Re[2]: TUTORIAL
Hello ETM, Saturday, August 3, 2002, 5:35:38 AM, you wrote: E I was not successful in importing 3 gig of OE6 mail into TB, but E I did import addresses into TB. 3Gb? Jesus, that is quit a lot of email! :-) -- Best regards, Michael No one's tall anymore. They're vertically enhanced. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: TBUDL Bandwidth
Hi flash, On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, at 08:54:26 [GMT +0700 (JAVT)] (02:54 where I live) you wrote: fwn On Sat, Aug 03, 2002 at 03:33:03AM +0700, Syafril Hermansyah wrote: I think what he meant to say was ...Who have access to e-mail but not the www. Yupe, it is common in big company. fwn If that is the case, I consider subscribing to TB* lists using fwn such a company email address is impolite. I suggest to unsub fwn this kind of user from TB* lists. One should use this kind of fwn account for his job related correspondences only. fwn -flash and if that company uses The Bat! for email It is up to the company to mandate email usages, not us. -- 03 August 2002, 11:11 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Private key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] No man is an island. But some of us are long peninsulas. All messages both into and out of this account have been scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. However, all attachments should be scanned also with a virus checker at the receiver's end to ensure that the files are clean and free of virus infection. All messages are for the attention of the recipient only. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
problems installing new(ish) versions
Hello TBUDL, I have found that on my win98 se2 machine I cannot install any of the more recent versions than 1.60c. The the_bat.exe just hour glasses for a couple of seconds and then nothing. The same for the intpack.exe I have tried uninstalled norton anti virus and even updated to the latest msi (Microsoft Installer engine) [not believing that TB! would need it of course] and still nothing. any ideas ? -- many thanks, davidp mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.60c on Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: No Exit
Hello Thomas, Friday, July 26, 2002, 3:42:48 AM, you wrote: T Hello John, T On Thu, 25 Jul 2002 18:46:28 +1000 GMT (25/07/02, 15:46 +0700 GMT), T John Phillips wrote: Some tasks are now active Do you want to exit when they are finished? Yes// No // JP IMO this is an annoying bug. In my case Bat! thinks I am still trying to JP download, when a bum connection has forced me to cancel the job. JP Bat! will not close with this annoying message. T I confirm this bug. But then, is it a bug, or is just the third button T missing, the one called Kill the tasks? comeon! it's a bug!!! drives me BATTY! :) Laura Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: TUTORIAL
ETM, At 12:35 AM on Saturday, August 03, 2002 you [E] wrote the following about [TUTORIAL]: E [...] I was not successful in importing 3 gig of OE6 mail E into TB, but I did import addresses into TB. [/...] I wonder if Mailbag Assistant would have helped in this transition. [fookes software] -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.62/Beta1/W2K_SP2 ICQ 41116329 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
TBOT??
Hi, Dear Bat's users I've already subscribed to the TBOT forum, thanks for the URL, guys! but, to my surprise I didn't received a single posting from TBOT forum for the whole day?? is it always been this quiet?? or.is that I gonna activate it somewhere to receive the posting thru TB?? sorry if this question sound stupid to you all hope u guy can enlighten me just curious Best regards, Jason Primary e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: TBOT??
On Sat, 2002-08-03 at 07:34, Jason wrote: Hi, Dear Bat's users I've already subscribed to the TBOT forum, thanks for the URL, guys! but, to my surprise I didn't received a single posting from TBOT forum for the whole day?? is it always been this quiet?? or.is that I gonna activate it somewhere to receive the posting thru TB?? Yesterday was a quiet day on TBOT. Sometimes it gets like that, all mailing lists do. I'm on one where I've not had a post in over a month, but every now and again, it spikes up, and there is a flurry of posts. It isn't unusual. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) PGP Keys : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=SendKeys Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: TUTORIAL
Fri, 2 Aug 2002 23:09:04[GMT -0300] (10:09 PM EDST) KoMpLoT wrote: looking for a good tutorial about how to config and use TB! at max! thanks! A way around a tutorial, per se: Menu Navigator will help you find out how to use the menu to accomplish the things whose name you can guess. Just click on the [?] at the top of the window and search for a word for what your trying to do. For instance: [?] | shortcutsyields: Main Menu - View - Edit shortcuts Using The Bat! v1.60q/Post3 on Windows 95 4.0 Build B -- Daniel A. Grunberg Kensington, Maryland, USA homepage: www.nyx.net/~dgrunber/ Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: TUTORIAL
Hello Daniel, Saturday, August 3, 2002, 12:01:49 PM, you wrote: DG Fri, 2 Aug 2002 23:09:04[GMT -0300] (10:09 PM EDST) KoMpLoT wrote: looking for a good tutorial about how to config and use TB! at max! thanks! DG A way around a tutorial, per se: Menu Navigator will help you find out DG how to use the menu to accomplish the things whose name you can guess. DG Just click on the [?] at the top of the window and search for a word DG for what your trying to do. For instance: DG [?] | shortcutsyields: DG Main Menu - View - Edit shortcuts DG Using The Bat! v1.60q/Post3 DG on Windows 95 4.0 Build B alright, Thanks to all of you for helping me with TB! -- Best regards, KoMpLoTmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: TUTORIAL
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, at 12:15:44 [GMT -0300], KoMpLoT wrote: K alright, K Thanks to all of you for helping me with TB! Wow, bottom posted with TB! I wish the people I support at work were so responsive. We may have a new expert here soon. and thank YOU, Mike Yetto - -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=MAY:PGP_Key E-mailed using The Bat! v1.61 running on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBPUv1Jtkz/SR3Uv4yEQL7OwCg6+rXBgnLhxWVT0pv4rPvJYrUH9EAni+h oDqAfQ5Uak9/ft0BZJxi0BI+ =/5wC -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: problems installing new(ish) versions
Hello David, On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 19:12:28 +0800 GMT (03/08/02, 18:12 +0700 GMT), David Pascoe wrote: DP I have tried uninstalled norton anti virus and even updated to the latest DP msi (Microsoft Installer engine) [not believing that TB! would need it of DP course] and still nothing. I don't know what MSI is or should be good for. Can you just disable it and then install TB? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Failed bar exam with relatively high grades. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: No Exit
Hello alists, On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 04:03:44 -0700 GMT (03/08/02, 18:03 +0700 GMT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JP Bat! will not close with this annoying message. T I confirm this bug. But then, is it a bug, or is just the third T button missing, the one called Kill the tasks? awc comeon! it's a bug!!! drives me BATTY! awc :) OK, OK! Send it to the bugtracker, you have my support. ;-) I would think this is a Connection Center bug (as this is where the tasks are not being closed), and this is a good time to report it, as they are working on the ConCen now (I got word from Max yesterday). -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. ...und wir gingen mit unserer Lehrerin im Park spazieren. Gegenueber dem Park war ein Haus, wo die Muetter ihre Kinder gebaeren. Eine Gebaermutter schaute aus dem Fenster und winkte uns freudig zu. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: TUTORIAL
Hello KoMpLoT, Friday, August 2, 2002, 11:39:04 PM, you wrote: K Hi ppl!, looking for a good tutorial about how to config and use TB! at max! K thanks! To the Max, you say. Well, we'll need to know where Max is! LOL! Try Help Topics/Contents... Gettings Started with the Bat/ Setup Does that cover everything, to get started? -- Best regards, Adam Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: a real mystery
Hallo Jan, On Fri, 2 Aug 2002 17:30:08 -0400GMT (2-8-02, 23:30 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: JR Suddenly I can't delete msgs from any folder. If I click JR on the waste basket icon or DEL, the result is the same, JR my system locks up for a few seconds. Close TB Delete the messages.tbi file from the malfunctioning folders (including Trash) Run Scandisk Start TB and try to delete messages again JR I do have a few unreadable addresses on my HD. I'm JR wondering if that could have anything to do with it? Possibly. That's the reason for the scandisk part. JR Ideas anyone? That's all what this is: ideas. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: a real mystery
Hi Roelof. Thanks for replying to my msg. At 11:41 AM on Saturday, August 03, 2002 you [RO] wrote the following about [a real mystery]: JR Suddenly I can't delete msgs from any folder. If I click JR on the waste basket icon or DEL, the result is the same, JR my system locks up for a few seconds. RO Close TB RO Delete the messages.tbi file from the malfunctioning folders RO (including Trash) RO Run Scandisk RO Start TB and try to delete messages again Followed steps 1-3. Don't have scandisk/ used chkdsk reports file record segments unreadable 90276 thru 90287, unrecoverable problems. After re-starting TB!, same symptoms. I also re-installed current beta thinking it might have been corrupted. same symptoms. I installed last release v1.61. same symptoms. I returned to current beta. I have msgs out to dell forums tech support. Anyone else have some thoughts on this situation. TIA -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.62/Beta1/W2K_SP2 ICQ 41116329 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: problems installing new(ish) versions
Hello Thomas! On Saturday, August 3, 2002 at 5:04:05 PM you wrote: I don't know what MSI is or should be good for. It's the worst way to install a software. Sadly lots of application - guess, which ones most - use it today to update themselves or even install themselves completely *on line*! It's the programme you need (it will be installed automatically for it) if you try to get IE onto your HD. -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.61 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C He who hesitates is probably right. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: TBOT??
Hello Jonathan! On Saturday, August 3, 2002 at 3:38:05 PM you wrote: Yesterday was a quiet day on TBOT. Sometimes it gets like that, all mailing lists do. I'm on one where I've not had a post in over a month, One month, puh. I am subscribed to several lists (incl. FinePrint's and GRC's) which haven't generated traffic in over three, sometimes nearly 12 months. -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.61 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Es ist das Los der Unbescholtenen, im Falle eines Unglückes gleich jegliches Glück zu verlieren. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: a real mystery
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Jan Rifkinson [JR] wrote: JR I have msgs out to dell forums tech support. JR Anyone else have some thoughts on this situation. Only that I don't think your problem is TB! related and only that TB! has suffered as a result of it. Sending messages to Dell tech support is more the way to go. I don't know how old your Dell is but mine has a hard disk diagnostic included in the BIOS. I hit CTRL+ALT+D when the machine is just starting up and this will start the HD diagnostics. It was it that alerted me to an impending hard disk failure when I started having strange problems which included losing access to one of my TB! message bases which was deleted upon running a check disk. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.61 | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.91 (Win32) iD8DBQE9TA4CV8nrYCsHF+IRAtSMAKDe8rZ4CnH/FKPQbS69Z8PZP0tJGQCfVm6P gVOICyVZgMCr5rIE/YVtfe8= =DcYF -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: a real mystery
Hello Jan, On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 12:53:52 -0400 GMT (03/08/02, 23:53 +0700 GMT), Jan Rifkinson wrote: JR Don't have scandisk/ used chkdsk reports file record JR segments unreadable 90276 thru 90287, unrecoverable JR problems. Here is your problem. Some disk utilities will mark those sectors as bad and will not allow the O/S subsystem to use them again. That's what you need, until you get a new HD (timing: soonest). -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Und heisst Du nicht Willi, dann rauch' ich im Wald. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: TBUDL Bandwidth
On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 11:12:25 +0100 Adam Rykala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think what he meant to say was ...Who have access to e-mail but not the www. Yupe, it is common in big company. fwn If that is the case, I consider subscribing to TB* lists using fwn such a company email address is impolite. I suggest to unsub fwn this kind of user from TB* lists. One should use this kind of fwn account for his job related correspondences only. and if that company uses The Bat! for email It is up to the company to mandate email usages, not us. That's the fact, unless the company your owned :-) I saw on a lot of SMER company, there is Mail only no browsing/proxy installed/allowed. -- syafril --- Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: a real mystery
Hi Thomas. At 1:29 PM on Saturday, August 03, 2002 you wrote the following about [a real mystery]: TF [...] Some disk utilities will mark those sectors as TF bad and will not allow the O/S subsystem to use them TF again. That's what you need, [/...] Can you suggest one that works with NTFS rather than FAT32. I had considered Spinrite v5 only to discover that it doesn't work w NTFS. I have a feeling that if I could do this, this particular problem would be solved. Any more of these I would certainly consider changing HDs quickly. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.62/Beta1/W2K_SP2 ICQ 41116329 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: a real mystery
Hi Allie. At 1:08 PM on Saturday, August 03, 2002 you [ACM] wrote the following about [a real mystery]: ACM Only that I don't think your problem is TB! related and ACM only that TB! has suffered as a result of it. Sending ACM messages to Dell tech support is more the way to go. Yeah. well, I'm waiting waiting waiting. I haven't called them because I find their first level tech support not as good recently. Someone from one of the Dell forums suggested Norton systemworks 2001 got him out of a similar problem. I don't have this program. ACM I don't know how old your Dell is but mine has a hard ACM disk diagnostic included in the BIOS. I hit CTRL+ALT+D ACM when the machine is just starting up and this will ACM start the HD diagnostics. I have an 8100 [1 yr old], didn't know it had HD diags in bios so I'll give that a try, too. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.62/Beta1/W2K_SP2 ICQ 41116329 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: TBUDL Bandwidth
Hi Syafril, On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, at 00:45:31 [GMT +0700] (18:45 where I live) you wrote: SH On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 11:12:25 +0100 Adam Rykala SH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think what he meant to say was ...Who have access to e-mail but not the www. Yupe, it is common in big company. fwn If that is the case, I consider subscribing to TB* lists using fwn such a company email address is impolite. I suggest to unsub fwn this kind of user from TB* lists. One should use this kind of fwn account for his job related correspondences only. and if that company uses The Bat! for email It is up to the company to mandate email usages, not us. SH That's the fact, unless the company your owned :-) SH I saw on a lot of SMER company, there is Mail only no browsing/proxy SH installed/allowed. Also factor in people on low bandwidth connections.. I think the email footer is pretty low-impact and contains a hell of a lot of info. The other option is a daily post to the list (or weekly) marked Subscriber Info. People could then filter this out as/when required, even from the server without downloading(mm, lets see - am I using an email client that can do that ;-) ) A -- 03 August 2002, 19:12 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Private key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Is OS/2 only half an operating system? All messages both into and out of this account have been scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. However, all attachments should be scanned also with a virus checker at the receiver's end to ensure that the files are clean and free of virus infection. All messages are for the attention of the recipient only. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: a real mystery
Hi Jan, On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, at 14:08:40 [GMT -0400] (19:08 where I live) you wrote: JR Hi Thomas. JR At 1:29 PM on Saturday, August 03, 2002 you wrote the JR following about [a real mystery]: TF [...] Some disk utilities will mark those sectors as TF bad and will not allow the O/S subsystem to use them TF again. That's what you need, [/...] JR Can you suggest one that works with NTFS rather than JR FAT32. I had considered Spinrite v5 only to discover that JR it doesn't work w NTFS. I have a feeling that if I could JR do this, this particular problem would be solved. Any more JR of these I would certainly consider changing HDs JR quickly. I would have from the start. Example, I lost all of my email from 1996-2001 cause of a disk fault... mind you, I was using LookOut at the time. That was all my Westminster correspondance, thousands of emails from user groups, correspondence with friends and colleagues gone - thanks to one HDD sector. Now if I get them, the disc goes. Fortunately I moved over to SCSI at the same time for my system disc as well...! A -- 03 August 2002, 19:15 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Private key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] My keyboard keeps changing what I type. All messages both into and out of this account have been scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. However, all attachments should be scanned also with a virus checker at the receiver's end to ensure that the files are clean and free of virus infection. All messages are for the attention of the recipient only. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: a real mystery
Hello Jan Thank you for your email dated Saturday, August 3, 2002, 7:08:40 PM, in which you wrote: JR Can you suggest one that works with NTFS www.ontrack.co.uk have a product called EasyRecovery pro. Expensive, it's in excess of £100 but it's very good. They may offer a trial period. I haven't been following this thread so I may not fully understand your predicament/requirements. -- Regards William Flying with The Bat! 1.61 www.ritlabs.com/the_bat Windows 2000 Pro 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Size exceeding and autoreply
Hello all. I need your help. I setup an account to delete message greater than 312K. Is there a possibility to send an autoreply to the original sender, inform the sender about this delete and kindly ask the sender to send me a message with the file description ? When I receive the message from The Bat! with the size exceeding notice, I need to extract the From header from the message's kludge. Is it possible ? If yes, Please advice how. TIA. Shahar. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: a real mystery
Hello Jan, About the problem you mentioned: JR Suddenly I can't delete msgs from any folder. If I click JR on the waste basket icon or DEL, the result is the same, JR my system locks up for a few seconds. Did you try rebooting the computer? Also, check your hard disk space in that partition. If you're low, that could do it. If that's the case, kill all dupes and compress all folders and if needed, free up disk space by eliminating or moving something else. On this new machine I have TB! ALONE in a 3 gb partition, which should last me a while - but before that the kind of problems you describe occurred from lack of disk space. D Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: a real mystery
Hello again Jan, As I suspected, www.ontrack.com is a little closer to your location and http://www.ontrack.com/special/drquad1.asp is their Data Recovery Center. I see that what they offer is XP compatible so it shoukld work fine with NTFS, Ontrack says it can recover your data or sell you Ontrack EasyRecovery v6 and a few aother options for (I can't get into http://www.ontrack.com/buyonline/#RE7201 for some reason at the moment). There is a trial version that will let you see which files are salvageable once you cough up the cash. D Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Spam filters
I could use some help creating a few more spam filters, currently I have a high ascii filter that works well. I'd like to add a filter that filters all messages that have more than one addressee in the To: or CC: fields. Anyone know if this is possible and how do I do it? Other tips on spam filters most welcome. Headless Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: a real mystery
Hi Douglas. At 3:18 PM on Saturday, August 03, 2002 you wrote the following about [a real mystery]: JR Suddenly I can't delete msgs from any folder. If I click JR on the waste basket icon or DEL, the result is the same, JR my system locks up for a few seconds. DH Did you try rebooting the computer? Also, check your DH hard disk space in that partition. If you're low, that DH could do it. [/...] Thanks for replying to my post. Yes I did reboot my system. I have a 60g HD w a single partition so there's plenty of space -- approx 45g so that shouldn't be the problem. I checked the OnTrack site. I think my problem is not so much one of data recovery but a utility that works with NTFS [not FAT32] which I could use to block the few bad sectors I have fix the one file link which is what I think is affecting TB!. But to the best of my knowledge, I haven't lost any data yet. This problem may require me to remove TB! completely re-install it in a different location but I should have a better utility that MS chkdsk anyway. I want to block off those questionable sectors. I had one person tell me that they had a similar situation which was solved by Norton systemworks 2001 [not 2000, not 2002 he said]. I've located a couple of pro versions of the program pretty cheap on ebay so I'm thinking about that but I'm not really a Norton fan. Also waiting for a Dell tech support reply. I'm game to try almost anything at this point except changing out my HD. Regards, -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.62/Beta1/W2K_SP2 ICQ 41116329 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Spam filters
At 3:41 PM on Saturday, August 03, 2002 Headless [H] wrote the following about [Spam filters]: H I could use some help creating a few more spam filters H [...] Other tips on spam filters most welcome. For starters, why don't you take a look @ FAQ. The URL to this page, which includes a good article on filters spam, is @ the bottom of each every msg. Also you might check the TBUDL archives search spam filters. You will find a raft of msgs on the subject that will also be helpful. Is it possible? Almost anything is possible with TB! :-) -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.62/Beta1/W2K_SP2 ICQ 41116329 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: a real mystery
Hello Jan, [...] Some disk utilities will mark those sectors as bad and will not allow the O/S subsystem to use them again. That's what you need, [/...] Can you suggest one that works with NTFS rather than FAT32. AFAIK NTFS will remember bad sectors itself and won't use them again. So you shouldn't need an extra tool, though I never had a chance to verify this claim ;-) -- Regards, Patrick Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: a real mystery
Hello Jan, 3. avgust 2002, 20:08:40, you wrote: Can you suggest one that works with NTFS rather than FAT32. I had considered Spinrite v5 only to discover that it doesn't work w NTFS. I have a feeling that if I could do this, this particular problem would be solved. Any more of these I would certainly consider changing HDs quickly. You should try to go to your disk manufacturer's website, and download it's recovery tool. Each disk has a few spare sectors, which aren't used by default, but can be mapped into usage, if your disk gets bad sectors (and, because of that, the bad sectors are mapped into unused space; this is better than just using a disk-checking tool to mark the sectors as bad, as you'll be able to use the space those sectors would occupy this way). -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.60d on Windows 2000 5.0.2195.Service Pack 3] The inevitable result of improved communications between different levels in a hierarchy is a vastly increased area of misunderstandi -- Law of Hierachical Communications Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: a real mystery
Jan said: JR ... I think my problem is not so much one of data recovery but a JR utility that works with NTFS [not FAT32] which I could use to JR block the few bad sectors I have fix the one file link which JR is what I think is affecting TB!. But to the best of my JR knowledge, I haven't lost any data yet. JR ... I should have a better utility that MS chkdsk anyway. I want JR to block off those questionable sectors. JR ... I'm not really a Norton fan. Aside from OnTrack (who supplies the installation disks that come w/ many if not most hard drives purchased separately), among the people who have hard disk control down pat are PowerQuest (PartitionMagic other utilities) www.powerquest.com and relatively recently I found two other firms that offer similar applications: Paragon and Acronis. http://www.paragon.ru/n_frame.htm and http://www.acronis.com I am using the Acronis OS Selector and Disk Administrator which has functions similar to PartitionMagic's. I've used it to partition, as well as resize and move partitions and change partitions from one file system format to another, with data and all already installed on the drives. It's worked well for those tasks, but didn't recognize a version of XP Home that I had installed on another hard drive that is there as a slave. So I can't recommend it as a boot manager (until I get that detail resolved after installing another OS like Linux when I have a little more time) but there are a lot of things there that might be useful and the people I dealt with were quite helpful and pleasant to deal with. Take a look at all three sites and you just might find what you're looking for on any or all of them. I'm sure you won't be afraid to use a program from the ex-Soviet Union (Paragon is in St. Petersburg). I was already trying out the Acronis OS Selector when I ran into that one, but what I saw on the website looked very complete. If you need any info regarding the Acronis OS Selector I can check on it's functions for you, since I have a fully functional copy. For instance: I could make a NTFS partition and try to change it to FAT32. Would that help? Acronis also offers something called Acronis Recovery Expert for $29.95 but you might need to have it installed before your problem occurs. Automatically recover ANY partition with ANY file system, including Windows FAT and NTFS, Linux Ext2, Ext3, ReiserFS, Linux SWAP, HPFS, and many more Anyway, there are more options out there than Norton, LookOut Express and Eudora. It this gets too OT, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (the eccopro address) rather than the myrealbox.com address Douglas Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
SORTING THE MAILS
Hi list!, I would like to know how can I sort the mails on a folder in order to get at the begining the newest mails (I've tried with received and created columns, but it doesn't order the mails properly) PS: As you can see I've moved to TB! =), thanks to all of you for your help! -- Regards, KoMpLoT mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SORTING THE MAILS
Hi KoMpLoT, On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, at 20:07:17 [GMT -0300] (00:07 where I live) you wrote: K Hi list!, KI would like to know how can I sort the mails on a folder in order Kto get at the begining the newest mails (I've tried with received Kand created columns, but it doesn't order the mails properly) K PS: As you can see I've moved to TB! =), thanks to all of you for your K help! Tried clicking the headings on the message view? -- 04 August 2002, 00:16 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] To iterate is human; to recurse, divine. All messages both into and out of this account have been scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. However, all attachments should be scanned also with a virus checker at the receiver's end to ensure that the files are clean and free of virus infection. All messages are for the attention of the recipient only. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: problems installing new(ish) versions
Hello David, Saturday, August 3, 2002, 4:12:28 AM, you wrote: DP I have found that on my win98 se2 machine I cannot install any of DP the more recent versions than 1.60c. The the_bat.exe just hour DP glasses for a couple of seconds and then nothing. The same for the DP intpack.exe I haven't had that problem. DP I have tried uninstalled norton anti virus and even updated to the DP latest msi (Microsoft Installer engine) [not believing that TB! DP would need it of course] and still nothing. I don't think that MSI is anything to do with it. I didn't have MSI installed the last time I upgraded The Bat!. I have it now (20 Meg download to install 2 Megs of Cookie Crusher) -- Best regards, Scottmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.60h under Windows 98 4.10 Build A pgp key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1Body=Please%20send%20keys Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
DIGEST
Hi , -- 04 August 2002, 00:32 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] The worst thing about censorship is ÛÛ. All messages both into and out of this account have been scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. However, all attachments should be scanned also with a virus checker at the receiver's end to ensure that the files are clean and free of virus infection. All messages are for the attention of the recipient only. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: SORTING THE MAILS
Hi!, Adam, what? what's that? thanks -- Regards, KoMpLoT mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Adam, wrote: AR Hi KoMpLoT, AR On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, at 20:07:17 [GMT -0300] (00:07 where I live) you wrote: K Hi list!, KI would like to know how can I sort the mails on a folder in order Kto get at the begining the newest mails (I've tried with received Kand created columns, but it doesn't order the mails properly) K PS: As you can see I've moved to TB! =), thanks to all of you for your K help! AR Tried clicking the headings on the message view? Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SORTING THE MAILS
Hi KoMpLoT, On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, at 20:38:51 [GMT -0300] (00:38 where I live) you wrote: K Hi!, Adam, K what? what's that? K thanks All I had to do was click on the heading marked received on the message list view. It sorts mine correctly - how is it wrong? If its reverse - click it again -- 04 August 2002, 00:41 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] 47.5% of all statistics are made up on the spot. All messages both into and out of this account have been scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. However, all attachments should be scanned also with a virus checker at the receiver's end to ensure that the files are clean and free of virus infection. All messages are for the attention of the recipient only. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: SORTING THE MAILS
Hi!, Adam, alright, I will try with that... thanks! -- Regards, KoMpLoT mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Adam, wrote: AR Hi KoMpLoT, AR On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, at 20:38:51 [GMT -0300] (00:38 where I live) you wrote: K Hi!, Adam, K what? what's that? K thanks AR All I had to do was click on the heading marked received on the message list AR view. It sorts mine correctly - how is it wrong? If its reverse - click it AR again Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
USING GnuPG...
Hi list! How can I use GnuPG with TB! ? thanks! PS: I have had it installed since long, and have all the keys created -- Regards, KoMpLoT mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: USING GnuPG...
Hi KoMpLoT, On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, at 21:03:53 [GMT -0300] (01:03 where I live) you wrote: K Hi list! K How can I use GnuPG with TB! ? K thanks! K PS: I have had it installed since long, and have all the keys created Is it installed in the default location c:\gpg? If so then go to Tools menu - OpenPGP - Choose PGP Version Select GPG Then choose Sign or encrypt as required from the Privacy Menu -- 04 August 2002, 01:09 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] 2nd Law of Thermodynamics: Chaos will Reign. All messages both into and out of this account have been scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. However, all attachments should be scanned also with a virus checker at the receiver's end to ensure that the files are clean and free of virus infection. All messages are for the attention of the recipient only. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: USING GnuPG...
Hello Adam, Your headers and signature indicate / suggest you are using TB! with Linux. Is that correct? If so, what Linux and (I assume) win app drivers or emulation are you using? Thanks in advance. Douglas Hinds Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Spam filters
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Headless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to add a filter that filters all messages that have more than one addressee in the To: or CC: fields. Anyone know if this is possible and how do I do it? Hint: addresses in the To: and Cc: fields are separated by a comma. Other tips on spam filters most welcome. Here is a really good one: Kill all e-mail originating from these domains: .+aol\.com .+@yahoo.+ .+@msn\.com .+@.*mail.* .+@excite.+ .+@[0-9]+\. In combination with the usual filtering on messages not directed to my personal mail addresses this one gets me a Spam Elimination Rate of nearly 100% ! Arjan -- 4.4661 Admittedly the signs are still combined with one another even in tautologies and contradictions -- i.e. they stand in certain relations to one another: but these relations have no meaning, they are not essential to the symbol. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Re[2]: SORTING THE MAILS
On Sat, 2002-08-03 at 18:57, KoMpLoT wrote: alright, I will try with that... thanks! Eugh... top replying... an 'awful feature' of outlook. Due to TB!s features, and automatic signature striping, if somebody was to try replying to your email, and keeping context, they'd have to copy and paste the previous email above yours as TB! will cut on the signature delimiter (-- ). It is often hard to keep replies in context this way as well, as to find out what you were replying to, I'd either have to scroll through your email, the reply email, and possibly the text from the mail before it. The best method of replying in most list cases is to quote the parts you want to reply to, and put your reply below the relevant text, such as I am doing here. As for your original email, if you go tot eh folder you wish to sort, then click on the column title you wish to sort by, for example click the subject, and it'll sort by subject. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) PGP Keys : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=SendKeys Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: USING GnuPG...
Hi Douglas, On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, at 19:53:55 [GMT -0500] (01:53 where I live) you wrote: DH Hello Adam, DH Your headers and signature indicate / suggest you are using TB! with DH Linux. Is that correct? If so, what Linux and (I assume) win app DH drivers or emulation are you using? DH Thanks in advance. DH Douglas Hinds DH DH Current Ver: 1.61 DH FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com DH Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] DH Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com DH Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] DH TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] DH Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/ No such luck Douglas! I have an e-smith server (www.e-smith.org) that sits between my home network and the outside world. I'm running Antivir on it, and AVG on the client. -- 04 August 2002, 02:25 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Office of Economic Opportunity All messages both into and out of this account have been scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. However, all attachments should be scanned also with a virus checker at the receiver's end to ensure that the files are clean and free of virus infection. All messages are for the attention of the recipient only. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: USING GnuPG...
Bonjour Adam, Dimanche, le 4 août 2002 à 02h26 [GMT +0100] (ce qui correspond à 03h26 ici où j'habite), Adam Rykala =[AR] a écrit à Douglas Hinds : DH Linux. Is that correct? If so, what Linux and (I assume) win app DH drivers or emulation are you using? As I know TB! works fine on WINE -- Bien à vous, \---SatorArepoTenet---/ | _ __ | | //\lexis |-|aeringer/ _ . _ |_ | | alias \__)|| )|(\/(_) | | / | /---SatorArepoTenet---\ Ma clef PGP : mailto:pgp1AROBASEginkyoPOINTorg Using The Bat! v1.61 (S/N EEB8DE89) on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 / Alexis Haeringer alias Ginkyo / Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Spam filters
Saturday, August 3, 2002, 6:12:14 PM, Arjan wrote: Here is a really good one: Kill all e-mail originating from these domains: .+aol\.com .+@yahoo.+ .+@msn\.com .+@.*mail.* .+@excite.+ .+@[0-9]+\. I am going to butt in here and ask a question. I am not sure how all the wildcards work that you are using so I wanted to see if I had entered this right. Here is a copy/paste of the filter as I have added it based on your remarks above: BeginFilter Name: SPAM Active: 1 Source: \\Jim D\Inbox Target: \\Jim D\SPAM CopyFolder: none MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MainSet: 00.+aol\.com MainSet: 00.+@yahoo.+ MainSet: 00.+msn\.com MainSet: 00.+@.*mail.* MainSet: 00.+@excite.+ MainSet: 00.+@[0-9]+\. etc. Is this right? --- Best regards, Jim mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Madness takes its toll. Please have exact change. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SORTING THE MAILS
Is it OE or is it USA programming? I prefer top-replying, don't often re-read the original post, dislike the colorization that must be waded through in a reply to read the the current (answer) post. If I can't remember the original post, dropping to the bottom to read the original is nicer than wading, especially since I often don't maximize emails as I go through them. The reason I ask about American is because I believe Netscape, Eudora, Pegasus, web services, etc., all may use top reply. Please explain about the signature problems you mention. I am not certain I understand. Elaine Hello Jonathan On Saturday, August 3, 2002, you wrote Eugh... top replying... an 'awful feature' of outlook. snip Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[4]: SORTING THE MAILS
Hi! Jonathan, I don't know, I still prefeer using this way, because I always read the first part to know what's on the e-mail... -- Regards, KoMpLoT mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sábado, 03 de Agosto de 2002, Jonathan, escribió: JA On Sat, 2002-08-03 at 18:57, KoMpLoT wrote: alright, I will try with that... thanks! JA Eugh... top replying... an 'awful feature' of outlook. Due to TB!s JA features, and automatic signature striping, if somebody was to try JA replying to your email, and keeping context, they'd have to copy and JA paste the previous email above yours as TB! will cut on the signature JA delimiter (-- ). It is often hard to keep replies in context this way JA as well, as to find out what you were replying to, I'd either have to JA scroll through your email, the reply email, and possibly the text from JA the mail before it. The best method of replying in most list cases is JA to quote the parts you want to reply to, and put your reply below the JA relevant text, such as I am doing here. JA As for your original email, if you go tot eh folder you wish to sort, JA then click on the column title you wish to sort by, for example click JA the subject, and it'll sort by subject. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: USING GnuPG...
Hi! Adam, well, I still can't use it!... I have it installed on the default folder c:\gnupg\ (that is the default folder), the problem is that I can't use my key with TB!, how to? thanks! -- Regards, KoMpLoT mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sábado, 03 de Agosto de 2002, Adam, escribió: AR Hi KoMpLoT, AR On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, at 21:03:53 [GMT -0300] (01:03 where I live) you wrote: K Hi list! K How can I use GnuPG with TB! ? K thanks! K PS: I have had it installed since long, and have all the keys created AR Is it installed in the default location c:\gpg? AR If so then go to Tools menu - OpenPGP - Choose PGP Version AR Select GPG AR Then choose Sign or encrypt as required from the Privacy Menu Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
CONTACT LIST WINDOW
Hi list! I just can't find a way to show the contact list window for rapid access... where can I find it? -- Regards, KoMpLoT mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: USING GnuPG...
Hi KoMpLoT, On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, at 22:57:58 [GMT -0300] (02:57 where I live) you wrote: K Hi! Adam, Kwell, I still can't use it!... KI have it installed on the default folder c:\gnupg\ (that is the Kdefault folder), the problem is that I can't use my key with TB!, Khow to? Kthanks! Did you set it as your default key What error message you get? Oh btw to answer another point, bottom posting actually follows the thread of conversation betteri.e the e-mail reads chronologically correctly - from bottom to top = from past to present A K K Current Ver: 1.61 K FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com K Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] K Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com K Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] K TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] K Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/ -- 04 August 2002, 03:10 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] No, no, aaugh, at the back of the throat. Aauuugh. All messages both into and out of this account have been scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. However, all attachments should be scanned also with a virus checker at the receiver's end to ensure that the files are clean and free of virus infection. All messages are for the attention of the recipient only. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: USING GnuPG...
A file folder (in the US) runs with the oldest paper at the bottom and the current papers proceeding in chronological filing order to the top of the stack. Is this a country thing? Elaine Hello Adam On Saturday, August 3, 2002, you wrote Oh btw to answer another point, bottom posting actually follows the thread of conversation betteri.e the e-mail reads chronologically correctly - from bottom to top = from past to present Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[3]: USING GnuPG...
Hello Alexis, You wrote: AH As I know TB! works fine on WINE That's good to know, because WINE is promoted by codeweavers as a way to run M$Office 97 2K on Linux (and the most popular Intel Unixes) and you know what Office includes. IAC, there are other and better Office Suites, which didn't run as well on OS/2 as SmartSuite, for instance (referring to the Win 3.1 version not Lotus' OS/2 version). The Borland apps did worse than the win apps on OS/2, although I have little knowlege of how similar OS/2 and Linux are in terms of structure. (I'm just a user). Further info requires joining the Wine team: Most of the features of the Application database require that you have a user account and are logged in. ... There are 1062 applications currently in the database with Dreamweaver being the top voted application. http://appdb.codeweavers.com/ Douglas Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: USING GnuPG...
Hi Adam Rykala, on Sábado, 03 de Agosto de 2002 you wrote: AR Hi KoMpLoT, AR On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, at 22:57:58 [GMT -0300] (02:57 where I live) you wrote: K Hi! Adam, Kwell, I still can't use it!... KI have it installed on the default folder c:\gnupg\ (that is the Kdefault folder), the problem is that I can't use my key with TB!, Khow to? Kthanks! AR Did you set it as your default key AR What error message you get? AR Oh btw to answer another point, bottom posting actually follows the thread of AR conversation betteri.e the e-mail reads chronologically correctly - from AR bottom to top = from past to present AR A -- well, maybe you're right... I've changed the template for the list... but that's another thing... I get no err!, that's the problem! I've installed PGP Freeware v7.0.3 and GnuPG v1.0.6 how can I use them with TB!, that's all, I just get no err, I can't import my key, I've no idea of what the problem is... -- Regards, KoMpLoT mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: USING GnuPG...
Hi ETM, On Sat, 03 Aug 2002, at 22:22:55 [GMT -0400] (03:22 where I live) you wrote: E A file folder (in the US) runs with the oldest paper at the E bottom and the current papers proceeding in chronological filing E order to the top of the stack. Is this a country thing? E Elaine Probably However the convention for bottom posting for email is a very lon gestablished one, and one that MS had no compunction about breaking... The key to successful bottom posting is quoting, snipping what is extraneous and only including the relevant. Reading a top posted email is like trying to have an argument with a clairvoyant.. A -- 04 August 2002, 03:26 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Do you think that when they asked George Washington for ID that he just whipped out a quarter? All messages both into and out of this account have been scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. However, all attachments should be scanned also with a virus checker at the receiver's end to ensure that the files are clean and free of virus infection. All messages are for the attention of the recipient only. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: USING GnuPG...
Hi Douglas, On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, at 21:24:35 [GMT -0500] (03:24 where I live) you wrote: DH Hello Alexis, DH You wrote: AH As I know TB! works fine on WINE DH That's good to know, because WINE is promoted by codeweavers as a DH way to run M$Office 97 2K on Linux (and the most popular Intel DH Unixes) and you know what Office includes. IAC, there are other and DH better Office Suites, which didn't run as well on OS/2 as DH SmartSuite, for instance (referring to the Win 3.1 version not DH Lotus' OS/2 version). The Borland apps did worse than the win apps DH on OS/2, although I have little knowlege of how similar OS/2 and DH Linux are in terms of structure. (I'm just a user). Totally OT but... I use Corel WordPerfect 2002 - and if it only imported jpg's correctly it would rule -- 04 August 2002, 03:28 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] I woke up one morning and looked around the room. Something wasn't right. I realized that someone had broken in the night before and replaced everything in my apartment with an exact replica. I couldn't believe it... I got my roommate and showed him. I said, Look at this--everything's been replaced with an exact replica! He said, Do I know you? All messages both into and out of this account have been scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. However, all attachments should be scanned also with a virus checker at the receiver's end to ensure that the files are clean and free of virus infection. All messages are for the attention of the recipient only. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: USING GnuPG...
Hi KoMpLoT, On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, at 23:29:14 [GMT -0300] (03:29 where I live) you wrote: K Hi Adam Rykala, on Sábado, 03 de Agosto de 2002 you wrote: AR Hi KoMpLoT, AR On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, at 22:57:58 [GMT -0300] (02:57 where I live) you wrote: AR A K -- K well, maybe you're right... K I've changed the template for the list... K but that's another thing... K I get no err!, that's the problem! K I've installed PGP Freeware v7.0.3 and GnuPG v1.0.6 how can I use K them with TB!, that's all, I just get no err, I can't import my key, K I've no idea of what the problem is... K -- 1) you got a -- sig separator in front of your text - which will mean it will get stripped from a reply 2) PGP 7.0.3 doesn't work - go to 6.58ckt which I have found is the best 3) Tools - Open PGP - Choose GPG Version Then select Open PGP Key Manager Select your key as default then sign key You DON'T NEED TO IMPORT KEY if you are NOT using the inbuilt PGP implementation A -- 04 August 2002, 03:31 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Huh, there's no Messiah in here. There's a mess, all right, but no Messiah. Now, go away! All messages both into and out of this account have been scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. However, all attachments should be scanned also with a virus checker at the receiver's end to ensure that the files are clean and free of virus infection. All messages are for the attention of the recipient only. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: USING GnuPG...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi KoMpLoT, On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, at 23:29:14 [GMT -0300] (03:29 where I live) you wrote: K Hi Adam Rykala, on Sábado, 03 de Agosto de 2002 you wrote: AR Hi KoMpLoT, AR On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, at 22:57:58 [GMT -0300] (02:57 where I live) you wrote: K Hi! Adam, Kwell, I still can't use it!... KI have it installed on the default folder c:\gnupg\ (that is the Kdefault folder), the problem is that I can't use my key with TB!, Khow to? Kthanks! AR Did you set it as your default key AR What error message you get? AR Oh btw to answer another point, bottom posting actually follows the thread of AR conversation betteri.e the e-mail reads chronologically correctly - from AR bottom to top = from past to present AR A K -- K well, maybe you're right... K I've changed the template for the list... K but that's another thing... K I get no err!, that's the problem! K I've installed PGP Freeware v7.0.3 and GnuPG v1.0.6 how can I use K them with TB!, that's all, I just get no err, I can't import my key, K I've no idea of what the problem is... K -- K Regards, K KoMpLoT K mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Once you've done that in new email go to Privacy and click Sign (or Encrypt) when completed, When you send it will ask for your pass phrase A PS 6.5.8ckt comes with their own Bat! plugin - -- 04 August 2002, 03:37 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] And Winter gave Spring and Summer a miss and went straight on into Autumn. All messages both into and out of this account have been scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. However, all attachments should be scanned also with a virus checker at the receiver's end to ensure that the files are clean and free of virus infection. All messages are for the attention of the recipient only. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt http://www.ipgpp.com/ Comment: Trech Gwlad, nac Arglwydd Comment: Fingerprint: 1877 137B CCB4 FD7A D137 A1B5 7D2B DC81 4F3B C1D1 iQA/AwUBPUyToH0r3IFPO8HREQK7zACggDxXmoQ+/dF4wYibnwksJy+Z7aoAnjSh 0cL3j2TrGgvPG5Va+slPBR1M =F4/s -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: USING GnuPG...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello KoMpLoT, In Reference to your Posting on Saturday, August 03 2002 at 07:29 PM PDT, I get no err!, that's the problem! I've installed PGP Freeware v7.0.3 and GnuPG v1.0.6 how can I use them with TB! If you are going to run PGP with TB, you should really install PGP 6.5.8ckt which has it's own TB Plugin. You can find Build 08 and 09 here: http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~irfaiad/ In the middle of the page under Site News you should download and install Build 08 Binary Distribution. After you have installed Build 08, install Build 09... but you must first have Build 08 installed as Build 09 is only a mini-installer and requires a previous version installed. Build 09 will automatically install the latest TB/PGP Plugin. After Build 09 is installed, go to Tools/OpenPGP/Choose OpenPGP Version and choose the 6.5x version. That should be all there is to it. that's all, I just get no err, I can't import my key, I've no idea of what the problem is... Try PGP 6.5.8ckt and then report back if you run into any problems. Once you have PGPckt installed and running, we should then turn our attention to getting the latest GPG version (v1.1.90-nr1) installed on your machine. - -- Nick Andriash Creston, B.C. Canada -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.90-nr1 (Windows 98) - GPGshell v2.45 iD8DBQE9TJUX2usvuTvKfdIRAj6aAJ99TUkerVwBVbrcHNoeWd+kuxJPDwCbB7+t QCIeJ/JPdyOdUdTCli5aY7Q= =fG8T -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: USING GnuPG...
Hello Adam Rykala, In Reference to your Posting on Saturday, August 03 2002 at 07:34 PM PDT, You DON'T NEED TO IMPORT KEY if you are NOT using the inbuilt PGP implementation Why not? -- Nick Andriash Creston, B.C. Canada Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: USING GnuPG...
Hi Nick, On Sat, 03 Aug 2002, at 19:47:24 [GMT -0700] (03:47 where I live) you wrote: NA Hello Adam Rykala, NA In Reference to your Posting on Saturday, August 03 2002 at 07:34 PM PDT, You DON'T NEED TO IMPORT KEY if you are NOT using the inbuilt PGP implementation NA Why not? Because if you use a PGP/GPG version (rather then the internal implementation) then it uses that versions key manager to handle it. As far as I can tell, the IMPORt facility is for the internal implementation. I've never had to import my key to use PGP with the bat (6.5.8ckt beta 9) A -- 04 August 2002, 03:50 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] If you're standing on your head, and you pull your pants down, is that really such a bad thing? All messages both into and out of this account have been scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. However, all attachments should be scanned also with a virus checker at the receiver's end to ensure that the files are clean and free of virus infection. All messages are for the attention of the recipient only. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: USING GnuPG...
I generally read in real time (probably means I should get a real life grin) and so I usually remember the thread. Elaine Hello Adam On Saturday, August 3, 2002, you wrote Reading a top posted email is like trying to have an argument with a clairvoyant.. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: USING GnuPG...
Hi ETM, On Sat, 03 Aug 2002, at 22:54:01 [GMT -0400] (03:54 where I live) you wrote: E I generally read in real time (probably means I should get a E real life grin) and so I usually remember the thread. E Elaine E Hello Adam E On Saturday, August 3, 2002, you wrote Reading a top posted email is like trying to have an argument with a clairvoyant.. E E Current Ver: 1.61 E FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com E Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] E Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com E Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] E TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] E Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/ No offense Elaine but that post shows the problem with top posting I saw someone else use this A: Because it doesn't make sense when reading long threads. Q: Why is it wrong to top post? -- 04 August 2002, 03:56 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : http://www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] I love the swooshing sound deadlines make as they go by. All messages both into and out of this account have been scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. However, all attachments should be scanned also with a virus checker at the receiver's end to ensure that the files are clean and free of virus infection. All messages are for the attention of the recipient only. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SORTING THE MAILS
Hi ETM, On Sat, 03 Aug 2002, at 21:49:04 [GMT -0400] (02:49 where I live) you wrote: E Is it OE or is it USA programming? I prefer top-replying, don't E often re-read the original post, dislike the colorization that must E be waded through in a reply to read the the current (answer) E post. If I can't remember the original post, dropping to the E bottom to read the original is nicer than wading, especially E since I often don't maximize emails as I go through them. E The reason I ask about American is because I believe Netscape, Eudora, E Pegasus, web services, etc., all may use top reply. E Please explain about the signature problems you mention. I am not E certain I understand. E Elaine SNIP is the key. I'm sorry to sound anal about it but top-posting bugs the hell out of me, its bad etiquette. Pegasus uses bottom posting, and Mozilla does. Netscape for some reason is now using top posting but can be altered. Web services are another kettle of fish.. Consider another analogy. Try driving on your side on the road here in the UK! -- 04 August 2002, 03:59 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : http://www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Alas, poor kiroY. I knew him backwards. All messages both into and out of this account have been scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. However, all attachments should be scanned also with a virus checker at the receiver's end to ensure that the files are clean and free of virus infection. All messages are for the attention of the recipient only. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SORTING THE MAILS
On Sat, 2002-08-03 at 20:49, ETM wrote: Is it OE or is it USA programming? I prefer top-replying, don't often re-read the original post, dislike the colorization that must be waded through in a reply to read the the current (answer) post. If I can't remember the original post, dropping to the bottom to read the original is nicer than wading, especially since I often don't maximize emails as I go through them. Well it is not entirely just Outlook, but it has been spawned a lot by outlooks default behavior. Netscape does it I believe, and I think Pegasus and Eudora can have it customized. Please explain about the signature problems you mention. I am not certain I understand. If you look at a majority of the emails posted on the list, they have a signature delimiter in the format of -- (mine has one too). TB!s behavior to stop over-quoting, and inclusion of pointless signatures is to strip everything that appears *after* that delimiter. Now with the method that KoMpLoT used, the whole original message/reply would be snipped if I were to try replying (from TB!). This can make it awfully difficult to follow long threads in conversations if there is no context for a reply. This is another reason that top quoting is often avoided. In some cases (I accept) that bottom quoting is prefered, and I do use it myself to particular groups of people, but any lists I am on, or news groups, I use quoting where it is necessary. Notice how I had snipped out the irrelevant part to my reply (just as you did in yours), and quoted what was needed. I also put the details about the signature cropping *after* your question. This makes it easier (generally) to establish which question I am referring too when I answer. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) PGP Keys : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=SendKeys Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Spam filters
On Saturday, August 3, 2002, 2:41:00 PM, Headless wrote: I'd like to add a filter that filters all messages that have more than one addressee in the To: or CC: fields I would like to filter all messages which are addressed to me in the CC or BCC line instead of the TO line. It seems that the current filters are blind to the notion that there is more than one class of recipients. Any suggestions? -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.60i on Windows XP version 5,1 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Spam filters
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Jim D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is a really good one: Kill all e-mail originating from these domains: .+aol\.com .+@yahoo.+ .+@msn\.com .+@.*mail.* .+@excite.+ .+@[0-9]+\. I am going to butt in here and ask a question. I am not sure how all the wildcards work that you are using so I wanted to see if I had entered this right. Here is a copy/paste of the filter as I have added it based on your remarks above: BeginFilter Name: SPAM Active: 1 Source: \\Jim D\Inbox Target: \\Jim D\SPAM CopyFolder: none MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MainSet: 00.+aol\.com MainSet: 00.+@yahoo.+ MainSet: 00.+msn\.com MainSet: 00.+@.*mail.* MainSet: 00.+@excite.+ MainSet: 00.+@[0-9]+\. etc. Is this right? Nope, that doesn't look right. BeginFilter Name: Trash Active: 1 Source: \\Main\Inbox Target: \\Main\Trash CopyFolder: none MainSet: 00.+aol\.com AltSet:1: 00.+@yahoo.+ AltSet:2: 00.+@msn\.com AltSet:3: 00.+@.*mail.* AltSet:4: 00.+@excite.+ AltSet:5: 00.+@[0-9]+\. AltSet:6: 00sex|porn|business|buy|baby|babe|free|hardcore|xxx|credit AltSet:7: 00Message-id:.+@relay\-14\.mail\.nl\.demon\.net AltSet:8: 41message-id:.+.+@.+ AltSet:9: 40Cc:.+alegro@ AltSet:10: 20[] Actions: faMarkRead,faExport,faoRegExp,faoAdvAddressOut,faoSaveUnix,faoAdvNoGroups AddGroups: DelGroups: ForwardTemplate: ConfirmTemplate: ReplyTemplate: FwdAddr: RedirectAddr: NewAddr: NewTemplate: ExtCmd: ExtFile: D:\Internet\TheBat\Files\trash.txt ExtractDir: ColourGroup: default AddAddrItems: afiFrom, DelAddrItems: afiFrom, HotKey: 0 IsOfColour: default SizeBigger: 0 SizeSmaller: 0 AgeOlder: 0 AgeNewer: 0 InAddrPos: 0 OutAddrPos: 0 InAddrGroups: NoAddrGroups: Mine KillFile: KillMethod: 0 SaveTemplate: SndFile: SysSound: 0 SoundTime: 0:00-0:00 AllowTime: 0:00-0:00 EndFilter --- Best regards, Jim mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Madness takes its toll. Please have exact change. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/ -- 4.4661 Admittedly the signs are still combined with one another even in tautologies and contradictions -- i.e. they stand in certain relations to one another: but these relations have no meaning, they are not essential to the symbol. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: USING GnuPG...
Hello Adam Rykala, In Reference to your Posting on Saturday, August 03 2002 at 07:51 PM PDT, I've never had to import my key to use PGP with the bat (6.5.8ckt beta 9) Oh, I see what you are saying. However, if someone was running GPG and decided to install PGP 6.5.8ckt, they would still have to import their Key(s) to PGP. -- Nick Andriash Creston, B.C. Canada Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
PGP GPG
Hi, Dear Bat's users considered I'm a still a novice anyone here could spare their time to tell what is the difference between this two?? or point me to a URL that could have a detail coverage on this issue??? (not discussion forum) thanks n grateful to u all ya! TIA Best regards, Jason Primary e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Re[4]: SORTING THE MAILS
On Sat, 2002-08-03 at 20:56, KoMpLoT wrote: I don't know, I still prefeer using this way, because I always read the first part to know what's on the e-mail... Just as a silly question, if it is a reply, how can you always know what is on the email? I mean, if I didn't have a clue what this thread was, then I'd have to read down just to get an idea, then read back up to work out your reply again. You'll probably find a majority of people on this list prefer top quoting because it leads to easier to understand threads, making things easier to follow... but that is my view anyway. I cannot tell you what you should do ;)) Another problem with bottom quoting is it often leads to over quoting, and includes a whole lot of unimportant text that your reply doesn't even reference. Take for example, the reply to my message, you could have cut it down to maybe the first two lines of my reply, and everybody still would have got the idea, but the whole email was quoted... but I'm getting off-topic, so I'll let it rest. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) PGP Keys : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=SendKeys Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: USING GnuPG...
Hello Adam Rykala, In Reference to your Posting on Saturday, August 03 2002 at 07:57 PM PDT, E E Current Ver: 1.61 E FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com E Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ..remainder of List trailer deleted No offense Elaine but that post shows the problem with top posting Sorry, but your message is a bad example of bottom posting as well, seeing as you have included the previous message's List trailer. ;o) I don't think it really matters if you top or bottom post... as long as you trim the quoted portion of your postings. -- Nick Andriash Creston, B.C. Canada Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: USING GnuPG...
Hi Nick, On Sat, 03 Aug 2002, at 20:08:47 [GMT -0700] (04:08 where I live) you wrote: NA Hello Adam Rykala, NA In Reference to your Posting on Saturday, August 03 2002 at 07:51 PM PDT, I've never had to import my key to use PGP with the bat (6.5.8ckt beta 9) NA Oh, I see what you are saying. However, if someone was running GPG and NA decided to install PGP 6.5.8ckt, they would still have to import their NA Key(s) to PGP. Yes... which was a pain - thats the way I went. I still have GPG on my machine, just didn't like the Windows plugins such as WinPT or GPGShell. I'm just a GUI snob! A -- 04 August 2002, 04:12 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : http://www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] If you lost your left arm, your right arm would be left. All messages both into and out of this account have been scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. However, all attachments should be scanned also with a virus checker at the receiver's end to ensure that the files are clean and free of virus infection. All messages are for the attention of the recipient only. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SORTING THE MAILS
Ahh. Then that really is the problem. Different countries, different views or top and bottom posting. Okay, I will stop posting here and continue to read (skipping the colorized portions of the replies laughter). Elaine Hello Adam On Saturday, August 3, 2002, you wrote Consider another analogy. Try driving on your side on the road here in the UK! Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: USING GnuPG...
But I have never retained any taglines or extraneous material. What is it that you all are seeing that I am not seeing on my receiving end? Is it something in TB that bothers people and I am not catching on to what it is? Eudora, Pegasus, Netscape, Outlook, Outlook Express, and whatever others, use top replies (without colorization) and it doesn't seem to cause problems on any of my other mailing lists. Comments about it are only made here, and I somehow am not zeroing in on precisely what the problem is. Elaine Hello Adam On Saturday, August 3, 2002, you wrote No offense Elaine but that post shows the problem with top posting Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SORTING THE MAILS
Hi Jonathan, On 03 Aug 2002, at 22:09:30 [GMT -0500] (04:09 where I live) you wrote: JA On Sat, 2002-08-03 at 20:56, KoMpLoT wrote: I don't know, I still prefeer using this way, because I always read the first part to know what's on the e-mail... Take for JA example, the reply to my message, you could have cut it down to maybe JA the first two lines of my reply, and everybody still would have got the JA idea, but the whole email was quoted... but I'm getting off-topic, so JA I'll let it rest. Perhaps an FAQ entry is needed, explaining the position? This is now officially an ex-horse, it has ceased to be (well I think so)! A -- 04 August 2002, 04:13 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : http://www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] I have a hobby...I have the world's largest collection of sea shells. I keep it scattered on beaches all over the world. Maybe you've seen some of it... All messages both into and out of this account have been scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. However, all attachments should be scanned also with a virus checker at the receiver's end to ensure that the files are clean and free of virus infection. All messages are for the attention of the recipient only. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: USING GnuPG...
Hi Nick, On Sat, 03 Aug 2002, at 20:11:50 [GMT -0700] (04:11 where I live) you wrote: NA Hello Adam Rykala, NA In Reference to your Posting on Saturday, August 03 2002 at 07:57 PM PDT, NA Sorry, but your message is a bad example of bottom posting as well, seeing NA as you have included the previous message's List trailer. ;o) I don't NA think it really matters if you top or bottom post... as long as you trim the quoted portion of your postings. I know I know ... I'd been good till that one! Because Elaine doesn't have a sig seperator I failed to notice that one. Another joy of using the Bat! is this ability to fire and forget! A -- 04 August 2002, 04:14 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : http://www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Love ain't nothin' but sex misspelled. -- short story by Harlan Ellison All messages both into and out of this account have been scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. However, all attachments should be scanned also with a virus checker at the receiver's end to ensure that the files are clean and free of virus infection. All messages are for the attention of the recipient only. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Spam filters
On Sat, 2002-08-03 at 22:05, Dwight A Corrin wrote: I'd like to add a filter that filters all messages that have more than one addressee in the To: or CC: fields I would like to filter all messages which are addressed to me in the CC or BCC line instead of the TO line. It seems that the current filters are blind to the notion that there is more than one class of recipients. Any suggestions? I'm not 100% sure on this, maybe one of the more technically users could correct me here. Try a regexp to filter it. In the filter string, put something like: ^CC:.*addy to match Then in the advanced tab (I think) turn on regexp matching. I cannot 100% remember the name of it off the top of my head, I'm at home, and use TB! at work... not got TB! running on linux yet ;) As a side point, unless the mail client is severely broken, there is no BCC field shown in the email, but you can match in the kludges for your email address. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) PGP Keys : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=SendKeys Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SORTING THE MAILS
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Etm [E] wrote: E Is it OE or is it USA programming? I prefer top-replying, don't E often re-read the original post, dislike the colorization that must E be waded through in a reply to read the the current (answer) post. E If I can't remember the original post, dropping to the bottom to E read the original is nicer than wading, especially since I often E don't maximize emails as I go through them. There are some things you need to consider here: a) You're writing to others and not yourself when you reply to a post. The formatting should therefore be in a way that the recipients prefer and not you. b) In a democratic environment as this list, majority rules. If most of the membership prefers a certain type of formatting, then that's the one that should be used. You're the first person I've read that actually defends top replying the way you did. It's certainly a genuine one and I can understand the basis behind your preference, though I'm surprised that the disadvantages of such a method doesn't outweigh the advantages you stated. c) The list promotes and prefers that members format their mail in a particular way (contextual, nested replies, rather than top or bottom replying) with the knowledge that it will not please everyone (I don't know if everyone will ever be pleased about anything except having their own way which just cannot happen on a moderated, and hence, more orderly list). This is so because the preferred format offers the following advantages: i) It avoids over-quoting since the original message is broken up into parts and the various segments/paragraphs directly answered beneath. ii) Misunderstandings about what the replier is answering to is minimised if what he's specifically answering to is quoted above. iii) It helps to minimise missing out pertinent material that needs to be addressed in the original message. I always left things out when I was forced to use top quoting while I was away for a couple months in Japan. My wife always accused me of not answering questions she asked. :) I guess I'm accustomed to contextual nested replies. iv) It does make for easier reading and understanding of the replies for most in that it avoids having to scroll back down to the original message to reread what you are replying to. You're an exception which I accept. However, please consider what your recipients want to see in your replies. If I have to send private mail to you, I hope that I'll remember to top quote for you. :) E Please explain about the signature problems you mention. I am not E certain I understand. You don't use a signature delimiter so your messages don't pose this problem. However, if you reply to messages that contain the signature delimiter, dash,dashspace, then all the text below the delimiter will be stripped from the reply. If you top reply, insert your signature with the delimiter and then quote the original message below this, all the original message will not be quoted in the reply. This can make contextual replying difficult for those who wish to do so. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.61 | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.91 (Win32) iD8DBQE9TJyYV8nrYCsHF+IRAq46AKCpNorKQVEdb8MRjL25gy9Dj3t1nwCgg+sJ 6iLZZFHH6tAYS+zTdd37C4M= =PM53 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: USING GnuPG...
On Sat, 2002-08-03 at 22:08, Nick Andriash wrote: Oh, I see what you are saying. However, if someone was running GPG and decided to install PGP 6.5.8ckt, they would still have to import their Key(s) to PGP. The interesting thing is (not sure if this is right on windows), but PGP and GnuPG use the same file formats on Linux, with different file extensions. This makes it awfully easy for me to keep my work and home keys synced. I just FTP them home before I leave work if I have made any changes, and visa-versa :) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) PGP Keys : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=SendKeys Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: USING GnuPG...
Hi ETM, On Sat, 03 Aug 2002, at 23:10:15 [GMT -0400] (04:10 where I live) you wrote: E But I have never retained any taglines or extraneous material. E What is it that you all are seeing that I am not seeing on my E receiving end? Is it something in TB that bothers people and I E am not catching on to what it is? Eudora, Pegasus, Netscape, E Outlook, Outlook Express, and whatever others, use top replies E (without colorization) and it doesn't seem to cause problems on E any of my other mailing lists. Comments about it are only made here, E and I somehow am not zeroing in on precisely what the problem is. Proper net etiquette is to bottom-reply, It follows the accepted norm of Question- Answer. We don't see anything different to anyone else using OE, Outlook or whatever. Its just the Bat! is set up by default to encourage good email etiquette. My work involves administering an email server for 250 usershence email is very dear to me (and sometimes the bane of my life). -- 04 August 2002, 04:16 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : http://www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Look, that rabbit's got a vicious streak a mile wide, it's a killer! All messages both into and out of this account have been scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. However, all attachments should be scanned also with a virus checker at the receiver's end to ensure that the files are clean and free of virus infection. All messages are for the attention of the recipient only. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: USING GnuPG...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Adam Rykala [AR] wrote: AR Totally OT but... moderator Indeed it is. :) Please take this off-list since it has drifted. Thanks. /moderator - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.61 | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.91 (Win32) iD8DBQE9TJ0QV8nrYCsHF+IRArTPAJ9iEa+RzsXX/aFmkHsUM7UO8irNWgCgqtc2 HVAsHHQOxA3uESkLwfb6Ets= =krNy -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SORTING THE MAILS
Hi ETM, On Sat, 03 Aug 2002, at 23:13:23 [GMT -0400] (04:13 where I live) you wrote: E Ahh. Then that really is the problem. Different E countries, different views or top and bottom posting. E Okay, I will stop posting here and continue to read (skipping the E colorized portions of the replies laughter). E Elaine no no no no noo! Its not a country thing. The standard of bottom-replying is a global thing. Its broken email clients that are the problem! Not you, or your nationality. Like i said -- think Question - Answer. A -- 04 August 2002, 04:19 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : http://www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] We've got the best government money can buy. Think about that for awhile. All messages both into and out of this account have been scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. However, all attachments should be scanned also with a virus checker at the receiver's end to ensure that the files are clean and free of virus infection. All messages are for the attention of the recipient only. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: USING GnuPG...
On Sat, 2002-08-03 at 22:10, ETM wrote: But I have never retained any taglines or extraneous material. What is it that you all are seeing that I am not seeing on my receiving end? In this example, Nick's comment to Adam pointed out the problem as the list footers (the bit saying which version, who to contact etc) was also put in the reply, duplicating information that is under the hammer for discussion at the moment for bandwidth usage. Is it something in TB that bothers people and I am not catching on to what it is? Not something in TB itself, it is just general usage of emails. If you notice how my replies are formated to your emails, you'll notice how I am snipping stuff that I find irrelevant to my replies, or trimming down parts that are to save space, and make the point a little clearer. Eudora, Pegasus, Netscape, Outlook, Outlook Express, and whatever others, use top replies (without colorization) and it doesn't seem to cause problems on any of my other mailing lists. Colourisations can be turned off I believe under the Options - Preferences somewhere, I cannot remember the exact location. Comments about it are only made here, and I somehow am not zeroing in on precisely what the problem is. Some of us like to read a conversation as if they were being had at the time, makes flowing of ideas a little better. Take the analogy of hearing the punchline of a joke before hearing the beginning of it. It makes the punchline out of context until the actual joke is said, then the person has to think back to the punchline to understand it again. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) PGP Keys : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=SendKeys Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Spam filters
[Please ignore previous mail!] In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Jim D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is a really good one: Kill all e-mail originating from these domains: .+aol\.com .+@yahoo.+ .+@msn\.com .+@.*mail.* .+@excite.+ .+@[0-9]+\. I am going to butt in here and ask a question. I am not sure how all the wildcards work that you are using so I wanted to see if I had entered this right. They are not wildcards, they are metacharacters. The filtering strings I provided are regular expressions. You'll have to check the item Regular expressions under the Options tab for this to work properly. Here is a copy/paste of the filter as I have added it based on your remarks above: BeginFilter Name: SPAM Active: 1 Source: \\Jim D\Inbox Target: \\Jim D\SPAM CopyFolder: none MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MainSet: 00.+aol\.com MainSet: 00.+@yahoo.+ MainSet: 00.+msn\.com MainSet: 00.+@.*mail.* MainSet: 00.+@excite.+ MainSet: 00.+@[0-9]+\. etc. Is this right? Nope, that doesn't look right. You should add the filtering strings as Alternatives in your SPAM filter. Hopefully this Copy-Paste of my own Trash filter will clarify things for you: BeginFilter Name: Trash Active: 1 Source: \\Main\Inbox Target: \\Main\Trash CopyFolder: none MainSet: 00.+aol\.com AltSet:1: 00.+@yahoo.+ AltSet:2: 00.+@msn\.com AltSet:3: 00.+@.*mail.* AltSet:4: 00.+@excite.+ AltSet:5: 00.+@[0-9]+\. Actions: faMarkRead,faExport,faoRegExp,faoAdvAddressOut,faoSaveUnix,faoAdvNoGroups AddGroups: DelGroups: ForwardTemplate: ConfirmTemplate: ReplyTemplate: FwdAddr: RedirectAddr: NewAddr: NewTemplate: ExtCmd: ExtFile: D:\Internet\TheBat\Files\trash.txt ExtractDir: ColourGroup: default AddAddrItems: afiFrom, DelAddrItems: afiFrom, HotKey: 0 IsOfColour: default SizeBigger: 0 SizeSmaller: 0 AgeOlder: 0 AgeNewer: 0 InAddrPos: 0 OutAddrPos: 0 InAddrGroups: NoAddrGroups: Mine KillFile: KillMethod: 0 SaveTemplate: SndFile: SysSound: 0 SoundTime: 0:00-0:00 AllowTime: 0:00-0:00 EndFilter Arjan -- 4.4661 Admittedly the signs are still combined with one another even in tautologies and contradictions -- i.e. they stand in certain relations to one another: but these relations have no meaning, they are not essential to the symbol. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: USING GnuPG...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Adam Rykala [AR] wrote: AR However the convention for bottom posting for email is a very lon gestablished AR one, and one that MS had no compunction about breaking... AR The key to successful bottom posting is quoting, snipping what is AR extraneous and only including the relevant. Would you kindly review this message you sent then? [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *All* of the original message has been quoted, including the list footers! AR Reading a top posted email is like trying to have an argument with AR a clairvoyant.. I don't see the difference in the amount of clairvoyance required for either forms of quoting. Please note that you're a member of a moderated discussion list with rules based on what makes most of the membership comfortable with posts and their content. One of them is formatting. We don't encourage top or bottom replying here since most here do not like it. You should post in a format that most of your recipients will prefer. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.61 | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.91 (Win32) iD8DBQE9TJ7iV8nrYCsHF+IRAmMFAJ9EAS2NObhW503UmUrlj6KARE0EVACg4jmD GqhjS+WqEyVtKRCZ1FOIhK4= =FABA -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: USING GnuPG...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Etm [E] wrote: E A file folder (in the US) runs with the oldest paper at the E bottom and the current papers proceeding in chronological filing E order to the top of the stack. Is this a country thing? IMO, I don't see how one can compare e-mail replies to filing papers away. Unlike stored documents, e-mail offers you the ability to make things contextual. I wish I could with documents. Since I can't really cut them to pieces and graft the pieces into other documents, I have to stack them, one on top of the other. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.61 | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.91 (Win32) iD8DBQE9TJ+3V8nrYCsHF+IRAhw2AKDy8t3tq35PU/MaHjhPLTn6W+Wr+gCeMThD MySbldAAjuQFI7AW3fkEU1o= =qrot -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: USING GnuPG...
On Saturday, August 03, 2002, KoMpLoT wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: K How can I use GnuPG with TB! ? KoMpLoT, You have already received several responses, but no one has taken this route, so I'll jump in. If you have Windows, then my recommendation would be to get GPGshell, which is a Windows user interface for GPG. Then load GPGtray (part of GPGshell), which is a system tray program having several very useful components. Using it is more flexible, and key management is more functional, than trying to use GPG from within TB! -- JN Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: USING GnuPG...
Hi Allie, On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, at 22:26:25 [GMT -0500] (04:26 where I live) you wrote: ACM In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], ACM Adam Rykala [AR] wrote: AR However the convention for bottom posting for email is a very lon gestablished AR one, and one that MS had no compunction about breaking... AR The key to successful bottom posting is quoting, snipping what is AR extraneous and only including the relevant. ACM Would you kindly review this message you sent then? ACM [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ACM *All* of the original message has been quoted, including the list ACM footers! And you will notice that was a one-off caused by a lack of sig delimiter, and the early hour where I failed to notice. I made one mistake, I don't see a need for someone to get shirty with me. I was just trying to point out the etiquette of email. Of course, if that is the way people want to play. AR Reading a top posted email is like trying to have an argument with AR a clairvoyant.. ACM I don't see the difference in the amount of clairvoyance required for ACM either forms of quoting. A: Because it ruins the joke. Q: Why does the punchline come last? ACM Please note that you're a member of a moderated discussion list with ACM rules based on what makes most of the membership comfortable with ACM posts and their content. One of them is formatting. We don't encourage ACM top or bottom replying here since most here do not like it. You should ACM post in a format that most of your recipients will prefer. SO what you are saying is that i should alter my posting to top and or bottom depending on who I am replying too? Come on Allie, that means that whole threads turn into a mish mash. Top or bottom, come off the fence. -- 04 August 2002, 04:29 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sometimes the squeaky wheel doesn't get the grease, it just gets replaced. All messages both into and out of this account have been scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. However, all attachments should be scanned also with a virus checker at the receiver's end to ensure that the files are clean and free of virus infection. All messages are for the attention of the recipient only. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: USING GnuPG...
Hi Joseph, On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, at 22:33:29 [GMT -0500] (04:33 where I live) you wrote: JNOn Saturday, August 03, 2002, KoMpLoT wrote in JN [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: K How can I use GnuPG with TB! ? JN KoMpLoT, JN You have already received several responses, but no one has taken this JN route, so I'll jump in. If you have Windows, then my recommendation JN would be to get GPGshell, which is a Windows user interface for GPG. JN Then load GPGtray (part of GPGshell), which is a system tray program JN having several very useful components. Using it is more flexible, and JN key management is more functional, than trying to use GPG from within JN TB! There's also WinPT as well, which you prefer will depend on personal preference. A -- 04 August 2002, 04:34 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] When danger reared its ugly head, He bravely turned his tail and fled. All messages both into and out of this account have been scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. However, all attachments should be scanned also with a virus checker at the receiver's end to ensure that the files are clean and free of virus infection. All messages are for the attention of the recipient only. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Indent (was Re: SORTING THE MAILS)
Good morning Allie, It was foretold that on 4-8-2002 @ 22:16:39 GMT-0500 (which was 5:16:39 where I live) Allie C Martin wrote and spread these wise comments on SORTING THE MAILS: snipped a bit ACM This is so because the preferred format offers the ACM following advantages: ACMi) It avoids over-quoting since the original message is broken ACMup into parts and the various segments/paragraphs directly ACManswered beneath. Allie, Do you have to do the indent manually or is there a short cut to it? -- Best regards, Lucmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Powered by The Bat! version 1.61 with Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 and using the best browser: Opera. The motor-car will help solve the congestion of traffic. - A. J. Balfour, c.1910. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: USING GnuPG...
Hi Allie, On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, at 22:26:25 [GMT -0500] (04:26 where I live) you wrote: ACM I don't see the difference in the amount of clairvoyance required for ACM either forms of quoting. ACM Please note that you're a member of a moderated discussion list with ACM rules based on what makes most of the membership comfortable with ACM posts and their content. One of them is formatting. We don't encourage ACM top or bottom replying here since most here do not like it. You should ACM post in a format that most of your recipients will prefer. From http://www.river.com/users/share/etiquette/ Post In-line for Context (up to table of contents) When you quote, you're doing it to provide context. Requiring your readers to scroll down and then back, repeatedly (as they attempt to figure out what the heck you're talking about), is a rather difficult way for you to make the context available. Providing the context up-front will get you better results. It is far easier for your recipients to follow the ongoing conversation in a message that uses quotes in-line like this: Quote (pruned properly) Your response Quote of another point (pruned properly) Your response to the second point than it is for your readers to follow along if you use top-posting like this (thanks to Adam Brower by way of Patricia Shaffer): Oh! Now it makes sense to me. Okay! No more top-posting for me! It's annoying because it reverses the normal order of conversation. In fact, many people ignore top-posted messages. What's so wrong with that? That's posting your response before the message you're quoting. People keep bugging me about top-posting. What does that mean? or as in this touching example (from Clifton Sharp): I'll see you at Linda's wedding. Well, see ya soon. Congratulations! Ten thousand a year. How much? Got a really big raise this time. Sorry to hear it. How's the job? She's not feeling well. Flu, I think. Same as ever. How's yours? How's your wife? They painted her purple. They should call her the Prune Fart now. Good. Did you hear what Martin and Sheila did to the Sea Breeze? Good, and you? Bill! How the heck are you? Top-posting makes your message incomprehensible to many of your readers. In normal conversation, after all, you don't answer to something that has not yet been said. Replying at the top confuses your readers, making any point you're trying to get across very unclear without them scrolling down and back repeatedly, searching to re-integrate context. That extra, wholly unnecessary work leads to reader irritation, or worse, to readers just not bothering with your words at all. Since your object is to get your message across, help your readers follow by placing your words in context, not prior to the context. Doing otherwise, forcing your readers to go to extra work unnecessarily, is usually considered insulting. Delivering your words in an insulting manner certainly doesn't help your case. Instead, post in-line to preserve context and respect your readers. -- 04 August 2002, 04:35 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Absence makes the heart grow fungus. All messages both into and out of this account have been scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. However, all attachments should be scanned also with a virus checker at the receiver's end to ensure that the files are clean and free of virus infection. All messages are for the attention of the recipient only. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: USING GnuPG...
On Saturday, August 03, 2002, ETM wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: E Is it something in TB that bothers people and I E am not catching on to what it is? ETM, No, it's the people in the TB! mailing list who are guarding the gates against the heretics :-) I agree with the general approach here, that snipping is good, and that interspersing one's response within the appropriate part of the previous message is good. However, Outlook and Notes top quote for a reason: it preserves the entire record of the thread. A user can still snip and intersperse a response. Plus, it's easier to read in many cases. This is, however, a situation where what has become standard practice for most people (in email, not in newsgroups) is nevertheless considered bad practice by many. Netiquette generally favors bottom quoting. With TB!, it's easy to set up templates that automatically provide bottom quoting. -- JN Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Spam filters
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Dwight A Corrin [DAC] wrote: DAC I would like to filter all messages which are addressed to me in DAC the CC or BCC line instead of the TO line. It seems that the DAC current filters are blind to the notion that there is more than DAC one class of recipients. Any suggestions? You have to use a regular expression. Enable regular expressions in the filter options and use the string: ^CC:.*your email address Location: Kludges Presence:Yes You cannot filter on BCC at the TB! level since there's no BCC field but you could do it indirectly. However, you can achieve the same effect by using this: String: your e-mail address Location: recipient Presence: No (If the message isn't addressed to you directly then it must have been BCC'd) Use the second string as an alternative string, i.e., set it up under the alternatives tab so that a match will occur if a message is either CC'd to you or if it's not directly addressed to you. Hope that helps. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.61 | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.91 (Win32) iD8DBQE9TKM+V8nrYCsHF+IRAlI7AJ9661S/MLPIMocj32ZV1KDVOqOWqgCg52Nz 157Ai7mExF0VZnk5F7mW4kQ= =5d0Z -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: DIGEST
Hi back atcha. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: USING GnuPG...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Adam Rykala [AR] wrote: AR When you quote, you're doing it to provide context. Requiring your AR readers to scroll down and then back, repeatedly (as they attempt AR to figure out what the heck you're talking about), is a rather AR difficult way for you to make the context available. Providing the AR context up-front will get you better results. This isn't what *you* do. You do all the quoting at the top followed by all your replying below. I'm yet to see a reply message from you with the format: Quote (pruned properly) Your response Quote of another point (pruned properly) Your response to the second point It's always: One big quote Your response. What's the difference between the latter and top replying? That's what I was asking. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.61 | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.91 (Win32) iD8DBQE9TKrgV8nrYCsHF+IRAl9hAJ4gvVYlk3J/5Leq4hba18Sgr7ADqQCg3Umj OczVQuzMVBVeqt+JOPhrKwc= =lKIk -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SORTING THE MAILS
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 03 Aug 2002, at 23:13:23 [GMT -0400], ETM wrote: E Ahh. Then that really is the problem. Different E countries, different views or top and bottom posting. E Okay, I will stop posting here and continue to read (skipping the E colorized portions of the replies laughter). No the problem is that with top posted threads it is very difficult to enter into a discussion that has already started. One must go to the bottom and scroll up to the start of the last section to read it, then scroll up to the section before that, then the one before that. The parts of the message are ordered backwards from the top. In addition, top posting clients such as Lookout Distress ignore the -- sig delimiter convention and leave way too much extraneous text in the e-mail or USENet post. We are not speaking of national styles, but common sense and experience with this form of communication. In short, top posting and over quoting are as much an abomination as HTML or rich text formatting in a plain text medium. Mike Yetto - -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=MAY:PGP_Key E-mailed using The Bat! v1.61 running on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBPUyrgdkz/SR3Uv4yEQIHsACfWCXe6RR1DNX+206uX1LLCIAPWswAn0PF +44nadv6EI3ZN3n8mTbPMNgO =pmXg -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: USING GnuPG...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Allie C Martin [ACM] wrote: ACM I'm yet to see a reply message from you with the format: Upon deliberate review of your posts apart from the recent ones in this thread, I see that this is patently untrue. I apologize for saying this. :) - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.61 | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.91 (Win32) iD8DBQE9TKwxV8nrYCsHF+IRArJ5AJ9DqyBzqp/kAXe9KYbvKPLC8HXqGwCdE5KO khTblxzE8DuSDITeHoqIRFA= =st9Y -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
