Re: [users] Legal but
On Sunday 30 September 2007 12:18, James Knott wrote: Jim Hartley wrote: See how easy it is when you understand the workings of big corporations? Oh, I understand. I used to work for IBM, at two different times in my career. So do I. IBM screwed all the OS/2 users with their lack of intestinal fortitude. -- Bob Smits [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] starting
On Tuesday 25 September 2007 04:35, Gilles Mousseau wrote: i have installed and uninstalled OpenOficce 2.3 three times and i can't get it to open, it just keeps repeating the installation. what do i do? thank you You've left out some things that would make it easier to assist you - like, for example what operating system and version you're using. It may be somewhat different if you're installing on Windows XP, for example than on OpenSuse Linux 10.2. If you're using Windows, my guess is that you've downloaded the install file to your desktop, and you're clicking on the install program icon instead of the OpenOffice 2.3 proram icon. If you click on start, then all programs, can you find OpenOffice? -- Bob Smits [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows - noun. 1. Global virus. 2. 32 bit extension and a graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit operating system originally coded for a 4 bit microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition. - Harry Martin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] OOo user list survey
On Sunday 23 September 2007 21:33, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to find out how many people are actually subscribed to this User List to see if there is justification to make changes to how the list works with regard to subscribe requirements or not. Okay this will only work best if everyone subscribed will do this. Even if you don't ever post and answer posts, please work with me on this one. How this survey works. Just click the reply function in your e-mail client without typing anything and send it back to the list. Don't do it more than once even if you do not see it appear. Since I started this I will not send a reply. -- Bob Smits [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Re: Identifying Unsubscribed Posters
On September 20, 2007 11:49:23 pm Diabolic Preacher wrote: On 9/21/07, Robert Smits [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then, for pity's sake, USE A REAL EMAIL PROGRAM to read the list! oi! why are ye shouting! 'real' email program, eh? what about us GMail/Yahoo/any other web-based mail users. i know GMail provides POP, but if it gives 2.9 gb why should i even think of using some desktop client. (even the spam filtering is good) and through the week switching between hostel and home, and not having a fixed terminal to work on, web-based email is the best option we have. You're missing the whole point, as does Larry. It's not about what email program you use to read mail, it's about complaining about the setup of the listserve because you have problems when you read it mirrored to a newsgroup. If that's a problem read it via email. -- Bob Smits Ph 250-245-2553 Fax 250-245-5531 E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Re: Identifying Unsubscribed Posters
On Wednesday 19 September 2007 12:23, Larry Gusaas wrote: I am not complaining about people CCing the original poster. I AM complaining about people being able to post without being subscribed. As I explained elsewhere, I can not filter for unsubscribed posters when I use the Gmane newsgroup to receive messages. Then, for pity's sake, USE A REAL EMAIL PROGRAM to read the list! There is not this problem on any of the Mozilla newsgroups I follow. To post by email on them, you have to subscribe. They have none of this unsubscribed posters BS. So what? This is an email list, not a newsgroup! If you insist, for whatever reason, on reading it from a news server, please stop trying to prevent the rest of us from helping others that haven't subscribed. This bloody thread must have driven away hundreds of readers. -- Bob Smits [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] IBM Lotus Symphony
On Tuesday 18 September 2007 20:42, Howard Coles Jr. wrote: I wouldn't get too excited. They claim to support SLED and Red Hat, but their download isn't even available in RPM format. Looks like typical IBM cluelessness. Actually, they are not The losers who decided to go RPM with OOo are. Sorry, that's my opinion now, was when the switch was made and will be till its changed back. Your rudeness not withstanding, when IBM claims to support distros like Red Hat and Suse, they need to supply their software in the ways that users of these distros expect to install them. That means if they're serious about wanting people to use Symphony they'd supply the download in all popular formats, and especially in formats they claim to support. IBM has never been particularly clueful. They certainly weren't in the way they treated their OS/2 users and software developers. The good news about Symphony is that its installed via a bin file executable which actually runs a distro neutral installer. It worked well on my Kubuntu Laptop!! Unlike OOo which I can't download from the OOo web site because somebody thought RPM is the ONLY package management system, and all the others could just use alien anyway. What are you talking about? OO's website will let you download it in rpm AND debian formats as well as half a dozen other operating systems. (http://download.openoffice.org/2.3.0/index.html) Maybe you can tell I liked the installer setup better than favoring a package manager system? Maybe, but you missed the point entirely. People using SLED aren't going to seek out bin installers. IBM should know it. -- Bob Smits [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] horrible
On Wednesday 19 September 2007 06:53, Johan Mathew wrote: A lot of illiterate nonsense. Another windows troll heard from. -- Bob Smits [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] IBM Lotus Symphony
On Tuesday 18 September 2007 15:37, James Knott wrote: Those who have Lotus Smart Suite files may be interested in this. As I understand it, it's Smart Suite updated to work with ODF. http://symphony.lotus.com/software/lotus/symphony/home.jspa I wouldn't get too excited. They claim to support SLED and Red Hat, but their download isn't even available in RPM format. Looks like typical IBM cluelessness. -- Bob Smits [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Groklaw - The results of the ISO voting: Office Open XML is Disapproved
On Tuesday 11 September 2007 09:33, Jekke Bladt wrote: Back in 1998, I bought an IBM PC directly from IBM and there was no option to have OS/2 installed. If it's still a product, they're certainly not pushing it very hard. Yes, it's still being sold, but under the name Ecomstation, not OS/2. I hoped it would eventually reach a sufficient stage of maturity to have current drivers for everything and so on, but IBM's lack of marketing and support have essentially killed a product that was superior to Windows in many ways. eCs added a number of things, including an awful LVM system that was'nt necessary or needed, and added much complications to the install. (And it wasn't compatible with Linix LVM, either). IBM costs us a lot of time and money with their lackadaisical support for OS/2. I reminded them of that when they tried to sell us new ATMs for our credit union. -- Bob Smits [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] [moderated] Microsoft insecurity
On Wednesday 01 August 2007 18:31, Ken Burnside wrote: I run Windows at home/work, and take due precautions - firewall, anti-virus, anti-spyware, strip attachments into a different partition. I run in user mode, not admin mode. I run Windows because it runs the software that I need to be productive. I have used Ubuntu, Red Hat and SuSE, BeOS and Zeta...and it all comes down to this: Can I get my work done on these systems? And for most of the things I need to do, in the formats that my industry demands, the answer is a resounding No, not yet. Even when alternatives exist, with the NOTABLE exception of OO, the vast majority of the alternatives in Linux are harder to use, feature-incomplete, or documented in Rot-13 Urdu panagyrics. One of these days. But that day isn't today, it isn't going to be tomorrow, either. I don't disagree with you entirely, since I don't have to deal with the software you need to use. Some of the more specialized software I need to use, like my diabetes glucometer software is not available in Linux, at all. I have, however started the conversion by moving all my boxes to dual boot Opensuse Linux and Windows XP, moving as much of the functionality over to Linux as possible. I can probably do 80-90 % of my work without ever booting Windows at this point, and I keep finding new stuff to extend my Linux functionality. CrossOver Linux is very good at getting common software to run under Linux, and I use it for some legacy apps I don't want to convert data for, like my old Quicken files. (Wine is more cutting edge, but you're more on your own.) I think probably the most pressing need is for better Linux program documentation - especially documentation that doesn't expect you to begin by untarring files. I largely exempt Open Office from this observation, but even OO could use improvement dealing with mail merge and labels, etc. Guess that means each Linux user needs to help, too. -- Bob Smits [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Donation Issues
On Tuesday 03 July 2007 10:01, jonathon wrote: Joseph wrote: That is precisely why we need an address to which we can mail a check. If there isn't a physical address on the website, then no contributions from anybody who is located in, resides in, or a citizen of the state of California can be accepted. Technically, Form 990-N, or the equivalent also needs to be on the website. The website is hosted in Europe. Last I heard, California laws only apply in California. I agree it would be useful to have an address to mail funds to, though. -- Bob Smits [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Donation Issues
On Tuesday 03 July 2007 13:18, jonathon wrote: Robert Smits wrote: The website is hosted in Europe. Last I heard, California laws only apply in California. a) The California statute implies that it has jurisdiction worldwide. b) The US respects neither national sovereignty and jurisdiction. I certainly agree with point b. It's one reason the US has less and less respect worldwide. Unfortunately. Nevertheless, I have no intention of paying attention to silly California laws in any case. -- Bob Smits [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Donation Issues
On Monday 02 July 2007 04:23, jonathon wrote: Robert Smits wrote: bank a withdrawal of however many euros that works out to. That's hardly rocket science. Nope, but it is the best, and fastest way to ensure that OOo can not receive any funds, because of fraud. [My guess is that the first lawsuit will be filed within 60 days of that functionality being added to the account, with the restraining order taking affect within 90 days.] The reason for the fraud charges is because the amount cited on the website will not, and can not be the same as that which is withdrawn from the donor's bank account, unless the bank account uses the same currency. [The currencies that you can have your bank account in, depend upon what your bank offers. US Banks typically won't allow foreign currency accounts. Canadian banks may allow them.] Jonathan, thats complete and utter nonsense. Some of you folks seem to be grasping at any straw, no matter how implausible, to keep from making ANY change at all, even one to ensure OO gets more donations. To address your point, all you have to do is explain that the donation will be converted to euros and show that your donation of, for example, 100 pesos, will be charged as 25 Euros to the account. Inventing fantasies to make it impossible to accomodate donors is both churlish and counter-productive. -- Bob Smits [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Donation Issues
On Sunday 01 July 2007 23:54, Harold Fuchs wrote: I don't wish to place the burden anywhere. The fact it says Euros on the web page places the burden on the donor. It is *not* normally possible to buy/donate in a foreign currency. If I want to send my foreign mother-in-law money in her currency I have to make special arrangements and pay extra. If I want to buy US goods I have to pay in Dollars. That may be true where you live, but it's certainly not universal. And anyway, it's irrelevant. In addition, the exchange rate in force at the time the donor donates is irrelevant. The exchange rate used will be the one in force at the time the bank or credit card company debits the donor's account which could be several days or even weeks in the future. That's absolutely true , Harold, but it's not a problem. All you need to do is to have a currency converter at the front end on the web site. If you want to make a donation, you get asked how much, and what currency you want to use. If you say, for example, you want to donate $100 in Canadian dollars, the converter then advises you that you will be charged for however many euros that works out to at the moment. You are further advised that because of exchange rate fluctuations the actual amount deducted from your account may vary slightly from the $100 Canadian you donated. The OO Bank then processes the donation in Euros. What you have to remember is that most of the world does not use Euros and has no idea what a Euro is worth in their local currency. They may be more likely, as suggested by the OP, be more comfortable defining the amount of their donation in their local currency. The goal here should not be defense of everything as it is, but how can you maximize donations to OO. I viewed the OP suggestions as a friendly suggestion to garner more donations. Some of the replies on this suggestion seem to have viewed the suggestion as an attack on OO. The same is true when I travel abroad and use my credit card or withdraw cash from a hole-in-the-wall machine. I can buy travellers' cheques in advance but (a) it's a dwindling market and (b) I pay a premium. Also fewer and fewer shops accept them because of the risk. -- Bob Smits [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Donation Issues
On Monday 02 July 2007 10:37, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 02/07/2007 18:17:19 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No, I didn't. You are confused. I haven't sent you anything. You, however, are, or have been subscribed to the users@openoffice.org mailing list, and are getting these messages because you subscribed to the list. You got a message from me indirectly because it was posted to the whole list and not to you personally. Now, just go to the link you saw at the bottom of every post where it said: To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and send an email to that address. That will get you off the list much quicker than having a tantrum. -- Bob Smits [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Donation Issues
When you buy stuff in a foreign country you pay in that country's currency and the amount you get charged in your currency is not specifiable by you but depends on the exchange rate in force at the time your bank (or credit card company) debits your account. This is true whether or not you are physically present in the foreign country. Welcome to the world. The same applies when you make a donation in a foreign country which is what you are doing here. If you look carefully at the text on the donation page just above where it says Update Totals you will see it says EUR. That's short for Euros, the currency of the country (Germany) in which you are buying. You can tell it's Germany by reading the details of where you would send a Bank Transfer, just just below the Make a Donation button that you clicked on. With respect, Harold you're wrong. The OP did not ask to specify exactly what his donation would cost after factoring in the exchange rate. I'm sure he would be perfectly happy with whatever the adjustment was to his donation because of the exchange rate. Say someone wants to do is to make a donation of $100 US. Surely it's possible to have software calculate what the current exchange rate is and send the bank a withdrawal of however many euros that works out to. That's hardly rocket science. People may donate more to the project if they can make the donation in whatever currency they use, the bank can still get the withdrawal in euros and everyone would be happy. Why do you want to make it difficult to donate to the project? Surely it doesn't matter if we want to donate Euros, Canadian or US Dollars or Mexican pesos. - Bob Smits [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[users] How do I turn off Open Office auto formatting?
This afternoon, Open Office (2.0.4, on open suse 10.2) has been driving me absolutely bonkers. It infuriatingly insists on moving words and numbers to fit it's idea of how the format should be instead of behaving itself and leaving my text alone unless I ask for changes. For example. I have text like the lines below. 7. This is the first line. - point one - point two Next, I want to add point 8, so I type 8. Text of the next line. Instead of having point 8 start out flush left, it indents it like this 8. Text of the next line. How do I turn off this extremely UNHELPFUL feature? I have tried turning off autoformatting by unchecking the while typing button, and looked through every option I can find but can't find any way to stop this annoying behaviour. Any suggestions? Bob -- Bob Smits [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] clipboard does not clear and repeats a paste Copy time after time
On Saturday 19 May 2007 20:05, Marlene Jones wrote: I have a Mac OS X and OpenOffice.org 2.0 Yesterday I copied a recipe off the Internet and stored it as a document. Today I tried three times to copy and transfer another document as e-mail text. All three times the recipe appeared. Normally the clipboard should have cleared the first time I Pasted the recipe. Well, first, I'm not using a Mac, I'm using Linux, and my expectation would not be to have the clipboard clear after I've used it once. I'd only expect the clipboard to change contents after I've added something new to the clipboard. Second, I've occasionally found material that for one reason or another wouldn't copy to or from the keyboard with the traditional Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V keystrokes. In most of those cases using Edit, Copy and Edit Paste from the program I was in resolved it. YMMV. Bob. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Software question
On Sunday 20 May 2007 13:04, Frank wrote: Dear Sirs, I have nothing for respect for your software. I am a disabled individual, who doesn't have the funds for the MS office thing. You have given me and many others the ability to use a quality product, on a budget which I can actually afford to pay. I spend my days at home mostly, using my computer to keep my sanity. I have also told everybody who I come in contact with, about the (in my opinion ) better version of Office which you have to offer. MOst of them have purchased it, taking my advice, and thanks allot is always in my inbox. The only problem I seem to have, is the transition to a MS similar document. eg. Your version of whatever to Thiers. This could be, because of financial reasons, I am still using the original version which I purchased years ago.. the 1.0.1 . I know that you have superior software out there, due to the fact, the people who I steered your way, own it... I'm still happy with the original version for the most part, however, It would be great if you made an upgrade version for the people who spend most of their money on doctors, meds, transportation, ect.. The real reason I originally wrote this e-mail to you, before I felt a need to pat your developers, ect. on the back, is something that's been bothering me for a while (years) but never took the time to ask, due to application. If I use the spreadsheet, for non-mathematical purposes, such as, lists with columns adjacent laterally from the listed item, If I use a font size, other than default, when I curse down to the next item to be listed, I have to re-set the font size to my own format, again. if there is a way to keep it the same, I haven't found it, and I've done more than some reading on your help section, and unless I just somehow overlooked the damn answer, its not there. There's an awful lot of reading in there, and it may have alluded me, but I don't think so. Could you please set me straight on what to do? Like I said, application wise, I don't need to do this alot, but, I've had now several larger projects, and this fopa, almost doubles my time at the keyboard... and we all know how much fun typing is for a non-typer !!! I would also be very interested in any new software Clone (actually better than OEM) software you might have to offer. Your site doesn't offer allot of insight on product, and I also find it a bit non-user friendly, when it comes to purposefully navigating it...(just my opinion) When I go to a site, I want either A.,the answer right there, or B., a link to the answer to be right there. Once again, I am genuinely thankful, that a division as yourselves, take pride in such a useful product, at a price which peons can actually put it on our computers, and still eat food... You're not the only manufacturer who does this, but by far the most advanced... I'm saving for the newest version, and can't wait to be able to buy it, unless you can fill me in on an upgrade version. Maybe available soon?? again, Thanx an awful lot, I used to have to take a handicap bus to the library, in order to use their computers for the office type software. You opened up some personal freedom to me, and I'll always be thankful for that. I'll keep turning my friends and aquaintences on to your product.One more item, the people who didn't, and/or won't try your product, were in most part, people who received the MS wishy washy versions with thier computer at time of the purchase. My neighbor is one of them, but after a tour of my OO software, he now owns both!!! againFrank. Welcome to Open Office, Frank. Open Office isn't really produced by a company but a collective assortment of developers contributing their time and effort to produce Open Office. You can download, absolutely free, the current version of Open Office from this website... http://www.openoffice.org/ Just go to the download section, click on download 2.2 stable, and then select the correct version for the operating system you are using. Select the Windows version if you're using Windows. Good Luck, Bob -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] I have a question
On Saturday 12 May 2007 15:15, Dave Barton wrote: Original Message From: Mr. Michael L. Dixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat 12 May 2007 14:43:33 EST Does Openoffice offer Speech to Text? If how do I access it. Mr. Michael L. Dixon No, it's core functionality does not include a speech recognition engine. However, some users have reported varying degrees of success using Dragon Naturally Speaking with OOo (OpenOffice.org). Here is one example: http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=45970 You can search for this subject in the archives of this mailing list: http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/SearchList?listName=users Dragon, though, is a Windows based program not accessable to many of us. I don't think it works under Crossover Linux or Crossover Mac, either. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm not one of those who think Bill Gates is the devil. I simply suspect that if Microsoft ever met up with the devil, it wouldn't need an interpreter. -InfoWorld Editor Nicholas Petreley - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] I have a question
On Saturday 12 May 2007 15:15, Dave Barton wrote: Original Message From: Mr. Michael L. Dixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat 12 May 2007 14:43:33 EST Does Openoffice offer Speech to Text? If how do I access it. Mr. Michael L. Dixon No, it's core functionality does not include a speech recognition engine. However, some users have reported varying degrees of success using Dragon Naturally Speaking with OOo (OpenOffice.org). Here is one example: http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=45970 You can search for this subject in the archives of this mailing list: http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/SearchList?listName=users Dragon, though, is a Windows based program not accessable to many of us. I don't think it works under Crossover Linux or Crossover Mac, either. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm not one of those who think Bill Gates is the devil. I simply suspect that if Microsoft ever met up with the devil, it wouldn't need an interpreter. -InfoWorld Editor Nicholas Petreley - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] MS Office 2007 versus Open Office 2.2 shootout. MORE from a MickySoft shill!
On Saturday 28 April 2007 20:21, Michael Adams wrote: These tests come up from time to time and should always be seen in perspective. Both use two different models. Microsoft Office 1. Starts one application at a time 2. Works on Microsoft Windows OpenOffice.org == 1. Loads the core component to run all applications when the first is loaded. Better integration between components is the desired objective. 2. Is multi-platform (Windows, Mac, Linux, and Solaris) which includes loading the java core for some aspects to run. Java itself is multi platform. A better comparison would have been MS Office 2007 vs OO with both running on XP. Who knows what extra overhead is caused by Vista, and who knows what extra overhead is added because M$ is deliberately trying to make OO run slowly. A comparison of resources used when copying and pasting from Excel to Word, versus Calc to Writer on Windows, Mac, and Linux would also be useful. I'm not saying OO.o would be faster than MSOffice but I feel it would be a much closer contest. Oh, does MSOffice 2007 work on WINE on Linux yet? I don't think so, but Office 2003 is gold on Codeweavers (CrossOver Linux). -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] IBM Select Copywrite Principles
On Saturday 28 April 2007 06:42, John W. Kennedy wrote: Richard Detwiler wrote: What do you mean by a11y? a-ccessibilit-y, like 119n for i-nternationializatio-n Hmm that's very intuitive ... not ... :) I don't suppose it is very intuitive, but it /is/ established jargon. With WHOM? Certainly not 99% of the readers of this list. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Linux migration with OOo- question from a rank newbie-LONG
On Saturday 21 April 2007 03:03, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: On Saturday 21 April 2007 00:49, my mailbox was graced by a missive from Adrian Try [EMAIL PROTECTED] who wrote: OpenOffice.org comes standard (preinstalled) on almost every Linux distro, so you won't have any difficulties there. But quite often the vesion packed in the distribution is not the lates, so you are better off not installing this, but downloading and installing the version from OO.org In my view, Ron, that's an extremely good reason NOT to install a version direct from OO unless there is a new feature you absolutely cannot live without. I'd much sooner use the distribution updates when they come (and they're not usually that far behind, excepting Linspire) and also any added functionality added by the distro. As for the general question asked earlier, if I had a lot of Windows users switching to a Linux distribution I'd point them to a KDE desktop over a GNOME desktop - it's far more intuitive to use for someone used to Windows than Gnome, IMHO. I'd favour SuSE 10.2 with KDE for this, but Kubuntu would work, too. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm not one of those who think Bill Gates is the devil. I simply suspect that if Microsoft ever met up with the devil, it wouldn't need an interpreter. -InfoWorld Editor Nicholas Petreley - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] [moderated] YOU MUST GIVE A SUMMARY HEREMMARY HERE
On Saturday 21 April 2007 05:01, Gerard Chrzanowski wrote: Anyone: I purchased OpenOffice 2.0.4 CD, as my WinOffice2000 is incomplete. (Partial Install on machine which I bought used) After arrival, I anxiously tried to install it. It would not install on my W98SE. The following occoured: Insall Software prompt appeared. clicked 'yes' got message:Package requires New Version of Windows Installer...Do you want to install it now? clicked 'yes' got: ! - Device Already Exists! Clicked 'OK' got: X - Setup Unable to find File! Clicked 'OK Install Aborted. Tried 12 Different ways.--Cannot Install. Any ideas, or did I waste the $15.00 on this program, and it needs to be installed in 'File 13'?? Probably, considering you can download it for free. I suggest you just download the current Windows version from the Open Office site, http://download.openoffice.org/2.2.0/index.html . You should be able to download it and install it from there. Not knowing where you got your disk from, it's possible that your disk was corrupted. In addition Windows 98 is no longer supported by Windows for security updates, and is considered obsolete. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Linux migration with OOo- question from a rank newbie-LONG
On Saturday 21 April 2007 13:08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 21 April 2007, Robert Smits wrote: But quite often the vesion packed in the distribution is not the lates, so you are better off not installing this, but downloading and installing the version from OO.org In my view, Ron, that's an extremely good reason NOT to install a version direct from OO unless there is a new feature you absolutely cannot live without. I'd much sooner use the distribution updates when they come (and they're not usually that far behind, excepting Linspire) and also any added functionality added by the distro. The distros don't normally add functionality to OOo they take it away. That's not a problem with every distro, and is certainly not true of SuSe Linux. The version shipped with Fedora has functionality based on questionable patented code stripped. The drag and copy feature in the Official OOo version from the OOo website has the ability to type letters and/or numbers in the cell. Then you can grab the bottom right corner and drag and have the cells copy in increment. Example: January then drag and you get Februray etc. Sunday then drag and you get Monday etc. b001c001v001 then drag you get b001c001v002 etc. Yes, and using my SuSe 10.1 version of Open Office, build 2.0.4.17, the function is there and works perfectly fine. You can't do any of this with the Fedora version. It will pop up a dialog box and you have to use numbers only and numeric formulas only before it will fill the cells. It will not fill a cell if it has even one letter in it. I uninstalled the Fedora version and downloaded and installed the latest from the OOo web site and I have not had any trouble with the install. Since OOo does not do encremental updates, I am not missing anything by not having the distro version installed. Your experience with Fedora not withstanding, some distros at least DO ADD features, not take them away. When you use the version customized for your distro you are also unlikely to have any install problems, which is not always true for versions intended for any distro, although I have never had problems with OO in that regard. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] incomplete printing of label sheet
On Wednesday 04 April 2007 13:23, myron joseph wrote: When using Oo labels templet for Avery labels #5160 . It prints all but the last row of labels. 2/3 of the last row across prints . The bottom address line didn't print.On print page preview it shows all 30 labels.It seems to be lacking a1/2 of printing in the templet print program. I have checked everything else and haven't been able to correct the problem. Do they print starting out at the correct location? On my printer, I always have to adjust down the top margin before the labels line up with the printing, and I use 5160s too. Doesn't matter whether I use plain paper or labels, the top margin is always off with the stock template. Bob -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Address labels
On Sunday 15 April 2007 02:28, John Curd wrote: I have a data base of about 100 names and addresses for which I want mailing labels (21 labels per page). I do File=New=Labels and create a new document for the label type (Avery J8160 - 21 per page) with the required data base address fields. I Insert=Fields=Other=Database=Nest Record then Synchronize Labels. When I View=Data Sources, select the required records (all 100 of them) and merge Data to Fields, only 1 page of labels is produced - i.e. the first 21 address labels. I can't seem to make it produce labels for the entire list. Does anyone know what I am missing? The only thing that comes to mind is that you may not have selected all of the data. I notice when I create labels I need to click on the down arrow and hold it for a while to get down to the last record so I can select all of them. Bob -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm not one of those who think Bill Gates is the devil. I simply suspect that if Microsoft ever met up with the devil, it wouldn't need an interpreter. -InfoWorld Editor Nicholas Petreley - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Why we need something like Outlook
On Thursday 12 April 2007 15:52, PSC Inc wrote: OpenOffice is the first step for me. Once I get comfortable with it, I want to switch our network over to Linux and abandon MS forever, but I don't know enough yet. I don't have a Unix background. I went from CP/M directly to Windows, never detoured into Unix. (Yeah, that was a few years ago g.) I haven't done any programming since 1972 (Basic and extended Basic back then.) I know the feeling. My first computer came with the optional 4 K memory, and it ran CP/M. Getting our Intuit apps (bookkeeping/accounting software) to run on Linux is going to be a problem, since they do not have a version for Linux and have no intention of putting one on the market. Once I get OpenOffice up and running, finding a comparable app to replace Intuit is my next task. It may not be as much as a problem as you think. We've used Quicken on Linux using CrossOver Office (now called CrossOver Linux), the commercial version of Wine as an interim measure to be able to look at old financial data. It'll run Quickbooks as well. Second, there is a double entry accounting program available called GNUCASH that I use to do the books at work. It can, by the way, import Quicken files. There is also an very active Gnucash support email list. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm not one of those who think Bill Gates is the devil. I simply suspect that if Microsoft ever met up with the devil, it wouldn't need an interpreter. -InfoWorld Editor Nicholas Petreley - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Why we need something like Outlook
On Tuesday 10 April 2007 03:11, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: On Monday 09 April 2007 15:21, my mailbox was graced by a missive from Douglas Hinds [EMAIL PROTECTED] who wrote: I hope open office integrates a great PIM with security and an E-Mail client ... then we might have a marketshare contender. Others, who do not need those abilities, whether because they dont use them, or use other progs to do the same thing, will say that adding those has turned OO to bloatware. Even worse, they have chosen to integrate them with Mozilla Thunderbird, instead of just using existing PIMs like Kontact and Evolution. Why not just add the hooks to interoperate with them. Kpilot works fine to sync my PDA, too. Now OO has to reinvent all those wheels. And in the meantime, a feature needed far more is the ability to run MS Access files. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm not one of those who think Bill Gates is the devil. I simply suspect that if Microsoft ever met up with the devil, it wouldn't need an interpreter. -InfoWorld Editor Nicholas Petreley - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Outlook Equivalent
On Saturday 07 April 2007 11:11, Chris Cioffi wrote: On 4/6/07, Robert Smits [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Outlook is a bug-ridden Windows product that introduces more viruses to its users than any other email client. Outlook is a major business application with more people being daily users that just about any other email/PIM product ever developed. The last couple of versions aren't too buggy, just showing their underlying design flaws. I can't argue the security issue. In no small part that's why I'm evaluating OOo and hoping that it comes out with a decent replacement for Office. And my point is that it already is. The only thing I'd like to be able to do with Office that I can't already do is run some MS Access based databases. More PIMs are not needed or even wanted by me, at any rate. Lack of inclusion of a PIM in OO does not mean businesses don't have access to a PIM. If they're using Linux, they already have PIMs. Well, OOo runs on far more than just Linux. And I still haven't seen a huge migration of corporate desktops to Linux. (Note: Now that Vista is out I suspect there might be, but XP still has a few years left in it.) Absolutely. And as has already been pointed out, there are already PIMs available both for Linux and Mac, as well as Windows. Seriously, in a business setting users expect a full featured, integrated PIM like Outlook/Exchange. Yeah, Outlook sucks for email and it's not even close to the best for anything else it does, but it's a single tool and when integrated with Exchange it really does set a very high bar for overall functionality. Not everyone in an organization needs it, but guess what? The folks making the decisions do! And they aren't going to settle for a second rate solution. If they settle for Windows they already have. You haven't described anything in Outlook that Kontact doesn't already deliver. Why waste all that time reinventing the wheel? If all you're offering is another wheel why should I switch? And, of course, the question needs to be asked: if we don't want to waste time re-inventing the wheel why are there multiple PIMs for Linux? Why isn't there just 1 really good one? Why does there have to be only one good choice? What's wrong with having two good PIMs for Linux? PS: Yes, I know that not all midsize+ organizations use Outlook/Exhange and that there are alternatives if you cobble together enough different tools. The fact remains that Outlook/Exchange is currently king of the hill in that space, and calling it just an email system ignores a significant part of it's value proposition. I'm not even sure it's king of the hill in Windows unless you mean more people are deluded enough to use it. Lotus SmartSuite and Lotus Notes provided that functionality to Windows and OS/2 users long ago, and did a better job sooner. I've used both Outlook and Notes. While Notes _may_ have better functionality, it is just about the worst user experience I can possibly imagine. In fact, Lotus Notes offers a compelling case for going back to paper memos sent via interoffice mail. Well, I must confess, that I was never enamoured of Notes, either. Lotus Smartsuite, on the other hand had calendars, email, memos, etc that were every bit as good as anything Office had. In the real world, software success is easily measured by the number of people using the product. Calling people deluded for using a product that meets their needs isn't likely to help your cause. Especially when by any reasonable measure your alternative is little more than a curiosity. If it were only a curiosity, we'd never see the amount of movement we've seen to open source software as we have in the last couple of years. And with Microsoft abandoning the interests of its users to foist DRM laden and slower Vista upon them, I suspect two things will happen. XP users will keep using XP far longer than Microsoft expects, and far more people will switch to open source software in general. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm not one of those who think Bill Gates is the devil. I simply suspect that if Microsoft ever met up with the devil, it wouldn't need an interpreter. -InfoWorld Editor Nicholas Petreley - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Outlook Equivalent
On Friday 06 April 2007 09:43, Chris Cioffi wrote: On 4/6/07, Dan Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This I do not understand the problem. I use Linux with a KDE desktop. Kontact has the things you just mentioned and some other things as well in a PIM package (RSS and weather for two examples). And yes, I also have my own email server that comes as part of the Linux package. Well, since this is a OOo mail list, I'm only concerned with OOo products. My previous post acknowledged that people can cobble together solutions of disparate tools. You're suggesting Kontact + OOo. That's fine. But that really doesn't compare to the single integrated solution of Outlook (Office) + Exchange. (I'm assuming that Kontact can run under Windows, I don't know the product.) Since he said he was running Linux, you should understand that Kontact is a Linux product, and no, it's not available under Windows. That said, I think it's unlikely OO will ever develop email clients. OO is primarily a Linux product although it has been ported to Windows and Macs. It's still largely developed by OO and some of the leading Linux vendors, and they don't need OO to have email, they already have Kontact/Kmail for those using KDE desktops and Evolution for those using Gnome desktops. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm not one of those who think Bill Gates is the devil. I simply suspect that if Microsoft ever met up with the devil, it wouldn't need an interpreter. -InfoWorld Editor Nicholas Petreley - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Outlook Equivalent
On Friday 06 April 2007 08:34, Chris Cioffi wrote: Outlook is far more than just email. The Outlook/Exchange combination is something I haven't seen really replicated yet. The combination of Email, Calendar, Todo and Journal, even if individually lacking, combine into a very powerful tool. Especially the ability to *easily* schedule meeting and assign tasks. Outlook is a bug-ridden Windows product that introduces more viruses to its users than any other email client. So, given that Thunderbird is an inferior tool for serious business why would you promote it? And, given the glaring omission of a PIM in OOo right now, why should a business choose it? Lack of inclusion of a PIM in OO does not mean businesses don't have access to a PIM. If they're using Linux, they already have PIMs. Seriously, in a business setting users expect a full featured, integrated PIM like Outlook/Exchange. Yeah, Outlook sucks for email and it's not even close to the best for anything else it does, but it's a single tool and when integrated with Exchange it really does set a very high bar for overall functionality. Not everyone in an organization needs it, but guess what? The folks making the decisions do! And they aren't going to settle for a second rate solution. If they settle for Windows they already have. You haven't described anything in Outlook that Kontact doesn't already deliver. Why waste all that time reinventing the wheel? PS: Yes, I know that not all midsize+ organizations use Outlook/Exhange and that there are alternatives if you cobble together enough different tools. The fact remains that Outlook/Exchange is currently king of the hill in that space, and calling it just an email system ignores a significant part of it's value proposition. I'm not even sure it's king of the hill in Windows unless you mean more people are deluded enough to use it. Lotus SmartSuite and Lotus Notes provided that functionality to Windows and OS/2 users long ago, and did a better job sooner. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm not one of those who think Bill Gates is the devil. I simply suspect that if Microsoft ever met up with the devil, it wouldn't need an interpreter. -InfoWorld Editor Nicholas Petreley - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Menu change...
On Saturday 17 March 2007 20:38, Joseph Amato, Jr. wrote: I am using version 2.1of OpenOffice.org. My concern is that there is no way to change the actual view of openoffice. Is there anyway to make openoffice look more like microsoft office 2003 or 2007? GawdI hope NOT! -- Bob Smits [EMAIL PROTECTED] In most countries selling harmful things like drugs is punishable. Then how come people can sell Microsoft software and go unpunished? --Hasse Skrifvars - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] impress 2.0 prsentations created can not be read and shown by powerpoint
On Saturday 17 March 2007 12:38, Albert Pye wrote: My open office program is great! However, although I can use it to look at power point presentations, power point can not open or read impresses presentations. So, impress will open its own files and powerpoint files, but powerpoint will not open impress files. I have tried saving the impress in various forms. I have tried opening it in powerpoint in various ways. Since most projection systems at universities etc. use powerpoint, it is important to create a file that powerpoint can read. Do you have a solution? If so, please explain. Albert There are a number of possible solutions, keeping mind that the usual way one projects a presentation is to use a laptop with the video going to the projector. 1. The laptop doesn't care whether it has Powerpoint AND Impress installed on the same machine, and then it will read both formats. 2. Get the university to replace Powerpoint with Impress, as it can read both formats, and the issue goes away. 3. Get Microsoft to properly recognise Open Office specifications, since it is Microsoft software that is deficient. I suspect you'd rather have those working on Open Office drop working on some new feature in order to get Open Office Impress to be able to save in Powerpoint format. It's time for Microsoft to do some work. OTOH, you could also use something like the conversion offered at http://cdsconv.cern.ch/ to convert them. -- Bob Smits [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Unverified Publisher
On Tuesday 13 March 2007 06:16, Veronica Williams wrote: I am downloading newset version of Open office for the first time. I am using windows xp. I received a security pop up box that say, Are you sure you ant to run this program. The publisher could not be verified. Is this ok to run? Take care...Veronica Yes, Veronica, it's OK to run. The message is just FUD from Microsoft because you're not running something you've had to pay them for. -- Bob Smits [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Lotus Word Pro documents
On Tuesday 13 March 2007 13:48, Dr. med. John van Limburg Stirum wrote: I am using version 2.1 of OpenOffice.org. My problem is: Can you also open Lotus Word Pro documents? Thank you John van Limburg Stirum John, you don't say what operating system you're using, so this is more difficult to answer. If you are running Windows, your best bet if you have a lot of files to convert is to install a 9.x version of WordPro and do the batch conversion process. I think the old versions of StarOffice had the Mastersoft AmiPro filter (AmiPro is where WordPro came from). Otherwise, you can go to http://www.s2services.com/lwp-viewers.htm which is the Lotus website for downloading Key Viewer (runs in Windoze) to view WordPro file contents and copy them from the clipboard. You can open with Lotus KeyView, print to Adobe PDF (you have to have an Adobe PDF Printer), open the PDF with Adobe, save as a Microsoft Word (.dot) file, and it will keep all formatting. Batch converter for WordPro 9.x If you have SmartSuite 9.x, you can use the Batch Converter utility for Word Pro to quickly process your files. This is a free download. To use the batch converter to convert between Lotus WordPro and any other format, such as RTF, Word Perfect, and of course, WordStar, for which you have the conversion filters installed: * Place the downloaded file into any folder and open it in WordPro. * A new menu option will be added to the File menu, and a set of instructions will be displayed. * Select the option, Batch File Converter... to start. The converter will convert files in sub-folders and can output to different folders. * Download version 1.23 of the Lotus WordPro Batch Converter from this site. http://www.wordstar.org/wordstar/downloads/BatchConverter.lwp Bob. -- Bob Smits [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] OpenOffice for OS/2
On Monday 19 February 2007 06:54, James Mckenzie wrote: OS/2 is still technically superior to any version of Windows (there is a batch file that will bring XP and even Server 2003 to its knees as it takes up all of the CPU cycles) in my humble opinion. However, it runs on almost all home PCs here in the United States and many outside of the U.S. Thus all new software is going to be developed for this platform outside of a few 'special' programs which are developed for the Mac. OS/2 still exists. I forget the name it is going by these days and most, if not all bank branches use this. It is sort of like the death of COBOL. It is still alive and kicking. BTW, I was one of the founding members of TeamOS/2 and would still be using it today if it were not for a change of heart of IBM in 1999. At that point OS/2 was up to version 4.0, which I helped perform QA on. Same here. The OS/2 Hobbit was in my sigline for years. (I thought something a little gentler than all those Blue Ninjas was wanted.) It took MS until XP for Windows even to approximate OS/2's quality. It's currently called Ecomstation. I can't remember what version it is now, probably 1.3 or so, and Serenity Systems has tried very hard to keep it going. I left for Linux when I realized most of the programs being ported for OS/2 came from Linux in the first place. And if you think it's hard to find Linux drivers, wait until you look for OS/2 ones. I still have a hard time forgiving IBM for their abandonment of a system much better than Windows. -- Bob Smits [EMAIL PROTECTED] In most countries selling harmful things like drugs is punishable. Then how come people can sell Microsoft software and go unpunished? --Hasse Skrifvars - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Can print landscape from Calc
On Thursday 15 February 2007 10:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I purchased a cd over e-bay Open Office Plus (I think). When I create a wide spread sheet, even though I set it up to print lanscape, it always prints letter style. Any suggestions. Thanks, Gary Foster Do a print preview, go to page, and see what the document is set for, as well as checking print properties. -- Bob Smits Ph 250-245-2553 Fax 250-245-5531 E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Re: Job search resume
On Saturday 03 February 2007 17:31, Pete Holsberg wrote: Lighten up; it's almost time for the Super Bowl! :-) Note - at the risk of further extending this now off topic discussion, for those who are on this list but not residing in North America, here's Bob's definition of Super Bowl Super Bowl – noun that used to refer to the championship game of the “professional players” of the so-called National Football League (so-called because the game does not resemble football as it is known the world over except in North America. In North America, it is a team game with 11 vastly overpaid, chemically enhanced players on both sides, similar to rugby but where forward passing is allowed and much emphasis is on physical tackling. It is now an excuse for American couch potatoes to consume more snack food than on any other day, (including 4,000 tons of tortilla chips, 4,000 tons of popcorn and 14,000 tons of potato chips, more than double the average on any other day), and it's main purpose is sell television advertising. During Super Bowl Sunday 2006, viewers ate 49.5 million pounds of avocados, enough to cover Ford Field end zone to end zone in more than 11.8 feet of guacamole. Flame retardant pants ON :-) :-) -- Bob Smits [EMAIL PROTECTED] In most countries selling harmful things like drugs is punishable. Then how come people can sell Microsoft software and go unpunished? --Hasse Skrifvars - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Why do some users get CC:ed (or The best way to answer questions on this list)
On Saturday 27 January 2007 04:57, CPHennessy wrote: Hi all, I'd like to remind everyone of a few simple points which may help new users get the most out of our answers: 1) We should CC: the posters of messages that contain a Delivered-to: moderator header since they are from users who are not subscribed and thus they would otherwise not see our responses. Frequently these emails also have [moderated] in their subject line. Note 1 : So how do I know if someone is not subscribed ? That is easy : there is a field in every email on this list called Delivered-to. For subscribed users it will show your email address. For unsubscribed users, there will be two Delievered-to fields, the one as described above, and a second one with the value moderator. Any email delivered to the moderator and then to the list, means that the email was from an unsubscribed user and therefore you should try to CC: that user. Many people use their email tool to filter the users@ emails so that those with the field Delivered-to with a value of moderator get flagged to indicate that they should be treated specially. The practical difficulty I see with this helpful advice is that most of us will only see from, to, subject and date fields in any email unless we turn on more verbose settings. If it were only one extra line that wouldn't be a problem but I sure don't want to look at all the headers every time I read a message. Bob -- Bob Smits [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] problem with saving document in open office .org
On Wednesday 24 January 2007 10:23, annie gonzalez wrote: please contact me I tried to save a file with open office.org and I accidently saved all of my documents in some other format and it changed all of my documents into hyroglifics. I can't read any of my documents. I have used open office.org for 4 years and this has never ever happen. call me at 956 621 0697 or tell me how to call you. Annie Gonzalez Sorry you're having trouble, Annie, but you're not likely to receive phone calls. My guess is that you're in North America, but don't know where, and this email list is populated by volunteers who also use Open Office, but are unlikely to volunteer to make long distance phone calls. You likely saved the document in some other format. Make a copy of the document you own. Call it test or whatever. Make a list of the kind of file extensions you are able to save files as in Open Office. The file extension is the three letters after the dot in the file name to tell Open Office what type of file it is. (If you go to file, save as, and then the dropdown box, you will see a whole list of possible extensions, like.doc, .odt, .sxw, etc. Try renaming your test file as test.extension (replace the word extension with one of the three letter ones you found above), so that your file now reads, for example test.doc. Try to open the file with Open Office. If it doesn't work, try using a different extension. I think, if you work your way through the list of possible extensions, you should find the one that will let you read the file. Then save it as an open document file (.odt) and you're back in business. Hope this helps! Bob. -- Bob Smits [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Convert Wordstar 4 Format to Open Office
On Monday 22 January 2007 08:52, Sam Sloan wrote: I am using Open Office 2.1 I have some old documents in Wordstar Version 4. How can I convert these Wordstar documenmts to OpenOffice? Sam, have a look at the following site: http://www.wordstar.org/wordstar/pages/convert_faq.htm#FAQ It lists a bunch of different ways to convert WS files. Bob -- Bob Smits [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Lotus WordPro docs
On Wednesday 10 January 2007 23:38, Mathias Bauer wrote: Howard Coles Jr. wrote: I see a filter in my OpenOffice.org writer that shows that I can open WordPro Docs (from Lotus Smartsuite). However, when I open a doc it just comes up a blank page. I'm running 2.0.4 (because Kubuntu doesn't have packages for 2.1 and I'm not into reverse engineering any rpms). I did install 2.1 on a Windoze box, but I didn't see any filters for opening WordPro files. OOo officially doesn't contain such a filter. If you found one on any platform it must have been added by the distributor. There is an experimental version of a simple lwp filter that tries to just get the text out of lwp documents but until now the quality of it wasn't good enough to achieve even this in a reliable manner. Maybe someone added this filter (that exists as a patch in Issue Tracker) to your distro. I know some people who love to add unfinished work to their official builds and let users test it. They call this incremental development. :-) The question is, is this, or ever was this, a real ability of OpenOffice.org? If so, does anyone have any hints about making it work? If you happened to use the mentioned filter prototype the only way would be to ask the developer(s) how things are going. I don't remember the issue number but you can search for a patch issue in the word processor component assigned to flr. Ciao, Mathias Your best bet if you have a lot of files to convert is to install a 9.x version of WordPro and do the batch conversion process. I think the old versions of StarOffice had the Mastersoft AmiPro filter (AmiPro is where WordPro came from). Otherwise, you can go to http://www.s2services.com/lwp-viewers.htm which is the Lotus website for downloading Key Viewer (runs in Windoze) to view WordPro file contents and copy them from the clipboard. You can open with Lotus KeyView, print to Adobe PDF (you have to have an Adobe PDF Printer), open the PDF with Adobe, save as a Microsoft Word (.dot) file, and it will keep all formatting. Batch converter for WordPro 9.x If you have SmartSuite 9.x, you can use the Batch Converter utility for Word Pro to quickly process your files. This is a free download. To use the batch converter to convert between Lotus WordPro and any other format, such as RTF, Word Perfect, and of course, WordStar, for which you have the conversion filters installed: * Place the downloaded file into any folder and open it in WordPro. * A new menu option will be added to the File menu, and a set of instructions will be displayed. * Select the option, Batch File Converter... to start. The converter will convert files in sub-folders and can output to different folders. * Download version 1.23 of the Lotus WordPro Batch Converter from this site. http://www.wordstar.org/wordstar/downloads/BatchConverter.lwp Bob. -- Bob Smits [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Forced Registration For This List (was Re: [users] Return receipts)
On Saturday 06 January 2007 03:54, Arnold Huzen wrote: For the time being it is 3 to 1 in favour for another setup in this discussion. Well, here's a vote for retaining mailing lists. I detest web based forums, all with their own format, and usually unbearably slow. The thing we need to sort out is how do we best serve the users of OpenOffice. Generally people do not read FAQ's, do not read manuals. So by forcing them to subscribe to a mailinglist with up to hundreds of unwanted e-mails a day does not bring them the support they want. It's very easy to filter all my Open Office Emails into a single folder, and then follow the threads I want to look at. The only improvement I'd see is to have three mailing lists one for Linux, one for Mac and one for Windows, but I'm perfectly OK with just one. The mailinglist is a good thing to bring all the questions to the users that committed themselves voluntarily to answering questions of others, but is not good for people that just want an answer to their question. So we add a footer to the mailing list with the FAQ URL, so people are reminded that it's there. That is the only reason why we should be looking for something more useful than the mailinglist. It's the customer satisfaction that we must search for in the first place. If you want to add some web based information, go ahead. Please do not consider at all the idea of getting rid of the mailing list. And, for Pete's sake, we are NOT customers. We're users of a program that none of us have paid for, that many of us like a good deal, and want to help others make it better, or make it easier to use. -- Bob Smits [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Forced Registration For This List (was Re: [users] Return receipts)
On Saturday 06 January 2007 16:34, Harold Fuchs wrote: Top Post I'm only voting for a web forum if registration is forced. The mailing list as it is now is fine by me. In fact I prefer it to web forums. But in my opinion forced registration and, more particularly, the consequent and entirely unexpected deluge of garbage would be a major turn off for new users and that instantly tips the balance for me. You could reduce it by threefold if we separated out the Mac and Windows users from the rest of us and had one list for each subset. Don't forget too that many OO users are still on slow dial-up lines using pay as you go tariffs so suddenly getting hundreds of irrelevant e-mails a day, some with attachments, is not going to be well regarded from a cost or time point of view. Which is why, while I prefer Email lists, I'd prefer also not to read more questions from Mac users. Not that they aren't nice people, but their problems mostly aren't very relevant to me. I really don't think we ought to be inflicting that kind of punishment on some poor soul even if they couldn't be bothered to read the FAQs. Like not top posting? -- Bob Smits [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Forced Registration For This List (was Re: [users] Return receipts)
On Saturday 06 January 2007 16:34, Harold Fuchs wrote: Don't forget too that many OO users are still on slow dial-up lines using pay as you go tariffs so suddenly getting hundreds of irrelevant e-mails a day, some with attachments, is not going to be well regarded from a cost or time point of view. I really don't think we ought to be inflicting that kind of punishment on some poor soul even if they couldn't be bothered to read the FAQs. Any decent listserve software can automatically refuse to forward attachments. None of the five I administer do so. -- Bob Smits [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] unistall OpenOffice.org
On Thursday 30 November 2006 02:19, NEWTON michel wrote: From: Dan Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: users@openoffice.org OpenOffice.org (OOo) can be uninstalled the same way any other program is: use the Add/Remove Program in the Control Panel. There is one additional thing that has to be done. When OOo is installed, it creates an icon in the system tray to the left of the clock. You must right click this icon and close it before you can uninstall OOo. If you used Administrative rights to install OOo, you will also have to use them when you uninstall OOo. If you desire, there is a French version of the OOo web site: http://fr.openoffice.org. Search for the setup guide which will give you written directions as to how to uninstall OOo. Dan THANK YOU VERY MUCH INDEED FOR YOUR HELP. I DID NOT DARE TO DO REMOVE BECAUSE OPEN OFFICE LOOKS TO ME AS COMPLICATED AS AN OPERATING SYSTEM GOD BLESS André MICHEL Clare NEWTON 381 Grande Charrière 69250 MONTANAY France tél. + 33 (0) 4 78 98 21 02 To: users@openoffice.org CC: NEWTON michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [users] unistall OpenOffice.org Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 11:55:45 -0600 On Wednesday 29 November 2006 06:04 am, NEWTON michel wrote: I have downloaded openoffice.org on top of windows XP. Could you please give me guidelines for UNINSTALL openoffice.org if ther exists such a program. Please put the word openoffice in the subject of your answerinf e-mail. Thank you for your attention André MICHEL Clare NEWTON _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Robert Smits, Ladysmith BC Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] [moderated]
On Tuesday 28 November 2006 08:44, Adolf Gigler wrote: I am missing an importfilter to open MS Publisher files (.pub) in open office 2.0. Is such an filter available? Not to my knowledge. You can, however, export Publisher files in a variety of formats including: Postscript (.ps), Plain Text (.txt), Rich Text Format (.rtf), Word 6 (.doc), Word97-2000 (.doc), Word for Macintosh (.mcw), Works 4.0 and Wordperfect. Open Office can certainly open a number of these formats. Of course, this doesn't help if you don't have Publisher. (And keep in mind that not all versions of Publisher are the same. My printer had some difficulty with a Publisher 2000 document I sent him and he was using Publisher 2003) In addition, Publisher will run under Crossover Office on Linux, if that's of use to you. Bob. Adolf Gigler - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Robert Smits, Ladysmith BC Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] [moderated] Publisher/pdf conversion
On Wednesday 29 November 2006 04:19, Rusty Adams wrote: I want to convert a publisher 2002 file to a pdf file - can Open Officer help with this please? Rusty No, it can't. But it is easy to do with something like pdf995 in Windows, which lets you open the file in publisher, then print to a pdf file. Open Office can't open MS Publisher files. -- Robert Smits, Ladysmith BC Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] [moderated]
On Tuesday 28 November 2006 08:44, Adolf Gigler wrote: I am missing an importfilter to open MS Publisher files (.pub) in open office 2.0. Is such an filter available? Not to my knowledge. You can, however, export Publisher files in a variety of formats including: Postscript (.ps), Plain Text (.txt), Rich Text Format (.rtf), Word 6 (.doc), Word97-2000 (.doc), Word for Macintosh (.mcw), Works 4.0 and Wordperfect. Open Office can certainly open a number of these formats. Of course, this doesn't help if you don't have Publisher. (And keep in mind that not all versions of Publisher are the same. My printer had some difficulty with a Publisher 2000 document I sent him and he was using Publisher 2003) In addition, Publisher will run under Crossover Office on Linux, if that's of use to you. Bob. Adolf Gigler - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Robert Smits, Ladysmith BC Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Re: Dropped caps
On Wednesday 01 November 2006 00:31, Harold Fuchs wrote: On Friday, October 27, 2006 4:54 PM [GMT+1=CET], Matt Needles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Not the same thing, Harold. We're talking about an Initial capital letter that is much larger than the rest of the line, and drops below it, as in some fancy, older, decorated manuscripts. I tried it as well with my Suse Linux 10.1 install of OO. I tried first with a single line, typing the word Hello. Nothing happened at all when I tried to set the drop cap mode. I skipped a couple of lines and typed in a whole sentence that wrapped around the end of the line, and tried it again. Now it worked. Still wouldn't do it with the top line, however. I hope this behaviour is a clue. Bob. -- Robert Smits, Ladysmith BC Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Send as Email not working in 2.04
On Tuesday 24 October 2006 13:09, John Boyle wrote: To Users and Pete Holsberg: Why not use Mozilla or its derivatives in Linux? IE and Outlook won't work in Linux, and you can use what you prefer in Windows. :-) Well, if you really wanted to use them in Linux you could, with CrossOver Office. The question would be why you'd want to use them given the superiority of both Kmail and either Konqueror or Firefox. In fact why would anyone want to use IE or Outlook in Windows either? -- Robert Smits, Ladysmith BC Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Printing Mail Labels
On Saturday 16 September 2006 06:58, Thomas Tallant wrote: I'm trying to print mailing labels, the Avery type (in this case, 5160). Everything seems to be set up correctly, and the print preview shows where the address should print, but the address always prints on the wrong part of the page: It's always indented about 2 inches, eventhough the indent is set at 0.19 inch. I'm using an HP Laserjet 1012. All other printing I do in OpenOffice 2.0 seems to work fine. It's just when I try to print mailing labels that printing doesn't work. I have exactly the same symptom here. My work around is to edit the dimensions for the label and add distance between the left margin of the sheet and the left side of the first label. My printer is an HP3300, and i use O.O. 2.0 under SuSE 10.1. Bob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[users] Re: Lotus-Smartsuite-Files
Peter Krueger wrote: Hello, I'm using Open Office Org 2.0 with Windows and Linux. Before I used Lotus Smartsuite with Windows. Can you tell me if there exists any import filters for importing Lotus-1-2-3, Lotus-Freelance and Lotus-Wordpro files into Open Office Org. If there exists any would you please tell me where I can find them. Thank You. I, too have a lot of old Word Pro filesI used Lotus Smartsuite Millenium in Win XP and OS/2 versions until several months ago. If you look at this site, http://www.wordstar.org/wordstar/pages/convert_faq.htm There are filters listed for all kinds of word processors. I understand Lotus Smartsuite 9.XXX had a batch conversion filter built in, but I never have tried it yet. If you have any luck, let us know. Bob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
