Re: [AFMUG] ePMP VoIP QoS

2015-06-08 Thread David Milholen
That is the stance we took with the voip phones in general On 6/7/2015 4:20 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: After dealing with all of the others, it's Polycom or nothing for me. The others just aren't worth my time. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [AFMUG] storms

2015-06-08 Thread George Skorup
Nope, just regular 360's. SS top and bottom. Timing via SyncPipes. No other radios at either site had any issues (both Canopy and UBNT). I have Cyclones on a number of other sites and they're all fine. A few sites with 5750-360's always get random reboots during thunderstorms. The logs say powe

Re: [AFMUG] WISPMon "Pre-provision customer with this data"

2015-06-08 Thread Cameron Crum
Well give me shout if you want! Cameron On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > Does anyone know what enables the "Pre-provision customer with this data" > in WISPMon to light up? I'm drawing a blank now and I don't consider it > critical enough to call Cameron's cell. ;-) > > >

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz

2015-06-08 Thread Shayne Lebrun
I seem to recall that with the M series, at least, a 30 mhz channel works 'better' than a 40 because the 40 is really two 20 mhz channels bonded together, where a 30 mhz channel is a 30 mhz channel. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] storms

2015-06-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
BTW, I have used an omni with 7 degree electrical downtilt at a grain leg in a small town where I mainly wanted to cover a 1-2 mile radius and had a lot of interference coming from T6 sites in all directions. https://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=342385&eventPage=1 -Ori

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2015-06-08 Thread Matt Mangriotis
Couple of things… We are definitely looking into putting the 3.65 PMP 450 SM into a high gain panel in order to provide a solution (that’s not an offset reflector). We feel like this could represent the right balance between gain and directionality to increase the chances of working better in

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2015-06-08 Thread Paul McCall
Yes, on the 3.65 integrated panel From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Mangriotis Sent: Monday, June 08, 2015 10:19 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i Couple of things… We are definitely looking into putting the 3.65 PMP 450 SM into a high gain panel in or

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2015-06-08 Thread Sean Heskett
YES! I have been asking for this for a looogg time!!! On Monday, June 8, 2015, Matt Mangriotis < matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com> wrote: > Couple of things… > > > > We are definitely looking into putting the 3.65 PMP 450 SM into a high > gain panel in order to provide a sol

Re: [AFMUG] Project Management Tools

2015-06-08 Thread Steve
The question is - what is a good open source system? A lot of these online systems are great and cheap but all it takes is for one of the team members to have a compromised computer and valuable information could be obtained such as passwords or other private information. For that fact alone

Re: [AFMUG] Project Management Tools

2015-06-08 Thread Steve
Free trial of what? - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 11:06:02 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Project Management Tools I am going to try a free trial of 5pm today. It looks like it can do what I need. -Original Message- From: Ste

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2015-06-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
I would probably buy some, not specifically for NLOS though. We would use them where we use a CLIP now in 5 GHz. So we wouldn’t buy a ton of them, maybe 20% of 3.65 SMs. I guess it would depend on the price, if it cost $200 more than a regular SM, then we would probably tell most people sorry

Re: [AFMUG] Project Management Tools

2015-06-08 Thread Chuck McCown
I am going to try a free trial of 5pm today. It looks like it can do what I need. -Original Message- From: Steve Sent: Monday, June 08, 2015 9:04 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Project Management Tools The question is - what is a good open source system? A lot of these on

Re: [AFMUG] Project Management Tools

2015-06-08 Thread Steve
Heh.. thanks. Looks interesting but not open source or even something you can install inside your own network for users to use. We want something in house and we'd even pay obviously. Just rather not have corporate data out in other hands. You are at their mercy and security practices. --

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz

2015-06-08 Thread Mathew Howard
I've never seeing much difference in performance on the ubnt M series between 30mhz and 40mhz channels, so yes, I would say that is true... but I'm not sure how much applies to ePMP - they do have a much a faster processor and on a software level they are very different. So far, I have been runnin

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2015-06-08 Thread Brian Sullivan
+1 what Ken said. On 6/8/2015 10:06 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I would probably buy some, not specifically for NLOS though. We would use them where we use a CLIP now in 5 GHz. So we wouldn’t buy a ton of them, maybe 20% of 3.65 SMs. I guess it would depend on the price, if it cost $200 more than

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2015-06-08 Thread Patrick Leary
Ken, I'm certain there are no more type approvals for any 3.65 GHz gear under the old Part 90 rules. Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 [cid:image001.png@01D0A1DC.6E45F560] From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 6:56 PM T

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2015-06-08 Thread Mathew Howard
I agree, it would depend on the price... if the price is similar, I would definitely prefer a panel to using reflectors. I hadn't thought about that, but if the existing SM is approved to be used with a panel, there really shouldn't be any reason it couldn't be sold as an integrated package... On

Re: [AFMUG] Project Management Tools

2015-06-08 Thread Chuck McCown
It is called 5pm http://www.5pmweb.com -Original Message- From: Steve Sent: Monday, June 08, 2015 9:06 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Project Management Tools Free trial of what? - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 1

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2015-06-08 Thread Patrick Leary
I believe sites may still be registered by those with existing 3.65 licenses, but they won't receive incumbent protection. But, that does not mean new products may be brought to market approved under the old rules. Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 [cid:image001.png@01D0A1DC.CB96A930]

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz

2015-06-08 Thread Josh Reynolds
I don't know how epmp does it. For UBNT, a 30mhz channel is just a "fat" 20mhz channel in the atheros chip. Single operation. For  a 40mhz channel, it's really two 20s, meaning radio operations are ran twice. Loss in efficiency, also marred by the lack of gigabit port. On Jun 8, 2015 7:13 AM, Mathe

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2015-06-08 Thread Patrick Leary
Equipment formerly approved under the old rules may continue to be manufactured, sold and installed, yes. But, NEW gear cannot be brought to market under the former rules. Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 [cid:image001.png@01D0A1DD.030AFB00] From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@

Re: [AFMUG] storms

2015-06-08 Thread Mathew Howard
So far no lightning damage to any of our towers this year... of course I probably just jinxed myself by saying that ;P On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 8:44 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > BTW, I have used an omni with 7 degree electrical downtilt at a grain leg > in a small town where I mainly wanted to cover a

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2015-06-08 Thread Patrick Leary
I would agree with Matt that changing/adding antenna choices for gear already authorized does not require a new FCC authorization. Long ago the FCC ruled that sort of thing does not require new authorization (given certain rules are followed). Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 [cid:image001.png@01D

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz

2015-06-08 Thread Josh Luthman
Ubnt and epmp have gig ports. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 8, 2015 11:20 AM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > I don't know how epmp does it. > > For UBNT, a 30mhz channel is just a "fat" 20mhz channel in the atheros > chip. Single

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2015-06-08 Thread Mathew Howard
Are you sure about that? Here's what Steve Coran posted on the WISPA list after speaking to the FCC about the new rules: > Fifth, equipment for the 3650-3700 MHz band can still be certified through > the FCC's equipment certification process. On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 10:21 AM, Patrick Leary wrote

[AFMUG] Coverage maps

2015-06-08 Thread Brett A Mansfield
What does everyone use to create your coverage maps? I'd like to get some really nice ones. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield

Re: [AFMUG] Coverage maps

2015-06-08 Thread Chuck McCown
RM is pretty good if you spend the time to learn it well. -Original Message- From: Brett A Mansfield Sent: Monday, June 08, 2015 9:27 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Coverage maps What does everyone use to create your coverage maps? I'd like to get some really nice ones. Thank

Re: [AFMUG] Coverage maps

2015-06-08 Thread Mike Hammett
Radio Mobile and GIS tools. Otherwise, Brian Webster. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Brett A Mansfield" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 1

Re: [AFMUG] LA Times - LAX approves contract to upgrade airport Wi-Fi

2015-06-08 Thread Paul Stewart
Yeah O’Hare and Midway are both not favorites there… From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2015 11:12 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LA Times - LAX approves contract to upgrade airport Wi-Fi O'Hare is the busiest if you count take

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP GUI Updates

2015-06-08 Thread Nate Burke
A whole fat lotta nothin. On 6/5/2015 7:55 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: What happens if you noScript the page? :D Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com On 06/05/2015 04:49 PM, Jon Auer wrote: Yeah... And pretty much painful if it's a BH link that's freaking out and you need to get into

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz

2015-06-08 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah, I have no idea how ePMP does it either, but you just set the center frequency instead of using an extension channel like UBNT, so it could very well be a single fat channel... also, ePMP doesn't support 30mhz channels. On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 10:24 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Ubnt and epmp h

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2015-06-08 Thread Patrick Leary
Admittedly, I am not certain, though it would seem silly and illogical. Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 [cid:image002.png@01D0A1DE.A1089410] From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Monday, June 08, 2015 11:26 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz

2015-06-08 Thread Jeremy
I think he is talking about using 40MHz channels on the older M series, that didn't have gig ports. It was my understanding that the processor would get taxed as well on a 40MHz channel, making 30MHz actually work better. On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Ubnt and epmp have

Re: [AFMUG] storms

2015-06-08 Thread Paul Stewart
That’s so true… had a tower (at previous job) get hit a couple of years ago in middle of January – temperatures were around -20C and snow storm … unfortunately the building attached at the tower caught fire and burnt to the ground … not fun times … From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz

2015-06-08 Thread Josh Luthman
That doesn't make much sense since the wlan and eth ports are bridged. The cpu isn't involved unless you're routing/NATing the two interfaces. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Jeremy wrote: > I thin

Re: [AFMUG] Coverage maps

2015-06-08 Thread Josh Luthman
towercoverage.com It's a nice clean web interface version of RadioMobile. Has a bunch of other features. At a few bucks a month it's not even worth the time downloading RadioMobile any more. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon,

Re: [AFMUG] Project Management Tools

2015-06-08 Thread Paul Stewart
Do how does an in-house system protect you any further? I mean, if a computer there gets compromised it really doesn't matter if you're behind a firewall or not half the time seen it lots of times ... -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Sent

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2015-06-08 Thread Mathew Howard
Agreed, I can't imagine any manufacturer would actually bother with part 90 certification at this point, so it's probably pretty much irrelevant whether the FCC would actually do it or not. On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Patrick Leary wrote: > Admittedly, I am not certain, though it would see

Re: [AFMUG] Coverage maps

2015-06-08 Thread Patrick Leary
Radio Mobile is good for simple, basic maps. For comprehensive mapping, you need the hardcore professional tools like Hexagon, or Lepton, or Mentum, or... Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 [cid:image003.png@01D0A1DF.3E2CD990] From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Beha

Re: [AFMUG] Coverage maps

2015-06-08 Thread Brett A Mansfield
I've seen this term of GIS a lot lately. You would think they could find something other than Geographical Information System. But maybe they intended the double entendre? Thank you, Brett A Mansfield > On Jun 8, 2015, at 9:29 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > Radio Mobile and GIS tools. Otherwise

Re: [AFMUG] Coverage maps

2015-06-08 Thread Mike Hammett
TC does have some nice things, but not enough for me to leave basic Radio Mobile. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: af@afmug.com Sent

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz

2015-06-08 Thread Jeremy
I don't know. I have had one M5 link that definitely performed better on 40MHz over 30MHz, but that link has been upgraded to licensed now. I just regurgitate the BS that they feed me on the forums. On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > That doesn't make much sense since the wl

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz

2015-06-08 Thread Josh Luthman
That's probably because of RF problems. Radio or environment. Not the ETH port. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 8, 2015 11:49 AM, "Jeremy" wrote: > I don't know. I have had one M5 link that definitely performed better on >

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2015-06-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
I would think it would depend on (a) whether people would buy it and (b) how confident the manufacturer is that same equipment can meet the new rules and be re-certified with only a FW upgrade. From: Mathew Howard Sent: Monday, June 08, 2015 10:35 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz

2015-06-08 Thread Josh Reynolds
This. Thought it was pretty obvious but I guess I assumed too much out of some on this list ;) On Jun 8, 2015 7:33 AM, Jeremy wrote:I think he is talking about using 40MHz channels on the older M series, that didn't have gig ports.  It was my understanding that the processor would get taxed as wel

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz

2015-06-08 Thread Josh Reynolds
*sigh* on like a tiny handful of airmax  products, of which none except XW Titanium has DFS or lower band, and that product has such a broken ethernet chip set that even UBNT basically tells you to "lock it to 100FD or use 10/100 auto". On Jun 8, 2015 7:24 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:Ubnt and epmp have

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz

2015-06-08 Thread Rory Conaway
The limitation on the older xm radios was pps. When you added a lot of small packets and airmax, you could drop down to as low as 40Mbps. In the real world in ptmp mode. We planned for 50mhz per AP with eveything g taken into account. Sent from fromm phone where I type with a single digit so

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz

2015-06-08 Thread Josh Reynolds
Takes 2x as long due to latency, you are running rf operations on two channels instead of one.. SoftIRQ is also involved. On Jun 8, 2015 7:34 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:That doesn't make much sense since the wlan and eth ports are bridged.  The cpu isn't involved unless you're routing/NATing the two i

Re: [AFMUG] Coverage maps

2015-06-08 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
i've considered towercoverage and dabbled with it but at nearly 100 sites, what is the monthly cost? when i played with it you had to pay by sector, pretty much. - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, June 08, 2015 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz

2015-06-08 Thread Josh Reynolds
That is a bottleneck in the system, but not relevant as far as this discussion goes. That has nothing to do with the 30/40MHz channel efficiency per say. On Jun 8, 2015 8:03 AM, Rory Conaway wrote: The limitation on the older xm radios was pps.  When you added a lot of small packets and a

Re: [AFMUG] Coverage maps

2015-06-08 Thread Josh Luthman
25 bucks 25 sites, or 50/50, etc http://towercoverage.com/#pagePricing Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 12:07 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: > > i've considered towercoverage and dabbled with it but at nearly 100

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz

2015-06-08 Thread Mathew Howard
I kind of does, the way I understood it, that bottleneck limited you from really being able to do anything beyond what a 30mhz channel could support. Now that I think about it, I have seen 40mhz perform better than 30mhz... but yes, that was because of RF problems, and neither one was doing anythi

Re: [AFMUG] Coverage maps

2015-06-08 Thread Dennis Burgess
A few big ones: · Website integration : You add sites on TowerCoverage, once its generated your map on our site is updated, no need to go and update your website map. · Website End User Submission: Customer comes to your site, fills out a form, it geolocates the address the

Re: [AFMUG] Coverage maps

2015-06-08 Thread Josh Luthman
>Fast This. So much this. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Dennis Burgess wrote: > A few big ones: > > > > · *Website integration* : You add sites on TowerCoverage, once > its generated y

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz

2015-06-08 Thread Rory Conaway
My point is that the theoretical sets pot is 20 to 30mhz depending on the application. Sent from fromm phone where I type with a single digit so please excuse shortcuts or typos. Rory Conaway Triad Wireless Original message From: Mathew Howard Date: 06/08/2015 12:13 PM (G

[AFMUG] best thing on FB in a while

2015-06-08 Thread Cameron Crum
For the runners...or hicks. https://www.facebook.com/april.w.cantrell/videos/10206686083061600/

Re: [AFMUG] Coverage maps

2015-06-08 Thread Mike Hammett
*nods* Those are nice things and if I were using another product for my billing\management, I'd consider it more. WISPMon does some of that for me. Also, I'd be generating my maps for my GIS tools for other work anyway. For those that don't know, TC is the next evolution of Radio Mobile. It's

Re: [AFMUG] best thing on FB in a while

2015-06-08 Thread Ty Featherling
I wish I thought of that. That is funny right there! -Ty On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Cameron Crum wrote: > For the runners...or hicks. > > https://www.facebook.com/april.w.cantrell/videos/10206686083061600/ >

Re: [AFMUG] Coverage maps

2015-06-08 Thread Dennis Burgess
Yes, and RM is not for commercial use as well; make sure you send Roger some funds if you use it, he is a great guy and has made a great product. We do offer KMLs and polygon KML as well as GeoJSON and several other formats I believe, but it’s a manual process, the next version will have that in

Re: [AFMUG] Coverage maps

2015-06-08 Thread Mike Hammett
I'm not going to argue against sending Roger funds because I have done to. I just suggested to him that he setup the PayPal recurring payments for commercial users to just subscribe to regular payments. However, regarding not for commercial use... Radio Mobile software is a copyright of Roger

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz

2015-06-08 Thread Josh Reynolds
I can assure you that on radios connected in a ptp config or small ptmp, that you will see more throughput on the 30mhz channel given a noise floor of -97 and signals in the mid -50s, even with nothing connected on the other side of the radios. Its an efficiency issue. On Jun 8, 2015 8:13 AM, Mathe

Re: [AFMUG] Coverage maps

2015-06-08 Thread Dennis Burgess
Understand, as we always say, to each his own right! We do offer KMLS and such, we also do all of the Form 477 stuff as well. It may be a great fit for most, but in some cases its not. ;) We are always looking for new feature etc ☺ Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc. den...@linkt

Re: [AFMUG] best thing on FB in a while

2015-06-08 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
which reality show was this filmed for? lol - Original Message - From: Ty Featherling To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, June 08, 2015 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] best thing on FB in a while I wish I thought of that. That is funny right there! -Ty On Mon, Jun 8, 201

Re: [AFMUG] C3VoIP - 200

2015-06-08 Thread Sean Heskett
glad to hear TR-069 is supported. Any idea on when a 5Ghz version will be available? Comcast has pretty much screwed up 2.4Ghz :-/ On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 9:11 AM, Rajesh Vijayakumar < rajesh.vijayaku...@gmail.com> wrote: > Sean, > TR-069 is supported. > > Rajesh Vijayakumar > Cambium Networks

Re: [AFMUG] Coverage maps

2015-06-08 Thread Josh Luthman
Do the KML export when we do a coverage map like the old win32 program did. Then give us a download link =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 1:11 PM, Dennis Burgess wrote: > Understand, as we always say, to

Re: [AFMUG] best thing on FB in a while

2015-06-08 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
was that Jay dancing? On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 12:14 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: > > which reality show was this filmed for? lol > > > - Original Message - > *From:* Ty Featherling > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Sent:* Monday, June 08, 2015 11:26 AM > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] best thing on FB in a

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP VoIP QoS

2015-06-08 Thread Daniel White
I started feeling like an old man lately, now I know why :-D Daniel White (303) 746-3590 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2015 2:19 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP VoIP QoS This industry turns you into an old man. :) If

Re: [AFMUG] LA Times - LAX approves contract to upgrade airport Wi-Fi

2015-06-08 Thread Daniel White
A380 is a nice plane to fly on. But I’ll take the 787 anytime. Man I fly too much. Daniel White (303) 746-3590 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Caleb Knauer Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2015 3:35 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LA Times - LAX approves contract to upg

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP VoIP QoS

2015-06-08 Thread Mathew Howard
Why didn't someone tell me this a few years ago? now it's too late :P On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Daniel White wrote: > I started feeling like an old man lately, now I know why :-D > > > > Daniel White > > (303) 746-3590 > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George

Re: [AFMUG] Coverage maps

2015-06-08 Thread Daniel White
I used to do this with EDX… great tool. Steep learning curve. Daniel White (303) 746-3590 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 9:37 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Coverage maps Radio Mobile is good for simple, basic maps.

Re: [AFMUG] Coverage maps

2015-06-08 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
towecoverage.com website isnt displaying correctly in chrome, probably should fix that On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 12:19 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Do the KML export when we do a coverage map like the old win32 program > did. Then give us a download link =) > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 >

Re: [AFMUG] C3VoIP - 200

2015-06-08 Thread Josh Reynolds
What system do you have in place that can provision via this method? On Jun 8, 2015 9:15 AM, Sean Heskett wrote:glad to hear TR-069 is supported.Any idea on when a 5Ghz version will be available?  Comcast has pretty much screwed up 2.4Ghz :-/On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 9:11 AM, Rajesh Vijayakumar

Re: [AFMUG] best thing on FB in a while

2015-06-08 Thread Jay Weekley
Just the Cyber Broadband staff and I doing a little tailgating on a pleasant weekend. Ty Featherling wrote: I wish I thought of that. That is funny right there! -Ty On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Cameron Crum > wrote: For the runners...or hicks. https://

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz

2015-06-08 Thread Rory Conaway
Excopt that as was mentioned before, the s/n ratio goes down and if you aren't hitting the limits of the physical layer in 20MHz, why do it? Sent from fromm phone where I type with a single digit so please excuse shortcuts or typos. Rory Conaway Triad Wireless Original message

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz

2015-06-08 Thread Josh Reynolds
I think we are having two different conversations, and I have no idea what you are talking about right now. What we were discussing has to do with channel sizes, epmp, and ubiquiti. In particular, why UBNT 40mhz isn't any better than 30mhz in terms of efficiency. This part of the discussion has not

Re: [AFMUG] Coverage maps

2015-06-08 Thread Dennis Burgess
We use chome all fo the time on it, don’t know what specifically you are seeing, send a screenshot to supp...@towercoverage.com and we will take a look. Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc. den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-027

Re: [AFMUG] LA Times - LAX approves contract to upgrade airport Wi-Fi

2015-06-08 Thread Jon Paul Kelley
I really like my Beech Sundowner. Flexible arrival and departure times. I don’t have to be strip searched and the solitude is quite nice. Jon Paul Kelley CKS Wireless From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Daniel White Sent: Monday, June 08, 2015 12:39 PM To: af@afmug.com Sub

Re: [AFMUG] Coverage maps

2015-06-08 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
http://towercoverage.com/#pagePricing try expanding planned features On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Dennis Burgess wrote: > We use chome all fo the time on it, don’t know what specifically you are > seeing, send a screenshot to supp...@towercoverage.com and we will take a > look. > > > > Denn

Re: [AFMUG] LA Times - LAX approves contract toupgrade airport Wi-Fi

2015-06-08 Thread Chuck McCown
I used to think I wanted a DC-3 for a motorhome, but then I learned I would have to become an expert mechanic if I hoped to keep it flying without paying a fortune. I liked the MU-2 but they have an odd history. Hard to beat a T-210, I have many hundreds of hours in them. I thought I wante

[AFMUG] fusion splicer recommendations.. last check..

2015-06-08 Thread Peter Kranz
About to pick up the DVP-750 unit for $2943.. http://www.njdvp.com/english/pro/pro.asp?ID=4 So if anyone has picked up a fusion splicer in the last 3 months or so and has another recommendation, let me know! Peter Kranz www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-161

Re: [AFMUG] LA Times - LAX approves contract toupgrade airport Wi-Fi

2015-06-08 Thread Jon Paul Kelley
I love the Pilatus. The mechanic on my airfield is an old high school friend. They had one in the hangar for phase inspections. It was sweet. He also has a normally aspirated 210 that he is trying to sell. Might be a nice upgrade from my Slowdowner. Jon Paul Kelley CKS Wireless From: A

Re: [AFMUG] C3VoIP - 200

2015-06-08 Thread Sean Heskett
we are evaluating a couple different platforms. I'm not anchorage of that project so i'll have to check with the guy who is. TR-069 is like SNMP tho, just because a device supports it doesn't mean that it has all the bells and whistles that you want or need. On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 11:48 AM, Josh

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz

2015-06-08 Thread Rory Conaway
The pps and cpu load absolutely is another variable you need to take into acount, especially with 400 and 526mhz atheros processors that are also running polling. Ignore it as part of your overall strategy and you could be wasting spectrum. If your ap never exceeds 80mbps, why do you want 30

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz

2015-06-08 Thread Rory Conaway
To prove my point further, if you do throughput testing with Ubiquity in ptmp mode, you will find with xm radios, cpu load affects modulation levels. I haven't tested xw radios yet but I believe the threshold is just higher and probably justifies 30mhz but it's going to be close. Sent from f

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

2015-06-08 Thread George Skorup
Yes. And I was first. nananana :) On 6/8/2015 9:49 AM, Sean Heskett wrote: YES! I have been asking for this for a looogg time!!! On Monday, June 8, 2015, Matt Mangriotis > wrote: Couple of things… We are definitely lookin

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz

2015-06-08 Thread Josh Luthman
If that was the case why are the loads of every radio 0.01 or less? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: > To prove my point further, if you do throughput testing with Ubiquity in > p

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz

2015-06-08 Thread Rory Conaway
I would have to se your data, mine does not support that. Sent from fromm phone where I type with a single digit so please excuse shortcuts or typos. Rory Conaway Triad Wireless Original message From: Josh Luthman Date: 06/08/2015 3:26 PM (GMT-05:00) To: af@afmug.com Subje

[AFMUG] OT Halt and Catch Fire

2015-06-08 Thread Chuck McCown
Some of the technical detail errors make it hard to enjoy.

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz

2015-06-08 Thread Josh Luthman
SSH into every single AP and it says 0.00 or 0.01. I used to graph it way back (maybe 5.3 days?) and I never saw it deviate. This is definitely all XM gear. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Rory Conaw

Re: [AFMUG] OT Halt and Catch Fire

2015-06-08 Thread Jaime Solorza
I watch 1st season and lost interest Jaime Solorza On Jun 8, 2015 1:30 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > Some of the technical detail errors make it hard to enjoy. >

Re: [AFMUG] best thing on FB in a while

2015-06-08 Thread David
WTH! On 06/08/2015 11:22 AM, Cameron Crum wrote: For the runners...or hicks. https://www.facebook.com/april.w.cantrell/videos/10206686083061600/

Re: [AFMUG] OT Halt and Catch Fire

2015-06-08 Thread David
Ok, gimme the low down on what this show is about.. I have some previews but thats al. looks interesting On 06/08/2015 02:30 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Some of the technical detail errors make it hard to enjoy.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Halt and Catch Fire

2015-06-08 Thread Chuck McCown
It loosely follows a similar story line to some computer startups in Texas in the 1980s. Perhaps Compaq or Pheonix. This season they are following an on-line gaming story line but they are muffing some of the telco modem line detail. Marginally entertaining if you have ever been part of a h

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz

2015-06-08 Thread Josh Luthman
PS in the run queue? That certainly isn't load, there's no way an XM radio can do 20+. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 3:41 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > I'm with Rory. It depends a lot on the traffic, and and w

Re: [AFMUG] best thing on FB in a while

2015-06-08 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
lol ! - Original Message - From: Jay Weekley To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, June 08, 2015 12:52 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] best thing on FB in a while Just the Cyber Broadband staff and I doing a little tailgating on a pleasant weekend. Ty Featherling wrote: > I wish

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz

2015-06-08 Thread Rory Conaway
If you have file sharers on there for example, I’ve seen XM radios drop to 10Mbps or less (another reason we kill torrents). If you watch the modulation levels when that happens, you will also see them drop as the CPU load goes up. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh

Re: [AFMUG] best thing on FB in a while

2015-06-08 Thread Matt Hardy
Where are the Bama tailgate signs? :-D On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: > Just the Cyber Broadband staff and I doing a little tailgating on a > pleasant weekend. > > Ty Featherling wrote: > >> I wish I thought of that. That is funny right there! >> >> -Ty >> >> On Mon, Jun 8, 2

Re: [AFMUG] OT Halt and Catch Fire

2015-06-08 Thread Joshua Stump
I'd recommend checking out Silicon Valley on HBO (from Mike Judge) too... On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > It loosely follows a similar story line to some computer startups in > Texas in the 1980s. Perhaps Compaq or Pheonix. This season they are > following an on-line ga

Re: [AFMUG] OT Halt and Catch Fire

2015-06-08 Thread Josh Luthman
I *LOVE* that show. Last night's episode was great as always. Check out Mr. Robot. They did a pilot a few weeks ago and the first episode comes up in the next couple of weeks. They use a lot of the same IP terminology we use on this list without making it seem hokey (like IPv5 from CSI or creat

[AFMUG] very short NBM5 link wont perform

2015-06-08 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
We have a short, like 150 foot link NBM525 on both sides, no shields, we have peaked them to -30 we have turned power down, turned power up and pointed to the ground on bothe sides to get to -55. on 20 or 40. mhz channels, airmox off performs slightly better, but we can get more than 12-20 mb acros

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