[WAMUG] Problem with replyingto emails in Apple Mail

[Marcus Harris via WAMUG]

I have an issue with Mail.
When I reply to an email, the text will not type normally, Initially the 
letters are bunched together, then instead of typing a letter, the next key 
brings up a text box and then another key moves to the image shown below within 
a box requesting  "markup “
I can do a work round by typing within the signature and then cut and paste, 
but it’s not one off and more than annoying.
Any solutions gratefully accepted.
Marcus
Marcus Harris
P.O. Box 7135
Shenton Park
Western Australia 6008
Australia
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Re: [WAMUG} Apple Mail

[Stephen Chape]

Hi again Peter.

Have you tried right clicking on one of those mailboxes to bring up a menu?
I just tried with mine and on that menu is “Add to Favourites”
Might be worth trying that 

I don’t know if that will work, but it might add that mailbox back into “All 
Inboxes”.

> On 21 Mar 2021, at 2:33 pm, Peter Curtis  wrote:
> 
> Hi Stephen
> What you say is correct! However, at the moment when put on ‘All inboxes’ it 
> shows no emails, when put on one of my actual mailboxes (e.g. 
> j...@augold.com.au <mailto:j...@augold.com.au>) it shows the current emails 
> in that box. Or, when put on augold.com.au <http://augold.com.au/> it shows 
> those emails, but when on ‘All inboxes it shows nothing?
> Kind regards
> Peter
> 
>> On 21 Mar 2021, at 10:05 am, Stephen Chape > <mailto:chap...@bigpond.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Peter.
>> 
>> My “All Inboxes” contains “iCloud” and “Stephen”.
>> 
>> To the left of “All Inboxes” is an arrow pointing to the right or down.
>> Click the arrow and “All Inboxes” will either expand or contract.
>> 
>>> On 21 Mar 2021, at 8:50 am, Peter Curtis  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi alli
>>> In Apple Mail I usually use ‘All inboxes’ with a couple of mailboxes 
>>> within. Now when I choose ‘All inboxes’ it shows nothing and I have to go 
>>> to each mailbox separately to view the mail within them. Can anyone suggest 
>>> a reason for this? or a setting? I am not aware of changing anything.
>>> Kind regards
>>> Peter
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>> Regards
>> Stephen Chape
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Re: [WAMUG} Apple Mail

[Peter Curtis]

Hi Stephen
What you say is correct! However, at the moment when put on ‘All inboxes’ it 
shows no emails, when put on one of my actual mailboxes (e.g. 
j...@augold.com.au) it shows the current emails in that box. Or, when put on 
augold.com.au it shows those emails, but when on ‘All inboxes it shows nothing?
Kind regards
Peter

> On 21 Mar 2021, at 10:05 am, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> Hi Peter.
> 
> My “All Inboxes” contains “iCloud” and “Stephen”.
> 
> To the left of “All Inboxes” is an arrow pointing to the right or down.
> Click the arrow and “All Inboxes” will either expand or contract.
> 
>> On 21 Mar 2021, at 8:50 am, Peter Curtis  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi alli
>> In Apple Mail I usually use ‘All inboxes’ with a couple of mailboxes within. 
>> Now when I choose ‘All inboxes’ it shows nothing and I have to go to each 
>> mailbox separately to view the mail within them. Can anyone suggest a reason 
>> for this? or a setting? I am not aware of changing anything.
>> Kind regards
>> Peter
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> Regards
> Stephen Chape
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Re: [WAMUG} Apple Mail

[Stephen Chape]

Hi Peter.

My “All Inboxes” contains “iCloud” and “Stephen”.

To the left of “All Inboxes” is an arrow pointing to the right or down.
Click the arrow and “All Inboxes” will either expand or contract.

> On 21 Mar 2021, at 8:50 am, Peter Curtis  wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> In Apple Mail I usually use ‘All inboxes’ with a couple of mailboxes within. 
> Now when I choose ‘All inboxes’ it shows nothing and I have to go to each 
> mailbox separately to view the mail within them. Can anyone suggest a reason 
> for this? or a setting? I am not aware of changing anything.
> Kind regards
> Peter
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[WAMUG} Apple Mail

[Peter Curtis]

Hi all
In Apple Mail I usually use ‘All inboxes’ with a couple of mailboxes within. 
Now when I choose ‘All inboxes’ it shows nothing and I have to go to each 
mailbox separately to view the mail within them. Can anyone suggest a reason 
for this? or a setting? I am not aware of changing anything.
Kind regards
Peter
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Re: apple mail - drafts

[Ronni Brown]

Hello Gary,

> sometime I send an email and is shows up  in both DRAFTS and SENT
> 
> does that mean its hasn't been sent ?

If the message is showing in the SENT mailbox - It has been sent.

If the message is also still showing in DRAFTS Mailbox:
1. Go to the Mail menu and choose Preferences. Click on the Accounts button at 
the top. 
2. Click on the email account that has the issue. 
3. In the right pane, click on the Mailbox Behaviors tab.
4. Is there a checkmark in front of “Store Drafts messages on the server”? If 
so, uncheck it. 

From then on, drafts will only be saved on your computer, and not on your 
iPhone or iPad...but they won’t get stuck in your Drafts folder anymore!

Repeat this step for all other IMAP accounts you may have.

Cheers,
Ronni

13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage

El Capitan OS X 10.11.5


> On 1 Aug 2016, at 4:59 PM, gdorn@me <gd...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> Helo Wamug
> 
> RE: Apple Mail 5.3
> Mac os 10.7.5
> 
> 
> Drafts
> 
> could someone please enlighten me to the workings of Apple mail, in 
> partilcular how Mail box Drafts work
> 
>  I understand this is the place where email is temporarily stored until it is 
> sent.
> 
> but
> 
> sometime I send an email and is shows up  in both DRAFTS and SENT
> 
> does that mean its hasn't been sent ?
> 
> Mail help says 
>   Save and send draft messages
>  <> <> <> <> <> <>
>   If you’re writing a message and want to finish it later, you 
> can save it as a draft. Mail saves drafts automatically a few 
>  seconds after you start to write a message. If you quit Mail while an 
> unsent message is open, Mail saves it as a draft  
> automatically.
> Drafts mailbox
>  <>
> The Drafts mailbox contains messages you’ve saved but haven’t sent yet. The 
> Drafts mailbox remains displayed until there are no drafts and you quit Mail.
> 
> Send draft messages
>  <>
> When you’re done writing the message and it’s ready to send, click the Send 
> icon in the toolbar or choose Message > Send.
> If you have several drafts to send, select them in the mailbox where you 
> store drafts and choose Message > Send.
> By default, drafts are stored in the Drafts mailbox. 
>  <>
>  <>
> 
> Further to the above, for the past year, I am also finding that some emails, 
> particularly those that are either forwarded or replied, completely disappear 
> from my mail boxes - simply can't find them!
> 
> thanks in advance for any advice or word so wisdom.
> 
> 
> gdorn
> gd...@mac.com <mailto:gd...@mac.com>


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apple mail - drafts

[gdorn@me]

Helo Wamug

RE: Apple Mail 5.3
Mac os 10.7.5


Drafts

could someone please enlighten me to the workings of Apple mail, in partilcular 
how Mail box Drafts work

 I understand this is the place where email is temporarily stored until it is 
sent.

but

sometime I send an email and is shows up  in both DRAFTS and SENT

does that mean its hasn't been sent ?

Mail help says 
Save and send draft messages
If you’re writing a message and want to finish it later, you 
can save it as a draft. Mail saves drafts automatically a few   
   seconds after you start to write a message. If you quit Mail while an unsent 
message is open, Mail saves it as a draft  automatically.
Drafts mailbox
The Drafts mailbox contains messages you’ve saved but haven’t sent yet. The 
Drafts mailbox remains displayed until there are no drafts and you quit Mail.

Send draft messages
When you’re done writing the message and it’s ready to send, click the Send 
icon in the toolbar or choose Message > Send.
If you have several drafts to send, select them in the mailbox where you store 
drafts and choose Message > Send.
By default, drafts are stored in the Drafts mailbox. 

Further to the above, for the past year, I am also finding that some emails, 
particularly those that are either forwarded or replied, completely disappear 
from my mail boxes - simply can't find them!

thanks in advance for any advice or word so wisdom.


gdorn
gd...@mac.com



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Re: Archiving messages in Apple Mail - Mavericks

[Ronni Brown]

Hi Peter,

I've changed the Subject on my reply email to a more relevant name, to make 
searching the WAMUG Archives easier. 

I don't need to remind people to have a current Backup. 

On 10 Sep 2014, at 6:57 am, petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:

 Thanks for this Ronni. Is there any benefit in archiving (ie Trashing) old 
 sent items in reducing burden on Mail for the benefit of speed improvement?


Yes, Archiving old Messages from Mail, especially if your mailboxes become 
really large you'll often experience slow Mail performance on your Mac. You can 
archive these messages without losing them.

What you need to know:

* Once you archive your emails they won't be available on any of your Macs or 
devices -- they will only live inside your archive mailbox.

* This also makes it essential you backup your Mac, so you won't lose these 
messages if disaster strikes.

* Archiving only works if you have Mail set up to remove deleted mail from the 
server sending mail to that account. (MailPreferencesAccountsMailbox 
BehavioursTrash. Uncheck - Store deleted messages on server).

Step one:
Launch Mail and choose Mailbox  New Mailbox. Now name the mailbox (Archive 
2010-11, for example) and choose On My Mac as the location. Press OK and the 
mailbox appears in the list at the left.

Step two:
Select the messages you wish to archive. You might want to choose all the mail 
you received between 2010-2011, if that happens to be appropriate to you. Once 
you've selected the messages you wish to archive, 'drag  drop' them into your 
new Archive mailbox. 
Repeat this until all your messages are in the new Archive 2010-11 Mailbox

Step three:
With all your messages in the Archive, it's time to export them. 
Control-click on the mailbox name in the list on the left, and select Export 
Mailbox... from the contextual menu that appears. You can also do this by 
choosing the mailbox and using Export Mailbox in the menu.

Step four:
Choose where to save your archive, but remember to check Export all subfolders, 
if you have any, to export. Click Choose.

Step five:
Exporting your mail will take time -- it could take a long time! 

Step six:
Once export is complete, you'll see an mbox file icon appear where you exported 
the Mailbox too. 
Do check to make sure all the mbox files and subfolders you created are there.

Step seven:
Now delete the Archive you created in Mail by Control-clicking the mailbox and 
selecting Delete Mailbox. Don't worry -- all your messages are already saved in 
your exported Archive.

Step eight:
Whenever you need to search messages stored inside that archive, you should 
launch Mail and select FileImport Mailboxes, (select Apple Mail as data 
format). Click Continue and navigate to the exported archive(s) on your Mac, 
select the right collection and click Choose. 

In a little while, all your archived mails will reappear in Mail. Find the ones 
you need and copy, print or move them. Now, you can delete the Archived Mail 
you just imported (Right-click, Delete Mailbox) -- all your archived mail 
remains safe in the originally exported box.

Conclusion:
This is how to cut clutter from Mail without losing any important messages. 
There are third-party Mail archiving solutions that might be more 
straightforward to use.
A long time ago I used 'Email Archiver Pro.app' but from what I remember I 
didn't find it more convenient.

My Mail is HUGE... With SIX enabled email accounts! The amount of email I 
receive and send daily is quite unbelievable :(

Cheers,
Ronni

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Apple Mail - Get Ac info -sort pane by name or date

[Michael Anderson]

Dear Wamugers

Previously in mail when you selected the Settings wheel, then  Get Account 
Info  at the very bottom of the Mailboxes/ Email folders (left hand side), you 
were taken to a screen showing all the emails still on the mail server for that 
email POP account.  In this screen previously it was easy to identify and then 
delete messages which you may not wish to download to another device.  
Basically this is still the case, except for one frustrating thingy.

I now find I cannot sort this list - by Subject or by Date Received or any 
other option.  Previously just by clicking on the top banner for one of the 
headings (as with most Apple directories) the screen would be sorted into that 
classification; eg Subject or Date Received.

It was a very useful feature for sorting for a particular string or dates to 
delete.  

Do I need to turn something ON?

Is there a way to again activate this option?

Macbook Pro
MacOsX 10.9.2

Cheers
Mike Anderson
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Re: Apple Mail - Get Ac info -sort pane by name or date

[Ronni Brown]

Hi Mike,

The Mail Get Account Info window shows messages sorted by 'Size' now.
I guess so it is easier to delete large messages that are going to flood an 
email account.

You can send Feedback to Apple:
Go to Mail  Provide Mail Feedback

Cheers,
Ronni

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2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD

OS X 10.9.2 Mavericks
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)


On 21 Mar 2014, at 4:51 pm, Michael Anderson mand...@me.com wrote:

 Dear Wamugers
 
 Previously in mail when you selected the Settings wheel, then  Get Account 
 Info  at the very bottom of the Mailboxes/ Email folders (left hand side), 
 you were taken to a screen showing all the emails still on the mail server 
 for that email POP account.  In this screen previously it was easy to 
 identify and then delete messages which you may not wish to download to 
 another device.  Basically this is still the case, except for one frustrating 
 thingy.
 
 I now find I cannot sort this list - by Subject or by Date Received or any 
 other option.  Previously just by clicking on the top banner for one of the 
 headings (as with most Apple directories) the screen would be sorted into 
 that classification; eg Subject or Date Received.
 
 It was a very useful feature for sorting for a particular string or dates to 
 delete.  
 
 Do I need to turn something ON?
 
 Is there a way to again activate this option?
 
 Macbook Pro
 MacOsX 10.9.2
 
 Cheers
 Mike Anderson

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Re: Apple Mail - Get Ac info -sort pane by name or date

[Ronni Brown]

Hi Mike,

The Mail Get Account Info window shows messages sorted by 'Size' now.
I guess so it is easier to delete large messages that are going to flood an 
email account.

You can send Feedback to Apple:
Go to Mail  Provide Mail Feedback

Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD

OS X 10.9.2 Mavericks
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)


On 21 Mar 2014, at 4:51 pm, Michael Anderson mand...@me.com wrote:

 Dear Wamugers
 
 Previously in mail when you selected the Settings wheel, then  Get Account 
 Info  at the very bottom of the Mailboxes/ Email folders (left hand side), 
 you were taken to a screen showing all the emails still on the mail server 
 for that email POP account.  In this screen previously it was easy to 
 identify and then delete messages which you may not wish to download to 
 another device.  Basically this is still the case, except for one frustrating 
 thingy.
 
 I now find I cannot sort this list - by Subject or by Date Received or any 
 other option.  Previously just by clicking on the top banner for one of the 
 headings (as with most Apple directories) the screen would be sorted into 
 that classification; eg Subject or Date Received.
 
 It was a very useful feature for sorting for a particular string or dates to 
 delete.  
 
 Do I need to turn something ON?
 
 Is there a way to again activate this option?
 
 Macbook Pro
 MacOsX 10.9.2
 
 Cheers
 Mike Anderson

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Fwd: Attachment is there - but can't access - hotmail Apple Mail

[Ronda Brown]

Sent from Ronni's iPad

Begin forwarded message:

 From: Steven Knowles emai...@knowles.net.au
 Date: 10 July 2012 7:59:02 PM AWST
 To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com
 Subject: Re: Attachment is there - but can't access - hotmail  Apple Mail
 
 Ronni, maybe you can pass this to the WAMUG mailing list in case my message 
 doesn't make it as an unpaid subscriber. It's a solution to previous problem 
 raised (copied below).
 
 I've subsequently found the hotmail attachment problem has raised its head 
 numerous times. Piecing together snippets from the experiences recorded, I 
 found a solution which solved my problem of not being able to see an attached 
 graphic file:
 
 Although attachments can't be opened, or seen via Quick Look, they can be 
 seen if, via the menu options, a user accesses File  Quick Look Attachments, 
 or Command+Y, and then arrow through to the attachment the user wants to view.
 Whist the attachment of interest is in view, enter Full Screen Mode via the 
 diagonal double arrow in the top right corner of the Quick Look Attachments 
 window.
 Take a screen shot of the attachment on display via Shift+Command+4  space 
 bar  click.
 Open image of the screen capture and crop to size.
 
 Cheers, Steven
 
 
 On 04/05/2012, at 10:22 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi Steven,
 
 I would suspect the problem lies with the sender's Hotmail. Hotmail has 
 never handled attachments right.
 The problem is most likely a wrong Content type in the header.
 
 Use View  Message  Raw Source and check if you see - Content-type: 
 multipart/Related
 That is the problem, the right value is Multipart/mixed
 
 An example from one of my emails:
 Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 15:16:33 +0800
 Subject: Delivery Confirmation
 Content-type: multipart/mixed;
 
 How you can change it; I don't have time just at present to see if an 
 Applescript could be made that changes multipart/related into 
 multipart/mixed from an email header.
 
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
 OS X 10.7.3 Lion
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 
 
 On 03/05/2012, at 10:55 AM, Steven Knowles wrote:
 
 I'm not sure if this is a hotmail issue, or a Mail issue, but lately I've 
 had examples whereby somebody has sent me an email with attachment, but I 
 can't access the attachment.
 
 From memory, this problem has arisen only when receiving from a hotmail 
 address.
 
 Using Apple's Mail as email Client (Lion 10.7.3), I can see that the 
 content (as in the attached file) must be within the email somewhere 
 because in the Size column of my inbox screen, it says 691KB, and in the 
 paperclip column, 2 attachments (1 of which is an embedded graphic in a sig 
 file). However, when looking at the email itself, it indicates just 1 
 attachment of 31KB, being the embedded graphic. No sign of the attachment I 
 want to access, and I've looked in the Mail Downloads folder itself. Yet 
 Mail must begetting this 691KB info from somewhere??
 
 Anybody have a clue as to what's happening here?
 
 Cheers, Steven
 

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Lion apple mail attachments missing

[Michael Anderson]

Macbook Pro 
2.53 Intel Core2Duo
Lion 10.7.4

Having checked the Wamug archive, - there was a thread from Steven K in Aug2011 
around this topic, but there did not seem a conclusive solution.

My problem:  Attachments inconsistently don't appear although the Mail 
programme indicates via icons that there is an attachment, and I know there 
should be an attachment!  

Only by going to the webmail account, can I actually view and then cleanly 
download the attachment.  It seems an inconsistent issue and seems to occur 
across email accounts.  I have rebuilt all email accounts, and email folders 
within mail.  

There seems to be an increasing incidence of this.  Online Apple support forums 
indicate that others are also experiencing similar issues without successful 
solutions.  Apple seem very quiet.  Any suggestions?

Mike Anderson
mand...@me.com
Paid up Wamug member - though not sure of current number?

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Re: Lion apple mail attachments missing

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Mike,

Not all attachments will show in the body of an email.

Is there a 'Save' button showing in the header of the email? if you hover over 
a particular attachment, you can get more details.

Depending on several variables, including the message format, the type(s) of 
attachment, and your preference settings, the attachments may also appear in 
the body of your message—either as icons or, for certain graphics formats, as 
inline graphics. 

You mention you are seeing an icon ... is that in the body of the message?

Hover your pointer over an attachment icon in the body of the message for more 
information, including the full filename and its downloaded status.

Control-click a single attachment for a contextual menu of options. 
To view a supported graphic in the body of the message, choose View in Place.

Cheers,
Ronni

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2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD

OS X 10.7.4 Lion
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
On 08/06/2012, at 11:28 AM, Michael Anderson wrote:

 Macbook Pro 
 2.53 Intel Core2Duo
 Lion 10.7.4
 
 Having checked the Wamug archive, - there was a thread from Steven K in 
 Aug2011 around this topic, but there did not seem a conclusive solution.
 
 My problem:  Attachments inconsistently don't appear although the Mail 
 programme indicates via icons that there is an attachment, and I know there 
 should be an attachment!  
 
 Only by going to the webmail account, can I actually view and then cleanly 
 download the attachment.  It seems an inconsistent issue and seems to occur 
 across email accounts.  I have rebuilt all email accounts, and email folders 
 within mail.  
 
 There seems to be an increasing incidence of this.  Online Apple support 
 forums indicate that others are also experiencing similar issues without 
 successful solutions.  Apple seem very quiet.  Any suggestions?
 
 Mike Anderson
 mand...@me.com
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Re: Attachment is there - but can't access - hotmail Apple Mail

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Steven,

I would suspect the problem lies with the sender's Hotmail. Hotmail has never 
handled attachments right.
The problem is most likely a wrong Content type in the header.

Use View  Message  Raw Source and check if you see - Content-type: 
multipart/Related
That is the problem, the right value is Multipart/mixed

An example from one of my emails:
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 15:16:33 +0800
Subject: Delivery Confirmation
Content-type: multipart/mixed;

How you can change it; I don't have time just at present to see if an 
Applescript could be made that changes multipart/related into 
multipart/mixed from an email header.

 
Cheers,
Ronni

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2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD

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Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)


On 03/05/2012, at 10:55 AM, Steven Knowles wrote:

 I'm not sure if this is a hotmail issue, or a Mail issue, but lately I've had 
 examples whereby somebody has sent me an email with attachment, but I can't 
 access the attachment.
 
 From memory, this problem has arisen only when receiving from a hotmail 
 address.
 
 Using Apple's Mail as email Client (Lion 10.7.3), I can see that the content 
 (as in the attached file) must be within the email somewhere because in the 
 Size column of my inbox screen, it says 691KB, and in the paperclip column, 2 
 attachments (1 of which is an embedded graphic in a sig file). However, when 
 looking at the email itself, it indicates just 1 attachment of 31KB, being 
 the embedded graphic. No sign of the attachment I want to access, and I've 
 looked in the Mail Downloads folder itself. Yet Mail must begetting this 
 691KB info from somewhere??
 
 Anybody have a clue as to what's happening here?
 
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Attachment is there - but can't access - hotmail Apple Mail

[Steven Knowles]

I'm not sure if this is a hotmail issue, or a Mail issue, but lately I've had 
examples whereby somebody has sent me an email with attachment, but I can't 
access the attachment.

From memory, this problem has arisen only when receiving from a hotmail 
address.

Using Apple's Mail as email Client (Lion 10.7.3), I can see that the content 
(as in the attached file) must be within the email somewhere because in the 
Size column of my inbox screen, it says 691KB, and in the paperclip column, 2 
attachments (1 of which is an embedded graphic in a sig file). However, when 
looking at the email itself, it indicates just 1 attachment of 31KB, being the 
embedded graphic. No sign of the attachment I want to access, and I've looked 
in the Mail Downloads folder itself. Yet Mail must begetting this 691KB info 
from somewhere??

Anybody have a clue as to what's happening here?

Cheers, Steven
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Apple mail

[tom samson]

Can someone remind me as to how I can delete old addresses in mail? I end up 
sending some mail to our of date mail addresses by mistake - too quick for my 
own mind.
tom samson
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Re: Apple mail

[Jane Griffiths]

Hi Tom

In Mail menu bar go to WindowPrevious Recipients.

A new window opens up with a list of all the email addresses you have used.

Select the one you no longer want and click Remove From List

That should do the trick.


Cheers
Jane


On 21/03/2012, at 4:23 PM, tom samson wrote:

 Can someone remind me as to how I can delete old addresses in mail? I end up 
 sending some mail to our of date mail addresses by mistake - too quick for my 
 own mind.
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Re: Apple mail

[Steven Knowles]

Tom, once you've created a new message, and you see that an old email address 
has appeared in the 'To' field, place your cursor over the email address, at 
the right end. You should see a little downward pointing white triangle. Click 
on the triangle. Select Remove from Previous Recipients List.

Cheers, Steven


On 21/03/2012, at 6:23 PM, tom samson wrote:

 Can someone remind me as to how I can delete old addresses in mail? I end up 
 sending some mail to our of date mail addresses by mistake - too quick for my 
 own mind.
 tom samson

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Re: Apple mail

[tom samson]

thanks for the help- I totally forgot about the Previous recipients.
What a dummy
tom
On 21/03/2012, at 4:23 PM, tom samson wrote:

 Can someone remind me as to how I can delete old addresses in mail? I end up 
 sending some mail to our of date mail addresses by mistake - too quick for my 
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Missing attachment - Apple Mail in Lion?

[Steven Knowles]

A query regarding Mail 5 (Lion).

I've received a message with, supposedly, an attached file which I need.

In the Message Viewer, the size column shows 492KB, indicating an attachment, 
and the Attachments column shows 2 items, indicating the attachment in 
question, the 2nd obviously being a sig file graphic embedded in the message.

However, viewing the message itself, the 'Save' button shows only one 
attachment, the graphic, 14KB. There's no file at the base of the message, 
where you'd usually see an attachment.

I've brought up the forward and redirect windows, to see if that makes my 
missing attachment materialise. Nope. Even forwarded the whole message to a 
hotmail account to see if the attachment appeared in hotmail. No to that as 
well.

The attachment's gotta be buried in the received email somewhere, otherwise I 
wouldn't expect Message Viewer to indicate 492KB and two attachments. The 
embedded graphic is small, definitely not 492KB, and this is about the size I'd 
expect the vaporised attachment to be.

I've quit Mail and relaunched. Rebuilt the mailbox. No joy.

Any clues as to how I might weed out this elusive attachment?

Another thing ... quitting Mail and relaunching no longer remembers all open 
Mail windows.

Previously reported searching issues still an issue despite following all 
suggested fixing attempts.


Lion's Mail is one buggy app!!


Steven


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Re: Missing attachment - Apple Mail in Lion?

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Steven,

You have to scroll down to the bottom of a threaded email on the right window 
to even see them. No attachments show on the top of emails any longer (by the 
paperclip) 

Or do you mean the buttons that said quicklook and save? There are hidden by 
default, but can be seen if you click on the blue word 'details' on the top 
right of the message. Once selected, this view remains for all other messages.
 
You should still be able to quicklook attachments from the message by selecting 
them and pressing the spacebar. If this doesn't work for you, then maybe there 
is another problem. 
The quicklook window is now a pale colour by the way.

Sent from Ronni's iPad

On 04/08/2011, at 8:14 PM, Steven Knowles emai...@knowles.net.au wrote:

 
 A query regarding Mail 5 (Lion).
 
 I've received a message with, supposedly, an attached file which I need.
 
 In the Message Viewer, the size column shows 492KB, indicating an attachment, 
 and the Attachments column shows 2 items, indicating the attachment in 
 question, the 2nd obviously being a sig file graphic embedded in the message.
 
 However, viewing the message itself, the 'Save' button shows only one 
 attachment, the graphic, 14KB. There's no file at the base of the message, 
 where you'd usually see an attachment.
 
 I've brought up the forward and redirect windows, to see if that makes my 
 missing attachment materialise. Nope. Even forwarded the whole message to a 
 hotmail account to see if the attachment appeared in hotmail. No to that as 
 well.
 
 The attachment's gotta be buried in the received email somewhere, otherwise I 
 wouldn't expect Message Viewer to indicate 492KB and two attachments. The 
 embedded graphic is small, definitely not 492KB, and this is about the size 
 I'd expect the vaporised attachment to be.
 
 I've quit Mail and relaunched. Rebuilt the mailbox. No joy.
 
 Any clues as to how I might weed out this elusive attachment?
 
 Another thing ... quitting Mail and relaunching no longer remembers all open 
 Mail windows.
 
 Previously reported searching issues still an issue despite following all 
 suggested fixing attempts.
 
 
 Lion's Mail is one buggy app!!
 
 
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Re: Missing attachment - Apple Mail in Lion?

[Steven Knowles]

Hi Ronni

Yes, the Save and Quick Look buttons are on display. This area is which 
indicates a single small 14KB attachment, being the graphic, and conflicting 
with the 492KB message size in the Message Viewer. Scrolling down either when 
still in the Message Viewer (preview pane), or opening the message and 
scrolling down, makes no difference. No attachment visible. Other messages do 
show the attachments.

Quick Look displays the small attachment (the graphic in the sender's sig 
file), however no left or right arrows in the Quick Look window to move to next 
attachment. It's as if the larger attachment's not there, but the size column 
displayed in the Message Viewer tells a different story.

I've found the attachment though!! By doing so, seems something even more weird 
happening. This is what I did ...

Opened the message.
View  Message  Raw Source
Knowing that the missing attachment was likely to be a pdf file, Command+F and 
searched pdf
This identified a file name within this raw source text likely to be the name 
of the attachment (in this case img-803140111-0001.pdf)
Via spotlight searched this file name, and up came a match, being the missing 
attachment.
Here's the weird part ... looking at where this file had been parked, it seems 
to be parked within a hierarchy of files and associated with a completely 
different mail account, in fact an old one which is no longer active, and 
probably not active for a couple of years.

This is where the attached file was nested 

Users  my home folder  Library (greyed, presumably an invisible folder)  
Mail  V2  POP-old mail account user name@old dom...@mail.old domain  
INBOX.mbox  great long code resembling a MAC address  Data  1  2  6  
Attachments  621945  2  img-803140111-0001.pdf

Perhaps with such a convoluted nest of folders it's no wonder attachments are 
losing their way. But seriously, does that give anybody a clue as to what's 
going on? What worries me mostly is that old mail account came up just a couple 
of days ago for some reason, something associated with it for no good reason, 
and I just can't remember what it was now. Do others have this same folder 
hierarchy?

If I navigate to the V2 folder (mentioned in hierarchy above), a whole bunch of 
folders are listed, each clearly associated with a separate mail account. Does 
anybody know whether this V2 folder should contain only active mailboxes? If I 
look inside the bowels of the folder associated with the inactive account in 
question (where my missing attachment ended up), worryingly it's got plenty of 
recent action happening, as in files modified today, yesterday, etc. Surely 
this shouldn't be happening inside the folder of a no longer used mail account??

I can't just delete the old account folder because it probably contains lots of 
historical messages I'd like to retain.

Looking messy and a bit dangerous!! 

Cheers, Steven



On 04/08/2011, at 11:04 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 Hi Steven,
 
 You have to scroll down to the bottom of a threaded email on the right window 
 to even see them. No attachments show on the top of emails any longer (by the 
 paperclip) 
 
 Or do you mean the buttons that said quicklook and save? There are hidden by 
 default, but can be seen if you click on the blue word 'details' on the top 
 right of the message. Once selected, this view remains for all other messages.
  
 You should still be able to quicklook attachments from the message by 
 selecting them and pressing the spacebar. If this doesn't work for you, then 
 maybe there is another problem. 
 The quicklook window is now a pale colour by the way.
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad
 
 On 04/08/2011, at 8:14 PM, Steven Knowles emai...@knowles.net.au wrote:
 
 
 A query regarding Mail 5 (Lion).
 
 I've received a message with, supposedly, an attached file which I need.
 
 In the Message Viewer, the size column shows 492KB, indicating an 
 attachment, and the Attachments column shows 2 items, indicating the 
 attachment in question, the 2nd obviously being a sig file graphic embedded 
 in the message.
 
 However, viewing the message itself, the 'Save' button shows only one 
 attachment, the graphic, 14KB. There's no file at the base of the message, 
 where you'd usually see an attachment.
 
 I've brought up the forward and redirect windows, to see if that makes my 
 missing attachment materialise. Nope. Even forwarded the whole message to a 
 hotmail account to see if the attachment appeared in hotmail. No to that as 
 well.
 
 The attachment's gotta be buried in the received email somewhere, otherwise 
 I wouldn't expect Message Viewer to indicate 492KB and two attachments. The 
 embedded graphic is small, definitely not 492KB, and this is about the size 
 I'd expect the vaporised attachment to be.
 
 I've quit Mail and relaunched. Rebuilt the mailbox. No joy.
 
 Any clues as to how I might weed out this elusive attachment?
 
 Another thing ... quitting Mail and relaunching no longer remembers all 

Re: Missing attachment - Apple Mail in Lion?

[Steven Knowles]

Ah, I remember now what the issue with that old inactive mail account. One of 
my draft messages disappeared, one which I access on an ongoing basis to store 
and add notes on a particular subject. After searching my machine with 
Spotlight, found it in some obscure folder ... related to that same old 
inactive mail account.

Steven


On 05/08/2011, at 1:05 AM, Steven Knowles wrote:

 Hi Ronni
 
 Yes, the Save and Quick Look buttons are on display. This area is which 
 indicates a single small 14KB attachment, being the graphic, and conflicting 
 with the 492KB message size in the Message Viewer. Scrolling down either when 
 still in the Message Viewer (preview pane), or opening the message and 
 scrolling down, makes no difference. No attachment visible. Other messages do 
 show the attachments.
 
 Quick Look displays the small attachment (the graphic in the sender's sig 
 file), however no left or right arrows in the Quick Look window to move to 
 next attachment. It's as if the larger attachment's not there, but the size 
 column displayed in the Message Viewer tells a different story.
 
 I've found the attachment though!! By doing so, seems something even more 
 weird happening. This is what I did ...
 
 Opened the message.
 View  Message  Raw Source
 Knowing that the missing attachment was likely to be a pdf file, Command+F 
 and searched pdf
 This identified a file name within this raw source text likely to be the name 
 of the attachment (in this case img-803140111-0001.pdf)
 Via spotlight searched this file name, and up came a match, being the missing 
 attachment.
 Here's the weird part ... looking at where this file had been parked, it 
 seems to be parked within a hierarchy of files and associated with a 
 completely different mail account, in fact an old one which is no longer 
 active, and probably not active for a couple of years.
 
 This is where the attached file was nested 
 
 Users  my home folder  Library (greyed, presumably an invisible folder)  
 Mail  V2  POP-old mail account user name@old dom...@mail.old domain  
 INBOX.mbox  great long code resembling a MAC address  Data  1  2  6  
 Attachments  621945  2  img-803140111-0001.pdf
 
 Perhaps with such a convoluted nest of folders it's no wonder attachments are 
 losing their way. But seriously, does that give anybody a clue as to what's 
 going on? What worries me mostly is that old mail account came up just a 
 couple of days ago for some reason, something associated with it for no good 
 reason, and I just can't remember what it was now. Do others have this same 
 folder hierarchy?
 
 If I navigate to the V2 folder (mentioned in hierarchy above), a whole bunch 
 of folders are listed, each clearly associated with a separate mail account. 
 Does anybody know whether this V2 folder should contain only active 
 mailboxes? If I look inside the bowels of the folder associated with the 
 inactive account in question (where my missing attachment ended up), 
 worryingly it's got plenty of recent action happening, as in files modified 
 today, yesterday, etc. Surely this shouldn't be happening inside the folder 
 of a no longer used mail account??
 
 I can't just delete the old account folder because it probably contains lots 
 of historical messages I'd like to retain.
 
 Looking messy and a bit dangerous!! 
 
 Cheers, Steven
 
 
 
 On 04/08/2011, at 11:04 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi Steven,
 
 You have to scroll down to the bottom of a threaded email on the right 
 window to even see them. No attachments show on the top of emails any longer 
 (by the paperclip) 
 
 Or do you mean the buttons that said quicklook and save? There are hidden by 
 default, but can be seen if you click on the blue word 'details' on the top 
 right of the message. Once selected, this view remains for all other 
 messages.
  
 You should still be able to quicklook attachments from the message by 
 selecting them and pressing the spacebar. If this doesn't work for you, then 
 maybe there is another problem. 
 The quicklook window is now a pale colour by the way.
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad
 
 On 04/08/2011, at 8:14 PM, Steven Knowles emai...@knowles.net.au wrote:
 
 
 A query regarding Mail 5 (Lion).
 
 I've received a message with, supposedly, an attached file which I need.
 
 In the Message Viewer, the size column shows 492KB, indicating an 
 attachment, and the Attachments column shows 2 items, indicating the 
 attachment in question, the 2nd obviously being a sig file graphic embedded 
 in the message.
 
 However, viewing the message itself, the 'Save' button shows only one 
 attachment, the graphic, 14KB. There's no file at the base of the message, 
 where you'd usually see an attachment.
 
 I've brought up the forward and redirect windows, to see if that makes my 
 missing attachment materialise. Nope. Even forwarded the whole message to a 
 hotmail account to see if the attachment appeared in hotmail. No to that as 
 well.
 
 The attachment's gotta be 

apple mail

[tom samson]

for some reason some messages refuse to quit in Mail 4.5.
Before I poke around any fixes?
tom Samson

P.s.After walking to work every morning I saw quite a lot of P.C.s on the verge 
for pick up-they were still there days later when the trucks came and not one 
Mac.
I guess they still keep running


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Re: apple mail

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Tom,

I don’t know what you mean by “some messages refuse to Quit”?
Do you mean some messages “some messages refuse to delete”?

Try 'Rebuilding the Mailbox'.
Select (highlight-click once) the Inbox Mailbox (or what ever Mailbox you have 
the problem in), 
then choose Mailbox  Rebuild from the Menu Bar

Rebuild recreates the index to the messages and does not cause them to be lost. 
During Rebuild all messages will briefly disappear from the list of messages, 
but they will reappear.

Try to then delete the messages.

If this is not your problem post back to WAMUG with more information please.


Cheers,
Ronni

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2.66GHz / 8GB / 1067 MHz DDR3 / 500GB Serial ATA Drive @ 7200rpm

OS X 10.6.7 Snow Leopard
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)

On 31/03/2011, at 10:34 PM, tom samson wrote:

 
 for some reason some messages refuse to quit in Mail 4.5.
 Before I poke around any fixes?
 tom Samson
 
 P.s.After walking to work every morning I saw quite a lot of P.C.s on the 
 verge for pick up-they were still there days later when the trucks came and 
 not one Mac.
 I guess they still keep running
 












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Fwd: Apple Mail and 10.6.4

[Aurora74]

Hi Guys,

Is the list able to assist with the issue below?

Smiles and thanks
Aurora

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Begin forwarded message:

 From: Aurora74 auror...@iinet.net.au
 Date: 28 September 2010 7:53:42 PM AWST
 To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au
 Subject: Apple Mail and 10.6.4
 Reply-To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au
 

 
 Hi,
 
 I have upgraded to 10.6.4 from 10.5.8 to get away from Entourage and it seems 
 that Apple Mail does not want to play ball.
 
 On the mail startup screen it does not resolve past the looking for mail 
 servers message on the front screen. when you cancel this screen I find that 
 I cannot quit Apple Mail as that option is greyed out. The only wayto close 
 is Force Quit.
 
 Repair permissions did not resolve the error.
 
 Any suggestions? I cannot locate a stand alone installer for mail. should I 
 reapply the 10.6.4 combo update?
 
 It worked without issue on the other machine.
 
 HELP...please?
 
 Smiles
 Aurora
 
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Re: Apple Mail and 10.6.4

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Aurora,

You haven't given us enough information about your problem for anyone to be 
able to offer assistance.
Did you setup your iinet account correctly?
Did you import your Entourage messages into Mail?

To start, try Connection Doctor:
To open Connection Doctor, choose Window  Connection Doctor. 
In the Connection Doctor window, Mail lists every incoming and outgoing email 
account you’ve configured. 
It attempts to log in to each account, and if it fails with any of them, it 
shows an explanation of why it failed.

Let us know what Connection Doctor's explanation is please.

Cheers,
Ronni


On 28/09/2010, at 7:53 PM, Aurora74 wrote:

 
 Hi,
 
 I have upgraded to 10.6.4 from 10.5.8 to get away from Entourage and it seems 
 that Apple Mail does not want to play ball.
 
 On the mail startup screen it does not resolve past the looking for mail 
 servers message on the front screen. when you cancel this screen I find that 
 I cannot quit Apple Mail as that option is greyed out. The only wayto close 
 is Force Quit.
 
 Repair permissions did not resolve the error.
 
 Any suggestions? I cannot locate a stand alone installer for mail. should I 
 reapply the 10.6.4 combo update?
 
 It worked without issue on the other machine.
 
 HELP...please?
 
 Smiles
 Aurora
 
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Apple Mail and 10.6.4

[Aurora74]

Hi,

I have upgraded to 10.6.4 from 10.5.8 to get away from Entourage and it seems 
that Apple Mail does not want to play ball.

On the mail startup screen it does not resolve past the looking for mail 
servers message on the front screen. when you cancel this screen I find that I 
cannot quit Apple Mail as that option is greyed out. The only wayto close is 
Force Quit.

Repair permissions did not resolve the error.

Any suggestions? I cannot locate a stand alone installer for mail. should I 
reapply the 10.6.4 combo update?

It worked without issue on the other machine.

HELP...please?

Smiles
Aurora

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Re: Apple Mail and 10.6.4

[Philip Trouchet]

 On 28/09/10 7:53 PM, Aurora74 wrote:

Hi,

I have upgraded to 10.6.4 from 10.5.8 to get away from Entourage and it seems 
that Apple Mail does not want to play ball.

On the mail startup screen it does not resolve past the looking for mail 
servers message on the front screen. when you cancel this screen I find that I 
cannot quit Apple Mail as that option is greyed out. The only wayto close is Force Quit.

Repair permissions did not resolve the error.

Any suggestions? I cannot locate a stand alone installer for mail. should I 
reapply the 10.6.4 combo update?

It worked without issue on the other machine.

HELP...please?

Smiles
Aurora

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Move to Thunderbird ! I did never looked back. Ciao, Philip





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Apple Mail - rules query

[Steven Knowles]

In Mail (latest version within OSX 10.6.4), let's say I have the following 
mailboxes ...

Mailbox A
Mailbox B
Mailbox C

I have a rule such that if a message arrives in account 'Mailbox A', and 
contains a specific string of characters, then the message will be copied to 
Mailbox B. That works fine.

What I now want to do is copy the arriving message to Mailbox C (as well as 
copying it to Mailbox B. However when I tried to add the action Copy Message 
To Mailbox C, the 'Copy Message' option is greyed out, presumably because I've 
already used the 'Copy Message' option in order to copy to Mailbox B. Mail 
doesn't seem to allow you to duplicate 'Copy Message' action within the same 
rule.

So, I created a new rule, same as the first rule but replacing 'Copy Message to 
Mailbox B' with  'Copy Message to Mailbox C'. Upon testing this, Mail seems to 
act on the 1st rule, but ignores the 2nd rule. I suspect that this is due to:

Each incoming message can have only one rule applied to it.
Mail doesn't consider the message copied to Mailbox B an incoming message.

Whilst typing out this query, I did figure a workaround, however it's not 
perfect so I'll keep typing.

To my rule I added another action - 'Redirect message to Mailbox C'. Whilst 
this works, it does leave a trail, in that the message in Mailbox B is marked 
as 'redirected', which is not ideal. So if anyone knows how I can 'copy' an 
incoming message to more than one mailbox, I'd be interested to hear.

Cheers, Steven

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apple mail

[gary dorn]

howdy
Apple mail on my macpro has stopped receiving emails since 30/6 ie 
all day yesterday and today so far)

 email provided by Apples mobileme

macbook and iphone both get mail AOKAY

Further to that on quitting and restarting Mail this morning ( I 
thought the at might help)

the format of my inbox has changed

bugger me, whats going on!

any thoughts solutions appreciated
thanks


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Re: apple mail

[gary dorn]

Hmm, Mail seems to have corrected itself after a force quit.

I seem to be receiving todays email. hippee

although is say Mail is now receiving 1579 emails! - .



howdy
Apple mail on my macpro has stopped receiving emails since 30/6 ie 
all day yesterday and today so far)

 email provided by Apples mobileme

macbook and iphone both get mail AOKAY

Further to that on quitting and restarting Mail this morning ( I 
thought the at might help)

the format of my inbox has changed

bugger me, whats going on!

any thoughts solutions appreciated
thanks


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north perth


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Re: Apple Mail - Display Remote Images query

[Steven Knowles]

Thanks Ronni. It's got me beat as well, but I can put the improvement down to 
no other cause than changing that setting, and the difference was immediately 
noticeable.

I guess I could test it by switching the setting on and off, but since it's not 
a problem, best I not spend the time.

On 16/02/2010, at 3:48 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 
 
 On 16/02/2010, at 3:28 AM, Steven Knowles wrote:
 
 
 I use Apple Mail and Snow Leopard. Historically I've always had Display 
 remote images in HTML messages deselected in the Viewing panel of Mail's 
 Preferences.
 
 I had cause to change this, so the option is now selected, with remote 
 images on display.
 
 I don't know whether it's coincidental, but suddenly I seem to have a 
 substantial performance boost with Mail, and the computer generally, since 
 changing the preference setting. I would have guessed it would be the 
 opposite, ie. Mail now has to bring down extra data, therefore reducing 
 performance. But nope, the positive difference is stark.
 
 Anyone know why this would be? Makes a nice change from trying to solve a 
 problem!
 
 Hi Steven,
 
 I can't see how enabling Display remote images in HTML messages would give 
 a performance boost with Mail, in fact I would expect the message to download 
 slower.
 
 From Mail Help:
 Some messages may use HTML to include remote images which, when retrieved 
 from the sender’s servers, reveal information about your computer’s address. 
 You can protect your privacy by not loading remote images contained in 
 messages you receive. 
 In addition, when you don’t load remote images, messages download more 
 quickly.
 
 From Take Control of Apple Mail:
 For incoming messages in HTML format, Mail provides an option to disable 
 display of embedded graphics, which can signal the server that you’ve read 
 the message—compromising your privacy and potentially leading to more spam. 
 Go to the Viewing preference pane and uncheck Display Remote Images in HTML 
 Messages. 
 If you want to see the graphics in a message with graphics off, click the 
 Load Images button near the top of the message pane (or window).
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
 2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
 OS X 10.6.2 Snow Leopard
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 


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Apple Mail - Display Remote Images query

[Steven Knowles]

I use Apple Mail and Snow Leopard. Historically I've always had Display remote 
images in HTML messages deselected in the Viewing panel of Mail's Preferences.

I had cause to change this, so the option is now selected, with remote images 
on display.

I don't know whether it's coincidental, but suddenly I seem to have a 
substantial performance boost with Mail, and the computer generally, since 
changing the preference setting. I would have guessed it would be the opposite, 
ie. Mail now has to bring down extra data, therefore reducing performance. But 
nope, the positive difference is stark.

Anyone know why this would be? Makes a nice change from trying to solve a 
problem!

Cheers, Steven

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Re: Apple Mail - Display Remote Images query

[Ronda Brown]

On 16/02/2010, at 3:28 AM, Steven Knowles wrote:

 
 I use Apple Mail and Snow Leopard. Historically I've always had Display 
 remote images in HTML messages deselected in the Viewing panel of Mail's 
 Preferences.
 
 I had cause to change this, so the option is now selected, with remote images 
 on display.
 
 I don't know whether it's coincidental, but suddenly I seem to have a 
 substantial performance boost with Mail, and the computer generally, since 
 changing the preference setting. I would have guessed it would be the 
 opposite, ie. Mail now has to bring down extra data, therefore reducing 
 performance. But nope, the positive difference is stark.
 
 Anyone know why this would be? Makes a nice change from trying to solve a 
 problem!

Hi Steven,

I can't see how enabling Display remote images in HTML messages would give a 
performance boost with Mail, in fact I would expect the message to download 
slower.

From Mail Help:
Some messages may use HTML to include remote images which, when retrieved from 
the sender’s servers, reveal information about your computer’s address. 
You can protect your privacy by not loading remote images contained in messages 
you receive. 
In addition, when you don’t load remote images, messages download more quickly.

From Take Control of Apple Mail:
For incoming messages in HTML format, Mail provides an option to disable 
display of embedded graphics, which can signal the server that you’ve read the 
message—compromising your privacy and potentially leading to more spam. 
Go to the Viewing preference pane and uncheck Display Remote Images in HTML 
Messages. 
If you want to see the graphics in a message with graphics off, click the Load 
Images button near the top of the message pane (or window).

Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
OS X 10.6.2 Snow Leopard
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)



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Re: Apple Mail archival

[cb]

Hi Ronni 

Help please! 

I have just done the install of 10.5.8 and my computer has hung on the restart, 
with the blue screen and the little turning spoke wheel appearing every 10 
seconds or so. It has been like this for half an hour. 

Im on another computer writing this email through my westnet account. 

Would it be ok for me to turn the computer off then on after awhile to see if 
it starts? 

All was working well up until I did the install. Im not sure if it needs to 
just keep going or not 

best regards 

chris 

- Original Message - 
From: Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com 
To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au 
Sent: Friday, 8 January, 2010 1:33:03 PM GMT +08:00 Beijing / Chongqing / Hong 
Kong / Urumqi 
Subject: Re: Apple Mail archival 

Hi Chris, 


Any reason why you have stayed at 10.5.6  not upgraded to OS X 10.5.8? 
If not, I would suggest you download the Combo OS X 10.5.8  install it. 
 http://support.apple.com/downloads/Mac_OS_X_10_5_8_Combo_Update  


After you install the Combo use Disk Utility to Repair Permissions. 


Cheers, 
Ronni 



On 08/01/2010, at 10:47 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: 




As to when an upgrade to MacBook Pro? I am thinking my 17 MacBook Pro 
might be upgraded soon... Early this year ... But I could be wrong :-) 

Sent from Ronni's iPhone 

On 08/01/2010, at 10:35 AM, Chris Burton  c...@it.net.au  wrote: 





Hi Ronni 


Thankyou so much for the info on the archival process. My apologies for not 
including my system. It is: (MacBook Pro Intel 2.2 OS 10.5.6). 


Thanks also for detailing the use on Leopard and Snow Leopard, as I am very 
much considering upgrading to a new MB Pro and I assume they all have SL 
installed. Do you suspect that there would be upgrade announcements soon, given 
it is January and they seem to coincide with the Apple conference and should I 
wait a bit? 


The Apple Mail script site looks really useful so I will follow those 
instructions and see what happens! 


Thankyou very much Ronni for your advice on this 


best regards 


chris 



On 08/01/2010, at 8:38 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: 




On 08/01/2010, at 6:10 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: 



On 07/01/2010, at 9:48 PM, Chris Burton wrote: 






Good evening all 





My email inbox has grown to be very large indeed and I am hoping someone may 
know of a method of archiving the early years of this inbox? I regularly just 
copy my Mail folder to a backup hard drive but I would like to reduce the 
overall number of emails in my inbox. 





Thanks for any advice 





kind regards 





chris 

Hi Chris, 

If you are using Apple Mail in Leopard or Snow Leopard you can Archive a 
Mailbox. 

To archive mail, select one or more mailboxes in the sidebar and choose Mailbox 
 Archive Mailbox. 
Navigate to the location where you want the .mbox files to be stored and click 
Choose. 

If you later want to import one or more archived mailboxes into Mail, choose 
File  Import Mailboxes, select Mbox Files, and click Continue. Navigate to the 
folder containing the .mbox file(s) you want to import, select it, and click 
Choose. 
If prompted to do so, select which mailboxes you want to import. 
Mail imports the data; after you click Done, you’ll see the imported 
mailbox(es) in the sidebar (under Import in the On My Mac section). 


Hi again Chris, 


I just tested some scripts I used prior to upgrading to Snow Leopard, for among 
other scripts included, Archiving a mailbox, All Messages Before a certain 
date (exporting the mailbox to another location) just to see if they now work 
in Snow Leopard. I checked first if he had an update and yes he does. 
YES, the scripts work in Snow Leopard Mail, or at least the Archive Messages 
script does work perfectly, I haven't had time to check the other scripts. 



Archive Messages (Mail)  http://homepage.mac.com/aamann/Mail_Scripts.html  

Move messages from the selected mailbox(es) to an archive mailbox or export 
them to standard mbox, plain or rich text files for backup purposes or import 
into other applications. You can select to move all messages or only messages 
sent within or certain period as well filter messages based on their read and 
flagged status. 

 http://homepage.mac.com/aamann/files/MailScripts.dmg  

Read the information and instructions. Then Scroll to the bottom of the page to 
download the latest version of the scripts. 

After running the installer, the scripts are located inside a folder called 
Mail Scripts located inside your Applications folder (even though you can 
move the scripts to any other location of your liking, the installer will not 
remove previous versions located at a different path). You can run the scripts 
either from double-clicking their icons from within the Finder or using the 
launch scripts (or assigned keyboard shortcuts) from within the script menu 
inside Mail and Address Book (the script menu is the menu with the paper scroll 
icon. In 10.3.x, it is located to the left of the Help menu - in 10.4.x and 
higher

Re: Apple Mail archival

[cb]

Hi Ronni 

I am such a panic merchant sometimes! I did a ctrl apple delete to restart and 
things seem to going along as they should with the start screen now and 
rebooting caches and stuff! 

I have now repaired permissions as you suggested and my trusty mac is now a go. 

I should not worry so much; after all I use macs! 
It has just been a long time since I had done a system install. 

Best regards and thanks so much for your help 

chris 



- Original Message - 
From: c...@it.net.au 
To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au 
Sent: Sunday, 10 January, 2010 4:15:17 PM GMT +08:00 Beijing / Chongqing / Hong 
Kong / Urumqi 
Subject: Re: Apple Mail archival 


Hi Ronni 

Help please! 

I have just done the install of 10.5.8 and my computer has hung on the restart, 
with the blue screen and the little turning spoke wheel appearing every 10 
seconds or so. It has been like this for half an hour. 

Im on another computer writing this email through my westnet account. 

Would it be ok for me to turn the computer off then on after awhile to see if 
it starts? 

All was working well up until I did the install. Im not sure if it needs to 
just keep going or not 

best regards 

chris 

- Original Message - 
From: Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com 
To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au 
Sent: Friday, 8 January, 2010 1:33:03 PM GMT +08:00 Beijing / Chongqing / Hong 
Kong / Urumqi 
Subject: Re: Apple Mail archival 

Hi Chris, 


Any reason why you have stayed at 10.5.6  not upgraded to OS X 10.5.8? 
If not, I would suggest you download the Combo OS X 10.5.8  install it. 
 http://support.apple.com/downloads/Mac_OS_X_10_5_8_Combo_Update  


After you install the Combo use Disk Utility to Repair Permissions. 


Cheers, 
Ronni 



On 08/01/2010, at 10:47 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: 




As to when an upgrade to MacBook Pro? I am thinking my 17 MacBook Pro 
might be upgraded soon... Early this year ... But I could be wrong :-) 

Sent from Ronni's iPhone 

On 08/01/2010, at 10:35 AM, Chris Burton  c...@it.net.au  wrote: 





Hi Ronni 


Thankyou so much for the info on the archival process. My apologies for not 
including my system. It is: (MacBook Pro Intel 2.2 OS 10.5.6). 


Thanks also for detailing the use on Leopard and Snow Leopard, as I am very 
much considering upgrading to a new MB Pro and I assume they all have SL 
installed. Do you suspect that there would be upgrade announcements soon, given 
it is January and they seem to coincide with the Apple conference and should I 
wait a bit? 


The Apple Mail script site looks really useful so I will follow those 
instructions and see what happens! 


Thankyou very much Ronni for your advice on this 


best regards 


chris 



On 08/01/2010, at 8:38 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: 




On 08/01/2010, at 6:10 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: 



On 07/01/2010, at 9:48 PM, Chris Burton wrote: 






Good evening all 





My email inbox has grown to be very large indeed and I am hoping someone may 
know of a method of archiving the early years of this inbox? I regularly just 
copy my Mail folder to a backup hard drive but I would like to reduce the 
overall number of emails in my inbox. 





Thanks for any advice 





kind regards 





chris 

Hi Chris, 

If you are using Apple Mail in Leopard or Snow Leopard you can Archive a 
Mailbox. 

To archive mail, select one or more mailboxes in the sidebar and choose Mailbox 
 Archive Mailbox. 
Navigate to the location where you want the .mbox files to be stored and click 
Choose. 

If you later want to import one or more archived mailboxes into Mail, choose 
File  Import Mailboxes, select Mbox Files, and click Continue. Navigate to the 
folder containing the .mbox file(s) you want to import, select it, and click 
Choose. 
If prompted to do so, select which mailboxes you want to import. 
Mail imports the data; after you click Done, you’ll see the imported 
mailbox(es) in the sidebar (under Import in the On My Mac section). 


Hi again Chris, 


I just tested some scripts I used prior to upgrading to Snow Leopard, for among 
other scripts included, Archiving a mailbox, All Messages Before a certain 
date (exporting the mailbox to another location) just to see if they now work 
in Snow Leopard. I checked first if he had an update and yes he does. 
YES, the scripts work in Snow Leopard Mail, or at least the Archive Messages 
script does work perfectly, I haven't had time to check the other scripts. 



Archive Messages (Mail)  http://homepage.mac.com/aamann/Mail_Scripts.html  

Move messages from the selected mailbox(es) to an archive mailbox or export 
them to standard mbox, plain or rich text files for backup purposes or import 
into other applications. You can select to move all messages or only messages 
sent within or certain period as well filter messages based on their read and 
flagged status. 

 http://homepage.mac.com/aamann/files/MailScripts.dmg  

Read the information and instructions. Then Scroll to the bottom of the page

Apple Mail archival

[Chris Burton]

Good evening all

My email inbox has grown to be very large indeed and I am hoping  
someone may know of a method of archiving the early years of this  
inbox? I regularly just copy my Mail folder to a backup hard drive but  
I would like to reduce the overall number of emails in my inbox.


Thanks for any advice

kind regards

chris



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Re: Apple Mail archival

[Ronda Brown]

On 07/01/2010, at 9:48 PM, Chris Burton wrote:

 
 Good evening all
 
 My email inbox has grown to be very large indeed and I am hoping someone may 
 know of a method of archiving the early years of this inbox? I regularly just 
 copy my Mail folder to a backup hard drive but I would like to reduce the 
 overall number of emails in my inbox.
 
 Thanks for any advice
 
 kind regards
 
 chris

Hi Chris,

If you are using Apple Mail in Leopard or Snow Leopard you can Archive a 
Mailbox.

To archive mail, select one or more mailboxes in the sidebar and choose Mailbox 
 Archive Mailbox. 
Navigate to the location where you want the .mbox files to be stored and click 
Choose.

If you later want to import one or more archived mailboxes into Mail, choose 
File  Import Mailboxes, select Mbox Files, and click Continue. Navigate to the 
folder containing the .mbox file(s) you want to import, select it, and click 
Choose. 
If prompted to do so, select which mailboxes you want to import. 
Mail imports the data; after you click Done, you’ll see the imported 
mailbox(es) in the sidebar (under Import in the On My Mac section).

Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
OS X 10.6.2 Snow Leopard
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)



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Re: Apple Mail archival

[Kim Maher]

To Archivers

I know when one is in Mail, if you hit “Time Machine” it only shows backed-up 
e-mail, I am not sure if this is what you are seeking?

 Your Apple Bore

Kim 

iMac 24”
Intel Core 2 Duo
MacBook Pro
Intel Core 2 Duo
iPhone 3GS 32GB
iPhone 3G 16GB
iTouch 16GB
OS X Snow Leopard

On 08/01/2010, at 6:10 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 
 
 On 07/01/2010, at 9:48 PM, Chris Burton wrote:
 
 
 Good evening all
 
 My email inbox has grown to be very large indeed and I am hoping someone may 
 know of a method of archiving the early years of this inbox? I regularly 
 just copy my Mail folder to a backup hard drive but I would like to reduce 
 the overall number of emails in my inbox.
 
 Thanks for any advice
 
 kind regards
 
 chris
 
 Hi Chris,
 
 If you are using Apple Mail in Leopard or Snow Leopard you can Archive a 
 Mailbox.
 
 To archive mail, select one or more mailboxes in the sidebar and choose 
 Mailbox  Archive Mailbox. 
 Navigate to the location where you want the .mbox files to be stored and 
 click Choose.
 
 If you later want to import one or more archived mailboxes into Mail, choose 
 File  Import Mailboxes, select Mbox Files, and click Continue. Navigate to 
 the folder containing the .mbox file(s) you want to import, select it, and 
 click Choose. 
 If prompted to do so, select which mailboxes you want to import. 
 Mail imports the data; after you click Done, you’ll see the imported 
 mailbox(es) in the sidebar (under Import in the On My Mac section).
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
 2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
 OS X 10.6.2 Snow Leopard
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 
 
 
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Re: Apple Mail archival

[Ronda Brown]

On 08/01/2010, at 6:10 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 On 07/01/2010, at 9:48 PM, Chris Burton wrote:
 
 
 Good evening all
 
 My email inbox has grown to be very large indeed and I am hoping someone may 
 know of a method of archiving the early years of this inbox? I regularly 
 just copy my Mail folder to a backup hard drive but I would like to reduce 
 the overall number of emails in my inbox.
 
 Thanks for any advice
 
 kind regards
 
 chris
 
 Hi Chris,
 
 If you are using Apple Mail in Leopard or Snow Leopard you can Archive a 
 Mailbox.
 
 To archive mail, select one or more mailboxes in the sidebar and choose 
 Mailbox  Archive Mailbox. 
 Navigate to the location where you want the .mbox files to be stored and 
 click Choose.
 
 If you later want to import one or more archived mailboxes into Mail, choose 
 File  Import Mailboxes, select Mbox Files, and click Continue. Navigate to 
 the folder containing the .mbox file(s) you want to import, select it, and 
 click Choose. 
 If prompted to do so, select which mailboxes you want to import. 
 Mail imports the data; after you click Done, you’ll see the imported 
 mailbox(es) in the sidebar (under Import in the On My Mac section).

Hi again Chris,

I just tested some scripts I used prior to upgrading to Snow Leopard, for among 
other scripts included, Archiving a mailbox, All Messages Before a certain 
date (exporting the mailbox to another location) just to see if they now work 
in Snow Leopard. I checked first if he had an update and yes he does.
YES, the scripts work in Snow Leopard Mail, or at least the Archive Messages 
script does work perfectly, I haven't had time to check the other scripts.


Archive Messages (Mail) http://homepage.mac.com/aamann/Mail_Scripts.html

Move messages from the selected mailbox(es) to an archive mailbox or export 
them to standard mbox, plain or rich text files for backup purposes or import 
into other applications. You can select to move all messages or only messages 
sent within or certain period as well filter messages based on their read and 
flagged status.

http://homepage.mac.com/aamann/files/MailScripts.dmg

Read the information and instructions. Then Scroll to the bottom of the page to 
download the latest version of the scripts.

After running the installer, the scripts are located inside a folder called 
Mail Scripts located inside your Applications folder (even though you can 
move the scripts to any other location of your liking, the installer will not 
remove previous versions located at a different path). You can run the scripts 
either from double-clicking their icons from within the Finder or using the 
launch scripts (or assigned keyboard shortcuts) from within the script menu 
inside Mail and Address Book (the script menu is the menu with the paper scroll 
icon. In 10.3.x, it is located to the left of the Help menu - in 10.4.x and 
higher it is located on the far right of the menu bar).

General Remark: Mail's AppleScript implementation does not seem to be able to 
handle too many request if Mail is busy doing something else. Some of the 
scripts seem to run better if you take all your accounts offline first (Choose 
Mailbox→Online Status→Go Offline from Mail's menu).

Archive Messages:

After starting the script, you will be presented with a list of your mailboxes 
- choose the ones you want to archive messages from using the checkboxes (note: 
mailboxes which don't contain any messages will not be displayed in the list).

You now have the option to either perform an Archive or an Export of 
messages in the selected mailboxes. Archive moves the messages into a newly 
created Archive mailbox with the current date, Export leaves the messages in 
the mailboxes and generates text files in a location you can select.

After selecting either of the buttons, you will be presented with a dialog 
which will allow you to specify options for your archive/export operation 
(filter messages based on dates, read and flagged status, output file format 
and location for export). Your selection (other than the dates which default to 
today for before and one year ago from today for after) will be remembered 
when you run the script again.

Note on export file formats: if you want to import your mail messages into 
another mail client, choose mbox, a standard mailbox format which can be read 
by most programs. If you only care about the message text and want to minimize 
the overhead for your archive, select text and your files will be much 
smaller and easier to read. For a nicer looking text version, choose rich 
text files - this also gives you the option to include attachments.

When selecting One File per Message for exporting messages to text files, the 
naming of the resulting files can be defined by the user. Certain placeholders 
can be used to access message-specific information:
%f: From header (the sender of the message)
%t: To header (the recipient of the message)
%p: Sender or Recipient (sender

Re: Apple Mail archival

[Chris Burton]

Hi Ronni

Thankyou so much for the info on the archival process. My apologies  
for not including my system. It is: (MacBook Pro Intel 2.2 OS 10.5.6).


Thanks also for detailing the use on Leopard and Snow Leopard, as I am  
very much considering upgrading to a new MB Pro and I assume they all  
have SL installed. Do you suspect that there would be upgrade  
announcements soon, given it is January and they seem to coincide with  
the Apple conference and should I wait a bit?


The Apple Mail script site looks really useful so I will follow those  
instructions and see what happens!


Thankyou very much Ronni for your advice on this

best regards

chris

On 08/01/2010, at 8:38 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:



On 08/01/2010, at 6:10 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:


On 07/01/2010, at 9:48 PM, Chris Burton wrote:



Good evening all

My email inbox has grown to be very large indeed and I am hoping  
someone may know of a method of archiving the early years of this  
inbox? I regularly just copy my Mail folder to a backup hard drive  
but I would like to reduce the overall number of emails in my inbox.


Thanks for any advice

kind regards

chris


Hi Chris,

If you are using Apple Mail in Leopard or Snow Leopard you can  
Archive a Mailbox.


To archive mail, select one or more mailboxes in the sidebar and  
choose Mailbox  Archive Mailbox.
Navigate to the location where you want the .mbox files to be  
stored and click Choose.


If you later want to import one or more archived mailboxes into  
Mail, choose File  Import Mailboxes, select Mbox Files, and click  
Continue. Navigate to the folder containing the .mbox file(s) you  
want to import, select it, and click Choose.

If prompted to do so, select which mailboxes you want to import.
Mail imports the data; after you click Done, you’ll see the  
imported mailbox(es) in the sidebar (under Import in the On My Mac  
section).


Hi again Chris,

I just tested some scripts I used prior to upgrading to Snow  
Leopard, for among other scripts included, Archiving a mailbox, All  
Messages Before a certain date (exporting the mailbox to another  
location) just to see if they now work in Snow Leopard. I checked  
first if he had an update and yes he does.
YES, the scripts work in Snow Leopard Mail, or at least the Archive  
Messages script does work perfectly, I haven't had time to check  
the other scripts.



Archive Messages (Mail) http://homepage.mac.com/aamann/Mail_Scripts.html 



Move messages from the selected mailbox(es) to an archive mailbox or  
export them to standard mbox, plain or rich text files for backup  
purposes or import into other applications. You can select to move  
all messages or only messages sent within or certain period as well  
filter messages based on their read and flagged status.


http://homepage.mac.com/aamann/files/MailScripts.dmg

Read the information and instructions. Then Scroll to the bottom of  
the page to download the latest version of the scripts.


After running the installer, the scripts are located inside a folder  
called Mail Scripts located inside your Applications folder (even  
though you can move the scripts to any other location of your  
liking, the installer will not remove previous versions located at a  
different path). You can run the scripts either from double-clicking  
their icons from within the Finder or using the launch scripts (or  
assigned keyboard shortcuts) from within the script menu inside Mail  
and Address Book (the script menu is the menu with the paper scroll  
icon. In 10.3.x, it is located to the left of the Help menu - in  
10.4.x and higher it is located on the far right of the menu bar).


General Remark: Mail's AppleScript implementation does not seem to  
be able to handle too many request if Mail is busy doing something  
else. Some of the scripts seem to run better if you take all your  
accounts offline first (Choose Mailbox→Online Status→Go Offline  
from Mail's menu).


Archive Messages:

After starting the script, you will be presented with a list of your  
mailboxes - choose the ones you want to archive messages from using  
the checkboxes (note: mailboxes which don't contain any messages  
will not be displayed in the list).


You now have the option to either perform an Archive or an  
Export of messages in the selected mailboxes. Archive moves the  
messages into a newly created Archive mailbox with the current date,  
Export leaves the messages in the mailboxes and generates text  
files in a location you can select.


After selecting either of the buttons, you will be presented with a  
dialog which will allow you to specify options for your archive/ 
export operation (filter messages based on dates, read and flagged  
status, output file format and location for export). Your selection  
(other than the dates which default to today for before and one  
year ago from today for after) will be remembered when you run the  
script again.


Note on export file formats: if you want

Re: Apple Mail archival

[Ronda Brown]

As to when an upgrade to MacBook Pro? I am thinking my 17 MacBook  
Pro might be upgraded soon... Early this year ... But I could be  
wrong :-)


Sent from Ronni's iPhone

On 08/01/2010, at 10:35 AM, Chris Burton c...@it.net.au wrote:


Hi Ronni

Thankyou so much for the info on the archival process. My apologies  
for not including my system. It is: (MacBook Pro Intel 2.2 OS 10.5.6).


Thanks also for detailing the use on Leopard and Snow Leopard, as I  
am very much considering upgrading to a new MB Pro and I assume they  
all have SL installed. Do you suspect that there would be upgrade  
announcements soon, given it is January and they seem to coincide  
with the Apple conference and should I wait a bit?


The Apple Mail script site looks really useful so I will follow  
those instructions and see what happens!


Thankyou very much Ronni for your advice on this

best regards

chris

On 08/01/2010, at 8:38 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:



On 08/01/2010, at 6:10 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:


On 07/01/2010, at 9:48 PM, Chris Burton wrote:



Good evening all

My email inbox has grown to be very large indeed and I am hoping  
someone may know of a method of archiving the early years of this  
inbox? I regularly just copy my Mail folder to a backup hard  
drive but I would like to reduce the overall number of emails in  
my inbox.


Thanks for any advice

kind regards

chris


Hi Chris,

If you are using Apple Mail in Leopard or Snow Leopard you can  
Archive a Mailbox.


To archive mail, select one or more mailboxes in the sidebar and  
choose Mailbox  Archive Mailbox.
Navigate to the location where you want the .mbox files to be  
stored and click Choose.


If you later want to import one or more archived mailboxes into  
Mail, choose File  Import Mailboxes, select Mbox Files, and click  
Continue. Navigate to the folder containing the .mbox file(s) you  
want to import, select it, and click Choose.

If prompted to do so, select which mailboxes you want to import.
Mail imports the data; after you click Done, you’ll see the impo 
rted mailbox(es) in the sidebar (under Import in the On My Mac s 
ection).


Hi again Chris,

I just tested some scripts I used prior to upgrading to Snow  
Leopard, for among other scripts included, Archiving a mailbox,  
All Messages Before a certain date (exporting the mailbox to  
another location) just to see if they now work in Snow Leopard. I  
checked first if he had an update and yes he does.
YES, the scripts work in Snow Leopard Mail, or at least the  
Archive Messages script does work perfectly, I haven't had time  
to check the other scripts.



Archive Messages (Mail) http://homepage.mac.com/aamann/Mail_Scripts.html 



Move messages from the selected mailbox(es) to an archive mailbox  
or export them to standard mbox, plain or rich text files for  
backup purposes or import into other applications. You can select  
to move all messages or only messages sent within or certain period  
as well filter messages based on their read and flagged status.


http://homepage.mac.com/aamann/files/MailScripts.dmg

Read the information and instructions. Then Scroll to the bottom of  
the page to download the latest version of the scripts.


After running the installer, the scripts are located inside a  
folder called Mail Scripts located inside your Applications  
folder (even though you can move the scripts to any other location  
of your liking, the installer will not remove previous versions  
located at a different path). You can run the scripts either from  
double-clicking their icons from within the Finder or using the  
launch scripts (or assigned keyboard shortcuts) from within the  
script menu inside Mail and Address Book (the script menu is the  
menu with the paper scroll icon. In 10.3.x, it is located to the  
left of the Help menu - in 10.4.x and higher it is located on the  
far right of the menu bar).


General Remark: Mail's AppleScript implementation does not seem to  
be able to handle too many request if Mail is busy doing something  
else. Some of the scripts seem to run better if you take all your  
accounts offline first (Choose Mailbox→Online Status→Go  
Offline from Mail's menu).


Archive Messages:

After starting the script, you will be presented with a list of  
your mailboxes - choose the ones you want to archive messages from  
using the checkboxes (note: mailboxes which don't contain any  
messages will not be displayed in the list).


You now have the option to either perform an Archive or an  
Export of messages in the selected mailboxes. Archive moves the  
messages into a newly created Archive mailbox with the current  
date, Export leaves the messages in the mailboxes and generates  
text files in a location you can select.


After selecting either of the buttons, you will be presented with a  
dialog which will allow you to specify options for your archive/ 
export operation (filter messages based on dates, read and flagged  
status, output file format

Re: Apple Mail archival

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Chris,

Any reason why you have stayed at 10.5.6  not upgraded to OS X 10.5.8?
If not, I would suggest you download the Combo OS X 10.5.8  install it.
http://support.apple.com/downloads/Mac_OS_X_10_5_8_Combo_Update

After you install the Combo use Disk Utility to Repair Permissions.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 08/01/2010, at 10:47 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 As to when an upgrade to MacBook Pro? I am thinking my 17 MacBook Pro 
 might be upgraded soon... Early this year ... But I could be wrong :-)
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPhone
 
 On 08/01/2010, at 10:35 AM, Chris Burton c...@it.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni
 
 Thankyou so much for the info on the archival process. My apologies for not 
 including my system. It is: (MacBook Pro Intel 2.2 OS 10.5.6).
 
 Thanks also for detailing the use on Leopard and Snow Leopard, as I am very 
 much considering upgrading to a new MB Pro and I assume they all have SL 
 installed. Do you suspect that there would be upgrade announcements soon, 
 given it is January and they seem to coincide with the Apple conference and 
 should I wait a bit?
 
 The Apple Mail script site looks really useful so I will follow those 
 instructions and see what happens!
 
 Thankyou very much Ronni for your advice on this
 
 best regards
 
 chris
 
 On 08/01/2010, at 8:38 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 
 On 08/01/2010, at 6:10 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 On 07/01/2010, at 9:48 PM, Chris Burton wrote:
 
 
 Good evening all
 
 My email inbox has grown to be very large indeed and I am hoping someone 
 may know of a method of archiving the early years of this inbox? I 
 regularly just copy my Mail folder to a backup hard drive but I would 
 like to reduce the overall number of emails in my inbox.
 
 Thanks for any advice
 
 kind regards
 
 chris
 
 Hi Chris,
 
 If you are using Apple Mail in Leopard or Snow Leopard you can Archive a 
 Mailbox.
 
 To archive mail, select one or more mailboxes in the sidebar and choose 
 Mailbox  Archive Mailbox. 
 Navigate to the location where you want the .mbox files to be stored and 
 click Choose.
 
 If you later want to import one or more archived mailboxes into Mail, 
 choose File  Import Mailboxes, select Mbox Files, and click Continue. 
 Navigate to the folder containing the .mbox file(s) you want to import, 
 select it, and click Choose. 
 If prompted to do so, select which mailboxes you want to import. 
 Mail imports the data; after you click Done, you’ll see the imported 
 mailbox(es) in the sidebar (under Import in the On My Mac section).
 
 Hi again Chris,
 
 I just tested some scripts I used prior to upgrading to Snow Leopard, for 
 among other scripts included, Archiving a mailbox, All Messages Before a 
 certain date (exporting the mailbox to another location) just to see if 
 they now work in Snow Leopard. I checked first if he had an update and yes 
 he does.
 YES, the scripts work in Snow Leopard Mail, or at least the Archive 
 Messages script does work perfectly, I haven't had time to check the other 
 scripts.
 
 
 Archive Messages (Mail) http://homepage.mac.com/aamann/Mail_Scripts.html
 
 Move messages from the selected mailbox(es) to an archive mailbox or export 
 them to standard mbox, plain or rich text files for backup purposes or 
 import into other applications. You can select to move all messages or only 
 messages sent within or certain period as well filter messages based on 
 their read and flagged status.
 
 http://homepage.mac.com/aamann/files/MailScripts.dmg
 
 Read the information and instructions. Then Scroll to the bottom of the 
 page to download the latest version of the scripts.
 
 After running the installer, the scripts are located inside a folder called 
 Mail Scripts located inside your Applications folder (even though you can 
 move the scripts to any other location of your liking, the installer will 
 not remove previous versions located at a different path). You can run the 
 scripts either from double-clicking their icons from within the Finder or 
 using the launch scripts (or assigned keyboard shortcuts) from within the 
 script menu inside Mail and Address Book (the script menu is the menu with 
 the paper scroll icon. In 10.3.x, it is located to the left of the Help 
 menu - in 10.4.x and higher it is located on the far right of the menu bar).
 
 General Remark: Mail's AppleScript implementation does not seem to be able 
 to handle too many request if Mail is busy doing something else. Some of 
 the scripts seem to run better if you take all your accounts offline first 
 (Choose Mailbox→Online Status→Go Offline from Mail's menu).
 
 Archive Messages:
 
 After starting the script, you will be presented with a list of your 
 mailboxes - choose the ones you want to archive messages from using the 
 checkboxes (note: mailboxes which don't contain any messages will not be 
 displayed in the list).
 
 You now have the option to either perform an Archive or an Export of 
 messages in the selected mailboxes. Archive moves the messages

Re: Apple Mail archival

[Chris Burton]

Hi Ronni

Thanks for that reminder, I had completely forgotten about doing an  
update. I see it is a big file!


Best regards

Chris

On 08/01/2010, at 1:33 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi Chris,

Any reason why you have stayed at 10.5.6  not upgraded to OS X  
10.5.8?
If not, I would suggest you download the Combo OS X 10.5.8  install  
it.

http://support.apple.com/downloads/Mac_OS_X_10_5_8_Combo_Update

After you install the Combo use Disk Utility to Repair Permissions.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 08/01/2010, at 10:47 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:

As to when an upgrade to MacBook Pro? I am thinking my 17  
MacBook Pro might be upgraded soon... Early this year ... But I  
could be wrong :-)


Sent from Ronni's iPhone

On 08/01/2010, at 10:35 AM, Chris Burton c...@it.net.au wrote:


Hi Ronni

Thankyou so much for the info on the archival process. My  
apologies for not including my system. It is: (MacBook Pro Intel  
2.2 OS 10.5.6).


Thanks also for detailing the use on Leopard and Snow Leopard, as  
I am very much considering upgrading to a new MB Pro and I assume  
they all have SL installed. Do you suspect that there would be  
upgrade announcements soon, given it is January and they seem to  
coincide with the Apple conference and should I wait a bit?


The Apple Mail script site looks really useful so I will follow  
those instructions and see what happens!


Thankyou very much Ronni for your advice on this

best regards

chris

On 08/01/2010, at 8:38 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:



On 08/01/2010, at 6:10 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:


On 07/01/2010, at 9:48 PM, Chris Burton wrote:



Good evening all

My email inbox has grown to be very large indeed and I am  
hoping someone may know of a method of archiving the early  
years of this inbox? I regularly just copy my Mail folder to a  
backup hard drive but I would like to reduce the overall number  
of emails in my inbox.


Thanks for any advice

kind regards

chris


Hi Chris,

If you are using Apple Mail in Leopard or Snow Leopard you can  
Archive a Mailbox.


To archive mail, select one or more mailboxes in the sidebar and  
choose Mailbox  Archive Mailbox.
Navigate to the location where you want the .mbox files to be  
stored and click Choose.


If you later want to import one or more archived mailboxes into  
Mail, choose File  Import Mailboxes, select Mbox Files, and  
click Continue. Navigate to the folder containing the .mbox  
file(s) you want to import, select it, and click Choose.

If prompted to do so, select which mailboxes you want to import.
Mail imports the data; after you click Done, you’ll see the  
imported mailbox(es) in the sidebar (under Import in the On My  
Mac section).


Hi again Chris,

I just tested some scripts I used prior to upgrading to Snow  
Leopard, for among other scripts included, Archiving a mailbox,  
All Messages Before a certain date (exporting the mailbox to  
another location) just to see if they now work in Snow Leopard. I  
checked first if he had an update and yes he does.
YES, the scripts work in Snow Leopard Mail, or at least the  
Archive Messages script does work perfectly, I haven't had time  
to check the other scripts.



Archive Messages (Mail) http://homepage.mac.com/aamann/Mail_Scripts.html 



Move messages from the selected mailbox(es) to an archive mailbox  
or export them to standard mbox, plain or rich text files for  
backup purposes or import into other applications. You can select  
to move all messages or only messages sent within or certain  
period as well filter messages based on their read and flagged  
status.


http://homepage.mac.com/aamann/files/MailScripts.dmg

Read the information and instructions. Then Scroll to the bottom  
of the page to download the latest version of the scripts.


After running the installer, the scripts are located inside a  
folder called Mail Scripts located inside your Applications  
folder (even though you can move the scripts to any other  
location of your liking, the installer will not remove previous  
versions located at a different path). You can run the scripts  
either from double-clicking their icons from within the Finder or  
using the launch scripts (or assigned keyboard shortcuts) from  
within the script menu inside Mail and Address Book (the script  
menu is the menu with the paper scroll icon. In 10.3.x, it is  
located to the left of the Help menu - in 10.4.x and higher it is  
located on the far right of the menu bar).


General Remark: Mail's AppleScript implementation does not seem  
to be able to handle too many request if Mail is busy doing  
something else. Some of the scripts seem to run better if you  
take all your accounts offline first (Choose Mailbox→Online  
Status→Go Offline from Mail's menu).


Archive Messages:

After starting the script, you will be presented with a list of  
your mailboxes - choose the ones you want to archive messages  
from using the checkboxes (note: mailboxes which don't contain  
any messages will not be displayed

Re: Apple Mail - Migration from 10.4 - 10.6

[Ronda Brown]

Hi again David,

I just realised this is a brand new MacBook Pro (i.e. no User Account etc setup 
yet).

In Snow Leopard Setup Assistant includes “migration technology,” which is a 
fancy way of saying that it knows how to copy important files from another 
computer or another volume in an intelligent way. Although Snow Leopard 
includes a stand-alone application called Migration Assistant (in 
/Applications/Utilities), you probably won’t need to use it because Apple has 
integrated this tool’s capabilities (with a somewhat different interface) into 
Setup Assistant itself.

This feature lets you transfer data from a bootable duplicate stored on another 
volume.
From another Mac: Files from another Mac on your network, or connected with a 
FireWire cable.
When you reach the screen in Setup Assistant that says “Do You Already Own a 
Mac?” you’re looking at migration options.

I know you have said below that you don't wish to use Migration Assistant.
That's a pity as Firewire Target Disk Mode  Migration Assistant is such an 
easy way to transfer the Users Account, Network settings etc. 

Cheers,
Ronni

On 28/11/2009, at 2:43 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 
 No David, I have only ever been to one WAMUG Meeting years ago when Daniel 
 Kerr demonstrated my IceBook.
 
 Just remember you will be Migrating from a PowerPC to an Intel Machine.
 
 NB: Upgrade any PPC apps to Universal versions (if they exist) before running 
 anything.
 http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1963?viewlocale=en_US
 
 A good guide by 'Kappy' worth reading can be found here: 
 http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=435350
 
 A Basic Guide for Migrating to Intel-Macs:
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 28/11/2009, at 2:32 PM, David Moyle wrote:
 
 
 Afternoon,
 
 Perfect Ronni! Thats the exact information I was after. :)
 
 Are you going to be at the meeting on Tuesday?
 
 Thanks,
 
 David Moyle
 Systems Technician
 Apple, Windows, Cisco
 --
 Western Australia
 Mb: 0427 888 257
 
 
 
 
 On 28/11/2009, at 2:08 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 
 Hi David,
 
 Copy his mail folder under Home  Library  Mail and also the plist under 
 Home  Library  preferences - com.apple.mail.plist
 and place in the same positions on his new MacBook Pro.
 
 Importing Mail messages:The first time you launch Mail, a window prompts 
 you to “upgrade” your existing email messages.
 This extra step, which Mail does not permit you to skip if you already have 
 saved messages, should take no more than a few minutes, and is necessary 
 because the Snow Leopard version of Mail uses a different database format 
 to store information about your messages.
 
 Note that the iCal data is not the same structure and now stores your data 
 in /Users/yourname/Library/Calendars. 
 For this reason copy his iCal folder to the desktop of your Mac and use 
 Import in iCal.
 
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
 2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
 OS X 10.6.2 Snow Leopard
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 
 
 On 28/11/2009, at 11:07 AM, David Moyle wrote:
 
 
 Morning all,
 
 I'm just chasing some advice from you all.
 
 In a few days my housemate will be getting his new MacBook Pro 13 he 
 bought yesterday at Black Friday prices.
 He will be migrating from a G4 14 running 10.4.
 
 What are the recommended solutions for migrating all of his Mail 
 settings/actions/folders?
 
 I don't particularly want to use Migration Assistant from previous bad 
 experiences at work. Will Apple Mail 10.6 import if its connected as a 
 Firewire drive? Doh!. Just realised I'll need to grab a FW 400-800 cable 
 todo the transfer.
 
 Any information is greatly appreciated.
 
 Thanks,
 
 David Moyle
 Systems Technician
 Apple, Windows, Cisco
 --
 Western Australia
 Mb: 0427 888 257



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Re: Apple Mail - Migration from 10.4 - 10.6

[Ronda Brown]

On 28/11/2009, at 4:26 PM, David Moyle wrote:

 
 Quick query as well, you mentioned that Apple Mail in 10.6 uses a different 
 mail storage standard? Is this mbox as I saw you mentioned that in another 
 e-mail thread? So now they're using the same as Mozilla Thunderbird from 
 memory and similar to Eudora from the 90s.
 
 Appreciate the info Ronni.

Hi David,

I'm not sure how to answer your quick query ...

When I mentioned Importing Mail messages:The first time you launch Mail, a 
window prompts you to “upgrade” your existing email messages. This extra step, 
which Mail does not permit you to skip if you already have saved messages, 
should take no more than a few minutes, and is necessary because the Snow 
Leopard version of Mail uses a different database format to store information 
about your messages.

The Structure of the Mail Database is different in Snow Leopard's Mail 
version 4.x, to the Leopard Mail v3.x  Tiger Mail v2.x
Databases.

In regard to Apple Mail v4.2 in 10.6 using .mbox folder format.
In pre-Tiger versions, Mail stored its messages in standard .mbox files.
Then in Tiger Apple modified the way Mail stored its email messages 
individually as .emlx files (to enable Tiger's Spotlight to search them). 
Now Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard)  10.6 (Snow Leopard) use “.mbox” as the package 
suffix for the folders that hold email message files in .emlx format.

In Snow Leopard's Mail Database - Home  Library  Mail, there is a Bundles 
(Disabled) folder). Whenever you launch Mail under Snow Leopard, it 
automatically disables all plug-ins that haven’t been explicitly updated for 
compatibility with Mac OS X 10.6 to eliminate potential conflicts.

Another thing I've noticed different from Leopard is in Mail 4.x is an 
Attachment folder in the INBOX.mbox folder of POP accounts,
In Mail 3.x, the Attachment folder was added for INBOX.imapmbox folders, but 
not POP mailboxes, until now in Mail 4.x. 

Also Mail.app in Snow Leopard is 64-bit.

Others on list can possibly answer your query and explain it better than I.


Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
OS X 10.6.2 Snow Leopard
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)



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Apple Mail - Migration from 10.4 - 10.6

[David Moyle]

Morning all,

I'm just chasing some advice from you all.

In a few days my housemate will be getting his new MacBook Pro 13 he bought 
yesterday at Black Friday prices.
He will be migrating from a G4 14 running 10.4.

What are the recommended solutions for migrating all of his Mail 
settings/actions/folders?

I don't particularly want to use Migration Assistant from previous bad 
experiences at work. Will Apple Mail 10.6 import if its connected as a Firewire 
drive? Doh!. Just realised I'll need to grab a FW 400-800 cable todo the 
transfer.

Any information is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

David Moyle
Systems Technician
Apple, Windows, Cisco
--
Western Australia
Mb: 0427 888 257






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Re: Apple Mail - Migration from 10.4 - 10.6

[Ronda Brown]

Hi David,

Copy his mail folder under Home  Library  Mail and also the plist under Home 
 Library  preferences - com.apple.mail.plist
and place in the same positions on his new MacBook Pro.
 
Importing Mail messages:The first time you launch Mail, a window prompts you to 
“upgrade” your existing email messages.
This extra step, which Mail does not permit you to skip if you already have 
saved messages, should take no more than a few minutes, and is necessary 
because the Snow Leopard version of Mail uses a different database format to 
store information about your messages.

Note that the iCal data is not the same structure and now stores your data in 
/Users/yourname/Library/Calendars. 
For this reason copy his iCal folder to the desktop of your Mac and use Import 
in iCal.


Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
OS X 10.6.2 Snow Leopard
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)


On 28/11/2009, at 11:07 AM, David Moyle wrote:

 
 Morning all,
 
 I'm just chasing some advice from you all.
 
 In a few days my housemate will be getting his new MacBook Pro 13 he bought 
 yesterday at Black Friday prices.
 He will be migrating from a G4 14 running 10.4.
 
 What are the recommended solutions for migrating all of his Mail 
 settings/actions/folders?
 
 I don't particularly want to use Migration Assistant from previous bad 
 experiences at work. Will Apple Mail 10.6 import if its connected as a 
 Firewire drive? Doh!. Just realised I'll need to grab a FW 400-800 cable todo 
 the transfer.
 
 Any information is greatly appreciated.
 
 Thanks,
 
 David Moyle
 Systems Technician
 Apple, Windows, Cisco
 --
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Re: Apple Mail - Migration from 10.4 - 10.6

[David Moyle]

Afternoon,

Perfect Ronni! Thats the exact information I was after. :)

Are you going to be at the meeting on Tuesday?

Thanks,

David Moyle
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On 28/11/2009, at 2:08 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 
 Hi David,
 
 Copy his mail folder under Home  Library  Mail and also the plist under 
 Home  Library  preferences - com.apple.mail.plist
 and place in the same positions on his new MacBook Pro.
 
 Importing Mail messages:The first time you launch Mail, a window prompts you 
 to “upgrade” your existing email messages.
 This extra step, which Mail does not permit you to skip if you already have 
 saved messages, should take no more than a few minutes, and is necessary 
 because the Snow Leopard version of Mail uses a different database format to 
 store information about your messages.
 
 Note that the iCal data is not the same structure and now stores your data in 
 /Users/yourname/Library/Calendars. 
 For this reason copy his iCal folder to the desktop of your Mac and use 
 Import in iCal.
 
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
 2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
 OS X 10.6.2 Snow Leopard
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 
 
 On 28/11/2009, at 11:07 AM, David Moyle wrote:
 
 
 Morning all,
 
 I'm just chasing some advice from you all.
 
 In a few days my housemate will be getting his new MacBook Pro 13 he bought 
 yesterday at Black Friday prices.
 He will be migrating from a G4 14 running 10.4.
 
 What are the recommended solutions for migrating all of his Mail 
 settings/actions/folders?
 
 I don't particularly want to use Migration Assistant from previous bad 
 experiences at work. Will Apple Mail 10.6 import if its connected as a 
 Firewire drive? Doh!. Just realised I'll need to grab a FW 400-800 cable 
 todo the transfer.
 
 Any information is greatly appreciated.
 
 Thanks,
 
 David Moyle
 Systems Technician
 Apple, Windows, Cisco
 --
 Western Australia
 Mb: 0427 888 257
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Apple Mail - Migration from 10.4 - 10.6

[Ronda Brown]

No David, I have only ever been to one WAMUG Meeting years ago when Daniel Kerr 
demonstrated my IceBook.

Just remember you will be Migrating from a PowerPC to an Intel Machine.

NB: Upgrade any PPC apps to Universal versions (if they exist) before running 
anything.
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1963?viewlocale=en_US

A good guide by 'Kappy' worth reading can be found here: 
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=435350

A Basic Guide for Migrating to Intel-Macs:

Cheers,
Ronni

On 28/11/2009, at 2:32 PM, David Moyle wrote:

 
 Afternoon,
 
 Perfect Ronni! Thats the exact information I was after. :)
 
 Are you going to be at the meeting on Tuesday?
 
 Thanks,
 
 David Moyle
 Systems Technician
 Apple, Windows, Cisco
 --
 Western Australia
 Mb: 0427 888 257
 
 
 
 
 On 28/11/2009, at 2:08 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 
 Hi David,
 
 Copy his mail folder under Home  Library  Mail and also the plist under 
 Home  Library  preferences - com.apple.mail.plist
 and place in the same positions on his new MacBook Pro.
 
 Importing Mail messages:The first time you launch Mail, a window prompts you 
 to “upgrade” your existing email messages.
 This extra step, which Mail does not permit you to skip if you already have 
 saved messages, should take no more than a few minutes, and is necessary 
 because the Snow Leopard version of Mail uses a different database format to 
 store information about your messages.
 
 Note that the iCal data is not the same structure and now stores your data 
 in /Users/yourname/Library/Calendars. 
 For this reason copy his iCal folder to the desktop of your Mac and use 
 Import in iCal.
 
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
 2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
 OS X 10.6.2 Snow Leopard
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 
 
 On 28/11/2009, at 11:07 AM, David Moyle wrote:
 
 
 Morning all,
 
 I'm just chasing some advice from you all.
 
 In a few days my housemate will be getting his new MacBook Pro 13 he 
 bought yesterday at Black Friday prices.
 He will be migrating from a G4 14 running 10.4.
 
 What are the recommended solutions for migrating all of his Mail 
 settings/actions/folders?
 
 I don't particularly want to use Migration Assistant from previous bad 
 experiences at work. Will Apple Mail 10.6 import if its connected as a 
 Firewire drive? Doh!. Just realised I'll need to grab a FW 400-800 cable 
 todo the transfer.
 
 Any information is greatly appreciated.
 
 Thanks,
 
 David Moyle
 Systems Technician
 Apple, Windows, Cisco
 --
 Western Australia
 Mb: 0427 888 257
 



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Apple Mail and the Flag feature - any Windows email cl ients recognise it?

[Steven Knowles]

Apple Mail provides the ability to 'flag' an email. It's a feature which is 
quite handy in my case, in which I have an IMAP account, and others who can 
access the IMAP account with Mail can see the flag also. The flag acts as a 
communication device between us, indicating whether a particular message has 
been actioned. Mail's Rules also offers the ability to flag a message at the 
time a rule has been applied.

One of the others who can access the IMAP account uses Opera on a Windows 
machine. It seems that he doesn't see these flags, unless of course there is 
some setting or view which he needs to activate. But assuming for a moment that 
Opera simply doesn't recognise the flagged aspect of a message on the server, 
is there any other Windows email client which will do so?

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Re: Apple Mail and the Flag feature - any Windows em ail clients recognise it?

[James Devenish]

Hi Steven,

2009/11/23 Steven Knowles emai...@knowles.net.au:
 Apple Mail provides the ability to 'flag' an email...One of the others
 who can access the IMAP account uses Opera on a Windows
 machine. It seems that he doesn't see these flags, unless of
 course there is some setting or view which he needs to activate.

Flags, labels and keywords are built into IMAP servers. In this
regard, Apple Mail simply uses the features provided to it. I'd be
surprised if Opera didn't use IMAP flags. Most likely, it's using them
in an obscure way or the flag column is simply hidden from view. I'd
suggest he check his Opera view options. In Apple mail, you can show
or hide both the flag column and the flag button.

James


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Re: Apple Mail and the Flag feature - any Windows em ail clients recognise it?

[Alex]

Hi Steven

I have seen flags used in Outlook as well.

Cheers,  Alex



On 23/11/2009, at 8:50 PM, Steven Knowles wrote:



Apple Mail provides the ability to 'flag' an email. It's a feature  
which is quite handy in my case, in which I have an IMAP account,  
and others who can access the IMAP account with Mail can see the  
flag also. The flag acts as a communication device between us,  
indicating whether a particular message has been actioned. Mail's  
Rules also offers the ability to flag a message at the time a rule  
has been applied.


One of the others who can access the IMAP account uses Opera on a  
Windows machine. It seems that he doesn't see these flags, unless of  
course there is some setting or view which he needs to activate. But  
assuming for a moment that Opera simply doesn't recognise the  
flagged aspect of a message on the server, is there any other  
Windows email client which will do so?


Cheers, Steven




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Re: Apple Mail and the Flag feature - any Windows em ail clients recognise it?

[Steven Knowles]

Ahh, that's interesting. Thanks James.

What do you mean by the flag button though? The flag itself? Obviously if you 
hide the flag column then the flags themselves aren't seen. And I understand 
about flagging or unflagging a message. But is there something else I'm missing?

Alex, thanks for Outlook suggestion. Have passed on.

Cheers, Steven

On 23/11/2009, at 6:29 PM, James Devenish wrote:

 
 Hi Steven,
 
 2009/11/23 Steven Knowles emai...@knowles.net.au:
 Apple Mail provides the ability to 'flag' an email...One of the others
 who can access the IMAP account uses Opera on a Windows
 machine. It seems that he doesn't see these flags, unless of
 course there is some setting or view which he needs to activate.
 
 Flags, labels and keywords are built into IMAP servers. In this
 regard, Apple Mail simply uses the features provided to it. I'd be
 surprised if Opera didn't use IMAP flags. Most likely, it's using them
 in an obscure way or the flag column is simply hidden from view. I'd
 suggest he check his Opera view options. In Apple mail, you can show
 or hide both the flag column and the flag button.
 
 James


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Re: Apple Mail and the Flag feature - any Windows em ail clients recognise it?

[James Devenish]

Hi Steven,

2009/11/23 Steven Knowles emai...@knowles.net.au:
 Ahh, that's interesting. Thanks James.
 What do you mean by the flag button though? The flag itself?

In Apple Mail, I always flag and unflag by clicking the toolbar
button. (Perhaps I have customised my toolbar.) It's easier than using
the Message menu.

James


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Re: SL upgrade: Apple Mail, now with Notes (in your inbox?)

[Jane Griffiths]

I noticed the same thing after installing Snow Leopard, but if you go  
to Mail PreferencesAccountsMailbox BehavioursNotes you can untick  
the box for Show notes in Inbox.
Your notes will then appear only under the Reminders heading below all  
your Mailbox folders, where they belong.


Regards
Jane



On 31/08/2009, at 10:35 AM, Toby Oldham wrote:



Anyone else do the upgrade path with Snow Leopard, only to notice that
any notes you have now display in your inbox (with Apple Mail)?

I've got an iMac, iPhone and MobileMe subscription. 'odd issue to be
sure... I've deleted my notes for the time being (they weren't
important).

It bugs me (from an aesthetic pov) to see notes (with that bleh notes
typeface) sitting in my inbox.

Toby 'the typeface snob' Oldham ; )


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Re: SL upgrade: Apple Mail, now with Notes (in your inbox?)

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Jane,

I've noticed Snow Leopard does change a few settings. Some preferences  
seem to get changed to default settings.
Just a bit of sorting through your applications  their preferences to  
check they are as you want.


Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard

On 31/08/2009, at 3:50 PM, Jane Griffiths wrote:




I noticed the same thing after installing Snow Leopard, but if you  
go to Mail PreferencesAccountsMailbox BehavioursNotes you can  
untick the box for Show notes in Inbox.
Your notes will then appear only under the Reminders heading below  
all your Mailbox folders, where they belong.


Regards
Jane



On 31/08/2009, at 10:35 AM, Toby Oldham wrote:



Anyone else do the upgrade path with Snow Leopard, only to notice  
that

any notes you have now display in your inbox (with Apple Mail)?

I've got an iMac, iPhone and MobileMe subscription. 'odd issue to be
sure... I've deleted my notes for the time being (they weren't
important).

It bugs me (from an aesthetic pov) to see notes (with that bleh notes
typeface) sitting in my inbox.

Toby 'the typeface snob' Oldham ; )





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Re: SL upgrade: Apple Mail, now with Notes (in your inbox?)

[Stephen Chape]

I'm with you Toby.
If you find a way to stop that please let me know !!

On 31/08/2009, at 10:35 AM, Toby Oldham wrote:



Anyone else do the upgrade path with Snow Leopard, only to notice that
any notes you have now display in your inbox (with Apple Mail)?

I've got an iMac, iPhone and MobileMe subscription. 'odd issue to be
sure... I've deleted my notes for the time being (they weren't
important).

It bugs me (from an aesthetic pov) to see notes (with that bleh notes
typeface) sitting in my inbox.

Toby 'the typeface snob' Oldham ; )


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Re: SL upgrade: Apple Mail, now with Notes (in your inbox?)

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Stephen,

This question was answered yesterday @ 3:51PM by Jane, and my  
following reply @4:13 PM


I noticed the same thing after installing Snow Leopard, but if you go  
to Mail PreferencesAccountsMailbox BehavioursNotes you can untick  
the box for Show notes in Inbox.
Your notes will then appear only under the Reminders heading below all  
your Mailbox folders, where they belong.


Regards
Jane


Hi Jane,

I've noticed Snow Leopard does change a few settings. Some preferences  
seem to get changed to default settings.
Just a bit of sorting through your applications  their preferences to  
check they are as you want.


Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard

On 31/08/2009, at 10:04 PM, Stephen Chape wrote:



I'm with you Toby.
If you find a way to stop that please let me know !!

On 31/08/2009, at 10:35 AM, Toby Oldham wrote:



Anyone else do the upgrade path with Snow Leopard, only to notice  
that

any notes you have now display in your inbox (with Apple Mail)?

I've got an iMac, iPhone and MobileMe subscription. 'odd issue to be
sure... I've deleted my notes for the time being (they weren't
important).

It bugs me (from an aesthetic pov) to see notes (with that bleh notes
typeface) sitting in my inbox.

Toby 'the typeface snob' Oldham ; )







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RE: SL upgrade: Apple Mail, now with Notes (in your inbox?)

[Toby Oldham]

Heh - thanks Jane and Ronda. : )

I did hunt around a little in preferences - just not deep enough.

Cheers,
T.

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Subject: Re: SL upgrade: Apple Mail, now with Notes (in your inbox?)


Hi Stephen,

This question was answered yesterday @ 3:51PM by Jane, and my  
following reply @4:13 PM

I noticed the same thing after installing Snow Leopard, but if you go  
to Mail PreferencesAccountsMailbox BehavioursNotes you can untick  
the box for Show notes in Inbox.
Your notes will then appear only under the Reminders heading below all  
your Mailbox folders, where they belong.

Regards
Jane


Hi Jane,

I've noticed Snow Leopard does change a few settings. Some preferences  
seem to get changed to default settings.
Just a bit of sorting through your applications  their preferences to  
check they are as you want.

Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard

On 31/08/2009, at 10:04 PM, Stephen Chape wrote:


 I'm with you Toby.
 If you find a way to stop that please let me know !!

 On 31/08/2009, at 10:35 AM, Toby Oldham wrote:


 Anyone else do the upgrade path with Snow Leopard, only to notice  
 that
 any notes you have now display in your inbox (with Apple Mail)?

 I've got an iMac, iPhone and MobileMe subscription. 'odd issue to be
 sure... I've deleted my notes for the time being (they weren't
 important).

 It bugs me (from an aesthetic pov) to see notes (with that bleh notes
 typeface) sitting in my inbox.

 Toby 'the typeface snob' Oldham ; )





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Apple Mail - Rules buggy

[Steven Knowles]

A long shot, but hoping someone can point me to some revelational fix  
for problems I'm having with Mail Rules.


I'm running 10.5.8, so a side question is whether anyone knows whether  
Snow Leopard has changed / improved Mail, and in particular Mail  
Rules. Because maybe upgrading to Snow Leopard might put an end to the  
problem anyway.


I currently have about 25 separate Rules set up, and all of these  
rules (except for the pre-prepared 'News From Apple' rule) apply to an  
IMAP account (I'll call this account IMAP A. The Rules predominantly  
copy messages to a range of other IMAP accounts, which I'll call  
collectively IMAP B, if certain Rules are met. So, I have one of the  
Conditions as Account IMAP A, and one of the actions as Copy  
Message to mailbox IMAP B.


About once a day (just an estimate of frequency), the action Copy  
Message to mailbox IMAP B simply, and without warning, changes to  
Copy Message to mailbox IMAP A. It does this for each of the Rules,  
and is bugging me because I have to go through all of the Rules about  
once a day and manually change them all back to what they should be,  
ie. Copy Message to mailbox IMAP B. Nothing else seems to change,  
just that one action.


A couple of the Rules I have set up do not copy the messages from IMAP  
A to IMAP B. These two Rules copy incoming messages to a locally saved  
Mailbox within my Mail client. These two Rules do not seem to require  
periodic repair - they just keep on going.


Any clues? Is it a known bug? Is there a fix? Will Snow Leopard likely  
fix?


Cheers, Steven


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SL upgrade: Apple Mail, now with Notes (in your inbox?)

[Toby Oldham]

Anyone else do the upgrade path with Snow Leopard, only to notice that
any notes you have now display in your inbox (with Apple Mail)?

I've got an iMac, iPhone and MobileMe subscription. 'odd issue to be
sure... I've deleted my notes for the time being (they weren't
important).

It bugs me (from an aesthetic pov) to see notes (with that bleh notes
typeface) sitting in my inbox.

Toby 'the typeface snob' Oldham ; )


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Re: SL upgrade: Apple Mail, now with Notes (in your inbox?)

[Craig Bruce]

Not that I use notes to much but they do appear in the inbox now
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On 31/08/2009, at 10:35 AM, Toby Oldham wrote:



Anyone else do the upgrade path with Snow Leopard, only to notice that
any notes you have now display in your inbox (with Apple Mail)?

I've got an iMac, iPhone and MobileMe subscription. 'odd issue to be
sure... I've deleted my notes for the time being (they weren't
important).

It bugs me (from an aesthetic pov) to see notes (with that bleh notes
typeface) sitting in my inbox.

Toby 'the typeface snob' Oldham ; )


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Re: Apple Mail - questions about 'Rules'

[Steven Knowles]

Heyy, great idea James. I was punching the air for a moment ...  
however ... I checked out the range of conditions, and there isn't one  
that I can see which enables you to effectively state If message is  
flagged then Mail seems to acknowledge the relevance of flagging  
a message if a message meets certain conditions, but doesn't allow you  
to recognise a flagged or unflagged message as a condition in order to  
implement an action :-(


Cheers, Steven


On 26/08/2009, at 8:43 AM, James Devenish wrote:



Hi Steven,

2009/8/26 Steven Knowles emai...@knowles.net.au:
With the rules on two Macs accessing the same IMAP email account, I  
suspect
that the rules will be applied twice, with the result being two  
copies of

the email being sent to other email addresses.


If you're flagging messages on the server when the rules are applied,
then configure a rule that skips over flagged messages?

James



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Re: Apple Mail - questions about 'Rules'

[Steven Knowles]

Thanks Ronni, thanks Bob

Found the MessageRules.plist easily enough. Unfortunately it turned  
out that it's not a solution for me. The mail account which I'm  
applying the rules to is set up as an IMAP account. I think what will  
happen if I put the Mail Rules on two separate Macs, both accessing  
the same IMAP account, is that the rules will get applied twice. This  
is because  I'm leaving the original message on the email server, with  
the rule being to copy the message to a different email account  
depending on the message meeting specified criteria. With the rules on  
two Macs accessing the same IMAP email account, I suspect that the  
rules will be applied twice, with the result being two copies of the  
email being sent to other email addresses.


Short of keeping my MacBook Pro running 24/7 with the lid open, which  
isn't practical, I guess I'll need to look at installing some kind of  
server side solution if I want things to be perfect. But then I'd  
probably lose the user friendliness of Mail's Rules, and more  
complicated access to the rules due to the server being a VPS hosted  
by a 3rd party.


Unless anyone has any bright idea how to have one IMAP account,  
multiple Macs accessing the IMAP account, same Rules on each Mac, but  
a Rules getting applied to a message only once?


Another problem I ran into. I had a rule which included changing the  
message background to a different colour. The idea of that was to let  
other users accessing that IMAP account know that the rule had been  
applied. However the colour change doesn't seem to reflect on the  
server, and therefore other users can't see that the rule has been  
applied. I've got round this by instead of changing colour, marking  
the message as flagged. The flag does flow through to other uses.


Cheers, Steven


On 25/08/2009, at 5:28 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:



Hello Steven,

On 25/08/2009, at 7:36 AM, Steven Knowles wrote:



Does anyone know 

1. Whether AND / OR operators function within Mail Rules, and  
within the free text fields of individual conditions? I understand  
the 'all' or 'any' functionality, but what I'm talking about is  
whether the free text fields of each condition recognises AND / OR  
operators, or basic boolean logic? I'm guessing not, but it would  
really handy if so because, in my case, it would reduce the number  
of separate rules I need to create.


As far as I'm aware Mail rules do not support boolean expressions.
You need to set up separate rules.



2. Do Mail Rules get stored in a particular file somewhere, like a  
preference or text file, which I could copy across to a different  
Mac, and therefore not have to manually recreate the same rules on  
that other Mac?


You can copy the MessageRules.plist file from Home/Library/Mail to  
the same location on the other Mac.


Cheers,
Ronni





On 25/08/2009, at 4:23 AM, Robert Howells wrote:


On 25/08/2009, at 7:36 AM, Steven Knowles wrote:



Does anyone know 

1. Whether AND / OR operators function within Mail Rules, and  
within the free text fields of individual conditions? I understand  
the 'all' or 'any' functionality, but what I'm talking about is  
whether the free text fields of each condition recognises AND / OR  
operators, or basic boolean logic? I'm guessing not, but it would  
really handy if so because, in my case, it would reduce the number  
of separate rules I need to create.


2. Do Mail Rules get stored in a particular file somewhere, like a  
preference or text file, which I could copy across to a different  
Mac, and therefore not have to manually recreate the same rules on  
that other Mac?


TryUSER - Library - Mail - MessageRules.plist

Bob




Cheers, Steven




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Re: Apple Mail - questions about 'Rules'

[James Devenish]

Hi Steven,

2009/8/26 Steven Knowles emai...@knowles.net.au:
 With the rules on two Macs accessing the same IMAP email account, I suspect
 that the rules will be applied twice, with the result being two copies of
 the email being sent to other email addresses.

If you're flagging messages on the server when the rules are applied,
then configure a rule that skips over flagged messages?

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Apple Mail - questions about 'Rules'

[Steven Knowles]

Does anyone know 

1. Whether AND / OR operators function within Mail Rules, and within  
the free text fields of individual conditions? I understand the 'all'  
or 'any' functionality, but what I'm talking about is whether the free  
text fields of each condition recognises AND / OR operators, or basic  
boolean logic? I'm guessing not, but it would really handy if so  
because, in my case, it would reduce the number of separate rules I  
need to create.


2. Do Mail Rules get stored in a particular file somewhere, like a  
preference or text file, which I could copy across to a different Mac,  
and therefore not have to manually recreate the same rules on that  
other Mac?


Cheers, Steven


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Re: Apple Mail - questions about 'Rules'

[Robert Howells]

On 25/08/2009, at 7:36 AM, Steven Knowles wrote:



Does anyone know 

1. Whether AND / OR operators function within Mail Rules, and within  
the free text fields of individual conditions? I understand the  
'all' or 'any' functionality, but what I'm talking about is whether  
the free text fields of each condition recognises AND / OR  
operators, or basic boolean logic? I'm guessing not, but it would  
really handy if so because, in my case, it would reduce the number  
of separate rules I need to create.


2. Do Mail Rules get stored in a particular file somewhere, like a  
preference or text file, which I could copy across to a different  
Mac, and therefore not have to manually recreate the same rules on  
that other Mac?


TryUSER - Library - Mail - MessageRules.plist

Bob




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Re: Apple Mail - questions about 'Rules'

[Ronda Brown]

Hello Steven,

On 25/08/2009, at 7:36 AM, Steven Knowles wrote:



Does anyone know 

1. Whether AND / OR operators function within Mail Rules, and within  
the free text fields of individual conditions? I understand the  
'all' or 'any' functionality, but what I'm talking about is whether  
the free text fields of each condition recognises AND / OR  
operators, or basic boolean logic? I'm guessing not, but it would  
really handy if so because, in my case, it would reduce the number  
of separate rules I need to create.


As far as I'm aware Mail rules do not support boolean expressions.
You need to set up separate rules.



2. Do Mail Rules get stored in a particular file somewhere, like a  
preference or text file, which I could copy across to a different  
Mac, and therefore not have to manually recreate the same rules on  
that other Mac?


You can copy the MessageRules.plist file from Home/Library/Mail to the  
same location on the other Mac.


Cheers,
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Re: pdf to html background for Apple Mail

[Ronda Brown]

On 17/08/2009, at 1:44 PM, Steven Knowles wrote:



I have a single-page pdf flier for distributions to some Arabic  
clients/contacts with a 'Ramadan Kareem' message.


With Apple Mail, can anyone tell me how I would turn this pdf flier  
into the background of an email? So instead of sending the pdf as an  
attachment, it is kind of part of the emai content, or the  
background of an email? I've tried in vain to create stationery  
templates with Apple Mail previously, but with this one I don't  
necessarily need it as a template.


Cheers, Steven



Hi Steven,

I think I must be misunderstanding you here, I apologise if I have.
What is wrong with Copy  Paste all that is on the PDF into the body  
of the email?


Try it and send the email to yourself to test.

Cheers,
Ronni



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Re: pdf to html background for Apple Mail

[Steven Knowles]

Hi Ronni

Thanks for the idea, but if I follow the copy  paste route, I just  
end up with the text from the pdf in the email, minus the graphics.  
The pdf I'm playing with is a single page flier, mostly graphic. But  
rather than send as an attachment, I was trying to send as a html email.


I tried this ages ago and gave up. I though perhaps some solutions  
might have since snuck into Mail, but nope. There are some necessarily  
convoluted solutions such as that detailed at ...


http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/31/how-to-create-edit-your-own-mail-stationery/

... but to do what I need to do using that method requires a lot more  
expertise in design software and html that I have time to acquire.


I've given up again, and resorted to using the flier in conjunction  
with Mail's 'Photo' series of stationery. Less than perfect because  
I'm forced to use the backgrounds etc provided, but the end result is  
arguably more professional than I'll ever come up with anyway.


I reckon there's a business opportunity for someone though, ie.  
designing custom made Mail Stationery. I'd have a job or two for them  
depending on price.


Cheers, Steven


On 17/08/2009, at 10:08 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi Steven,

I think I must be misunderstanding you here, I apologise if I have.
What is wrong with Copy  Paste all that is on the PDF into the  
body of the email?


Try it and send the email to yourself to test.

Cheers,
Ronni



On 17/08/2009, at 1:44 PM, Steven Knowles wrote:



I have a single-page pdf flier for distributions to some Arabic  
clients/contacts with a 'Ramadan Kareem' message.


With Apple Mail, can anyone tell me how I would turn this pdf flier  
into the background of an email? So instead of sending the pdf as  
an attachment, it is kind of part of the emai content, or the  
background of an email? I've tried in vain to create stationery  
templates with Apple Mail previously, but with this one I don't  
necessarily need it as a template.


Cheers, Steven



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pdf to html background for Apple Mail

[Steven Knowles]

I have a single-page pdf flier for distributions to some Arabic  
clients/contacts with a 'Ramadan Kareem' message.


With Apple Mail, can anyone tell me how I would turn this pdf flier  
into the background of an email? So instead of sending the pdf as an  
attachment, it is kind of part of the emai content, or the background  
of an email? I've tried in vain to create stationery templates with  
Apple Mail previously, but with this one I don't necessarily need it  
as a template.


Cheers, Steven


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Re: Re Links in email .. Apple Mail

[Mervyn Giuliana Bond]

Bob
Clicking on the link you gave produced the URL following
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/business/story/0,28124,25590542-36375,00.html?referrer=emailsource=AusBus_Lunch_email_nl
and was a page from 'The Australian: Business with the Wall Street Journal'.
Was this what you expected?
Merv



Hi Everyone !

I receive emails from a business source that are using URL links 
with an~ 


in the middle of the link :  sample below

In the link below the  ~  is about two thirds across between vt  V

In the mails I receive all that part of the link past the   ~   does 
not transfer to the browser


http://email.enewsltd.com.au/ct/click?q=63-tPKjIHW9gVf~VQCx1RAewY73E2lR

Anybody else have the same problem please ?

Bob

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Re: Re Links in email .. Apple Mail

[James Devenish]

Hi Bob,

It's probably the business's fault. It is invalid to put ~ into a URL.
If it appears, it denotes the end of the URL. A valid alternative is
to use %7e:

http://email.enewsltd.com.au/ct/click?q=63-tPKjIHW9gVf%7eVQCx1RAewY73E2lR

Some mail clients and webmail may kindly (but wrongly) allow the ~,
but I wouldn't bet on it. I'm reading the e-mail in Gmail and it
doesn't work.

James.

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Re: Re Links in email .. Apple Mail

[Robert Howells]

Thanks James :  that explains the cause of the problem

Bob




On 05/06/2009, at 5:13 PM, James Devenish wrote:


Hi Bob,

It's probably the business's fault. It is invalid to put ~ into a URL.
If it appears, it denotes the end of the URL. A valid alternative is
to use %7e:

http://email.enewsltd.com.au/ct/click?q=63-tPKjIHW9gVf%7eVQCx1RAewY73E2lR 



Some mail clients and webmail may kindly (but wrongly) allow the ~,
but I wouldn't bet on it. I'm reading the e-mail in Gmail and it
doesn't work.

James.

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Re Links in email .. Apple Mail

[Robert Howells]

Hi Everyone !

I receive emails from a business source that are using URL links with  
an~ 


in the middle of the link :  sample below

In the link below the  ~  is about two thirds across between vt  V

In the mails I receive all that part of the link past the   ~   does  
not transfer to the browser


http://email.enewsltd.com.au/ct/click?q=63- 
tPKjIHW9gVf~VQCx1RAewY73E2lR


Anybody else have the same problem please ?

Bob

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Can Automator or AppleScript do this with Apple Mail / Safari ?

[Steven Knowles]

I'd like to automate any or all of the following steps, but I can see  
nothing within the Automator library that helps. I'm a total Automator  
novice mind you.


* I receive many messages from a particular source to a specific  
mailbox. I use Apple's Mail as an email client, on latest MacOS.
* Each message states a URL at the base of the message body (ie, the  
last thing in each of the mail messages).

* This URL takes me to a web page, which I print to a pdf file.
* The web page contains a link to download a file (usually either a  
Word or PDF. Although the link is amongst a sea of other information,  
the link is in the same position on the page each time, so I imagine  
it would be possible to define the position of the link by stating  
after text which reads ...


In other words, it'd be very efficient for me to be able to highlight  
the message in question, or place it in Automator, and then Automator  
finds the last URL in the message, launches the associated web page,  
saves that page to a pdf, locates the link to the downloadable file,  
downloads the file to the same folder that the web page has been saved  
to as a pdf.


Any Automator or AppleScript experts out there who can tell me if this  
is possible, or wishful thinking? I've never gone on the AppleScript  
learning curve - Automator seems hard enough to me and where I draw  
the line - so if it's difficult but possible, then I'd be willing to  
pay for the expertise.


Cheers, Steven

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Removing attachment from an Apple Mail message

[Steven Knowles]

Whilst an Apple Mail message is housed within Apple Mail, the Message  
 Remove Attachments function works fine.


However, if I drag an Apple Mail message from, say, an inbox to a  
folder outside of Apple Mail, and then try to Remove Attachments, it  
doesn't work.


Can anyone tell me how to remove an attachment from an email once that  
email has been dragged out of Apple Mail?


Cheers, Steven

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Re: Removing attachment from an Apple Mail message

[Robert Howells]

On 14/04/2009, at 2:26 PM, Steven Knowles wrote:

Whilst an Apple Mail message is housed within Apple Mail, the  
Message  Remove Attachments function works fine.


However, if I drag an Apple Mail message from, say, an inbox to a  
folder outside of Apple Mail, and then try to Remove Attachments, it  
doesn't work.


Can anyone tell me how to remove an attachment from an email once  
that email has been dragged out of Apple Mail?


Cheers, Steven


An interesting request  ...

don't know an answer
and cannot guess what you are trying to achieve ,
or under what circumstances you would have the mail out of the Apple  
Mail !


It's easy to save the mail without the attachment as a PDF file ,
my favourite way of keeping a message  !


Bob






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Re: Removing attachment from an Apple Mail message

[Steven Knowles]

Ah, now that's fine idea Bob, ie. printing to pdf. That does get over  
the problem.


The problem I had is that I need to save attachments as a separate  
file, but if I'm saving the attachment as a separate file, I didn't  
need to have the attachment also contained within the email message -  
just wasted disk space - and we're talking large volume, so disk space  
is a consideration. Saving the email message as some other kind of  
file (via Save As from within the mesasage), eg. an rtf, didn't seem  
to work. But printing to pdf does solve the problem - a case of why  
didn't  think of that?!. It'd still be interesting to know how to  
remove the attachment though - after all, I can still drag an  
attachment out as a separate file even after the message has been  
taken out of the Apple Mail environment, so you'd think you'd be able  
to remove it.


Cheers, Steven


On 14/04/2009, at 10:37 AM, Robert Howells wrote:



On 14/04/2009, at 2:26 PM, Steven Knowles wrote:

Whilst an Apple Mail message is housed within Apple Mail, the  
Message  Remove Attachments function works fine.


However, if I drag an Apple Mail message from, say, an inbox to a  
folder outside of Apple Mail, and then try to Remove Attachments,  
it doesn't work.


Can anyone tell me how to remove an attachment from an email once  
that email has been dragged out of Apple Mail?


Cheers, Steven


An interesting request  ...

don't know an answer
and cannot guess what you are trying to achieve ,
or under what circumstances you would have the mail out of the Apple  
Mail !


It's easy to save the mail without the attachment as a PDF file ,
my favourite way of keeping a message  !


Bob.





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Re: Removing attachment from an Apple Mail message

[Robert Howells]

On 14/04/2009, at 2:47 PM, Steven Knowles wrote:

Ah, now that's fine idea Bob, ie. printing to pdf. That does get  
over the problem.


And have you found the one step print to PDF    Cups-PDF
which shows like a printer in your Print Queue ( it's free )

Bob




The problem I had is that I need to save attachments as a separate  
file, but if I'm saving the attachment as a separate file, I didn't  
need to have the attachment also contained within the email message  
- just wasted disk space - and we're talking large volume, so disk  
space is a consideration. Saving the email message as some other  
kind of file (via Save As from within the mesasage), eg. an rtf,  
didn't seem to work. But printing to pdf does solve the problem - a  
case of why didn't  think of that?!. It'd still be interesting to  
know how to remove the attachment though - after all, I can still  
drag an attachment out as a separate file even after the message has  
been taken out of the Apple Mail environment, so you'd think you'd  
be able to remove it.



H ! ?




Cheers, Steven


On 14/04/2009, at 10:37 AM, Robert Howells wrote:



On 14/04/2009, at 2:26 PM, Steven Knowles wrote:

Whilst an Apple Mail message is housed within Apple Mail, the  
Message  Remove Attachments function works fine.


However, if I drag an Apple Mail message from, say, an inbox to a  
folder outside of Apple Mail, and then try to Remove Attachments,  
it doesn't work.


Can anyone tell me how to remove an attachment from an email once  
that email has been dragged out of Apple Mail?


Cheers, Steven


An interesting request  ...

don't know an answer
and cannot guess what you are trying to achieve ,
or under what circumstances you would have the mail out of the  
Apple Mail !


It's easy to save the mail without the attachment as a PDF file ,
my favourite way of keeping a message  !


Bob.





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Re: Removing attachment from an Apple Mail message

[Steven Knowles]

I've heard of Cups-PDF Bob, but the MacOS Command+P process is  
straightforward enough. Although a keyboard shortcut for Save As PDF  
would be even better.



On 14/04/2009, at 10:52 AM, Robert Howells wrote:



On 14/04/2009, at 2:47 PM, Steven Knowles wrote:

Ah, now that's fine idea Bob, ie. printing to pdf. That does get  
over the problem.


And have you found the one step print to PDF    Cups-PDF
which shows like a printer in your Print Queue ( it's free )

Bob




The problem I had is that I need to save attachments as a separate  
file, but if I'm saving the attachment as a separate file, I didn't  
need to have the attachment also contained within the email message  
- just wasted disk space - and we're talking large volume, so disk  
space is a consideration. Saving the email message as some other  
kind of file (via Save As from within the mesasage), eg. an rtf,  
didn't seem to work. But printing to pdf does solve the problem - a  
case of why didn't  think of that?!. It'd still be interesting to  
know how to remove the attachment though - after all, I can still  
drag an attachment out as a separate file even after the message  
has been taken out of the Apple Mail environment, so you'd think  
you'd be able to remove it.



H ! ?




Cheers, Steven


On 14/04/2009, at 10:37 AM, Robert Howells wrote:



On 14/04/2009, at 2:26 PM, Steven Knowles wrote:

Whilst an Apple Mail message is housed within Apple Mail, the  
Message  Remove Attachments function works fine.


However, if I drag an Apple Mail message from, say, an inbox to a  
folder outside of Apple Mail, and then try to Remove Attachments,  
it doesn't work.


Can anyone tell me how to remove an attachment from an email once  
that email has been dragged out of Apple Mail?


Cheers, Steven


An interesting request  ...

don't know an answer
and cannot guess what you are trying to achieve ,
or under what circumstances you would have the mail out of the  
Apple Mail !


It's easy to save the mail without the attachment as a PDF file ,
my favourite way of keeping a message  !


Bob.


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Re: Removing attachment from an Apple Mail message

[Robert Howells]

On 14/04/2009, at 2:56 PM, Steven Knowles wrote:

I've heard of Cups-PDF Bob, but the MacOS Command+P process is  
straightforward enough. Although a keyboard shortcut for Save As PDF  
would be even better.


it is here :

http://www.codepoetry.net/projects/cups-pdf-for-mosx






On 14/04/2009, at 10:52 AM, Robert Howells wrote:



On 14/04/2009, at 2:47 PM, Steven Knowles wrote:

Ah, now that's fine idea Bob, ie. printing to pdf. That does get  
over the problem.


And have you found the one step print to PDF    Cups-PDF
which shows like a printer in your Print Queue ( it's free )

Bob




The problem I had is that I need to save attachments as a separate  
file, but if I'm saving the attachment as a separate file, I  
didn't need to have the attachment also contained within the email  
message - just wasted disk space - and we're talking large volume,  
so disk space is a consideration. Saving the email message as some  
other kind of file (via Save As from within the mesasage), eg. an  
rtf, didn't seem to work. But printing to pdf does solve the  
problem - a case of why didn't  think of that?!. It'd still be  
interesting to know how to remove the attachment though - after  
all, I can still drag an attachment out as a separate file even  
after the message has been taken out of the Apple Mail  
environment, so you'd think you'd be able to remove it.



H ! ?




Cheers, Steven


On 14/04/2009, at 10:37 AM, Robert Howells wrote:



On 14/04/2009, at 2:26 PM, Steven Knowles wrote:

Whilst an Apple Mail message is housed within Apple Mail, the  
Message  Remove Attachments function works fine.


However, if I drag an Apple Mail message from, say, an inbox to  
a folder outside of Apple Mail, and then try to Remove  
Attachments, it doesn't work.


Can anyone tell me how to remove an attachment from an email  
once that email has been dragged out of Apple Mail?


Cheers, Steven


An interesting request  ...

don't know an answer
and cannot guess what you are trying to achieve ,
or under what circumstances you would have the mail out of the  
Apple Mail !


It's easy to save the mail without the attachment as a PDF file ,
my favourite way of keeping a message  !


Bob.


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Re: Apple Mail problem

[Rob Findlay]

Try repairing your keychain. Keychain First Aid can be invoked from  
the Keychain menu in the App.


Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 23, 2009, at 2:10 PM, Adrian Skehan adrianske...@me.com wrote:

I recently set up a secondary E-Mail account with Westnet and for  
some reason I have to put the password in every time mail starts up,  
I have checked the Remember this Password box several times to no  
avail.  I have also noticed that in  
MailPreferencesAccountsPassword field, when I put the password in  
it goes blank again when I save it. Does anyone out there have a  
solution to this problem?


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Re: Apple Mail problem

[Adrian Skehan]

Thanks.  Keychain First Aid says No problems found.


Regards,

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On 23/02/2009, at 5:29 PM, Rob Findlay wrote:

Try repairing your keychain. Keychain First Aid can be invoked from  
the Keychain menu in the App.


Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 23, 2009, at 2:10 PM, Adrian Skehan adrianske...@me.com  
wrote:


I recently set up a secondary E-Mail account with Westnet and for  
some reason I have to put the password in every time mail starts  
up, I have checked the Remember this Password box several times  
to no avail.  I have also noticed that in  
MailPreferencesAccountsPassword field, when I put the password  
in it goes blank again when I save it. Does anyone out there have a  
solution to this problem?


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Regards,

Adrian

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Re: Apple Mail problem

[Rob Findlay]

Delete any reference to the account in keychain and try adding it  
again now.


On 23/02/2009, at 6:46 PM, Adrian Skehan wrote:


Thanks.  Keychain First Aid says No problems found.


Regards,

Adrian

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On 23/02/2009, at 5:29 PM, Rob Findlay wrote:

Try repairing your keychain. Keychain First Aid can be invoked from  
the Keychain menu in the App.


Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 23, 2009, at 2:10 PM, Adrian Skehan adrianske...@me.com  
wrote:


I recently set up a secondary E-Mail account with Westnet and for  
some reason I have to put the password in every time mail starts  
up, I have checked the Remember this Password box several times  
to no avail.  I have also noticed that in  
MailPreferencesAccountsPassword field, when I put the password  
in it goes blank again when I save it. Does anyone out there have  
a solution to this problem?


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Re: Apple Mail problem

[Adrian Skehan]

Thanks Rob, that appears to have fixed it.


Regards,

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On 23/02/2009, at 7:18 PM, Rob Findlay wrote:

Delete any reference to the account in keychain and try adding it  
again now.


On 23/02/2009, at 6:46 PM, Adrian Skehan wrote:


Thanks.  Keychain First Aid says No problems found.


Regards,

Adrian

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On 23/02/2009, at 5:29 PM, Rob Findlay wrote:

Try repairing your keychain. Keychain First Aid can be invoked  
from the Keychain menu in the App.


Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 23, 2009, at 2:10 PM, Adrian Skehan adrianske...@me.com  
wrote:


I recently set up a secondary E-Mail account with Westnet and for  
some reason I have to put the password in every time mail starts  
up, I have checked the Remember this Password box several times  
to no avail.  I have also noticed that in  
MailPreferencesAccountsPassword field, when I put the password  
in it goes blank again when I save it. Does anyone out there have  
a solution to this problem?


iMac G5, OS 10.5.6, Mail V3.5.

Regards,

Adrian

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Re: Apple Mail problem

[Stuart Breden]

I had the same problem and Keychain First Aid fixed it after many  
frustrating hours.


Stuart Breden
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On 23/02/2009, at 5:29 PM, Rob Findlay wrote:

Try repairing your keychain. Keychain First Aid can be invoked from  
the Keychain menu in the App.


Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 23, 2009, at 2:10 PM, Adrian Skehan adrianske...@me.com  
wrote:


I recently set up a secondary E-Mail account with Westnet and for  
some reason I have to put the password in every time mail starts  
up, I have checked the Remember this Password box several times  
to no avail.  I have also noticed that in  
MailPreferencesAccountsPassword field, when I put the password  
in it goes blank again when I save it. Does anyone out there have a  
solution to this problem?


iMac G5, OS 10.5.6, Mail V3.5.

Regards,

Adrian

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Re: Apple Mail problem

[Stuart Breden]

Adrian, did you (a) quit Mail and relaunch after first aid and (b) did  
you rebook the iMac after first aid?


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On 23/02/2009, at 6:46 PM, Adrian Skehan wrote:


Thanks.  Keychain First Aid says No problems found.


Regards,

Adrian

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On 23/02/2009, at 5:29 PM, Rob Findlay wrote:

Try repairing your keychain. Keychain First Aid can be invoked from  
the Keychain menu in the App.


Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 23, 2009, at 2:10 PM, Adrian Skehan adrianske...@me.com  
wrote:


I recently set up a secondary E-Mail account with Westnet and for  
some reason I have to put the password in every time mail starts  
up, I have checked the Remember this Password box several times  
to no avail.  I have also noticed that in  
MailPreferencesAccountsPassword field, when I put the password  
in it goes blank again when I save it. Does anyone out there have  
a solution to this problem?


iMac G5, OS 10.5.6, Mail V3.5.

Regards,

Adrian

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Re: Apple Mail problem

[Stuart Breden]

What did in fact fix it, Adrian?

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On 23/02/2009, at 7:42 PM, Adrian Skehan wrote:


Thanks Rob, that appears to have fixed it.


Regards,

Adrian

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On 23/02/2009, at 7:18 PM, Rob Findlay wrote:

Delete any reference to the account in keychain and try adding it  
again now.


On 23/02/2009, at 6:46 PM, Adrian Skehan wrote:


Thanks.  Keychain First Aid says No problems found.


Regards,

Adrian

adrianske...@me.com
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On 23/02/2009, at 5:29 PM, Rob Findlay wrote:

Try repairing your keychain. Keychain First Aid can be invoked  
from the Keychain menu in the App.


Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 23, 2009, at 2:10 PM, Adrian Skehan adrianske...@me.com  
wrote:


I recently set up a secondary E-Mail account with Westnet and  
for some reason I have to put the password in every time mail  
starts up, I have checked the Remember this Password box  
several times to no avail.  I have also noticed that in  
MailPreferencesAccountsPassword field, when I put the  
password in it goes blank again when I save it. Does anyone out  
there have a solution to this problem?


iMac G5, OS 10.5.6, Mail V3.5.

Regards,

Adrian

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Re: Apple Mail problem

[Adrian Skehan]

Hi Stuart,


Just to reiterate my problem: I was having to enter the password for a  
secondary e-mail account every time I started Mail.


To you questions: did you (a) quit Mail and relaunch after first aid  
and (b) did you rebook the iMac after first aid?  YES but it did not  
fix the problem


On Rod Findlay's suggestion I delete any reference to the account in  
keychain, started Mail and entered the password checking the remember  
box.


That has fixed the problem, which I put up with for week and found  
very annoying.




Regards,

Adrian

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On 23/02/2009, at 9:09 PM, Stuart Breden wrote:


What did in fact fix it, Adrian?


Stuart Breden
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Wk Ph: (08) 9291 4599
Mbl: 0417 053 266


On 23/02/2009, at 7:42 PM, Adrian Skehan wrote:


Thanks Rob, that appears to have fixed it.


Regards,

Adrian

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On 23/02/2009, at 7:18 PM, Rob Findlay wrote:

Delete any reference to the account in keychain and try adding it  
again now.


On 23/02/2009, at 6:46 PM, Adrian Skehan wrote:


Thanks.  Keychain First Aid says No problems found.


Regards,

Adrian

adrianske...@me.com
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On 23/02/2009, at 5:29 PM, Rob Findlay wrote:

Try repairing your keychain. Keychain First Aid can be invoked  
from the Keychain menu in the App.


Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 23, 2009, at 2:10 PM, Adrian Skehan adrianske...@me.com  
wrote:


I recently set up a secondary E-Mail account with Westnet and  
for some reason I have to put the password in every time mail  
starts up, I have checked the Remember this Password box  
several times to no avail.  I have also noticed that in  
MailPreferencesAccountsPassword field, when I put the  
password in it goes blank again when I save it. Does anyone out  
there have a solution to this problem?


iMac G5, OS 10.5.6, Mail V3.5.

Regards,

Adrian

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Apple Mail problem

[Adrian Skehan]

I recently set up a secondary E-Mail account with Westnet and for some  
reason I have to put the password in every time mail starts up, I have  
checked the Remember this Password box several times to no avail.  I  
have also noticed that in MailPreferencesAccountsPassword field,  
when I put the password in it goes blank again when I save it. Does  
anyone out there have a solution to this problem?


iMac G5, OS 10.5.6, Mail V3.5.

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How to make italics the default typing font in Apple Mail ?

[Steven Knowles]

I can't seem to get italics to reflect in the default font which is  
used by Apple Mail when typing an email.


I assume this must be done via Apple Mail  Preferences  Fonts   
Colours Message Font  Select...


I can get the font type itself to change, but when I select italics,  
using for instance font type Verdana, italics is reflected in the  
preview pane of the Fonts window, but italics is not automatically  
reflected when I begin typing a Mail message. I can manually change  
the text to italics after typing the message, but ideally I don't want  
to have to do this each time.


Any clues?

Cheers, Steven

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Re: How to make italics the default typing font in Apple Mail ?

[James / Hans Kunz]

italics is not a font, it's a font effect and normally you type in  
verdana  then select the block to make it italics, then as i  
mentioned in a earlier posting, if the receiver has not verdana (or  
the same font set installed as you) then the letter/webpage/word doc/ 
pdf file will appear different

rich text files (rtf) can store the info for italics/bold/underlined
James

On 08/02/2009, at 20:47, Steven Knowles wrote:

I can't seem to get italics to reflect in the default font which is  
used by Apple Mail when typing an email.


I assume this must be done via Apple Mail  Preferences  Fonts   
Colours Message Font  Select...


I can get the font type itself to change, but when I select  
italics, using for instance font type Verdana, italics is reflected  
in the preview pane of the Fonts window, but italics is not  
automatically reflected when I begin typing a Mail message. I can  
manually change the text to italics after typing the message, but  
ideally I don't want to have to do this each time.


Any clues?

Cheers, Steven

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Re: How to make italics the default typing font in Apple Mail ?

[Steven Knowles]

Thanks James.

If however I launch Entourage, I can go into Entourage  Preferences   
General Preferences  Fonts, then for the field HTML messages  
(proprtional) I can select Verdana Italic. Then if I create a new  
message with Entourage and start typing, I'm typing in italics. This  
also works if I reply to a message.


If Apple Mail can't do the same as Entourage on its own, anyone have  
any creative ideas on how to achieve the same? Involving Automator  
perhaps? I see in Automator's Library there is a New Mail Message   
Action, but not sure how I could drag in a pre-determined text format.


I thought about utilising Apple Mail Stationery, but then that  
wouldn't work for replying to messages.


Cheers, Steven


On 08/02/2009, at 4:13 PM, James / Hans Kunz wrote:

italics is not a font, it's a font effect and normally you type in  
verdana  then select the block to make it italics, then as i  
mentioned in a earlier posting, if the receiver has not verdana (or  
the same font set installed as you) then the letter/webpage/word doc/ 
pdf file will appear different

rich text files (rtf) can store the info for italics/bold/underlined
James

On 08/02/2009, at 20:47, Steven Knowles wrote:

I can't seem to get italics to reflect in the default font which is  
used by Apple Mail when typing an email.


I assume this must be done via Apple Mail  Preferences  Fonts   
Colours Message Font  Select...


I can get the font type itself to change, but when I select  
italics, using for instance font type Verdana, italics is reflected  
in the preview pane of the Fonts window, but italics is not  
automatically reflected when I begin typing a Mail message. I can  
manually change the text to italics after typing the message, but  
ideally I don't want to have to do this each time.


Any clues?

Cheers, Steven



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Re: How to make italics the default typing font in Apple Mail ?

[Peter Hinchliffe]

On 08/02/2009, at 10:14 PM, Steven Knowles wrote:

If however I launch Entourage, I can go into Entourage  Preferences  
 General Preferences  Fonts, then for the field HTML messages  
(proprtional) I can select Verdana Italic. Then if I create a new  
message with Entourage and start typing, I'm typing in italics. This  
also works if I reply to a message.


If Apple Mail can't do the same as Entourage on its own, anyone have  
any creative ideas on how to achieve the same? Involving Automator  
perhaps? I see in Automator's Library there is a New Mail Message   
Action, but not sure how I could drag in a pre-determined text format.


I thought about utilising Apple Mail Stationery, but then that  
wouldn't work for replying to messages.



Please remember that the email protocol does NOT support fonts, font  
styles, paragraph formatting, etc. You can set your particular client  
to do anything you like as long as it supports it, but there is  
absolutely no guarantee at all that the recipient will see any of it.  
I have a client who continues to use Pine (a pure text-based email  
client in UNIX) to read mail. It has no way to deal with any of this  
stuff.


As the sender of an email message, you have no control at all over how  
your recipient has their client set up. The best advice is to keep  
your message plain and simple. If you need to create a heavily- 
formatted message, send it as a PDF attachment. That way, you know  
they will see it the way you intended (depending on their Windows  
security settings, of course).


Microsoft have so much to answer for. They started all this nonsense...

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Query - Stationery - Apple Mail

[Steven Knowles]

Using latest version of Apple Mail.

I have a jpeg image (company logo) which I want to use as a banner in  
business emails which I send out. And I have no idea how to create  
one, but I thought I'd give the Stationery facility in Apple Mail a  
shot.


I'm sure it's more complicated than this, but for the moment I thought  
I'd try creating a new email, dragging the jpeg onto the email, and  
then Save as Stationery.


Two problems so far...

 * The jpeg is reasonably good resolution - it's about 668KB in size,  
and when opened in, say, Preview, clarity is good. After dragging into  
the body of the new email window, resolution goes downhill  
dramatically. Why is this?


 * If I Save as Stationery, and then go to use the Stationery,  
instead of the logo I get a little blue lego piece with a couple of  
question marks on the side.



Grateful for any guidance. Also happy to email the logo to anyone who  
loves doing this stuff!!


Cheers, Steven

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Re: Attachments to sent email - Apple Mail - where are they stored ?

[James Devenish]

Hi Steven,

It's quite simple in Mail. Every incoming and outgoing message is
stored in its own individual file on disk. (There are heaps of
advantages to doing it this way.) It stays there until you delete it.
When you delete it, it's gone and the disk space is immediately
reclaimed. There is no need to delete attachments unless you
personally like to do so.

Now, all internet e-mail works in a way that means all attachments
are actually part of the messages themselves (not really attachments
at all!). So, when Mail stores an e-mail in a file, the file
implicitly contains all the attachments too. When you the delete a
message in Apple Mail, the file is deleted, and hence the message and
all attachments are gone. You recover the disk space immediately.

Now to solve your problem. To delete attachments from within a message
*without* deleting the rest of the message, select the message(s), go
to the 'Message' menu, and choose 'Remove Attachments'. Done!

Regards,
James.

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