Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bored

[Irina]

i read every email from the videoblogging list
:)

On Nov 13, 2007 8:10 PM, Brook Hinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   Every forum (save one very large one) I've participated in that did
> not include an option to access and interact via email has dwindled
> away to irrelevance over a short period of time, regardless of member
> enthusiasm. Email is essential for discussion lists and forums, even
> if some prefer going directly to a forum interface. Yahoo, for all its
> quirks, at least offers a dual system.
>
> Brook
>
> ___
> Brook Hinton
> film/video/audio art
> www.brookhinton.com
> studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab
>  
>



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[videoblogging] Need to decide on a format

[Benjamin Green]

Hi, My name is Ben, I'm from Sydney Australia and I love animating.
I'm currently working on an animated podcast and I would really
appreciate your opinion on which formats I should provide.

Right now I'm thinking of rendering out a 640x360 version and encoding
it as a H264/AAC MP4, then uploading it to Blip.tv where their system
will take care of transcoding it to FLV and an iPod compatible M4V,
that gets the episode online relatively quickly and with little
trouble.

Thing is I also want to offer proper HD as an option so after that
I'll render out a 1920x1080 version, then scale a copy to 1280x720
before encoding them both to H264/AAC MP4 again and adding them as
additional HDTV files on Blip.tv.

As you've already noticed I'm planning to stick to widescreen formats,
fact is designing for both 4:3 and 16:9 would be a bit of a pain and
I'd rather have video's that'll play nice with future video standards
that are already being adopted rather than what's currently common.

What do you reckon?
I am really looking forward to your responses and participating with
the community,
Thanks!

[videoblogging] Ning Or Kickapps

[Irene Duma]

Hi Eric and Jason

Maybe I missed this, but just wondering why you chose Ning. Were you looking
at any of the other social apps too? How¹s you come to your  decisions.

Thanks.


Irene Duma
Strange Duck Media
...a good egg

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
T 416-769-1879 C 416-535-0652
web design and creative marketing
http://www.bittertonic.com



  


On 11/13/07 4:22 PM, "eric gunnar rochow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  
>  
>  
> 
> it looks like people aren't into the idea of a forum type group, but
> i've been working on a Ning.com site for Gardenfork and
> RealWorldGreen and it can send emails when new items are posted, and
> has some integration with Facebook and Twitter. and you can post videos.
> 
> eric. .
>  
> 




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[videoblogging] looking for speakers - bloggers event in SF south bay

[JD Lasica]

Looking for videobloggers: The Community Media Center is planning a
panel on new media with a focus on videobloggers or bloggers who
incorporate videos into their text blogs. Details:

Where: SF Peninsula, Palo Alto, Menlo Park, Silicon Valley area

When: Dec. 10

I spoke there a few months back with Dan Gillmor (The Media Center's a
nonprofit) and it was a good time. If you haven't done a panel before,
no sweat, they're happy with anyone who can exchange tips on the
subject of video and blogging.

Send an email to exec director Elliot Margolies .

jd lasica
ourmedia.org

Re: [videoblogging] Coffee With Ian

[Jill H]

Or Irina! I will be there.. especially to meet you!

Jill

On 11/14/07, Irina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> hi ian
>  sounds fun!
>  i live in sf but will be in nyc from about 12/8-12/13
>  i'll be at http://www.webvideosummit.com/index.php
>  who else from this group will be at the summit?
>  lets do coffee
>
>  see u soon! irina
>  http://geekentertainment.tv
>  http://youarethewinner.org
>
>  On Nov 13, 2007 5:19 PM, Ian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  > Hi all,
>  >
>  > I have a networking site called Coffee With Ian, which you can find at
>  > http://www.coffeewithian.com. I invite you all to network with me
>  > over a coffee if you're ever in New York and have the time.
>  >
>  > I have been attracting some interesting people to my coffee meetups,
>  > and want to add a videoblog element to it. Anyone interested in
>  > helping out?
>  >
>  > --Ian
>  >
>  >
>  >
>
>  --
>  http://geekentertainment.tv
>
>  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>  

Re: [videoblogging] Coffee With Ian

[Irina]

hi ian
sounds fun!
i live in sf but will be in nyc from about 12/8-12/13
i'll be at http://www.webvideosummit.com/index.php
who else from this group will be at the summit?
lets do coffee

see u soon! irina
http://geekentertainment.tv
http://youarethewinner.org

On Nov 13, 2007 5:19 PM, Ian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   Hi all,
>
> I have a networking site called Coffee With Ian, which you can find at
> http://www.coffeewithian.com. I invite you all to network with me
> over a coffee if you're ever in New York and have the time.
>
> I have been attracting some interesting people to my coffee meetups,
> and want to add a videoblog element to it. Anyone interested in
> helping out?
>
> --Ian
>
>  
>



-- 
http://geekentertainment.tv


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bored

[Brook Hinton]

Every forum (save one very large one) I've participated in that did
not include an option to access and interact via email has dwindled
away to irrelevance over a short period of time, regardless of member
enthusiasm. Email is essential for discussion lists and forums, even
if some prefer going directly to a forum interface. Yahoo, for all its
quirks, at least offers a dual system.

Brook

___
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film/video/audio art
www.brookhinton.com
studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab

Re: [videoblogging] ripping a small portion of a DVD?

[Brook Hinton]

If it's not copy protected I believe mpeg streamclip (it's free -
www.squared5.com, and you have to use the "www") will let you set an
in and and out point in a VOB file and export to format of choice (as
long as you have Compressor or the Quicktime mpeg2 component).

Brook

___
Brook Hinton
film/video/audio art
www.brookhinton.com
studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab

[videoblogging] WGA Strike

[nmcdevo]

This video was posted on the LA Producer list about the strike - it's
all here in tell-tale
talkin' by taped titans.. ..

 = = ===
So, why are screenwriters so angry and picketing in Hollywood? Watch
this video and you'll see.

http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=8a37uqd5vTw

[videoblogging] Re: Question about Other Video posting Sites

[Gena]

Hi Jill, Welcome!

I'm not sure if you have done this or not but check out Blip.tv Terms
of Service http://blip.tv/tos/ way down toward the bottom.

You can't show naked people but you can talk about them. 

A week or two back folks responded to a person who wanted a safe Adult
level site for web hosting.  If you follow this thread you can pick up
on other options:

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/message/66114

Hope this helps,

Gena
http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Jill H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hey Everyone,
> My name is Jill.  I am on youtube, my link is
> http://www.youtube.com/xgobobeanx
> 
> i recently started vloging for a company that deals with nudity.  I
started
> a new channel on youtube called http://www.youtube.com/icnakedpeople
> 
> Because I am somewhat popular on my xgobobeanx channel, I have
haters and
> stalkers.  These two groups have followed me over to my icnakedpeople
> channel and have been trying to get it shut down for inappropriate
content.
>  I am not showing nudity, but it is more of a silly talk show about
stories
> regarding nudity- nude beach experiences, new parties... etc.  If
you have 5
> free mins, please jump over to the channel and take a look.  ( i
hope none
> of my stalkers on this email list-  if anyone wants to trade scary
stalker
> stories i am all ears)
> 
> Anyhow-  are there any other video posting sites that would except
this talk
> show?  I tried contacting blip, but have not heard back from them.
> 
> I am not looking to get a million views, i am just looking to not
have my
> channel banned, or flagged, or taken down.
> 
> Any suggestions... please please please.. i am so desperate.
> 
> Not sure if anyone has every experienced haters, stalkers, and obsessed
> people, but it hurts and you feel out of control, because nothing can be
> done.
> 
> Thank you for listening,
> Jill
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[videoblogging] Re: Bored

[Bill Cammack]

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kenya Allmond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Ive never used email to read or write to this group. The yahoo web
>  interface is not as good 
> > as a forum, but its gradually moved closer, eg you can view
messages by
>  thread.
> >
> >  http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/messages
> 
> Also, for people who don't want to receive emails, there is an
option to only read messages on the web.  From the group page
(http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/) choose "Edit
Membership".  There are several lists/groups that I have set up that way.

That's how I read the group, too.  Web-only / Unthreaded.

The way the mac touchpad works, it's MUUUCH faster for me to have one
page with all of the posts lined up in chronological order.  When I
come to the "messages" page, I scroll down until I hit a
different-colored link, indicating I've been to that one already, then
I scroll back up and use the touchpad to either click in to a post,
alt-click to go back or alt-click to open a link in another tab.  If I
haven't seen any of the posts on the first page, it's one click on the
touchpad to see the next page.

Also, viewing in-browser is a lot faster for me because with the mail
app, I'd have to scroll to the top half of the page, select an email,
then scroll back to the bottom half to begin scrolling the actual post.

Same thing with resizing.  Once I resize the text in-browser,
everything I click in to is automatically the same size.

I don't have to thread, because when I see a title I don't care about,
I visually parse the list as I'm scrolling and pass all the posts with
the same length title.

--
Bill Cammack
http://CammackMediaGroup.com


> . . .
> Kenya Allmond
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://kenya.allmond.us
> http://kenya.allmond.us/vlog
> VM/F 202-478-0490
> 
> To thine own self be true.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  

> Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. 
> Make Yahoo! your homepage.
> http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs 
> 
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>

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bored

[Kenya Allmond]

> Ive never used email to read or write to this group. The yahoo web
 interface is not as good 
> as a forum, but its gradually moved closer, eg you can view messages by
 thread.
>
>  http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/messages

Also, for people who don't want to receive emails, there is an option to only 
read messages on the web.  From the group page 
(http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/) choose "Edit Membership".  
There are several lists/groups that I have set up that way.

. . .
Kenya Allmond
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://kenya.allmond.us
http://kenya.allmond.us/vlog
VM/F 202-478-0490

To thine own self be true.





  

Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. 
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[videoblogging] Re: Bored

[missbhavens1969]

Little bekahvoice piping in to add her two-cents. I only ever really
post here in moments such as these. 

These "interesting" discussions (I use annoying airquotes because not
all of them actually ARE interesting...not to me, anyway)that devolve
into defensive weirdness and name-calling and mudslinging and
text-just-sometimes-doesn't-work-misunderstandings and personal
bitchsessions do not bother me. They aren't as entertaining to me as
they used to be because I'm trying SO incredibly hard to decrease the
snark in my life (my own snark that is. I'm trying to get more sincere
as I age so I don't end up crabby and bitter and more wrinkly).
However, these out-of-control threads serve to remind me that everyone
on this list is human. Human beings saddled with all the faults and
foibles that go with not being a chimp. Go to the zoo and check it
out. Chimps fling poo. Humans vent on internet message boards.

That's why you'll never see (hear/read) me saying "take it offlist" or
"go blog it" or "this has nothing to do with videoblogging". Sure, it
has something to do with videoblogging. Not the way *I* videoblog,
because in this case I couldn't give a shit about getting 250K viewers
fast. If I did, I'd have gone topless long ago. But it matters to some
videobloggers whose motives differ from mine. Doesn't make my
motivations any purer or better or more sincere. It just is.  The fact
that the 250KMahalo thread turned into something wholly else only says
one thing to me: people care about videoblogging (or their Video
Product) so much that they are willing to make total asses of
themselves in front of a great deal of people. They are willing to
jump clear over the generally accepted social fences that hem them in
and go. To. Town.

To this I say "go for it, kids!". Human beings, remember? That's what
we do. We get mad and defensive. Then we take it to the keyboard.

That being said, let's revisit my prior point about motivations and
all that. I'm not in this because I want to make a career out of it. I
could mudsling and name-call 'till I'm blue and I'd have literally
nothing to lose. Someone on this thread mentioned that all this
silliness was sort of neat and New Media Cool: you won't see Rupert
Murdoch having open discussions like this in a public forum (or
non-forum, in our case). Well guess what? That's because it's wildly
fucking unprofessional! See, I get to swear like that because I have
nothing to lose! I'm NOT a professional! Get it?

If y'all want to be the kings of New Media (or even the jesters) and
usher in a New Age y'all should reflect a little on your behaviour. I
mean, is this really how people want to conduct themselves at the dawn
of The Big Paradigm Shift? Jesus, I hope not.

Transparency is nice, and all, but there's something to be said for
rising above it all and being coolly courteous. 

Don't fling poo like chimps. 

Or do (do that doo-doo that you do so well). Create a spectacle. Make
scandal. It's your name on the line, not mine. Knock yourself out.

Bekah
--
http://www.missbhavens.com






--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Rupert Howe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Yeah, Jay, discussions are one thing, but I'm bored of watching
> interesting discussions turn into personal slanging matches.
> 
> It poisons threads and kills discussion.
> 
> I know some of us seem to like it, and some of us just can't stop
> watching.  There's a familiar discussion on Twitter - people asking
> themselves why they still subscribe to this list - "it's like a car
> wreck".  That saddens me.
> 
> We all get heated about issues - fine - but if people have got
> something negative to say about another person, about their
> motivations or anything that's likely to lead to a personal slanging
> match, perhaps they could show us the courtesy of having their open
> and frank discussion on a blog and linking to it here.  
> 
> Maybe that will make this list more 'boring' - but personally, I'm
> much more bored of watching people going to the toilet on each other
> when I want to talk about videoblogging.
> 
> Yours rather po-facedly,
> 
> Rupert
> http://twittervlog.tv/
> http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/
>

[videoblogging] Re: Bored

[Adrian Miles]

around the 13/11/07 David Howell mentioned about [videoblogging] Re: 
Bored that:
>Rather sad when a group that tries to push new media subscribes and 
>restricts itself to old
>technology like email.

well, it is effective :-) (i like email, it comes to me, i can do it 
offline, i can easily save what i want, I can reply to list or 
offlist, and you cna thread it if you need to).

>
>If this was a forum, there would be post and threads. If there were 
>personal attacks and
>such, a moderator could delete the post or simply close the thread. 
>That's the beauty of
>forums. They are moderated. People would never get away with some of 
>the crap that
>goes on here. If someone slagged someone in one of the Help areas, a 
>moderator would
>just remove that post.

not quite. this list could be moderated. Moderation is moderation and 
requires a lot of work, whether it is this email list for a forum. 
Moderation and medium are two different things and are different 
conversations - if moderation is what is sought then this list could, 
for example, become moderated. But remember, it takes a lot of work 
to moderate (a list this busy I'd expect nearly an hour a day of your 
time if it was one person to skim, approve, reject with explanation).

>
>As I said way back when the forum idea was brought up, I prefer 
>forums. My inbox is
>already full of things that require my attention. I dont really want 
>more email to distract
>me or clutter up my mind. You say you would never go to a forum yet 
>you visit your inbox
>all the time? I dont understand that thinking. As Mr Meade said, you 
>could, if you so
>desired, have everything emailed to you anyways with a forum.

that's true, i've never been a fan of forums but my own bias (which 
it is) is that email is faster, and more productive for getting 
things happening, etc. it is noisy but that comes with the territory.

>
>Of course...if nothing changes, then nothing changes I guess. I 
>didnt start the group and
>was not involved when the ground rules were laid out and will 
>probably leave the group
>long before it ceases to exist.
>
>For what it's worth, and not like they matter at all, those are only 
>my opinions.

and they're good ones :-) reading this list via gmail for example 
brings it almost to a forum but as I said, I like that I can take 
it with me.
-- 
cheers
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this email is bloggable [ ] ask first [x] private [ ]
vogmae.net.au
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Re: [videoblogging] vidblog from IGF in Rio

[Jay dedman]

>  http://www.elon.edu/e-web/predictions/internet_governance_forum_2007.xhtml

>  Internet Governance Forum in Rio - November 2007
>  This site features reporting from the IGF proceedings. Daily written and
> video reports assembled by Imagining the Internet are linked, offering an
> exploration of the issues and interviews with people from around the world.

this is cool to see a good effort to post video from an international summit.
they even have a CC license of their work.

Jay

-- 
http://jaydedman.com
917 371 6790
Video: http://ryanishungry.com
Twitter: http://twitter.com/jaydedman
Photos: http://flickr.com/photos/jaydedman/
RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9

[videoblogging] Coffee With Ian

[Ian]

Hi all,

I have a networking site called Coffee With Ian, which you can find at
http://www.coffeewithian.com.  I invite you all to network with me
over a coffee if you're ever in New York and have the time.

I have been attracting some interesting people to my coffee meetups,
and want to add a videoblog element to it.  Anyone interested in
helping out?

--Ian

Re: [videoblogging] Online Video Posting Sites, HELP NEEDED please! :)

[Jay dedman]

>  Anyhow- are there any other video posting sites that would except this talk
> show? I tried
>  contacting blip, but have not heard back from them.
>  I am not looking to get a million views, i am just looking to not have my
> channel banned,
>  or flagged, or taken down.

Just start uploading to blip right now.
You can even make a show page.
They are smart folks...and have proven themselves to be open to all
kinds of content.

Jay

-- 
http://jaydedman.com
917 371 6790
Video: http://ryanishungry.com
Twitter: http://twitter.com/jaydedman
Photos: http://flickr.com/photos/jaydedman/
RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9

[videoblogging] Re: Online Video Posting Sites, HELP NEEDED please! :)

[Bill Cammack]

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "jt_hanner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hey Everyone,
> 
> My name is Jill.  I am on youtube, my link is
http://www.youtube.com/xgobobeanx 
> 
> i recently started vloging for a company that deals with nudity.  I
started a new channel on 
> youtube called http://www.youtube.com/icnakedpeople
> 
> Because I am somewhat popular on my xgobobeanx channel, I have
haters and stalkers.  
> These two groups have followed me over to my icnakedpeople channel
and have been 
> trying to get it shut down for inappropriate content.  I am not
showing nudity, but it is 
> more of a silly talk show about stories regarding nudity- nude beach
experiences, new 
> parties... etc.  If you have 5 free mins, please jump over to the
channel and take a look.  ( i 
> hope none of my stalkers on this email list-  if anyone wants to
trade scary stalker stories 
> i am all ears)
> 
> Anyhow-  are there any other video posting sites that would except
this talk show?  I tried 
> contacting blip, but have not heard back from them.

Try their yahoo group =>

 
> I am not looking to get a million views, i am just looking to not
have my channel banned, 
> or flagged, or taken down.
> 
> Any suggestions... please please please.. i am so desperate.
> 
> Not sure if anyone has every experienced haters, stalkers, and
obsessed people, but it 
> hurts and you feel out of control, because nothing can be done.
> 
> Thank you for listening,
> Jill
>

[videoblogging] Miro Media Player & Epic-Fu still shot in TechCrunch

[Bill Cammack]

"Miro Media Player Released; Billed as Open Joost Competitor"
by Mark Hendrickson


Version 1.0 of the open-source video player Miro was released earlier
today



or

http://tinyurl.com/yqmh6h

Re: [videoblogging] ripping a small portion of a DVD?

[RANDY MANN]

handbreak

On Nov 13, 2007 5:46 PM, jonny goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Anyone know of a free program for OSX that I can use rip just a 3
>  minute segment from a long chunk of video on a DVD?
>
>  

Re: [videoblogging] Online Video Posting Sites, HELP NEEDED please! :)

[RANDY MANN]

nice grapix
blip should host that for ya no problim
just put explicative content on the up load page

but then agagin i could be wrong

just rember blip is great
all hail blip

blip,blip huraray



On Nov 13, 2007 5:34 PM, jt_hanner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hey Everyone,
>
>  My name is Jill. I am on youtube, my link is
> http://www.youtube.com/xgobobeanx
>
>  i recently started vloging for a company that deals with nudity. I started
> a new channel on
>  youtube called http://www.youtube.com/icnakedpeople
>
>  Because I am somewhat popular on my xgobobeanx channel, I have haters and
> stalkers.
>  These two groups have followed me over to my icnakedpeople channel and have
> been
>  trying to get it shut down for inappropriate content. I am not showing
> nudity, but it is
>  more of a silly talk show about stories regarding nudity- nude beach
> experiences, new
>  parties... etc. If you have 5 free mins, please jump over to the channel
> and take a look. ( i
>  hope none of my stalkers on this email list- if anyone wants to trade scary
> stalker stories
>  i am all ears)
>
>  Anyhow- are there any other video posting sites that would except this talk
> show? I tried
>  contacting blip, but have not heard back from them.
>
>  I am not looking to get a million views, i am just looking to not have my
> channel banned,
>  or flagged, or taken down.
>
>  Any suggestions... please please please.. i am so desperate.
>
>  Not sure if anyone has every experienced haters, stalkers, and obsessed
> people, but it
>  hurts and you feel out of control, because nothing can be done.
>
>  Thank you for listening,
>  Jill
>
>  

[videoblogging] Re: Bored

[Steve Watkins]

Ive never used email to read or write to this group. The yahoo web interface is 
not as good 
as a forum, but its gradually moved closer, eg you can view messages by thread.

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/messages

There were attempts to setup forums some years ago, but there were never enough 
people who signed up. Frustrating though it is that inferior technology is 
used, this group 
achieved the critical mass of users necessary to make it some sort of 
community, and thats 
hard to replicate.

And as for forums & moderators, it can be quite a drain on those who do the 
policing. All 
too easily an 'us and them' thang can appear at times of strife. The 'light 
touch' approach 
on this list seems to have mostly worked ok, and avoids replacing the nasty 
feelings from 
ugly arguments, with nasty feelings that debate is being supressed. Arguments 
here end in 
the natural way, they fade off when the participants themselves get bored of 
it, or react 
badly to advise to chill out, and leave permanently.

Cheers

Steve Elbows
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "David Howell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Rather sad when a group that tries to push new media subscribes and restricts 
> itself to 
old 
> technology like email.
> 
> If this was a forum, there would be post and threads. If there were personal 
> attacks and 
> such, a moderator could delete the post or simply close the thread. That's 
> the beauty of 
> forums. They are moderated. People would never get away with some of the crap 
> that 
> goes on here. If someone slagged someone in one of the Help areas, a 
> moderator would 
> just remove that post.
> 
> As I said way back when the forum idea was brought up, I prefer forums. My 
> inbox is 
> already full of things that require my attention. I dont really want more 
> email to distract 
> me or clutter up my mind. You say you would never go to a forum yet you visit 
> your 
inbox 
> all the time? I dont understand that thinking. As Mr Meade said, you could, 
> if you so 
> desired, have everything emailed to you anyways with a forum.
> 
> Of course...if nothing changes, then nothing changes I guess. I didnt start 
> the group and 
> was not involved when the ground rules were laid out and will probably leave 
> the group 
> long before it ceases to exist.
> 
> For what it's worth, and not like they matter at all, those are only my 
> opinions.
> 
> David
> http://www.taoofdavid.com
> http://www.davidhowellstudios.com
> 
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Rupert Howe"  wrote:
> >
> > Yeah, a lot of us read in threads anyway, in gmail or whatever.
> > 
> > Even if each discussion was in its own 'room', with space to continue
> > a discussion for longer than this list allows, those rooms/threads
> > would still be poisoned and killed by personal slanging matches and
> > shouting.
> > 
> > I need my emails, too - I'd never visit a forum.  But that's just me.
> > 
> > I wonder if what we need is a Blog.  Kind of like a Yahoo VB List
> > Extra.  Longer discussions could be taken out of the group and
> > continued  on a blog for discussion in text comments and video
> > comments that we can subscribe to?
> > 
> > Rupert
> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "David Howell" 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > It's a real shame that this group never went the way of a "forum".
> > Would could have all 
> > > those things you listed in different sections on the forum and then
> > people could post in 
> > > the respective areas.
> > > 
> > > Those looking for help wouldnt have to be inundated with things they
> > have no interest in 
> > > and people that want to duke it out could do so off in a different area.
> > > 
> > > Hindsight...
> > > 
> > > David
> > > http://www.taoofdavid.com
> > > http://www.davidhowellstudios.com
> > > 
> > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Jay dedman"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >  We all get heated about issues - fine - but if people have got
> > > > >  something negative to say about another person, about their
> > > > >  motivations or anything that's likely to lead to a personal
> > slanging
> > > > >  match, perhaps they could show us the courtesy of having their open
> > > > >  and frank discussion on a blog and linking to it here.
> > > > 
> > > > andrew did blog it here: http://dembot.com/post/19305296
> > > > i hear you though. Substance in discussions is necessary.
> > > > We are trying to help each other do better than before.
> > > > 
> > > > after one of the blow-ups last year, I made a list last year of what I
> > > > thought the Videoblogging list was for:
> > > > 1. help new people to start videoblogging
> > > > 2. discuss new tech and its implications
> > > > 3. discuss what we need...and build it!
> > > > 4. let new companies know what is expected community behavior (after
> > > > we agree what it is)
> > > > 5. discuss creator's rights
> > > > 6. gossip and fight
> > > > 
> > > > we are certainly a chaotic crowd and "gossip and figh

[videoblogging] ripping a small portion of a DVD?

[jonny goldstein]

Anyone know of a free program for OSX that I can use rip just a 3
minute segment from a long chunk of video on a DVD?

[videoblogging] Online Video Posting Sites, HELP NEEDED please! :)

[jt_hanner]

Hey Everyone,

My name is Jill.  I am on youtube, my link is http://www.youtube.com/xgobobeanx 

i recently started vloging for a company that deals with nudity.  I started a 
new channel on 
youtube called http://www.youtube.com/icnakedpeople

Because I am somewhat popular on my xgobobeanx channel, I have haters and 
stalkers.  
These two groups have followed me over to my icnakedpeople channel and have 
been 
trying to get it shut down for inappropriate content.  I am not showing nudity, 
but it is 
more of a silly talk show about stories regarding nudity- nude beach 
experiences, new 
parties... etc.  If you have 5 free mins, please jump over to the channel and 
take a look.  ( i 
hope none of my stalkers on this email list-  if anyone wants to trade scary 
stalker stories 
i am all ears)

Anyhow-  are there any other video posting sites that would except this talk 
show?  I tried 
contacting blip, but have not heard back from them.

I am not looking to get a million views, i am just looking to not have my 
channel banned, 
or flagged, or taken down.

Any suggestions... please please please.. i am so desperate.

Not sure if anyone has every experienced haters, stalkers, and obsessed people, 
but it 
hurts and you feel out of control, because nothing can be done.

Thank you for listening,
Jill

[videoblogging] Question about Other Video posting Sites

[Jill H]

Hey Everyone,
My name is Jill.  I am on youtube, my link is
http://www.youtube.com/xgobobeanx

i recently started vloging for a company that deals with nudity.  I started
a new channel on youtube called http://www.youtube.com/icnakedpeople

Because I am somewhat popular on my xgobobeanx channel, I have haters and
stalkers.  These two groups have followed me over to my icnakedpeople
channel and have been trying to get it shut down for inappropriate content.
 I am not showing nudity, but it is more of a silly talk show about stories
regarding nudity- nude beach experiences, new parties... etc.  If you have 5
free mins, please jump over to the channel and take a look.  ( i hope none
of my stalkers on this email list-  if anyone wants to trade scary stalker
stories i am all ears)

Anyhow-  are there any other video posting sites that would except this talk
show?  I tried contacting blip, but have not heard back from them.

I am not looking to get a million views, i am just looking to not have my
channel banned, or flagged, or taken down.

Any suggestions... please please please.. i am so desperate.

Not sure if anyone has every experienced haters, stalkers, and obsessed
people, but it hurts and you feel out of control, because nothing can be
done.

Thank you for listening,
Jill


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bored

[Patrick Delongchamp]

Well, if we switch to a forum, those on email would never experience a
difference.

However, those that actually use the forum would be able to avoid
certain branches within a conversation.

I don't think we can realistically expect people to change email clients.

pd

On Nov 13, 2007 4:26 PM, Charles HOPE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Patrick Delongchamp wrote:
>  > I'm definitely not a regular contributor but I agree with David.
>  >
>  > This format just doesn't seem to be working as people keep
>  > unsubscribing and whenever there *is* an interesting discussion, it
>  > ends in bitterness.
>
>  Perhaps people could use e-mail clients that support threads? And then have
>  the discipline (?) to avoid the threads they don't like?
>
>  

Re: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo - the 12th

[Kath O'Donnell]

that's great! thanks I found my feed. thanks again for your help! and
thanks Frank too!
kath

On Nov 13, 2007 9:28 PM, David Meade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> yeah they make it so hard to find. But here's their low-down on rss feeds:
>
>  http://www.youtube.com/rssls
>
>  --
>  http://www.DavidMeade.com
>

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bored

[Charles HOPE]

Patrick Delongchamp wrote:
> I'm definitely not a regular contributor but I agree with David.
> 
> This format just doesn't seem to be working as people keep
> unsubscribing and whenever there *is* an interesting discussion, it
> ends in bitterness.


Perhaps people could use e-mail clients that support threads?  And then have 
the discipline (?) to avoid the threads they don't like?

[videoblogging] Re: Bored

[eric gunnar rochow]

it looks like people aren't into the idea of a forum type group, but  
i've been working on a Ning.com site for Gardenfork and  
RealWorldGreen and it can send emails when new items are posted, and  
has some integration with Facebook and Twitter. and you can post videos.

eric. .

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bored

[Patrick Delongchamp]

I'm definitely not a regular contributor but I agree with David.

This format just doesn't seem to be working as people keep
unsubscribing and whenever there *is* an interesting discussion, it
ends in bitterness.

A forum would probably work much much better.  In order to properly
make the switch we could start a campaign where everyone mentions the
new forum in their latest vlog.  We could provide instructions on how
to forward all messages to your inbox.  I'd be happy to create a
tutorial.

Are there any forums that are ahead of their time that we can look at
and discuss?

Patrick

On Nov 13, 2007 4:02 PM, David Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Rather sad when a group that tries to push new media subscribes and
> restricts itself to old
>  technology like email.
>
>  If this was a forum, there would be post and threads. If there were
> personal attacks and
>  such, a moderator could delete the post or simply close the thread. That's
> the beauty of
>  forums. They are moderated. People would never get away with some of the
> crap that
>  goes on here. If someone slagged someone in one of the Help areas, a
> moderator would
>  just remove that post.
>
>  As I said way back when the forum idea was brought up, I prefer forums. My
> inbox is
>  already full of things that require my attention. I dont really want more
> email to distract
>  me or clutter up my mind. You say you would never go to a forum yet you
> visit your inbox
>  all the time? I dont understand that thinking. As Mr Meade said, you could,
> if you so
>  desired, have everything emailed to you anyways with a forum.
>
>  Of course...if nothing changes, then nothing changes I guess. I didnt start
> the group and
>  was not involved when the ground rules were laid out and will probably
> leave the group
>  long before it ceases to exist.
>
>  For what it's worth, and not like they matter at all, those are only my
> opinions.
>
>
>  David
>  http://www.taoofdavid.com
>  http://www.davidhowellstudios.com
>
>
>  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Rupert Howe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
>  >
>  > Yeah, a lot of us read in threads anyway, in gmail or whatever.
>  >
>  > Even if each discussion was in its own 'room', with space to continue
>  > a discussion for longer than this list allows, those rooms/threads
>  > would still be poisoned and killed by personal slanging matches and
>  > shouting.
>  >
>  > I need my emails, too - I'd never visit a forum. But that's just me.
>  >
>  > I wonder if what we need is a Blog. Kind of like a Yahoo VB List
>  > Extra. Longer discussions could be taken out of the group and
>  > continued on a blog for discussion in text comments and video
>  > comments that we can subscribe to?
>  >
>  > Rupert
>  > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "David Howell" 
>  > wrote:
>  > >
>  > > It's a real shame that this group never went the way of a "forum".
>  > Would could have all
>  > > those things you listed in different sections on the forum and then
>  > people could post in
>  > > the respective areas.
>  > >
>  > > Those looking for help wouldnt have to be inundated with things they
>  > have no interest in
>  > > and people that want to duke it out could do so off in a different
> area.
>  > >
>  > > Hindsight...
>  > >
>  > > David
>  > > http://www.taoofdavid.com
>  > > http://www.davidhowellstudios.com
>  > >
>  > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Jay dedman"  wrote:
>  > > >
>  > > > > We all get heated about issues - fine - but if people have got
>  > > > > something negative to say about another person, about their
>  > > > > motivations or anything that's likely to lead to a personal
>  > slanging
>  > > > > match, perhaps they could show us the courtesy of having their open
>  > > > > and frank discussion on a blog and linking to it here.
>  > > >
>  > > > andrew did blog it here: http://dembot.com/post/19305296
>  > > > i hear you though. Substance in discussions is necessary.
>  > > > We are trying to help each other do better than before.
>  > > >
>  > > > after one of the blow-ups last year, I made a list last year of what
> I
>  > > > thought the Videoblogging list was for:
>  > > > 1. help new people to start videoblogging
>  > > > 2. discuss new tech and its implications
>  > > > 3. discuss what we need...and build it!
>  > > > 4. let new companies know what is expected community behavior (after
>  > > > we agree what it is)
>  > > > 5. discuss creator's rights
>  > > > 6. gossip and fight
>  > > >
>  > > > we are certainly a chaotic crowd and "gossip and fight" is just a
>  > group dynamic.
>  > > > doesnt mean we got to encourage or stand for itbut here we are.
>  > > >
>  > > > Jay
>  > > >
>  > > > --
>  > > > http://jaydedman.com
>  > > > 917 371 6790
>  > > > Video: http://ryanishungry.com
>  > > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/jaydedman
>  > > > Photos: http://flickr.com/photos/jaydedman/
>  > > > RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9
>  > > >
>  > >
>  >
>
>
>
>  

[videoblogging] Re: Advice on how to get to 100-250k views a day (quickly)?

[Bill Cammack]

Interestingly enough, to both aspects of this conversation, A) Mahalo,
and B) formula...

Veronica posted today that Mahalo Daily was featured on iTunes today:



along with WallStrip, Daily Feed, Epic-Fu, Crave, Alive in Mexico,
Fuel TV, and NPR: Bryant Park Project.




--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Cammack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Jeffrey Taylor"
>  wrote:
> >
> > Saying sex sells is only a small part of a longstanding and more
> > comprehensive theory in advertising that creating a somewhat realistic
> > aspirational arrival point for an audience is what sells. This is
why we
> > have women presenting on many of these shows that are good looking,
> but more
> > within reach for male audiences than a runway model would be. The
> idea that
> > these male viewers have somewhat of a "chance" keeps eyes on the
> screen, or
> > at least encourages the eyes to return to the screen. 
> 
> Interesting point.  That makes sense.  It also makes sense from a
> basic, yet admittedly stereotypical position of "models being models",
> and mostly nothing else.  If you hire a model that's TOO attractive,
> the viewer isn't going to internally BELIEVE that she actually knows
> (or cares) anything about the topic.  I know that's unfair, and that
> there are lots of really attractive women that are really intelligent
> and have great personalities at the same time.  However, it would be
> the same effect as "booth babes" at trade shows or "umbrella girls" @
> MotoGP races.  You might feed the booth babes a couple of lines about
> the product, but nobody believes they're anything more than hired
> guns, designed to "cheat" the viewer into paying attention in the
> direction of the product they're standing next to... while they're
> wearing spandex in the middle of winter. (not that *I*m complaining
> about THAT! :D)
> 
> I'm not talking about women that actually know something and are
> representatives of the company, but you'll notice that they tend to be
> dressed differently, and have a completely different presentation and
> presence.  They're expected to be knowledgeable and proficient,
> because they're the SUBSTANCE, the bridge between the gawkers coming
> by to see the booth babes, and them actually becoming aware of and
> interested in buying her company's product.
> 
> So, yes... Part of "the formula" is "go good-looking-female, but don't
> overdo it!" :D
> 
> > When looking across
> > the advertising spectrum and into more general interest brands
that run
> > across demographics, you see that this theory has manifested in more
> diverse
> > ways than the proliferation of sexuality. There's nothing overtly or
> > covertly sexual in Apple's marketing of the iPod, for example, but
> there is
> > something overtly sexy about how an iPod is marketed.
> > 
> > I personally think it's a bit silly to keep repeating the
> > girl-tells-us-about-tech model over and over, lazily avoiding the
> > development of new audiences. I'd love to get some research on this,
> but I
> > hypothesize that these types of shows (Webb Alert, Geekbrief, etc.
> > –Rocketboom is a bit different because there's more of a hipster
> demo going
> > on there) are being watched by the same slowly-growing crowd.
> 
> 
> Unfortunately, as "the formula" keeps working, groups are going to
> keep *working* it.  LonelyBoy15 would have been a never-viewed
> failure.  I agree with you that it's laziness.  At this point in time,
> groups are struggling JUST to put a show together, forget about
> experimenting with new models! :)  They want to know what attractive
> girl they can get, how well she comes across on camera and how much
> 'cred' she has in whatever the field is in THAT order.  'Cred' is
> good for initial numbers, but not necessary if she can read what the
> ghost-writers feed her.
> 
> > I am looking forward to seeing who's going to be brave enough to
> throw away
> > or at least expand on the girl-on-a-screen model when it comes to tech
> > reporting on the web, creating a larger market than the present
niche by
> > providing aspirational arrival points for more than just males,
> primarily
> > 18-25, maybe 35. These shows have mastered a niche, but have are not
> > bringing other niches to the table as building blocks to a larger
> and more
> > general audience. 
> 
> Excellent point.  The target zone is getting younger, not older. 
> Shows are being made to appeal to the lowest common denominator, like
> MTV-watchers, viral video and email-joke-senders.  I had a meeting
> with a newspaper owner about bringing his paper online, and his inital
> response was "well... that might be good for the younger readers...".
>  I think that in general, people are seeing technology as being used
> increasingly by younger viewers/users and assuming that older internet
> users just fade away.
> 
> Using your "aspirational ar

[videoblogging] Critique of new MySpace video series

[Jay dedman]

Rick Rey twittered about this review:
http://current.com/items/87240791_myspace_gets_original
pretty smart.

you got to wait till the end for all the goodies.
The show seems to be everything bad with TV but more poorly done.

Jay

-- 
http://jaydedman.com
917 371 6790
Video: http://ryanishungry.com
Twitter: http://twitter.com/jaydedman
Photos: http://flickr.com/photos/jaydedman/
RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Advice on how to get to 100-250k views a day (quickly)?

[Charles HOPE]

Rupert wrote:

> 
> People will not watch shows on a computer.  Do you know anybody who  
> watches anything on a computer?  Other than the odd bored moment  
> surfing old TV shows on Youtube? 
...
> I firmly believe it's  
> just a matter of someone bringing internet video to the couch. 



I watch all my DVDs and my video subscriptions using Miro on my computer and my 
couch! When plugged in to my Bose wave radio, the video and audio is much 
better than my old CRT TV.

[videoblogging] Re: Bored

[David Howell]

Rather sad when a group that tries to push new media subscribes and restricts 
itself to old 
technology like email.

If this was a forum, there would be post and threads. If there were personal 
attacks and 
such, a moderator could delete the post or simply close the thread. That's the 
beauty of 
forums. They are moderated. People would never get away with some of the crap 
that 
goes on here. If someone slagged someone in one of the Help areas, a moderator 
would 
just remove that post.

As I said way back when the forum idea was brought up, I prefer forums. My 
inbox is 
already full of things that require my attention. I dont really want more email 
to distract 
me or clutter up my mind. You say you would never go to a forum yet you visit 
your inbox 
all the time? I dont understand that thinking. As Mr Meade said, you could, if 
you so 
desired, have everything emailed to you anyways with a forum.

Of course...if nothing changes, then nothing changes I guess. I didnt start the 
group and 
was not involved when the ground rules were laid out and will probably leave 
the group 
long before it ceases to exist.

For what it's worth, and not like they matter at all, those are only my 
opinions.

David
http://www.taoofdavid.com
http://www.davidhowellstudios.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Rupert Howe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Yeah, a lot of us read in threads anyway, in gmail or whatever.
> 
> Even if each discussion was in its own 'room', with space to continue
> a discussion for longer than this list allows, those rooms/threads
> would still be poisoned and killed by personal slanging matches and
> shouting.
> 
> I need my emails, too - I'd never visit a forum.  But that's just me.
> 
> I wonder if what we need is a Blog.  Kind of like a Yahoo VB List
> Extra.  Longer discussions could be taken out of the group and
> continued  on a blog for discussion in text comments and video
> comments that we can subscribe to?
> 
> Rupert
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "David Howell" 
> wrote:
> >
> > It's a real shame that this group never went the way of a "forum".
> Would could have all 
> > those things you listed in different sections on the forum and then
> people could post in 
> > the respective areas.
> > 
> > Those looking for help wouldnt have to be inundated with things they
> have no interest in 
> > and people that want to duke it out could do so off in a different area.
> > 
> > Hindsight...
> > 
> > David
> > http://www.taoofdavid.com
> > http://www.davidhowellstudios.com
> > 
> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Jay dedman"  wrote:
> > >
> > > >  We all get heated about issues - fine - but if people have got
> > > >  something negative to say about another person, about their
> > > >  motivations or anything that's likely to lead to a personal
> slanging
> > > >  match, perhaps they could show us the courtesy of having their open
> > > >  and frank discussion on a blog and linking to it here.
> > > 
> > > andrew did blog it here: http://dembot.com/post/19305296
> > > i hear you though. Substance in discussions is necessary.
> > > We are trying to help each other do better than before.
> > > 
> > > after one of the blow-ups last year, I made a list last year of what I
> > > thought the Videoblogging list was for:
> > > 1. help new people to start videoblogging
> > > 2. discuss new tech and its implications
> > > 3. discuss what we need...and build it!
> > > 4. let new companies know what is expected community behavior (after
> > > we agree what it is)
> > > 5. discuss creator's rights
> > > 6. gossip and fight
> > > 
> > > we are certainly a chaotic crowd and "gossip and fight" is just a
> group dynamic.
> > > doesnt mean we got to encourage or stand for itbut here we are.
> > > 
> > > Jay
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > http://jaydedman.com
> > > 917 371 6790
> > > Video: http://ryanishungry.com
> > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/jaydedman
> > > Photos: http://flickr.com/photos/jaydedman/
> > > RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9
> > >
> >
>

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bored

[Patrick Delongchamp]

As much as people don't like seeing a thread derailed, I think people
also don't like seeing comments like "take it to your blog."

I'd rather see a message that expresses "please, no personal attacks"
than those that express "go back to where you came from."  I guess
what I'm saying is that if you see something you don't like you should
ignore it or talk about it.  I just don't think telling someone to
take it somewhere else is the appropriate answer.  (though I could
maybe be convinced otherwise, any thoughts?)

After all, this is a discussion group and discussions should flow
freely.  The linear thread style of gmail (which most of us probably
use) makes it difficult to ignore certain branches of a thread.  Until
the format changes, we have to accept that those branches will be
whipping us in the face once in a while.

On Nov 13, 2007 3:13 PM, Steve Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Unsurprisingly I dont subscribe to the idea that arguments like these get in
> the way of
>  other discussions or devalue them. If that happens, its because people
> choose to let it
>  distract them.
>
>  Its fair enough that when things get nasty/ugly, some peoples reactions is
> to get the
>  negative poop out of their lives, either by trying to shut others up, or by
> leaving, or
>  whatever. Its some sort of natural internal defense I guess.
>
>  I was always up for forums rather than a signle list, though for different
> reasons, and not
>  optimistic about it actually ever happening. Even with forums, arguments,
> spill over to
>  other areas and the vibe-poisoning effect is stillt he same.
>
>  But would a world without such confrontations be a good thing? I think not,
> I think in a
>  strange way it is necessary for people to get ugly to get to the bottom of
> things. A world
>  in which nobody argues is a world in which unspeakable horrors are likely
> to go unchecked
>  because they are unpalatable to think about. If liberals save the planet
> then maybe I will
>  change my tune, and if everyone was as decent a human as you then this
> ugliness would
>  not be necessary (not being sarcastic there, I think you have a great
> personality), but for
>  now I remain sadly on the side that believes you get to learn a lot from
> uglyness.
>
>  Cheers
>
>  Steve Elbows
>
>
>  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Rupert Howe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
>  >
>  > Great list of purposes for this group. Really well thought out.
>  >
>  > The last item is gossip & fight. Gossip can be positive, more often
>  > than fighting, and can lead to interesting discussions.
>  >
>  > And gossip is generally done here in a friendly spirit.
>  >
>  > Since the fighting is the last item, and when it happens it gets in
>  > the way of (and devalues) all the other 5/6 more important items, I
>  > think it's something we could encourage people to take to their blogs.
>  > And not duplicate it here, just link.
>  >
>  > (Unless someone else brings it as a matter of interest. Like happened
>  > with Lan & Podtech. He never brought it here, or discussed it here.
>  > And actually, the Podtech discussion, as heated as it got, stayed very
>  > impersonal and stuck to the issues, for the most part.)
>  >
>  > When I was a newbie here in spring/summer 05, I saw the fighting and
>  > thought 'these people are weird'. If No 1 is to help people start
>  > videoblogging, this kind of stuff is totally counterproductive. In my
>  > humble opinion ;)
>  >
>  > Rupert
>  > http://twittervlog.tv
>  > http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog
>  >
>  > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Jay dedman"  wrote:
>  > >
>  > > > We all get heated about issues - fine - but if people have got
>  > > > something negative to say about another person, about their
>  > > > motivations or anything that's likely to lead to a personal slanging
>  > > > match, perhaps they could show us the courtesy of having their open
>  > > > and frank discussion on a blog and linking to it here.
>  > >
>  > > andrew did blog it here: http://dembot.com/post/19305296
>  > > i hear you though. Substance in discussions is necessary.
>  > > We are trying to help each other do better than before.
>  > >
>  > > after one of the blow-ups last year, I made a list last year of what I
>  > > thought the Videoblogging list was for:
>  > > 1. help new people to start videoblogging
>  > > 2. discuss new tech and its implications
>  > > 3. discuss what we need...and build it!
>  > > 4. let new companies know what is expected community behavior (after
>  > > we agree what it is)
>  > > 5. discuss creator's rights
>  > > 6. gossip and fight
>  > >
>  > > we are certainly a chaotic crowd and "gossip and fight" is just a
>  > group dynamic.
>  > > doesnt mean we got to encourage or stand for itbut here we are.
>  > >
>  > > Jay
>  > >
>  > > --
>  > > http://jaydedman.com
>  > > 917 371 6790
>  > > Video: http://ryanishungry.com
>  > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/jaydedman
>  > >

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Advice on how to get to 100-250k views a day (quickly)?

[Rupert]

I think a lot of people stopped posting so much for a while, and  
discussing things at length.  I'm sure there wasn't any backing away  
from you.


On 13 Nov 2007, at 19:09, Steve Watkins wrote:

That wikipedia debate appeared to kill what little goodwill and  
tolerance people showed
towards me in the past. I was used to getting few replies to my  
posts, but since then I get
virtually none, and my posts havent changed in length. I talk too  
much in the flesh too, its
a part of me, Im stuck with it, wheras everyone in this group will  
eventually escape it when,
one day, for whatever reasons, I dont post here anymore.

I dont think Im any sort of voice of reason. I have ideas about what  
a discussion should
involve, what the boundaries & word count are, that do not appear to  
be the norm, which,
along with various other social deformities, make me a general  
failure at being human, as
my genital cobwebs will attest to.

Cheers

Steve Elbows

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Delongchamp"  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
 >
 > Personally, this is the most exciting thing I've seen since the
 > Wikipedia Storm of '07.
 >
 > Heath, it's definitely a pattern I know and enjoy and Dennis, you may
 > be right that it has very little to do with "Videoblogging" but it is
 > very much "the videoblogging group." :)
 >
 > I always found it interesting to have an inside perspective of this
 > medium's moguls. I doubt there's a Yahoo Group in which Rupert
 > Murdoch contributes.
 >
 > As a side note to Andrew, I have to stand up for Steve here as he's
 > often the voice of reason in this group and in a past experience had
 > stood up for me and Wikipedia's core content policies when it was the
 > very unpopular thing to do. However there is something to be said for
 > for being concise in discussions. I once heard from a wise source:
 > Posts longer than 100 words are difficult to understand and are
 > frequently either ignored, misunderstood or misinterpreted.
 >
 > darn...151 words...now 156...
 >
 > On Nov 13, 2007 5:05 AM, Andrew Baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > > On Nov 12, 2007, at 4:43 PM, Steve Watkins wrote:
 > >
 > > > So whilst I admired the fact that rocketboom didn't seem to be
 > >
 > > > selling out in the
 > > > usual sense, for money, I became disturbed by some possible signs
 > > > that Mr Baron was
 > > > seeking to achieve a different sort of power.
 > >
 > > AH YES!!! Its all about power, mwahahahahaha! But what kind of
 > > Power did you say!? A DIFFERENT kind?? M I like the sound of
 > > this . . . . A NEW kind of Power! BETTER THAN MONEY!!!
 > >
 > > Speaking of power Steve, I dare you to not respond to a single  
thread
 > > on this list. Ill bet you can't do it in under 5000 words.
 > >
 > > Speaking of Jason, he's most known for:
 > >
 > > 1. Stealing the idea and the people from Gizmodo to make the
 > > identical knock off- Engagdget
 > > 2. Not paying employees fair wages.
 > > 3. Trying to steal Amanda from Rocketboom (only one day after news
 > > broke)
 > > 4. Trying to steal top posters from Digg for Netscape
 > > 2. Killing Netscape by making it into a Diggclone and then getting
 > > fired from AOL
 > > 3. Building a site called Mahalo which is suffering badly and no  
one
 > > likes.
 > >
 > > Not just based on these few examples which have been extremely
 > > destructive to the world, but also based on his regular,
 > > stereotypical activity of attacking people instead of their work, I
 > > just want to throw out that Jason's only means of being popular is
 > > exactly this: taking and causing conflict.
 > >
 > > Look no further than Ann Coulter. It works great for her. If they
 > > can't do it based on their own good ideas and they cant do it while
 > > collaborating with others, at least they can do it by shitting all
 > > over everyone.
 > >
 > > Usually a good post has a lot of conversation but doesn't cause
 > > others to speak out so negatively at the author. This is likely the
 > > reason why there have been SO MANY bad reactions to Jason's post:
 > > When one lives their life so selfishly while attacking and being
 > > brutal, its destructive to everyone around because it causes damage
 > > and rubs off on the rest off.
 > >
 > > My original answer to the original thread was likely not  
considered.
 > > The best way to grow your audience is not by spamming everyone. Its
 > > by improving your show. At this point Jason, you really  
shouldn't be
 > > asking any other questions until you get that one worked out.  
You got
 > > Veronica, she's great. You should be paying Veronica more, you need
 > > to invest in some better equipment and get some production help.  
How
 > > can you improve the show?
 > >
 > > We ask ourselves this question every single day and it continues to
 > > receive the most concern out of every thing we do.
 > >
 > >
 > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 > >
 > >
 > >

[videoblogging] Re: Bored

[Steve Watkins]

Unsurprisingly I dont subscribe to the idea that arguments like these get in 
the way of 
other discussions or devalue them. If that happens, its because people choose 
to let it 
distract them. 

Its fair enough that when things get nasty/ugly, some peoples reactions is to 
get the 
negative poop out of their lives, either by trying to shut others up, or by 
leaving, or 
whatever. Its some sort of natural internal defense I guess. 

I was always up for forums rather than a signle list, though for different 
reasons, and not 
optimistic about it actually ever happening. Even with forums, arguments, spill 
over to 
other areas and the vibe-poisoning effect is stillt he same.

But would a world without such confrontations be a good thing? I think not, I 
think in a  
strange way it is necessary for people to get ugly to get to the bottom of 
things. A world 
in which nobody argues is a world in which unspeakable horrors are likely to go 
unchecked 
because they are unpalatable to think about. If liberals save the planet then 
maybe I will 
change my tune, and if everyone was as decent a human as you then this ugliness 
would 
not be necessary (not being sarcastic there, I think you have a great 
personality), but for 
now I remain sadly on the side that believes you get to learn a lot from 
uglyness.

Cheers

Steve Elbows 
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Rupert Howe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Great list of purposes for this group.  Really well thought out.
>  
> The last item is gossip & fight.  Gossip can be positive, more often
> than fighting, and can lead to interesting discussions.
> 
> And gossip is generally done here in a friendly spirit.
> 
> Since the fighting is the last item, and when it happens it gets in
> the way of (and devalues) all the other 5/6 more important items, I
> think it's something we could encourage people to take to their blogs.
>  And not duplicate it here, just link.  
> 
> (Unless someone else brings it as a matter of interest.  Like happened
> with Lan & Podtech. He never brought it here, or discussed it here. 
> And actually, the Podtech discussion, as heated as it got, stayed very
> impersonal and stuck to the issues, for the most part.)
> 
> When I was a newbie here in spring/summer 05, I saw the fighting and
> thought 'these people are weird'.  If No 1 is to help people start
> videoblogging, this kind of stuff is totally counterproductive.  In my
> humble opinion ;)
> 
> Rupert
> http://twittervlog.tv
> http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog
> 
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Jay dedman"  wrote:
> >
> > >  We all get heated about issues - fine - but if people have got
> > >  something negative to say about another person, about their
> > >  motivations or anything that's likely to lead to a personal slanging
> > >  match, perhaps they could show us the courtesy of having their open
> > >  and frank discussion on a blog and linking to it here.
> > 
> > andrew did blog it here: http://dembot.com/post/19305296
> > i hear you though. Substance in discussions is necessary.
> > We are trying to help each other do better than before.
> > 
> > after one of the blow-ups last year, I made a list last year of what I
> > thought the Videoblogging list was for:
> > 1. help new people to start videoblogging
> > 2. discuss new tech and its implications
> > 3. discuss what we need...and build it!
> > 4. let new companies know what is expected community behavior (after
> > we agree what it is)
> > 5. discuss creator's rights
> > 6. gossip and fight
> > 
> > we are certainly a chaotic crowd and "gossip and fight" is just a
> group dynamic.
> > doesnt mean we got to encourage or stand for itbut here we are.
> > 
> > Jay
> > 
> > -- 
> > http://jaydedman.com
> > 917 371 6790
> > Video: http://ryanishungry.com
> > Twitter: http://twitter.com/jaydedman
> > Photos: http://flickr.com/photos/jaydedman/
> > RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9
> >
>

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bored

[Jay dedman]

>  Since the fighting is the last item, and when it happens it gets in
>  the way of (and devalues) all the other 5/6 more important items, I
>  think it's something we could encourage people to take to their blogs.
>  And not duplicate it here, just link.

agreed.
this is a great suggestion.
if a thread starts getting heated...lets just ask the parties involved
to take the time to blog their positions.
Then the outside world can get involved as well.

Jay


-- 
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917 371 6790
Video: http://ryanishungry.com
Twitter: http://twitter.com/jaydedman
Photos: http://flickr.com/photos/jaydedman/
RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9

[videoblogging] Re: Advice on how to get to 100-250k views a day (quickly)?

[Steve Watkins]

Thanks Jay. Lets not indulge my occasional forays into self-hate and self-pity 
showers too 
much though eh, these are the times I probably should be ignored. Or this is an 
example 
of where I go wrong, always focus on the negative

Theres a lot of people here who are a help and inspiration to me. One day I 
hope to 
harness the flickers of positivity and possibility within me, and achieve 
something useful. 
Ive proven to myself that I can do this, in very small doses, this year, but 
have yet to learn 
how to sustain it.

Anyways, I shall now try to take my own advice and post something completely 
different. I 
still intend to join in with this navlopomo or whatever its called, even if Ive 
missed nearly 
half of it.

Returning vaguely to the original topic, it just occured to me that this thread 
is more like 
what a real human search engine could be like... Do a search and get back a 
dozen people 
arguing about suitable results :D

Cheers

Steve Elbows
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Jay dedman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >  I dont think Im any sort of voice of reason. I have ideas about what a
> > discussion should  involve, what the boundaries & word count are, that do 
> > not appear 
to be the
> > norm, which, along with various other social deformities, make me a general 
> > failure at
> > being human, as my genital cobwebs will attest to.
> 
> steve, I hope you know we love you.
> any lack of response to your emails are probably more due to our lack
> of wordmanship.
> 
> As to the poetry in your last paragraph attests, you should make
> videos for evilvlog where all the superstars go.
> no boundaries or expectations.
> 
> jay
> 
> -- 
> http://jaydedman.com
> 917 371 6790
> Video: http://ryanishungry.com
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/jaydedman
> Photos: http://flickr.com/photos/jaydedman/
> RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9
>

[videoblogging] Re: Bored

[Rupert Howe]

Yeah, a lot of us read in threads anyway, in gmail or whatever.

Even if each discussion was in its own 'room', with space to continue
a discussion for longer than this list allows, those rooms/threads
would still be poisoned and killed by personal slanging matches and
shouting.

I need my emails, too - I'd never visit a forum.  But that's just me.

I wonder if what we need is a Blog.  Kind of like a Yahoo VB List
Extra.  Longer discussions could be taken out of the group and
continued  on a blog for discussion in text comments and video
comments that we can subscribe to?

Rupert
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "David Howell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> It's a real shame that this group never went the way of a "forum".
Would could have all 
> those things you listed in different sections on the forum and then
people could post in 
> the respective areas.
> 
> Those looking for help wouldnt have to be inundated with things they
have no interest in 
> and people that want to duke it out could do so off in a different area.
> 
> Hindsight...
> 
> David
> http://www.taoofdavid.com
> http://www.davidhowellstudios.com
> 
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Jay dedman"  wrote:
> >
> > >  We all get heated about issues - fine - but if people have got
> > >  something negative to say about another person, about their
> > >  motivations or anything that's likely to lead to a personal
slanging
> > >  match, perhaps they could show us the courtesy of having their open
> > >  and frank discussion on a blog and linking to it here.
> > 
> > andrew did blog it here: http://dembot.com/post/19305296
> > i hear you though. Substance in discussions is necessary.
> > We are trying to help each other do better than before.
> > 
> > after one of the blow-ups last year, I made a list last year of what I
> > thought the Videoblogging list was for:
> > 1. help new people to start videoblogging
> > 2. discuss new tech and its implications
> > 3. discuss what we need...and build it!
> > 4. let new companies know what is expected community behavior (after
> > we agree what it is)
> > 5. discuss creator's rights
> > 6. gossip and fight
> > 
> > we are certainly a chaotic crowd and "gossip and fight" is just a
group dynamic.
> > doesnt mean we got to encourage or stand for itbut here we are.
> > 
> > Jay
> > 
> > -- 
> > http://jaydedman.com
> > 917 371 6790
> > Video: http://ryanishungry.com
> > Twitter: http://twitter.com/jaydedman
> > Photos: http://flickr.com/photos/jaydedman/
> > RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9
> >
>

[videoblogging] Re: Bored

[Rupert Howe]

Great list of purposes for this group.  Really well thought out.
 
The last item is gossip & fight.  Gossip can be positive, more often
than fighting, and can lead to interesting discussions.

And gossip is generally done here in a friendly spirit.

Since the fighting is the last item, and when it happens it gets in
the way of (and devalues) all the other 5/6 more important items, I
think it's something we could encourage people to take to their blogs.
 And not duplicate it here, just link.  

(Unless someone else brings it as a matter of interest.  Like happened
with Lan & Podtech. He never brought it here, or discussed it here. 
And actually, the Podtech discussion, as heated as it got, stayed very
impersonal and stuck to the issues, for the most part.)

When I was a newbie here in spring/summer 05, I saw the fighting and
thought 'these people are weird'.  If No 1 is to help people start
videoblogging, this kind of stuff is totally counterproductive.  In my
humble opinion ;)

Rupert
http://twittervlog.tv
http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Jay dedman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >  We all get heated about issues - fine - but if people have got
> >  something negative to say about another person, about their
> >  motivations or anything that's likely to lead to a personal slanging
> >  match, perhaps they could show us the courtesy of having their open
> >  and frank discussion on a blog and linking to it here.
> 
> andrew did blog it here: http://dembot.com/post/19305296
> i hear you though. Substance in discussions is necessary.
> We are trying to help each other do better than before.
> 
> after one of the blow-ups last year, I made a list last year of what I
> thought the Videoblogging list was for:
> 1. help new people to start videoblogging
> 2. discuss new tech and its implications
> 3. discuss what we need...and build it!
> 4. let new companies know what is expected community behavior (after
> we agree what it is)
> 5. discuss creator's rights
> 6. gossip and fight
> 
> we are certainly a chaotic crowd and "gossip and fight" is just a
group dynamic.
> doesnt mean we got to encourage or stand for itbut here we are.
> 
> Jay
> 
> -- 
> http://jaydedman.com
> 917 371 6790
> Video: http://ryanishungry.com
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/jaydedman
> Photos: http://flickr.com/photos/jaydedman/
> RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9
>

[videoblogging] vidblog from IGF in Rio

[WWWhatsup]

[a nice effort]

http://www.elon.edu/e-web/predictions/internet_governance_forum_2007.xhtml


Internet Governance Forum in Rio - November 2007 

The world's second Internet Governance Forum, is taking place in Rio de 
Janeiro, Brazil, Nov. 12-15, 2007. The Rio IGF is the second of five annual 
global events that attract stakeholders from all walks of life who come 
together to discuss issues tied to the future of information and communications 
technologies, including control over the internet architecture and numbering 
and naming system, security, intellectual property, openness, connectivity, 
cost and multilingualism. 

This site features reporting from the IGF proceedings. Daily written and video 
reports assembled by Imagining the Internet are linked, offering an exploration 
of the issues and interviews with people from around the world.  


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Advice on how to get to 100-250k views a day (quickly)?

[Jay dedman]

>  I dont think Im any sort of voice of reason. I have ideas about what a
> discussion should  involve, what the boundaries & word count are, that do not 
> appear to be the
> norm, which, along with various other social deformities, make me a general 
> failure at
> being human, as my genital cobwebs will attest to.

steve, I hope you know we love you.
any lack of response to your emails are probably more due to our lack
of wordmanship.

As to the poetry in your last paragraph attests, you should make
videos for evilvlog where all the superstars go.
no boundaries or expectations.

jay

-- 
http://jaydedman.com
917 371 6790
Video: http://ryanishungry.com
Twitter: http://twitter.com/jaydedman
Photos: http://flickr.com/photos/jaydedman/
RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9

Re: [videoblogging] bad Western Digital Hardrives?

[Kenya Allmond]

As you have seen in the replies, it's pretty much a crap shoot regarding hard 
drives.  At work we handle hundreds, if not thousands, of hard drives 
regularly.  The ones that fail most of the time are LaCie and Seagate even 
though we buy primarily Western Digital internal and Maxtor externals.  We have 
relatively few problems with Western Digital and Maxtor.

Hard drives have moving parts that are bound to fail.  The best choice for 
storing large amounts of data is some sort of RAID configuration where if one 
or two disks go, the data can be reconstructed.  Even then you still have to 
back the data up if it's valuable.

The funny thing about media is that pretty much everything out there WILL fail. 
 CDs and DVDs have shelf lives (not sure what it is though).  And hard drives 
crash.  Companies still use tapes for backup and they are problematic as well.

All that to say: Use a RAID and backup often.
 
. . .
Kenya Allmond
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://kenya.allmond.us
http://kenya.allmond.us/vlog
VM/F 202-478-0490

To thine own self be true.


- Original Message 
From: John Coffey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 10:22:56 AM
Subject: [videoblogging] bad Western Digital Hardrives?


I think I read either here or on Twitter that Bill
Streeter had 3 harddrives go bad last week. I'm
starting to find that my Western Digital WD HD's don't
show up on the desktop. And one of them had smoke
coming out like a toaster. Any other thoughts on these
"always on sale at Best Buy" clunkers. I'm gonna spend
the $ on reliable LaCie.
John

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Advice on how to get to 100-250k views a day (quickly)?

[Patrick Delongchamp]

Well, it was pretty awful and I too unsubscribed afterward.  ...but
there's just something about it that draws you in...  as I'm sure many
participants in this thread can attest to.

but boy is it nice to be on the sidelines.  which is why i'm going to
shut up now.

On Nov 13, 2007 1:51 PM, Rupert Howe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I'm amazed that you like it Patrick, as we all went to town about you
>  in April. It was enough to make me unsubscribe, because I got so
>  caught up with it.
>  I don't get the enjoyment of it.
>
>  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Delongchamp"
>
>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >
>  > Personally, this is the most exciting thing I've seen since the
>  > Wikipedia Storm of '07.
>  >
>  > Heath, it's definitely a pattern I know and enjoy and Dennis, you may
>  > be right that it has very little to do with "Videoblogging" but it is
>  > very much "the videoblogging group." :)
>  >
>  > I always found it interesting to have an inside perspective of this
>  > medium's moguls. I doubt there's a Yahoo Group in which Rupert
>  > Murdoch contributes.
>  >
>  > As a side note to Andrew, I have to stand up for Steve here as he's
>  > often the voice of reason in this group and in a past experience had
>  > stood up for me and Wikipedia's core content policies when it was the
>  > very unpopular thing to do. However there is something to be said for
>  > for being concise in discussions. I once heard from a wise source:
>  > Posts longer than 100 words are difficult to understand and are
>  > frequently either ignored, misunderstood or misinterpreted.
>  >
>  > darn...151 words...now 156...
>  >
>
>  > On Nov 13, 2007 5:05 AM, Andrew Baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > On Nov 12, 2007, at 4:43 PM, Steve Watkins wrote:
>  > >
>  > > > So whilst I admired the fact that rocketboom didn't seem to be
>  > >
>  > > > selling out in the
>  > > > usual sense, for money, I became disturbed by some possible signs
>  > > > that Mr Baron was
>  > > > seeking to achieve a different sort of power.
>  > >
>  > > AH YES!!! Its all about power, mwahahahahaha! But what kind of
>  > > Power did you say!? A DIFFERENT kind?? M I like the sound of
>  > > this . . . . A NEW kind of Power! BETTER THAN MONEY!!!
>  > >
>  > > Speaking of power Steve, I dare you to not respond to a single thread
>  > > on this list. Ill bet you can't do it in under 5000 words.
>  > >
>  > > Speaking of Jason, he's most known for:
>  > >
>  > > 1. Stealing the idea and the people from Gizmodo to make the
>  > > identical knock off- Engagdget
>  > > 2. Not paying employees fair wages.
>  > > 3. Trying to steal Amanda from Rocketboom (only one day after news
>  > > broke)
>  > > 4. Trying to steal top posters from Digg for Netscape
>  > > 2. Killing Netscape by making it into a Diggclone and then getting
>  > > fired from AOL
>  > > 3. Building a site called Mahalo which is suffering badly and no one
>  > > likes.
>  > >
>  > > Not just based on these few examples which have been extremely
>  > > destructive to the world, but also based on his regular,
>  > > stereotypical activity of attacking people instead of their work, I
>  > > just want to throw out that Jason's only means of being popular is
>  > > exactly this: taking and causing conflict.
>  > >
>  > > Look no further than Ann Coulter. It works great for her. If they
>  > > can't do it based on their own good ideas and they cant do it while
>  > > collaborating with others, at least they can do it by shitting all
>  > > over everyone.
>  > >
>  > > Usually a good post has a lot of conversation but doesn't cause
>  > > others to speak out so negatively at the author. This is likely the
>  > > reason why there have been SO MANY bad reactions to Jason's post:
>  > > When one lives their life so selfishly while attacking and being
>  > > brutal, its destructive to everyone around because it causes damage
>  > > and rubs off on the rest off.
>  > >
>  > > My original answer to the original thread was likely not considered.
>  > > The best way to grow your audience is not by spamming everyone. Its
>  > > by improving your show. At this point Jason, you really shouldn't be
>  > > asking any other questions until you get that one worked out. You got
>  > > Veronica, she's great. You should be paying Veronica more, you need
>  > > to invest in some better equipment and get some production help. How
>  > > can you improve the show?
>  > >
>  > > We ask ourselves this question every single day and it continues to
>  > > receive the most concern out of every thing we do.
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  >
>
>
>
>  

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bored

[David Meade]

the forum idea has been passed around several times over the years ...
for some reason there was always resistance to it.  (I like the idea
too).

There are forum apps out there that have RSS feeds and can email you
new posts ... there'd be very little impact for anyone who wanted to
keep their email or rss view of the discussion.

eh .. so much seems to happen in twitter now-a-days .. but that sucks
for the newbies.

On Nov 13, 2007 2:28 PM, David Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's a real shame that this group never went the way of a "forum". Would 
> could have all
> those things you listed in different sections on the forum and then people 
> could post in
> the respective areas.
>
> Those looking for help wouldnt have to be inundated with things they have no 
> interest in
> and people that want to duke it out could do so off in a different area.
>
> Hindsight...
>
> David
> http://www.taoofdavid.com
> http://www.davidhowellstudios.com
>
>
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Jay dedman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >  We all get heated about issues - fine - but if people have got
> > >  something negative to say about another person, about their
> > >  motivations or anything that's likely to lead to a personal slanging
> > >  match, perhaps they could show us the courtesy of having their open
> > >  and frank discussion on a blog and linking to it here.
> >
> > andrew did blog it here: http://dembot.com/post/19305296
> > i hear you though. Substance in discussions is necessary.
> > We are trying to help each other do better than before.
> >
> > after one of the blow-ups last year, I made a list last year of what I
> > thought the Videoblogging list was for:
> > 1. help new people to start videoblogging
> > 2. discuss new tech and its implications
> > 3. discuss what we need...and build it!
> > 4. let new companies know what is expected community behavior (after
> > we agree what it is)
> > 5. discuss creator's rights
> > 6. gossip and fight
> >
> > we are certainly a chaotic crowd and "gossip and fight" is just a group 
> > dynamic.
> > doesnt mean we got to encourage or stand for itbut here we are.
> >
> > Jay
> >
> > --
> > http://jaydedman.com
> > 917 371 6790
> > Video: http://ryanishungry.com
> > Twitter: http://twitter.com/jaydedman
> > Photos: http://flickr.com/photos/jaydedman/
> > RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>



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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bored

[Jay dedman]

> It's a real shame that this group never went the way of a "forum". Would
> could have all
>  those things you listed in different sections on the forum and then people
> could post in
>  the respective areas.

yeah...we had these discussion over the years.
we all agreed that messages need to be in our inbox.
we would never go to a site to see what was posted.
many of us live in our email...and now twitter.

>  Those looking for help wouldnt have to be inundated with things they have
> no interest in
>  and people that want to duke it out could do so off in a different area.

especially after Gmail came out, I just put this list onto a filter.
conversations are threaded.
I ignore plenty.

Jay

-- 
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917 371 6790
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Twitter: http://twitter.com/jaydedman
Photos: http://flickr.com/photos/jaydedman/
RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9

[videoblogging] Re: Bored

[David Howell]

It's a real shame that this group never went the way of a "forum". Would could 
have all 
those things you listed in different sections on the forum and then people 
could post in 
the respective areas.

Those looking for help wouldnt have to be inundated with things they have no 
interest in 
and people that want to duke it out could do so off in a different area.

Hindsight...

David
http://www.taoofdavid.com
http://www.davidhowellstudios.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Jay dedman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >  We all get heated about issues - fine - but if people have got
> >  something negative to say about another person, about their
> >  motivations or anything that's likely to lead to a personal slanging
> >  match, perhaps they could show us the courtesy of having their open
> >  and frank discussion on a blog and linking to it here.
> 
> andrew did blog it here: http://dembot.com/post/19305296
> i hear you though. Substance in discussions is necessary.
> We are trying to help each other do better than before.
> 
> after one of the blow-ups last year, I made a list last year of what I
> thought the Videoblogging list was for:
> 1. help new people to start videoblogging
> 2. discuss new tech and its implications
> 3. discuss what we need...and build it!
> 4. let new companies know what is expected community behavior (after
> we agree what it is)
> 5. discuss creator's rights
> 6. gossip and fight
> 
> we are certainly a chaotic crowd and "gossip and fight" is just a group 
> dynamic.
> doesnt mean we got to encourage or stand for itbut here we are.
> 
> Jay
> 
> -- 
> http://jaydedman.com
> 917 371 6790
> Video: http://ryanishungry.com
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/jaydedman
> Photos: http://flickr.com/photos/jaydedman/
> RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9
>

Re: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo - the 12th

[David Meade]

yeah they make it so hard to find.  But here's their low-down on rss feeds:

http://www.youtube.com/rssls



-- 
http://www.DavidMeade.com

[videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo - the 12th

[Frank Sinton]

Hi Kath,

Yes, Mefeedia does pick up tags from YouTube videos. 

Since we don't spider/crawl (mefeedia is 100% user-submitted), your
YouTube user feed or a YouTube tag feed needs to be submitted to
Mefeedia first (YouTube does supply RSS feeds for each user, although
they don't publicize it - http://www.youtube.com/rss/user/[your
YouTube username]/videos.rss - and YouTube also has tag feeds -
http://youtube.com/rss/tag/[tag here].rss).

I just added the "Navlopomo07" YouTube tag feed to mefeedia:
http://mefeedia.com/feeds/26786/
(one annoying thing about YouTube feeds - they only go back 20 entries)

These are now part of the tag and tag feed. Thanks!

Regards,
-Frank

http://www.mefeedia.com/user/franks - What are you watching?


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Kath O'Donnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> just out of interest, does meefeedia pickup the navlopomo07 tags from
> the youtube videos also? or just the rss feeds? I tried to find some
> from there the other day but maybe I did something wrong. all the blip
> ones were there ok.
> 
> sorry if it's a dumb question - I can't d/l all the videos usually due
> to b/w limitations so usually just view a few via web. all I've seen
> have been great, but yes, it's hard to keep up with watching them all!
> 
> kath
> 
> 
> 
> >
> >  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Rupert Howe"  wrote:
> 
> >  >
> >  > The easiest and best way to get ALL the videos is to go to:
> >  >
> >  > http://www.mefeedia.com/tags/navlopomo07/
> >  >
> >  > That's the tag you should use for your vids: navlopomo07
> >  >
> >  > There are almost 500 videos there already. In 12 days.
> >  >
> >  >
> 
> -- 
> http://www.aliak.com
>

Re: [videoblogging] Bored

[Jay dedman]

>  We all get heated about issues - fine - but if people have got
>  something negative to say about another person, about their
>  motivations or anything that's likely to lead to a personal slanging
>  match, perhaps they could show us the courtesy of having their open
>  and frank discussion on a blog and linking to it here.

andrew did blog it here: http://dembot.com/post/19305296
i hear you though. Substance in discussions is necessary.
We are trying to help each other do better than before.

after one of the blow-ups last year, I made a list last year of what I
thought the Videoblogging list was for:
1. help new people to start videoblogging
2. discuss new tech and its implications
3. discuss what we need...and build it!
4. let new companies know what is expected community behavior (after
we agree what it is)
5. discuss creator's rights
6. gossip and fight

we are certainly a chaotic crowd and "gossip and fight" is just a group dynamic.
doesnt mean we got to encourage or stand for itbut here we are.

Jay

-- 
http://jaydedman.com
917 371 6790
Video: http://ryanishungry.com
Twitter: http://twitter.com/jaydedman
Photos: http://flickr.com/photos/jaydedman/
RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Advice on how to get to 100-250k views a day (quickly)?

[Frank Carver]

Tuesday, November 13, 2007, 1:34:37 PM, Rupert wrote:
> People will not watch shows on a computer.  Do you know anybody who
> watches anything on a computer?

I think it might be useful to distinguish between watching on a
computer, and watching on-line. I hardly ever watch anything on-line.
There's something about the in-web-page experience that simply does
not work for me.

On the other hand, I watch quite a lot on my computer screen. There
are a several reasons for this; here are a few I can think of right
now:

* The rest of my family would prefer to watch other stuff on the TV in
the lounge. Likewise I am not at all interested in watching kids
shows, soap operas and medical dramas. So we agree to differ, and I
get the PC.

* The stuff I want to watch is not available on regular TV. No, it's
not *that* sort of stuff. Mostly what I am interested in is either
independent internet video or old TV from the 1960s onwards - I have
been having great fun watching *all* the available episodes of "Doctor
Who" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_who ), for example. I'm
currently part way through Tom Baker ... To show that I'm not a
complete cheapskate I did buy a boxed set of "The Tomorrow People" (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tomorrow_People )

* I have become mildly addicted to the extra "meta" information you
can get when watching something in a PC media player. I get twitchy if
I can't glance at a progress indicator to see how far through I am,
and love the ability to pause and look up on the web something which
occurs to me while watching.

For these sorts of reasons, I'm not especially interested in a set top
box. We don't even have cable, satellite, or digital TV, so we only
get the regular five channels.

-- 
Frank Carver   http://www.makevideo.org.uk

[videoblogging] Re: Digital Hardrives/transfer issues

[Heath]

D'oh, again.sometimes you just can't see the forrest for the 
treesthanks!

Heath
http://batmangeek.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "David Howell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Heath
> 
> Before you format, try using WinZip to zip the files up and split 
them up into smaller files. 
> Take them off the USB stick/drive/whatever you are using then 
format the drive.
> 
> Hope that helps.
> 
> David
> http://www.taoofdavid.com
> http://www.davidhowellstudios.com
> 
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "David Meade"  
wrote:
> >
> > yeah. :(  Re-formatting it to NTFS will erase the stuff on there, 
so
> > you'll have to copy the good stuff elsewhere first.
> > 
> > I should also point out that there are apps out there to allow 
you to
> > access an NTFS drive on a Mac if push comes to shove.  (So don't 
feel
> > like NTFS means you'll never be able to plug it into a mac if you
> > absolutely had to.)
> > 
> > HFS+ is the similar 'no limit' filesystem on a Mac I believe and 
there
> > are apps to read these drives from within windows as well ... but 
in
> > general if you're expecting to use it in windows, go with NTFS.
> > 
> > - Dave
> > 
> > On Nov 13, 2007 1:46 PM, Heath  wrote:
> > > D'ohand I am guessing to reformat it, I would have to remove
> > > everything first and the re-format to NTFS, correct?
> > >
> > > fiddle sticks and fudge knuckles
> > >
> > > Heath
> > > http://batmangeek.com
> > >
> > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "David Meade" 

> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Your drive in question is probably formatted in the FAT32 file
> > > system.
> > > >  There is a 4GB filesize limitation in FAT32.
> > > >
> > > > If thats a serious problem for you, and you don't expect to 
be using
> > > > this external drive on a Mac or anything you could always 
reformat
> > > to
> > > > NTFS which does not have such a limit.  (well it technically 
does
> > > have
> > > > a limit but its some crazy-huge number well in excess of the 
size of
> > > > your drive and thus one that you wont ever hit)
> > > >
> > > > - Dave
> > > >
> > > > On Nov 13, 2007 12:58 PM, Heath  wrote:
> > > > > Speaking of hard drives, has this happened to anyone else,
> > > whenever I
> > > > > try and transfer a video file that is over 4 gigs or so, 
maybe 4.5
> > > > > gigs, my computer won't let me transfer it.  It says the 
file is
> > > in
> > > > > use, but it's not, it only happens with larger files and 
Robert
> > > it's a
> > > > > Seagate, so any ideas?
> > > > >
> > > > > I am running Windows media center 2005, and it's set up 
with a
> > > usb 2.0
> > > > > cable
> > > > >
> > > > > Heath
> > > > > http://batmangeek.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > http://www.DavidMeade.com
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > http://www.DavidMeade.com
> >
>

Re: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo - the 12th

[Kath O'Donnell]

great! thanks I'll try it when I get home tonight. thanks for the
explanation also.
(I hadn't even noticed youtube had an rss feed to be honest - I should
pay more attention to these things ;)

On Nov 13, 2007 9:10 PM, David Meade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> To go a bit more in depth with your question ...
>
>  If its got an RSS feed, MeFeedia can index it. If I were a
>  youtuber, I'd put my youtube rss feed into mefeedia just like I would
>  put my blip feed there if I were a blip user.
>
>  Some stuff just happens automagically, but if you've got a feed why
>  not add it to mefeedia and claim it in your profile to take credit!?
>  =D
>
>  For example... my YouTube username is "IndyVlogger" and thus my
>  YouTube feed is:
>
>  http://www.youtube.com/rss/user/IndyVlogger/videos.rss
>
>  I could add this feed into MeFeedia and claim it as my show in my
>  profile. (I could just rely on my videos coming in via YouTube's
>  recent posts view, popular posts view, tag views, etc ... but I prefer
>  to have my shows listed as their own defined thing)
>
>  - Dave
>
>
>  On Nov 13, 2007 1:52 PM, Kath O'Donnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  > just out of interest, does meefeedia pickup the navlopomo07 tags from
>  > the youtube videos also? or just the rss feeds? I tried to find some
>  > from there the other day but maybe I did something wrong. all the blip
>  > ones were there ok.
>  >
>  > sorry if it's a dumb question - I can't d/l all the videos usually due
>  > to b/w limitations so usually just view a few via web. all I've seen
>  > have been great, but yes, it's hard to keep up with watching them all!
>  >
>  > kath
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > >
>  > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Rupert Howe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
>  >
>  > > >
>  > > > The easiest and best way to get ALL the videos is to go to:
>  > > >
>  > > > http://www.mefeedia.com/tags/navlopomo07/
>  > > >
>  > > > That's the tag you should use for your vids: navlopomo07
>  > > >
>  > > > There are almost 500 videos there already. In 12 days.
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  >
>  > --
>  > http://www.aliak.com
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Yahoo! Groups Links
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>
>  --
>  http://www.DavidMeade.com
>  



-- 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo - the 12th

[David Meade]

To go a bit more in depth with your question ...

  If its got an RSS feed, MeFeedia can index it.  If I were a
youtuber, I'd put my youtube rss feed into mefeedia just like I would
put my blip feed there if I were a blip user.

  Some stuff just happens automagically, but if you've got a feed why
not add it to mefeedia and claim it in your profile to take credit!?
=D

For example... my YouTube username is "IndyVlogger"  and thus my
YouTube feed is:

  http://www.youtube.com/rss/user/IndyVlogger/videos.rss

I could add this feed into MeFeedia and claim it as my show in my
profile.  (I could just rely on my videos coming in via YouTube's
recent posts view, popular posts view, tag views, etc ... but I prefer
to have my shows listed as their own defined thing)

- Dave

On Nov 13, 2007 1:52 PM, Kath O'Donnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> just out of interest, does meefeedia pickup the navlopomo07 tags from
> the youtube videos also? or just the rss feeds? I tried to find some
> from there the other day but maybe I did something wrong. all the blip
> ones were there ok.
>
> sorry if it's a dumb question - I can't d/l all the videos usually due
> to b/w limitations so usually just view a few via web. all I've seen
> have been great, but yes, it's hard to keep up with watching them all!
>
> kath
>
>
>
> >
> >  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Rupert Howe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
>
> >  >
> >  > The easiest and best way to get ALL the videos is to go to:
> >  >
> >  > http://www.mefeedia.com/tags/navlopomo07/
> >  >
> >  > That's the tag you should use for your vids: navlopomo07
> >  >
> >  > There are almost 500 videos there already. In 12 days.
> >  >
> >  >
>
> --
> http://www.aliak.com
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>



-- 
http://www.DavidMeade.com

[videoblogging] Re: Advice on how to get to 100-250k views a day (quickly)?

[Steve Watkins]

That wikipedia debate appeared to kill what little goodwill and tolerance 
people showed 
towards me in the past. I was used to getting few replies to my posts, but 
since then I get 
virtually none, and my posts havent changed in length. I talk too much in the 
flesh too, its 
a part of me, Im stuck with it, wheras everyone in this group will eventually 
escape it when, 
one day, for whatever reasons, I dont post here anymore.

I dont think Im any sort of voice of reason. I have ideas about what a 
discussion should 
involve, what the boundaries & word count are, that do not appear to be the 
norm, which, 
along with various other social deformities, make me a general failure at being 
human, as 
my genital cobwebs will attest to.

Cheers

Steve Elbows

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Delongchamp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Personally, this is the most exciting thing I've seen since the
> Wikipedia Storm of '07.
> 
> Heath, it's definitely a pattern I know and enjoy and Dennis, you may
> be right that it has very little to do with "Videoblogging" but it is
> very much "the videoblogging group." :)
> 
> I always found it interesting to have an inside perspective of this
> medium's moguls.  I doubt there's a Yahoo Group in which Rupert
> Murdoch contributes.
> 
> As a side note to Andrew, I have to stand up for Steve here as he's
> often the voice of reason in this group and in a past experience had
> stood up for me and Wikipedia's core content policies when it was the
> very unpopular thing to do. However there is something to be said for
> for being concise in discussions. I once heard from a wise source:
> Posts longer than 100 words are difficult to understand and are
> frequently either ignored, misunderstood or misinterpreted.
> 
> darn...151 words...now 156...
> 
> On Nov 13, 2007 5:05 AM, Andrew Baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  On Nov 12, 2007, at 4:43 PM, Steve Watkins wrote:
> >
> >  > So whilst I admired the fact that rocketboom didn't seem to be
> >
> >  > selling out in the
> >  > usual sense, for money, I became disturbed by some possible signs
> >  > that Mr Baron was
> >  > seeking to achieve a different sort of power.
> >
> >  AH YES!!! Its all about power, mwahahahahaha! But what kind of
> >  Power did you say!? A DIFFERENT kind?? M I like the sound of
> >  this . . . . A NEW kind of Power! BETTER THAN MONEY!!!
> >
> >  Speaking of power Steve, I dare you to not respond to a single thread
> >  on this list. Ill bet you can't do it in under 5000 words.
> >
> >  Speaking of Jason, he's most known for:
> >
> >  1. Stealing the idea and the people from Gizmodo to make the
> >  identical knock off- Engagdget
> >  2. Not paying employees fair wages.
> >  3. Trying to steal Amanda from Rocketboom (only one day after news
> >  broke)
> >  4. Trying to steal top posters from Digg for Netscape
> >  2. Killing Netscape by making it into a Diggclone and then getting
> >  fired from AOL
> >  3. Building a site called Mahalo which is suffering badly and no one
> >  likes.
> >
> >  Not just based on these few examples which have been extremely
> >  destructive to the world, but also based on his regular,
> >  stereotypical activity of attacking people instead of their work, I
> >  just want to throw out that Jason's only means of being popular is
> >  exactly this: taking and causing conflict.
> >
> >  Look no further than Ann Coulter. It works great for her. If they
> >  can't do it based on their own good ideas and they cant do it while
> >  collaborating with others, at least they can do it by shitting all
> >  over everyone.
> >
> >  Usually a good post has a lot of conversation but doesn't cause
> >  others to speak out so negatively at the author. This is likely the
> >  reason why there have been SO MANY bad reactions to Jason's post:
> >  When one lives their life so selfishly while attacking and being
> >  brutal, its destructive to everyone around because it causes damage
> >  and rubs off on the rest off.
> >
> >  My original answer to the original thread was likely not considered.
> >  The best way to grow your audience is not by spamming everyone. Its
> >  by improving your show. At this point Jason, you really shouldn't be
> >  asking any other questions until you get that one worked out. You got
> >  Veronica, she's great. You should be paying Veronica more, you need
> >  to invest in some better equipment and get some production help. How
> >  can you improve the show?
> >
> >  We ask ourselves this question every single day and it continues to
> >  receive the most concern out of every thing we do.
> >
> >
> >  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo - the 12th

[David Meade]

yeah it picks up youtube tags as well.  I've been following
shelbinatorTV (a youtube poster)  via mefeedia for example.

Here's an example:
  http://www.mefeedia.com/entry/navlopomo-9-sleep-1-insomnia-0/4319118/



On Nov 13, 2007 1:52 PM, Kath O'Donnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> just out of interest, does meefeedia pickup the navlopomo07 tags from
> the youtube videos also? or just the rss feeds? I tried to find some
> from there the other day but maybe I did something wrong. all the blip
> ones were there ok.
>
> sorry if it's a dumb question - I can't d/l all the videos usually due
> to b/w limitations so usually just view a few via web. all I've seen
> have been great, but yes, it's hard to keep up with watching them all!
>
> kath
>
>
>
> >
> >  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Rupert Howe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
>
> >  >
> >  > The easiest and best way to get ALL the videos is to go to:
> >  >
> >  > http://www.mefeedia.com/tags/navlopomo07/
> >  >
> >  > That's the tag you should use for your vids: navlopomo07
> >  >
> >  > There are almost 500 videos there already. In 12 days.
> >  >
> >  >
>
> --
> http://www.aliak.com
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>



-- 
http://www.DavidMeade.com

[videoblogging] Re: Digital Hardrives/transfer issues

[Steve Watkins]

You can do a conversion to NTFS that doesnt destroy data:

http://www.aumha.org/win5/a/ntfscvt.php

But theres a small but real risk of something going wrong with the conversion, 
so its wise 
to backup everything, but this sort of defeats the advantage of converting.

Cheers

Steve Elbows

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "David Meade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> yeah. :(  Re-formatting it to NTFS will erase the stuff on there, so
> you'll have to copy the good stuff elsewhere first.
> 
> I should also point out that there are apps out there to allow you to
> access an NTFS drive on a Mac if push comes to shove.  (So don't feel
> like NTFS means you'll never be able to plug it into a mac if you
> absolutely had to.)
> 
> HFS+ is the similar 'no limit' filesystem on a Mac I believe and there
> are apps to read these drives from within windows as well ... but in
> general if you're expecting to use it in windows, go with NTFS.
> 
> - Dave
> 
> On Nov 13, 2007 1:46 PM, Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > D'ohand I am guessing to reformat it, I would have to remove
> > everything first and the re-format to NTFS, correct?
> >
> > fiddle sticks and fudge knuckles
> >
> > Heath
> > http://batmangeek.com
> >
> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "David Meade" 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Your drive in question is probably formatted in the FAT32 file
> > system.
> > >  There is a 4GB filesize limitation in FAT32.
> > >
> > > If thats a serious problem for you, and you don't expect to be using
> > > this external drive on a Mac or anything you could always reformat
> > to
> > > NTFS which does not have such a limit.  (well it technically does
> > have
> > > a limit but its some crazy-huge number well in excess of the size of
> > > your drive and thus one that you wont ever hit)
> > >
> > > - Dave
> > >
> > > On Nov 13, 2007 12:58 PM, Heath  wrote:
> > > > Speaking of hard drives, has this happened to anyone else,
> > whenever I
> > > > try and transfer a video file that is over 4 gigs or so, maybe 4.5
> > > > gigs, my computer won't let me transfer it.  It says the file is
> > in
> > > > use, but it's not, it only happens with larger files and Robert
> > it's a
> > > > Seagate, so any ideas?
> > > >
> > > > I am running Windows media center 2005, and it's set up with a
> > usb 2.0
> > > > cable
> > > >
> > > > Heath
> > > > http://batmangeek.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > http://www.DavidMeade.com
> >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> http://www.DavidMeade.com
>

[videoblogging] Re: Digital Hardrives/transfer issues

[David Howell]

Heath

Before you format, try using WinZip to zip the files up and split them up into 
smaller files. 
Take them off the USB stick/drive/whatever you are using then format the drive.

Hope that helps.

David
http://www.taoofdavid.com
http://www.davidhowellstudios.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "David Meade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> yeah. :(  Re-formatting it to NTFS will erase the stuff on there, so
> you'll have to copy the good stuff elsewhere first.
> 
> I should also point out that there are apps out there to allow you to
> access an NTFS drive on a Mac if push comes to shove.  (So don't feel
> like NTFS means you'll never be able to plug it into a mac if you
> absolutely had to.)
> 
> HFS+ is the similar 'no limit' filesystem on a Mac I believe and there
> are apps to read these drives from within windows as well ... but in
> general if you're expecting to use it in windows, go with NTFS.
> 
> - Dave
> 
> On Nov 13, 2007 1:46 PM, Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > D'ohand I am guessing to reformat it, I would have to remove
> > everything first and the re-format to NTFS, correct?
> >
> > fiddle sticks and fudge knuckles
> >
> > Heath
> > http://batmangeek.com
> >
> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "David Meade" 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Your drive in question is probably formatted in the FAT32 file
> > system.
> > >  There is a 4GB filesize limitation in FAT32.
> > >
> > > If thats a serious problem for you, and you don't expect to be using
> > > this external drive on a Mac or anything you could always reformat
> > to
> > > NTFS which does not have such a limit.  (well it technically does
> > have
> > > a limit but its some crazy-huge number well in excess of the size of
> > > your drive and thus one that you wont ever hit)
> > >
> > > - Dave
> > >
> > > On Nov 13, 2007 12:58 PM, Heath  wrote:
> > > > Speaking of hard drives, has this happened to anyone else,
> > whenever I
> > > > try and transfer a video file that is over 4 gigs or so, maybe 4.5
> > > > gigs, my computer won't let me transfer it.  It says the file is
> > in
> > > > use, but it's not, it only happens with larger files and Robert
> > it's a
> > > > Seagate, so any ideas?
> > > >
> > > > I am running Windows media center 2005, and it's set up with a
> > usb 2.0
> > > > cable
> > > >
> > > > Heath
> > > > http://batmangeek.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > http://www.DavidMeade.com
> >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> http://www.DavidMeade.com
>

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Digital Hardrives/transfer issues

[David Meade]

yeah. :(  Re-formatting it to NTFS will erase the stuff on there, so
you'll have to copy the good stuff elsewhere first.

I should also point out that there are apps out there to allow you to
access an NTFS drive on a Mac if push comes to shove.  (So don't feel
like NTFS means you'll never be able to plug it into a mac if you
absolutely had to.)

HFS+ is the similar 'no limit' filesystem on a Mac I believe and there
are apps to read these drives from within windows as well ... but in
general if you're expecting to use it in windows, go with NTFS.

- Dave

On Nov 13, 2007 1:46 PM, Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> D'ohand I am guessing to reformat it, I would have to remove
> everything first and the re-format to NTFS, correct?
>
> fiddle sticks and fudge knuckles
>
> Heath
> http://batmangeek.com
>
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "David Meade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > Your drive in question is probably formatted in the FAT32 file
> system.
> >  There is a 4GB filesize limitation in FAT32.
> >
> > If thats a serious problem for you, and you don't expect to be using
> > this external drive on a Mac or anything you could always reformat
> to
> > NTFS which does not have such a limit.  (well it technically does
> have
> > a limit but its some crazy-huge number well in excess of the size of
> > your drive and thus one that you wont ever hit)
> >
> > - Dave
> >
> > On Nov 13, 2007 12:58 PM, Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Speaking of hard drives, has this happened to anyone else,
> whenever I
> > > try and transfer a video file that is over 4 gigs or so, maybe 4.5
> > > gigs, my computer won't let me transfer it.  It says the file is
> in
> > > use, but it's not, it only happens with larger files and Robert
> it's a
> > > Seagate, so any ideas?
> > >
> > > I am running Windows media center 2005, and it's set up with a
> usb 2.0
> > > cable
> > >
> > > Heath
> > > http://batmangeek.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > http://www.DavidMeade.com
>
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>



-- 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo - the 12th

[Kath O'Donnell]

just out of interest, does meefeedia pickup the navlopomo07 tags from
the youtube videos also? or just the rss feeds? I tried to find some
from there the other day but maybe I did something wrong. all the blip
ones were there ok.

sorry if it's a dumb question - I can't d/l all the videos usually due
to b/w limitations so usually just view a few via web. all I've seen
have been great, but yes, it's hard to keep up with watching them all!

kath



>
>  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Rupert Howe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:

>  >
>  > The easiest and best way to get ALL the videos is to go to:
>  >
>  > http://www.mefeedia.com/tags/navlopomo07/
>  >
>  > That's the tag you should use for your vids: navlopomo07
>  >
>  > There are almost 500 videos there already. In 12 days.
>  >
>  >

-- 
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[videoblogging] Re: Advice on how to get to 100-250k views a day (quickly)?

[Rupert Howe]

I'm amazed that you like it Patrick, as we all went to town about you
in April.  It was enough to make me unsubscribe, because I got so
caught up with it.
I don't get the enjoyment of it.

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Delongchamp"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Personally, this is the most exciting thing I've seen since the
> Wikipedia Storm of '07.
> 
> Heath, it's definitely a pattern I know and enjoy and Dennis, you may
> be right that it has very little to do with "Videoblogging" but it is
> very much "the videoblogging group." :)
> 
> I always found it interesting to have an inside perspective of this
> medium's moguls.  I doubt there's a Yahoo Group in which Rupert
> Murdoch contributes.
> 
> As a side note to Andrew, I have to stand up for Steve here as he's
> often the voice of reason in this group and in a past experience had
> stood up for me and Wikipedia's core content policies when it was the
> very unpopular thing to do. However there is something to be said for
> for being concise in discussions. I once heard from a wise source:
> Posts longer than 100 words are difficult to understand and are
> frequently either ignored, misunderstood or misinterpreted.
> 
> darn...151 words...now 156...
> 
> On Nov 13, 2007 5:05 AM, Andrew Baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  On Nov 12, 2007, at 4:43 PM, Steve Watkins wrote:
> >
> >  > So whilst I admired the fact that rocketboom didn't seem to be
> >
> >  > selling out in the
> >  > usual sense, for money, I became disturbed by some possible signs
> >  > that Mr Baron was
> >  > seeking to achieve a different sort of power.
> >
> >  AH YES!!! Its all about power, mwahahahahaha! But what kind of
> >  Power did you say!? A DIFFERENT kind?? M I like the sound of
> >  this . . . . A NEW kind of Power! BETTER THAN MONEY!!!
> >
> >  Speaking of power Steve, I dare you to not respond to a single thread
> >  on this list. Ill bet you can't do it in under 5000 words.
> >
> >  Speaking of Jason, he's most known for:
> >
> >  1. Stealing the idea and the people from Gizmodo to make the
> >  identical knock off- Engagdget
> >  2. Not paying employees fair wages.
> >  3. Trying to steal Amanda from Rocketboom (only one day after news
> >  broke)
> >  4. Trying to steal top posters from Digg for Netscape
> >  2. Killing Netscape by making it into a Diggclone and then getting
> >  fired from AOL
> >  3. Building a site called Mahalo which is suffering badly and no one
> >  likes.
> >
> >  Not just based on these few examples which have been extremely
> >  destructive to the world, but also based on his regular,
> >  stereotypical activity of attacking people instead of their work, I
> >  just want to throw out that Jason's only means of being popular is
> >  exactly this: taking and causing conflict.
> >
> >  Look no further than Ann Coulter. It works great for her. If they
> >  can't do it based on their own good ideas and they cant do it while
> >  collaborating with others, at least they can do it by shitting all
> >  over everyone.
> >
> >  Usually a good post has a lot of conversation but doesn't cause
> >  others to speak out so negatively at the author. This is likely the
> >  reason why there have been SO MANY bad reactions to Jason's post:
> >  When one lives their life so selfishly while attacking and being
> >  brutal, its destructive to everyone around because it causes damage
> >  and rubs off on the rest off.
> >
> >  My original answer to the original thread was likely not considered.
> >  The best way to grow your audience is not by spamming everyone. Its
> >  by improving your show. At this point Jason, you really shouldn't be
> >  asking any other questions until you get that one worked out. You got
> >  Veronica, she's great. You should be paying Veronica more, you need
> >  to invest in some better equipment and get some production help. How
> >  can you improve the show?
> >
> >  We ask ourselves this question every single day and it continues to
> >  receive the most concern out of every thing we do.
> >
> >
> >  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>

[videoblogging] Re: Digital Hardrives/transfer issues

[Heath]

D'ohand I am guessing to reformat it, I would have to remove 
everything first and the re-format to NTFS, correct?

fiddle sticks and fudge knuckles

Heath
http://batmangeek.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "David Meade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Your drive in question is probably formatted in the FAT32 file 
system.
>  There is a 4GB filesize limitation in FAT32.
> 
> If thats a serious problem for you, and you don't expect to be using
> this external drive on a Mac or anything you could always reformat 
to
> NTFS which does not have such a limit.  (well it technically does 
have
> a limit but its some crazy-huge number well in excess of the size of
> your drive and thus one that you wont ever hit)
> 
> - Dave
> 
> On Nov 13, 2007 12:58 PM, Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Speaking of hard drives, has this happened to anyone else, 
whenever I
> > try and transfer a video file that is over 4 gigs or so, maybe 4.5
> > gigs, my computer won't let me transfer it.  It says the file is 
in
> > use, but it's not, it only happens with larger files and Robert 
it's a
> > Seagate, so any ideas?
> >
> > I am running Windows media center 2005, and it's set up with a 
usb 2.0
> > cable
> >
> > Heath
> > http://batmangeek.com
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> http://www.DavidMeade.com
>

[videoblogging] Bored

[Rupert Howe]

Yeah, Jay, discussions are one thing, but I'm bored of watching
interesting discussions turn into personal slanging matches.

It poisons threads and kills discussion.

I know some of us seem to like it, and some of us just can't stop
watching.  There's a familiar discussion on Twitter - people asking
themselves why they still subscribe to this list - "it's like a car
wreck".  That saddens me.

We all get heated about issues - fine - but if people have got
something negative to say about another person, about their
motivations or anything that's likely to lead to a personal slanging
match, perhaps they could show us the courtesy of having their open
and frank discussion on a blog and linking to it here.  

Maybe that will make this list more 'boring' - but personally, I'm
much more bored of watching people going to the toilet on each other
when I want to talk about videoblogging.

Yours rather po-facedly,

Rupert
http://twittervlog.tv/
http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Advice on how to get to 100-250k views a day (quickly)?

[Patrick Delongchamp]

Personally, this is the most exciting thing I've seen since the
Wikipedia Storm of '07.

Heath, it's definitely a pattern I know and enjoy and Dennis, you may
be right that it has very little to do with "Videoblogging" but it is
very much "the videoblogging group." :)

I always found it interesting to have an inside perspective of this
medium's moguls.  I doubt there's a Yahoo Group in which Rupert
Murdoch contributes.

As a side note to Andrew, I have to stand up for Steve here as he's
often the voice of reason in this group and in a past experience had
stood up for me and Wikipedia's core content policies when it was the
very unpopular thing to do. However there is something to be said for
for being concise in discussions. I once heard from a wise source:
Posts longer than 100 words are difficult to understand and are
frequently either ignored, misunderstood or misinterpreted.

darn...151 words...now 156...

On Nov 13, 2007 5:05 AM, Andrew Baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  On Nov 12, 2007, at 4:43 PM, Steve Watkins wrote:
>
>  > So whilst I admired the fact that rocketboom didn't seem to be
>
>  > selling out in the
>  > usual sense, for money, I became disturbed by some possible signs
>  > that Mr Baron was
>  > seeking to achieve a different sort of power.
>
>  AH YES!!! Its all about power, mwahahahahaha! But what kind of
>  Power did you say!? A DIFFERENT kind?? M I like the sound of
>  this . . . . A NEW kind of Power! BETTER THAN MONEY!!!
>
>  Speaking of power Steve, I dare you to not respond to a single thread
>  on this list. Ill bet you can't do it in under 5000 words.
>
>  Speaking of Jason, he's most known for:
>
>  1. Stealing the idea and the people from Gizmodo to make the
>  identical knock off- Engagdget
>  2. Not paying employees fair wages.
>  3. Trying to steal Amanda from Rocketboom (only one day after news
>  broke)
>  4. Trying to steal top posters from Digg for Netscape
>  2. Killing Netscape by making it into a Diggclone and then getting
>  fired from AOL
>  3. Building a site called Mahalo which is suffering badly and no one
>  likes.
>
>  Not just based on these few examples which have been extremely
>  destructive to the world, but also based on his regular,
>  stereotypical activity of attacking people instead of their work, I
>  just want to throw out that Jason's only means of being popular is
>  exactly this: taking and causing conflict.
>
>  Look no further than Ann Coulter. It works great for her. If they
>  can't do it based on their own good ideas and they cant do it while
>  collaborating with others, at least they can do it by shitting all
>  over everyone.
>
>  Usually a good post has a lot of conversation but doesn't cause
>  others to speak out so negatively at the author. This is likely the
>  reason why there have been SO MANY bad reactions to Jason's post:
>  When one lives their life so selfishly while attacking and being
>  brutal, its destructive to everyone around because it causes damage
>  and rubs off on the rest off.
>
>  My original answer to the original thread was likely not considered.
>  The best way to grow your audience is not by spamming everyone. Its
>  by improving your show. At this point Jason, you really shouldn't be
>  asking any other questions until you get that one worked out. You got
>  Veronica, she's great. You should be paying Veronica more, you need
>  to invest in some better equipment and get some production help. How
>  can you improve the show?
>
>  We ask ourselves this question every single day and it continues to
>  receive the most concern out of every thing we do.
>
>
>  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>  

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Digital Hardrives/transfer issues

[David Meade]

Your drive in question is probably formatted in the FAT32 file system.
 There is a 4GB filesize limitation in FAT32.

If thats a serious problem for you, and you don't expect to be using
this external drive on a Mac or anything you could always reformat to
NTFS which does not have such a limit.  (well it technically does have
a limit but its some crazy-huge number well in excess of the size of
your drive and thus one that you wont ever hit)

- Dave

On Nov 13, 2007 12:58 PM, Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Speaking of hard drives, has this happened to anyone else, whenever I
> try and transfer a video file that is over 4 gigs or so, maybe 4.5
> gigs, my computer won't let me transfer it.  It says the file is in
> use, but it's not, it only happens with larger files and Robert it's a
> Seagate, so any ideas?
>
> I am running Windows media center 2005, and it's set up with a usb 2.0
> cable
>
> Heath
> http://batmangeek.com
>
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>



-- 
http://www.DavidMeade.com

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Advice on how to get to 100-250k views a day (quickly)?

[Jay dedman]

On Nov 13, 2007 9:03 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's funny.
> I was just saying to myself the other day how well this group has
> been getting along and how we have really been sharing ideas.
> Now it's back to this tit for tat stuff.
> Oh well, conflict does build interest and this public display of
> venom is entertaining.

every four months or so we have a big blowup that ends up in a 100
message thread.
It seems to let us all revisit the themes we keep going deeper into.
Three years ago we were all just talking from what we hoped would
happen, now we've helped make it real.
we're all getting more experienced so I find the conversations more
and more interesting.

Jay

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Advice on how to get to 100-250k views a day (quickly)?

[Brook Hinton]

When I hear the phrase "the industry" I reach for my



Brook Hinton
film/video/audio art
www.brookhinton.com
studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab

Re: [videoblogging] Re: bad Western Digital Hardrives?

[Brook Hinton]

It's so random. OWC has the worst track record in my studio and with
my clients, though I haven't used their most recent enclosures. The
message is THEY WILL ALL FAIL eventually. All of them. For pretty much
every brand, someone will have had one stay up for 6 years while
another person will have had 3 drives fail within a year. Follow the
precautionary steps and whatever drive it is it will last longer at
least.

Another thing - they're not all equal in terms of using them for
video. One of the reasons I've continued to use LaCie, despite
failures, is consistently good performance (e.g., playing back real
time previews in FCP of multi-layer sequences with effects without
dropping frames). But that's ony the D2s, and only if formatted HFS+.

Again, G-Tech has the rep right now, but they're young, and I still
would not rely on ANY solution as rock solid.

Brook


___
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www.brookhinton.com
studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab

[videoblogging] Re: Digital Hardrives/transfer issues

[Heath]

Speaking of hard drives, has this happened to anyone else, whenever I 
try and transfer a video file that is over 4 gigs or so, maybe 4.5 
gigs, my computer won't let me transfer it.  It says the file is in 
use, but it's not, it only happens with larger files and Robert it's a 
Seagate, so any ideas?

I am running Windows media center 2005, and it's set up with a usb 2.0 
cable

Heath
http://batmangeek.com



> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Re: [videoblogging] Re: bad Western Digital Hardrives?

[John Oeffinger]

The only one I have found that works well with Video and doesn't fail  
on a Mac is OWC's drives.I  have several and they are solid.

With Leopard's Time Machine, the back up is a breeze.

On Nov 13, 2007, at 11:20 AM, RANDY MANN wrote:

> they all suck
> ive done in maxtors,wd lacis
>
> they all will fiail.
>
> back up your data folks
>



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[videoblogging] Re: bad Western Digital Hardrives?

[Paul Knight]

I love my Lacie's and ould never buy anything else, I swear by them.

Luv and Peace


Paul Knight

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Advice on how to get to 100-250k views a day (quickly)?

[Roxanne Darling]

In the good news bad news department:

Good news: this thread has brought out some discussion

Bad news: it ends up being about personal/business disagreements.

In the FWIW Department:

Beach Walks with Rox has a 60% male 40% female audience, over 95% of
whom have completed some college. Our peeps are a curious mix of young
techie guys and older retired couples. Many tell us they watch at home
with the family as well as at work to chill out - even whole teams
watch and discuss the daily topics sometime. We have beautiful
scenery, thoughtful topics (environment, Hawaiiana,  relationships,
music, occasional tech, travel), and the most common response we get
is that people feel better (clearer, less stressed, "head on square")
after watching. We even have an adorable (if not "sexy") black lab,
Lexi!

We are confused why our audience hasn't grown bigger faster. Some
things just don't make sense yet - as there is so much disruption
going on. There is not a formula on the planet that is guaranteed to
work.  IMO, you gots to enjoy the process as at the end of the day,
that's what you got.

Aloha,

Rox


-- 
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"o ke kai" means "of the sea" in hawaiian
808-384-5554
Video --> http://www.beachwalks.tv
Company -- > http://www.barefeetstudios.com
http://www.twitter.com/roxannedarling

On Nov 13, 2007 6:51 AM, Eric Rice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Besides, how ever did we get along with major blockbuster motion
>  pictures and indie films? How did college radio kick ass in the abyss
>  of Clear Channel.
>
>  Do numbers actually matter?
>
>  ER
>
>  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Adam Quirk, Wreck & Salvage"
>
>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >
>  > So what we should really be asking is, "How do I get on TV?"
>  >
>  > BRB...loading pistol.
>  >
>  > I agree with most of this though. When I started doing this a few years
>  > ago, that question would have sounded like the antithesis of what
>  everyone
>  > was trying to accomplish, trying to break into a walled garden. Now it
>  > sounds more like a utilitarian question, like "How do I get my
>  enclosures to
>  > show up in iTunes?" That said, the television world has a lot to
>  lose by
>  > letting the huddled masses in under their tent. I doubt the TV+Netvideo
>  > marriage going to happen as soon as people think.
>  >
>  > AQ
>  >
>
>  > On Nov 13, 2007 11:22 AM, Eric Rice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >
>  > > One current project I haven't talked too much about has to do with
>  > > delivering audio and video content to set-top boxes, not those novelty
>  > > ones like slingboxes and such, but more of the XBOX, Playstation and
>  > > Wii (two of which have Opera-based browsing with Flash support, two
>  > > have hard drives and such). The audience is there. It's hard, but the
>  > > audience is there. Will we collectively be willing to do the hard work
>  > > to get the audience, or do we want the half-assed tech ethic of 'slap
>  > > that crap together and pray'.
>  > >
>  > > That said, I believe certain content has advantages over others. Do a
>  > > show about gaming, sex, cars or any of the 'religious' topics, and it
>  > > will help. I'd love to know what the Escapist's video 'Zero
>  > > Punctuation' gets as far as traffic because it's so painfully funny.
>  > > Want to make money and get a huge audience? Do a Justin Timberlake
>  > > fancast. There's a reason that MuggleCast and others are hits. Ironic,
>  > > really.
>  > >
>  > > I also will support (but not like) the idea that hot chicks and TV
>  > > training help. Look at some of the big shows. Then flip a coin. Of
>  > > course there will be exceptions, and we can deconstruct all day, but
>  > > when we do that, we're not quite normal, are we? When Amanda and
>  > > Rocketboom split, you could almost scientifically see the gaps in how
>  > > the content (and her) were perceived based on closeness to the
>  > > epicenter (we were s smart and intellectual on this list, and in
>  > > the distant blogosphere it was 'uh, what?' and in the mass space (USA
>  > > Today blog comments) it was flat out retarded.
>  > >
>  > > I'm still waiting for good hi-definition content come out of this
>  > > spacem, because I, like many fat bloated americans, enjoy sitting on
>  > > my ass in front of my home theater (this goes totally against the
>  > > indiepunkish ethos of 'well I don't owwn a television', etc) and
>  > > having my ears tantalized in 7.1 surround sound.
>  > >
>  > > There are three types of content I adore-- Video, video and sometimes
>  > > video. Sometimes it's on YouTube, sometimes it's buried in a forum
>  > > someplace, and other times, it comes from a TV studio or DVD (my god I
>  > > love Entourage, don't you?).
>  > >
>  > > We are the Content Creation Class-- we're kinda different than
>  > > everyone else (read: consumers). But damn, how does your audio podcast
>  > > compete with the non-interface of turning on satellite radio in the
>  > > car? 

RE: [videoblogging] bad Western Digital Hardrives?

[Robert Scoble]

If you had bought Seagate drives I could have gotten you help. Sorry.

 

Robert Scoble

 

  _  

From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Lisa Rein
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 9:28 AM
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] bad Western Digital Hardrives?

 

i've had bad luck with western digital, consistently, personally.

we also had trouble with them at widehive records a few years ago (like 3
times in a row) and stopped using anything but LaCie.

Haven't seen g-raid before...will consider...but i've had good luck with
lacies i guess (knock on metal)

lisa

> I've made DVD and HDV Tape back ups as well cause that VP of
> Marketing's words keep ringing in my head.
>
> Tim
>
> Tim Street
> Creator/Executive Producer
> French Maid TV
> The Viral Video of "How To's" by French Maids
> http://frenchmaidtv  .com
> Subscribe for FREE at: http://www.frenchma
 idtv.com/itunes
>
> MY BLOG: http://1timstreet. 
blogspot.com/
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 13, 2007, at 9:16 AM, John Coffey wrote:
>
>> Thanks Tim, time to back up many hours of HD Eye TV
>> content off my Lacie ASAP
>>
>> --- "[EMAIL PROTECTED]  com"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]  com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I've lost MANY Lacie drives and when I walked up to
>> > the VP of
>> > Marketing for Lacie at Macworld and told him his
>> > answer was, "It's
>> > only a matter of time until one of our drives fails.
>> > "
>> >
>> > I then walked over to the G-Tech booth and I have
>> > been very happy
>> > with the G-Raid products ever since.
>> >
>> > I have 25 G-Tech drives. The other day I thought one
>> > of them had gone
>> > down on me but then I noticed it wasn't plugged in
>> > to the AC outlet.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Tim
>> >
>> > Tim Street
>> > Creator/Executive Producer
>> > French Maid TV
>> > The Viral Video of "How To's" by French Maids
>> > http://frenchmaidtv  .com
>> > Subscribe for FREE at:
>> > http://www.frenchma 
idtv.com/itunes
>> >
>> > MY BLOG: http://1timstreet. 
blogspot.com/
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Nov 13, 2007, at 7:22 AM, John Coffey wrote:
>> >
>> > > I think I read either here or on Twitter that Bill
>> > > Streeter had 3 harddrives go bad last week. I'm
>> > > starting to find that my Western Digital WD HD's
>> > don't
>> > > show up on the desktop. And one of them had smoke
>> > > coming out like a toaster. Any other thoughts on
>> > these
>> > > "always on sale at Best Buy" clunkers. I'm gonna
>> > spend
>> > > the $ on reliable LaCie.
>> > > John
>> > >
>> > > Jimmy CraicHead TVVideo Podcast about Sailing,
>> > Travel, Craic and
>> > > Cocktails www.jchtv.com
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> __
>> > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page.
>> > > http://www.yahoo.  com/r/hs
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
>> > removed]
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >
>> >
>> > mailto:videoblogging-

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Jimmy CraicHead TVVideo Podcast about Sailing, Travel, Craic and
>> Cocktails www.jchtv.com
>>
>> __
>> Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you
>> with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now.http://mobile.
http://mobile.yahoo.com/> yahoo.com/
>> sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ
>>
>>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Lisa Rein

http://onlisareinsr  adar.com
http://www.lisarein  .com

 



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Re: [videoblogging] bad Western Digital Hardrives?

[Scott McNulty]

You do have to keep in mind that hard drives, at least ones most
people can afford at the moment, have lots of moving parts.  Those
moving parts are all... well.. moving whenever you access data off
those drives.

No matter what manufacturer you get your drives from it isn't a matter
of if the drive will fail, but when.  Anyone that tells you
differently is flat out lying.

Solid state memory is changing all of that, but it is still very very
expensive and doesn't come in capacities that DV require.

That being said I've been very happy with my WD drives.

On Nov 13, 2007 12:28 PM, Lisa Rein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i've had bad luck with western digital, consistently, personally.
>
> we also had trouble with them at widehive records a few years ago (like 3
> times in a row) and stopped using anything but LaCie.
>
> Haven't seen g-raid before...will consider...but i've had good luck with
> lacies i guess (knock on metal)
>
> lisa
>
>
> > I've made DVD and HDV Tape back ups as well cause that VP of
> > Marketing's words keep ringing in my head.
> >
> > Tim
> >
> > Tim Street
> > Creator/Executive Producer
> > French Maid TV
> > The Viral Video of "How To's" by French Maids
> > http://frenchmaidtv.com
> > Subscribe for FREE at: http://www.frenchmaidtv.com/itunes
> >
> > MY BLOG: http://1timstreet.blogspot.com/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Nov 13, 2007, at 9:16 AM, John Coffey wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks Tim, time to back up many hours of HD Eye TV
> >> content off my Lacie ASAP
> >>
> >> --- "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I've lost MANY Lacie drives and when I walked up to
> >> > the VP of
> >> > Marketing for Lacie at Macworld and told him his
> >> > answer was, "It's
> >> > only a matter of time until one of our drives fails.
> >> > "
> >> >
> >> > I then walked over to the G-Tech booth and I have
> >> > been very happy
> >> > with the G-Raid products ever since.
> >> >
> >> > I have 25 G-Tech drives. The other day I thought one
> >> > of them had gone
> >> > down on me but then I noticed it wasn't plugged in
> >> > to the AC outlet.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Tim
> >> >
> >> > Tim Street
> >> > Creator/Executive Producer
> >> > French Maid TV
> >> > The Viral Video of "How To's" by French Maids
> >> > http://frenchmaidtv.com
> >> > Subscribe for FREE at:
> >> > http://www.frenchmaidtv.com/itunes
> >> >
> >> > MY BLOG: http://1timstreet.blogspot.com/
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Nov 13, 2007, at 7:22 AM, John Coffey wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > I think I read either here or on Twitter that Bill
> >> > > Streeter had 3 harddrives go bad last week. I'm
> >> > > starting to find that my Western Digital WD HD's
> >> > don't
> >> > > show up on the desktop. And one of them had smoke
> >> > > coming out like a toaster. Any other thoughts on
> >> > these
> >> > > "always on sale at Best Buy" clunkers. I'm gonna
> >> > spend
> >> > > the $ on reliable LaCie.
> >> > > John
> >> > >
> >> > > Jimmy CraicHead TVVideo Podcast about Sailing,
> >> > Travel, Craic and
> >> > > Cocktails www.jchtv.com
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> __
> >> > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page.
> >> > > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> >> > removed]
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> Jimmy CraicHead TVVideo Podcast about Sailing, Travel, Craic and
> >> Cocktails www.jchtv.com
> >>
> >> __
> >> Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you
> >> with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now.http://mobile.yahoo.com/
> >> sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> Lisa Rein
>
> http://onlisareinsradar.com
> http://www.lisarein.com
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>



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Re: [videoblogging] bad Western Digital Hardrives?

[Lisa Rein]

i've had bad luck with western digital, consistently, personally.

we also had trouble with them at widehive records a few years ago (like 3
times in a row) and stopped using anything but LaCie.

Haven't seen g-raid before...will consider...but i've had good luck with
lacies i guess (knock on metal)

lisa

> I've made DVD and HDV Tape back ups as well cause that VP of
> Marketing's words keep ringing in my head.
>
> Tim
>
> Tim Street
> Creator/Executive Producer
> French Maid TV
> The Viral Video of “How To’s” by French Maids
> http://frenchmaidtv.com
> Subscribe for FREE at: http://www.frenchmaidtv.com/itunes
>
> MY BLOG: http://1timstreet.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 13, 2007, at 9:16 AM, John Coffey wrote:
>
>> Thanks Tim, time to back up many hours of HD Eye TV
>> content off my Lacie ASAP
>>
>> --- "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I've lost MANY Lacie drives and when I walked up to
>> > the VP of
>> > Marketing for Lacie at Macworld and told him his
>> > answer was, "It's
>> > only a matter of time until one of our drives fails.
>> > "
>> >
>> > I then walked over to the G-Tech booth and I have
>> > been very happy
>> > with the G-Raid products ever since.
>> >
>> > I have 25 G-Tech drives. The other day I thought one
>> > of them had gone
>> > down on me but then I noticed it wasn't plugged in
>> > to the AC outlet.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Tim
>> >
>> > Tim Street
>> > Creator/Executive Producer
>> > French Maid TV
>> > The Viral Video of “How To’s” by French Maids
>> > http://frenchmaidtv.com
>> > Subscribe for FREE at:
>> > http://www.frenchmaidtv.com/itunes
>> >
>> > MY BLOG: http://1timstreet.blogspot.com/
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Nov 13, 2007, at 7:22 AM, John Coffey wrote:
>> >
>> > > I think I read either here or on Twitter that Bill
>> > > Streeter had 3 harddrives go bad last week. I'm
>> > > starting to find that my Western Digital WD HD's
>> > don't
>> > > show up on the desktop. And one of them had smoke
>> > > coming out like a toaster. Any other thoughts on
>> > these
>> > > "always on sale at Best Buy" clunkers. I'm gonna
>> > spend
>> > > the $ on reliable LaCie.
>> > > John
>> > >
>> > > Jimmy CraicHead TVVideo Podcast about Sailing,
>> > Travel, Craic and
>> > > Cocktails www.jchtv.com
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> __
>> > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page.
>> > > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
>> > removed]
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >
>> >
>> > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Jimmy CraicHead TVVideo Podcast about Sailing, Travel, Craic and
>> Cocktails www.jchtv.com
>>
>> __
>> Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you
>> with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now.http://mobile.yahoo.com/
>> sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ
>>
>>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>


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http://onlisareinsradar.com
http://www.lisarein.com

[videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo - the 12th

[Frank Sinton]

We are working on a threaded view based on activity. Initial looks at
it are pretty cool. We also have a new search in the works which will
track video responses / trackbacks right in the mefeedia video page.
Third, i'd love to have widget tools (similar to what Flickr does for
images) to be able to syndicate the tracking to your blog/vlog. We are
in middle of development now (hopefully some will be ready for the 2nd
half of NaVloPoMo), so if you have suggestions, we will try to
incorporate as much as we can.

Regards,
-Frank

http://www.mefeedia.com/user/franks - What are you watching?

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Rupert Howe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Susan,
> 
> Sorry, I meant to say in my last email but got distracted by Kate
> looking over my shoulder saying, "Who's SUSAN?"
> 
> The easiest and best way to get ALL the videos is to go to:
> 
> http://www.mefeedia.com/tags/navlopomo07/
> 
> That's the tag you should use for your vids: navlopomo07
> 
> There are almost 500 videos there already.  In 12 days.  
> 
> And you can scan easily and watch randomly.
> 
> As Cheryl said to me, though - don't try and catch up yet - just start
> watching from here on in.  We've got another 18 days to go.
> 
> The main reason we used the NaBloPoMo Ning group this year rather than
> setting up something separate was that it was already set up and ready
> to go by Eden Kennedy for the text Nablopomo, so we just piggybacked
> on it, after deciding to do it a couple of days before.  And we
> thought it might help introduce other NaBloPoMo people to video
blogging.
> 
> I'm not too confused by it, so I don't mind using it in conjunction
> with Mefeedia - but it would be good to think of better ways to do it
> in future.  If anybody has any ideas...?
> 
> Rupert
> http://twittervlog.tv/
> http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/
> 
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
> >
> > I love the concept, I just hope next year we use something other than
> > Ning...
> > 
> > How about technorati, or blip, or other tagging services? Is anyone
> > viewing videos just by looking for the "navlopomo" tag?
> > 
> > Susan
> > 
> > 
> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey Susan,
> > > Hurray! Great you're in, too. It's been amazing, so far.
> > > Sorry you found it confusing, but I think it will get pretty  
> > > confusing and fragmented if we post here.
> > > Just go to:
> > > http://nablopomo.ning.com/group/videobloggers
> > > There are discussion threads that say:
> > > Navlopomo Day 12 Videos
> > > or Navlopomo Day 11 Videos
> > > or Navlopomo Day 10
> > > etc
> > > Click on those and post your video for that day in that thread.   
> > > You'll see that everyone else has just posted their videos for
that  
> > > day there in a big scrolling list.
> > > Use the Blip share code for Myspace to embed your video into your  
> > > message, and give your post link so that people can comment.
> > > Can't wait to see - but am already so far behind in my viewing...
> > > Rupert
> > > http://twittervlog.tv/
> > > http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 12 Nov 2007, at 21:25, Susan wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hi folks, long time no talk! I'm still around.
> > > 
> > > Made a new video each of the past 3 days, in fact... you've got to
> > > check out the one called "SAT," I've been wanting to do that for a
> > > long time.
> > > 
> > > http://vlog.kitykity.com
> > > 
> > > Anyways, I know this is NaBloPoMo, and I know this Ning site has
been
> > > set up...
> > > http://nablopomo.ning.com/group/videobloggers
> > > ...and forgive me if I'm dense, but that site is SUPER confusing
> to me.
> > > 
> > > Has anyone thought of posting their videos here? Maybe just reply to
> > > this post today, and give us a direct link to your video for
this day,
> > > the 12th...
> > > 
> > > Here's mine...
> > > http://www.kitykity.com/vlog/?p=412
> > > 
> > > Susan
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>

Re: [videoblogging] bad Western Digital Hardrives?

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

I've made DVD and HDV Tape back ups as well cause that VP of  
Marketing's words keep ringing in my head.

Tim

Tim Street
Creator/Executive Producer
French Maid TV
The Viral Video of “How To’s” by French Maids
http://frenchmaidtv.com
Subscribe for FREE at: http://www.frenchmaidtv.com/itunes

MY BLOG: http://1timstreet.blogspot.com/






On Nov 13, 2007, at 9:16 AM, John Coffey wrote:

> Thanks Tim, time to back up many hours of HD Eye TV
> content off my Lacie ASAP
>
> --- "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > I've lost MANY Lacie drives and when I walked up to
> > the VP of
> > Marketing for Lacie at Macworld and told him his
> > answer was, "It's
> > only a matter of time until one of our drives fails.
> > "
> >
> > I then walked over to the G-Tech booth and I have
> > been very happy
> > with the G-Raid products ever since.
> >
> > I have 25 G-Tech drives. The other day I thought one
> > of them had gone
> > down on me but then I noticed it wasn't plugged in
> > to the AC outlet.
> >
> >
> >
> > Tim
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> > > starting to find that my Western Digital WD HD's
> > don't
> > > show up on the desktop. And one of them had smoke
> > > coming out like a toaster. Any other thoughts on
> > these
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: bad Western Digital Hardrives?

[RANDY MANN]

they all suck
ive done in maxtors,wd lacis

they all will fiail.

back up your data folks

On Nov 13, 2007 12:04 PM, Brook Hinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I can also confirm that so far G-Technology's drives have a pretty
>  good record with my clients and others I know who use them. Probably
>  the only company making externals that I haven't heard complaints
>  about.
>  --
>
>  ___
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>
>  

Re: [videoblogging] bad Western Digital Hardrives?

[John Coffey]

Thanks Tim, time to back up many hours of HD Eye TV
content off my Lacie ASAP

--- "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> I've lost MANY Lacie drives and when I walked up to
> the VP of  
> Marketing for Lacie at Macworld and told him his
> answer was, "It's  
> only a matter of time until one of our drives fails.
> "
> 
> I then walked over to the G-Tech booth and I have
> been very happy  
> with the G-Raid products ever since.
> 
> I have 25 G-Tech drives. The other day I thought one
> of them had gone  
> down on me but then I noticed it wasn't plugged in
> to the AC outlet.
> 
> 
> 
> Tim
> 
> Tim Street
> Creator/Executive Producer
> French Maid TV
> The Viral Video of “How To’s” by French Maids
> http://frenchmaidtv.com
> Subscribe for FREE at:
> http://www.frenchmaidtv.com/itunes
> 
> MY BLOG: http://1timstreet.blogspot.com/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 13, 2007, at 7:22 AM, John Coffey wrote:
> 
> > I think I read either here or on Twitter that Bill
> > Streeter had 3 harddrives go bad last week. I'm
> > starting to find that my Western Digital WD HD's
> don't
> > show up on the desktop. And one of them had smoke
> > coming out like a toaster. Any other thoughts on
> these
> > "always on sale at Best Buy" clunkers. I'm gonna
> spend
> > the $ on reliable LaCie.
> > John
> >
> > Jimmy CraicHead TVVideo Podcast about Sailing,
> Travel, Craic and  
> > Cocktails www.jchtv.com
> >
> >
>
__
> > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page.
> > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
> >
> > 
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Re: [videoblogging] bad Western Digital Hardrives?

[John Coffey]

Thanks Brook and I must say, I rarely did any of the
precautions you posted.

--- Brook Hinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> There is no such thing as a truly reliable external
> firewire drive,
> sadly. Though I've had better luck with LaCies then
> with some other
> brands.
> 
> Laptop users remember!
> 
> TURN ON THE COMPUTER BEFORE CONNECTING THE DRIVE
> TURN ON THE DRIVE (if that's an option) BEFORE
> CONNECTING
> CONNECT AND WAIT FOR MOUNTING before launching FCP
> or whatever.
> EJECT/DISMOUNT the drive before disconnecting << most important one
> DISCONNECT before shutting down, sleeping.
> 
> And remember FW400 connectors are super super
> fragile despite their
> appearance. Plug and unplug carefully. Pull straight
> out/push straight
> in. This goes for the little camera ports too.
> 
> Most drive failures come from repeated "live"
> disconnects and
> shutdowns. The next culprit in line is bent/tweaked
> firewire ports,
> then burned out firewire ports.
> 
> (of course there are variations other will swear by,
> but the dismount
> before disconnect or shutdown/sleep is absolutely
> crucial to getting
> any longevity out of the drive at all).
> 
> Brook
> 
> 
> p.s. the best advice: switch to eSATA as soon as you
> can.
>
___
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> www.brookhinton.com
> studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab
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[videoblogging] Re: Advice on how to get to 100-250k views a day (quickly)?

[Rupert Howe]

Looking into swirling tea leaves, I see the future of this
discussion... on a blog!

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I am seeing the posts rolling in now about taking this off list as I  
> am just about to publish the below. I'd like to go ahead and publish  
> it, I think its relevant. It has to do with videoblogging, blogging,  
> history of the space and people who are involved:
> 
> On Nov 13, 2007, at 10:50 AM, Jason McCabe Calacanis wrote:
> 
> > Oh boy... I probably shouldn't even respond to something so libelous.
> > However, this is so false I've got to correct it.
> >
> > > 1. Stealing the idea and the people from Gizmodo to make the
> > > identical knock off- Engagdget
> >
> > False.
> >
> >
> 
> The point I was trying to make though, is that you didn't do anything  
> innovative or new, you just take one thing and clone it exactly the  
> same. This is fine Jason, Im just saying you do business by knocking- 
> off others. This is not interesting to me and I have found in my life  
> that people who do this are usually selfish at the expense of others.
> 
> > > 2. Not paying employees fair wages.
> >
> > False.
> >
> 
> 
> But you write: "better than or as good as Denton"
> 
> I rest my case.
> 
> 
> >
> >
> >
> > > 3. Trying to steal Amanda from Rocketboom (only one day after news
> > > broke)
> >
> > False.
> >
> >
> > Are people not allowed to make offers? Would you rather talented folks
> > not get offers when they've achieved success? After working for you
> > should Amanda never work again? I'm confused.
> 
> Your confused because you don't seem to have any understanding of the  
> social element.  Its just really rude and not supportive, Jason. Its  
> selfish because you always think you have so much more to offer and  
> in that case you knew nothing at all about what was going on or who  
> we were. Imagine that the news broke that you and your wife were  
> having problems and then the next day, your business partner called  
> her up for a date. Yea, I know, this is not about love affairs, but  
> there is a social element involved and you have repeatedly shown  
> disrespect for others who are participating and trying to get along  
> in the same space.
> 
> 
> >
> > > 4. Trying to steal top posters from Digg for Netscape
> >
> > False.
> >
> 
> I beg to differ. After a long history of cloning other peoples idea,  
> I think its true that you not only tried to clone digg and failed  
> miserably, but also had the audacity to goto Digg to try to sway away  
> the top posters (for miserable salary no less). Again, you didn't  
> understand the social, but by this time, it was the online social you  
> didn't understand. What happened in the end? People revolted against  
> you for trying to "rip of digg" (these are not my words), the site  
> crashed and burned and now you are gone. Say what you will about  
> quitting, its a great self-defense. I know people who have a history  
> of saying they were fired when they quit and saying they quit when  
> they were fired. I guess its just a coincidence that the project you  
> had suggested turned to crap right at the same time.
> 
> 
> 
> > > 3. Building a site called Mahalo which is suffering badly and no one
> > > likes.
> >
> > The 1.5 million unique who've come in the last 30 days (our fifth
> > month) might disagree with you. :-)
> >
> 
> Out of 1.5 million, where are the positive reviews? I have never seen  
> a single positive review of Mahalo. Ever. I know you must have a few  
> Jason, can you point us to a really good review of Mahalo by someone  
> who really understands the space? Just one good one - there must be one?
> 
> 
> > In terms of Veronica you can be sure she has a much better deal than
> > the one she had at CNET. You can also be sure she has much more
> > resources behind her than ever.
> >
> 
> Great. More salary than Nick Denton pays, and better salary than  
> CNET. Not exactly something to boast about. So why are you the one  
> here doing the work?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Re: [videoblogging] Re: bad Western Digital Hardrives?

[Brook Hinton]

I can also confirm that so far G-Technology's drives have a pretty
good record with my clients and others I know who use them. Probably
the only company making externals that I haven't heard complaints
about.
-- 
___
Brook Hinton
film/video/audio art
www.brookhinton.com
studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Advice on how to get to 100-250k views a day (quickly)?

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

It's funny.

I was just saying to myself the other day how well this group has  
been getting along and how we have really been sharing ideas.

Now it's back to this tit for tat stuff.

Oh well, conflict does build interest and this public display of  
venom is entertaining.

I just hope it does some good for the industry. In the past these  
public feuds have derailed people from concentrating on their  
creative endeavors and it's just waisted energy.

Speaking of "Feuds" and people from this group.

NewTeeVee is going to have a Live Family Feud style gameshow tomorrow  
night with a few people you may have heard of.

http://live.newteevee.com/gameshow



Tim

Tim Street
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On Nov 13, 2007, at 7:50 AM, Jason McCabe Calacanis wrote:

> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Speaking of Jason, he's most known for:
>
> Oh boy... I probably shouldn't even respond to something so libelous.
> However, this is so false I've got to correct it.
>
> > 1. Stealing the idea and the people from Gizmodo to make the
> > identical knock off- Engagdget
>
> False.
>
> I didn't steal the idea because the idea was Peter Rojas'. Nick Denton
> back Peter's idea first in the form of Gizmodo, we (the weblogs, Inc
> team) backed it second in the form of Engadget.
>
> For background, I offered Peter Rojas equity in Weblogs, Inc. and he
> gladly left his ~$1,200 a month job with Nick Denton at Gizmodo. Nick
> Denton promised Peter equity and never gave it him, we did. We
> invested our own money into Engadget which quickly--thanks to Peter
> and his team--grew to 3x the size of the incumbent Gizmodo.
>
> We sold Weblogs, Inc. (and without getting into exact details) Peter
> became a millionaire over night.
>
> > 2. Not paying employees fair wages.
>
> False.
>
> What are you basing this on? We paid hundreds of folks at Weblogs,
> Inc. per month well over six figures for years. We paid the best rates
> in the blogging business (better than or as good as Denton depending
> on the time). When AOL bought Weblogs, Inc. we hired around 20-30
> folks full-time.
>
>
> > 3. Trying to steal Amanda from Rocketboom (only one day after news
> > broke)
>
> False.
>
> How could we steal her if she left? She was a free agent and looking
> for work. AOL really wanted to hire her so we made her an offer (a
> very nice large offer). She took another large offer from ABC's.
>
> Are people not allowed to make offers? Would you rather talented folks
> not get offers when they've achieved success? After working for you
> should Amanda never work again? I'm confused.
>
> > 4. Trying to steal top posters from Digg for Netscape
>
> False.
>
> We offered the top posters from digg pay for work they had previously
> not been paid for. We paid ~40 of them to work on Netscape/Propeller
> doing things like putting in high-quality stories, taking our false
> stories and spam, and cleaning up the mess that is social news
> sometimes. It was a really good idea and Propeller is the second
> largest social news site in the world.
>
> > 2. Killing Netscape by making it into a Diggclone and then getting
> > fired from AOL
>
> False.
>
> Jon Miller the CEO of AOL was fired and I left in solidarity within 24
> hours. That's how I do I'm loyal. I started working with a fairly
> well known venture capital firm with ten days of that.
>
> Netscape was being shutdown when folks at AOL asked me what I'd do
> with it. I said I would build an editorialized version of digg where
> the news was fact-checked. We did, it worked. The only reason they
> moved it to it's own domain--from what I've been told--is that it is
> more valuable with a new name (i.e. in terms of a sale) and that
> redirecting Netscape's audience to AOL.com is highly profitable
> because AOL.COM is the most profitable part of the empire (and social
> news sites have a harder time making money).
>
> > 3. Building a site called Mahalo which is suffering badly and no one
> > likes.
>
> The 1.5 million uniques who've come in the last 30 days (our fifth
> month) might disagree with you. :-)
>
> In terms of Veronica you can be sure she has a much better deal than
> the one she had at CNET. You can also be sure she has much more
> resources behind her than ever.
>
> Good luck with that second show.
>
> all the best j
>
>
> 



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[videoblogging] Re: bad Western Digital Hardrives?

[Rupert Howe]

Yeah. I've lost 3 Lacie Drives.
Just bought another.  Needed one in a hurry.  It was all they had.
I am an idiot.
Don't buy Lacie.

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> I've lost MANY Lacie drives and when I walked up to the VP of  
> Marketing for Lacie at Macworld and told him his answer was, "It's  
> only a matter of time until one of our drives fails. "
> 
> I then walked over to the G-Tech booth and I have been very happy  
> with the G-Raid products ever since.
> 
> I have 25 G-Tech drives. The other day I thought one of them had gone  
> down on me but then I noticed it wasn't plugged in to the AC outlet.
> 
> 
> 
> Tim
> 
> Tim Street
> Creator/Executive Producer
> French Maid TV
> The Viral Video of "How To's" by French Maids
> http://frenchmaidtv.com
> Subscribe for FREE at: http://www.frenchmaidtv.com/itunes
> 
> MY BLOG: http://1timstreet.blogspot.com/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 13, 2007, at 7:22 AM, John Coffey wrote:
> 
> > I think I read either here or on Twitter that Bill
> > Streeter had 3 harddrives go bad last week. I'm
> > starting to find that my Western Digital WD HD's don't
> > show up on the desktop. And one of them had smoke
> > coming out like a toaster. Any other thoughts on these
> > "always on sale at Best Buy" clunkers. I'm gonna spend
> > the $ on reliable LaCie.
> > John
> >
> > Jimmy CraicHead TVVideo Podcast about Sailing, Travel, Craic and  
> > Cocktails www.jchtv.com
> >
> > __
> > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page.
> > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
> >
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Advice on how to get to 100-250k views a day (quickly)?

[John Coffey]

Jason. do I read this correctly? Somebody left a
$1,200 job for you? I'm hoping this wasn't a full time
job because that is so poverty level. Bring him up to
say $1,400 per month?

--- Jason McCabe Calacanis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Baron
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Speaking of Jason, he's most known for: 
> 
> Oh boy... I probably shouldn't even respond to
> something so libelous.
> However, this is so false I've got to correct it.
> 
> 
> > 1. Stealing the idea and the people from Gizmodo
> to make the  
> > identical knock off- Engagdget
> 
> False. 
> 
> I didn't steal the idea because the idea was Peter
> Rojas'. Nick Denton
> back Peter's idea first in the form of Gizmodo, we
> (the weblogs, Inc
> team) backed it second in the form of Engadget. 
> 
> For background, I offered Peter Rojas equity in
> Weblogs, Inc. and he
> gladly left his ~$1,200 a month job with Nick Denton
> at Gizmodo. Nick
> Denton promised Peter equity and never gave it him,
> we did. We
> invested our own money into Engadget which
> quickly--thanks to Peter
> and his team--grew to 3x the size of the incumbent
> Gizmodo. 
> 
> We sold Weblogs, Inc. (and without getting into
> exact details) Peter
> became a millionaire over night. 
> 
> 
> > 2. Not paying employees fair wages.
> 
> False. 
> 
> What are you basing this on? We paid hundreds of
> folks at Weblogs,
> Inc. per month well over six figures for years. We
> paid the best rates
> in the blogging business (better than or as good as
> Denton depending
> on the time). When AOL bought Weblogs, Inc. we hired
> around 20-30
> folks full-time. 
>   
> 
> > 3. Trying to steal Amanda from Rocketboom (only
> one day after news  
> > broke)
> 
> False. 
> 
> How could we steal her if she left? She was a free
> agent and looking
> for work. AOL really wanted to hire her so we made
> her an offer (a
> very nice large offer). She took another large offer
> from ABC's. 
> 
> Are people not allowed to make offers? Would you
> rather talented folks
> not get offers when they've achieved success? After
> working for you
> should Amanda never work again? I'm confused. 
> 
> 
> > 4. Trying to steal top posters from Digg for
> Netscape
> 
> False. 
> 
> We offered the top posters from digg pay for work
> they had previously
> not been paid for. We paid ~40 of them to work on
> Netscape/Propeller
> doing things like putting in high-quality stories,
> taking our false
> stories and spam, and cleaning up the mess that is
> social news
> sometimes. It was a really good idea and Propeller
> is the second
> largest social news site in the world.
> 
> 
> > 2. Killing Netscape by making it into a Diggclone
> and then getting  
> > fired from AOL
> 
> False.
> 
> Jon Miller the CEO of AOL was fired and I left in
> solidarity within 24
> hours. That's how I do I'm loyal. I started
> working with a fairly
> well known venture capital firm with ten days of
> that. 
> 
> Netscape was being shutdown when folks at AOL asked
> me what I'd do
> with it. I said I would build an editorialized
> version of digg where
> the news was fact-checked. We did, it worked. The
> only reason they
> moved it to it's own domain--from what I've been
> told--is that it is
> more valuable with a new name (i.e. in terms of a
> sale) and that
> redirecting Netscape's audience to AOL.com is highly
> profitable
> because AOL.COM is the most profitable part of the
> empire (and social
> news sites have a harder time making money). 
> 
> > 3. Building a site called Mahalo which is
> suffering badly and no one  
> > likes.
> 
> The 1.5 million uniques who've come in the last 30
> days (our fifth
> month) might disagree with you. :-)
> 
> In terms of Veronica you can be sure she has a much
> better deal than
> the one she had at CNET. You can also be sure she
> has much more
> resources behind her than ever.
> 
> Good luck with that second show.
> 
> all the best j
> 
> 


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[videoblogging] Re: Advice on how to get to 100-250k views a day (quickly)?

[Rupert Howe]

I totally agree.  And whatever we think about TV content here, the
must-have gadget for rich Westerners is a huge flat & wide HD TV. 

And I think that, uh, 'indiepunk' content can be in HD.

I'd love my N93 to have HD resolution instead of 640x480.  I want to
shoot daily Twittervlog anarchy in HD.  The new Xactis have FULL HD -
1980x1020 with 1.5hrs on an 8Gig SD card, and they're not much bigger
than my N93.  If they had good built-in editor and wifi like the
N93/N95, I'd switch in a heartbeat.  There's definitely an audience
out there already with set top boxes like AppleTV, who want to watch
stuff that fills their massive screens and thumps on their massive
speakers.  (The stereo sound is already pretty good on my N93,
especially considering it's a phone).  I want to pump their asses full
of rough & ready videoblog madness, instead of condemning them to a
lifetime of slickly produced tech shows and lame staged comedy.

Let me know what happens with your set top box project.

Rupert
http://twittervlog.tv/
http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog
 
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Eric Rice" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> I'm still waiting for good hi-definition content come out of this
> spacem, because I, like many fat bloated americans, enjoy sitting on
> my ass in front of my home theater (this goes totally against the
> indiepunkish ethos of 'well I don't owwn a television', etc) and
> having my ears tantalized in 7.1 surround sound.
> 
> There are three types of content I adore-- Video, video and sometimes
> video. Sometimes it's on YouTube, sometimes it's buried in a forum
> someplace, and other times, it comes from a TV studio or DVD (my god I
> love Entourage, don't you?).
> 
> We are the Content Creation Class-- we're kinda different than
> everyone else (read: consumers). But damn, how does your audio podcast
> compete with the non-interface of turning on satellite radio in the
> car? Apples to Oranges, and our risk for elitism just *hates* that
> kind of reality. :)
> 
> ER
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert  wrote:
> >
> >  > On 13 Nov 2007, at 11:38, Bill Cammack wrote:
> >  > I wondered how to drag all of those people, aimlessly streaming  
> > past me, into viewing an online show.
> > 
> > ---
> > 
> > Set top box.  That's the only way you'll get people watching online  
> > shows.  I don't know if you use the term 'set top box' in the US.  I  
> > just mean a box that plugs into your TV.  One that'd allow people to  
> > watch ordinary network shows on their widescreen tv and also surf  
> > internet TV.
> > 
> > People will not watch shows on a computer.  Do you know anybody who  
> > watches anything on a computer?  Other than the odd bored moment  
> > surfing old TV shows on Youtube?  My friends and family will watch
my  
> > videoblog, mostly because I've forced them to by subscribing them
via  
> > email, but they won't then go on to watch any of the vlogs I link
to,  
> > or click on the URLs of people who comment.
> > 
> > Computers are full of distractions, and are quite hard things to use  
> > if you want to concentrate on or relax to motion picture  
> > entertainment.  The TV / Couch combo works.  I firmly believe it's  
> > just a matter of someone bringing internet video to the couch. 
Until  
> > then, forget it.
> > 
> > Rupert
> > http://twittervlog.tv/
> > http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

[videoblogging] Re: Advice on how to get to 100-250k views a day (quickly)?

[Eric Rice]

Besides, how ever did we get along with major blockbuster motion
pictures and indie films? How did college radio kick ass in the abyss
of Clear Channel.

Do numbers actually matter?

ER

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Adam Quirk, Wreck & Salvage"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> So what we should really be asking is, "How do I get on TV?"
> 
> BRB...loading pistol.
> 
> I agree with most of this though.  When I started doing this a few years
> ago, that question would have sounded like the antithesis of what
everyone
> was trying to accomplish, trying to break into a walled garden.  Now it
> sounds more like a utilitarian question, like "How do I get my
enclosures to
> show up in iTunes?"  That said, the television world has a lot to
lose by
> letting the huddled masses in under their tent.  I doubt the TV+Netvideo
> marriage going to happen as soon as people think.
> 
> AQ
> 
> On Nov 13, 2007 11:22 AM, Eric Rice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > One current project I haven't talked too much about has to do with
> > delivering audio and video content to set-top boxes, not those novelty
> > ones like slingboxes and such, but more of the XBOX, Playstation and
> > Wii (two of which have Opera-based browsing with Flash support, two
> > have hard drives and such). The audience is there. It's hard, but the
> > audience is there. Will we collectively be willing to do the hard work
> > to get the audience, or do we want the half-assed tech ethic of 'slap
> > that crap together and pray'.
> >
> > That said, I believe certain content has advantages over others. Do a
> > show about gaming, sex, cars or any of the 'religious' topics, and it
> > will help. I'd love to know what the Escapist's video 'Zero
> > Punctuation' gets as far as traffic because it's so painfully funny.
> > Want to make money and get a huge audience? Do a Justin Timberlake
> > fancast. There's a reason that MuggleCast and others are hits. Ironic,
> > really.
> >
> > I also will support (but not like) the idea that hot chicks and TV
> > training help. Look at some of the big shows. Then flip a coin. Of
> > course there will be exceptions, and we can deconstruct all day, but
> > when we do that, we're not quite normal, are we? When Amanda and
> > Rocketboom split, you could almost scientifically see the gaps in how
> > the content (and her) were perceived based on closeness to the
> > epicenter (we were s smart and intellectual on this list, and in
> > the distant blogosphere it was 'uh, what?' and in the mass space (USA
> > Today blog comments) it was flat out retarded.
> >
> > I'm still waiting for good hi-definition content come out of this
> > spacem, because I, like many fat bloated americans, enjoy sitting on
> > my ass in front of my home theater (this goes totally against the
> > indiepunkish ethos of 'well I don't owwn a television', etc) and
> > having my ears tantalized in 7.1 surround sound.
> >
> > There are three types of content I adore-- Video, video and sometimes
> > video. Sometimes it's on YouTube, sometimes it's buried in a forum
> > someplace, and other times, it comes from a TV studio or DVD (my god I
> > love Entourage, don't you?).
> >
> > We are the Content Creation Class-- we're kinda different than
> > everyone else (read: consumers). But damn, how does your audio podcast
> > compete with the non-interface of turning on satellite radio in the
> > car? Apples to Oranges, and our risk for elitism just *hates* that
> > kind of reality. :)
> >
> > ER
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert  wrote:
> > >
> > >  > On 13 Nov 2007, at 11:38, Bill Cammack wrote:
> > >  > I wondered how to drag all of those people, aimlessly streaming
> > > past me, into viewing an online show.
> > >
> > > ---
> > >
> > > Set top box.  That's the only way you'll get people watching online
> > > shows.  I don't know if you use the term 'set top box' in the US.  I
> > > just mean a box that plugs into your TV.  One that'd allow people to
> > > watch ordinary network shows on their widescreen tv and also surf
> > > internet TV.
> > >
> > > People will not watch shows on a computer.  Do you know anybody who
> > > watches anything on a computer?  Other than the odd bored moment
> > > surfing old TV shows on Youtube?  My friends and family will
watch my
> > > videoblog, mostly because I've forced them to by subscribing
them via
> > > email, but they won't then go on to watch any of the vlogs I
link to,
> > > or click on the URLs of people who comment.
> > >
> > > Computers are full of distractions, and are quite hard things to use
> > > if you want to concentrate on or relax to motion picture
> > > entertainment.  The TV / Couch combo works.  I firmly believe it's
> > > just a matter of someone bringing internet video to the couch. 
Until
> > > then, forget it.
> > >
> > > Rupert
> > > http://twittervlog.tv/
> > > http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this 

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Advice on how to get to 100-250k views a day (quickly)?

[Andrew Baron]

I am seeing the posts rolling in now about taking this off list as I  
am just about to publish the below. I'd like to go ahead and publish  
it, I think its relevant. It has to do with videoblogging, blogging,  
history of the space and people who are involved:

On Nov 13, 2007, at 10:50 AM, Jason McCabe Calacanis wrote:

> Oh boy... I probably shouldn't even respond to something so libelous.
> However, this is so false I've got to correct it.
>
> > 1. Stealing the idea and the people from Gizmodo to make the
> > identical knock off- Engagdget
>
> False.
>
>

The point I was trying to make though, is that you didn't do anything  
innovative or new, you just take one thing and clone it exactly the  
same. This is fine Jason, Im just saying you do business by knocking- 
off others. This is not interesting to me and I have found in my life  
that people who do this are usually selfish at the expense of others.

> > 2. Not paying employees fair wages.
>
> False.
>


But you write: "better than or as good as Denton"

I rest my case.


>
>
>
> > 3. Trying to steal Amanda from Rocketboom (only one day after news
> > broke)
>
> False.
>
>
> Are people not allowed to make offers? Would you rather talented folks
> not get offers when they've achieved success? After working for you
> should Amanda never work again? I'm confused.

Your confused because you don't seem to have any understanding of the  
social element.  Its just really rude and not supportive, Jason. Its  
selfish because you always think you have so much more to offer and  
in that case you knew nothing at all about what was going on or who  
we were. Imagine that the news broke that you and your wife were  
having problems and then the next day, your business partner called  
her up for a date. Yea, I know, this is not about love affairs, but  
there is a social element involved and you have repeatedly shown  
disrespect for others who are participating and trying to get along  
in the same space.


>
> > 4. Trying to steal top posters from Digg for Netscape
>
> False.
>

I beg to differ. After a long history of cloning other peoples idea,  
I think its true that you not only tried to clone digg and failed  
miserably, but also had the audacity to goto Digg to try to sway away  
the top posters (for miserable salary no less). Again, you didn't  
understand the social, but by this time, it was the online social you  
didn't understand. What happened in the end? People revolted against  
you for trying to "rip of digg" (these are not my words), the site  
crashed and burned and now you are gone. Say what you will about  
quitting, its a great self-defense. I know people who have a history  
of saying they were fired when they quit and saying they quit when  
they were fired. I guess its just a coincidence that the project you  
had suggested turned to crap right at the same time.



> > 3. Building a site called Mahalo which is suffering badly and no one
> > likes.
>
> The 1.5 million unique who've come in the last 30 days (our fifth
> month) might disagree with you. :-)
>

Out of 1.5 million, where are the positive reviews? I have never seen  
a single positive review of Mahalo. Ever. I know you must have a few  
Jason, can you point us to a really good review of Mahalo by someone  
who really understands the space? Just one good one - there must be one?


> In terms of Veronica you can be sure she has a much better deal than
> the one she had at CNET. You can also be sure she has much more
> resources behind her than ever.
>

Great. More salary than Nick Denton pays, and better salary than  
CNET. Not exactly something to boast about. So why are you the one  
here doing the work?





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Re: [videoblogging] bad Western Digital Hardrives?

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I've lost MANY Lacie drives and when I walked up to the VP of  
Marketing for Lacie at Macworld and told him his answer was, "It's  
only a matter of time until one of our drives fails. "

I then walked over to the G-Tech booth and I have been very happy  
with the G-Raid products ever since.

I have 25 G-Tech drives. The other day I thought one of them had gone  
down on me but then I noticed it wasn't plugged in to the AC outlet.



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On Nov 13, 2007, at 7:22 AM, John Coffey wrote:

> I think I read either here or on Twitter that Bill
> Streeter had 3 harddrives go bad last week. I'm
> starting to find that my Western Digital WD HD's don't
> show up on the desktop. And one of them had smoke
> coming out like a toaster. Any other thoughts on these
> "always on sale at Best Buy" clunkers. I'm gonna spend
> the $ on reliable LaCie.
> John
>
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> Cocktails www.jchtv.com
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Advice on how to get to 100-250k views a day (quickly)?

[Adam Quirk, Wreck & Salvage]

So what we should really be asking is, "How do I get on TV?"

BRB...loading pistol.

I agree with most of this though.  When I started doing this a few years
ago, that question would have sounded like the antithesis of what everyone
was trying to accomplish, trying to break into a walled garden.  Now it
sounds more like a utilitarian question, like "How do I get my enclosures to
show up in iTunes?"  That said, the television world has a lot to lose by
letting the huddled masses in under their tent.  I doubt the TV+Netvideo
marriage going to happen as soon as people think.

AQ

On Nov 13, 2007 11:22 AM, Eric Rice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> One current project I haven't talked too much about has to do with
> delivering audio and video content to set-top boxes, not those novelty
> ones like slingboxes and such, but more of the XBOX, Playstation and
> Wii (two of which have Opera-based browsing with Flash support, two
> have hard drives and such). The audience is there. It's hard, but the
> audience is there. Will we collectively be willing to do the hard work
> to get the audience, or do we want the half-assed tech ethic of 'slap
> that crap together and pray'.
>
> That said, I believe certain content has advantages over others. Do a
> show about gaming, sex, cars or any of the 'religious' topics, and it
> will help. I'd love to know what the Escapist's video 'Zero
> Punctuation' gets as far as traffic because it's so painfully funny.
> Want to make money and get a huge audience? Do a Justin Timberlake
> fancast. There's a reason that MuggleCast and others are hits. Ironic,
> really.
>
> I also will support (but not like) the idea that hot chicks and TV
> training help. Look at some of the big shows. Then flip a coin. Of
> course there will be exceptions, and we can deconstruct all day, but
> when we do that, we're not quite normal, are we? When Amanda and
> Rocketboom split, you could almost scientifically see the gaps in how
> the content (and her) were perceived based on closeness to the
> epicenter (we were s smart and intellectual on this list, and in
> the distant blogosphere it was 'uh, what?' and in the mass space (USA
> Today blog comments) it was flat out retarded.
>
> I'm still waiting for good hi-definition content come out of this
> spacem, because I, like many fat bloated americans, enjoy sitting on
> my ass in front of my home theater (this goes totally against the
> indiepunkish ethos of 'well I don't owwn a television', etc) and
> having my ears tantalized in 7.1 surround sound.
>
> There are three types of content I adore-- Video, video and sometimes
> video. Sometimes it's on YouTube, sometimes it's buried in a forum
> someplace, and other times, it comes from a TV studio or DVD (my god I
> love Entourage, don't you?).
>
> We are the Content Creation Class-- we're kinda different than
> everyone else (read: consumers). But damn, how does your audio podcast
> compete with the non-interface of turning on satellite radio in the
> car? Apples to Oranges, and our risk for elitism just *hates* that
> kind of reality. :)
>
> ER
>
>
>
>
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >  > On 13 Nov 2007, at 11:38, Bill Cammack wrote:
> >  > I wondered how to drag all of those people, aimlessly streaming
> > past me, into viewing an online show.
> >
> > ---
> >
> > Set top box.  That's the only way you'll get people watching online
> > shows.  I don't know if you use the term 'set top box' in the US.  I
> > just mean a box that plugs into your TV.  One that'd allow people to
> > watch ordinary network shows on their widescreen tv and also surf
> > internet TV.
> >
> > People will not watch shows on a computer.  Do you know anybody who
> > watches anything on a computer?  Other than the odd bored moment
> > surfing old TV shows on Youtube?  My friends and family will watch my
> > videoblog, mostly because I've forced them to by subscribing them via
> > email, but they won't then go on to watch any of the vlogs I link to,
> > or click on the URLs of people who comment.
> >
> > Computers are full of distractions, and are quite hard things to use
> > if you want to concentrate on or relax to motion picture
> > entertainment.  The TV / Couch combo works.  I firmly believe it's
> > just a matter of someone bringing internet video to the couch.  Until
> > then, forget it.
> >
> > Rupert
> > http://twittervlog.tv/
> > http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>


-- 
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[videoblogging] Re: Advice on how to get to 100-250k views a day (quickly)?

[Rupert Howe]

OK, take it outside now please... 

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Speaking of Jason, he's most known for:
> 
> 1. Stealing the idea and the people from Gizmodo to make the  
> identical knock off- Engagdget
> 2. Not paying employees fair wages.
> 3. Trying to steal Amanda from Rocketboom (only one day after news  
> broke)
> 4. Trying to steal top posters from Digg for Netscape
> 2. Killing Netscape by making it into a Diggclone and then getting  
> fired from AOL
> 3. Building a site called Mahalo which is suffering badly and no one  
> likes.
> 
> Not just based on these few examples which have been extremely  
> destructive to the world, but also based on his regular,  
> stereotypical activity of attacking people instead of their work, I  
> just want to throw out that Jason's only means of being popular is  
> exactly this: taking and causing conflict.
> 
> Look no further than Ann Coulter. It works great for her. If they  
> can't do it based on their own good ideas and they cant do it while  
> collaborating with others, at least they can do it by shitting all  
> over everyone.
> 
> Usually a good post has a lot of conversation but doesn't cause  
> others to speak out so negatively at the author. This is likely the  
> reason why there have been SO MANY bad reactions to Jason's post:  
> When one lives their life so selfishly while attacking and being  
> brutal, its destructive to everyone around because it causes damage  
> and rubs off on the rest off.
> 
> My original answer to the original thread was likely not considered.  
> The best way to grow your audience is not by spamming everyone. Its  
> by improving your show. At this point Jason, you really shouldn't be  
> asking any other questions until you get that one worked out. You got  
> Veronica, she's great. You should be paying Veronica more, you need  
> to invest in some better equipment and get some production help. How  
> can you improve the show?
> 
> We ask ourselves this question every single day and it continues to  
> receive the most concern out of every thing we do.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Re: [videoblogging] bad Western Digital Hardrives?

[Brook Hinton]

There is no such thing as a truly reliable external firewire drive,
sadly. Though I've had better luck with LaCies then with some other
brands.

Laptop users remember!

TURN ON THE COMPUTER BEFORE CONNECTING THE DRIVE
TURN ON THE DRIVE (if that's an option) BEFORE CONNECTING
CONNECT AND WAIT FOR MOUNTING before launching FCP or whatever.
EJECT/DISMOUNT the drive before disconnecting <<

[videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo - the 12th

[Rupert Howe]

Susan,

Sorry, I meant to say in my last email but got distracted by Kate
looking over my shoulder saying, "Who's SUSAN?"

The easiest and best way to get ALL the videos is to go to:

http://www.mefeedia.com/tags/navlopomo07/

That's the tag you should use for your vids: navlopomo07

There are almost 500 videos there already.  In 12 days.  

And you can scan easily and watch randomly.

As Cheryl said to me, though - don't try and catch up yet - just start
watching from here on in.  We've got another 18 days to go.

The main reason we used the NaBloPoMo Ning group this year rather than
setting up something separate was that it was already set up and ready
to go by Eden Kennedy for the text Nablopomo, so we just piggybacked
on it, after deciding to do it a couple of days before.  And we
thought it might help introduce other NaBloPoMo people to video blogging.

I'm not too confused by it, so I don't mind using it in conjunction
with Mefeedia - but it would be good to think of better ways to do it
in future.  If anybody has any ideas...?

Rupert
http://twittervlog.tv/
http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I love the concept, I just hope next year we use something other than
> Ning...
> 
> How about technorati, or blip, or other tagging services? Is anyone
> viewing videos just by looking for the "navlopomo" tag?
> 
> Susan
> 
> 
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert  wrote:
> >
> > Hey Susan,
> > Hurray! Great you're in, too. It's been amazing, so far.
> > Sorry you found it confusing, but I think it will get pretty  
> > confusing and fragmented if we post here.
> > Just go to:
> > http://nablopomo.ning.com/group/videobloggers
> > There are discussion threads that say:
> > Navlopomo Day 12 Videos
> > or Navlopomo Day 11 Videos
> > or Navlopomo Day 10
> > etc
> > Click on those and post your video for that day in that thread.   
> > You'll see that everyone else has just posted their videos for that  
> > day there in a big scrolling list.
> > Use the Blip share code for Myspace to embed your video into your  
> > message, and give your post link so that people can comment.
> > Can't wait to see - but am already so far behind in my viewing...
> > Rupert
> > http://twittervlog.tv/
> > http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/
> > 
> > 
> > On 12 Nov 2007, at 21:25, Susan wrote:
> > 
> > Hi folks, long time no talk! I'm still around.
> > 
> > Made a new video each of the past 3 days, in fact... you've got to
> > check out the one called "SAT," I've been wanting to do that for a
> > long time.
> > 
> > http://vlog.kitykity.com
> > 
> > Anyways, I know this is NaBloPoMo, and I know this Ning site has been
> > set up...
> > http://nablopomo.ning.com/group/videobloggers
> > ...and forgive me if I'm dense, but that site is SUPER confusing
to me.
> > 
> > Has anyone thought of posting their videos here? Maybe just reply to
> > this post today, and give us a direct link to your video for this day,
> > the 12th...
> > 
> > Here's mine...
> > http://www.kitykity.com/vlog/?p=412
> > 
> > Susan
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

RE: [videoblogging] Re: Advice on how to get to 100-250k views a day (quickly)?

[Dennis Poulette]

Hi. Sorry to say this, but I can’t see how this conversation belongs on the
list now. It’s got little to do with videoblogging.

 

   _  

From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Jason McCabe Calacanis
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 9:51 AM
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Advice on how to get to 100-250k views a day
(quickly)?

 

--- In HYPERLINK
"mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com"[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Andrew Baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Speaking of Jason, he's most known for: 

Oh boy... I probably shouldn't even respond to something so libelous.
However, this is so false I've got to correct it.

> 1. Stealing the idea and the people from Gizmodo to make the 
> identical knock off- Engagdget

False. 

I didn't steal the idea because the idea was Peter Rojas'. Nick Denton
back Peter's idea first in the form of Gizmodo, we (the weblogs, Inc
team) backed it second in the form of Engadget. 

For background, I offered Peter Rojas equity in Weblogs, Inc. and he
gladly left his ~$1,200 a month job with Nick Denton at Gizmodo. Nick
Denton promised Peter equity and never gave it him, we did. We
invested our own money into Engadget which quickly--thanks to Peter
and his team--grew to 3x the size of the incumbent Gizmodo. 

We sold Weblogs, Inc. (and without getting into exact details) Peter
became a millionaire over night. 

> 2. Not paying employees fair wages.

False. 

What are you basing this on? We paid hundreds of folks at Weblogs,
Inc. per month well over six figures for years. We paid the best rates
in the blogging business (better than or as good as Denton depending
on the time). When AOL bought Weblogs, Inc. we hired around 20-30
folks full-time. 


> 3. Trying to steal Amanda from Rocketboom (only one day after news 
> broke)

False. 

How could we steal her if she left? She was a free agent and looking
for work. AOL really wanted to hire her so we made her an offer (a
very nice large offer). She took another large offer from ABC's. 

Are people not allowed to make offers? Would you rather talented folks
not get offers when they've achieved success? After working for you
should Amanda never work again? I'm confused. 

> 4. Trying to steal top posters from Digg for Netscape

False. 

We offered the top posters from digg pay for work they had previously
not been paid for. We paid ~40 of them to work on Netscape/Propeller
doing things like putting in high-quality stories, taking our false
stories and spam, and cleaning up the mess that is social news
sometimes. It was a really good idea and Propeller is the second
largest social news site in the world.

> 2. Killing Netscape by making it into a Diggclone and then getting 
> fired from AOL

False.

Jon Miller the CEO of AOL was fired and I left in solidarity within 24
hours. That's how I do I'm loyal. I started working with a fairly
well known venture capital firm with ten days of that. 

Netscape was being shutdown when folks at AOL asked me what I'd do
with it. I said I would build an editorialized version of digg where
the news was fact-checked. We did, it worked. The only reason they
moved it to it's own domain--from what I've been told--is that it is
more valuable with a new name (i.e. in terms of a sale) and that
redirecting Netscape's audience to AOL.com is highly profitable
because AOL.COM is the most profitable part of the empire (and social
news sites have a harder time making money). 

> 3. Building a site called Mahalo which is suffering badly and no one 
> likes.

The 1.5 million uniques who've come in the last 30 days (our fifth
month) might disagree with you. :-)

In terms of Veronica you can be sure she has a much better deal than
the one she had at CNET. You can also be sure she has much more
resources behind her than ever.

Good luck with that second show.

all the best j

 


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[videoblogging] Re: Advice on how to get to 100-250k views a day (quickly)?

[Eric Rice]

One current project I haven't talked too much about has to do with
delivering audio and video content to set-top boxes, not those novelty
ones like slingboxes and such, but more of the XBOX, Playstation and
Wii (two of which have Opera-based browsing with Flash support, two
have hard drives and such). The audience is there. It's hard, but the
audience is there. Will we collectively be willing to do the hard work
to get the audience, or do we want the half-assed tech ethic of 'slap
that crap together and pray'.

That said, I believe certain content has advantages over others. Do a
show about gaming, sex, cars or any of the 'religious' topics, and it
will help. I'd love to know what the Escapist's video 'Zero
Punctuation' gets as far as traffic because it's so painfully funny.
Want to make money and get a huge audience? Do a Justin Timberlake
fancast. There's a reason that MuggleCast and others are hits. Ironic,
really.

I also will support (but not like) the idea that hot chicks and TV
training help. Look at some of the big shows. Then flip a coin. Of
course there will be exceptions, and we can deconstruct all day, but
when we do that, we're not quite normal, are we? When Amanda and
Rocketboom split, you could almost scientifically see the gaps in how
the content (and her) were perceived based on closeness to the
epicenter (we were s smart and intellectual on this list, and in
the distant blogosphere it was 'uh, what?' and in the mass space (USA
Today blog comments) it was flat out retarded.

I'm still waiting for good hi-definition content come out of this
spacem, because I, like many fat bloated americans, enjoy sitting on
my ass in front of my home theater (this goes totally against the
indiepunkish ethos of 'well I don't owwn a television', etc) and
having my ears tantalized in 7.1 surround sound.

There are three types of content I adore-- Video, video and sometimes
video. Sometimes it's on YouTube, sometimes it's buried in a forum
someplace, and other times, it comes from a TV studio or DVD (my god I
love Entourage, don't you?).

We are the Content Creation Class-- we're kinda different than
everyone else (read: consumers). But damn, how does your audio podcast
compete with the non-interface of turning on satellite radio in the
car? Apples to Oranges, and our risk for elitism just *hates* that
kind of reality. :)

ER




--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  > On 13 Nov 2007, at 11:38, Bill Cammack wrote:
>  > I wondered how to drag all of those people, aimlessly streaming  
> past me, into viewing an online show.
> 
> ---
> 
> Set top box.  That's the only way you'll get people watching online  
> shows.  I don't know if you use the term 'set top box' in the US.  I  
> just mean a box that plugs into your TV.  One that'd allow people to  
> watch ordinary network shows on their widescreen tv and also surf  
> internet TV.
> 
> People will not watch shows on a computer.  Do you know anybody who  
> watches anything on a computer?  Other than the odd bored moment  
> surfing old TV shows on Youtube?  My friends and family will watch my  
> videoblog, mostly because I've forced them to by subscribing them via  
> email, but they won't then go on to watch any of the vlogs I link to,  
> or click on the URLs of people who comment.
> 
> Computers are full of distractions, and are quite hard things to use  
> if you want to concentrate on or relax to motion picture  
> entertainment.  The TV / Couch combo works.  I firmly believe it's  
> just a matter of someone bringing internet video to the couch.  Until  
> then, forget it.
> 
> Rupert
> http://twittervlog.tv/
> http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Re: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo - the 12th

[David Meade]

Yeah I'm NOT a fan of ning either.  It really kinda frustrates me to
have another step (manually cross posting to ning) especially this
month.  To me this is exactly what we're not supposed to have to do
thanks to our RSS Feeds.

For this reason I've been using MeFeedia, which aggregates all videos
tagged 'navlopomo07', (or any other tag for that matter) ... and I can
then subscribe to this aggfregation using MeFeedias provided RSS feed.

I use Miro player to download and watch all these videos.

The combination of MeFeedia and Miro (or aggregator of choice) is
awesome.  And for those of you who prefer to watch via the web, as
Frank points out, you can get a web list of them all already at
MeFeedia ... even if they arent manually re-listed over at ning.

NaVloPoMo was a last minute thing and we just kinda latched on to the
existing NaBloPoMo site cause it was there I guess ... but I'm using
MeFeedia. :-)

- Dave

On Nov 13, 2007 10:37 AM, Frank Sinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Susan,
>
> I know a few people using our video tag aggregation service (some are
> also using Miro to just download the videos they want from this tag by
> putting the tag RSS in Miro):
>
> http://mefeedia.com/tags/NaVloPoMo07/
>
> We've also created this page where you can subscribe, track comments
> and other activities:
>
> http://www.mefeedia.com/feeds/26445/
>
> We're working on better ways to track the conversations too and would
> love your feedback.
>
> Regards,
> -Frank
>
> http://www.mefeedia.com/user/franks - What are you watching?
>
>
>
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I love the concept, I just hope next year we use something other than
> > Ning...
> >
> > How about technorati, or blip, or other tagging services? Is anyone
> > viewing videos just by looking for the "navlopomo" tag?
> >
> > Susan
> >
> >
> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey Susan,
> > > Hurray! Great you're in, too. It's been amazing, so far.
> > > Sorry you found it confusing, but I think it will get pretty
> > > confusing and fragmented if we post here.
> > > Just go to:
> > > http://nablopomo.ning.com/group/videobloggers
> > > There are discussion threads that say:
> > > Navlopomo Day 12 Videos
> > > or Navlopomo Day 11 Videos
> > > or Navlopomo Day 10
> > > etc
> > > Click on those and post your video for that day in that thread.
> > > You'll see that everyone else has just posted their videos for that
> > > day there in a big scrolling list.
> > > Use the Blip share code for Myspace to embed your video into your
> > > message, and give your post link so that people can comment.
> > > Can't wait to see - but am already so far behind in my viewing...
> > > Rupert
> > > http://twittervlog.tv/
> > > http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/
> > >
> > >
> > > On 12 Nov 2007, at 21:25, Susan wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi folks, long time no talk! I'm still around.
> > >
> > > Made a new video each of the past 3 days, in fact... you've got to
> > > check out the one called "SAT," I've been wanting to do that for a
> > > long time.
> > >
> > > http://vlog.kitykity.com
> > >
> > > Anyways, I know this is NaBloPoMo, and I know this Ning site has been
> > > set up...
> > > http://nablopomo.ning.com/group/videobloggers
> > > ...and forgive me if I'm dense, but that site is SUPER confusing
> to me.
> > >
> > > Has anyone thought of posting their videos here? Maybe just reply to
> > > this post today, and give us a direct link to your video for this day,
> > > the 12th...
> > >
> > > Here's mine...
> > > http://www.kitykity.com/vlog/?p=412
> > >
> > > Susan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>



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[videoblogging] Re: Advice on how to get to 100-250k views a day (quickly)?

[Jason McCabe Calacanis]

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Speaking of Jason, he's most known for: 

Oh boy... I probably shouldn't even respond to something so libelous.
However, this is so false I've got to correct it.


> 1. Stealing the idea and the people from Gizmodo to make the  
> identical knock off- Engagdget

False. 

I didn't steal the idea because the idea was Peter Rojas'. Nick Denton
back Peter's idea first in the form of Gizmodo, we (the weblogs, Inc
team) backed it second in the form of Engadget. 

For background, I offered Peter Rojas equity in Weblogs, Inc. and he
gladly left his ~$1,200 a month job with Nick Denton at Gizmodo. Nick
Denton promised Peter equity and never gave it him, we did. We
invested our own money into Engadget which quickly--thanks to Peter
and his team--grew to 3x the size of the incumbent Gizmodo. 

We sold Weblogs, Inc. (and without getting into exact details) Peter
became a millionaire over night. 


> 2. Not paying employees fair wages.

False. 

What are you basing this on? We paid hundreds of folks at Weblogs,
Inc. per month well over six figures for years. We paid the best rates
in the blogging business (better than or as good as Denton depending
on the time). When AOL bought Weblogs, Inc. we hired around 20-30
folks full-time. 
  

> 3. Trying to steal Amanda from Rocketboom (only one day after news  
> broke)

False. 

How could we steal her if she left? She was a free agent and looking
for work. AOL really wanted to hire her so we made her an offer (a
very nice large offer). She took another large offer from ABC's. 

Are people not allowed to make offers? Would you rather talented folks
not get offers when they've achieved success? After working for you
should Amanda never work again? I'm confused. 


> 4. Trying to steal top posters from Digg for Netscape

False. 

We offered the top posters from digg pay for work they had previously
not been paid for. We paid ~40 of them to work on Netscape/Propeller
doing things like putting in high-quality stories, taking our false
stories and spam, and cleaning up the mess that is social news
sometimes. It was a really good idea and Propeller is the second
largest social news site in the world.


> 2. Killing Netscape by making it into a Diggclone and then getting  
> fired from AOL

False.

Jon Miller the CEO of AOL was fired and I left in solidarity within 24
hours. That's how I do I'm loyal. I started working with a fairly
well known venture capital firm with ten days of that. 

Netscape was being shutdown when folks at AOL asked me what I'd do
with it. I said I would build an editorialized version of digg where
the news was fact-checked. We did, it worked. The only reason they
moved it to it's own domain--from what I've been told--is that it is
more valuable with a new name (i.e. in terms of a sale) and that
redirecting Netscape's audience to AOL.com is highly profitable
because AOL.COM is the most profitable part of the empire (and social
news sites have a harder time making money). 

> 3. Building a site called Mahalo which is suffering badly and no one  
> likes.

The 1.5 million uniques who've come in the last 30 days (our fifth
month) might disagree with you. :-)

In terms of Veronica you can be sure she has a much better deal than
the one she had at CNET. You can also be sure she has much more
resources behind her than ever.

Good luck with that second show.

all the best j

[videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo - the 12th

[David Howell]

My assumption is that we are using the Ning site because NaBloPoMo is using it.

People are already tagging their videos with navlopomo and navlopomo07. It's on 
technorati, blip and mefeedia. If you Google "navlopomo" or "navlopomo07", you 
are going 
to get a crapload of hits back.

I am having trouble understanding what is so difficult with registering with 
Ning and 
joining the videoblogging group there? I'm getting updates all the time for new 
NaVloPoMo videos through Ning. Added to the fact that I am subscribed to 
everyone that 
is taking part in NaVloPomo, I am not missing anyone's videos.

David
http://www.taoofdavid.com
http://www.davidhowellstudios.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I love the concept, I just hope next year we use something other than
> Ning...
> 
> How about technorati, or blip, or other tagging services? Is anyone
> viewing videos just by looking for the "navlopomo" tag?
> 
> Susan
> 
> 
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert  wrote:
> >
> > Hey Susan,
> > Hurray! Great you're in, too. It's been amazing, so far.
> > Sorry you found it confusing, but I think it will get pretty  
> > confusing and fragmented if we post here.
> > Just go to:
> > http://nablopomo.ning.com/group/videobloggers
> > There are discussion threads that say:
> > Navlopomo Day 12 Videos
> > or Navlopomo Day 11 Videos
> > or Navlopomo Day 10
> > etc
> > Click on those and post your video for that day in that thread.   
> > You'll see that everyone else has just posted their videos for that  
> > day there in a big scrolling list.
> > Use the Blip share code for Myspace to embed your video into your  
> > message, and give your post link so that people can comment.
> > Can't wait to see - but am already so far behind in my viewing...
> > Rupert
> > http://twittervlog.tv/
> > http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/
> > 
> > 
> > On 12 Nov 2007, at 21:25, Susan wrote:
> > 
> > Hi folks, long time no talk! I'm still around.
> > 
> > Made a new video each of the past 3 days, in fact... you've got to
> > check out the one called "SAT," I've been wanting to do that for a
> > long time.
> > 
> > http://vlog.kitykity.com
> > 
> > Anyways, I know this is NaBloPoMo, and I know this Ning site has been
> > set up...
> > http://nablopomo.ning.com/group/videobloggers
> > ...and forgive me if I'm dense, but that site is SUPER confusing to me.
> > 
> > Has anyone thought of posting their videos here? Maybe just reply to
> > this post today, and give us a direct link to your video for this day,
> > the 12th...
> > 
> > Here's mine...
> > http://www.kitykity.com/vlog/?p=412
> > 
> > Susan
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

[videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo - the 12th

[Frank Sinton]

Hi Susan,

I know a few people using our video tag aggregation service (some are
also using Miro to just download the videos they want from this tag by
putting the tag RSS in Miro):

http://mefeedia.com/tags/NaVloPoMo07/

We've also created this page where you can subscribe, track comments
and other activities:

http://www.mefeedia.com/feeds/26445/

We're working on better ways to track the conversations too and would
love your feedback.

Regards,
-Frank

http://www.mefeedia.com/user/franks - What are you watching?


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I love the concept, I just hope next year we use something other than
> Ning...
> 
> How about technorati, or blip, or other tagging services? Is anyone
> viewing videos just by looking for the "navlopomo" tag?
> 
> Susan
> 
> 
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert  wrote:
> >
> > Hey Susan,
> > Hurray! Great you're in, too. It's been amazing, so far.
> > Sorry you found it confusing, but I think it will get pretty  
> > confusing and fragmented if we post here.
> > Just go to:
> > http://nablopomo.ning.com/group/videobloggers
> > There are discussion threads that say:
> > Navlopomo Day 12 Videos
> > or Navlopomo Day 11 Videos
> > or Navlopomo Day 10
> > etc
> > Click on those and post your video for that day in that thread.   
> > You'll see that everyone else has just posted their videos for that  
> > day there in a big scrolling list.
> > Use the Blip share code for Myspace to embed your video into your  
> > message, and give your post link so that people can comment.
> > Can't wait to see - but am already so far behind in my viewing...
> > Rupert
> > http://twittervlog.tv/
> > http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/
> > 
> > 
> > On 12 Nov 2007, at 21:25, Susan wrote:
> > 
> > Hi folks, long time no talk! I'm still around.
> > 
> > Made a new video each of the past 3 days, in fact... you've got to
> > check out the one called "SAT," I've been wanting to do that for a
> > long time.
> > 
> > http://vlog.kitykity.com
> > 
> > Anyways, I know this is NaBloPoMo, and I know this Ning site has been
> > set up...
> > http://nablopomo.ning.com/group/videobloggers
> > ...and forgive me if I'm dense, but that site is SUPER confusing
to me.
> > 
> > Has anyone thought of posting their videos here? Maybe just reply to
> > this post today, and give us a direct link to your video for this day,
> > the 12th...
> > 
> > Here's mine...
> > http://www.kitykity.com/vlog/?p=412
> > 
> > Susan
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>