[xmail] Re: mail list problem
Hello Tony, Wednesday, April 13, 2005, 1:12:30 PM, you wrote: TS What is the bat which you say is your client? It is a very good Windows MUA, I use it too. Never had any weird error related to it though, they are very clean when it comes to following RFC's. The Bat! www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/ -- Best regards, Charlesmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: name of xmail log files is wrong
Hello Rob, Tuesday, March 29, 2005, 7:42:53 AM, you wrote: RA Sounds more like it is only a problem on the _day_ DST changes. RA DST usually changes at 02:00, so I'm guessing that on the day of change, RA when a new log is being rotated, the new day is having 1 hour adjusted when RA the file name is being calculated at 00:00 (day change) RA This should not occur, until 02:00 (dst change). RA There is a possible problem: lets say you have hourly log rotations, at RA 02:00 when the time changes back, does xmail open the 01:00 log and append? RA The scenario of adding 1 hour is not a problem, there will be one log RA 'missing', because the hour was skipped -02:00 became 03:00 Ahh, Daylight Savings Time, twice a year it comes around to screw up data logging. How do programs such as MRTG and RRD compensate for this screw up? RRD is designed so that all data must be consecutive times, and no less than one second apart, going back and redoing the hour would result in errors for the data capture routine, and skipping an hour would make a hole in the data. -- Best regards, Charlesmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com
Hello Alexander, Friday, March 11, 2005, 9:01:51 AM, you wrote: AH [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am Friday, March 11, 2005 2:30 PM: Yes, issuing at DOS prompt: nslookup -type=3DMX hotmail.com 200.231.29.10 it is being resolved without problems. =20 Below a SLOG from spool: [slog snipped] AH ..-- AH | [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# grep '(-162)' /home/src/xmail-1.21/Errors.h; AH | grep '(-232)' /home/src/xmail-1.21/Errors.h AH | #define ERR_SOCK_NOMORE_DATA(-162) AH | #define ERR_CONNECT (-232) AH *-- AH (-162) doesn't tell me a lot, but -232 (ERR_CONNECT) sounds like there AH is no possibility for xmail to connect to hotmail.com on STMP-Layer. AH --=20 AH Regards, AH Alexander Hagenah Go here, http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/[EMAIL PROTECTED] They have 16 MX servers, only 4 MX records, and you are stuck in a crap shoot. You happen to cache 4 down servers, untill you hit TTL, you are out of luck. Then you have to pray the next round gets you live servers. -- Best regards, Charlesmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Threads
Hello Dustin, Wednesday, January 19, 2005, 4:05:33 PM, you wrote: DCH I know this is pretty far off topic, but why does the thread view (both DCH in Thunderbird and the mail archive) confuse threads? At first I DCH thought it was a Thunderbird problem, but then I noticed that the thread DCH view on the mail archive was identical. For example, the first message DCH in the CPU use with 1.21 is organized under the Xmail + Imap DCH (Non-Courier) Setup message which is under the A question of DCH deliverythread. What is up with that? DCH Dustin C. Hatch DCH http://www.dchweb.com/ DCH - DCH To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in DCH the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] DCH For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to DCH [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have seen this on other lists as well. If there is strong order to the subject (I think the RE:, etc has to be before the [xmail]), subject threading works great, but if it is like this list, then, from my experience, it has to thread with the In-Reply-To: header. The problem is people generally reply to a thread, then change the subject and start a clean body, instead of typing a completely new message like you did (look in the headers, your post is missing this header, mine will have it). It may use the References: header too, I'm not totally sure, just played with it a little. -- Best regards, Charlesmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: New Admin Protocol Commands
Hello Davide, Monday, January 10, 2005, 12:37:27 PM, you wrote: DL Why would we need them? I mean, message are already rescheduled for DL delivery. I know on some other servers they allow you to browse and force resend messages, this is good when you have a long delay between reties and maybe you lost your network connection, of course, the way you handle resend scheduling, it makes less sense. The other MTA's I've used with this send all queued mail at once on a schedule. -- Best regards, Charlesmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Outlook error 0x800CCC0F
Hello Javier, Thursday, December 16, 2004, 7:00:12 AM, you wrote: JN Hi, JN We are having some problems with XMail + Outlook + Big e-mails. JN When they try to download e-mails with big attachments (4 JN MB or so) Outlook returns this error: JN Your server has unexpectedly terminated the connection. JN Possible causes for this include server problems, network JN problems, or a long period of inactivity. Account. account name, JN Server: server name, Protocol: POP3, Port: 110, Secure(SSL): N0, JN Error Number: 0x800ccc0f JN I have tested the same account and e-mail with Outlook and JN Calypso e-mail clients. Same configuration. I have set Server JN timeout to 5 minutes in outlook. Calypso downloads the e-mail JN (slowlier than usual). Outlook fails. JN I have XMail 1.20 on W2K + Jason J Ellingson AV Filter + F-Prot for DOS. JN Any ideas? JN Best regards, JN Javier Navarro I have had this problem for years with Outlook and OE for our Dial customers, regarding large emails, or even a large number of messages in the mailbox, and we have never used XMail for our customer's mail store. Changing clients always seemed to prevent it, even when running an antivirus with a POP3 proxy. Microsoft uses some bad code for determining connectivity, that falsely claims disconnect even during an unbroken transfer. BTW, I'm not usually one to knock Microsoft products, I like and use them all the time, just not for email, I use The Bat!. -- Best regards, Charlesmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Outlook error 0x800CCC0F
Hello Jason, Thursday, December 16, 2004, 9:56:36 AM, you wrote: JJE The timeout here is not because of bad Microsoft code. It is because JJE Outlook sends a retrieve command for the email. The older Norton/Symantec JJE antivirus proxy would in turn give the retrieve command to the email server. JJE Then AFTER getting the entire email and AFTER scanning it, it starts sending JJE it to Outlook. But the time that passes between outlook sending the JJE retrieve command and it getting the first bytes of the email is a very long JJE time... hence it thinks it lost connectivity. This error can occur with or without a virus scanner, especially on a slower dial link, and either a large number of messages or a very large message. -- Best regards, Charlesmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: SMTP External Authentication
Hello Dustin, Wednesday, November 17, 2004, 6:32:54 AM, you wrote: DCH I looked further into the docs on SMTP authentication, and they were no DCH help. All I got out of that was external as in another mail server. My DCH question still remains: why does external POP3 authentication not take DCH place when sending emails? It works just fine otherwise, downloading DCH messages from the server, but when I try to send a message, then I have DCH to use the password in the mailusers.tab file, which defeats the purpose DCH of having external authentication in the first place. What am I doing wrong? IT sounds like you are composing then immediately sending, in which case many MUA's do not POP3 check first, the only option is to let it stay in the outbox until a full send and recieve, or find a client that has a setting for POP before SMTP auth for immediate send. I know The Bat! can do it (http://www.ritlabs.com). -- Best regards, Charlesmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: XmailCtrl for .Net
Looks Nice J=F8rn. Shawn, Did you ever do any more work on your .NET ctrlClient object? This = appears to be a popular object to build, since there are now 3 versions, 4 if = you count the one used by XMailWAI. Also, any progress on the log analyzer? Thanks, Chuck Frolick ArgoLink.net=20 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] = On Behalf Of J=F8rn Aakre Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 3:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] XmailCtrl for .Net Hi, Just in case anyone is interested: http://jorn.aakre.no/articles/XmailCtrl/ It should be quite self-explaining so no documentation, unless anyone asks... More features from the ctrl protocol comming when I need them, or anyone asks... :) Regards, J=F8rn [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the = body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Maildir or Unix format
My main mail server is a Windows box running Ipswitch Imail and it uses mbox (unix) message stores. There are lots of file locking issues, and easy corruption of indices, not to mention disk I/O issues causing message separations to be trashed and messages running together or fragmenting breaking all messages in the store, not just one. I know Imail completely rewrites the mailbox for each operation, and I am assuming that was adopted from unix based mail servers, since I have little experience using unix/linux mail servers, I do not know what the standard is. I do not easily see how mbox would improve file system issues since it increases fragmentation. I think the issue is a balance and a matter of preference. BTW, if you look, you can set Xmail to either format, best done during initial install though, otherwise you need to find a conversion utility. Thanks, Chuck Frolick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sasa Stupar Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 3:12 AM To: Xmail-ML Subject: [xmail] Maildir or Unix format Davide, I have been looking arround about mail formats and found out interesting info on http://www.washington.edu/imap/documentation/formats.txt.html . Just a part of it what is very interesting: -- There's a general reason why file/message formats are a bad idea. Just about every filesystem in existance serializes file creation and deletions because these manipulate the free space map. This turns out to be an enormous problem when you start creating/deleting more than a few messages per second; you spend all your time thrashing in the filesystem. It is also extremely slow to do a text search through a file/message format mailbox. All of those open()s and close()s really add up to major filesystem thrashing. - Any comment on this and why Xmail is using Maildir instead of standard Unix format? Regards, Sasa -- Binary/unsupported file stripped by Ecartis -- -- Type: text/x-vcard -- File: sasa.vcf - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list?
There is also DotGNU at http://www.dotgnu.org, which looks real good. I have not seen or heard a hard line comparison though. Thanks, Chuck Frolick ArgoLink.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Mealman Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 9:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list? Installing Mono on Gentoo Linux takes one command: emerge mono. They also have Fedora, Red Hat, Debian and SUSE packages on their site. So while no, Mono doesn't come standard on Linux boxes, I don't think it's that big of a deal. -Mark On Thu, 2004-04-29 at 09:35, Shawn Anderson wrote: I am a die hard C++ programmer :) But this project would take a lot more time and require a large number of extra libraries if I were to use C++. Think XML, Database access, possible UI. All of this is part of the ...NET/Mono core library. Is installing .NET/CLI that big of a deal? Most windows machines already have it. Shawn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mikhail Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 3:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list? Hi, Oh. C#... Let's see. If I want to use your reports system, I need CLI-Mono machine (Common Language Infrastructure) be installed on my box. This is not good dependency. As far as I know modern linux distributions (SuSE, Mandrake, RedHat) do not include this machine. I could be great to use just C++ instead C#, users do not need any machine in this case to run your application. You can use C++ Qt library. Like for example Doxygen project does. Or probably Gtk+ is good enough. Another solution is java. Java machine is stable, and it is shipped with all OSes, even win has java. And one question. Will your application be commercial or free? Mikhail - Original Message - From : Shawn Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date : Wednesday, 28 April, 2004 05:00 PM Sub : [xmail] Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list? I am leaning towards .NET (and maybe Mono) for the language. I don't think I will use any database, that way it will not have any dependencies. What do you main by user and domain alias support? Tell me more. And yes the report engine will be released as open source. Also, for a front end, it could be done in anything (Perl, ASP, ASP.NET) because the actual report engine will be something that is scheduled or run with parameters and it will output the result to a file. Shawn-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fred Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 9:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list? Hi, Glad someone is thinking for writing a decent log analyzer! Here is what I think should be in your project. -Storing the data in a MySQL database? -Will you release your software under the GPL? -Written in PHP or Perl? No ASP please hehe -User and domain alias support? Will all these features your software gonna rox. 2cents -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shawn Anderson Sent: 28 avril, 2004 08:35 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list? Howdy, I am starting to create a reporting system for the XMail log files (I have been needing something for a while), so I thought I would see if anyone had their own wish list. Right now, here is what I am thinking: Features:- Automatic report generation on a scheduled time frame - Multiple output type (xml, html, etc) - Graphs Reports (all will have a date range filter) - Total summary - Total summary by log type- Summary by day/hour - Summary by incoming domain/user/ip address - Summary by outgoing domain/user/ip address - Top ten incoming domains/user/ip address - Top ten outgoing domains/user/ip address - Top ten blocked domains/users/ip address (CustomMapsList) Anyone have any thoughts and/or suggestions? Thanks Shawn- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mikhail Tchoudinov
[xmail] Re: XMail Platforms ( was Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list?)
You will find people that would argue that Linux is slower, less stable, and less secure than the BSD's, and in my experiences, it is, but more apps support Linux natively than BSD, and most hosting control panels only support certain versions of Linux (RedHat), so the prejudice is no different than Ford vs. Chevy, American Car vs. Japanese Car, what do you prefer? The reason projects like Mono and DotGnu exist is because MS intended it to be a competitive open standard to Java, which has been proven to be a closed Sun licensed product in court against MS. Thanks, Chuck Frolick ArgoLink.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Toby Reiter Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 11:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] XMail Platforms ( was Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list?) Beau, I don't think Shawn is exactly saying that, although I too am somewhat disappointed when I see someone building something for XMail in ASP/.Net. I'm pretty much 95% reluctant to install technologies on a *nix box to run MS proprietary code -- partially because of security concerns, partly because of philosophical concerns, but mostly because if I was going to use an MS-based solution, I would use an MS-based operating system. There are people who run a Windows 2003 box as just an XMail server -- to me that doesn't make sense, since with the same hardware, you could load Redhat from disk, install Xmail from RPMs and have just about the same ease of install and management as Windows 2003 (and, if I remember correctly there's a significant performance boost when using XMail on Linux). On the other hand, some people just like Windows. And there are Xmail utilities which are purely *nix based, and can't run at all on Windows -- so I guess it's not overly unfair when the tables are turned. In this case, it is possible to run .Net on a *nix box using Mono. For me, it's probably not worth it. I can understand why Shawn would want to develop using languages that he's comfortable with and which fits his solution -- quite frankly, I wouldn't develop Perl applications for deploying on a Windows box for precisely the same reasons I avoid .Net on *nix. Of course, I also avoid Windows too. Just my $0.02, Toby -- Toby Reiter mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Breezing Internet Communications http://www.breezing.com 1106 West Main Stphone:434.295.2050 Charlottesville, VA 22903fax:603.843.6931 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: CustMapsList
You could list a site like http://www.declude.com/Articles.asp?ID=97, which is a frequently updated listing of all known (to them, but a very complete list) blacklist servers. Thanks, Chuck Frolick ArgoLink.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dario Jakopec Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 6:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: CustMapsList And maybe substitute or give hints about some of these: bl.spamcop.net ipwhois.rfc-ignorant.org dsn.rfc-ignorant.org opm.blitzed.org. dnsbl.sorbs.net dnsbl.njabl.org I don't know wich works best but I'm shure they are free as spamassassin uses them as default. Ciao Dario - Original Message - From: Davide Libenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Xmail-ML [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 12:52 AM Subject: [xmail] Re: CustMapsList On Wed, 21 Apr 2004, Sasa Stupar wrote: Davide, I think it is time to remove the default settings for CustMapsList because these services (*.mail-abuse.org) are only for subscribed users. Quote: The default DNS blacklist, blackholes.mail-abuse.org, is a service offered by the Mail Abuse Prevention System (MAPS). As of July 31, 2001, MAPS is a subscription service, so using that network address won't work if you haven't subscribed. Contact MAPS to subscribe (http://mail-abuse.org/). Ok, I will. - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Outlook / xmailserver prob?
Outlook and OE both can have this issue if a second POP3 thread is started before the first one is done (yes, they forgot to code it to ignore this cycle if it is already downloading from that account). Usually an issue when someone thinks they need to check messages ever one or two minutes to see if they have new messages. It is generally recommended to have no less than 5 or 10 minutes between automated checks depending on the volume of mail left in the mailbox (the programs are slow at reconciling, especially over dial links). Been there done that many times with my customers, and on different mail servers. Apparently, if it overlaps itself, it garbages its local UID cache and re-downloads messages just to be safe. Thanks, Chuck Frolick ArgoLink.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kay Seljeseth Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 7:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Outlook / xmailserver prob? I am experiencing that mails are being downloaded multiple times by the same Outlook client. Anyone have an idea what this can be? Thx! Kay Seljeseth - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: SPF
I can see the point for worms, but spammers can simply register throw away domains to spam from and set up SPF rules that allow all from that domain. Many spammers already strictly use throwaway domains. I really see the anti-spam war as very much like the anti-virus war, anything and everything we do is designed to fight their current tactics, they evolve as quickly as needed to get the job done, and now that there is some indication that they are working together, it can only get worse. Thanks, Chuck Frolick ArgoLink.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shiloh Jennings Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 9:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: SPF The spammers are not stupid, so they don't use @[EMAIL PROTECTED] etc. anymore and SPF is useless. ;( You are missing the bigger picture. Once everybody is using SPF, the spammers will have a very difficult time trying to forge anybody's email address. This will force spammers out into the open, which will make them even easier to block. The other huge advantage of SPF is in prevention of email worms. The most popular worms use forged from addresses when they send. Those worms will get stopped dead in their tracks by SPF. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Delivery Attempts Question
It is in the manual under command line options (http://www.xmailserver.org/Readme.html#command_line) in the SMAIL section (the -Qx options), particularly the -Qi and -Qr settings. You can make it do pretty much whatever you like. Thanks, Chuck Frolick ArgoLink.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Toby Reiter Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 10:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Delivery Attempts Question All, I wanted to find out how XMail handles delivery attempts, especially in terms of number of attempts and time elapse after the first attempt before XMail calls it quits. We've noticed two things: a) When a message can't be received by anther server (i.e. a 4xx code) it stops trying to send the message after 1 day. A lot of other MTAs seem to keep trying for 7 days (trying 1x day after the first day) to send on the message. b) We have a backup MX that we generally use for our own internal use. It's also being used as the backup MX server for one of our clients who uses an Exchange server. One time last week, when the exchange server was down for a day or so, the backup MX continued trying to send on messages for the first day using SMTPRELAY, but then stopped after that. Is there any way to extend the timeout for re-sending and relaying messages? I don't remember seeing this on this list before Thanks, Toby -- Toby Reiter mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Breezing Internet Communications http://www.breezing.com 1106 West Main Stphone:434.295.2050 Charlottesville, VA 22903fax:603.843.6931 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Delivery Attempts Question
Follow up to my last post. I forgot to tell you the -Qt option as well. Thanks, Chuck Frolick ArgoLink.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Toby Reiter Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 10:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Delivery Attempts Question All, I wanted to find out how XMail handles delivery attempts, especially in terms of number of attempts and time elapse after the first attempt before XMail calls it quits. We've noticed two things: a) When a message can't be received by anther server (i.e. a 4xx code) it stops trying to send the message after 1 day. A lot of other MTAs seem to keep trying for 7 days (trying 1x day after the first day) to send on the message. b) We have a backup MX that we generally use for our own internal use. It's also being used as the backup MX server for one of our clients who uses an Exchange server. One time last week, when the exchange server was down for a day or so, the backup MX continued trying to send on messages for the first day using SMTPRELAY, but then stopped after that. Is there any way to extend the timeout for re-sending and relaying messages? I don't remember seeing this on this list before Thanks, Toby -- Toby Reiter mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Breezing Internet Communications http://www.breezing.com 1106 West Main Stphone:434.295.2050 Charlottesville, VA 22903fax:603.843.6931 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: DNS again?
10Mb to the Internet. I'm in a Time Warner Telecom Collo and they have very good connectivity, we run all 100Mb or GigE equipment, with a 10Mb ethernet drop from TWTelecom. Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Orion Productions Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 8:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: DNS again? Thanks!!! btw: wow, that downloaded fast, for a desktop machine, that is what kind of connection do you have?! - Original Message - From: Charles Frolick To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 9:44 PM Subject: [xmail] Re: DNS again? I compliled it and zipped up the binaries only at http://64.8.96.250/XMail_1.18_binonly.zip. I have not tested it, just compiled and zipped them up. Note: Compiled with MS VS.Net. Thanks, Chuck Frolick ArgoLink.net - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: DNS again?
I compliled it and zipped up the binaries only at http://64.8.96.250/XMail_1.18_binonly.zip. I have not tested it, just compiled and zipped them up. Note: Compiled with MS VS.Net. Thanks, Chuck Frolick ArgoLink.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Davide Libenzi Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 2:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: DNS again? On Tue, 24 Feb 2004, Francesco Vertova wrote: You wrote: Try 1.18: http://www.xmailserver.org/xmail-1.18.tar.gz Sorry, no compiler (running on M$ Win32) :-| I guess I'll have to make 1.18 somewhere soon (not before March 9 though because I will be travelling). - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: DNS again?
Forgot to mention, this is my desktop machine (XP Pro and firewalled), not a server and only intended to be temporary (until I get around to deleting it). That should hold up until Davide gets a chance to do the official release. Thanks, Chuck Frolick ArgoLink.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Frolick Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 2:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: DNS again? I compliled it and zipped up the binaries only at http://64.8.96.250/XMail_1.18_binonly.zip. I have not tested it, just compiled and zipped them up. Note: Compiled with MS VS.Net. Thanks, Chuck Frolick ArgoLink.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Davide Libenzi Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 2:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: DNS again? On Tue, 24 Feb 2004, Francesco Vertova wrote: You wrote: Try 1.18: http://www.xmailserver.org/xmail-1.18.tar.gz Sorry, no compiler (running on M$ Win32) :-| I guess I'll have to make 1.18 somewhere soon (not before March 9 though because I will be travelling). - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: SPF
Spamassasin doesn't do SPF? The anti-spam software I use for my main mail server does it as a content filter. (Imail with Declude Junkmail) I'm sure someone can make one or make an existing filter to use SPF, since I use Xmail for special tasks and not general mail I don't run any spam filters (anything it sees has already been filtered), and I'm not familiar enough with spamassasin to know what it can filter on. Thanks, Chuck Frolick ArgoLink.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Liron Newman Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 9:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: SPF Davide Libenzi wrote: On Wed, 18 Feb 2004, Don Drake wrote: I agree, this is getting a lot of attention lately... When more than 1% of the existing internet mail infrastructure will use it, I'll think about it. I do not want to add code to XMail for a non standard that might die tomorrow. A legitimate thought, but how about adding the ability to write some kind of plugin/filter that would do that outside of XMail (i.e. In-session filtering) - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: This is not professional
I bet you coulnd't do that on a the same box running RH 9, I loaded a similar box with RH 9 and could barely pull up X, much less load an xapp. Granted, if I trimmed it down and compiled the kernal just for that box it would probably improve, but lets be realistic, most Linux fans don't even bother anymore. And, Windows 2000 will run the GUI faster on the same box, so will the *BSD's. Thanks, Chuck Frolick ArgoLink.net -Original Message- Gustavo PD: I can see a XVID movie in a p233 - 64 Mb RAM, and more: while playing the movie I can switch *fast* between mail,=20 Mozilla Thunderbird, ICQ, and 4 file explorer windows, and . That machine have a BeOS Dev. Ed. 1.1 OS ;) - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: SMTP Dialog Filter Hooks
I belive the header can better be handled with standard filters since it is already implimented there anyway. Plus, that is asking the server to fire a separate thread to handle the filter, while still receiving DATA (which in most cases will finish long before any script fully loads and has a chance to react, and it is inaapropriate for the receiving MTA to end the DATA stream), then just send an error at the end of the DATA, saved nothing except a rejection to the other MTA. I do like the AFTER_MAIL_FROM and AFTER_RCPT_TO though, an AFTER_EHLO would be great too for EHLO/HELO checks. Something to turn all checks off for proper SMTP_Auth responses, would also be nice, or even simpler, a variable to pass to filters @@SMTP_AUTH, with auth info (user is authed, null if not, or something like that) so filters can be bypassed selectively. Just my thoughts, Chuck Frolick ArgoLink.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harald Schneider Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 7:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: SMTP Dialog Filter Hooks DATA terminates the envelope. AFTER_HEADER should be fired after the blank line, which terminates the header: MAIL FROM: ... -- AFTER_MAIL_FROM RCPT TO: ... -- AFTER_RCPT_TO DATA From: ... To: ... Subject: ... -- AFTER_HEADER [blank line] Mail body ... [dot] Each event hook should submit its preceeding data to the script: AFTER_MAIL_FROM submits the MAIL FROM line AFTER_RCPT_TO submits the RCPT TO line. AFTER_HEADER submits all lines between DATA and [blank line] There is one special thing:=20 Since there can be multiple RCPT TO lines, the event should fire with the last RCPT TO, submitting all lines before. --Harald -Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Rob Arends Gesendet: Dienstag, 3. Februar 2004 14:28 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: [xmail] Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: SMTP Dialog Filter Hooks =20 =20 Harald, How would you propose that AFTER_HEADER be pre-emted.=20 I can follow how the other hooks would work, but the after=20 header one would have to be called when DATA command is=20 issued. Otherwise how would you know when ALL the header=20 commands were sent. You would not be able to=20 terminate/reject/et before DATA, only an abrupt termination=20 of the session. Comments??? =20 Rob :) =20 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harald Schneider Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 6:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] AW: Re: AW: Re: SMTP Dialog Filter Hooks =20 AFTER_MAIL_FROM, AFTER_RCPT_TO, AFTER_HEADER (=3D3Dbefore data) would be =3D cool. =20 --Harald =20 -Urspr=3DFCngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] =20 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Rob Arends Gesendet: Dienstag, 3. Februar 2004 01:41 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: [xmail] Re: AW: Re: SMTP Dialog Filter Hooks =3D20 =3D20 I agree, you should only implement these sort of hooks on the=3D20 = =20 header. But would you call the filter at the end of the=3D20=20 header,=20 or after each line? =3D20 Rob :-)=3D20 =3D20 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harald Schneider Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 11:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] AW: Re: SMTP Dialog Filter Hooks =3D20 OK .. this is true for checking the data part. Under the=3D20 aspect of =3D3D=3D20 decoding mime mails, it isn't a trivial thing at all. =3D20 But Hooks for the envelope lines and the start of data would be=3D3D20 =3D =20 comparable easy to implement and very valuable for future script =3D3D =3D =20 extensions. =3D20 --Harald =3D20 =3D20 -Urspr=3D3DFCngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] =3D20=20 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von T. Mike Howeth Gesendet: Montag, 2. Februar 2004 07:39 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: [xmail] Re: SMTP Dialog Filter Hooks =3D3D20 =3D3D20 I add this functionality to xmail myself and it does not=3D3D20 =3D20 inordinately =3D3D3D impair performance if 1) other = changes=3D20 are=3D3D20 made=3D20 to xmail to improve its =3D3D3D intrinsic performance, 2)=3D20 the=3D3D20 checks=3D20 are aborted on messages that are long and 3) binary=3D3D20 = =3D20 messages are=3D20 correctly identified and not handled by the=3D3D20 = filter.=3D20 However, it=3D20 is not as simple as looking at each line=3D3D20 presented=3D20 after the DATA=3D20 command: to correctly interpret=3D3D20 input, the code=20 must deal =3D with=3D20 =3D3D3D message decoding on the fly=3D3D20 (quoted-printable, base64 =3D are=3D20 trivial, but MIME must =3D3D3D be=3D3D20 dealt with too)=20 and, at=3D20 a
[xmail] Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: SMTP Dialog Filter Hooks
Now if we stop and think why are we doing this, it could possibly be handled by a few more simple TAB files, with either regex or wildcarding: badfrom.tab, badrecip.tab, badehlo.tab, badptr.tab. Make these just like spammers.tab or spam-address.tab. The only filter I can think of that would require to be called would be greylisting (http://projects.puremagic.com/greylisting/), which temp errors on unknown envelopes in attemp to discourage spammers. This too could be added as a function of Xmail. I think the best use of envelope rejection are for things like greylisting or to reject tricks used by spammers but very infrequently by legit mailers. Too much envelope filtering and you end up denying legit mail rather than spam and content filtering is better suited to identify the difference (the more evidence the stronger the conviction). Thanks, Chuck Frolick ArgoLink.net P.S. If you really want to be able to handle all sorts of envelope rejection, I know Postfix can be made to do it, I've seen a couple of Postfix based gateway solutions. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harald Schneider Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 12:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: SMTP Dialog Filter Hooks I see .. reading incoming DATA (including the header) and passing control to an extenal thread while buiffers are still receiving can be tricky. YOu're right. this one should be skipped and filtes should generally be implemented after each server reply, except data: EHLO -- AFTER_EHLO MAIL FROM: ... -- AFTER_MAIL_FROM RCPT TO: ... -- AFTER_RCPT_TO DATA From: ... To: ... ... ... ... Genrally, filters must not consume more time than a return from a subroutine, which checks if a filter is plugged in. Filters should also be able to overwrite XMail's resonses. Davide, what do you think about that ? --Harald - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Error
Sorry about that, I simply provide the command, you do have to format the data correctly (i.e. you would have to type [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the data box), the server will simply reply the same way it would if a MUA or MTA sent the same text. When I find time to start coding again, I'll try to make it even more friendly, maybe filling in suggested data, but that can also be annoying. Have to think about it. Thanks, Chuck Frolick ArgoLink.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Davide Libenzi Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 11:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: Error On Fri, 16 Jan 2004, Nick Marino wrote: Trying to test my server using CHECK MTA by Chuck Frolick to test send a message when I get to the Mail From: I get this error. 451 Requested action aborted: (-31) local error in processing - Please open http://www.ifixcomputers.net/smtp_errors.html to get more information about this error to get more information about this error .. Is this bug or what? No, you are trying to do either this: MAIL FROM: ... or this: RCPT TO: ... when are requested by the RFC. - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: R: Re: cmdaliases
Set each site as sitea.bogus.net and siteb.bogus.net, set the gateway as bogus.net and use aliases in gateway to direct [EMAIL PROTECTED] to the correct server. So, if you add [EMAIL PROTECTED] you add a forwarded on the gateway (bogus.net) for [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED] If [EMAIL PROTECTED] sends email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] it will get forwarded correctly. It would be even better to have 2 domains on the two site servers, bogus.net and sitex.bogus.net, then use the two servers as your mx gateways with equal MX preference if you like. This adds redundancy load balancing and will provide the most efficient mail delivery for your scenario. Example: Site a - bogus.net only smtp forwards, sitea.bogus.net site a mailboxes Site b - bogus.net identicle set of smtp forwards, siteb.bogus.net site b mailboxes Thanks, Chuck Frolick ArgoLink.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sergio Casagrande Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 8:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] R: Re: cmdaliases Yes, I have 3 server that have the same primary domain. The gw server could be another domain, but it isn't important. We have 2 locations connected by internet and I wish create a local = server that manage the local account and the remote server that manage = the remote accounts (performance problems). Unforunately all accounts have the same domain. Sergio C. -Messaggio originale- Da: Jeffrey Laramie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Inviato: mercoled=EC 7 gennaio 2004 15.29 A: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oggetto: [xmail] Re: cmdaliases Sergio Casagrande wrote: Hi all. I need to distribute users in two servers. I have: - a domain bogus.net - a gateway server gw - server a - server b Xmail configuration: server a: domain bogus.net with bogus.net account (not ones in = server =3D b) server b: domain bogus.net with other bogus.net account (not ones in = =3D server a) gw: domain bogus.net with cmdalias/bogus.net file for every account =3D with: - SMTPRELAY server a (for server a accounts) - SMTPRELAY server b (for server b accounts) =20 So you have 3 servers that all have bogus.net as a primary domain? Why?=20 Maybe I'm missing something but wouldn't it be easier to have all the=20 accounts on one server and have the other 2 servers relay? The other 2=20 could still serve as secondaries which would give you tons of redundancy = and peak capacity. Jeff - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: XMail CTRL slow
While we are on the subject of future filter capabilites (XMail 3.0 perhaps), custom filters for envelope rejection (MAIL FROM, RCPT TO, EHLO) would be very nice. No hurry, just would be nice to have as spam control. Thanks, Chuck Frolick ArgoLink.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of S=F6nke Ruempler Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 2:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: XMail CTRL slow Hmmm, if you guys drop tons of stuff inside the filters files maybe=20 the architecture will have to change again :-/ Davide, and another problem is, if 2 processes overlap while read and write with cfgfileset/get. We now solve that client-side, but in a heterogen environment it would be better if XMail CTRL handles that. And as i mentioned, maybe filteradd/filterdel command would ne nice ;-) But i think XMail 2.0 and IMAP should have priority over this because the people are waiting ;-) - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: XMail CTRL slow
I like what you have done, but it would be nice to be able to run filters like greylisting (http://projects.puremagic.com/greylisting/), also to be able to tarpit, refuse (5xx error), or temp error (4xx) based on info in the envelope. Of course SMTP Auth would have to be able to take priority over the filters, at least optionally. Thanks, Chuck Frolick ArgoLink.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tracy Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 12:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: XMail CTRL slow It's not hard to adapt the current source code to handle this. I went through v1.17 and modified it to handle a large number of checks on envelope principals. Took about 2 days to do the mods, and another 2 - 3 days to test properly. There may still be a few bugs in what I did, but I haven't encountered them (I've been running with the mods in production for at least a month). However, I'm definitely a low-volume MX, so the mods might not stand up to higher volumes. The checks I implemented (and some of these were present already) were: // Connection (IP based) tests are placed in the first byte (bits 1 - 8) #define SMTP_FAIL_IP_SPAMMER(1 0)// IP appears in spammers.tab #define SMTP_FAIL_IP_RDNS (1 1)// IP has no RDNS defined #define SMTP_FAIL_IP_RDNS_SPAMMER (1 2)// RDNS appears in spam-rdns.tab #define SMTP_FAIL_IP_BADPTR (1 3)// RDNS ends with .in-addr.arpa #define SMTP_FAIL_IP_MAPS (1 4)// IP is listed in a DNSBL #define SMTP_FAIL_IP_RDNS_FQDN (1 5)// RDNS is not a FQDN (has no period) // HELO tests are placed in the second byte (bits 9 - 16) #define SMTP_FAIL_HELO_IPADDR (1 8)// HELO name is an IP address #define SMTP_FAIL_HELO_SPAMMER (1 9)// HELO name appears in spam-helo.tab #define SMTP_FAIL_HELO_FQDN (1 10) // HELO name is not a FQDN (check for at least one period) #define SMTP_FAIL_HELO_DNS (1 11) // HELO name does not resolve (no A record) #define SMTP_FAIL_HELO_NOTPEER (1 12) // HELO name does not match connected IP (FQDN A record lookup or IP HELO) // MAIL FROM tests are placed in the third byte (bits 17 - 24) #define SMTP_FAIL_MAIL_NULL_SENDER (1 16) // MAIL FROM: #define SMTP_FAIL_MAIL_SPAMMER (1 17) // MAIL FROM appears in spam-addresses.tab #define SMTP_FAIL_MAIL_MX (1 18) // MAIL FROM domain has no MX record #define SMTP_FAIL_MAIL_DNS (1 19) // MAIL FROM domain has no A record // Other tests (none at present) are placed in the fourth byte (bits 25 - 32) All fails are delayed until after RCPT TO (this allows me to log all pertinent information for each fail (sender IP, sender RDNS, HELO/EHLO name, MAIL FROM, RCPT TO) and allows me to whitelist by IP address (I'm planning to add RDNS whitelisting at some point), but also to allow *all* traffic for designated RCPT TO addresses (such as role accounts which are required, by RFC, to accept all mail directed to them). Most of these tests I set up to be controlled by option variables I added in server.tab. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Accepting mail from
I'd like to know why you are asking for help from the Xmail forum for an Imail server? In Imail SMTP Security Tab, check Allow Null Senders. Thanks, Chuck Frolick ArgoNet, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Liam MacKenzie Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 7:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Accepting mail from Hi all, I've just run a report on my domain and it's told me that mail servers are required by RFC to accept mail messages from Please see this page: http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=gzd.com.au Can someone shed some light on why I'm getting so many red boxes on that page? Thanks! Liam MacKenzie Global Z-Data 165 Melbourne Street South Brisbane QLD 4069 Mobile: 0403 615 103 Phone: 3846 4222 Fax:3846 0953 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Check MTA util
Do you have .Net Framework 1.1 installed? Thanks, Chuck Frolick ArgoNet, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Marino Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 6:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: Check MTA util when I run your program I get an error. application initialization error 0xc135 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Check MTA util
Which OS are you running? I have not tested it with anything other than XP and 2003, but I do not know off hand of anything that could cause issues. Thanks, Chuck Frolick ArgoNet, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Marino Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 12:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: Check MTA util yes. Maybe need to re-install it. - Original Message - From: Charles Frolick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 9:34 AM Subject: [xmail] Re: Check MTA util Do you have .Net Framework 1.1 installed? Thanks, Chuck Frolick ArgoNet, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Marino Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 6:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: Check MTA util when I run your program I get an error. application initialization error 0xc135 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 9/12/2003 Tested on: 9/15/2003 12:32:39 PM avast! is copyright (c) 2000-2003 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 9/12/2003 Tested on: 9/15/2003 12:34:45 PM avast! is copyright (c) 2000-2003 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Check MTA util
I have posted a new app to my software site at http://spamreview.argolink.net/software It is called Check MTA Response. It is just a very simple client (currently only SMTP). It's purpose is mimic a telnet session to check the server but with a dropdown for valid commands and text boxes for other info to send. I made it to help kill the typos and it is easier to copy and paste from. In the future I hope to add SMTP Auth and POP3 capabilities. Any feedback, suggestions, or bugs appreciated. Davide, if you want to put a link on your site: Description: Simple telnetish client to check the responses from the mail server. Thanks, Chuck Frolick ArgoNet, Inc. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: AW: Re: How to reject message in SMTP transaction
One thing overlooked is, viruses are not sent by properly designed MTA'a or MUA's, they are a basic SMTP engine designed to send, it will send again regardless of error received. If your AV filter knows to simply discard infected messages from forging viruses, or all viruses, most people ignore infection notifications, or have no clue what they are being told (they already don't know how to install and maintain an AV program, much less react to an infection). Thanks, Chuck Frolick ArgoNet, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harald Schneider Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 8:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] AW: Re: How to reject message in SMTP transaction I also would appreciate a scripting hook on SMTP level. This would open = up alot of exciting possibilities. E.g. limiting the number of connections by sending 'Too busy, try = later', eventually message size checking etc. --Harald -Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Michal=20 Altair Valasek Gesendet: Mittwoch, 27. August 2003 15:10 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: [xmail] Re: How to reject message in SMTP transaction =20 =20 =20 |Yes would be great function, if you think of Sobig and that=3D20 |'virus detected' messages. =20 Yes, I am. Being spammed by them, I am writing new version of my FLAVS filter. I cannot silently discard messages (because I am not=20 sure if its virus or not, I am checking only content-type and file names), but I = =3D want to cause as less problems as possible. =20 | And i think the SMTP protcol allows it that the=3D20 |server says 'no' |to the mail after the data command and the '.' - am i right? =20 Yes, you are - this is the place where SMTP server should=20 handle things =3D like message too big or mailbox full. The main problem is that=20 you must =3D keep open TCP connection, while filter(s) are executing, which may - for long-time running filters and systems under heavy load -=20 cause problems. =3D But I think that it should be a option. =20 Now we can see, that antivirus and such systems can cause the same, = =3D maybe even bigger problems as the virus itself: it's easy to handle=20 viruses, =3D not thousands of technicaly legitimate NDR's they cause. So I am=20 trying to =3D write and configure everything in my jurisdiction to behave well=20 and not cause unnecessary problems and load. =20 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] =20 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: General MTA question
Don't use Outlook or OE, they are notorious for this. Also, if client side pop3 virus scan is running, it is acting as a proxy, might try w/o it running (can cuse false delays due to mime decoding and decompression of some attachments). Our solution is generally to move the big message elsewhere, then back in for download by itself. I can choke with Outlook across 10Mb if there are a large number of messages (1000). Thanks, Chuck Frolick ArgoNet, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Huseyin Ulker Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 3:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] General MTA question Hi, this is not a Xmail question but a general MTA question. I know the profession level of ppl here so i thought this is the best place to ask. Some of our clients complain about their MUAs giving request timed out messages. In the middle of the mail fetching process (like; 3 of 22 messages are downloaded) they say their MUA stops responding. It usually happend on a big sized e-mail. Is there anything that we can do on our side to make this work for them. Most of these ppl use dsl or faster so they shouldnt have connection problems. What may be the problem and what could be done on MTA side? Thanks in advance. -shane - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: .NET library for the CTRL server - feature requests anyone?
Any progress on this? Have not seen anything about this since May. Thanks, Chuck Frolick ArgoNet, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Aranki Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 10:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] .NET library for the CTRL server - feature requests anyone? Hi, I will be releasing a beta version of a .NET library for the CTRL client. It does actual socket connects, etc, so that you can set it up on a remote server for administration, etc (nice to have so that you can have a central admin server [web front end] for an entire web farm). Right now, it is a simple synchronous socket client that wraps all the ctrl client functions (actually, I have not completed 2 of them yet), for example: Ctrl ctrl = new Ctrl(my.emailserver.org, 6017, myusername, mypassword); string mailingListUser = ctrl.ListMailingListUsers(myDomain.com, myMailingList)); Right now, it will just return the server response (RESSTRING from the docs). Before I release the beta, I figured I would ask for any feature requests from the communityso request away! :) Thanks! -tim - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: .NET library for the CTRL server - feature requests anyone?
Cool, I am very interested, and unfortunately do not have the time to even attempt, not to mention haven't done any sockets programming before. Thanks, Chuck Frolick ArgoNet, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shawn Anderson Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 11:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: .NET library for the CTRL server - feature requests anyone? I am almost ready to release :) Shawn=20 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] = On Behalf Of Charles Frolick Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 11:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any progress on this? Have not seen anything about this since May. Thanks, Chuck Frolick ArgoNet, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Aranki Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 10:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] .NET library for the CTRL server - feature requests = anyone? Hi, I will be releasing a beta version of a .NET library for the CTRL = client. It does actual socket connects, etc, so that you can set it up on a = remote server for administration, etc (nice to have so that you can have a = central admin server [web front end] for an entire web farm). Right now, it is a simple synchronous socket client that wraps all the = ctrl client functions (actually, I have not completed 2 of them yet), for example: =20 Ctrl ctrl =3D new Ctrl(my.emailserver.org, 6017, myusername, mypassword); string mailingListUser =3D ctrl.ListMailingListUsers(myDomain.com, myMailingList));=20 =20 Right now, it will just return the server response (RESSTRING from the docs). Before I release the beta, I figured I would ask for any feature requests from the communityso request away! :) =20 Thanks! -tim =20 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the = body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the = body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Filter poll ...
Because as soon as it is global, you will have someone with a very good
reason to make two :)
Other than that, at the moment I can't think of one.
Thanks,
Chuck Frolick
ArgoNet, Inc.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Davide Libenzi
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 2:27 PM
To: XMail mailing list
Subject: [xmail] Filter poll ...
Right now the break filter return flag makes XMail to exit from the
current .tab loop, but not from the filter.{in,out}.tab one. If someone
does not give me a very good reason to have two break flags (one to exit
from the current .tab and one from the filter.{in,out}.tab one) I'm
going
to convert the local break flag to a global one.
- Davide
-
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in
the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in
the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: LIFO format ?
Why change the mail serve? Just fix the script. Almost any MUA can do it no matter what order the messages are in, why can't your script use the same method? Keep a copy of UID list from the last POP3 session and any new UID's are the new messages, if you only want the last 10 and there are 20, TOP the headers out and order tham by the Date: header. This way your script will work with almost any MTA (I hear some do not support UID's). Thanks, Chuck Frolick ArgoNet, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Devoyon Guillaume Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 7:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: LIFO format ? Would it be possible to do an filter ?? Where can i have info about creating an filter in order to sort mails in the spool ? The problem is , if we can't have mails in lifo format, we will have to change of mail server and it's a little bit disappointing me to do that.. Guillaume Devoyon -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] la part de Davide Libenzi Envoye : jeudi 26 juin 2003 18:36 A : Xmail Objet : [xmail] Re: LIFO format ? On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Devoyon Guillaume wrote: Hello, I've posted a message about my problem but with no reponse that agree my thinking ;-) So i ask you there.. I've made an script in perl that read mails on servers using the pop protocol. This script enable me to read my mails on the server. With traditionnals pop server it's working fine because when the script ask to read the last 10 messages i receive them in LIFO format (Last in, first OUt). When i do the same thing on xmail server (ver 1.10) the list is not in LIFO format.. So i'm not able to read them in order. Is there a way to put mails in lifo format when reading in pop protocol ??? Nope. You just do a list and pick up the latest. - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: LIFO format ?
I forgot about that, it wouldn't take much at all to fix the script. I'm also sure there is a MUA out there that does everything he is looking for without him writing a single line of code. Thanks, Chuck Frolick ArgoNet, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Davide Libenzi Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 10:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: LIFO format ? It's even easier. The first token ( '.' separator ) of the UID is the message timestamp. Sorting can be done with one line of perl code. It is obviously easier to upload work on the server though. I don't think so. - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: A Question...
I'm failing to see the whole point in this. The only difference between a custom ctrlclnt command and a custom program that uses existing ctrlclnt commands is one is on the server the other can be remote or on the server. The sequence of actions and commands in your disable pop3 example would be identacle. You still have to list all accounts in a domain, and then modify each user.tab file independantly, just do it from one of the many ctrlclnt modules for your favorite scripting or programming environment. Thanks, Chuck Frolick ArgoNet, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shawn Anderson Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 10:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: A Question... Ok, what if when the script was registered it needs to define which = files it was going to access? Then the code could add a lock for those files and = the release them with the process exits. Shawn=20 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] = On Behalf Of Davide Libenzi Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 11:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, 27 Jun 2003, Shawn Anderson wrote: I was thinking more of a plugin as a standalone external application = =3D=20 (.exe, ..pl, js, etc). Not a DLL concept -- too much of a hassle for=20 stability. =3D If you spawn a process and it crashes, it will not take = down Xmail. No as =3D for the resource locking, that is a more=20 interesting problem -- but isn't it only an issue for the items that=20 are currently indexed? No, each file need locking when accessed. XMail implements a multiple = reader single writer locking on every file. - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the = body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: LIFO format ?
Ok, you completely misunderstood. Simply send the POP3 command UIDL to the server, take the resulting list of message numbers and UID's in the format of msgnum, space, UID. The UID has a format of (Davide correct me if I'm wrong, this is from the local mail name format) stime-seqnr.pid.hostname. If you sort the UID list by the stime-seqnr segment ascending, the message numbers will be in LIFO order, I believe you can even RETR UID to get the message without even using message number (although I may be wrong, I don't do much POP3 without a MUA or component written to do most of the work for me, why waste time reinventing the wheel). Thanks, Chuck Frolick ArgoNet, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Devoyon Guillaume Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 11:08 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: LIFO format ? well, you are all right except one thing what my program is for. My script is made in order to read email to pop server in live throw slow flow connections (9600bds). So, i will not tell to my program to load all mails (if there are 200) and next, sort them. The thing is that commercials emails programs like lotus notes or exchange have this option of lifo but not xmail (not commercial it's right ;-) ) So i'm looking if i could sort mails without collecting them via my program best regards Guillaume -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] la part de Charles Frolick Envoye : vendredi 27 juin 2003 17:25 A : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet : [xmail] Re: LIFO format ? I forgot about that, it wouldn't take much at all to fix the script. I'm also sure there is a MUA out there that does everything he is looking for without him writing a single line of code. Thanks, Chuck Frolick ArgoNet, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Davide Libenzi Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 10:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: LIFO format ? It's even easier. The first token ( '.' separator ) of the UID is the message timestamp. Sorting can be done with one line of perl code. It is obviously easier to upload work on the server though. I don't think so. - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: A Question...
My responses are inline. Thanks, Chuck Frolick ArgoNet, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shawn Anderson Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 12:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: A Question... True, but I picked the example that I gave because it was simple to = outline :) Here are a couple of other uses: - A new userstats that returns info like - last login - last client domain name (RDNS lookup) R These should be able to be run server side, if I remember correctly a file is created in the user mailbox with the needed info on POP3, use cfgfileget - total amount of spam the user received today=20 R changes depending on the spam software so it couldn't be universal, but if you can make your sw increment a counter in the MailRoot and use cfgfileget - a server stats - total logins - startup time - current memory usage - etc. R These would require api from XMail - alter the startup parameters - restart xmail to pickup changes - etc. R These you can do through many other means, if you are running a web based admin package, run it on your XMail server and add scripts to modify the startup or run a restart batch or script Basically, the reason for the request to so that more complete remote = manage application can be written :) It would be great is the ctrl protocol = could grow so that a complete xmail environment could be managed (spam, xmail server startup parameters, other external tools, etc). All of the ideas = that I have are things that cannot be done using the existing ctrl protocol. Shawn - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: A Question...
I'm saying you can do most of it without changing a thing in Xmail, except those things that would require an API or change in tracking and reporting in the Xmail service itself (uptime, session count, total logins is log parsing), although you can find memory and cpu through third pary apps (ps in *nix). Many things you ask for do not exist in many MTA's. We use Ipswitch Imail ($1500 for the version that hosts more than 5 domains) for our primary mail store and it has nothing even close to ctrlclnt for functionality, the web mail system is a basic account manager/webmail, nothing more, adding/deleting domains, configuring MTA settings, and the like must be done at the GUI console, I actaully use my spam software to hold all mail for suspended doamins so I wouldn't have to suspend pop boxes one by one. I would rather see Davide add more advance SMTP envelope rejection abilities than extended ctrlclnt. To be able to perform basic tests on HELO/EHLO, MAIL FROM, and RCPT TO, failed SMTP auth tarpitting or temp blocking on IP, things like that. Thank you, Chuck Frolick ArgoNet, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shawn Anderson Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 2:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: A Question... So basically you are agreeing with me? Shawn=20 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] = On Behalf Of Charles Frolick Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 2:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My responses are inline. Thanks, Chuck Frolick ArgoNet, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shawn Anderson Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 12:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: A Question... True, but I picked the example that I gave because it was simple to =3D outline :) Here are a couple of other uses: - A new userstats that returns info like - last login - last client domain name (RDNS lookup) R These should be able to be run server side, if I remember correctly a file is created in the user mailbox with the needed info on POP3, use cfgfileget - total amount of spam the user received today=3D20 R changes depending on the spam software so it couldn't be universal, but if you can make your sw increment a counter in the MailRoot and use cfgfileget - a server stats - total logins - startup time - current memory usage - etc. R These would require api from XMail - alter the startup parameters - restart xmail to pickup changes - etc. R These you can do through many other means, if you are running a web based admin package, run it on your XMail server and add scripts to = modify the startup or run a restart batch or script Basically, the reason for the request to so that more complete remote = =3D manage application can be written :) It would be great is the ctrl = protocol =3D could grow so that a complete xmail environment could be managed = (spam, xmail server startup parameters, other external tools, etc). All of the ideas =3D that I have are things that cannot be done using the existing = ctrl protocol. Shawn - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the = body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Increase sending speed
Try increasing the Smail threads since they are te ones outgoing, SMTP only affects receive. Thanks, Chuck Frolick ArgoNet, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Young Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 10:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: Increase sending speed Solution should be free and hopefully using the system we currently have with Win2003 and Xmail. It looks like there are about 20-ish outbound SMTP connections from Xmail through the firewall at any one time. I really want to increase this amount if at all possible. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Stebbings Sent: 26 June 2003 16:20 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: Increase sending speed Do you have a budget for new software or solutions must be free? David -Original Message- From: Alex Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 June 2003 16:12 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Increase sending speed =20 =20 =20 We have a 2mb connection. It is running at around 40-50% capacity. We have 27k email in the XMail queue. This is running on Windows 2003. Anyway to get more emails to send at the same time so it will=20 clear the queue quicker? =20 I tried to increase the number of SMTP threads to 128 and 256 and it didn't seem to make any difference. =20 Please, no suggestions of Linux. Managers thinks Linux is for hackers and other scary people. They wont even consider it as they=20 believe it is too difficult to use. They also have no one other than me who has had any experience with it. =20 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] =20 =20 __ __ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk __ __ =20 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: how can I send to AOL users
Oh, man! Been reading the thread from hell over this on another list. You have to get your ISP to change your PTR to not look like it belongs to any sort of cable/dial/dsl connection. They are scanning the PTR record and claiming that there is no reason for cable/dial/dsl users to ever directly connect to one of their servers. Thanks, Chuck Frolick ArgoNet, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of webmaster Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 1:00 PM To: Xmail Subject: [xmail] how can I send to AOL users AOL seems to have put forth effort to stop spam and its causing me a slight headache. At home I am on cable and it is a dynamic ip but changes rare (like 6 months or more before I get a new ip) and at work I have cable and static. Yet AOL insists on not relayinh my emails sent to legit aol users. [HERE IS THE PROBLEM] [00] XMail bounce: [EMAIL PROTECTED];Error=[554- The IP address you are using to connect to AOL is a dynamic (residential) 554- IP address. AOL will not accept future e-mail transactions from this IP 554- address until your ISP removes this IP address from its list of dynamic 554- (residential) IP addresses. For additional information, please visit 554 http://postmaster.info.aol.com.] [01] Error sending message [1398506025741.1868.tbf02] from [thebatchfile.com]. ID:S479C Mail From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rcpt To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Server:xk.mx.aol.com [64.12.138.57] [02] The reason of the delivery failure was: 554- The IP address you are using to connect to AOL is a dynamic (residential) 554- IP address. AOL will not accept future e-mail transactions from this IP 554- address until your ISP removes this IP address from its list of dynamic 554- (residential) IP addresses. For additional information, please visit 554 http://postmaster.info.aol.com. I have tried to mess with the smptgw.tab but either I dont knwo what im doing or it just didnt work. Any Suggetions? - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: how can I send to AOL users
One of the people invloved in the discussion on the other list works for AOL, and he confirmed it is purely a regex against the PTR record looking for keywords that indicate dial/dsl/cable users. E.g. if it contains cm, dsl, pool, dial, etc. anywhere from the third level up (127.0.0.1.dsl-city.domain.tld, but not blah.mydsl.tld) they will deny it. Thanks, Chuck Frolick ArgoNet, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 3:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: how can I send to AOL users Odds are that AOL has subscribed to a DNSBL that lists dynamic IP addresses, and your IP address is showing up in there. This means that *nothing* you can do on your end will fix this - your only hope is getting your ISP to assign you an address which is not listed in whichever DNSBL that AOL is using. There is at least one dialup.abuse.net (I believe) RBL subscription and they must be using it or another. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Faked MAIL FROM
Just read through a lengthy discussion on another list about this very feature which was just implimented on the other MTA I use as a spam prevention. Some points broght up are that it can never be trusted as a true yes or no, both have false positive potential, and that repeated sessions of this type from your MTA may end up being treated as a low impact dictionary attack against the remote MTA, casusing your server to be blacklisted. If you saw multiple dataless sessions from a remote MTA to invalid and valid accounts, what would you think they were doing? Thanks, Chuck Frolick ArgoNet, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leonardo Cabral Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 9:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: Faked MAIL FROM Davide Libenzi wrote: XMail will try to get MX for bbb.comand it'll fail the message will be rejected (obviously if bbb.com is not local). Then XMail will connect to port 25 of the MX record and : HELO xxx MAIL FROM: RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] QUIT If the response of the RCP is a failure, the account aaa does not exist on the bbb.com domain and hence it is faked. - Davide Well, Davide, I'm not sure if it's a good idea to implement this because many server can be configured to never say that a user does not exist, and others like antivir mail gate always accepts mails for a domain as they are just wrappers for that domain. As you know the VRFY command is optional in many servers (with optional I mean that if it's implemented it can also be deactivated by configuration) for security reasons. Well, saying that a mailbox exists or not after receiving the RCPT TO: parameter has the same effect of using VRFY. There will be even problems with domains with misconfigured MX records. So, it maybe will be a waste of time implementing and using this function. Don't you agree? Leonardo Cabral - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Help
I should be able to with VS .Net on my desktop. I will make the test copy on my destop a debug build, and if Xmail locks on my production server again I will move the spool directory to my desktop for debugging, and send my finding to you directly. It seems to be a rare instance since it ran since the release of 1.15 until Friday no issues, but 1.14 locked twice in limited testing (1.12 was on the production server at the time, I was kicking some traffic to the 1.14 server when you announced 1.15 would fix the issue). Thanks, Chuck Frolick ArgoNet, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Davide Libenzi Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 11:31 AM To: XMail mailing list Subject: [xmail] Re: Help On Tue, 27 May 2003, Charles Frolick wrote: I fully intend to help, that's why I asked about pulling the spool files and reinserting them, posibly in a different server, to run testing while keeping the production box in working order. I will play a little with it and write a program to manage it (archive all files in spool, clear the spool, restart the service), a simple batch file should do. I was just wondering about unusual behavior from putting spool files back in the spool dir or taking the spool files from one machine to another. Are you able to build a debug version of XMail ? Do you have a debugger ? - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Filter structure v1.14
I personally think the new structure offers much more flexibility, the only thing it lacks is use the least general rule that applies. Thanks, Chuck Frolick ArgoNet, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Theo Rosbag Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 2:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Filter structure v1.14 Hello, Why this strange filtersolution for incoming and outgoing mail? Wasn't it better to do this like this: /mailroot/filters for genral filters (incoming and outgoing mailfilters ) /mailroot/filters/out for outgoing mailfilters /mailroot/in for incoming mailfilters . With the same .tab structure as earlier xmail releases . This seems to me more flexible and easyer to administrate than the current strucrure . or am i wrong? -- Regards, Theo. -- Invalid information found in the phone book. -Overzicht lijnmonitoren : http://lijnmonitor.thbird.org/overzicht -Kwaliteitstest Cistron Backbone : http://lijnmonitor.thbird.org -Xmail Script-Page: http://xmail.thbird.org -Uptime thbird.org:66 days, 2 hours and 8 minutes, 0 users logged in. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: help (fwd)
Microsoft KB article about it: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;74496 Another one describing how to remove them if they somehow exist: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;120716 Interesting since it appears to use some built in bypasses for the DEL and RD commands. This one provides some background as why: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;71843 No explaination as to why dev.* causes any problems, maybe the treat anything past the dot as parameters for the device, who knows, anybody know a MS solution provider to ask? Chuck Frolick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Davide Libenzi Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 11:24 AM To: XMail mailing list Subject: [xmail] Re: help (fwd) On Wed, 2 Apr 2003, Thomas Berger wrote: Calin Florescu wrote: Apparently it's impossible to create on Windows a file or a folder having the name starting with com followed by a digit (0-9) and dot . (com4.com.br, com1.ro or com9.). Probably because is similar with serial ports notation. It *is* DOS device notation: Those special files do exist everywhere, therefore you don't have to redirect to /dev/something but can use something whereever you are. com1 prn lpt nul might be fine, even if I prefer the /dev/com1 notation that enables myself to have a com1 file name in another directory. com1[.*] is definitely *not* OK to be treated as special file. - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
