Re: On read filter.
Hello Chris, Problem is, even if you delete the mail, it still get's filtered to it's respective folder. Is there anyway that if you hit delete, it bins it rather than ignoring me and filtering it to it's folder anyway? H. That's strange. I use a good number of read filters and I have never seen that problem. Do you mark your messages as read manually? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Getting rid of unwanted messages
Hello Scott, On Tue, 15 Oct 2002 at 22:38:39[GMT -0500](which was 04:38 where I live) you wrote: RW [PGP] RW Sender RW yes SM Don't you mean subject, not sender? Oh heck, that's what comes of posting at 3am. Yes, of course I meant subject :-( -- Best regards, Richard Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Getting rid of unwanted messages
On Wednesday, October 16, 2002, 05:35, Richard Wakeford wrote: Well, I can't for the life of me see where I am going wrong. I've tried with and without quotes and everything. Post your entire filter here. Mark the filter and hit ctrl-c, then paste it into a message to TBUDL. Whilst I'm on the subject of getting rid of unwanted messages (I'm sure I'll eventually get it right!) is there a way of removing orphaned messages after the first message in a thread has been deleted? Not without manually including the message ID of the root message in your removal filter. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bat newbies list?
Hallo Scott, On Wed, 16 Oct 2002 00:44:21 -0500GMT (16-10-02, 7:44 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: SM Is there an easy way to get the archives off of the old server SM without wading through hundreds of web pages? Maybe if someone has SM them in a message base, they could be attached and emailed? Are you sure that's something you'd like? I've got only the last 14 months archived. (Didn't believe in archiving before that, all my archives start that month.) But they amount to almost 100 MB. As the archive goes back to way before that, I'm not sure whether you'd like that much data to search. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Lost folders
Dear Roelof, Wednesday, October 16, 2002 at 12:45:26 AM you wrote: RO This and the other problems could be easily explained by lack of RO diskspace. I don't know why SB wouldn't react properly to RO Ctrl-Alt-Shift-L. The shortcut has not been implemented in SecureBat! I have just learned. I don't know why. I have manually recreated most of my folders now. Only misses some that I cannot remember the exact name of. RO As I've never worked with SB, I'm just supposing the message base is RO still called messages.tbb with a messages.tbi index. .ebb, but I don't think it makes a great difference. Thanks for your advice. -- Kind regards, Britt Malka |\/| | \__/ | \/\/ | | \\ // \ / \/ ... Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya punk? ... www.malka.it - www.malka.dk - www.supermalka.dk ... Mailer: Ritlabs SecureBat! v1.61 (7BA406E8D52) under Windows 2000 5.0 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: On read filter.
Hi Roelof, On Wed, 16 Oct 2002 01:00:13 +0200 Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Problem is, even if you delete the mail, it still get's filtered to it's respective folder. Don't delete it, but flag it and set as option for your filter that it's only triggered by unfiltered messages. Create another read filter that deletes flagged messages. No need for a second filter. Simply tell the 'Read message' filter to filter only message 'not flagged' and you're done. If you want to delete a message set the flag (e.g. by using Ctrl+G) and _than_ delete it. The 'Read messages' filter won't be applied as the message is flagged and the normal 'Delete' operation is done. -- HTH Pit Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Bat newbies list?
Hi Roelof. At 5:06 AM on Wednesday, October 16, 2002 you [RO] wrote the following about 'Bat newbies list?': RO [...] Are you sure that's something you'd RO like? I've got only the last 14 months RO archived. (Didn't believe in archiving RO before that, all my archives start that RO month.) But they amount to almost 100 MB. RO [/...] I'm not sure I understand the purpose of keeping a private archive of material that is already archived. What's the advantage[s] of this duplication? TIA -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.61/W2K_SP3 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bat newbies list?
Hallo Jan, On Wed, 16 Oct 2002 07:27:56 -0400GMT (16-10-02, 13:27 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: JR I'm not sure I understand the purpose of keeping a private archive JR of material that is already archived. What's the advantage[s] of JR this duplication? For one thing, I'm archiving all lists I'm a member of and not all lists run a public accessible archive. A second reason is access time. Running a search on my local harddisk with TB is a lot faster than via the net. Nowadays I'm on ADSL and that's a reasonable connection, but before this summer I had a cable ISP that was very slow. As a third reason I like the way TB finds messages even in other accounts if necessary. And the habit of certain list members to post message-id's helps only for locally stored messages. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bat newbies list?
Hi Roelof! In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wednesday, October 16, 2002, 4:06:19 AM, you wrote: SM Is there an easy way to get the archives off of the old server SM without wading through hundreds of web pages? Maybe if someone has SM them in a message base, they could be attached and emailed? RO Are you sure that's something you'd like? I've got only the last 14 RO months archived. (Didn't believe in archiving before that, all my RO archives start that month.) But they amount to almost 100 MB. RO As the archive goes back to way before that, I'm not sure whether RO you'd like that much data to search. Only 100 megs? I've got email going back about a decade by now (since approximately 93 or 94), 100 megs is nothing... -- --Scott. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.61 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 on an AMD Athlon XP 1900 (1.6G real, 1.9G effective) with 512MB. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
MAPI
Hi Bats, I am having a problem emailing from within a program. Both Atlantis and Solar Maps pull up Mozilla, which is not my default mail program. The people at Esoteric Technologies tell me that it is a MAPI problem. I don't even know what MAPI is. There is no entry for that in the Bat help. Do I need to take Mozilla off my system for the Bat to be recognized? Thanks, MMeister -- mm mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Bat newbies list?
Hi Roelof. At 8:01 AM on Wednesday, October 16, 2002 you [RO] wrote the following about 'Bat newbies list?': RO [...] I'not all lists run a public RO accessible archive. [...] Running a RO search on my local harddisk with TB is a RO lot faster [...] I like the way TB finds RO messages even in other accounts if RO necessary. And [...] message-id's helps RO only for locally stored messages. All good reasons, I agree. I guess I've been considering the +s -s of archiving. Yahoo! archives are now such a PITA because of the ads. However, some Y! list owners have taken to zipping the archives making them available to members. I find that useful if I want to search for something specific. Then I download search the archive but that doesn't happen all that often. Maybe that's the key - how often one actually uses the archive to search for back msgs although I do know some folks are true archivists. Just thinking out loud on a rainy day -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.61/W2K_SP3 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ATT Broadband connections problems
On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 10:33:05PM -0600 or thereabouts, slug wrote: I can't however get it to work with the AOL account. I keep getting the reply 'will not relay non-local mail'. I thought the mercury bypassed this and sent mail directly. I'm not sure what to enter in nameservers here or anything else for that matter. I did a Whois for aol.com and got some IP addresses but it didn't say nameservers. No matter what I get the same response - no relay of non-local mail. You will never be able to get it to work, as AOL and some other ISPs block port 25, so that you cannot relay mail directly. You must use their servers, i.e. their setup for mail via their servers. The only alternative is to find a real ISP g -- Best regards, Gary When you come to a fork in the road, take it! Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: ATT Broadband connections problems
Hello Gary, Yes, I think I've finally realized that. I'm not sure it's the port 25 thing or not since I can configure the software to use another port. But AOL say's it will not relay messages or allow use of any other software to send messages through it. I wouldn't use AOL, but the company I'm consulting with uses it for remote connections. I have two questions then: 1: The Bat! therefore seems to be incorrectly using TSL protocol when trying to send mail through my ATT account. Since the same settings allow Outlook Express to do it. I can receive mail fine with The Bat! too. So - not waiting for a fix for this. Does anyone know of a free web-based e-mail service that will work - one that uses a simple protocol to send e-mail through. Netzero will not work either - I can't even get Outlook express to work with it. Thanks. 2. Does anybody have alternative ideas for another ISP that would provide connections throughout the US for travelling people that is not bound up like AOL is, and allows users to use their own e-mail clients (for me, The Bat!) while traveling. I'm thinking about People PC (I'm thinking of setting up a spare computer with this for my parents anyway), maybe. I'm not sure about MSN (too big brother). Wednesday, October 16, 2002, 8:41:12 AM, you wrote: G On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 10:33:05PM -0600 or thereabouts, slug wrote: G You will never be able to get it to work, as AOL and some other ISPs block G port 25, so that you cannot relay mail directly. You must use their G servers, i.e. their setup for mail via their servers. The only G alternative is to find a real ISP g -- Best regards, slugmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ATT Broadband connections problems
Hi slug, On Wednesday, October 16, 2002, 10:03 AM, you mentioned about ATT Broadband connections problems: s Yes, I think I've finally realized that. I'm not sure it's the port s 25 thing or not since I can configure the software to use another s port. Of course you can configure any port from your end to send, but the standard SMTP port is 25, used throughout the Internet, and they (AOL) will not allow any relaying on their port 25 / SMTP servers. Most ISPs will not allow relaying altogether, as this is spam haven. Mercury would work best if you had your own domain, and running your own mail server. Otherwise, I don't see any practical use for it, as TB! provides all the transport (SMTP POP3) info for any account that you have existing. s But AOL say's it will not relay messages or allow use of any s other software to send messages through it. I wouldn't use AOL, but s the company I'm consulting with uses it for remote connections. I s have two questions then: Yes, AOL has been quoted as a half-way house for people getting started on the Internet s 1: The Bat! therefore seems to be incorrectly using TSL protocol when s trying to send mail through my ATT account. Since the same settings s allow Outlook Express to do it. I can receive mail fine with The Bat! s too. So - not waiting for a fix for this. Does anyone know of a free s web-based e-mail service that will work - one that uses a simple s protocol to send e-mail through. Netzero will not work either - I s can't even get Outlook express to work with it. Thanks. Yes, a wonderful one that I have used is www.myrealbox.com You can use SMTP or IMAP, and can SMTP or POP3 from TB! or their web mail interface directly. Cost is free, no hassle setup, and works well. BTW, this works with SSL, MD5 encryption too. Since it is web based, you can log on from any ISP, and POP or send your mail using this account and TB! s 2. Does anybody have alternative ideas for another ISP that would s provide connections throughout the US for travelling people that is s not bound up like AOL is, and allows users to use their own e-mail s clients (for me, The Bat!) while traveling. I'm thinking about People s PC (I'm thinking of setting up a spare computer with this for my s parents anyway), maybe. I'm not sure about MSN (too big brother). I would suggest going with another *big* ISP, so that when you are traveling, you can have local access numbers provided. The big ones also provide a 800 number access that you can use, for those times you are not in a provided area, (in the boonies), so that you can get on line. Earthlink comes to mind. -- Best regards, Gary Today's thought: Somedays it's just not worth chewing through the restraints... Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Synchronize Bat with 2 computers.
On Monday, August 12, 2002, 10:27, Miguel A. Urech wrote: Is there a way to Synchronize Bat between to Computers. I use Second Copy 2000 (http://www.centered.com/) exactly for that. Late answer, I know... I've looked at this and it seems like a good piece of software. My only concern is it isn't freeware, I would very much appreciate not having to pay for my modest need of file synchronization. Does anyone have any freeware suggestions? -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ATT Broadband connections problems
ON Wednesday, October 16, 2002, 5:03:05 PM, you wrote: s 2. Does anybody have alternative ideas for another ISP that would s provide connections throughout the US for travelling people that is s not bound up like AOL is, and allows users to use their own e-mail s clients (for me, The Bat!) while traveling. I'm thinking about People s PC (I'm thinking of setting up a spare computer with this for my s parents anyway), maybe. I'm not sure about MSN (too big brother). Hi slug, Don't be scared and install Postcast. This is a mail-server that will deliver your mail directly to the mail server of the recipient. You will never have to worry again were you are and through which network you connect. You will find it here: http://www.postcastserver.com/ You can download it for free here: http://www.postcastserver.com/html/download.asp -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Certain flaws are necessary for the whole. It would seem strange if old friends lacked certain quirks. - Goethe - Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ATT Broadband connections problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Gary [G] wrote:' G Mercury would work best if you had your own domain, and running G your own mail server. Otherwise, I don't see any practical use G for it, as TB! provides all the transport (SMTP POP3) info for G any account that you have existing. You don't need to have a domain to make Mercury directly deliver mail for you. - -- Allie C Martin \ TB! v1.62/Beta5 WinXP Pro (SP1) List Moderator/ PGP Key - http://pub-key.ac-martin.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1-cvs (Win32) - GPGshell v2.60 iD8DBQE9rZPYV8nrYCsHF+IRAh7cAJ4oKKfQofKR1NKqJeMuAmcBfY6DgQCgxzN8 smjnmkFAA9EhqFRDaA1RLMw= =bBMC -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ATT Broadband connections problems
On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 11:29:14AM -0500 or thereabouts, Allie C Martin wrote: Gary [G] wrote:' G Mercury would work best if you had your own domain, and running G your own mail server. Otherwise, I don't see any practical use G for it, as TB! provides all the transport (SMTP POP3) info for G any account that you have existing. You don't need to have a domain to make Mercury directly deliver mail for you. Hi Allie, Does Mercury have their own mail servers.. How else could it deliver to domains if ISPs block port 25? There are several ISPs, i.e. ATT, Simpatico, etc., which block 25, so their customers are forced to use their own mail servers only. -- Best regards, Gary When you come to a fork in the road, take it! Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ATT Broadband connections problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Gary [G] wrote:' G Does Mercury have their own mail servers.. How else could it G deliver to domains if ISPs block port 25? There are several ISPs, G i.e. ATT, Simpatico, etc., which block 25, so their customers are G forced to use their own mail servers only. Mercury *is* the mail server. You don't need another mail server to relay mail for you when you're using Mercury. Mercury has it's own SMTP server that will carry out a direct mail delivery. You don't need to to use or enter any of your ISP servers in the Mercury configuration. - -- Allie C Martin \ TB! v1.62/Beta5 WinXP Pro (SP1) List Moderator/ PGP Key - http://pub-key.ac-martin.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1-cvs (Win32) - GPGshell v2.60 iD8DBQE9rZcXV8nrYCsHF+IRAjBfAJ49wepYlLBuFGc0z9b6f2ElHPyfOACdFWnr u+bphWTQAUWI5bkIqK+DGPw= =ONrE -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ATT Broadband connections problems
Hi Allie, On Wednesday, October 16, 2002, 11:43 AM, you mentioned about ATT Broadband connections problems: A Mercury *is* the mail server. You don't need another mail server to A relay mail for you when you're using Mercury. Mercury has it's own SMTP A server that will carry out a direct mail delivery. You don't need to to A use or enter any of your ISP servers in the Mercury configuration. I see. This would be equivalent to me using qmail or Postfix in Linux as my mail server (both for SMTP and POP3). I can see where Mercury would be advantageous for sending mail in Windows. I will check Mercury out, as I have questions regarding DNS records, if, or how, it resolves MX records before it sends, if it does, etc. Probably uses the ISPs DNS for this if it checks. Interesting. -- Best regards, Gary Today's thought: Chaos, panic, pandemonium - my work here is done. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: ATT Broadband connections problems
Hello Gary, Att works for me with Mercury, but AOL will not. I got the IP address of the nameserver on my PC with ATT by using IPConfig/ALL in the command prompt window (Win 2000) - they may change over time so I may have to re-enter. But you are right, not very usefull for me -maybe I'll think of some reason this method of mail delivery would be preferable later. But with AOL on my portable computer for traveling with Win 98 (ugh). I (and helpers) did a Whois search and came up with IP addresses of the nameservers but still got a message back from the server of We do not relay non-local mail - sorry Incidentally, what and exactly how does one do a Whois search - I sort of muddled through Google and went to a site where I entered AOL.com, but is this really the way? I feel like I've taken a IT course since yesterday - finally figuring out what some of these things are - nameservers, DNS, Dynamic something or other - where the IP address is chosen as you go... Thanks. Wednesday, October 16, 2002, 10:39:25 AM, you wrote: G On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 11:29:14AM -0500 or thereabouts, Allie C Martin wrote: Gary [G] wrote:' G Mercury would work best if you had your own domain, and running G your own mail server. Otherwise, I don't see any practical use G for it, as TB! provides all the transport (SMTP POP3) info for G any account that you have existing. You don't need to have a domain to make Mercury directly deliver mail for you. G Hi Allie, G Does Mercury have their own mail servers.. How else could it deliver to G domains if ISPs block port 25? There are several ISPs, i.e. ATT, G Simpatico, etc., which block 25, so their customers are forced to use G their own mail servers only. -- Best regards, slugmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ATT Broadband connections problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Gary [G] wrote:' G I see. This would be equivalent to me using qmail or Postfix in G Linux as my mail server (both for SMTP and POP3). I can see where G Mercury would be advantageous for sending mail in Windows. Definitely. This is why I use my own SMTP server. I never have to worry about an ISP SMTP server accepting my mail. A direct mail delivery is done so once MDaemon here delivers mail successfully, I know that the recipients mail server has received the mail. G I will check Mercury out, as I have questions regarding DNS G records, if, or how, it resolves MX records before it sends, It needs to know what nameserver/s to use. If you leave the nameserver field blank it will take the information from your machine configuration. Of course, this would only be successful if your machine is directly connected to the internet and not on a network, otherwise you'll have to specifically define the nameserver/s it should use. G if it does, etc. Probably uses the ISPs DNS for this if it G checks. Interesting. Exactly! - -- Allie C Martin \ TB! v1.62/Beta5 WinXP Pro (SP1) List Moderator/ PGP Key - http://pub-key.ac-martin.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1-cvs (Win32) - GPGshell v2.60 iD8DBQE9rZ1SV8nrYCsHF+IRAoORAKCU1wfKYFIyPDumICtEBXCdIuRRmgCgxnQZ 0Zq7cX9B7YMZcBCArlFrr7c= =t0q+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: ATT Broadband connections problems
Hello Gary, Wednesday, October 16, 2002, 11:02:51 AM, you wrote: Yes it has to use the ISP's DNS, and AOL somehow stops this and sends a message back saying 'no relay of mail - sorry', even though technically, I'm not relaying mail, rather trying to send it directly. ATT does not stop use of their nameserver so I can send through it, but I can't connect to their nameserver through AOL on the portable - maybe this is never possible - you're stuck with the ISP's nameserver you are connected with? Also I had a realbox/myrealmail account but it expired, and now they are no longer accepting new accounts. I sent an e-mail to them and maybe they will reinstate my old account. ATT did not allow gathering of E-mail off their server so I didn't use this account anymore - but now they do. But I want to use The Bat! anyway. Hopefully I can configure The Bat! to get and send e-mail through a free account. We'll see.I'm stuck with an AOL connection no matter what - on the portable. G Hi Allie, G On Wednesday, October 16, 2002, 11:43 AM, you mentioned about ATT Broadband connections problems: A Mercury *is* the mail server. You don't need another mail server to A relay mail for you when you're using Mercury. Mercury has it's own SMTP A server that will carry out a direct mail delivery. You don't need to to A use or enter any of your ISP servers in the Mercury configuration. G I see. This would be equivalent to me using qmail or Postfix in Linux as G my mail server (both for SMTP and POP3). I can see where Mercury would be G advantageous for sending mail in Windows. I will check Mercury out, as I G have questions regarding DNS records, if, or how, it resolves MX records G before it sends, if it does, etc. Probably uses the ISPs DNS for this if G it checks. Interesting. -- Best regards, slugmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MAPI
Hey mm, My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.61) Personal' was used to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wednesday, October 16, 2002 at 8:48:13 AM. mM I am having a problem emailing from within a program. Both mM Atlantis and Solar Maps pull up Mozilla, which is not my default mM mail program. mM The people at Esoteric Technologies tell me that it is a MAPI problem. mM I don't even know what MAPI is. There is no entry for that in the Bat mM help. mM Do I need to take Mozilla off my system for the Bat to be recognized? Try Options\Preferences\Applications tab hit the 'Install The Bat! as the Simple MAPI request handler' button. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying with The Bat! eMail v1.61 Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) A person with a green thumb has a sore back and red knees to match Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ATT Broadband connections problems
Hi Allie, On Wednesday, October 16, 2002, 12:09 PM, you mentioned about ATT Broadband connections problems: G I see. This would be equivalent to me using qmail or Postfix in Linux G as my mail server (both for SMTP and POP3). I can see where Mercury G would be advantageous for sending mail in Windows. A Definitely. This is why I use my own SMTP server. I never have to A worry about an ISP SMTP server accepting my mail. A direct mail A delivery is done so once MDaemon here delivers mail successfully, I A know that the recipients mail server has received the mail. Boy, I know that. I have a better uptime track record than my ISP. Cool beans. As you know, I am my own ISP within my ISP, by that I mean I have my own domains, mail servers, web servers, and DNS servers. G I will check Mercury out, as I have questions regarding DNS G records, if, or how, it resolves MX records before it sends, A It needs to know what nameserver/s to use. If you leave the A nameserver field blank it will take the information from your A machine configuration. Of course, this would only be successful if A your machine is directly connected to the internet and not on a A network, otherwise you'll have to specifically define the A nameserver/s it should use. I can just point it to my own DNS servers. This is slick. I just saw it on your site. I can use this on my laptop, and while on the road, go through my own servers for DNS, and use Mercury too (while in Windows). cool beans. On my LAN at home, while wife is in Windows, she uses our Linux mail server for SMTP/POP3. G if it does, etc. Probably uses the ISPs DNS for this if it G checks. Interesting. A Exactly! I see a plan here.. g -- Best regards, Gary Today's thought: Never argue with a man carrying a water buffalo. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ATT Broadband connections problems
Hi slug, On Wednesday, October 16, 2002, 12:08 PM, you mentioned about ATT Broadband connections problems: s Att works for me with Mercury, but AOL will not. Does not surprise me at all. AOL does not do anything standard. g s I got the IP address of the nameserver on my PC with ATT by s using IPConfig/ALL in the command prompt window (Win 2000) - they may s change over time so I may have to re-enter. But you are right, not s very usefull for me -maybe I'll think of some reason this method s of mail delivery would be preferable later. Well, if you are on the road a lot, try www.myrealbox.com Just open up an account, add the SMPT and POP3 stuff into the bat, and you are off and running. You can use this with any ISP you log onto and send mail and receive mail from TB! .. Bingo, you have a nice mail account. s But with AOL on my portable computer for traveling with Win 98 (ugh). s I (and helpers) did a Whois search and came up with IP addresses of s the nameservers but still got a message back from the server of We do s not relay non-local mail - sorry It will never work with AOL. s Incidentally, what and exactly how does one do a Whois search - I sort s of muddled through Google and went to a site where I entered AOL.com, s but is this really the way? You can use www.betterwhois.com to search all domain registers. In Linux, I just use the command line and do a dig or host, or whois command.. I can actually use their DNS servers directly to get this infodoing a dig and mx I get the following: ; DiG 9.2.1 mx aol.com ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 25764 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 4, AUTHORITY: 4, ADDITIONAL: 18 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;aol.com. IN MX ;; ANSWER SECTION: aol.com.2811IN MX 15 mailin-02.mx.aol.com. aol.com.2811IN MX 15 mailin-03.mx.aol.com. aol.com.2811IN MX 15 mailin-04.mx.aol.com. aol.com.2811IN MX 15 mailin-01.mx.aol.com. ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: aol.com.760 IN NS dns-06.ns.aol.com. aol.com.760 IN NS dns-07.ns.aol.com. aol.com.760 IN NS dns-01.ns.aol.com. aol.com.760 IN NS dns-02.ns.aol.com. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: mailin-02.mx.aol.com. 120 IN A 64.12.137.184 mailin-02.mx.aol.com. 120 IN A 64.12.136.89 mailin-02.mx.aol.com. 120 IN A 64.12.136.121 mailin-02.mx.aol.com. 120 IN A 64.12.137.89 mailin-03.mx.aol.com. 118 IN A 64.12.136.249 mailin-03.mx.aol.com. 118 IN A 64.12.137.121 mailin-03.mx.aol.com. 118 IN A 64.12.137.152 mailin-03.mx.aol.com. 118 IN A 205.188.158.25 mailin-03.mx.aol.com. 118 IN A 64.12.136.217 mailin-04.mx.aol.com. 136 IN A 152.163.224.122 mailin-04.mx.aol.com. 136 IN A 64.12.136.153 mailin-04.mx.aol.com. 136 IN A 64.12.137.121 mailin-04.mx.aol.com. 136 IN A 64.12.137.152 mailin-01.mx.aol.com. 234 IN A 64.12.137.89 mailin-01.mx.aol.com. 234 IN A 64.12.137.184 mailin-01.mx.aol.com. 234 IN A 152.163.224.26 mailin-01.mx.aol.com. 234 IN A 64.12.136.57 mailin-01.mx.aol.com. 234 IN A 205.188.156.122 ;; Query time: 110 msec As you can see, AOL has many mx (mail servers), but they are clustered. s I feel like I've taken a IT course since yesterday - finally figuring s out what some of these things are - nameservers, DNS, Dynamic s something or other - where the IP address is chosen as you go... LOL, yes I can see that. That's only the beginning... now to actually set up all these things.. (just kidding). s Thanks. My pleasure, it is fun.. -- Best regards, Gary Today's thought: I was trying to daydream, but my mind kept wandering. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Synchronize Bat with 2 computers.
Hello Marcus, Wednesday, October 16, 2002, 4:37:26 PM, you wrote: MO Does anyone have any freeware suggestions? http://www.karenware.com/powertools/ptreplicator.asp Might be of interest to you, but not used myself. -- -- Best regards, Kevin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat Version 1.62/Beta4 on Windows XP 5.1 www.ritlabs.com Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ATT Broadband connections problems
Hi slug, On Wednesday, October 16, 2002, 12:16 PM, you mentioned about ATT Broadband connections problems: s ATT does not stop use of their nameserver so I can send through it, ^^^ SMTP server name server is DNS s but I can't connect to their nameserver through AOL on the portable - s maybe this is never possible - you're stuck with the ISP's nameserver s you are connected with? Yes, that is the problem. There must be an answer, see below. s now they do. But I want to use The Bat! anyway. Hopefully I can s configure The Bat! to get and send e-mail through a free account. s We'll see.I'm stuck with an AOL connection no matter what - on s the portable. Might try Netscape, Eudora, or Opera mail. All of these provide for a mail user, sending and receiving mail, *however* I do not know if they now provide for you to POP (get) your mail directly off their server now via using TB! (or any mail client). Yahoo for example at one time allowed this, but now *charge* for it. If you go to the sites mentioned above, you can find out. -- Best regards, Gary Today's thought: A flashlight is a case for holding dead batteries. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Synchronize Bat with 2 computers.
On Wednesday, October 16, 2002, 19:50, Kevin Collins wrote: http://www.karenware.com/powertools/ptreplicator.asp Might be of interest to you, but not used myself. Judging by the text on that site it only supports one way copy, not synchronization. I'll have a closer look tomorrow though, thank you! -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: MAPI
Hello Tim, Wednesday, October 16, 2002, 1:06:38 PM, you wrote: TM Try Options\Preferences\Applications tab TM hit the 'Install The Bat! as the Simple MAPI request handler' button. The error message says simple MAPI handler was not installed - TBMAPI.DLL is not found in the program directory Hmmm. Thanks, M.Meister P.S. Pet peeve: Why don't the error messages allow you to select the text and copy/paste to your emails/or word processors! gnash -- mmmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ATT Broadband connections problems
On Wednesday, October 16, 2002, 1:57 PM, you wrote: G Might try Netscape, Eudora, or Opera mail. All of these provide for a G mail user, sending and receiving mail, *however* I do not know if they now G provide for you to POP (get) your mail directly off their server now via G using TB! (or any mail client). Yahoo for example at one time allowed G this, but now *charge* for it. If you go to the sites mentioned above, you G can find out. Gary, I use web2pop to get my yahoo mail using TB. I also have a free pop3 email account using fastmail.fm . they have free accounts and pay services. You can get your mail on their web site or using POP3. check out www.fastmail.fm -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ATT Broadband connections problems
Hi Paul, On Wednesday, October 16, 2002, 1:09 PM, you mentioned about ATT Broadband connections problems: G using TB! (or any mail client). Yahoo for example at one time allowed G this, but now *charge* for it. If you go to the sites mentioned above, you G can find out. P Gary, I use web2pop to get my yahoo mail using TB. I also have a free P pop3 email account using fastmail.fm . they have free accounts and pay P services. You can get your mail on their web site or using POP3. P check out www.fastmail.fm Thanks Paul, that is good information. It seems that myrealbox is not taking any more new mailboxes. Slug now can use yahoo and web2pop, or as you suggest above.. Good dig on this one. -- Best regards, Gary Today's thought: Love your neighbor, but don't get caught. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MAPI
Hey mm, My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.61) Personal' was used to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wednesday, October 16, 2002 at 2:01:37 PM. mM The error message says simple MAPI handler was not installed - mM TBMAPI.DLL is not found in the program directory on my pc, tbmapi.dll is in the same dir as TheBat.exe I see you are running 1.61, possibly a reinstall to get the file? mM P.S. Pet peeve: Why don't the error messages allow you to select mM the text and copy/paste to your emails/or word processors! gnash LOL Alt-PrintScreen grabs just the active window, then you can paste it to something like IrfanView (or shudder/ Paint) and save, then send as attachment. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying with The Bat! eMail v1.61 Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) MS-DOS: celebrating ten years of obsolescence Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Getting rid of unwanted messages
Hello Marcus, On Wed, 16 Oct 2002 at 09:54:11[GMT +0200](which was 08:54 where I live) you wrote: MO Not without manually including the message ID of the root message in MO your removal filter. Ah, probably not worth the trouble then. Thanks. -- Best regards, Richard Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: MAPI
Hello Tim, Wednesday, October 16, 2002, 2:44:01 PM, you wrote: TM Alt-PrintScreen grabs just the active window, then you can paste it to TM something like IrfanView (or shudder/ Paint) and save, then send as TM attachment. I can type faster than that! :-) -- mmmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
What TB sees as quote character
TheBat-users, Maybe I'm stupid, but I have not found (in Help or in the archives) how to change/add what characters TB treats as quote prefixes. Some people are fond of using all sorts of weird stuff :, |, etc. Of course I could ask them to change it... -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 1.62/Beta1 /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 /os Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: MAPI
Hello Tim, Wednesday, October 16, 2002, 2:44:01 PM, you wrote: TM Hey mm, TM My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.61) Personal' was used TM to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TM on Wednesday, October 16, 2002 at 2:01:37 PM. mM The error message says simple MAPI handler was not installed - mM TBMAPI.DLL is not found in the program directory TM on my pc, tbmapi.dll is in the same dir as TheBat.exe Yah. Mine too. Mine's dated 1/29/2002 and it's 56K. Just checked Solar Maps once again and it's still calling Mozilla. Thanks, MMeister -- mmmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ATT Broadband connections problems
On Wednesday, October 16, 2002, 3:01 PM, you wrote: P I tried postcast, but it seems to be a resource hog, it took FOREVER P to boot up. Mercury is nice ( free), fast (free), and does the job!! P and did I mention it is FREE?? G Was that like free? If the true be known, my entire OS and all the G services are FREE, thereby saving about $10,000 worth of services. How's G that for FREE. I have used UNIX since 1985, I would switch to Linux ( free red hat 7.3 or 8.0) in a heartbeat IF I didn't have a wife kids that live by the MS products at home and work/school. I might put together a Linux server soon, it's just not a high priority right now. I also got the free copy of Corel WordPerfect for Linux with their Corel LINUX distro, and I also have openOffice somewhere:) . For word processing ( ok, more like text editing) I've used VI/VIM, so I'm not tied to WORD or OFFICE anything. I used Informix for our database needs, so I don't need windows for much of anything. WELL, I DO like TheBat! so it might BE hard to get rid of Windows after all!!:) -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ATT Broadband connections problems
Hi Paul, On Wednesday, October 16, 2002, 3:01 PM, you mentioned about ATT Broadband connections problems: P I have used UNIX since 1985, I would switch to Linux ( free red hat P 7.3 or 8.0) in a heartbeat IF I didn't have a wife kids that live by P the MS products at home and work/school. cool beans... I transferred my kid over to Linux for her homework... can't start them too young... g P I might put together a Linux server soon, it's just not a high priority P right now. I also got the free copy of Corel WordPerfect for Linux with P their Corel LINUX distro, and I also have openOffice somewhere:) . I use that and Codeweavers Office for Word if necessary. P For word processing ( ok, more like text editing) I've used VI/VIM, so P I'm not tied to WORD or OFFICE anything. Yep, I live in VI(m) or Emacs. P I used Informix for our database needs, so I don't need windows for P much of anything. I use MySQL *and* Oracle (free for non-commerical use)... Also have a LAN fax server, and several other servers. P WELL, I DO like TheBat! so it might BE hard to get rid of Windows after P all!!:) Ahh, this was my only hangup... I have used TB! in Linux, using WINE, and it worked okay, except some features, i.e. spellcheck did not work. TB! actually worked better in the earlier versions with this. Recently, it has crashed under WINE, and I have not had the time to go into the WINE server to fix the problem.. Frankly, I do not trust it for heavy duty, important mail use yet. I do use TB! in VMWare using Windows, within Linux. I just set the IP address for SMTP and POP to my LAN mail server.. and go from there. All TB! files/directories are utilized not in Windows under VMWare, but right in Linux. (This saves VMWare disk space.) Since I use Dispatch Mail from Server, mail is very easy to manage from what ever I am in at the moment g I have been an avid proponent for TB! coming out a Linux version, and from what I have been told, it probably will come to pass. That would solve all my needs, and certainly open up a tremendous market for TB! g -- Best regards, Gary Today's thought: Why don't sheep shrink when it rains? Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Handy option?
Good evening list, The new beta 6 is out. It has a handy tool for some of you maybe: if you right click on the mail ticker, you can choose from which folders you want the messages to be shown. Thought i'd let you know. You can get it here: http://www.ritlabs.com/ftp/pub/the_bat/beta/ -- Best regards, Luc Powered by The Bat! version 1.62/Beta6 with Windows 2000 (build 2195), version Service Pack 35.0 and using the best browser: Opera. The only time to eat diet food is while you're waiting for the steak to cook. - Julia Child. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Cancelling a job before closing The Bat!
Wednesday, October 16, 2002, 6:13:28 AM,Thomas wrote: TF As there was no work on the Connection Center from v1.61 to the beta TF version I use, there should be no difference. TF Let's compare settings: TF Under Option / Network Admin, I have ticked the radio button for TF Dial-Up, and then marked all the tickboxes under that. A I wonder if this is why I get a problem? I don't use a dial up setting - I'm on a LAN so it's set to use the Network connection always. I have a similar problem using ICQ instant messenger as it doesn't always detect when the LAN's internet connection is off-line - I suspect The Bat! is having the same difficulty. TF None of my accounts have any tickmarks at Account / Properties / TF Network / [ ] Use account-specific... Same here - it connects fine anyhow so I left it unticked. I'll try it ticked and see if that solves the problem - it may tie in with the above - i.e. telling The Bat! that it is on a Network here. TF I run Windows 98 with a standard 56k-Modem connected to an analog TF copper-cable telephone line. Win 98SE on a Windows network via hub, using ICS to connect to the internet via a v90 external modem attached to the gateway PC over a standard BT line. -- Cheers, Anne Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Smart Bat (was Re[2]: Bat newbies list?)
Wednesday, October 16, 2002, 6:32:36 AM,William wrote: WM Is anyone going to mention 'a bridge over TBUDLed water'? I hope not. If you're really unlucky William I'll sing it for you! ;-) OK another question please... in v.1.61 there's an item listed in the 'Tools' menu as Smart Bat. I clicked it and it opened a nice window but I have no idea what to do with it. A search of the 'Help' files didn't produce any mention of it. Can someone please explain what it does and how I'd use it? Thanks :-) -- Cheers, Anne Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Handy option?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, October 16, 2002 Luc stated: L The new beta 6 is out. Caution!!! This is BETA and may ... nay WILL .. contain bugs (however slight). That's why beta annoucements and discussions are kept to the tbbeta discussion group. If you follow the link and download the beta version, you are doing so at your own risk. If you wish to join the beta discussion group and help evaluate the beta versions follow the link at the bottom of this or any discussion group message and search the site for the TBBETA link. My apologies for stepping on the moderators toes, but I figured it best to get the warning out as quickly as possible. Cheers Yall \\' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt http://www.ipgpp.com/ iQA/AwUBPa3VapbaVbYeHoVgEQKv+gCdFyzqorxz1ERHe9dRHEYUqN5oJDUAoJ1o sCxorT2DasAbL7kF8FtQ/VtZ =qHSp -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ATT Broadband connections problems
On Wednesday, October 16, 2002, 4:38 PM, you wrote: P I might put together a Linux server soon, it's just not a high priority P right now. I also got the free copy of Corel WordPerfect for Linux with P their Corel LINUX distro, and I also have openOffice somewhere:) . G I use that and Codeweavers Office for Word if necessary. don't know that one.. P For word processing ( ok, more like text editing) I've used VI/VIM, so P I'm not tied to WORD or OFFICE anything. G Yep, I live in VI(m) or Emacs. emacs is a full-suite, including email, right?? It's LIKE VI, but...different:) P I used Informix for our database needs, so I don't need windows for P much of anything. G I use MySQL *and* Oracle (free for non-commerical use)... Also have a LAN G fax server, and several other servers. I used Oracle in my last job, where can I pick that up??? P WELL, I DO like TheBat! so it might BE hard to get rid of Windows after P all!!:) G I have been an avid proponent for TB! coming out a Linux version, and from G what I have been told, it probably will come to pass. That would solve G all my needs, and certainly open up a tremendous market for TB! g I'll vote for that too!! -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: NOD32
Hi, On Tuesday, October 8, 2002 06:21 your local time, which was Monday, October 7, 2002 at 22:21 my local time, William Moore [WM] wrote; CW I've decided to give CW NOD32 a go on the 25 day trial. WM You've made the right choice, IMHO. I've found nothing to touch it. You WM can find the manual for POP integration here WM http://www.nod32.com/download/manual.htm Can anybody help me stop this annoying pop-up in NOD32. Everytime I receive a mail with an attachment, I get this pop up that tells me that the 'memory has been tested and some file has been diagnosed'. How can I stop this from keep happening, as it's really annoying with my high e-mail volume. Cheers, Chris. -- E-Mail - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Created Using The Bat! V1.61 and Virus Checked by Norton AVG. ** Scanned by eScan Content-Security and Anti-Virus Software. Visit http://www.mwti.net for more info on eScan and MailScan. ** Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Handy option?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, October 16, 2002, Luc wrote... The new beta 6 is out. It has a handy tool for some of you maybe: if you right click on the mail ticker, you can choose from which folders you want the messages to be shown. Thought i'd let you know. 6? What happened to 2? Or the rest of them in between for that matter? ;) g - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt iQA/AwUBPa3efiuD6BT4/R9zEQJjgQCgy+ep8/z1GlPaYfXmBxboZpkCfyMAn0Pv N4FewI8mC872m7zWYhkV71XH =/wax -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smart Bat (was Re[2]: Bat newbies list?)
Hallo Anne, On Wed, 16 Oct 2002 22:04:27 +0100GMT (16-10-02, 23:04 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: A OK another question please... in v.1.61 there's an item listed in the A 'Tools' menu as Smart Bat. I clicked it and it opened a nice window A but I have no idea what to do with it. A search of the 'Help' files A didn't produce any mention of it. Can someone please explain what it A does and how I'd use it? Thanks :-) This is a shameless copy and paste from a message written by Dierk Haasis [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: SmartBat is a kind of clipboard extension to collect snippets from different mails (or other texts) for editing purposes. You can, for example, built up a collection of quotations from various mails you want to answer in only one reply to. You can also put in any other text information from different sources (through the clipboard) to compose a new mail body. that way you can even use external editors to compose a message. Of course you an use it for whatever. Dierk mentioned only a few examples. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What TB sees as quote character
Hallo Peter, On Wed, 16 Oct 2002 20:58:26 +0200GMT (16-10-02, 20:58 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: PF Maybe I'm stupid, but I have not found (in Help or in the archives) how PF to change/add what characters TB treats as quote prefixes. I don't think you can change it. PF Some people are fond of using all sorts of weird stuff :, |, etc. PF Of course I could ask them to change it... You could try that. is by convention used as quote prefix | is by convention used as prefix for copied materials that aren't quotes from messages, but something like a batch-file or some source-code. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Handy option?
Good night Jonathan, It was foretold that on 16-10-2002 16:47:38 GMT-0500 (which was 23:47:38 where I live) Jonathan Angliss spread these wise comments: snipped a bit JA What happened to 2? Or the rest of them You better join the beta list also then ;-) -- Best regards, Luc --- Powered by The Bat! version 1.62/Beta6 with Windows 2000 (build 2195), version Service Pack 35.0 and using the best browser: Opera. Never accept a drink from a urologist. - Kevin Michael Reed. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Handy option?
Good night Wolffe, It was foretold that on 16-10-2002 17:08:52 GMT-0400 (which was 23:08:52 where I live) Wolffe spread these wise comments: snipped a bit W Caution!!! This is BETA and may ... nay WILL .. contain bugs W (however slight). That's why beta annoucements and discussions are W kept to the tbbeta discussion group. If you follow the link and W download the beta version, you are doing so at your own risk. I think most of the list members are aware that a beta version contains bugs (although i'm using beta versions since some time now, without having more bugs then in the non-beta version). The reason i posted my message is for those who had in the past a whish on this list for this feature. Didn't mean to step on _your_ toes. ;-) -- Best regards, Luc --- Powered by The Bat! version 1.62/Beta6 with Windows 2000 (build 2195), version Service Pack 35.0 and using the best browser: Opera. Advice is the only commodity on the market where the supply always exceeds the demand. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What TB sees as quote character
Roelof, On 17-10-2002 00:03, you [R] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: R I don't think you can change it. Then it is easy! :) -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 1.62/Beta6 /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1.2600 /os Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MAPI
Hey mm, My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.61) Personal' was used to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wednesday, October 16, 2002 at 3:04:52 PM. mM Yah. Mine too. Mine's dated 1/29/2002 and it's 56K. mM Just checked Solar Maps once again and it's still calling Mozilla. k, possibly we are looking at the wrong things here. What happens when you pick a MailTo: link in your browser (is Mozilla your default?)? A couple of days ago, I asked on the list why MailTo: links in Mozilla would not call TB ([EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]), and I got this resolution ([EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]). -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying with The Bat! eMail v1.61 Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer. -Douglas Adams Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ATT Broadband connections problems
* Paul Cartwright [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wednesday, October 16, 2002, 4:38 PM, you wrote: Yep, I live in VI(m) or Emacs. emacs is a full-suite, including email, right?? Yes. Look at the header of this mail. It's LIKE VI, NO !!1! but...different:) Ah, okay ;-) -- Best regards, Carsten Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: MAPI
Hello Tim, Wednesday, October 16, 2002, 6:11:59 PM, you wrote: TM Hey mm, TM My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.61) Personal' was used TM to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TM on Wednesday, October 16, 2002 at 3:04:52 PM. mM Yah. Mine too. Mine's dated 1/29/2002 and it's 56K. mM Just checked Solar Maps once again and it's still calling Mozilla. TM k, possibly we are looking at the wrong things here. What happens when TM you pick a MailTo: link in your browser (is Mozilla your default?)? TM A couple of days ago, I asked on the list why MailTo: links in Mozilla TM would not call TB ([EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]), and I TM got this resolution ([EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]). Since the last message, I've gone and deleted Mozilla and Oxygen (which I didn't know was Mozilla when I downloaded it :( ) So, the current status is this: mailto: links call The Bat! if it is online. I haven't tested to see if it will initiate dialup. The error message in Solar Maps has changed to: Unable to launch MAPI client - error code 2. You must have a valid MAPI client installed, such as Outlook or Eudora, and to have its MAPI options enabled in order to use this automatic email option. However, the email has been copied to the clipboard so you can open your email program and then paste the text. The following blah blah has been created for you to attach. Atlantis now ignores that an email request has been made. I have discovered in the middle of all of this confusion that I have two bat.exe files: the_bat.exe 2,43K 7/24/2002 thebat.exe 4,580K 7/09/2002 Could this be the problem? -- Thanks, MMeister mmmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Getting rid of unwanted messages
On Tuesday, October 15, 2002, Richard Wakeford wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: RW At the moment the filter is in my read messages Richard, If the filter is in your read section, then it will only act on messages after you have read them. That's why it's not filtering out the PGP messages: you haven't read them yet. Try putting it in your incoming section. -- JN Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ATT Broadband connections problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Carsten Thönges [CT] wrote:' emacs is a full-suite, including email, right?? CT Yes. Look at the header of this mail. This thread has now ventured off topic for too long. Let's end it here shall we guys. moderator Dead Horse guys. Move it to TBOT or to private mail. Thanks. /moderator - -- Allie C Martin \ TB! v1.62/Beta5 WinXP Pro (SP1) List Moderator/ PGP Key - http://pub-key.ac-martin.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1-cvs (Win32) - GPGshell v2.60 iD8DBQE9re8qV8nrYCsHF+IRAgMhAJ9LLLxLIIV8xBTKFsL/07/toiZEkwCfeQc/ 1Kylbak0pw75bBGLGTAACDQ= =p6tr -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Smart Bat (was Re[2]: Bat newbies list?)
Wednesday, October 16, 2002, 10:58:05 PM, Roelof wrote: RO This is a shameless copy and paste from a message written by Dierk RO Haasis [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: RO SmartBat is a kind of clipboard extension to collect snippets from RO different mails (or other texts) for editing purposes. You can, for RO example, built up a collection of quotations from various mails you RO want to answer in only one reply to. You can also put in any other RO text information from different sources (through the clipboard) to RO compose a new mail body. that way you can even use external editors RO to compose a message. RO Of course you an use it for whatever. Dierk mentioned only a few RO examples. Thank you Roelof, Now I know what it's for I shall try it out and see how I get on! It would certainly seem to be a very neat tool :-) -- Cheers, Anne Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: NOD32
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Chris Weaven [CW] wrote:' CW Everytime I receive a mail with an attachment, I get this pop up that CW tells me that the 'memory has been tested and some file has been CW diagnosed'. I've never seen this. Did they tell you exactly which file is diagnosed. Why not check the file out? Do a manual scan on it and see what you come up with? CW How can I stop this from keep happening, as it's really annoying CW with my high e-mail volume. I can well imagine. - -- Allie C Martin \ TB! v1.62/Beta6 WinXP Pro (SP1) List Moderator/ PGP Key - http://pub-key.ac-martin.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1-cvs (Win32) - GPGshell v2.60 iD8DBQE9rfFIV8nrYCsHF+IRAoeoAKDBOopWPiIdQvS0RyN2QneIsbFkmACfb4Lw AKschtKShTDGr+k9lqpmUzg= =Vd1T -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:What TB sees as quote character
At 2:58 PM on Wednesday, October 16, 2002 Peter Fjelsten [PF] wrote the following about [What TB sees as quote character]: PF Maybe I'm stupid, but I have not found PF (in Help or in the archives) how to PF change/add what characters TB treats as PF quote prefixes. PF Some people are fond of using all sorts PF of weird stuff :, |, etc. Of course I PF could ask them to change it... I would agree with every word you've said except I would apply it to situations where people use an html format to identify the start end of each text line in their signature. giggle giggle /giggle ,- [Peter] | greeting Best regards /greeting | author Peter Fjelsten /author | thebat version 1.62/Beta1 /thebat version | os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 /os '- -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.62/Beta6/W2K_SP3 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: NOD32
Allie, On Wednesday, October 16, 2002 18:07 your local time, which was 16:07 my local time, Allie Martin wrote; I've never seen this. Did they tell you exactly which file is diagnosed. Why not check the file out? Do a manual scan on it and see what you come up with? You have mail! CW How can I stop this from keep happening, as it's really annoying CW with my high e-mail volume. I can well imagine. It did it again as I sent you the mail! Very frustrating! Thanks, Chris. -- E-Mail - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Created Using The Bat! V1.61 and Virus Checked by Norton AVG. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problem sharing a mailbox
Hi all, Here's the situation: I have a group of 4 people (a small company) who share a common address with the same username. I can't create aliases on the server, and the solution of forwarding all the mails from the main account to their personal ones isn't a possibility. TB! is configured to leave the messages on the server for 2 weeks so they all get the same e-mails, regardless of what each person does in its own inbox. It'd been working well for a couple of months, but now the problem is TB sees the old messages on the server as new and downloads them, even though they're already in TB's inbox on each workstation. If they use the kill dupes function, the messages are downloaded again! What should I configure to stop this behaviour? Given the volume of e-mails these ppl get, it's become a major problem. Thanks in advance for your help! DC Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE: Re[2]: MAPI
Could someone please unsubscribe me from the list. I have tried to unsub threw the website, but it didn't do the job. I have switched to using Microsoft Outlook XP. I'll try TheBat again after a few new releases. The Bat needs to work out some more of its display bugs as well as the ability to customize the Toolbars. The Graphics need to be changed desperately... The icons in the bat are ugly. Take a look at some of the icons in Outlook and Outlook Express...for that matter, even check out Netscape's Icons, they are even a big improvement over the bats icons. Keep up the good work guys, and use some of that money your making from registrations to hire a designer. Oh, and one more thing... You might try a different name for the software... Such as MailManager by 'theBat' -- Best Regards, ~John, [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of mm Meister Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 3:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tim Musson Cc: mm Meister Subject: Re[2]: MAPI Hello Tim, Wednesday, October 16, 2002, 6:11:59 PM, you wrote: TM Hey mm, TM My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.61) Personal' was used TM to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TM on Wednesday, October 16, 2002 at 3:04:52 PM. mM Yah. Mine too. Mine's dated 1/29/2002 and it's 56K. mM Just checked Solar Maps once again and it's still calling Mozilla. TM k, possibly we are looking at the wrong things here. What happens TM when you pick a MailTo: link in your browser (is Mozilla your TM default?)? TM A couple of days ago, I asked on the list why MailTo: links in TM Mozilla would not call TB TM ([EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]), and I got this TM resolution ([EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]). Since the last message, I've gone and deleted Mozilla and Oxygen (which I didn't know was Mozilla when I downloaded it :( ) So, the current status is this: mailto: links call The Bat! if it is online. I haven't tested to see if it will initiate dialup. The error message in Solar Maps has changed to: Unable to launch MAPI client - error code 2. You must have a valid MAPI client installed, such as Outlook or Eudora, and to have its MAPI options enabled in order to use this automatic email option. However, the email has been copied to the clipboard so you can open your email program and then paste the text. The following blah blah has been created for you to attach. Atlantis now ignores that an email request has been made. I have discovered in the middle of all of this confusion that I have two bat.exe files: the_bat.exe 2,43K 7/24/2002 thebat.exe 4,580K 7/09/2002 Could this be the problem? -- Thanks, MMeister mmmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.404 / Virus Database: 228 - Release Date: 10/15/02 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.404 / Virus Database: 228 - Release Date: 10/15/02 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Was MAPI - now how do I
On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 07:18:11PM -0700 or thereabouts, ~John Marjorie~ wrote: Could someone please unsubscribe me from the list. Only you can do that John, it really is not that difficult. Just look at hour headers for instructions.. You do know what headers are? I have tried to unsub threw the website, but it didn't do the job. Perhaps you just did not do it properly. I have switched to using Microsoft Outlook XP. That does not surprise me. You really should stay with that, and I will guarentee you worms, virii, and more trouble than you ever had with any mailer. The Bat needs to work out some more of its display bugs as well as the ability to customize the Toolbars. The Graphics need to be changed desperately... The icons in the bat are ugly. Take a look at some of the icons in Outlook and Outlook yep, icons, that's what makes up a superb email client. Express...for that matter, even check out Netscape's Icons, they are even a big improvement over the bats icons. Icons do not sent mail, nor protect you against trouble. Keep up the good work guys, and use some of that money your making from registrations to hire a designer. We can certainly see what is important for your mail client... It must be pretty, all other features are meaningless.. Oh, and one more thing... You might try a different name for the software... Such as MailManager by 'theBat' Yah, having been in business for so many years, they should change a marketing presence and awareness which took years to develop... Now that makes sense. You really sound like a perfect candidate for Outlook.. couldn't find a better match. -- Gary Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MAPI
Hi John! In message 000301c27583$740a68c0$819629d8@pavilion">mid:000301c27583$740a68c0$819629d8@pavilion on Wednesday, October 16, 2002, 9:18:11 PM, you wrote: jM Could someone please unsubscribe me from the list. If you still have TheBat! installed, click on Specials | Mailing List | Unsubscribe. If you don't have it handy anymore, send an email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe You should get a confirmation request that you'll have to reply to in order to get off properly. BTW, I'm switching FROM Outlook XP. I've used Outlook for several years now, (after switching to it from Netscape Mail), and find that TB! is an improvement, if only because it conforms to Internet standards a lot more. There's been several messages discussing how to install alternative icons or even making your own. -- --Scott. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.61 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 on an AMD Athlon XP 1900 (1.6G real, 1.9G effective) with 512MB. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ATT Broadband connections problems
Hello slug, I thought I'd add one more message to this thread - my solution to the problem of sending e-mail through my AOL account while traveling, and using The Bat! to access and organize all my email. No luck with sending anything through AOL - not even with Mercury - they somehow prevent nameserver use as well as relaying. So not even a direct delivery is allowed through AOL. You must go through another e-mail client, but as I said, The Bat! is not correctly processing my SMTP connection with ATT (it works on my ATT connection but this is a simple set up without authentication). So here is my solution: I found three web-based FREE e-mail clients. Most of those suggested in the threads are not free anymore, or no longer accept new accounts, or don't offer their SMTP sending service on their free accounts. Here are three that are free and work with AOL. I gather e-mail directly off my ATT account, but send through these: Compustream: http://www.compustream.net/register.asp GMX, a German site - largest free e-mail site in Germany, pretty easy to figure out even in german, use altavista tranlate/babelfish if necessary (but you have to connect directly to sign in) And you have to sign in with your whole e-mail address or customer number - in The Bat! account set up in the user spot too. http://www42.gmx.net/ softhome Gives free SMTP service, but says there are restricitons on how often you may check your account and bandwidth restrictions (I suspect they actually mean traffic, not strictly bandwidth) but they don't specify the actual amounts - so we'll see. http://softhome.net/ -- Best regards, slugmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Printing Page Numbers.
Hi all, A nice quick and easy one for you all. How do I add page numbers to the bottom of each page printed? Thanks, Chris Weaven -- E-Mail - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Created Using The Bat! V1.61 and Virus Checked by NOD32 AVG. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
