Re: Message filtering problem

[Maggie Meister]

Hi MAU,

On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 6:36:40 PM you wrote:

M> You don't need to quote his whole message just to ask that, do you?
M> ;-)

 No, and thank you for the reminder. 
  

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Re: Message filtering problem

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello MAU,

On Friday, August 12, 2022 you wrote:

M> Hello Jack,

>> Have you tried any other options besides "sender"?

M> You don't need to quote his whole message just to ask that, do you? 
M> ;-)

My sincerest apologies to the list. I know better and simply was not thinking
(again) when I replied.

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Re: Message filtering problem

[Adrian Godfrey]

Particularly annoying when the one line of actual new text is after the quote.

Adrian

Friday, August 12, 2022, 7:36:40 PM, MAU miguel.ur...@gmail.com wrote:

> You don't need to quote his whole message just to ask that, do you?

 



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Re: Message filtering problem

[MAU]

Hello Jack,

> Have you tried any other options besides "sender"?

You don't need to quote his whole message just to ask that, do you? 
;-)

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Re: Message filtering problem

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Chris,

On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 you wrote:

CW> 10 August 2022

CW> I am having filtering problems but do not understand why, as before
CW> upgrading to v10. I saw no issues. Here are the headers for a message that
CW> does not get filtered correctly, it is instead left placed in my new mail 
folder.

CW>

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Message filtering problem

[Chris Wilson]

10 August 2022

I am having filtering problems but do not understand why, as before upgrading 
to v10. I saw no issues. Here are the headers for a message that does not get 
filtered correctly, it is instead left placed in my new mail folder.
 
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Re: New filters/re-filtering not working

[Melissa Reese]

Hello again,

I wrote:

> Any ideas as to what's going on here?

Never mind.  I think I've got it sorted.  I just needed to reorder the
priority of the filters, as one of them was to "park" all messages.  Once I
made sure all other filters came before the "park" filter, all is well
again.  :)

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New filters/re-filtering not working

[Melissa Reese]

Hello,

I just created a new POP3 account, and created new folders into which I'd
like to filter messages.

After creating a new filter, and I try to "re-filter" the Inbox, nothing is
filtered into the new folder, even though I know there are plenty of
eligible messages.

In all the years I've been using TB (since v1), I've never had this problem.
I'm now using the latest [stable] version.

Any ideas as to what's going on here?

Thanks!
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Problem solved: Sub-filtering across accounts

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Thomas,

On Fri, 8 Jun 2018 14:57:50 +0630 GMT (08-Jun-18, 14:57 +0700 GMT),
Thomas Fernandez wrote:

> Hello MFPA,

> On Fri, 8 Jun 2018 06:51:16 +0100 GMT (08-Jun-18, 12:21 +0700 GMT),
> MFPA wrote:

>> On Tuesday 5 June 2018 at 7:26:19 AM, in
>> , Thomas Fernandez wrote:-


>>> Yes.  But  since  the  mails  are  arriving there by
>>> filter and not by
>>> downloading, these filters are not triggered.  

>
>> Is the option "continue processing with other filters" selected in 
>> your filter that moves the messages to Account B?

> No it is not, because I don't want TB! to continue with other filters.
> There  might  one  that  is  lower  in the list; sorting my filters is
> something I am careful with.

> I would think that sub-filters are always checked (in the order of the
> subfilters)  even  if  "continue..." is not checked, as otherwise they
> are inactive.

>> Also, why the two-step process? You could do away with the first 
>> filter and move messages straight from Account A Inbox to the required
>> folder in Account B.

> I  think this would be the solution. However, here is the reason why I
> have the two-step process:

> The email address is an alias of a main email address. So, while it is
> a  different  address,  it is really the same mailbox. This made sense
> when  only  a  few  messages  arrived  there.  However,  the volume is
> increasing  so that I first had sub-folders, and now an entire account
> (which does not check emails).

> The  main  filter for this is triggered by that alias email address in
> Headers,  and  then  the  subfilters  are  supposed  to  sort into the
> different folders in that new dummy account.

> Thinking  about  it,  it  is  unlikely that someone uses my main email
> address  with a Header that is used as a trigger in the subfilters. So
> I will take this way and change the subfilters to be main filters.

> Thanks for this tip!

So,  I  did that: Moved the sub-filters out to become main filters and
they still didn't work. The weirdest thing!

I then looked more closely and found another filter higher up in the
list that moved these mail to account B's Inbox. And of course it
didn't continue with other filters so that they were never triggered.

I moved that offending filter down in the list (it has some other
conditions, but there is some overlap), moved the subfilters back to
become subfilters, and now all works as desired.

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Re: Sub-filtering across accounts

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello MFPA,

On Fri, 8 Jun 2018 06:51:16 +0100 GMT (08-Jun-18, 12:21 +0700 GMT),
MFPA wrote:

> On Tuesday 5 June 2018 at 7:26:19 AM, in
> , Thomas Fernandez wrote:-


>> Yes.  But  since  the  mails  are  arriving there by
>> filter and not by
>> downloading, these filters are not triggered.  


  ,
> Is the option "continue processing with other filters" selected in 
> your filter that moves the messages to Account B?

No it is not, because I don't want TB! to continue with other filters.
There  might  one  that  is  lower  in the list; sorting my filters is
something I am careful with.

I would think that sub-filters are always checked (in the order of the
subfilters)  even  if  "continue..." is not checked, as otherwise they
are inactive.

> Also, why the two-step process? You could do away with the first 
> filter and move messages straight from Account A Inbox to the required
> folder in Account B.

I  think this would be the solution. However, here is the reason why I
have the two-step process:

The email address is an alias of a main email address. So, while it is
a  different  address,  it is really the same mailbox. This made sense
when  only  a  few  messages  arrived  there.  However,  the volume is
increasing  so that I first had sub-folders, and now an entire account
(which does not check emails).

The  main  filter for this is triggered by that alias email address in
Headers,  and  then  the  subfilters  are  supposed  to  sort into the
different folders in that new dummy account.

Thinking  about  it,  it  is  unlikely that someone uses my main email
address  with a Header that is used as a trigger in the subfilters. So
I will take this way and change the subfilters to be main filters.

Thanks for this tip!

> I did away with per-account filters long ago and switched to Common 
> filters instead, which I find far easier. I would suggest giving them 
> a try.

These mails only arrive in that one main account, and the account they
are  filtered  into is a dummy account. I would like to make it a main
account  but  will have to check with GMX whether they can do it. If I
just  delete  the alias from the main account and then try to create a
new  account with that address, GMX will block that address from being
created  for  a certain time, I believe. And then I cannot receive any
mails, which would be a problem.
-- 

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Thomas.

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Re: Sub-filtering across accounts

[MFPA]

Hi


On Tuesday 5 June 2018 at 7:26:19 AM, in
, Thomas Fernandez wrote:-


> Yes.  But  since  the  mails  are  arriving there by
> filter and not by
> downloading, these filters are not triggered.  


Is the option "continue processing with other filters" selected in 
your filter that moves the messages to Account B?

Also, why the two-step process? You could do away with the first 
filter and move messages straight from Account A Inbox to the required 
folder in Account B.

I did away with per-account filters long ago and switched to Common 
filters instead, which I find far easier. I would suggest giving them 
a try.
-- 
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MFPA  

Does anybody really read these things? 

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Re: Sub-filtering across accounts

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Thomas,
Tuesday, June 5, 2018, 7:13:25 PM, you wrote:

> In  that  case,  maybe  I  should  try  and delete the filter and just
> recreate it. I'll come back with the result.

> By the way, I am talking about POP accounts.

I would have thought they would work better. Mine are all IMAP accounts.

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Re: Sub-filtering across accounts

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Stuart,

On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 10:37:31 -0500 GMT (05-Jun-18, 22:37 +0700 GMT),
Stuart Cuddy wrote:

> Hello Thomas,
> Tuesday, June 5, 2018, 10:16:39 AM, you wrote:

>> Yes, manual refiltering works.

> Hmmm. Unfortunately I find that depending on the ISP and probably what IMAP
> platform they use, that filtering is a bit flaky. I have some accounts that 
> will
> automatically filter my messages 90 % of the time, but then refuse to filter
> identical messages no matter what I do. Its like The Bat just quits filtering 
> at
> some point.

> I also come up against the ones that don't filter automatically, but filter 
> just
> fine with re-filter.

In  that  case,  maybe  I  should  try  and delete the filter and just
recreate it. I'll come back with the result.

By the way, I am talking about POP accounts.

-- 

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Thomas.

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Re: Sub-filtering across accounts

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Thomas,
Tuesday, June 5, 2018, 10:16:39 AM, you wrote:

> Yes, manual refiltering works.

Hmmm. Unfortunately I find that depending on the ISP and probably what IMAP 
platform they use, that filtering is a bit flaky. I have some accounts that 
will 
automatically filter my messages 90 % of the time, but then refuse to filter 
identical messages no matter what I do. Its like The Bat just quits filtering 
at 
some point.

I also come up against the ones that don't filter automatically, but filter 
just 
fine with re-filter.

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Re: Sub-filtering across accounts

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Stuart,

On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 10:04:17 -0500 GMT (05-Jun-18, 22:04 +0700 GMT),
Stuart Cuddy wrote:

> Hello Thomas,
> Tuesday, June 5, 2018, 9:37:30 AM, you wrote:

>> Yes, it is right below account A. Hmmm...

> Does the re-filter work.

Yes, manual refiltering works.

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Re: Sub-filtering across accounts

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Thomas,
Tuesday, June 5, 2018, 9:37:30 AM, you wrote:

> Yes, it is right below account A. Hmmm...

Does the re-filter work.

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Re: Sub-filtering across accounts

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Stuart,

On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 07:10:58 -0500 GMT (05-Jun-18, 19:10 +0700 GMT),
Stuart Cuddy wrote:

> Hello Thomas,
> Tuesday, June 5, 2018, 1:26:19 AM, you wrote:

>> Yes.  But  since  the  mails  are  arriving there by filter and not by
>> downloading, these filters are not triggered.

> It works here. I wonder if it matters if account b is below account a in the
> list of accounts. I'm not sure how an account would know if it arrived by 
> filter
> or not.  Does it work if you re-filter account 
> B after the mail has been moved there?

Yes, it is right below account A. Hmmm...

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Re: Sub-filtering across accounts

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Thomas,
Tuesday, June 5, 2018, 1:26:19 AM, you wrote:

> Yes.  But  since  the  mails  are  arriving there by filter and not by
> downloading, these filters are not triggered.

It works here. I wonder if it matters if account b is below account a in the 
list of accounts. I'm not sure how an account would know if it arrived by 
filter 
or not.  Does it work if you re-filter account 
B after the mail has been moved there?

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Re: Sub-filtering across accounts

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Stuart,

On Mon, 4 Jun 2018 20:14:37 -0500 GMT (05-Jun-18, 08:14 +0700 GMT),
Stuart Cuddy wrote:

> Hello Thomas,
> Monday, June 4, 2018, 7:52:57 PM, you wrote:

>> I Have a filter in one account (A) which moves the mails to another
>> account (B), and in that account (B) should sort them into folders. So
>> the sorting into the folders is done by sub-filters

>> Alas, the sub-filters are not being executed, all mails filtered into
>> account  B end up in the Inbox.

>> Is there anything I need to do which I am not aware of?

> Have you tried putting your sub-filters into account B as Inbox filters?

Yes.  But  since  the  mails  are  arriving there by filter and not by
downloading, these filters are not triggered.

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Re: Sub-filtering across accounts

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Thomas,
Monday, June 4, 2018, 7:52:57 PM, you wrote:

> I Have a filter in one account (A) which moves the mails to another
> account (B), and in that account (B) should sort them into folders. So
> the sorting into the folders is done by sub-filters

> Alas, the sub-filters are not being executed, all mails filtered into
> account  B end up in the Inbox.

> Is there anything I need to do which I am not aware of?

Have you tried putting your sub-filters into account B as Inbox filters?

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Sub-filtering across accounts

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hi TBUDL,

I Have a filter in one account (A) which moves the mails to another
account (B), and in that account (B) should sort them into folders. So
the sorting into the folders is done by sub-filters

Alas, the sub-filters are not being executed, all mails filtered into
account  B end up in the Inbox.

Is there anything I need to do which I am not aware of?

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Re: Filtering question

[MAU]

Hello Chris,

> One  question  though. Mail with photo content or linkss to web sites,
> when  transferred to my phone via GMAIL loses that content and appears
> plain  text, with no photos or clickable links. That makes them fairly
> useless. is there a means to have GMAIL show them on the phone as they
> originally appeared on my main PC please?

Try playing with Forward templates.

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Re: Filtering question

[MAU]

Hello Chris,

> Again, thanks to all for tips and time spent!

You are welcome.

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Re: Filtering question

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Chris,
Monday, December 11, 2017, 10:27:31 AM, you wrote:

> Thanks for the reply Stuart. redirecting wouldn't save a message on the PC
> into which the message initially arrived though, would it? Cheers!

I think it does, but I haven't tried it.

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Re[2]: Filtering question

[Chris Wilson]

Hello Stuart,

On Monday, December 11, 2017,  you wrote:

> Hello Chris,
> Monday, December 11, 2017, 7:29:35 AM, you wrote:

>> One  question  though. Mail with photo content or linkss to web sites,
>> when  transferred to my phone via GMAIL loses that content and appears
>> plain  text, with no photos or clickable links. That makes them fairly
>> useless. is there a means to have GMAIL show them on the phone as they
>> originally appeared on my main PC please?

> When you forward a message you get a pop -up that has a lot of choices 
> including
> whether of not to include attachments and whether it is test or HTML. You may
> want to play with those. The other option is to redirect instead of 
> forwarding.
> That usually leaves things as they initially were.




Does  that work from forwarding via a filter though, as i haven't seen
any  pop  ups.  Please  bear  in  mind the age of this version of TB!,
perhaps it's something only available in later versions Stuart? Thanks
for  the  reply  Stuart. redirecting wouldn't save a message on the PC
into which the message initially arrived though, would it? Cheers!



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Re: Filtering question

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Chris,
Monday, December 11, 2017, 7:29:35 AM, you wrote:

> One  question  though. Mail with photo content or linkss to web sites,
> when  transferred to my phone via GMAIL loses that content and appears
> plain  text, with no photos or clickable links. That makes them fairly
> useless. is there a means to have GMAIL show them on the phone as they
> originally appeared on my main PC please?

When you forward a message you get a pop -up that has a lot of choices 
including 
whether of not to include attachments and whether it is test or HTML. You may 
want to play with those. The other option is to redirect instead of forwarding. 
That usually leaves things as they initially were.

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Re[2]: Filtering question

[Chris Wilson]

Hello MAU,

On Monday, December 11, 2017,  you wrote:

> Hello Chris,

>> Thanks for the very kind offer, filters text sent by e-mail!

> Have you done as I suggested in my previous replay 3 days ago?

>> -  I  have  seen  that  most  (if  not  all) have the Option "Continue
>> processing  with  other  filters" set/ticked. Why this? Any reason why
>> you  want  a  message  be  'tested'  by all your filters? If a message
>> matches  the condition of the first (or Nth) filter, I see no sense in
>> checking possible matches with the rest of them.
>>
>> Unless  you  have  a good reason to have this option set, untick it in
>> all filters and try and see if there is a difference.

> Well, did you try? Your answer is important to continue investigating.




Sorry,  the wife threw a Christmas party so it's been manic here I
removed  all  the  continue  filtering  ticks and revised a few filter
orders.  I  also  removed  a few redundant ones. I am a lot of mailing
lists  hence  so  many  filters to send content to a dedicated folder.
Things  are now infinitely better, thank you so very much! There are a
few  anomalies, but I have now worked out how to put the messages back
in the Inbox and manually run a filter with logging to see what filter
is  placing  them  incorrectly.  I  am  ALMOST at a perfect situation!
Awesome, and greatly appreciated.

One  question  though. Mail with photo content or linkss to web sites,
when  transferred to my phone via GMAIL loses that content and appears
plain  text, with no photos or clickable links. That makes them fairly
useless. is there a means to have GMAIL show them on the phone as they
originally appeared on my main PC please?

I think with a final few tweaks to the order of filters things will be
nigh on 100% :) Again, thanks to all for tips and time spent!



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Re: Filtering question

[MAU]

Hello Chris,

> Thanks for the very kind offer, filters text sent by e-mail!

Have you done as I suggested in my previous replay 3 days ago?

> -  I  have  seen  that  most  (if  not  all) have the Option "Continue
> processing  with  other  filters" set/ticked. Why this? Any reason why
> you  want  a  message  be  'tested'  by all your filters? If a message
> matches  the condition of the first (or Nth) filter, I see no sense in
> checking possible matches with the rest of them.
>
> Unless  you  have  a good reason to have this option set, untick it in
> all filters and try and see if there is a difference.

Well, did you try? Your answer is important to continue investigating.

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Re: Filtering question

[MAU]

Hello Chris,

>> If  you want to, you can send me by PM your complete set of filters as
>> text(*) and I will take a look at them.
>
> Have done so, many thanks!

OK,  I  did  receive  your  PM with your filters. OMG! How many do you
have? With so many, I think you may be prone to 'loosing control'.

I have just taken a quick look at them (will do so in more detail over
the weekend) and so far I have seen two things:

-  You  have  other (several) filters that do forward messages to your
gmail account.

-  I  have  seen  that  most  (if  not  all) have the Option "Continue
processing  with  other  filters" set/ticked. Why this? Any reason why
you  want  a  message  be  'tested'  by all your filters? If a message
matches  the condition of the first (or Nth) filter, I see no sense in
checking possible matches with the rest of them.

Unless  you  have  a good reason to have this option set, untick it in
all filters and try and see if there is a difference.

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Re[2]: Filtering question

[Chris Wilson]

Hello MAU,

On Thursday, December 7, 2017,  you wrote:

> Hello Chris,

>>  Any further ideas please?

> Not much more to suggest, I'm afraid.

> - Are you using any Common Filters at all?


None

> - What about another filter down the list as Stuart Cuddy suggests?

I can't see anything although filter ORDER is something I may not have
addressed properly.

> If  you want to, you can send me by PM your complete set of filters as
> text(*) and I will take a look at them.

Have done so, many thanks!

> (*) To save your complete list as text, open the Sorting Office for the
> account.  Select  and  right  click on "Incoming Mail" and on the  context
> menu   select  'Copy'.  The complete list of filters will be copied as
> text which you can Paste in a text file or directly in an email body.




Thanks for the very kind offer, filters text sent by e-mail!

Note  please  that  I  reset  the  My  Mail filter to stop it sending a
forward of all mails to my phone :) I hope you have some luck spotting
what's happening Miguel! Appreciated.



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Re: Filtering question

[MAU]

Hello Chris,

>  Any further ideas please?

Not much more to suggest, I'm afraid.

- Are you using any Common Filters at all?
- What about another filter down the list as Stuart Cuddy suggests?

If  you want to, you can send me by PM your complete set of filters as
text(*) and I will take a look at them.

(*) To save your complete list as text, open the Sorting Office for the
account.  Select  and  right  click on "Incoming Mail" and on the  context
menu   select  'Copy'.  The complete list of filters will be copied as
text which you can Paste in a text file or directly in an email body.

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Re: Filtering question

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Chris,
Thursday, December 7, 2017, 8:13:07 AM, you wrote:

> I have had this new filter running as per your suggestion, or at least
> I  *THINK*  I  have  followed it correctly, but still I am getting all
> messages  to  my  main  PC forwarded to GMAIL. Not as I wish, just the
> ones  the  old  filter  put in the folder "My New Mail". I had thought
> this  was  a common filtering requirement these days, trust me to want
> something  difficult  :(  Any further ideas please? Thank you for your
> time.

Are you sure it is not another filter further down the list that is forwarding 
the other emails. In the options menu you can deselect the "Continue processing 
with other filters" button.

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Re[2]: Filtering question

[Chris Wilson]

Hello MAU,

On Thursday, December 7, 2017,  you wrote:

> Hello Chris,

>> OK, thanks for checking, I must be doing something daft then. Maybe one
>> of you would be kind enough to look at what I have done here please??

> OK, what I would do in your case:

> Filter: My New Mail Folder
>  Condition: If Sender... or Recipient ...
>  Action: None (Yes NONE)

>  Sub-filter: Forward Mail
>   Condition: Any Message
>   Action: Move to the folder
>   Forward message

> Both  actions  are  included  in the sub-filter because the sub-filter
> will  ONLY  be  tested  and executed IF the condition in the filter is
> true.

> Try  it.  You  don't  have  to  replace  your  current  filters.  Just
> deactivate them and create the suggested ones.





I have had this new filter running as per your suggestion, or at least
I  *THINK*  I  have  followed it correctly, but still I am getting all
messages  to  my  main  PC forwarded to GMAIL. Not as I wish, just the
ones  the  old  filter  put in the folder "My New Mail". I had thought
this  was  a common filtering requirement these days, trust me to want
something  difficult  :(  Any further ideas please? Thank you for your
time.

New filters are :

http://www.gatesgarth.com/filter3.jpg and


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Re: Filtering question

[MAU]

Hello Chris,

> OK, thanks for checking, I must be doing something daft then. Maybe one
> of you would be kind enough to look at what I have done here please??

OK, what I would do in your case:

Filter: My New Mail Folder
 Condition: If Sender... or Recipient ...
 Action: None (Yes NONE)

 Sub-filter: Forward Mail
  Condition: Any Message
  Action: Move to the folder
  Forward message

Both  actions  are  included  in the sub-filter because the sub-filter
will  ONLY  be  tested  and executed IF the condition in the filter is
true.

Try  it.  You  don't  have  to  replace  your  current  filters.  Just
deactivate them and create the suggested ones.


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Re[2]: Filtering question

[Chris Wilson]

Hello MAU,

OK, thanks for checking, I must be doing something daft then. Maybe one
of you would be kind enough to look at what I have done here please??

http://www.gatesgarth.com/filter1.jpg

http://www.gatesgarth.com/filter2.jpg


Thanks, sorry to be a pain!



On Wednesday, December 6, 2017,  you wrote:

> Hello MAU,

>> That  should  work. I've just tried it and it does work. Only messages
>> moved to an specific folder are forwarded.

> And I have verified it once again with my own message to this list. It
> was moved to folder TBUDL, as it should be, and also forwarded.








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Re: Filtering question

[MAU]

Hello MAU,

> That  should  work. I've just tried it and it does work. Only messages
> moved to an specific folder are forwarded.

And I have verified it once again with my own message to this list. It
was moved to folder TBUDL, as it should be, and also forwarded.

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Re: Filtering question

[MAU]

Hello Stuart,

>> Can I force TB! to only forward mails that end up in My Mail folder on
>> to my GMAIL account?
>
> You could try adding an additional action to your current filter that after
> moving will forward the message. 

That  should  work. I've just tried it and it does work. Only messages
moved to an specific folder are forwarded.

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Re[2]: Filtering question

[Chris Wilson]

Hello Stuart,

No,  but  I  have altered it now to "Source folder is: one of : ~/~/My
Mail  Thanks for sticking with me ;)

On Wednesday, December 6, 2017,  you wrote:

> Hello Chris,

> Wednesday, December 6, 2017, 11:02:50 AM, you wrote:

>> Nope,  the sub filter still forwards every incoming mail to GMAIL. Sorry
>> to  be  a  pain, any other ideas? I felt sure that would work! Thanks.
>> Filter order relevant???
> In the sub-filter on the folders tab, did you select "Specified Folders Only"
> and then pick your My Mail folder?








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Re: Filtering question

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Chris,

Wednesday, December 6, 2017, 11:02:50 AM, you wrote:

> Nope,  the sub filter still forwards every incoming mail to GMAIL. Sorry
> to  be  a  pain, any other ideas? I felt sure that would work! Thanks.
> Filter order relevant???
In the sub-filter on the folders tab, did you select "Specified Folders Only" 
and then pick your My Mail folder?

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Re[2]: Filtering question

[Chris Wilson]

Hello Stuart,

Nope,  the sub filter still forwards every incoming mail to GMAIL. Sorry
to  be  a  pain, any other ideas? I felt sure that would work! Thanks.
Filter order relevant???



On Wednesday, December 6, 2017,  you wrote:

> Hello Chris,
> Wednesday, December 6, 2017, 10:38:56 AM, you wrote:

>> But  *every*  mail  that  arrived to that PC was forwarded, not just the
>> ones which had been moved... Even placing that filter at the bottom of
>> the  filter  list  made no difference, which i thought was odd. Thanks
>> for the idea though Stuart, much appreciated.

> You should be able to add a subfilter that would forward by selecting only the
> folder that the messages were moved to.

> Filter 1 Move
>   Subfilter Forward








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Re[2]: Filtering question

[Chris Wilson]

Hello Stuart,

Ahh,  silly  me,  I  have  never  noticed  the sub filter option, and,
obviously,  never tried to use it, i have done as you suggested, we'll
see what happens! :) Thanks again Stuart.

On Wednesday, December 6, 2017,  you wrote:

> Hello Chris,
> Wednesday, December 6, 2017, 10:38:56 AM, you wrote:

>> But  *every*  mail  that  arrived to that PC was forwarded, not just the
>> ones which had been moved... Even placing that filter at the bottom of
>> the  filter  list  made no difference, which i thought was odd. Thanks
>> for the idea though Stuart, much appreciated.

> You should be able to add a subfilter that would forward by selecting only the
> folder that the messages were moved to.

> Filter 1 Move
>   Subfilter Forward

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Re: Filtering question

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Chris,
Wednesday, December 6, 2017, 10:38:56 AM, you wrote:

> But  *every*  mail  that  arrived to that PC was forwarded, not just the
> ones which had been moved... Even placing that filter at the bottom of
> the  filter  list  made no difference, which i thought was odd. Thanks
> for the idea though Stuart, much appreciated.

You should be able to add a subfilter that would forward by selecting only the 
folder that the messages were moved to.

Filter 1 Move
  Subfilter Forward

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Re[2]: Filtering question

[Chris Wilson]

Hello Stuart,

That's  exactly  how I did it, a second action after Move To : My Mail
Folder


I put a second action Forward To: (my GMAIL account)

But  *every*  mail  that  arrived to that PC was forwarded, not just the
ones which had been moved... Even placing that filter at the bottom of
the  filter  list  made no difference, which i thought was odd. Thanks
for the idea though Stuart, much appreciated.

On Wednesday, December 6, 2017,  you wrote:

> Hello Chris,
> Wednesday, December 6, 2017, 7:01:43 AM, you wrote:

>> Can I force TB! to only forward mails that end up in My Mail folder on
>> to my GMAIL account?

> You could try adding an additional action to your current filter that after
> moving will forward the message. 


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Re: Filtering question

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Chris,
Wednesday, December 6, 2017, 7:01:43 AM, you wrote:

> Can I force TB! to only forward mails that end up in My Mail folder on
> to my GMAIL account?

You could try adding an additional action to your current filter that after 
moving will forward the message. 

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Filtering question

[Chris Wilson]

06 December 2017



I have a new Smartphone (Moto G4) and not being used to modern phones
it's taking me a while coming to terms with its abundant features!

I want TB! to forward mails that have been already filtered to my
personal mail folder (My Mail) on my home desktop PC to GMAIL so I can
reasd them on my phone. But when I add a rule to forward that mail to
my GMAIL address i get ALL mail coming to my chriswilson.tv account
forwarded to GMAIL. I tried moving the filter to the bottom of the
list but no change in that behaviour occurred.

The rules that work for TB! are

sender contains chriswilson.tv
OR
recipient contains chriswilson.tv

Action

Move messages to My Mail folder


All other messages generally and reliably get filtered to relevant
folders, they being mainly mailing list messages.

Can I force TB! to only forward mails that end up in My Mail folder on
to my GMAIL account?

Thanks I am running an older version of TB! as generally speaking I am
comfortable  with  it  by  now  ;)  I think the correct description for
people like myself is a Luddite!

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Re: Filtering question

[MFPA]

Hi


On Friday 22 August 2014 at 5:03:57 PM, in
mid:454773241.20140822170...@chriswilson.tv, Chris Wilson wrote:




 I have a lot of subscriptions using e-mail to various
 Yahoo Groups. It seems  they  have changed the To:
 address to add a stage into it, an example :

 softroc...@yahoogroups.com   to

 softroc...@stage.yahoogroups.com


I have a couple of Yahoo Groups and nothing like this has (yet) 
happened to them.



 My filter is To: contains softroc...@yahoogroups.com

 and  it's  stopped  working. Why is this if I am using
 Contains as a filter,  it  still  contains  part  of
 the  old address? 

Because the string softroc...@stage.yahoogroups.com does not contain 
the search string softroc...@yahoogroups.com



 Do I need to manually change each and
 every yahoogroups filter?

Yes. My suggestion is to copy them one at a time to Notepad. 

Then, when you have them all in notepad use the Replace function to
change all instances of @yahoogroups.com (without quotes) to
@stage.yahoogroups.com or @*yahoogroups.com (without quotes).

Then copy the whole of the notepad text back into your sorting office. 
(You may like to take the precaution of a backup first!) 

You will probably have to visit the Share with... tab of each filter
and re-select which accounts to apply them to.

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Re[2]: Filtering question

[Chris Wilson]

Hello MAU,

On Friday, August 22, 2014,  you wrote:

 Hello Chris,


 My filter is To: contains softroc...@yahoogroups.com

 and  it's  stopped  working. Why is this if I am using Contains as a
 filter,  it  still  contains  part  of  the  old address?

 Because 'softroc...@stage.yahoogroups.com' does NOT contain 
 'softroc...@yahoogroups.com'. If the new address was 
 'softroc...@yahoogroups.com.stage' your filters would still work.

 Do I need to manually change each and every yahoogroups filter?

 I'm afraid so.




Ah yes, of course, I see now! Thanks for that. I was away for two days
and  came  back  to find a load of unfiltered mails in my Inbox, which
would  normally have filtered to the correct Yahoo groups folders. the
odd  thing is these changed To: header lines have ceased arriving, and
none  of  these  are  in my Inbox today. I wonder if it was a temporary
glitch at Yahoo?


Thanks again for your help.



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Re: Filtering question

[MAU]

Hello Chris,


 the odd thing is these changed To: header lines have ceased arriving,
 and none of these are in my Inbox today. I wonder if it was a
 temporary glitch at Yahoo?

Well, it is good you had not made any changes to your filters.


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Filtering question

[Chris Wilson]

22 August 2014



I have a lot of subscriptions using e-mail to various Yahoo Groups. It
seems  they  have changed the To: address to add a stage into it, an
example :

softroc...@yahoogroups.com   to

softroc...@stage.yahoogroups.com


My filter is To: contains softroc...@yahoogroups.com

and  it's  stopped  working. Why is this if I am using Contains as a
filter,  it  still  contains  part  of  the  old address? Do I need to
manually change each and every yahoogroups filter?

Thanks, I am using TB!  5.8.10 under Windows 7 Pro 64 Bit.




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Re: Filtering question

[MAU]

Hello Chris,


 My filter is To: contains softroc...@yahoogroups.com

 and  it's  stopped  working. Why is this if I am using Contains as a
 filter,  it  still  contains  part  of  the  old address?

Because 'softroc...@stage.yahoogroups.com' does NOT contain 
'softroc...@yahoogroups.com'. If the new address was 
'softroc...@yahoogroups.com.stage' your filters would still work.

 Do I need to manually change each and every yahoogroups filter?

I'm afraid so.

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Using The Bat! v6.5
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Re: Feature request? Messages display filtering used.

[MFPA]

Hi


On Saturday 9 November 2013 at 5:39:32 PM, in
mid:95227506.20131109113...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote:



 The only times I can recall having a message land in
 the wrong folder is when the sender changed something,
 which had been static, upon which I had been filtering.
 An examination of the filter and the errant message
 usually reveals the problem.  


I occasionally get seemingly random missorts from the filters.
Re-filtering corrects it in those cases. In other cases Test Filters 
is a useful tool to work out what went awry.



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Re: Feature request? Messages display filtering used.

[MAU]

Hello Chris,


 I see the same, which is not really telling me how a message was
 routed to that folder. I was expecting something that showed the
 filter, or filters, used to move or copy it there.

Have you ever taken a look at the Account's log? If not, please do. 
'Account/View log', or 'Shift+Ctrl+A' or click on bottom status bar.

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Re[2]: Feature request? Messages display filtering used.

[Chris Wilson]

 Hello Chris,


 I see the same, which is not really telling me how a message was
 routed to that folder. I was expecting something that showed the
 filter, or filters, used to move or copy it there.

 Have you ever taken a look at the Account's log? If not, please do. 
 'Account/View log', or 'Shift+Ctrl+A' or click on bottom status bar.



09 November 2013


That works OK, thanks for the tip. I have looked at the log but failed
to see the additional usage it could be put to. Maybe if something as
elegant as Fortes implementation isn't forthcoming a mention in the
help as to how the log might be used for looking at filters could be
added? thanks MAU 

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Re: Feature request? Messages display filtering used.

[MFPA]

Hi


On Friday 8 November 2013 at 5:30:39 PM, in
mid:1098350051.20131108113...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote:



 Hmmm.  If I follow the above instructions and
 right-click on your message (running a later version of
 TB! than yours), then click Test Filters this is what
 I get:

 http://clip2net.com/s/68hktS


Mine is just the seven tick-boxes and the OK, Help, Cancel buttons.




 And if I click OK, this is what I get:

 http://clip2net.com/s/68hlX5

 I do have a filter that routes all incoming TB!
 messages to my TB! folder.  Am I just not understanding
 what you said?  

Which boxes did you have ticked when clocking the OK button?

In my version, with just the incoming mail and re-filter selected
messages only boxes selected, for a single message in my TBUDL
folder, clicking OK gets me two dialog boxes. 

The first has a title of test results and a body text of Processed
by: The Bat! User Discussion List. Actions performed: Moved to the
folder \\[Path to]\The Bat! User Discussion List. That dialog box also
has an OK button and when I click, the box disappears and shows the
second one that was hidden behind it. (My filter and my folder for
TBUDL messages are both called The Bat! User Discussion List)

That one's title is Test filters and its body text is Messages
processed: 1. Messages Filtered: 1. Re-filtering complete. There are
Close and Help buttons.

For what it's worth, ticking the log filtering results box appears 
to make no difference. The results of the Test Filters function do 
not appear in the account log. Maybe they are written to another file 
somewhere, but I have never felt the need to look for one.


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Re: Feature request? Messages display filtering used.

[MFPA]

Hi


On Friday 8 November 2013 at 10:33:31 PM, in
mid:1936778188.20131108223...@chriswilson.tv, Chris Wilson wrote:


 I was expecting
 something that showed the filter, or filters, used to
 move or copy it there. I maintain this would be a very
 useful feature, hope I haven't misunderstood the Test
 Filters option, but I believe it does what it's
 supposed to do, but I would like to see something
 showing the history of the copy / move in future
 releases

That feature has existed in every TB! version I have used, from
whatever v2.x I started with in 2004 up to the v4.0.38 I use now.
Maybe they deliberately or accidentally removed it on a newer version. 

If nobody here knows, perhaps somebody on TBBeta can tell you. 
Or maybe RITlabs themselves.

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Re: Feature request? Messages display filtering used.

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello MFPA,

On Saturday, November 09, 2013 you wrote:


M Which boxes did you have ticked when clocking the OK button?

M In my version, with just the incoming mail and re-filter selected
M messages only boxes selected, for a single message in my TBUDL
M folder, clicking OK gets me two dialog boxes.

Ticking the boxes as you stated:

http://clip2net.com/s/68Djzd

Then clicking OK gets me this:

http://clip2net.com/s/68DoYt

M The first has a title of test results and a body text of Processed
M by: The Bat! User Discussion List. Actions performed: Moved to the
M folder \\[Path to]\The Bat! User Discussion List. That dialog box also
M has an OK button and when I click, the box disappears and shows the
M second one that was hidden behind it. (My filter and my folder for
M TBUDL messages are both called The Bat! User Discussion List)

M That one's title is Test filters and its body text is Messages
M processed: 1. Messages Filtered: 1. Re-filtering complete. There are
M Close and Help buttons.

As you can see, your Test filters box and mine differ.  The box within the 
box
contains a single long line which describes what actions were taken with this
message as follows:

Message from MFPA, subject Re: Feature request?  Messages display filtering
used., size 6,368 bytes filtered (processed by Processed by: Faux inbox.
Actions performed: Move to the folder \\Jack S.  LaRosa\Faux inbox, Processed
by: TBUDL List Server.  Actions performed: Move to the folder \\Jack S.
LaRosa\TBUDL), URL:
msgid:04868015.20131109140042@my_localhost?folder=\\Jack%20S.%20LaRosa\TBUDL

M For what it's worth, ticking the log filtering results box appears 
M to make no difference. The results of the Test Filters function do 
M not appear in the account log. Maybe they are written to another file 
M somewhere, but I have never felt the need to look for one.

Nowhere do I see an option to log filtering results.

I can only assume the difference in our versions is causing the disparity.  I've
never used the right-click test filters option anyway.  I usually use the
FOLDER + RE-FILTER and then only if I've created a new filter or modified an old
one.  Even then I'm only interested in whether the filter worked or not and not
in how it worked.  I can see however how such information might help in
determining why a new or modified folder failed to work.  I'll try it next time.


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Re: Feature request? Messages display filtering used.

[MFPA]

Hi


On Saturday 9 November 2013 at 4:36:25 PM, in
mid:659732828.20131109103...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote:


 As you can see, your Test filters box and mine
 differ.  The box within the box contains a single
 long line which describes what actions were taken with
 this message as follows:

 Message from MFPA, subject Re: Feature request?
 Messages display filtering used., size 6,368 bytes
 filtered (processed by Processed by: Faux inbox.
 Actions performed: Move to the folder \\Jack S.
 LaRosa\Faux inbox, Processed by: TBUDL List Server.
 Actions performed: Move to the folder \\Jack S.
 LaRosa\TBUDL), URL:
 msgid:04868015.20131109140042@my_localhost?folder=\\Jack%20S.%20LaRosa\TBUDL

That's good, it's still there. (-;
But an odd design decision to make you scroll across to see it.



M For what it's worth, ticking the log filtering
M results box appears  to make no difference. The
M results of the Test Filters function do  not appear
M in the account log. Maybe they are written to another
M file  somewhere, but I have never felt the need to
M look for one.

 Nowhere do I see an option to log filtering results.

It is on the screenshot you shared showing which boxes you ticked.



 I can only assume the difference in our versions is
 causing the disparity.  I've never used the right-click
 test filters option anyway.  I usually use the FOLDER
 + RE-FILTER and then only if I've created a new filter
 or modified an old one.  Even then I'm only interested
 in whether the filter worked or not and not in how it
 worked.  I can see however how such information might
 help in determining why a new or modified folder failed
 to work.  I'll try it next time.  

I find it useful if a message turns up in an unexpected folder. If the 
Test Filter results indicate it shouldn't have, I just re-filter. 
Otherwise I just move it manually, and consider whether a filter needs 
editing.


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Re: Feature request? Messages display filtering used.

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello MFPA,

On Saturday, November 09, 2013 you wrote:

M Hi


M On Saturday 9 November 2013 at 4:36:25 PM, in
M mid:659732828.20131109103...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote:


 As you can see, your Test filters box and mine
 differ.  The box within the box contains a single
 long line which describes what actions were taken with
 this message as follows:

 Message from MFPA, subject Re: Feature request?
 Messages display filtering used., size 6,368 bytes
 filtered (processed by Processed by: Faux inbox.
 Actions performed: Move to the folder \\Jack S.
 LaRosa\Faux inbox, Processed by: TBUDL List Server.
 Actions performed: Move to the folder \\Jack S.
 LaRosa\TBUDL), URL:
 msgid:04868015.20131109140042@my_localhost?folder=\\Jack%20S.%20LaRosa\TBUDL

M That's good, it's still there. (-;
M But an odd design decision to make you scroll across to see it.

Agreed, however, there may be a setting somewhere within the bowels of TB!
which govern that.

M For what it's worth, ticking the log filtering
M results box appears  to make no difference. The
M results of the Test Filters function do  not appear
M in the account log. Maybe they are written to another
M file  somewhere, but I have never felt the need to
M look for one.

 Nowhere do I see an option to log filtering results.

M It is on the screenshot you shared showing which boxes you ticked.

Ah!  Grayed out therefore ignored by my visual cortex.  Since you were able to
actually tick or un-tick that box, yours must not be grayed out.  No combination
of ticked and un-ticked boxes would un-gray that option for me.

 I can only assume the difference in our versions is
 causing the disparity.  I've never used the right-click
 test filters option anyway.  I usually use the FOLDER
 + RE-FILTER and then only if I've created a new filter
 or modified an old one.  Even then I'm only interested
 in whether the filter worked or not and not in how it
 worked.  I can see however how such information might
 help in determining why a new or modified folder failed
 to work.  I'll try it next time.  

M I find it useful if a message turns up in an unexpected folder. If the 
M Test Filter results indicate it shouldn't have, I just re-filter. 
M Otherwise I just move it manually, and consider whether a filter needs 
M editing.

The only times I can recall having a message land in the wrong folder is when
the sender changed something, which had been static, upon which I had been
filtering.  An examination of the filter and the errant message usually reveals
the problem.

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Re[2]: Feature request? Messages display filtering used.

[Chris Wilson]

 Hello MFPA,

 On Saturday, November 09, 2013 you wrote:


M Which boxes did you have ticked when clocking the OK button?

M In my version, with just the incoming mail and re-filter selected
M messages only boxes selected, for a single message in my TBUDL
M folder, clicking OK gets me two dialog boxes.

 Ticking the boxes as you stated:

 http://clip2net.com/s/68Djzd

 Then clicking OK gets me this:

 http://clip2net.com/s/68DoYt

M The first has a title of test results and a body text of Processed
M by: The Bat! User Discussion List. Actions performed: Moved to the
M folder \\[Path to]\The Bat! User Discussion List. That dialog box also
M has an OK button and when I click, the box disappears and shows the
M second one that was hidden behind it. (My filter and my folder for
M TBUDL messages are both called The Bat! User Discussion List)

M That one's title is Test filters and its body text is Messages
M processed: 1. Messages Filtered: 1. Re-filtering complete. There are
M Close and Help buttons.

 As you can see, your Test filters box and mine differ.  The box within the 
 box
 contains a single long line which describes what actions were taken with this
 message as follows:

 Message from MFPA, subject Re: Feature request?  Messages display filtering
 used., size 6,368 bytes filtered (processed by Processed by: Faux inbox.
 Actions performed: Move to the folder \\Jack S.  LaRosa\Faux inbox, 
 Processed
 by: TBUDL List Server.  Actions performed: Move to the folder \\Jack S.
 LaRosa\TBUDL), URL:
 msgid:04868015.20131109140042@my_localhost?folder=\\Jack%20S.%20LaRosa\TBUDL

M For what it's worth, ticking the log filtering results box appears 
M to make no difference. The results of the Test Filters function do 
M not appear in the account log. Maybe they are written to another file 
M somewhere, but I have never felt the need to look for one.

 Nowhere do I see an option to log filtering results.

 I can only assume the difference in our versions is causing the disparity.  
 I've
 never used the right-click test filters option anyway.  I usually use the
 FOLDER + RE-FILTER and then only if I've created a new filter or modified an 
 old
 one.  Even then I'm only interested in whether the filter worked or not and 
 not
 in how it worked.  I can see however how such information might help in
 determining why a new or modified folder failed to work.  I'll try it next 
 time.




09 November 2013


I wasn't aware of the window behind the first one. The second window
is there and does indeed do what I was hoping for, thanks for pointing
out where I was going wrong.

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Re: Feature request? Messages display filtering used.

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello MFPA,

On Friday, November 08, 2013 you wrote:

M Right-click any message in The Bat! and select Test Filters. You can
M find out the name of each filter that would process the message, and
M what action would be taken by the filter.

Hmmm.  If I follow the above instructions and right-click on your message
(running a later version of TB! than yours), then click Test Filters this is
what I get:

http://clip2net.com/s/68hktS

And if I click OK, this is what I get:

http://clip2net.com/s/68hlX5

I do have a filter that routes all incoming TB! messages to my TB! folder.  Am
I just not understanding what you said?

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Re[2]: Feature request? Messages display filtering used.

[Chris Wilson]

 Hello MFPA,

 On Friday, November 08, 2013 you wrote:

M Right-click any message in The Bat! and select Test Filters. You can
M find out the name of each filter that would process the message, and
M what action would be taken by the filter.

 Hmmm.  If I follow the above instructions and right-click on your message
 (running a later version of TB! than yours), then click Test Filters this is
 what I get:

 http://clip2net.com/s/68hktS

 And if I click OK, this is what I get:

 http://clip2net.com/s/68hlX5

 I do have a filter that routes all incoming TB! messages to my TB! folder.  Am
 I just not understanding what you said?



08 November 2013


I see the same, which is not really telling me how a message was
routed to that folder. I was expecting something that showed the
filter, or filters, used to move or copy it there. I maintain this
would be a very useful feature, hope I haven't misunderstood the Test
Filters option, but I believe it does what it's supposed to do, but
I would like to see something showing the history of the copy / move
in future releases ;) Thanks.

-- 

Chris Wilson

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Re: Feature request? Messages display filtering used.

[MFPA]

Hi


On Wednesday 6 November 2013 at 9:11:20 PM, in
mid:699935416.20131106211...@chriswilson.tv, Chris Wilson wrote:




 Not sure if this is an appropriate place to post this,
 but here goes.

https://www.ritlabs.com/bt used to be the place but I don't know 
now that isn't working.


 Forte Agent has a very useful feature whereby you can
 view why it has filtered (Routed in Agent speak) a
 message to a certain folder. With lots of folders and
 the occasional complex filter I feel this would be an
 extremely useful addition to The Bat!

 Screen shot at http://www.gatesgarth.com/routing.jpg


Right-click any message in The Bat! and select Test Filters. You can
find out the name of each filter that would process the message, and
what action would be taken by the filter. (I say would because it
tests using the current filter set, and you may have added, deleted,
or edited filters since that message came in.) As well as testing the
message against incoming filters you can also test it against read,
replied, or outgoing filters. Not pretty tables like your screenshot, 
but probably just as useful. I use it sometimes if a message appears 
in an unexpected folder, or to test after editing/adding filters.


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Feature request? Messages display filtering used.

[Chris Wilson]

06 November 2013



Not sure if this is an appropriate place to post this, but here goes.

Forte Agent has a very useful feature whereby you can view why it has
filtered (Routed in Agent speak) a message to a certain folder. With
lots of folders and the occasional complex filter I feel this would be
an extremely useful addition to The Bat!

Screen shot at http://www.gatesgarth.com/routing.jpg


Thanks.



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Re: 5.4 Quick Filtering

[Rick]

BM On Mon, 2013-07-29, Rick wrote:
 I seem to remember that there was SOME keystroke that would filter the
 currently  viewed  folder  base  on  the message you were viewing (all
 email  in  the  folder from that sender for instance) I am not talking
 about copying to the search box and letting it create a tab

BM Try holding the Alt-shift while left-clicking on the particular 
BM field in the message list. (Esc to undo.)

Thanks for the response
That is not working for me for some reason

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Re: 5.4 Quick Filtering

[MAU]

Hello Rick,


BM Try holding the Alt-shift while left-clicking on the particular 
BM field in the message list. (Esc to undo.)

 Thanks for the response
 That is not working for me for some reason

Do not use the shift key. Try only Alt+click

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Re: 5.4 Quick Filtering

[Rick]

Do not use the shift key. Try only Alt+click
That doesn't work either ... and I KNOW it was working at one point

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Re: 5.4 Quick Filtering

[Rick]

Do not use the shift key. Try only Alt+click 
 That doesn't work either ... and I KNOW it was working at one point
ALT and click the MESSAGE and it works (not in the displayed header info)
WOO HOO Thanks

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5.4 Quick Filtering

[Rick]

I seem to remember that there was SOME keystroke that would filter the
currently  viewed  folder  base  on  the message you were viewing (all
email  in  the  folder from that sender for instance) I am not talking
about copying to the search box and letting it create a tab

Does anyone remember this?
Thanks in advance
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become a business plan, with a bottom line for every human activity, every 
dream, every decency, every hope. The main parliamentary parties are now 
devoted to the same economic policies - socialism for the rich, capitalism for 
the poor - and the same foreign policy of servility to endless war. This is not 
democracy. It is to politics what McDonalds is to food.
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Re: 5.4 Quick Filtering

[Bill McQuillan]

On Mon, 2013-07-29, Rick wrote:
 I seem to remember that there was SOME keystroke that would filter the
 currently  viewed  folder  base  on  the message you were viewing (all
 email  in  the  folder from that sender for instance) I am not talking
 about copying to the search box and letting it create a tab

Try holding the Alt-shift while left-clicking on the particular 
field in the message list. (Esc to undo.)

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Re: IMAP issues, was Filtering across accounts

[TheLimit]

On 7/26/2010 you wrote:


 There is hope. I just tested the latest Alpha and IMAP is starting to look 
 like
 its working much better. 


rotfl!

I mean, it's great to know that and all, but I had hoped
there was something I could do now!

So should I take that to mean that my SIL has the correct
opinion of TB!'s IMAP, and I must stop abusing him because
his annoying opinion is justified? I was going to ask him
if something needed tweaking on the server side, but I
think maybe I'll just lay low on that for a while ...

Thanks for the opinion and the heads up! 

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Re: IMAP issues, was Filtering across accounts

[MFPA]

Hi


On Tuesday 27 July 2010 at 12:00:45 AM, in
mid:19486433.20100726160...@comcast.net, TheLimit wrote:


 Hmm. I don't use common filters. Better look at that
 ... maybe that's the ticket!

I find it much easier, since I don't need multiple duplicated filters
when a contact uses several different addresses for me.



 Amazingly - bearing in mind that I was wrestling with
 the thing over a couple of days - at some point
 yesterday all the messages in the POP inbox did get
 shifted over to the correct folder in the IMAP box.
 Several times, apparently; there are now multiple dupes
 in that folder.

 I have no way to know, of course, which filter model
 was effective, but operating on the KISS principle,
 I'll just assume it was the 'move' filter I posted to
 the list. 

You could look at the message headers. Redirected messages will have
an extra few lines at the top relating to the journey from your POP
account via SMTP to your IMAP account.

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Re: IMAP issues, was Filtering across accounts

[TheLimit]

On 7/27/2010 you wrote:

 Hmm. I don't use common filters. Better look at that
 ... maybe that's the ticket!

 I find it much easier, since I don't need multiple duplicated filters
 when a contact uses several different addresses for me.

Yes, that does make sense. Sometimes old habits should die
easier :-)

[snip]

 You could look at the message headers. Redirected messages will have
 an extra few lines at the top relating to the journey from your POP
 account via SMTP to your IMAP account.

Ah. I'll do that.

Thanks a million!

 A closed mouth gathers no foot

Ain't it the truth! lol!

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Re: Filtering across accounts

[MFPA]

Hi


On Monday 26 July 2010 at 6:38:14 AM, in
mid:199967424.20100725223...@comcast.net, TheLimit wrote:



 On 7/25/2010 you wrote:

 Hello Lynn,

 On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:25:33 -0700 GMT (26/Jul/10,
 3:25 AM +0700 GMT), TheLimit wrote:

T I thought the easy way to deal with this would just
T be to filter these emails from the 'wrong' account
T to a folder in the 'right' account, since the filter
T options imply strongly that you can do just this.

 Yes, this works over here. If the fitler is triggered
 it performs a Move To action.

It works here, too. As long as I make sure the message isn't caught by
an earlier filter in the list that doesn't continue processing other
filters. I use all common filters so have to make sure I share the
filter with all necessary accounts.



 Send us your filter for disection.

 Yessir! Attached.

Looks OK to me. As long as Terry is always using that from address. 
And if it's a common filter, you have it shared with the appropriate 
accounts. 

Does test filters suggest it should work? (Select a message and 
right-click..)

I also have no IMAP experience.


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Re:IMAP issues, was Filtering across accounts

[TheLimit]

On 7/26/2010 you wrote:

 Hi


 On Monday 26 July 2010 at 6:38:14 AM, in
 mid:199967424.20100725223...@comcast.net, TheLimit wrote:



 On 7/25/2010 you wrote:

 Hello Lynn,

 On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:25:33 -0700 GMT (26/Jul/10,
 3:25 AM +0700 GMT), TheLimit wrote:

T I thought the easy way to deal with this would just
T be to filter these emails from the 'wrong' account
T to a folder in the 'right' account, since the filter
T options imply strongly that you can do just this.

 Yes, this works over here. If the fitler is triggered
 it performs a Move To action.

 It works here, too. As long as I make sure the message isn't caught by
 an earlier filter in the list that doesn't continue processing other
 filters. I use all common filters so have to make sure I share the
 filter with all necessary accounts.

Hmm. I don't use common filters. Better look at that ...
maybe that's the ticket!

[little snip]

 Looks OK to me. As long as Terry is always using that from address.

Yes.

 And if it's a common filter, you have it shared with the appropriate
 accounts.

No, but I'll remember for other applications  :-)

 Does test filters suggest it should work? (Select a message and
 right-click..)

That too - thanks.

Which brings me to -

Amazingly - bearing in mind that I was wrestling with the
thing over a couple of days - at some point yesterday all
the messages in the POP inbox did get shifted over to the
correct folder in the IMAP box.  Several times,
apparently; there are now multiple dupes in that folder.

I have no way to know, of course, which filter model was
effective, but operating on the KISS principle, I'll just
assume it was the 'move' filter I posted to the list. Now
I just need to get rid of the dupes, but has anybody got a
clue why this delay happened?  A way to fix it?

One of the things that is driving me mad with this IMAP
account is that there is always a lag for anything I do,
except initiating or replying to a message. Deletes
sometimes take all day, even if I close the mailer and
reopen it.  Because it doesn't delete immediately, I am
afraid it will delete something I didn't intend to dump,
and it does seem to have eaten a few messages along the
way.

I don't see this lag in the POP accounts.

For those who didn't catch my first message with all the
info, the IMAP accounts are on my freeBSD server, which is
running PostFix.  In case that's relevant.  It's probably
also relevant that I'm no Linux wizard, (or even literate
there) and have not yet figured out how all that stuff
works.

Again, many thanks in advance for any wisdom you have to
offer!

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Re: IMAP issues, was Filtering across accounts

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello TheLimit,
  A reminder of what TheLimit typed on:
  Monday, July 26, 2010 at 16:00:45 GMT -0700

T One of the things that is driving me mad with this IMAP
T account is that there is always a lag for anything I do,
T except initiating or replying to a message. Deletes
T sometimes take all day, even if I close the mailer and
T reopen it.  Because it doesn't delete immediately, I am
T afraid it will delete something I didn't intend to dump,
T and it does seem to have eaten a few messages along the
T way.

There is hope. I just tested the latest Alpha and IMAP is starting to look like 
its working much better. 

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Filtering across accounts

[TheLimit]

Hey Batters -

I use a lot of filters here, the filters are one of the
things that make it impossible for me to use a different 
mailer, but I'm having some issues now. 

I've had to rebuild my whole email db, as I mentioned
recently, and I've also acquired a few more accounts.
Because of the problems I've been having the last year or
so with the scrambled db (post trojan infection some
installs/reinstalls didn't take as well as I expected, and
to make a long story short, I have abandoned 10+ years of
email and started over) people are often using the 'wrong'
addy to email me, and though I'll eventually get
them sorted out, in the meantime my correspondence is a
shambles.

I thought the easy way to deal with this would just be to
filter these emails from the 'wrong' account to a
folder in the 'right' account, since the filter options
imply strongly that you can do just this.

However, this isn't happening, and I can't figure out why.
Since a couple of hours of tinkering had no useful
result, and one of the options in the filters is to
'redirect the message', I thought that would probably
work.

However, I struck out there, too.

I should say that I have both POP and IMAP accounts in
this mess, and at the moment I am trying to filter from a
POP account (gmail) to an IMAP (local, my freebsd server
running postfix) account.

So .. can anybody tell me where I'm going wrong?

Eternal gratitude in advance -

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Re: Filtering across accounts

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Lynn,

On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:25:33 -0700 GMT (26/Jul/10, 3:25 AM +0700 GMT),
TheLimit wrote:

T I thought the easy way to deal with this would just be to
T filter these emails from the 'wrong' account to a
T folder in the 'right' account, since the filter options
T imply strongly that you can do just this.

Yes, this works over here. If the fitler is triggered it performs a
Move To action.

T However, this isn't happening, and I can't figure out why.

Send us your filter for disection.

My guess is that either the filtering condition isn't what you think
it is, or there is another filter catching that mail and not
continuing with other filters.

T Since a couple of hours of tinkering had no useful result, and one
T of the options in the filters is to 'redirect the message', I
T thought that would probably work.

That's a completed different think. The Move filter will move the
message in the DB on your computer, Redirect will send it by SMTP to
the other email address, which by coincidence is also read by your
TB!.

T I should say that I have both POP and IMAP accounts in this mess,
T and at the moment I am trying to filter from a POP account (gmail)
T to an IMAP (local, my freebsd server running postfix) account.

OK, I can talk only about POP. Don't know whether Move would work
to/from an IMAP account.

T Eternal gratitude in advance -

Are you sre about the 'eternal' part? ;-)

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Re: Filtering across accounts

[TheLimit]

On 7/25/2010 you wrote:

 Hello Lynn,

 On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:25:33 -0700 GMT (26/Jul/10, 3:25 AM +0700 GMT),
 TheLimit wrote:

T I thought the easy way to deal with this would just be to
T filter these emails from the 'wrong' account to a
T folder in the 'right' account, since the filter options
T imply strongly that you can do just this.

 Yes, this works over here. If the fitler is triggered it performs a
 Move To action.

Yes, I've had other filters that worked fine across
accounts.  But this one doesn't.

T However, this isn't happening, and I can't figure out why.

 Send us your filter for disection.

Yessir! Attached.

 My guess is that either the filtering condition isn't what you think
 it is, or there is another filter catching that mail and not
 continuing with other filters.

Mmm. I was thinking on those lines too, but can't find it.

T Since a couple of hours of tinkering had no useful result, and one
T of the options in the filters is to 'redirect the message', I
T thought that would probably work.

 That's a completed different think. The Move filter will move the
 message in the DB on your computer, Redirect will send it by SMTP to
 the other email address, which by coincidence is also read by your
 TB!.

This is all true :-) However, it would get it from the
gmail inbox to the perseus inbox, where the local filter
which *does* work in that account could shuffle it off to
it's correct folder.

Theoretically.

T I should say that I have both POP and IMAP accounts in this mess,
T and at the moment I am trying to filter from a POP account (gmail)
T to an IMAP (local, my freebsd server running postfix) account.

 OK, I can talk only about POP. Don't know whether Move would work
 to/from an IMAP account.

Well, it's true that there are some definite weirdnesses
about IMAP accounts, which I don't much like, in truth.
But for assorted reasons I went that route here, and I'm
kind of doggedly determined to make it work, you know?

T Eternal gratitude in advance -

 Are you sre about the 'eternal' part? ;-)

Sure I'm sure. Aren't you sure? If we can't be sure about
eternity, what can we be sure about? ;-)

What we CAN'T be sure about is the spell checkers!

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beginFilter
UID: [054E7612.01CB2C32.2ADC997A.35462964]
Name: Terry
Filter: {\0d\0a\20`0`0`rubytu...@live.com\0d\0a}
MoveMessage folder \5C\5CLynn\5CFriends\5CTerry
IsContinue
IsActive
Ignore
IsSendNow
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Re: Filtering across accounts

[TheLimit]

On 7/25/2010 you wrote:

 Send us your filter for disection.

Here is the redirect filter -

 That's a completed different think. The Move filter will move the
 message in the DB on your computer, Redirect will send it by SMTP to
 the other email address, which by coincidence is also read by your

The thing is, it IS different, so I would expect to see
some difference in the result. But no, no difference at
all. The messages just sit there ...

This is probably going to be something monumentally
stupid, but I have a lot of filters that DO work, and I'm
not sure I don't have one right now that is working across
accounts! 

tia!

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beginFilter
UID: [054E7612.01CB2C32.2ADC997A.35462964]
Name: Terry
Filter: {\0d\0a\20`0`0`rubytu...@live.com\0d\0a}
Redirect template 
Hello\20%TOFName,\0D\0A\0D\0A\20\20%Cursor\0D\0A\0D\0A--\20\0D\0ABest\20regards,\0D\0A\20%FromFName\20\20\20\20\20\20\20\20\20\20\20\20\20\20\20\20\20\20\20\20\20\20\20\20\20\20mailto:%FromAddr
 send address l...@turriff.net
IsContinue
IsActive
Ignore
IsSendNow
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Re: Inline Filtering

[Mr Happy]

On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 09:33:18 +1000, Robin Anson
robin.an...@optusnet.com.au wrote:

On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 at 23:30:26 +1000, Mr Happy wrote:
 Right, I think I've worked out how to reproduce it. If I highlight the
 message that will be shown when I use the filter, when I use the
 filter, the 'no message loaded' does not appear (ie it works fine).
 However, if I highlight the message above the message that will be
 shown when filtered, and then use the filter, when the filtered
 message is shown, the 'no message loaded' does appear (ie it doesn't
 work).

 I'm not sure why you guys can't replicate it - I've had this bug on
 every single PC I've ever used The Bat on (it's always driven me nuts,
 it's just that I've never complained about it before).

I'm slightly confused - are you talking about using the Quick Search
toolbar? That seems to be the context of your original problem. If that is
the case then I am unable to reproduce the example you have described above.

However,  MFPA  expires2...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Works OK here using v4.0.38 on Windows XP. I just searched for
messages where header contains 753412370.20090621220...@otten.tv,
which is the message-id of Roelof's post I'm replying to. Obviously it
only found one. When I select that one by clicking on it, the no
message loaded in the preview pane is replaced by the message text.
and that can't be done using the Quick Search toolbar - I think it only
looks in the TO, FROM and SUBJECT fields and it doesn't look in the message-id
header field.

Ah, I think you may be onto something Robin. I think Roelof and MFPA
may have tested the wrong thing. The filter/search thing I'm referring
to is the one on the main Bat toolbar, it has a field 'search', a
'next' button to the right, and a 'previous' button to the left. So
yes, it is probably called the Quick Search (if The Bat helpfile
mentions what it is called, I can't find it - The Bat really, really
badly needs some proper documentation). I don't think it accepts
message-id, but I didn't pick up on that until you mentioned it.

Anyway, click in that search field on the toolbar, type in something
that will only produce one message as the result, and then click on it
and see what it shows in the preview pane below the message list. If
you had highlighted another message apart from the one listed in the
results of the search before you did the search, 'no message loaded'
will appear and you won't be able to read the message. If you
highlighted that message that appears in the results before you did
the search though, it looks as though it works ok.
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Re: Inline Filtering

[MFPA]

Hi

On Thursday 25 June 2009 at 8:15:59 AM, in
mid:bm8645hg3oh352rrdqubu4t6tdi2vit...@4ax.com, Mr Happy wrote:



 Ah, I think you may be onto something Robin. I think
 Roelof and MFPA may have tested the wrong thing.


I can't speak for Roelof but I tested the full search function. I had
forgotten about the quick search: it never gave me any useful results
so I have long since stopped displaying it on my toolbar. (-;


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Re: Inline Filtering

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Chris,

On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:15:59 +1000GMT (25-6-2009, 9:15 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

C I think Roelof and MFPA may have tested the wrong thing.

Nope. Roelof tested the quick search.

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Re: Inline Filtering

[Mr Happy]

On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 23:18:11 +0100, MFPA
expires2...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

Works OK here using v4.0.38 on Windows XP. I just searched for
messages where header contains 753412370.20090621220...@otten.tv,
which is the message-id of Roelof's post I'm replying to. Obviously it
only found one. When I select that one by clicking on it, the no
message loaded in the preview pane is replaced by the message text.

Hm,

Right, I think I've worked out how to reproduce it. If I highlight the
message that will be shown when I use the filter, when I use the
filter, the 'no message loaded' does not appear (ie it works fine).
However, if I highlight the message above the message that will be
shown when filtered, and then use the filter, when the filtered
message is shown, the 'no message loaded' does appear (ie it doesn't
work).

I'm not sure why you guys can't replicate it - I've had this bug on
every single PC I've ever used The Bat on (it's always driven me nuts,
it's just that I've never complained about it before).
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Re: Inline Filtering

[Robin Anson]

On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 at 23:30:26 +1000, Mr Happy wrote:
 Right, I think I've worked out how to reproduce it. If I highlight the
 message that will be shown when I use the filter, when I use the
 filter, the 'no message loaded' does not appear (ie it works fine).
 However, if I highlight the message above the message that will be
 shown when filtered, and then use the filter, when the filtered
 message is shown, the 'no message loaded' does appear (ie it doesn't
 work).

 I'm not sure why you guys can't replicate it - I've had this bug on
 every single PC I've ever used The Bat on (it's always driven me nuts,
 it's just that I've never complained about it before).

I'm slightly confused - are you talking about using the Quick Search
toolbar? That seems to be the context of your original problem. If that is
the case then I am unable to reproduce the example you have described above.

However,  MFPA  expires2...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Works OK here using v4.0.38 on Windows XP. I just searched for
messages where header contains 753412370.20090621220...@otten.tv,
which is the message-id of Roelof's post I'm replying to. Obviously it
only found one. When I select that one by clicking on it, the no
message loaded in the preview pane is replaced by the message text.
and that can't be done using the Quick Search toolbar - I think it only
looks in the TO, FROM and SUBJECT fields and it doesn't look in the message-id
header field.

-- 
Robin

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Inline Filtering

[Mr Happy]

Hi everyone,

I think there may be a bug in the inline filtering. Open my inbox,
click in the filtering field, type in some text (say a persons name),
it only finds one match. I then click on that message, but all it says
in the preview pane is 'no message loaded'. If your filtering finds
two or more messages, you can click on one of the other messages, then
click back on the first message, and it will display, but you cannot
do this when you have only one match - you have to double click on it
to open it (so the bug is the message text not displaying in the
preview pane when you filter and the message is the first message in
the list of matching messages).
-- 

Regards,

Mr Happy



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Re: Inline Filtering

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Chris,

On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 23:03:42 +1000GMT (21-6-2009, 15:03 +0200, where
I live), you wrote:

C I think there may be a bug in the inline filtering. Open my inbox,
C click in the filtering field, type in some text (say a persons name),
C it only finds one match. I then click on that message, but all it says
C in the preview pane is 'no message loaded'. If your filtering finds
C two or more messages, you can click on one of the other messages, then
C click back on the first message, and it will display, but you cannot
C do this when you have only one match - you have to double click on it
C to open it (so the bug is the message text not displaying in the
C preview pane when you filter and the message is the first message in
C the list of matching messages).

Cannot confirm

-- 
Groetjes, Roelof

Say it with flowers.  Give her a Triffid
http://www.voormijalleen.nl/
The Bat! 4.2.6
Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1
6 pop3 accounts, 1 imap account
OTFE enabled
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Re: Inline Filtering

[MFPA]

Hi

On Sunday 21 June 2009 at 9:00:36 PM, in
mid:753412370.20090621220...@otten.tv, Roelof Otten wrote:




 Cannot confirm


Works OK here using v4.0.38 on Windows XP. I just searched for
messages where header contains 753412370.20090621220...@otten.tv,
which is the message-id of Roelof's post I'm replying to. Obviously it
only found one. When I select that one by clicking on it, the no
message loaded in the preview pane is replaced by the message text.


-- 
Best regards,
 
MFPA

The truth is rarely pure and never simple

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Re: IMAP filtering

[simbabque]

Hello Dwight,

Saturday, March 21, 2009, 7:52:39 PM, Dwight Corrin wrote:

 On Tuesday, March 17, 2009, 1:15:06 PM, Peter Fjelsten wrote:

 Has anyone encountered a similar problem or any idea why this happens?

 I  don't  understand why you don't sort the mail in your IMAP account 
 as it arrives there. I do virtually no filtering with TB! anymore. 

Because I can't. It's my work account and our admin does not allow us
to do anything at all besides recieving and sending mail. I guess they
haven't figured out the benefits or are reluctant to give the non-IT
people (as opposed to us) any opportunity to mess up their system.

In the office I have to use Thunderbird (because I don't want
Outlook), which has limited filtering capabilities, but gets the job
done. Here at home, well. Last couple of days it worked again. Now it
stopped. I'll just wait and see.

-- 
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Re: IMAP filtering

[Peter Fjelsten]

Dwight,

On 21-03-2009 19:52, you wrote in mid:425125927.20090321135...@fastmail.fm:
 I  don't  understand why you don't sort the mail in your IMAP account
 as it arrives there. I do virtually no filtering with TB! anymore.

Possible reasons:

* If you are unable to do server side filtering

* If you sometimes read mail via a mobile phone that is only able to download
  mail from the Inbox folder. (This is my reason.)

-- 
greeting Best regards /greeting  
author Peter Fjelsten /author 
thebat version 4.0.39.33 (BETA) Pro /thebat versionextras MyGate, AVG 
/extras
env. 12 IMAP (Courier)  1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 1 POP3 MyGate, 300K+ msgs. 
/env.
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Re: IMAP filtering

[Dwight Corrin]

On Tuesday, March 17, 2009, 1:15:06 PM, Peter Fjelsten wrote:

 Has anyone encountered a similar problem or any idea why this happens?


I  don't  understand why you don't sort the mail in your IMAP account 
as it arrives there. I do virtually no filtering with TB! anymore. 

-- 
Dwight A. Corrin
316.303.9385  phone ahead to fax
dcorrin at fastmail.fm
photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com
photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com
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IMAP filtering

[simbabque]

Hello Tbudl,

I've got an IMAP account with lots of mail. I connect through the
internet with a 1024/128 kbit/s line. The account is checked in
intervals of 10 minutes and it disconnects after 2 minutes. Only mails
below a certain size get downloaded completely. For the others, it
only gets the headers. So far, that's all working quite ok.

I've set up several filters to move mails to different folders. Now
what is strange is that they sometimes work, and sometimes they don't.
Some messages would show up in the right folders on their own, but
often nothing happens. When I try to refilter them (no difference
whether selected or not), it says they were filtered, it shows it in
the log, but it does not move them. Doesn't matter whether they're
read or unread, either.

I've not figured out what the conditions are for this to happen. First
I belived it might be connected with lag, because I sometimes download
a lot of stuff. But it also happens when the whole bandwidth is
available.

I don't just want to blame the weak IMAP implementation because it
does work from time to time. E.g. there're like 10 filtered and 20 not
filtered unread messages in the account right now.

Has anyone encountered a similar problem or any idea why this happens?

Thanks and regards,
simbabque

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Re: IMAP filtering

[Peter Fjelsten]

simbabque,

On 17-03-2009 16:11, you wrote in mid:184711774.20090317161...@web.de:
 Has anyone encountered a similar problem or any idea why this happens?

Yes and no.

I think it's the weak IMAP implementation (I have a 20/2 MBit line).

-- 
greeting Best regards /greeting  
author Peter Fjelsten /author 
thebat version 4.0.39.33 (BETA) Pro /thebat versionextras MyGate, AVG 
/extras
env. 12 IMAP (Courier)  1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 1 POP3 MyGate, 300K+ msgs. 
/env.
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Change Defaults for Re-Filtering?

[Jonathan Andrew Sheen]

Is there anyplace -- even a registry entry or .ini file -- where I can change 
the defaults on the Re-Filter Messages command so that it does _NOT_ default 
to log results?

--

Jonathan Andrew Sheen

http://www.leviathanstudios.com
Leviathan of the GEI (Detached.)
jsh...@leviathanstudios.com

What'dya expect? I'm a New Yorker!
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Re: Auto filtering of incoming mail

[Jon Polish]

Hi Sefan:

I hope all is well with you. I have not heard anything further and am
wondering if this will ever get resolved.

Jon
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Re: Auto filtering of incoming mail

[Jon Polish]

On Monday, September 15, 2008, 4:48:48 AM, Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

ST Hello Jon,

JP I sent the files as instructed, but have not heard back. Did you
JP receive them?

ST   Yes I did.  Please excuse me for answering so late - I had to
ST   resolve some local problems last week...

Any updates? I cannot sort this problem out. I tried deleting all the
account.srb files and rebuilding the filters. I was unsuccessful in
getting my main account to filter automatically.

Thank you for your help.

Jon


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We're spending money on clean coal technology. Do you realize we've
got 250 million years of coal?— George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.,
June 8, 2005



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Re: Auto filtering of incoming mail

[Jon Polish]

On Monday, September 15, 2008, 4:48:48 AM, Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

ST Hello Jon,

JP I sent the files as instructed, but have not heard back. Did you
JP receive them?

ST   Yes I did.  Please excuse me for answering so late - I had to
ST   resolve some local problems last week... Additionally, your server
ST   refuses my messages because something is blocked for abuse.

Sorry. I don't know what that is about. Yours is the first complaint.
I will sent you a PM with another address.

ST   I'm playing with your files, but could not see any anomaly so far -
ST   everything just works fine, I can add, edit, delete filters and they
ST   continue to work.

Same here, but they just do not trigger automatically during the
download process. If I use the original file (untouched), the
filtering is automatic, but for some reason it takes forever to delete
each message on the server and then log off.

ST   May be something is wrong with your message base? Is there anything
ST   strange in the log files? Also, do the filters fail to work in all
ST   accounts or just in some of them?

I do not detect anything awry with the message base. It is regularly
- at least once a day for all folders in all accounts - compressed.
It seems that the failure is with the account named Jon Polish. The
other accounts seem to be working automatically.

Jon

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The march to war affected the people's confidence. It's hard to make
investment. See, if you're a small business owner or a large business
owner and you're thinking about investing, you've got to be optimistic
when you invest. Except when you're marching to war, it's not a very
optimistic thought, is it? In other words, it's the opposite of
optimistic when you're thinking you're going to war. —George W. Bush,
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Re: Auto filtering of incoming mail

[Jon Polish]

On Friday, September 5, 2008, 5:29:11 AM, Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

ST Hello Jon,

ST I need to examine both of the .srb files (the original one and the
ST other one after modification). Could you please send them to me
ST privately?

Hi Stefan:

I sent the files as instructed, but have not heard back. Did you
receive them?

Jon

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Re: Auto filtering of incoming mail

[Stefan Tanurkov]

Hello Jon,


JP Thanks for replying. No, they are not set to manual. The funny thing
JP is that when I restore the account.srb files (I have several accounts)
JP from version 3.99, the filters all work automatically.

I need to examine both of the .srb files (the original one and the
other one after modification). Could you please send them to me
privately?

-- 
Best regards,
 Stefan 



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Re: Auto filtering of incoming mail

[Jon Polish]

On Friday, September 5, 2008, 5:29:11 AM, Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

ST Hello Jon,


JP Thanks for replying. No, they are not set to manual. The funny thing
JP is that when I restore the account.srb files (I have several accounts)
JP from version 3.99, the filters all work automatically.

ST I need to examine both of the .srb files (the original one and the
ST other one after modification). Could you please send them to me
ST privately?

Sure. They are on their way. Please let me know what you find and if I
screwed up.

Jon


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Re: Auto filtering of incoming mail

[Stefan Tanurkov]

Hello Jon,

JP I had a number of filters which automatically sort incoming mail
JP to different folders.  The filters worked perfectly until some
JP time after v4.0.x.

Could you please check whether those filters have the Manual Only flag
set?


-- 
Best regards,
 Stefan 



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