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Date: Thursday, December 21, 2000 12:43 AM
Subject: [313] women in electronic music
Who was it that was doing some sort of academic work on women making
techno? bekka?
Anywho, I came across a pretty nice site. I like the design, and it's
fab:
think its just the
appealI mean it obviusly appeals more to men
than women. So considering
that female djs are already scarce, couple that with
the macho appeal of
technothere you have it! No women djs!
nick:
So you're saying that girls like soft, girly music
instead?
On Thu, 5 Oct 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For alot of women, techno is just bang bang bang repeatedly. With house
its slower and they can actually groove their thang to it. House or
(Trance) do have a softer, happier edge which doesn't feel threatening. Not
me though, bang bang bang
I really just think it has to do with the way most males look down at woman
in general, and how some woman don't take how society wants them to look act
and everything eles into consideration. I currently am the only girl out of
16 guys to be taking a Cisco networking class at my high school.
does trainspotting = trainwrecking?? im from jerzee..never heard
trainspotting.
What about Saskia Miss Djax Sledgers? ..I've never heard her so I can't offer
an opinion...
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Oh yeah, she's the only one i was told that can play hard techno really good,
and now with 3 decks!!!
G l y p h
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So you're saying that girls like soft, girly music
instead? Maybe girls just aren't as creative, or are
concerned with other
a lot of female djs are being recognized and coming into
their own now,
though, and i think this is good. i don't like to
overanalyze stuff.
I totaly agree with the overanalyze part. It is just music, trying to
explain everything changes music (an art-form) into science, talking to
I also think women should use a little of that sexuality God gave us
in the sets.
Well I can say I have my crush's on certain femmes in the DJ trade, but I'm not
gonna say who. ;P It's not necessarily because of any shakin' but it's more of
the whole aura.
Clinging to the topic by a
I received the best compliment about my spinning anyone could ever dream of from
a woman when I played in Finland at Koneisto last month. Women are quicker to
give compliments, in my experiences, while alot of guys feel inferior giving
them.
I'm going to stop posting about this I promise.
Steve
In a message dated 05/10/00 15:49:52 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
From just reading the list, there are a lot women DJs out there. I haven't
heard of all these women but I'm about to log on to the sisterdjs.com list.
Speaking of women techno DJ's, whats become of Gayle San?
See what I mean?
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Ok... I have been trying to avoid making a post,
but it seems i can't hold
myself back. I would like to comment on a few
things mentioned here today
as well as relate some of my own experiences.
I think Holly is making some
see what I mean?
--- Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ok... I have been trying to avoid making a post,
but it seems i can't hold
myself back. I would like to comment on a few
things mentioned here today
as well as relate some of my own experiences.
I think Holly is making some
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think Holly is making some interesting points
but based on my own
personal
experiences I can't get my head around this notion
that women aren't into
abstract ideas. But the fact that I think you work
in computers Holly
means
you must have the kind of
I currently
am the only girl out of
16 guys to be taking a Cisco networking class at my
high school...
Not
only am I a girl but I'm also 17 so I get looked
down upon by other woman a
little bit older.
Yeah, I'm doing Computing at college and there were
only like 4 girls when we
trainspotting
Knowing all about each and every tune... ever.. in the
history of time... trainspotters are the fanatics...
like me really...
trainwrecking
messing your mix up and losing the flow completely
thus getting your crowd peeved so they all go to the
bar instead... also sounds like me...
the fact that there were only 4 girls willing to try should tell you
something about the way things are. i won't bore you too much with things,
but we don't live in a vacuum. societal norms, rules, laws, etc. influences
everything and everyone. 2 girls dropping out of the class when there were
Well of course, it was just something that I mentioned that she can try.
In a message dated 10/6/00 9:35:32 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
One tip my brother has taught me is if once you mix
one record into another and you hear it goes off beat, it means the
record you mixed in is too fast and
On Fri, 6 Oct 2000 06:28:53 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Speaking of women techno DJ's, whats become of Gayle San? I havent
heard anything about her for ages. I heard her play once a couple of
years
ago, and she was probably better than anyone else who played on that
night.
She has put
you might wanna check some of the archived comments on the axis website.
there was a discussion about women in electronic music on there a few months
ago and i even saw some qoutes from miss djax, etc etc.
www.axisrecords.com
-v
One place to look is the archives for 313, IDM, Analogue Heaven (all
at hyperreal.org -- not searchable, but hey, that's why they call it research)
as the topic of women djs is one of those monsters topic that periodically
raises it's head from the muck, bellows for a while, and subsides.
As to why more women aren't doing it, it beats me. Sexism is a factor
everywhere
One thing I've always noticed is the abnormally high number of males
compared to females in techno clubs worldwide. I think its just the
appealI mean it obviusly appeals more to men than women. So
Hi ppl,
As to why more women aren't doing it, it beats me.
Sexism is a factor
everywhere
One thing I've always noticed is the abnormally high
number of males
compared to females in techno clubs worldwide. I
think its just the
appealI mean it obviusly appeals more to men
than
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Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 09:12:37 -0500 (CDT)
One place to look is the archives for 313, IDM, Analogue Heaven (all
at hyperreal.org -- not searchable, but hey, that's why they call
: fab137 [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Kent williams; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject:[313] R: [313] women and electronic music
As to why more women aren't doing it, it beats me. Sexism is a
factor
everywhere
williams; 313
Subject: [313] R: [313] women and electronic music
As to why more women aren't doing it, it beats me. Sexism is a factor
everywhere
One thing I've always noticed is the abnormally high number of males
compared to females in techno clubs worldwide. I think its just
means...or this notion of girly music.
bekka.
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From: Nick Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: fab137 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: [313] R: [313] women and electronic music
So you're saying that girls like soft
don't know anything aboutt DJ Rap???
BIOLOGICAL
bullshit.
From just reading the list, there are a lot women DJs out there. I haven't
heard of all these women but I'm about to log on to the sisterdjs.com list.
The music industry like everything else is male dominated. That's probably
why we/I don't know about these
u really think it's a question of obsessiveness?! what about the
gatekeeping factors and everything else that women have to endure to make it
in a predominantly male scene. i can't believe u just said that! or the
fact that technological has predominantly been seen and treated as part of
the
IOLOGICAL
bullshit.
From just reading the list, there are a lot women DJs out there. I haven't
heard of all these women but I'm about to log on to the sisterdjs.com list.
The music industry like everything else is male dominated. That's probably
why we/I don't know about these
i was very intimated during the very few times i've djed in public, and i'm
still intimated when i have to prove to other djs, usually males, that i
know what i'm doing. at times, i feel as if i can be nothing more that the
dj whore trailing all the djs. i get really self-conscious when i'm the
--- b3kka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: k, u didn't
just say women are less creative now did
you. cuz i don't think
that's the case at all. hence my project, to
dispell such myths and get to
the real issues...of which i believe there are many
practical and
theoretical aspects. but not the
thanks for sharing that Maia.
Let us know when you are spinning again.
I hear you.
Five
Sexism says that women Djs are not real Djs.
I don't think so... They have women's football...
that's a male dominated scene. If they wanna do it
they can, the likes of K.Hand prove this. They just
don't get involved, they're in no more danger in the
dj box than if they were on the dancefloor.
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Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 15:32:22 +0100
One major biological reason seems to be that women simply
aren't as obsessive as men (sure, there are exceptions as with
all things).
Obsessiveness (hmm, my
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i was very intimated
during the very few times i've
djed in public, and i'm
still intimated when i have to prove to other djs,
usually males, that i
know what i'm doing. at times, i feel as if i can be
nothing more that the
dj whore trailing all the djs. i get
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i was very intimated during the very few times i've djed in public,
and i'm
still
you know some nice guys.
Walsh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sexism says that women Djs are not real Djs.
I don't think so... They have women's football...
that's a male dominated scene
]
Sent: 05 October 2000 14:48
To: 313
Subject: Re: [313] R: [313] women and electronic music
u really think it's a question of obsessiveness?! what about the
gatekeeping factors and everything else that women have to endure to make
it
in a predominantly male scene. i can't believe u just
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: [313] R: [313] women and electronic music
i debate. As I sit here and listen to this CD i got asked to review
(St.Germain,Tourist) my FIRST instict was that i wanted it on vinyl. when
i
hear a track I have to stop my
quality, not quantity.
hehe, well you always have something clever to say,
LOL;) It is true that there are loads of ppl on this
list that never ever make a contribution. I don't know
how this is related to girls djing and producing and
getting involved in the scene tho.
l8r,
Nick:)
hmmm... sisterdj's. if you are on 313, chances are.. you won't really dig
sisterdj's. it's a girl power list. which is ok, but get's old after a
week. at least that was my experience for the week i was subscribed. not
too mention majority of the content revolved around jungle. (no disrespect
to
Nothing to do with the famous ele-mental crew? I heard
they're kind of open minded. I (indirectly) know
Titonton... Really nice guy...
Anyway, I prefer the equality stance as opposed to the
one is better than the other way of thinking which
seems to be so popular these days...
l8r,
Nick:)
://www.mp3.com/DanButler
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/1267/index.html
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Sent: 05 October 2000 14:48
To: 313
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u really think it's a question
in day out.
cheers,
Dan
http://www.mp3.com/DanButler
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/1267/index.html
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u
: fab137 [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 October 2000 15:25
To: Kent williams; 313
Subject:[313] R: [313] women and electronic music
As to why more women aren't doing it, it beats me. Sexism is a factor
everywhere
One thing I've always noticed is the abnormally
hm is that right?
yeah I read Artbyte and I liked their issue on Wired Women.
Five
I disagree very strongly - when you say worldwide how extensively have you
travelled? One thing you have to consider is the geographic variations. In
Melbourne techno events pull a very balanced crowd and there are some very
good female DJs. I hear countries like Spain and Portugal are very good
Ok... I have been trying to avoid making a post, but it seems i can't hold
myself back. I would like to comment on a few things mentioned here today
as well as relate some of my own experiences.
Gwendal wrote:
I've always wondered why I couldn't get any of my girlfriends to listen
to
hours of
Ok... I have been trying to avoid making a post, but it seems i can't hold
myself back. I would like to comment on a few things mentioned here today
as well as relate some of my own experiences.
I think Holly is making some interesting points but based on my own personal
experiences I can't get
I think Holly is making some interesting points but based on my own
personal
experiences I can't get my head around this notion that women aren't into
abstract ideas. But the fact that I think you work in computers Holly
means
you must have the kind of mind usually accredited to males -
spiral tribe had some cool female djs (ixi...) that introduced me to
techno in 93.
in the first couple of years, and 93 may already be late, the
techno/rave scene in europe was also carried by the idea of a certain
asexuality and the dissolvement of gender stereotypes... induced maybe
partly by
ok, i'll throw my bonnet into this (well-tread) ring...
i find it interesting yet limiting to look at things from a gender
perspective. interesting because there is usually some grain of insight to
be gained it shapes so much of how society looks at each of us, yet
limiting because i ( this is
For alot of women, techno is just bang bang bang repeatedly. With house
its slower and they can actually groove their thang to it. House or
(Trance) do have a softer, happier edge which doesn't feel threatening. Not
me though, bang bang bang is the way to go! I love techno! Whoohoo!
=)
G
I heard there is a new Red Planet record coming out
called, Women Are From Venus.
Seriously though. I think the most valuable parts of
this thread can be taken from the anecdotes. These are
the women of 313 for crying out loud! Listen to the
authorities.
As a rule I hate the biological
Oh, and to add more fuel to the flame, I seem to
remember reading an interview with Christian Vogel
where he spoke about women loving his music. The idea
was that he recognized a better response to his music
in women vs. men, and with women responding to his
music versus other similar techno. It's
2 words.
Misstress Barbara.
Also...
Shiva from Indianapoils.
These 2 women never play soft...dont like soft..and they rock.
I personally love being a minority in the Techno world.
Leaves more hot yummay techno-snobby men for me to choose from.
And the response from men...after they learn I
In a message dated 10/5/00 9:51:11 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
i was very intimated during the very few times i've djed in public, and
i'm
still intimated when i have to prove to other djs, usually males, that
i
know what i'm doing. at times, i feel as if i can be nothing more that
the
dj whore
I totally agree overall with your comments, Holly. I can certainly relate, it
does get frustrating. One tip my brother has taught me is if once you mix
one record into another and you hear it goes off beat, it means the record
you mixed in is too fast and needs to be slowed down. Try it, hope
2 that you haven't mentioned that come to mind at the moment are:
Ursula Rucker - with King Britt most recently on Guidance, she's done other
things with KB on
Ovum as well.
i think she also did something with josh wink and 4hero and afaik she's
working on her own album at the moment.
2 that you haven't mentioned that come to mind at the moment are:
Ursula Rucker - with King Britt most recently on Guidance, she's done other
things with KB on
Ovum as well.
Mistress Barbara - recently on Christian Smith's Tronic (pretty solid bangin'
techno). I think
there's a little
In a message dated 4/26/00 12:33:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
...oh I've just remebered Miss DJax, head of the all the DJax labels,
former record shop owner
and DJ in her own right. Again I think you're best to check the DJax website
to get more
info...sorry can't remember the address,
.
Anya
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2 that you haven't mentioned that come to mind at the moment are:
Ursula Rucker - with King Britt most recently
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