I have. :(


When you open the bug report, please reply here with the bug number.


Done! https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1326077 ... :)


Confirmed Stanimir's fix using userContent.css works.

  span[_moz_quote=true] {
display: block;
width: 98vw;
  }


Please kindly add it to my bug report about it. :)


https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1288911 as the original since 
mine is a dupe. Also, it suggested using draft as a temporary workaround which 
worked for me! :D


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Re: SMS/texts' e-mails issues...

[Ant]

I found a temporary workaround. Highlight the quoted inlined text 
attachment and reply to quote it correctly.



On 12/22/2016 1:34 PM, Ant wrote:

Hello.

I text/SMS through e-mails, but I noticed SeaMonkey doesn't show the
text message attachments. I can see them if I display their attachments
inlined though. Also, replying them with quotes fail as well.

Here is an example from an e-mail's source code from an [deleted phone
#]@mms.att.net:
...
--=_Part_11207289_1714350348.1482441578497
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Content-Disposition: Attachment; Filename=text_0.txt; Charset=US-ASCII
Content-ID: 0
Content-Location: text_0.txt
Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64

QmFieSBub3QgZ29pbmcgdG8gc2xlZXAuLi4gZ3JhbmRtYSBnZXR0aW5nIGJhY2sgbGF0ZS4uLiBu

byBtb21teSBhcm91bmQuLi5hIGJpcnRoZGF5IHBhcnR5IGF0IDYgdGhhdCByZXF1aXJlcyBhIHRy

aXAgdG8gdGFyZ2V0IGZvciBhIHByZXNlbnQuLi4gdG8gbmFtZSBhIGZldw==
--=_Part_11207289_1714350348.1482441578497--


Is it because of its text attachment? Is there a way to show them as
attachments and quote when replying to them?

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Re: Bugzilla's 1326077 -- Re: V2.46's quoting issues with wordwrapping in plain text format?

[Ant]

On 12/28/2016 10:46 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Ant wrote:

On 12/28/2016 7:42 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 12/28/2016 3:26 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Open a bug against mailnews so that it can be fixed.

FRG

Ant wrote:

On 12/27/2016 5:57 PM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Ant wrote:

Hello.

Is it me or is SM v2.46 having problems wordwrapping issues
when replying with quotes and plaintext format? They don't
seem to wordwrap correctly like in v2.40 and earlier.
https://i.imgbox.com/V8mQVnH2.gif for a screen shot/capture
when I was replying to "2.46 data manager not working"
newsgroup thread. It also happens with e-mails. HTML formats
seem OK though. :(

Thank you in advance. :)



I've noticed it as well. Seems every reply requires CTRL+R
rewrap now...


It sucks for lists I have. :(


When you open the bug report, please reply here with the bug number.


Done! https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1326077 ... :)


Confirmed Stanimir's fix using userContent.css works.

  span[_moz_quote=true] {
display: block;
width: 98vw;
  }


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Re: V2.46's quoting issues with wordwrapping in plain text format?

[Ant]

On 12/28/2016 4:38 AM, Hartmut Figge wrote:

Ant:


Is there a Bugzilla bug report with your patch?


No. The change to wrapping was intentional. All I had to do was a
backout. Then, due to bit rot, a transfer to a private patch.

I could attach the patch, but that would be only useful if you compile
your own SM.


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Re: V2.46's quoting issues with wordwrapping in plain text format?

[Jonathan N. Little]

Jonathan N. Little wrote:
> Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
>> Tue, 27 Dec 2016 20:57:31 -0500, /Jonathan N. Little/:



>>> I've noticed it as well. Seems every reply requires CTRL+R rewrap now...

well I'll be!

>>
>> Note, this is only a visual issue while composing.  You don't need to
>> rewrap – the lines you visually see wrapping will be really sent as
>> single lines.
>>
>> One could try adding the following style rule in "userContent.css":
>>
>>   span[_moz_quote=true] {
>> display: block;
>> width: 98vw;
>>   }
>>
>> http://kb.mozillazine.org/UserContent.css
>>
> 
> Really? Let's see since as I compose this without rewrapping my previous
> quoted line has "now..." on a new line without quote marks.
> 


Okay I will try the userContent.css fix, because it really makes
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Re: V2.46's quoting issues with wordwrapping in plain text format?

[David E. Ross]

On 12/28/2016 3:26 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
> Open a bug against mailnews so that it can be fixed.
> 
> FRG
> 
> Ant wrote:
>> On 12/27/2016 5:57 PM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
>>> Ant wrote:
>>>> Hello.
>>>>
>>>> Is it me or is SM v2.46 having problems wordwrapping issues when
>>>> replying with quotes and plaintext format? They don't seem to
>>>> wordwrap correctly like in v2.40 and earlier.
>>>> https://i.imgbox.com/V8mQVnH2.gif for a screen shot/capture when I
>>>> was replying to "2.46 data manager not working" newsgroup thread. It
>>>> also happens with e-mails. HTML formats seem OK though. :(
>>>>
>>>> Thank you in advance. :)
>>>
>>>
>>> I've noticed it as well. Seems every reply requires CTRL+R rewrap now...
>>
>> It sucks for lists I have. :(
> 

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Re: V2.46's quoting issues with wordwrapping in plain text format?

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Open a bug against mailnews so that it can be fixed.

FRG

Ant wrote:

On 12/27/2016 5:57 PM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Ant wrote:

Hello.

Is it me or is SM v2.46 having problems wordwrapping issues when
replying with quotes and plaintext format? They don't seem to
wordwrap correctly like in v2.40 and earlier.
https://i.imgbox.com/V8mQVnH2.gif for a screen shot/capture when I
was replying to "2.46 data manager not working" newsgroup thread. It
also happens with e-mails. HTML formats seem OK though. :(

Thank you in advance. :)



I've noticed it as well. Seems every reply requires CTRL+R rewrap now...


It sucks for lists I have. :(


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Re: V2.46's quoting issues with wordwrapping in plain text format?

[Ant]

On 12/27/2016 5:57 PM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Ant wrote:

Hello.

Is it me or is SM v2.46 having problems wordwrapping issues when
replying with quotes and plaintext format? They don't seem to
wordwrap correctly like in v2.40 and earlier.
https://i.imgbox.com/V8mQVnH2.gif for a screen shot/capture when I
was replying to "2.46 data manager not working" newsgroup thread. It
also happens with e-mails. HTML formats seem OK though. :(

Thank you in advance. :)



I've noticed it as well. Seems every reply requires CTRL+R rewrap now...


It sucks for lists I have. :(
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Re: V2.46's quoting issues with wordwrapping in plain text format?

[Jonathan N. Little]

Ant wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> Is it me or is SM v2.46 having problems wordwrapping issues when 
> replying with quotes and plaintext format? They don't seem to
> wordwrap correctly like in v2.40 and earlier.
> https://i.imgbox.com/V8mQVnH2.gif for a screen shot/capture when I
> was replying to "2.46 data manager not working" newsgroup thread. It
> also happens with e-mails. HTML formats seem OK though. :(
> 
> Thank you in advance. :)


I've noticed it as well. Seems every reply requires CTRL+R rewrap now...


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Re: V2.46's quoting issues with wordwrapping in plain text format?

[Ant]

On 12/27/2016 4:11 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 12/27/2016 9:37 AM, Ant wrote:

Hello.

Is it me or is SM v2.46 having problems wordwrapping issues when
replying with quotes and plaintext format? They don't seem to wordwrap
correctly like in v2.40 and earlier. https://i.imgbox.com/V8mQVnH2.gif
for a screen shot/capture when I was replying to "2.46 data manager not
working" newsgroup thread. It also happens with e-mails. HTML formats
seem OK though. :(

Thank you in advance. :)



I have seen this problem for many years, in both Netscape Communicator
and Thunderbird (including the latest TBird version 45.5.1).

The problem is with the E-mail application that sent the message to you.
 It sent wrapped lines that are too long.  The lines often become too
long when a quoted message with only > is again quoted in a reply with

and then quoted again with >>>.


E-mail? It's not just e-mail. Also, newsgroups. It's really bad in v2.46 
compared to earlier versions. Look at this post! :(

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Re: V2.46's quoting issues with wordwrapping in plain text format?

[David E. Ross]

On 12/27/2016 9:37 AM, Ant wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> Is it me or is SM v2.46 having problems wordwrapping issues when 
> replying with quotes and plaintext format? They don't seem to wordwrap 
> correctly like in v2.40 and earlier. https://i.imgbox.com/V8mQVnH2.gif 
> for a screen shot/capture when I was replying to "2.46 data manager not 
> working" newsgroup thread. It also happens with e-mails. HTML formats 
> seem OK though. :(
> 
> Thank you in advance. :)
> 

I have seen this problem for many years, in both Netscape Communicator
and Thunderbird (including the latest TBird version 45.5.1).

The problem is with the E-mail application that sent the message to you.
 It sent wrapped lines that are too long.  The lines often become too
long when a quoted message with only > is again quoted in a reply with
>> and then quoted again with >>>.

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Re: SMS/texts' e-mails issues...

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On 12/22/2016 1:34 PM, Ant wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> I text/SMS through e-mails, but I noticed SeaMonkey doesn't show the 
> text message attachments. I can see them if I display their attachments 
> inlined though. Also, replying them with quotes fail as well.
> 
> Here is an example from an e-mail's source code from an [deleted phone 
> #]@mms.att.net:
> ...
> --=_Part_11207289_1714350348.1482441578497
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> Content-Disposition: Attachment; Filename=text_0.txt; Charset=US-ASCII
> Content-ID: 0
> Content-Location: text_0.txt
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64
> 
> QmFieSBub3QgZ29pbmcgdG8gc2xlZXAuLi4gZ3JhbmRtYSBnZXR0aW5nIGJhY2sgbGF0ZS4uLiBu
> byBtb21teSBhcm91bmQuLi5hIGJpcnRoZGF5IHBhcnR5IGF0IDYgdGhhdCByZXF1aXJlcyBhIHRy
> aXAgdG8gdGFyZ2V0IGZvciBhIHByZXNlbnQuLi4gdG8gbmFtZSBhIGZldw==
> --=_Part_11207289_1714350348.1482441578497--
> 
> 
> Is it because of its text attachment? Is there a way to show them as 
> attachments and quote when replying to them?
> 
> Thank you in advance. :)
> 

It's because it's Base 64.

Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64

When you display inline SeaMonkey decodes the Base 64 for you. When it
is an attachment you need to provide your own decoder:

https://www.base64decode.org/
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SMS/texts' e-mails issues...

[Ant]

Hello.

I text/SMS through e-mails, but I noticed SeaMonkey doesn't show the 
text message attachments. I can see them if I display their attachments 
inlined though. Also, replying them with quotes fail as well.


Here is an example from an e-mail's source code from an [deleted phone 
#]@mms.att.net:

...
--=_Part_11207289_1714350348.1482441578497
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Content-Disposition: Attachment; Filename=text_0.txt; Charset=US-ASCII
Content-ID: 0
Content-Location: text_0.txt
Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64

QmFieSBub3QgZ29pbmcgdG8gc2xlZXAuLi4gZ3JhbmRtYSBnZXR0aW5nIGJhY2sgbGF0ZS4uLiBu
byBtb21teSBhcm91bmQuLi5hIGJpcnRoZGF5IHBhcnR5IGF0IDYgdGhhdCByZXF1aXJlcyBhIHRy
aXAgdG8gdGFyZ2V0IGZvciBhIHByZXNlbnQuLi4gdG8gbmFtZSBhIGZldw==
--=_Part_11207289_1714350348.1482441578497--


Is it because of its text attachment? Is there a way to show them as 
attachments and quote when replying to them?


Thank you in advance. :)
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Re: akalla version 2.46 issues

[EE]

Mason83 wrote:

On 09/12/2016 20:10, EE wrote:


If I search in my URL bar, I get whatever engine is selected in the
searchbar.


https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1265881

It is less bother to change the search engine in the searchbar.  I have 
never bothered to do that from the Preferences.


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Re: akalla version 2.46 issues

[cmcadams]

Mr. Ed wrote:

On 12/07/16 3:32 PM, Mason83 wrote:

On 07/12/2016 21:16, Mr. Ed wrote:


On 11/20/16 2:44 PM, Mason83 wrote:


1) I was using the StartPage search engine for searches done directly
in the location bar. It now goes to duckduckgo.


That also happens in SM 2.47 (64 bit).  Build identifier: 20161201025712
No matter what search engine is selected or moved to the "top"
duckduck takes over.


https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1265881#c6

"Workaround: set engine in Sidebar->Search and do a search.
Default engine is updated to this name."



Thanks.  Don't normally use Sidebar.  Did notice that whatever I change it to in
the Sidebar, it remains DuckDuck in the Edit/Preferences/Browser/Internet 
Search box



How I solved this in Windows 2.46:

Go to Edit > Preferences > Browser > Internet Search

Click on Manage Search Engines...

Delete every option but your search engine of choice in the pick-list. That engine 
will be the new default.


Clicking on Restore Defaults, afterwards, will restore the list but won't change the 
default.



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Re: akalla version 2.46 issues

[Mason83]

On 09/12/2016 20:10, EE wrote:

> If I search in my URL bar, I get whatever engine is selected in the 
> searchbar.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1265881

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Re: akalla version 2.46 issues

[John Duncan]

Mason83 wrote:

On 22/11/2016 15:54, TCW wrote:


On Sun, 20 Nov 2016 21:08:09 +0100, Mason83 wrote:


On 20/11/2016 20:50, Mason83 wrote:

On 20/11/2016 20:47, Mason83 wrote:

On 20/11/2016 20:44, Mason83 wrote:


2) When I display an email or NG message, the header pane was empty.
Removing the Mnenhy add-on seems to have fixed that.
Will try reinstalling.


https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/mnenhy/

Breaks the header pane...

Incompatible with Lightning?


Disabling Lightning doesn't help :-(

Maybe Mnenhy is just not compatible with SM 2.46?

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/mnenhy/
says Works with Thunderbird 3.0 - 29.0a1

If anyone is using that extension on SM 2.46 or higher,
I'm all ears.


Last Updated: February 25, 2014

Probably broken by the upgrade tread-mill :-(

I used it for Message-ID Search and Custom Headers/X-Faces.

Any other extension supporting those features?

Regards.


Probably just a dead and unsupported add-on.


It is likely that the original author has stopped working on that
add-on. However, someone else picked up the ball:

https://www.mozdev.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=26256#c2
https://bitbucket.org/stanio/mnenhy/downloads

Here are the differences between
mnenhy-0.8.6-fx+tb+sm.zip (the original from amo)
and
mnenhy-0.8.6.1.2-stanio.zip (the update from stanio)

https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8930566

Same diff, ignoring white-space changes and lines starting
with "let", "var", or "const"

https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8930568

Ratty and frg said the changes are just syntactic.

Regards.

Would this breakage have anything to do with the fact that the XUL/XPCOM 
SDK is being deprecated in the near future? I am writing/maintaining a 
similar add-on (to display Face/X-Face/etc. headers in the header area), 
and I think that my add-on will most likely break soon too.


https://github.com/JohnDDuncanIII/MessageFaces
^ url, if you're interested.
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Re: akalla version 2.46 issues

[EE]

Mason83 wrote:

On 08/12/2016 20:11, EE wrote:

Mr. Ed wrote:

On 12/07/16 3:32 PM, Mason83 wrote:

On 07/12/2016 21:16, Mr. Ed wrote:


On 11/20/16 2:44 PM, Mason83 wrote:


1) I was using the StartPage search engine for searches done directly
in the location bar. It now goes to duckduckgo.


That also happens in SM 2.47 (64 bit).  Build identifier: 20161201025712
No matter what search engine is selected or moved to the "top"
duckduck takes over.


https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1265881#c6

"Workaround: set engine in Sidebar->Search and do a search.
Default engine is updated to this name."



Thanks.  Don't normally use Sidebar.  Did notice that whatever I change it to in
the Sidebar, it remains DuckDuck in the Edit/Preferences/Browser/Internet 
Search box


That must be a Windows problem.


No. Same problem in Linux.


 With Mac SeaMonkey, I can use whichever
search engine I want if it is installed in my searchbar.


We're talking about search in URL bar.

If I search in my URL bar, I get whatever engine is selected in the 
searchbar.


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Re: akalla version 2.46 issues

[Mason83]

On 08/12/2016 20:11, EE wrote:
> Mr. Ed wrote:
>> On 12/07/16 3:32 PM, Mason83 wrote:
>>> On 07/12/2016 21:16, Mr. Ed wrote:
>>>
 On 11/20/16 2:44 PM, Mason83 wrote:

> 1) I was using the StartPage search engine for searches done directly
> in the location bar. It now goes to duckduckgo.

 That also happens in SM 2.47 (64 bit).  Build identifier: 20161201025712
 No matter what search engine is selected or moved to the "top"
 duckduck takes over.
>>>
>>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1265881#c6
>>>
>>> "Workaround: set engine in Sidebar->Search and do a search.
>>> Default engine is updated to this name."
>>>
>>
>> Thanks.  Don't normally use Sidebar.  Did notice that whatever I change it 
>> to in
>> the Sidebar, it remains DuckDuck in the Edit/Preferences/Browser/Internet 
>> Search box
>>
> That must be a Windows problem.

No. Same problem in Linux.

>  With Mac SeaMonkey, I can use whichever 
> search engine I want if it is installed in my searchbar.

We're talking about search in URL bar.

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Re: akalla version 2.46 issues

[EE]

Mr. Ed wrote:

On 12/07/16 3:32 PM, Mason83 wrote:

On 07/12/2016 21:16, Mr. Ed wrote:


On 11/20/16 2:44 PM, Mason83 wrote:


1) I was using the StartPage search engine for searches done directly
in the location bar. It now goes to duckduckgo.


That also happens in SM 2.47 (64 bit).  Build identifier: 20161201025712
No matter what search engine is selected or moved to the "top"
duckduck takes over.


https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1265881#c6

"Workaround: set engine in Sidebar->Search and do a search.
Default engine is updated to this name."



Thanks.  Don't normally use Sidebar.  Did notice that whatever I change it to in
the Sidebar, it remains DuckDuck in the Edit/Preferences/Browser/Internet 
Search box

That must be a Windows problem.  With Mac SeaMonkey, I can use whichever 
search engine I want if it is installed in my searchbar.


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Re: akalla version 2.46 issues

[Mr. Ed]

On 12/07/16 3:32 PM, Mason83 wrote:
> On 07/12/2016 21:16, Mr. Ed wrote:
> 
>> On 11/20/16 2:44 PM, Mason83 wrote:
>>
>>> 1) I was using the StartPage search engine for searches done directly
>>> in the location bar. It now goes to duckduckgo.
>>
>> That also happens in SM 2.47 (64 bit).  Build identifier: 20161201025712
>> No matter what search engine is selected or moved to the "top"
>> duckduck takes over.
> 
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1265881#c6
> 
> "Workaround: set engine in Sidebar->Search and do a search.
> Default engine is updated to this name."
> 

Thanks.  Don't normally use Sidebar.  Did notice that whatever I change it to in
the Sidebar, it remains DuckDuck in the Edit/Preferences/Browser/Internet 
Search box

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Re: akalla version 2.46 issues

[Mason83]

On 07/12/2016 21:16, Mr. Ed wrote:

> On 11/20/16 2:44 PM, Mason83 wrote:
>
>> 1) I was using the StartPage search engine for searches done directly
>> in the location bar. It now goes to duckduckgo.
> 
> That also happens in SM 2.47 (64 bit).  Build identifier: 20161201025712
> No matter what search engine is selected or moved to the "top"
> duckduck takes over.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1265881#c6

"Workaround: set engine in Sidebar->Search and do a search.
Default engine is updated to this name."

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Re: akalla version 2.46 issues

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Mr. Ed wrote:

On 11/20/16 2:44 PM, Mason83 wrote:

Hello,

Issues:

1) I was using the StartPage search engine for searches done directly
in the location bar. It now goes to duckduckgo.
>> That also happens in SM 2.47 (64 bit).  Build identifier: 
20161201025712

>> No matter what search engine is selected or moved to the "top"
>> duckduck takes over.

Known bug. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1265881 for 
a workaround.



2) When I display an email or NG message, the header pane was empty.
Removing the Mnenhy add-on seems to have fixed that.
Will try reinstalling.


Mnenhy is broken and the dev away away. I think someone patched it up.

FRG

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Re: akalla version 2.46 issues

[Mr. Ed]

On 11/20/16 2:44 PM, Mason83 wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I'm trying out this version:
> https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows32/seamonkey-2.46.en-US.win32.installer.exe
> 
> Issues:
> 
> 1) I was using the StartPage search engine for searches done directly
> in the location bar. It now goes to duckduckgo.

That also happens in SM 2.47 (64 bit).  Build identifier: 20161201025712
No matter what search engine is selected or moved to the "top"
duckduck takes over.

> 
> 2) When I display an email or NG message, the header pane was empty.
> Removing the Mnenhy add-on seems to have fixed that.
> Will try reinstalling.
> 
> Regards.
> 


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Re: akalla version 2.46 issues

[Mason83]

On 22/11/2016 18:24, Mason83 wrote:

> On 22/11/2016 17:44, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
> 
>> No the issue was I misread your original post. You were not offering
>> alternatives but was also asking for alternative. Sorry.
> 
> Maybe there is no need to find alternatives for mnenhy.
> 
> Independently, two developers have provided an updated
> (unofficial) forked version:
> 
> By Hartmut Figge -- pointed out by Mc in #seamonkey
> http://www.triffids.de/pub/mnenhy/0.8.6.1.h2/
> 
> By Stanimir Stamenkov -- via 
> https://www.mozdev.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=26256#c2
> https://bitbucket.org/stanio/mnenhy/downloads/
> 
> I will test Hartmut's version (hopefully today).

mnenhy 0.8.6.1.h2 works for me in SM 2.46

Basically, I'm satisfied with the 2.40 to 2.46 upgrade on
Windows. I'll give the Linux upgrade another try.

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Re: akalla version 2.46 issues

[Mason83]

On 22/11/2016 17:44, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

> No the issue was I misread your original post. You were not offering
> alternatives but was also asking for alternative. Sorry.

Maybe there is no need to find alternatives for mnenhy.

Independently, two developers have provided an updated
(unofficial) forked version:

By Hartmut Figge -- pointed out by Mc in #seamonkey
http://www.triffids.de/pub/mnenhy/0.8.6.1.h2/

By Stanimir Stamenkov -- via 
https://www.mozdev.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=26256#c2
https://bitbucket.org/stanio/mnenhy/downloads/

I will test Hartmut's version (hopefully today).

Regards.

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Re: akalla version 2.46 issues

[Jonathan N. Little]

Mason83 wrote:
> On 22/11/2016 15:23, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
>> Mason83 wrote:
>>> On 21/11/2016 23:50, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
>>>
 Mason83 wrote:

> Are you aware of other extensions which provide these features:
>
> 1) Message-ID Search
> 2) Display Custom Headers/X-Faces (I can live without that)
> 3) inline decoding of base64

 Such as?
>>>
>>> Such as what?
>>
>> I did think it was too obscure a question but okay:
>>
>> Q: What other extensions which provide these features: Message-ID,
>> search, display custom headers, inline decoding of base64 and other
>> encoding?
> 
> I'm asking if there are other Thunderbird add-ons in existence
> which implement one of the features listed above.
> 
> To put it differently, what are the alternatives to Mnenhy?
> 
> I'll try reaching out to Karsten Düsterloh.

No the issue was I misread your original post. You were not offering
alternatives but was also asking for alternative. Sorry.


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Re: akalla version 2.46 issues

[Mason83]

On 22/11/2016 15:54, TCW wrote:

> On Sun, 20 Nov 2016 21:08:09 +0100, Mason83 wrote:
> 
>> On 20/11/2016 20:50, Mason83 wrote:
>>> On 20/11/2016 20:47, Mason83 wrote:
 On 20/11/2016 20:44, Mason83 wrote:

> 2) When I display an email or NG message, the header pane was empty.
> Removing the Mnenhy add-on seems to have fixed that.
> Will try reinstalling.

 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/mnenhy/

 Breaks the header pane...

 Incompatible with Lightning?
>>>
>>> Disabling Lightning doesn't help :-(
>>>
>>> Maybe Mnenhy is just not compatible with SM 2.46?
>>>
>>> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/mnenhy/
>>> says Works with Thunderbird 3.0 - 29.0a1
>>>
>>> If anyone is using that extension on SM 2.46 or higher,
>>> I'm all ears.
>>
>> Last Updated: February 25, 2014
>>
>> Probably broken by the upgrade tread-mill :-(
>>
>> I used it for Message-ID Search and Custom Headers/X-Faces.
>>
>> Any other extension supporting those features?
>>
>> Regards.
> 
> Probably just a dead and unsupported add-on.

It is likely that the original author has stopped working on that
add-on. However, someone else picked up the ball:

https://www.mozdev.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=26256#c2
https://bitbucket.org/stanio/mnenhy/downloads

Here are the differences between
mnenhy-0.8.6-fx+tb+sm.zip (the original from amo)
and
mnenhy-0.8.6.1.2-stanio.zip (the update from stanio)

https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8930566

Same diff, ignoring white-space changes and lines starting
with "let", "var", or "const"

https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8930568

Ratty and frg said the changes are just syntactic.

Regards.

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Re: akalla version 2.46 issues

[Mason83]

On 22/11/2016 15:23, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
> Mason83 wrote:
>> On 21/11/2016 23:50, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
>>
>>> Mason83 wrote:
>>>
 Are you aware of other extensions which provide these features:

 1) Message-ID Search
 2) Display Custom Headers/X-Faces (I can live without that)
 3) inline decoding of base64
>>>
>>> Such as?
>>
>> Such as what?
> 
> I did think it was too obscure a question but okay:
> 
> Q: What other extensions which provide these features: Message-ID,
> search, display custom headers, inline decoding of base64 and other
> encoding?

I'm asking if there are other Thunderbird add-ons in existence
which implement one of the features listed above.

To put it differently, what are the alternatives to Mnenhy?

I'll try reaching out to Karsten Düsterloh.

Regards.

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Re: akalla version 2.46 issues

[Jonathan N. Little]

Mason83 wrote:
> On 21/11/2016 23:50, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
> 
>> Mason83 wrote:
>>
>>> Are you aware of other extensions which provide these features:
>>>
>>> 1) Message-ID Search
>>> 2) Display Custom Headers/X-Faces (I can live without that)
>>> 3) inline decoding of base64
>>
>> Such as?
> 
> Such as what?
> 

I did  think it was too obscure a question but okay:

Q: What other extensions which provide these features: Message-ID,
search, display custom headers, inline decoding of base64 and other
encoding?

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Re: akalla version 2.46 issues

[Mason83]

On 22/11/2016 05:02, Petr Voralek wrote:
>Hello!
> 
>   On Sunday, 20.11.2016 20:44(+0100) *Mason83* wrote, and I quote (in part):
> 
>> 2) When I display an email or NG message, the header pane was empty.
>> Removing the Mnenhy add-on seems to have fixed that.
>> Will try reinstalling.
> 
>   I had similar problems, read this thread:
> 
> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/mozilla.support.seamonkey/SH34G6siFEE/discussion
> 
>   TLDR: Mnenhy version 0.8.6.1.2-stanio work for me...
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mozilla.support.seamonkey/SH34G6siFEE/x4MVu45OBAAJ

Thanks for bringing my attention to the
"Replacement for addons (SM 2.46)" thread.

The message you reference points to
https://www.mozdev.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=26256#c2

www.mozdev.org uses an invalid security certificate.
The certificate expired on 2016-11-11 19:39
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Re: akalla version 2.46 issues

[Mason83]

On 21/11/2016 23:50, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

> Mason83 wrote:
>
>> Are you aware of other extensions which provide these features:
>>
>> 1) Message-ID Search
>> 2) Display Custom Headers/X-Faces (I can live without that)
>> 3) inline decoding of base64
> 
> Such as?

Such as what?

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Re: akalla version 2.46 issues

[Petr Voralek]

   Hello!

  On Sunday, 20.11.2016 20:44(+0100) *Mason83* wrote, and I quote (in part):

> 2) When I display an email or NG message, the header pane was empty.
> Removing the Mnenhy add-on seems to have fixed that.
> Will try reinstalling.

  I had similar problems, read this thread:

https://groups.google.com/d/topic/mozilla.support.seamonkey/SH34G6siFEE/discussion

  TLDR: Mnenhy version 0.8.6.1.2-stanio work for me...
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mozilla.support.seamonkey/SH34G6siFEE/x4MVu45OBAAJ

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Re: akalla version 2.46 issues

[Jonathan N. Little]

Mason83 wrote:
> On 20/11/2016 21:57, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:


>>
>> Mnenhy is incompatible with 2.46. The author no longer seems to update the 
>> add-on. 
>> Nothing we can do about it because of changes in the backend.
> 
> Are you aware of other extensions which provide these features:
> 
> 1) Message-ID Search
> 2) Display Custom Headers/X-Faces (I can live without that)
> 3) inline decoding of base64

Such as?


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Re: akalla version 2.46 issues

[Mason83]

On 20/11/2016 21:57, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

> On Sun, 20 Nov 2016 20:44:29 +0100, Mason83 wrote:
> 
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I'm trying out this version:
>>> https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows32/seamonkey-2.46.en-US.win32.installer.exe
>>>
>>> Issues:
>>>
>>> 1) I was using the StartPage search engine for searches done directly
>>> in the location bar. It now goes to duckduckgo.
> 
> Setting the default search engine no longer works. Its gone and always 
> mirrors the 
> current search engine. This is a known problem and tracked in Bug 1265881:
> 
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1265881
> 
> Check the bug for a workaround.

Selecting the Search engine in the Side bar works.
URL search now uses StartPage. Thanks!

>>> 2) When I display an email or NG message, the header pane was empty.
>>> Removing the Mnenhy add-on seems to have fixed that.
>>> Will try reinstalling.
> 
> Mnenhy is incompatible with 2.46. The author no longer seems to update the 
> add-on. 
> Nothing we can do about it because of changes in the backend.

Are you aware of other extensions which provide these features:

1) Message-ID Search
2) Display Custom Headers/X-Faces (I can live without that)
3) inline decoding of base64

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Re: akalla version 2.46 issues

[cmcadams]

Delete all the search engines in the pick list but the one you want. That becomes 
your new default.


If this bug is ever fixed, Restore Defaults will restore all choices, so nothing 
irreversible.



Mason83 wrote:

On 20/11/2016 20:44, Mason83 wrote:

1) I was using the StartPage search engine for searches done directly
in the location bar. It now goes to duckduckgo.


I used
keyword.URL = https://startpage.com/do/search?language=english=web=

This is no longer supported?

browser.search.defaultenginename = Startpage


browser.search.order.1 = DuckDuckGo (default val)
=> Changing that has no influence...

How to get the old behavior back?

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Re: akalla version 2.46 issues

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

On Sun, 20 Nov 2016 20:44:29 +0100, Mason83 wrote:

>>Hello,
>>
>>I'm trying out this version:
>>https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-c
omm-release-windows32/seamonkey-2.46.en-US.win32.installer.exe
>>
>>Issues:
>>
>>1) I was using the StartPage search engine for searches done directly
>>in the location bar. It now goes to duckduckgo.

Setting the default search engine no longer works. Its gone and always mirrors 
the 
current search engine. This is a known problem and tracked in Bug 1265881:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1265881

Check the bug for a workaround. 

>>2) When I display an email or NG message, the header pane was empty.
>>Removing the Mnenhy add-on seems to have fixed that.
>>Will try reinstalling.

Mnenhy is incompatible with 2.46. The author no longer seems to update the 
add-on. 
Nothing we can do about it because of changes in the backend.

FRG

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Re: akalla version 2.46 issues

[Gérard]

On 11/20/2016 09:13 PM, Mason83 wrote:

On 20/11/2016 20:44, Mason83 wrote:

1) I was using the StartPage search engine for searches done directly
in the location bar. It now goes to duckduckgo.


I used
keyword.URL = https://startpage.com/do/search?language=english=web=

This is no longer supported?

browser.search.defaultenginename = Startpage


browser.search.order.1 = DuckDuckGo (default val)
=> Changing that has no influence...

How to get the old behavior back?




https://www.startpage.com/blog/ixquick/how-the-yahoo-hack-impacts-you-even-if-you-dont-have-a-yahoo-account-and-how-to-get-safe-again/#hmb





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Re: akalla version 2.46 issues

[Mason83]

On 20/11/2016 20:44, Mason83 wrote:
> 1) I was using the StartPage search engine for searches done directly
> in the location bar. It now goes to duckduckgo.

I used
keyword.URL = https://startpage.com/do/search?language=english=web=

This is no longer supported?

browser.search.defaultenginename = Startpage


browser.search.order.1 = DuckDuckGo (default val)
=> Changing that has no influence...

How to get the old behavior back?

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Re: akalla version 2.46 issues

[Mason83]

On 20/11/2016 20:50, Mason83 wrote:
> On 20/11/2016 20:47, Mason83 wrote:
>> On 20/11/2016 20:44, Mason83 wrote:
>>
>>> 2) When I display an email or NG message, the header pane was empty.
>>> Removing the Mnenhy add-on seems to have fixed that.
>>> Will try reinstalling.
>>
>> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/mnenhy/
>>
>> Breaks the header pane...
>>
>> Incompatible with Lightning?
> 
> Disabling Lightning doesn't help :-(
> 
> Maybe Mnenhy is just not compatible with SM 2.46?
> 
> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/mnenhy/
> says Works with Thunderbird 3.0 - 29.0a1
> 
> If anyone is using that extension on SM 2.46 or higher,
> I'm all ears.

Last Updated: February 25, 2014

Probably broken by the upgrade tread-mill :-(

I used it for Message-ID Search and Custom Headers/X-Faces.

Any other extension supporting those features?

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Re: akalla version 2.46 issues

[Gérard]

On 11/20/2016 08:44 PM, Mason83 wrote:

Hello,

I'm trying out this version:
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows32/seamonkey-2.46.en-US.win32.installer.exe

Issues:

1) I was using the StartPage search engine for searches done directly
in the location bar. It now goes to duckduckgo.

2) When I display an email or NG message, the header pane was empty.
Removing the Mnenhy add-on seems to have fixed that.
Will try reinstalling.

Regards.



put http://google.es in your task bar and bookmark it

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Re: akalla version 2.46 issues

[Mason83]

On 20/11/2016 20:47, Mason83 wrote:
> On 20/11/2016 20:44, Mason83 wrote:
> 
>> 2) When I display an email or NG message, the header pane was empty.
>> Removing the Mnenhy add-on seems to have fixed that.
>> Will try reinstalling.
> 
> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/mnenhy/
> 
> Breaks the header pane...
> 
> Incompatible with Lightning?

Disabling Lightning doesn't help :-(

Maybe Mnenhy is just not compatible with SM 2.46?

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/mnenhy/
says Works with Thunderbird 3.0 - 29.0a1

If anyone is using that extension on SM 2.46 or higher,
I'm all ears.

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Re: akalla version 2.46 issues

[Mason83]

On 20/11/2016 20:44, Mason83 wrote:

> 2) When I display an email or NG message, the header pane was empty.
> Removing the Mnenhy add-on seems to have fixed that.
> Will try reinstalling.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/mnenhy/

Breaks the header pane...

Incompatible with Lightning?

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akalla version 2.46 issues

[Mason83]

Hello,

I'm trying out this version:
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows32/seamonkey-2.46.en-US.win32.installer.exe

Issues:

1) I was using the StartPage search engine for searches done directly
in the location bar. It now goes to duckduckgo.

2) When I display an email or NG message, the header pane was empty.
Removing the Mnenhy add-on seems to have fixed that.
Will try reinstalling.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.39 beta GTK3 issues

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WaltS48 wrote:

On 10/09/2015 07:01 AM, Daniel wrote:

Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote:

On Thu, 8 Oct 2015 17:45:06 +1100, Daniel <dan...@albury.net.spam.au>
wrote:


On 8/10/2015 5:42 PM, Daniel wrote:

On 8/10/2015 5:26 PM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Hi,

Just wondering if anyone has encountered any issues with
the GTK3 built version of 2.39.

TB and Firefox backed out the necessary manifests[1] in order
to build with gtk3 and I'm wondering if it's necessary
for us to follow suite.

Edmund

[1] - https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1207310


Thank you,ewong, for reminding me to check for new betas!!


Hmm! Cannot see 2.39 listed on
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/


Maybe here:
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/

- Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP]


I thought nightly's were pre-alpha!




I thought Nightlies were alpha, aurora is beta, beta is release
candidate and release usually ticks off a portion of users.

Hmm! What would I know?? I thought aurora was SeaMonkey/Mozilla speak 
for Alpha!


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.39 beta GTK3 issues

[Exalm]

Adrian Kalla пишет:

At the end we have some annoying GTK3 issues that somehow do hit just us
and not Fx mentioned in the thread "2.40a1 missing scrollbar indicator
arrow buttons": <prodntuuf79h5w7inz2dnuu7-qwdn...@mozilla.org>

They aren't displayed because certain (although most) GTK3 themes 
request not to display them.
On Firefox that's expected behavior, but on SM there's also Modern 
theme, which should display them even in that case.


Other issues don't hit Fx because they use much less native styling, so 
the issues (such as the bugged tabs) just aren't visible as much as they 
are on SM.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.39 beta GTK3 issues

[Daniel]

Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote:

On Thu, 8 Oct 2015 17:45:06 +1100, Daniel <dan...@albury.net.spam.au>
wrote:


On 8/10/2015 5:42 PM, Daniel wrote:

On 8/10/2015 5:26 PM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Hi,

Just wondering if anyone has encountered any issues with
the GTK3 built version of 2.39.

TB and Firefox backed out the necessary manifests[1] in order
to build with gtk3 and I'm wondering if it's necessary
for us to follow suite.

Edmund

[1] - https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1207310


Thank you,ewong, for reminding me to check for new betas!!


Hmm! Cannot see 2.39 listed on
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/


Maybe here:
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/

- Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP]


I thought nightly's were pre-alpha!

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.39 beta GTK3 issues

[Daniel]

Adrian Kalla wrote:

W dniu 10/09/2015 o 05:26 AM, Adrian Kalla pisze:

W dniu 10/08/2015 o 08:45 AM, Daniel pisze:

Hmm! Cannot see 2.39 listed on
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/


Hmmm, maybe ewong was talking about self-compiled builds?
Or mine that I post here:
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/


Or the tinderbox builds here:
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/tinderbox-builds/comm-beta-linux/


Ah!! Right.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.39 beta GTK3 issues

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On 10/09/2015 07:01 AM, Daniel wrote:

Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote:

On Thu, 8 Oct 2015 17:45:06 +1100, Daniel <dan...@albury.net.spam.au>
wrote:


On 8/10/2015 5:42 PM, Daniel wrote:

On 8/10/2015 5:26 PM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Hi,

Just wondering if anyone has encountered any issues with
the GTK3 built version of 2.39.

TB and Firefox backed out the necessary manifests[1] in order
to build with gtk3 and I'm wondering if it's necessary
for us to follow suite.

Edmund

[1] - https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1207310


Thank you,ewong, for reminding me to check for new betas!!


Hmm! Cannot see 2.39 listed on
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/


Maybe here:
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/

- Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP]


I thought nightly's were pre-alpha!




I thought Nightlies were alpha, aurora is beta, beta is release 
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.39 beta GTK3 issues

[Exalm]

Edmund Wong пишет:

Hi,

Just wondering if anyone has encountered any issues with
the GTK3 built version of 2.39.

TB and Firefox backed out the necessary manifests[1] in order
to build with gtk3 and I'm wondering if it's necessary
for us to follow suite.

Edmund

[1] - https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1207310

Yes. See "2.40a1 missing scrollbar indicator arrow buttons" thread, all 
these issues are also applicable to 2.39.

Basically:
1. Active tab is invisible on some themes.
2. Scrollbar arrows don't display borders, and most GTK3 themes don't 
display them at all.
3. GTK theme switching is completely broken, you'll have to restart SM 
every time.


Another issue isn't mentioned there: ThreeDShadow and ThreeDHighlight 
colors are same, so all themes that heavily use them (basically all 
Default-based themes) are broken.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.39 beta GTK3 issues

[Daniel]

On 8/10/2015 5:26 PM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Hi,

Just wondering if anyone has encountered any issues with
the GTK3 built version of 2.39.

TB and Firefox backed out the necessary manifests[1] in order
to build with gtk3 and I'm wondering if it's necessary
for us to follow suite.

Edmund

[1] - https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1207310


Thank you,ewong, for reminding me to check for new betas!!

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