[AsburyPark] Re: The Defacing of Asbury Park

2013-01-08 Thread sandpiper15
Your post, and this obituary from today's Times, makes one wonder what Ms. Huxtable might have written about the subject: http://tinyurl.com/afabwx5 A few gems: At a time when architects were still in thrall to blank-slate urban renewal, Ms. Huxtable championed preservation — not because

[AsburyPark] Re: Another lost opportunity for AP - Bruce exhibit at RnR HOF

2009-01-16 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hing...@... wrote: We have a dedicated core of new musicians here, but we only have a disjointed and tiny group of clubs for them to work in, and to attact big names to. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jennifer jennifern...@... wrote:

[AsburyPark] Re: Another lost opportunity for AP - Bruce exhibit at RnR HOF

2009-01-16 Thread sandpiper15
I'll post this again: http://nicoleatkinsblog.blogspot.com/2008/12/sweet-home-new- orleans.html Thoughts? You work at the Saint. What IS the music scene like there in town now? Is there a way for the musicians and club owners to work together to nurture a scene, independent from government or

[AsburyPark] Re: Another lost opportunity for AP - Bruce exhibit at RnR HOF

2009-01-15 Thread sandpiper15
Your points in the second half of your post are valid, but I'm not sure I see a connection between those points and the city blowing anything in the context of the Hall of Fame exhibit. If you look at the Hall's Web site, there is no announcement. And the Associated Press article was

[AsburyPark] Re: Why was a dumpster buried at the Met hotel site?

2009-01-15 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hing...@... wrote: They live right next door in the tower, and both said they saw it happen. If this was something illegal, how could it happen without being noticed by anybody from the city? Well, at least two people saw it, apparently.

[AsburyPark] Re: Another lost opportunity for AP - Bruce exhibit at RnR HOF

2009-01-15 Thread sandpiper15
that AP is completely ignoring the concept of music tourism as it relates to Bruce and the rich musical heritage that pretty much put the city on the world map for many people. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sandpiper15 sandpiper15@ wrote: Your points in the second half of your

[AsburyPark] Re: Bad Design Explained

2008-12-16 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hing...@... wrote: And, I'm beginning to wonder if anybody in this cities administration is going to take MM to task about their elimination of the band shell. What a huge waste in my opinion. If the administration doesn't take MM to task, it

[AsburyPark] Re: Weekend Photos

2008-12-09 Thread sandpiper15
Thanks again for your illustrative photography Glenn. Your comment regarding the carousel horses is spot on. Talk about salt on an open wound. Those lights on the heating plant remind me of the ones on the Yankee Clipper, the late, lamented seafood house next to the lighthouse in Sea Girt.

[AsburyPark] Re: Thick-Skinned in Asbury Park?

2008-12-04 Thread sandpiper15
Mario, Neither Cohen nor Springsteen ever refer to Asbury Park as a town of losers. Obviously he's referring to the lyric from Thunder Road, which never specifies a particular town. (though given its references to dusty beach roads and windblown hair [hard to imagine on snail paced Ocean

[AsburyPark] Re: Just Waded Through...

2008-11-19 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: List what you'd like to see Won't happen, but since the question was unconditional, a new Casino. As bad as the unfinished condos and construction sites look, most of them are inland. You see a construction site

[AsburyPark] Re: Top 10 Ugliest Buildings In The World

2008-11-17 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been a great supporter of the current Redevelopment Plan, and still am. But if you asked me what one thing I would change if they let me, it would be the decision to save the Casino. Save it is a misnomer

[AsburyPark] Re: The Race Question At Asbury Park

2008-10-28 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This evening the colored people denounced the hot-headed persons who talked of holding the indignation meeting. After conferring together, the leaders of the colored people decided that Mr. Bradley's action was

[AsburyPark] Re: OMG - WTF - Again !

2008-10-26 Thread sandpiper15
, sandpiper15 sandpiper15@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ wrote: So who are you quoting and what do I have to do with it? I was just talking about this thread: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/39188

[AsburyPark] Re: OMG - WTF - Again !

2008-10-24 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Definitely NOT - The only writing we will do is adversarial, So it'll be a two volume series! ;) , Bradley installed signs on the beachfront (his property) asking that employees of the hotels refrain from taking up all

[AsburyPark] Re: OMG - WTF - Again !

2008-10-23 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So who are you quoting and what do I have to do with it? I was just talking about this thread: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/39188 Yahoo! Groups Links * To

[AsburyPark] Re: OMG - WTF - Again !

2008-10-23 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sandpiper15 sandpiper15@ wrote: False dichotomoy. Myths can have great meaning. True, but the Tillie one doesn't. It all depends on your perspective I guess. You said

[AsburyPark] Re: OMG - WTF - Again !

2008-10-23 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe Werner and I should write a book together. Definitely. Thank you for the detailed perspective, ALSO left off the postcards. If the past is prologue, it's worth looking at any area's history to figure out

[AsburyPark] Re: OMG - WTF - Again !

2008-10-22 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's why the Save Tillie people's mouths would drop when they would encounter locals who said we should get rid of the ugly old cartoon. They mythologized it, we knew it wasn't meaningful. False dichotomoy.

[AsburyPark] Re: OMG - WTF - Again !

2008-10-22 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i am a little obsessed with thinking of asbury as a place created with spiritual intentions. bradley moving beyond what he knew to create a place of spirit which simply opened up another set of human issues to deal

[AsburyPark] Re: OMG - WTF - Again !

2008-10-20 Thread sandpiper15
what is hanging in my mind is this idea of the promise that sandpiper pointed out to me, and my own lack of understanding about how people have mythologized this place, expect so many things from it etc. Well that's exactly it. Among outsiders, those who remember Asbury's glory days and

[AsburyPark] Re: Students' Insights on AP and Holmdel Schools

2008-10-17 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about adding in an important piece: my mother worked in the school and my father was a truck driver... ( I think she said that) She had two parents in the house or so she implied and both appear to have been

[AsburyPark] Re: OMG - WTF - Again !

2008-10-17 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i find this need to see asbury as some sort of iconic town living up to its past interesting. I think Dan Wolf nails it pretty well here. Read the first four pages:

[AsburyPark] Re: Students' Insights on AP and Holmdel Schools

2008-10-17 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Waiting for the smoke to clear in the economy. My idea, which brought up to the city (and will work on it) for the city hall site envisions getting an office developer to build a large building CONNECTED to a new transit

[AsburyPark] Re: Students' Insights on AP and Holmdel Schools

2008-10-17 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I really mean is that you would not have to walk over tracks or in inclement weather. Oh, okay. Like the underground walkway at Long Branch? That makes sense.

[AsburyPark] Re: OMG - WTF - Again !

2008-10-14 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MM is getting away with it because nobody is putting pressure on them to explain what happened. That seems to be the common thread in many different frustrations and controversies. So whose responsibility is it to call

[AsburyPark] Re: OMG - WTF - Again !

2008-10-14 Thread sandpiper15
: The city council, but it feels like they are under the MM spell. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sandpiper15 sandpiper15@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: MM is getting away with it because nobody is putting pressure

[AsburyPark] Re: OMG - WTF - Again !

2008-10-11 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If its been slow due to shady dealings thats one thing. But if its simply red tape, financial situations, permits unplanned for I can understand that. Maybe it WAS shady dealings. Secret deals with coffee truck

[AsburyPark] Re: On Asbury....

2008-10-11 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The oldest and most significant historic element of Asbury Park is the City plan. The design and layout of the streets and public spaces form the framework, the defining character and feel, of the City. Open spaces, view

[AsburyPark] Re: On Asbury....

2008-10-08 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My view as an outsider, a first-time visitor this past summer, with no previous knowledge of AP or its past/present (I usually go to South Jersey beaches): You needed something to fill in the blank spaces between buildings

[AsburyPark] Re: On Asbury....

2008-10-08 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't forget, real estate investment funds are one of the WORST perfomring sectors of the market I know. Again, the customers are there, but you just can't get the capital. It's like the whole

[AsburyPark] Re: That Other Election

2008-10-07 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, you don't know! In the 256 apartment dwelling I live in, many of the dyed in the wool Asbury Park residents have served either as council or some governing board, so your biased thinkig that renters or apartment

[AsburyPark] Re: Wesley Lake Railings

2008-10-07 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arcman210 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: New topic... Asbury related. Wesley Lake railings. They're in. Hopefully they open the area for people to use. They put in similar railings (or maybe even the same exact kind) to the ones along the Hudson River in

[AsburyPark] Re: On Asbury....

2008-10-07 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i never got the problem with the containers...it was a cheap and creative way to quickly put up income generating space and gave people an opportunity to have a small biz. you need to have cash coming in no? i doubt

[AsburyPark] Re: That Other Election

2008-10-06 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre I can only think of two councilmembers from the Southwest side of Asbury Park in my lifetime. That's whey Asbury Park needs to go to a ward system, to allow one councilmember from each

[AsburyPark] Re: Taking advantage of new outlets???

2008-10-06 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arcman210 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... complete disregard for anything Asbury. http://www.premiumoutlets.com/outlets/attractions.asp?id=78 Actually, complete disregard for anything Monmouth County. Under Attractions, they've got only the Basie, Allaire and

[AsburyPark] Re: That Other Election

2008-10-06 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since Asbury has had demographic regions since its inception more than a century ago, there is no quick fix to integrating it now. No indeed. I'm just wondering aloud if a ward system would bring the slow trickle of

[AsburyPark] Re: That Other Election

2008-10-06 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sandpiper15 sandpiper15@ wrote: There's a middle class in Rumson??? ;) Go to a bar called Murphy's Suds Sawdust in Rumson. Look around and you will see you

[AsburyPark] Re: Shut Up and Sing

2008-10-06 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arcman210 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I paid to go see him perform his music, not lecture me on how to vote. You can still wield the power of the purse, no? If you know going in that there's a good chance Bruce might spend a significant portion of the show

[AsburyPark] Re: Berkley (Carteret) Hotel

2008-10-04 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arcman210 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@ wrote: The reviews at tripadvisor are not good. My experience dealing with the staff is not good. A shame since it could be a 1st class, classy place.

[AsburyPark] Re: 85% of Violence Crime Centered in 14 NJ Cities

2008-10-04 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, radio881gal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In addressing drug violence and open air drug markets at yesterday's press conference, State Attorney General Anne Milgram said law enforcement tracking analysis shows that 85% of violent crime is concentrated in

[AsburyPark] The Kinmouth/Savoy

2008-10-04 Thread sandpiper15
What's up with this place? Is the owner doing anything with it? Does the city have any interest in encouraging someone to do something with it? Seems like a perfect home for one of the new theater companies in the area, and much more amenable to a winter performance than a carousel house.

[AsburyPark] Re: Full Rolling Stone Story

2008-09-30 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If Russia ever came across the Straights, the Alaskan Guard would be the America's first line of defense. Thanks for being diligent, Baracuda. Some of us appreciate it. Well, part of the first line:

[AsburyPark] Re: The Virginia Plan

2008-09-29 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Relocation assistance is only required if the relocation is due to a governmental act - in this case eminent domain condemnation or due to the building being declared unfit for habitation by code officials. Absent that

[AsburyPark] Re: What a strange place

2008-09-28 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, New Beetoap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A suggestion is made to demolish a building because 'bad people' are there - leading to name calling when someone says the idea should really be thought out more. (its not the buildings fault) With in all that, however,

[AsburyPark] Re: APP: Security Cameras

2008-09-28 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hopefully, they'll catch the ones who bring the drugs into our community. Or, conversely, maybe they'll catch the customers coming in from the rest of the county. Illicit or not, narcotics are a commodity. There's no

[AsburyPark] Re: The Virginia Plan

2008-09-28 Thread sandpiper15
Another perfectly lucid post. This is good. So, to arcman's point about it being worthwhile to rehabilitate the Virginia only if you could raise the rents to market rate (I'm presuming from his post that they're not at the moment, but I don't honestly know), would you advocate returning that

[AsburyPark] Re: What a strange place

2008-09-28 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and yes i know there are lots of lucid exchanges sandpiper, but you must admit that something that strays too much from the comfort zone is attacked... No argument there. I was just trying to steer things back to the

[AsburyPark] Re: Fwd: article in The Coaster: north end development

2008-09-26 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 1700 block of Ocean Avenue would be renamed North Ocean Avenue. I didn't even pick up on this before. Is there a reason for the name change? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on

[AsburyPark] Re: PodCasts and Reports on 9/17/08 Council Meeting

2008-09-20 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The WRA always called for a meandering boardwalk and restoration of the dunes. I don;t know how long ago there were dunes. I read somewhere recently the opening from deal lake to the ocean was filled in well before the turn

[AsburyPark] Re: PodCasts and Reports on 9/17/08 Council Meeting

2008-09-19 Thread sandpiper15
Kerry Butch pretty much nails it at 20:58 of tape 9. Question: Why is the boardwalk in front of Asbury Tower curved in that rendering? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your

[AsburyPark] Re: PodCasts and Reports on 9/17/08 Council Meeting

2008-09-19 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, radio881gal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Sandpiper - That's not a boardwalk. It's the dune nature walk that will lie in the sand, unless that design has been changed. I came in late. But my last info was that it would lie in the sand and of course help

[AsburyPark] Re: Fast Lane

2008-09-16 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburyparknet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saw workers tearing off the coming attractions sign and other things off the facade of the Fast Lane today. It was sad and I flashed back to something I saw there during my first tenure as an Asbury resident. The

[AsburyPark] Re: True story about Sunday on the BW.

2008-09-16 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The boardwalk and the pigeons are cursed. Bert would disagree. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoXX9bZrZXw [;)] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups

[AsburyPark] Re: Fast Lane

2008-09-16 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sandpiper15 sandpiper15@ wrote: Fastlane, so what excuse are they using now? A: Shea and Yankee stadium don't work any more either. And there's quite a bit more history or cool

[AsburyPark] Re: Fast Lane

2008-09-16 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really? We should pay homage to a warehouse? You want some nostalgic culture - make a donation to the Crane house. The Electric Factory was a warehouse too. This isn't about nostalgia, it's about developing a

[AsburyPark] Re: Pictures from my Visit this Past Weekend

2008-09-16 Thread sandpiper15
I'm looking at the calendar on the heating plant and am impressed with the acts they've booked. Gym Class Heroes and the Roots will definitely sell out. Danity Kane probably too. Australian Pink Floyd won't, but it should still be crowded. They put on a great show, and their female singer

[AsburyPark] Re: Cover Charges vs. Parking Meters

2008-09-13 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If a bar can charge $10 with food or $12 w.out food as a cover for under 2 hours of music, why is it a sin for a city to charge .50 an hour to park. On top of the cover of course are drinks.food etc... It isn't. It IS,

[AsburyPark] Re: Cover Charges vs. Parking Meters

2008-09-13 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i just don't think asbury needs to kiss ass to get people to come here. provide great food music and a safe beach of course, but it doesn't need to feel like it needs to beg for customers. just give good service.

[AsburyPark] Re: Music City....

2008-09-09 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They all have to park somewhere. Loch Arbour? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings:

[AsburyPark] Re: new to the group and more

2008-09-09 Thread sandpiper15
Great Web site. I just sifted through it briefly and am already carving out the weekend of 10/11 to check out that blues competition at Paul's! You might want to come up with a more geographically specific URL, if only to show up more in Google searches. Maybe not. I'd never heard of it

[AsburyPark] Re: Note to Paul Vail

2008-09-05 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sandpiper said she didn't take it as an attack on the whole of Christianity, just certain brands and she went on to give examples of brands. Certain interpretations. I probably should have said practices. Brands

[AsburyPark] Re: Note to Paul Vail

2008-09-04 Thread sandpiper15
In fairness, there is nothing in the posted article that suggests to me, as a reader, Mr. Vail was fighting against Christianity. Here is the line to which I assume you were referring: The more we looked into it, it was clear this mission's larger aim was not to help poor struggling men,

[AsburyPark] Re: Note to Paul Vail

2008-09-04 Thread sandpiper15
In fairness, there is nothing in the posted article that suggests to me, as a reader, Mr. Vail was fighting against Christianity. Here is the line to which I assume you were referring: The more we looked into it, it was clear this mission's larger aim was not to help poor struggling men,

[AsburyPark] Re: Obama Party in AP....

2008-08-31 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sara Palin = oil, guns and babies. I think you just wrote their new campaign theme! Well, I went home with the Governor The way I always do How was I to know She was with the Russians, too I was gambling in Ohio I

[AsburyPark] Re: Obama Party in AP....

2008-08-31 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sandpiper15 sandpiper15@ wrote: That's pretty funny! Did you write that? Nice job. Send my some more of that (by private email so we don't get banned by Big Brother Pete

[AsburyPark] Re: Why we are Screwed

2008-08-26 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lets have a serious discussion of the economic state of the kingdom instead of how pretty things are and how much better it is from a year ago. Werner Just throwing this out there with the caveat that I haven't

[AsburyPark] Re: Attainable Goal

2008-08-25 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the best $19 ($21) with tip - cosmo and beer and view. Good god!!! How much are cosmos going for these days? Asbury - leave your inhibitions behind Too Vegasy Asbury - be who you want to be What if you want to be a

[AsburyPark] Re: Just visited AP for the first time

2008-08-24 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. I'm new to the list. My family just visited Asbury Park for the first time last weekend, and we liked it. I thought you might like to read my blog entry about the weekend. We showed up knowing nothing about the

[AsburyPark] Re: Complaints? Negativity?

2008-08-23 Thread sandpiper15
Asbury Park's Cavern Club was the Student Prince. Maybe someone should open one that isn't the real Student Prince. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, lightgrw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although they do go to Liverpool to visit the Cavern Club... which isn't the real Cavern Club.

[AsburyPark] Re: Complaints? Negativity?

2008-08-22 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those 49 properties might have already been built or rehabbed or they added on to. Much like the Casino, Carousel House, pavilions, Baronet or Fastlane, no? You just don't draw a pretty picture and then build it. I tried

[AsburyPark] Re: Complaints? Negativity?

2008-08-21 Thread sandpiper15
Good points. Can one really equate Madison Marquette with an individual home builder though? The company has 49 properties and 23 million sq feet of retail space throughout the United States. That's 49 sets of concept plans. 49 sets of meeting after meeting with engineers and architects. 49

[AsburyPark] Re: Misleading info in the brochure....

2008-08-21 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Area attractions: The Stone Poney, The Boardwalk, AND The Asbury Amusement Factory and (get this), the 8th Ave Jetty. (no lie, read it yourself). I was always more impressed with the CH Jetty. Maybe these guys

[AsburyPark] Re: Palace .v. SaveTillie

2008-08-20 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You would not beleive the back-stabbing that went on. Yes I would. Easily. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/

[AsburyPark] Style Rocket: Re: Boardwalk is magic tonight

2008-08-20 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the difference between $184 shorts and $4.25 for a dog, $4.00 for fries and $3.00 for a soda - or $6.00 for a corona?? Five years from now, that Corona will still be in style.

[AsburyPark] Re: Boardwalk is magic tonight

2008-08-19 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Only GOOD people think of things like this. You don't even have to be good to be smart. A cynical and devious entrepreneur could see the capitalist slam-dunk in this. It's called playing chess instead of checkers. I

[AsburyPark] Re: Boardwalk is magic tonight

2008-08-19 Thread sandpiper15
You both have valid points. There is nothing wrong with appealing to a wealthier clientele with one or two stores. (remember the Japanese High Art http://library.duke.edu/digitalcollections/images/eaa/M/M01/M0126/M0126\ -lrg.jpeg store on the boardwalk from 1920?) And spending money locally

[AsburyPark] Re: Boardwalk is magic tonight

2008-08-19 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unbeleivable that it was destroyed and all hail the saving of a concrete block wall with a grinning face. Well, no one would argue that any good came from destroying the Palace. But just to play devil's advocate, the

[AsburyPark] Re: DEP Equivocating on Oceanfront Parking

2008-08-19 Thread sandpiper15
First of all, good for you for following up on this. I have a feeling the bigger fish to fry mindset makes people forget that AP is indeed on the Atlantic Ocean. This stuff matters big time. Second of all... ...However, Hershey made it clear that DEP did not acknowledge that a dune had been

[AsburyPark] Re: So if it's Pizza you want...

2008-08-19 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - wnew concert our second spin on the bw on no pizza - my buddies from attillos supplied me with about 100 pies and over 100 subs- sold out real fast Reminds me of my days at the Domino's on 35 in Wall. Every Saturday

[AsburyPark] Re: Boardwalk is magic tonight

2008-08-18 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ha. Think about it. It's sitting there just being ugly. Make it into a mini golf with a construction theme, or a paintball place. Or, maybe get the artist that did The Gates in NYC to come wrap it in something. Most of

[AsburyPark] Re: Boardwalk is magic tonight

2008-08-18 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would it be too much to ask for just one arcade. Something cool, with old school Skee Ball. Something with a retro design, not modern. There used to be a building at the east end of Wesley Lake that had something like

[AsburyPark] Re: Insult to Injury - Bruce's car goes there

2008-08-15 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, jennanna13 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh boy- Do we really think that a ANOTHER rock and roll museum is needed in Asbury Park? Wouldn't it be cooler to recreate another great time in Asbury Park instead of continuing to live in the past and talk about it

[AsburyPark] Re: Organ - AC .v. AP

2008-08-15 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Asbury Park undoubtedly suffered the same fate... Nothing that eBay http://cgi.ebay.com/Pipe-Organ-Relay-Box-For-6-Ranks-of-Pipes_W0QQitemZ\ 110278362949QQihZ001QQcategoryZ16219QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewIte\ m

[AsburyPark] Re: Insult to Injury - Bruce's car goes there

2008-08-14 Thread sandpiper15
For those of you who dont know what I'm talking about: http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/2351384725/sizes/o/ Good lord. Why don't they just replace the Stone Pony sign with one that says Hunka Bunka and be done with it already? (Come to think of it, that's likely the precise

[AsburyPark] Re: Dylan last night

2008-08-14 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arcman210 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That was my first concert at Convention Hall and it was just a great time. The sound was muffled and echoed a bit, but from what I was told last night by someone from Live Nation, they are going to look into spending

[AsburyPark] Re: Dylan last night

2008-08-14 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are many solutions to cut down on reflections in a space such as CH. The basic principle involves cutting down on parallel surfaces, which CH is full of. All of the upper walls would need acoustic dampeners, and

[AsburyPark] Re: Insult to Injury - Bruce's car goes there

2008-08-13 Thread sandpiper15
Cleveland's role in the commercial growth of the music aside, no one could genuinely argue that any city in the U.S. is more indispensible to Rock and Roll than Memphis - another city desperately in need of an economic shot in the arm. So where do they put the annex? Hollywood East, just six

[AsburyPark] Re: Red Bank Considers ban on Plastic Bags...can Asbury be next?

2008-08-12 Thread sandpiper15
Interesting. On the one hand, towns of all shapes and sizes throughout New Jersey have long been besieged by errant plastic bags. They seem to have a particular affinity for property fences and the brush near creeks and rivers. On the other hand, would banning plastic bags be punishing store

[AsburyPark] Re: This weekend's pictures

2008-07-23 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, njshoregirlap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Re: Shipping containersYour comment describes them well: schlocky and lack of permanence. I did do some research on other cities use of containers as store fronts. NYC has a Japanese retailer who operates

[AsburyPark] Re: This is what a tourist would want ....

2008-07-23 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, New Beetoap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would have been great for my weekend visit if there were lockers someplace. Like in the bus and train stations of nyc. Great idea as a start if showers and changing rooms are not in the plans right now. Give it

[AsburyPark] Re: Behind the Blue Screen at Roadtrip 7

2008-07-23 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Host Hotel was The Berkeley, I assume there were similar taxes collected there. I may have missed this, but was there ever a reason given for lopping off the Carteret? It's sonically akin to chopping off the Chateau

[AsburyPark] Re: This weekend's pictures

2008-07-22 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have uploaded them to Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dapaw Great pics and it's nice to see the beach so crowded. I'm curious how folks feel about that big blue screen that, according to your caption, was put up

[AsburyPark] Re: Help Need with ReVision's productions of HAIR.

2008-07-22 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We were attracted to producing HAIR in the Carousel building because we knew the space would add to our unique vision. Yet another reason to restore the Pryor bandshell. Imagine it...Hamlet at HoJo's!

[AsburyPark] Re: Help Need with ReVision's productions of HAIR.

2008-07-22 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm wondering why this isn't more of an uproar about the current situation with the bandshell. Actually, if you click here http://www.asburyradio.com/audio/PublicComment070208_007.mp3 and FF to 12:18, I think you'll

[AsburyPark] Re: Unique vs. strip mall

2008-07-22 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also wonder why when something unique is planned like having a theatre presentation in the carousel building , nobody mentions it as non-conformist, anti strip mall type thinking. Now i know the retort could be, BECAUSE IT

[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Metal Container Shops

2008-07-20 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, njshoregirlap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am a City Planner by education. I took many classes on Architecture and Urban Design . They dot the vacant spots between the pavillions (which are looking great by the way) As a city planner what are your thoughts on

[AsburyPark] Re: Why AP is coming back.

2008-07-15 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, jandlinap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and noone wants to say that its the people who have in recent years made an investment in buying homes... its those that have gone to the downtown...and made an investment. Actually, both on this board and among

[AsburyPark] Re: Bennies cede valuable Monmouth to SNJ. Hoagie or Sub?

2008-07-15 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mario [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wawa stores dot the South, while North Jersey folks get their caffeine at a 7-11. Proof positive that the dividing line is really 18th Avenue in Belmar. ;) Yahoo! Groups Links * To

[AsburyPark] Re: Hi - Questions

2008-07-15 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --5th ave pav 1979 http://www.asburyboardwalk.com/cards/5th-Ave-1979.gif Three things stand out in that photo. First, the detrioration already evident (above the garage door) on what was then only an 18-year-old building.

[AsburyPark] Re: Hi - Questions

2008-07-15 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the principals of the Plan are regularly violated. Don't you mean supplanted? ;) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

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