DIS: Re: BUS: RE-RE-REVISED Tournament Submission

2023-04-14 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 4/14/23 14:32, juan via agora-business wrote: I petition the Surveyor to stop prepending REs to this email thread subject. Use version numbers instead. The regulations do have version numbers. -- nix Prime Minister, Herald, Collector

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [EMERGENCY] Fooey to Tue

2023-04-14 Thread juan via agora-discussion
Janet Cobb via agora-discussion [2023-04-14 15:04]: > On 4/14/23 14:57, nix via agora-business wrote: > > I intend, with 3 Agoran Consent, to enact the following emergency > > regulation: > > > > {The PM CAN flip the publicity of Tue to Foreign, by announcement.} > > > > It's time to let tue

DIS: Re: BUS: [EMERGENCY] Fooey to Tue

2023-04-14 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 4/14/23 14:57, nix via agora-business wrote: > I intend, with 3 Agoran Consent, to enact the following emergency > regulation: > > {The PM CAN flip the publicity of Tue to Foreign, by announcement.} > > It's time to let tue sleep (and simplify our list of fora). This is an > emergency because

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proto] deregulation and tournaments

2023-04-13 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 4/13/23 14:53, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: Overall pleased to see this reorganization and simplification. Amend Rule 2464 (Tournaments) to read in full: [Should the gamemaster by-default have interpretation privilege if not arbitrary and capricious? If so insert

DIS: Re: BUS: REVISED Tournament Submission

2023-04-13 Thread nix via agora-discussion
Responding to the suggestions I didn't take, most of them I did take. On 4/13/23 13:40, Janet Cobb via agora-business wrote: On 4/13/23 14:20, nix via agora-business wrote: Playing === Any player CAN become a participant of this Tournament at any time during its play by announcement.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Tournament Submission

2023-04-13 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 10:52 AM Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion wrote: > What are generally the unwritten behaviour rules on Tournaments like these? > - Can I collude with other players in private? > - Can I participate without the intent to win, and instead just behave > according to how

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Tournament Submission

2023-04-13 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 4/13/23 12:51, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion wrote: What are generally the unwritten behaviour rules on Tournaments like these? - Can I collude with other players in private? - Can I participate without the intent to win, and instead just behave according to how I'm secretly paid to

DIS: Re: BUS: Tournament Submission

2023-04-13 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
What are generally the unwritten behaviour rules on Tournaments like these? - Can I collude with other players in private? - Can I participate without the intent to win, and instead just behave according to how I'm secretly paid to behave? - How are kingmaking situations viewed? On Thu, Apr 13,

DIS: Re: BUS: Tournament Submission

2023-04-13 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 4/13/23 12:25, nix via agora-business wrote: I intend, with 2 Agoran Consent, to start the following tournament: { Name: Commune And of course, I forgot to add any sort of "The Surveyor publishes a report of all this info once a week" clause. But I will do so if this tournament passes.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Rock, paper, etc

2023-04-12 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
It seems possible to have a contracts-only nomic, lol On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 9:24 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > Putting together a repeal proposal for regs rn. > > Fair warning: I agree with the "daunting" feeling, but the rules text > for

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Rock, paper, etc

2023-04-12 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
Putting together a repeal proposal for regs rn. Fair warning: I agree with the "daunting" feeling, but the rules text for tournaments as contracts is no shorter than tournaments as regulations (based on looking at a previous version), in fact to me it's a bit more complex because contracts have

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Rock, paper, etc

2023-04-12 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 4/12/23 14:16, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion wrote: Regulations to me feel more daunting, aesthetically, than contracts. Maybe regulations could be folded into contracts too? (Probably promises as well?) Personally, I'd rather remove all of the above than fold them in together; I've

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Rock, paper, etc

2023-04-12 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
Regulations to me feel more daunting, aesthetically, than contracts. Maybe regulations could be folded into contracts too? (Probably promises as well?) On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 6:15 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 7:16 AM

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Rock, paper, etc

2023-04-12 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 7:16 AM nix via agora-discussion wrote: > On 4/12/23 09:14, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion wrote: > > Seeing this game play out, I think it would be possible to simplify the > > Tournament rules greatly by just making win-granting a power that certain > > Contracts

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Rock, paper, etc

2023-04-12 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 4/12/23 10:47, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion wrote: Exactly, there's an overlap in that both purport to produce some kind of arbitrary text with certain powers. Oh I see what you mean. Tournaments are a long-standing part of the game with a narrow focus. Contracts aren't always

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Rock, paper, etc

2023-04-12 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
Exactly, there's an overlap in that both purport to produce some kind of arbitrary text with certain powers. On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 4:17 PM nix via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 4/12/23 09:14, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion wrote: > > Seeing this game

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Rock, paper, etc

2023-04-12 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 4/12/23 09:17, juan via agora-business wrote: I'm worried about language such as "I commit to the following document". How flexible is it? For example, could I just say “I play a hand” and attach a hash? It really depends on the contract wording and opinions of members of the contract.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Rock, paper, etc

2023-04-12 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 4/12/23 09:14, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion wrote: Seeing this game play out, I think it would be possible to simplify the Tournament rules greatly by just making win-granting a power that certain Contracts can have, if they have the same level of authorization (2 Agoran consent)

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Rock, paper, etc

2023-04-12 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
Seeing this game play out, I think it would be possible to simplify the Tournament rules greatly by just making win-granting a power that certain Contracts can have, if they have the same level of authorization (2 Agoran consent) that regular Tournaments currently require, with some safety rails

DIS: Re: BUS: Rock, paper, etc

2023-04-12 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 4/12/23 09:03, juan via agora-business wrote: I CFJ: the contract RPSLS has terminated. This seems plainly true, unless I'm missing something. Contracts have a lot of leeway to do this kinds of passive changes. We ceased to be parties when you published, and it ceased to exist when it had

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 8946-8951 [attn. Notary]

2023-04-11 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
I'll word it next time so that past pledges count too On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 8:35 PM Janet Cobb via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 4/11/23 11:55, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-business wrote: > > I change my vote on 8947 to {AGAINST, but FOR instead if its author >

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Rulekeepor] RTRW 2023 Wind-Up

2023-04-11 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 4/3/23 15:44, Janet Cobb wrote: > On 4/3/23 15:31, nix via agora-business wrote: >> On 4/1/23 23:38, Janet Cobb via agora-official wrote: >>> As such, I petition the Herald to award G. the patent title of "Stares >>> Decisively". (Name selected on Discord.) >> I intend to, with 2 Agoran

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 8946-8951

2023-04-11 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
I didn't notice that and will use conditionals to avoid situations like this On Tuesday, April 11, 2023, Janet Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 4/11/23 09:27, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-business wrote: > >> 8949* Janet 3.0 Might as

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Rules as Items V4

2023-04-11 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 4/11/23 10:22, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion wrote: I don't see it that way. There are plenty of nomics that have played for extended periods of time with no payment for being the author of a proposal. We don't have to play the same way other nomics do. Gamifying Proposal-passing

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 8946-8951

2023-04-11 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 4/11/23 09:27, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-business wrote: >> 8949* Janet 3.0 Might as well ask? > AGAINST > If this is AGAINST on the merits, fine, but I have already pledged not to take a radiance award from this. -- Janet Cobb Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

DIS: Re: BUS: Rules as Items V4

2023-04-11 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
I don't see it that way. There are plenty of nomics that have played for extended periods of time with no payment for being the author of a proposal. Gamifying Proposal-passing like that gamifies both Proposal-making and Proposal-voting. This is especially the case with Radiance where having one

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Rules as Items V4

2023-04-11 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 4/11/23 10:12, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: But yeah, I see that all these things aren't really "newbie" friendly. Gerontocracy is a hot topic that gets brought up... probably quarterly? Could be wrong, but I don't think this is really a gerontocratic issue but more an

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Rules as Items V4

2023-04-11 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 4/11/23 09:41, Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion wrote: But yeah, I see that all these things aren't really "newbie" friendly. Gerontocracy is a hot topic that gets brought up... probably quarterly? It's true that CFJs and Proposals and Offices have a learning curve (tho most people are

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Rules as Items V4

2023-04-11 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 7:41 AM Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion wrote: > I think it is good to reward proposals. Proposals are the primary gameplay > of ANY nomic, so I don't have any trouble with rewards. But I do see what > you mean about how it is imbalanced: you could work hard on a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Rules as Items V4

2023-04-11 Thread Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion
On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 6:07 AM Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I didn't realize the radiance thing. Oh dear. > > On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 2:42 PM Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > On Tue, Apr 11,

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 8946-8951

2023-04-11 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 4/11/23 08:27, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-business wrote: All of the Proposals sort of have the invisible extra rider of "And also give 4 Radiance to this Proposal's author", and while I may normally agree with a couple of these Proposals, I'm not as convinced when each of them has that

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Rules as Items V4

2023-04-11 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
I didn't realize the radiance thing. Oh dear. On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 2:42 PM Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 4:55 AM Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > This probably adds

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Rules as Items V4

2023-04-11 Thread Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion
On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 4:55 AM Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > This probably adds an incentive to AGAINST everything from specific people > who are about to win with crystals. Or AGAINST in general, I suppose. > ... Overall, radiance makes it

DIS: Re: BUS: Rules as Items V4

2023-04-11 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
This probably adds an incentive to AGAINST everything from specific people who are about to win with crystals. Or AGAINST in general, I suppose. On Tuesday, April 11, 2023, Forest Sweeney via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > This has been fluctuating from serious to

DIS: Re: BUS: Rules as Items V4

2023-04-10 Thread Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion
On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 3:31 PM Forest Sweeney via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > This has been fluctuating from serious to non-serious, which is where a > rule should be seems there's a little more support now than before, and > I've made some changes. > Overall,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Standardizing language

2023-04-10 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 4/10/23 14:57, Janet Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: (Also, it might be better to include context rather than just "first instance of 'may'".) Why? Eliminates any chance of accidentally changing the wrong thing due to a concurrent proposal, and is clearer for the reader on what's being

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Standardizing language

2023-04-10 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 4/10/23 15:51, juan via agora-discussion wrote: > Janet Cobb via agora-business [2023-04-10 15:41]: >> On 4/10/23 15:38, juan via agora-business wrote: >>> I create and submit the following proposal: >>> >>> { >>> Title: Standardizing CANs >>> Author: juan >>> A.I.: 3.0 >>> >>>

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Standardizing language

2023-04-10 Thread juan via agora-discussion
Janet Cobb via agora-business [2023-04-10 15:41]: > On 4/10/23 15:38, juan via agora-business wrote: > > I create and submit the following proposal: > > > > { > > Title: Standardizing CANs > > Author: juan > > A.I.: 3.0 > > > > Ammend Rule 478 by replacing its first instance of

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 8946-8951

2023-04-10 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 4/10/23 15:42, juan via agora-discussion wrote: >>> Anyhow, I change my vote on 8949 to FOR. >>> >>> P.S.: how scammable? >>> >> I could make a pledge to do so with a time limit of 1 second. > I mean… > >> Allowing a pledge to expire without carrying out an action one pledged >> to do in it

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 8946-8951

2023-04-10 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 12:36 PM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > > Wow, ok. Just tried to be cheeky and make a fun little action. Note that > > I also want forgiveness on a missed deadline. Just seemed fair. > > > Sorry, no rebuke implied. And I admittedly didn't check whether you had >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 8946-8951

2023-04-10 Thread juan via agora-discussion
Janet Cobb via agora-discussion [2023-04-10 15:36]: > On 4/10/23 15:32, juan via agora-business wrote: > > Janet Cobb via agora-discussion [2023-04-10 15:25]: > >> On 4/10/23 15:06, juan via agora-business wrote: > 8949* Janet 3.0 Might as well ask? > >>> Conditional:

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 8946-8951

2023-04-10 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 4/10/23 15:32, juan via agora-business wrote: > Janet Cobb via agora-discussion [2023-04-10 15:25]: >> On 4/10/23 15:06, juan via agora-business wrote: 8949* Janet 3.0 Might as well ask? >>> Conditional: FOR if any of the following conditions are met: >>> >>> - Janet

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 8946-8951

2023-04-10 Thread juan via agora-discussion
secretsnail9 via agora-discussion [2023-04-10 14:10]: > I recommend tagging your proposals with "[Proposal]". I almost missed > G.'s proposal because it wasn't tagged, and once I got it I thought I had > them all, but apparently not. It's my bad for missing (@Promotor) though, > even if [Proposal]

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 8946-8951

2023-04-10 Thread juan via agora-discussion
nix via agora-discussion [2023-04-10 14:11]: > On 4/10/23 14:06, juan via agora-business wrote: > > > 8950~ nix 2.0 Major Stamp Reform > > AGAINST. Don't touch my stamps. > > > > Ugh, I give up. I don't think there's a good consensus on what kind of play > people want

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 8946-8951

2023-04-10 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 4/10/23 15:06, juan via agora-business wrote: >> 8949* Janet 3.0 Might as well ask? > Conditional: FOR if any of the following conditions are met: > > - Janet has pledged to vote FOR the first proposal that performs the > following action, and no others: Turn juan's

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 8946-8951

2023-04-10 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 4/10/23 14:06, juan via agora-business wrote: 8950~ nix 2.0 Major Stamp Reform AGAINST. Don't touch my stamps. Ugh, I give up. I don't think there's a good consensus on what kind of play people want right now. -- nix Prime Minister, Herald, Collector

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 8946-8951

2023-04-10 Thread secretsnail9 via agora-discussion
> On Apr 10, 2023, at 1:57 PM, juan via agora-business > wrote: > > secretsnail9 via agora-official [2023-04-09 18:37]: >> PROMOTOR'S REPORT AS OF RIGHT NOW >> >> […] >> >> ID Author(s) AITitle >>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 8946-8951

2023-04-10 Thread ais523 via agora-discussion
On Mon, 2023-04-10 at 09:11 -0500, nix via agora-discussion wrote: > On 4/10/23 07:40, ais523 via agora-business wrote: > > AGAINST - I agree with most of this, but halving stamps every month is > > too frequent, and likely going to lead to very uninteresting gameplay > > (I suspect there isn't

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 8946-8951

2023-04-10 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 4/10/23 07:40, ais523 via agora-business wrote: AGAINST - I agree with most of this, but halving stamps every month is too frequent, and likely going to lead to very uninteresting gameplay (I suspect there isn't enough time to accumulate enough stamps to make trades worthwhile) - the 1/week

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] v3

2023-04-09 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 4/6/23 13:05, nix via agora-business wrote: > Amend R2499 by adding, after the bulleted list: > >   When a player receives a Welcome Package, set eir Gathering Power >   to 4. I think we should avoid the imperative voice in rules text. > Amend R2642 to read in full: > >  

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Assessor) Votes on Proposals 8946 to 8951

2023-04-09 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 4/9/23 22:08, Forest Sweeney via agora-business wrote: > (8951 note: There are notions of "positive" and "negative" zero, however > incorrect or correct, so I find positive zero to be a valid positive > integer personally, and there is no limitation on what positive means in > the ruleset.)

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Stonemason] Billboard Rock Chart - 9 Apr 2023

2023-04-09 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 4/9/23 03:58, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote: Since I reached first, the Hot Potato stone should have gone to me when the week changed: From Rule 2642 (Gathering Stones): At the beginning of each week, the stone specified by the player with the highest Modified

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: ATTENTION REGISTRAR. A MESSAGE FROM THE OUTER SPHERE

2023-04-09 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 4/9/23 08:37, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion wrote: Do we even have taxes? We do not have taxes. The closest thing we have to taxes, as far as I can tell, is the quarterly radiance decay. E may also be referring to the stamp decay in my recent stamp proposal? In any case, not to

DIS: Re: BUS: ATTENTION REGISTRAR. A MESSAGE FROM THE OUTER SPHERE

2023-04-09 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
Do we even have taxes? On Sunday, April 9, 2023, Janet Cobb via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 4/9/23 02:08, Marfy Marf via agora-business wrote: > > I submit this document ,a Cantus Cygneus, to the registrar > > > > I come from a distant land. I have heard stories

DIS: Re: BUS: [Referee] Weekly Report

2023-04-08 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 4/9/23 01:19, Forest Sweeney via agora-business wrote: > I deputize as Referee, since this office is important for the assessor. I > investigate and nix GUILTY of weekly tardiness for 0 blots. > I publish the weekly report: I'm not sure this works. The communication standard for deputisation

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Use it or lose it

2023-04-04 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 4/4/23 20:01, nix via agora-business wrote: Title: Use it or lose it AI: 2.0 Author: nix Coauthor(s): [There's too many grandfathered-in stamps sitting around. Also, hoarding stamps is very advantageous right now compared to other ways to gain radiance. This adds pressure to using stamps,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Herald] Awards Month (@Promotor, @Arbitor, @Tailor, @ADoP)

2023-04-04 Thread Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion
On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 4:29 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 12:57 PM nix via agora-discussion > wrote: > > - Wooden Gavel, awardable by the Arbitor to the judge of a CFJ > > or series of CFJs with a strong

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Herald] Awards Month (@Promotor, @Arbitor, @Tailor, @ADoP)

2023-04-03 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 12:57 PM nix via agora-discussion wrote: > - Wooden Gavel, awardable by the Arbitor to the judge of a CFJ > or series of CFJs with a strong and foundational impact on the > judicial precedents of Agora (additional information: ID >

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Rulekeepor] RTRW 2023 Wind-Up

2023-04-03 Thread Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion
On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 12:31 PM nix via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 4/1/23 23:38, Janet Cobb via agora-official wrote: > > As such, I petition the Herald to award G. the patent title of "Stares > > Decisively". (Name selected on Discord.) > > I intend to, with 2

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Herald] Awards Month (@Promotor, @Arbitor, @Tailor, @ADoP)

2023-04-03 Thread nix via agora-discussion
Oh also, everyone else should feel welcome to submit suggestions. On 4/3/23 14:56, nix via agora-discussion wrote:    - Silver Quill, awardable by the Promotor to the author of a proposal of outstanding merit and influence on the game, or to a coauthor, although e

DIS: Re: BUS: [Herald] Awards Month (@Promotor, @Arbitor, @Tailor, @ADoP)

2023-04-03 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 4/3/23 14:46, nix via agora-business wrote: April is Awards Month. Here is the relevant rule: Let's try that again with better formatting: Rule 2582/2 (Power=1) Annual Awards April is hereby designated Awards Month. The following Patent Titles CAN be awarded by the indicated

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Radiance (Weekly, 03 Apr 23)

2023-04-03 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 4/3/23 14:46, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote: CoE: Murphy, nix, and juan each actually have 1 less point. (There were 11 active players, so 6/3 = 2). True, I'll respond with a revision shortly. -- nix Prime Minister, Herald, Collector

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fixing CoEs for Radiance

2023-04-03 Thread juan via agora-discussion
Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion [2023-03-31 11:33]: > On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 6:10 AM juan via agora-business > wrote: > > Append to Rule 2201 Self-Ratification the following text: > > > > "4. Retract the document, making it so as if it were never > > published." > > I'm pretty

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 8940-8945

2023-04-02 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 4/2/23 15:32, secretsnail9 via agora-discussion wrote: > >>> 8945~ snail 2.0 Going up >> AGAINST - what a horribly overpowered idea, rule power shouldn't be >> gamefied by ephemera. > It's fine if it's overpowered, it's quarterly! (Glances at the recursion > stone) > >

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Dream Keeper) Envisioning But Weird

2023-04-02 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 4/2/23 18:59, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote: If the value Janet has most recently envisioned is the Dream of Charity, and no player has envisioned the dream of charity in the past 24 hours, I envision the dream of wealth. If 2 or more players have envisioned the dream of Charity in

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Assessor/Voting) Votes on 8940-8945

2023-04-02 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 4/2/23 18:07, Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion wrote: > On 4/2/23 15:03, Janet Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: >> On 4/2/23 17:13, Forest Sweeney via agora-business wrote: >>> 8943 AGAINST >>> I don't want to give Janet some radiance >>> for something that hasn't gotten anyone >>> any

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Assessor/Voting) Votes on 8940-8945

2023-04-02 Thread Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion
On 4/2/23 15:03, Janet Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: On 4/2/23 17:13, Forest Sweeney via agora-business wrote: 8943 AGAINST I don't want to give Janet some radiance for something that hasn't gotten anyone any radiance yet. Except you agree that it's broken? Of course it's broken, yet no

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Assessor/Voting) Votes on 8940-8945

2023-04-02 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 4/2/23 17:13, Forest Sweeney via agora-business wrote: > 8943 AGAINST > I don't want to give Janet some radiance > for something that hasn't gotten anyone > any radiance yet. Except you agree that it's broken? > 8944 AGAINST > I don't know what this does > or what problem it 'fixes' > and

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 8940-8945

2023-04-02 Thread secretsnail9 via agora-discussion
>> 8945~ snail 2.0 Going up > AGAINST - what a horribly overpowered idea, rule power shouldn't be > gamefied by ephemera. It's fine if it's overpowered, it's quarterly! (Glances at the recursion stone) But seriously, power just BEGS to be gameified, that's my immediate

DIS: Re: BUS: Fixing CoEs for Radiance

2023-03-31 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 6:10 AM juan via agora-business wrote: > Append to Rule 2201 Self-Ratification the following text: > > "4. Retract the document, making it so as if it were never published." I'm pretty sure this leads directly to Paradox (if the document was never

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Promotor/Proposal)

2023-03-31 Thread Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion
On 3/31/23 08:31, nix via agora-discussion wrote: On 3/31/23 10:27, Forest Sweeney via agora-business wrote: Title: No, you cannot save them up Adoption Index: 1.0 Author: 4st Co-author: Are you looking at an old version of the rules? This was already fixed by P8932. Current ruletext says:

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Promotor/Proposal)

2023-03-31 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 3/31/23 10:27, Forest Sweeney via agora-business wrote: Title: No, you cannot save them up Adoption Index: 1.0 Author: 4st Co-author: Are you looking at an old version of the rules? This was already fixed by P8932. Current ruletext says: Each time a player fulfills a radiance

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Promotor/Proposal) A Proposal for Cleaning.

2023-03-28 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
Add me in next time :v) On Tuesday, March 28, 2023, Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > Oh no, you got me s > > :) > > tir. 28. mar. 2023, 8:29 p.m. skrev Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-business < > agora-busin...@agoranomic.org>: > > > I object to all

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Promotor/Proposal) A Proposal for Cleaning.

2023-03-28 Thread Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion
Oh no, you got me s :) tir. 28. mar. 2023, 8:29 p.m. skrev Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org>: > I object to all intents to declare apathy > > On Tuesday, March 28, 2023, Forest Sweeney via agora-business < > agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > (+

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A Simple Stamp Agreement @Notary

2023-03-27 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
I appreciate it On Monday, March 27, 2023, nix via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 3/27/23 20:59, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion wrote: > >> I immediately regret this, seeing how common ais523 stamps are. >> > > I transfer an ais523 stamp to Yachay. Maybe 2 for

DIS: Re: BUS: A Simple Stamp Agreement @Notary

2023-03-27 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
I immediately regret this, seeing how common ais523 stamps are. On Monday, March 27, 2023, Yachay Wayllukuq wrote: > I take one of those from the Library and cash it in. > > I transfer one Yachay stamp to nix > > On Monday, March 27, 2023, nix via agora-business < >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Sacrilege

2023-03-27 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 11:25 AM Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion: > I withdraw this CFJ. > I respond to the CoE instead by accepting the error, > and letting all declared ritual numbers that had this as dependency fail. You may know this, but "accepting the error" does nothing as it is not

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal Submission - Asceticism

2023-03-27 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 3/27/23 16:49, Janet Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: >> An Ascetic cannot gain Radiance. Once per week, an Ascetic can Meditate by >> announcement. Doing so grants them 1 Stamp of their own Type, plus 1 more >> if the current period they have been an Ascetic for is more than 1 month in >>

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal Submission - Asceticism

2023-03-27 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 3/27/23 11:53, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-business wrote: > Title: Ascetics > Adoption Index: 1.0 > Author: Yachay > Co-Author(s): > > Enact the following rule: Title of the rule? Not strictly necessary, just leaves the choice to me. > { > Players are Ascetics or not (this is their

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal Submission - Asceticism

2023-03-27 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 3/27/23 10:53, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-business wrote: I don't think it would be possible for me to earn Radiance faster than the Radiance treadmill pushes me back, so earning Radiance feels empty to me. I suggest an alternative way to play. I submit the following Proposal: Title:

DIS: Re: BUS: Sacrilege

2023-03-27 Thread Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion
man. 27. mar. 2023 kl. 10:16 skrev Janet Cobb via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org>: > On 3/27/23 12:33, Forest Sweeney via agora-business wrote: > > man. 27. mar. 2023 kl. 08:14 skrev Janet Cobb via agora-business < > > agora-busin...@agoranomic.org>: > > > >> I CoE on each

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal Submission - Asceticism

2023-03-27 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
This Proposal wouldn't remove the ability to do so to those who would like to play that way. So, you could still do that if you want. On Monday, March 27, 2023, Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > man. 27. mar. 2023 kl. 08:53 skrev Yachay Wayllukuq

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal Submission - Asceticism

2023-03-27 Thread Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion
man. 27. mar. 2023 kl. 08:53 skrev Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org>: > I don't think it would be possible for me to earn Radiance faster than the > Radiance treadmill pushes me back, so earning Radiance feels empty to me. I > suggest an alternative way to play.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Rulekeepor] ACORN - March 2023

2023-03-27 Thread Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion
man. 27. mar. 2023 kl. 08:13 skrev Janet Cobb via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org>: > On 3/27/23 10:30, Forest Sweeney wrote: > > søn. 26. mar. 2023 kl. 13:51 skrev Janet Cobb via agora-official > > : > > > > THE AGORA NOMIC CODE OF REGULATIONS > > > > These ACORNs are also

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Promotor/Proposal)

2023-03-27 Thread Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion
søn. 26. mar. 2023 kl. 16:42 skrev secretsnail9 via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org>: > I suggest withdrawing this proposal. > You get 10 dollaries when the race starts, not 20. 10 would be a more > reasonable number. Otherwise new players would just have a decided > advantage,

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Promotor/Proposal)

2023-03-26 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 3/26/23 13:09, Forest Sweeney via agora-business wrote: (I remember joining in the middle of a race and decided not to play for this race, which... is still the current race. I also would like everyone to consider repealing racing in general, as I don't see many players taking weekly race

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Horsened] The Horses Rundown (26 Mar 2023)

2023-03-26 Thread secretsnail9 via agora-discussion
On Sun, Mar 26, 2023 at 7:00 PM ais523 via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Mon, 2023-03-27 at 00:59 +0100, ais523 wrote: > > On Sun, 2023-03-26 at 18:52 -0500, secretsnail9 via agora-official > > wrote: > > > The Horsened's Weekly Report > > > The Horses Rundown > > >

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Promotor/Proposal)

2023-03-26 Thread secretsnail9 via agora-discussion
I suggest withdrawing this proposal. You get 10 dollaries when the race starts, not 20. 10 would be a more reasonable number. Otherwise new players would just have a decided advantage, enough to practically secure a win. And if they joined, then the race started anew, and then they got a welcome

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Promotor/Proposal)

2023-03-26 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
I'd be in favor of repealing horses. On Sunday, March 26, 2023, Forest Sweeney via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I submit the following proposal: > { > Title: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ > Adoption Index: 1.0 > Author: 4st > Co-author: > > Uh oh, gotta submit something! > Gotta get

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Registrar) Some Deactivation intents

2023-03-24 Thread juan via agora-discussion
secretsnail9 via agora-business [2023-03-23 03:38]: > Also, for the Registrar: the latest report says 16/17 active players, it > should probably say 17/18 if it means active player / total players. These > intents could potentially reduce it to 11/18, for those that are interested. Thank you.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Distributor/Proposal) Agorachess V2

2023-03-23 Thread Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion
Some context on why it was drafted this way: We're aware of players teaming up. We intentionally set it up "slow": 5 players playing is 20 weeks of play for 50 moves, however we thought it likely players will team before then. It is an experiment, so we took wins out of the equation. I do agree

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Distributor/Proposal) Agorachess V2

2023-03-22 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
I'm very excited about new kinds of gameplay, especially in the vein that you seem to be going for. Some things I have doubts about: - I'm not sure about regular-sized chess, because of how long the games could be. Maybe a miniature version of chess? Or something else with short games? - It seems

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Distributor/Proposal) Agorachess V2

2023-03-22 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 3/22/23 13:39, Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion wrote: Besides changing score to radiance, I'm unsure of the scoring/gameplay of this, and would like some feedback. I am still interested in officerless gameplay, and this, along with ritual numbers, is good testing ground I believe... Plus,

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Distributor/Proposal) Agorachess V2

2023-03-22 Thread Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion
søn. 5. feb. 2023 kl. 09:11 skrev Forest Sweeney via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org>: > I submit the following proposal: > { > Title: Agorachess V2 > Adoption Index: 1.0 > Author: 4st > Coauthor: Janet, nix, snail, G., Murphy > > Enact "Agorachess Definition" with Power=1.0 and

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Promotor/Proposal) What does this button do?

2023-03-21 Thread Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion
tir. 21. mar. 2023 kl. 08:00 skrev Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org>: > ... > > That’s actually covered by R2603 which kicks in if the switch has neither > an associated officer nor the explicit word “untracked”. I think the only > question is whether it makes

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Misc Game Actions (@Stonemason @Dreamkeepor)

2023-03-21 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 3/21/23 11:26, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion wrote: I was just imitating others doing similarly because it seemed good to do, I didn't have in mind when they'd take effect. They're definitely good ideas to do. The reach is actually a good thing, you want the earliest reach. You'll

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Misc Game Actions (@Stonemason @Dreamkeepor)

2023-03-21 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
It's alright, but thanks though. I was just imitating others doing similarly because it seemed good to do, I didn't have in mind when they'd take effect. On Tuesday, March 21, 2023, nix via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 3/19/23 20:57, Yachay Wayllukuq via

DIS: Re: BUS: Misc Game Actions (@Stonemason @Dreamkeepor)

2023-03-21 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 3/19/23 20:57, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-business wrote: I dream of Wealth I reach for the Radiance Stone Just want to clarify real quick that these happened on Monday in UTC, not Sunday, so they impact next week. Not sure which was your goal. -- nix Prime Minister, Herald, Collector

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Promotor/Proposal) What does this button do?

2023-03-21 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 7:48 AM Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > man. 20. mar. 2023 kl. 15:44 skrev ais523 via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org>: > > > On Mon, 2023-03-20 at 15:18 -0700, Forest Sweeney via agora-business > wrote:

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Promotor/Proposal) What does this button do?

2023-03-21 Thread Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion
man. 20. mar. 2023 kl. 15:44 skrev ais523 via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org>: > On Mon, 2023-03-20 at 15:18 -0700, Forest Sweeney via agora-business wrote: > > Enact the following rule: > > { > > A device is an asset defined by the rules. > > Devices are tracked by the Mad

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