I wonder if they considered using 'Night Drive (Thru Babylon)'?
Isn't it obvious why Ford used the MOdel 500 tracj, now we can make funny
jokes about it, calling the remix of the track No UFOcus. Of course we all
know that Audi is using our TechnoTourist record TT-001 for their Audi TT
campaign :)
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Van:
As a sidenote, I'm really suprised that May, Atkins, etc. haven't done
more commercial stuff. As in stuff for commercials. Movie soundtracks
too
Compelling point! I am sure they would love to - Kevin Saunderson was saying
just late last year that it's his dream and will work towards that
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Finally,
I saw the commercial spot last night on VH1 and checked the Ford Motor
company site today (www.ford.com) checking for two things: a Quicktime
video
of the commercial (most
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I was watching fox too. The commercial's end disturbed
well said, i completely agree
On Mon, 13 Nov 2000 19:13:12 -0500 JL Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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In a message dated 11
issues of musical credibility.
...
From: Topping, Micah [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 17:58:29 -0500
Music is just a design feature of commercials, meant only to serve the
manipulation of people to the advertiser's
Amen to that Alan!!! :)
LG
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Subject: Re: [313] Ford and Atkins
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 15:05:10 EST
In a message dated 11/13/00 12:15:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I was watching fox too. The commercial's end disturbed me
I agree completely with Alan;) It's good to see a major corporation
recognizing one of the locals. Ford it seems has had an interest in the
Detroit sound for awhile. I think it was last year that Ford hired Derrick
May to compose an intro for their new website (unfortunatly Ford has changed
is gettin' some green.
Fred
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Subject: Re: [313] Ford and Atkins
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 19:13:12 -0500
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have just recently purchased a ZX2 after considering the Focus,
but my wife decided that the focus was ugly. If they had started this
campaign earlier, Ford would have sold one more Focus...
Cheers,
Dennis
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Personally, I think that the music is more Audi TT than Ford Focus...
Don't make this a side thread please.
Fred
So forth and so on
My take-
I personally have just recently purchased a ZX2 after considering the
Focus,
but my wife decided that the focus was ugly. If they had started
The advert just played on Fox, during Malcolm in the Middle
Very cool. Reminds me a bit of Chris Cunningham's
Second Bad Vilbel video.
-d.w.
on 11/12/00 8:51 PM, Dave Walker at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The advert just played on Fox, during Malcolm in the Middle
Very cool. Reminds me a bit of Chris Cunningham's
Second Bad Vilbel video.
Just saw it myself and I had the same reaction. Not very cheesy, and the
edit from the track
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on 11/12/00 8:51 PM, Dave Walker at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The advert just played on Fox, during Malcolm in the Middle
Very cool. Reminds me a bit of Chris
I was watching fox too. The commercial's end disturbed me a bit:
DETROIT TECHNO
FORD FOCUS (or whatever)
Not to go all Roland Barthes on you but the commercial pretty transparently
tries to take the sign 'DETROIT TECHNO' and assign a new meaning to it, namely
a FORD Automobile.
It was another
In a message dated 11/13/00 12:15:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I was watching fox too. The commercial's end disturbed me a bit:
DETROIT TECHNO
FORD FOCUS (or whatever)
Not to go all Roland Barthes on you but the commercial pretty transparently
tries to take the sign 'DETROIT TECHNO' and
On Mon, 13 Nov 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Damn, Kent, why can't you just be glad that Ford is using Juan's music in a
MAJOR commercial, and hopefully paying him accordingly ???
I'm glad he's getting paid. I can be glad for him and still be a bit disturbed
by the commercial can't I? My
Music is just a design feature of commercials, meant only to serve the
manipulation of people to the advertiser's will. In that
context, music
is in service of capitalist mind control. It's worth more
than that to
me on it's own terms.
actually it sounds to me like your beef is more with
and so any movement for change will ultimately fail.
When innovators can't see, or can't move, outside the structure they set
themselves up for failure.
There are plenty of innovators within the structures subverting them -
Wu-Tang, even UR to an extent, etc. What is holding back techno in the
Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 3:38 AM
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When I saw that movie I thought some kicking detroit
stuff would be IDEAL. Strings of life, maybe, but
imagine something like
If you wish it, it will happen! Yes, there are plans for a new site
dedicated to Alan Oldham's artwork which will include animations and a new
Johnny Gambit cartoon series...so hold on to your hats!
Peace,
G l y p h.
In a message dated 11/11/00 9:32:21 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I would
--- John Shipman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
to me it's
just another example of a big corporation jumping on
something way after the
fact,
Always going to happen.
stomping on something beautiful like a giant
baby hewy and milking it
for financial gain.
Well I'm hoping that the deal in
I believe it is some 17-18 later.finally recognition in your own city.
Sigh!
From: tom_magicfeet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 22:47:49 -
This all got me
. It is embarassingly overdue and it
won't change him musically one blinkin' bit.
From: tom_magicfeet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This all got me thinking
Whyever would they choose a black musical innovator when there always a
white imitator like Moby??
This makes me think that Pan sonic were supposed to provide the music
for Nissan Almera ad campaign, but the dealers thought it was too
weird, so they ended up using Moby... Where is Captain Ahab
Wow! this is cool.
So when will this commercial air?
gots to get my VCR ready for this, the whole concept reminds me of
Transformers, remember Transformers? I used to be so into those as a
kid, also Go-Bots, Voltron, Robotech (Macross), and all that Japanese
mecca shtuff.
stephen.
know and love his music.
maybe i'm just different, but to be known and respected internationally and
to be able to live in peace at home would be ideal to me.
my 0.02
Mike
From: laura gavoor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] Ford and Atkins
Date: Fri
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Also from Ford look for the upcoming Made In Detroit Ford Focus which will
be a limited edition Focus decked out with the famous Stanzler/Arnett logo
on the sides. no I'm not kidding this time.
--
sean deason
matrix records
p.o. box 343
dearborn, mi 48121
what does everyone think about this?
can share it.
criticism n envy will make you depressed.
bond.jamesbond.
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I hate cars, but I love Juan Atkins. Such a dilemma!
Glad he's making some bucks. He deserves it.
--dick richards
Nathan John de Yonker wrote:
I approve
On Wed, 8 Nov 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
what does everyone think about this?
On Wed, 8 Nov 2000, Nathan John de Yonker wrote:
I approve
Me too.
I remember the first time I heard techno appropriated by traditional
institutions in Detroit--the NBC affiliate (channel 4 wdiv) would use some
of May's work for their breaking news soundtrack. And for their news
ditto
--
sean deason
From: Nathan John de Yonker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 20:22:03 -0500 (EST)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I approve
On Wed, 8 Nov 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
what does everyone think about
on 11/8/00 8:52 PM, Lester Kenyatta Spence at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As a sidenote, I'm really suprised that May, Atkins, etc. haven't done
more commercial stuff. As in stuff for commercials. Movie soundtracks
too
Same old, same old. It took Moby licensing all the tracks on Play for
When I saw that movie I thought some kicking detroit
stuff would be IDEAL. Strings of life, maybe, but
imagine something like T1000, Denham, Young, etc etc
etc.
Ass-kickin stuff.
Dave
--- Lester Kenyatta Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Take THE MATRIX for instance. Can you imagine how
dope it
10 years to late
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on 11/8/00 8:52 PM, Lester Kenyatta Spence at
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As a sidenote, I'm really suprised that May,
Atkins, etc. haven't done
more commercial stuff. As in stuff for
commercials. Movie soundtracks
too
Maybe Ford can include a copy of the track with each car purchase?
Fred
From: sean deason [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 20:55:16 -0500
ditto
--
sean deason
lol
however, I was thinking more like a CD single...but vinyl would be
hilarious.
Fred
From: Nathan John de Yonker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 23:47:35 -0500 (EST)
I think
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I think the expression on my dad's or insert
another conservative
car-buyer face if the Ford dealership handed him
her a piece of vinyl
with a shiny new auto.
uhh.. what
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To: Dan Sicko; keleigh casper
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Also from Ford look for the upcoming Made In
Detroit Ford Focus which will
be a limited edition Focus
Tresor/Simple Music/LL/Funque Droppings/Deep Night Essentials/Set.Go
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Ford, quite possibly some of the worst cars on the
road. ford
what does everyone think about this?
i think it is amusing and sad.
highlights the contradictions in culture i see when i look at the
usa. (plank own eye yeah yeah)
ford- the corporation that systemised worker exploitation. a founder who
was a facist. an organisation that deskilled it's
the cataract.
They do not see what they look at.
Dum Dee Dum Dee Dum Dee Dum... - Stereolab
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You can dis the car all you
I can't believe that there is actually a troll on this list! :-))
Personally I think its a good thing that Ford decided to use
such a track
for one of their ads. Like the Pirelli ad with a track by
Aphex. It kinda
helps to spread the *word* no?
i too think this is a wonderful thing.
does
found it
eventually anyway without the help of ford motor company. but what do i
know?
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Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 9:04 AM
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I can't believe
the contradictions are quite interesting, esp. given the misquote
usually attributed to Juan saying he was more interested in Ford's
robots than his cars.
But rather than an uncomfortable connection with Ford's past,
wouldn't this be a great place from which to move forward? Or are
the
Actually , I do recall reading in the News that Derrick May
'scored' sound track stuff for the Ford website and they
actually have a bio as well.
Would this be related to Genral Motors booking Dj Bone to
'dj' their Detroit auto show 2000 In which the new Hummer
concept was brought out
i'm having a hard time swallowing this i guess, just can't
really see it as
a good thing. don't get me wrong i think it's wonderful for
atkins himself,
he deserves everything he gets and from what i've heard it's
not a hack job
on the tune but, at the same time it's a horrible shame that
. It kinda
helps to spread the *word* no?
fab
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Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 2:38 PM
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It seems clear to me this person is trying to stir things
Maybe Ford can include a copy of the track with each car purchase?
Fred
That is actually a very good idea...some semi-unrecognized D.J. needs to get
on that ...yesterday!!
A mix with no ufo's included obviously. A lot of classic Detroit stuff
...the Rob Hood track ...
this is an idea that can
Subject: RE: [313] Ford and Atkins
i'm having a hard time swallowing this i guess, just can't
really see it as
a good thing. don't get me wrong i think it's wonderful for
atkins himself,
he deserves everything he gets and from what i've heard it's
not a hack job
on the tune
Don't forget that the Ford web site was using Derrick May last year
in their Flash.
Anyhow I'd rather have No UFO's doing its magic to promote an
economy car like the Focus than say some monster Cayonero-type SUV.
And the three door Focus does kinda look like a spaceship...
At any rate it is
..atleast it probably wont be as europoppy or trancey as some of those
oldsmobile alero commercials and some other poorly done attempts at using
dance music to sell a car..
..i also think that its cool that they are using an older track by Atkins..
even though they are advertising a new
: Thursday, November 09, 2000 9:04 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject:RE: [313] Ford and Atkins
I can't believe that there is actually a troll on this list! :-))
Personally I think its a good thing that Ford decided to use
such a track
for one of their ads. Like the Pirelli
, just constantly morphs
to fight against evil
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Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 1:10 PM
To: John Shipman
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Subject: RE: [313] Ford and Atkins
hear where youre
goodness. just as long as radio doesn't overplay everything and completely
ruin it like it has in the past...
jeff
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me in the first place. i've always thought of the people involved in the
music to be intelligent enough to circumvent this whole entire system.
who
needs them? with the technology and communication that is at eveyones
disposal, the big money has no power or at least not as much power as it
09, 2000 2:36 PM
To: John Shipman
Cc: 'Topping, Micah'; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: [313] Ford and Atkins
me in the first place. i've always thought of the people involved in the
music to be intelligent enough to circumvent this whole entire system.
who
needs them
times better, but popular appeal is more important to
them than true quality.
From: laura gavoor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] Ford and Atkins
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 15:55:50 GMT
Whyever would they choose a black musical innovator when there always a
white imitator
kinda symbolic, i think. symbolizes that techno is so far ahead of its
time...
take care,
Mike
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Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 13:06:52 EST
..atleast it probably
It shouldn't, but unfortunately it does. That is just the bleak reality of
the situation.
hey, now, race shouldn't play a part in this...
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CC: '313@hyperreal.org' 313@hyperreal.org
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Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 19:20:22 -0800
i don't think it is related in any way other then the fact the music is
finally getting respect in the city where it was created. and i think
what
makes both
To my knowledge, most Planet E 12s are
not distributed outside the US, but some European
labels are stable enough to do this.
They are quite well distributed through Siren in Australia who have tried to
raise its profile and done very well - I wish other labels were this well
distributed. The
Wow.
I was *just* going to post about the new print ad I saw for Focus
with the headline Detroit Techno. I just thought some clever
copywriter at JWT snuck one past his or her superiors, but this is
bigger than I thought!
-d
i'm quite sure this is what atkins had in mind when he originally recorded
the tune :Pman, isn't this a sign of the apocalypse? we hear at for
are really down with that new techno sound..how cutting edge, where can
i get a focus?
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oooppps, that's we hear at FORD
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Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 2:54 PM
To: 'keleigh casper'; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: [313] Ford and Atkins
i'm quite sure this is what atkins had in mind when he
it to something like Kia
or whatnot.
d
np:Massive Attack-Karma Coma
From: John Shipman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'keleigh casper' [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: [313] Ford and Atkins
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 14:54:14 -0500
i'm quite sure this is what atkins had in mind when he originally
To: 'keleigh casper'; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject:RE: [313] Ford and Atkins
i'm quite sure this is what atkins had in mind
when he originally
recorded
the tune :Pman, isn't this a sign of the
apocalypse? we hear at
for
are really down with that new techno
sound..how
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Wow.
I was *just* going to post about the new print ad I
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