[AsburyPark] Re: Weldon could avoid serving time in Texas

2008-01-15 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, curtincarolyn ccstylin@ wrote: You have been sent an online news article from curtincarolyn as a courtesy of app.com. Also today, Judge Walls moved Weldon's surrender date

[AsburyPark] Official Press Release from MM

2008-01-14 Thread wernerapnj
For details: http://conventionhall.net/initiative/index.html Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to:

[AsburyPark] Re: English in Asbury Park

2008-01-12 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like most of your positions, they are too extreme. Smell the coffee brewing. Dan, That comment about me has me wondering and bothered at the same time. Give me

[AsburyPark] Re: English in Asbury Park

2008-01-11 Thread wernerapnj
Just a small deviation from Asbury park to the argument that other countries accommodate English via dual signage etc therefor America should reciprocate for other languages also... Some info found on the web: English is the primary language of more than 400 million people and is the second

[AsburyPark] Re: English in Asbury Park

2008-01-11 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like most of your positions, they are too extreme. Smell the coffee brewing. If you think that a police department in a city that has a large population of specific immigrants should not have someone with proficiency to

[AsburyPark] Re: My donation to AP - Parking Ticket

2008-01-06 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even though I don't think I'm guilty. I'll pay it and not complain. For the benefit of those who do not attend Council Meetings please be aware that

[AsburyPark] Re: from an article in 1999 - NINE years ago.....

2008-01-05 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PS - I flipped my desk around this morning. Figure I'd try something different. Werner, maybe we could turn the statue of Bradley and face him Southwest? Turn him. It might bring good luck.

[AsburyPark] Re: Time to rewrite the lyrics to...

2008-01-05 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, John C. LiDestri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: one other point to add which Werner often points out...the redevelopment plan needs to be redone and more balanced..it seems that the 3,000 condos was not realistic and is also not the best utilization of the

[AsburyPark] Re: any work on the 72 hours?

2008-01-04 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, John C. LiDestri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AP has location, location, location...I don't know enough about the political / asbury partners issue to comment in an informed manner but it is clear that they have mishandled this redevelopment project and I

[AsburyPark] Re: any work on the 72 hours?

2008-01-04 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 100% agreed. However, remember there are no white knights, MM included. There is much many do not know. Never trade one master for another. It is the city that must be the master and the developers the dogs. When you are a

[AsburyPark] Re: any work on the 72 hours?

2008-01-04 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@ wrote: Its not Asbury Partners. The responsibility lays 'squarely' on the City Council. Any blame/praise/etc should be directed there. Which is why

[AsburyPark] Re: Porch

2008-01-04 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: perhaps in 2008 the tri-city news flash will read breaking news, town officials and Werner were seen having a redevelopment planning session on non-other than Werner's Porch. The meeting ended with everyone singing

[AsburyPark] Re: Anybody else complete sick of presidential campaigning?

2008-01-03 Thread wernerapnj
Wasn't a specific group created (by you as I recall) to discuss politics ? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to:

[AsburyPark] Wastewater Treatment

2007-12-28 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Back to AP, and I'm not trying to cry over spilled milk. I'm genuinely curious. Werner - Do you any input about have that crappy sewer building got approval? When? By whom? and is rook right about the potential for

[AsburyPark] Wastewater Treatment Plant

2007-12-28 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Back to AP, and I'm not trying to cry over spilled milk. I'm genuinely curious. Werner - Do you any input about have that crappy sewer building got approval? When? By whom? and is rook right about the potential for

[AsburyPark] Re: Wastewater Treatment Plant

2007-12-28 Thread wernerapnj
Looks like Asbury Partners does not have the cash. NJEIT 2007 Financing Program Borrowers, Loan Amounts and Project Descriptions Clean Water Projects Asbury Park City (Asbury Partners, LLC) - $8,185,700* - Installation of an odor control system and electrical and ventilation system

[AsburyPark] Re: On-topic posts vs off-topic posts

2007-12-28 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Sharon Boone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you the moderator? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rook782 rook782@ wrote: The wizard is still alive. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Pete Walton pete@ wrote: Folks, why don't we call a

[AsburyPark] Re: Little League

2007-12-17 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The whole city has more history. They DO need a city historian. == There are many,many good reasons to have a City Historian. In that capacity I...: - personally witnessed various

[AsburyPark] Re: Time to Fix Some Mistakes

2007-12-11 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The beauty of the Internet and Tech, Our late night thoughts are preserved forever and ever - and easily retrieved to be seen and heard again. == Great observation Oak,

[AsburyPark] Re: Time to Fix Some Mistakes

2007-12-11 Thread wernerapnj
I forgot about this one, another 'keeper'.. A Little Bit of Knowledge is a Dangerous Thing http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/1242 Five years ago. Werner --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great observation Oak, a read through

[AsburyPark] Re: Time to Fix Some Mistakes

2007-12-11 Thread wernerapnj
And 4 years ago... What are the REAL Isues ? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/2784 Werner PS: I'm posting these links so that I don't have to write everything all over again... All the concepts still apply. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

[AsburyPark] When a City Relies on a Myopic Plan....

2007-12-10 Thread wernerapnj
Builder puts Asbury high-rise project on hold By NANCY SHIELDS COASTAL MONMOUTH BUREAU The Hoboken developer building the 224-unit Esperanza high-rise on the city's beachfront says it is temporarily closing down the construction site and sales office. Dean Geibel, president of Metro Homes,

[AsburyPark] Council Meeting at Asbury Tower ?

2007-12-05 Thread wernerapnj
An reports of what happened at the meeting last night? I had heard previously that there was a movement to have the Townhouses, planned for Ocean Ave in front of the Tower, eliminated. Anyone in the group have a report ? Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

[AsburyPark] Re: City Council Meetings Tonight

2007-12-05 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, James Keady james.keady@ wrote: ASBURY PARK CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP SESSION MEETING AGENDA DECEMBER 5, 2007 - 6PM OPEN TO THE PUBLIC III. Special Event Applications Madison

[AsburyPark] Re: City Council Meetings Tonight

2007-12-05 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rook782 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@ wrote: 'There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle

[AsburyPark] Re: City Council Meetings Tonight

2007-12-05 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, lightgrw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Excellent Werner! One of your best! I always talk of Asbury Park with regards to another sci-fi show -- trust no one === Thanks :-) I found this:

[AsburyPark] Re: Fishman in AP

2007-12-04 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My post was about me not them. Just wanted to make the point to certain folks that I knew what I was talking about when I said a bankruptcy trustee's job is to maximize the income, so anyone could have walked in

[AsburyPark] Re: Fishman in AP

2007-12-04 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don;t scratch an old wound. We've moved on. I am not going to crucify people anymore for what happened - I want forward movement, but don't try to make it right.

[AsburyPark] Wonder Bar ?

2007-12-04 Thread wernerapnj
Open ? Closed? Guess we will never know for certain. A listing from the Web. Werner Asbury Park City Guide Doggy Yappy Hour, 5th St., Asbury Park, NJ 07712 Tue Dec 4, 2007 at 5:00PM - Tue Jan 8, 2008 at 5:00PM (732) 502-8886 Venue: The Wonder Bar 5th St., Asbury Park, NJ 07712 Yahoo!

[AsburyPark] Re: Fishman in AP

2007-12-04 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This isn't directed at you Oak, but to some people, several on this board, history is far more sexy if it involves scandal and greed and bad guys. Far too boring if it doesn't; so history gets distorted.

[AsburyPark] Re: Fishman in AP

2007-12-04 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... In the OLD Cab case, it just meandered along. So in that sense, Werner is correct. Doesn't matter now whose right or wrong. Hopefully things will keep moving along the RE market will pop again.

[AsburyPark] Re: Fishman in AP

2007-12-04 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The article I posted yesterday is proof of what I say. I know I won't convince you even with proof before your eyes. === You really are unbelievable,

[AsburyPark] Re: Fishman in AP

2007-12-04 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it did meander along - lost in out of state courts and it wasn't pushed (by the city) as hard as it could of. Some smart and risky moves were made along the way to gain control of the rights. One of those was buying

[AsburyPark] Re: Fishman in AP

2007-12-04 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .. As further support for his discovery, he cites several atta boys from Internet posting friends, which appear to have the force and effect of Federal Case law. Who knew? I'll be citing it all as binding

[AsburyPark] Re: Snynaxis Opening Monday

2007-11-26 Thread wernerapnj
Having watched the re-modeling of that site and kept my opinion to meself, I am curious as to what folks think of the 'new' exterior. Werner --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Dr.Geena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This Monday is the grand opening of Snyaxis formerly Red Fusion. They are a

[AsburyPark] Re: [AsburyParkGLH] Maxie Update

2007-11-21 Thread wernerapnj
That would be Heck AVENUE. Heck Street is in Asbury Park. Werner --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We forgot to mention that the house is on Heck in Neptune, right past the Asbury border, sorry to keep flooding you with emails, we just want her found!! We hope

[AsburyPark] Re: Missing Red English Bulldog. Please keep looking

2007-11-20 Thread wernerapnj
Hi, Thanks for the info. I'm around town all the time, so will keep a look-out. I know how distressing this is, I'm a 'pet person' also (cats for 30 years of my life). If I see her, I'll scoop her up :-) Does the City still have an Animal Patrol? Werner --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,

[AsburyPark] No verdict in Hamilton case

2007-11-20 Thread wernerapnj
No verdict in Hamilton case; deliberations continue tomorrow Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 11/20/07 BY CHARLES WEBSTER IV Post Comment NEWARK — A federal jury tomorrow will continue to deliberate the federal charges of bribery against former Asbury Park City Councilman John J. Hamilton

[AsburyPark] Re: Missing Red English Bulldog. Please keep looking

2007-11-19 Thread wernerapnj
Very Claver ! It would be helpful to also plot Home and the last place the dog was known to be. That way the other points will either make sense of not. Werner PS - Please cut/edit previous posts so as not to redeliver messages. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[AsburyPark] Re: Missing Red English Bulldog. Please keep looking

2007-11-19 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, nferreira2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maxie's starting point was Emory 8th on 11/12. According to the last message I received from Anthony N, she was seen on (Sun 11/18) around 2-3 a.m. around Rollo Plaza and Munroe Ave

[AsburyPark] Re: Missing Red English Bulldog. Please keep looking

2007-11-19 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oops. Forgot the link. Here it is; http://xrl.us/bbeei == Very nice - what makes no sense is that there is no path from 'home'. Is the theory that

[AsburyPark] Re: peace jewelry?

2007-11-15 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, theshortsalepro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know where I may find some peace jewelry in town? New or vintage? I'm looking for a necklace or a broach. Try the pawn shop on Cookman Ave. Werner

[AsburyPark] Re: What $2.5M buys

2007-11-13 Thread wernerapnj
You are just not correct in your assumptions, Perhaps you did not attend the hearings or follow the history of these topics. Werner --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arcman210 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 16 and 12 stories. However, it will be much taller then originally permitted because

[AsburyPark] Fashionably Late ?

2007-11-13 Thread wernerapnj
A ...continuous luxurious vacation. Unlike the continuous nightmare that long time residence have had to put up with since the early 80s. Isn't the declaration of redevelopment at that time and the resulting mess enough evidence that Eminent Domain and Redevelopment are not the answer to urban

[AsburyPark] Re: Fashionably Late ?

2007-11-13 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rawdogalways [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you cant even compare this redevelopment to the last failed one of the eighties. people are actually moving in to these new homes. the boardwalk is once again thriving in the summer, work is being done on convention

[AsburyPark] Re: What $2.5M buys

2007-11-13 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rawdogalways [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is impossible for the footprint to be bigger. the c8 building took up half of ocean ave, the esperanza does not. it is going to be a beautiful addition to asbury park. i feel asbury park starting to breathe again.

[AsburyPark] Re: What $2.5M buys

2007-11-13 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -you need to use 100% lot coverage to obtain 100% usability or for that matter, 200%. OPEN SPACE at street level - open airways, use of glass and natural stone and levels. NYC mandated it (right dan) at least 20 years ago as

[AsburyPark] Re: What $2.5M buys

2007-11-13 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@ wrote: I wrote (Lot Coverage).. The Lot Coverage footprint is larger due to there not being any setbacks from the property lines. It is 100% lot coverage. Lot

[AsburyPark] Re: What $2.5M buys

2007-11-12 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, the PH purchase in the Esperanza WAS NOT Dean Geibel. It was a REAL third party purchaser. = Isn't it just more hype instead of substance? The City

[AsburyPark] Re: What $2.5M buys

2007-11-12 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rook782 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I forget, how many stories is the Esperanza going to be. I know there was a problem with the heights changing. == Its going to be 2 towers like the old

[AsburyPark] What $2.5M buys

2007-11-10 Thread wernerapnj
...in Ocean Grove... http://tinyurl.com/2wqn9t Compare that to an Esperanza penthouse. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings

[AsburyPark] Re: Buy the Coaster read: Main Street as...DL BBQ

2007-11-09 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there is a way to be business friendly and respect everyone's use of their property. it is called planning and zoning. call don sammett. I've been saying that for 6 years

[AsburyPark] Re: Skeptics say Economic Impact Unclear

2007-11-08 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fine4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ditto, my last post! Forgot to mention Oakdorf! Thanks again Oak, for educating me! Werner, these two posts are the AP, my kids were raised with BF, to borrow your acronym! And, for a blast from the past regarding

[AsburyPark] Re: Just a Thought from Outside the Box

2007-11-08 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Werner, I do know that the APHS is working on this as well, and their effort is to repair and preserve the historic lighting. Only one of the old lights is out. There is a newer one near the center of the park that is

[AsburyPark] Re: New planters around Convention hall, and Bradley park side of Ocean ave.

2007-11-08 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, John C. LiDestri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great posts the last 2 days! Not sure if I like the planters as I have not seen them. I will be in AP tommorrow for a meeting and will take a look. I am up in Rochester with the Wegman's guys.we just

[AsburyPark] Re: Library Square Lights Update

2007-11-08 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack and Werner, stay off of those ladders. Recent update from Terry below: I know that they are JCPL lamps.and that JCPL was contacted again yesterdayagain, the district manager was our contactas of

[AsburyPark] Re: Tonight's Special BOE meeting

2007-11-08 Thread wernerapnj
Thanks for the report Frank. What's that acronym ? SOAP -Same Old Asbury Park Werner --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycheech [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tonight's Special BOE meeting could not be held since adequate notice had not been sent to the newspapers of record. Instead,

[AsburyPark] Re: New planters around Convention hall, and Bradley park side of Ocean ave.

2007-11-08 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, John C. LiDestri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: luckily for you a brought back a few jars. Let me know your address and I can UPS you a few jars or if you are around town we can meet up later, I will be done with my meeting around 4 PM. E-mail me offline if

[AsburyPark] Re: Just a Thought from Outside the Box

2007-11-08 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are starting to get a little hysterical about the lights. One step at a time. Let's get them working and then see about have uniform and appropriate lighting for the park.

[AsburyPark] Re: New planters around Convention hall, and Bradley park side of Ocean ave.

2007-11-08 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John, An idea - develop Asbury Park Jam The product line could be endless. Here's the hook - organic and made, not manufactured, by a diverse workforce using a low-carbon footprint Rainbow label of course.

[AsburyPark] Re: Just a Thought from Outside the Box

2007-11-07 Thread wernerapnj
OK Jack, Count me in - I'm an engineer, have test equipment, tools and ladder. Let's go check those lamps out. What's a good time for you? Werner --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd love to fix them ourselves. I have no fear of heights. --- In

[AsburyPark] Re: Stop the Static

2007-11-06 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Despite the improvements to the BW that MM/partners or whoever has made. I am still deeply troubled. I came to this conclusion almost 4 years ago and have tried to dissuade myself. I can't escape it however. Things will not

[AsburyPark] How does BW activity help the bottom line ?

2007-11-06 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Madison Marquette is working hard to bring us a nicer boardwalk. I stand behind their recent efforts, and I'm not going to rush to judge things. == All thats been done is yet more paint jobs and 'temporary'

[AsburyPark] Re: Its not about the Planters

2007-11-06 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Werner, Honestly, how can you expect the 1000 condos to be occupied by now, even if they were all built, considering the way the real estate market is these days? They missed the 'boat'. However NOT having them

[AsburyPark] Re: OK Done - seems like a lost cause

2007-11-06 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice example Werner. That is how a lot of people think when it comes to AP... Or anything in general for that matter. They just want something done.. anything. They don't care if it's right or wrong, just get it done.

[AsburyPark] Re: How does BW activity help the bottom line ?

2007-11-06 Thread wernerapnj
Thank you, I do agree with what you observe, however even MM has been dragging their feet. Perhaps due to problems with the Partners, I don't know. What I do know is that I attended the planning board applications for the 5th Ave Pav. This project is a 'no-brainer' The Plan calls for the Pavilion

[AsburyPark] Re: Stop the Static

2007-11-06 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... And no public restrooms.showers...dumb dumb. == Every Pavilion should have a requirement to provide public rest rooms. Or perhaps every other Pavilion

[AsburyPark] Re: Just a Thought from Outside the Box

2007-11-06 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Could that meeting be the first step to use emminent domain AGAINST the Partners and to allow MM to take it all over by themselves? Just a thought - and a question for all of you to ponder.

[AsburyPark] Re: How does BW activity help the bottom line ?

2007-11-06 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As hard as it is to feel this way, I don't think MM can be saddled with the sins of the past and be forced to play catchup, either by working 5 times faster or by somehow being forced to deal with the shortfall in

[AsburyPark] Re: Skeptics say Economic Impact Unclear

2007-11-06 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mario [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sobering thoughts about the arena. I remember when, a long time ago, AP had all its hopes in one or two baskets (gambling, Jai alai, etc.). Hope we stay on track with a holistic approach as mentioned in this article.

[AsburyPark] Re: New planters around Convention hall, and Bradley park side of Ocean ave.

2007-11-05 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure Bradley Park will be restored with new grass and plants someday soon. The park still needs to be cut down a few feet to match the new sidewalk height... In my opinion this is why the underground sprinkler system

[AsburyPark] Re: New planters around Convention hall, and Bradley park side of Ocean ave.

2007-11-05 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apoojo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if they were not part of the redevelopment agreement, and just placed on public property by a private llc, should they be there? should the planters be summonsed,? who maintains them? who is responsible for law suits?

[AsburyPark] Re: New planters around Convention hall, and Bradley park side of Ocean ave.

2007-11-05 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, John C. LiDestri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MM overstepping their bounds? As far as I can tell they are the guys that are going to give this town a chance for a vibtrant, energetic boardwalk and they have the money to do so.let's rejoice in the fact

[AsburyPark] Re: Gangs of New Jersey

2007-11-05 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gangs Of New Jersey == Interesting article about the event at the beachfront. I took the opportunity to drive around and found that most of the 'gang' were arrogant

[AsburyPark] Re: New planters around Convention hall, and Bradley park side of Ocean ave.

2007-11-05 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Considering that people go to Convention hall (shows and events are scheduled) maybe that is why there is a focus. I gather the impression that some will not be happy unless Asbury Park looks exactly as it did in 1972

[AsburyPark] Re: New planters around Convention hall, and Bradley park side of Ocean ave.

2007-11-05 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The bottom line is the CH is one of the focal points of Asbury Park that people will judge it by.? It looks like crap in the inside now, broken tile floors, cracks on the wall etc.? An attractive and fixed up CH will do alot to the

[AsburyPark] Re: New planters around Convention hall, and Bradley park side of Ocean ave.

2007-11-05 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fine4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: React, what else? I hate to say it, we protest to no end, in this forum, but nothing is ever solved, in our favor. Cynical? Yes! The despair is, we're powerless to get anything done!

[AsburyPark] Re: New planters around Convention hall, and Bradley park side of Ocean ave.

2007-11-05 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... OF COURSE plants in the park would be nice, but do you see any construction activity going on there? Why plant shurbs and trees when the ground they are planted in will soon be leveled down a few feet? The

[AsburyPark] Re: New planters around Convention hall, and Bradley park side of Ocean ave.

2007-11-05 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another inappropriate use of resources and waste of money. Large concrete planters and lots of plants - WHY ??? Let's keep the current cobra head style lamp posts on the boardwalk. Theres no need to update them

[AsburyPark] OK Done - seems like a lost cause

2007-11-05 Thread wernerapnj
The surgeon was trying to explain to the patient the latest in medical technology for the procedure at hand. The use of lasers to minimize the impact on surrounding important organs. Scanners to identify what is really wrong instead on treating the symptoms. Even the design of new parts to be

[AsburyPark] Its not about the Planters

2007-11-05 Thread wernerapnj
It just amazes me that some folks fixate on an issue/object and in the process miss the point entirely. It's not about planters. It's about using available resources to further the goals of the plan instead of making a show of it. People - wake up. There are supposed to be over 1000 occupied,

[AsburyPark] Re: REMOVE ME FROM LIST

2007-11-03 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, carole flot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will need to UNSUBSCRIBE. I am unable at this time to pursue my interest in Asbury Park and am receiving too many message from the group members to my inbox. Thank you.

[AsburyPark] Another Twist on BAD Lighting.

2007-11-02 Thread wernerapnj
Noticed tonight that the small signs along the Ocean Ave sidewalk of ConHall have been lit up. I mean LIT UP to the point of being a distraction and diminishing the natural beauty of the building. I had hoped that good sense would prevail and the simple incandescent lamps in the archways would

[AsburyPark] Re: Salt Water Cafe - is it just me?

2007-11-02 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The place started out good, service got a little spotty. It was packed all summer. I think they may be loosing interest since it is run by Gary Mottola's brother-in-law who has restaurants in Philly. They did it to get it up

[AsburyPark] Re: My thoughts on saving the Stone Pony

2007-11-01 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arcman210 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would love to see that as well... the reason I am providing this solution is because it is the best way to preserve the Stone Pony. If they put a HOF in the Casino, you can bet they'll place a Stone Pony nightclub in

[AsburyPark] Remodeling Asbury Park

2007-11-01 Thread wernerapnj
Just a reminder that I have advocated against Remodeling Asbury Park for years. Two goals in mind - to create economic success and to preserve history for future generations. The current thinking completely conflicts with those goals... - Focus on a year-round residential beachfront - Choking

[AsburyPark] Re: a gift i wish i was giving you

2007-10-29 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, evosap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i hope you saw the moon tonight. cruising around on my bike, i had my camera, no tripod so the photos i took were...well..the photos of an amateur taking photos at night with no tripod. it was stunning. the moon, not the

[AsburyPark] Planning To Fail - Not just Asbury Park

2007-10-27 Thread wernerapnj
Article in todays Press: http://tinyurl.com/3x8hnm A parts that I found relevant: ... One month ago, Belmar severed its relationship with the Gale Co. of Florham Park, up until then the borough's master developer, which had sought to transform

[AsburyPark] Re: THE PATHOLOGY OF THE VIDEO GAME MARIO THE PLUMBER

2007-10-27 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, evosap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, I wrote an apology for suggesting some of you here could use a BJ. Jack thought I was having a drunken breakdown. I wasn't drinking. I just forget that most people were raised in an environment of sex=shame.I

[AsburyPark] Re: Historic Hotels of America Joins Preferred Hotel Group B...

2007-10-26 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What says Werner. Bring 'em in to take over the Metropolitan... = Unfortunately the Metro Is not an operating Hotel and could not become a member of the program.

[AsburyPark] Re: Historic Hotels of America Joins Preferred Hotel Group B...

2007-10-26 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But triCity's cover story today is about a reprieve the Metro has receieved (for demolition not preservation); however, DJ has a plan flaid out or those who want to preserve the hotel. He's claiming it's not pie-in-the-sky

[AsburyPark] Re: Historic Hotels of America Joins Preferred Hotel Group B...

2007-10-26 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The National Trust For Historic Preservation is a leader in preservation and Economic development efforts in many parts of the Country. Unfortunately NJ is not 'Preservation Friendly

[AsburyPark] Re: Historic Hotels of America Joins Preferred Hotel Group B...

2007-10-26 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: we had our senior prom there - when it was real, real deserted. those were the days. ... Lucky it's still standing. Only a replica, The original facade was

[AsburyPark] Grand Ave Bridge

2007-10-25 Thread wernerapnj
For several days there has been graffiti on the walls of the Grand Ave Bridge. Red spray paint on the south bound road side. First time since the new bridge was built that I recall seeing that. AP going downhill ... Looks like no one cared enough to get the graffiti removed from the buildings

[AsburyPark] Re: I guess the war against litter in Library Square Park is...

2007-10-24 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... I recall that there were frequent commercials on TV like Give a hoot, don't pollute and that iconic crying Indian. We don't have that anymore. i tend to think that it's not taught in schools anymore, or at least not

[AsburyPark] Metropolitan Still Standing ...

2007-10-24 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cracking down on public behaviour issues such as leash-laws Bad boy! == Hey they have me on a short leash, Everyone else should be too. Wonder how many summonses, how much in

[AsburyPark] Its the Small Stuff ....Library Square, West Side, All Around Town...

2007-10-24 Thread wernerapnj
Do some research into the success of Rudy Giuliani cleaning up NYC. Note: Public Space..Kelling Wilson... Here's an excerpt from an article about it: ... The solution lay in asking which crooks should be pursued, and what conclusions could be drawn from their activity. A revolution in

[AsburyPark] Re: I guess the war against litter in Library Square Park is un-winnable

2007-10-24 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Paul Vail [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, it is not the City that does not care about the litter, it is the LITTERERS that don't care. I watch miscreants drop their trash on the street all the time. They look me in the eye when they are doing it. It

[AsburyPark] Re: Its the Small Stuff ....Library Square, West Side, All A...

2007-10-24 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If it's the assistant I met, Cassandra, there's an ironic twist to what you're reporting. The mythological Cassandra had the gift of prophecy but was fated to have all her warnings go unheeded.

[AsburyPark] Re: This is where WE send OUR homeless.

2007-10-24 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, ehjesq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.courierpostonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article? AID=/20071022/NEWS01/710220341 We should all be proud. == This url will work better:

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