My brother was driving through Asbury Park today and called me to report that
workers are taking down the band shell roof on the 5th Ave Pavillion. Anyone
have an idea what is going on? Perhaps this will be a venue for Bamboozle and
they are going to be restoring it???
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arhythmick arhythmick@ wrote:
It's great that you are here but I do have a question. why do you use a
flat track instead of the banked tracks that i remember seeing on TV as a
kid?
Thanks...and good luck in your opener!
--- In AsburyPark
It's great that you are here but I do have a question. why do you use a flat
track instead of the banked tracks that i remember seeing on TV as a kid?
Thanks...and good luck in your opener!
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, allison salenetri allisonsalenetri@...
wrote:
Many of you probably
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It seems to be at least part of the objective of taking iStar to court was
to get their attention, and get them moving. the city claimed there were
developers ready, willing and able to move forward right now...that those
developers approached the city
It seems to be at least part of the objective of taking iStar to court was to
get their attention, and get them moving. the city claimed there were
developers ready, willing and able to move forward right now...that those
developers approached the city directly. perhaps, this action will get
I wonder if any of these new potential sub-developrs are the same ones who are
very active right now on Cookman Ave...liike Carter-Sackman and others...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Vinnie Tripodi tripvin@... wrote:
Thanks, that's really helpful. It's going be interesting to hear
:
Arhythmick¹s assessment below of the rights/responsibilities for the
Waterfront Redevelopment Area are fairly spot on. Many people have made the
mistake in assuming that Madison Marquette became a ³redeveloper² on par
(legally) with Asbury Partners. This is not the case. Prior to their
purchase
I have been trying to follow this as well. Here is my best guess of what is
going on. I am not sure of all the legal relationships (joint ventures, etc)
but here goes...
Some time ago a group called Asbury Partners obtained the development rights
for the waterfront area from the town of Asbury
in the heating plant,
etc. Gotta believe entertainment is great for MM...people come for a Saturday
night show gotta eat and drink and maybe even shop before and after it...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakd...@... wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arhythmick arhythmick
Summer of 2010
-Retail sales up 70% over 2009
-Restaurant sales up 30% over 2009
-Beach badge sales up 200% over 2009
-Madison Marquette currently reviewing 47 different businesses/business plans
who want to move into the boardwalk pavillion spaces for next summer. Most
willing to pay the
I live in North Jersey in a nice, suburban town with fine neighbors and
good schools and programs for my kids. On the weekends though I am
BORED out of my mind with the same suburban tedium. So I bought a condo
in Asbury Park mostly, I thought, so the kids could enjoy the ocean in
the summer.
I don't understand how you can be 100% against Justifiedright on this
topic. Justifiedright supported SUFA (and gave them money) to oppose
the shelter. You agree with him on that.
The only thing justified said as far as I can see is that people should
be careful how they voice their support of
Britt Savage I believe...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Her name was Brett can't remember her last name
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From: Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:50:42
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I agree completely.
Back in the day Asbury park was THE place to go because it offered the
ammenities that people wanted at the time. Today Asbury Park should
recapture its position as THE place to go because it offers the
ammenities people want today.
Some of those ammenities will be
Didn't he once own the Berkeley Carteret Hotel?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Who knows why?
No beers for Oak or Apoojo because I know they already know.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23018484
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Attached to the Press release are some visual images...on the page
labeled Master Plan there is a layout of the waterfront that looks
different than the layout that was on MM's web site last year.
Specifically, there used to be a condo development (Paramount's Phase
II) that was on the ocean one
Interesting article in this week's Tri City News...the basic premise
being that the Esperanza stoppage gives leverage to Madison Marquette in
any effort they may make to buy out Asbury Partners...
Hope they are correct on that.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
We have heard for a while that MM wanted more than just the
retail...that they were angling for a piece of the condo action...is
this their chance to get it?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 dsher4@ wrote:
2
The show was awesome...hopefully the first of many great acts to come.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, theshortsalepro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I understand there will be a performance in the Paramount tonite.
Is the heat working?
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I think the second floor of HoJo's is simply the set for the Hillary
Duff movie...temporary
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arcman210 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
The second floor of HoJos looks like its done or near done, as there
are now curtains and light fixtures in place.
Yahoo!
Perhaps, although I hear they now want to delay the 2nd floor of HoJo's
in favor of fixing up the other pavillions first...I guess we will see
maybe they did
some permanent work to fix it up inside though? (ie lights, paint job,
floors, etc)
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I was originally very excited about the prospect of this
restaurant...good food, casual atmosphere, great location. I was even
there on opening night. But recently there has been a tail off in
appeal... limited menu selections (even with their new chef ) gets a bit
boring and $100 dinners and
Reverend Brown,
I am a Christian and I do not believe one word of what you wrote. But
here is what really puzzles me.
Even if you are correct (which you are not), frankly, why does it even
matter? As Christians we are taught to love everyone, even sinners.
You are a sinner Reverend Brown and
I har they are moving Confetti's into that little building to make way
for bigger and better things in the pavillion...
Here's something that could be done in less then a day:
1. remove the little booth for th 2nd ave mini golf. More work has
been put into ssaving that then the 5th ave
Anyone ever figure out who it is?
.. oh the pavilion was sold 2 weeks
ago and not to the berkley, suppose to be a secret , there are no
secrets in asbury park , hint the new owner will be from north of
asbury, good luck guessing im betting oak knows.
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Someone noted on this board that the pavillion had been getting cleaned
out last week with workers on the second floor and dumpsters brought in.
One of the boardwalk vendors told me that he heard that Madison
Marquette was getting it ready to show to potential retailers (although
the Berkeley
Why does the Berkley have the first right to refuse the buildings
future? If i read that right.
Perhaps i used the wrong language...What I heard is that a while ago
the Berkely Carteret Hotel had a walkway across Ocean Ave connected to
this Pavillion and they used it as a Spa.
Since MM is
The Berkeley does have a pool on the corner 6th Ave and
Ocean...although the rumor I heard included putting a new pool in that
pavillion along with the spa...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote:
Anyone know why the Guitarbeque was canceled in AP this year??
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I completely agree with this statement. Although I am not someone who
has too much history with Asbury park from the past, what is drawing me
here is not the buildings or even the history... it is the people. The
people who I have met here are dynamic, passionate, interesting and fun!
You have
Developer to talk at chamber lunch
ASBURY PARK: Gary Mottola, managing director and head of investments for
Madison Marquette, will discuss the city's waterfront redevelopment at
an Asbury Park Chamber of Commerce business luncheon from noon to 2 p.m.
May 17, at Taka, 632 Mattison Ave.
Madison
I visited the Esperanza sales center this past weekend. The sales lady
said they had sold 30 in the first 3 weeks. Not bad if true.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- and read this part
It was artificial demand, Goodkin said, adding that condos in
Lighten up Francis is from the comedy movie Stripes with Bill Murray.
One of the new recruits (Francis) insists that everyone refer to him as
Psycho...any of you guys call me Francis...and I'll kill you
Next line from the Sarge...Lighten up Francis.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
They are talking about it. Like I said before, AP is like sex in
middle age, you talk bout it more than doing it. I would like to see
eminent domain for a real public use, a new roadway widening from GSP
down Asbury Ave to
...if only that could/would happen!
A good way for him to used up his 1031 from 200 5th would be to have
bought out Partners and do the whole thing.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arhythmick arhythmick@ wrote
I heard a rumor a while back that the Chetrit Bros were going to
re-establish the bridge from the BCH to the pavillion...
We'll see
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I like the 5th ave pavillion, behind the Berkley Hotel the most
(closly following with the
They are the new owners of the Berkeley Carteret Hotel...I had heard
that their vision was to recreate that bridge. Not sure how they would
do it unless they got agreement from Asbury partners...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I heard a rumor a while
It seems to me that our best hope of modifying the plan to include
some form of music based tourism is for Madison Marquette to figure it
out and apply pressure to modify the plan...anyone know if Madison
Marquette has done any local market research as part of their due
diligence? Is it too late
There is no retail planned for NorthBeach...no bar or restaurant either.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
the wont tear down the stone pony. im almost 100 percent sure of it.
they claimed they never would. all the recent radio promotions claim
the
Justified,
We don't know each other...I come on this board mostly to get info on
redevelopment. When doing that, one cannot help but run into the side
debates that go on. I guess I am the definition of the casual
observer you refer to in your post. If so, I can tell you that your
logic is
Jim,
I am in the same exact situation as you are. I have been gathering
information on Asbury Park from various sources for the past 2 years. I
would highly suggest coming down on a First Saturday to have dinner and
walk down Cookman Ave. You will see and meet very many wonderful and
friendly
Jim,
I am in the same exact situation as you are. I have been gathering
information on Asbury Park from various sources for the past 2 years. I
would highly suggest coming down on a First Saturday to have dinner and
walk down Cookman Ave. You will see and meet very many wonderful and
friendly
signed?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arhythmick arhythmick@ wrote:
Are you sure you read the Coaster article correctly?
I thought the October timing referred to the Casino not the 5th ave
Pavillion
I am hoping that once MM signs the deal and gets full control over the
waterfront retail, they will see the value in restoring these buildings
quickly in order to get their tenants in quickly and start making
money...
But, when...when...when...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple
if they are going to make the investments which I have heard is
up to $150M. Of course the goal is for them to start making
money...what else would it be?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arhythmick arhythmick@ wrote:
I am
Are you sure you read the Coaster article correctly?
I thought the October timing referred to the Casino not the 5th ave
Pavillion...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson nnjallans1@
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I see your
State, federal authorities round up suspected Bloods gang members By
ANGELA DELLI SANTI Associated Press Writer February 1, 2007, 12:48 PM
EST
TRENTON, N.J. -- State and federal agents rounded up 20 members of the
Bloods street gang in a series of raids Thursday that began before dawn
and
Work Continues on Asbury Park Beachfront Plan
http://thecoaster.net/wordpress/?p=1067
By ELLEN CARROLL
A plan for Asbury Park's landmark Fifth Avenue Pavilion on the
boardwalk, which includes the former Howard Johnson's restaurant, is
95 per cent complete, said Larry Fishman, chief operating
How about finding a private person to open the park as a business with
members paying dues or some kind of fee. There is certainly plenty of
empty lots that could be found...as an add-on business idea how about
someone opening a kennel? I know for a fact that NorthBeach (and I
presume the other
, but no closings until the unit can be delivered.
Why are you asking about North Beach resales?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arhythmick arhythmick@
wrote:
I'ld like to know what unit at North Beach sold originally for
$1.5M
and is now reselling for $1.1M?
Also, that unit you refer
Werner,
Based on your understanding of not wanting to attract people why do
you suppose there were several hotels included in the design?
Thanks
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Fred, You are incorrect in your assumptions as to what
the 'planned'
Werner,
Based on your understanding of not wanting to attract people why do
you suppose there were several hotels included in the design?
Thanks
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Fred, You are incorrect in your assumptions as to what
the 'planned'
This drawing suggests a free beach as I do not see any railings
separating the boardwalk form the beach...
Thoughts?
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This email message is a notification to let you know that
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No true believer in God should ever be afraid of science. It will never
disprove God's existence . In fact, many scientists are moving in the
other direction...I point you to Paul Davies' book The Mind of God for
anyone interested in the discussion of the science-religion interface...
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I heard that Madison Marquette was at the council meeting where
Partners presented their HOJO plan...albeit in cognito. Can anyone
confirm???
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson nnjallans1@
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We
Does anyone know when Madison-Marquette is going to announce its
retail proposal to the city? Hasn't it been about 6 months which is
what they said they needed?
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I completely agree with the comment that Roller Derby would fit in
with Asbury Park becasue it is funky. I think that is exactly the
kind of thing that AP should be looking for. While I have never been
to a match, I sure would try it. Back to basketball, it seems like
several teams in the
It seems to me many people on this board have already expressed that it
doesn't make sense. I for one just don't read anything from him
anymore. Don't let it distract you either.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Does any of this make sense to
WH CARES Really, give it a rest.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In reference to Tommy's charge of my stalking him:
Nice of you to leave out all the rest of the email you sent me. I
guess you were afraid to make yourself look like a stalker if
Personally, I have enjoyed your posts and have been able to evaluate
them without reference to politics (since they are not political posts).
I have found your points of view and those of the people who have
responded to you to be be both interesting and informative. As someone
who is trying to
You certainly sound very knowlegeable on Asbury park's history. How
does one find out about your seminars? I would like to one day attend.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Ok Werner, you say I'm not a City Historian. Let's talk about that.
First
I agree about the smaller infractions but what in the world is Asbury
Park doing or going to do about the violent crime in the city? It seems
that the residents just take it in stride or are getting immune to it
(hope not!)...but are people from outside Asbury going to buy these new
condos
the other
day, while it was around 55 degrees out. Plus, there was nobody
inside. Seems like a big waste of energy to me.
Jack
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arhythmick arhythmick@ wrote:
I agree about the smaller infractions but what in the world is
Asbury
Park doing or going to do
Wow. I don't get the blank stares...How do they think the developers
are going to sell $1M condos when people are shooting guns into the air
4 blocks away??? Paramount should be all over the council for that...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I went the
My original question was whether we needed to wait for the tax dollars
from the new condos to start coming in before there was enough money to
pay for more police to lower the crime in town. It sounds like there
already is enough money...it is just being wasted.
So, is the council doing
gets wiped out when someone shoots off a
gun or gets raped! I still can't believe that the builders are not
putting more pressure on the city to clean up the violence.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arhythmick arhythmick
Many of the vacant buildings on the east side already belong to
Fishman or subdevelopers. Some others face eminent domain. If you
let DePetro finish the Jersey he'd start tomorrow. The same with
Fasano and the 4th Ave block.
Why can't DePetro and Fasano make deals with Asbury Partners
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arhythmick arhythmick@
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Why can't DePetro and Fasano make deals with Asbury Partners to
develop
like Paramount, Metro and Westminster did?
Depetro, Fasano, etc, do
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arhythmick arhythmick@
wrote:
Why can't DePetro and Fasano make deals with Asbury Partners to
develop
like Paramount, Metro and Westminster did?
Depetro, Fasano, etc, do
Aren't there attractive nuisance laws about how property must be
maintained when children could be involved?
From an on-line legal site, (note that construction sites are
specifically mentioned): An attractive nuisance is a potentially
harmful object so inviting or interesting to a child that
Aren't there attractive nuisance laws that dictate how property
must be maintained when children might be involved?
I found this explanation at an on-line legal site (note the specific
reference to construction sites)
An attractive nuisance is a potentially harmful object so inviting
or
I guess the question is (since we are where we are) what is the best
path forward. I keep thinking there has to be a way to make it in APs
best interests to get this redevelopment going quicker.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Skip Bernstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So is Asbury Partners
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