date:20150306

Hi: I might be getting ome pitch change in Eloquence for caps but nothing
that jumps out at me and I don't think much better than the free synth I was
dissatisfied with.

I fired up jaws, using eloquence from what I have heard, and the pitch, and
perhaps the volume of capitalized letters and words was significantly better
and diferent tonally.

So I am leaning twoard the fact that this is controlled by windoweyes and
that the settings are not very good.

How do I increase the pitch and, or, volume of cap letters when reading
either by letter, word or even in read to end to something that is obvious
and perhaps the tone as well.

Rick usa

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WindowEyes Not Speaking first letter of words

When right arrowing over characters in a sentence if I move quickly with the
right arrow key, the first letter of a word is not spoken if the prior
character is a space. If I go more slowly it is spoken.

How do I fix this problem?

It almost sounds like windoweyes is not clearing the speech buffer fast
enough upon a keyboard interrupt - is that a vbscript function or is there a
setting someplace I can tweak?

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Re: window-eyes 9.1

2015-03-06 Thread brendoncdono...@icloud.com via Talk

Hi, window eyes nine does not support Windows XP or the web under Windows 
XP.use it and install it under Windows XP at your own risk.thanks.

Warm Regards, Brendon Donohue

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Hi, kindly advise is window-eyes 9.1 able to support web sites using flash? is 
xp supported as well? thanks
Best Regards
Hui Thian
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Caps Pitch Control

Hi Steve: There should be a way to control the pitch change for capital
letters me thinks.

I havent found it in WindowEyes Settings yet though.

Some speech operations are still slightly sluggish even with Eloquence which
I have to attribute to WindowEyes itself from past experience.

That said I am asking about how to improve the speech settings including the
pitch change for capitalization - I am pretty sure that is doable but not
sure WindowEyes has a setting to do it, we will see.

I just dropped 40 bucks to get Eloquence so I hope WindowEyes takes
advantage of its feature set.

The slight lag times are annoying but not so bad that I will dump WindowEyes
all be it I am disapointed so far with WindowEyes performance with a hot
synth like Eloquence.

But, as mentioned, I will ask on list how to tweak settings to see if I can
get things working well enough to not be a constant hassle using WindowEyes.

Wish I could have given WindowEyes and Eloquence a glowing congratulations
out of the box but it is what it is.

Rick USA

 

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wlm and 9.1

Hi, 
The number of unread messages isn’t read and then in the message list it no 
longer telles you if a message has been read or unread?
Tony
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RE: Right Arrow Problem in WE 9.1

What program are you in?
If on a web site, what  browser?
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On Behalf Of Dave Basden via Talk
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 5:19 PM
To: cov...@ccs.covici.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Right Arrow Problem in WE 9.1

My right arrow is set to read prior character after.  When I move to 
the beginning of a line and press right arrow, I get a beep.  It 
takes a second press to actually move and read the first character on 
the line.  This did not happen in WE 9.0 or any earlier version.

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Re: wlm and 9.1

Tony,

The status is reading fine for me in my Windows Live Mail and I've not 
heard of this being a problem.  Are you sure you have that column 
enabled in Windows Live Mail itself?

As for the count, yes, this did regress.  I'm sure we can do something 
in the Windows Live Mail app to clean this up.  We just need a chance to 
get to it.

Doug

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> Hi,
> The number of unread messages isn’t read and then in the message list it no 
> longer telles you if a message has been read or unread?
> Tony
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repeating lines in documents when reading fast

2015-03-06 Thread Dave Bahr via Talk

Hey, anyone else with we 9.1 getting a repetition of text when down 
arrowing through a document in, say, q-read? I read at about 600wpm but 
I was wondering if it was a speed issue or just something else.

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RE: Setting up the capital pitch

Hi: just went through the we control panel and did not find a place to set
the pitch of capital letters up any percentage.
Is this done in some script or where do I set  it?
rick
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Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 7:13 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: Setting up the capital pitch

Hi: I might be getting ome pitch change in Eloquence for caps but nothing
that jumps out at me and I don't think much better than the free synth I was
dissatisfied with.

I fired up jaws, using eloquence from what I have heard, and the pitch, and
perhaps the volume of capitalized letters and words was significantly better
and diferent tonally.

So I am leaning twoard the fact that this is controlled by windoweyes and
that the settings are not very good.

How do I increase the pitch and, or, volume of cap letters when reading
either by letter, word or even in read to end to something that is obvious
and perhaps the tone as well.

Rick usa

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Re: wlm and 9.1


Hi Doug,
I haven't changed anything. I just downloaded the 9.1 this morning and when 
I opened WLM after doing so. As I arrow down the list of messages it no 
longer read anything but the subject of each message.

Tony

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Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 7:25 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: wlm and 9.1

Tony,

The status is reading fine for me in my Windows Live Mail and I've not
heard of this being a problem.  Are you sure you have that column
enabled in Windows Live Mail itself?

As for the count, yes, this did regress.  I'm sure we can do something
in the Windows Live Mail app to clean this up.  We just need a chance to
get to it.

Doug


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Hi,
The number of unread messages isn’t read and then in the message list it 
no longer telles you if a message has been read or unread?

Tony
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RE: Caps Pitch Control

Hi Rick,

It is not possible to change the level of pitch for capital letters.  

We offer the 60 day evaluation  version so people can have access to everything 
Window-eyes has to offer, including the premium synthesizers.

If the pitch  change isn't enough, perhaps installing the third party cap 
beeper app.

https://www.gwmicro.com/App_Central/Apps/Download/?scriptid=1216

This makes a beep  when you move across a capital letter.  You can even  use a 
different sound if you don't like the beep the author included.

Thanks,
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On Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 8:02 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: Caps Pitch Control

Hi Steve: There should be a way to control the pitch change for capital
letters me thinks.

I havent found it in WindowEyes Settings yet though.

Some speech operations are still slightly sluggish even with Eloquence which
I have to attribute to WindowEyes itself from past experience.

That said I am asking about how to improve the speech settings including the
pitch change for capitalization - I am pretty sure that is doable but not
sure WindowEyes has a setting to do it, we will see.

I just dropped 40 bucks to get Eloquence so I hope WindowEyes takes
advantage of its feature set.

The slight lag times are annoying but not so bad that I will dump WindowEyes
all be it I am disapointed so far with WindowEyes performance with a hot
synth like Eloquence.

But, as mentioned, I will ask on list how to tweak settings to see if I can
get things working well enough to not be a constant hassle using WindowEyes.

Wish I could have given WindowEyes and Eloquence a glowing congratulations
out of the box but it is what it is.

Rick USA

 

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Re: wlm and 9.1

Ok, just for shits and giggles I went to view, layout and changed it over to 
one line view and it reads me all the info again, actually a better setup 
than before. Just instead of using two line view you must select one line 
view.

Tony

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From: Doug Geoffray via Talk

Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 7:25 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: wlm and 9.1

Tony,

The status is reading fine for me in my Windows Live Mail and I've not
heard of this being a problem.  Are you sure you have that column
enabled in Windows Live Mail itself?

As for the count, yes, this did regress.  I'm sure we can do something
in the Windows Live Mail app to clean this up.  We just need a chance to
get to it.

Doug


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Hi,
The number of unread messages isn’t read and then in the message list it 
no longer telles you if a message has been read or unread?

Tony
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RE: How do you turn off chromevox?

ChromeVox-A twice.

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On Behalf Of Andre via Talk
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 4:43 PM
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Subject: How do you turn off chromevox?

I haven't tried chrome for very long  but just wanted to try it out. So how
do I turn off chromevox? Is there a way to do that or do I have to uninstall
or unload it from extension settings? I don't want my WE 9 eloquence being
interfered withby the chromevox voice.

 

Much thanks,

 

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RE: wlm and 9.1

Tony,
What version of Windows are you running?
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Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 8:50 AM
To: Doug Geoffray; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: wlm and 9.1

Hi Doug,
I haven't changed anything. I just downloaded the 9.1 this morning and when 
I opened WLM after doing so. As I arrow down the list of messages it no 
longer read anything but the subject of each message.
Tony

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From: Doug Geoffray via Talk
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 7:25 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: wlm and 9.1

Tony,

The status is reading fine for me in my Windows Live Mail and I've not
heard of this being a problem.  Are you sure you have that column
enabled in Windows Live Mail itself?

As for the count, yes, this did regress.  I'm sure we can do something
in the Windows Live Mail app to clean this up.  We just need a chance to
get to it.

Doug

On 3/6/2015 8:15 AM, tchild via Talk wrote:
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> The number of unread messages isn’t read and then in the message list it 
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> Tony
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RE: Caps Pitch Control

Hi Chris: OK so WindowEyes cant set the cap pitch as can other screen
readers.
This is not a good thing.
I will try the beeper script but I don't like running ever more and more vb
scripts just to have basic screen reader functions available.
I will let you know how it turns out.
Rick USA

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From: Chris Grabowski [mailto:cgrabow...@aisquared.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 8:50 AM
To: Rick Thomas; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: Caps Pitch Control

Hi Rick,

It is not possible to change the level of pitch for capital letters.  

We offer the 60 day evaluation  version so people can have access to
everything Window-eyes has to offer, including the premium synthesizers.

If the pitch  change isn't enough, perhaps installing the third party cap
beeper app.

https://www.gwmicro.com/App_Central/Apps/Download/?scriptid=1216

This makes a beep  when you move across a capital letter.  You can even  use
a different sound if you don't like the beep the author included.

Thanks,
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Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 8:02 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: Caps Pitch Control

Hi Steve: There should be a way to control the pitch change for capital
letters me thinks.

I havent found it in WindowEyes Settings yet though.

Some speech operations are still slightly sluggish even with Eloquence which
I have to attribute to WindowEyes itself from past experience.

That said I am asking about how to improve the speech settings including the
pitch change for capitalization - I am pretty sure that is doable but not
sure WindowEyes has a setting to do it, we will see.

I just dropped 40 bucks to get Eloquence so I hope WindowEyes takes
advantage of its feature set.

The slight lag times are annoying but not so bad that I will dump WindowEyes
all be it I am disapointed so far with WindowEyes performance with a hot
synth like Eloquence.

But, as mentioned, I will ask on list how to tweak settings to see if I can
get things working well enough to not be a constant hassle using WindowEyes.

Wish I could have given WindowEyes and Eloquence a glowing congratulations
out of the box but it is what it is.

Rick USA

 

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Re: window-eyes 9.1

Hui,

Assuming the Flash itself is accessible (most Flash is not) it is 
supported out of browse mode.

As for XP we do not go out of our way to block it in 9.0 or 9.1 but we 
also do not support it or test with it.  Meaning use at your own risk 
but to be honest, from the feedback I've been hearing it still works as 
it did.  But again, our support department will not provide any support 
for XP.  Likely XP will be blocked at some point.

Doug

On 3/6/2015 6:26 AM, hui thian via Talk wrote:
> Hi, kindly advise is window-eyes 9.1 able to support web sites using flash? 
> is xp supported as well? thanks
> Best Regards
> Hui Thian
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Re: Grate Job AI Squared!!!

Dennis,

We are continuing to work with Google as most of the Chrome issues we 
know about need to be resolved on the Chrome side itself.  We have great 
communication with Google and they are very eager to resolve the 
issues.  So this is certainly a work in progress.  The issues that we 
have found and reported are not unique to Window-Eyes.

Doug

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> Hi, I just wanted to thank the AI Squared staff for a grate job. I 
> would love to see continued Chrome Support and that Thunder Bird Bug I 
> reported fixed.  That being said this is by far one of the best 
> versions you have created Chrome support just gives us another option 
> for browsing the web which is absolutely fantastic!!  Thanks for all 
> you do.
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RE: Caps Pitch Control

I have the caps beeper working. It is too loud and giving me a headache
after only a few minutes of beeping.
It is better than your other option of saying the word cap and not reading
the following letter without a significant lag.
I did not see a way to turn down the volume of the beep, is there one?
None of this carp would be necessary if WindowEyes just handled
capitalization pitch settings properly as other screen readers do.
So how do I turn down the beep compared to the we speech?
If I can turn it down a bunch it might be acceptible all be it a work-around
rather than fixing the problem correctly.
Rick USA
-Original Message-
From: Chris Grabowski [mailto:cgrabow...@aisquared.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 8:50 AM
To: Rick Thomas; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: Caps Pitch Control

Hi Rick,

It is not possible to change the level of pitch for capital letters.  

We offer the 60 day evaluation  version so people can have access to
everything Window-eyes has to offer, including the premium synthesizers.

If the pitch  change isn't enough, perhaps installing the third party cap
beeper app.

https://www.gwmicro.com/App_Central/Apps/Download/?scriptid=1216

This makes a beep  when you move across a capital letter.  You can even  use
a different sound if you don't like the beep the author included.

Thanks,
Chris


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(802) 362-3612
www.aisquared.com

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 8:02 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: Caps Pitch Control

Hi Steve: There should be a way to control the pitch change for capital
letters me thinks.

I havent found it in WindowEyes Settings yet though.

Some speech operations are still slightly sluggish even with Eloquence which
I have to attribute to WindowEyes itself from past experience.

That said I am asking about how to improve the speech settings including the
pitch change for capitalization - I am pretty sure that is doable but not
sure WindowEyes has a setting to do it, we will see.

I just dropped 40 bucks to get Eloquence so I hope WindowEyes takes
advantage of its feature set.

The slight lag times are annoying but not so bad that I will dump WindowEyes
all be it I am disapointed so far with WindowEyes performance with a hot
synth like Eloquence.

But, as mentioned, I will ask on list how to tweak settings to see if I can
get things working well enough to not be a constant hassle using WindowEyes.

Wish I could have given WindowEyes and Eloquence a glowing congratulations
out of the box but it is what it is.

Rick USA

 

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RE: Caps Pitch Control

2015-03-06 Thread gosselin_louis via Talk

I, too, have found that the elevation of the voice pitch was unsatisfactory,
but it's also true that the elevation of the pitch seems to depend on which
letter is the one  capitalized.  I'm sure that somewhere in the lines of
code that controls the synthesizer, there has to have been a parameter that
causes the pitch to shift, so it has to be possible to change that
parameter.  Perhaps it would take the owners of Eloquence to do it, but I'm
betting it wouldn't take a whole lot of effort to accomplish it.  Do you
think it might be worth writing to them?  Maybe there's even something the
end-user might access with some direction from the company.  You never know
for sure unless you ask.

Louis Gosselin



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From: Talk
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On Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 9:12 AM
To: 'Chris Grabowski'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Caps Pitch Control

Hi Chris: OK so WindowEyes cant set the cap pitch as can other screen
readers.
This is not a good thing.
I will try the beeper script but I don't like running ever more and more vb
scripts just to have basic screen reader functions available.
I will let you know how it turns out.
Rick USA

-Original Message-
From: Chris Grabowski [mailto:cgrabow...@aisquared.com]
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 8:50 AM
To: Rick Thomas; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: Caps Pitch Control

Hi Rick,

It is not possible to change the level of pitch for capital letters.

We offer the 60 day evaluation  version so people can have access to
everything Window-eyes has to offer, including the premium synthesizers.

If the pitch  change isn't enough, perhaps installing the third party cap
beeper app.

https://www.gwmicro.com/App_Central/Apps/Download/?scriptid=1216

This makes a beep  when you move across a capital letter.  You can even  use
a different sound if you don't like the beep the author included.

Thanks,
Chris


Window-Eyes Product Support
Ai Squared
725 Airport North Office Park
Fort Wayne, IN 46825
(802) 362-3612
www.aisquared.com

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 8:02 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: Caps Pitch Control

Hi Steve: There should be a way to control the pitch change for capital
letters me thinks.

I havent found it in WindowEyes Settings yet though.

Some speech operations are still slightly sluggish even with Eloquence which
I have to attribute to WindowEyes itself from past experience.

That said I am asking about how to improve the speech settings including the
pitch change for capitalization - I am pretty sure that is doable but not
sure WindowEyes has a setting to do it, we will see.

I just dropped 40 bucks to get Eloquence so I hope WindowEyes takes
advantage of its feature set.

The slight lag times are annoying but not so bad that I will dump WindowEyes
all be it I am disapointed so far with WindowEyes performance with a hot
synth like Eloquence.

But, as mentioned, I will ask on list how to tweak settings to see if I can
get things working well enough to not be a constant hassle using WindowEyes.

Wish I could have given WindowEyes and Eloquence a glowing congratulations
out of the box but it is what it is.

Rick USA



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Re: window-eyes 9.1

2015-03-06 Thread hui thian via Talk

hi, thanks my company is still not upgrading my pc for me so I hope that 
they will upgrade my pc soon. by the way so for web side with flash, we are 
not able to work on it? thanks
- Original Message - 
From: "Doug Geoffray via Talk" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 10:20 PM
Subject: Re: window-eyes 9.1

Hui,

Assuming the Flash itself is accessible (most Flash is not) it is
supported out of browse mode.

As for XP we do not go out of our way to block it in 9.0 or 9.1 but we
also do not support it or test with it.  Meaning use at your own risk
but to be honest, from the feedback I've been hearing it still works as
it did.  But again, our support department will not provide any support
for XP.  Likely XP will be blocked at some point.

Doug

On 3/6/2015 6:26 AM, hui thian via Talk wrote:
Hi, kindly advise is window-eyes 9.1 able to support web sites using 
flash? is xp supported as well? thanks

Best Regards
Hui Thian
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RE: Caps Pitch Control

Hi Chris: You are right about the 60 day eval. I should have known better.
At least WindowEyes is pretty much free so I am not out more than the price
of the synth.
Later and thanks for the honest replies.
Rick USA

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RE: Getting Eloquence

Hi and thanks. I llistened to it, downloaded the word doc, turned off the
protected mode and saved it to test file.
Then I went through it one step at a time tweaking each step according to my
situation and managed to get Eloquence installed.
To my dismay the problem appears to be related to WindowEyes and not to the
synth.
Since I am out of the 60 day free trial I am out 40 bucks and will have to
rely on the beeper app someone, Vick I think, created to uplift the
WindowEyes failure of using a pitch change to indicate capitalization - that
is there is no way  to increase capital pitch in WindowEyes.
Anyway, I finally got Eloquence installed after jumping through all the
hoops but it appears a waste due to how WindowEyes interacts with it.
Rick USA

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ofbgmail=mi.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Marc Solomon via Talk
Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2015 9:23 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Getting Eloquence

Rick,
There is a step by step tutorial on the entire process of purchasing and
adding a new speech synthesizer here:
http://www.windoweyesforoffice.com/Voices/Tutorial/. There are video, audio
and text versions. I hope this helps
Regards,
Marc Solomon
Ai Squared 
GW Micro is now part of the Ai Squared family!

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On March 5, 2015 4:16:40 AM Rick Thomas via Talk
 wrote:

> Hi I just peeked at getting it online.
>
> I added it to my cart and was told I needed to enter my serial number
before
> clicking continue button.
>
> Ok, it told me to look at the about item under the we help menu but it is
> the general gwoffice code serial number.
>
> as noted on some other page,  I think, I will need to do something else to
> get a valid serial number prior to doing this I guess.
>
> Do I click register under the help menu to get a valid serial number?
>
> Or will, I think someone mentioned a few weeks ago, windoweyes send me one
> sometime during the process after I enter, what in the serial number field
> before clicking the continue button during the buy process online?
>
> Or did I miss an entire step in the process.
>
> Rick usa
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RE: Caps Pitch Control

Hi Louis: You are right about individual letters being more and less
recognizible as caps via pitch in WindowEyes.
I am not sure if the cap pitch is a standard feature of a synth but I know
both jaws and NVDA have settings to adjust the cap pitch up or down.
They also have 0 lag time for this feature as far as I can tell.
I am currently using the beeper visual basic script developed by some user
who also likely had this problem with WindowEyes.
It is not a good solution but the best work-around for this WindowEyes
problem I have found so far.
There might be a way to script an actual pitch change but I really don't
like using let alone createing  visual basic scripts to run on something I
want to be as high performing as my screen reader.
So unless Aaron and the guys get around to adding this to match NVDA and
JAWS features we areSOL.
Just use the beeper app and have allot of tylenol on hand.
If I can turn the volume downon the beep it might be ok but I sure don't
look forward to 10 hours a day of that noise while trying to do computer
design, programming and testing debugging while using camel casing variables
and objects.
 So that is the state of affairs as I find them so far.
I have other options for programming and have been using them in place of
WindowEyes more and more over the past year or so.
I had hoped for this and some other performance enhancements in the 9.1
release but it seems this feature was passed over by the AI Squared staff.
Rick USA

-Original Message-
From: gosselin_louis [mailto:gosselin_lo...@myfairpoint.net] 
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 9:44 AM
To: 'Rick Thomas'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'; 'Chris Grabowski'
Subject: RE: Caps Pitch Control

I, too, have found that the elevation of the voice pitch was unsatisfactory,
but it's also true that the elevation of the pitch seems to depend on which
letter is the one  capitalized.  I'm sure that somewhere in the lines of
code that controls the synthesizer, there has to have been a parameter that
causes the pitch to shift, so it has to be possible to change that
parameter.  Perhaps it would take the owners of Eloquence to do it, but I'm
betting it wouldn't take a whole lot of effort to accomplish it.  Do you
think it might be worth writing to them?  Maybe there's even something the
end-user might access with some direction from the company.  You never know
for sure unless you ask.

Louis Gosselin



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From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+gosselin_louis=myfairpoint@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 9:12 AM
To: 'Chris Grabowski'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Caps Pitch Control

Hi Chris: OK so WindowEyes cant set the cap pitch as can other screen
readers.
This is not a good thing.
I will try the beeper script but I don't like running ever more and more vb
scripts just to have basic screen reader functions available.
I will let you know how it turns out.
Rick USA

-Original Message-
From: Chris Grabowski [mailto:cgrabow...@aisquared.com]
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 8:50 AM
To: Rick Thomas; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: Caps Pitch Control

Hi Rick,

It is not possible to change the level of pitch for capital letters.

We offer the 60 day evaluation  version so people can have access to
everything Window-eyes has to offer, including the premium synthesizers.

If the pitch  change isn't enough, perhaps installing the third party cap
beeper app.

https://www.gwmicro.com/App_Central/Apps/Download/?scriptid=1216

This makes a beep  when you move across a capital letter.  You can even  use
a different sound if you don't like the beep the author included.

Thanks,
Chris


Window-Eyes Product Support
Ai Squared
725 Airport North Office Park
Fort Wayne, IN 46825
(802) 362-3612
www.aisquared.com

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 8:02 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: Caps Pitch Control

Hi Steve: There should be a way to control the pitch change for capital
letters me thinks.

I havent found it in WindowEyes Settings yet though.

Some speech operations are still slightly sluggish even with Eloquence which
I have to attribute to WindowEyes itself from past experience.

That said I am asking about how to improve the speech settings including the
pitch change for capitalization - I am pretty sure that is doable but not
sure WindowEyes has a setting to do it, we will see.

I just dropped 40 bucks to get Eloquence so I hope WindowEyes takes
advantage of its feature set.

The slight lag times are annoying but not so bad that I will dump WindowEyes
all be it I am disapointed so far with WindowEyes performance with a hot
synth like Eloquence.

But, as mentioned, I will ask on list how to tweak settings to see if I can
get things working well enough to not be a constant hassle using WindowEyes.

Wish

mousing and media buttons

2015-03-06 Thread Andre via Talk

Is there any possibility to add mouse support to chrome in the near future?
Plus I'd like to know what settings to activate in WE 9.1 for all browsers
(ie, ff, and chrome) so I can identify flash buttons or other play type
buttons? On too many pages, there are audios or videos I wouldn't even know
about if I I wasn't told was supposed to be there.

So far from what I can tell, the new browse mode or nonstatic buffer has a
disadvantage of not knowing when I should exit browse mode to try and tab to
the audio or video. Hopefully what I'm saying makes some sense.

Thanks,

Andre


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Re: Caps Pitch Control

2015-03-06 Thread Don H via Talk


If you use the Decaccess 32 syn you do have pitch for caps.

On 3/6/2015 9:18 AM, Rick Thomas via Talk wrote:

Hi Louis: You are right about individual letters being more and less
recognizible as caps via pitch in WindowEyes.
I am not sure if the cap pitch is a standard feature of a synth but I know
both jaws and NVDA have settings to adjust the cap pitch up or down.
They also have 0 lag time for this feature as far as I can tell.
I am currently using the beeper visual basic script developed by some user
who also likely had this problem with WindowEyes.
It is not a good solution but the best work-around for this WindowEyes
problem I have found so far.
There might be a way to script an actual pitch change but I really don't
like using let alone createing  visual basic scripts to run on something I
want to be as high performing as my screen reader.
So unless Aaron and the guys get around to adding this to match NVDA and
JAWS features we areSOL.
Just use the beeper app and have allot of tylenol on hand.
If I can turn the volume downon the beep it might be ok but I sure don't
look forward to 10 hours a day of that noise while trying to do computer
design, programming and testing debugging while using camel casing variables
and objects.
  So that is the state of affairs as I find them so far.
I have other options for programming and have been using them in place of
WindowEyes more and more over the past year or so.
I had hoped for this and some other performance enhancements in the 9.1
release but it seems this feature was passed over by the AI Squared staff.
Rick USA

-Original Message-
From: gosselin_louis [mailto:gosselin_lo...@myfairpoint.net]
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 9:44 AM
To: 'Rick Thomas'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'; 'Chris Grabowski'
Subject: RE: Caps Pitch Control

I, too, have found that the elevation of the voice pitch was unsatisfactory,
but it's also true that the elevation of the pitch seems to depend on which
letter is the one  capitalized.  I'm sure that somewhere in the lines of
code that controls the synthesizer, there has to have been a parameter that
causes the pitch to shift, so it has to be possible to change that
parameter.  Perhaps it would take the owners of Eloquence to do it, but I'm
betting it wouldn't take a whole lot of effort to accomplish it.  Do you
think it might be worth writing to them?  Maybe there's even something the
end-user might access with some direction from the company.  You never know
for sure unless you ask.

Louis Gosselin



-Original Message-
From: Talk
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On Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 9:12 AM
To: 'Chris Grabowski'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Caps Pitch Control

Hi Chris: OK so WindowEyes cant set the cap pitch as can other screen
readers.
This is not a good thing.
I will try the beeper script but I don't like running ever more and more vb
scripts just to have basic screen reader functions available.
I will let you know how it turns out.
Rick USA

-Original Message-
From: Chris Grabowski [mailto:cgrabow...@aisquared.com]
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 8:50 AM
To: Rick Thomas; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: Caps Pitch Control

Hi Rick,

It is not possible to change the level of pitch for capital letters.

We offer the 60 day evaluation  version so people can have access to
everything Window-eyes has to offer, including the premium synthesizers.

If the pitch  change isn't enough, perhaps installing the third party cap
beeper app.

https://www.gwmicro.com/App_Central/Apps/Download/?scriptid=1216

This makes a beep  when you move across a capital letter.  You can even  use
a different sound if you don't like the beep the author included.

Thanks,
Chris


Window-Eyes Product Support
Ai Squared
725 Airport North Office Park
Fort Wayne, IN 46825
(802) 362-3612
www.aisquared.com

-Original Message-
From: Talk
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Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 8:02 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: Caps Pitch Control

Hi Steve: There should be a way to control the pitch change for capital
letters me thinks.

I havent found it in WindowEyes Settings yet though.

Some speech operations are still slightly sluggish even with Eloquence which
I have to attribute to WindowEyes itself from past experience.

That said I am asking about how to improve the speech settings including the
pitch change for capitalization - I am pretty sure that is doable but not
sure WindowEyes has a setting to do it, we will see.

I just dropped 40 bucks to get Eloquence so I hope WindowEyes takes
advantage of its feature set.

The slight lag times are annoying but not so bad that I will dump WindowEyes
all be it I am disapointed so far with WindowEyes performance with a hot
synth like Eloquence.

But, as mentioned, I will ask on list how to t

Re: Caps Pitch Control

2015-03-06 Thread David via Talk


Rick,
Sorry. But if you don't want VBScripts, for whatever reason, remember 
that you can use any other Com-supporting scripting language for 
scripting WE. You state you are doing computer development, so should 
not be much for you to script what you want. The CapBeeper script - I do 
believe - even is open sourced, so you could easily look at how they 
have solved the issue, and transfer it into a scripting system you would 
so greatly accept.


If you just get yourself around it, it should be no trouble to make 
whatever pitch change you want. It even may be possible to change the 
actual Eloquence voice, that would be used for the capitals.


I just don't see what you expect to accomplish. If you are a developer, 
then develop your script the way you want it. If you don't, then stick 
with what apps are available. What in the world is so wrong with a tiny 
VBScript, only a few lines long? And if none of that serves, then I 
could suggest to install the GWAudiokit app, and script something that 
would make use of it, since that will let you adjust the volume of any 
beeping sounds your app is going to make.


Sorry, but there is not much other to provide you at this moment. If you 
want further scripting discussion, please take the issue to the 
Scripting list. You there might be able to pick up some good advice. 
Yet, they likely will ask you to start out with the CapBeeper anyway, if 
for nothing else, then at least to learn what is included.


I am sure, several of the developers of apps for WE would like to help 
you out. But most of us are doing VBScripting, and you so thouroughly 
have made it clear that you don't want VBScripts. In effect, you have 
blocked many of us from offering to compile something that could have 
helpd you out.


Again, I do not want to argue you. Simply just trying to point out to 
you, that you have been provided all current solutions. None of that 
served you, and I do understand that it would be great had WE offered 
some further settings in this regard. Hopefully AISquared could put that 
on the wishlist for furture releases. Meanwhile, if you want someone to 
assist with a script for the feature you are asking, take it to the 
Scripting list, and likely accept VBScripts. If you want, go ahead and 
construct your own script for the job. Inside an app, it is absolutely 
not difficult to adjust the pitch, of any voice that supports pitching. 
Eloquence is good in that regard, and like I said, you can even use one 
of the alternative Eloquence voices (like Sandy) for the purpose. It 
will provide a clearly distinct voice for the job. You then let it act 
upon any capital letter that is about to be spoken. In basic, what the 
CapBeeper is doing, just you change the voice instead of beeping. All of 
that is far too techie for this list, so go to the Scripting list for 
more details.


Hope you get a solution that serves your needs.

David

On 3/6/2015 4:18 PM, Rick Thomas via Talk wrote:

Hi Louis: You are right about individual letters being more and less
recognizible as caps via pitch in WindowEyes.
I am not sure if the cap pitch is a standard feature of a synth but I know
both jaws and NVDA have settings to adjust the cap pitch up or down.
They also have 0 lag time for this feature as far as I can tell.
I am currently using the beeper visual basic script developed by some user
who also likely had this problem with WindowEyes.
It is not a good solution but the best work-around for this WindowEyes
problem I have found so far.
There might be a way to script an actual pitch change but I really don't
like using let alone createing  visual basic scripts to run on something I
want to be as high performing as my screen reader.
So unless Aaron and the guys get around to adding this to match NVDA and
JAWS features we areSOL.
Just use the beeper app and have allot of tylenol on hand.
If I can turn the volume downon the beep it might be ok but I sure don't
look forward to 10 hours a day of that noise while trying to do computer
design, programming and testing debugging while using camel casing variables
and objects.
  So that is the state of affairs as I find them so far.
I have other options for programming and have been using them in place of
WindowEyes more and more over the past year or so.
I had hoped for this and some other performance enhancements in the 9.1
release but it seems this feature was passed over by the AI Squared staff.
Rick USA

-Original Message-
From: gosselin_louis [mailto:gosselin_lo...@myfairpoint.net]
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 9:44 AM
To: 'Rick Thomas'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'; 'Chris Grabowski'
Subject: RE: Caps Pitch Control

I, too, have found that the elevation of the voice pitch was unsatisfactory,
but it's also true that the elevation of the pitch seems to depend on which
letter is the one  capitalized.  I'm sure that somewhere in the lines of
code that controls the synthesizer, there has to have been a parameter that
causes the pitc

RE: Caps Pitch Control

Hi Don:
I see that is another synth that needs to be purchased from AI Squared.
Where to you find the settings to set the cap pitch rate?
It is not in the WindowEyes Control panel for any of the other synths I have
looked at.
Rick USA
-Original Message-
From: Don H [mailto:lmdd...@comcast.net] 
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 10:23 AM
To: Rick Thomas; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Caps Pitch Control

If you use the Decaccess 32 syn you do have pitch for caps.

On 3/6/2015 9:18 AM, Rick Thomas via Talk wrote:
> Hi Louis: You are right about individual letters being more and less
> recognizible as caps via pitch in WindowEyes.
> I am not sure if the cap pitch is a standard feature of a synth but I know
> both jaws and NVDA have settings to adjust the cap pitch up or down.
> They also have 0 lag time for this feature as far as I can tell.
> I am currently using the beeper visual basic script developed by some user
> who also likely had this problem with WindowEyes.
> It is not a good solution but the best work-around for this WindowEyes
> problem I have found so far.
> There might be a way to script an actual pitch change but I really don't
> like using let alone createing  visual basic scripts to run on something I
> want to be as high performing as my screen reader.
> So unless Aaron and the guys get around to adding this to match NVDA and
> JAWS features we areSOL.
> Just use the beeper app and have allot of tylenol on hand.
> If I can turn the volume downon the beep it might be ok but I sure don't
> look forward to 10 hours a day of that noise while trying to do computer
> design, programming and testing debugging while using camel casing
variables
> and objects.
>   So that is the state of affairs as I find them so far.
> I have other options for programming and have been using them in place of
> WindowEyes more and more over the past year or so.
> I had hoped for this and some other performance enhancements in the 9.1
> release but it seems this feature was passed over by the AI Squared staff.
> Rick USA
>
> -Original Message-
> From: gosselin_louis [mailto:gosselin_lo...@myfairpoint.net]
> Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 9:44 AM
> To: 'Rick Thomas'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'; 'Chris Grabowski'
> Subject: RE: Caps Pitch Control
>
> I, too, have found that the elevation of the voice pitch was
unsatisfactory,
> but it's also true that the elevation of the pitch seems to depend on
which
> letter is the one  capitalized.  I'm sure that somewhere in the lines of
> code that controls the synthesizer, there has to have been a parameter
that
> causes the pitch to shift, so it has to be possible to change that
> parameter.  Perhaps it would take the owners of Eloquence to do it, but
I'm
> betting it wouldn't take a whole lot of effort to accomplish it.  Do you
> think it might be worth writing to them?  Maybe there's even something the
> end-user might access with some direction from the company.  You never
know
> for sure unless you ask.
>
> Louis Gosselin
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+gosselin_louis=myfairpoint@lists.window-eyes.com]
> On Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk
> Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 9:12 AM
> To: 'Chris Grabowski'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: Caps Pitch Control
>
> Hi Chris: OK so WindowEyes cant set the cap pitch as can other screen
> readers.
> This is not a good thing.
> I will try the beeper script but I don't like running ever more and more
vb
> scripts just to have basic screen reader functions available.
> I will let you know how it turns out.
> Rick USA
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Grabowski [mailto:cgrabow...@aisquared.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 8:50 AM
> To: Rick Thomas; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: RE: Caps Pitch Control
>
> Hi Rick,
>
> It is not possible to change the level of pitch for capital letters.
>
> We offer the 60 day evaluation  version so people can have access to
> everything Window-eyes has to offer, including the premium synthesizers.
>
> If the pitch  change isn't enough, perhaps installing the third party cap
> beeper app.
>
> https://www.gwmicro.com/App_Central/Apps/Download/?scriptid=1216
>
> This makes a beep  when you move across a capital letter.  You can even
use
> a different sound if you don't like the beep the author included.
>
> Thanks,
> Chris
>
>
> Window-Eyes Product Support
> Ai Squared
> 725 Airport North Office Park
> Fort Wayne, IN 46825
> (802) 362-3612
> www.aisquared.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk
> Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 8:02 AM
> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
> Subject: Caps Pitch Control
>
> Hi Steve: There should be a way to control the pitch change for capital
> letters me thinks.
>
> I havent found it in WindowEyes Settings yet though.
>
> Some speech operations are still slightly sluggish

Re: wlm and 9.1

Usually the status of a message can be made to read by selecting the one line 
view in View, Layout.  This hasn't 
changed, though, so maybe you are experiencing another problem.  I am getting 
the status of the messages read with 
Window-eyes 9.1.0.0 so this isn't a universal problem with this version.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Fri, 6 Mar 2015 07:15:58 -0600, tchild via Talk wrote:

>Hi, 
>The number of unread messages isnâ¬"t read and then in the message list it no 
>longer telles you if a message has 
been read or unread?
>Tony
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RE: Caps Pitch Control

HiDavid:
That is not going to happen.
You are a hobbiest and as such think in terms of what you can do to make
something new that is "cool".
I find the word "cool" to be a four letter word so am not inclined to get
involved in hobbiest activities.
I expect a professional product to have professional level features and
operate as if professionals had developed it without me having to do their
programming for them - professionals get paid but hobbiests dont.
Rick USA

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RE: Caps Pitch Control

Rick,

While I agree with you that being able to increase the level of pitch on 
capital letters, I have found the pitch to 
be useable.  Sometimes the first lowercase after an uppercase letter has not 
returned to the lower pitch if I type 
it fast, but using the arrow keys to review it allows me to check for certain.  
When experimenting with other 
screen readers, I have found that setting the level two high seems to cause 
delays, or the pitch will be sliding 
down when I type the first lowercase letter after an uppercase letter.  I find 
that annoying as well.  I'm not 
convinced that the answer you are looking for is as perfect as you might think 
it is.  In addition, when a 
percentage is given by some screen readers, you are going to find that the 
percentage doesn't always mean much.  
Some synthesizers have only so many pitch settings that can be accessed.  
Therefore, you can find that changing 
from a 20% increase to a 25% increase doesn't do anything.  

Regarding Eloquence's responsiveness, I cannot type fast enough to get ahead of 
Eloquence.  It seems to me that 
there may still be another issue for you, or possibly a setting that can be 
changed.  Particularly on laptops, 
sound card settings can have an impact on the responsiveness of a synthesizer.  
It is usually recommended that you 
turn off any special processing that might be in effect on your sound card, 
including equalization.  However, on my 
HP laptop, there is a Beats Audio mode that tailors the sound for headphones or 
the internal speakers, and I don't 
notice any change in responsiveness whether that is on or off.  There can be a 
slower response of Window-Eyes in 
certain software and if certain other things are happening.  This is usually 
not connected to a specific 
synthesizer, though, and I've noticed some variability with the JAWS demo and 
NVDA as well.

Again, I'm not saying what you want isn't a good idea, but if you generally 
like Window-Eyes, I'm not sure that 
changing screen readers for the cap pitch adjustment will be as nice as you 
might think it is.  Also, there may 
still be things you can do to improve Eloquence's response.  

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Fri, 6 Mar 2015 09:12:21 -0500, Rick Thomas via Talk wrote:

>Hi Chris: OK so WindowEyes cant set the cap pitch as can other screen
>readers.
>This is not a good thing.
>I will try the beeper script but I don't like running ever more and more vb
>scripts just to have basic screen reader functions available.
>I will let you know how it turns out.
>Rick USA

>-Original Message-
>From: Chris Grabowski [mailto:cgrabow...@aisquared.com] 
>Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 8:50 AM
>To: Rick Thomas; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>Subject: RE: Caps Pitch Control

>Hi Rick,

>It is not possible to change the level of pitch for capital letters.  

>We offer the 60 day evaluation  version so people can have access to
>everything Window-eyes has to offer, including the premium synthesizers.

>If the pitch  change isn't enough, perhaps installing the third party cap
>beeper app.

>https://www.gwmicro.com/App_Central/Apps/Download/?scriptid=1216

>This makes a beep  when you move across a capital letter.  You can even  use
>a different sound if you don't like the beep the author included.

>Thanks,
>Chris

>Window-Eyes Product Support
>Ai Squared
>725 Airport North Office Park
>Fort Wayne, IN 46825
>(802) 362-3612
>www.aisquared.com

>-Original Message-
>From: Talk
>[mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On
>Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk
>Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 8:02 AM
>To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
>Subject: Caps Pitch Control

>Hi Steve: There should be a way to control the pitch change for capital
>letters me thinks.

>I havent found it in WindowEyes Settings yet though.

>Some speech operations are still slightly sluggish even with Eloquence which
>I have to attribute to WindowEyes itself from past experience.

>That said I am asking about how to improve the speech settings including the
>pitch change for capitalization - I am pretty sure that is doable but not
>sure WindowEyes has a setting to do it, we will see.

>I just dropped 40 bucks to get Eloquence so I hope WindowEyes takes
>advantage of its feature set.

>The slight lag times are annoying but not so bad that I will dump WindowEyes
>all be it I am disapointed so far with WindowEyes performance with a hot
>synth like Eloquence.

>But, as mentioned, I will ask on list how to tweak settings to see if I can
>get things working well enough to not be a constant hassle using WindowEyes.

>Wish I could have given WindowEyes and Eloquence a glowing congratulations
>out of the box but it is what it is.

>Rick USA

> 

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Re: wlm and 9.1

That happens if you have the two-line view selected in the View Layout 
settings.  If you change back to one-line 
view, you should get everything read including the message status.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Fri, 6 Mar 2015 07:49:46 -0600, tchild via Talk wrote:

>Hi Doug,
>I haven't changed anything. I just downloaded the 9.1 this morning and when 
>I opened WLM after doing so. As I arrow down the list of messages it no 
>longer read anything but the subject of each message.
>Tony

>-Original Message- 
>From: Doug Geoffray via Talk
>Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 7:25 AM
>To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
>Subject: Re: wlm and 9.1

>Tony,

>The status is reading fine for me in my Windows Live Mail and I've not
>heard of this being a problem.  Are you sure you have that column
>enabled in Windows Live Mail itself?

>As for the count, yes, this did regress.  I'm sure we can do something
>in the Windows Live Mail app to clean this up.  We just need a chance to
>get to it.

>Doug


>On 3/6/2015 8:15 AM, tchild via Talk wrote:
>> Hi,
>> The number of unread messages isnâ¬"t read and then in the message list it 
>> no longer telles you if a message has been read or unread?
>> Tony
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back space key

2015-03-06 Thread Brice Mijares via Talk

Why don't window eyes say something when you hit the back space key? I get 
the silent treatment. This didn't happen until 9.0 


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kaspersky security suite

2015-03-06 Thread Brice Mijares via Talk

Has anyone had any luck with this Kaspersky security? I had some work done 
on my laptop and they gave me a one year free subscription for this security 
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RE: Caps Pitch Control

Hi Again David:
i have done some scripting for WindowEyes in the past and found it a most
painful experience compared to working in a Full blown Programming Language.
I have created scripts for Visual Studio and even a script, app, to
automatically convert all UI text elements of any script into any foreign
language supported by Microsoft.
I have built both VbScripts and External Scripts but as mentioned found the
experience both frustrating and painfully slow including the process of
analyzing third party dom models for scripting.
I can either do programming in my chosen platform and get real work done or
spend the time slogging through creating a script to fix a weakness or
problem(s)  with WindowEyes.
I don't expect WindowEyes to be perfect but at least have the features and
performance of its competition and especially those of the free screen
readers out there.
You know I have some experience, been on the scripting list for what 10
years now, so your suggestion is almost an insult to me knowing full well I
could script something if I had the time and needed to do it.
I really don't have the time since I am deep into a project that involves a
huge platform, very complex technicals including parallel processing,
database design testing and implementation, dynamically allocated plug-ins,
dynamic UI elements, Task Management, external processes, and a host of
other lengthly and complicated cutting edge materials not to mention
thousands and thousands of lines of code that needs to be brought up to
date, streamlined and documented to modern standards.
Now, if you want to take over this project I will take a few weeks off and
create a script or 2 in vb script or another WindowEyes language to change
the pitch of capital letters and perhaps fix a couple of other problems.
Then, if they didn't impact performance negatively I could even send you a
copy for your personal use - what do you think?
Rick USA
-Original Message-
From: David [mailto:trailerda...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 10:39 AM
To: Rick Thomas; Window-Eyes Discussion List; 'gosselin_louis'; 'Chris
Grabowski'
Subject: Re: Caps Pitch Control

Rick,
Sorry. But if you don't want VBScripts, for whatever reason, remember 
that you can use any other Com-supporting scripting language for 
scripting WE. You state you are doing computer development, so should 
not be much for you to script what you want. The CapBeeper script - I do 
believe - even is open sourced, so you could easily look at how they 
have solved the issue, and transfer it into a scripting system you would 
so greatly accept.

If you just get yourself around it, it should be no trouble to make 
whatever pitch change you want. It even may be possible to change the 
actual Eloquence voice, that would be used for the capitals.

I just don't see what you expect to accomplish. If you are a developer, 
then develop your script the way you want it. If you don't, then stick 
with what apps are available. What in the world is so wrong with a tiny 
VBScript, only a few lines long? And if none of that serves, then I 
could suggest to install the GWAudiokit app, and script something that 
would make use of it, since that will let you adjust the volume of any 
beeping sounds your app is going to make.

Sorry, but there is not much other to provide you at this moment. If you 
want further scripting discussion, please take the issue to the 
Scripting list. You there might be able to pick up some good advice. 
Yet, they likely will ask you to start out with the CapBeeper anyway, if 
for nothing else, then at least to learn what is included.

I am sure, several of the developers of apps for WE would like to help 
you out. But most of us are doing VBScripting, and you so thouroughly 
have made it clear that you don't want VBScripts. In effect, you have 
blocked many of us from offering to compile something that could have 
helpd you out.

Again, I do not want to argue you. Simply just trying to point out to 
you, that you have been provided all current solutions. None of that 
served you, and I do understand that it would be great had WE offered 
some further settings in this regard. Hopefully AISquared could put that 
on the wishlist for furture releases. Meanwhile, if you want someone to 
assist with a script for the feature you are asking, take it to the 
Scripting list, and likely accept VBScripts. If you want, go ahead and 
construct your own script for the job. Inside an app, it is absolutely 
not difficult to adjust the pitch, of any voice that supports pitching. 
Eloquence is good in that regard, and like I said, you can even use one 
of the alternative Eloquence voices (like Sandy) for the purpose. It 
will provide a clearly distinct voice for the job. You then let it act 
upon any capital letter that is about to be spoken. In basic, what the 
CapBeeper is doing, just you change the voice instead of beeping. All of 
that is far too techie for this list, so go to the Scripting l

RE: Right Arrow Problem in WE 9.1

2015-03-06 Thread Dave Basden via Talk


Hi  Lou,

If I press the home key to move to the beginning of the line where 
the word "tes" is located, the cursor will be on the first "t" in 
tes.  If I then press right arrow, the cursor moves to the "e" and 
reads "t", which is the prior key after the cursor has moved.  At 
least that is how it has always been.  In WE 9.1 the computer beeps 
on the first press of right arrow and reads the "t" on the second 
press of right arrow.  At that point the cursor is on the "e" in test 
as it should be.  In other words, the first press of right arrow does nothing.

At 11:46 PM 3/5/2015, you wrote:

My right arrow cursoring key is set to character after and it works as I
would expect. My understanding is that if I set the WE right arrow key to
read prior character after instead of character after, Window-Eyes is going
to read the character to the left of the character beside the cursor. So if
I were going to read the word car letter by letter, WE would say space when
the cursor passed the letter C, the letter c when the cursor passed the
letter a, and the letter r when the cursor passed the space after the letter
r.

Lou N.

-Original Message-
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Subject: Right Arrow Problem in WE 9.1

My right arrow is set to read prior character after.  When I move to
the beginning of a line and press right arrow, I get a beep.  It
takes a second press to actually move and read the first character on
the line.  This did not happen in WE 9.0 or any earlier version.

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Copy text with formatting disabled in firefox

2015-03-06 Thread Sky Mundell via Talk

Hello list, this is Sky. I just got the Window-Eyes 9.1 upgrade and I love
it a lot. In recent days I have had to switch to firefox as whenever I go to
internet explorer on google I get a certificate error dialog, with a yes/no
response. This started happening a few days ago. Anyways, when using
firefox, and I hit f8 to select the text, and f8 to select at the end, I get
a copy dialog, but no copy with formatting. How come there is a copy with
formatting with IE, but not in firefox? I'm just curious. Thanks, Sky.

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How can I set up Google Chrome to be totally accessible.

2015-03-06 Thread Trent Fogle via Talk

Hello.
Chris from Aisquared please forgive me if you were still going to send me the 
directions on how to set up Chrome.
Please don't think I'm inpatient.
But if anybody else has any other ideas on how to set it up to be totally 
accessible especially for the totally blind, that would be appreciated too.
Thanks.
Trent Fogle.
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RE: Caps Pitch Control

One more thing David:
If it is so easy to do why havent you done it or why don't you do it?
I havent worked with the scripting model in several years and would have a
steep learning curve for the WE Object Model again and if it would take you
no time to do why don't you just create a quick one and be the scriptor of
record for a solution that several folks would appreciate.
It would take me allot longer given the fact I would have to ReLearn the
scripting Object Model and review the vb scripting syntax as well as use of
the WE Platform Development model all while working outside the Development
Platform I am accustomed to.
But you could throw a couple of lines of code together in what, half an hour
to solve this problem?
If so it may have been faster to develop a script and post up an answer to
my posting rather than the time it took you to type that lengthly rant about
me being able to develop a script in a few lines in a few minutes.
I wasn't sure but, Ya, I am insulted at your posting indeed and you hurt my
feelings.
Rick USA


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Re: How can I set up Google Chrome to be totally accessible.

2015-03-06 Thread Chris Skarstad via Talk

It is accessible with Window-eyes 9.1.  not with any other version 
however.  so you must be running Window-eyes 9.1 for Google Chrome to be 
accessible.



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Please don't think I'm inpatient.
But if anybody else has any other ideas on how to set it up to be totally 
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Thanks.
Trent Fogle.
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Re: wlm and 9.1

I had selected two-line view a long time ago, because somebody said that is 
how to get to read it all, but when I asked why it read it in a different 
order, I was told to select one-line view.  It changed the order to what it 
used to be before I got windows 7 and windows live mail.  So I have had it 
on one-line view for a while now.  Pam.


-Original Message- 
From: tchild via Talk

Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 8:53 AM
To: Doug Geoffray ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: wlm and 9.1

Ok, just for shits and giggles I went to view, layout and changed it over to
one line view and it reads me all the info again, actually a better setup
than before. Just instead of using two line view you must select one line
view.
Tony

-Original Message- 
From: Doug Geoffray via Talk

Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 7:25 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: wlm and 9.1

Tony,

The status is reading fine for me in my Windows Live Mail and I've not
heard of this being a problem.  Are you sure you have that column
enabled in Windows Live Mail itself?

As for the count, yes, this did regress.  I'm sure we can do something
in the Windows Live Mail app to clean this up.  We just need a chance to
get to it.

Doug


On 3/6/2015 8:15 AM, tchild via Talk wrote:

Hi,
The number of unread messages isn’t read and then in the message list it 
no longer telles you if a message has been read or unread?

Tony
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Re: wlm and 9.1

That's very interesting, because I just downloaded the update and it is 
reading everything.  Pam.

-Original Message- 
From: tchild via Talk

Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 8:49 AM
To: Doug Geoffray ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: wlm and 9.1

Hi Doug,
I haven't changed anything. I just downloaded the 9.1 this morning and when
I opened WLM after doing so. As I arrow down the list of messages it no
longer read anything but the subject of each message.
Tony

-Original Message- 
From: Doug Geoffray via Talk

Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 7:25 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: wlm and 9.1

Tony,

The status is reading fine for me in my Windows Live Mail and I've not
heard of this being a problem.  Are you sure you have that column
enabled in Windows Live Mail itself?

As for the count, yes, this did regress.  I'm sure we can do something
in the Windows Live Mail app to clean this up.  We just need a chance to
get to it.

Doug

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Hi,
The number of unread messages isn’t read and then in the message list it 
no longer telles you if a message has been read or unread?

Tony
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Re: Caps Pitch Control

I have Dec-talk with mine and notice a difference in pitch on capital 
letters if I arrow letter by letter.  Pam.

-Original Message- 
From: Rick Thomas via Talk

Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 9:32 AM
To: 'Chris Grabowski' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Caps Pitch Control

I have the caps beeper working. It is too loud and giving me a headache
after only a few minutes of beeping.
It is better than your other option of saying the word cap and not reading
the following letter without a significant lag.
I did not see a way to turn down the volume of the beep, is there one?
None of this carp would be necessary if WindowEyes just handled
capitalization pitch settings properly as other screen readers do.
So how do I turn down the beep compared to the we speech?
If I can turn it down a bunch it might be acceptible all be it a work-around
rather than fixing the problem correctly.
Rick USA
-Original Message-
From: Chris Grabowski [mailto:cgrabow...@aisquared.com]
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 8:50 AM
To: Rick Thomas; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: Caps Pitch Control

Hi Rick,

It is not possible to change the level of pitch for capital letters.

We offer the 60 day evaluation  version so people can have access to
everything Window-eyes has to offer, including the premium synthesizers.

If the pitch  change isn't enough, perhaps installing the third party cap
beeper app.

https://www.gwmicro.com/App_Central/Apps/Download/?scriptid=1216

This makes a beep  when you move across a capital letter.  You can even  use
a different sound if you don't like the beep the author included.

Thanks,
Chris

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Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 8:02 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: Caps Pitch Control

Hi Steve: There should be a way to control the pitch change for capital
letters me thinks.

I havent found it in WindowEyes Settings yet though.

Some speech operations are still slightly sluggish even with Eloquence which
I have to attribute to WindowEyes itself from past experience.

That said I am asking about how to improve the speech settings including the
pitch change for capitalization - I am pretty sure that is doable but not
sure WindowEyes has a setting to do it, we will see.

I just dropped 40 bucks to get Eloquence so I hope WindowEyes takes
advantage of its feature set.

The slight lag times are annoying but not so bad that I will dump WindowEyes
all be it I am disapointed so far with WindowEyes performance with a hot
synth like Eloquence.

But, as mentioned, I will ask on list how to tweak settings to see if I can
get things working well enough to not be a constant hassle using WindowEyes.

Wish I could have given WindowEyes and Eloquence a glowing congratulations
out of the box but it is what it is.

Rick USA

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Re: wlm and 9.1

2015-03-06 Thread Pastor Gil Pries via Talk

   I have single line view set and still don't get the status line 
since I downloaded WE 9.1..

Pastor Gil

-Original Message- 
From: Steve Jacobson via Talk

Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 8:03 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: wlm and 9.1

That happens if you have the two-line view selected in the View Layout 
settings.  If you change back to one-line

view, you should get everything read including the message status.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Fri, 6 Mar 2015 07:49:46 -0600, tchild via Talk wrote:

Hi Doug,
I haven't changed anything. I just downloaded the 9.1 this morning and when
I opened WLM after doing so. As I arrow down the list of messages it no
longer read anything but the subject of each message.
Tony

-Original Message- 
From: Doug Geoffray via Talk

Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 7:25 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: wlm and 9.1

Tony,

The status is reading fine for me in my Windows Live Mail and I've not
heard of this being a problem.  Are you sure you have that column
enabled in Windows Live Mail itself?

As for the count, yes, this did regress.  I'm sure we can do something
in the Windows Live Mail app to clean this up.  We just need a chance to
get to it.

Doug

On 3/6/2015 8:15 AM, tchild via Talk wrote:

Hi,
The number of unread messages isnâ¬"t read and then in the message list 
it

no longer telles you if a message has been read or unread?
Tony
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WLM Problem

2015-03-06 Thread Pastor Gil Pries via Talk

I’m getting everything except the number of messages in the in-box.  It just 
says, “Tree View.”
Pastor Gil
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RE: How can I set up Google Chrome to be totally accessible.

Hello,
If you are running 9.1 you'll  just download and install Chrome.

You can download it from:
http://chrome.google.com


After doing that Chrome should just work.

Thanks,
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-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Trent Fogle via Talk
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 11:55 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: How can I set up Google Chrome to be totally accessible.

Hello.
Chris from Aisquared please forgive me if you were still going to send me the 
directions on how to set up Chrome.
Please don't think I'm inpatient.
But if anybody else has any other ideas on how to set it up to be totally 
accessible especially for the totally blind, that would be appreciated too.
Thanks.
Trent Fogle.
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Re: Copy text with formatting disabled in firefox

Sky,

Firefox and Chrome do not export the functionality to allow us to copy 
formatting without creating some sort of add-in which has other issues.  
IE allows us to do it without all that.

Doug

On 3/6/2015 11:54 AM, Sky Mundell via Talk wrote:
> Hello list, this is Sky. I just got the Window-Eyes 9.1 upgrade and I love
> it a lot. In recent days I have had to switch to firefox as whenever I go to
> internet explorer on google I get a certificate error dialog, with a yes/no
> response. This started happening a few days ago. Anyways, when using
> firefox, and I hit f8 to select the text, and f8 to select at the end, I get
> a copy dialog, but no copy with formatting. How come there is a copy with
> formatting with IE, but not in firefox? I'm just curious. Thanks, Sky.
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WLM Problem

2015-03-06 Thread Pastor Gil Pries via Talk

I forgot to say that I am using WE 9.1 and Windows 7 Professional.

Pastor Gil
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Re: back space key

I don't know, because I find exactly the opposite.  Even when window eyes 
chooses to be silent in the middle of an email, if I hit the backspace key 
to correct a mistake, it says the letter it is taking out.  Pam.

-Original Message- 
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Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 11:30 AM
To: talk window eyes
Subject: back space key

Why don't window eyes say something when you hit the back space key? I get
the silent treatment. This didn't happen until 9.0

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32 or 64 bit Chrome?

2015-03-06 Thread Bill Holton via Talk

Does it matter which I use?

 

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Skype and WE question

2015-03-06 Thread Yusuf Osman via Talk

Hi, Could someone offer some help with using the latest version with WE and the 
latest version of Skype? Messages are not being read as they come in, and the 
F1,F2 keys for reading the different messages in a conversation aren't working 
either. The Skype App is running. Does anyone have any ideas?
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Re: wlm and 9.1

2015-03-06 Thread Danny via Talk

   What I find interesting is that the status shows in all folders except 
for the one that contains the messages from the WE list.


Danny

-Original Message- 
From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk

Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 11:09 AM
To: Steve Jacobson ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: wlm and 9.1

   I have single line view set and still don't get the status line
since I downloaded WE 9.1..
Pastor Gil

-Original Message- 
From: Steve Jacobson via Talk

Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 8:03 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: wlm and 9.1

That happens if you have the two-line view selected in the View Layout
settings.  If you change back to one-line
view, you should get everything read including the message status.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Fri, 6 Mar 2015 07:49:46 -0600, tchild via Talk wrote:


Hi Doug,
I haven't changed anything. I just downloaded the 9.1 this morning and when
I opened WLM after doing so. As I arrow down the list of messages it no
longer read anything but the subject of each message.
Tony


-Original Message- 
From: Doug Geoffray via Talk

Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 7:25 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: wlm and 9.1



Tony,



The status is reading fine for me in my Windows Live Mail and I've not
heard of this being a problem.  Are you sure you have that column
enabled in Windows Live Mail itself?



As for the count, yes, this did regress.  I'm sure we can do something
in the Windows Live Mail app to clean this up.  We just need a chance to
get to it.



Doug




On 3/6/2015 8:15 AM, tchild via Talk wrote:

Hi,
The number of unread messages isnâ¬"t read and then in the message list 
it

no longer telles you if a message has been read or unread?
Tony
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Re: kaspersky security suite

2015-03-06 Thread Jim via Talk

On 06-Mar-15 11:27, Brice Mijares via Talk wrote:

Has anyone had any luck with  this Kaspersky security? I had some work

> done on my laptop and they gave me a one year free subscription for
> this security suite. To me, it's inaccessible.
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Bryce, hopefully I spelled your name correctly..? I have ran this 
security system and no it isn't very accessible.  I have the gentleman 
who does my computer work help me with it when it needs updated.  Once 
it is set up you really don't need to do anything since it runs totally 
in the background as I understand.  One thing I will say is that I have 
had this package on my system since the summer of 2012 and have never 
been bothered with any sort of viruses spyware or even much in the way 
of anoying popups.  So if you can keep it updated I think you will like 
it since it is very low maintenance.  Just my two sense worth for 
whatever that might be worth.  THANKS &73 de

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RE: kaspersky security suite

2015-03-06 Thread Rusty Bourgoin via Talk

I agree with this.  I purchased a license and installed it only to find that
it is totally graphical.  Nothing seems to work at all, except it seems to
update every day as indicated in the system tray.
Rusty


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Subject: kaspersky security suite

Has anyone had any luck with this Kaspersky security? I had some work done
on my laptop and they gave me a one year free subscription for this security
suite. To me, it's inaccessible. 

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Re: Right Arrow Problem in WE 9.1

2015-03-06 Thread via Talk

Maybe you want to increase the cursor delay under general.

Dave Basden via Talk  wrote:

> Hi  Lou,
> 
> If I press the home key to move to the beginning of the line where the
> word "tes" is located, the cursor will be on the first "t" in tes.  If
> I then press right arrow, the cursor moves to the "e" and reads "t",
> which is the prior key after the cursor has moved.  At least that is
> how it has always been.  In WE 9.1 the computer beeps on the first
> press of right arrow and reads the "t" on the second press of right
> arrow.  At that point the cursor is on the "e" in test as it should
> be.  In other words, the first press of right arrow does nothing.
> At 11:46 PM 3/5/2015, you wrote:
> >My right arrow cursoring key is set to character after and it works as I
> >would expect. My understanding is that if I set the WE right arrow key to
> >read prior character after instead of character after, Window-Eyes is going
> >to read the character to the left of the character beside the cursor. So if
> >I were going to read the word car letter by letter, WE would say space when
> >the cursor passed the letter C, the letter c when the cursor passed the
> >letter a, and the letter r when the cursor passed the space after the letter
> >r.
> >
> >Lou N.
> >
> >-Original Message-
> From: Talk
> >[mailto:talk-bounces+fenderwal=sbcglobal@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> >Behalf Of Dave Basden via Talk
> >Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 4:19 PM
> >To: cov...@ccs.covici.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> >Subject: Right Arrow Problem in WE 9.1
> >
> >My right arrow is set to read prior character after.  When I move to
> >the beginning of a line and press right arrow, I get a beep.  It
> >takes a second press to actually move and read the first character on
> >the line.  This did not happen in WE 9.0 or any earlier version.
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RE: Skype and WE question

2015-03-06 Thread Yusuf Osman via Talk

Sorry everyone, take no notice, it would help if I had read the help me info in 
the app all the way through. I needed to change the view to split view, now its 
all working without a problem.
Yusuf

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Behalf Of Yusuf Osman via Talk
Sent: 06 March 2015 17:38
To: Window Eyes Talk (talk@lists.window-eyes.com)
Subject: Skype and WE question

Hi, Could someone offer some help with using the latest version with WE and the 
latest version of Skype? Messages are not being read as they come in, and the 
F1,F2 keys for reading the different messages in a conversation aren't working 
either. The Skype App is running. Does anyone have any ideas?
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Bug in Word 365

2015-03-06 Thread Bill Holton via Talk

Hi.

Whenever I mark a few words using Word 365 on my Win 7 machine, the cursor
keys stop working and I can do nothing else in Word until I alt tab away and
back in.  Anyone else experiencing this?

 

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Re: wlm and 9.1

2015-03-06 Thread net bat via Talk

check that your apps are up to date. even with the w e update i still had a 
few apps that were out of date.;;

-Original Message- 
From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk

Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 9:09 AM
To: Steve Jacobson ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: wlm and 9.1

   I have single line view set and still don't get the status line
since I downloaded WE 9.1..
Pastor Gil

-Original Message- 
From: Steve Jacobson via Talk

Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 8:03 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: wlm and 9.1

That happens if you have the two-line view selected in the View Layout
settings.  If you change back to one-line
view, you should get everything read including the message status.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Fri, 6 Mar 2015 07:49:46 -0600, tchild via Talk wrote:

Hi Doug,
I haven't changed anything. I just downloaded the 9.1 this morning and when
I opened WLM after doing so. As I arrow down the list of messages it no
longer read anything but the subject of each message.
Tony

-Original Message- 
From: Doug Geoffray via Talk

Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 7:25 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: wlm and 9.1

Tony,

The status is reading fine for me in my Windows Live Mail and I've not
heard of this being a problem.  Are you sure you have that column
enabled in Windows Live Mail itself?

As for the count, yes, this did regress.  I'm sure we can do something
in the Windows Live Mail app to clean this up.  We just need a chance to
get to it.

Doug

On 3/6/2015 8:15 AM, tchild via Talk wrote:

Hi,
The number of unread messages isnb,"t read and then in the message list 
it

no longer telles you if a message has been read or unread?
Tony
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Re: wlm and 9.1

I am too but before I had the same thing in two line view. When I downloaded 
the 9.1 it stopped and I had to change to one line view

-Original Message- 
From: Steve Jacobson via Talk

Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 9:59 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: wlm and 9.1

Usually the status of a message can be made to read by selecting the one 
line view in View, Layout.  This hasn't
changed, though, so maybe you are experiencing another problem.  I am 
getting the status of the messages read with

Window-eyes 9.1.0.0 so this isn't a universal problem with this version.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Fri, 6 Mar 2015 07:15:58 -0600, tchild via Talk wrote:

Hi,
The number of unread messages isnâ¬"t read and then in the message list it 
no longer telles you if a message has

been read or unread?

Tony
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Re: Please help!

Please keep in mind that this kind of email does not mean that there is an 
intrusion.  Sometimes when one sets up a 
new device to get mail from GMAIL this gets triggered, particularly if one is 
in a different location.  Sometimes 
you simply have to log into GMail using the web and follow some instructions 
that verifies that the activity is all 
right.  For example, I got this message when I set up my cellphone to receive a 
GMail account.  If you have not set 
up any new devices or computers to receive mail from the particular GMail 
account, then it is probably a very good 
idea to change your password because someone might be messing with the account. 
 However, if you just tried setting 
up another computer or other device to get mail from the affected account, then 
you probably don't need to change 
the password, just log into GMail on the web.  Also, the location given isn't 
necessarily going to be where you are 
but may relate to an IP address.  

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Fri, 06 Mar 2015 20:32:28 +1000, brendoncdono...@icloud.com via Talk wrote:

>Hi, so did you undertake the steps in this email? Changing the password? Did 
>this help? Please advise.thanks.

>Warm Regards, Brendon Donohue

>On 6 Mar 2015, at 8:26 pm, RajTribhuwan via Talk  
>wrote:

>Hello guys,
>I don't have the patience right now to venture in to the google/gmail jungle
>to figure this one out, so seeking your knowledge/help.

>When I try to import gmail messages through a mail client such as outlook or
>window mail, it gives an error message, whether imap or pop. and when I look
>at the account through the web/internet, I see a mail from google saying
>something like this:

>Subject: Google Account: sign-in attempt blocked
>

>   Hi Sonny, 

>We recently blocked a sign-in attempt to your Google Account r...@gmail.com. 
>Sign in attempt details 
>Date & Time: Saturday, February 28, 10:05 AM EST 
>Location: Toronto, ON, Canada 
>If this wasn't you 
>Please review your Account Activity page at
>https://security.google.com/settings/security/activity to see if anything
>looks suspicious. Whoever tried to sign in to your account knows your
>password; we recommend that you change it right away. 
>If this was you 
>You can switch to an app made by Google such as Gmail to access your account
>(recommended) or change your settings at
>https://www.google.com/settings/security/lesssecureapps so that your account
>is no longer protected by modern security standards. 

>To learn more, see https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255. 

>Sincerely,
>The Google Accounts team
>   
>   This email can't receive replies. For more information, visit the
>Google Accounts Help Center. 

>   
>   If lio...@gmail.com isn't your Google Account, click here to
>disconnect your email address from this account. 

>   
>You received this mandatory email service announcement to update you about
>important changes to your Google product or account. 
>C 2015 Google Inc., 1600 Amphitheatre Parkway, Mountain View, CA 94043, USA 

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RE: Caps Pitch Control

Thanks Pam: I do appreciate your response.
Rick USA
-Original Message-
From: Pamela Dominguez [mailto:geo...@optonline.net] 
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 12:09 PM
To: Rick Thomas; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Caps Pitch Control

I have Dec-talk with mine and notice a difference in pitch on capital 
letters if I arrow letter by letter.  Pam.

-Original Message- 
From: Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 9:32 AM
To: 'Chris Grabowski' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Caps Pitch Control

I have the caps beeper working. It is too loud and giving me a headache
after only a few minutes of beeping.
It is better than your other option of saying the word cap and not reading
the following letter without a significant lag.
I did not see a way to turn down the volume of the beep, is there one?
None of this carp would be necessary if WindowEyes just handled
capitalization pitch settings properly as other screen readers do.
So how do I turn down the beep compared to the we speech?
If I can turn it down a bunch it might be acceptible all be it a work-around
rather than fixing the problem correctly.
Rick USA
-Original Message-
From: Chris Grabowski [mailto:cgrabow...@aisquared.com]
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 8:50 AM
To: Rick Thomas; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: Caps Pitch Control

Hi Rick,

It is not possible to change the level of pitch for capital letters.

We offer the 60 day evaluation  version so people can have access to
everything Window-eyes has to offer, including the premium synthesizers.

If the pitch  change isn't enough, perhaps installing the third party cap
beeper app.

https://www.gwmicro.com/App_Central/Apps/Download/?scriptid=1216

This makes a beep  when you move across a capital letter.  You can even  use
a different sound if you don't like the beep the author included.

Thanks,
Chris

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-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 8:02 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: Caps Pitch Control

Hi Steve: There should be a way to control the pitch change for capital
letters me thinks.

I havent found it in WindowEyes Settings yet though.

Some speech operations are still slightly sluggish even with Eloquence which
I have to attribute to WindowEyes itself from past experience.

That said I am asking about how to improve the speech settings including the
pitch change for capitalization - I am pretty sure that is doable but not
sure WindowEyes has a setting to do it, we will see.

I just dropped 40 bucks to get Eloquence so I hope WindowEyes takes
advantage of its feature set.

The slight lag times are annoying but not so bad that I will dump WindowEyes
all be it I am disapointed so far with WindowEyes performance with a hot
synth like Eloquence.

But, as mentioned, I will ask on list how to tweak settings to see if I can
get things working well enough to not be a constant hassle using WindowEyes.

Wish I could have given WindowEyes and Eloquence a glowing congratulations
out of the box but it is what it is.

Rick USA

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Re: Please help!

2015-03-06 Thread Reeva Webb via Talk

You need to go into the settings for gmail and enable login from less
secure apps.  I had to do this when I was setting up my gmail with outlook,
after you enable login from less secure apps things should work.

Reeva

On Friday, March 6, 2015, Steve Jacobson via Talk <
talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

> Please keep in mind that this kind of email does not mean that there is an
> intrusion.  Sometimes when one sets up a
> new device to get mail from GMAIL this gets triggered, particularly if one
> is in a different location.  Sometimes
> you simply have to log into GMail using the web and follow some
> instructions that verifies that the activity is all
> right.  For example, I got this message when I set up my cellphone to
> receive a GMail account.  If you have not set
> up any new devices or computers to receive mail from the particular GMail
> account, then it is probably a very good
> idea to change your password because someone might be messing with the
> account.  However, if you just tried setting
> up another computer or other device to get mail from the affected account,
> then you probably don't need to change
> the password, just log into GMail on the web.  Also, the location given
> isn't necessarily going to be where you are
> but may relate to an IP address.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Steve Jacobson
>
>
> On Fri, 06 Mar 2015 20:32:28 +1000, brendoncdono...@icloud.com
>  via Talk wrote:
>
> >Hi, so did you undertake the steps in this email? Changing the password?
> Did this help? Please advise.thanks.
>
> >Warm Regards, Brendon Donohue
>
> >On 6 Mar 2015, at 8:26 pm, RajTribhuwan via Talk <
> talk@lists.window-eyes.com > wrote:
>
> >Hello guys,
> >I don't have the patience right now to venture in to the google/gmail
> jungle
> >to figure this one out, so seeking your knowledge/help.
>
> >When I try to import gmail messages through a mail client such as outlook
> or
> >window mail, it gives an error message, whether imap or pop. and when I
> look
> >at the account through the web/internet, I see a mail from google saying
> >something like this:
>
> >Subject: Google Account: sign-in attempt blocked
> >
>
>
> >   Hi Sonny,
>
> >We recently blocked a sign-in attempt to your Google Account r...@gmail.com
> .
> >Sign in attempt details
> >Date & Time: Saturday, February 28, 10:05 AM EST
> >Location: Toronto, ON, Canada
> >If this wasn't you
> >Please review your Account Activity page at
> >https://security.google.com/settings/security/activity to see if anything
> >looks suspicious. Whoever tried to sign in to your account knows your
> >password; we recommend that you change it right away.
> >If this was you
> >You can switch to an app made by Google such as Gmail to access your
> account
> >(recommended) or change your settings at
> >https://www.google.com/settings/security/lesssecureapps so that your
> account
> >is no longer protected by modern security standards.
>
> >To learn more, see https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255.
>
> >Sincerely,
> >The Google Accounts team
> >
> >   This email can't receive replies. For more information, visit the
> >Google Accounts Help Center.
>
> >
> >   If lio...@gmail.com  isn't your Google Account, click
> here to
> >disconnect your email address from this account.
>
> >
> >You received this mandatory email service announcement to update you about
> >important changes to your Google product or account.
> >C 2015 Google Inc., 1600 Amphitheatre Parkway, Mountain View, CA 94043,
> USA
>
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Re: wlm and 9.1

what I'm saying before in jWE 8.XX and 9.00 it was telling me the status in 
2 line view, two line view.

-Original Message- 
From: Steve Jacobson via Talk

Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 10:03 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: wlm and 9.1

That happens if you have the two-line view selected in the View Layout 
settings.  If you change back to one-line

view, you should get everything read including the message status.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Fri, 6 Mar 2015 07:49:46 -0600, tchild via Talk wrote:

Hi Doug,
I haven't changed anything. I just downloaded the 9.1 this morning and when
I opened WLM after doing so. As I arrow down the list of messages it no
longer read anything but the subject of each message.
Tony

-Original Message- 
From: Doug Geoffray via Talk

Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 7:25 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: wlm and 9.1

Tony,

The status is reading fine for me in my Windows Live Mail and I've not
heard of this being a problem.  Are you sure you have that column
enabled in Windows Live Mail itself?

As for the count, yes, this did regress.  I'm sure we can do something
in the Windows Live Mail app to clean this up.  We just need a chance to
get to it.

Doug

On 3/6/2015 8:15 AM, tchild via Talk wrote:

Hi,
The number of unread messages isnâ¬"t read and then in the message list 
it

no longer telles you if a message has been read or unread?
Tony
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Re: wlm and 9.1

2015-03-06 Thread Casey via Talk


Hi after upgrading my window-eyes this morning.
My read and unread status doesn't read in windows live mail either.
I even changed from two line view to single line view.
And that didn't fix anything.
Also I disabled the windows live mail app also with know change either.
So how do you fix this/
It worked just fine before the upgrade to 9.1.



On 3/6/2015 11:42 AM, Danny via Talk wrote:

What I find interesting is that the status shows in all folders
except for the one that contains the messages from the WE list.

Danny

-Original Message- From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 11:09 AM
To: Steve Jacobson ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: wlm and 9.1

I have single line view set and still don't get the status line
since I downloaded WE 9.1..
Pastor Gil

-Original Message- From: Steve Jacobson via Talk
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 8:03 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: wlm and 9.1

That happens if you have the two-line view selected in the View Layout
settings.  If you change back to one-line
view, you should get everything read including the message status.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Fri, 6 Mar 2015 07:49:46 -0600, tchild via Talk wrote:


Hi Doug,
I haven't changed anything. I just downloaded the 9.1 this morning and
when
I opened WLM after doing so. As I arrow down the list of messages it no
longer read anything but the subject of each message.
Tony



-Original Message- From: Doug Geoffray via Talk
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 7:25 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: wlm and 9.1



Tony,



The status is reading fine for me in my Windows Live Mail and I've not
heard of this being a problem.  Are you sure you have that column
enabled in Windows Live Mail itself?



As for the count, yes, this did regress.  I'm sure we can do something
in the Windows Live Mail app to clean this up.  We just need a chance to
get to it.



Doug




On 3/6/2015 8:15 AM, tchild via Talk wrote:

Hi,
The number of unread messages isnâ¬"t read and then in the message
list it
no longer telles you if a message has been read or unread?
Tony
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Re: How can I set up Google Chrome to be totally accessible.

2015-03-06 Thread Brad Hodges via Talk

Chris, oh that it were so. After following the "download" link and then 
"download" for Windows, there is something, perhaps a popover which 
causes WE to stop reading. Something about Google 1, but no clue about 
Chrome download. If you want to deploy your hard work, please give us a 
clean working install path.


Best,

Brad
On 3/6/2015 12:18 PM, Chris Grabowski via Talk wrote:

Hello,
If you are running 9.1 you'll  just download and install Chrome.

You can download it from:
http://chrome.google.com


After doing that Chrome should just work.

Thanks,
Chris


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On Behalf Of Trent Fogle via Talk
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 11:55 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: How can I set up Google Chrome to be totally accessible.

Hello.
Chris from Aisquared please forgive me if you were still going to send me the 
directions on how to set up Chrome.
Please don't think I'm inpatient.
But if anybody else has any other ideas on how to set it up to be totally 
accessible especially for the totally blind, that would be appreciated too.
Thanks.
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Re: How can I set up Google Chrome to be totally accessible.

2015-03-06 Thread bob jutzi via Talk


What advantage is there in using Chrome over IE, if any?

On 3/6/2015 9:18 AM, Chris Grabowski via Talk wrote:

Hello,
If you are running 9.1 you'll  just download and install Chrome.

You can download it from:
http://chrome.google.com


After doing that Chrome should just work.

Thanks,
Chris


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Subject: How can I set up Google Chrome to be totally accessible.

Hello.
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directions on how to set up Chrome.
Please don't think I'm inpatient.
But if anybody else has any other ideas on how to set it up to be totally 
accessible especially for the totally blind, that would be appreciated too.
Thanks.
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Re: How can I set up Google Chrome to be totally accessible.

2015-03-06 Thread christopher hallsworth via Talk

Even better, get Chrome here
www.ninite.com/chrome
or check the Chrome check box on the main Ninite website and click get 
installer button. The last computer I had, Chrome could not work at all; it 
would simply crash. Hope it works on my new computer since I have Chrome on my 
mac and it's a good browser, especially if it has in-built flash.
> On 6 Mar 2015, at 17:18, Chris Grabowski via Talk 
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> 
> Hello,
> If you are running 9.1 you'll  just download and install Chrome.
> 
> You can download it from:
> http://chrome.google.com
> 
> 
> After doing that Chrome should just work.
> 
> Thanks,
> Chris
> 
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> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
> Subject: How can I set up Google Chrome to be totally accessible.
> 
> Hello.
> Chris from Aisquared please forgive me if you were still going to send me the 
> directions on how to set up Chrome.
> Please don't think I'm inpatient.
> But if anybody else has any other ideas on how to set it up to be totally 
> accessible especially for the totally blind, that would be appreciated too.
> Thanks.
> Trent Fogle.
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Re: How can I set up Google Chrome to be totally accessible.

2015-03-06 Thread brendoncdono...@icloud.com via Talk

Chrome is a browser that many people are using today! And I think it is 
fantastic! That AISquared took the time to develop window Iyes  to work with 
it!! No real advantages! Just another browser that we can now use! That was 
previously inaccessible to us.thanks.

Warm Regards, Brendon Donohue

On 7 Mar 2015, at 8:08 am, bob jutzi via Talk  
wrote:

What advantage is there in using Chrome over IE, if any?

> On 3/6/2015 9:18 AM, Chris Grabowski via Talk wrote:
> Hello,
> If you are running 9.1 you'll  just download and install Chrome.
> 
> You can download it from:
> http://chrome.google.com
> 
> 
> After doing that Chrome should just work.
> 
> Thanks,
> Chris
> 
> 
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> 
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Trent Fogle via Talk
> Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 11:55 AM
> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
> Subject: How can I set up Google Chrome to be totally accessible.
> 
> Hello.
> Chris from Aisquared please forgive me if you were still going to send me the 
> directions on how to set up Chrome.
> Please don't think I'm inpatient.
> But if anybody else has any other ideas on how to set it up to be totally 
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> Thanks.
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Re: Thunderbird problems

2015-03-06 Thread Don H via Talk


You can turn off those messages about spam.

On 3/6/2015 1:25 PM, Donald L. Roberts via Talk wrote:

Since updating to Window-eyes 9.1 on this 8.1 desktop, I have found Thunderbird 
24.6 to be almost unusable.  Arrowing through the message list does not seem to 
be problematic unless I up or downarrow too quickly in which case one or more 
programs crash, although I am not sure whether the problem is Window-eyes or 
Eloquence.  I do know for certain that Thunderbird 24.6 crashes because, if W E 
is still running, I can go to the task manager where I get the message asking 
whether I wish to wait for the program or close it, the program being 
Thunderbird 24.6.  After such crashes, pressing control alt W does not always 
cause W E to resume.

I am now at least temporarily using the Outlook Express hack if or until I can 
resolve the Thunderbird issues.  I know some tend to say almost automatically 
that I should upgrade to the latest Thunderbird.  But I am reluctant to do so 
because of the constant nags about Thunderbird thinks that some messages are 
spam.

In other areas, Window-Eyes 9.1 is working well for me unless I move around the 
screen too rapidly.  In 9.0, I had thought there were problems with the f8 copy 
command but later found that this command works far better with Notepad or 
Wordpad than it does with Ed sharp.

Thanks for the improvements as they are much appreciated.

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Re: Thunderbird problems

2015-03-06 Thread brendoncdono...@icloud.com via Talk

Hi, I would try to use the latest version of Thunderbird! Try this and see if
it resolved your issue.thanks.

Warm Regards, Brendon Donohue

On 7 Mar 2015, at 5:25 am, Donald L. Roberts via Talk
wrote:

Since updating to Window-eyes 9.1 on this 8.1 desktop, I have found Thunderbird
24.6 to be almost unusable. Arrowing through the message list does not seem to
be problematic unless I up or downarrow too quickly in which case one or more
programs crash, although I am not sure whether the problem is Window-eyes or
Eloquence. I do know for certain that Thunderbird 24.6 crashes because, if W E
is still running, I can go to the task manager where I get the message asking
whether I wish to wait for the program or close it, the program being
Thunderbird 24.6. After such crashes, pressing control alt W does not always
cause W E to resume.

I am now at least temporarily using the Outlook Express hack if or until I can
resolve the Thunderbird issues. I know some tend to say almost automatically
that I should upgrade to the latest Thunderbird. But I am reluctant to do so
because of the constant nags about Thunderbird thinks that some messages are
spam.

In other areas, Window-Eyes 9.1 is working well for me unless I move around the
screen too rapidly. In 9.0, I had thought there were problems with the f8 copy
command but later found that this command works far better with Notepad or
Wordpad than it does with Ed sharp.

Thanks for the improvements as they are much appreciated.

Don Roberts
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Re: How can I set up Google Chrome to be totally accessible.

2015-03-06 Thread brendoncdono...@icloud.com via Talk

Chrome is a browser that many people are using today! And I think it is 
fantastic! That AISquared took the time to develop window Eyes to work with 
it!! No real advantages! Just another browser that we can now use! That was 
previously inaccessible to us.thanks.

Warm Regards, Brendon Donohue

On 7 Mar 2015, at 8:08 am, bob jutzi via Talk  
wrote:

What advantage is there in using Chrome over IE, if any?

> On 3/6/2015 9:18 AM, Chris Grabowski via Talk wrote:
> Hello,
> If you are running 9.1 you'll  just download and install Chrome.
> 
> You can download it from:
> http://chrome.google.com
> 
> 
> After doing that Chrome should just work.
> 
> Thanks,
> Chris
> 
> 
> Window-Eyes Product Support
> Ai Squared
> 725 Airport North Office Park
> Fort Wayne, IN 46825
> (802) 362-3612
> www.aisquared.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk 
> [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
> Behalf Of Trent Fogle via Talk
> Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 11:55 AM
> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
> Subject: How can I set up Google Chrome to be totally accessible.
> 
> Hello.
> Chris from Aisquared please forgive me if you were still going to send me the 
> directions on how to set up Chrome.
> Please don't think I'm inpatient.
> But if anybody else has any other ideas on how to set it up to be totally 
> accessible especially for the totally blind, that would be appreciated too.
> Thanks.
> Trent Fogle.
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Thunderbird problems

2015-03-06 Thread Donald L. Roberts via Talk

Since updating to Window-eyes 9.1 on this 8.1 desktop, I have found Thunderbird 
24.6 to be almost unusable.  Arrowing through the message list does not seem to 
be problematic unless I up or downarrow too quickly in which case one or more 
programs crash, although I am not sure whether the problem is Window-eyes or 
Eloquence.  I do know for certain that Thunderbird 24.6 crashes because, if W E 
is still running, I can go to the task manager where I get the message asking 
whether I wish to wait for the program or close it, the program being 
Thunderbird 24.6.  After such crashes, pressing control alt W does not always 
cause W E to resume.  

I am now at least temporarily using the Outlook Express hack if or until I can 
resolve the Thunderbird issues.  I know some tend to say almost automatically 
that I should upgrade to the latest Thunderbird.  But I am reluctant to do so 
because of the constant nags about Thunderbird thinks that some messages are 
spam.  

In other areas, Window-Eyes 9.1 is working well for me unless I move around the 
screen too rapidly.  In 9.0, I had thought there were problems with the f8 copy 
command but later found that this command works far better with Notepad or 
Wordpad than it does with Ed sharp.

Thanks for the improvements as they are much appreciated.

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RE: How can I set up Google Chrome to be totally accessible.

2015-03-06 Thread Sky Mundell via Talk

Hello list. I just installed google chrome, and when I read several
websites, and I use the up and down arrow keys, Window-eyes reads, but
sometimes it cuts off the first letter. For example. When it gets to the
word badly, when its reading a sentence, it will acaisonally say bad y.
anyways to fix it? Thanks, Sky

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of christopher hallsworth via Talk
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 11:11 AM
To: Chris Grabowski; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: How can I set up Google Chrome to be totally accessible.

Even better, get Chrome here
www.ninite.com/chrome
or check the Chrome check box on the main Ninite website and click get
installer button. The last computer I had, Chrome could not work at all; it
would simply crash. Hope it works on my new computer since I have Chrome on
my mac and it's a good browser, especially if it has in-built flash.
> On 6 Mar 2015, at 17:18, Chris Grabowski via Talk
 wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> If you are running 9.1 you'll  just download and install Chrome.
> 
> You can download it from:
> http://chrome.google.com
> 
> 
> After doing that Chrome should just work.
> 
> Thanks,
> Chris
> 
> 
> Window-Eyes Product Support
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> (802) 362-3612
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> 
> -Original Message-
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Behalf Of Trent Fogle via Talk
> Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 11:55 AM
> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
> Subject: How can I set up Google Chrome to be totally accessible.
> 
> Hello.
> Chris from Aisquared please forgive me if you were still going to send me
the directions on how to set up Chrome.
> Please don't think I'm inpatient.
> But if anybody else has any other ideas on how to set it up to be totally
accessible especially for the totally blind, that would be appreciated too.
> Thanks.
> Trent Fogle.
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RE: How can I set up Google Chrome to be totally accessible.

2015-03-06 Thread Bill Scherer via Talk

I believe it's also safer than Internet exploder.
Bill

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+bspro=comcast@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of bob jutzi via Talk
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 4:09 PM
To: Chris Grabowski; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: How can I set up Google Chrome to be totally accessible.

What advantage is there in using Chrome over IE, if any?

On 3/6/2015 9:18 AM, Chris Grabowski via Talk wrote:
> Hello,
> If you are running 9.1 you'll  just download and install Chrome.
>
> You can download it from:
> http://chrome.google.com
>
>
> After doing that Chrome should just work.
>
> Thanks,
> Chris
>
>
> Window-Eyes Product Support
> Ai Squared
> 725 Airport North Office Park
> Fort Wayne, IN 46825
> (802) 362-3612
> www.aisquared.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Trent Fogle via Talk
> Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 11:55 AM
> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
> Subject: How can I set up Google Chrome to be totally accessible.
>
> Hello.
> Chris from Aisquared please forgive me if you were still going to send me
the directions on how to set up Chrome.
> Please don't think I'm inpatient.
> But if anybody else has any other ideas on how to set it up to be totally
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> Thanks.
> Trent Fogle.
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Re: How can I set up Google Chrome to be totally accessible.

2015-03-06 Thread brendoncdono...@icloud.com via Talk

Hi, that is correct! Thank you.

Warm Regards, Brendon Donohue

On 7 Mar 2015, at 5:34 am, Bill Scherer via Talk  
wrote:

I believe it's also safer than Internet exploder.
Bill

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+bspro=comcast@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of bob jutzi via Talk
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 4:09 PM
To: Chris Grabowski; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: How can I set up Google Chrome to be totally accessible.

What advantage is there in using Chrome over IE, if any?

> On 3/6/2015 9:18 AM, Chris Grabowski via Talk wrote:
> Hello,
> If you are running 9.1 you'll  just download and install Chrome.
> 
> You can download it from:
> http://chrome.google.com
> 
> 
> After doing that Chrome should just work.
> 
> Thanks,
> Chris
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> Chris from Aisquared please forgive me if you were still going to send me
the directions on how to set up Chrome.
> Please don't think I'm inpatient.
> But if anybody else has any other ideas on how to set it up to be totally
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> Thanks.
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wlm app version 3.1

2015-03-06 Thread Jeff Weiss via Talk

I wasn’t getting the number of items in each folder, then I went back to 
wlm.wepm version 3.1.  
The number of items in each folder is back!!!

Jeff Weiss


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Re: Thunderbird problems

2015-03-06 Thread Jim via Talk

Hi there!
I agree, I had a very similar problem and after upgrading my ThunderBird
I have not had any problems at all. Give it a try. Actually this
suggestion came from AISquared not from me. Thanks and 73 de
.

On 06-Mar-15 14:27, brendoncdono...@icloud.com via Talk wrote:

Hi, I would try to use the latest version of Thunderbird! Try this and see if
it resolved your issue.thanks.

Warm Regards, Brendon Donohue

On 7 Mar 2015, at 5:25 am, Donald L. Roberts via Talk
wrote:

Thanks for the improvements as they are much appreciated.

Don Roberts
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Caps Pitch Thanks And Got It

Thanks for all the suggestions.

I have enough to go on for now.

Later and see you on the flip side of the weedkend all.

Rick USA

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Re: window-eyes 9.1

2015-03-06 Thread Butch Bussen via Talk

I hope not for some time.  I still run quite a few machines for various 
things running xp and other than a little sluggish in some cases, things 
seem to work fine..

73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


On Fri, 6 Mar 2015, Doug Geoffray via Talk wrote:


Hui,

Assuming the Flash itself is accessible (most Flash is not) it is
supported out of browse mode.

As for XP we do not go out of our way to block it in 9.0 or 9.1 but we
also do not support it or test with it.  Meaning use at your own risk
but to be honest, from the feedback I've been hearing it still works as
it did.  But again, our support department will not provide any support
for XP.  Likely XP will be blocked at some point.

Doug


On 3/6/2015 6:26 AM, hui thian via Talk wrote:

Hi, kindly advise is window-eyes 9.1 able to support web sites using flash? is 
xp supported as well? thanks
Best Regards
Hui Thian
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RE: How can I set up Google Chrome to be totally accessible.

I think another Chris responded and said to get the installer from ninite.com.

http://www.ninite.com/chrome

This should download a small install file that you run and it'll install Chrome.


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-Original Message-
From: Brad Hodges [mailto:brad.hod...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 2:06 PM
To: Chris Grabowski; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: How can I set up Google Chrome to be totally accessible.

Chris, oh that it were so. After following the "download" link and then 
"download" for Windows, there is something, perhaps a popover which 
causes WE to stop reading. Something about Google 1, but no clue about 
Chrome download. If you want to deploy your hard work, please give us a 
clean working install path.

Best,

Brad
On 3/6/2015 12:18 PM, Chris Grabowski via Talk wrote:
> Hello,
> If you are running 9.1 you'll  just download and install Chrome.
>
> You can download it from:
> http://chrome.google.com
>
>
> After doing that Chrome should just work.
>
> Thanks,
> Chris
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> [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
> Behalf Of Trent Fogle via Talk
> Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 11:55 AM
> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
> Subject: How can I set up Google Chrome to be totally accessible.
>
> Hello.
> Chris from Aisquared please forgive me if you were still going to send me the 
> directions on how to set up Chrome.
> Please don't think I'm inpatient.
> But if anybody else has any other ideas on how to set it up to be totally 
> accessible especially for the totally blind, that would be appreciated too.
> Thanks.
> Trent Fogle.
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Re: Thunderbird problems

2015-03-06 Thread Dennis via Talk

it's not the version of tb there is a security setting that you can 
change to not have it idenitify as spam


On 3/6/2015 2:25 PM, Donald L. Roberts via Talk wrote:

Since updating to Window-eyes 9.1 on this 8.1 desktop, I have found Thunderbird 
24.6 to be almost unusable.  Arrowing through the message list does not seem to 
be problematic unless I up or downarrow too quickly in which case one or more 
programs crash, although I am not sure whether the problem is Window-eyes or 
Eloquence.  I do know for certain that Thunderbird 24.6 crashes because, if W E 
is still running, I can go to the task manager where I get the message asking 
whether I wish to wait for the program or close it, the program being 
Thunderbird 24.6.  After such crashes, pressing control alt W does not always 
cause W E to resume.

I am now at least temporarily using the Outlook Express hack if or until I can 
resolve the Thunderbird issues.  I know some tend to say almost automatically 
that I should upgrade to the latest Thunderbird.  But I am reluctant to do so 
because of the constant nags about Thunderbird thinks that some messages are 
spam.

In other areas, Window-Eyes 9.1 is working well for me unless I move around the 
screen too rapidly.  In 9.0, I had thought there were problems with the f8 copy 
command but later found that this command works far better with Notepad or 
Wordpad than it does with Ed sharp.

Thanks for the improvements as they are much appreciated.

Don Roberts
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RE: Thunderbird problems

Hi,
Upgrade to 31.5 and that should resolve the issue.

Thanks,
Chris

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-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Donald L. Roberts via Talk
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 2:26 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Thunderbird problems

Since updating to Window-eyes 9.1 on this 8.1 desktop, I have found Thunderbird 
24.6 to be almost unusable.  Arrowing through the message list does not seem to 
be problematic unless I up or downarrow too quickly in which case one or more 
programs crash, although I am not sure whether the problem is Window-eyes or 
Eloquence.  I do know for certain that Thunderbird 24.6 crashes because, if W E 
is still running, I can go to the task manager where I get the message asking 
whether I wish to wait for the program or close it, the program being 
Thunderbird 24.6.  After such crashes, pressing control alt W does not always 
cause W E to resume.  

I am now at least temporarily using the Outlook Express hack if or until I can 
resolve the Thunderbird issues.  I know some tend to say almost automatically 
that I should upgrade to the latest Thunderbird.  But I am reluctant to do so 
because of the constant nags about Thunderbird thinks that some messages are 
spam.  

In other areas, Window-Eyes 9.1 is working well for me unless I move around the 
screen too rapidly.  In 9.0, I had thought there were problems with the f8 copy 
command but later found that this command works far better with Notepad or 
Wordpad than it does with Ed sharp.

Thanks for the improvements as they are much appreciated.

Don Roberts
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RE: How can I set up Google Chrome to be totally accessible.

This is a known issue.
Thanks,
Chris

Thanks,
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-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 2:25 PM
To: 'christopher hallsworth'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: How can I set up Google Chrome to be totally accessible.

Hello list. I just installed google chrome, and when I read several
websites, and I use the up and down arrow keys, Window-eyes reads, but
sometimes it cuts off the first letter. For example. When it gets to the
word badly, when its reading a sentence, it will acaisonally say bad y.
anyways to fix it? Thanks, Sky

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of christopher hallsworth via Talk
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 11:11 AM
To: Chris Grabowski; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: How can I set up Google Chrome to be totally accessible.

Even better, get Chrome here
www.ninite.com/chrome
or check the Chrome check box on the main Ninite website and click get
installer button. The last computer I had, Chrome could not work at all; it
would simply crash. Hope it works on my new computer since I have Chrome on
my mac and it's a good browser, especially if it has in-built flash.
> On 6 Mar 2015, at 17:18, Chris Grabowski via Talk
 wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> If you are running 9.1 you'll  just download and install Chrome.
> 
> You can download it from:
> http://chrome.google.com
> 
> 
> After doing that Chrome should just work.
> 
> Thanks,
> Chris
> 
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> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Trent Fogle via Talk
> Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 11:55 AM
> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
> Subject: How can I set up Google Chrome to be totally accessible.
> 
> Hello.
> Chris from Aisquared please forgive me if you were still going to send me
the directions on how to set up Chrome.
> Please don't think I'm inpatient.
> But if anybody else has any other ideas on how to set it up to be totally
accessible especially for the totally blind, that would be appreciated too.
> Thanks.
> Trent Fogle.
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Re: Please help!

2015-03-06 Thread Raj via Talk

hanks.

- Original Message - 
From: "Reeva Webb via Talk" 
To: "Steve Jacobson" ; "Window-Eyes Discussion 
List" 

Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: Please help!

You need to go into the settings for gmail and enable login from less
secure apps.  I had to do this when I was setting up my gmail with 
outlook,

after you enable login from less secure apps things should work.

Reeva

On Friday, March 6, 2015, Steve Jacobson via Talk <
talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

Please keep in mind that this kind of email does not mean that there is 
an

intrusion.  Sometimes when one sets up a
new device to get mail from GMAIL this gets triggered, particularly if 
one

is in a different location.  Sometimes
you simply have to log into GMail using the web and follow some
instructions that verifies that the activity is all
right.  For example, I got this message when I set up my cellphone to
receive a GMail account.  If you have not set
up any new devices or computers to receive mail from the particular GMail
account, then it is probably a very good
idea to change your password because someone might be messing with the
account.  However, if you just tried setting
up another computer or other device to get mail from the affected 
account,

then you probably don't need to change
the password, just log into GMail on the web.  Also, the location given
isn't necessarily going to be where you are
but may relate to an IP address.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Fri, 06 Mar 2015 20:32:28 +1000, brendoncdono...@icloud.com
 via Talk wrote:

>Hi, so did you undertake the steps in this email? Changing the password?
Did this help? Please advise.thanks.

>Warm Regards, Brendon Donohue

>On 6 Mar 2015, at 8:26 pm, RajTribhuwan via Talk <
talk@lists.window-eyes.com > wrote:

>Hello guys,
>I don't have the patience right now to venture in to the google/gmail
jungle
>to figure this one out, so seeking your knowledge/help.

>When I try to import gmail messages through a mail client such as 
>outlook

or
>window mail, it gives an error message, whether imap or pop. and when I
look
>at the account through the web/internet, I see a mail from google saying
>something like this:

>Subject: Google Account: sign-in attempt blocked
>

>   Hi Sonny,

>We recently blocked a sign-in attempt to your Google Account r...@gmail.com
.
>Sign in attempt details
>Date & Time: Saturday, February 28, 10:05 AM EST
>Location: Toronto, ON, Canada
>If this wasn't you
>Please review your Account Activity page at
>https://security.google.com/settings/security/activity to see if 
>anything

>looks suspicious. Whoever tried to sign in to your account knows your
>password; we recommend that you change it right away.
>If this was you
>You can switch to an app made by Google such as Gmail to access your
account
>(recommended) or change your settings at
>https://www.google.com/settings/security/lesssecureapps so that your
account
>is no longer protected by modern security standards.

>To learn more, see https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255.

>Sincerely,
>The Google Accounts team
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>You received this mandatory email service announcement to update you 
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Re: Thunderbird problems

2015-03-06 Thread Dennis via Talk

	I am having no issues with tb 31.4 other then a issue with the tb 
enhance app. I would upgrade to the latest version.


On 3/6/2015 2:25 PM, Donald L. Roberts via Talk wrote:

Since updating to Window-eyes 9.1 on this 8.1 desktop, I have found Thunderbird 
24.6 to be almost unusable.  Arrowing through the message list does not seem to 
be problematic unless I up or downarrow too quickly in which case one or more 
programs crash, although I am not sure whether the problem is Window-eyes or 
Eloquence.  I do know for certain that Thunderbird 24.6 crashes because, if W E 
is still running, I can go to the task manager where I get the message asking 
whether I wish to wait for the program or close it, the program being 
Thunderbird 24.6.  After such crashes, pressing control alt W does not always 
cause W E to resume.

I am now at least temporarily using the Outlook Express hack if or until I can 
resolve the Thunderbird issues.  I know some tend to say almost automatically 
that I should upgrade to the latest Thunderbird.  But I am reluctant to do so 
because of the constant nags about Thunderbird thinks that some messages are 
spam.

In other areas, Window-Eyes 9.1 is working well for me unless I move around the 
screen too rapidly.  In 9.0, I had thought there were problems with the f8 copy 
command but later found that this command works far better with Notepad or 
Wordpad than it does with Ed sharp.

Thanks for the improvements as they are much appreciated.

Don Roberts
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Re: wlm and 9.1

Hi,
Mine started working after I switched to one line view.

-Original Message- 
From: Casey via Talk

Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 12:59 PM
To: Danny ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: wlm and 9.1

Hi after upgrading my window-eyes this morning.
My read and unread status doesn't read in windows live mail either.
I even changed from two line view to single line view.
And that didn't fix anything.
Also I disabled the windows live mail app also with know change either.
So how do you fix this/
It worked just fine before the upgrade to 9.1.

On 3/6/2015 11:42 AM, Danny via Talk wrote:

What I find interesting is that the status shows in all folders
except for the one that contains the messages from the WE list.

Danny

-Original Message- From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 11:09 AM
To: Steve Jacobson ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: wlm and 9.1

I have single line view set and still don't get the status 
line

since I downloaded WE 9.1..
Pastor Gil

-Original Message- From: Steve Jacobson via Talk
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 8:03 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: wlm and 9.1

That happens if you have the two-line view selected in the View Layout
settings.  If you change back to one-line
view, you should get everything read including the message status.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Fri, 6 Mar 2015 07:49:46 -0600, tchild via Talk wrote:

Hi Doug,
I haven't changed anything. I just downloaded the 9.1 this morning and
when
I opened WLM after doing so. As I arrow down the list of messages it no
longer read anything but the subject of each message.
Tony

-Original Message- From: Doug Geoffray via Talk
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 7:25 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: wlm and 9.1

Tony,

The status is reading fine for me in my Windows Live Mail and I've not
heard of this being a problem.  Are you sure you have that column
enabled in Windows Live Mail itself?

As for the count, yes, this did regress.  I'm sure we can do something
in the Windows Live Mail app to clean this up.  We just need a chance to
get to it.

Doug

On 3/6/2015 8:15 AM, tchild via Talk wrote:

Hi,
The number of unread messages isnâ¬"t read and then in the message
list it
no longer telles you if a message has been read or unread?
Tony
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Re: kaspersky security suite

2015-03-06 Thread brendoncdono...@icloud.com via Talk

Hello, don't use it! It is not accessible.use clanwin antivirus! From 
www.clanwin.com/let me know how you go with this? Thank you.

Warm Regards, Brendon Donohue

On 7 Mar 2015, at 3:41 am, Jim via Talk  wrote:

> On 06-Mar-15 11:27, Brice Mijares via Talk wrote:
> Has anyone had any luck with  this Kaspersky security? I had some work
> done on my laptop and they gave me a one year free subscription for
> this security suite. To me, it's inaccessible.
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   Bryce, hopefully I spelled your name correctly..? I have ran this security 
system and no it isn't very accessible.  I have the gentleman who does my 
computer work help me with it when it needs updated.  Once it is set up you 
really don't need to do anything since it runs totally in the background as I 
understand.  One thing I will say is that I have had this package on my system 
since the summer of 2012 and have never been bothered with any sort of viruses 
spyware or even much in the way of anoying popups.  So if you can keep it 
updated I think you will like it since it is very low maintenance.  Just my two 
sense worth for whatever that might be worth.  THANKS &73 de
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RE: Right Arrow Problem in WE 9.1

Hi,
Make sure you go to  cursor keys/keys and set the first action for right arrow 
to character after.  Make sure second action is set to none.

When I go to notepad and type
This is a test
I press home and I hear T.
I press the right arrow and  hear the letter H, again I hear I etc.  I would 
not expect to hear the letter T when hitting right arrow as I am on the letter 
T and just moved away from it.
If I press control-numpad 4 to  read the current character after pressing the 
right arrow I would expect to hear the character again that was announced.

Try turning off apps to see if the issue may be caused by an installed app.
Apps/app management/app status/off.

Thanks,
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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Dave Basden via Talk
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 11:38 AM
To: fender...@sbcglobal.net; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: Right Arrow Problem in WE 9.1

Hi  Lou,

If I press the home key to move to the beginning of the line where 
the word "tes" is located, the cursor will be on the first "t" in 
tes.  If I then press right arrow, the cursor moves to the "e" and 
reads "t", which is the prior key after the cursor has moved.  At 
least that is how it has always been.  In WE 9.1 the computer beeps 
on the first press of right arrow and reads the "t" on the second 
press of right arrow.  At that point the cursor is on the "e" in test 
as it should be.  In other words, the first press of right arrow does nothing.
At 11:46 PM 3/5/2015, you wrote:
>My right arrow cursoring key is set to character after and it works as I
>would expect. My understanding is that if I set the WE right arrow key to
>read prior character after instead of character after, Window-Eyes is going
>to read the character to the left of the character beside the cursor. So if
>I were going to read the word car letter by letter, WE would say space when
>the cursor passed the letter C, the letter c when the cursor passed the
>letter a, and the letter r when the cursor passed the space after the letter
>r.
>
>Lou N.
>
>-Original Message-
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>Behalf Of Dave Basden via Talk
>Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 4:19 PM
>To: cov...@ccs.covici.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>Subject: Right Arrow Problem in WE 9.1
>
>My right arrow is set to read prior character after.  When I move to
>the beginning of a line and press right arrow, I get a beep.  It
>takes a second press to actually move and read the first character on
>the line.  This did not happen in WE 9.0 or any earlier version.
>
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Copy and Paste

2015-03-06 Thread Dulce Muccio Weisenborn via Talk

I've never been successful cutting and pasting with WE 9.0 on a Win 7 and
Win 8 machine.  Is 9.1 better?.

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RE: Caps Pitch Control

2015-03-06 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk

Hi Rick,

Would you be interested in a copy of the beeper wav file which at least
would be of lower volume?
Give me an idea of the percentage lower and I will reduce the volume and
send it along.

Hth,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 11:55 AM
To: 'David'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'; 'gosselin_louis'; 'Chris
Grabowski'
Subject: RE: Caps Pitch Control

One more thing David:
If it is so easy to do why havent you done it or why don't you do it?
I havent worked with the scripting model in several years and would have a
steep learning curve for the WE Object Model again and if it would take you
no time to do why don't you just create a quick one and be the scriptor of
record for a solution that several folks would appreciate.
It would take me allot longer given the fact I would have to ReLearn the
scripting Object Model and review the vb scripting syntax as well as use of
the WE Platform Development model all while working outside the Development
Platform I am accustomed to.
But you could throw a couple of lines of code together in what, half an hour
to solve this problem?
If so it may have been faster to develop a script and post up an answer to
my posting rather than the time it took you to type that lengthly rant about
me being able to develop a script in a few lines in a few minutes.
I wasn't sure but, Ya, I am insulted at your posting indeed and you hurt my
feelings.
Rick USA


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Re: kaspersky security suite

2015-03-06 Thread brendoncdono...@icloud.com via Talk

Hi, my apologies.try this link! Sorry for the inconvenience cause.Hello, don't 
use it! It is not accessible.use clanwin antivirus! From www.clanwin.com/ let 
me know how you go with this? Thank you.

Warm Regards, Brendon Donohue

On 7 Mar 2015, at 3:41 am, Jim via Talk  wrote:

> On 06-Mar-15 11:27, Brice Mijares via Talk wrote:
> Has anyone had any luck with  this Kaspersky security? I had some work
> done on my laptop and they gave me a one year free subscription for
> this security suite. To me, it's inaccessible.
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  Bryce, hopefully I spelled your name correctly..? I have ran this security 
system and no it isn't very accessible.  I have the gentleman who does my 
computer work help me with it when it needs updated.  Once it is set up you 
really don't need to do anything since it runs totally in the background as I 
understand.  One thing I will say is that I have had this package on my system 
since the summer of 2012 and have never been bothered with any sort of viruses 
spyware or even much in the way of anoying popups.  So if you can keep it 
updated I think you will like it since it is very low maintenance.  Just my two 
sense worth for whatever that might be worth.  THANKS &73 de
.
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browse mode error when booting

2015-03-06 Thread net bat via Talk

since i updated from w e 9.0 to 9.1 i have randomly getting the errer that 
the enhanced browse mode was not supported by my version of window eyes and 
to contackt i square.

is this a app update i need? or is this a new w e 9.1 bug?
win7 home 64bit


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Re: wlm and 9.1

I don't know what that is, because I am in single line view, and it still 
says whether a message is read or unread.  The thing that has always baffled 
me since I got my braille display and could check: instead of saying read (r 
e a d), or unread (u n r e a d), it says red: (r e d) and unred ( u n r e 
d)!  Has anybody else noticed that?  Pam.


-Original Message- 
From: Casey via Talk

Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 1:59 PM
To: Danny ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: wlm and 9.1

Hi after upgrading my window-eyes this morning.
My read and unread status doesn't read in windows live mail either.
I even changed from two line view to single line view.
And that didn't fix anything.
Also I disabled the windows live mail app also with know change either.
So how do you fix this/
It worked just fine before the upgrade to 9.1.



On 3/6/2015 11:42 AM, Danny via Talk wrote:

What I find interesting is that the status shows in all folders
except for the one that contains the messages from the WE list.

Danny

-Original Message- From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 11:09 AM
To: Steve Jacobson ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: wlm and 9.1

I have single line view set and still don't get the status 
line

since I downloaded WE 9.1..
Pastor Gil

-Original Message- From: Steve Jacobson via Talk
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 8:03 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: wlm and 9.1

That happens if you have the two-line view selected in the View Layout
settings.  If you change back to one-line
view, you should get everything read including the message status.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Fri, 6 Mar 2015 07:49:46 -0600, tchild via Talk wrote:


Hi Doug,
I haven't changed anything. I just downloaded the 9.1 this morning and
when
I opened WLM after doing so. As I arrow down the list of messages it no
longer read anything but the subject of each message.
Tony



-Original Message- From: Doug Geoffray via Talk
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 7:25 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: wlm and 9.1



Tony,



The status is reading fine for me in my Windows Live Mail and I've not
heard of this being a problem.  Are you sure you have that column
enabled in Windows Live Mail itself?



As for the count, yes, this did regress.  I'm sure we can do something
in the Windows Live Mail app to clean this up.  We just need a chance to
get to it.



Doug




On 3/6/2015 8:15 AM, tchild via Talk wrote:

Hi,
The number of unread messages isnâ¬"t read and then in the message
list it
no longer telles you if a message has been read or unread?
Tony
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Re: kaspersky security suite

It was put on my old Gateway computer, and all it did was get in the way all 
the time because I couldn't do anything with it.  Pam.

-Original Message- 
From: brendoncdono...@icloud.com via Talk

Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 3:54 PM
To: wohlg...@gmail.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: kaspersky security suite

Hello, don't use it! It is not accessible.use clanwin antivirus! From 
www.clanwin.com/let me know how you go with this? Thank you.

Warm Regards, Brendon Donohue

On 7 Mar 2015, at 3:41 am, Jim via Talk  wrote:

On 06-Mar-15 11:27, Brice Mijares via Talk wrote:
Has anyone had any luck with  this Kaspersky security? I had some work
done on my laptop and they gave me a one year free subscription for
this security suite. To me, it's inaccessible.
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  Bryce, hopefully I spelled your name correctly..? I have ran this 
security system and no it isn't very accessible.  I have the gentleman who 
does my computer work help me with it when it needs updated.  Once it is set 
up you really don't need to do anything since it runs totally in the 
background as I understand.  One thing I will say is that I have had this 
package on my system since the summer of 2012 and have never been bothered 
with any sort of viruses spyware or even much in the way of anoying popups. 
So if you can keep it updated I think you will like it since it is very low 
maintenance.  Just my two sense worth for whatever that might be worth. 
THANKS &73 de

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