Ryan Snowden wrote:
Can anyone tell me what the wonderbox in the middle is? It looks akai-ish!
Looks like an MPC-2000 or MPC-2000XL to me...
Desperately seeking Kraftwerk:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/fridayreview/story/0,12102,1004937,00.html
(With a mention of Karl Bartos' appearance at the London ICA recently)
- Greg
JT/313,
Yeah, the whole wave thing is a tad confusing, maybe we should put mixes
together from all the waves to present day so people can get a grasp on the
history, I know it all sounds a bit crass but it would help people get into
it more.
So today's question would be who would be it which
So today's question would be who would be it which wave, lets start with
the
first.
Cybotron
Number of Names
This is what I think:
First Wave:
---
Juan Atkins, Marty Bonds, Derrick May, Kevin Saunderson, Blake Baxter,
Anthony Shakir, Eddie Fowlkes
Second Wave:
So what are the music (techno/house/disco/funk/etc...) related blogs that
you recommend?
Thanks,
Maarten
First Wave:
---
Juan Atkins, Marty Bonds, Derrick May, Kevin Saunderson, Blake Baxter,
Anthony Shakir, Eddie Fowlkes
Well don't forget Alan Oldham, dunno if he is 1st or 2nd wave but i
have been told that his radio show was quit influential
Second Wave:
He's one of the dullest DJs I've ever heard - I have a mix CD of his which is
OK but the 2 times I have heard him, he has played very boring loopy crap - he
is a very skilled DJ but all the tricks in the world won't stop me falling
asleep
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From: ian cheshire
A friend of mine goes on about him being one of the most talented DJs
in the UK too but when I heard him I also fell into a deep slumber
Jason
On Friday, July 25, 2003, at 11:13 AM, Robert Taylor wrote:
He's one of the dullest DJs I've ever heard - I have a mix CD of his
which is OK but
First Wave:
---
Juan Atkins, Marty Bonds, Derrick May, Kevin Saunderson, Blake Baxter,
Anthony Shakir, Eddie Fowlkes, Alan Oldman, Greg and Ken Collier, Mojo,
Richard Davies,
There's a good few Helsinki record shops listed in Hyperreal's Rotator
locator, most of them have websites so you can check out which ones are
313ish beforehand. Record shopping in Helsinki isn't the cheapest of
activitites unless it's Finish releases you are after.
First Wave:
---
Juan Atkins, Marty Bonds, Derrick May, Kevin Saunderson, Blake Baxter,
Anthony Shakir, Eddie Fowlkes
Well don't forget Alan Oldham, dunno if he is 1st or 2nd wave but i
have been told that his radio show was quit influential
...and wasn't James Pennington
MM MPC2000XL
Looks sexy
Cheers chaps
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I too didn't think much of Sims until the fourth time I heard him. I think
sometimes you can hear a DJ a few times not hear them at their best. With
Rolando I thought he was brilliant the first time I heard him, but I've
heard him about four times since he's never been as good.
My theory is
The loop-based sets that Ben plays aren't really a good indication of his
skills. His knowledge of electronic music is very wide and he is definitely one
of the most technically skilled DJs on the circuit, but I agree that this
doesn't make a whole set of loops very interesting.
You should
A technicallyt skilled dj is not a good dj, i don't care if a dj misses
a beat as longs as the music is good Ben Sims choice of records is
way to boring for me :)
KJ
On vrijdag, jul 25, 2003, at 11:40 Europe/Amsterdam, Sean Creen wrote:
The loop-based sets that Ben plays aren't really
Juan Atkins, Marty Bonds, Derrick May, Kevin Saunderson, Blake Baxter,
Anthony Shakir, Eddie Fowlkes, Alan Oldman, Greg and Ken Collier, Mojo,
Richard Davies,
Must be Alan Oldham ;)
The list looks good.
I added T-1000 (Alan Oldham) as a 3rd wave dj because he started producing
in that era,
...and wasn't James Pennington also producing back then as Suburban
Knight???*
Yep.. the knight is first wave... he did the bassline on big fun.
Cheers,
Maarten
you know what, i've always thought the use of the term 'waves' when
talking about detroit techno was a bit wrong headed and i'd not figured
out why i've thought this until now...
the problems i have with this are that firstly i've always thought that the wave
thing was used by people who had
On vrijdag, jul 25, 2003, at 11:44 Europe/Amsterdam, Maarten Baute
wrote:
Juan Atkins, Marty Bonds, Derrick May, Kevin Saunderson, Blake Baxter,
Anthony Shakir, Eddie Fowlkes, Alan Oldman, Greg and Ken Collier,
Mojo,
Richard Davies,
Must be Alan Oldham ;)
The list looks good.
I added
I too didn't think much of Sims until the fourth time I heard him. I think
sometimes you can hear a DJ a few times not hear them at their best. With
Rolando I thought he was brilliant the first time I heard him, but I've
heard him about four times since he's never been as good.
My theory
While I agree Robin, I'm not trying to make this into a year zero thing,
no point really. What I'm interested in doing is getting a good list
together of the players, doing a mix of the tunes and adding some biog info.
We could always do a mix of tunes that influenced the first wave, there's
Given UR 'militant' 'afrocentric' stance on politics, society does anyone know
if there was any interaction/communication between them and PE or Mad Mike and
Chuck D ?
Thanks
Whehe
http://www.blakebaxterdetroit.com/video/blake.ram
Cycling is cool ;)
Cheers,
Maarten
hi martin,
don't get me the wrong way, i think history of this stuff is very
important and sometimes it's good to have this stuff down in a way that
isn't jounalism with an agenda (see blogs stuff etc). i like the way
you're headed with this tho.
i'm complaining about waves in the same way i
Well i know that Terminator X does play at Hypnotech parties, so i
think they know of each other...
On vrijdag, jul 25, 2003, at 12:02 Europe/Amsterdam, Mann, Ravinder
[CCS] wrote:
Given UR 'militant' 'afrocentric' stance on politics, society does
anyone know if there was any
thanks for the link! it has made me want to visit detroit even more, i'm a
suclker for urban landscapes :)
was wondering what the track with the girl singing is...sounds like miss
kittin, is it her?
thanks
fab
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From: Maarten Baute [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
was wondering what the track with the girl singing is...sounds like miss
kittin, is it her?
Featuring the songs: ONE MORE TIME , and WHEN WE USED 2 PLAY. Video by
Blake Baxter...
Cheers,
Maarten
thanks Maarten,
i know nothing of BB
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From: Maarten Baute [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Fabrizio Nahum [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: (313) blake on the bike
was wondering what the track with the girl singing
Shake said to me last week that the only people interested in history are
historians, I disagree :)
The amount of times we've played out at clubs and people have asked me what
kind of dance music is this? or is this classed as techno?.
I do know what you mean about putting things in a box but
Is it 'afrocentric'?
Or is it 'just' revolutionary and iconoclaustic? Those demarcations aren't
mutually exclusive but I'd say that if there is a message in UR and PE, it's
wider than being 'merely' 'afrocentric'.
k
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From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Well certainly revolutionary as it calls for reform...had the check the
dictionary for the meaning of iconoclastic..
One who attacks and seeks to overthrow traditional or popular ideas or
institutions So yes.
But I would still say afrocentric point of view as PE's message is mostly the
view of
Second Wave:
Mark Kinchen
Who's that ?? never heard of him... looked him up on Discogs, he has quite a
number of remixes, that's all... has he released 12s or LPs on his own ?
Gwendal
Second Wave:
Mark Kinchen
Who's that ?? never heard of him... looked him up on Discogs, he has quite
a number of remixes, that's all... has he released 12s or LPs on his own
?
He is also recording as MK, he did a track for retroactive records and had a
label of his
Also released under 'seperate mind... We need somebody/ ist bass on
express records...
On 25/7/03 12:23 pm, Maarten Baute [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Second Wave:
Mark Kinchen
Who's that ?? never heard of him... looked him up on Discogs, he has quite
a number of
He also was part of Seperate Minds...
On vrijdag, jul 25, 2003, at 13:23 Europe/Amsterdam, Maarten Baute
wrote:
Second Wave:
Mark Kinchen
Who's that ?? never heard of him... looked him up on Discogs, he has
quite
a number of remixes, that's all... has he released
at last.
I got some new records.
amongst other things, I just picked up;
New Mahogani 12 - 4 tracker from Andres
New Sound Signature - Best one for a while.
both good.
_
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at last.
I got some new records.
amongst other things, I just picked up;
New Mahogani 12 - 4 tracker from Andres
New Sound Signature - Best one for a while.
both good.
_
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Well certainly revolutionary as it calls for reform...had the
check the dictionary for the meaning of iconoclastic..
One who attacks and seeks to overthrow traditional or popular
ideas or institutions So yes.
Yeah agreed, s'what I meant.
But I would still say afrocentric point of view as PE's
at last.
I got some new records.
amongst other things, I just picked up;
New Mahogani 12 - 4 tracker from Andres
New Sound Signature - Best one for a while.
both good.
so good you mailed in twice :)
that Sound Signature has a track on it (Friendly Children) that is in the
same vein as
Oi!
I'm looking for this ancient techno (rave?) track which uses the female
voce sample Let me feel it once more.
The breakbeat track Let me feel it once more from Omer Crooks uses this
sample too but I remember it in a techno track (1994).
And if I remember it correctly, it's from some
I do know what you mean about putting things in a box but this is how the
kids of today understand things and they are the ones who are going to be
buying the tunes, the least we could do is give them a clue and keep it
interesting. Lets give them a box of cool stuff to download/read and if
sorry, I forgot to categorise the new releases into waves...
I do apologise.
SS018 - 21st wave
Mahogani 4 - Royal 'queen type' wave
Alex
my motto for today? as mr pullen once said *WAVE THE WAVE GOODBYE*
_
Yeah, the whole wave thing is a tad confusing, maybe we should put mixes
yeah..i think i am with robin on the waves thing...but more mixes/comps
would be cool yes ;P kinda like retakes on the original Techno comps, 10+
years later, which is not a bad idea at all...for those who like history
afternoon,
i just took delivery of an order from Submerge, and in with the package
was a postcard listing the following forthcoming releases...
UR-053 Perv-Tech ep. produced by Chaos aka Marc Floyd
UR-058 The Actuator ep. produced by UR (also available on 7)
UR-059 Aquila produced by Aztec
In that case, then include Art Forest in that group. He did drums (could be
mistaken) on early Inner City stuff.
-Original Message-
From: Maarten Baute [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 5:45 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Fw: (313) many waves
...and wasn't James
written in a chilled voice, drinking tea
I do know what you mean about putting things in a box but this is how the
kids of today understand things and they are the ones who are going to be
buying the tunes, the least we could do is give them a clue and keep it
interesting. Lets give them a
You left out Rob Hood from the second wave.
_d
-- Original Message -
Subject: Re: (313) 29 Detroit 12s
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 10:56:32 +0200
From: Maarten Baute [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org
So today's question would be who would be it
UR-058 The Actuator ep. produced by UR
UR-060 Aquanauts ep. produced by The Aquanauts (also available on 7)
has anyone heard these?
does anyone know about 'the aquanauts'
and whats the deal with the 7s?
_
-
I read somewhere that blake baxter did the bassline on 'kaos'...
Got to be one of my fav all time, all wave, all anything top 10 tunes
On 25/7/03 3:06 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In that case, then include Art Forest in that group. He did drums (could be
mistaken) on
Hi,
I really appologize for posting again a trainspotting alike question.
But I was wondering if the versions of i can´t kick this feeling when it
hits and music people on the kdj 12 are different from the album
versions released on silent introduction on planet e.
I have the album, but I know
Martin, I think you could be somewhat slightly losing your grip on
feasibility or even desirability here: I mean listen to yourself:
One of the things I've been playing around with is the idea of a VS with a
couple of house DJ's up here, the idea being we play all the records in
chronological
What's wrong with minimal techno?
What kind of damage has it done?
~Dave
-- Original Message -
Subject: (313) The Techno Wheel
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:50:10 +
From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Shake said to me last week that the only people
25/7/03 2:41 PM Odeluga, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Martin, I think you could be somewhat slightly losing your grip on
feasibility or even desirability here: I mean listen to yourself:
One of the things I've been playing around with is the idea of a VS with a
couple of house DJ's up here, the idea
There are a couple of tunes on a mix of his on dhp which apparently are off
this unreleased lp.. The 10 commandmets or something like that which is
basically the bassline from 'kaos' with 'strings' going through it...
Deep deep track...
Any inofo would be great...
From Tom's review of Dan's book...
Moreover, there¹s little discussion of techno¹s bastard offspring, such as
gabber and trance. Yet if this book has a single overriding fault, it is
that too often Sicko fails to make connections or carry his themes through
boldly enough.
He rightly describes
Yeah, the whole wave thing is a tad confusing, maybe we should put mixes
yeah..i think i am with robin on the waves thing...but more mixes/comps
would be cool yes ;P kinda like retakes on the original Techno comps, 10+
years later, which is not a bad idea at all...for those who like history
Robin:
yeah we need someone to make a compilation of properly
licensed older music (that'll never get proper represses)
before the bootleggers beat em to it... :)
ack, where's Neil Rushton when you need him? ;)
Rob
Listen to what actual Detroit DJs play. It isn't only a bunch of Detroit
tracks. For that matter, I think people like Plaslaiko and BMG with his laptop
set are ahead of what most of the older guys do these days. And they are not
any wave, but they rock.
Detroit music is about attitude and
Dave don't read too much into this, I did say it was only five hours of
music not a life mission...
25/7/03 3:39 PM David [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Listen to what actual Detroit DJs play. It isn't only a bunch of Detroit
tracks. For that matter, I think people like Plaslaiko and BMG with his
laptop
There's a new generation coming that will never go into a record shop, own
decks, care about a 909 in mint condition...
sorry but that is such a BS statement. It can be argued then that there is
a new generation coming that will never go into an acoustic guitar shop or
care about a pre-war
Just thought I'd give yall a heads-up. Musician's Friend is having a scratch
and dent sale, with free shipping on anything above $299.
I just bought a pair of silver 1200's for $640, out tha doe!
...and stickers cover up scratches nicely;)
Hope that makes someone's day...sure made my MONTH!
hei,
There's a good few Helsinki record shops listed in Hyperreal's Rotator
locator, most of them have websites so you can check out which ones are
313ish beforehand. Record shopping in Helsinki isn't the cheapest of
activitites unless it's Finish releases you are after.
great mix!
-- Original Message --
From: Langsman, Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 14:03:51 +0100
Shameless self-promotion time...
Brand new mix online at :
http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/users/mbl/Bang4DaBucks.mp3
Tracklisting at :
I don't have any affiliation but though some would be interested
Saturday 7/26:
Ken Ishii
Mike Dearborn
**Billy Nasty had to cancel his North American tour do to a personal
emergency. Sorry for any inconvenience.
Kyle Szmurlo
Vision Nightclub
visionnightclub.com
640 N Dearborn
Chicago, IL
10pm
Billy Nasty had to cancel his North American tour
A lucky escape for Chicago then
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 7:45 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) Ken Ishii in Chicago 7/26
I don't have any affiliation but
there will be a paxahau webcast with Ishii Sunday starting around 5ish
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 3:45 PM
Subject: (313) Ken Ishii in Chicago 7/26
I don't have any affiliation but though some would be interested
I just got that notification too - Paxahau webcasts are archived aren't
they?
MEK
Kookie
Hey guys !
We're hosting another party tomorrow Saturday July 26, and we'll have
the pleasure of seeing and hearing Geoff White for a live performance.
That will be one of his last performances in the US since he'll be
moving to Spain (lucky barcelonians.) in the fall. Here is all the
Yes they are
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Kookie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: (313) Ken Ishii in Chicago 7/26
I just got that notification too - Paxahau webcasts are archived aren't
they?
MEK
[update]
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featuring:
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Maarten Baute wrote:
So what are the music (techno/house/disco/funk/etc...) related blogs that
you recommend?
Thanks,
Maarten
I have a techno messageboard @ http://pub62.ezboard.com/plusorminus ..
feel free to stop by and say a few words. :)
Regards,
Ramon
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