[AFMUG] New WISP area on the Cambium Community

2017-12-06 Thread Ray Savich
Check out the new area of the Cambium Community designed for WISPs. * Download all spec sheets, case studies and solution papers * Check out designs for Yard Signs and Door Hangers * Discuss WISP issues with WISPs around the world Register at https://www.cambiumnetworks.

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution!

2017-10-06 Thread chuck
DIA and bandwidth usage cost is going to zero. But the port charge to access that DIA is not really going down much. From: Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Friday, October 6, 2017 1:28 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution! I charge you for the Coke ? and the

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution!

2017-10-06 Thread Tim Reichhart
If you have charter talk to somebody in WBI aka wholesale who can give you better rate then what regular business can give you.  Tim   -Original Message- From: "Faisal Imtiaz" To: af@afmug.com Date: 10/06/17 03:28 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul sol

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution!

2017-10-06 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > From: ch...@wbmfg.com > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Friday, October 6, 2017 10:41:38 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution! > Where you own the fiber. I am talking about zero for DIA. Port charges

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution!

2017-10-06 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 10/6/17 8:03 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: Okay, so your transit still costs you something. Companies don't really separate it out anymore. I feel like that's a thing of year's gone by. You want 3 gigs delivered there? $x. I take it as a clear sign of old school telcom when I see separate port

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution!

2017-10-06 Thread Mike Hammett
e Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, October 6, 2017 9:41:38 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution! Where you own the fiber. I am talking about zero for DIA. Port charges only. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Th

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution!

2017-10-06 Thread chuck
Where you own the fiber. I am talking about zero for DIA. Port charges only. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 5:32 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution! Where is transit zero? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution!

2017-10-05 Thread Eric Kuhnke
in.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > -----

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution!

2017-10-05 Thread Mike Hammett
sday, October 5, 2017 7:25:43 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution! several places, if you know the owners/operators of major content source ISPs (dedicated hosting/VPS/virtual server/colocation/rack & cage colo) that have extremely heavy outbound:inbound traffic rat

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution!

2017-10-05 Thread Eric Kuhnke
ers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > -- > *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Thursday, October 5, 2017 6:30:57 P

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution!

2017-10-05 Thread Mike Hammett
Where is transit zero? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 6:30:57 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution!

2017-10-05 Thread chuck
I know of one case where it is zero now. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 5:24 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution! It won't hit zero, the metric will just shift to gigabit. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solu

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution!

2017-10-05 Thread Mike Hammett
t: Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution! The trend is toward zero. Just port charges. Just like long distance did 10 years ago. From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 5:16 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution! You m

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution!

2017-10-05 Thread chuck
The trend is toward zero. Just port charges. Just like long distance did 10 years ago. From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 5:16 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution! You may be paying in the lowest rate bracket for the amount of

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution!

2017-10-05 Thread Josh Reynolds
:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution! For a new startup, the pricing you listed at 2.2/meg plus $750, that actually sounds pretty reasonable to get you into a fiber circuit in the 100-300 meg range. You're not going to be getting 20 cents per meg for DIA

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution!

2017-10-05 Thread chuck
I pay rates lower than 5 cents per meg... From: Chris Fabien Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 3:59 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution! For a new startup, the pricing you listed at 2.2/meg plus $750, that actually sounds pretty reasonable to get you

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution!

2017-10-05 Thread Chris Fabien
For a new startup, the pricing you listed at 2.2/meg plus $750, that actually sounds pretty reasonable to get you into a fiber circuit in the 100-300 meg range. You're not going to be getting 20 cents per meg for DIA unless you are buying a 10gig circuit in a datacenter or other very competitive m

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution!

2017-06-24 Thread Mike Hammett
urday, June 24, 2017 8:11:24 AM Subject: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution! We are getting ready to go live from a small connection in our office, just to the local community, using a omni antenna. We will be expanding throughout three counties in eastern NC. Having read a number

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution!

2017-06-24 Thread Lewis Bergman
Try to find a close peering facility and transport. May not help. Upstream pricing is highly localized. You should always try to drive down your cost but don't be surprised whenyour cost doesn't reach others who habe access to better connected facility. On Sat, Jun 24, 2017, 8:11 AM Al Rachide wr

[AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution!

2017-06-24 Thread Al Rachide
We are getting ready to go live from a small connection in our office, just to the local community, using a omni antenna. We will be expanding throughout three counties in eastern NC. Having read a number of post where others are claiming rates as low as $0.20 per mbit/sec, we can't get anything he

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP tool to burn through trees

2015-05-11 Thread Jay Weekley
I've recommended that technique but no one has taken me up on it that I know of. David Milholen wrote: Yeah, but not fun when fire dept is called LOL On 5/11/2015 4:26 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: Gas and matches are cheaper. Adam Moffett wrote: Yeah, that about melted my mind. On 5/11/2015 4:4

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP tool to burn through trees

2015-05-11 Thread David Milholen
Yeah, but not fun when fire dept is called LOL On 5/11/2015 4:26 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: Gas and matches are cheaper. Adam Moffett wrote: Yeah, that about melted my mind. On 5/11/2015 4:42 PM, Darin Steffl wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYKg0gbRFns Who needs NLOS gear when you have

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP tool to burn through trees

2015-05-11 Thread Jay Weekley
Gas and matches are cheaper. Adam Moffett wrote: Yeah, that about melted my mind. On 5/11/2015 4:42 PM, Darin Steffl wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYKg0gbRFns Who needs NLOS gear when you have this! -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP tool to burn through trees

2015-05-11 Thread Chuck McCown
Steve Buscemi in “Fargo- Payback Time” From: Adam Moffett Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 3:02 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New WISP tool to burn through trees Yeah, that about melted my mind. On 5/11/2015 4:42 PM, Darin Steffl wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYKg0gbRFns

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP tool to burn through trees

2015-05-11 Thread Glen Waldrop
I need one. Lemme check my funds... lol - Original Message - From: Darin Steffl To: memb...@wispa.org ; af@afmug.com ; Principal WISPA Member List Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 3:42 PM Subject: [AFMUG] New WISP tool to burn through trees https://www.youtube.com/watch?v

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP tool to burn through trees

2015-05-11 Thread Adam Moffett
Yeah, that about melted my mind. On 5/11/2015 4:42 PM, Darin Steffl wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYKg0gbRFns Who needs NLOS gear when you have this! -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi Like us on

[AFMUG] New WISP tool to burn through trees

2015-05-11 Thread Darin Steffl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYKg0gbRFns Who needs NLOS gear when you have this! -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi Like us on Facebook

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-08 Thread Trevor Bough
You guys have offered so much great advice. I really, truly appreciate it. I just booked my plane tickets and registered for Animal Farm! Hope to see you guys there! Can't wait to learn more and get this thing rolling! Thanks again! On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 6:21 PM, Trevor Bough wrote: > Hi guys,

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-08 Thread Josh Reynolds
you have a free employee that just likes doing it. Craig - Original Message - From: "Trevor Bough" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 8:23:29 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New WISP Ha ha what are the big problems with them? I know there have to be problems due

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-08 Thread Josh Reynolds
Huh? You mean like, your company or yourself as an individual? I'm pretty sure I would not let a third party *touch* anything on our network (sans vendors), let alone install an airmax radio. josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 01/06/2015 04:54 PM, J

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-07 Thread Andy Trimmell
sville, IN 46158 317-831-3000 ext 211 www.pdsconnect.me From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of joseph marsh Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2015 12:51 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New WISP Make sure u have spare equipment for a tower in case of lighting. Strike

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-07 Thread Chuck McCown
Not my invention. Disney uses that. -Original Message- From: Caleb Knauer Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2015 11:23 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New WISP "I am inviting you to find your happiness elsewhere." -- This is awesome. On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 12:29

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-07 Thread Caleb Knauer
to do things but > sometimes it is somewhat true). > > Once in a while: > Here is a box, pack your stuff and leave. John will escort you to the door. > > > From: Chuck McCown > Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2015 8:39 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New WISP &g

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-07 Thread joseph marsh
iminating your position (chicken-shit way to do things but >> sometimes it is somewhat true). >> >> Once in a while: >> Here is a box, pack your stuff and leave. John will escort you to the >> door. >> >> >> *From:* Chuck McCown >> *Sent:* Wedn

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-07 Thread Jaime Solorza
ating your position (chicken-shit way to do things but > sometimes it is somewhat true). > > Once in a while: > Here is a box, pack your stuff and leave. John will escort you to the > door. > > > *From:* Chuck McCown > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 07, 2015 8:39 AM > *T

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-07 Thread joseph marsh
times it is somewhat true). > > Once in a while: > Here is a box, pack your stuff and leave. John will escort you to the > door. > > > *From:* Chuck McCown > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 07, 2015 8:39 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New WISP > >

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-07 Thread Tyler Treat
door. From: Chuck McCown<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2015 8:39 AM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New WISP Things to do: Pick the right radio the first time. I am partial to Cambium products. This is like getting married and having a bu

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-07 Thread Chuck McCown
07, 2015 8:39 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New WISP Things to do: Pick the right radio the first time. I am partial to Cambium products. This is like getting married and having a bunch of kids and having a bunch of inlaws move in with you. Don’t screw it up. You have to live

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-07 Thread Bill Prince
*** Take all the free advice from Chuck McCown you can get... bp On 1/7/2015 7:39 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: Things to do: Pick the right radio the first time. I am partial to Cambium products. This is like getting married and having a bunch of kids and having a bunch of inlaws

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-07 Thread Chuck McCown
Things to do: Pick the right radio the first time. I am partial to Cambium products. This is like getting married and having a bunch of kids and having a bunch of inlaws move in with you. Don’t screw it up. You have to live with it 24/7/365. Get into fiber as soon as you can. Take

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-07 Thread Adam Moffett
;mailto:af@afmug.com> TB> Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 8:17:48 PM TB> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New WISP TB> You guys are great! Thank you for all of the great advice! I TB> truly appreciate it. Does anyone have any expe

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-07 Thread joseph marsh
We are in the process of getting our sales and tech support routed though server plus and integrate our back office with them. On Jan 7, 2015 7:49 AM, "Caleb Knauer" wrote: > Customers need tech support. Residential will need more support but > you can work with the urgency. Business will need

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-07 Thread Jason McKemie
Also, don't plan on doing anything else for a while. And I mean ANYTHING else - a bathroom break might be possible, however. On Wednesday, January 7, 2015, Caleb Knauer wrote: > Customers need tech support. Residential will need more support but > you can work with the urgency. Business will n

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-07 Thread Caleb Knauer
Customers need tech support. Residential will need more support but you can work with the urgency. Business will need less support typically but will be much more urgent. It's hard to grow a business if you're the only one putting out fires. Have support in place before it gets rolling hard. O

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-07 Thread Josh Baird
I second this. On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 2:51 AM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: > Attend either Animal Farm (www.afmug.com) or the WISPA show in St Louis > http://www.cvent.com/events/wispamerica-2015/event-summary-5fddb419659f4b57871bfd2d0b690a85.aspx > > > You will learn a lot at either show. > > Mark >

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-07 Thread Trevor Bough
Thank you guys so much for all of the info. I'm so glad that I stumbled upon this community. You guys are great!

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-06 Thread Mark Radabaugh
Attend either Animal Farm (www.afmug.com ) or the WISPA show in St Louis http://www.cvent.com/events/wispamerica-2015/event-summary-5fddb419659f4b57871bfd2d0b690a85.aspx

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-06 Thread That One Guy
gt; TB> Ha ha what are the big problems with them? I know there have >>> TB> to be problems due to the fact you are dealing with the government. >>> >>> TB> On Jan 6, 2015 8:18 PM, "Craig House" >>> TB> wrote: >>> TB> Run away don

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-06 Thread Adam Moffett
lto:trevorbo...@gmail.com>> TB> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> TB> Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 8:17:48 PM TB> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New WISP TB> You guys are great! Thank you for all of the great advice! I TB> truly appreciat

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-06 Thread Jeremy
: >> >> TB> Ha ha what are the big problems with them? I know there have >> TB> to be problems due to the fact you are dealing with the government. >> >> TB> On Jan 6, 2015 8:18 PM, "Craig House" >> TB> wrote: >> TB> Run away dont wal

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-06 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
15 01:29:25 + *To: *mailto:af@afmug.com>> *ReplyTo: * af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] New WISP Shielded cable with shielded connectors on every install. I recommend Shireen on towers and installs. A lot of the

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-06 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
Blasphemy! On 1/6/2015 8:03 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: And at tower sites, label everything.

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-06 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies
;Craig House" TB>> wrote: TB>> Run away dont walk TB>> From: "Trevor Bough" TB>> To: af@afmug.com TB>> Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 8:17:48 PM TB>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New WISP TB>> You guys are great! Thank you for all of t

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-06 Thread Trevor Bough
ote: > TB> Run away dont walk > > > > > > > > TB> From: "Trevor Bough" > TB> To: af@afmug.com > TB> Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 8:17:48 PM > TB> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New WISP > > > TB> You guys are great! Thank you for a

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-06 Thread Jeremy
s space and autonomous system number. And don’t NAT a > bunch of customers to one public IP. > > > *From:* Jerry Richardson > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 06, 2015 8:22 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New WISP > > A big one is to know where your bandwidt

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-06 Thread Adam Moffett
cr...@totalhighspeed.net>> wrote: Run away dont walk *From: *"Trevor Bough" mailto:trevorbo...@gmail.com>> *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 6, 2015 8:17:48 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] New WISP You

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-06 Thread Josh Baird
n > public IP address space and autonomous system number. And don’t NAT a > bunch of customers to one public IP. > > > *From:* Jerry Richardson > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 06, 2015 8:22 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New WISP > > A big one is

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-06 Thread Ken Hohhof
Oh, that brings up another point. If at all possible, get your own public IP address space and autonomous system number. And don’t NAT a bunch of customers to one public IP. From: Jerry Richardson Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 8:22 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New WISP A big

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-06 Thread Craig House
y 6, 2015 8:23:29 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New WISP Ha ha what are the big problems with them? I know there have to be problems due to the fact you are dealing with the government. On Jan 6, 2015 8:18 PM, "Craig House" < cr...@totalhighspeed.net > wrote: Run away dont walk

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-06 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies
gt; From: "Trevor Bough" TB> To: af@afmug.com TB> Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 8:17:48 PM TB> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New WISP TB> You guys are great! Thank you for all of the great advice! I TB> truly appreciate it. Does anyone have any experience with TB> government grant

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-06 Thread Trevor Bough
; *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Tuesday, January 6, 2015 8:17:48 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] New WISP > > You guys are great! Thank you for all of the great advice! I truly > appreciate it. Does anyone have any experience with government grants? > >

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-06 Thread Jerry Richardson
> competitors and super-cheap wifi guys and many of the times we swap customers > a complete reinstall is required. > From: Trevor Bough > Sender: "Af" > Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2015 00:21:09 + > To: > ReplyTo: af@afmug.com > Subject: [AFMUG] New WISP > >

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-06 Thread Craig House
Run away dont walk - Original Message - From: "Trevor Bough" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 8:17:48 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New WISP You guys are great! Thank you for all of the great advice! I truly appreciate it. Does anyone have any exper

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-06 Thread Trevor Bough
You guys are great! Thank you for all of the great advice! I truly appreciate it. Does anyone have any experience with government grants?

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-06 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
and as soon as you stand up to them they'll beg you to let them stay. - Original Message - From: cstann...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 7:30 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New WISP Oh and if a customer is a huge PITA or doesn't want t

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-06 Thread Mathew Howard
>>> grounding on your tripod or mast is the protection from ESD and keeps >>> surges outside the house. >>> >>> -- >>> *From: * Jeremy >>> *Sender: * "Af" >>> *Date: *Wed, 7 Jan 2015 01:29:25 + >&

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-06 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
Yesall of the above, and build some insulation between you and your customers as soon as possible. - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 6:23 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New WISP Get a billing system. Powercode or

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-06 Thread Jon Langeler
Ha well that's true too Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 6, 2015, at 8:54 PM, Jason McKemie > wrote: > > Wha? I think doing your own installs is fine, especially in the beginning. > You learn a few things, can get your CPE set up the way you want it, and save > money. > >> On Tue, Jan 6, 201

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-06 Thread Ken Hohhof
: Re: [AFMUG] New WISP Wha? I think doing your own installs is fine, especially in the beginning. You learn a few things, can get your CPE set up the way you want it, and save money. On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 7:51 PM, Jon Langeler wrote: don't do your own installs.

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-06 Thread Ken Hohhof
. From: Jon Langeler Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 7:51 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New WISP don't bother with anything single polarity at this stage. don't do your own installs. be well funded. have free help. things like that... Sent from my iPhone On Jan 6, 2015,

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-06 Thread Jason McKemie
Wha? I think doing your own installs is fine, especially in the beginning. You learn a few things, can get your CPE set up the way you want it, and save money. On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 7:51 PM, Jon Langeler wrote: > don't do your own installs.

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-06 Thread Josh Luthman
I prefer doing my own installs but it doesn't matter too much if it is done right. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 6, 2015 8:51 PM, "Jon Langeler" wrote: > don't bother with anything single polarity at this stage. don't do you

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-06 Thread Josh Luthman
ct from ESD as it leads inside the house. The >> grounding on your tripod or mast is the protection from ESD and keeps >> surges outside the house. >> >> -- >> *From: * Jeremy >> *Sender: * "Af" >> *Date: *Wed, 7 Jan

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-06 Thread Jon Langeler
don't bother with anything single polarity at this stage. don't do your own installs. be well funded. have free help. things like that... Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 6, 2015, at 7:21 PM, Trevor Bough wrote: > > Hi guys, long time listener, first time caller. I'm looking at starting a new > r

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-06 Thread Adam Moffett
Don't compromise on backup power. You may hear it argued that if the tower doesn't have power the customers don't eitherI've never found that to be true. There are a few customers who aren't worth having. and +1 to everything Ken said. Especially on planning and capitalization. I h

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-06 Thread Jeremy
install (if they're not in arrears) and the phone > number of our (least liked) competitor". > -- > *From: * Trevor Bough > *Sender: * "Af" > *Date: *Wed, 7 Jan 2015 00:21:09 + > *To: * > *ReplyTo: * af@afmug.com > *Subject: *[

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-06 Thread Jeremy
* > *ReplyTo: * af@afmug.com > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] New WISP > > Shielded cable with shielded connectors on every install. I recommend > Shireen on towers and installs. A lot of the guys use UBNT tough cable. > Whatever, just shield and ground. If you cut in wallplates (you

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-06 Thread cstanners
ot;Af" Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2015 01:29:25 To: Reply-To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New WISP Shielded cable with shielded connectors on every install. I recommend Shireen on towers and installs. A lot of the guys use UBNT tough cable. Whatever, just shield and ground. If you cut in wallp

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-06 Thread cstanners
;. -Original Message- From: Trevor Bough Sender: "Af" Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2015 00:21:09 To: Reply-To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] New WISP Hi guys, long time listener, first time caller. I'm looking at starting a new rural WISP and was wondering if you guys could share

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-06 Thread Jeremy
;>> on a problem. For example, a message on your voicemail. >>>> >>>> Train your customers from day one. For example, let calls go to >>>> voicemail after hours and call them back, or they will assume they can call >>>> any time of day or nig

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-06 Thread Jeremy
hey >>> won’t be pissed off when you take them away. Like Trevor used to answer >>> his cellphone at all hours, now I have to call the office and leave a >>> message. Or the service has really gone downhill, I used to get 20 meg >>> speeds now I only get 10 (even th

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-06 Thread Jeremy
s really gone downhill, I used to get 20 meg >> speeds now I only get 10 (even though they are on a 5 meg plan). Or I used >> to wait 3 months and then pay up, now if I’m 5 days late, they cut me off. >> Better to set their expectations early. >> >> >> *From:*

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-06 Thread Jeremy
20 meg speeds now I > only get 10 (even though they are on a 5 meg plan). Or I used to wait 3 > months and then pay up, now if I’m 5 days late, they cut me off. Better to > set their expectations early. > > > *From:* Jeremy > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 06, 2015 6:34 PM > *

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-06 Thread cstanners
and super-cheap wifi guys and many of the times we swap customers a complete reinstall is required. -Original Message- From: Trevor Bough Sender: "Af" Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2015 00:21:09 To: Reply-To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] New WISP Hi guys, long time listener, first t

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-06 Thread Ken Hohhof
their expectations early. From: Jeremy Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 6:34 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New WISP Have a million dollars. Cash. On Jan 6, 2015 5:23 PM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: Get a billing system. Powercode or whatever. Don't finance custo

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-06 Thread Erich Kaiser
Trevor where are looking to start a WISP? Many of us have started(Some still using) with just using quickbooks and excel spreasheets. You can use something like IPPlan to manage your IP info. Use Mikrotik routers (Many of us are familiar with them), the biggest question is what type of gear to u

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-06 Thread Jeremy
Have a million dollars. Cash. On Jan 6, 2015 5:23 PM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: > Get a billing system. Powercode or whatever. > > Don't finance customers that can't pay up front, wastes billing time > instead of installing more customers. > > Don't use your cell phone for the office. Get a hosted

Re: [AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-06 Thread Josh Luthman
Get a billing system. Powercode or whatever. Don't finance customers that can't pay up front, wastes billing time instead of installing more customers. Don't use your cell phone for the office. Get a hosted PBX. Close the shop so you don't get burnt out, have other people and or a call center.

[AFMUG] New WISP

2015-01-06 Thread Trevor Bough
Hi guys, long time listener, first time caller. I'm looking at starting a new rural WISP and was wondering if you guys could share some of the things you wish you had known when you started out. Things to absolutely stay away from, things that you didn't think of first, but made your life 10x easie